Re: switching from pay as you go to subscription on line 2?

2012-08-08 Thread Rob Harris
Try GiffGaff, there's no hassle and it is a good deal.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:31 PM
Subject: switching from pay as you go to subscription on line 2?


hello all,
does anyone know how one can switch from the pay as you go, to the 
subscription plan on the line 2 service?
according to one of the e-mails I got from them, one can do this, but there 
doesn't seem to be any info, either in the line 2 app, or in the e-mail that 
mentioned it, about how to actually do this.

Simon

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ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Logan
A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling me the 
trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone else had this 
issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..  

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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Olver
Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a couple months ago. 
Pay the money, it's a good app.


Fred Olver

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio


A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling me 
the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone else 
had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..


Sent from my iPhone

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bone conducting headphones

2012-08-08 Thread Musiclady
I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like? 
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.

Thanks.
Steph

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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Logan
But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay for it in app 
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a couple months ago. 
 Pay the money, it's a good app.
 
 Fred Olver
 
 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio
 
 
 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling me 
 the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone else 
 had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Olver
I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99 for it very 
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that rather than calling 
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app since you can do 
so much more with it.


Fred Olver

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From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay for it in app 
purchase?


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a couple months 
ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.


Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio


A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling 
me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone 
else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Medical dictionary and terminology

2012-08-08 Thread JoJo and Clinton
Yesterday I downloaded an app called medical dictionary and terminology by 
Kavapoint LLC.  It's $0.99 for a limited time.  VoiceOver seemed to work great 
until I tried searching for a word and using the table index.  If anyone has 
tried or heard of this app, I would be interested to know if it's something I'm 
doing wrong or if it's the app itself.  Here is the link to the description of 
it in the app store for what it's worth.

http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/medwords-medical-dictionary/id387631651?mt=8

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

JoJo

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Re: Posting your videos to FB?

2012-08-08 Thread Tom Rash
I did it so long ago, I don't actually remember.  I think I had to go to my 
profile though.
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  Subject: Re: Posting your videos to FB?


  Hi.  try and google for this.  that's the only way i was able to find it.


  hth 

  regards
  Maria and crew from australia
  email:
  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
  check out 
  www.powerradio104.us
  where we play lots of great music






  On 07/08/2012, at 7:01 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:


I need to know How to get the unique email address for posting to FB on the 
iDevice?  I checked the help,  it didn't show me the promised unique email 
address to send pictures to.



Any thoughts?

Thanks, RobH.



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audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Stone
Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

Cheers

Alex

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RE: bone conducting headphones

2012-08-08 Thread Richard Turner
I've not seen any blue tooth bone conduction headphones, but the folks that
make the AfterShokz headphones are talking about coming out with blue tooth
this year.
Personally, the AfterShokz headphones don't fit my head very well.  They are
probably a quarter to three-eighths  inches shorter than would be ideal for
me.  But for those for whom they fit, they have gotten good reviews.
The problem I see with their design is that if you have a small head, they
will be too big because they are not adjustable.

Richard


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Of Musiclady
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Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like? 
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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Re: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Michael Feir
Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
more than one file at a time.

On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

 Cheers

 Alex

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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Fanus
Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

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From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99 
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that 
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app 
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay 
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver 
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a 
 couple months
 ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

 Fred Olver

 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan 
 pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio


 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now 
 started telling
 me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for 
 $4.99.  Anyone
 else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase 
 ..

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: bone conducting headphones

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Durieux
hi, 

they will release new models in september i think. :)

kr



Mvg

-Peter Durieux



Op 8-aug.-2012 om 15:05 heeft Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com het 
volgende geschreven:

 I've not seen any blue tooth bone conduction headphones, but the folks that
 make the AfterShokz headphones are talking about coming out with blue tooth
 this year.
 Personally, the AfterShokz headphones don't fit my head very well.  They are
 probably a quarter to three-eighths  inches shorter than would be ideal for
 me.  But for those for whom they fit, they have gotten good reviews.
 The problem I see with their design is that if you have a small head, they
 will be too big because they are not adjustable.
 
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Musiclady
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:38 AM
 To: Viphone Email list
 Subject: bone conducting headphones
 
 I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like? 
 Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
 Thanks.
 Steph
 
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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Olver
Espn radio stands for Entertainment Sports Network. It is the largest 
network here in the states. The radio network sometimes has basketball and 
baseball games, mostly on the weekends and holidays. Mostly sports talk 
shows with interviews and editorializing. Also app includes possibilities of 
listening to sports stations across the country and their local hosts.


Fred Olver

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:


Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a
couple months
ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan
pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio



A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now
started telling
me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for
$4.99.  Anyone
else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase
..

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Stone
Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks it
has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
Cheers
Alex

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Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
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Subject: Re: audible app

Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
more than one file at a time.

On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

 Cheers

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RE: i phone apps.

2012-08-08 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez
Hello I hope everyone is well.  Are there any aps that are interesting as I
am looking for new different aps. Is there an ap that I can get for a virus
program or do I need one for the I phone? I also am looking for something
like Microsoft word to write notes and things on my I phone or any diary aps
as well.  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for
your time.

-Original Message-
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Of Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio

Espn radio stands for Entertainment Sports Network. It is the largest 
network here in the states. The radio network sometimes has basketball and 
baseball games, mostly on the weekends and holidays. Mostly sports talk 
shows with interviews and editorializing. Also app includes possibilities of

listening to sports stations across the country and their local hosts.

Fred Olver

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From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app. So why am I now have the pay
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a
 couple months
 ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

 Fred Olver

 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan
 pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio


 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now
 started telling
 me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for
 $4.99.  Anyone
 else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase
 ..

 Sent from my iPhone

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RE: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Richard Turner
It is the Radio side of the Sports network known as ESPN.
From the Frequently Asked Questions at ESPN Radio:
1) What does ESPN stand for?
It doesn't stand for anything. but the story is this. When ESPN started in
1979,
we were the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network (thus, ESPN).
However, the
full name was dropped in February 1985 when the company adopted a new
corporate name
--- ESPN, Inc - and a new logo. Based in Bristol, CT., ESPN is 80 percent
owned by
ABC, Inc., which is an indirect subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company. The
Hearst
Corporation holds the remaining 20 percent interest in ESPN.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio

Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99 
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that 
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app 
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app. So why am I now have the pay 
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver 
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a 
 couple months
 ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

 Fred Olver

 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan 
 pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio


 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now 
 started telling
 me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for 
 $4.99.  Anyone
 else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase 
 ..

 Sent from my iPhone

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RE: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Stone
Wayne, I hadn't tried it, but I have now, and it didn't make any difference.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Cheers
Alex

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Sent: 08 August 2012 14:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

Have you tried closing the app from the app switcher, and then
launching Audible again? This often cures issues I have when deleting
books or after I delete a book.

Wayne

On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
 download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks
it
 has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
 Cheers
 Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michael Feir
 Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app

 Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
 button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
 you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
 confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
 more than one file at a time.

 On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

 Cheers

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RE: i phone apps.

2012-08-08 Thread Richard Turner
The only app that edits Microsoft Word documents is Pages but it is
challenging to use with VoiceOver.
There are lots of text editing apps that create and edit .txt files.
Check out 
www.applevis.com

Two I like very much are PlainText and Meteor Notes.  PlainText is free,
Meteor Notes costs $2.99.
 They both sync with DropBox.

I'm not aware of any need for a virus program on the iPhone.

Richard


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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i phone apps.

Hello I hope everyone is well.  Are there any aps that are interesting as I
am looking for new different aps. Is there an ap that I can get for a virus
program or do I need one for the I phone? I also am looking for something
like Microsoft word to write notes and things on my I phone or any diary aps
as well.  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for
your time.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio

Espn radio stands for Entertainment Sports Network. It is the largest
network here in the states. The radio network sometimes has basketball and
baseball games, mostly on the weekends and holidays. Mostly sports talk
shows with interviews and editorializing. Also app includes possibilities of

listening to sports stations across the country and their local hosts.

Fred Olver

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From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app. So why am I now have the pay
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a
 couple months
 ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

 Fred Olver

 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan
 pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio


 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now
 started telling
 me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for
 $4.99.  Anyone
 else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase
 ..

 Sent from my iPhone

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RE: bone conducting headphones

2012-08-08 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like? 
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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RE: i phone apps.

2012-08-08 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez
Do you know of any neat weather aps or other neat aps that would be good to
have? How about a diary app or something where I can write a grocery list??

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i phone apps.

The only app that edits Microsoft Word documents is Pages but it is
challenging to use with VoiceOver.
There are lots of text editing apps that create and edit .txt files.
Check out
www.applevis.com

Two I like very much are PlainText and Meteor Notes.  PlainText is free,
Meteor Notes costs $2.99.
 They both sync with DropBox.

I'm not aware of any need for a virus program on the iPhone.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Ellen Sanchez
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i phone apps.

Hello I hope everyone is well.  Are there any aps that are interesting as I
am looking for new different aps. Is there an ap that I can get for a virus
program or do I need one for the I phone? I also am looking for something
like Microsoft word to write notes and things on my I phone or any diary aps
as well.  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for
your time.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio

Espn radio stands for Entertainment Sports Network. It is the largest
network here in the states. The radio network sometimes has basketball and
baseball games, mostly on the weekends and holidays. Mostly sports talk
shows with interviews and editorializing. Also app includes possibilities of

listening to sports stations across the country and their local hosts.

Fred Olver

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app. So why am I now have the pay
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a
 couple months
 ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

 Fred Olver

 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan
 pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio


 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now
 started telling
 me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for
 $4.99.  Anyone
 else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase
 ..

 Sent from my iPhone

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RE: searching apps in app store on ipad

2012-08-08 Thread Regina Alvarado
Oops, sorry it was an iPad and I told you iPhone.  So sorry! Not paying
attention! (smiles)
Reggie


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Subject: RE: searching apps in app store on ipad

Hank,

I don't have an iPad handy right now, but why not use the item chooser and
see if you can't find it that way. Do a 2-finger triple tap, then a double
tap to activate the search field you are on and start typing Search, when
I did it on my iPhone right now Search was the only thing left after
typing s e A, then double tap on the result and Voiceover focus is on the
Search button or tab.


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: bone conducting headphones

2012-08-08 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

There is the Captain Plus.  

I don't know much about it but, someone in my class when I recently went for
a Guide Dog, had one and was pleased with it.  He pointed out that it is not
the Trekker Breeze but very good considering the fact that it is about half
the price.  Myself, I don't think I would have much use for the voice
recognition because of the ambient noise when I'm out on the street but he
found it good for him in a smaller, quieter town.  Of course, you don't
absolutely have to use the voice recognition.

If you go to Google and search for Captain talking GPS, you will get a lot
of information about it.

HTH

Ron  Danvers

  

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Of Mary Ellen Sanchez
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
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Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like? 
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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Simple deleting question

2012-08-08 Thread Regina Alvarado
When the keyboard is up and you need to remove something from the window and
put something else in, such as in Fleksy when it puts in Fleksy and part of
the first line, is there a button or a sequence of buttons, movements, etc.
that will clear that window after tapping it to replace instead of needing
to clear it with delete one letter at a time? 

Curiously as this would help a lot

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RE: i phone apps.

2012-08-08 Thread Jennie Facer
Try Daily Tracker or Day One for your diary apps.

Jenn

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Of Mary Ellen Sanchez
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i phone apps.

Hello I hope everyone is well.  Are there any aps that are interesting as I
am looking for new different aps. Is there an ap that I can get for a virus
program or do I need one for the I phone? I also am looking for something
like Microsoft word to write notes and things on my I phone or any diary aps
as well.  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for
your time.

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Of Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio

Espn radio stands for Entertainment Sports Network. It is the largest
network here in the states. The radio network sometimes has basketball and
baseball games, mostly on the weekends and holidays. Mostly sports talk
shows with interviews and editorializing. Also app includes possibilities of

listening to sports stations across the country and their local hosts.

Fred Olver

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app. So why am I now have the pay
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a
 couple months
 ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

 Fred Olver

 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan
 pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio


 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now
 started telling
 me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for
 $4.99.  Anyone
 else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase
 ..

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find was 
to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to high 
quality downloads in the app’s settings and then download my books a fresh.
If there’s an easier less cumbersome way I’ve as of now not run across it.
Robin


From: Alex Stone 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: audible app

Wayne, I hadn't tried it, but I have now, and it didn't make any difference.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Cheers
Alex

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Sent: 08 August 2012 14:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

Have you tried closing the app from the app switcher, and then
launching Audible again? This often cures issues I have when deleting
books or after I delete a book.

Wayne

On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
 download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks
it
 has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
 Cheers
 Alex

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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 Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app

 Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
 button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
 you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
 confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
 more than one file at a time.

 On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

 Cheers

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RE: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Stone
Robin, thanks, I was afraid I was going to have to do that, and as far as I
can tell it looks like I'll have to bite the bullet.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: 08 August 2012 15:42
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi,

Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find
was to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to
high quality downloads in the app's settings and then download my books a
fresh.

