Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Robert Doc Wright]

it reminds me of redchair software which had this ability years ago. then 
they disappeared.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows


I just wonder if Apple won't shut this down once it learns of it. Do you 
know if it was developed in collaboration with Apple? Thanks, Keith


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of christopher hallsworth

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:24 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Waltr2? For Windows? That's news to me. I thought it was *only* for the mac. 
Thanks for sharing. ANd no, that blind Apple representative wouldn't have 
problems with iTunes on his or her mac, because it is 100% accessible on 
there, and it will be because of their own screen reader VoiceOver. Lol! But 
that's no excuse to not make it 100% accessible on Windows.

On 21 Nov 2016, at 18:01, Thom Spittle  wrote:

Hi Listers,
I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called 
waltr2.

Their site is
http://www.softorino.com
It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice 
without the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is 
accessible, for the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the 
computer and launch waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and 
open the familiar windows dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what 
I wanted to transfer in one folder and selected all. It puts the items 
where they should go on your iDevice.

It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great.
There is a 24 hour full trial.
I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature.
If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to 
MP4 and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is.


I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said 
that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no 
problems on his mac. Lol.


Go figure.

If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know.

Thom
thom3...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the 
originals?



Carol P - UK



On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you
to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
- Original Message - From: "denise avant"

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows



Hello everyone,
Thanks for the input.  I thought there might be some workarounds for
some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in
windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what
was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the
need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time
to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us
simply connected our cables to our computers to download
I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my  contacts and
other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using
iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help.
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA
isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few
scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a
huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some
pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can
get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it
as good as it can be.
The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the
site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a
screenreader.

Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows

Denise,

If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then,
suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.

Todd

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with wi

Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Robert Doc Wright]

yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to 
purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house.
- Original Message - 
From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows


Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the 
originals?



Carol P - UK



On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to 
copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
- Original Message - From: "denise avant" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
windows




Hello everyone,
Thanks for the input.  I thought there might be some workarounds for some 
of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has 
gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible 
when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync 
data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can 
remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected 
our cables to our computers to download
I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my  contacts and other 
material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in 
windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts 
out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge 
difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty 
major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the 
information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it 
can be.
The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site 
is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a 
screenreader.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Patkus

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
windows


Denise,

If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest 
you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.


Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
windows


I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of denise avant

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Hello everyone,
I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it 
is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my 
iPhone 6s plus  to my new windows computer I have the latest version of 
itunes  I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in 
iTunes to navigate it with JAWS  better? Thank you


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Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Robert Doc Wright]

I heard that blindTunes  really went up in price. Does anyone have any up to 
date information?
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows


It would be interesting to know if the BlindTunes scripts make selecting 
apps and tones for syncing possible. I use Leasey Advanced and there are a 
few things in Leasey which help a bit with iTunes, but nothing that goes 
that deep.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Tony Hernandez

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

I'm a bit of a Johnny-come-lately on this thread, but has anyone mentioned 
the BlindTunes scripts? I haven't used iTunes in ages, but I used these 
scripts with a fair degree of success when I did use the program. I've since 
changed computers and simply haven't gotten around to putting iTunes on it, 
no need.



On 11/21/2016 7:10 AM, Hope Paulos wrote:

Good morning everyone… In order for peoples voices to be heard
regarding accessibility of iTunes, it is my opinion, that both
companies need to be contacted. You can even send the same email to both 
if you'd like… The address to contact VFO Formally freedom scientific, is: 
suggesti...@vfo-group.com The address to contact Apple is:

accessibil...@apple.com
The person that mentioned that Apple needs to make the changes first, is 
correct.

Take care, and have a great day!

Hope Paulos

On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Larry Smith  
wrote:


Smiles, Todd, have a great day!

On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

Larry,

You are mistaken.  I am not angry, just being very firm about what I 
said.  That is it.  Please watch out your language.  You used a bad word 
here.  Rip it off.


Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Smith
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows

Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as 
though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will 
respond. But It’s ok.

On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

Sieghard,

I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS".  Do not get on top 
of me!  Watch out what you are going to say.  All I did was suggest her 
contact them.  That is it!


Todd

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows

Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts 
out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge 
difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty 
major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the 
information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it 
can be.
The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site 
is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a 
screenreader.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows

Denise,

If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest 
you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.


Todd

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows

I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of denise avant
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows

Hello everyone,
I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if
it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc
from my iPhone 6s plus  to my new windows computer I have the
latest version of itunes  I am also wondering if I needed to change
any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS  better?
Thank you

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Re: New member

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Welcome Wayne.  I hope you learn a lot here.
Connie

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> On Nov 21, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
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I also just joined this group last week. I am Wayn
>From Boise Idaho. Wayne Scott

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> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:03 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> welcome dominique!
> if you are running version 9X on your for S, you shouldn't find it too much 
> of a learning curve when you get your 6S. I only have a six, so I don't have 
> 3D Touch, but I think that might be the main thing you will have to get to 
> grips with. of course, you can disable it, but it looks like a useful tool. 
> however, the 6S is larger than the for S, so it won't fit in your pocket 
> quite as comfortable E. personally speaking, I would love it if they would 
> produce an iPhone eight, with all its potential bells and whistles, which is 
> the same size as the for S, as that phone, for me, is the perfect size. 
> 
> anyway, welcome to the list and I look forward to your contributions.
> Good luck, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 20 Nov 2016, at 16:27, Dominique Farrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I’m a new member from Dublin, Ireland and am an iPhone user for it will be 
>> two years this Christmas that I got my 4S, and am in the process of saving 
>> for a 6S, and am just wondering will I have much to learn then?
>>  
>> I never used an I Device before then and all my phones were keypad, so it 
>> took a lot of getting used to, but I persevered and was determined to 
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>>  
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RE: Delete & remove in iOS

[Todd Patkus]

Julian and Rajmund,

Please be careful.  You stated I am not an English native speaker.  This is 
incorrect.

Remind you, Mark the moderator already posted a note to all of y'all.  Please 
say no more.

Todd

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS



As I read this exchange it occurs to me that perhaps Todd may not be a native 
English speaker, so perhaps there may be a language barrier thus causing 
something to be lost in translation. I don't see this as a way to excuse nasty 
behavior, but, sometimes when words are not translated correctly it could lead 
to misunderstandings.

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> On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:55 PM, rajmund  wrote:
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> Hello,
> He's certainly older than me, knows Rich for 35 years, as we've been told 
> about 10 times the last 7 days.  I didn't even exist back then myself.
> 
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> 
> - Original Message -
> From: regina alvarado  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:00:08 -0500
> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
> 
> Mr.  Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of 
> his posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help him.  I 
> do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in a wheelchair, 
> have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside the country, U.S., 
> there is no need to be nasty.  There is far, far too much of that going 
> around.  It is time he try and make a point without attacking the very folks 
> who are helping him.  I have a hearing deficit also and frustration with some 
> parts of iPhone, but I lived when there were no computers much less voice or 
> braille displays.  Talk about frustration.  I had to use an Optacon to read 
> my whole screen on my first computer at work.  Couldn't even do that With 
> just a typewriter.  I do not know his age, but it does come across as a 
> spoiled child.  Jonathan is never nasty, and he has a worse hearing 
> difficulty than me..  Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me thinks not!!! (smiles 
> and hugs) On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr.  Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Reggie,
> Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board.  So he cannot use the method 
> you gave him.
> Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by step 
> but Todd stated they did not work for him.
> Mr.  Ed
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of regina alvarado
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
> 
> Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it.  Maybe you are 
> using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much trouble, but 
> I am sorry it doesn't work for you.  I had arrange apps, tapped on that, went 
> to the activate choice, double tapped with one finger on that and I could 
> delete completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on.  I am" using IOS 
> 10.1.1 or the latest.
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
> 
> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I 
> tried doing so, it will not.  It says "Your Homekit will not be deleted".  
> This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> 
> Yes, y'all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc.  fails to 
> realize.
> 
> Also, Health app does not show "activate" or "Arranging apps".  What kind of 
> thing is that?
> 
> Use your common sense!
> 
> That is all I can say now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Todd
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Removing First Page From Home Screen

[Joe]

Hi, is there a way to remove the first page, the widgets page, from the home
screen? I'm basically looking for Spotlight Search to only pop up when asked
to present itself. Not sure if that makes any sense. Thanks for any help.

