Where is the "send" button?

[Jewel]

I know where it used to be, but I have just created a gmail account for my 5S 
iPhone, and I cannot 
find "send" anywhere.  I am sure that it must be lurking in some corner, but 
just where that corner 
might be is eluding me.

  Jewel
 

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Re: "Location tracking on" is back again

[Shai]

Hi,
The setting that Mark suggested was to disable background app refresh.
This can be found in settings/general/background app refresh. He
mentioned that toggling it to off should remedy your location always
tracking issue in the status bar.
Hope that helps



On 8/27/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location
> tracking being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't using nor did I
> have running any app that had permission to use location services. Mark
> helpful he suggested some setting that I needed to change, which seemed to
> solve the problem. The problem is back with a vengeance. And I can't
> remember what the setting was. Can anyone refresh my memory?
> Mary
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Re: "Location tracking on" is back again

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

This might be one of the settings under system settings within location 
services.  There are things like cellular services wanting to use location 
services, wifi wanting to use this, traffic routing wanting to use it.  Might 
it have been one of those?

Jan Kleinhans
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  From: Donna 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:24 AM
  Subject: Re: "Location tracking on" is back again


  If you go to settings, privacy, location services you can turn off any of 
your apps that you don't to use your location. 


  Donna


No. Turning off location services means no apps ever get location 
information. That is not the way to go if you have GPS apps for instants or 
other applications, maybe a local news application or whatever, that need your 
location. Even the weather app needs your location. This was something probably 
under privacy.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:47 PM, rajmund  wrote:


  Hi, turn off location services?

  Sent from my iPhone 5S

  On 27 Aug 2016, at 5:16 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:


Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location 
tracking being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't using nor did I 
have running any app that had permission to use location services. Mark helpful 
he suggested some setting that I needed to change, which seemed to solve the 
problem. The problem is back with a vengeance. And I can't remember what the 
setting was. Can anyone refresh my memory?
Mary


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Re: update on my sound problem

[englishrider91]

I think that turning off the setting I spoke about earlier should do the trick. 
I think it's called always speak notifications.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I think this would work. I'll just have to remember after the meeting 
> that I toggled off VoiceOver. I wouldn't be surprised if I forget the first 
> few times and reset my phone thinking VoiceOver was hung.
> 
> Ideally, I'd like VoiceOver to respect the mute switch for all automatic 
> notifications. I'd still like VoiceOver to talk to me when I'm actually 
> interacting with the phone, even if the mute switch is on.
> 
>> On 27/08/16 10:45, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
>> I usually just turn on the Mute switch and then 3-finger double tap to turn 
>> off speech. Vibrations still come through.
>> 
>> Wouldn't this do what you describe below as desirable?
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:40 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: update on my sound problem
>> 
>> I always wanted the mute switch, when activated, to turn off all sounds 
>> generated by alerts and notifications, including VoiceOver, and this is how 
>> it worked for me for a very short period of time, maybe a few months with 
>> IOS 7. I'm not sure how Apple intended this to work though, and I've always 
>> found it to be inconsistent. This has always been a bit frustrating for me 
>> since I want to have my phone on in meetings, so I can step out when I get a 
>> notification that I'm expecting, but still have it silent so it doesn't 
>> interrupt the meeting. I also want to be able to toggle this behavior on and 
>> off and not have to go down a settings tree to find this switch. I must 
>> admit that after a year or so of not being able to figure out what 
>> combination of settings would get me the behavior I wanted, even through IOS 
>> updates, I kind of gave up trying, and I think I need to go back and give 
>> Ari's suggestion another chance.
>> 
>>> On 26/08/16 15:20, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> I have my phone set to this specific VoiceOver setting, and have found
>>> that it too can be inconsistent at times. Another option to allow
>>> notifications but not be alerted by them is to mute the sounds from
>>> the phone, and also do a 3 finger double tap on the screen. This will
>>> mute speech. This way, you still get notifications but they aren't
>>> spoken and no sound comes through. I use this a lot when taking a nap
>>> or in a movie. I still get all my notices but only have to worry about
>>> the vibrations coming through. This would be an option if you did not
>>> want to turn Do Not Disturb on but you wanted to not be alerted by
>>> voice or sound when getting a notification. Perhaps there is no one
>>> perfect solution in this situation.
>>> 
>>> JMt,
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 8/25/16, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
 
 I think this may help me too Ary. Thanks.
 
 reggie & Lex
 
 On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alan, if I understand your message correctly, you want to have
 VoiceOver not speak notifications, but get a vibration when you
 receive one and your mute switch is turned on. If this is the case,
 you want to turn off the setting called always speak notifications in
 settings/general/accessibility/VoiceOver.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Regina,
> 
> FYI, my iPhone 6 running iOS 9.3.4 is often inconsistent with
> announcing notifications when I have my phone muted. It seems like
> the quieter it is in a meeting when I have the phone muted that
> VoiceOver blasts out the notification. It is supposed to vibrate
> when a notification comes in and the phone is muted but I'm also 
> experiencing your issue inconsistently.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: update on my sound problem
> 
> 
> I tried muting my phone on a phone call. I still got notifications.
> Reading this article I am led to believe it will stop notifications
> and only vibrate if enabled.  I think I am having brain block about
> these features. [smiles)
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain
> 
> wrote:
> 
> Do not disturb and the mute switch are a bit different. Mute
> silences the sounds from your phone and is on until you switch it off.
> 
> Do not disturb can be set up on a schedule, and it can be
> customized, so for example, you can have the phone ring if anyone in
> your favorites calls you bu

Re: E-Mail Client

[englishrider91]

Holy cow! I just tried it, and you're right! Awesome! I hope I can still do 
something like this in iOS 10 when the new interface comes out. Call me weird, 
but I like having to go into the thread to read email, then back out of it to 
go to the next thread. I'm the type of person (when I actually ever use the 
computer for email these days) opens the message/thread in a new tab to read 
it. That way I can keep my place in the inbox or folder that I'm in, then just 
reply to the message in that new tab, then close the tab and go on my way with 
the next, email.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> From my experience, you don't need to find anything when the new message is 
> pulled up on your screen, just do a two finger swipe up and it'll start 
> reading from the beginning of the message. Note this doesn't work if the 
> beginning of the message doesn't appear on the first screen, such as when you 
> have a very long list of recipients. This doesn't have anything to do with 
> containers. I think it's just a tweak built into VoiceOver for the Mail app. 
> I prefer this behavior, since I seldom want to automatically read the headers.
> 
>> On 27/08/16 17:55, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> This new mail interface sounds like it'll be confusing. Right now, I
>> like being able to find the person's name, then do a two-finger flick up
>> to read the message content. For some reason that I don't understand,
>> this behaves differently in the mail app than anywhere else in iOS. This
>> gesture is supposed to read the entire screen, but when done in the mail
>> app once on the person's name, it skips the header information and just
>> reads the message. Not that I'm complaining about that or anything; it's
>> just odd. Maybe it has something to do with these container things in
>> iOS? I don't have that setting in my rotor, but maybe it still counts as
>> a container even if that option isn't on your rotor. Anyway, I think I'm
>> going to find this new mail interface rather annoying. I'm going to read
>> Jonathan Mosen's iOS 10 Without the Eye first before updating, as well
>> as listen to the podcasts released by AppleVis.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it works fine, but Gordan said he didn’t like having it on.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:25 AM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* RE: E-Mail Client
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, this can still be turned off in Mail settings as always although
>>> it works beautifully.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:08 AM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: E-Mail Client
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in
>>> iOS 10.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>Hi!
>>> 
>>>There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new
>>>in incoming iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in
>>>Mail app is not separated by message as it was till now. Now it is
>>>more like conversation view similar to text and iMessages and
>>>there is a new option in rotor called "message" which will enable
>>>you to switch between messages in conversation.
>>> 
>>>I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate
>>>messages and that's why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like
>>>threads and I'm using it only for some mail groups I'm subscribed to.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>S poštovanjem
>>>*Gordan Radić* 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com
>>> je napisao/la:
>>> 
>>>What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the
>>>mail app's interface in iOS 10?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Thanks,
>>> 
>>>Ari
>>> 
>>> 
>>>On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>Hi!
>>> 
>>>@Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch
>>>or iPad, it would probably work on all iOS devices.
>>> 
>>>@Mary;

Re: Looking for a list for beta testers who also use VO

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. Matt Dierckens runs a google group called Apple Beta Discussion. You can 
subscribe to it by sending a blank email to 
apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
. Also the same guy 
has a Roger group version of that list. If you have Roger and you'd like to be 
a part of that group, email me privately with your handle on Roger and I'll ask 
him if it's cool that you become a member.

Shawn
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> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> There is a beta list on Google. Don't know the subscribe address though. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> There is a list currently operating.
>> A friend of mine has been waiting over a month to be subscribed.
>> I've written to the owner suggesting that I could set up a list if he is too 
>> busy but have heard nothing and that was weeks ago.
>> 
>> 
>> On 28/08/16 07:52, rajmund wrote:
>>> Hi, I know 2 lists, on of them is his, but I really don't know whether I am 
>>> allowed to give subscription addresses or not.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>> 
>>> On 27 Aug 2016, at 7:20 pm, Christopher Chaltain >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I think Jonathan Mosen has such a list, but I'm not on it, and I couldn't 
 find anything with a quick web search. Maybe knowing this will help you 
 find it.
 
 On 27/08/16 08:53, afik sofir wrote:
> 
> Kimberley,
> If you'll get answer, please let me know.
> My e-mail address is:
> afik.so...@gmail.com  
> >
> 
> 
> ‫ב-27 באוג׳ 2016, בשעה 15:11, ‏‏Kimber Gardner
> ‏mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> 
> >> 
> כתב/ה:‬
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>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Is there a list for iOS beta testers who also use VO?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kimber
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Re: app to announce time every 5 minutes?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Adam. I've never heard of an app that does that, but I've heard of apps that 
can announce time every 15 minutes. The one I use is called Chime and it costs 
I think $.99. Just out of curiosity, why would you want the time to announce 
every 5 minutes?

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> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Adam Morris  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> The subject says it all, looking for an iOS  clock or app that will announce 
> time every 5 minutes?
> 
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Mary Otten]

On the contrary, games definitely benefit from faster processors and better 
graphics. That is games for the cited. I assume that's what you were talking 
about. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> It is four upgrades and the last upgrade lasts for a year so the
> iPhone 7 will likely stop being upgraded in 2021.
> 
> sieghard,
> 
> I have noticed that people use their iPads for far fewer tasks than
> iPhones.  Many use iPads for games, videos, porno, and e-mail.  These
> tasks don't usually benefit from much faster processors.Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/27/16, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> Well, if a person have a working iPhone and are patient and care for
>> technology, there is no problem wait until iPhone 7 is launced. Then that
>> person can compare specifications and size and feel in a store.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>>> 27. aug. 2016 kl. 19.16 skrev Rose Combs :
>>> 
>>> Well I have a 6 bought in September 2014.  Verizon, and, have problems
>>> with dropped calls, keeping connected to network, they say I don't have
>>> problems but I do and no one else does.  Spent a total of about 8 hours
>>> over two weeks on phone with Verizon and minor improvement in dropped
>>> calls,  and last week cousin called, went to voice mail instead of ringing
>>> through and I was right here with phone on desk.  May be time but
>>> hopefully it will work enough for me to see what features are coming that
>>> I may or may not want to use.  Computer connection is only so-so also
>>> despite Century Link telling me it is "perfect" as a cousin says all the
>>> time.  That word and OK are two I am growing rapidly tired of.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rose Combs
>>> roseco...@q.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>> 
>>> Hi Rose, what phone do you have? Which network are you on? Those bar
>>> readings are not all that accurate. There is another way where you can
>>> actually get the true signal reading. But of course, I don't remember what
>>> it is, and it may very from carrier to carrier. If you have an older phone
>>> with an older radio, and your visitors have newer phones, that may account
>>> for the difference, or at least some of it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
 
 If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I
 will decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone
 else he gets full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it
 isn't my phone but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has
 to be wrong somewhere.
 
 
 Rose Combs
 roseco...@q.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
 
 Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with
 an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE
 came out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when
 something goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got
 this reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone
 happy is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows
 Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone
 who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might
 include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't
 think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more
 frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an
 SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this
 fall.
 
> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I
> can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of
> people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they
> do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in
> the past. Smile.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than
>> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do,
>> not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs,
>> so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good
>> choice, should be interesting to see what Apple intro

Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Christopher Chaltain]

Got ya. Do you know if this is documented anywhere? I'd like to see what 
Apple says about this policy. I don't doubt anyone, I'm just curious 
what the Apple legalese says. I've searched for it, but I haven't come 
up with the right set of search terms and been able to find it.


On 27/08/16 22:14, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Christopher,

It is four upgrades and the last upgrade lasts for a year so the
iPhone 7 will likely stop being upgraded in 2021.

sieghard,

I have noticed that people use their iPads for far fewer tasks than
iPhones.  Many use iPads for games, videos, porno, and e-mail.  These
tasks don't usually benefit from much faster processors.Kelly




On 8/27/16, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

Well, if a person have a working iPhone and are patient and care for
technology, there is no problem wait until iPhone 7 is launced. Then that
person can compare specifications and size and feel in a store.

Take care

27. aug. 2016 kl. 19.16 skrev Rose Combs :


Well I have a 6 bought in September 2014.  Verizon, and, have problems
with dropped calls, keeping connected to network, they say I don't have
problems but I do and no one else does.  Spent a total of about 8 hours
over two weeks on phone with Verizon and minor improvement in dropped
calls,  and last week cousin called, went to voice mail instead of ringing
through and I was right here with phone on desk.  May be time but
hopefully it will work enough for me to see what features are coming that
I may or may not want to use.  Computer connection is only so-so also
despite Century Link telling me it is "perfect" as a cousin says all the
time.  That word and OK are two I am growing rapidly tired of.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Hi Rose, what phone do you have? Which network are you on? Those bar
readings are not all that accurate. There is another way where you can
actually get the true signal reading. But of course, I don't remember what
it is, and it may very from carrier to carrier. If you have an older phone
with an older radio, and your visitors have newer phones, that may account
for the difference, or at least some of it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:

If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I
will decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone
else he gets full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it
isn't my phone but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has
to be wrong somewhere.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with
an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE
came out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when
something goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got
this reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone
happy is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows
Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone
who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might
include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't
think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more
frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an
SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this
fall.