If there's an easier less cumbersome way I've as of now not run across it.

Robin

 

 

From: Alex Stone mailto:alexstone...@btinternet.com  

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: audible app

 

Wayne, I hadn't tried it, but I have now, and it didn't make any difference.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Cheers
Alex

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: 08 August 2012 14:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

Have you tried closing the app from the app switcher, and then
launching Audible again? This often cures issues I have when deleting
books or after I delete a book.

Wayne

On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
 download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks
it
 has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
 Cheers
 Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michael Feir
 Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app

 Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
 button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
 you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
 confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
 more than one file at a time.

 On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

 Cheers

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Re: i phone apps.

2012-08-08 Thread Chris (gmail)

Well for a neat weather app try the free acu weather.

On 08/08/2012 15:06, Mary Ellen Sanchez wrote:

Do you know of any neat weather aps or other neat aps that would be good to
have? How about a diary app or something where I can write a grocery list??

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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i phone apps.

The only app that edits Microsoft Word documents is Pages but it is
challenging to use with VoiceOver.
There are lots of text editing apps that create and edit .txt files.
Check out
www.applevis.com

Two I like very much are PlainText and Meteor Notes.  PlainText is free,
Meteor Notes costs $2.99.
  They both sync with DropBox.

I'm not aware of any need for a virus program on the iPhone.

Richard


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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i phone apps.

Hello I hope everyone is well.  Are there any aps that are interesting as I
am looking for new different aps. Is there an ap that I can get for a virus
program or do I need one for the I phone? I also am looking for something
like Microsoft word to write notes and things on my I phone or any diary aps
as well.  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for
your time.

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Of Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio

Espn radio stands for Entertainment Sports Network. It is the largest
network here in the states. The radio network sometimes has basketball and
baseball games, mostly on the weekends and holidays. Mostly sports talk
shows with interviews and editorializing. Also app includes possibilities of

listening to sports stations across the country and their local hosts.

Fred Olver

- Original Message -
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message -
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app. So why am I now have the pay
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:


Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a
couple months
ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan
pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio



A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now
started telling
me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for
$4.99.  Anyone
else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase
..

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: i phone apps.

2012-08-08 Thread Chris (gmail)
No you do not need an antimalware program for the iPhone being Apple 
seriously restricts how apps are developed and integrated into the 
device. I personally like this approach but some don't.


On 08/08/2012 14:54, Mary Ellen Sanchez wrote:

Hello I hope everyone is well.  Are there any aps that are interesting as I
am looking for new different aps. Is there an ap that I can get for a virus
program or do I need one for the I phone? I also am looking for something
like Microsoft word to write notes and things on my I phone or any diary aps
as well.  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for
your time.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio

Espn radio stands for Entertainment Sports Network. It is the largest
network here in the states. The radio network sometimes has basketball and
baseball games, mostly on the weekends and holidays. Mostly sports talk
shows with interviews and editorializing. Also app includes possibilities of

listening to sports stations across the country and their local hosts.

Fred Olver

- Original Message -
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message -
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app. So why am I now have the pay
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:


Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a
couple months
ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan
pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio



A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now
started telling
me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for
$4.99.  Anyone
else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase
..

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Esther
Hi Alex, Robin, and Others,

Can you also try double tapping the refresh button to update the current 
status of information on downloaded files on your device?   You can find this 
button if you double tap the My Library button, then choose any of the 
categories -- probably Downloaded is best.  Flick to the Refresh button and 
double tap.  Then try flicking to the entry and double tapping to start it 
playing.  You can play tracks even when they are not fully downloaded.  Once 
you've started the book playing, you should be able to access the Info button 
in the top right corner.  Then double tap the Details button just above the 
home button, scroll down to the end of the page, and double tap the Remove 
from device button.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Alex Stone wrote:

 Robin, thanks, I was afraid I was going to have to do that, and as far as I 
 can tell it looks like I’ll have to bite the bullet.
 Cheers
 Alex
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Robin Frost
 Sent: 08 August 2012 15:42
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app
  
 Hi,
 Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find was 
 to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to high 
 quality downloads in the app’s settings and then download my books a fresh.
 If there’s an easier less cumbersome way I’ve as of now not run across it.
 Robin
  
  
 From: Alex Stone
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: audible app
  
 Wayne, I hadn't tried it, but I have now, and it didn't make any difference.
 Thanks for the suggestion though.
 Cheers
 Alex
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: 08 August 2012 14:52
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app
 
 Have you tried closing the app from the app switcher, and then
 launching Audible again? This often cures issues I have when deleting
 books or after I delete a book.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
  Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
  download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks
 it
  has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
  Cheers
  Alex
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Michael Feir
  Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: audible app
 
  Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
  button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
  you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
  confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
  more than one file at a time.
 
  On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
  Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?
 
  Cheers
 
  Alex
 
  

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RE: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Stone
This didn't help either, it's not that it's not fully downloaded, but that
the download is corrupted apparently. When I click on the first part, which
is the one with the problem, it tells me there's no data. I think I'm going
to have to uninstall and reinstall.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: 08 August 2012 16:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi Alex, Robin, and Others,

 

Can you also try double tapping the refresh button to update the current
status of information on downloaded files on your device?   You can find
this button if you double tap the My Library button, then choose any of
the categories -- probably Downloaded is best.  Flick to the Refresh
button and double tap.  Then try flicking to the entry and double tapping to
start it playing.  You can play tracks even when they are not fully
downloaded.  Once you've started the book playing, you should be able to
access the Info button in the top right corner.  Then double tap the
Details button just above the home button, scroll down to the end of the
page, and double tap the Remove from device button.

 

HTH.  Cheers,

 

Esther

 

On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Alex Stone wrote:





Robin, thanks, I was afraid I was going to have to do that, and as far as I
can tell it looks like I'll have to bite the bullet.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: 08 August 2012 15:42
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi,

Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find
was to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to
high quality downloads in the app's settings and then download my books a
fresh.

If there's an easier less cumbersome way I've as of now not run across it.

Robin

 

 

From: Alex Stone mailto:alexstone...@btinternet.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: audible app

 

Wayne, I hadn't tried it, but I have now, and it didn't make any difference.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: 08 August 2012 14:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

Have you tried closing the app from the app switcher, and then
launching Audible again? This often cures issues I have when deleting
books or after I delete a book.

Wayne

On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
 download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks
it
 has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
 Cheers
 Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michael Feir
 Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app

 Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
 button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
 you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
 confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
 more than one file at a time.

 On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

 Cheers

 Alex

 

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Re: Simple deleting question

2012-08-08 Thread Damashe Thomas
Hi,
If you want to remove all text in an edit field, the select all option and then 
tapping delete on the keyboard is probably the fastest way to do this. Turn the 
roter to the edit option, then swipe down with one finger until you hear select 
all. Double tap and all text will be selected and you can tap delete on the 
keyboard and it is gone.
If you wish to only delete a word or two turn the roter to word and swipe up or 
down depending on where the word is in relation to the current cursor position. 
Swiping up moves to the previous word and swiping moves to the next word. Once 
you have reached the word you wish to delete, using a two finger spread gesture 
on the screen will select text by word. You may have to practice this gesture 
before it becomes easy to perform. I would start by spreading two fingers 
slowly, and voice over will announce the word that is selected. If you select 
more than you wanted, pinching your fingers will deselect a word.
Once you have selected the text you want removed, tapping delete on the 
keyboard will erase it. This technique also works to select lines and letters, 
just turn the roter to the desired selection and use the two finger spread to 
select text by the desired block. Also, once text is selected,turning the roter 
to the edit option will offer the options to copy, cut and so on.
I hope this helped.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Regina Alvarado 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:23 AM
  Subject: Simple deleting question


  When the keyboard is up and you need to remove something from the window and 
put something else in, such as in Fleksy when it puts in Fleksy and part of the 
first line, is there a button or a sequence of buttons, movements, etc. that 
will clear that window after tapping it to replace instead of needing to clear 
it with delete one letter at a time? 

  Curiously as this would help a lot

  Reggie


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Re: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Esther
Hi Alex,

I haven't had a problem with a corrupted download, but if the uninstall and 
reinstall doesn't work, you can call Audible toll-free at 1-888-283-5051 (USA  
Canada) for support.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther  

On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:25 AM, Alex Stone wrote:

 This didn’t help either, it’s not that it’s not fully downloaded, but that 
 the download is corrupted apparently. When I click on the first part, which 
 is the one with the problem, it tells me there’s no data. I think I’m going 
 to have to uninstall and reinstall…
 Cheers
 Alex
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Esther
 Sent: 08 August 2012 16:20
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app
  
 Hi Alex, Robin, and Others,
  
 Can you also try double tapping the refresh button to update the current 
 status of information on downloaded files on your device?   You can find this 
 button if you double tap the My Library button, then choose any of the 
 categories -- probably Downloaded is best.  Flick to the Refresh button 
 and double tap.  Then try flicking to the entry and double tapping to start 
 it playing.  You can play tracks even when they are not fully downloaded.  
 Once you've started the book playing, you should be able to access the Info 
 button in the top right corner.  Then double tap the Details button just 
 above the home button, scroll down to the end of the page, and double tap the 
 Remove from device button.
  
 HTH.  Cheers,
  
 Esther
  
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Alex Stone wrote:
 
 
 Robin, thanks, I was afraid I was going to have to do that, and as far as I 
 can tell it looks like I’ll have to bite the bullet.
 Cheers
 Alex
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Robin Frost
 Sent: 08 August 2012 15:42
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app
  
 Hi,
 Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find was 
 to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to high 
 quality downloads in the app’s settings and then download my books a fresh.
 If there’s an easier less cumbersome way I’ve as of now not run across it.
 Robin
  

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RE: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Stone
Esther, I'm pretty sure the uninstall and reinstall will work, I've had this
problem before.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: 08 August 2012 16:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi Alex,

 

I haven't had a problem with a corrupted download, but if the uninstall and
reinstall doesn't work, you can call Audible toll-free at 1-888-283-5051
(USA  Canada) for support.

 

HTH.  Cheers,

 

Esther  

 

On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:25 AM, Alex Stone wrote:





This didn't help either, it's not that it's not fully downloaded, but that
the download is corrupted apparently. When I click on the first part, which
is the one with the problem, it tells me there's no data. I think I'm going
to have to uninstall and reinstall.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: 08 August 2012 16:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi Alex, Robin, and Others,

 

Can you also try double tapping the refresh button to update the current
status of information on downloaded files on your device?   You can find
this button if you double tap the My Library button, then choose any of
the categories -- probably Downloaded is best.  Flick to the Refresh
button and double tap.  Then try flicking to the entry and double tapping to
start it playing.  You can play tracks even when they are not fully
downloaded.  Once you've started the book playing, you should be able to
access the Info button in the top right corner.  Then double tap the
Details button just above the home button, scroll down to the end of the
page, and double tap the Remove from device button.

 

HTH.  Cheers,

 

Esther

 

On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Alex Stone wrote:






Robin, thanks, I was afraid I was going to have to do that, and as far as I
can tell it looks like I'll have to bite the bullet.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: 08 August 2012 15:42
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi,

Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find
was to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to
high quality downloads in the app's settings and then download my books a
fresh.

If there's an easier less cumbersome way I've as of now not run across it.

Robin

 

 

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RE: Simple deleting question

2012-08-08 Thread Regina Alvarado
It helps very much.  I apparently do not know how to do the pinch gesture
yet and have never been successful with it.  However, I am working on it!
Thanks for your help!

Reggie

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Damashe Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Simple deleting question

 

Hi,

If you want to remove all text in an edit field, the select all option and
then tapping delete on the keyboard is probably the fastest way to do this.
Turn the roter to the edit option, then swipe down with one finger until you
hear select all. Double tap and all text will be selected and you can tap
delete on the keyboard and it is gone.

If you wish to only delete a word or two turn the roter to word and swipe up
or down depending on where the word is in relation to the current cursor
position. Swiping up moves to the previous word and swiping moves to the
next word. Once you have reached the word you wish to delete, using a two
finger spread gesture on the screen will select text by word. You may have
to practice this gesture before it becomes easy to perform. I would start by
spreading two fingers slowly, and voice over will announce the word that is
selected. If you select more than you wanted, pinching your fingers will
deselect a word.

Once you have selected the text you want removed, tapping delete on the
keyboard will erase it. This technique also works to select lines and
letters, just turn the roter to the desired selection and use the two finger
spread to select text by the desired block. Also, once text is
selected,turning the roter to the edit option will offer the options to
copy, cut and so on.

I hope this helped.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Regina mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com  Alvarado 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:23 AM

Subject: Simple deleting question

 

When the keyboard is up and you need to remove something from the window and
put something else in, such as in Fleksy when it puts in Fleksy and part of
the first line, is there a button or a sequence of buttons, movements, etc.
that will clear that window after tapping it to replace instead of needing
to clear it with delete one letter at a time? 

Curiously as this would help a lot

Reggie

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Re: switching from pay as you go to subscription on line 2?

