Re: OT: Vi in a browser...
On 5/30/07, Tim Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just stumbled across this link: http://gpl.internetconnection.net/vi/ for a basic implementation of Vi, authored in JavaScript. Sick, sick, sick. So just in case you're on a foreign computer that doesn't have vi/vim installed, and you need a fix, you can get it via the web. :) But you can't read/save disk files out of javascript, can you ? I thought javascript can't. Yakov
Re: breakindent, take 2
On 5/29/07, Nico Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think? I prefer (c) from implementation, efficiency and intuitivity perspective. I agree. Strongly. Yes, I agree with (c) , too. I suggested once new type of options to vim that behaved both like boolean, and numeric. But Bram rejected this. It's a pity because this would make for lesser number of options. Actually, the options that would be three-way boolean, and string, and numeric would be even better. Yakov
Re: breakindent, take 2
On 5/29/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/29/07, Nico Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think? I prefer (c) from implementation, efficiency and intuitivity perspective. I agree. Strongly. Yes, I agree with (c) , too. I suggested once new type of options to vim that behaved both like boolean, and numeric. But Bram rejected this. It's a pity because this would make for lesser number of options. Actually, the options that would be three-way boolean, and string, and numeric would be even better. An afterthought. A string-typed 'breakindent' option could work, too. Empty value=off, 0=on, +n, -n. Another advantage of string option is that you can add additional flags to it later, without multiplying number of new options ( a-la 'compatible', 'viminfo', 'giooptions' bag-of-flags ). Bram is always reluctant to add new options, so this can be a consideration. Yakov
Re: Why bottom-posting is prefered on Vim Mainling List?
On 5/28/07, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, In the spirit contrarianism, I'm going to top-post now. Actually, both parts of Mark's post below were of a _third_ variety: interlinear comments. I disagree. Interlinear is not third variety, but a subcategory of either top-posting, or of bottom-posting. To make it clearer: If someone A places his comment *below* the quote he is commenting on, this is bottom-posting, essentially -- although split in pieces. If B places his comments right *above* quotes he is commenting on, this is variant of bottom-posting. When you are commenting on a single quote of somebody, then what you call intelineated reduces to pure top-posting or bottom posting. There is yet another schol of responding, which is to erase all previous material completely and include only the response in the body. It can be summarised as you remember what you wrote, didn't you ? If you don't remember, it's not *my* problem BTW since nobody interlineates his comments *above* the quotes he's commenting on, I think this makes another argument for bottom-posting. Yakov
Re: Why bottom-posting is prefered on Vim Mainling List?
On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting some email clients have an option. But it does not help much. Top-vs-bottom depends on the specific mailing list. If I am on mailing list X which has convention of bottom-posting and also on mailing list Y which has convention of top-posting, then single option in mail client is not much helpful. gmail doesn't have this option at all, but I dont feel invonvenienced. Yakov
Re: VimWiki - First Beta
On 5/29/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5 Where can I see the recently posted/by recency view ? In other words, what's used for RSS ? Yakov
Re: Why bottom-posting is prefered on Vim Mainling List?
On 5/29/07, Ben Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds very archaic, but if I read mails with dumb terminals (baud rate 2400 bps), and if I am not familiar with the subject of the thread, top posting would be painful. It would especially be so to whoever has the honor of answering most of the questions on the list... But other than that, most of the times, I find bottom posting more inefficient. It feels like when I grade a student's report where the questions are mixed with answers and they are not quite visually separated. (On pine, they are not...) When I know what the question was, I come to wish that I had answers at the top, rather than having to page down several times to read the whole. At the same time, sometimes a nicely matched q a sorted in order saves me time... especially when I search old archives. You just illustrated the 3rd posting style, the clear-posting style. It has certain advantage over top-posting and bottom-posting. Clear-posting is fundamentally clean, space-efficient and free of top/bottom biases. But wrt top-posting vs bottom-posting. There is additional parameter that affect readabiltiy even more than top/bottom. It's number of past accumulated tails that you leave in the quotes. Some people do not cut away any past tails. After 4-5 levels of nesed quoting, this becomes unreadable both in top-style and in bottom-style. I cut away all but last 3 level of past quotes, and then I shorten them by dropping the greetings, the signature and irrelevant part. Shortness of quotes makes for for readabilty of the response. Multiple levels of fossilization make replies less readable, not the top/bottom difference. Yakov
Re: breakindent, take 2
On 5/14/07, Václav Šmilauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I submit patch that implements the 'breakindent' feature. It is on vim todo list, since the moment I tried a few years ago (see e.g. http://marc.info/?l=vim-devm=109921292009721w=1). Picture says what it's about (showbreak is aligned with first non-whitespace): http://beta.arcig.cz/~eudoxos/vim7/breakindent1.png http://beta.arcig.cz/~eudoxos/vim7/breakindent2.png I tried to address all Bram's comments he had to the original patch, like coding style, functionality in diff mode, selections etc. I had to change a few prototypes to pass line number. There is one bug and some (easily fixable) limitations: * BUG: there is some weird interaction with quickfix window, where very rarely there is the ml_get(): invalid line number error. I think it is caused by passing wrong line number thgouth the *chartabsize* family routines (line in the main buffer interpreted as line in the quickfix window or something like that), but I am not sure. * No test case. This will be added once there is enough interest from developers (there _is_ documentation). * The bri_min variable is not exposed to userspace yet, is set to 20 in the code. If the rest is considered ready for inclusion, I will add a user-serrable variable for that. The patch is against current svn (vim7, rev. 288). Any comments are welcome. Nice feature. I hope Bram includes it. Yakov
Re: breakindent, take 2
On 5/14/07, Václav Šmilauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I submit patch that implements the 'breakindent' feature. It is on vim todo list, since the moment I tried a few years ago (see e.g. http://marc.info/?l=vim-devm=109921292009721w=1). Picture says what it's about (showbreak is aligned with first non-whitespace): http://beta.arcig.cz/~eudoxos/vim7/breakindent1.png http://beta.arcig.cz/~eudoxos/vim7/breakindent2.png I tried to address all Bram's comments he had to the original patch, like coding style, functionality in diff mode, selections etc. I had to change a few prototypes to pass line number. There is one bug and some (easily fixable) limitations: * BUG: there is some weird interaction with quickfix window, where very rarely there is the ml_get(): invalid line number error. I think it is caused by passing wrong line number thgouth the *chartabsize* family routines (line in the main buffer interpreted as line in the quickfix window or something like that), but I am not sure. * No test case. This will be added once there is enough interest from developers (there _is_ documentation). * The bri_min variable is not exposed to userspace yet, is set to 20 in the code. If the rest is considered ready for inclusion, I will add a user-serrable variable for that. The patch is against current svn (vim7, rev. 288). Any comments are welcome. I played with the patch. Works smoothly, I did not find any deficiencies. I have one wish though. It would be nice if I could specificy additional indent for continuation lines. You make indent for continuation line *EQUAL* to indent of the 1st screen line. Let's say you have 3 consequitive long lines with same indent, and each lines wrapped into 4 screen lines. With current 'breakindent' patch, you see 8 lines with *same* indent. It's not that easy to see beginning of each long lines. If breakindent would be numeric value N which meant assign indent K+N to continuation indent, where K is indent of the line itself. Current breakindent corresponds to N==0. But I'd probably prefer N=1 or N==2. Just my 2 cents Thanks Yakov ** nobreakindent line1line1line1line1 line1line1line1line line2line2line2line2 line2line2line2line ** breakindent=0 line1line1line1line1 line1line1line1line line2line2line2line2 line2line2line2line ** breakindent=2 line1line1line1line1 line1line1line1line line2line2line2line2 line2line2line2line **
Re: Proposal: adding an extra hook into vim's search
On 5/28/07, Iain Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/05/07, Iain Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/05/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe you can achieve what you want using 'cmap expr' cleverly. ... I might still attempt a patch. Having the space replacement actually appear is visually distracting and makes the resulting search string hard to read. Having had a more detailed look at the code I'm bailing out of attempting this for now. Making the search history still work and be uncluttered of '\_s\+' seems fiddly. The natural way to do this seems to be making the magic types more flexible. The changes would be somewhat further reaching than I had initially anticipated and I wouldn't be happy doing it without there being consensus out there on a specification. Thanks again Yakov for the partial fix. I believe you can have uncluttered view of the regex AND incremental search at the same time using getchar() in vimscript, but that would be tons of vimscript programming. Yakov
Re: VimWiki - Page Titles
On 5/27/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I have prepared a list with problematic page titles. Especially titles
with chars like [/#{}[]*] and the like are problematic since mediawiki
doesnt allow them
Strange. Are you sure? I just created a page on wikia.com, page
titled '/hello/' and it created it without problems. Maybe ...;
encoding is needed ?
With slashes both in title and in summary and in category. You can see it here-
http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki//hello/
Page titled '/hello/'
You can try to create such manually and intercept what browser sends in
and the mimic this in the script maybe ? Because with manual submission, wikia
does seem to allow slashes in the title.
If you upload scripts using script, then did you try the ...; encoding ?
Yakov
Re: A performance question (patch included)
On 5/25/07, Charles E Campbell Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Beckett wrote:
A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
What about a different function to return, say, the number of
1K blocks (or the number of times 2^n bytes, with a parameter
passed to the function) that a file uses?
Yes, that's a much more general and better idea.
Since there's probably not much need for this, I think that
simplicity would be good. That is, have the function work in a
fixed way with no options.
Re Dr.Chip's LargeFile script: It occurs to me that another
workaround would be to use system() to capture the output of
'ls -l file' or 'dir file' (need an option for which).
Then do some funky editing to calculate the number of digits in
the file length. If more than 9, treat file as large.
I'm playing with a tiny utility to help the LargeFile script.
Bluesky: Its code (64-bit file size) could potentially be
incorporated in Vim. I'll post results in vim-dev.
(I've moved this over to vim-dev)
I've attached a patch to vim 7.1 which extends getfsize(); with the
patch, getfsize() takes an optional
second parameter which gives one the ability to specify a unitsize.
In other words,
getfsize(eval.c) - 478347 (after the patch)
getfsize(eval.c,1000) - 479 (truncated upwards)
I'll be awaiting Bram's input before making use of this in LargeFile.vim !