On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I
can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of
people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they
do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in
the past. Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than
likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do,
not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs,
so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good
choice, should be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
Original message:

Hello Christine,



Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to
say, you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of
iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released
before using your upgrade privileges.



Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@

Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Kelly Pierce]

Christopher,

It is four upgrades and the last upgrade lasts for a year so the
iPhone 7 will likely stop being upgraded in 2021.

sieghard,

I have noticed that people use their iPads for far fewer tasks than
iPhones.  Many use iPads for games, videos, porno, and e-mail.  These
tasks don't usually benefit from much faster processors.Kelly




On 8/27/16, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> Well, if a person have a working iPhone and are patient and care for
> technology, there is no problem wait until iPhone 7 is launced. Then that
> person can compare specifications and size and feel in a store.
>
> Take care
>
> 27. aug. 2016 kl. 19.16 skrev Rose Combs :
>>
>> Well I have a 6 bought in September 2014.  Verizon, and, have problems
>> with dropped calls, keeping connected to network, they say I don't have
>> problems but I do and no one else does.  Spent a total of about 8 hours
>> over two weeks on phone with Verizon and minor improvement in dropped
>> calls,  and last week cousin called, went to voice mail instead of ringing
>> through and I was right here with phone on desk.  May be time but
>> hopefully it will work enough for me to see what features are coming that
>> I may or may not want to use.  Computer connection is only so-so also
>> despite Century Link telling me it is "perfect" as a cousin says all the
>> time.  That word and OK are two I am growing rapidly tired of.
>>
>>
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>
>> Hi Rose, what phone do you have? Which network are you on? Those bar
>> readings are not all that accurate. There is another way where you can
>> actually get the true signal reading. But of course, I don't remember what
>> it is, and it may very from carrier to carrier. If you have an older phone
>> with an older radio, and your visitors have newer phones, that may account
>> for the difference, or at least some of it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>>>
>>> If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I
>>> will decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone
>>> else he gets full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it
>>> isn't my phone but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has
>>> to be wrong somewhere.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rose Combs
>>> roseco...@q.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>>
>>> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with
>>> an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE
>>> came out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when
>>> something goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got
>>> this reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone
>>> happy is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows
>>> Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone
>>> who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might
>>> include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't
>>> think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more
>>> frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an
>>> SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this
>>> fall.
>>>
 On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
 Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I
 can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of
 people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they
 do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in
 the past. Smile.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>
> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than
> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do,
> not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs,
> so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good
> choice, should be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
> Original message:
>> Hello Christine,
>
>> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to
>> say, you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of
>> iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released
>> before using your upgrade privileges.
>
>> Mark
>
>> -Original

Re: app to announce time every 5 minutes?

[kg7fa2]

Hi Adam, I have an app called Voice Clock, or possibly Voice Over Clock,
and it has several options for automatic announcement.

HTH:
John


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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Terje Strømberg]

Well, if a person have a working iPhone and are patient and care for 
technology, there is no problem wait until iPhone 7 is launced. Then that 
person can compare specifications and size and feel in a store.

Take care

27. aug. 2016 kl. 19.16 skrev Rose Combs :
> 
> Well I have a 6 bought in September 2014.  Verizon, and, have problems with 
> dropped calls, keeping connected to network, they say I don't have problems 
> but I do and no one else does.  Spent a total of about 8 hours over two weeks 
> on phone with Verizon and minor improvement in dropped calls,  and last week 
> cousin called, went to voice mail instead of ringing through and I was right 
> here with phone on desk.  May be time but hopefully it will work enough for 
> me to see what features are coming that I may or may not want to use.  
> Computer connection is only so-so also despite Century Link telling me it is 
> "perfect" as a cousin says all the time.  That word and OK are two I am 
> growing rapidly tired of.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> 
> Hi Rose, what phone do you have? Which network are you on? Those bar readings 
> are not all that accurate. There is another way where you can actually get 
> the true signal reading. But of course, I don't remember what it is, and it 
> may very from carrier to carrier. If you have an older phone with an older 
> radio, and your visitors have newer phones, that may account for the 
> difference, or at least some of it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I will 
>> decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone else he 
>> gets full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it isn't my 
>> phone but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has to be wrong 
>> somewhere.  
>> 
>> 
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>> 
>> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with 
>> an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE 
>> came out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when 
>> something goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got 
>> this reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone 
>> happy is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows 
>> Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone 
>> who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might 
>> include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't 
>> think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more 
>> frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an 
>> SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
>> 
>>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
>>> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who 
>>> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that 
>>> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
 This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
 likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
 sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
 you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should 
 be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
 Original message:
> Hello Christine,
 
> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
> you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, 
> I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using 
> your upgrade privileges.
 
> Mark
 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
 
>  Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
> iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally vic

Square app for credit card transactions.

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,

Wondering if someone who has used this app can write to me off list at

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Re: Looking for a list for beta testers who also use VO

[Donna]

There is a beta list on Google. Don't know the subscribe address though. 

Donna
> 
> There is a list currently operating.
> A friend of mine has been waiting over a month to be subscribed.
> I've written to the owner suggesting that I could set up a list if he is too 
> busy but have heard nothing and that was weeks ago.
> 
> 
>> On 28/08/16 07:52, rajmund wrote:
>> Hi, I know 2 lists, on of them is his, but I really don't know whether I am 
>> allowed to give subscription addresses or not.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>> 
>> On 27 Aug 2016, at 7:20 pm, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>>> I think Jonathan Mosen has such a list, but I'm not on it, and I couldn't 
>>> find anything with a quick web search. Maybe knowing this will help you 
>>> find it.
>>> 
 On 27/08/16 08:53, afik sofir wrote:
 Kimberley,
 If you'll get answer, please let me know.
 My e-mail address is:
 afik.so...@gmail.com 
 ‫ב-27 באוג׳ 2016, בשעה 15:11, ‏‏Kimber Gardner
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> Hi All,
> Is there a list for iOS beta testers who also use VO?
> Thanks,
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app to announce time every 5 minutes?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,

The subject says it all, looking for an iOS clock or app that will 
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Re: Discounted apps

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Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 5:11 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> I use AppShopper Social by AppShopper.com, LLC. You can search for the name 
> of an app, and then double tap on "I Want It" and you will then get a 
> notification and/or an email when the app either drops in price or when the 
> app has an update, depending on how you prefer to get notified, I have it set 
> up where I get a notification on my device and I also get an email. I have 
> gotten a lot of apps for free with this app that normally cost. You can also 
> double tap on "I Have It" if you already own the app you have searched for 
> and the app will keep track of all of your apps and alert you when there is 
> an update.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Discounted apps
> 
> Hello someone posted information regarding an app that will let you know when 
> apps are either free or offered at a discounted rate. I've been trying to 
> search for the app and have been unable to find it. If anyone knows the name 
> of it can you please repost.
> Thank you
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Could you please explain how to use this app? I downloaded it but I don't 
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Re: Looking for a list for beta testers who also use VO

[Adam Morris]

There is a list currently operating.
A friend of mine has been waiting over a month to be subscribed.
I've written to the owner suggesting that I could set up a list if he is 
too busy but have heard nothing and that was weeks ago.



On 28/08/16 07:52, rajmund wrote:
Hi, I know 2 lists, on of them is his, but I really don't know whether 
I am allowed to give subscription addresses or not.


Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 27 Aug 2016, at 7:20 pm, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:


I think Jonathan Mosen has such a list, but I'm not on it, and I 
couldn't find anything with a quick web search. Maybe knowing this 
will help you find it.


On 27/08/16 08:53, afik sofir wrote:


Kimberley,
If you'll get answer, please let me know.
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Re: How do I change a paid subscription

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No problem. Always glad to help.

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On your iPhone settings, go to iTunes and App Store. Then go to your Apple ID 
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[Mary Otten]

Now that we are so close to the release of iOS 10, I decided to take a flyer on 
the beta using my iPad too. I should say my iPad mini two, since I don't know 
that the iPad 2 is even eligible for this beta, and in any case, I don't have 
an iPad too. So I would like to hear from someone off the list who might be 
able to shed light on the following. I went to the beta site and went to sign 
up with my Apple ID. I very carefully entered my Apple ID and very carefully 
entered my password. I was told either my ID or password was incorrect. I have 
repeated this process twice more being extremely careful each time. And each 
time the result is the same. I have had and used this Apple ID ever since I got 
my first device years ago. And I have never had a problem with it, nor have I 
changed the password. The many hundreds of dollars worth of stuff I bought from 
the various stores attest to the fact that I have had no problem entering my 
password upon request. Smile. I don't think I am missing a step, that is 
something I would have to do before trying to sign up for the beta with my ID. 
I didn't see anything on the first page of the beta site. So can someone who 
has done this please enlighten me as to what I may be doing wrong.
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Can not enter pass code on iPhone

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give suggestions.

 Yesterday I had my iPhone 5 on and when taking Amtrak home charged the 
phone.  When starting to charge it, I noticed that there was not any speech and 
I tried to enter the pass code when the screen reader finally worked.  When 
plugging the phone in to the mac today, it said “iphone disabled” and even last 
night after the speech came on, I could not enter a code.

 The phone is backed up to iTunes but iTunes does not connect to it using 
the mac since I can not enter the pass code.  Calling Apple, I learned that I 
would have to erase the phone and then restore it through iTunes.

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Re: "Location tracking on" is back again

[Mary Otten]

Already done. Before, when I have this problem and posted about it, I had 
already turned off location tracking for any app but didn't obviously need it. 
That left things like the weather app, my local news app, GPS apps. Most things 
don't get to have location services on. Oh, tune in radio and maybe another 
radio program which will show  local stations

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> On Aug 27, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Donna  wrote:
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> If you go to settings, privacy, location services you can turn off any of 
> your apps that you don't to use your location. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> No. Turning off location services means no apps ever get location 
>> information. That is not the way to go if you have GPS apps for instants or 
>> other applications, maybe a local news application or whatever, that need 
>> your location. Even the weather app needs your location. This was something 
>> probably under privacy.
>> Mary
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:47 PM, rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, turn off location services?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>> 
 On 27 Aug 2016, at 5:16 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location 
 tracking being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't using nor did 
 I have running any app that had permission to use location services. Mark 
 helpful he suggested some setting that I needed to change, which seemed to 
 solve the problem. The problem is back with a vengeance. And I can't 
 remember what the setting was. Can anyone refresh my memory?
 Mary
 
 
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Re: E-Mail Client

[Christopher Chaltain]

From my experience, you don't need to find anything when the new 
message is pulled up on your screen, just do a two finger swipe up and 
it'll start reading from the beginning of the message. Note this doesn't 
work if the beginning of the message doesn't appear on the first screen, 
such as when you have a very long list of recipients. This doesn't have 
anything to do with containers. I think it's just a tweak built into 
VoiceOver for the Mail app. I prefer this behavior, since I seldom want 
to automatically read the headers.


On 27/08/16 17:55, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

This new mail interface sounds like it'll be confusing. Right now, I
like being able to find the person's name, then do a two-finger flick up
to read the message content. For some reason that I don't understand,
this behaves differently in the mail app than anywhere else in iOS. This
gesture is supposed to read the entire screen, but when done in the mail
app once on the person's name, it skips the header information and just
reads the message. Not that I'm complaining about that or anything; it's
just odd. Maybe it has something to do with these container things in
iOS? I don't have that setting in my rotor, but maybe it still counts as
a container even if that option isn't on your rotor. Anyway, I think I'm
going to find this new mail interface rather annoying. I'm going to read
Jonathan Mosen's iOS 10 Without the Eye first before updating, as well
as listen to the podcasts released by AppleVis.


Thanks,
Ari

On Aug 27, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Yes, it works fine, but Gordan said he didn’t like having it on.

Richard





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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:25 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: E-Mail Client



Yes, this can still be turned off in Mail settings as always although
it works beautifully.



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:08 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: E-Mail Client





I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in
iOS 10.



Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi!

There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new
in incoming iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in
Mail app is not separated by message as it was till now. Now it is
more like conversation view similar to text and iMessages and
there is a new option in rotor called "message" which will enable
you to switch between messages in conversation.

I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate
messages and that's why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like
threads and I'm using it only for some mail groups I'm subscribed to.



S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić* 

 



 



 



 

27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com
 je napisao/la:

What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the
mail app's interface in iOS 10?





Thanks,

Ari


On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi!

@Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch
or iPad, it would probably work on all iOS devices.

@Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be
a large turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm
looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail on some Android
devices and I like its options, features and tones of
settings for fine tuning its operativity.

I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is
harder to handle than iOS but as you correctly said, it
doesn't have to do anything with the app itself. Regarding
dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google
Speech Input or whatever is it called in English than Siri
Dictation, atleast for my native language.

I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty
similar way so I don't know did you played with Aquamail
settins?

@Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.



S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić* 

 



 

RE: E-Mail Client

[Richard Turner]

That was a specific change made a couple of iOS versions ago for VoiceOver 
users I believe so you didn’t have to hear all the header stuff every time.
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: E-Mail Client

This new mail interface sounds like it'll be confusing. Right now, I like being 
able to find the person's name, then do a two-finger flick up to read the 
message content. For some reason that I don't understand, this behaves 
differently in the mail app than anywhere else in iOS. This gesture is supposed 
to read the entire screen, but when done in the mail app once on the person's 
name, it skips the header information and just reads the message. Not that I'm 
complaining about that or anything; it's just odd. Maybe it has something to do 
with these container things in iOS? I don't have that setting in my rotor, but 
maybe it still counts as a container even if that option isn't on your rotor. 
Anyway, I think I'm going to find this new mail interface rather annoying. I'm 
going to read Jonathan Mosen's iOS 10 Without the Eye first before updating, as 
well as listen to the podcasts released by AppleVis.