2012-08-08 Thread Hank Smith

can I get more info on the service?
never heard of this app before.
On 8/8/2012 12:05 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:

the line 2 app.
Simon

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*Subject:* Re: switching from pay as you go to subscription on line 2?

what app are u talking about?
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hello all,
does anyone know how one can switch from the pay as you go, to
the subscription plan on the line 2 service?
according to one of the e-mails I got from them, one can do this,
but there doesn't seem to be any info, either in the line 2 app,
or in the e-mail that mentioned it, about how to actually do this.
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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Rob Harris
Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first 
choices.
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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Re: switching from pay as you go to subscription on line 2?

2012-08-08 Thread Damashe Thomas
i,
It is a phone service simular to google voice in some ways. It also resembles 
services like skype in that with the free version you can only make calls to 
other line2 member for free. Also with the free service, you get a number that 
anyone can call, though I believe it only serves for voicemail. You can have 
callsforwarded to your mobile or a number of your choice if you are paying. You 
can go to
www.line2.com
To get more details, I may be wrong about some of what I have said since I 
haven't used it in some while.

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  From: Hank Smith 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:56 AM
  Subject: Re: switching from pay as you go to subscription on line 2?


  can I get more info on the service?
  never heard of this app before.
  On 8/8/2012 12:05 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:

the line 2 app. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:56 PM
  Subject: Re: switching from pay as you go to subscription on line 2?


  what app are u talking about?
  On 8/7/2012 2:31 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote:

hello all, 
does anyone know how one can switch from the pay as you go, to the 
subscription plan on the line 2 service? 
according to one of the e-mails I got from them, one can do this, but 
there doesn't seem to be any info, either in the line 2 app, or in the e-mail 
that mentioned it, about how to actually do this. 

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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'd also suggest checking out MapQuest from AoL. I don't have a lot of
experience with other GPS apps, so I can't compare, but MapQuest is
free, and I've found it to be pretty good. I'd suggest checking it out
to see if it meets your needs before investing in another app.

I don't have one in mind, but I'd also suggest taking questions about
stand alone talking GPS devices to another list. You might get more info
than you will on an iPhone list, where you'll probably hear more about
iPhone apps.

On 08/08/12 10:58, Rob Harris wrote:
 Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first 
 choices.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 
 Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
 trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 Hi,
 
 I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
 battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
 with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
 and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.
 
 They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.
 
 HTH
 
 Ron
 
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 Of Musiclady
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
 To: Viphone Email list
 Subject: bone conducting headphones
 
 I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
 Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
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Re: Simple deleting question

2012-08-08 Thread Damashe Thomas
I must admit that it takes some practice to become good at it. I worked at it 
for some while before I was very precise. I practiced with text that I couldn't 
edit at first, such as a web page or a book in iBooks or an email. I did this 
to become familiar with the spread and pinching gesture, and of course I 
wouldn't accidently delete anything that way. I practiced like that for a while 
and used the copy option on the edit menu. Someone on list actually post a 
while back that when selecting a word, line, etc that doing the spread gesture 
once to select a block of text then lifting your fingers and doing the gesture 
again would allow you to keep selecting text. For some reason, this helped me 
understand the selection a whole better. I don't remember who posted but that 
bit of information helped me greatly. 
The main thing is to practice it and it will become natural to you.
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  From: Regina Alvarado 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:45 AM
  Subject: RE: Simple deleting question


  It helps very much.  I apparently do not know how to do the pinch gesture yet 
and have never been successful with it.  However, I am working on it!  Thanks 
for your help!

  Reggie

   


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  Subject: Re: Simple deleting question

   

  Hi,

  If you want to remove all text in an edit field, the select all option and 
then tapping delete on the keyboard is probably the fastest way to do this. 
Turn the roter to the edit option, then swipe down with one finger until you 
hear select all. Double tap and all text will be selected and you can tap 
delete on the keyboard and it is gone.

  If you wish to only delete a word or two turn the roter to word and swipe up 
or down depending on where the word is in relation to the current cursor 
position. Swiping up moves to the previous word and swiping moves to the next 
word. Once you have reached the word you wish to delete, using a two finger 
spread gesture on the screen will select text by word. You may have to practice 
this gesture before it becomes easy to perform. I would start by spreading two 
fingers slowly, and voice over will announce the word that is selected. If you 
select more than you wanted, pinching your fingers will deselect a word.

  Once you have selected the text you want removed, tapping delete on the 
keyboard will erase it. This technique also works to select lines and letters, 
just turn the roter to the desired selection and use the two finger spread to 
select text by the desired block. Also, once text is selected,turning the roter 
to the edit option will offer the options to copy, cut and so on.

  I hope this helped.

   

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:23 AM

Subject: Simple deleting question

 

When the keyboard is up and you need to remove something from the window 
and put something else in, such as in Fleksy when it puts in Fleksy and part of 
the first line, is there a button or a sequence of buttons, movements, etc. 
that will clear that window after tapping it to replace instead of needing to 
clear it with delete one letter at a time? 

Curiously as this would help a lot

Reggie

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RE: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Alex,

 

I hope you haven't uninstalled the app yet because if you are sort of handy
with your iPhone you should be able to delete this with Voiceover turned
off. Alternatively, don't you have a family member, friend, favorite store
or bank clerk *smile* who could do this for you, it takes a sighted person
about 5 seconds.

 

Here is what you do if you want to try this and I can do this every time, it
might take me 2 or 3 attempts, but never more.

 

First, make sure your iPhone is on a flat surface and maybe put it on a
towel or something so it doesn't move.

 

Now, find the corrupted download by moving your finger around the screen
(not by flicking) and once Voiceover reads out that part of the book, stop
and lift your finger straight up just a bit (make sure you are on the left
edge of the screen).

 

Now, with your other hand, do a triple click home to turn off Voiceover. The
way a sighted person can delete downloaded books is to swipe across the part
of the book they want to delete from left to right, a Delete button pops
up on the right side of the screen, tap it and the book/part of the book is
gone, corrupted or not. If you explain this to a sighted person just tell
them to swipe across the title left to right and then touch the delete
button.

 

If you try it yourself with Voiceover off, just put that finger you lifted
up and which, hopefully, is still hovering like a vulture right above the
corrupted part, straight down and swipe across the screen as straight as
possible. You can even put a piece of paper on the screen when Voiceover is
still on to cover the top part of the screen (you don't want to cover the
bottom half because you have to press the home key to turn Voiceover off and
on). Then you have an edge to swipe along.

 

Now after you do your swipe, triple click home and turn Voiceover on and if
you nailed it, you can now swipe to find the Delete button, double tap it
and you are done. With a bit of practice this works quite well, I sometimes
do this even to delete stuff I could delte by going to Info and finding
the delete button, just so I have some practice with this.

 

Oh, and don't forget to email or call Audible and express your wish that
they make this swipe method to delete titles available in Voiceover, I don't
see why it shouldn't work or they could simply do what Downcast does and
that is to redesign the app so you have an Edit button, then you could
check all the parts of a book you want to delete and get rid of them all at
once. I am not a developer, but there have got to be other and better ways
to do this which work with Voiceover.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Rob,

Nothing for the IPhone yet compares with a stand alone GPS for the blind.  I
agree that the price is there but the results in a stand alone GPS far
surpass anything for the IPhone.

Ron  Danvers
 

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Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
choices.
- Original Message -
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
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and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez
Right but I was looking for a hand held device and also when I use the aps
on the phone if I were to get a phone call wouldn't it interrupt it?

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Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
choices.
- Original Message -
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Kellie Hickman
Mary Ellen,

There is one called kapten Mobility that is a hand held device. I would be
happy to find out a price for you.

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Of Mary Ellen Sanchez
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Right but I was looking for a hand held device and also when I use the aps
on the phone if I were to get a phone call wouldn't it interrupt it?

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Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
choices.
- Original Message -
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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List recorder upgrade question

2012-08-08 Thread Robert Hill
Hi all,

I upgraded List recorder from version 2.31, to 2.4.
I had the full edition before I upgraded, but after the upgrade, I found out I 
have the light edition.
If I had the full version in 2.3, do I have to re-purchase the full version in 
2.4?Or would I just have to go through the in-app upgrade to get the full 
version without paying?

Thbanks.

Bob Hill

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Re: List recorder upgrade question

2012-08-08 Thread Carol Pearson
When I put apps back on my phone at one stage, I ended up getting List 
Recorder (Light) and then upgrading again, but even though I thought I'd be 
charged, I then got a message that I'd already purchased this app so it was 
fine.


I expect the same will hold true for you.

Carol P
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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: List recorder upgrade question


Hi all,

I upgraded List recorder from version 2.31, to 2.4.
I had the full edition before I upgraded, but after the
upgrade, I found out I have the light edition.
If I had the full version in 2.3, do I have to
re-purchase the full version in 2.4?Or would I just have
to go through the in-app upgrade to get the full version
without paying?

Thbanks.

Bob Hill

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Jordan Gallacher
Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
I get out of it.
Jordan

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Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
choices.
- Original Message -
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Of Musiclady
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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Re: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
Aww I’m so sorry I know the inconvenience of that well as I’ve had to do it 
more than a few times in my day but over all it’s a small price to pay for 
access on the go through such devices.  but still in the midst of it it is 
indeed trying.
Robin


From: Alex Stone 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: audible app

Robin, thanks, I was afraid I was going to have to do that, and as far as I can 
tell it looks like I’ll have to bite the bullet.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: 08 August 2012 15:42
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi,

Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find was 
to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to high 
quality downloads in the app’s settings and then download my books a fresh.

If there’s an easier less cumbersome way I’ve as of now not run across it.

Robin

 

 

From: Alex Stone 

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: audible app

 

Wayne, I hadn't tried it, but I have now, and it didn't make any difference.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Cheers
Alex

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Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: 08 August 2012 14:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

Have you tried closing the app from the app switcher, and then
launching Audible again? This often cures issues I have when deleting
books or after I delete a book.

Wayne

On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
 download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks
it
 has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
 Cheers
 Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michael Feir
 Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app

 Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
 button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
 you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
 confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
 more than one file at a time.

 On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

 Cheers

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Re: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
Yes I did try that here and when the book was corrupted or uncooperative to 
that point such methods were a failure.
Robin


From: Esther 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: audible app

Hi Alex, Robin, and Others, 

Can you also try double tapping the refresh button to update the current 
status of information on downloaded files on your device?   You can find this 
button if you double tap the My Library button, then choose any of the 
categories -- probably Downloaded is best.  Flick to the Refresh button and 
double tap.  Then try flicking to the entry and double tapping to start it 
playing.  You can play tracks even when they are not fully downloaded.  Once 
you've started the book playing, you should be able to access the Info button 
in the top right corner.  Then double tap the Details button just above the 
home button, scroll down to the end of the page, and double tap the Remove 
from device button.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Alex Stone wrote:


  Robin, thanks, I was afraid I was going to have to do that, and as far as I 
can tell it looks like I’ll have to bite the bullet.
  Cheers
  Alex
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
  Sent: 08 August 2012 15:42
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: audible app
   
  Hi,
  Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find was 
to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to high 
quality downloads in the app’s settings and then download my books a fresh.
  If there’s an easier less cumbersome way I’ve as of now not run across it.
  Robin
   
   
  From: Alex Stone
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:57 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: audible app
   
  Wayne, I hadn't tried it, but I have now, and it didn't make any difference.
  Thanks for the suggestion though.
  Cheers
  Alex

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Wayne Merritt
  Sent: 08 August 2012 14:52
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: audible app

  Have you tried closing the app from the app switcher, and then
  launching Audible again? This often cures issues I have when deleting
  books or after I delete a book.

  Wayne

  On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
   Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
   download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks
  it
   has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
   Cheers
   Alex
  
   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
   Of Michael Feir
   Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: audible app
  
   Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
   button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
   you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
   confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
   more than one file at a time.
  
   On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
   Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?
  
   Cheers
  
   Alex
  
   
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OT: checking!

2012-08-08 Thread Regina Alvarado
Testing.  Working on a windows computer with an IMAP account.  Not able to
send messages for some reason.  Just want to know if I am still on.  Giving
up and want to learn to use the website, but I need someone to teach me and
that is impossible right at this minute.

Reggie

 

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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Sean Paul
Exactly why I got rid of it. I can here ESPN Radio on Tunein. Yes, I know I 
paid for it. But, I'm making a larger point here. I've already paid for your 
ap once, I'm not doing it again.
- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 07:52
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay for it in app 
purchase?


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a couple months 
ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.


Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio


A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling 
me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone 
else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: audible app

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Stone
I deleted the app and reinstalled, and now everything's happy.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: 08 August 2012 20:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi,

Yes I did try that here and when the book was corrupted or uncooperative to
that point such methods were a failure.

Robin

 

 

From: Esther mailto:mori...@mac-access.net  

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi Alex, Robin, and Others, 

 

Can you also try double tapping the refresh button to update the current
status of information on downloaded files on your device?   You can find
this button if you double tap the My Library button, then choose any of
the categories -- probably Downloaded is best.  Flick to the Refresh
button and double tap.  Then try flicking to the entry and double tapping to
start it playing.  You can play tracks even when they are not fully
downloaded.  Once you've started the book playing, you should be able to
access the Info button in the top right corner.  Then double tap the
Details button just above the home button, scroll down to the end of the
page, and double tap the Remove from device button.