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Hello Everyone,

I am primarily posting this for the benefit of our newest list members who
may not be aware of our general list policies.

Earlier, in a different post, I requested that the thread with the subject
of "Delete & remove in iOS", be closed, in part, because it would appear
that everyone wanted to have the proverbial final word with each word being
more hostile than the previous one, so to speak.

Rarely do I have to make such requests, in this community, primarily because
our members respect the opinions of others even when those opinions differ.


Now there are some who struggle with the concept of agreeing to disagree.
These individuals will always have a rebuttal even to the most reasonable
arguments.  Such individuals tend to disrupt the overall harmony of a
community in so much that they refuse to agree to disagree.  

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and diplomacy when posting on-list, especially when responding to a post
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In short, do not attack or post disparaging comments about a fellow list
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If you have a problem with a fellow list member, I strongly suggest that you
(1) take a deep breath and (2) deal with that member, off-list.  

I would ask that all of you trust Cara and me to monitor the on-list decorum
of members; and that you trust that we will not allow any one individual to
compromise the fabric of mutual respect we have created here.

Now, relax, take it easy, and have a wonderful, accessible week.

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RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Hi Thom,

This interests me greatly and I'll be looking at it more closely as soon as I 
can. What are you saying  by your comment that it works wel, for the most part? 
What doesn't work properly and is the software provider going to fix it any 
time soon?

It seems that, even if we don't get a good version of iTunares we're probably 
going to see some alternatives and that can't be a bad thing. Personally, I 
just don't want to bother with iTunes any more because, as soon as you get just 
a little bit used to a new version with all the things that do and do not work, 
it's changed again! I certainly want to transfer to and from my phone. By the 
way, can you save to the program as well as put music etc into your phone?

I'll just have to look at it now, wont i!

I may also look at the other program menbbned in this thread, time permitting!

Anyway, I'll look forward to any further comments you may be able to make and 
will be pleased to get in touch with you once I've purchased.

Carol P—UK

On 21 Nov 2016 18:01, Thom Spittle  wrote:
>
> Hi Listers, 
> I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called 
> waltr2. 
> Their site is 
> http://www.softorino.com 
> It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without 
> the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for 
> the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch 
> waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows 
> dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one 
> folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your 
> iDevice. 
> It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great. 
> There is a 24 hour full trial. 
> I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature. 
> If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 
> and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is. 
>
> I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said 
> that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems 
> on his mac. Lol. 
>
> Go figure. 
>
> If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know. 
>
> Thom 
> thom3...@gmail.com 
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows 
>
> Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the 
> originals? 
>
>
> Carol P - UK 
>
>
>
> On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: 
> > there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you 
> > to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. 
> > - Original Message - From: "denise avant" 
> >  
> > To:  
> > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM 
> > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
> > windows 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello everyone, 
> > Thanks for the input.  I thought there might be some workarounds for 
> > some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in 
> > windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what 
> > was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the 
> > need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time 
> > to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us 
> > simply connected our cables to our computers to download 
> > I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my  contacts and 
> > other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using 
> > iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> >> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
> >> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few 
> >> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a 
> >> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some 
> >> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can 
> >> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it 
> >> as good as it can be. 
> >> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
> >> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the 
> >> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a 
> >> screenreader. 
> >> 
> >> Regards, 
> >> Sieghard 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message- 
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >> Behalf Of Todd Patkus 
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM 
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
> >> windows 
> >> 
> >> Denise, 
> >> 
> >> If you feel strong enough t

Accessible Roku is coming

[Mary Otten]

Roku is rolling out a firmware update for their current products, such as the 
streaming stick, which is presently on sale at both Best Buy and Amazon for 
$34.99. When updated, these products will feature and audio guide, which is 
supposed to enable blind people being able to navigate the system via a screen 
reader. The firmware is supposed to be available for all of the current devices 
by mid December according to Roku. Why is this relevant to this list? There is 
an iPhone app for Roku devices. One of the things this app lets you do is voice 
search. You can't do a voice search with the remote that comes with the cheaper 
Roku was such as the express or the streaming stick. You may be able to do 
other things with the iPhone app as well, such as navigate the system. I have 
no idea if it's accessible on the iPhone. And I would be willing to bet that 
once you open an app on the system such as Netflix or the Amazon app, it might 
not be accessible. They're only talking about the menu system and navigating 
around the screen, rather like what you get with voice view on the fire stick 
or with some apps, like sling TV on Apple TV. So, it's hit or miss. But Roku 
has a ton of channels. And some of them you just tap and play. So if this 
interests you, go for it.
Mary


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MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Delete & remove in iOS

[M. Taylor]

Everyone,  

Please close this thread.

There have been a great deal of views expressed on this subject and now it's 
time to move on.

Thank you,

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

Hi,
Only know English for 6 years, and unless I'm defending myself off list, and 
even there, I'm more of a sarcastic type, if anything. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Julian  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 21, 2016 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

>
>
> 
> As I read this exchange it occurs to me that perhaps Todd may not be a native 
> English speaker, so perhaps there may be a language barrier thus causing 
> something to be lost in translation. I don't see this as a way to excuse 
> nasty behavior, but, sometimes when words are not translated correctly it 
> could lead to misunderstandings.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:55 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > He's certainly older than me, knows Rich for 35 years, as we've been told 
> > about 10 times the last 7 days.  I didn't even exist back then myself.
> > 
> > Sent from a BrailleNote
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: regina alvarado  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date sent: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:00:08 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> > 
> > 
> > Mr.  Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of 
> > his posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help him.  
> > I do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in a 
> > wheelchair, have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside the 
> > country, U.S., there is no need to be nasty.  There is far, far too much of 
> > that going around.  It is time he try and make a point without attacking 
> > the very folks who are helping him.  I have a hearing deficit also and 
> > frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there were no 
> > computers much less voice or braille displays.  Talk about frustration.  I 
> > had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my first computer at work. 
> >  Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter.  I do not know his age, but 
> > it does come across as a spoiled child.  Jonathan is never nasty, and he 
> > has a worse hearing difficulty than me..  Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me 
> > thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs) On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr.  Ed 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Reggie,
> > Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board.  So he cannot use the 
> > method you gave him.
> > Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by 
> > step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
> > Mr.  Ed
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of regina alvarado
> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> > 
> > 
> > Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it.  Maybe you are 
> > using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much trouble, 
> > but I am sorry it doesn't work for you.  I had arrange apps, tapped on 
> > that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one finger on that 
> > and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on.  I 
> > am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest.
> > 
> > 
> > Reggie and Lex
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
> > 
> > All:
> > 
> > Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
> > 
> > One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I 
> > tried doing so, it will not.  It says "Your Homekit will not be deleted".  
> > This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> > 
> > Yes, y'all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc.  fails to 
> > realize.
> > 
> > Also, Health app does not show "activate" or "Arranging apps".  What kind 
> > of thing is that?
> > 
> > Use your common sense!
> > 
> > That is all I can say now.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Todd
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Looking for some apps, need help!

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


So I am loving my Apple tv, 4th generation! I mess with it almost every 
day. I am glad, and happy that I listened to some of you who suggested 
that I make the transition.


As I have mentioned before, I do not have cable. I currently just 
receive over the air tv. For the most part, I am fine with this. But I 
do miss certain channels.