Thanks,
Ari

On Aug 27, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Yes, it works fine, but Gordan said he didn’t like having it on.
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: E-Mail Client

Yes, this can still be turned off in Mail settings as always although it works 
beautifully.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: E-Mail Client


I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in iOS 10.

Richard

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić 
mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi!

There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new in incoming 
iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in Mail app is not separated 
by message as it was till now. Now it is more like conversation view similar to 
text and iMessages and there is a new option in rotor called "message" which 
will enable you to switch between messages in conversation.

I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate messages and that's 
why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like threads and I'm using it only for 
some mail groups I'm subscribed to.



S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić









27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com je 
napisao/la:
What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the mail app's 
interface in iOS 10?


Thanks,
Ari

On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić 
mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi!

@Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would 
probably work on all iOS devices.

@Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large turnaround 
in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail 
on some Android devices and I like its options, features and tones of settings 
for fine tuning its operativity.

I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than iOS 
but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app itself. 
Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google Speech Input or 
whatever is it called in English than Siri Dictation, atleast for my native 
language.

I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't 
know did you played with Aquamail settins?

@Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.



S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić









26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:

I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail 
itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. 
I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I 
get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with 
android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get 
around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to

Re: E-Mail Client

[englishrider91]

This new mail interface sounds like it'll be confusing. Right now, I like being 
able to find the person's name, then do a two-finger flick up to read the 
message content. For some reason that I don't understand, this behaves 
differently in the mail app than anywhere else in iOS. This gesture is supposed 
to read the entire screen, but when done in the mail app once on the person's 
name, it skips the header information and just reads the message. Not that I'm 
complaining about that or anything; it's just odd. Maybe it has something to do 
with these container things in iOS? I don't have that setting in my rotor, but 
maybe it still counts as a container even if that option isn't on your rotor. 
Anyway, I think I'm going to find this new mail interface rather annoying. I'm 
going to read Jonathan Mosen's iOS 10 Without the Eye first before updating, as 
well as listen to the podcasts released by AppleVis.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it works fine, but Gordan said he didn’t like having it on.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: E-Mail Client
>  
> Yes, this can still be turned off in Mail settings as always although it 
> works beautifully.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: E-Mail Client
>  
>  
> I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in iOS 10.
>  
> Richard
>  
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new in 
> incoming iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in Mail app is 
> not separated by message as it was till now. Now it is more like conversation 
> view similar to text and iMessages and there is a new option in rotor called 
> "message" which will enable you to switch between messages in conversation.
> 
> I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate messages and 
> that's why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like threads and I'm using it 
> only for some mail groups I'm subscribed to.
> 
>  
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>   
>  
>  
>  
> 27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com je napisao/la:
> What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the mail app's 
> interface in iOS 10?
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would 
> probably work on all iOS devices.
> 
> @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large turnaround 
> in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail 
> on some Android devices and I like its options, features and tones of 
> settings for fine tuning its operativity.
> 
> I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than 
> iOS but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app 
> itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google 
> Speech Input or whatever is it called in English than Siri Dictation, atleast 
> for my native language.
> 
> I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't 
> know did you played with Aquamail settins?
> 
> @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.
> 
>  
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>   
>  
>  
>  
> 26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
> I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
> mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail 
> itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in 
> general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the 
> fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get 
> that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it 
> easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is 
> not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. 
> But that's my two cents.
> Mary
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>  
> I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different 
> methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select 
> and delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's 
> still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and 
> again! 
>  
>  
> It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in my 
> hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a keyboard; 
> but I do kee

Re: How do I change a paid subscription

[Terri Stimmel]

Thank you so very much for your help! I really appreciate it. I did not know it 
was that simple to do. I was able to take care of the subscription I needed to.

Thank you again, and have an awesome evening!

Terri

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

On your iPhone settings, go to iTunes and App Store. Then go to your Apple ID 
and view ID. There you can manage your subscriptions.

Regards,
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On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello everyone,


I paid for a subscription through an ap, and Itunes. I want to cancel
the subscription before I am billed for it.

How would I go about doing this?

Where would I need to go?


Thank you.


Terri

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Re: Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker

[englishrider91]

Yikes, Sieghard! What a price difference! And I do hope the listed weight is 
wrong, as well.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 6:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I looked this up on Amazon.ca and it’s one of these rip-off deals. Robert 
> said it costs $25 in the US on sale for $16, here on Amazon.ca it is listed 
> for $74 + $6 or $8 shipping. It also says in the specs that it weighs 180 
> grams which I find would be way to heavy for me to wear it over a longer 
> period of time. After all, my iPhone 6S Plus only weighs 192 grams which 
> means if the 180 grams is indeed correct and you had a 6S Plus in one hand 
> and this Bluetooth wrist speaker in the other you couldn’t tell the 
> difference and I certainly wouldn’t want something on my wrist that is the 
> weight of my 6S Plus. Robert, if you have a talking kitchen scale, could you 
> weigh it and clarify, I have  a feeling that what Amazon writes is not 
> correct.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
> Subject: Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker
>  
> earlier I saw a post informing us about a wrist band bluetooth speaker by 
> BEM. I found another  on Amazon that worked right out of the box .
>  
> 
> Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker Watch Wireless Speakers Bracelet Wristband 
> Band for Mobile Phones Support MP3 Music Player, FM Radio, Hands-free Calls,
> Self-timer, Anti-Lost Alarm for Sports (White)
> $25.95
> $16.95
> Amazon Prime
>  
> This is accessible right out of the box. From just fumbling with the buttons 
> I had it working and paired in a couple of minutes or less.  Imagine my 
> surprise when it began speaking english although in an Asian accent.
>  
> This is an amazing speaker and you would think that it was made specifically 
> with blind consumers in mind.  
> (Note that my references are for persons who wear their watches on their left 
> arm.)
> On the side closest to your hand there are 4 buttons.  working from the outer 
> wrist to the inner I will number them 1, 2, 3 and 4.   On the arm side is a 
> cover which is protecting the SD card slot and the USB CHARGE PORT.
>  
> Buttons: 
> 1 power/play/answer Hold it in for a count of 3 to turn it on or off. While 
> on and pared press it once to play audio and again to pause. when a call 
> comes in press once to answer.  
>  
> 2.  volume down/track backwards  Hold down to lower volume. When music is 
> playing press once to restart the track press twice quickly to go to the 
> previous track.
>  
> 3. Volume up /track forward  Hold down to raise the volume.  Press once to 
> move to the next track.
>  
> 4. mode  Hold for a count of 4 to toggle between iDevice and FM radio. It 
> will verbably announce radio mode.
>   (note: buttons 2 & 3 move you through the stations.
> SD card slot.  Be sure device is off before inserting or ejecting SD card.  
> when card is in place, ridge side up, power on and it plays immediately.
>  
> charging  Plug USB cable in teeth side down. 
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RE: Fantastical 2

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
In the settings for Fantastical, do you have reminders turned on?

If you want both the month view and reminders if reminders is turned on, the 
upper half of the screen is the month view, then about midway down the screen 
you will find reminders, and below that is each appointment in order.

Or, if you are in the month view, which sounds like you are, touch on the spot 
just below where it says "August 2016" which should be Wednesday, or something 
and then immediately do a three finger swipe down.
That switches to the Day Ticker.

Then, all your appointments will be in a list.

HTH,
Richard


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Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fantastical 2

I bought Fantastical 2 because it sounded great, but how do I go 
directly to a list giving me only my pending appointments?  I can 
find last month, next year, next month ... and all I want to see is 
what is pending.  So far fantastical isn't giving me any more than 
the native calendar.  I'm sure it's user error.  could someone please 
set me straight?

Thanks,

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Re: "Location tracking on" is back again

[Donna]

If you go to settings, privacy, location services you can turn off any of your 
apps that you don't to use your location. 

Donna
> 
> No. Turning off location services means no apps ever get location 
> information. That is not the way to go if you have GPS apps for instants or 
> other applications, maybe a local news application or whatever, that need 
> your location. Even the weather app needs your location. This was something 
> probably under privacy.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:47 PM, rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, turn off location services?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>> 
>>> On 27 Aug 2016, at 5:16 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location 
>>> tracking being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't using nor did I 
>>> have running any app that had permission to use location services. Mark 
>>> helpful he suggested some setting that I needed to change, which seemed to 
>>> solve the problem. The problem is back with a vengeance. And I can't 
>>> remember what the setting was. Can anyone refresh my memory?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: "Location tracking on" is back again

[Mary Otten]

No. Turning off location services means no apps ever get location information. 
That is not the way to go if you have GPS apps for instants or other 
applications, maybe a local news application or whatever, that need your 
location. Even the weather app needs your location. This was something probably 
under privacy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:47 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi, turn off location services?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>> On 27 Aug 2016, at 5:16 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location 
>> tracking being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't using nor did I 
>> have running any app that had permission to use location services. Mark 
>> helpful he suggested some setting that I needed to change, which seemed to 
>> solve the problem. The problem is back with a vengeance. And I can't 
>> remember what the setting was. Can anyone refresh my memory?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Outlook.com

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,

I was wondering if anyone who uses outlook, is having any issues today? For 
some reason, my phone won't alert me of messages, unless I open the app.
Also, I have Windows 7 on my laptop, and are you Thunderbird. It's not updating 
either, unless I ask it to.
Then everyone's in a while, if I am going through the mail on my laptop, I did 
the strange message. I know I can't remember it word from word. But it said 
something like, Thunderbird has had an error, and Dennis says something about 
somebody your messages that you requested might have been lost.
But I don't think I have lost anything. Although it is difficult to know, 
because I don't know all the mail that has come through my list today.

Anyway, I just wondered if anyone else is having a problem? If so, is this 
likely and outlook is you. I would assume so, since I am having a problem and 
you different places

Any help with this would be very much appreciated. I hope it is just an outlook 
issue that will resolve itself. Or there is something I can do to fix it. I 
like my Outlook account. Our use it most of the time, even though I still have 
my Gmail account is back up. But most everything has been switched out look.

Terri
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Re: Looking for a list for beta testers who also use VO

[Ryan Mann]

If people are interested, I could set up a mailing list for this. I am running 
the iOS beta myself.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 5:52 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I know 2 lists, on of them is his, but I really don't know whether I am 
> allowed to give subscription addresses or not.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
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>> On 27 Aug 2016, at 7:20 pm, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> I think Jonathan Mosen has such a list, but I'm not on it, and I couldn't 
>> find anything with a quick web search. Maybe knowing this will help you find 
>> it.
>> 
>>> On 27/08/16 08:53, afik sofir wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kimberley,
>>> If you'll get answer, please let me know.
>>> My e-mail address is:
>>> afik.so...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ‫ב-27 באוג׳ 2016, בשעה 15:11, ‏‏Kimber Gardner
>>> ‏mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:‬
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Re: Looking for a list for beta testers who also use VO

[rajmund]

Hi, I know 2 lists, on of them is his, but I really don't know whether I am 
allowed to give subscription addresses or not.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 27 Aug 2016, at 7:20 pm, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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> I think Jonathan Mosen has such a list, but I'm not on it, and I couldn't 
> find anything with a quick web search. Maybe knowing this will help you find 
> it.
> 
>> On 27/08/16 08:53, afik sofir wrote:
>> 
>> Kimberley,
>> If you'll get answer, please let me know.
>> My e-mail address is:
>> afik.so...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> ‫ב-27 באוג׳ 2016, בשעה 15:11, ‏‏Kimber Gardner
>> ‏mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:‬
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Re: "Location tracking on" is back again

[rajmund]

Hi, turn off location services?

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 27 Aug 2016, at 5:16 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location 
> tracking being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't using nor did I 
> have running any app that had permission to use location services. Mark 
> helpful he suggested some setting that I needed to change, which seemed to 
> solve the problem. The problem is back with a vengeance. And I can't remember 
> what the setting was. Can anyone refresh my memory?
> Mary
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Fantastical 2

[Ann Byrne]

I bought Fantastical 2 because it sounded great, but how do I go 
directly to a list giving me only my pending appointments?  I can 
find last month, next year, next month ... and all I want to see is 
what is pending.  So far fantastical isn't giving me any more than 
the native calendar.  I'm sure it's user error.  could someone please 
set me straight?


Thanks,

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Re: Grubhub ap

[Marie Lyons]

Thanks for the work around. Did you use the home key triple tap?