 

HTH.  Cheers,

 

Esther

 

On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Alex Stone wrote:





Robin, thanks, I was afraid I was going to have to do that, and as far as I
can tell it looks like I'll have to bite the bullet.

Cheers

Alex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: 08 August 2012 15:42
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

 

Hi,

Sadly the few times this has happened to me the only way out I could find
was to delete the app in its entirety, reinstall it remembering to switch to
high quality downloads in the app's settings and then download my books a
fresh.

If there's an easier less cumbersome way I've as of now not run across it.

Robin

 

 

From: Alex Stone mailto:alexstone...@btinternet.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: audible app

 

Wayne, I hadn't tried it, but I have now, and it didn't make any difference.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: 08 August 2012 14:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible app

Have you tried closing the app from the app switcher, and then
launching Audible again? This often cures issues I have when deleting
books or after I delete a book.

Wayne

On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Thanks. The problem I have is that the item I want to delete has failed to
 download properly, so I can't get to the info button, but the app thinks
it
 has downloaded, so I can't download it again either.
 Cheers
 Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michael Feir
 Sent: 08 August 2012 14:13
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible app

 Hello Alex. It's a bit non-intuitive. You have to go to the info
 button of a particular file in question. Then, in the info dialoge,
 you'll find a remove file from this device button. Hit that and then
 confirm you want to remove the file. I haven't found a way of removing
 more than one file at a time.

 On 8/8/12, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Can anyone please remind me how to remove items from the Audible app?

 Cheers

 Alex

 

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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Sean Paul

Fred:
You're on the right track here. Basically, it is a new app to them. They're 
saying that you can now rewind a show up to an hour, get sports scores  
news pushed to you as an alert  several other things. I'm fine if they 
wanted to charge a purchase price going forward. However, if folks had 
already bought it. We should have been able to either keep what we had or 
not have to pay for their new app. Again, I uninstalled it  don't much care 
about it now. Just being greedy if you ask me.
- Original Message - 
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 07:55
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99 for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a couple months 
ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.


Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio


A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling 
me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone 
else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Logan
Yep .. I agree with you ... they aren't getting anything else from me ...

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Sean Paul newsandtraf...@aol.com wrote:

 Exactly why I got rid of it. I can here ESPN Radio on Tunein. Yes, I know I 
 paid for it. But, I'm making a larger point here. I've already paid for your 
 ap once, I'm not doing it again.
 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 07:52
 Subject: Re: ESPN Radio
 
 
 But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay for it in app 
 purchase?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a couple months ago. 
 Pay the money, it's a good app.
 
 Fred Olver
 
 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio
 
 
 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling me 
 the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone else 
 had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Logan
I'm going to send them a letter.  Agree with all you got ...

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Sean Paul newsandtraf...@aol.com wrote:

 Fred:
 You're on the right track here. Basically, it is a new app to them. They're 
 saying that you can now rewind a show up to an hour, get sports scores  news 
 pushed to you as an alert  several other things. I'm fine if they wanted to 
 charge a purchase price going forward. However, if folks had already bought 
 it. We should have been able to either keep what we had or not have to pay 
 for their new app. Again, I uninstalled it  don't much care about it now. 
 Just being greedy if you ask me.
 - Original Message - From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 07:55
 Subject: Re: ESPN Radio
 
 
 I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99 for it very
 early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that rather than calling
 what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app since you can do
 so much more with it.
 
 Fred Olver
 
 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
 Subject: Re: ESPN Radio
 
 
 But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay for it in app
 purchase?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a couple months ago. 
 Pay the money, it's a good app.
 
 Fred Olver
 
 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
 Subject: ESPN Radio
 
 
 A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling me 
 the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone else 
 had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jordan,

I think statements like Navigon is crap should always be avoided, Navigon
works extremely well for a lot of people and by that I do mean blind or
visually impaired people using Voiceover. I used Navigon every day during a
vacation on Maui in March and it worked flawlessly every time and the
information it had including restaurants and POI's was very accurate. Based
on good reviews on here I recently tried Motion X GPS Drive and found it
much more difficult to use than Navigon, but I won't say it resembles fecal
matter because I am sure that with more practice it's quite usable. I
personally prefer paying upfront instead of an annual subscription and as
far as I know you also need a data connection for Motion X whereas navigon
maps are downloaded to the phone and since I don't necessarily have a data
connection when I travel to other countries that is a big advantage. How
well a GPS app works is subjective at best because there are quite a few
factors involved so it's probably a good idea to put things into perspective
by pointing out that while Navigon may not have worked well for you it's not
one of the leading GPS apps for no reason. I agree that it could be a lot
better both with respect to features as well as Voiceover, but it's very
useable and in combination with Sendero LookAround or Ariadne it does a
pretty good job especially since Ariadne now can run in the background.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: ESPN Radio

2012-08-08 Thread Sean Paul

Fred:
You're on the right track here. Basically, it is a new app to them. They're 
saying that you can now rewind a show up to an hour, get sports scores  
news pushed to you as an alert  several other things. I'm fine if they 
wanted to charge a purchase price going forward. However, if folks had 
already bought it. We should have been able to either keep what we had or 
not have to pay for their new app. Again, I uninstalled it  don't much care 
about it now. Just being greedy if you ask me.
- Original Message - 
From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 07:55
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99 for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app… So why am I now have the pay for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a couple months 
ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.


Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio


A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now started telling 
me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for $4.99.  Anyone 
else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase ..


Sent from my iPhone

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jailbreaking second jen apple tv

2012-08-08 Thread paras shah
 Is the jailbreaking experience of the second jen apple tv accessible.
Does voice over read all menus after jailbroken

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RE: List recorder upgrade question

2012-08-08 Thread Thom
Go in, as if you are updating. It will give you the full version without
charging you. At least it did for me.

Thom

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Hi all,

I upgraded List recorder from version 2.31, to 2.4.
I had the full edition before I upgraded, but after the upgrade, I found out
I have the light edition. If I had the full version in 2.3, do I have to
re-purchase the full version in 2.4?Or would I just have to go through the
in-app upgrade to get the full version without paying?

Thbanks.

Bob Hill

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RE: bone conducting headphones

2012-08-08 Thread Gail the U. S. Male
They're quite nice!  The sound is quite adequate, and they're pretty
comfortable to wear.  They might be a problem for some, depending on how
large or small their heads are, since they do not have any way to adjust
them.

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I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like? 
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Jordan Gallacher
Well that is my story about Navigone and I will stick to it.  With the
number of things this app has wrong it should not even be around at this
point.  So my statement is and always will be that it is what I said it was.
Data assisted GPS seems to work better for the most part anyway.
Jordan

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Hi Jordan,

I think statements like Navigon is crap should always be avoided, Navigon
works extremely well for a lot of people and by that I do mean blind or
visually impaired people using Voiceover. I used Navigon every day during a
vacation on Maui in March and it worked flawlessly every time and the
information it had including restaurants and POI's was very accurate. Based
on good reviews on here I recently tried Motion X GPS Drive and found it
much more difficult to use than Navigon, but I won't say it resembles fecal
matter because I am sure that with more practice it's quite usable. I
personally prefer paying upfront instead of an annual subscription and as
far as I know you also need a data connection for Motion X whereas navigon
maps are downloaded to the phone and since I don't necessarily have a data
connection when I travel to other countries that is a big advantage. How
well a GPS app works is subjective at best because there are quite a few
factors involved so it's probably a good idea to put things into perspective
by pointing out that while Navigon may not have worked well for you it's not
one of the leading GPS apps for no reason. I agree that it could be a lot
better both with respect to features as well as Voiceover, but it's very
useable and in combination with Sendero LookAround or Ariadne it does a
pretty good job especially since Ariadne now can run in the background.


Regards,
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Re: OT: checking!

2012-08-08 Thread Chris (gmail)

Received.

On 08/08/2012 20:13, Regina Alvarado wrote:

Testing.  Working on a windows computer with an IMAP account.  Not able
to send messages for some reason.  Just want to know if I am still on.
  Giving up and want to learn to use the website, but I need someone to
teach me and that is impossible right at this minute.

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Voicebook

2012-08-08 Thread Kathy and Wilda
A couple of weeks ago I installed above app free but was under the
impression that it was being updated for a fee. Does anyone know what is
happening with this app or did I miss something.

 

Kathy and Seeing Eye dog Wilda

 

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Scott Bresnahan

Hi,

Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of 
interest database, that's sort of like complaining about a car 
because they don't make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS 
app is in route navigation and directions.  If you enter an address, 
navigon does a great job of getting you there.  I've never had issues 
with it getting me from point A to point B.


If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering 
user interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, 
despite the other post to the contrary, I've found the POI database 
fine for my needs, and since it integrates with around me, and I can 
send POIs directly to navigon from there, finding a point of interest 
is quite easy.


Also, if you can't stand address entry, the third party app called 
Navigon Now, can make that part simple too.



So, if there are other issues with Navigon beyond it didn't have the 
one point of interest I happened to be looking for, then by all 
means, bring itt up an dlet's discuss.


--Scott
Prayer: begging a god to reconsider its plan.




Hi Jordan,

I think statements like Navigon is crap should always be avoided, Navigon
works extremely well for a lot of people and by that I do mean blind or
visually impaired people using Voiceover. I used Navigon every day during a
vacation on Maui in March and it worked flawlessly every time and the
information it had including restaurants and POI's was very accurate. Based
on good reviews on here I recently tried Motion X GPS Drive and found it
much more difficult to use than Navigon, but I won't say it resembles fecal
matter because I am sure that with more practice it's quite usable. I
personally prefer paying upfront instead of an annual subscription and as
far as I know you also need a data connection for Motion X whereas navigon
maps are downloaded to the phone and since I don't necessarily have a data
connection when I travel to other countries that is a big advantage. How
well a GPS app works is subjective at best because there are quite a few
factors involved so it's probably a good idea to put things into perspective
by pointing out that while Navigon may not have worked well for you it's not
one of the leading GPS apps for no reason. I agree that it could be a lot
better both with respect to features as well as Voiceover, but it's very
useable and in combination with Sendero LookAround or Ariadne it does a
pretty good job especially since Ariadne now can run in the background.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the
blind are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the
population. I'd also claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might
be useful to someone else, even though they don't care for it
themselves, is also exhibiting some narrow mindedness.

I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and
since it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else,
except for YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still
looking at it. I would never think to call someone else who doesn't like
MapQuest to be narrow minded though.

Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so
people can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness
if people end up liking different options.

On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  They
 think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems with this
 app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main apps I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type in the
 business name and most of the time I am going to the closest one in the
 list.  Navigone used to be good, but it didn't even get my route right the
 last time I used it for a route that I really needed it for.
 Jordan
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Bresnahan
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Hi,
 
 Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of interest
 database, that's sort of like complaining about a car because they don't
 make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS app is in route navigation
 and directions.  If you enter an address, navigon does a great job of
 getting you there.  I've never had issues with it getting me from point A to
 point B.
 
 If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering user
 interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, despite the
 other post to the contrary, I've found the POI database fine for my needs,
 and since it integrates with around me, and I can send POIs directly to
 navigon from there, finding a point of interest is quite easy.
 
 Also, if you can't stand address entry, the third party app called Navigon
 Now, can make that part simple too.
 
 
 So, if there are other issues with Navigon beyond it didn't have the 
 one point of interest I happened to be looking for, then by all 
 means, bring itt up an dlet's discuss.
 
 --Scott
 Prayer: begging a god to reconsider its plan.
 
 
 
 Hi Jordan,

 I think statements like Navigon is crap should always be avoided, Navigon
 works extremely well for a lot of people and by that I do mean blind or
 visually impaired people using Voiceover. I used Navigon every day during a
 vacation on Maui in March and it worked flawlessly every time and the
 information it had including restaurants and POI's was very accurate. Based
 on good reviews on here I recently tried Motion X GPS Drive and found it
 much more difficult to use than Navigon, but I won't say it resembles fecal
 matter because I am sure that with more practice it's quite usable. I
 personally prefer paying upfront instead of an annual subscription and as
 far as I know you also need a data connection for Motion X whereas navigon
 maps are downloaded to the phone and since I don't necessarily have a data
 connection when I travel to other countries that is a big advantage. How
 well a GPS app works is subjective at best because there are quite a few
 factors involved so it's probably a good idea to put things into
 perspective
 by pointing out that while Navigon may not have worked well for you it's
 not
 one of the leading GPS apps for no reason. I agree that it could be a lot
 better both with respect to features as well as Voiceover, but it's very
 useable and in combination with Sendero LookAround or Ariadne it does a
 pretty good job especially since Ariadne now can run in the background.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
Since I don't have much experience with any of these, do you always have to put 
in an address as a destination? 

Reggie and Brooks


On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the
blind are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the
population. I'd also claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might
be useful to someone else, even though they don't care for it
themselves, is also exhibiting some narrow mindedness.

