Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
usually i stay out of these talks these days but this one... Most can not be broadcast on community TV because they continually use copyrighted content (music) in their productions. That is bad teaching, not a bad law I don't know about that. Have you ever taught a video class? Teaching the medium to either filmmakers or musicians becomes prohibitive without mixing up existing materials. I suffer the same problems as Adrian (plus I teach video classes regularly)... -but in terms of working creatively I've never found it prohibitive, ... sampling of other material is one method, but not using it doesn't = prohibition of creative ideas. On my vlog i've still managed to never use copyrighted music, never used copyrighted images ( and aside from Creative Commons material in my revlog), never used video material that i didn't record. d -- URL: http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
duncan wrote: usually i stay out of these talks these days but this one... I suffer the same problems as Adrian (plus I teach video classes regularly)... -but in terms of working creatively I've never found it prohibitive, ... sampling of other material is one method, but not using it doesn't = prohibition of creative ideas. On my vlog i've still managed to never use copyrighted music, never used copyrighted images ( and aside from Creative Commons material in my revlog), never used video material that i didn't record. Not to be a licensing weenie, but as I understand it, copyright still applies to things, it's just a matter of the usage rights and licensing, correct? I mean, I maintain the copyright on the work I create, even though I make it available under a CC by-nc-sa license. This just gives others the rights to use my work as I've specified. The opposite of copyright would be public domain, where you release a work and do not claim any sort of copyright to it. (If I'm wrong on any of this, please correct me.) Pete -- http://tinkernet.org/ videoblog for the future... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
Is this the "Internet Archive" that claims to be capturing "the history of our day?" Aren't sexual issues part of that history? It is really outrageous that they took your vlog off. And, I say that, as someone who doesn't fully agree with your viewpoint. Actually, I watched this vlog and I felt it treated men unfairly. It made me mad. That is good. Something that provokes you and challenges you to think is good whether you like it or not. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Aimee Buyea To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive well i guess my work on gender issues is a little tooprovocative."Dear Patron:You recently uploaded an item to one of ourcollections. Curators hadto remove it, possibly due to one of the followingreasons:-Rights status unclear-Rights status appears inappropriate for ourcollections-Inappropriate content (eg, pornography)-Uploader requested the removal-Item content was empty or brokenAlthough we appreciate your willingness to contribute,we would liketo host only content that rightsholders will permit usto host. Pleasedo not attempt to reupload this item. Thanks for yourunderstanding!-an Internet Archive curator"check it out!aimeehttp://onegirloneworld.blogspot.com/2005/11/warning-sites-linked-contain-adult.html SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
Oh come on Randy It's only a Barbie doll with no clothes on!! Paul k On 30 Nov 2005, at 21:12, Randolfe Wicker wrote: Is this the Internet Archive that claims to be capturing the history of our day? Aren't sexual issues part of that history? It is really outrageous that they took your vlog off. And, I say that, as someone who doesn't fully agree with your viewpoint. Actually, I watched this vlog and I felt it treated men unfairly. It made me mad. That is good. Something that provokes you and challenges you to think is good whether you like it or not. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerAimee Buyea/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggervideoblogging@yahoogroups.com/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:09 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive/x-tad-bigger well i guess my work on gender issues is a little too provocative. Dear Patron: You recently uploaded an item to one of our collections. Curators had to remove it, possibly due to one of the following reasons: -Rights status unclear -Rights status appears inappropriate for our collections -Inappropriate content (eg, pornography) -Uploader requested the removal -Item content was empty or broken Although we appreciate your willingness to contribute, we would like to host only content that rightsholders will permit us to host. Please do not attempt to reupload this item. Thanks for your understanding! -an Internet Archive curator check it out! aimee http://onegirloneworld.blogspot.com/2005/11/warning-sites-linked-contain-adult.html SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vlog http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com It's worth a laugh and work friendly.