Marie Lyons
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:16 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> I tried the update that was released a few days ago: over four restaurants I 
> consistently found that when I wanted to choose a beverage, the app would 
> crash, and I would lose the order I had put together before the beverage.  
> Someone suggested that I get someone cited to use my phone with voiceover off 
> and see if the app still crashed:  it turned out that I figured out that I 
> could hold my finger on the 20 ounce soda, turn voiceover off with the other 
> hand, tap the soda, turn voiceover on, and then be able to choose what I 
> wanted without incident . I put a review in the App Store, and DM to GrubHub 
> on Twitter to let them know this, saying that if I could choose an entrée, 
> appetizer, etc., that I should be able to interact with VoiceOver in the same 
> way to choose a Drink. 
> r
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Have all of you who care about this app and who aren't receiving feedback 
>> contacted Grub Hub on their toll free phone number? It was easy to find on 
>> their website and I wonder whether they'll start to take notice if they get 
>> a few dozen calls each day from frustrated users, maybe demand that their 
>> customer service reads you off a bunch of meal choices and restaurant 
>> options, ask for supervisors/managers and in general be a nuisance.
>> If anybody wants to try, their customer service number is 1-877-585-1085.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Grubhub ap
>> 
>> Mark is correct that apps themselves are not required by the law to be 
>> accessible.  The legal theory being advanced is that Grub Hub is a prepared 
>> food delivery service to the public and not merely a technology.  As a food 
>> delivery service, it cannot exclude customers because it does not want or 
>> care to serve them.  Grub Hub could offer another means of providing the 
>> content of the app and conducting a prepared food delivery transaction. The 
>> other options, such as 24 hour customer service, would be much more 
>> expensive than spending a few days of coding to make the app VoiceOver 
>> accessible.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/22/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> And what happens if the judge does dismiss it? Then I guess whoever 
>>> filed the claim is on the hook for the legal fees unless you find a 
>>> lawyer who will do it pro bono for the potential publicity.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 11:47 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Grubhub ap
>>> 
>>> Some have interpreted the effective communications provision of the 
>>> Americans with Disabilities Act to apply to online services.  Courts 
>>> have refused to dismiss accessibility cases involving Uber and Net 
>>> Flicks believing that plaintiffs had a likelihood in showing that the ADA 
>>> applied.
>>> Both companies decided to settle after these rulings rather than 
>>> taking the issue to trial and an appeal for a definitive decision.  In 
>>> the United States Sieghard, plaintiffs who prevail in civil rights 
>>> cases, including ADA cases, can have their attorney fees paid by the 
>>> discriminating party when the aggrieved party prevails.
>>> This is how vice-Presidential candidate Tim Kaine got paid at his 
>>> civil rights law firm as a lawyer.  The firm was paid when they won in 
>>> court or the other party settled.  Now his net worth is estimated at
>>> $1.4 million.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8/22/16, M. Taylor  wrote:
 You are absolutely correct, my friend.  There is no such law in the 
 United States.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Grubhub ap
 
 Sorry for my ignorance, but on what basis would you take legal action?
 I am in Canada and I understand that there are some laws regarding 
 accessibility, but I didn't think there was one that forced an app 
 developer or a company to make their app accessible if they don't 
 want to do so. Who would pay the legal bill?
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
 Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:04 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Grubhub ap
 
 Is anyone else interested in taking legal action

Descriptive Video on Amazon Prime?

['ChalmersAS' via VIPhone]

Hi, sorry, just catching up with emails.

I tried to get something out of Amazon via Twitter, as they are sometimes more 
willing to reply because of the public nature of the communication. They just 
didn’t understand the problem. It’s the Kindle thing all over again.

Oddly enough, I have a sighted friend who lives in India for much of the year 
and she negotiated a substantial discount on her Prime membership because she 
wasn’t able to take advantage of various of the Prime features. If they can’t 
be bothered to provide us with described video content, maybe they should give 
us a discount too ?

I suppose if they ever did respond to this, they would come up with some 
mendacious reason why it isn’t technically possible. Doesn’t seem to stop 
Netflix and hooray for them.

Also, for listers in the US, any chance the FCC could get stuck into this as an 
issue? That was the only thing that got Amazon moving on Kindle.

Best 

Adrienne

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Re: multtiple topics: apple tv, netflicks, hulu, etc.

[Richard Turner]

In short, not all, or even most, shows on the major networks are available on 
Netflix.
Sometimes you wait a year or more before a TV series shows up on Netflix.
All the ones you mentioned, Netflix, Hulu, and MLB, are subscriptions. The apps 
are free, but only useful with a paid subscription.
If you get the Apple TV, you will be able to use the VoiceOver feature to enter 
your login information for the various subscriptions.
With the 3rd Generation Apple TV, you could also sync a Bluetooth keyboard, 
which made account info entry much easier.
That's what I think I know.
HTH,
Richard


"By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:09 PM, david gross 
mailto:david.dgro...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have numerous naive questions.

We purchased a wi fi ready tv.

We have never used that feature as of yet.

My wife who is low vision records a lot on the dvr.

We have verizon fios.

We are ttold by year's end there will be taling menus. I'll believe it whenn it 
happens.

So I am intterested in apple tv. What is the cost for the current version?

I understand tthat apple tv let's you use netflicks, huulu, etc.

Are the cost off these apps in addition to the base apple price, or included in 
the base price?

I would like to"cut the cord" next summer with fios when my contract ends and 
use apple tv and or apps.

I am not clear as to the types of programs available on netflicks, hulu, etc. 
If these apps include the regular 4 major network programms, what is the delay 
or lag time to access the shows after their orifinal network broadcast?

My wife recorded big brother the other night. It was interupted by weather 
bulletins, so the next day on her phone she watched it on the cbs app for free. 
Why would someone pay for netflicks or huluu if programs are free on network 
apps?


and I am a big mlb fan and we do not have the mlb network on fios. I understand 
it is available with apple tv. Would that be a add on cost.


thank ou for any assistance with any or all of this.

David Gross


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multtiple topics: apple tv, netflicks, hulu, etc.

[david gross]

I have numerous naive questions.

We purchased a wi fi ready tv.

We have never used that feature as of yet.

My wife who is low vision records a lot on the dvr.

We have verizon fios.

We are ttold by year's end there will be taling menus. I'll believe it whenn it 
happens.

So I am intterested in apple tv. What is the cost for the current version?

I understand tthat apple tv let's you use netflicks, huulu, etc.

Are the cost off these apps in addition to the base apple price, or included in 
the base price?

I would like to"cut the cord" next summer with fios when my contract ends and 
use apple tv and or apps.

I am not clear as to the types of programs available on netflicks, hulu, etc. 
If these apps include the regular 4 major network programms, what is the delay 
or lag time to access the shows after their orifinal network broadcast?

My wife recorded big brother the other night. It was interupted by weather 
bulletins, so the next day on her phone she watched it on the cbs app for free. 
Why would someone pay for netflicks or huluu if programs are free on network 
apps?


and I am a big mlb fan and we do not have the mlb network on fios. I understand 
it is available with apple tv. Would that be a add on cost.


thank ou for any assistance with any or all of this.

David Gross


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Any rumors heard whether Apple will be providing bluetooth ear buds with iPhone 7?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

HI,

Just curious if anyone has heard rumors whther Apple will be providing 
Bluetooth ear buds with iPhone 7, if they do in fact remove the headphone jack, 
which sounds as if that is being done.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Discounted apps

[christopher hallsworth]

Apps Gone Free.
> On 27 Aug 2016, at 05:49, Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello someone posted information regarding an app that will let you know when 
> apps are either free or offered at a discounted rate. I've been trying to 
> search for the app and have been unable to find it. If anyone knows the name 
> of it can you please repost.
> Thank you
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RE: E-Mail Client

[Richard Turner]

Yes, it works fine, but Gordan said he didn’t like having it on.
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: E-Mail Client

Yes, this can still be turned off in Mail settings as always although it works 
beautifully.

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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: E-Mail Client


I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in iOS 10.

Richard

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić 
mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi!

There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new in incoming 
iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in Mail app is not separated 
by message as it was till now. Now it is more like conversation view similar to 
text and iMessages and there is a new option in rotor called "message" which 
will enable you to switch between messages in conversation.

I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate messages and that's 
why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like threads and I'm using it only for 
some mail groups I'm subscribed to.



S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić









27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com je 
napisao/la:
What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the mail app's 
interface in iOS 10?


Thanks,
Ari

On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić 
mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi!

@Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would 
probably work on all iOS devices.

@Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large turnaround 
in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail 
on some Android devices and I like its options, features and tones of settings 
for fine tuning its operativity.

I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than iOS 
but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app itself. 
Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google Speech Input or 
whatever is it called in English than Siri Dictation, atleast for my native 
language.

I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't 
know did you played with Aquamail settins?

@Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.



S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić









26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:

I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail 
itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. 
I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I 
get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with 
android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get 
around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to 
the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two 
cents.

Mary





Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:



I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different 
methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select and 
delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's still more 
efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and again! 





It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in my 
hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a keyboard; 
but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long message.





Carol P







On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:

Hi Gordon,

I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am curious 
what you specifically like about it over what's available in the native iOS 
mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't like it, 
principally because it's not as efficient to delete large quantities of mail. I 
shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It just doesn't let me go 
through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the Apple client does. That's 
why am curious why you like it.





Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić 
 wrote:



Hi!



I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.

Re: Looking for a list for beta testers who also use VO

[Christopher Chaltain]

I think Jonathan Mosen has such a list, but I'm not on it, and I 
couldn't find anything with a quick web search. Maybe knowing this will 
help you find it.


On 27/08/16 08:53, afik sofir wrote:


Kimberley,
If you'll get answer, please let me know.
My e-mail address is:
afik.so...@gmail.com 


‫ב-27 באוג׳ 2016, בשעה 15:11, ‏‏Kimber Gardner
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Is there a list for iOS beta testers who also use VO?

Thanks,
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Re: update on my sound problem

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yes, I think this would work. I'll just have to remember after the 
meeting that I toggled off VoiceOver. I wouldn't be surprised if I 
forget the first few times and reset my phone thinking VoiceOver was hung.


Ideally, I'd like VoiceOver to respect the mute switch for all automatic 
notifications. I'd still like VoiceOver to talk to me when I'm actually 
interacting with the phone, even if the mute switch is on.


On 27/08/16 10:45, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

I usually just turn on the Mute switch and then 3-finger double tap to turn off 
speech. Vibrations still come through.

Wouldn't this do what you describe below as desirable?

Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on my sound problem

I always wanted the mute switch, when activated, to turn off all sounds 
generated by alerts and notifications, including VoiceOver, and this is how it 
worked for me for a very short period of time, maybe a few months with IOS 7. 
I'm not sure how Apple intended this to work though, and I've always found it 
to be inconsistent. This has always been a bit frustrating for me since I want 
to have my phone on in meetings, so I can step out when I get a notification 
that I'm expecting, but still have it silent so it doesn't interrupt the 
meeting. I also want to be able to toggle this behavior on and off and not have 
to go down a settings tree to find this switch. I must admit that after a year 
or so of not being able to figure out what combination of settings would get me 
the behavior I wanted, even through IOS updates, I kind of gave up trying, and 
I think I need to go back and give Ari's suggestion another chance.

On 26/08/16 15:20, Wayne Merritt wrote:

I have my phone set to this specific VoiceOver setting, and have found
that it too can be inconsistent at times. Another option to allow
notifications but not be alerted by them is to mute the sounds from
the phone, and also do a 3 finger double tap on the screen. This will
mute speech. This way, you still get notifications but they aren't
spoken and no sound comes through. I use this a lot when taking a nap
or in a movie. I still get all my notices but only have to worry about
the vibrations coming through. This would be an option if you did not
want to turn Do Not Disturb on but you wanted to not be alerted by
voice or sound when getting a notification. Perhaps there is no one
perfect solution in this situation.

JMt,
Wayne

On 8/25/16, Regina Alvarado  wrote:


I think this may help me too Ary. Thanks.

reggie & Lex

On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

Alan, if I understand your message correctly, you want to have
VoiceOver not speak notifications, but get a vibration when you
receive one and your mute switch is turned on. If this is the case,
you want to turn off the setting called always speak notifications in
settings/general/accessibility/VoiceOver.


Thanks,
Ari


On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Regina,

FYI, my iPhone 6 running iOS 9.3.4 is often inconsistent with
announcing notifications when I have my phone muted. It seems like
the quieter it is in a meeting when I have the phone muted that
VoiceOver blasts out the notification. It is supposed to vibrate
when a notification comes in and the phone is muted but I'm also experiencing 
your issue inconsistently.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on my sound problem


I tried muting my phone on a phone call. I still got notifications.
Reading this article I am led to believe it will stop notifications
and only vibrate if enabled.  I think I am having brain block about
these features. [smiles)

reggie & Lex

On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain

wrote:

Do not disturb and the mute switch are a bit different. Mute
silences the sounds from your phone and is on until you switch it off.

Do not disturb can be set up on a schedule, and it can be
customized, so for example, you can have the phone ring if anyone in
your favorites calls you but not otherwise. You can also have calls
go through if their from the same person and you get three of them in a short 
period of time.

Here's an article that explains the difference:
http://www.howtogeek.com/256984/whats-the-difference-between-do-not-
disturb-and-mute-on-the-iphone/

On 24/08/16 19:35, Chip Orange wrote:

Hi Alan,



This is a good tip; but I would like to know, is this doing
something different from just use of the “mute” switch by the volume arrows?



Thanks,



Chip





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*On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:17 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: up

RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Rose Combs]

My whole family is on Verizon, everyone else has good service even in my house. 
 Sandy is a 4S, Nancy has a 6, her husband has an Android something or other 
they all work.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

OK. I don't know anything about Verizon's network. I know that there have been 
many improvements in T-Mobile over the last couple of years. A lot of those 
have to do with band 12. And with older phones, including your six, band 12 
wasn't available. In that case, an upgrade would probably have done a lot of 
good for you, assuming band 12 is in your area of course.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> Well I have a 6 bought in September 2014.  Verizon, and, have problems with 
> dropped calls, keeping connected to network, they say I don't have problems 
> but I do and no one else does.  Spent a total of about 8 hours over two weeks 
> on phone with Verizon and minor improvement in dropped calls,  and last week 
> cousin called, went to voice mail instead of ringing through and I was right 
> here with phone on desk.  May be time but hopefully it will work enough for 
> me to see what features are coming that I may or may not want to use.  
> Computer connection is only so-so also despite Century Link telling me it is 
> "perfect" as a cousin says all the time.  That word and OK are two I am 
> growing rapidly tired of.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> 
> Hi Rose, what phone do you have? Which network are you on? Those bar readings 
> are not all that accurate. There is another way where you can actually get 
> the true signal reading. But of course, I don't remember what it is, and it 
> may vary from carrier to carrier. If you have an older phone with an older 
> radio, and your visitors have newer phones, that may account for the 
> difference, or at least some of it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I will 
>> decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone else he 
>> gets full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it isn't my 
>> phone but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has to be wrong 
>> somewhere.  
>> 
>> 
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>> 
>> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with 
>> an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE 
>> came out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when 
>> something goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got 
>> this reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone 
>> happy is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows 
>> Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone 
>> who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might 
>> include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't 
>> think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more 
>> frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an 
>> SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
>> 
>>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
>>> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who 
>>> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that 
>>> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
 This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
 likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
 sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
 you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should 
 be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
 Original message:
> Hello Christine,
 
> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
> you hav

Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Christopher Chaltain]

Is this really Apple's rule? I couldn't find anything on line with a 
quick web search. I remember everyone was surprised when Apple continued 
to support the 4S with IOS 9, which would have been four years and not 
five, if the 4S would have stopped at IOS 8.