I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and
since it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else,
except for YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still
looking at it. I would never think to call someone else who doesn't like
MapQuest to be narrow minded though.

Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so
people can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness
if people end up liking different options.

On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  They
 think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems with this
 app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main apps I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type in the
 business name and most of the time I am going to the closest one in the
 list.  Navigone used to be good, but it didn't even get my route right the
 last time I used it for a route that I really needed it for.
 Jordan
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Bresnahan
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Hi,
 
 Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of interest
 database, that's sort of like complaining about a car because they don't
 make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS app is in route navigation
 and directions.  If you enter an address, navigon does a great job of
 getting you there.  I've never had issues with it getting me from point A to
 point B.
 
 If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering user
 interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, despite the
 other post to the contrary, I've found the POI database fine for my needs,
 and since it integrates with around me, and I can send POIs directly to
 navigon from there, finding a point of interest is quite easy.
 
 Also, if you can't stand address entry, the third party app called Navigon
 Now, can make that part simple too.
 
 
 So, if there are other issues with Navigon beyond it didn't have the 
 one point of interest I happened to be looking for, then by all 
 means, bring itt up an dlet's discuss.
 
 --Scott
 Prayer: begging a god to reconsider its plan.
 
 
 
 Hi Jordan,
 
 I think statements like Navigon is crap should always be avoided, Navigon
 works extremely well for a lot of people and by that I do mean blind or
 visually impaired people using Voiceover. I used Navigon every day during a
 vacation on Maui in March and it worked flawlessly every time and the
 information it had including restaurants and POI's was very accurate. Based
 on good reviews on here I recently tried Motion X GPS Drive and found it
 much more difficult to use than Navigon, but I won't say it resembles fecal
 matter because I am sure that with more practice it's quite usable. I
 personally prefer paying upfront instead of an annual subscription and as
 far as I know you also need a data connection for Motion X whereas navigon
 maps are downloaded to the phone and since I don't necessarily have a data
 connection when I travel to other countries that is a big advantage. How
 well a GPS app works is subjective at best because there are quite a few
 factors involved so it's probably a good idea to put things into
 perspective
 by pointing out that while Navigon may not have worked well for you it's
 not
 one of the leading GPS apps for no reason. I agree that it could be a lot
 better both with respect to features as well as Voiceover, but it's very
 useable and in combination with Sendero LookAround or Ariadne it does a
 pretty good job especially since Ariadne now can run in the background.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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Re: switching from pay as you go to subscription on line 2?

2012-08-08 Thread David Chittenden
Sure, open the app store app on your iOS device. Select the search tab. Select 
the edit field. Type line2 and select enter. You will get a list of apps. I 
just did it and the app is the first in the list. 

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On 09/08/2012, at 3:56, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:

 can I get more info on the service?
 never heard of this app before.
 On 8/8/2012 12:05 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
 the line 2 app.
  
 Simon
  
  
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 what app are u talking about?
 On 8/7/2012 2:31 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
 hello all,
 does anyone know how one can switch from the pay as you go, to the 
 subscription plan on the line 2 service?
 according to one of the e-mails I got from them, one can do this, but there 
 doesn't seem to be any info, either in the line 2 app, or in the e-mail 
 that mentioned it, about how to actually do this.
  
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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
One of the things I like about the MapQuest app, is that I can just
enter the name of a business. I don't have to have the address. One of
the things I didn't like about the YellowPages app, is that it looked
liked I needed the address. This doesn't makes sense to me though, which
is why I'm still holding on to the YellowPages app to see if it's just
an idiot operator error.

On 08/08/12 17:11, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since I don't have much experience with any of these, do you always have to 
 put in an address as a destination? 
 
 Reggie and Brooks
 
 
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the
 blind are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the
 population. I'd also claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might
 be useful to someone else, even though they don't care for it
 themselves, is also exhibiting some narrow mindedness.
 
 I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
 experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and
 since it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else,
 except for YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still
 looking at it. I would never think to call someone else who doesn't like
 MapQuest to be narrow minded though.
 
 Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so
 people can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness
 if people end up liking different options.
 
 On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  They
 think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems with this
 app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main apps I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type in the
 business name and most of the time I am going to the closest one in the
 list.  Navigone used to be good, but it didn't even get my route right the
 last time I used it for a route that I really needed it for.
 Jordan

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Bresnahan
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?

 Hi,

 Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of interest
 database, that's sort of like complaining about a car because they don't
 make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS app is in route navigation
 and directions.  If you enter an address, navigon does a great job of
 getting you there.  I've never had issues with it getting me from point A to
 point B.

 If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering user
 interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, despite the
 other post to the contrary, I've found the POI database fine for my needs,
 and since it integrates with around me, and I can send POIs directly to
 navigon from there, finding a point of interest is quite easy.

 Also, if you can't stand address entry, the third party app called Navigon
 Now, can make that part simple too.


 So, if there are other issues with Navigon beyond it didn't have the 
 one point of interest I happened to be looking for, then by all 
 means, bring itt up an dlet's discuss.

 --Scott
 Prayer: begging a god to reconsider its plan.



 Hi Jordan,

 I think statements like Navigon is crap should always be avoided, Navigon
 works extremely well for a lot of people and by that I do mean blind or
 visually impaired people using Voiceover. I used Navigon every day during a
 vacation on Maui in March and it worked flawlessly every time and the
 information it had including restaurants and POI's was very accurate. Based
 on good reviews on here I recently tried Motion X GPS Drive and found it
 much more difficult to use than Navigon, but I won't say it resembles fecal
 matter because I am sure that with more practice it's quite usable. I
 personally prefer paying upfront instead of an annual subscription and as
 far as I know you also need a data connection for Motion X whereas navigon
 maps are downloaded to the phone and since I don't necessarily have a data
 connection when I travel to other countries that is a big advantage. How
 well a GPS app works is subjective at best because there are quite a few
 factors involved so it's probably a good idea to put things into
 perspective
 by pointing out that while Navigon may not have worked well for you it's
 not
 one of the leading GPS apps for no reason. I agree that it could be a lot
 better both with respect to features as well as Voiceover, but it's very
 useable and in combination with Sendero LookAround or Ariadne it does a
 pretty good job especially since Ariadne now can run in the background.


 Regards,
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Re: using a BT keyboard for the first time

2012-08-08 Thread cnmyhand
A great resource
Thanks and eternally grateful 

C N MyHand 
Sent from my IPod: Soki's TOUCH

On Aug 5, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I find the web site http://www.hllf.net/70 to be a great resource when 
 it comes to using a BT keyboard with VoiceOver.
 
 On 08/05/2012 07:01 PM, cnmyh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are there any commands for using a bluetooth keyboard with an ipod and/or 
 iphone?
 
 C N MyHand
 Sent from my IPod: Soki's TOUCH
 
 
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RE: Latest groupon app

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Stone
I installed it for the first time yesterday, and no I don't think it's
accessible. A friend of mine tells me it largely consists of images.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Parravano
Sent: 06 August 2012 13:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest groupon app

In my view it is still not accessible. Pretty sad.

Paul



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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 18:30
To: Viphone Group
Subject: Latest groupon app

Hi, the new version of Groupon came out yesterday, is it more accessible
now?

Kirsten 

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OT MacBook

2012-08-08 Thread Marianne Denning
I recently purchased a MacBook Air and have requested to join a
listserv but my request is pending.  I have a question about VO on the
computer and would appreciate someone with knowledge about VO
contacting me off list.

Marianne Denning

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Jordan Gallacher
No.  Navigone has Points of Interest such as restaurants, hotels etc.  GPS
Drive is nice because you can type in the exact business name and it will
pull up a list of all the businesses matching that search.  It searches the
internet to find the business and the list starts with the business closest
to you.  Unlimited data sure is nice to have, and I am glad to still have
it.  That is the down side to this app.  
Jordan 

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Of reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Since I don't have much experience with any of these, do you always have to
put in an address as a destination? 

Reggie and Brooks


On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the blind
are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the population. I'd also
claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might be useful to someone
else, even though they don't care for it themselves, is also exhibiting some
narrow mindedness.

I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and since
it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else, except for
YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still looking at it. I
would never think to call someone else who doesn't like MapQuest to be
narrow minded though.

Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so people
can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness if people
end up liking different options.

On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  
 They think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems 
 with this app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main apps
I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type 
 in the business name and most of the time I am going to the closest 
 one in the list.  Navigone used to be good, but it didn't even get my 
 route right the last time I used it for a route that I really needed it
for.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Bresnahan
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Hi,
 
 Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of 
 interest database, that's sort of like complaining about a car because 
 they don't make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS app is in 
 route navigation and directions.  If you enter an address, navigon 
 does a great job of getting you there.  I've never had issues with it 
 getting me from point A to point B.
 
 If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering 
 user interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, 
 despite the other post to the contrary, I've found the POI database 
 fine for my needs, and since it integrates with around me, and I can 
 send POIs directly to navigon from there, finding a point of interest is
quite easy.
 
 Also, if you can't stand address entry, the third party app called 
 Navigon Now, can make that part simple too.
 
 
 So, if there are other issues with Navigon beyond it didn't have the 
 one point of interest I happened to be looking for, then by all means, 
 bring itt up an dlet's discuss.
 
 --Scott
 Prayer: begging a god to reconsider its plan.
 
 
 
 Hi Jordan,
 
 I think statements like Navigon is crap should always be avoided, 
 Navigon works extremely well for a lot of people and by that I do 
 mean blind or visually impaired people using Voiceover. I used 
 Navigon every day during a vacation on Maui in March and it worked 
 flawlessly every time and the information it had including 
 restaurants and POI's was very accurate. Based on good reviews on 
 here I recently tried Motion X GPS Drive and found it much more 
 difficult to use than Navigon, but I won't say it resembles fecal 
 matter because I am sure that with more practice it's quite usable. I 
 personally prefer paying upfront instead of an annual subscription 
 and as far as I know you also need a data connection for Motion X 
 whereas navigon maps are downloaded to the phone and since I don't 
 necessarily have a data connection when I travel to other countries 
 that is a big advantage. How well a GPS app works is subjective at 
 best because there are quite a few factors involved so it's probably 
 a good idea to put things into
 perspective
 by pointing out that while Navigon may not have worked well for you 
 it's
 not
 one of the leading GPS apps for no reason. I agree that it could be a 
 lot better both with respect to features as well as Voiceover, but 
 it's very 

RE: New iPhone release date.

2012-08-08 Thread Corey Michael Cook
I would say given apple patterns of the past expect it next month or in
October,.

Corey Cook
Facebook:
corey.coo...@gmail.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone release date.

I agree with this. Until we all tune in to the broadcast that Apple has, 
anything said is just rumor and has no real concrete results. it's fun 
to speculate though with human beings because the same discussion takes 
place each time something new will come out. We are certainly a curious 
bunch for sure.

--
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The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter. - 
Mark Twain
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On 8/5/2012 6:49 PM, Don Moore wrote:
 Kim Komando indicated yesterday that the only thing you could be sure of
 is that it would be out before Christmas.

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Re: i phone apps.

2012-08-08 Thread Andy Baracco
Good advice, because what is interesting to me might not be interesting to 
you.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i phone apps.

Ditto for reading the applevis.com web site, searching through the
archives of this list or just lurking.

On 08/08/12 09:30, Fred Olver wrote:

Hello, Mary Ellen and others,

You bring up an interesting point, how to find interesting apps. Several
times, I have found that if I try using key words, kind of like
descriptors such as for example diary, or tesxt, or talking, or perhaps
weather that I can find many different and interesting apps. True, you
can only discern only 25 at a time, however it's a nice way to use an
hour and can be a very interesting way of spending some free time.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - From: Mary Ellen Sanchez
sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: i phone apps.



Hello I hope everyone is well.  Are there any aps that are interesting
as I
am looking for new different aps. Is there an ap that I can get for a
virus
program or do I need one for the I phone? I also am looking for something
like Microsoft word to write notes and things on my I phone or any
diary aps
as well.  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much for
your time.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio

Espn radio stands for Entertainment Sports Network. It is the largest
network here in the states. The radio network sometimes has basketball
and
baseball games, mostly on the weekends and holidays. Mostly sports talk
shows with interviews and editorializing. Also app includes
possibilities of

listening to sports stations across the country and their local hosts.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


Hello List
Sorry for my ignorance but what is ESPN radio?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


I know, I had the same question. I thought I had paid $2.99
for it very
early in the year or late last year. My thinking is that
rather than calling
what they did an upgrade, they are considering it a new app
since you can do
so much more with it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: ESPN Radio


But I already paid for the app. So why am I now have the pay
for it in app
purchase?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Fred Olver
goodfo...@charter.net wrote:


Yes, accept I didn't get the trial period or mine ended a
couple months
ago. Pay the money, it's a good app.

Fred Olver

- Original Message - From: Peter Logan
pdlloga...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:44 AM
Subject: ESPN Radio



A while back I bought the ESPN radio ap ...  It has now
started telling
me the trial period is over...and wants me to buy it for
$4.99.  Anyone
else had this issue, it wants me to do an in app purchase
..