However, I haven't had cable for about 2 years now. But I enjoy certain 
shows, and I like movies.


So to get to my point, and the subject of my message. I am needing some 
help finding some accessible apps for the Apple tv. They can either be 
free, or something I would have to pay for. But I really couldn't afford 
to pay more than $10. Unless it was something pretty unique that I 
liked. Then I might consider possibly paying more.


I currently have Netflix, Hulu, CBS all-access, and Crackle, which I 
really haven't checked out yet.


I would really like to find some pretty accessible apps that show 
classic tv shows from the US, or maybe even Canada. I would also like to 
possibly find some apps that sho classic game shows.

I am also interested in classic cartoons, from the 60's, to the 90's.

I would also like some news channels. I'm not really in to business type 
stuff. More technology, current events, international news, and some 
cultural stuff.

No gossep type stuff. Yuck!


I am also hoping to find Apps for movies. I like some commedies, not 
anything too sarcastic, or mean, or ugly. I also like romantic 
commedies. I enjoy some children's movies, as I am a big kid at heart. I 
enjoy action, and adventure stuff, and romantic movies.

I'm sure there are more. But that's what I can think of at the moment. I 
enjoy movies from about the fifties, and up.


So do any of you think you can help me?

Are there any apps out there that exist for all this stuff?

I know it's likely a longshot. But I have to try.


I don't mind signing up at a website, or having to enter a code of some 
sort. I will just need to know if I will need to do this for the app, so 
I have sighted assistance for receiving the code. Well, reading it, that is.


Any advice, thoughts, or app suggestions any of you may have, would be 
very much appreciated!


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: speaking bar

[englishrider91]

One thing the article doesn't, is that poor cat voiceOver, you do the two 
finger swipe down after touching an icon on the status bar to get speak screen 
reading.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 1:15 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, Brian. You may find the following podcast by Jonathan Mosen useful.
> iOS 8’s Speak Screen Feature. Listen to iBooks with your Screen Locked and 
> More:
> http://mosen.org/ios-8s-speak-screen-feature-listen-to-ibooks-with-your-screen-locked-and-more/
> 
> If you'd prefer an article with instructions on how to use this feature 
> instead of a podcast, take a look at the following link.
> New in iOS 8: Start Text-To-Speech Easily with Speak Screen:
> http://bdmtech.blogspot.com/2014/09/new-in-ios-8-start-text-to-speech.html?m=1
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:42 AM, brian albriton  wrote:
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>> This thing that says  minimize or maximize speaking bar comes up on my phone 
>> from time to time.  What is that? 
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Re: speaking bar

[englishrider91]

Hi, Brian. You may find the following podcast by Jonathan Mosen useful.
iOS 8’s Speak Screen Feature. Listen to iBooks with your Screen Locked and More:
http://mosen.org/ios-8s-speak-screen-feature-listen-to-ibooks-with-your-screen-locked-and-more/

If you'd prefer an article with instructions on how to use this feature instead 
of a podcast, take a look at the following link.
New in iOS 8: Start Text-To-Speech Easily with Speak Screen:
http://bdmtech.blogspot.com/2014/09/new-in-ios-8-start-text-to-speech.html?m=1


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: speaking bar

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Brian,

That appears if you have turned on Speak Screen. This is in Accessibility 
settings, in Speech.

Best,
Anna



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question avg antivirus on Mac

[Gianni]

Hello,
I just installed Avg antivirus on my Mac. I opened the app, but where do I have 
to click to start scanning? The app is not really accessible.


Gianni

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RE: iPhones on Consumer Cellular network

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Cher,

I have installed two iPhones on Consumer Cellular with no issues. I think they 
are a great service and they will also save you a ton of money.  Their tech 
support is great.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Subject: iPhones on Consumer Cellular network

 

Has anyone who switched to Consumer Cellular found that they lost any phone 
functionality. I was told by one of their reps that there is a possibility that 
some features may not transfer from our AT&T network to theirs. Thanks for 
sharing your experiences.

 

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Re: Accessible Sudoku Apps?

[Michael Feir]

there is another sudoku option that is accessible the app is called sudoku
for all perhaps that will meet your needs.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:36 PM Dani Pagador  wrote:

> Hi, Everyone.
> Are there any VO accessible Sudoku apps out there besides BlindFold Sudoku?
>
> I'll be going on a trip in the next week and will want something to do
> while I'm on the plane or waiting at the airport. Sudoku seems like
> just the thing, and I'd like to be able to work on a puzzle I'm doing
> i.e., enter it in to the app and use the app to solve it.
>
> I have a Braille display, but don't want to take out any more
> technology than I need to e.g., it'll be either the iPod Touch or the
> Braille display, not both that comes out while sitting aroun waiting.
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
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Accessible Sudoku Apps?

[Dani Pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
Are there any VO accessible Sudoku apps out there besides BlindFold Sudoku?

I'll be going on a trip in the next week and will want something to do
while I'm on the plane or waiting at the airport. Sudoku seems like
just the thing, and I'd like to be able to work on a puzzle I'm doing
i.e., enter it in to the app and use the app to solve it.

I have a Braille display, but don't want to take out any more
technology than I need to e.g., it'll be either the iPod Touch or the
Braille display, not both that comes out while sitting aroun waiting.

Thanks,
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Re: Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader

[Mary Otten]

Hi Tom,
Thanks for the offer. I did actually get it into K NFB. And I did the OCR, but 
it is a bunch of lab test results, which are personal anyway. And the OCR came 
out in such a way that it doesn't make sense. I suspect they're in a table, but 
they didn't format as such. So, I'll just have to wait until I get to talk to 
my doctor. Thanks for your offer.
Mary


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> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
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> I'd be glad to tinker with it on my device. Do you have a picture pdf that 
> you can send to me?
> 
> Thom thom3...@gmail.com
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> ruby alphonse
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader
> 
>> On 11/19/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Usually, if I get an email attachment that is a PDF, I get choices 
>> like where I want to open it, such as voice dream reader or whatever. 
>> But I just got one from my doctor. It is an image only, and I'm not 
>> getting any choices. I would like to open it in KN FB to see how it 
>> might OCR. But I don't seem to have anyway of getting the attachment 
>> from the Mail app to KN FB. Any help?
>> 
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> with the help of Braigo get the file to read it for you, Braigo tells you the 
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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Rajmund]

Hi,
Only know English for 6 years, and unless I'm defending myself off list, and 
even there, I'm more of a sarcastic type, if anything. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Julian  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 21, 2016 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

>
>
> 
> As I read this exchange it occurs to me that perhaps Todd may not be a native 
> English speaker, so perhaps there may be a language barrier thus causing 
> something to be lost in translation. I don't see this as a way to excuse 
> nasty behavior, but, sometimes when words are not translated correctly it 
> could lead to misunderstandings.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:55 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > He's certainly older than me, knows Rich for 35 years, as we've been told 
> > about 10 times the last 7 days.  I didn't even exist back then myself.
> > 
> > Sent from a BrailleNote
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: regina alvarado  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date sent: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:00:08 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> > 
> > 
> > Mr.  Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of his 
> > posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help him.  I do 
> > not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in a wheelchair, 
> > have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside the country, U.S., 
> > there is no need to be nasty.  There is far, far too much of that going 
> > around.  It is time he try and make a point without attacking the very 
> > folks who are helping him.  I have a hearing deficit also and frustration 
> > with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there were no computers much 
> > less voice or braille displays.  Talk about frustration.  I had to use an 
> > Optacon to read my whole screen on my first computer at work.  Couldn't 
> > even do that With just a typewriter.  I do not know his age, but it does 
> > come across as a spoiled child.  Jonathan is never nasty, and he has a 
> > worse hearing difficulty than me..  Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me thinks 
> > not!!! (smiles and hugs)
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr.  Ed  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Reggie,
> > Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board.  So he cannot use the 
> > method you gave him.
> > Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by 
> > step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
> > Mr.  Ed
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of regina alvarado
> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> > 
> > 
> > Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it.  Maybe you are 
> > using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much trouble, 
> > but I am sorry it doesn't work for you.  I had arrange apps, tapped on 
> > that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one finger on that 
> > and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on.  I 
> > am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest.
> > 
> > 
> > Reggie and Lex
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
> > 
> > All:
> > 
> > Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
> > 
> > One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I 
> > tried doing so, it will not.  It says "Your Homekit will not be deleted".  
> > This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> > 
> > Yes, y'all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc.  fails to 
> > realize.
> > 
> > Also, Health app does not show "activate" or "Arranging apps".  What kind 
> > of thing is that?
> > 
> > Use your common sense!
> > 
> > That is all I can say now.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Todd
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speaking bar

[brian albriton]

This thing that says  minimize or maximize speaking bar comes up on my phone 
from time to time.  What is that? 