Whether it's a rule or not, and whether it's four or five years, Apple's 
support for older hardware is truly outstanding in the mobile space.


I would agree that if you're worried about whether you get an IOS 
upgrade or the SE in 2020 then you should wait to see what the fall 
brings. As Sieghard says though, the SE will still work on the last 
version of IOS it supports even if you can't move up to the next 
version. Also, how many people hold on to their smart phones that long 
in the first place? I've seen us 4S users on this list get responses 
that we should just upgrade, even when asking questions that have 
nothing to do with the 4S and it's hardware.


On 27/08/16 08:37, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Knowing that this is Apple's rule at this point it doesn't mean this will 
change. Also, if somebody who couldn't care less about the latest features had 
an iPhone 4S which still worked well for what they are doing they can still use 
it for years to come with iOS 9.3.5. Of course the reality is that a device 
that is 5 or 6 or even 7 years old will most likely need a new battery and why 
pay for that if you could get whatever iPhone is free on contract. The 
exception here would be somebody who maybe is happy to use the iPhone 4S with a 
prepaid service or with a low-cost MVNO. My Mom has an iPad 2 from 2011 which 
also will not get iOS 10 this year. She already asked me if she could still use 
it and I said that of course she can since while it is a bit slow compared to 
new devices, it is still going strong.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing upgrade ability to 
iPhones after five years.  The SE is based on 2015 technology and likely cannot 
accept the new iOS in 2020.  The iPhone 7 will likely not be able to receive a 
new iOS in 2021, based on past Apple practice.  For example, the 4s will not be 
able to accept iOS 10 that will be out later this year.

Kelly

On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to
eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are
they going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the year?
I can see where a spring release might take some of the thunder away
from the other smart phone manufacturers who line their product
releases up with the show in Barcelona, but I also know that operating
system development is more complicated when you have to support different 
hardware schedules.

On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to everybody
to do their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not
super technical users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form
factor phone were released. They may hear about it in a news article
from a major news outlet, but the fact is that a large majority of
people are users who do not necessarily follow each Apple Event.
Anyhow, when it comes down to it Apple couldn't care less if they
made 10% of their user base mad, after all, they did this with the
iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's worth, I don't think
they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in September, at this
point there would be many more rumours and some of which from sources
who in the past have been very credible and there are no such rumours.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other
phones last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when
the phone was released, there was a major back up, so people waited
weeks before getting their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple
phone releases, and they admitted that they underestimated the demand
for this particular phone. So, you have a case where people just
purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here we are in September
almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple releases a new SE
now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I think the folks
who purchased their phones recently are going to be upset. You know,
Apple, why didn't you release this phone last fall with all of the
others? Why did you wait over half a year, then release the phone, and right on 
top of it, release anoth

Re: How do I change a paid subscription

[Feliciano Godoy]

On your iPhone settings, go to iTunes and App Store. Then go to your Apple ID 
and view ID. There you can manage your subscriptions.

Regards,
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Mary Otten]

OK. I don't know anything about Verizon's network. I know that there have been 
many improvements in T-Mobile over the last couple of years. A lot of those 
have to do with band 12. And with older phones, including your six, band 12 
wasn't available. In that case, an upgrade would probably have done a lot of 
good for you, assuming band 12 is in your area of course.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> Well I have a 6 bought in September 2014.  Verizon, and, have problems with 
> dropped calls, keeping connected to network, they say I don't have problems 
> but I do and no one else does.  Spent a total of about 8 hours over two weeks 
> on phone with Verizon and minor improvement in dropped calls,  and last week 
> cousin called, went to voice mail instead of ringing through and I was right 
> here with phone on desk.  May be time but hopefully it will work enough for 
> me to see what features are coming that I may or may not want to use.  
> Computer connection is only so-so also despite Century Link telling me it is 
> "perfect" as a cousin says all the time.  That word and OK are two I am 
> growing rapidly tired of.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> 
> Hi Rose, what phone do you have? Which network are you on? Those bar readings 
> are not all that accurate. There is another way where you can actually get 
> the true signal reading. But of course, I don't remember what it is, and it 
> may very from carrier to carrier. If you have an older phone with an older 
> radio, and your visitors have newer phones, that may account for the 
> difference, or at least some of it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I will 
>> decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone else he 
>> gets full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it isn't my 
>> phone but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has to be wrong 
>> somewhere.  
>> 
>> 
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>> 
>> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with 
>> an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE 
>> came out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when 
>> something goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got 
>> this reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone 
>> happy is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows 
>> Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone 
>> who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might 
>> include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't 
>> think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more 
>> frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an 
>> SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
>> 
>>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
>>> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who 
>>> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that 
>>> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
 This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
 likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
 sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
 you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should 
 be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
 Original message:
> Hello Christine,
 
> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
> you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, 
> I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using 
> your upgrade privileges.
 
> Mark
 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Need opinions about wait

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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Rose Combs]

Well I have a 6 bought in September 2014.  Verizon, and, have problems with 
dropped calls, keeping connected to network, they say I don't have problems but 
I do and no one else does.  Spent a total of about 8 hours over two weeks on 
phone with Verizon and minor improvement in dropped calls,  and last week 
cousin called, went to voice mail instead of ringing through and I was right 
here with phone on desk.  May be time but hopefully it will work enough for me 
to see what features are coming that I may or may not want to use.  Computer 
connection is only so-so also despite Century Link telling me it is "perfect" 
as a cousin says all the time.  That word and OK are two I am growing rapidly 
tired of.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Hi Rose, what phone do you have? Which network are you on? Those bar readings 
are not all that accurate. There is another way where you can actually get the 
true signal reading. But of course, I don't remember what it is, and it may 
very from carrier to carrier. If you have an older phone with an older radio, 
and your visitors have newer phones, that may account for the difference, or at 
least some of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I will 
> decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone else he gets 
> full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it isn't my phone 
> but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has to be wrong 
> somewhere.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> 
> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with 
> an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE 
> came out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when 
> something goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got 
> this reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone 
> happy is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows 
> Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone 
> who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might 
> include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't 
> think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more 
> frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an 
> SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
> 
>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
>> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who 
>> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that 
>> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
>>> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
>>> sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
>>> you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should 
>>> be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
>>> Original message:
 Hello Christine,
>>> 
 Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
 you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, 
 I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using 
 your upgrade privileges.
>>> 
 Mark
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>> 
   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
 iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
 car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
 or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want 
 the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
 trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
 screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to ga

Re: "Location tracking on" is back again

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Sure it was something under privacy settings, I put most of it off.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: "VIPhone 'RobH. ' via" 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:16 PM
Subject: "Location tracking on" is back again


Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location tracking 
being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't 
using nor did I have running any app that had permission to use location 
services. Mark helpful he suggested some setting that I 
needed to change, which seemed to solve the problem. The problem is back with a 
vengeance. And I can't remember what the setting 
was. Can anyone refresh my memory?
Mary


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Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

[Flor Lynch]

Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty SurpriseThe article doesn’t *say* it was 
broken in previous iOS versions. It only talks about *claims* that it was. 
Here’s what it does say:
“Perhaps the most interesting aspect to all of this, however, are claims this 
feature has been broken since the original launch of iOS 9 in September 2015 
and Apple has not attempted to fixed it in any subsequent upgrade.” [And Apple 
haven’t commented on that.] 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise
Interesting how not a single message about this issue was posted on this list. 
Dictation may not work in 9.3.4, but it definitely worked in previous iOS 9 
versions since I used it all the time before installing iOS 10 beta so I’m not 
sure why the article says this was broken since the beginning in iOS 9.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

 

I thought many of you would be interested in the following article:

Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

The iPhone 7 is very close and the all singing all dancing iOS 10 will come 
with it. But right now most iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users are on iOS 9.3.4 
and Apple has confirmed to me it contains a nasty surprise that, for millions, 
will never be fixed… 

‘Great Features’ and ‘Nasty Surprises’ are my regular columns investigating 
operating system updates for the best features / biggest problems hidden behind 
the headlines.

The problem in iOS 9.3.4 is an incompatibility between VoiceOver and voice 
dictation which is hitting disabled and, in particular, blind users hard. In 
short: with VoiceOver enabled (it describes everything on your screen with a 
triple press of the home button) voice dictation is broken producing duplicate 
and often muddled words - notably when quick replying to messages in the 
notification centre.

iOS 9.3.4. Image credit: Apple 

Having been contacted by several blind users about this problem, they told me 
the only workaround is to turn off VoiceOver, turn on dictation, speak, turn 
off dictation then turn VoiceOver back on. This is about 10 steps and 
unfortunately for the blind, turning off VoiceOver is a very risky move yet 
voice dictation is essential. 

Perhaps the most interesting aspect to all of this, however, are claims this 
feature has been broken since the original launch of iOS 9 in September 2015 
and Apple has not attempted to fixed it in any subsequent upgrade. 

In response I contacted Apple and the company confirmed to me the fault does 
exist in iOS 9.3.4, though it would not say if the bug could be traced back 
further. Apple also had good and bad news for affected users.

VoiceOver is iOS is crucial for disabled iPhone and iPad users, but it breaks 
voice dictation - an equally important feature for them. Image credit: Apple 

The good news is the bug will be fixed in iOS 10 (and is already fixed in the 
latest iOS 10 public beta). The bad news is there are no plans to fix the bug 
in iOS 9 and with iPhone 4S, iPad Mini, iPad 3rd gen and iPod touch 5th gen 
users not entitled to iOS 10 upgrades, users of those devices will be left with 
the bug until they buy something new.

Needless to say this won’t be a problem for many users who upgrade regularly, 
but as one blind user told me: typically their need to have the latest cutting 
edge products is greatly diminished. 

Consequently if Apple can fix the bug in iOS 10, I’d argue the company should 
also fix it in iOS 9 before leaving a generation of devices and a subset of 
users stranded. This would be a commendable way to sign off an version of iOS 
well known for its high profile problems, before the company moves on to its 
latest and greatest iPhone and iOS plans...

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"Location tracking on" is back again

[Mary Otten]

 Some months ago, I reported that I was having a problem with location tracking 
being on when it should not  be. That is, I wasn't using nor did I have running 
any app that had permission to use location services. Mark helpful he suggested 
some setting that I needed to change, which seemed to solve the problem. The 
problem is back with a vengeance. And I can't remember what the setting was. 
Can anyone refresh my memory?
Mary


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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Mary Otten]

Hi Rose, what phone do you have? Which network are you on? Those bar readings 
are not all that accurate. There is another way where you can actually get the 
true signal reading. But of course, I don't remember what it is, and it may 
very from carrier to carrier. If you have an older phone with an older radio, 
and your visitors have newer phones, that may account for the difference, or at 
least some of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I will 
> decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone else he gets 
> full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it isn't my phone 
> but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has to be wrong 
> somewhere.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> 
> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an 
> upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came 
> out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something 
> goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this 
> reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone happy is 
> to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows 
> they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an 
> SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might include a smaller 
> form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't think Apple would ever 
> promise not to refresh a phone model any more frequently than once a 
> year. I also don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on 
> if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
> 
>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
>> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who 
>> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that 
>> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
>>> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
>>> sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
>>> you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should 
>>> be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
>>> Original message:
 Hello Christine,
>>> 
 Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
 you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, 
 I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using 
 your upgrade privileges.
>>> 
 Mark
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>> 
   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
 iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
 car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
 or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want 
 the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
 trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
 screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, 
 the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care 
 about, and unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure 
 I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>>> 
 In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my 
 upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
 wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>>> 
 TIA.
 Christine
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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Rose Combs]

If I can I will wait and see what the 7 has that I might want, then I will 
decide which phone I wish to have, if I get a new one.  Everyone else he gets 
full signal it seems, I get 2 bars, they keep assuring me it isn't my phone 
but, if visitors get 4-5 bars and I get 2, something has to be wrong somewhere. 
 


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an 
upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came 
out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something 
goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this 
reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone happy is 
to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows 
they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an 
SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might include a smaller 
form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't think Apple would ever 
promise not to refresh a phone model any more frequently than once a 
year. I also don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on 
if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.

On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who just 
> bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that making 
> people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>
>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
>> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
>> sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
>> you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should be 
>> interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
>> Original message:
>>> Hello Christine,
>>
>>> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
>>> you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, I 
>>> would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using your 
>>> upgrade privileges.
>>
>>> Mark
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Christine Grassman
>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>
>>>Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
>>> iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
>>> car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
>>> or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want 
>>> the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
>>> trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
>>> screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, 
>>> the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care 
>>> about, and unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure 
>>> I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>>
>>> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my 
>>> upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
>>> wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>>
>>> TIA.
>>> Christine
>>
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Re: App to schedule and record a radio show

[Wayne Merritt]

Thanks all for the feedback. Sounds like TuneIn Radio Pro is the best
option. Fortunately, when I first got TuneIn in 2011 or 2012, I bought
the Pro version.

Wayne

On 8/27/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> TuneIn Radio Pro has this feature and it works with VoiceOver.
> I think you do have to keep TuneIn in the foreground. But, you could do that
> by leaving it plugged in and set to the station and just put it in another
> room so it doesn't keep you awake.
> HTH,
> Richard
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> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
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> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Wayne Merritt
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> Greetings. I am looking for an app to schedule and record a radio show
> on a weekly basis. There is a show that I like to listen to overnight
> but it is broadcast from midnight to 4am my time Friday mornings. Is
> there an app I can schedule a weekly recording of this show? I have
> TuneIn Radio and ooTunes but I don't know if either would do this or
> how to set it up. I've tried to look for podcasts of the show but
> can't find them. I'm probably not using the right keywords. Any ideas?
>
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Re: SE v 7...