Regards,
Chip Campbell
*** src/o_eval.c2007-05-25 08:52:12.0 -0400
--- src/eval.c 2007-05-25 09:04:43.0 -0400
***
*** 7094,7100
{getcwd,0, 0, f_getcwd},
{getfontname, 0, 1, f_getfontname},
{getfperm, 1, 1, f_getfperm},
! {getfsize, 1, 1, f_getfsize},
{getftime, 1, 1, f_getftime},
{getftype, 1, 1, f_getftype},
{getline, 1, 2, f_getline},
--- 7094,7100
{getcwd,0, 0, f_getcwd},
{getfontname, 0, 1, f_getfontname},
{getfperm, 1, 1, f_getfperm},
! {getfsize, 1, 2, f_getfsize},
{getftime, 1, 1, f_getftime},
{getftype, 1, 1, f_getftype},
{getline, 1, 2, f_getline},
***
*** 10135,10142
{
if (mch_isdir(fname))
rettv-vval.v_number = 0;
! else
rettv-vval.v_number = (varnumber_T)st.st_size;
}
else
rettv-vval.v_number = -1;
--- 10135,10151
{
if (mch_isdir(fname))
rettv-vval.v_number = 0;
! else if (argvars[1].v_type == VAR_UNKNOWN)
rettv-vval.v_number = (varnumber_T)st.st_size;
+ else
+ {
+ unsigned long unitsize;
+ unsigned long stsize;
+ unitsize= get_tv_number(argvars[1]);
+ stsize= st.st_size/unitsize;
+ if(stsize*unitsize st.st_size) ++stsize;
+ rettv-vval.v_number = (varnumber_T) stsize;
+ }
}
else
rettv-vval.v_number = -1;
*** runtime/doc/o_eval.txt 2007-05-25 09:00:08.0 -0400
--- runtime/doc/eval.txt2007-05-25 09:06:19.0 -0400
***
*** 1615,1621
getcmdtype() String return the current command-line type
getcwd() String the current working directory
getfperm( {fname})String file permissions of file {fname}
! getfsize( {fname})Number size in bytes of file {fname}
getfontname( [{name}])String name of font being used
getftime( {fname})Number last modification time of file
getftype( {fname})String description of type of file {fname}
--- 1615,1621
getcmdtype() String return the current command-line type
getcwd() String the current working directory
getfperm( {fname})String file permissions of file {fname}
! getfsize( {fname} [,unitsize])Number size in bytes of file {fname}
getfontname( [{name}])String name of font being used
getftime( {fname})Number last modification time of file
getftype( {fname})String description of type of file {fname}
***
*** 2819,2827
getcwd() The result is a String, which is the name of the current
working directory.
! getfsize({fname}) *getfsize()*
The result is a Number, which is the size in bytes of the
given file {fname}.
If {fname} is a directory, 0 is returned.
If the file {fname} can't be found, -1 is returned.
--- 2819,2829
getcwd() The result is a String, which is the name of the current
working directory.
! getfsize({fname} [,unitsize]) *getfsize()*
The result is a Number, which is the size in bytes of the
given file {fname}.
+ If unitsize is given, then the file {fname}'s
Re: Proposal: adding an extra hook into vim's search
On 5/26/07, Iain Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Searching for hello world in vim doesn't match hello\nworld.
This is annoying when editing documents. The solution is to
search for hello\_sworld. But it is frustrating to type \_s
instead of a space in every search.
I have been getting around this by calling my own search function
(appended at the very end of this email). This issue has also
been discussed before:
http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=256743
and the solution then was to use a vim-script function too.
The problem with vim-script hacks is that they do not provide
incremental searching. I often find myself doing an incsearch,
having it fail and then having to try again with my own search
function. It might be possible to re-implement incsearch in
vim-script, but why reinvent the wheel? I think it would be
better if I could hook into vim's existing interactive search
mechanisms. For reference, emacs has an option to change the
meaning of ' ' in its incremental regex search (obtained with
M-C-s), the option is set in .emacs with
(setq search-whitespace-regexp [ \t\r\n]+)
I intend to write a patch for vim, if only for my own use. It
seems that I could do one of a few things:
- add an option to allow search strings to be filtered
through an arbitrary user function before being used
- add a string option that would replace ' ' in searches.
- add a Boolean option which offers one specific line-break
ignoring behaviour.
- extend the behaviour of the magic option (how?)
Which (if any) of these is likely to be adopted?
Perhaps these lines in doc/todo.txt are relevant? I don't really
understand them:
From xvim: Allow a newline in search patterns (also for :s,
can delete newline). Add BOW, EOW, NEWL, NLORANY, NLBUTANY,
magic 'n' and 'r', etc. [not in xvim:] Add option to switch
on matches crossing ONE line boundary.
Can anyone tell me what xvim is, what the acronyms stand for and
what the reference to magic options means?
Thanks for your time,
Iain.
This is the search function I have been using:
function! MySearch()
let l:str = input('/')
let l:str = substitute(l:str, ,'\\_s\\+',g)
let @/ = l:str
call histadd('/',l:str)
call search(l:str)
endfunction
I believe you can achieve what you want using 'cmap expr' cleverly.
Does this following do what you want ? You toggle special behaviour
of space in searching with F2, and you have incsearch, too.
Special-space is off in the following example, you can make it on
by inclugint this line: call ToggleSpecialSpaceSearch()
to set ;special space in search' on by default, do this:
call ToggleSpecialSpaceSearch()
nnoremap silentf2 :call ToggleSpecialSpaceSearch()cr
cnoremap exprf2 (ToggleSpecialSpaceSearch())
func! ToggleSpecialSpaceSearch()
if exists('g:my_search') g:my_search
cunmap space
let g:my_search=0
echo 'space in search normal'
else
cnoremap exprspace
(getcmdtype()=='/'\|\|getcmdtype()=='?'?'\_s\+':' ')
let g:my_search=1
echo 'space in search special'
endif
return ''
endfun
Yakov
Re: A performance question
On 5/25/07, John Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: What about a different function to return, say, the number of 1K blocks (or the number of times 2^n bytes, with a parameter passed to the function) that a file uses? Yes, that's a much more general and better idea. Since there's probably not much need for this, I think that simplicity would be good. That is, have the function work in a fixed way with no options. Re Dr.Chip's LargeFile script: It occurs to me that another workaround would be to use system() to capture the output of 'ls -l file' or 'dir file' (need an option for which). Then do some funky editing to calculate the number of digits in the file length. If more than 9, treat file as large. 9-digit number can still be larger than 2^32-1, or than 2^31-1. It's possible to compare large numbers safely with the following method: (1) right-align them to fixed with (say, to width 20 to be on the safe side), then (2) prepend non-ditit character on the left to prevent vim from terating them as string and getting numeric overflow, then (3) compare them as strings. Like this: bignum1=987654321 bignum2=876543210 x=printf(x%20s, bignum1) do not use %d to avoid overflow, use %s y=printf(x%20s, bignum2) do not use %d to avoid overflow, use %s if x y bignum1 is bigger than bignum2 endif Yakov
Re: A performance question
On 5/25/07, Yongwei Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/05/07, Robert M Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2007, fREW wrote: |Someone recently was emailing the list about looking at a small |section of DNA with vim as text and it was a number of gigs. I think |he ended up using other unix tools (sed and grep I think), but |nontheless, text files can be big too ;-) | |-fREW | A maxim that comes up here is A lack of imagination doesn't prove anything. The fact that Condoleeza Rice couldn't imagine the degree of chaos that would ensue if we invaded Iraq does not prove that Iraq is not currently in chaos! I use vim for _structured_ text files, largely because regular expression search is much more useful than word search when the text is structured. Whether those files are large or not usually depends on whether I'm editing programs (small) or viewing/editing their output (often quite large). Emacs also provides regular expression search, but I find vim's commands simpler and easier to type--and therefore faster to use. I do not understand your statements: what's your problem of using regular expressions in grep and sed? I think Robert implied that it takes lot of imagination to use vim on multi-gigabyte size. I might be wrong. I don't exactly understand the connection size of one's imagination and size of the file on which one applies vim. But the connection is perfectly possible. For example, I never tried to run vim on anything bigger than 0.5GB and I do indeed have average or lesser than average imagination. Hell starting tomorrow, I am going to vim the 2+0.2*day_count sized files, every day, It only remains to buy imagine-o-meter, and apply it daily. Yakov average-sized imagination Lerner
Re: VimWiki - referring to vimdoc
On 5/23/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im tweaking the import script right now, and noticed that there are many references to the :help. I would like to replace all the occurrences of sth. like (:help some-text) by a reference to vimdoc. Does someone know how what URL could be used instead of :help sometext ?? I found the link http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/tags.html#help-tags but the page is not available. (404) You can use following URL to find tags matching SOMETEXT: http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/search.php?docs=helpsearch=SOMETEXT Yakov
Re: Is it possible to do spelling check for comments only?
On 5/22/07, Edward L. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/21/07, Swaroop C H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When programming, I have to turn the spelling check off. Or it will show a lot of spelling mistakes in the code. I'd like to apply spelling check for sentences within the comment blocks only. Is it possible to configure VIM to do this? See :help spell-syntax Hmmm, so that means that I could only define which regions to be spelling checked in the syntax highlight plugins. It's expected that syntax file would enable/allow spelling in comments. But it's added by synatx file maintainers, no ? Is it a problem of a specific language you are using ? Which language specifically are you talking about ? I think most-used languages do have spelling enabled in the comments. The less used languages might not yet have this added by their respective maintainer. not all, because this is relatively new feature and I do not think all syntax maintainers added this. But maybe I am wrong and I'm missing something. Which language are you talking about ? Yakov
Re: How to get value of ~ (last used replace-to string) in script
On 5/21/07, Antony Scriven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/20/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a script, how do I get the value of ~ -- the last used
replace-to string, as used in s//~/ ?
Yakov
Quick hack. --Antony
fun! EchoTilde()
$ put=''
s/^/~/
let tilde = getline('.')
d
echo tilde
endfun
~ can be multiline. Then d would not work correctly.
u would be better. but even then, buffer can be marked nonmodifiable.
Yakov
Re: How to compile graphical Vim on Mandriva 2007?