Sent from my iPhone

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Suggestions for an accessible diary/journal app

2012-08-08 Thread Margaret Booth
Can anyone suggest an accessible diary or journal app for my iPhone that I
can use while I'm on holidays. I'm going overseas with my husband for a few
weeks and I want to be able to write down what I'm doing as I'm travelling.
I don't know if if it is possible that in the app there is an option to
email my entries to me. Thanks for anyone's help.

Margaret 


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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Andy Baracco
Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create routes 
and you can't get turn by turn directions.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Jordan Gallacher

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
I get out of it.
Jordan

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Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
choices.
- Original Message -
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Les Kriegler
Watch for Looktel Breadcrumbs coming any day now.  It sounds like it's for 
pedestrian travel primarily.  I have high hopes for this one, as routes can be 
created and I have confidence that Looktel will produce a solid product.  They 
would have released in July, but they received a couple of suggestions that 
they decided to implement based on feedback they received at the conventions, 
so they have to re-submit to Apple for a second approval.  A rep from Looktel 
said it should be out within a week.

Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create routes 
 and you can't get turn by turn directions.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Jordan Gallacher
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
 in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
 really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
 well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
 even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
 I get out of it.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rob Harris
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
 choices.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 
 Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
 trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 Hi,
 
 I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
 battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
 with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
 and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.
 
 They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.
 
 HTH
 
 Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Musiclady
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 I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
 Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
 Thanks.
 Steph
 
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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Ferrara
Does anyone know if Sendero is involved with this app at all and if they 
plan on producing another GPS app for the iPhone?


Paul
- Original Message - 
From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Talking gps?


Watch for Looktel Breadcrumbs coming any day now.  It sounds like it's for 
pedestrian travel primarily.  I have high hopes for this one, as routes can 
be created and I have confidence that Looktel will produce a solid product. 
They would have released in July, but they received a couple of suggestions 
that they decided to implement based on feedback they received at the 
conventions, so they have to re-submit to Apple for a second approval.  A 
rep from Looktel said it should be out within a week.


Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create 
routes and you can't get turn by turn directions.


Andy


-Original Message- From: Jordan Gallacher
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an 
appointment

in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the 
use

I get out of it.
Jordan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
choices.
- Original Message -
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
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Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Michelle McQuigge
Thank you for this clarification. I've found myself underwhelmed with
Ariadne, especially considering all the hype. I found the map feature to be
unreliable at best. I have very sound orientation when I'm on familiar
ground, and when I've put the app through its paces, the map it presents me
with doesn't always align with what I know to be there. Still, I do love the
concept of an interactive map and have faith the accuracy will improve in
time. In the meantime, though, I am watching this thread with interest.
Which of the many apps currently under discussion *do* provide turn-by-turn
navigation, will alert you when you reach a specific destination etc? I
gather Navigon handles many of these functions? 


Many thanks,
Michelle


I have very sound orientation generally, and the street names it reads out
when I'm testing it in familiar territory have been approximate at best, at
least in my limited experience. I do love the idea of an interactive map,
however  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: August 8, 2012 9:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create routes
and you can't get turn by turn directions.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Jordan Gallacher
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
I get out of it.
Jordan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
choices.
- Original Message -
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Musiclady
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread AnonyMouse
Hello,

The MapQuest has some potential. It isn't perfect but does work. I love the
fact you can enter an address as well give you the ability to select from a
search. I sure wish it had a Favorite to store my locations.

AroundMe is nice if you want something FREE as well. However, this doesn't
give you the ability to enter an address as you would in MapQuest but it is
very easy to use. This app is great if you are walking to a certain business
or shop. It is free and does offer turn-by turn just like the MapQuest and
it also provides Favorites.

Navigon is very large. The more maps you want the more it will suck the
living space out of your phone. However, the upside is that you don't use
data. The downside is the space it consumes and the map and POI can get
outdated quicker. It is also very expensive. There a lot of people that love
this GPS program.

MotionX is very nice because the Map and the Search are quite up to date.
However, the downside is that it uses data. I'll be honest I don't know how
much. So if you are tight on the data then Navagon is your choice. I prefer
this one over all of the other apps I've used that are a paid app with a
subscription fee for every year.

There are other GPS such as Tom-Tom, Garmin, WASZ, MyWay and etc.

Don't forget that if you have the iPhone 4s or might be getting the iPhone
5. That the IOS 6 will have a whole brand new Map App. It will be accessible
and will offer turn-by-turn navigation for free. So before you shell out
those big bucks. Think twice because this is coming down the pipe. Poor
souls of Navagon, MotionX, Garmin and etc. that are a paid app with
subscription. They will soon disappear unless the new IOS 6 Map App doesn't
live up to expectation. Too soon to know!

Those with the iPhone 3gs and the iPhone 4 then you will be safe in
purchasing those expensive GPS apps. The IOS 6 Map will not offer the
turn-by-turn to those devices. :(

Regards,
AnonyMouse



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the blind
are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the population. I'd also
claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might be useful to someone
else, even though they don't care for it themselves, is also exhibiting some
narrow mindedness.

I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and since
it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else, except for
YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still looking at it. I
would never think to call someone else who doesn't like MapQuest to be
narrow minded though.

Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so people
can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness if people
end up liking different options.

On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  
 They think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems 
 with this app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main apps
I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type 
 in the business name and most of the time I am going to the closest 
 one in the list.  Navigone used to be good, but it didn't even get my 
 route right the last time I used it for a route that I really needed it
for.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Bresnahan
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Hi,
 
 Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of 
 interest database, that's sort of like complaining about a car because 
 they don't make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS app is in 
 route navigation and directions.  If you enter an address, navigon 
 does a great job of getting you there.  I've never had issues with it 
 getting me from point A to point B.
 
 If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering 
 user interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, 
 despite the other post to the contrary, I've found the POI database 
 fine for my needs, and since it integrates with around me, and I can 
 send POIs directly to navigon from there, finding a point of interest is
quite easy.
 
 Also, if you can't stand address entry, the third party app called 
 Navigon Now, can make that part simple too.
 
 
 So, if there are other issues with Navigon beyond it didn't have the 
 one point of interest I happened to be looking for, then by all means, 
 bring itt up an dlet's discuss.
 
 --Scott
 Prayer: begging a god to reconsider its plan.
 
 
 
 Hi 

RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Michelle McQuigge
Thanks so much, Anony - this is extremely helpful. It seems this 3gs user
has some research to do! :) 
 

Take care,
Michelle
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of AnonyMouse
Sent: August 8, 2012 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Hello,

The MapQuest has some potential. It isn't perfect but does work. I love the
fact you can enter an address as well give you the ability to select from a
search. I sure wish it had a Favorite to store my locations.

AroundMe is nice if you want something FREE as well. However, this doesn't
give you the ability to enter an address as you would in MapQuest but it is
very easy to use. This app is great if you are walking to a certain business
or shop. It is free and does offer turn-by turn just like the MapQuest and
it also provides Favorites.

Navigon is very large. The more maps you want the more it will suck the
living space out of your phone. However, the upside is that you don't use
data. The downside is the space it consumes and the map and POI can get
outdated quicker. It is also very expensive. There a lot of people that love
this GPS program.

MotionX is very nice because the Map and the Search are quite up to date.
However, the downside is that it uses data. I'll be honest I don't know how
much. So if you are tight on the data then Navagon is your choice. I prefer
this one over all of the other apps I've used that are a paid app with a
subscription fee for every year.

There are other GPS such as Tom-Tom, Garmin, WASZ, MyWay and etc.

Don't forget that if you have the iPhone 4s or might be getting the iPhone
5. That the IOS 6 will have a whole brand new Map App. It will be accessible
and will offer turn-by-turn navigation for free. So before you shell out
those big bucks. Think twice because this is coming down the pipe. Poor
souls of Navagon, MotionX, Garmin and etc. that are a paid app with
subscription. They will soon disappear unless the new IOS 6 Map App doesn't
live up to expectation. Too soon to know!

Those with the iPhone 3gs and the iPhone 4 then you will be safe in
purchasing those expensive GPS apps. The IOS 6 Map will not offer the
turn-by-turn to those devices. :(

Regards,
AnonyMouse



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the blind
are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the population. I'd also
claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might be useful to someone
else, even though they don't care for it themselves, is also exhibiting some
narrow mindedness.

I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and since
it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else, except for
YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still looking at it. I
would never think to call someone else who doesn't like MapQuest to be
narrow minded though.

Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so people
can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness if people
end up liking different options.

On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  
 They think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems 
 with this app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main 
 apps
I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type 
 in the business name and most of the time I am going to the closest 
 one in the list.  Navigone used to be good, but it didn't even get my 
 route right the last time I used it for a route that I really needed 
 it
for.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Bresnahan
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Hi,
 
 Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of 
 interest database, that's sort of like complaining about a car because 
 they don't make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS app is in 
 route navigation and directions.  If you enter an address, navigon 
 does a great job of getting you there.  I've never had issues with it 
 getting me from point A to point B.
 
 If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering 
 user interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, 
 despite the other post to the contrary, I've found the POI database 
 fine for my needs, and since it integrates with around me, and I can 
 send POIs directly to navigon from there, finding a point of interest 
 is
quite easy.
 
 Also, if you can't stand 

RE: OT MacBook

2012-08-08 Thread Mary-Jo Lord
I tried to join that list around a week ago.  I just got mine a week and a
half ago and think I need a tutorial called Mac for Morons or something.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:46 PM
To: viphone
Subject: OT MacBook

I recently purchased a MacBook Air and have requested to join a listserv but
my request is pending.  I have a question about VO on the computer and would
appreciate someone with knowledge about VO contacting me off list.

Marianne Denning

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Re: OT MacBook

2012-08-08 Thread Marianne Denning
I have really been doing pretty well but there a couple of things that
baffle me.  It is really different than Windows and JAWS.

On 8/8/12, Mary-Jo Lord maryjo.lord...@gmail.com wrote:
 I tried to join that list around a week ago.  I just got mine a week and a
 half ago and think I need a tutorial called Mac for Morons or something.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:46 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: OT MacBook

 I recently purchased a MacBook Air and have requested to join a listserv
 but
 my request is pending.  I have a question about VO on the computer and
 would
 appreciate someone with knowledge about VO contacting me off list.

 Marianne Denning

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread AnonyMouse
Hello,

You are quite welcome!

There is one more thing to note. Somebody had made a great point.

Depending where you live and where you go will make a huge difference. If
Navagon will be the only GPS program that will work in a non-data area or
dead spot. All other GPS program that I am aware of will fail to work.

It is a hard decision. I know. So if you hike, go off roading, or go to an
isolated area and need a GPS then the Navagon is your bet. If not, I really
would look at the other alternatives. It really comes down to your budget
and what and where you need it.

Somebody mentioned that Navagon that you pay up front and forget. I don't
think that is the case. I could be wrong but you have to pay for the
additional price for keeping those maps you downloaded up to date. Correct
me if I am wrong? I thought the update comes out 4 times a year if you paid
for that subscription?

So research everything.

Regards,
AnonyMouse






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michelle McQuigge
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Thanks so much, Anony - this is extremely helpful. It seems this 3gs user
has some research to do! :) 
 

Take care,
Michelle
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of AnonyMouse
Sent: August 8, 2012 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Hello,

The MapQuest has some potential. It isn't perfect but does work. I love the
fact you can enter an address as well give you the ability to select from a
search. I sure wish it had a Favorite to store my locations.

AroundMe is nice if you want something FREE as well. However, this doesn't
give you the ability to enter an address as you would in MapQuest but it is
very easy to use. This app is great if you are walking to a certain business
or shop. It is free and does offer turn-by turn just like the MapQuest and
it also provides Favorites.

Navigon is very large. The more maps you want the more it will suck the
living space out of your phone. However, the upside is that you don't use
data. The downside is the space it consumes and the map and POI can get
outdated quicker. It is also very expensive. There a lot of people that love
this GPS program.

MotionX is very nice because the Map and the Search are quite up to date.
However, the downside is that it uses data. I'll be honest I don't know how
much. So if you are tight on the data then Navagon is your choice. I prefer
this one over all of the other apps I've used that are a paid app with a
subscription fee for every year.

There are other GPS such as Tom-Tom, Garmin, WASZ, MyWay and etc.

Don't forget that if you have the iPhone 4s or might be getting the iPhone
5. That the IOS 6 will have a whole brand new Map App. It will be accessible
and will offer turn-by-turn navigation for free. So before you shell out
those big bucks. Think twice because this is coming down the pipe. Poor
souls of Navagon, MotionX, Garmin and etc. that are a paid app with
subscription. They will soon disappear unless the new IOS 6 Map App doesn't
live up to expectation. Too soon to know!

Those with the iPhone 3gs and the iPhone 4 then you will be safe in
purchasing those expensive GPS apps. The IOS 6 Map will not offer the
turn-by-turn to those devices. :(

Regards,
AnonyMouse



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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the blind
are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the population. I'd also
claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might be useful to someone
else, even though they don't care for it themselves, is also exhibiting some
narrow mindedness.

