[videoblogging] Re: Copyright radical
That's not the way I read the License. Attribution Share Alike (by-sa) This license lets others remix, tweak, and build upon your work even for commercial reasons, as long as they credit you and license their new creations under the identical terms. This license is often compared to open source software licenses. All new works based on yours will carry the same license, so any derivatives will also allow commercial use. http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/meet-the-licenses That says to me that someone could use the work commercially, altered or un-altered, for commercial use a long as they give attribution and apply the same license to the altered or un-altered work. I understand this to apply to any medium, Web, DVD, CD, VHS, TV Basically you've relinquished all control of the work as the as the two stated conditions are met. 1. attribution 2. same license Regards, Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay - wow - this has gone far (but interesting) from what I was asking about so let me try again. The licence that I was talking about was BY-SA. I DO want to allow remixes and sampling. According to that license if you alter or make a derivitive work you must release it under the same license which, I'm thinking, excludes selling it. Correct? So in order for someone to use the work commercially, they'd have to use it in it's entire unaltered form. -Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright radical
Hello Charles, I'm not sure what your point is. You can certainly make the argument that copyright law is morally wrong, I don't agree it is, but even if you and others believe it is so what. Are you advocating violating copyright law as some sort of protest? The fact is that there are plenty of laws that people would consider morally wrong yet we decide to follow them because we live in a civil society. If you don't agree with them work to change them. I think current copyright law has a lot of problems but I'm not convinced that the concept of copyright law is morally wrong...it's an interesting philosophical question but I don't see it having much practical for videoblogging unless the laws radically change. See ya Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Devlon, I understand where you are coming from. But I think the argument being made is that the concept of Copyright law is (morally) wrong (regardless of whether it is legal). (I tried to elaborate on what Mark Hosler said in a long post I made in this thread.) See ya On 5/14/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, maybe I am naive or just too new to all this, but I don't see a problem at all. If someone wants to protect their work, they use a license. We have optionsall rights reserved (not granular enough imho) and CC. I feel the great thing about CC is the granularity. I can choose what rights I'd like to reserve. If someone doesn't agree with NC, or ND, then don't use it on their work...simple, done. I can't think of a better way to phrase this, so please forgive the bluntness of it, but it seems like those who oppose the noderivs portion of CC feel that anything released online should be open to them to play with. If it's online, it's mine? On 5/13/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Please post the URL to it when it's done. See ya On 5/13/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah I'm just doing up a piece by Eben Moglen where he mentions that he and Stallman believe that the NC provision somewaht defeats the purpose.. It's a big encode I'll hopefully have it up on Monday. joly Charles wrote: Hello Chuck, You may want to check this out also... Creative Commons -NC Licenses Consider Harmful http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655http:// www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655 See ya -- --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=9O OEc0FndaSrZhcGP9B0FA Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig= 95kPiyX0utggsk9QwKxV-w Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=mOj_R ib6MbsFKGpPQ8b4Vg Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Explainsw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig=2 nX88YAu-OvryCSd54cZHQ -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Servicehttp:// docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?
I completely agree with Andreas. Sure, it's a change but not a derivative. Each time you compress a video it's changed but this is not what is meant by derivative. An example of a derivative would be a mashup. In fact in the license states that you allow the licensee to modifiy the work into other formats The above rights include the right to make such modifications as are technically necessary to exercise the rights in other media and formats, but otherwise you have no rights to make Derivative Works. Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/10/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't agree with Devlon that a video transcode constitutes a derrivative work (IANAL!!!). Just as a xerox of a photo is a copy not a derrivative work... It's a bad copy, but still a copy. IMO. This from the champion of interactive bloggy video? ;) If I have an interactive sprite track and someone transcodes that mov file to a flash file, all that interactivity is gone ... it's a significant change to the media isn't it? - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com feed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
SXSW Darknets Panel - was Re: [videoblogging] Re: T Y V M
One of the main problems is that artists often don't own the copyright of their recordings. (in the case of music) . Their record comapany does. The artist may or may not retain publishing rights but in most cases the recording is owned by the record company. That's why you don't see many artist's suing anyone... Shawn Fanning (the Napster guy) has a new company called Snocap to facilitate licensing and copyright management. It looks interesting... http://www.snocap.com/ Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hear what you're saying, Andrew. Often, I have the same feeling---If only they didn't use copyrighted music. My personal preference is to use my friends' music, create my own, or use CC or public domain stuff, largely because I don't want the controversy, and I have confidence in making something good without it. I think we're in agreement that using copyrighted stuff without permission does not necessarily detract from the quality of the media that gets made. In some cases, the resulting work is very powerful, like Zadi's Greeen Day/Katrina mashup. So I feel like we should do something to change the laws, so people can use copyrighted material without the controversy, at least in some contexts. Maybe by finding an easy way to pay the artist whose work it is, or by being allowed to use it for non-commercial purposes, or something. I don't know the exact method, but I really don't like the current situation. As long as technology makes it easy to copy and sample, people will do it. And regulating technology to make it hard to copy and sample hamstrings technological progress, so I hope that does not happen (it's already happening and it sucks). So let's change the laws so huge chunks of the population aren't made into criminals, and so entire families of art (collage, audio sampling, video remixing) can come out of the shadows. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron andrew@ wrote: Beyond Fair Use: I have an unpostulated hypothesis if there is such a concept that the use of copyrighted music in online videos by personal publishers tends to restrict interest in the content at hand and ultimately slows any natural distribution that might otherwise occur. When I see a great video created by someone with copyrighted music, I usually become disappointed that the video has that flaw. I think it a flaw. At least its a controversy, likely unrelated to the content at hand and thus distracting. The flaw is not attached to the content. If the music were properly licensed or used legally, the flaw would be gone. Some people's flaws are other people's perfections, sometimes, though with regard to the blatant use of copyrighted material, beyond fair use, there is a problem circling around that content and so, I guess feeling-wise, I just can't ever be with complete comfort about it, no matter how great some content might otherwise be. On Mar 18, 2006, at 2:18 PM, jonny goldstein wrote: I think it is complete b.s. that people can't legally remix the culture around them without the kind of friction the current system presents. . I encourage everyone to get political about this. We are an interest group. I don't know if we should band together to create a lobby, or support existing organizations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation, but let's do our bit to influence the debate on this stuff. If you haven't already, I recommend checking out Free Culture by Laurence Lessig from your local library to get a snapshot of where the legal system is today regarding I.P., how it got there, and how it could be changed for the better. Then JD's book, Darknet gives a glimpse of what is actually happening as people use technology to share and remix despite the legal maneuvers of the big media lobbies. Also available from your local library. Time to change the system. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@ wrote: Paul, You're not a bad person and you're probably right that you will likely never receive a take-down notice or any nasty notes from Lawyers. But, if you ever wanted to do more with your work, you probably would have to clear the rights for the soundtracks. I'm not saying its right or wrong, but that's the current status of things. I've worked in TV stations, and its very typical that we had to reject certain works that we would have loved to pick up for distribution due to issues like this. There are whole industries built around the clearances of rights, and believe me they don't take these things lightly. It may all be off the radar now and for a long time to come. Obviously its impossible
[videoblogging] Re: Are any of you Vloggers on the Myspace Film side?
Myspace is a great tool for videobloggers to expand their audience. The audience for videblogs now seems very insular and a big challenge is to find people outside of the videoblogging world to discover videoblogs and all of the great content being produced. Myspace space is a great forum for that - although I agree with many of the criticisms in terms of usability and presentation - there are a lot of great opportunities to promote videoblogging and find people that may be interested your work. Although myspace may wither or die out - it's likely that the relationships, contacts and viewers you develop last well beyond myspace's lifespan... Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/26/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another important consideration that people often overlook is that these young teenagers will soon be the leaders of the world. Very soon. very true. on another note, MySpace is also the cool place to be NOW. but what happpens in 3 years? suddenly MySpace is no longer cool and its Schibiz (my new imaginary site). all the MySpace stuff just dies away. correct me if im wrong: as a blogger, Im making a space on the web that will last. I expect my blog to document my life. As a Myspace-like sites, it seems more about current interactions...then on to the next online space. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome
There's a Firefox extension called Web Developer that will give the media info on a page - among many other things. It's an incredible tool if you do any Web design or development. https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=60application=firefox Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought webjay was for making playlists of media hotlinks that you already know/have? I was talking about scouring the page for all the media files, each time I load a page in a browser, no matter where I am, a list of links pops up to all the media files on the page. A browser plugin. If Webjay does it, I'm sold. Just didn't think it did. On 2/15/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesn't webjay do this? -Josh On 2/15/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is slightly unrelated, but: Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts: http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request): http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.js I want a script like these that runs on every site I visit. Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them? Possible? I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it. On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote: I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV. No blog, no permalinks, no RSS... Peter http://nbcolympics.com This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap you'd find on any major news site. Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome when clearly it is anything but. I mean to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've been forewarned. Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please don't take this personally. This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's video interface are full of needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not. People who don't get accessibility always say... I can watch a video on it... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30 minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is needlessly for shit. I always respond to such people... yeah you should check out that on video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome.. you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website... don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much said website rocks. One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way... that there is a better way. Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere an elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at large instead of just an elite few. So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit interface. When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action.. to hack it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;) Case in point. Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS
[videoblogging] Re: favorite way to get stats?
I use traffic facts which is an add-on to my godaddy hosting account. I believe it is about $3 a month. It gives pretty thorough stats on visitors, referrers, bandwith, search words and phrases, entry/exit pages, new/returning visitors etc...probably more than enough information for most people. I also use goggle analytics which is free. You need to add a chunk of javascript to each page you want tracked. The basic stats are pretty similar to traffic facts. However, if you are using google adsense or google adwords it offers more in depth analysis of marketing campaigns and adword click thorughs etc... I've heard that there is a delay in setting new accounts. Technorati is also a great way assess link density and buzz. If you have access to your raw web logs I've also heard good things about Analog, but it requires some technical acumen to set up. Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is your favorite way to get stats on your videoblog?? There are so many different ways! Best website hit counter? Best way to count + track who's watching your videos? I'm putting together a resource page for my students, and want to recommend the best handful of tools... jen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: sharing video on the net on newsvine
Here's a direct link to the article - no registration required http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060122/ap_on_hi_te/video_sharing Intersting section on copyright towards the end of the article. Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have to register for that. I tried doing so and was told You have been added to the private beta waiting list. No idea how long the waiting period is for access though? David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is an aticle on sharing video via the internet that is in the tech section of newsvine right now: http://ap-517.newsvine.com/_news/2006/01/22/67006-amateur-video-sharing- grows-online kinda interesting -- Josh Leo joshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.com wearethemedia.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: New here and a question about the tutorial?