On 5/21/07, Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 May 2007 15:51, you wrote: On 5/20/07, Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I tried to compile graphical Vim 7.1 on Mandriva 2007. I downloaded vim-7.1.tar.bz2, untarred it, and did the following from the top level directory created (vim71): ./configure --enable-gui make src/vim -g The following error message appeared: E25: GUI cannot be used: Not enabled at compile time I retried, after make distclean, with the following configure options: enable-gui=gtk enable-gui=gtk2 enable-gui=auto All produced the same error: E25: GUI cannot be used: Not enabled at compile time I chose not to perform make install in order to preserve the integrity of my existing Vim 7.0 that came with Mandriva 2007. Anyone know how to compile graphical Vim on Mandriva 2007, or at least some diagnostic tests I can use to narrow down the problem? You need to install gtk2-devel package. Also, the x11-devel package if it's not installed. The exact names of packages may vary between distributions. But the idea is, you are missing development packages (*-devel or *-dev) needed to compile GUI functionality of vim. Thanks Yakov, I can't find them anywhere in the distribution packages. Funny thing is, Gnome works, and Mandriva managed to get a working 7.0 version of gvim installed on the machine as a package. Yes, this is expected. Because build-dependencies of vim-gtk are bigger than run-dependencies. If your packaging system is apt-get, then you can see names of packages to install with this command: apt-get build-dep vim-gtk # install all devel packages # needed to rebuild vim-gtk If your packaging system is rpm or some else, then it's not that straightforward to find names of the missing packages, those packages that are needed to rebuild vim-gtk. Use rpmfind.net if your packaging system is rpm. Yakov
undo replace in multiple files
Let's say I do multi-file replace like 'argdo %s/foo/bar/g', and I 'autowrite' and 'nohidden' options are set. So the argdo will replace and write files, because of 'autowrite' is on. My question is, is there any trick to do 'undo' after that that would undo all changed files in this situation ? Thanks Yakov
Re: Vim 7.1 errors
On 5/21/07, Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Hicks wrote: This could be just something I am doing wrong. I am creating my .vimrc file and once I put: set laststatus=2 in and save and then open Vim I get the following error: sccs: command not found tr: at least one string must be given when squeezing repeats Any ideas? This is what I compiled with: :version VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled May 21 2007 15:18:20) Huge version without GUI. Features included (+) or not (-): +arabic +autocmd -balloon_eval -browse ++builtin_terms +byte_offset +cindent -clientserver -clipboard +cmdline_compl +cmdline_hist +cmdline_info +comments +cryptv +cscope +cursorshape +dialog_con +diff +digraphs -dnd -ebcdic +emacs_tags +eval +ex_extra +extra_search +farsi +file_in_path +find_in_path +folding -footer +fork() -gettext -hangul_input +iconv +insert_expand +jumplist +keymap +langmap +libcall +linebreak +lispindent +listcmds +localmap +menu +mksession +modify_fname +mouse -mouseshape +mouse_dec +mouse_gpm -mouse_jsbterm +mouse_netterm +mouse_xterm +multi_byte +multi_lang -mzscheme -netbeans_intg -osfiletype +path_extra +perl +postscript +printer +profile -python +quickfix +reltime +rightleft -ruby +scrollbind +signs +smartindent -sniff +statusline -sun_workshop +syntax +tag_binary +tag_old_static -tag_any_white -tcl +terminfo +termresponse +textobjects +title -toolbar +user_commands +vertsplit +virtualedit +visual +visualextra +viminfo +vreplace +wildignore +wildmenu +windows +writebackup -X11 -xfontset -xim -xsmp -xterm_clipboard -xterm_save system vimrc file: $VIM/vimrc user vimrc file: $HOME/.vimrc user exrc file: $HOME/.exrc fall-back for $VIM: /usr/local/share/vim Compilation: gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DDEBUGGING -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gdbm -I/usr/lib/pe rl5/5.8.5/ia64-linux-thread-multi/CORE Linking: gcc -Wl,-E -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/ia64-linux-thread-multi/CORE -L/usr/local/li b -o vim -lncurses -lacl -lgpm -Wl,-E -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/ia64-linux-thread-multi/ CORE -L/usr/local/lib /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/ia64-linux-thread-multi/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/ usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/ia64-linux-thread-multi/CORE -lperl -lresolv -lm -lutil -lc Press ENTER or type command to continue Help? Robert I also tried the latest CVS version and I get the same error. Any plugins in ~/.vim/plugin ? What does :scriptnames show ? Yakov
Re: remote editing and spell list sync
On 5/19/07, Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use remote editing a lot (rsync protocol) and want to keep the spelling lists on both machines always synchromised. Is the best way with unison(1) or suchlike or is there a better way? I tried unison, but then I found that personal svn/hg/git/cvs is much better. For many years, I have been using personal svn. Then I switched to git. It's matter of taste which VCS to use. But it beats unison, to my opinion. One problem of VCS is that there are many any choices. hg and svn are both good choices. Yakov
How to get value of ~ (last used replace-to string) in script
In a script, how do I get the value of ~ -- the last used replace-to string, as used in s//~/ ? Yakov
Re: How to compile graphical Vim on Mandriva 2007?
On 5/20/07, Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I tried to compile graphical Vim 7.1 on Mandriva 2007. I downloaded vim-7.1.tar.bz2, untarred it, and did the following from the top level directory created (vim71): ./configure --enable-gui make src/vim -g The following error message appeared: E25: GUI cannot be used: Not enabled at compile time I retried, after make distclean, with the following configure options: enable-gui=gtk enable-gui=gtk2 enable-gui=auto All produced the same error: E25: GUI cannot be used: Not enabled at compile time I chose not to perform make install in order to preserve the integrity of my existing Vim 7.0 that came with Mandriva 2007. Anyone know how to compile graphical Vim on Mandriva 2007, or at least some diagnostic tests I can use to narrow down the problem? You need to install gtk2-devel package. Also, the x11-devel package if it's not installed. The exact names of packages may vary between distributions. But the idea is, you are missing development packages (*-devel or *-dev) needed to compile GUI functionality of vim. Yakov
Re: C-X C-F completion and paths with spaces
On 5/20/07, Matthew Winn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't begin to imagine why Microsoft thought it would be a good idea to put spaces in the names of system directories I have two theories about this. 1) MS lifted the idea from Macintosh 2) MS, long humiliated by inferiority complex of the 8+3 FAT16 filenames, did it to subvert the idea of unix shell scripting powers. To create, that is, the files that break unix shell scripts (remember samba ? ). Yakov
Re: How to get value of ~ (last used replace-to string) in script
On 5/21/07, Tim Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a script, how do I get the value of ~ -- the last used
replace-to string, as used in s//~/ ?
While I've wondered this in the past, and don't have an answer at
the moment,
It seems natural to patch expand() function to return this.
The question which argument to use. expand('~') ?
This is home directory. expand('s~') maybe ?
Yakov
Re: how to display a column line at righ margin?
On 5/19/07, Ken YANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, can you guide me how to display a column line at right margin, e.g. 80, as gedit and eclipse do. i find this thread in mails archive: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/vim/message/33159 but the method told in this thread is useless, it has some erros when i start vim in gnome-terminal. 1. this command shall not have problems in gvim or vim: :match Error /\%79v/ You probably used different command if you get errors. 2. Another method is to vsplit, and make width of left pane 80 chars, and work in it. Yakov
Re: C-X C-F completion and paths with spaces
On 5/19/07, Maciej Kalisiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow Vimmers, Can any of you that work on Windows tell me how you handle filename completion (C-X C-F) for paths that contain spaces? I love this completion method, but as soon as I get to C:\Document and Settings\, it stops working, because of course a space character is not in 'isfname' (so it tries to complete just Settings), and putting it in makes no sense (Vim won't know where the path starts). How do you deal with it? Or is there simply no hope? I think you can add space to isfname, but then you need to make sure your pathnames are all either (1) double-quoted, or (2) surrounded by some other char that can't be in the pathname, like '|', or (3) are on the line by themselves. Maybe there are other solutions. Yakov
Re: Re-trigger modelines
On 5/12/07, Steve Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to re-trigger the read/execution of modelines? My autocommands are overriding my modelines but I want the reverse. Maybe you add global flag check to your autocommands; the flag that when set, suppresses your suppression, and then you set this flag: :let g:my_nomodelines=0 and then :e ? Yakov
Re: [Announcement] Subversion repository location changed
On 5/9/07, Edward L. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had checked out a copy of the sources before, please run this command in your source root directory to switch into the current branch: svn switch https://vim.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/branches/vim7.1 This switch command gives me error: $ cd vim7 $ svn info Path: . URL: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/vim7 Repository Root: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim Repository UUID: 2a77ed30-b011-0410-a7ad-c7884a0aa172 Revision: 263 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: edyfox Last Changed Rev: 263 Last Changed Date: 2007-05-06 23:13:56 -0400 (Sun, 06 May 2007) $ svn switch https://vim.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/branches/vim7.1 svn: 'https://vim.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/branches/vim7.1' is not the same repository as 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim' What am I doign wrong ? Yakov
Re: what feature is required to return to last editing position?
On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When opening a file in vim, the cursor will move to the last position when the file was saved. The feature is enabled by some autocommands in vimrc_example.vim, I copied the code into my .vimrc and use it in all platform. It really does work in my WindowsXP gvim, cygwin vim, MacOSX vim, and Ubuntu Dapper vim. Recently I installed Ubuntu Feisty and the feature seems to have gone (I installed vim-gnome version 7.0.135). Since I use the same .vimrc in all platform, it is unlikely to be the fault of my .vimrc script, the problem is I do not know how to debug vim script, and I don't know why that autocommand does not work. Any idea where is the problem, or any hint on how to find where the problem is? The simplest way to fix this is to add this line to your .vimrc: $VIMRUNTIME/vimrc_example.vim Another, more difficult method is documented under :help restore-cursor Yakov
Re: [Announcement] Subversion repository location changed
On 5/9/07, Edward L. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had checked out a copy of the sources before, please run this command in your source root directory to switch into the current branch: svn switch https://vim.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/branches/vim7.1 This switch command gives me error: $ cd vim7 $ svn info Path: . URL: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/vim7 Repository Root: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim Repository UUID: 2a77ed30-b011-0410-a7ad-c7884a0aa172 Revision: 263 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: edyfox Last Changed Rev: 263 Last Changed Date: 2007-05-06 23:13:56 -0400 (Sun, 06 May 2007) $ svn switch https://vim.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/branches/vim7.1 svn: 'https://vim.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/branches/vim7.1' is not the same repository as 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim' What am I doign wrong ? Yakov
Vim version 7.1a BETA -- runtime files ?
On 5/5/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcing: Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.1a BETA I compared runtime files form ftp [1] and from svn [2]. Both vims are labeled vim71a. But many runtimes are different. In svn, many files are labeled 2007. In ftp, they are 2006 versions. Why this difference in runtimes ? Yakov [1] ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.1a.tar.bz2 [2] https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/vim7
Re: Vim version 7.1a BETA -- runtime files ?
On 5/8/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: On 5/5/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcing: Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.1a BETA I compared runtime files form ftp [1] and from svn [2]. Both vims are labeled vim71a. But many runtimes are different. In svn, many files are labeled 2007. In ftp, they are 2006 versions. Why this difference in runtimes ? Yakov [1] ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.1a.tar.bz2 [2] https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/vim7 Do I need to hunt down the differences? Please give a specific example. What label are you talking about? At closer examination, differences turned out to be in $Id..$, $Revision..$ $Date...$ lines only, except for one file which has read differences: runtime/autoload/spellfile.vim -- see diffs below. By labels I meant the cvs $Id...$ keywords and other $..$ keywords. Full diffs are attached. Diffs are produced by the script diff-vim-ftp-svn.sh, also attached. diff -r --exclude=.svn /var/tmp/vim-untar/vim71a/runtime/autoload/spellfile.vim /var/tmp/vim-svn/vim7/runtime/autoload/spellfile.vim 3c3 Last Change:2006 Aug 29 --- Last Change:2007 May 06 60a61 Remember the buffer number, we check it below. 61a63 let newbufnr = winbufnr(0) 67c69,88 g/^/d --- Careful: Nread() may have opened a new window for the error message, we need to go back to our own buffer and window. if newbufnr != winbufnr(0) let winnr = bufwinnr(newbufnr) if winnr == -1 Our buffer has vanished!? Open a new window. echomsg download buffer disappeared, opening a new one new setlocal bin else exe winnr . wincmd w endif endif if newbufnr == winbufnr(0) We are back the old buffer, remove any (half-finished) download. g/^/d else let newbufnr = winbufnr(0) endif 73c94 bwipe! --- exe newbufnr . bwipe! 99,101c120 if getline(2) !~ 'VIMsug' echo 'Sorry, downloading failed' else --- if getline(2) =~ 'VIMsug' 103a123,136 set nomod else echo 'Sorry, downloading failed' Go back to our own buffer/window, Nread() may have taken us to another window. if newbufnr != winbufnr(0) let winnr = bufwinnr(newbufnr) if winnr != -1 exe winnr . wincmd w endif endif if newbufnr == winbufnr(0) set nomod endif 105d137 set nomod 109c141,142 bwipe --- Wipe out the buffer we used. exe newbufnr . bwipe diffs Description: Binary data diff-vim-ftp-svn.sh Description: Bourne shell script
Re: Vim version 7.1a BETA -- runtime files ?
On 5/8/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Full diffs are attached. Diffs are produced by the script diff-vim-ftp-svn.sh, also attached. Re-sending attachments which came out zero-length in previous email. Yakov diffs Description: Binary data diff-vim-ftp-svn.sh Description: Bourne shell script
filename completion
Let's say I want to see which files end with t. When I do :e *ttab vim shows not only files anding with t but all files containing t, as if I did :e *t*Tab. How can I limit the filename completion only to files ending with t ? Yakov
Re: Vim version 7.1a BETA -- svn ?