I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and since
it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else, except for
YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still looking at it. I
would never think to call someone else who doesn't like MapQuest to be
narrow minded though.

Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so people
can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness if people
end up liking different options.

On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  
 They think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems 
 with this app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main 
 apps
I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type 
 in the business name and most of the time I am going to the closest 
 one in the list.  

5 row keyboard tweek

2012-08-08 Thread Damashe Thomas
Hello list,
Can someone give me the name of the cydia tweek that adds a 5th row to the 
on-screen keyboard. I found two, but I seem to remember someone posting that 
there is one that isn't VO accessible.

Thanks

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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Les Kriegler
Yes, they are also developing an App called Seeing Eye, no idea as to when it 
will come out, but it should provide improved functionality for pedestrian 
travelers as it is expected to provide turn by turn instructions and route 
creation.

Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@insightbb.com wrote:

 Does anyone know if Sendero is involved with this app at all and if they plan 
 on producing another GPS app for the iPhone?
 
 Paul
 - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 
 Watch for Looktel Breadcrumbs coming any day now.  It sounds like it's for 
 pedestrian travel primarily.  I have high hopes for this one, as routes can 
 be created and I have confidence that Looktel will produce a solid product. 
 They would have released in July, but they received a couple of suggestions 
 that they decided to implement based on feedback they received at the 
 conventions, so they have to re-submit to Apple for a second approval.  A rep 
 from Looktel said it should be out within a week.
 
 Les
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create routes 
 and you can't get turn by turn directions.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Jordan Gallacher
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
 in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
 really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
 well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
 even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
 I get out of it.
 Jordan
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rob Harris
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
 choices.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 
 Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
 trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 Hi,
 
 I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
 battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
 with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
 and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.
 
 They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.
 
 HTH
 
 Ron
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Musiclady
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
 To: Viphone Email list
 Subject: bone conducting headphones
 
 I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
 Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
 Thanks.
 Steph
 
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RE: 5 row keyboard tweek

2012-08-08 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Damashe,
Look around for iKeywi.

Jon

 

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Of Damashe Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 5 row keyboard tweek

Hello list,
Can someone give me the name of the cydia tweek that adds a 5th row to the
on-screen keyboard. I found two, but I seem to remember someone posting that
there is one that isn't VO accessible.
 
Thanks

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Jordan Gallacher
GPS Drive, Map Quest and Navigone all do.  It depends on how accurate you
want the app to be.
Jordan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michelle McQuigge
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Thank you for this clarification. I've found myself underwhelmed with
Ariadne, especially considering all the hype. I found the map feature to be
unreliable at best. I have very sound orientation when I'm on familiar
ground, and when I've put the app through its paces, the map it presents me
with doesn't always align with what I know to be there. Still, I do love the
concept of an interactive map and have faith the accuracy will improve in
time. In the meantime, though, I am watching this thread with interest.
Which of the many apps currently under discussion *do* provide turn-by-turn
navigation, will alert you when you reach a specific destination etc? I
gather Navigon handles many of these functions? 


Many thanks,
Michelle


I have very sound orientation generally, and the street names it reads out
when I'm testing it in familiar territory have been approximate at best, at
least in my limited experience. I do love the idea of an interactive map,
however  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: August 8, 2012 9:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create routes
and you can't get turn by turn directions.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Jordan Gallacher
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking gps?

Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
I get out of it.
Jordan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking gps?

Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
choices.
- Original Message -
From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones


Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones

Hi,

I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.

They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.

HTH

Ron

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Of Musiclady
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: bone conducting headphones

I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
Thanks.
Steph

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Re: OT MacBook

2012-08-08 Thread David Chittenden
Yep, it is a very different system. First pointer, forget everything you know 
about windows and your former screen reader. 

Next, get your head wrapped around the concept of interacting. Interacting 
tightens your focus in to a specific manipulatable area. You can interact 
multiple times to work your way down layers. For me, interacting was extremely 
confusing to really figure out.

Also, Windows control is not Mac control. On Mac command structure, control, 
option, and command each have specific ways of effecting things. Command, which 
is in the same location as alt in Windows, is the key used for direct 
manipulation. So, command c copies whilst command v pastes. That said, there 
are other command key commands which directly translate from Windows alt, such 
as command tab to switch between open windows on the Mac.

I haven't committed all of the Mac commands and VO commands to memory. Instead, 
I use the touch-pad a lot.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/08/2012, at 14:06, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:

 I have really been doing pretty well but there a couple of things that
 baffle me.  It is really different than Windows and JAWS.
 
 On 8/8/12, Mary-Jo Lord maryjo.lord...@gmail.com wrote:
 I tried to join that list around a week ago.  I just got mine a week and a
 half ago and think I need a tutorial called Mac for Morons or something.
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:46 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: OT MacBook
 
 I recently purchased a MacBook Air and have requested to join a listserv
 but
 my request is pending.  I have a question about VO on the computer and
 would
 appreciate someone with knowledge about VO contacting me off list.
 
 Marianne Denning
 
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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread David Chittenden
Same with TomTom, and none of the apps is more accurate than any other app. 
Differences are when the app is programmed to announce the next instruction, 
and the interface - oh, and which maps the app accesses.


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On 09/08/2012, at 15:06, Jordan Gallacher jgallacher1...@gmail.com wrote:

 GPS Drive, Map Quest and Navigone all do.  It depends on how accurate you
 want the app to be.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michelle McQuigge
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:38 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Thank you for this clarification. I've found myself underwhelmed with
 Ariadne, especially considering all the hype. I found the map feature to be
 unreliable at best. I have very sound orientation when I'm on familiar
 ground, and when I've put the app through its paces, the map it presents me
 with doesn't always align with what I know to be there. Still, I do love the
 concept of an interactive map and have faith the accuracy will improve in
 time. In the meantime, though, I am watching this thread with interest.
 Which of the many apps currently under discussion *do* provide turn-by-turn
 navigation, will alert you when you reach a specific destination etc? I
 gather Navigon handles many of these functions? 
 
 
 Many thanks,
 Michelle
 
 
 I have very sound orientation generally, and the street names it reads out
 when I'm testing it in familiar territory have been approximate at best, at
 least in my limited experience. I do love the idea of an interactive map,
 however  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Andy Baracco
 Sent: August 8, 2012 9:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create routes
 and you can't get turn by turn directions.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jordan Gallacher
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
 in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
 really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
 well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
 even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
 I get out of it.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rob Harris
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
 choices.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 
 Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
 trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 Hi,
 
 I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
 battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
 with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
 and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.
 
 They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.
 
 HTH
 
 Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Musiclady
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
 To: Viphone Email list
 Subject: bone conducting headphones
 
 I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
 Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
 Thanks.
 Steph
 
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5 row keyboard tweek

2012-08-08 Thread Damashe Thomas
Hello list,
Can someone give me the name of the cydia tweek that adds a 5th row to the 
on-screen keyboard. I found two, but I seem to remember someone posting that 
there is one that isn't VO accessible.

Thanks

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RE: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Michelle and Anthony,

First, pricy is a relative term, I don't think $40 to $60 is all that much
for a full-featured turn-by-turn GPS solution considering my Trekker Maestro
was $2,000 about 4 or so years ago and a Breeze is still $800 I think. On
top of that the maps as well as POI listings on it were horrible, maybe this
is much better now, but it sure wasn't then. As for buying map updates, you
only have to pay the $20 if you want quarterly map updates and that, by the
way, is $20 for a 2-year period. If you don't pay this you still get map
updates, but only once a year or so.

Secondly, if you go hiking or off-road Navigon is about as good as nothing
because it only has street maps. The only solution of any use for hiking is
something like MyWay Classic or the upcoming BreadCrums app from the
LookTel developers because these apps allow you to set your own points along
a trail and then give you directions as to how you navigate along these
points. BreadCrums, as far as I know, will not have all the maps like
Navigon so I am not sure if it will allow for putting in an address or
searching for a POI and then to have turn-by-turn directions. I think it's
more a competitor to MyWay Classic and will allow a person to enter in a
manual route and then follow that route.

I have heard nothing new about Sendero's full-featured turn-by-turn GPS app
which one would assume would bring Trekker like features to the iPhone.

In the meantime for me a combination of Navigon with Sendero LookAround or
Ariadne does very well.

Of course this may all change in what seems to be mid to late September when
the new iPhone is rumoured to be released and, of course, iOS 6 along with
it and Apple's new maps and built-in turn-by-turn directions. That rumour
about a September 12 announcement does seem to take on more substance and
there is talk about a September 21 release. This is according to Rob from
the Today in iOS podcast and a number of sources he mentioned. If it's true
we all know what's what in 5 weeks.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Re: 5 row keyboard tweek

2012-08-08 Thread jeremy
I've got one called mykey, or something of that sort, it cost a dollar I 
believe it was.

Take care.
On 8/8/2012 5:11 PM, Damashe Thomas wrote:

Hello list,
Can someone give me the name of the cydia tweek that adds a 5th row to the 
on-screen keyboard. I found two, but I seem to remember someone posting that 
there is one that isn't VO accessible.

Thanks



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Re: 5 row keyboard tweek

2012-08-08 Thread jeremy

Oops, I think that's the one I was thinking of. My mistake. LOL
Anyways, costs around a dollar if it's the same one and completely worth 
it, in my opinion.

Take care.

On 8/8/2012 9:58 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:

Hi Damashe,
Look around for iKeywi.

Jon

  


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Hello list,
Can someone give me the name of the cydia tweek that adds a 5th row to the
on-screen keyboard. I found two, but I seem to remember someone posting that
there is one that isn't VO accessible.
  
Thanks


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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread David Chittenden
Around me, Where to, and yellow pages all do this, and all can launch Navigon, 
TomTom, and one or two other GPS apps. When this is done, the address 
information is already in the GPS app, so all you need to do is start 
navigation.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/08/2012, at 12:18, Jordan Gallacher jgallacher1...@gmail.com wrote:

 No.  Navigone has Points of Interest such as restaurants, hotels etc.  GPS
 Drive is nice because you can type in the exact business name and it will
 pull up a list of all the businesses matching that search.  It searches the
 internet to find the business and the list starts with the business closest
 to you.  Unlimited data sure is nice to have, and I am glad to still have
 it.  That is the down side to this app.  
 Jordan 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:11 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 Since I don't have much experience with any of these, do you always have to
 put in an address as a destination? 
 
 Reggie and Brooks
 
 
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the blind
 are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the population. I'd also
 claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might be useful to someone
 else, even though they don't care for it themselves, is also exhibiting some
 narrow mindedness.
 
 I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
 experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and since
 it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else, except for
 YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still looking at it. I
 would never think to call someone else who doesn't like MapQuest to be
 narrow minded though.
 
 Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so people
 can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness if people
 end up liking different options.
 
 On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  
 They think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems 
 with this app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main apps
 I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type 
 in the business name and most of the time I am going to the closest 
 one in the list.  Navigone used to be good, but it didn't even get my 
 route right the last time I used it for a route that I really needed it
 for.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Bresnahan
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Hi,
 
 Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of 
 interest database, that's sort of like complaining about a car because 
 they don't make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS app is in 
 route navigation and directions.  If you enter an address, navigon 
 does a great job of getting you there.  I've never had issues with it 
 getting me from point A to point B.
 
 If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering 
 user interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, 
 despite the other post to the contrary, I've found the POI database 
 fine for my needs, and since it integrates with around me, and I can 
 send POIs directly to navigon from there, finding a point of interest is
 quite easy.
 
 Also, if you can't stand address entry, the third party app called 
 Navigon Now, can make that part simple too.
 
 
 So, if there are other issues with Navigon beyond it didn't have the 
 one point of interest I happened to be looking for, then by all means, 
 bring itt up an dlet's discuss.
 
 --Scott
 Prayer: begging a god to reconsider its plan.
 
 
 
 Hi Jordan,
 
 I think statements like Navigon is crap should always be avoided, 
 Navigon works extremely well for a lot of people and by that I do 
 mean blind or visually impaired people using Voiceover. I used 
 Navigon every day during a vacation on Maui in March and it worked 
 flawlessly every time and the information it had including 
 restaurants and POI's was very accurate. Based on good reviews on 
 here I recently tried Motion X GPS Drive and found it much more 
 difficult to use than Navigon, but I won't say it resembles fecal 
 matter because I am sure that with more practice it's quite usable. I 
 personally prefer paying upfront instead of an annual subscription 
 and as far as I know you also need a data connection for Motion X 
 whereas navigon maps are downloaded to the phone and since I don't 
 necessarily have a data 

Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread David Chittenden
Sendero is not involved with this app. Sendero has teamed up with the Seeing 
Eye (the Seeing Eye is paying the development costs) and developing the Seeing 
Eye GPS app.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/08/2012, at 13:35, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@insightbb.com wrote:

 Does anyone know if Sendero is involved with this app at all and if they plan 
 on producing another GPS app for the iPhone?
 