[Portia Scott]

Thanks for that. I just might consider that.
> On Aug 27, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can get the 64 GB version for $500 in the US. That is considerably 
> cheaper than the 6S or the 6S plus.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Dianne Phelps  > wrote:
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>> Did I not read from one of you that the SE memory could be upgraded to 64? I 
>> have 64 now and could not see going back to 16.
>>  
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RE: update on my sound problem

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

I usually just turn on the Mute switch and then 3-finger double tap to turn off 
speech. Vibrations still come through.

Wouldn't this do what you describe below as desirable?

Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on my sound problem

I always wanted the mute switch, when activated, to turn off all sounds 
generated by alerts and notifications, including VoiceOver, and this is how it 
worked for me for a very short period of time, maybe a few months with IOS 7. 
I'm not sure how Apple intended this to work though, and I've always found it 
to be inconsistent. This has always been a bit frustrating for me since I want 
to have my phone on in meetings, so I can step out when I get a notification 
that I'm expecting, but still have it silent so it doesn't interrupt the 
meeting. I also want to be able to toggle this behavior on and off and not have 
to go down a settings tree to find this switch. I must admit that after a year 
or so of not being able to figure out what combination of settings would get me 
the behavior I wanted, even through IOS updates, I kind of gave up trying, and 
I think I need to go back and give Ari's suggestion another chance.

On 26/08/16 15:20, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> I have my phone set to this specific VoiceOver setting, and have found 
> that it too can be inconsistent at times. Another option to allow 
> notifications but not be alerted by them is to mute the sounds from 
> the phone, and also do a 3 finger double tap on the screen. This will 
> mute speech. This way, you still get notifications but they aren't 
> spoken and no sound comes through. I use this a lot when taking a nap 
> or in a movie. I still get all my notices but only have to worry about 
> the vibrations coming through. This would be an option if you did not 
> want to turn Do Not Disturb on but you wanted to not be alerted by 
> voice or sound when getting a notification. Perhaps there is no one 
> perfect solution in this situation.
>
> JMt,
> Wayne
>
> On 8/25/16, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
>>
>> I think this may help me too Ary. Thanks.
>>
>> reggie & Lex
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Alan, if I understand your message correctly, you want to have 
>> VoiceOver not speak notifications, but get a vibration when you 
>> receive one and your mute switch is turned on. If this is the case, 
>> you want to turn off the setting called always speak notifications in 
>> settings/general/accessibility/VoiceOver.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Regina,
>>>
>>> FYI, my iPhone 6 running iOS 9.3.4 is often inconsistent with 
>>> announcing notifications when I have my phone muted. It seems like 
>>> the quieter it is in a meeting when I have the phone muted that 
>>> VoiceOver blasts out the notification. It is supposed to vibrate 
>>> when a notification comes in and the phone is muted but I'm also 
>>> experiencing your issue inconsistently.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:15 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: update on my sound problem
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried muting my phone on a phone call. I still got notifications.
>>> Reading this article I am led to believe it will stop notifications 
>>> and only vibrate if enabled.  I think I am having brain block about 
>>> these features. [smiles)
>>>
>>> reggie & Lex
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do not disturb and the mute switch are a bit different. Mute 
>>> silences the sounds from your phone and is on until you switch it off.
>>>
>>> Do not disturb can be set up on a schedule, and it can be 
>>> customized, so for example, you can have the phone ring if anyone in 
>>> your favorites calls you but not otherwise. You can also have calls 
>>> go through if their from the same person and you get three of them in a 
>>> short period of time.
>>>
>>> Here's an article that explains the difference:
>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/256984/whats-the-difference-between-do-not-
>>> disturb-and-mute-on-the-iphone/
>>>
>>> On 24/08/16 19:35, Chip Orange wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a good tip; but I would like to know, is this doing 
>>> something different from just use of the “mute” switch by the volume arrows?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:17 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: update on my sound problem
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regina,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a bit unclear whether you got your sounds back from yo

Re: SE v 7...

[Mary Otten]

Yes, you can get the 64 GB version for $500 in the US. That is considerably 
cheaper than the 6S or the 6S plus.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Dianne Phelps  wrote:
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> Did I not read from one of you that the SE memory could be upgraded to 64? I 
> have 64 now and could not see going back to 16.
>  
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input on free conf services phone app

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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Mary Otten]

Four years worth of upgrades for a phone is pretty good in my opinion, given 
that even with Nexus devices, you're only guaranteed to upgrades. And  many 
other android devices  don't give you that many.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:51 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing upgrade
> ability to iPhones after five years.  The SE is based on 2015
> technology and likely cannot accept the new iOS in 2020.  The iPhone 7
> will likely not be able to receive a new iOS in 2021, based on past
> Apple practice.  For example, the 4s will not be able to accept iOS 10
> that will be out later this year.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to
>> eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are they
>> going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the year? I can
>> see where a spring release might take some of the thunder away from the
>> other smart phone manufacturers who line their product releases up with
>> the show in Barcelona, but I also know that operating system development
>> is more complicated when you have to support different hardware schedules.
>> 
>>> On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to everybody to
>>> do their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not super
>>> technical users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form factor phone
>>> were released. They may hear about it in a news article from a major news
>>> outlet, but the fact is that a large majority of people are users who do
>>> not necessarily follow each Apple Event. Anyhow, when it comes down to it
>>> Apple couldn't care less if they made 10% of their user base mad, after
>>> all, they did this with the iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's
>>> worth, I don't think they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in
>>> September, at this point there would be many more rumours and some of
>>> which from sources who in the past have been very credible and there are
>>> no such rumours.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>> 
>>> Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other
>>> phones last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when the
>>> phone was released, there was a major back up, so people waited weeks
>>> before getting their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple phone
>>> releases, and they admitted that they underestimated the demand for this
>>> particular phone. So, you have a case where people just purchased phone
>>> maybe in June or July, and here we are in September almost, traditional
>>> iPhone release time. If Apple releases a new SE now in sync with all of
>>> its other phone releases, I think the folks who purchased their phones
>>> recently are going to be upset. You know, Apple, why didn't you release
>>> this phone last fall with all of the others? Why did you wait over half a
>>> year, then release the phone, and right on top of it, release another one?
>>> That's why I figure people would not be happy.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
 wrote:
 
 Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an
 upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came out?
 Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something goes on
 sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this reasoning since
 this would mean the only way to make everyone happy is to never put
 something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows they release
 new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an SE would know
 that there would be a chance Apple might include a smaller form factor
 phone in this fall's line up. I don't think Apple would ever promise not
 to refresh a phone model any more frequently than once a year. I also
 don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on if Apple
 upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
 
> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I
> can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of
> people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they
> do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in
> the past. Smile.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> This may also depend on whether you 

RE: Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I looked this up on Amazon.ca and it’s one of these rip-off deals. Robert said 
it costs $25 in the US on sale for $16, here on Amazon.ca it is listed for $74 
+ $6 or $8 shipping. It also says in the specs that it weighs 180 grams which I 
find would be way to heavy for me to wear it over a longer period of time. 
After all, my iPhone 6S Plus only weighs 192 grams which means if the 180 grams 
is indeed correct and you had a 6S Plus in one hand and this Bluetooth wrist 
speaker in the other you couldn’t tell the difference and I certainly wouldn’t 
want something on my wrist that is the weight of my 6S Plus. Robert, if you 
have a talking kitchen scale, could you weigh it and clarify, I have a feeling 
that what Amazon writes is not correct.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
Subject: Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker

earlier I saw a post informing us about a wrist band bluetooth speaker by BEM. 
I found another  on Amazon that worked right out of the box .


Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker Watch Wireless Speakers Bracelet Wristband Band 
for Mobile Phones Support MP3 Music Player, FM Radio, Hands-free Calls,
Self-timer, Anti-Lost Alarm for Sports (White)
$25.95
$16.95
Amazon Prime

This is accessible right out of the box. From just fumbling with the buttons I 
had it working and paired in a couple of minutes or less.  Imagine my surprise 
when it began speaking english although in an Asian accent.

This is an amazing speaker and you would think that it was made specifically 
with blind consumers in mind.
(Note that my references are for persons who wear their watches on their left 
arm.)
On the side closest to your hand there are 4 buttons.  working from the outer 
wrist to the inner I will number them 1, 2, 3 and 4.   On the arm side is a 
cover which is protecting the SD card slot and the USB CHARGE PORT.

Buttons:
1 power/play/answer Hold it in for a count of 3 to turn it on or off. While on 
and pared press it once to play audio and again to pause. when a call comes in 
press once to answer.

2.  volume down/track backwards  Hold down to lower volume. When music is 
playing press once to restart the track press twice quickly to go to the 
previous track.

3. Volume up /track forward  Hold down to raise the volume.  Press once to move 
to the next track.

4. mode  Hold for a count of 4 to toggle between iDevice and FM radio. It will 
verbably announce radio mode.
  (note: buttons 2 & 3 move you through the stations.
SD card slot.  Be sure device is off before inserting or ejecting SD card.  
when card is in place, ridge side up, power on and it plays immediately.

charging  Plug USB cable in teeth side down.
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Re: Looking for a list for beta testers who also use VO

[afik sofir]

Kimberley,
If you'll get answer, please let me know.
My e-mail address is:
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‫ב-27 באוג׳ 2016, בשעה 15:11, ‏‏Kimber Gardner ‏ 
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> Is there a list for iOS beta testers who also use VO?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kimber
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RE: 5 years? Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The iPhone 5C was indeed released in 2013 alongside the 5S, but from a 
technology view it is more like iPhone 5 technology since it does not yet have 
a 64 bit processor. Anyhow, iOS 11 will come out in 2017 (next year) not in 
2018, that would be iOS 12. Therefore it is the iPhone 5 which still gets iOS 
10 this year, but not iOS 11 next year and as I said, I wouldn't be surprised 
if next year support for all non-64 Bit devices would be dropped, the 5S would 
still get iOS 11 but probably not iOS 12 in 2018.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 5 years? Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE


  very interesting info on how Apple stops providing upgrades genrally after 
five years indeed! The 4S definitely didn't break this cycle, being 2011 
technology, thus i'd imagine that the 5C being 2013 technology, will only go up 
to iOS10? In 2018 when iOS11 comes out, they'll be no more updates for the 5C 
model?

El 27/08/2016 04:51 a.m., Kelly Pierce escribió:
> Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing upgrade 
> ability to iPhones after five years.  The SE is based on 2015 
> technology and likely cannot accept the new iOS in 2020.  The iPhone 7 
> will likely not be able to receive a new iOS in 2021, based on past 
> Apple practice.  For example, the 4s will not be able to accept iOS 10 
> that will be out later this year.
>
> Kelly
>
> On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to 
>> eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are 
>> they going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the 
>> year? I can see where a spring release might take some of the thunder 
>> away from the other smart phone manufacturers who line their product 
>> releases up with the show in Barcelona, but I also know that 
>> operating system development is more complicated when you have to support 
>> different hardware schedules.
>>
>> On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to 
>>> everybody to do their research. There will also be a lot of users 
>>> who are not super technical users who couldn't care less if a new 
>>> smaller form factor phone were released. They may hear about it in a 
>>> news article from a major news outlet, but the fact is that a large 
>>> majority of people are users who do not necessarily follow each 
>>> Apple Event. Anyhow, when it comes down to it Apple couldn't care 
>>> less if they made 10% of their user base mad, after all, they did 
>>> this with the iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's worth, I 
>>> don't think they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in 
>>> September, at this point there would be many more rumours and some 
>>> of which from sources who in the past have been very credible and there are 
>>> no such rumours.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>>
>>> Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other 
>>> phones last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, 
>>> when the phone was released, there was a major back up, so people 
>>> waited weeks before getting their phones. That is fairly typical for 
>>> Apple phone releases, and they admitted that they underestimated the 
>>> demand for this particular phone. So, you have a case where people 
>>> just purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here we are in 
>>> September almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple releases 
>>> a new SE now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I think 
>>> the folks who purchased their phones recently are going to be upset. 
>>> You know, Apple, why didn't you release this phone last fall with 
>>> all of the others? Why did you wait over half a year, then release the 
>>> phone, and right on top of it, release another one?
>>> That's why I figure people would not be happy.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher 
 Chaltain
 wrote:

 Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out 
 with an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE 
 came out?
 Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something 
 goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this 
 reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone happy 
 is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows 
 Apple knows they release new phones in the fa

RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Knowing that this is Apple's rule at this point it doesn't mean this will 
change. Also, if somebody who couldn't care less about the latest features had 
an iPhone 4S which still worked well for what they are doing they can still use 
it for years to come with iOS 9.3.5. Of course the reality is that a device 
that is 5 or 6 or even 7 years old will most likely need a new battery and why 
pay for that if you could get whatever iPhone is free on contract. The 
exception here would be somebody who maybe is happy to use the iPhone 4S with a 
prepaid service or with a low-cost MVNO. My Mom has an iPad 2 from 2011 which 
also will not get iOS 10 this year. She already asked me if she could still use 
it and I said that of course she can since while it is a bit slow compared to 
new devices, it is still going strong.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing upgrade ability to 
iPhones after five years.  The SE is based on 2015 technology and likely cannot 
accept the new iOS in 2020.  The iPhone 7 will likely not be able to receive a 
new iOS in 2021, based on past Apple practice.  For example, the 4s will not be 
able to accept iOS 10 that will be out later this year.