On 5/6/07, Martin Krischik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag 06 Mai 2007 schrieb Yakov Lerner: On 2007-05-05, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcing: Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.1a BETA I tried to build vim7.1 from svn. But all I get from usual svn location (https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vim/vim7), is vim 7.0.236. Will vim7.1 be served at this localtion eventually ? That is probalby because the svn server is a mess. I have to disagree. The svn maintainer does valuable service to the community. The svn service is really stable, unlike the cvs server. I'd like to really thank the svn updater for keeping the svn updated. The reason why updates did not make it to svn was that cvs server was down, as Bram explained above. Yakov
Re: how to enable mouse in vim of cygwin
On 5/4/07, sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using cygwin and rxvt. It works quite well, since you don't need to start an X server for the application - it just runs. Put the following in your cygwin launcher (cygwin_rxvt.bat for me): @echo off C: chdir C:\cygwin\bin set SHELL=/bin/bash rxvt -ls -sr -sl 1500 -fn Lucida ConsoleP-12 -bg black -fg grey and in your .bashrc: export TERM=rxvt-cygwin-native your mouse should work fine with rxvt (mine does!) Cheers yes, I like this way. But when I open the vim, it is extremely slow, it needs about half minute to open a file, what is the problem? try 'vim -X' Yakov
[patch] search() flag to not use smartcase
The patch adds flag to search() flag to not use smartcase. '*' and '#' do not use smartcase, but search() always uses smartcase (cannot be turned off). When we use search() with @/ pattern that comes from * or #, search() fails because of discrepancy in smartcase handling. Yakov --- runtime/doc/eval.txt.0002007-05-03 09:35:19.0 -0400 +++ runtime/doc/eval.txt2007-05-03 09:36:21.0 -0400 @@ -4086,6 +4086,7 @@ 'n' do Not move the cursor 'p' return number of matching sub-pattern (see below) 's' set the ' mark at the previous location of the cursor + 'S' do not use smartcase 'w' wrap around the end of the file 'W' don't wrap around the end of the file If neither 'w' or 'W' is given, the 'wrapscan' option applies. --- src/eval.c.000 2007-05-03 09:07:52.0 -0400 +++ src/eval.c 2007-05-03 09:34:50.0 -0400 @@ -13813,6 +13813,7 @@ case 'b': dir = BACKWARD; break; case 'w': p_ws = TRUE; break; case 'W': p_ws = FALSE; break; + case 'S': no_smartcase = TRUE; break; default: mask = 0; if (flagsp != NULL) switch (*flags)
Re: [patch] search() flag to not use smartcase
On 5/3/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: The patch adds flag to search() flag to not use smartcase. '*' and '#' do not use smartcase, but search() always uses smartcase (cannot be turned off). When we use search() with @/ pattern that comes from * or #, search() fails because of discrepancy in smartcase handling. Yakov --- runtime/doc/eval.txt.0002007-05-03 09:35:19.0 -0400 +++ runtime/doc/eval.txt2007-05-03 09:36:21.0 -0400 @@ -4086,6 +4086,7 @@ 'n' do Not move the cursor 'p' return number of matching sub-pattern (see below) 's' set the ' mark at the previous location of the cursor + 'S' do not use smartcase 'w' wrap around the end of the file 'W' don't wrap around the end of the file If neither 'w' or 'W' is given, the 'wrapscan' option applies. Looks a bit inconsistent. Why not also add a flag to ignore 'ignorecase' and 'magic'? Yes. After I sent out a patch, I realized I can fix my problem by saving,clearing, and restoring the 'smartcase' option. Sorry. Yakov
Re: wish: show search progress on slow searches
On 5/1/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/30/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [This is development, removed the Vim maillist] Yakov Lerner wrote: On 4/29/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/29/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: Wish: when search is slow, show the progress line number every second on the bottom line (like, 12345 of 9). What is slow? To my taste, when something takes longer than 1-2 sec, I'd prefer some visual feedback on the progress. Checking if the second passed will make the search even slower. Checking time is quite slow on some systems (the check for CTRL-C suffers from this). Checking for time every several hundred (N) lines will probably not slow the search perceptibly. N can be configurable, a parameter. Some value between 10 and 1000 will probaby be reasonable. I think it's possibe to check for time, which searching, not too often and not too seldom, even without user-defined parameter. Adaptive algorithm with two counters will find the right rate or time-checking: - as we start search, we check time every 50 lines (N=50 is initial value of N). We maintain counter M. M is how many times we called time() between the seconds changed. M is checked and reset every second. M is checked as folllows: - If M is too high (M10), then we adjust N by increasing it. If M is too low(M10), then we adjust N by decreasing it. Ideally, we want to check time() ~10 times per second. (overhead of 10 calls to time() per second cannot he high, right ?) - if search progresses for several seconds, then N quickly converges to the ideal value (~10 checks/sec). - we start every search with same value of N (say, 50). If search is slow, then N will quickly converge to the ideal value for this regex, the value in which where time() is checked ~10 times per second. It will help for differences in speed for various patterns, but it won't help for lines differing in length. Quite a few patterns with wildcards depend on the line length a lot. It might work better to adjust to the delay caused by the time function. This varies greatly between systems. When it's fast we can check the time often, when it's slow it delays the search more and should be called less often. How about using SIGALRM when search is progressing, every second ? SIGALRM handler would store time() into global var (and reload alarm(1)). The search would check the global var for changes, every line. It is cheap to check global integer (time_t) var, no ? What do you think about SIGALRM, Bram ? Yakov
Re: undo line numbers wrong
On 5/2/07, Robert Cussons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yakov Lerner wrote:
On 5/2/07, Robert Cussons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yakov Lerner wrote:
On 4/27/07, Robert Cussons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Tony, doubt he'll be that interested as he's an emacs user! But
anyway some time next week I will try and convince him.
You can install latest vim under your $HOME -- this does not
require any root privileges -- with a single command, a script
'vim7-install.sh'.
Script vim7-install.sh is at
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1473
vim7-install.sh : {download + build + install} latest vim7 [from
svn sources] in 1 command
Yakov
Thanks very much Yakov, just done that and it seems to have worked fine,
there's just a couple of curious things:
1) below is the first part of the output, what are the errors right at
the bottom of this part?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sh ./vim7-install.sh
This will download, build and install vim7 (using svn).
Select one of the following:
1) You know root password and you want to install
vim globally for all users on this computer
(into /usr/local/bin)
2) You do not know root password or you want to
install vim under your $HOME/bin directory
2
# previously downloaded source found.
* checking for locally modified files ...
Found locally modified files
(dir=/var/tmp/user4046/vim7_from_svn/vim7) *
M src/auto/config.mk
Found locally modified files
(dir=/var/tmp/user4046/vim7_from_svn/vim7) *
Select (1) Discard local changes (2) Keep local changes [1] ?
2
+ cd /var/tmp/user4046/vim7_from_svn/vim7
+ svn up
Error validating server certificate for
'https://svn.sourceforge.net:443':
- The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the
fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!
Certificate information:
- Hostname: *.sourceforge.net
- Valid: from Jan 17 18:17:01 2007 GMT until Mar 18 18:17:01 2008 GMT
- Issuer: Equifax Secure Certificate Authority, Equifax, US
- Fingerprint:
a1:3a:51:83:60:5e:81:07:be:6c:06:d1:db:34:9b:d8:b9:40:b5:d0
(R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently? p
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/vim/vim7'
svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/vim/vim7': Could not read status line: Secure
connection truncated (https://svn.sourceforge.net)
svn returned error(s). Press Enter to continue, Ctrl-C to stop
2) it says I should validate the certificate manually, but how do you
actually go about doing that?
3) the final part of the output is as follows:
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/user4046/vim7_from_svn/vim7/src'
Build and install successful
***
***
Warning: directory $HOME/bin is not in you PATH!
You need to add directory $HOME/bin to your PATH to run new vim
but if I do the following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin$ echo $HOME
/the/cussons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin$ echo $PATH
/usr/the_local/bin/:/usr/bin/:/the/cussons/bin/:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/the/cussons/bin/clewn/:/the/cussons/LeoScript/crudeleo-1.9/
you can see that $HOME/bin is in my PATH, therefore, does your error
message actually mean that as there is a version of vim in /usr/bin/
that this one will be loaded first and therefore, I should place
/the/cussons/bin/ before it in the PATH to give it preference?
1. Just answer 'p' to accept the certificate permanently.
2. The check for $HOME/bin in the path is not comlpete indeed.
a) Type 'type vim' in bash to see which vim is taken, one from
your /usr/bin or from $HOME/bin.
b) Put $HOME/bin to the *front* of your path, before /usr/bin and before
/usr/local/bin and before all other dirs that might contain other
version of vim.
c) Additionally, put this in your .bashrc:
alias vim=$HOME/bin/vim'
d) I recommend that you do both (b) and (c), and then check 'type vim'
again.
I will need to fix vim7-install.sh to fix that $HOME/bin in the end.
I need to check that $HOME/bin is before other /usr/* dirs,
not only *somewhere* in the PATH. Somewhere in the PATH
is not good check. In your case, script was confused by the trailing
slash in $HOME/bin/, it expects $HOME/bin. I'll fix that, too. Thanks
for reporting.
Yakov
Thanks for the utility, had already resolved the problems with the PATH
just thought I should let you know.
Is the part below in the error just to do with the certificate, or
something else?
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/vim/vim7'
svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/vim/vim7': Could not read status line: Secure
connection truncated (https://svn.sourceforge.net)
svn returned error(s). Press Enter to continue, Ctrl-C to stop
Also what does it mean by manually validating the certificate, it is not
relevant to this install, but just wondering if anyone out there knows
what it means?