 Paul
 - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 
 Watch for Looktel Breadcrumbs coming any day now.  It sounds like it's for 
 pedestrian travel primarily.  I have high hopes for this one, as routes can 
 be created and I have confidence that Looktel will produce a solid product. 
 They would have released in July, but they received a couple of suggestions 
 that they decided to implement based on feedback they received at the 
 conventions, so they have to re-submit to Apple for a second approval.  A rep 
 from Looktel said it should be out within a week.
 
 Les
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create routes 
 and you can't get turn by turn directions.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Jordan Gallacher
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
 in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
 really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
 well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
 even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
 I get out of it.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rob Harris
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:58 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 Lots of apps of this for your iPhone,  Ariadne or Navigon being  the first
 choices.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:05 PM
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 
 Hi if I may ask are there any talking gps devices for blind other than the
 trecker that are a cheaper price as I am looking for one thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: bone conducting headphones
 
 Hi,
 
 I have the After Shokz which I find great.  They are rechargeable and the
 battery lasts a long time.  You recharge them in a USB port.  I use them
 with my Trekker as well as my IPhone.  You can get a model with microphone
 and one without and there is only $10 difference in price.
 
 They are not blue tooth and, right now, I don't know of any that are.
 
 HTH
 
 Ron
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Musiclady
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:38 AM
 To: Viphone Email list
 Subject: bone conducting headphones
 
 I seem te recall some one had some of these? What were they like?
 Which ones did you have, and do they use bluetoth.
 Thanks.
 Steph
 
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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread David Chittenden
Navigon and TomTom both do and are both accessible. That said:

People continue having a very bad misconception about GPS. First, GPS uses a 
database. The database has coordinates for streets and intersections, but 
unless mild turns and swerves are properly plotted with coordinates in the 
database, the app will draw a straight line. Maps are always being updated, and 
commercial apps do not charge, or charge very little for these updates. And, if 
you pay the slight charge, your database will be updated every quarter. If not, 
your database will be updated annually. Contrast this with the blindness 
specific GPS products where you get an annual update for a cost which is higher 
than the total purchase price of any of these apps, and that is an annual 
expense.

Also, in most cases, the actual GPS coordinates for each address are not in the 
database. Instead, the database has the starting address, the ending address, 
and the number of addresses in the block. Therefore, the announcement activates 
when you are a percentage distance down the block that represents where your 
address would be if all addresses are equal distance from each other. In other 
words, if there are 10 addresses on the block and you are going to the fifth 
address, the system will alert when you are half way down the block. However, 
if any address takes up more than 10% of the distance, you will not find the 
correct address just by using the GPS system - and this is the same whether you 
are using a blindness specific system or a normal system.

Then, there is the accuracy factor. At its best, GPS can be accurate to 5 
metres (15 feet). Therefore, given that the front of an address can easily be 
shorter than this distance, all GPS systems will only get you close to your 
desired destination. You need good orientation and mobility skills to find the 
actual location. And, if accuracy is more toward average, the area is within 10 
metres (30 feet). Oh, and this means you are anywhere within that circle, not 
at the centre of it.

GPS accuracy is effected by any obsticles that may block the signal (such as 
buildings, trees, or even clouds and other weather conditions. On an extremely 
overcast day last year, my GPS was unable to give me accuracy any better than 
500 metres (about 1600 feet). It kept placing me in different towns, and I was 
standing still watching the display change. It was quite fascinating.

I would not trust GPS to get me to my exact destination anymore than I would 
trust a cane to alert me of any obstacles that are higher than my lower 
abdomen. So, does this mean I would not use a cane if something happens to my 
guide dog? Now that would be silly. I just keep in mind the limitations of the 
cane, and do not expect it to do more than it is capable of doing.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/08/2012, at 13:37, Michelle McQuigge michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Thank you for this clarification. I've found myself underwhelmed with
 Ariadne, especially considering all the hype. I found the map feature to be
 unreliable at best. I have very sound orientation when I'm on familiar
 ground, and when I've put the app through its paces, the map it presents me
 with doesn't always align with what I know to be there. Still, I do love the
 concept of an interactive map and have faith the accuracy will improve in
 time. In the meantime, though, I am watching this thread with interest.
 Which of the many apps currently under discussion *do* provide turn-by-turn
 navigation, will alert you when you reach a specific destination etc? I
 gather Navigon handles many of these functions? 
 
 
 Many thanks,
 Michelle
 
 
 I have very sound orientation generally, and the street names it reads out
 when I'm testing it in familiar territory have been approximate at best, at
 least in my limited experience. I do love the idea of an interactive map,
 however  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Andy Baracco
 Sent: August 8, 2012 9:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 Ariadne is good, but it is only an orientation ap.  You can't create routes
 and you can't get turn by turn directions.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jordan Gallacher
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Ariande is good.  Navigone is crap.  I tried it when going to an appointment
 in New Orleans, and it did not see the medical establishment.  Oschner is
 really big, and it has expanded to several other locations in the state as
 well.  I would avoid Navigone at all costs.  Motion X GPS Drive is great
 even though there is a subscription fee, which really is not bad for the use
 I get out of it.
 Jordan
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 

Re: Suggestions for an accessible diary/journal app

2012-08-08 Thread Damashe Thomas

Hello,
A friend of mine is using an app called my secret diary. She says it was 
accessible and it is a free app. Here is the link to the appStore.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/my-secret-diary/id382008409?mt=8ls=1
Sorry if the link wraps.
- Original Message - 
From: Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:03 PM
Subject: Suggestions for an accessible diary/journal app



Can anyone suggest an accessible diary or journal app for my iPhone that I
can use while I'm on holidays. I'm going overseas with my husband for a 
few
weeks and I want to be able to write down what I'm doing as I'm 
travelling.

I don't know if if it is possible that in the app there is an option to
email my entries to me. Thanks for anyone's help.

Margaret


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Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread David Chittenden
This is because turn by turn is provided by Siri, and you need at least a 4S 
for Siri. This also means, you will be using more data, though, apparently not 
as much as Motion GPS requires. According to an article I read last year, 
Motion uses multiple megabytes of data per trip.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/08/2012, at 13:58, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 The MapQuest has some potential. It isn't perfect but does work. I love the
 fact you can enter an address as well give you the ability to select from a
 search. I sure wish it had a Favorite to store my locations.
 
 AroundMe is nice if you want something FREE as well. However, this doesn't
 give you the ability to enter an address as you would in MapQuest but it is
 very easy to use. This app is great if you are walking to a certain business
 or shop. It is free and does offer turn-by turn just like the MapQuest and
 it also provides Favorites.
 
 Navigon is very large. The more maps you want the more it will suck the
 living space out of your phone. However, the upside is that you don't use
 data. The downside is the space it consumes and the map and POI can get
 outdated quicker. It is also very expensive. There a lot of people that love
 this GPS program.
 
 MotionX is very nice because the Map and the Search are quite up to date.
 However, the downside is that it uses data. I'll be honest I don't know how
 much. So if you are tight on the data then Navagon is your choice. I prefer
 this one over all of the other apps I've used that are a paid app with a
 subscription fee for every year.
 
 There are other GPS such as Tom-Tom, Garmin, WASZ, MyWay and etc.
 
 Don't forget that if you have the iPhone 4s or might be getting the iPhone
 5. That the IOS 6 will have a whole brand new Map App. It will be accessible
 and will offer turn-by-turn navigation for free. So before you shell out
 those big bucks. Think twice because this is coming down the pipe. Poor
 souls of Navagon, MotionX, Garmin and etc. that are a paid app with
 subscription. They will soon disappear unless the new IOS 6 Map App doesn't
 live up to expectation. Too soon to know!
 
 Those with the iPhone 3gs and the iPhone 4 then you will be safe in
 purchasing those expensive GPS apps. The IOS 6 Map will not offer the
 turn-by-turn to those devices. :(
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:52 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the blind
 are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the population. I'd also
 claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might be useful to someone
 else, even though they don't care for it themselves, is also exhibiting some
 narrow mindedness.
 
 I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
 experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and since
 it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else, except for
 YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still looking at it. I
 would never think to call someone else who doesn't like MapQuest to be
 narrow minded though.
 
 Choice is good, and it's good that we have different options here so people
 can find and use what works for them. It's not narrow mindedness if people
 end up liking different options.
 
 On 08/08/12 16:35, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
 That is the trouble most blind people.  They are narrow minded.  .  
 They think only one thing is the best.  I have stated other problems 
 with this app in the past.  Ariande, GPS Drive, Hop Stop are the main apps
 I use.
 Heck with GPS Drive I don't even have to enter an address.  Just type 
 in the business name and most of the time I am going to the closest 
 one in the list.  Navigone used to be good, but it didn't even get my 
 route right the last time I used it for a route that I really needed it
 for.
 Jordan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Bresnahan
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Hi,
 
 Seconded.  If your major complaint with Navigon is the point of 
 interest database, that's sort of like complaining about a car because 
 they don't make it in the color you want.  The key to a GPS app is in 
 route navigation and directions.  If you enter an address, navigon 
 does a great job of getting you there.  I've never had issues with it 
 getting me from point A to point B.
 
 If I have a complaint about navigon, it's in the destination entering 
 user interface.  That definately requires some practice time.  But, 
 despite the other post to the contrary, I've found the POI 

Re: Talking gps?

2012-08-08 Thread David Chittenden
Navigon and TomTom are the same in regards to they store the maps database on 
your phone, they are both accessible, and they both have a quarterly map update 
or annual free map update.

I prefer TomTom's interface. The only problem is that, when walking, TomTom has 
the announcement trigger set to around 20 metres (65 feet) whilst Navigon has 
the trigger set to 5 metres (16 feet).


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/08/2012, at 14:10, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 You are quite welcome!
 
 There is one more thing to note. Somebody had made a great point.
 
 Depending where you live and where you go will make a huge difference. If
 Navagon will be the only GPS program that will work in a non-data area or
 dead spot. All other GPS program that I am aware of will fail to work.
 
 It is a hard decision. I know. So if you hike, go off roading, or go to an
 isolated area and need a GPS then the Navagon is your bet. If not, I really
 would look at the other alternatives. It really comes down to your budget
 and what and where you need it.
 
 Somebody mentioned that Navagon that you pay up front and forget. I don't
 think that is the case. I could be wrong but you have to pay for the
 additional price for keeping those maps you downloaded up to date. Correct
 me if I am wrong? I thought the update comes out 4 times a year if you paid
 for that subscription?
 
 So research everything.
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michelle McQuigge
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Thanks so much, Anony - this is extremely helpful. It seems this 3gs user
 has some research to do! :) 
 
 
 Take care,
 Michelle
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of AnonyMouse
 Sent: August 8, 2012 9:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Talking gps?
 
 Hello,
 
 The MapQuest has some potential. It isn't perfect but does work. I love the
 fact you can enter an address as well give you the ability to select from a
 search. I sure wish it had a Favorite to store my locations.
 
 AroundMe is nice if you want something FREE as well. However, this doesn't
 give you the ability to enter an address as you would in MapQuest but it is
 very easy to use. This app is great if you are walking to a certain business
 or shop. It is free and does offer turn-by turn just like the MapQuest and
 it also provides Favorites.
 
 Navigon is very large. The more maps you want the more it will suck the
 living space out of your phone. However, the upside is that you don't use
 data. The downside is the space it consumes and the map and POI can get
 outdated quicker. It is also very expensive. There a lot of people that love
 this GPS program.
 
 MotionX is very nice because the Map and the Search are quite up to date.
 However, the downside is that it uses data. I'll be honest I don't know how
 much. So if you are tight on the data then Navagon is your choice. I prefer
 this one over all of the other apps I've used that are a paid app with a
 subscription fee for every year.
 
 There are other GPS such as Tom-Tom, Garmin, WASZ, MyWay and etc.
 
 Don't forget that if you have the iPhone 4s or might be getting the iPhone
 5. That the IOS 6 will have a whole brand new Map App. It will be accessible
 and will offer turn-by-turn navigation for free. So before you shell out
 those big bucks. Think twice because this is coming down the pipe. Poor
 souls of Navagon, MotionX, Garmin and etc. that are a paid app with
 subscription. They will soon disappear unless the new IOS 6 Map App doesn't
 live up to expectation. Too soon to know!
 
 Those with the iPhone 3gs and the iPhone 4 then you will be safe in
 purchasing those expensive GPS apps. The IOS 6 Map will not offer the
 turn-by-turn to those devices. :(
 
 Regards,
 AnonyMouse
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:52 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Talking gps?
 
 I don't think most blind people are narrow minded. I don't think the blind
 are any more or less narrow minded than the rest of the population. I'd also
 claim that someone who can't see that NaviGon might be useful to someone
 else, even though they don't care for it themselves, is also exhibiting some
 narrow mindedness.
 
 I myself am partial to MapQuest from AoL, but I don't have a lot of
 experience with other apps. I tried MapQuest, since it was free, and since
 it's done everything I wanted to, I haven't look at much else, except for
 YellowPages, which I don't like as much, although I'm still looking at it. I
 would never think to call someone 

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