Kelly

On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to 
> eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are 
> they going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the year? 
> I can see where a spring release might take some of the thunder away 
> from the other smart phone manufacturers who line their product 
> releases up with the show in Barcelona, but I also know that operating 
> system development is more complicated when you have to support different 
> hardware schedules.
>
> On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to everybody 
>> to do their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not 
>> super technical users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form 
>> factor phone were released. They may hear about it in a news article 
>> from a major news outlet, but the fact is that a large majority of 
>> people are users who do not necessarily follow each Apple Event. 
>> Anyhow, when it comes down to it Apple couldn't care less if they 
>> made 10% of their user base mad, after all, they did this with the 
>> iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's worth, I don't think 
>> they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in September, at this 
>> point there would be many more rumours and some of which from sources 
>> who in the past have been very credible and there are no such rumours.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>
>> Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other 
>> phones last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when 
>> the phone was released, there was a major back up, so people waited 
>> weeks before getting their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple 
>> phone releases, and they admitted that they underestimated the demand 
>> for this particular phone. So, you have a case where people just 
>> purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here we are in September 
>> almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple releases a new SE 
>> now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I think the folks 
>> who purchased their phones recently are going to be upset. You know, 
>> Apple, why didn't you release this phone last fall with all of the 
>> others? Why did you wait over half a year, then release the phone, and right 
>> on top of it, release another one?
>> That's why I figure people would not be happy.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out 
>>> with an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE 
>>> came out?
>>> Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something 
>>> goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this 
>>> reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone happy 
>>> is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple 
>>> knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who 
>>> bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might 
>>> include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up.

RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

[Sieghard Weitzel]

9.3.5 was released entirely to fix a few security issues which were identified 
and made iPhones vulnerable to some sort of attack. As far as I know there are 
no other changes.

-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 1:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

So, anybody tried 9.3.5 yet?

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Clark" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:17 AM
Subject: RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise


Hello everyone,

What I do is take my thumb, cover the speaker at the bottom of the phone while 
dictating. This lowers the volume enough where it 
does not capture the voiceover.

Jeff



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



I've had this happen as well, but not very often. I just turn off speech with a 
three-finger double-tap, do a two-finger double-tap 
to sttart dictation, do another two-finger double-tap to stop dictation, then 
do another three-finger double-tap to turn speech back 
on when this issue comes up. Like I said, it's not too offen, and it's easy 
enough to deal with, if a bit annoying. What I'm more 
troubled by is the reports on AppleVis about battery life being reduced with 
iOS 9.3.4, in some cases quite seriously.





Thanks,

Ari


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What usually happens to me in those instances is that the dictation sort of 
hangs. And then voiceover may start announcing random 
words, such as the last word I said or the last punctuation. And then I have to 
turn voiceover off, wait a couple of seconds, turn 
it back on, get rid of the junk and go on about my business. Sometimes the 
dictation hanging up lasts for a lot longer than just a 
couple of seconds. I have confirmed this on my two devices that are on iOS 9, 
as well as a friends iPhone 5s running iOS 9. So it 
isn't just me and my devices. Indeed, my friend is cited, and so voice over 
only got turned on for me to see if I could duplicate 
the problem on her phone. And it was easily done.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

I have sometimes come across situations where Voiceover started reading back 
what I dictated while I was still speaking. I just 
ignored it and it never seems to interfere with the accuracy of my dictation.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



Try using email from a share she say in Facebook or Safari. Or if you happen to 
use Newsify, try sharing an article from there. 
Dictate the message that you want to put in advance of your article. You will 
find the problem I guarantee it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Jeremy Gilley mailto:j_gil...@att.net> > wrote:

Yeah,

For someone who uses dictation a lot, I have never came across this problem.

Guess I am just lucky that there is no bug in my version though I have the 
latest version.



  _

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



Interesting how not a single message about this issue was posted on this list. 
Dictation may not work in 9.3.4, but it definitely 
worked in previous iOS 9 versions since I used it all the time before 
installing iOS 10 beta so I’m not sure why the article says 
this was broken since the beginning in iOS 9.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



I thought many of you would be interested in the following article:

Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

The iPhone 7 is very close 

  and the all singing all 
dancing iOS 10 

  will come with it. 
But right now most iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users are on iOS 9.3.4 and Apple 
  has 
confirmed to me it contains a nasty surprise that, for millions, will never be 
fixed…

‘Great Fe

RE: Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume this wouldn’t also have a 3.5mm headphone jack on it?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
Subject: Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker

earlier I saw a post informing us about a wrist band bluetooth speaker by BEM. 
I found another  on Amazon that worked right out of the box .


Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker Watch Wireless Speakers Bracelet Wristband Band 
for Mobile Phones Support MP3 Music Player, FM Radio, Hands-free Calls,
Self-timer, Anti-Lost Alarm for Sports (White)
$25.95
$16.95
Amazon Prime

This is accessible right out of the box. From just fumbling with the buttons I 
had it working and paired in a couple of minutes or less.  Imagine my surprise 
when it began speaking english although in an Asian accent.

This is an amazing speaker and you would think that it was made specifically 
with blind consumers in mind.
(Note that my references are for persons who wear their watches on their left 
arm.)
On the side closest to your hand there are 4 buttons.  working from the outer 
wrist to the inner I will number them 1, 2, 3 and 4.   On the arm side is a 
cover which is protecting the SD card slot and the USB CHARGE PORT.

Buttons:
1 power/play/answer Hold it in for a count of 3 to turn it on or off. While on 
and pared press it once to play audio and again to pause. when a call comes in 
press once to answer.

2.  volume down/track backwards  Hold down to lower volume. When music is 
playing press once to restart the track press twice quickly to go to the 
previous track.

3. Volume up /track forward  Hold down to raise the volume.  Press once to move 
to the next track.

4. mode  Hold for a count of 4 to toggle between iDevice and FM radio. It will 
verbably announce radio mode.
  (note: buttons 2 & 3 move you through the stations.
SD card slot.  Be sure device is off before inserting or ejecting SD card.  
when card is in place, ridge side up, power on and it plays immediately.

charging  Plug USB cable in teeth side down.
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RE: E-Mail Client

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, this can still be turned off in Mail settings as always although it works 
beautifully.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: E-Mail Client


I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in iOS 10.

Richard

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić 
mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi!

There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new in incoming 
iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in Mail app is not separated 
by message as it was till now. Now it is more like conversation view similar to 
text and iMessages and there is a new option in rotor called "message" which 
will enable you to switch between messages in conversation.

I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate messages and that's 
why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like threads and I'm using it only for 
some mail groups I'm subscribed to.



S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić









27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com je 
napisao/la:
What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the mail app's 
interface in iOS 10?


Thanks,
Ari

On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić 
mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi!

@Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would 
probably work on all iOS devices.

@Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large turnaround 
in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail 
on some Android devices and I like its options, features and tones of settings 
for fine tuning its operativity.

I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than iOS 
but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app itself. 
Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google Speech Input or 
whatever is it called in English than Siri Dictation, atleast for my native 
language.

I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't 
know did you played with Aquamail settins?

@Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.



S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić









26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:

I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail 
itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. 
I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I 
get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with 
android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get 
around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to 
the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two 
cents.

Mary





Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:



I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different 
methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select and 
delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's still more 
efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and again! 





It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in my 
hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a keyboard; 
but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long message.





Carol P







On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:

Hi Gordon,

I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am curious 
what you specifically like about it over what's available in the native iOS 
mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't like it, 
principally because it's not as efficient to delete large quantities of mail. I 
shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It just doesn't let me go 
through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the Apple client does. That's 
why am curious why you like it.





Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić 
 wrote:



Hi!



I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.



Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really like 
Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like Aquamail for 
iOS.



Thanks for your answers!







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Re: E-Mail Client

[Richard Turner]

I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in iOS 10.

Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić 
mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi!

There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new in incoming 
iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in Mail app is not separated 
by message as it was till now. Now it is more like conversation view similar to 
text and iMessages and there is a new option in rotor called "message" which 
will enable you to switch between messages in conversation.

I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate messages and that's 
why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like threads and I'm using it only for 
some mail groups I'm subscribed to.


S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić


  
 

27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com je 
napisao/la:
What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the mail app's 
interface in iOS 10?


Thanks,
Ari

On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić 
mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi!

@Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would 
probably work on all iOS devices.

@Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large turnaround 
in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail 
on some Android devices and I like its options, features and tones of settings 
for fine tuning its operativity.

I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than iOS 
but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app itself. 
Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google Speech Input or 
whatever is it called in English than Siri Dictation, atleast for my native 
language.

I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't 
know did you played with Aquamail settins?

@Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.


S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić


  
 

26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:

I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail 
itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. 
I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I 
get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with 
android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get 
around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to 
the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two 
cents.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different 
methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select and 
delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's still more 
efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and again! 


It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in my 
hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a keyboard; 
but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long message.


Carol P





On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Gordon,
I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am curious 
what you specifically like about it over what's available in the native iOS 
mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't like it, 
principally because it's not as efficient to delete large quantities of mail. I 
shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It just doesn't let me go 
through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the Apple client does. That's 
why am curious why you like it.


Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić 
 wrote:

Hi!

I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.

Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really like 
Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like Aquamail for 
iOS.

Thanks for your answers!



--
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Gordan Radić



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5 years? Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Gerardo Corripio]

 very interesting info on how Apple stops providing upgrades genrally 
after five years indeed! The 4S definitely didn't break this cycle, 
being 2011 technology, thus i'd imagine that the 5C being 2013 
technology, will only go up to iOS10? In 2018 when iOS11 comes out, 
they'll be no more updates for the 5C model?


El 27/08/2016 04:51 a.m., Kelly Pierce escribió:

Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing upgrade
ability to iPhones after five years.  The SE is based on 2015
technology and likely cannot accept the new iOS in 2020.  The iPhone 7
will likely not be able to receive a new iOS in 2021, based on past
Apple practice.  For example, the 4s will not be able to accept iOS 10
that will be out later this year.

Kelly

On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to
eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are they
going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the year? I can
see where a spring release might take some of the thunder away from the
other smart phone manufacturers who line their product releases up with
the show in Barcelona, but I also know that operating system development
is more complicated when you have to support different hardware schedules.

On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to everybody to
do their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not super
technical users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form factor phone
were released. They may hear about it in a news article from a major news
outlet, but the fact is that a large majority of people are users who do
not necessarily follow each Apple Event. Anyhow, when it comes down to it
Apple couldn't care less if they made 10% of their user base mad, after
all, they did this with the iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's
worth, I don't think they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in
September, at this point there would be many more rumours and some of
which from sources who in the past have been very credible and there are
no such rumours.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other
phones last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when the
phone was released, there was a major back up, so people waited weeks
before getting their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple phone
releases, and they admitted that they underestimated the demand for this
particular phone. So, you have a case where people just purchased phone
maybe in June or July, and here we are in September almost, traditional
iPhone release time. If Apple releases a new SE now in sync with all of
its other phone releases, I think the folks who purchased their phones
recently are going to be upset. You know, Apple, why didn't you release
this phone last fall with all of the others? Why did you wait over half a
year, then release the phone, and right on top of it, release another one?
That's why I figure people would not be happy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain
wrote:

Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an
upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came out?
Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something goes on
sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this reasoning since
this would mean the only way to make everyone happy is to never put
something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows they release
new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an SE would know
that there would be a chance Apple might include a smaller form factor
phone in this fall's line up. I don't think Apple would ever promise not
to refresh a phone model any more frequently than once a year. I also
don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on if Apple
upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.


On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I
can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of
people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they
do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in
the past. Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than
likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do,
not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs,
so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good
choice, should be interesting to see what Apple introdu

Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Christine and listers
I'd take your daughter's 5C for a few weeks or months, wait for the 
comments on how the new iPhone 7 is working, and based on those, and as 
some of the others have said on here, depending on what screen size you 
want/prefer to work with, either upgrade to the SE, or the 7. Good luck 
in your final decision!


El 26/08/2016 09:53 p.m., Christopher Chaltain escribió:
Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with 
an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE 
came out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when 
something goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got 
this reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone 
happy is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows 
Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone 
who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might 
include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't 
think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more 
frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an 
SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this 
fall.


On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I 
can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of 
people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if 
they do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing 
things in the past. Smile.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more 
than likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 
plus do, not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the 
iphone 7 specs, so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE 
might be a good choice, should be interesting to see what Apple 
introduces though.

Original message:

Hello Christine,


Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is 
to say, you have access to an interim phone to use until the 
release of iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 
is released before using your upgrade privileges.



Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christine Grassman

Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE


   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade 
toward an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was 
brutally victimized by a car backing up today, and I am now faced 
with using my upgrade for an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C 
until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle of syncing 
two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying to figure 
out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait 
and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main 
features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care 
about, and unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I 
figure I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to 
wow me.


In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use 
my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t 
worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.



TIA.
Christine



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Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

[Dave]

yes, i have 9.3.5, and everything is running fine.

I have it on my iPhone 6s, 6, 4s, and my iPad mini second generation.

But i have never encountered the dictation bug.

I think that particular issue, is handset  specific.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

So, anybody tried 9.3.5 yet?

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Clark" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:17 AM
Subject: RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise


Hello everyone,

What I do is take my thumb, cover the speaker at the bottom of the phone 
while dictating. This lowers the volume enough where it

does not capture the voiceover.

Jeff



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of englishride...@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



I've had this happen as well, but not very often. I just turn off speech 
with a three-finger double-tap, do a two-finger double-tap
to sttart dictation, do another two-finger double-tap to stop dictation, 
then do another three-finger double-tap to turn speech back
on when this issue comes up. Like I said, it's not too offen, and it's easy 
enough to deal with, if a bit annoying. What I'm more
troubled by is the reports on AppleVis about battery life being reduced with 
iOS 9.3.4, in some cases quite seriously.






Thanks,

Ari


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:


What usually happens to me in those instances is that the dictation sort of 
hangs. And then voiceover may start announcing random
words, such as the last word I said or the last punctuation. And then I have 
to turn voiceover off, wait a couple of seconds, turn
it back on, get rid of the junk and go on about my business. Sometimes the 
dictation hanging up lasts for a lot longer than just a
couple of seconds. I have confirmed this on my two devices that are on iOS 
9, as well as a friends iPhone 5s running iOS 9. So it
isn't just me and my devices. Indeed, my friend is cited, and so voice over 
only got turned on for me to see if I could duplicate

the problem on her phone. And it was easily done.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:


I have sometimes come across situations where Voiceover started reading back 
what I dictated while I was still speaking. I just
ignored it and it never seems to interfere with the accuracy of my 
dictation.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



Try using email from a share she say in Facebook or Safari. Or if you happen 
to use Newsify, try sharing an article from there.
Dictate the message that you want to put in advance of your article. You 
will find the problem I guarantee it.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Jeremy Gilley  > wrote:


Yeah,

For someone who uses dictation a lot, I have never came across this problem.