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RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

I just wonder if Apple won't shut this down once it learns of it. Do you know 
if it was developed in collaboration with Apple? Thanks, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:24 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Waltr2? For Windows? That's news to me. I thought it was *only* for the mac. 
Thanks for sharing. ANd no, that blind Apple representative wouldn't have 
problems with iTunes on his or her mac, because it is 100% accessible on there, 
and it will be because of their own screen reader VoiceOver. Lol! But that's no 
excuse to not make it 100% accessible on Windows.
> On 21 Nov 2016, at 18:01, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> Hi Listers,
> I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called waltr2.
> Their site is 
> http://www.softorino.com
> It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without 
> the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for 
> the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch 
> waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows 
> dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one 
> folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your 
> iDevice. 
> It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great.
> There is a 24 hour full trial.
> I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature.
> If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 
> and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is.
> 
> I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said 
> that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems 
> on his mac. Lol.
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know.
> 
> Thom
> thom3...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
> 
> Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the 
> originals?
> 
> 
> Carol P - UK
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>> there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you 
>> to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
>> - Original Message - From: "denise avant" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>> windows
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> Thanks for the input.  I thought there might be some workarounds for 
>> some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in 
>> windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what 
>> was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the 
>> need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time 
>> to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us 
>> simply connected our cables to our computers to download
>> I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my  contacts and 
>> other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using 
>> iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
>>> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few 
>>> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a 
>>> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some 
>>> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can 
>>> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it 
>>> as good as it can be.
>>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
>>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the 
>>> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a 
>>> screenreader.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Todd Patkus
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>>> windows
>>> 
>>> Denise,
>>> 
>>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, 
>>> suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.

iPhones on Consumer Cellular network

[Cher Bosch]

Has anyone who switched to Consumer Cellular found that they lost any phone
functionality. I was told by one of their reps that there is a possibility
that some features may not transfer from our AT&T network to theirs. Thanks
for sharing your experiences.

 

Cher

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Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[christopher hallsworth]

Waltr2? For Windows? That's news to me. I thought it was *only* for the mac. 
Thanks for sharing. ANd no, that blind Apple representative wouldn't have 
problems with iTunes on his or her mac, because it is 100% accessible on there, 
and it will be because of their own screen reader VoiceOver. Lol! But that's no 
excuse to not make it 100% accessible on Windows.
> On 21 Nov 2016, at 18:01, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> Hi Listers,
> I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called waltr2.
> Their site is 
> http://www.softorino.com
> It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without 
> the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for 
> the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch 
> waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows 
> dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one 
> folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your 
> iDevice. 
> It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great.
> There is a 24 hour full trial.
> I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature.
> If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 
> and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is.
> 
> I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said 
> that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems 
> on his mac. Lol.
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know.
> 
> Thom
> thom3...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
> 
> Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the 
> originals?
> 
> 
> Carol P - UK
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>> there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you 
>> to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
>> - Original Message - From: "denise avant" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>> windows
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> Thanks for the input.  I thought there might be some workarounds for 
>> some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in 
>> windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what 
>> was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the 
>> need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time 
>> to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us 
>> simply connected our cables to our computers to download
>> I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my  contacts and 
>> other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using 
>> iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
>>> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few 
>>> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a 
>>> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some 
>>> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can 
>>> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it 
>>> as good as it can be.
>>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
>>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the 
>>> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a 
>>> screenreader.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Todd Patkus
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>>> windows
>>> 
>>> Denise,
>>> 
>>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, 
>>> suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>>> windows
>>> 
>>> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of denise avant
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Latest versi

RE: Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader

[Thom Spittle]

I'd be glad to tinker with it on my device. Do you have a picture pdf that you 
can send to me?

Thom thom3...@gmail.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
ruby alphonse
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader

On 11/19/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Usually, if I get an email attachment that is a PDF, I get choices 
> like where I want to open it, such as voice dream reader or whatever. 
> But I just got one from my doctor. It is an image only, and I'm not 
> getting any choices. I would like to open it in KN FB to see how it 
> might OCR. But I don't seem to have anyway of getting the attachment 
> from the Mail app to KN FB. Any help?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Hi Mary, have you got an APP called Braigo? it tells you the image as well as 
reads the text for you. you just try to save the PDF file into drop box and 
with the help of Braigo get the file to read it for you, Braigo tells you the 
image and reads everything very clearly. only thing you have to have your 
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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Julian]

As I read this exchange it occurs to me that perhaps Todd may not be a native 
English speaker, so perhaps there may be a language barrier thus causing 
something to be lost in translation. I don't see this as a way to excuse nasty 
behavior, but, sometimes when words are not translated correctly it could lead 
to misunderstandings.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:55 PM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> He's certainly older than me, knows Rich for 35 years, as we've been told 
> about 10 times the last 7 days.  I didn't even exist back then myself.
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: regina alvarado  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:00:08 -0500
> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
> 
> Mr.  Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of his 
> posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help him.  I do 
> not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in a wheelchair, 
> have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside the country, U.S., 
> there is no need to be nasty.  There is far, far too much of that going 
> around.  It is time he try and make a point without attacking the very folks 
> who are helping him.  I have a hearing deficit also and frustration with some 
> parts of iPhone, but I lived when there were no computers much less voice or 
> braille displays.  Talk about frustration.  I had to use an Optacon to read 
> my whole screen on my first computer at work.  Couldn't even do that With 
> just a typewriter.  I do not know his age, but it does come across as a 
> spoiled child.  Jonathan is never nasty, and he has a worse hearing 
> difficulty than me..  Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me thinks not!!! (smiles 
> and hugs)
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr.  Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Reggie,
> Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board.  So he cannot use the method 
> you gave him.
> Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by step 
> but Todd stated they did not work for him.
> Mr.  Ed
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
> 
> Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it.  Maybe you are 
> using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much trouble, but 
> I am sorry it doesn't work for you.  I had arrange apps, tapped on that, went 
> to the activate choice, double tapped with one finger on that and I could 
> delete completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on.  I am" using IOS 
> 10.1.1 or the latest.
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
> 
> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I 
> tried doing so, it will not.  It says "Your Homekit will not be deleted".  
> This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> 
> Yes, y'all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc.  fails to 
> realize.
> 
> Also, Health app does not show "activate" or "Arranging apps".  What kind of 
> thing is that?
> 
> Use your common sense!
> 
> That is all I can say now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Todd
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RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Thom Spittle]

If anyone is interested, I think I have the latest version of iTunes 12 that 
works with JAWS. I can send a link to my sendspace file.
 
Thom

thom3...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals?