Error validating server certificate for
'https
Re: savevers plugin
On 5/3/07, Waters, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking at using the savevers plugin. I don't think it does exactly what I am looking for. Why don't you set savevers_max to 9 ? Do you plan to have more than 9 versions ? (if I underdtand your request right). Otherwise, your request sounds strange. It sounds like this: I want to set savevers_max to 3, and I want savevers to ignore this. It's like I want vim to go to line 10 when I tell him to go to line 5. Why would you want to set savevers_max to wrong value instead of desired value (999) in the first place ? Yakov I want the old version of my file to be saved regardless of what savevers_max is set to. If I set savevers_max to three and I save for the fourth time, I want the oldest, saved version of the file to be deleted and I want my latest last-version to be saved. My files would go from this... -rw-r- 1 eralston admin 226 Sep 20 11:43 test.txt -rw-r- 1 eralston admin 102 Sep 20 11:12 test.txt.0001.clean -rw-r- 1 eralston admin 106 Sep 20 11:14 test.txt.0002.clean -rw-r- 1 eralston admin 132 Sep 20 11:22 test.txt.0003.clean To this... -rw-r- 1 eralston admin 226 Sep 20 11:43 test.txt -rw-r- 1 eralston admin 106 Sep 20 11:14 test.txt.0002.clean -rw-r- 1 eralston admin 132 Sep 20 11:22 test.txt.0003.clean -rw-r- 1 eralston admin 148 Sep 20 11:34 test.txt.0004.clean Anyway to do this? Anybody already hacked savevers to do this? Or have some clever mappings to handle this? A related question... is there a way to use a single backup directory for all files? I think it would need to have a way to make all file names unique. So that saving /dir1/a.txt wouldn't clobber over /dir2/a.txt. Thanks, Bill
Re: how to enable mouse in vim of cygwin
On 4/18/07, sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I know that both vim and gvim can jump from one window to another by clicking the mouse, also many other easy facilities. Here I am using cygwin under XP and my gvim works fine with mouse, but the vim doesn't in both cmd.ext environment and xterm cases. You need to set ':set mouse=all'. Then your vim-in-xterm will reacti to the mouse. The cmd box is different case, I beleive that mouse events are not passed to vim in cmd box. Yakov
Re: wish: show search progress on slow searches
On 4/30/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [This is development, removed the Vim maillist] Yakov Lerner wrote: On 4/29/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/29/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: Wish: when search is slow, show the progress line number every second on the bottom line (like, 12345 of 9). What is slow? To my taste, when something takes longer than 1-2 sec, I'd prefer some visual feedback on the progress. Checking if the second passed will make the search even slower. Checking time is quite slow on some systems (the check for CTRL-C suffers from this). Checking for time every several hundred (N) lines will probably not slow the search perceptibly. N can be configurable, a parameter. Some value between 10 and 1000 will probaby be reasonable. I think it's possibe to check for time, which searching, not too often and not too seldom, even without user-defined parameter. Adaptive algorithm with two counters will find the right rate or time-checking: - as we start search, we check time every 50 lines (N=50 is initial value of N). We maintain counter M. M is how many times we called time() between the seconds changed. M is checked and reset every second. M is checked as folllows: - If M is too high (M10), then we adjust N by increasing it. If M is too low(M10), then we adjust N by decreasing it. Ideally, we want to check time() ~10 times per second. (overhead of 10 calls to time() per second cannot he high, right ?) - if search progresses for several seconds, then N quickly converges to the ideal value (~10 checks/sec). - we start every search with same value of N (say, 50). If search is slow, then N will quickly converge to the ideal value for this regex, the value in which where time() is checked ~10 times per second. It will help for differences in speed for various patterns, but it won't help for lines differing in length. Quite a few patterns with wildcards depend on the line length a lot. It might work better to adjust to the delay caused by the time function. This varies greatly between systems. When it's fast we can check the time often, when it's slow it delays the search more and should be called less often. How about using SIGALRM when search is progressing, every second ? SIGALRM handler would store time() into global var (and reload alarm(1)). The search would check the global var for changes, every line. It is cheap to check global integer (time_t) var, no ? Yakov
Re: determining if buffer is modified.. etc
On 4/30/07, Normandie Azucena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Yakov Lerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:53 PM To: Normandie Azucena Cc: vim@vim.org Subject: Re: determining if buffer is modified.. etc On 4/30/07, Normandie Azucena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all! I need to know if a certain buffer is modified. how can I do this? if modified | echo buffer is modified | endif also can I disable the prompt that says that buffer or file has changed and gives me an option to load the new file or not? because I want vim to automatically load changed files at certain times(i.e. when I invoke a certain function that automatically change the contents of the files) Add exclamation mark to the command Yakov hi yakov! tnx for the info. however about my 2nd question, what I wanted to know is this scenario I have a file lets say myfile. its currently open to a buffer. but then I input this file to a perl script then save the results what vim will do is prompt me that my file changed and make me choose to load it or not (because it is open in a buffer). This scenario is what I don't want to happen because obviously it was really my intention to change the file in the first place. can I disable this prompt somehow? :set autoread Yakov
Re: wish: show search progress on slow searches
On 4/29/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/29/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: Wish: when search is slow, show the progress line number every second on the bottom line (like, 12345 of 9). What is slow? To my taste, when something takes longer than 1-2 sec, I'd prefer some visual feedback on the progress. Checking if the second passed will make the search even slower. Checking time is quite slow on some systems (the check for CTRL-C suffers from this). Checking for time every several hundred (N) lines will probably not slow the search perceptibly. N can be configurable, a parameter. Some value between 10 and 1000 will probaby be reasonable. Yakov I think it's possibe to check for time, which searching, not too often and not too seldom, even without user-defined parameter. Adaptive algorithm with two counters will find the right rate or time-checking: - as we start search, we check time every 50 lines (N=50 is initial value of N). We maintain counter M. M is how many times we called time() between the seconds changed. M is checked and reset every second. M is checked as folllows: - If M is too high (M10), then we adjust N by increasing it. If M is too low(M10), then we adjust N by decreasing it. Ideally, we want to check time() ~10 times per second. (overhead of 10 calls to time() per second cannot he high, right ?) - if search progresses for several seconds, then N quickly converges to the ideal value (~10 checks/sec). - we start every search with same value of N (say, 50). If search is slow, then N will quickly converge to the ideal value for this regex, the value in which where time() is checked ~10 times per second. Yakov
Re: wish: show search progress on slow searches
On 4/29/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/29/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: Wish: when search is slow, show the progress line number every second on the bottom line (like, 12345 of 9). What is slow? To my taste, when something takes longer than 1-2 sec, I'd prefer some visual feedback on the progress. Checking if the second passed will make the search even slower. Checking time is quite slow on some systems (the check for CTRL-C suffers from this). Checking for time every several hundred (N) lines will probably not slow the search perceptibly. N can be configurable, a parameter. Some value between 10 and 1000 will probaby be reasonable. Yakov I think it's possibe to check for time, which searching, not too often and not too seldom, even without user-defined parameter. Adaptive algorithm with two counters will find the right rate or time-checking: - as we start search, we check time every 50 lines (N=50 is initial value of N). We maintain counter M. M is how many times we called time() between the seconds changed. M is checked and reset every second. M is checked as folllows: - If M is too high (M10), then we adjust N by increasing it. If M is too low(M10), then we adjust N by decreasing it. Ideally, we want to check time() ~10 times per second. (overhead of 10 calls to time() per second cannot he high, right ?) - if search progresses for several seconds, then N quickly converges to the ideal value (~10 checks/sec). - we start every search with same value of N (say, 50). If search is slow, then N will quickly converge to the ideal value for this regex, the value in which where time() is checked ~10 times per second. Yakov
Re: wish: show search progress on slow searches
On 4/29/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: Wish: when search is slow, show the progress line number every second on the bottom line (like, 12345 of 9). What is slow? To my taste, when something takes longer than 1-2 sec, I'd prefer some visual feedback on the progress. Checking if the second passed will make the search even slower. Checking time is quite slow on some systems (the check for CTRL-C suffers from this). Checking for time every several hundred (N) lines will probably not slow the search perceptibly. N can be configurable, a parameter. Some value between 10 and 1000 will probaby be reasonable. Yakov
moving virual rectange about in virtualedit mode
I 'set ve=all' and selected a rectangle with Ctrl-V. How can I move this rectangle up/down left/right with arrows ? Thanks Yakov
Re: wish: show search progress on slow searches
On 4/29/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: Wish: when search is slow, show the progress line number every second on the bottom line (like, 12345 of 9). What is slow? To my taste, when something takes longer than 1-2 sec, I'd prefer some visual feedback on the progress. Checking if the second passed will make the search even slower. Checking time is quite slow on some systems (the check for CTRL-C suffers from this). Checking for time every several hundred (N) lines will probably not slow the search perceptibly. N can be configurable, a parameter. Some value between 10 and 1000 will probaby be reasonable. Yakov
Re: moving virual rectange about in virtualedit mode
On 4/30/07, Sartak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/29/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 'set ve=all' and selected a rectangle with Ctrl-V. How can I move this rectangle up/down left/right with arrows ? Thanks Yakov I assume you're asking how you can move the other sides of a visual block. When you're using visual block you usually have control of only one corner (southwest for me most of the time, but it could be any of the four). You can use the o and O commands to start moving different corners. Note that the o command also works in the other two visual modes, and so is very handy. No, I meant move as in, erase in old place and paint in new place. Yakov
Re: Backup - always
On 4/30/07, Fredrik Gustafsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a way to always backup certain filetypes. The backup and writebackup options only works if the file exist. I need a backup even if I create a new file (i.e. the new file should be saved at two locations). how do I do that? Try using the autocommand: au BufWrite *.abc,*.def :exe :w! /my/other/dir/.expand(%:t) (untested). Alternatively, you can try the 'savevers' plugin: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php Yakov
Re: vim 7.1?
The svn tree has all patches already inside, it does not matter how many patches are there. You just checkout and build. It's not that you need to download baseline and then 222 patches, no. Yakov On 4/27/07, Jonathan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the insane number of patches collecting against 7.0, and presumably the new features accumulating in the devel tree, is anyone thinking about when a 7.1 release might be made? -smithj
change background for range of lines
Is is possible to change background for range of lines without suppressing the other syntax highlighting in the range ? (I tried something simpler and less useful - match by range of lines (:match Search /\%123l\_.*\%999l/ which suppresses highlighting in the region) but even this did not work when the range if bigger than 1-2 screens (this is by design as Bram explained) Yakov
Re: Mapping to c-q and c-s doesn't work
On 4/25/07, Mike Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm running vim in a console using gnome-terminal. I put these mappings in my .vimrc file: map c-q :mksession! ~/.vim/.session cr map c-s :source ~/.vim/.session cr Pressing those buttons (CTRL+Q or CTRL+S) doesn't work. When I map as below instead: map F9 :mksession! ~/.vim/.session cr map F10 :source ~/.vim/.session cr the commands work. What is causing this behavior? Is it the terminal capturing the CTRL+Q and CTRL+S keystrokes before they reach VIM? Yes. You can try kde konsole. In konsole, ^Q and ^S and not treated specially by default. You can remap them in vim. Your terminal emulator, if it has menus, then the option that affects ^Q and ^S will be named something like flow control or XON/XOFF. Yakov
Re: replace VimScript (was: wish: allow a: in the function def)
On 4/24/07, Ilya Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Lee wrote: [snip] Counterwish #2: Dump VimScript and replace it with EMCAScript (maybe using SpiderMonkey) so that people don't need to learn a new language As a sarcastic joke, this sounds average. But seriously, vim having supprt for embedded perl,python,ruby, tcl and scheme interpreters, it is realistically to expect javascript interpreter added one day. Yakov
Re: replace VimScript (was: wish: allow a: in the function def)
On 4/24/07, Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 05:49:19PM +0200, Nikolai Weibull wrote: On 4/24/07, Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 10:49:49AM +0300, Ilya Sher wrote: Robert Lee wrote: [snip] Counterwish #2: Dump VimScript and replace it with EMCAScript (maybe using SpiderMonkey) so that people don't need to learn a new language If I understand you correctly, you assume that ECMAScript is the most popular language among the people that wish to customize VIM. How do you know the assumption is right? [snip] Actually, I like the proposal for two entirely different reasons: 1) the language specification comes from an international standards body So? In what way does this make it a good language? In what way does this make it a good language to extend Vim with? Anyone can write a standard. It doesn't mean that it's good or what is being standardized will be, either. Where did anyone say that standardization made it a better language than any other? Most of what makes it a good language has been there since the earliest JavaScript implementations. Many of the issues that have made it difficult to work with in the past have been hammered out during standardization or were API issues rather than language issues. But even that isn't what standardization buys you. The main advantage is interoperability. If someone writes some excellent library for use in some Flash app, but is of use in some other environment that provides ECMAScript extension, you can just copy it over and use it. I'm capable of porting an algorithm in one language I know to another language I know, but that's a bit more work than copy and paste. 2) there are lots of people working on efficient implementations, at least two of which are open source (SpiderMonkey and Adobe's Tamarin, though there seem to be some plans to convert SpiderMonkey to use Tamarin) SpiderMonkey is a terribly inefficient implementation, which is why Tamarin will be used in future versions of Gecko. And I wouldn't say that efficiency is the primary concern of a language/runtime engine to use for Vim. I strongly disagree with that statement. Efficiency is certainly important for an editor. I don't want to sit and twiddle my thumbs while vim starts up or executes hooks on file read, nor do I want it to suck up a big chunk of memory while it's going about its business. In fact, what I'm asking it to do currently rarely takes much time, but it could be really nice to ask it to do a lot more and still not pay a huge time or memory penalty. Efficiency is definitely important. It is looking more and more like the world of scripting languages for application extension (as opposed to standalone scripting languages) is converging on ECMAScript and Lua, particularly for interactive apps. I'm sure Microsoft agrees with this sentiment. What does Microsoft have to do with anything? There's a lot to be said for following a path that leads to interoperability and code reuse. Yeah, follow-the-leader is everyone's favorite game. And just look at all the libraries for both these languages. Application extension may sometimes be restricted to the domain of the actual application, but having an abundance of libraries certainly opens up for more interesting possibilities. Vim already has Perl, Python, and Ruby interpreters for application extension, assuming you build it with the appropriate options. Any library available for any of these languages can be made available to the Vim runtime with minimal hassle. Are there lots of VimScript libraries that are outside the application domain? So how does replacing VimScript with ECMAScript prevent these interesting possibilities? Cool down. vimscript replacing with EcmaScript is not on the horizon, is not on the agenda, not going to happen. The only alternative to vimscript that Bram once contemplated was python, and it was decisively voted down by feature voting. (Python was considered at one point by Bram because Python is Bram's favourite language.) So do not worry, replacement of vimscript by the favourite language of some vim's random user is not going to happen. Yakov
Re: coredump with match by lines-range (7.0.222); highlighting is not painted fully.