Guess I am just lucky that there is no bug in my version though I have the 
latest version.




 _

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



Interesting how not a single message about this issue was posted on this 
list. Dictation may not work in 9.3.4, but it definitely
worked in previous iOS 9 versions since I used it all the time before 
installing iOS 10 beta so I’m not sure why the article says

this was broken since the beginning in iOS 9.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



I thought many of you would be interested in the following article:

Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

The iPhone 7 is very close 
 
and the all singing all
dancing iOS 10 
 
will come with it.
But right now most iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users are on iOS 9.3.4 and 
Apple   has
confirmed to me it contains a nasty surprise that, for millions, will never 
b

Re: Discounted apps

[MamaPeach]

I use AppShopper Social by AppShopper.com, LLC. You can search for the name 
of an app, and then double tap on "I Want It" and you will then get a 
notification and/or an email when the app either drops in price or when the 
app has an update, depending on how you prefer to get notified, I have it 
set up where I get a notification on my device and I also get an email. I 
have gotten a lot of apps for free with this app that normally cost. You can 
also double tap on "I Have It" if you already own the app you have searched 
for and the app will keep track of all of your apps and alert you when there 
is an update.


-Original Message- 
From: Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Discounted apps

Hello someone posted information regarding an app that will let you know 
when apps are either free or offered at a discounted rate. I've been trying 
to search for the app and have been unable to find it. If anyone knows the 
name of it can you please repost.

Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

[Kelly Pierce]

Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing upgrade
ability to iPhones after five years.  The SE is based on 2015
technology and likely cannot accept the new iOS in 2020.  The iPhone 7
will likely not be able to receive a new iOS in 2021, based on past
Apple practice.  For example, the 4s will not be able to accept iOS 10
that will be out later this year.

Kelly

On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to
> eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are they
> going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the year? I can
> see where a spring release might take some of the thunder away from the
> other smart phone manufacturers who line their product releases up with
> the show in Barcelona, but I also know that operating system development
> is more complicated when you have to support different hardware schedules.
>
> On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to everybody to
>> do their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not super
>> technical users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form factor phone
>> were released. They may hear about it in a news article from a major news
>> outlet, but the fact is that a large majority of people are users who do
>> not necessarily follow each Apple Event. Anyhow, when it comes down to it
>> Apple couldn't care less if they made 10% of their user base mad, after
>> all, they did this with the iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's
>> worth, I don't think they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in
>> September, at this point there would be many more rumours and some of
>> which from sources who in the past have been very credible and there are
>> no such rumours.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>
>> Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other
>> phones last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when the
>> phone was released, there was a major back up, so people waited weeks
>> before getting their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple phone
>> releases, and they admitted that they underestimated the demand for this
>> particular phone. So, you have a case where people just purchased phone
>> maybe in June or July, and here we are in September almost, traditional
>> iPhone release time. If Apple releases a new SE now in sync with all of
>> its other phone releases, I think the folks who purchased their phones
>> recently are going to be upset. You know, Apple, why didn't you release
>> this phone last fall with all of the others? Why did you wait over half a
>> year, then release the phone, and right on top of it, release another one?
>> That's why I figure people would not be happy.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an
>>> upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came out?
>>> Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something goes on
>>> sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this reasoning since
>>> this would mean the only way to make everyone happy is to never put
>>> something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows they release
>>> new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an SE would know
>>> that there would be a chance Apple might include a smaller form factor
>>> phone in this fall's line up. I don't think Apple would ever promise not
>>> to refresh a phone model any more frequently than once a year. I also
>>> don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on if Apple
>>> upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
>>>
 On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
 Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I
 can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of
 people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they
 do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in
 the past. Smile.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>
> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than
> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do,
> not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs,
> so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good
> choice, should be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
> Original message:
>> Hello Christine,
>
>> Were I you

Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

So, anybody tried 9.3.5 yet?

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Clark" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:17 AM
Subject: RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise


Hello everyone,

What I do is take my thumb, cover the speaker at the bottom of the phone while 
dictating. This lowers the volume enough where it 
does not capture the voiceover.

Jeff



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



I've had this happen as well, but not very often. I just turn off speech with a 
three-finger double-tap, do a two-finger double-tap 
to sttart dictation, do another two-finger double-tap to stop dictation, then 
do another three-finger double-tap to turn speech back 
on when this issue comes up. Like I said, it's not too offen, and it's easy 
enough to deal with, if a bit annoying. What I'm more 
troubled by is the reports on AppleVis about battery life being reduced with 
iOS 9.3.4, in some cases quite seriously.





Thanks,

Ari


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What usually happens to me in those instances is that the dictation sort of 
hangs. And then voiceover may start announcing random 
words, such as the last word I said or the last punctuation. And then I have to 
turn voiceover off, wait a couple of seconds, turn 
it back on, get rid of the junk and go on about my business. Sometimes the 
dictation hanging up lasts for a lot longer than just a 
couple of seconds. I have confirmed this on my two devices that are on iOS 9, 
as well as a friends iPhone 5s running iOS 9. So it 
isn't just me and my devices. Indeed, my friend is cited, and so voice over 
only got turned on for me to see if I could duplicate 
the problem on her phone. And it was easily done.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

I have sometimes come across situations where Voiceover started reading back 
what I dictated while I was still speaking. I just 
ignored it and it never seems to interfere with the accuracy of my dictation.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



Try using email from a share she say in Facebook or Safari. Or if you happen to 
use Newsify, try sharing an article from there. 
Dictate the message that you want to put in advance of your article. You will 
find the problem I guarantee it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Jeremy Gilley mailto:j_gil...@att.net> > wrote:

Yeah,

For someone who uses dictation a lot, I have never came across this problem.

Guess I am just lucky that there is no bug in my version though I have the 
latest version.



  _

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



Interesting how not a single message about this issue was posted on this list. 
Dictation may not work in 9.3.4, but it definitely 
worked in previous iOS 9 versions since I used it all the time before 
installing iOS 10 beta so I’m not sure why the article says 
this was broken since the beginning in iOS 9.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise



I thought many of you would be interested in the following article:

Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

The iPhone 7 is very close 

  and the all singing all 
dancing iOS 10 

  will come with it. 
But right now most iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users are on iOS 9.3.4 and Apple 
  has 
confirmed to me it contains a nasty surprise that, for millions, will never be 
fixed…

‘Great Features’ and ‘Nasty Surprises’ are my regular columns investigating 
operating system updates for the best features / biggest 
problems hidden behind the headlines.

The problem in iOS 9.3.4 is an incompatibility between VoiceOver and voice 
dictation which is hitting disabled and, in particular, 
blind users hard. In short: with VoiceOver 
  e

Re: SE V 7...

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi, girls!
Long to short, iPhone SE is more less iPhone 6S in smaller case
  (5/5S design), with smaller screen and with no 3D Touch.
It is significantly cheaper, atleast in my country the SE is
  about 33% cheaper than 6S.
Since I use 6S Plus i can guarantee it is a really astonishing
  experience regarding speed and responsiveness and I wouldn't go
  for slower model.
So, the only thing you need to consider is do you prefer smaller
  or larger screen knowing both have some advantages and
  disadvantages plus do you need 3D Touch or not. Personally, I
  don't use it often, old habits die hard.




  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

27.8.2016. u 7:24, Portia Scott je
  napisao/la:


  
  Yes, I agree.
  
  
  I was considering an iPhone 6S or 6S Plus, but
seeing as the price is so high, I can’t afford it. So maybe,
just maybe, as my backup phone, I’ll consider the SE.
  
  
  Portia.

  
On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Dianne Phelps
  
  wrote:


  
My
  intention is to go with the SE too since while I have
  enjoyed my 6, and have learned to do more with it,
  sometimes, I feel as though things are far tooo spread
  out now, making gestures needing to be larger. Since I
  like to pop my phone into a pocket or pouch round my
  neck, I have decided I want the smaller size. If the
  camera is just as good on the SE, I truly would like
  to go back to something smaller to carry, though
  photography is not as important to me as it would be
  if I still had some vision. Besides, I don’t want to
  have to convert to bluetoth head phones. I’ll have to
  wait until my contract is up next spring before I can
  upgrade. My 6 has had good solid use which I can’t say
  for the other models.
 
Parenthetically,
  I have not had the nasty problem in 9.34, though I
  find I must dictate very distinctly with Siri. I wish
  it heard words a bit better, but perhaps, eventually.
  It’s far better than it used to be back in the 4S
  days.
 
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Napa,
  California
  
  
  
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Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker

[Robert Doc Wright]

earlier I saw a post informing us about a wrist band bluetooth speaker by BEM. 
I found another  on Amazon that worked right out of the box .


Woopower Mini Bluetooth Speaker Watch Wireless Speakers Bracelet Wristband Band 
for Mobile Phones Support MP3 Music Player, FM Radio, Hands-free Calls,
Self-timer, Anti-Lost Alarm for Sports (White)
$25.95
$16.95
Amazon Prime

This is accessible right out of the box. From just fumbling with the buttons I 
had it working and paired in a couple of minutes or less.  Imagine my surprise 
when it began speaking english although in an Asian accent. 

This is an amazing speaker and you would think that it was made specifically 
with blind consumers in mind.  
(Note that my references are for persons who wear their watches on their left 
arm.)
On the side closest to your hand there are 4 buttons.  working from the outer 
wrist to the inner I will number them 1, 2, 3 and 4.   On the arm side is a 
cover which is protecting the SD card slot and the USB CHARGE PORT.

Buttons: 
1 power/play/answer Hold it in for a count of 3 to turn it on or off. While on 
and pared press it once to play audio and again to pause. when a call comes in 
press once to answer.   

2.  volume down/track backwards  Hold down to lower volume. When music is 
playing press once to restart the track press twice quickly to go to the 
previous track.

3. Volume up /track forward  Hold down to raise the volume.  Press once to move 
to the next track.

4. mode  Hold for a count of 4 to toggle between iDevice and FM radio. It will 
verbably announce radio mode.
  (note: buttons 2 & 3 move you through the stations.
SD card slot.  Be sure device is off before inserting or ejecting SD card.  
when card is in place, ridge side up, power on and it plays immediately.

charging  Plug USB cable in teeth side down.  

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Re: E-Mail Client

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi, Mary!
I installed Inbox few days ago to test it and, I can't say I like
  it. I don't prefer threaded view and it is default and not
  changable in it just as it is not on the Gmail app.
I suppose I should give it a shot with Outlook if they fix the
  silence on edit fields.



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27.8.2016. u 2:36, Mary Otten je
  napisao/la:


  
  Hi Gordon,
I have heard there will be some changes in the upcoming version
of the stock mail app on iOS. It has been talked about in the
mainstream technical press. Hopefully, it isn't too awful. As
for aqua mail, yes, I have played with settings. I can certainly
delete all of the messages in my inbox quickly enough. But what
I haven't found a way to do which I can do on iOS, is to
actually go through my mail and interact with it efficiently,
 Reading messages and replying as I wish, and or deleting
threads I don't want to read with just one flick of my finger as
I go. Google dictation does seem to be fairly accurate. Perhaps
it is a little bit more accurate for me than Apple. But because
I have such a hard time correcting mistakes, which it certainly
does make, I would rather have Apple, even if it's a little bit
less accurate, because I can fix it easier. I have heard that
Siri is going to get much better in the next version. Whether
that will carry over to dictation remains to be seen of course.
Have you tried the app that Kevin recommended on here a little
while back, inbox by Gmail I think was the name? It only works
for Google accounts. So if you have things other than Google,
then it's not good for you.
Mary

  
  
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On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić 
wrote:

  
  

  
  Hi!
  @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch
or iPad, it would probably work on all iOS devices.
  @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be
a large turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm
looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail on some Android
devices and I like its options, features and tones of
settings for fine tuning its operativity.
  I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is
harder to handle than iOS but as you correctly said, it
doesn't have to do anything with the app itself. Regarding
dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google Speech
Input or whatever is it called in English than Siri
Dictation, atleast for my native language.
  I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty
similar way so I don't know did you played with Aquamail
settins?
  
  @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.
  
  
  
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  26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je
napisao/la:
  
  
I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two cents.
Mary


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  On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  wrote:

I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select and delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's still more efficient and doesn't take l

Re: E-Mail Client

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's
  new in incoming iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view
  in Mail app is not separated by message as it was till now. Now it
  is more like conversation view similar to text and iMessages and
  there is a new option in rotor called "message" which will enable
  you to switch between messages in conversation.
I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate
  messages and that's why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like
  threads and I'm using it only for some mail groups I'm subscribed
  to.



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27.8.2016. u 0:46,
  englishride...@gmail.com je napisao/la:


  
  What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the
mail app's interface in iOS 10?
  
  
  
  
  Thanks,
  Ari
  
On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić 
wrote:

  
  

  
  Hi!
  @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch
or iPad, it would probably work on all iOS devices.
  @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be
a large turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm
looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail on some Android
devices and I like its options, features and tones of
settings for fine tuning its operativity.
  I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is
harder to handle than iOS but as you correctly said, it
doesn't have to do anything with the app itself. Regarding
dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google Speech
Input or whatever is it called in English than Siri
Dictation, atleast for my native language.
  I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty
similar way so I don't know did you played with Aquamail
settins?
  
  @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.
  
  
  
S poštovanjem
  Gordan
  Radić

  

   
  

  


 

   
  
   
  
   
  

  

  
  26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je
napisao/la:
  
  
I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two cents.
Mary


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  On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  wrote:

I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select and delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and again! 


It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in my hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a keyboard; but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long message.


Carol P




  
On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Gordon,
I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am curious what you specifically like about it over what's available in the native iOS mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't like it, principally because it's not as efficient to delete large quantities of mail. I shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It just doesn't let me go through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the Apple client does. That's why am curious why you like it.


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  On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gorda