Carol P - UK



On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
> there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you 
> to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
> - Original Message - From: "denise avant" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
> windows
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> Thanks for the input.  I thought there might be some workarounds for 
> some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in 
> windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what 
> was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the 
> need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time 
> to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us 
> simply connected our cables to our computers to download
> I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my  contacts and 
> other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using 
> iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
>> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few 
>> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a 
>> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some 
>> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can 
>> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it 
>> as good as it can be.
>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the 
>> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a 
>> screenreader.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Todd Patkus
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>> windows
>>
>> Denise,
>>
>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, 
>> suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>> windows
>>
>> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of denise avant
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if 
>> it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc 
>> from my iPhone 6s plus  to my new windows computer I have the latest 
>> version of itunes  I am also wondering if I needed to change any of 
>> the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS  better? Thank you
>>
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RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Thom Spittle]

Hi Listers,
I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called waltr2.
Their site is 
http://www.softorino.com
It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without 
the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for the 
most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch waltr2. You 
see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows dialog box 
for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one folder and 
selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your iDevice. 
It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great.
There is a 24 hour full trial.
I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature.
If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 
and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is.

I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said that 
they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems on his 
mac. Lol.

Go figure.

If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know.

Thom
thom3...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals?


Carol P - UK



On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
> there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you 
> to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
> - Original Message - From: "denise avant" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
> windows
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> Thanks for the input.  I thought there might be some workarounds for 
> some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in 
> windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what 
> was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the 
> need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time 
> to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us 
> simply connected our cables to our computers to download
> I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my  contacts and 
> other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using 
> iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
>> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few 
>> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a 
>> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some 
>> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can 
>> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it 
>> as good as it can be.
>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the 
>> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a 
>> screenreader.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Todd Patkus
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>> windows
>>
>> Denise,
>>
>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, 
>> suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>> windows
>>
>> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of denise avant
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if 
>> it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc 
>> from my iPhone 6s plus  to my new windows computer I have the latest 
>> version of itunes  I am also wondering if I needed to change any of 
>> the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS  better? Thank you
>>
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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[rajmund]

Hello,
He's certainly older than me, knows Rich for 35 years, as we've 
been told about 10 times the last 7 days.  I didn't even exist 
back then myself.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: regina alvarado Mr.  Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all 
of his posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes 
to help him.  I do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, 
white, Asian, in a wheelchair, have a guide dog, an 
Indian-American or someone outside the country, U.S., there is no 
need to be nasty.  There is far, far too much of that going 
around.  It is time he try and make a point without attacking the 
very folks who are helping him.  I have a hearing deficit also 
and frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there 
were no computers much less voice or braille displays.  Talk 
about frustration.  I had to use an Optacon to read my whole 
screen on my first computer at work.  Couldn't even do that With 
just a typewriter.  I do not know his age, but it does come 
across as a spoiled child.  Jonathan is never nasty, and he has a 
worse hearing difficulty than me..  Would Helen Keller be nasty? 
Me thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs)
On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr.  Ed  
wrote:


Hi Reggie,
Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board.  So he cannot 
use the method you gave him.
Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions 
step by step but Todd stated they did not work for him.

Mr.  Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of regina alvarado

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS


Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it.  
Maybe you are using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are 
having so much trouble, but I am sorry it doesn't work for you.  
I had arrange apps, tapped on that, went to the activate choice, 
double tapped with one finger on that and I could delete 
completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on.  I am" 
using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest.



Reggie and Lex


On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  
wrote:


All:

Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the 
delete issue?


One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, 
but, when I tried doing so, it will not.  It says "Your Homekit 
will not be deleted".  This really sucks.  I have absolutely no 
need for it.


Yes, y'all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc.  
fails to realize.


Also, Health app does not show "activate" or "Arranging 
apps".  What kind of thing is that?


Use your common sense!

That is all I can say now.

Thanks,

Todd
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Re: Sent messages

[rajmund]

Hello,
Try deleting the account, and adding it again.  Just a thought.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: regina alvarado Hi all, in the native mail app on a 7 running latest IOS when I 
send from another app through email often the sent item will be 
stuck in sent.  Is this normal behavior? I have not been able to 
send them from sent when I find them stuck.  Any thoughts?



Reggie and Lex


On Nov 20, 2016, at 5:37 AM, Rajmund  
wrote:


Hello,
OK.  So the computer is POP, and the phone is IMAP.  Thanks for 
that, that's what I needed.  So, when you send something off 
phone, computer will not see it, as POP has no access to the sent 
items.  If, however, you send something off computer, phone 
should see it in it's sent folder.  If something doesn't quite 
work, let me know, and I'll have a look around for something, 
maybe.




Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone  I don't know, how do I find out.  Because I have it set on the 
computer as pop.


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2016, at 4:54 AM, Rajmund  
wrote:


Hello,
But POP or IMAP?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: 'simon w' via VIPhone  I use both POP and IMAP, and regardless of what I send from, for 
example
this braille sense, using POP, my IMAP devices will show the 
messages that

were sent off the u2, so since they upload it to the server.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  What email service do you use? You must be using IMAP, Exchange 
Active
Sync (that is Outlook.com) or full Exchange (typically used by 
businesses)

for your mail to sync across devices.
Even gmail and Outlook.com accounts can still be set up as POP 
accounts
and this service does not support Sent messages syncing across 
devices or
features where if you reply to a message say on your computer it 
will also
show as replied to on your iPhone with the reply associated to 
the message

etc.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:13 AM
To: CISG Hi, how come when I send a message through my computer it 
doesn't appear

in the sent messages on my iPhone?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi Todd and all! How are you all? Hey Tod, I use and   my boyfriend use a focus 
14 blue display. Since my boyfriend is deafblind, he is able to delete the apps 
with it. And he is able to do a lot with it. And he is profoundly deaf and he 
is blind as well. maybe you should consider in getting the focus 14 blue 
display since I find a better display to work with. I use an iPhone 7. What 
kind of phone do you have? Just wondering. I loook forward in hearing form 
you'd oon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber 
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
> 
> Sieghard,
>  
> The point here is that Apple Inc. cannot expect everyone or as many as 
> possible to use all their apps like this.  They need to change for the better.
>  
> Sieghard, I have absolutely no use for Health and Home , but do not say they 
> “cannot be” deleted.  It simply makes no sense.
>  
> Think twice.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Todd
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Delete & remove in iOS
>  
> Hi Mary,
>  
> Such bad words and on a Sunday… naughty, naughty *smile*.
> Health can indeed not be deleted and so far I found that apps like Phone, 
> Messages, Settings, Camera, Health, App Store, Photos/Videos and a few others 
> can’t be deleted as they are pretty crutial to iOS core functionality.
> Home, however, can be deleted, I just tested it since I didn’t have anything 
> in it right now and it goes away.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
>  
> My guess is that health and home  can't be deleted because they're not just 
> simple apps. If you can't deal with that by putting them on the last page of 
> your device into a folder that you may name trash or whatever, I suggest you 
> get an android and see if you like that any better. This is such a non-issue. 
> Just move the damn things where you don't have to look at them and forget 
> about it. Why is that hard?
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
> 
> All:
>  
> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
>  
> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I 
> tried doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be deleted”.  
> This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
>  
> Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to realize.
>  
> Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What kind of 
> thing is that?
>  
> Use your common sense!
>  
> That is all I can say now.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Todd
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Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the 
originals?



Carol P - UK



On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you 
to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
- Original Message - From: "denise avant" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
windows




Hello everyone,
Thanks for the input.  I thought there might be some workarounds for 
some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in 
windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what 
was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the 
need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time 
to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us 
simply connected our cables to our computers to download
I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my  contacts and 
other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using 
iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few 
scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a 
huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some 
pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can 
get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it 
as good as it can be.
The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the 
site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a 
screenreader.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Patkus

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
windows


Denise,

If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, 
suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.


Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
windows


I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of denise avant

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Hello everyone,
I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if 
it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc 
from my iPhone 6s plus  to my new windows computer I have the latest 
version of itunes  I am also wondering if I needed to change any of 
the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS  better? Thank you


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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Shaf Patel]

How very kind of you.