On 4/24/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multi-line matches are not always displayed correctly. A match is searched for in the line where redrawing starts, which can be anywhere. Your pattern only matches when redrawing starts at or before line 4078. Maybe we need a pattern that matches at line =N and at line =N then ? (say \%123l \%123l, in addition to ==N, the \%123l). Or is there other way to highlight block of lines ? Thanks
Re: wish: collaboration of N vim instances editing same file
On 4/23/07, Gene Kwiecinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of any valid reason why one lonely user - me for instance - would want to fire up several instances of vim to edit the same file. It can be. For example, in LNX user can edit file in text console, then switch to X11 and then start editor again to edit the same file, forgetting that other instance of VIM already launched. I in this case just do killall vim(or killall -9 vim, depending on mood). I'd be seriously uncomfortable with that as a feature. Imagine absentmindedly editing the same file 2x or more. Make some changes in one instance, make different changes in another instance, save/quit the first, save/quit the second, trash all the edits made in the first instance. In the orininal post, I wrote about the feature where two+ instances of vim show and merge changes made by other instances. With such collaboration enabled, the 2nd instance would show and merge changes made by 1st instance, and 1st instance would absorb, merge and show changes made by 2nd instance. In this scenario, loss of edits does not happen. So I don't underastand why you say you are against it if it avoids exactly what you cited as unwanted ? Yakov Lerner wrote -- Ability of N instances of vim to absorb, merge and show changes to the same file made by other running vim instances Yakov
Re: turning arbitrary word change into substitution
On 4/22/07, Tim Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to do the following, or maybe some plugin already exist. If not, how would I script it. Let's say I have some long identifier EXPECTED_GCONFIG scattered around the file. I put cursor after _ and change it to EXPECTED_CONTENTS somehow, maybe char-by-char, not necessarily in one optimal op. Now I'd like to auto-convert the last word change into s/// command, automatically, so I can use to change remaining occurencies. How could I script such thing ? I'm not sure there's an easy way to do this automatically, as you have to be able to identify *when* you've begun the above process, what portion you want to change, and when you're done changing. I occasionally have need to do something similar, so here's what I do (whether it's helpful or not... ;-) 1) search for an instance of my target by using #/* :help * :help # 2) change one of them to my desired result (in as many operations as you need) 3) without moving the cursor off the new results, create a s// command using those two pieces: :%s/^R//^R^W/g where ^R/ is control+R followed by a slash, and ^R^W is control+R followed by control+W. This composes the command by using the previous search item (stored in the / register, and handily includes the \...\ thanks to the */# searching) and the word currently under the cursor. :help c_CTRL-R :help c_CTRL-R_CTRL-W It's not exactly what you describe, but close enough that I find it easy to do in situations like what you describe. Nice. This is helpful. Thanks Yakov
search vs closed folds
When I search and I have closed folds, vim will automatically open the closed fold if next match is in the closed fold. Is there setting to disable this auto-opening ? Not to open the closed fold when searching ? Yakov
Re: turning arbitrary word change into substitution
On 4/23/07, Arun Easi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about the U operation to get the original word and redo U to get back to the current. This will mapp F3, modify according to your needs (add \ and \ etc) nn F3 UyiwU:%s/c-r/c-rc-w/g OR to save the :s for subsequent use, nn F3 UyiwU:.s/c-r/c-rc-w/ecr Thanks, this sounds very good. Yakov On Sun, 22 Apr 2007, Yakov Lerner wrote: Is it possible to do the following, or maybe some plugin already exist. If not, how would I script it. Let's say I have some long identifier EXPECTED_GCONFIG scattered around the file. I put cursor after _ and change it to EXPECTED_CONTENTS somehow, maybe char-by-char, not necessarily in one optimal op. Now I'd like to auto-convert the last word change into s/// command, automatically, so I can use to change remaining occurencies. How could I script such thing ? Thanks Yakov
Re: how to determine what filetype vim is using
On 4/24/07, Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, I've finally found the answer to the indenting problems I was having. I found that the indenting I was used to is present if I start cindent in my .vimrc file. However, now I've got a problem. When I have the starting for all files, when I edit TCL scripts, the indenting behavior is not correct. How do set up the .vimrc file to key off of the currently detected file type and disable the cindent option? Try au FIleType tcl set nocindent , that assuming your filetype is spelled 'tcl'. To check how exactly filetype is spelled: :e xxx.tcl :set filetype? Yakov
Re: Describe-key ?
On 4/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is there anything like describe-key (EMacs)in vim ? In EMacs vou can submit this command, press a combination of keys and EMacs will tel you the naming convention of this key (for example Meta-p) and its current bindings of that combination of keys. Anything like that in vim ? For builtin commands, :help Keys For user-remapped keys, :map Keys Vim is multimode, so you have several meanings for each control-key. (normal mode, insert, mode, commandline mode, etc). Every mode for every command is documented in the help. You need to learn the help navigation by tags and completion. If you have these settings 'set wildmode=list:longest wildmenu', and you type :help ^Xtab (that's ':','h',space,'^','X,Tab) you'll commands involving Ctrl-X in all modes. You need to know how to find meaning for keys X for every mode in the help. Help uses uniform prefixes for that. Yakov
Re: Troubles configuring vim (multi-questions)
On 4/13/07, OnionKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't find anything about command-mode. How is it different from normal mode? Dont confuse 'commandline mode' with 'command mode'. 'comand mode' is same as 'normal mode', they are synonyms [1]. 'commandline mode' is a mode which you enter with : from normal mode. 'commandline mode' is also the mode in which scripts are executed. See more at ':hep vim-modes' [1] :help normal-mode says: *Normal* *Normal-mode* *command-mode* Normal mode In Normal mode you can enter all the normal editor commands. If you start the editor you are in this mode (unless you have set the 'insertmode' option, see below). This is also known as command mode. Yakov And yes, vi has the 7th mode. It's called the 'confusion mode'. It is a mode in which the beginner user of vi mostly finds himself during his first weeks/months/years of using vi.
wish: collaboration of N vim instances editing same file
Hello Bram, Is it possible to add this item to the vim voting list ?: collaboration of N vim instances editing same file -- Ability of N instances of vim to absorb, merge and show changes to the same file made by other running vim instances [ either by reading other vim's swapfiles, or somehow else ] ? Can this be added to SOC ? Yakov
Re: remote-silent and stdin
On 4/10/07, Mahesh Sivasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to do something to the effect of ls | gvim - --remote-client. or ls | gvim --remote-client - However, vi sees the - as a file name and opens a new filename. Is there way to open the stdin output on a gvim server? Do some of these do what you want : gvim --remote `ls` gvim --remote $(ls) gvim --remote-silent `ls` gvim --remote-silent $(ls) ? ... --remote-client Must be a typo. There is --remote and --remote-silent. There is no --remote-client. Yakov
wish: collaboration of N vim instances editing same file
Hello Bram, Is it possible to add this item to the vim voting list ?: collaboration of N vim instances editing same file -- Ability of N instances of vim to absorb, merge and show changes to the same file made by other running vim instances [ either by reading other vim's swapfiles, or somehow else ] ? Can this be added to SOC ? Yakov
Re: Determining whether a window used :lcd
On 4/11/07, Bob Hiestand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to determine whether a particular window has its path set with :lcd? I think vi has no direct simple way to determine this. I needed this once in of my script. I ended with some rude simplification/workaround, lackng the direct simple solution. I don't know your specific case, but you might find simlpistic workaround. One weird attempt to determine this would be to (I did not do it): (1) get getcwd() in the window in quiestion (2) create temp new window with :new (3) get getcwd() in the new temp window (4) compare cwd from step (3) against cwd from step(1) (5) :bw the temp window This has lots of drawcacks: - I am not sure this sequence works in the presence of :acd thought. - I am not sure this sequence works at all, but I can't think of other method either. - This sequence won't detect one subtle case: case the :lcd is set, but is set to directory X where X is same as current directory. (This case behaves differently that case without :lcd, but this difference might not matter to you). - Overly complicated. Maybe vim needs new functions getlcwd(), hetgcwd(), or additional 2nd param to getcwd() to return global/local dir. Yakov
Re: script boolean operators
On 4/10/07, Horvath Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, it's really straightforward, but where is it in the manual? http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_41.html - here I can not find. Notice that usr_41.html is not all-covering. It is not a *reference*. It is only a manual(tutorial). Details which do not appear in tutotial (usr_NN) vimdocs are found in the *reference* pages. You find *reference* pages by several methods: - by help tags completion: :help expressionTab - get familiar with list of reference vimdocs: :cd $VIMRUNTIME/doc :!ls - by / search within vimdoc - by bruteforce search through all vimdocs: :helpgrep The relevant reference doc in this case is ':help eval' -- it covers everything about expression evaluation. Specificallyabout and ||: You can find and || under: :help expression-syntax then 5 lines below you have: |expr2|.expr3 || expr3 logical OR |expr3|.expr4 expr4 logical AND Additionally, you can notice that vim expression syntax is rather C-like. This explains spelling of many C ops (==, , ||, ). Yakov
Re: Vim freezes system ?!