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
OK, since you brought it up - it must be saidthe best US Appelate Court opinion ever - Mattel, Inc vs. MCA Records, Inc. for trademark infringement on their Barbie mark and the counterclaim by MCA for defmation...in the US 9th Circuit...in the opinion of the court, Judge Kozinski writes... If this were a sci-fi melodrama, it might be called Speech-Zilla meets Trademark Kong. then insert about 30 pages of legal opinion and..in conclusion... MCA filed a counterclaim for defamation based on the Mattel representative's use of the words bank robber, heist, crime and theft. But all of these are variants of the invective most often hurled at accused infringers, namely piracy. No one hearing this accusation understands intellec- tual property owners to be saying that infringers are nautical cutthroats with eyepatches and peg legs who board galleons to plunder cargo. In context, all these terms are nonactionable rhetorical hyperbole, Gilbrook v. City of Westminster, 177 F.3d 839, 863 (9th Cir. 1999). The parties are advised to chill. AFFIRMED. Best...opinion...ev-ar! http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/2507FB5DDCB94D7088256C51F3B8/$file/9856453.pdf?openelement -m On 11/29/05, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It probably doesn't have anything to do with it being sexually provocative, it's just provoking a lawsuit... Mattel has a long history of suing like crazy over Barbie. just google barbie lawsuit... Still, it's a drag that it was removed. On 11/29/05, Aimee Buyea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well i guess my work on gender issues is a little too provocative. Dear Patron: You recently uploaded an item to one of our collections. Curators had to remove it, possibly due to one of the following reasons: -Rights status unclear -Rights status appears inappropriate for our collections -Inappropriate content (eg, pornography) -Uploader requested the removal -Item content was empty or broken Although we appreciate your willingness to contribute, we would like to host only content that rightsholders will permit us to host. Please do not attempt to reupload this item. Thanks for your understanding! -an Internet Archive curator check it out! aimee http://onegirloneworld.blogspot.com/2005/11/warning-sites-linked-contain-adult.html Yahoo! Groups Links -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- -m http://www.secretelite.com/michael Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
Well, the way I understand Our Media works, it's volunteer moderators who flag potential copyright-suspicious vids for later attorney review. In other words, let's find out why the vid was pulled directly from some moderator's mouth, and furthermore, invite an attorney to address this. Don't know how Archive.org handles such things. Anyone? Hell, I'd chip in $10 or $20 to hear an attorney's response in a videoconference. If 20 vidconference participants anti up that ought to cover an hour of the hapless attorney's time. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Nov 29, 2005, at 9:24 PM, Verdi wrote: I'm guessing it might have more to do with the copywritten music than Barbie. My daughter Dylan has had a video on the archive for a while now with Barbies in it. http://dylanverdi.com/index.php/2005/03/19/toys-of-our-lives/ -Verdi -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://graymattergravy.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: Barbie is notoriously jealous of her image. Nothing to do with provocative at all. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Aimee Buyea wrote: well i guess my work on gender issues is a little too provocative. Dear Patron: You recently uploaded an item to one of our collections. Curators had to remove it, possibly due to one of the following reasons: -Rights status unclear -Rights status appears inappropriate for our collections -Inappropriate content (eg, pornography) -Uploader requested the removal -Item content was empty or broken Although we appreciate your willingness to contribute, we would like to host only content that rightsholders will permit us to host. Please do not attempt to reupload this item. Thanks for your understanding! -an Internet Archive curator check it out! aimee http://onegirloneworld.blogspot.com/2005/11/warning-sites-linked- contain-adult.html Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
i find it had to believe we would get our money's worth Jan McLaughlin wrote: Well, the way I understand Our Media works, it's volunteer moderators who flag potential copyright-suspicious vids for later attorney review. In other words, let's find out why the vid was pulled directly from some moderator's mouth, and furthermore, invite an attorney to address this. Don't know how Archive.org handles such things. Anyone? Hell, I'd chip in $10 or $20 to hear an attorney's response in a videoconference. If 20 vidconference participants anti up that ought to cover an hour of the hapless attorney's time. Jan -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:09:29 +0100, Aimee Buyea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://onegirloneworld.blogspot.com/2005/11/warning-sites-linked-contain-adult.html I don't know whether I should laugh or cry. Barbie Too Hot For Internet Archive. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