On 11/21/2016 5:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Shaf,
> 
> I may not agree with Todd's attitude, but you still should be careful when 
> you judge, you simply don't know somebody until you walked in their shoes.
> I definitely also don't appreciate people calling others jerk no matter what, 
> those who do that are no better and often worse than the person they are so 
> quick to label with such words.
> If I were moderator you would be off the list based on that statement.
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shaf Patel
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
> Jerks will be jerks. /ignore
> 
> On 11/21/2016 5:00 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
>>
>> Mr. Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of 
>> his posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help 
>> him. I do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in 
>> a wheelchair, have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside 
>> the country, U.S., there is no need to be nasty. There is far, far too 
>> much of that going around. It is time he try and make a point without 
>> attacking the very folks who are helping him. I have a hearing deficit 
>> also and frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there 
>> were no computers much less voice or braille displays. Talk about 
>> frustration. I had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my 
>> first computer at work. Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter. 
>> I do not know his age, but it does come across as a spoiled child. 
>> Jonathan is never nasty, and he has a worse hearing difficulty than 
>> me. Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs) On 
>> Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr. Ed > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Reggie,
>>
>> Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board. So he cannot use the 
>> method you gave him.
>>
>> Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step 
>> by step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
>>
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you 
>> are using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much 
>> trouble, but I am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps, 
>> tapped on that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one 
>> finger on that and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app 
>> or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Reggie and Lex
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus > > wrote:
>>
>> All:
>>
>>  
>>
>> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
>>
>>  
>>
>> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, 
>> when I tried doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be 
>> deleted”.  This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to 
>> realize.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What 
>> kind of thing is that?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Use your common sense!
>>
>>  
>>
>> That is all I can say now.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Todd
>>
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RE: Delete & remove in iOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Shaf,

I may not agree with Todd's attitude, but you still should be careful when you 
judge, you simply don't know somebody until you walked in their shoes.
I definitely also don't appreciate people calling others jerk no matter what, 
those who do that are no better and often worse than the person they are so 
quick to label with such words.
If I were moderator you would be off the list based on that statement.

Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

Jerks will be jerks. /ignore

On 11/21/2016 5:00 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
> 
> Mr. Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of 
> his posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help 
> him. I do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in 
> a wheelchair, have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside 
> the country, U.S., there is no need to be nasty. There is far, far too 
> much of that going around. It is time he try and make a point without 
> attacking the very folks who are helping him. I have a hearing deficit 
> also and frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there 
> were no computers much less voice or braille displays. Talk about 
> frustration. I had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my 
> first computer at work. Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter. 
> I do not know his age, but it does come across as a spoiled child. 
> Jonathan is never nasty, and he has a worse hearing difficulty than 
> me. Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs) On 
> Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr. Ed  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Reggie,
> 
> Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board. So he cannot use the 
> method you gave him.
> 
> Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step 
> by step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
> 
> Mr. Ed
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you 
> are using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much 
> trouble, but I am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps, 
> tapped on that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one 
> finger on that and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app 
> or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest.
> 
>  
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  > wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
>  
> 
> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
> 
>  
> 
> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, 
> when I tried doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be 
> deleted”.  This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to 
> realize.
> 
>  
> 
> Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What 
> kind of thing is that?
> 
>  
> 
> Use your common sense!
> 
>  
> 
> That is all I can say now.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Todd
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Re: Getting an image only PDF into KN FB reader

[ruby alphonse]

On 11/19/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Usually, if I get an email attachment that is a PDF, I get choices like
> where I want to open it, such as voice dream reader or whatever. But I just
> got one from my doctor. It is an image only, and I'm not getting any
> choices. I would like to open it in KN FB to see how it might OCR. But I
> don't seem to have anyway of getting the attachment from the Mail app to KN
> FB. Any help?
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Hi Mary, have you got an APP called Braigo? it tells you the image as
well as reads the text for you. you just try to save the PDF file into
drop box and with the help of Braigo get the file to read it for you,
Braigo tells you the image and reads everything very clearly. only
thing you have to have your internet on. Braigo is a free APP download
from APP Store. Regards, Ruby

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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Shaf Patel]

Jerks will be jerks. /ignore

On 11/21/2016 5:00 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
> 
> Mr. Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of his
> posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help him. I
> do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in a
> wheelchair, have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside the
> country, U.S., there is no need to be nasty. There is far, far too much
> of that going around. It is time he try and make a point without
> attacking the very folks who are helping him. I have a hearing deficit
> also and frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there
> were no computers much less voice or braille displays. Talk about
> frustration. I had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my first
> computer at work. Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter. I do not
> know his age, but it does come across as a spoiled child. Jonathan is
> never nasty, and he has a worse hearing difficulty than me. Would Helen
> Keller be nasty? Me thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs)
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr. Ed  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Reggie,
> 
> Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board. So he cannot use the
> method you gave him.
> 
> Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by
> step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
> 
> Mr. Ed
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you
> are using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much
> trouble, but I am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps,
> tapped on that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one
> finger on that and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app
> or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest. 
> 
>  
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  > wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
>  
> 
> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
> 
>  
> 
> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when
> I tried doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be
> deleted”.  This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to
> realize.
> 
>  
> 
> Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What
> kind of thing is that?
> 
>  
> 
> Use your common sense!
> 
>  
> 
> That is all I can say now.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Todd
> 
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Re: Sent messages

[regina alvarado]

 Hi all, in the native mail app on a 7 running latest IOS when I send from 
another app through email often the sent item will be stuck in sent. Is this 
normal behavior? I have not been able to send them from sent when I find them 
stuck. Any thoughts?


Reggie and Lex


On Nov 20, 2016, at 5:37 AM, Rajmund  wrote:

Hello,
OK. So the computer is POP, and the phone is IMAP. Thanks for that, that's what 
I needed. So, when you send something off phone, computer will not see it, as 
POP has no access to the sent items. If, however, you send something off 
computer, phone should see it in it's sent folder. If something doesn't quite 
work, let me know, and I'll have a look around for something, maybe.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:02 am
Subject: Re: Sent messages

> 
> 
> I don't know, how do I find out. Because I have it set on the computer as pop.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 4:54 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> But POP or IMAP?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 'simon w' via VIPhone  
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, November 20, 2016 3:26 am
>> Subject: Re: Sent messages
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm using yahoo with windows live mail.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: Rajmund
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Sent messages
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I use both POP and IMAP, and regardless of what I send from, for example 
>>> this braille sense, using POP, my IMAP devices will show the messages that 
>>> were sent off the u2, so since they upload it to the server.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>>> Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:35 pm
>>> Subject: RE: Sent messages
>>> 
 
 
 Hi Simon,
 
 What email service do you use? You must be using IMAP, Exchange Active 
 Sync (that is Outlook.com) or full Exchange (typically used by businesses) 
 for your mail to sync across devices.
 Even gmail and Outlook.com accounts can still be set up as POP accounts 
 and this service does not support Sent messages syncing across devices or 
 features where if you reply to a message say on your computer it will also 
 show as replied to on your iPhone with the reply associated to the message 
 etc.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:13 AM
 To: CISG 
 Subject: Sent messages
 
 Hi, how come when I send a message through my computer it doesn't appear 
 in the sent messages on my iPhone?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[regina alvarado]

Mr. Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of his posts 
it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help him. I do not care 
if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in a wheelchair, have a guide 
dog, an Indian-American or someone outside the country, U.S., there is no need 
to be nasty. There is far, far too much of that going around. It is time he try 
and make a point without attacking the very folks who are helping him. I have a 
hearing deficit also and frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived 
when there were no computers much less voice or braille displays. Talk about 
frustration. I had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my first 
computer at work. Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter. I do not know 
his age, but it does come across as a spoiled child. Jonathan is never nasty, 
and he has a worse hearing difficulty than me. Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me 
thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs)
On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

Hi Reggie,
Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board. So he cannot use the method 
you gave him.
Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by step 
but Todd stated they did not work for him.
Mr. Ed
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
 
 
Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you are 
using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much trouble, but I 
am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps, tapped on that, went to 
the activate choice, double tapped with one finger on that and I could delete 
completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or 
the latest. 