On 4/10/07, A.J.Mechelynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zdenek Sekera wrote: -Original Message- From: A.J.Mechelynck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2007 09:10 To: Zdenek Sekera Cc: Yakov Lerner; vim@vim.org; Meino Christian Cramer; Bram Moolenaar Subject: Re: Vim freezes system ?! Zdenek Sekera wrote: [...] Just to add more to the confusion, on my box (RedHat Enterprise Linux, 512Mb Ram) I have maxmapdepth=1000 maxmempattern=1000 maxmem=257676 maxmemtot=257676 Which tells me the last two can hardly be in kb and all over I don't understand what really they mean. ---Zdenek According to the help, they _are_ in KB and can reach up to two million (i.e., 2 gig). I sure wonder according to what Vim sets themat startup. Why do you think they can't be in KB? The above would mean slightly over 256 meg, which sounds reasonable for a 512MB box (more reasonable at least, than the 249 K which I see). Arrgh, I guess the batteries in my mental calculator are flat after Easter vac :-). But what do these numbers really mean? You are right that mine look more acceptable than yours. Yours are really strange. ---Zdenek Maybe there has been an arithmetic wraparound in my case? I have 2 gig of RAM installed, which is slightly /more/ than 2 million KB. I tried it on the machine with 8GB of RAM. The 'mmt' values are 1024. By the vimhelp, these values are in KB, as Tony said. Another strange thing is: these low values do not seem to have any effect on vim rmemory usage. Nor when they are correct (like 643272 on 1.3 G ram machine), neither when they are suspicously low (like 1024 on 8G ram machine). -- Yakov look, these numbers are suspicously low Lerner
Re: use variable in substitute
On 4/10/07, Horvath Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, One question again for me. Can I use variable in pattern of substitute() in script? let row = getline(j) 'trallala' let rownext = getline(j+1) 'bimbam' let row = substitute(row, ^\\\(.*\\\)$, \\1 rownext, g) let row = substitute(row, ^\\\(.*\\\)$, \\1 . rownext, g) Yakov
Re: syntax/man.vim: manSubHeading is a bit too general?
On 4/9/07, Nikolai Weibull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The manSubHeading is defined as
syn match manSubHeading ^\s\{3\}[a-z][a-z ]*[a-z]$
This will, however, match more lines than I think is intended. It
will, for example, match the line
\t returns are what are recorded and compared with the data git keeps
where \t is a horizontal tabulation.
I never saw tabs in the formatted manpages. Did you ever
see tabs in the formatted manpages ? I think it contains only spaces.
Yakov
Re: how to color the word
On 4/7/07, flyfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i see the help file of vim and some words in the text is colored, for example, when i read the develop.txt help file, some words like Note, design-goal are colored with yellow or pink, how could it be done? i also want to color some keywords in my files, how to do? :help :match :help syntax Yakov
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
On 4/6/07, Taylor Venable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:22:43 -0400 Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/4/07, wangxu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? I heard some people use Tab as a substitute for Esc. Weird. But it's easier to do in platform-independent way. Yakov If Wikipedia is correct in that vi was originally written on ADM-3A terminals (I think I also read that on here at one time as well) and that this particular terminal had it's escape key where nearly all modern keyboards have a tab key, it kinda makes sense. Here's the page, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi Indeed. And it didn't have tab key, did it ? I use the mini-keyboard (measures 29x11cm). I love it becaise everything is nearby. Fingers need to traver less. And takes less space on the crammed desktop :-) Another nice relevant link is this keyboard: http://www.engadget.com/tag/optimus optimis keyboard where every key is a [color] display Yakov
Re: Vim freezes system ?!
On 4/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I did th3 follwing: With a program, which generates random numbers in different formats, I created a file, which consists of _one_ line of 2097152 characters (0-9,A-F). To split the line into lines of 72 characters each, I started vim and let it read the file. I postioned the cursor at position 0 and entered the following in normal mode: qq72rightireturnesc0q Then I did a [EMAIL PROTECTED] After only 10 or 15 (guessed) executions of the macro the system freezes while constantly swapping (?) and became unuseable and did no longer respond. Even the mouse pointer was nearly unmoveable... After heavily and constantly trying I managed to kill the X-session and to 'killall -9 vim' from the console to get back my computer. Hello Meino the vim killer Cramer, I tried your scenario. You need to add 'set ul=-1' to disable undoes, and 'set lz' to disable excess redraws. Even then, vim goes rather slow at this task. Indeed, vim grows to 1000MB vm/rss size size in matter of one minute without ul=-1 (, and growing very fast. ) To make editing of 2MB-long line manageable, I did: vim -u NONE file :set ul=-1 : disable undos :set lz NOte that 2MB is already large file. You are now in the area where you want take large file precautions wrt to performance. This makes vim stay stable in memory size (although still rather large, 632mb). But it's still slow at splitting 2mb-long lines. It took vim ~4 minutes to split ~100 lines. So, for a whole 2mb data, it will take vim about 2 hours. You better try this kind of task with perl or C. Or just add sensible newlines when generating your data. Yakov BTW your disk size is irrelevant. What is relevant is your RAM size and swap size.
Re: Vim freezes system ?!
On 4/6/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... It took vim ~4 minutes to split ~100 lines. Typo here. This should have been: It took vim ~4 minutes to split ~1000 lines.
Re: Vim freezes system ?!
On 4/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Yakov the vim healer Lerner :) memory size is 2GB Dual channel RAM, swap is 1G... For me it is not a problem to fail with one task (splitting a long line)...there are always better solutions to discover on UNIX systems... :)) The problem I see is, that it is that easy to stop a system by submitting the wrong command to a text editor... Aha, so you didn't try to edit a file. You tried to find a scenario to push vim beyond it's and your system's memory capacities. OK, you succeeded. Yakov
Re: Silly Question
Yakov (without quotes) inserts kov after the 1st char. Now, who won ?
Re: Vim freezes system ?!
On 4/6/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I did th3 follwing: With a program, which generates random numbers in different formats, I created a file, which consists of _one_ line of 2097152 characters (0-9,A-F). To split the line into lines of 72 characters each, I started vim and let it read the file. I postioned the cursor at position 0 and entered the following in normal mode: qq72rightireturnesc0q Then I did a [EMAIL PROTECTED] After only 10 or 15 (guessed) executions of the macro the system freezes while constantly swapping (?) and became unuseable and did no longer respond. Even the mouse pointer was nearly unmoveable... After heavily and constantly trying I managed to kill the X-session and to 'killall -9 vim' from the console to get back my computer. Hello Meino the vim killer Cramer, I tried your scenario. You need to add 'set ul=-1' to disable undoes, and 'set lz' to disable excess redraws. Even then, vim goes rather slow at this task. Indeed, vim grows to 1000MB vm/rss size size in matter of one minute without ul=-1 (, and growing very fast. ) The thing I find strange here is that values of 'maxmem', 'maxmemtot' were: :set mm? mmt? maxmem=643272 maxmemtot=643272 , yet vim grew past x2.5 times that limits (with default 'ul') without messages. Is this expected behaviour ? Yakov
wish: show search progress on slow searches
Wish: when search is slow, show the progress line number every second on the bottom line (like, 12345 of 9). Maybe this can be done with plugin, I'm not sure. Maybe simply status line can be refreshed once in a second, temporarily setting line number to the current search position. Some regexes take half minute to several minutes time on multimegabyte file. It would be nice to see the progress numbers onscreen. Thanks Yakov
Re: case of very slow regex search
On 4/3/07, Peter Hodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use sometimes the regex that finds paragraphs
containing given words w1,w2,... in any order ( I define paragraph
as separated by lines, \n\n).
I use the pattern like this: (two-word example, w1 and w2, but easily
expandable for N words):
/\c\(.\|.\n\)*\w1\\\(.\|.\n\)*\w2\
(and I set :set maxmempattern=2 )
This works. But search time is unbelievably slow on big files.
My question is; is there a rewrite of this regex that works faster.
To see the testcase how of how slow this works:
1. wget http://www.vmunix.com/~gabor/c/draft.html
# this is ~1.3 MB file.
2. vim draft.html
3. /\c\(.\|.\n\)*\w1\\\(.\|.\n\)*\w2\
Try this pattern:
/\c\n\zs\%(\%(.\|.\n\)\{-}\international\\\%(.\|.\n\)\{-}\although\\)
It has the \n at the start so it will match at most once per line and uses \{-}
instead of * to prevent backtracking. That search ends in 30 seconds (on a Dual
1.8ghz G5). You won't need to tweak maxmempattern either.
Thanks Peter,
This works great.
Yakov
Re: highlighting errors
On 4/4/07, Lionel Flandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to find the command that would find the next error in a file.
For instance the following code contains a typo, how can one find it ?
-
#include stdio.h
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
printf(Hello world!\n);
] // - Here it is :-), vim detects it and makes it red
return 0;
}
-
This seems to be a recurring request. In the past, I
I posted to this list a vimscript function that does it. I made it into
small plugin:
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1851
SearchSyntaxError : search for the next syntax error detected
by the vim highlighting mechanism
The usage is very simple:
command :ERR searhes for the next syntax error, or Ctrl-KCtrl-E
That's it.