I would agree with your assessment to avoid YouTube. I would also include vSocial as a great place to host your video. They provide a simple interface, the uploads have always been quick reliable and they provide a flash version. After trying out about 12 different free hosting services blip.tv, vSocial and ourmedia are the ones i prefer. Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's why not to use YouTube: 1. You videos won't work in an aggregator - ie iTunes, FireAnt, etc 2. You grant YouTube a license to use and profit from your work. 3. They stick their ugly logo on your video Here's why to use Ourmeida (or Blip.tv) 1. You can upload video in the format that you want 2. They don't claim any ownership over your work - they respect your creative commons license 3. It doesn't cost anything more than YouTube - ie free To me it's a no brainer. -Verdi On 1/20/06, eldreamer81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of using Ourmedia would'nt YouTube be just the same? Yahoo! Groups Links -- -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://evilvlog.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Even though you might not be making money now if you do in the future they could so for back royalties with interest and that could feasibly be a handsome chunk of change. Using copyrighted music is complicated. You need permission from the owner of the composition and the owner of the recording. Often times these aren't the same. Here is info on licensing http://www.ascap.com/weblicense/ Here good explanation of fair use http://www.soundexchange.com/licensing101.html#a19 Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? Also, what about the rights for those commericals at the end? http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/01/rb_06_jan_17.html The reason I ask is because we use copyrighted music all the time, as well as screencasts from Google Earth. I haven't been too worried about getting busted because we're still smalltime. Also, searching the pod-safe music sites is a daunting task and my ears begin to bleed after listening to tons of crappy songs (not to say all of it is crap). Anyways, it would provide big publicity if Google or the RIAA censored a video blog. Is there a bigger risk of getting busted if a vlog has sponsorship money? Just want to get ideas from others. Matt, There are all sorts of legal issues... and I suggest doing whatever's in your power to secure rights or simply use podsafe or creative commons materials that explitiely state how you can use them. That siad there is one final rule of thumb I go buy... and truely any great legal mind would tell you this under the table. Lawsuits ALWAYS follow the money... therefore if you're not making any money you'll have some leway... In short I don't think you have much to worry about unless your planing on sub licensing or selling your content in the future. I do strongly advise you slowly move your workflow into a completely podsafe arena... because with so much great openly licensced media out there, particularly music there's just no need to take any risks. That said I think rocketboom is getting into a big grey area because of their celebrity. 1) the videosphere is not as well devleloped and therefore not as much content is explicitely licensced for use with vlogs and other open access media. Therefore rocketboom must draw on grey area content. 2) though I don't know how much money they're making yet their celebrity puts them in a precarious spot... they're high visibility... somone in fact might be tempted to sue them not because they're necissarily making money of this media, but because of the added bonus of free publicity. That said I love and respect what rocketboom is doing with creative remixing and reuse of content... and I think though we may suffer some set backs this MUST be the way of the future. To opt out of remixing, redistribution and reuse unnecisarily is to opt out of the evolving marketplace and the new economy of information... indreasingly as this new economy grows I ecpect they'll be more incentive for arists and even incumbent media to open up their libraries for creative reuse on at least some level. In summary... the winds of change are blowing in favor of a more liberal fair use, but we must be careful of setbacks that will happen... primarily due greed and misunderstanding. Every artist down here on the ground floor know the value of creative reuse... but people not on the ground floor of this revolution may not get it AT all. Proceed with caution, but enjoy, experiment and do great and flattering things for those artists who's materials you reuse. Site them heavily and very favorably. Peace, -Mike -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez you'd think they could afford a decent mic, though :) On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Ted Tagami wrote: Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;) Damn, that's exactly what I was thinking too... cellebrities are people too :) Sometimes media and the people in it get so abstracted we forget they're human... I think this is one of the legacies of Ebay.. .it turned buyers into sellers and taught us all something about the person on the other
[videoblogging] Re: Yahoo Video Search
I noticed that the yahoo video search is picking up videos I've uploaded to ourmedia.org. It has only picked up one video from my site where I have all of the videos hosted. I'm not sure why it picked that one (out of 9) at the time. Seemed pretty random. Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a question about the Yahoo video Search ... I'm not in it, and I'm fairly sure I've submitted my feed. Yahoo however has about 3.7million web services :-P so its possible I did it incorrectly or submitted it to the wrong place... I used this page: http://search.yahoo.com/info/submit.html (once a long time ago and then again a few weeks ago ... I'm still not in there) Can anyone point me in the right direction for steps I need to follow to have my feed indexed by Yahoo!'s video search? I never really cared before, but I started playing around with the yahoo search feature within fireant, and decided it would in fact be nice to be in the results :-) thanks Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] green Screen Tips
I received my green screen after a somewhat combative altercation with the vendor via ebay - however I've posted my second attempt at trying to get the proper lighting configuration but it still still seems to need some fondling... if anyone has any tips about geen screen lighting or fondling please let me know... and pray to god the feds aren't listening...or if they are hopefully they're off the clock http://www.tiny-tube.com Will Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: 3ivx compression -- Help!