 
Reggie and Lex
 

On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

All:
 
Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
 
One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I tried 
doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be deleted”.  This 
really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
 
Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to realize.
 
Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What kind of 
thing is that?
 
Use your common sense!
 
That is all I can say now.
 
Thanks,
 
Todd
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Re: question Safari on mac

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Gianni,

You'll probably get more detailed help on the Mac Visionaries list, but here 
are a few ideas.

Go to the History menu, and choose the Clear History option.

Open Preferences with Command-Comma, choose Extensions, and make sure the only 
extensions are ones you know about and want.

Also in Preferences, choose Security, and choose which content you want.

I hope this is of some help, and encourage you to check AppleVis and the 
MacVisionaries mailing list for more detail if needed.

Best,
Anna

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:04 AM, Gianni  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Does anyone know how I cn clean up my Safari on my Mac? Safari is sometimes 
> slow and often voiceoover says: busy. I use cleanmymac, but that doesn't seem 
> to help. I have a lot of pop ups and adds that show up just like mackeeper 
> and a fake adobe flash player. What can I do about it?
> 
> 
> Gianni
> 
> Skype: giannijuve
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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[regina alvarado]

Mary and Christopher, excellent posts. There was a time when none of the Apple 
phone apps could be deleted at all. So, this is an improvement in IOS. I put 
all unwanted apps on the last page and went about my way. I also went to a more 
GB. I think this difficulty can be dealt with easily. 

Reggie and Lex


On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:36 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

It's not true that Android isn't accessible at all. You may think Apple is more 
accessible, but that's not the same thing as Android not being accessible at 
all.

I've always found the Apple apps I can't remove from my iPhone to be an 
annoyance and not a huge deal. If this is our biggest concern with Apple then 
they must be doing a great job with accessibility!

> On 20/11/16 18:32, Todd Patkus wrote:
> Mary,
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, they seem to be so, but Apple Inc. needs to do something about
> this.  Not all want these or any of the “undeletable” apps.  I did tell
> the staff at Apple Accessibility on this one.  They fail to realize this.
> 
> 
> 
> Android is not accessible at all.  iPhone is the most accessible device
> so far.  I do not bother Android at all.
> 
> 
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mary Otten
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:28 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
> 
> 
> My guess is that health and home  can't be deleted because they're not
> just simple apps. If you can't deal with that by putting them on the
> last page of your device into a folder that you may name trash or
> whatever, I suggest you get an android and see if you like that any
> better. This is such a non-issue. Just move the damn things where you
> don't have to look at them and forget about it. Why is that hard?
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Todd Patkus  > wrote:
> 
>All:
> 
> 
> 
>Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the
>delete issue?
> 
> 
> 
>One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but,
>when I tried doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not
>be deleted”.  This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
> 
> 
> 
>Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails
>to realize.
> 
> 
> 
>Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What
>kind of thing is that?
> 
> 
> 
>Use your common sense!
> 
> 
> 
>That is all I can say now.
> 
> 
> 
>Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>Todd
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RE: Delete & remove in iOS

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Reggie,

Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board. So he cannot use the method 
you gave him.

Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step by step 
but Todd stated they did not work for him. 

Mr. Ed 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

 

 

Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you are 
using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much trouble, but I 
am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps, tapped on that, went to 
the activate choice, double tapped with one finger on that and I could delete 
completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or 
the latest. 

 

Reggie and Lex

 


On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

All:

 

Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?

 

One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I tried 
doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be deleted”.  This 
really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.

 

Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to realize.

 

Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What kind of 
thing is that?

 

Use your common sense!

 

That is all I can say now.

 

Thanks,

 

Todd

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Re: InstaCart App

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Hi there, I actually just used it today and I do use it frequently. And I like 
it. There is one thing that is not as accessible as I would like and that is 
rating, but it is very easy to figure out, all you do is slide your finger up 
and it gives a higher rating and you can tell that. I like the service, the 
people are very friendly. It can be pricey but I am OK with that only because I 
don't have anybody to help me go shopping.
Hope that helps.

Lelia 

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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[regina alvarado]

Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you are 
using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much trouble, but I 
am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps, tapped on that, went to 
the activate choice, double tapped with one finger on that and I could delete 
completely just as any other IOS app or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or 
the latest. 


Reggie and Lex


On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

All:
 
Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
 
One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I tried 
doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be deleted”.  This 
really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
 
Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to realize.
 
Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What kind of 
thing is that?
 
Use your common sense!
 
That is all I can say now.
 
Thanks,
 
Todd
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InstaCart App

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Hello All,

Is anyone using the InstaCart app for grocery delivery?  If so, how is the 
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RE: Delete & remove in iOS

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Todd,

Why can’t you just move these app you don’t want into a folder and put them on 
the last page of apps. That is so simple to do and stop whining  like a spoiled 
brat that does not get his way. You need to grow up and just move the apps.

I know you are going to respond that you are not a spoiled little brat. So 
let’s hear you  whine again. 

One other reminder. I knew of another person on this list that kept whining 
about IOS all the time and he is no longer on this list. So grow up a little 
and get off your high horse and except the facts about IOS as they are. Not 
being perfect the way you want them. I am visually impaired and severely hard 
of hearing and I want to be an airline pilot or a brain surgeon. Do you want to 
be my first passenger or patient?  So realize everything in life is not going 
to be perfect for you. 

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delete & remove in iOS

 

Sieghard,

 

The point here is that Apple Inc. cannot expect everyone or as many as possible 
to use all their apps like this.  They need to change for the better.

 

Sieghard, I have absolutely no use for Health and Home , but do not say they 
“cannot be” deleted.  It simply makes no sense.

 

Think twice.

 

Thanks.

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delete & remove in iOS

 

Hi Mary,

 

Such bad words and on a Sunday… naughty, naughty *smile*.

Health can indeed not be deleted and so far I found that apps like Phone, 
Messages, Settings, Camera, Health, App Store, Photos/Videos and a few others 
can’t be deleted as they are pretty crutial to iOS core functionality.

Home, however, can be deleted, I just tested it since I didn’t have anything in 
it right now and it goes away.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

 

My guess is that health and home  can't be deleted because they're not just 
simple apps. If you can't deal with that by putting them on the last page of 
your device into a folder that you may name trash or whatever, I suggest you 
get an android and see if you like that any better. This is such a non-issue. 
Just move the damn things where you don't have to look at them and forget about 
it. Why is that hard?
Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 20, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

All:

 

Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?

 

One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, when I tried 
doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be deleted”.  This 
really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.

 

Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to realize.

 

Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What kind of 
thing is that?

 

Use your common sense!

 

That is all I can say now.

 

Thanks,

 

Todd

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How to help out your Smart Phone Battery

[Dominique Farrell]

Website:

 

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RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It would be interesting to know if the BlindTunes scripts make selecting apps 
and tones for syncing possible. I use Leasey Advanced and there are a few 
things in Leasey which help a bit with iTunes, but nothing that goes that deep.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tony Hernandez
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

I'm a bit of a Johnny-come-lately on this thread, but has anyone mentioned the 
BlindTunes scripts? I haven't used iTunes in ages, but I used these scripts 
with a fair degree of success when I did use the program. I've since changed 
computers and simply haven't gotten around to putting iTunes on it, no need.