Yakov
Re: my map only works sometimes
On 4/4/07, ben lieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following map is used to do add span tags to highlighted text in-line. My problem is that it only works sometimes, and I don't know why. :map ,bb cCRCRESCkpIspanESCA/spanESCkJJ The map works by cutting the highlighted text, putting it on its own line, adding the tag to the front and the end of the line, and then joining the lines. Any thoughts on why this only works sometimes? I can't isolate what conditions bring it about. Can be several things. 1. To cancel possible influence of keyboard timeouts, map the same rhs to the single-key combination -- like F10. When ,bb dopesn't work, try f10. If f10 works, it's related to timeouts. 2. Change to vnoremap instead of map. This cancels possibble effects or remapping of some chars in the rhs. I think you want to use it in the visual mode, right ? Then use vnoremap. 3. When it doesn';t work, what exactly happens ? Is it totally ignored, or works half-way ? 4. When it doesn't work, do ':map ,bb' to check whether it's still defined and is rhs correct. Yakov
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
On 4/4/07, wangxu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? I heard some people use Tab as a substitute for Esc. Weird. But it's easier to do in platform-independent way. Yakov
Re: Vim memory leak
On 4/3/07, Max Dyckhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My instance of vim (gvim on Windows) appears to have a memory leak, which makes me sad. Is this a common thing for everyone, or is there something in my setup which might be causing it? It's pretty serious. When I start gvim and load my standard session, it will take up about 86MB of RAM. This includes dozens of buffers, splits, tabs and syntax, so I'm not really worried. After about four hours it will be up to more like 120MB, and after a couple of days it will be 200MB+. Loading a fresh copy of gvim with all the plugins and my .vimrc, there are various actions I can see that increase the memory usage as reported by the Windows Task Manager. I have no idea on the validity of the Task Manager, but it's all I have on Windows. :sp on a new buffer causes a raise of 4-8K. :q on a split causes a raise of 4-8K. Switching to/from gvim causes a small increase, typically 4-8K for a few switches. Searching (with *) for a word in a .c file (with syntax highlighting) causes it to increase. If you hold down * then you can see the memory usage rocket up. Basically, pretty much any action. Any ideas? Will I just have to live with it and restart my vim session every couple of days? Did you try to set the 'maxmemtot' option ? (:help 'maxmemtot') Does memory drop down if you :bw all buffers ? If you could simulate thousands of user actions using ClientServer using some action-simulating script and have vim grow past 400-500 mb that would be demonstration. It is not easy to distinguish necessary grow from memory leak. But my firefox will predictably grow above 200mb in just couple of days in th air. And it does not have memory leak for all I know. But if you can cause it grow indefinitely by opening and closing some page, that would establish a memory leak. Maybe you simply need to buy anoth 1GB of RAM ? This sharply reduces feelings from another 200gb process :-) Yakov
Re: my map only works sometimes
On 4/4/07, ben lieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: On 4/4/07, ben lieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following map is used to do add span tags to highlighted text in-line. My problem is that it only works sometimes, and I don't know why. :map ,bb cCRCRESCkpIspanESCA/spanESCkJJ The map works by cutting the highlighted text, putting it on its own line, adding the tag to the front and the end of the line, and then joining the lines. Any thoughts on why this only works sometimes? I can't isolate what conditions bring it about. Can be several things. 1. To cancel possible influence of keyboard timeouts, map the same rhs to the single-key combination -- like F10. When ,bb dopesn't work, try f10. If f10 works, it's related to timeouts. 2. Change to vnoremap instead of map. This cancels possibble effects or remapping of some chars in the rhs. I think you want to use it in the visual mode, right ? Then use vnoremap. 3. When it doesn';t work, what exactly happens ? Is it totally ignored, or works half-way ? 4. When it doesn't work, do ':map ,bb' to check whether it's still defined and is rhs correct. Yakov When it doesn't work it, it re-highlights the first half of the sentence, and then does nothing. When it doesn't work, what does ':map ,,b' display ? Yakov
Re: my map only works sometimes
On 4/4/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/4/07, ben lieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yakov Lerner wrote: On 4/4/07, ben lieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following map is used to do add span tags to highlighted text in-line. My problem is that it only works sometimes, and I don't know why. :map ,bb cCRCRESCkpIspanESCA/spanESCkJJ The map works by cutting the highlighted text, putting it on its own line, adding the tag to the front and the end of the line, and then joining the lines. Any thoughts on why this only works sometimes? I can't isolate what conditions bring it about. Can be several things. 1. To cancel possible influence of keyboard timeouts, map the same rhs to the single-key combination -- like F10. When ,bb dopesn't work, try f10. If f10 works, it's related to timeouts. 2. Change to vnoremap instead of map. This cancels possibble effects or remapping of some chars in the rhs. I think you want to use it in the visual mode, right ? Then use vnoremap. 3. When it doesn';t work, what exactly happens ? Is it totally ignored, or works half-way ? 4. When it doesn't work, do ':map ,bb' to check whether it's still defined and is rhs correct. Yakov When it doesn't work it, it re-highlights the first half of the sentence, and then does nothing. When it doesn't work, what does ':map ,,b' display ? That should have been 'what does ':map ,bb' say ?' Yakov
Re: Vim memory leak
On 4/4/07, Max Dyckhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My instance of vim (gvim on Windows) appears to have a memory leak, which makes me sad. Is this a common thing for everyone, or is there something in my setup which might be causing it? It's pretty serious. When I start gvim and load my standard session, it will take up about 86MB of RAM. This includes dozens of buffers, splits, tabs and syntax, so I'm not really worried. After about four hours it will be up to more like 120MB, and after a couple of days it will be 200MB+. Loading a fresh copy of gvim with all the plugins and my .vimrc, there are various actions I can see that increase the memory usage as reported by the Windows Task Manager. I have no idea on the validity of the Task Manager, but it's all I have on Windows. :sp on a new buffer causes a raise of 4-8K. :q on a split causes a raise of 4-8K. Switching to/from gvim causes a small increase, typically 4-8K for a few switches. Searching (with *) for a word in a .c file (with syntax highlighting) causes it to increase. If you hold down * then you can see the memory usage rocket up. Basically, pretty much any action. Any ideas? Will I just have to live with it and restart my vim session every couple of days? Max, I recalled two more things. Is your 'hidden' option set ? If it's set, vim *will* grow. With 'hidden' set, vim will keep in memory much data about old buffers. If you want to minimize memory, first thing you'd do is ':set nohidden'. To check your current state, 'set hidden?'. Second important thing is :bw. Even with ':set nohidden', vim will remember some data for every file it ever visited. To free this data completely, you need to :ls!, then :bw for every unused buffer. I think these two things will decrease vim's memory footprint (in case you had 'set hidden'). Yakov
Re: Vim memory leak
On 4/4/07, Max Dyckhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/4/07, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max, I recalled two more things. Is your 'hidden' option set ? If it's set, vim *will* grow. With 'hidden' set, vim will keep in memory much data about old buffers. If you want to minimize memory, first thing you'd do is ':set nohidden'. To check your current state, 'set hidden?'. Second important thing is :bw. Even with ':set nohidden', vim will remember some data for every file it ever visited. To free this data completely, you need to :ls!, then :bw for every unused buffer. I think these two things will decrease vim's memory footprint (in case you had 'set hidden'). Yakov I do have 'hidden' set, because I like to keep things around. :ls! shows that I currently have about 550 buffers open. ... we do have a large code base! Then get another 1-2 GB of RAM. It's not called memory leak when program allocates memory according to its functionality. Yakov
Re: Executing vimfunctions in background
On 4/3/07, Chuck Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in writing a plugin that could run in the background as I do some work in a buffer. For instance I have a function that appends a line to :copen. I would like to run it in the background continuously. How could I do this and continue working in the foreground? func myFunc() while 1 exe caddexpr expand(%) . : . line(.) . : . getline(.) exe sleep 5 endwhile endfunc how do I launch myFunc() to run continuously in the background? Chuhk, You probably want to give the 'au CursorMoved' autocommand a try for this task. Such tasks are normally solved with autocommands in vim. See: :help au :hep CursorMoved Good luck Yakov
Re: Executing vimfunctions in background
On 4/3/07, Chuck Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and no- I think this would work in certain situations, but of course what happens when I don't move the cursor? If you didn't move the cursor -- then why would you add the same position to the quicfix list again and again ? What's the point ? How is adding same position again and again (seems meaningless to me) better than reacting to cursor motion ? Yakov Actually, why isn't there a Timer autocommand? :) Feature request? -Original Message- From: Yakov Lerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:05 AM To: Chuck Mason Cc: vim@vim.org Subject: Re: Executing vimfunctions in background On 4/3/07, Chuck Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in writing a plugin that could run in the background as I do some work in a buffer. For instance I have a function that appends a line to :copen. I would like to run it in the background continuously. How could I do this and continue working in the foreground? func myFunc() while 1 exe caddexpr expand(%) . : . line(.) . : . getline(.) exe sleep 5 endwhile endfunc how do I launch myFunc() to run continuously in the background? Chuhk, You probably want to give the 'au CursorMoved' autocommand a try for this task. Such tasks are normally solved with autocommands in vim. See: :help au :hep CursorMoved Good luck Yakov
case of very slow regex search
I use sometimes the regex that finds paragraphs containing given words w1,w2,... in any order ( I define paragraph as separated by lines, \n\n). I use the pattern like this: (two-word example, w1 and w2, but easily expandable for N words): /\c\(.\|.\n\)*\w1\\\(.\|.\n\)*\w2\ (and I set :set maxmempattern=2 ) This works. But search time is unbelievably slow on big files. My question is; is there a rewrite of this regex that works faster. To see the testcase how of how slow this works: 1. wget http://www.vmunix.com/~gabor/c/draft.html # this is ~1.3 MB file. 2. vim draft.html 3. /\c\(.\|.\n\)*\w1\\\(.\|.\n\)*\w2\ This search never finishes for me. How can I rewrite the regex to search faster ? Yakov
Re: How to get the number of occurances of a search pattern ?
On 3/29/07, MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I do a search using / ,?,* or # how do I determine the number of matches of search pattern in the current buffer ? Try this plugin: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1682 Conveniently, it gives you number of matches for *every* search, and index of current match among all matches. Yakov
Re: building gvim on debian
Thanks Tim and Brian. The problem turned to be in our firewall, it suddenly started to block the bz2's that 'apt-get update'. 'apt-get build-dep vim-gtk' command helped. me. Regarding breezy and dapper -- together, yes, this is the sources.list Mepis comed with by default; they are both enabled together. Yakov
Re: autocmd bug?
On 3/26/07, Michael Wookey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the following in my .vimrc: filetype plugin indent on autocmd FileType c,h,cpp,hpp,cs setlocal cindent number cursorline If I have a new buffer and set the filetype as follows, everything works just fine: :set filetype=c However, if I have a new buffer and I set the filetype like this, the autocmd doesn't fire: :set filetype=c.doxygen This syntax is described in: :help 'filetype' Which line/paragraph ? Can you paste a n excerpt ? I don;t have it in my filetype.txt doc. I have vim7.188 and I don't have this functionality. About year ago I suggested such syntax -- 'set filetype=TYPE.SUBTYPE' -- but I don't think it was accepted. I think vim does not have this. Or is it some recent addition I'm not aware of ? Yakov
Re: Keep cursor fixed when scrolling with mouse
On 3/26/07, Some user [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm using gVim on Windows and like it so far. There is one minor annoyance: when I scroll with the mouse wheel (I'm trying to use only keyboard but it'll take me a lot of time trying to break habit of using mouse to scroll), the cursor moves with the screen. Is there a setting I can set that will allow the cursor to remain fixed at one position when scrolling with the mouse wheen/scrollbar? Are you talknig about the case (1) where you scroll by more that screenful of text , or (2) when you scroll just several lines ? If you mean (1) , then I think vim must keep cursor position on-screen, so this is impossible. But you can have some mapping that let you quickly jump to where the cursor was before scrolling (use marks). Yakov
building gvim on debian
When on FedoraCore, I can build gvim whenever I want and I can install needed dependencies (*-devel). But debian-derived distros are not nice to me ... on the debian-derived distro (mepis), trying to install libgtk for building gvim I got into trouble that I don't know how to solve: 'apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev' gives me errors [1]. Is libgtk2.0-dev is the correct package name that I need to build gvim ? Trying to install lesstif results in apt-get error, too. (I do 'apt-get update' often, but it results in errors [2]) What am I doing wrong ? Thanks Yakov one man's bug is another man's feature, -- Below [1] errors from 'apt-install libgtk2.0-dev' [2] errors from 'apt-get update' [3] contents of the sources.list -- [1] $ apt-install libgtk2.0-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.8.17-1ubuntu5) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-dev (= 2.8.5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libpango1.0-dev (= 1.10.0-2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libatk1.0-dev (= 1.6.1-2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libcairo2-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages --- [2] 'apt-get update' also produces errors: Get:1 http://apt.mepis.org mepis Release.gpg [191B] Hit http://apt.mepis.org mepis Release Hit http://apt.mepis.org mepis/main Packages Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B] Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release.gpg [189B] Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B] Get:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B] Get:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports Release.gpg [191B] Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release [50.9kB] Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages 99% [8 Packages bzip2 0] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] 25.6kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages 99% [Waiting for headers] 25.6kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages 99% [10 Packages bzip2 0] [Waiting for headers] 25.6kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages 99% [11 Packages bzip2 0] [Waiting for headers] 25.6kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/universe Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Packages Fetched 59.9kB in 8s (7326B/s) Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) Reading package lists...
Re: automatically save to filename
On 3/21/07, Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that you can set the interval to auto-save to the swap file but how do I automatically save to the named file itself every n seconds? Yes, you can use 'CursorHold' autocommand for that. The following (untested) is probaly an easy starting point: au CursorHold * :up! au CursorHoldI * up! Normally, file does not become modified without keyboard interaction, right ? So you do not really need the periodic saving when there was no keys pressed.I think CursorHold/CursorHoldI will serve nicely here, without need for periodic repeating. Yakov