I use QT7/Tiger and I use 3ivx Dual Pass - it is the best size/quailty ratio after much experimentation. The h.264 is a little smaller with the same quality but takes much longer to compress - plus the biggest drawback is that it requires QT7 to view. What is the bug? I haven't noticed any problems. Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way I understand it, it creates smaller and/or better quality files. During the first pass, it analyses the footage and gets a chancve to workout what bitrate etc for different scenes will work best. So when it comes to do the actual encoding on the 2nd pass, the encoder has more info about whats coming next, so can make better use of available bitrate. Many people liked 3ivx dualpass, gave better results than single pass, but a bug made it useless with QT7/tiger. However there is a workaround for that bug: http://forums.3ivx.com/index.php?showtopic=83898 For many people it may not be worth the extra time/hassle of going for a 2-pass solution, it depends how much you care about quality/filesize. Try both, and see if the results are worth it. 2-pass should be as much of a hassle as it is with 3ivx (manually starting 2nd pass doing bug workaround). I think the qt7.0.3 ipod video export option uses 2-pass, another reason why its so slow. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the point of two passes anyway? I'm unfamiliar with this. Thanks, Harold http://podcasterherald.com On 12/30/05, Michael I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great! The days of 1st pass 2nd pass are over! Thanks for the info. Aloha. *andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I have Tiger, QT7 and 3ivx 4.5.1 I encode to single pass constant bitrate (or single pass average bitrate when file is too big) at 6400 kbits/sec [error in software makes this setting confusing, but thats what I set it at] compressor quality med, high or best, depending on motion complexity of footage (I usually preset at med). maxium quality Quantizer is around 90%-100% (usually 95%) minimum quality quantizer is around 10% frames per second is 15. keyframs forced every 300 delta frames half-pixel motion and four vector motion engaged. Audio is AAC 44.1 128kbs On Dec 29, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: I've been doing some tests with 3ivx and QuickTime, but have not been getting� file size economy� that is any better than MPEG4 or H.264.� I got the idea of usinig 3ivx from the Rocketboom tools documentation. It was very helpful and generous, but I'm afraid I need some more guidance aboput specific settings.� The whole subject of compression has been, quite frankly, something that I've been avoiding because it is so confusing with its own language and parameters that, to me, don't make much sense.� I am developing a vlog that will a lot of footage of horses in motion. I am trying to keep the bit rate as low as possible to avoid stuttering while showing some sense of motion as clean as possible on DSL bandwidth. What I am looking for from this list is some pointers to instruction about compression that is somewhere between the Freevlog tutorials and the 3ivx documentation.� I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks Stan Hirson hestakaup.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig= IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H1 5DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepadhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=b K2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46 LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - �Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. � - �To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] � - �Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendarshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/photos/*http:// pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html.dir=. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe
[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
There are certain elements that can be integrated within the video that have blog attributes - using sprite tracks (I believe this is exclusive to quicktime), chapters and href tracks. Comments are another matter. I think you're onto something though - although now it requires a certain technical acument to achieve now, it probably won't be long until these attributes are incorporated into the flow of the software... will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 27, 2005, at 10:23 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: enhanced vodcast I guess what I'm talking about is putting the blog into the video. Can a blog be in a video? -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
I think you've had too much cough syrup... What is your definition of videoblog? I have yet to see a congent one. If I post a video to my web site is that all of a sudden a videoblog? Or do I need a sidebar with links too? Or do I need tags too? Do I need to allow comments to have a videoblog? The only distinction I can detect from you view is that a videoblog doesn't require an RSS feed while a videocast does. And as you noted, most videoblogs do have an RSS feed so consequently most are blogs and casts. Can you show me an example of a videoblog that doesn't have a RSS feed? I don't believe I've come across one. And I think this what is problematic with the semantics. Virtually all videblogs are vodcasts in a strcit sense. Holiday regards, Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will, you are wrong. Andreas is right. I have also been conveying the same thoughts for months. That is why in the debates on definitions and language, I had pushed for the realization of two terms to use. videoblogging and vodcasting (aka video podcasting, video on demand) Most videobloggers have a vodcast, some do not. the content, genres, styles etc are absolutely not relevent to wither of these two distinctions even if a trend happens to exist. videoblog content can be ANYTHING. if the videoblogger takes advantage of RSS to make the content subscribable and distributable, then this vodcast, obviously can be ANYTHING. sull On 12/25/05, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This makes no sense at all. In fact by your own definitions you don't get the right to assert that you are a videoblogger. If I consume your video posts exclusively through iTunes or Fireant you're saying it isn't a videoblog it's a videocast??? Conversely, if you published epsiodes of Punky Brewster in your blog template with sidebars links etc. that would constitute a videoblog? What would you consider rocketboom??? It would have to be both according to your reasoning. This convoluted thinking leads to greater confusion than clarification; particularly to the greater audience not versed in RSS, feeds, aggregators etc. I would argue a better, more useful distinction is one based on content. I believe the connotation of videblog is something personal, not contrived and often produced by one person with posts being irregular. A video podcast seems to suggest a more produced, often scripted production that is produced more or less on a fixed schedule. It seems to be this is a more helpful distinction than the means by wish people view the video. In talking with people that are unfamiliar with videoblogging or video podcasting, and as journalists continue to write about this movement, I think these definitions are becoming more meaningful and I hope become more useful and less disorienting. Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're speaking past eachother, I think. There are two kinds of videoblogging - for the sake of the argument we can call one videoblogging and the other video podcasting. The first includes aspects of the blog. It's a remediation of the blog and tv (among others). Think McLuhan. The latter is a transparent remediation of tv. It's faithful to tv. The difference is easiest to see in reading patterns. Videoblogging are read like blogs, they are small pieces loosely joined (by the reader). The latter is read like tv, one at the time. Seperated, passively. Read this for an intermission URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/12/24/tv-killed-voggings-star/ When I say embedded video gives the best reading experience for web video, I am talking about videoblogging. A blog entry is *not* the frames that make up the video. It is also the surrounding blog post, the comments, the title, the sidebar, the entire network around it (inbound and outbound links). That is what makes blogging different from old media. When you take the video and move it to an iPod it may be the same frames, but it is not the same Work - it is the same video, but a new media and different content. I make videoblogging, and my personaly interest is videoblogging. Content that works well in a videoblogging setting is different from content that works well in a video podcasting setting. Just as there is content which works better on tv than in radio (a boxing match comes to mind). Thinking they're the same is naive. - Andreas PS. Did evilvlog begin censoring itself? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:34 +0100, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas, I understand your perspective, and respect and find your methods interesting, but there's thousands and thousands of people who disagree
[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
This may be true in your own mind but apart from this insular community, videoblog clearly has a personal connotation inherited from the word blog. Ask people who have no idea what a videoblog is. As you stated most people perceive blogs coming from an individual voice. In a strict technical sense what you say may be true but I don't that is the the average joe interpets it that way. I agree with you that the quandry is understanding what a blog is and the reconciling what we would like it to be with the perceptions of the larger public. Will Videoblogs have little or nothing to do with personal video, however the personal video aesthetic may be a good fit for the blogging medium as many blogs tend to come from an individual voice. -Josh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. I was not trying to put down a definition. I don't know where you got that idea. A definition would include other factors that exclude Deperate Housewives in a blog template (because they are not read as a blog). Then what is your definition of videblog? You seem to prefer to refer to yourself as a videoblogger but aren't you a video podcaster as well if I can watch your posts in iTunes? I was trying to get the point across that reading videoblogs in a blog, or in FireANT is a different ballgame than watching videoblogs on an iPod in the bus. True but you don't decide how a consumer views your video if you're including a feed or make it available as a download. If you truly wanted to be a true videoblogger (i.e the require the viewer to remain in the context of the blog) why even offer RSS and allow people to view the video in iTunes or other aggregators? I'm talking with Michael Meiser. He's a smart guy. I'm not trying to talk to a general audience - If I was I wouldn't drop names like McLuhan in the middle of things. Although it's not a general audience, this forum includes over 2000 people. If you want to behave like a bunch of mandarins why not keep it off list? Being informal and personal is a factor in blogs, but it's just as big a factor in what I called video podcasting. You can't distinguish based on it. You certainly can make distinctions based on content. Documentaries and narrative films are both movies but are cleary different (i.e. fiction and fact) in their content. You don't think these are useful distinctions? Will - Andreas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
Look up semantics... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:57:09 +0100, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I think this what is problematic with the semantics. Virtually all videblogs are vodcasts in a strcit sense. No, almost all videoblogs - *right now* - *can* be used as vodcasts. And I failt to see why that's a problem with semantics. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
I understand the point - I'm justing trying to challenge it because I don't ascribe to the McLuhan medium is the massage worldview which seems at the root of the debate. In my assessment, the same video played in different contexts does not necessitate new designations for each context. A song on my iPod is the same song on my home stereo, in my car stereo, from my computer. Different envirnonments produce different experiences and possible forms of interaction but I don't think that requires creating a new term for every possible platform. I'm not on the McLuhan bandwagon and I just respectively disagree and place greater value on content than on medium. That may make me wrong in the world of McLuhan sychophants but in the greater community I think it's a worthy discussion. - but that's a whole other can of worms... Regards, Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are either missing the point or choosing to ignore it. either way, respectfully, you are still wrong. now where is my DXM And I failt to see why that's a problem with semantics. - Andreas -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Revisited
This makes no sense at all. In fact by your own definitions you don't get the right to assert that you are a videoblogger. If I consume your video posts exclusively through iTunes or Fireant you're saying it isn't a videoblog it's a videocast??? Conversely, if you published epsiodes of Punky Brewster in your blog template with sidebars links etc. that would constitute a videoblog? What would you consider rocketboom??? It would have to be both according to your reasoning. This convoluted thinking leads to greater confusion than clarification; particularly to the greater audience not versed in RSS, feeds, aggregators etc. I would argue a better, more useful distinction is one based on content. I believe the connotation of videblog is something personal, not contrived and often produced by one person with posts being irregular. A video podcast seems to suggest a more produced, often scripted production that is produced more or less on a fixed schedule. It seems to be this is a more helpful distinction than the means by wish people view the video. In talking with people that are unfamiliar with videoblogging or video podcasting, and as journalists continue to write about this movement, I think these definitions are becoming more meaningful and I hope become more useful and less disorienting. Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're speaking past eachother, I think. There are two kinds of videoblogging - for the sake of the argument we can call one videoblogging and the other video podcasting. The first includes aspects of the blog. It's a remediation of the blog and tv (among others). Think McLuhan. The latter is a transparent remediation of tv. It's faithful to tv. The difference is easiest to see in reading patterns. Videoblogging are read like blogs, they are small pieces loosely joined (by the reader). The latter is read like tv, one at the time. Seperated, passively. Read this for an intermission URL: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/12/24/tv-killed-voggings-star/ When I say embedded video gives the best reading experience for web video, I am talking about videoblogging. A blog entry is *not* the frames that make up the video. It is also the surrounding blog post, the comments, the title, the sidebar, the entire network around it (inbound and outbound links). That is what makes blogging different from old media. When you take the video and move it to an iPod it may be the same frames, but it is not the same Work - it is the same video, but a new media and different content. I make videoblogging, and my personaly interest is videoblogging. Content that works well in a videoblogging setting is different from content that works well in a video podcasting setting. Just as there is content which works better on tv than in radio (a boxing match comes to mind). Thinking they're the same is naive. - Andreas PS. Did evilvlog begin censoring itself? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:34 +0100, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas, I understand your perspective, and respect and find your methods interesting, but there's thousands and thousands of people who disagree with your idea of best practices. Alternatively... I think getting all my vlogs automatically downloaded and synced to my video ipod is the best thing ever. I watch them on my TV while working on my laptop, and through mefeedia am able to easily work, or if I see something interesting... quickly find the original post and follow up on it. The disconnect that I thought would happen do to putting videos on TV has NOT happened in fact... I find i can comment and follow more vlogs. If I miss something I just hit the pause button or rewind on the iPod... if I am bored with a clip I skip it... All the while I can follow along on mefeedia on my laptop... tagging things, marking favorites... following up on links from Steve G.'s Vlog soup.. or rocketboom's links. All we need to do in my opinion is make it even easier to follow along through mefeedia with what's happening on the TV by improving our web based queue and our RSS queue which plays back through the video ipod. Finally, I also like embedded flash for in browser play back, as probably does Jay.. that's not the problem... the problem is when there is NO alternative link. It drives me up the wall. How can I download it... how can I rip it to my ipod, how can I share it with a friend... No this sort of flash playback is not going away... but video blogging is at least putting a serious dampner on DRM'd and locked down files like this and encouraging more openess and portability... which means more flexibility, increased accessibility, and enhanced useability. -Mike On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:49 AM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: On
[videoblogging] Re: Quicktime Interactivity
Adobe GoLive also has a QT Editor that lets you add sprites, href track, chapters etc.. to facillitate the granular casts/vlogs some have been talking about. andrew does the QT Track editor use sprites? if so have you ever experimented with them? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: Andrew if you're reading this: Are you using HREF tracks or some software solution (LiveStage, eZedia etc.)? Textation: QuickTime Text Track Editor for Mac OS X http://home.netvigator.com/~feelorium/feelorium/Textation/index.html $23 This is easy enough to add into a regular process, so that if anyone wanted to add interactivity to their QT videos - all the time - if you get used to this neat little app, its easy and quick enough. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Time for a bit of reflective honesty....
Is there a filter for the needle-dick Chihuahua - or perhaps a restraining order? Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Weagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's just cut the shit here. Everything going on in this videoblogging space is a complete waste of time in the shadow of evilvlog.com Chris Weagel speaking for the comatose Raymonde Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Blue Screen/Green Screen Was: Re: [videoblogging] Some rules to vlog by.
Hey Jeffrey, This is a good tutorial - not specific to any software. http://www.macmoviemaker.com/index.php?id=5 Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay... any good tutorials on how to Green/Blue Screen in Premiere or a general tutorial? Jeffrey Nathan Miller wrote: 3. Buy a blue sheet...that is what I did... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Rec. Host Provider??
I use godaddy and haven't had any problems. It's the cheapest hosting I've found. I also use Worpdress and it's a simple installation even if the host doesn't provide a one-click solution (much easier than moveable type). Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also heard good things about dream host. I've considered swithing in order to use wordpress since my understanding is that they provide wordpress which is a popular and powerful blog program (from what I've heard). I, presently use godaddy as a host for blogger. That is, I have blogger use my godaddy space for the account, which gives me more flexibility and my domain name. Also I can create other pages at this domain of whatever sort I want. GoDaddy also offers some blog progams (nucleus, geeklog, plog, serendipity), but I have never heard of them and I'm used to blogger now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] iTunes Video Category
Just noticed that they brought back the video category on the iTunes Podcasts page. However, it is not a comprehensive list and says Featured Video Podcasts - I'd be interested to learn how these were selected. Will http://www.tiny-tube.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: 'Podcast' named word of the year
Apple seems to suggest through their nomenclature that both audio and video are both podcasts. They don't seem to make a distinction. They now have a video category but it is falls with their podcasts section. After reviewing their selections for video features though they seem to be biased toward the show variety and appear negligent in representing videoblogs. Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: point well taken, matt. i am half goofing these days about the words. its like the last burst of givashit i got ;-) tell them its a vodcast... fuel that! hell, its shorter =) On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. But I have statistical proof that the word podcast has helped build traffic for Ridertech.com, a ski/snowboard vlog where most subscribers use iTunes. According to what I've seen on ski/snowboard message boards, most people have no idea what RSS w/ media enclosures is, and many don't even know what to do with Bloglines. When I say video blog to someone who has never seen a vlog, I then test the waters with video podcast and that usually clicks for them. I'd rather not have to say that, but it helps them to understand. Most people associate podcast with something they can subscribe to. Who knows, maybe video podcast will get bumped out by some Tivo-branded word in a few months. Anyways, I don't really care what people call it and I do not try to market these terms... other than using it as a last attempt to explain vloggging/RSS and of course for SEO (where ski podcast and snowboard podcast produce a few referrals each day). As long as skiers and snowboarders enjoy the content, I'm happy. So far, the feedback from the snow-loving community has been amazing. The sad part is most people still don't subscribe even after telling them they can. They'd rather check back every few days than try to understand RSS. Some even watch old videos they've already seen until we post new ones. (Yes, skiers and snowboarders are usually fanatical.) Either way, I appreciate the viewers we have on whatever you want to call it. No matter our personal opinions of the word, my only point in all this is that the word podcast has helped gain visitors and subscribers. Oh, and I only use the word for Ridertech and not my other two vlog-related sites. Most vlogs are watched by fellow vloggers, but Ridertech is not. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, I agree podcast is a lame term to associate with video blogging, but it works to build an audience. Ummm... it doesn't work as well as good content. Rocketboom does not use the word podcast on their site anywhere (though they used to use vlog). Ryanne's Video Blog is called exactly that... Ryann'es Video Blog. SEO takes you only so far... to get and retain viewers, the best thing you can do is make good stuff and make it often. -Josh On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let the debate continue... The editors of the New Oxford American Dictionary have selected podcast as the Word of the Year for 2005. Podcast will be defined as a digital recording of a radio broadcast or similar program, made available on the Internet for downloading to a personal audio player. The word will be added to the next online update of the New Oxford American Dictionary, due in early 2006. http://tinyurl.com/cnqz6 For the record, I agree podcast is a lame term to associate with video blogging, but it works to build an audience. Of course, that is only if you want one. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and revelation from which new form is born - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere Aggregator http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
[videoblogging] Re: QT 7 Poster Frames / WAS Blogger templates SPECIFIALLY for bloggers
After you set your poster frame, move the playhead back to the beginning and then save the file. This seems to work for me. As for QT7 - I haven't had any problems on my powerbook. I love the h.264 compression although I'm still using 3ivx until h.264 becomes more pervasive. Regards, Will http://www.tiny-tube.com On 11/30/05, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This brings up a QT 7 issue. Regularly set poster frames in QT6 to great effect. But in QT 7 when I open a .mov with a poster frame, it begins playing from the poster frame rather than the beginning of the video. Because I'm doing lots of presentations that screwed with the flow - to add the additional step of hitting rewind before playing a file. Anyone got suggestions / workarounds? Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:45 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: I don't know the specifics of MeFeedia's server setup or queueing mechanism. I don't know if its able to fail gracefully and move on when it encounters errors. There are lots of video codecs out there -- not every QT, WMV, AVI, etc. are made equally. As for setting a poster frame... yes, do that. Its generally good practice, though most people tend to disregard. In FireAnt on Windows we extract thumbnails that display in your collection of videos. If you've set a poster frame, that is the image that gets extracted. -Josh On 11/29/05, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but the argument stands Markus Sandy wrote: but do the math: there are less than 2000 feeds as of today i think 500 videos per feed is grossly over estimating most people's *average* output that's 100,000 thumbs we have been told that they have been generating them for several weeks (months?) now let's assume only 6 weeks = 6 x 7 x 24 x 60 = 60480 minutes that's 16 minutes per thumb and counting more likely, there is an average of less than 200 videos per feed at this time so 40 minutes per thumb or higher? wow, that's a lot! this still does not explain why older video thumbs are not slowly showing up for me and why some new ones aren't (no changes in codec here) Joshua Kinberg wrote:Thumbnail generation is a very CPU intensive process. Mefeedia's server must download your videos, extract thumbs and save them, then remove the video. Not to mention there are often errors due to various video codecs and the fact that it can be hard to decode all types and extract images. Even Yahoo! has difficulty in this area, and they have much better server resources than MeFeedia. Someone in Yahoo! Media Search once told me that it can take several days for a video to be indexed properly even after the crawler has discovered the video. Its for the same exact reason. There is a batch queue set up to extract the thumbnails and do whatever other processing needed on the file before it gets indexed properly by the search engine. -Josh On 11/29/05, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our thumbnail generating code got a bit behind, but it will catch up soon. On 11/29/05, Christopher Ivanyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem with using mefeedia's archive code is that it does not consistently show thumbnails for all videos. Why do some vlogs don't have pics, and others do not. That's been an ongoing problem for a long, long time. Chris On 11/29/05, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: set blogger to show one post per page that takes care of question #1 you can use mefeedia's archive code to display a list of thmbnails for previous shows http://mefeedia.com --Steve On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Fire wrote: Id like a template that could make my site (look and operate) like rocketboom.com (see below) I like their interface... nice and simple... with the most current video automatically loading on the first page, and thumbnails of the recently archived ones below... --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
[videoblogging] Re: Richard and Bill Recaping Meet the Vloggers
I had the same problem and I couldn't seem to figure it out so I switched back to my Web site host - which cranks up the bandwidthe as well. If there's a solution I'd love to hear it. Will http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, mikehudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Bill, I'm not sure why FeedBurner wouldn't be picking up your videos as enclosures... Have you tried contacting FeedBurner support? Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey thanks, that transcoding feature would be a big help to me. I currently upload to Youtube for that and use you guys for the QuickTime file. And to be honest I happen to love Blip.tv so I would rather use you guys for everything. There is one thing that I am curious about (and I don't know if this is an issue on your end or somewhere else, as I suspect it might be) And that is since I've been hosting my files with Blip I've had to manually add the enclosure to my feed in order for it to work. Prior to this I had been using my own web host for storage and the enclosures just worked when I made a new post to the blog. I'm using WordPress and Feedburner so I don't know if that's where the problem is or with blip.tv. Any ideas? Anyone? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jared at Blip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Bill, we've been experimenting with transcoding Quicktime movies to Flash Video (FLV) on Blip - if it will help, I can make a Flash version of your video available. otherwise, it played fine for me - Mac OS X 10.4.3 with Quicktime 7.0.2, and 3ivx D4 4.5.1 installed. let us know if there's anything we can do for you! cheers, - Jared -- Jared Klett Co-founder, Blip.tv E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://jklett.blip.tv/ AIM: JaredAtWrok Skype: JaredOnSkype On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Bill Streeter wrote: Yeah the issue is with the video that I posted on Blip.tv http://blip.tv/file/4915/ of Richard and I returning from the Meet the Vloggers in Chicago. It's not on my main blog, so there is no Flash version, it's the QuickTime. This happened once before. I did something with 3vix that made some people get a white screen rather than a picture. And the weird thing was that these people had simularly configured machines to mine (OS 10.4 QuickTime 7) etc. Yet I could view the files and they couldn't. The only thing I could think of was the fact that I had 3vix installed on my Quicktime and they didn't. Bill Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Which vlog host do you like and why?