Barbie is notoriously jealous of her image. Nothing to do with provocative at all. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Aimee Buyea wrote: well i guess my work on gender issues is a little too provocative. Dear Patron: You recently uploaded an item to one of our collections. Curators had to remove it, possibly due to one of the following reasons: -Rights status unclear -Rights status appears inappropriate for our collections -Inappropriate content (eg, pornography) -Uploader requested the removal -Item content was empty or broken Although we appreciate your willingness to contribute, we would like to host only content that rightsholders will permit us to host. Please do not attempt to reupload this item. Thanks for your understanding! -an Internet Archive curator check it out! aimee http://onegirloneworld.blogspot.com/2005/11/warning-sites-linked- contain-adult.html Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
I'm guessing it might have more to do with the copywritten music than Barbie. My daughter Dylan has had a video on the archive for a while now with Barbies in it. http://dylanverdi.com/index.php/2005/03/19/toys-of-our-lives/ -Verdi -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://graymattergravy.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: Barbie is notoriously jealous of her image. Nothing to do with provocative at all. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Aimee Buyea wrote: well i guess my work on gender issues is a little too provocative. Dear Patron: You recently uploaded an item to one of our collections. Curators had to remove it, possibly due to one of the following reasons: -Rights status unclear -Rights status appears inappropriate for our collections -Inappropriate content (eg, pornography) -Uploader requested the removal -Item content was empty or broken Although we appreciate your willingness to contribute, we would like to host only content that rightsholders will permit us to host. Please do not attempt to reupload this item. Thanks for your understanding! -an Internet Archive curator check it out! aimee http://onegirloneworld.blogspot.com/2005/11/warning-sites-linked- contain-adult.html Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
Does it make all of these services (incl. iTunes) unprofessional that they pull anything with copyrighted content with first checking if the content has been liscensed?On 11/29/05, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm guessing it might have more to do with the copywritten music than Barbie. My daughter Dylan has had a video on the archive for a while now with Barbies in it. http://dylanverdi.com/index.php/2005/03/19/toys-of-our-lives/ -Verdi -- Me: http://michaelverdi.com RD: http://graymattergravy.com Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: Barbie is notoriously jealous of her image. Nothing to do with provocative at all. Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Aimee Buyea wrote: well i guess my work on gender issues is a little too provocative. Dear Patron: You recently uploaded an item to one of our collections. Curators had to remove it, possibly due to one of the following reasons: -Rights status unclear -Rights status appears inappropriate for our collections -Inappropriate content (eg, pornography) -Uploader requested the removal -Item content was empty or broken Although we appreciate your willingness to contribute, we would like to host only content that rightsholders will permit us to host. Please do not attempt to reupload this item. Thanks for your understanding! -an Internet Archive curator check it out! aimee http://onegirloneworld.blogspot.com/2005/11/warning-sites-linked- contain-adult.html Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
around the 30/11/05 Ronen mentioned about Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive that: Does it make all of these services (incl. iTunes) unprofessional that they pull anything with copyrighted content with first checking if the content has been liscensed? not sure the tone of that, but no, it makes them professional :-) you always indicate (must indicate) licencing information in the credits, if you don't have a licence to use it, then you can't. There is an enormous amount of good video made in my home city (Melbourne) in schools. Most can not be broadcast on community TV because they continually use copyrighted content (music) in their productions. That is bad teaching, not a bad law (copyright law is stuffed, but the principle is fine). -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive
On 11/30/05, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: around the 30/11/05 Ronen mentioned about Re: [videoblogging] my video got taken off archive that: Does it make all of these services (incl. iTunes) unprofessional that they pull anything with copyrighted content with first checking if the content has been liscensed? whoopsie -- without checking not sure the tone of that, but no, it makes them professional :-) you always indicate (must indicate) licencing information in the credits, if you don't have a licence to use it, then you can't. ourmedia has a great system for taggin used / 'remixed' media There is an enormous amount of good video made in my home city (Melbourne) in schools. Most can not be broadcast on community TV because they continually use copyrighted content (music) in their productions. That is bad teaching, not a bad law I don't know about that. Have you ever taught a video class? Teaching the medium to either filmmakers or musicians becomes prohibitive without mixing up existing materials. The Kuleshov Workshop basically created modern montage by re-using D.W. Griffith's footage. (copyright law is stuffed, but the principle is fine). The principle is great, within a medium. Once you leave the source medium, realistically it is more like a 'cover' within the same medium, and limiting its use in the same manner causes many problems. Not the least of which, I can attest, is to classes at Universities. -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