I too use blip.tv to host my video and so far I haven't had any problems with upload or playback. Originally I was server the videos from my server which would often choke on playback. Other free host sI've found include: CNET Blip.tv http://www.blip.tv YouTube http://www.YouTube.com Google http://video.google.com Yahoo - http://video.yahoo.com/ I would be interested to here if anyone is serving videos from google or yahoo and if there are any attendant bandwith problems. http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I happen to have a vlog on Blip.TV. I like several of the features that they have and new ones they are adding. However, I've had a brief scare now and then when the site was (probably) having so much traffic that I couldn't get my day's work to upload. They're just added a chat room which I think might prove interesting. I'll copy a previous post here that triggered my idea to start this thread: You can upload videos at several different places. Here's a few: http://OurMedia.org http://Blip.tv http://Vimeo.com http://DailyMotion.com http://Revver.com there are plenty others too. -josh If I recall correctly, You Tube sounded like it wanted only family entertainment and claimed rights to some of the material one posted there. I wonder if anyone has had trouble with censorship anywhere? Has anyone had their vlog lost anywhere? Are there special features on their provider that they particularly like? Has anyone had problems because a vlog got an enormous amount of traffic? I became a reader of this list for several weeks before I actually started vlogging. I think a discussion about providers, free ones and also paid ones, would be illuminating. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: why does an .mp4 ask to open up QuickTime
This is a function of your browser. Usually under preferences (Firefox, Explorer) you can select a helper application to handle different file (MIME) types (e.g. I can set an .mp3 to open and play in iTunes). The default for .mp4 is the Quicktime player. http://www.tiny-tube.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does an .mp4 ask to open up QuickTime, instead of playing the video in a new browser window? POST http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2005/11/video-umass-video-blogging- class.html VIDEO http://clips1.vimeo.com/video_files/2005/11/10/vimeo.26227.mp4 Something to do with a host setting? --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] First vLog launch
Hello all, I just joined the group after launching my first vLog. I would appreciate any feedback on both the technical side (slow download, feeds, etc.) and the production side. http://www.tiny-tube.com --- Also, I would appreciate any advice on adding the feed to iTunes. Is this any easy process? Are there any fees involved? What are the pros and cons? One final question. What is the most popular encoding for offering a vidcast? I have a .mov up but a windows user was having problems even after updating to the current version of Quicktime. Can you serve both .mov and wmv. files in the same feed base on OS? Thanks and I look forward to enjoying the collective wisdom of this group. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: First vLog launch
Hi Paul, That's for taking the time to check it out. I think it was server stalling out. Try again when you get a chance. Thanks, Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: welcome aboard, it might be just me, but dreams end after ben says the laws of physics have expired. I want to see more of it, I'll check back later. paul On 6 Nov 2005, at 18:17, wtrainbow wrote: Hello all, I just joined the group after launching my first vLog. I would appreciate any feedback on both the technical side (slow download, feeds, etc.) and the production side. http://www.tiny-tube.com --- Also, I would appreciate any advice on adding the feed to iTunes. Is this any easy process? Are there any fees involved? What are the pros and cons? One final question. What is the most popular encoding for offering a vidcast? I have a .mov up but a windows user was having problems even after updating to the current version of Quicktime. Can you serve both .mov and wmv. files in the same feed base on OS? Thanks and I look forward to enjoying the collective wisdom of this group. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ⪠ Visit your group videoblogging on the web.  ⪠ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ⪠ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vlog http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com It's worth a laugh and work friendly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: First vLog launch
Hi Gena, Thanks for the feedback. I encoded the vide in h.264 and didn't realize it is only compatible with QT 7. I'm going to try a differnt codec the works QT 6 which hopefully will solve this problem. What do you use to export the .wmv file? Thanks again Will --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a windows user but I don't have QT 7.0 so I can hear the music but not see the video. What I do is make a video for the .wvm and include a 160x120 .mov link version for dial-up/QT users. You don't have to do that it is just what I chose to do. It is more work and making sure that I don't link to the wrong thing. Many folks have decided that they want to render in QT 7.0, again that is a choice. I think it does help to have a line that says QT 7.0 or higher required to view videos. Just my 0.02 cents Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, wtrainbow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I just joined the group after launching my first vLog. I would appreciate any feedback on both the technical side (slow download, feeds, etc.) and the production side. http://www.tiny-tube.com --- Also, I would appreciate any advice on adding the feed to iTunes. Is this any easy process? Are there any fees involved? What are the pros and cons? One final question. What is the most popular encoding for offering a vidcast? I have a .mov up but a windows user was having problems even after updating to the current version of Quicktime. Can you serve both .mov and wmv. files in the same feed base on OS? Thanks and I look forward to enjoying the collective wisdom of this group. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