On 11/21/2016 7:10 AM, Hope Paulos wrote:
> Good morning everyone… In order for peoples voices to be heard 
> regarding accessibility of iTunes, it is my opinion, that both 
> companies need to be contacted. You can even send the same email to both if 
> you'd like… The address to contact VFO Formally freedom scientific, is: 
> suggesti...@vfo-group.com The address to contact Apple is:
> accessibil...@apple.com
> The person that mentioned that Apple needs to make the changes first, is 
> correct.
> Take care, and have a great day!
>
> Hope Paulos
>
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Smiles, Todd, have a great day!
>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
>>>
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> You are mistaken.  I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said.  
>>> That is it.  Please watch out your language.  You used a bad word here.  
>>> Rip it off.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Larry Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM
>>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
>>> windows
>>>
>>> Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as 
>>> though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will 
>>> respond. But It’s ok.
 On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

 Sieghard,

 I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS".  Do not get on top of 
 me!  Watch out what you are going to say.  All I did was suggest her 
 contact them.  That is it!

 Todd

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
 windows

 Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA 
 isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out 
 there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I 
 have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so 
 that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in 
 turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be.
 The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
 implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is 
 more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader.

 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Todd Patkus
 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
 windows

 Denise,

 If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you 
 contact Freedom Scientific on this one.

 Todd

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
 windows

 I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of denise avant
 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for 
 windows

 Hello everyone,
 I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if 
 it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc 
 from my iPhone 6s plus  to my new windows computer I have the 
 latest version of itunes  I am also wondering if

Re: apple music

[Christopher Chaltain]

It's a music streaming service from Apple. there's tons of information 
on it on the web. This seems like a good article: 
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/136725-apple-music-explained-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work


On 21/11/16 03:14, Fanus wrote:

Hello Sieghard
You mentioned apple music in your email on the list. Can you please
explain what it is and how it works and what it costs.
Regards
Fanus


*From:* Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:07 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows


Hi Victor,



Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or
tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to
select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select
apps to sync.

None of this works any more.

Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column
browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does
not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album).
OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to
sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that
along with whatever it read.

In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have
Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone
any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can
manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily
enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and
this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder
and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync
all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library
in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I
want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library
again and then rsync.



If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of
iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really
should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done.



Take care,

Sieghard



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia
*Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows



I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest
iTunes, and I have no problems with it.



What exactly are you having problems with.



Victor



*From:*Richard Turner

*Sent:*Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:*Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows



Todd,

I too will no longer try to help you.

You are too rude for words.

Richard





“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

- Satsuki Shibuya





(Sent from my iPod 6)


On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Todd,

Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not
getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is
relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility
of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are
not to blame alone.

And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer
reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any
questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your
agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing
the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind,
but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says
which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it".

Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows

Sieghard,

I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS".  Do not get on
top of me!  Watch out what you are going to say.  All I did was
suggest her contact them.  That is it!

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows

Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem,
NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few
scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a
huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some
pretty

Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Christopher Chaltain]

Fair enough Jonathan, and I did think about that since I knew Todd was 
deaf blind. If he'd said Android wasn't an option for him because of 
it's inadequate braille support then I never would have said anything. 
Since he made a blanket statement though, I guess I jumped in when maybe 
the smarter thing would have been to let it go.


I think of myself as sympathetic to the deaf blind, but I admit, I don't 
often think of the challenges faced by the deaf blind. I'm also not sure 
that I agree with Todd that his deaf blindness explains away his 
rudeness on this list.


On 21/11/16 05:03, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hi Christopher, Todd is Deaf Blind, so for him, Android is not at all
viable. It's Braille support as publicly available is well below par.
I have learned the hard way that there is little sympathy on this list,
or in the blind community as a whole it seems, for the needs of the Deaf
Blind which is why I have mostly stopped posting here. But I did want to
chime in and at least make this point.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


On 21/11/2016, at 2:14 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Have you personally tried both platforms? I don't have a problem with
someone having an opinion and thinking IOS is more accessible than
Android, but I think it's a disservice to blind people everywhere to
state something as a fact that's only an opinion. this is especially
true when it isn't based on personal experience but rather just hear
say. There are definitely areas where IOS is more accessible than
Android, but for how I use my phone, I find Android is just as
accessible as Apple. IMHO, the question of whether one is more
accessible than the other is more complicated than just stating it's a
fact. It goes to how each person uses their phone and what each person
finds to be important to them. This is why I like reviews from people
who have used both platforms and I discourage people from listening to
one line statements.

Besides, you've said both that Android isn't accessible at all and
that it isn't as as accessible as IOS. These two statements aren't the
same, so which are you saying is a simple fact?

On 20/11/16 19:05, Todd Patkus wrote:

Chris,

No.  It is a simple fact.  I am sure Rich will tell you about it.

You are missing something this time.

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

It's an opinion, and it may be your opinion, but it's not a truth. I
find Android as accessible as Apple, and even though I still use an
iPhone at the office, I've switched to using an Android phone for my
own personal use.

Also, in your first message, you said that Android wasn't accessible
at all, which isn't nearly the same thing as saying Android isn't as
accessible as Apple, which is what you said in your second message.

On 20/11/16 18:40, Todd Patkus wrote:

Chris,

Whatever you say.  I am aware of Android not being as accessible.
 This is true.

That is all I can tell you.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS

It's not true that Android isn't accessible at all. You may think
Apple is more accessible, but that's not the same thing as Android
not being accessible at all.

I've always found the Apple apps I can't remove from my iPhone to be
an annoyance and not a huge deal. If this is our biggest concern
with Apple then they must be doing a great job with accessibility!

On 20/11/16 18:32, Todd Patkus wrote:

Mary,



Yes, they seem to be so, but Apple Inc. needs to do something about
this.  Not all want these or any of the “undeletable” apps.  I did
tell the staff at Apple Accessibility on this one.  They fail to
realize this.



Android is not accessible at all.  iPhone is the most accessible
device so far.  I do not bother Android at all.



Todd



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
*Sent:* Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:28 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS



My guess is that health and home  can't be deleted because they're
not just simple apps. If you can't deal with that by putting them on
the last page of your device into a folder that you may name trash or
whatever, I suggest you get an android and see if you like that any
better. This is such a non-issue. Just move the damn things where you
don't have to look at them and forget about it.

Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Tony Hernandez]

I'm a bit of a Johnny-come-lately on this thread, but has anyone 
mentioned the BlindTunes scripts? I haven't used iTunes in ages, but I 
used these scripts with a fair degree of success when I did use the 
program. I've since changed computers and simply haven't gotten around 
to putting iTunes on it, no need.



On 11/21/2016 7:10 AM, Hope Paulos wrote:

Good morning everyone… In order for peoples voices to be heard regarding 
accessibility of iTunes, it is my opinion, that both companies need to be 
contacted. You can even send the same email to both if you'd like…
The address to contact VFO Formally freedom scientific, is: 
suggesti...@vfo-group.com
The address to contact Apple is:
accessibil...@apple.com
The person that mentioned that Apple needs to make the changes first, is 
correct.
Take care, and have a great day!

Hope Paulos


On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:

Smiles, Todd, have a great day!

On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

Larry,

You are mistaken.  I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said.  
That is it.  Please watch out your language.  You used a bad word here.  Rip it 
off.

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Smith
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as though 
you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will respond. But 
It’s ok.

On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:

Sieghard,

I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS".  Do not get on top of me!  
Watch out what you are going to say.  All I did was suggest her contact them.  That is it!

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't 
doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there 
which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a 
feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that 
companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do 
whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be.
The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more 
or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Denise,

If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you 
contact Freedom Scientific on this one.

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
denise avant
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Hello everyone,
I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is 
possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s 
plus  to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes  I am also 
wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it 
with JAWS  better? Thank you

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Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Hope Paulos]

Good morning everyone… In order for peoples voices to be heard regarding 
accessibility of iTunes, it is my opinion, that both companies need to be 
contacted. You can even send the same email to both if you'd like…
The address to contact VFO Formally freedom scientific, is: 
suggesti...@vfo-group.com
The address to contact Apple is:
accessibil...@apple.com
The person that mentioned that Apple needs to make the changes first, is 
correct. 
Take care, and have a great day! 

Hope Paulos

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
> 
> Smiles, Todd, have a great day!
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
>> 
>> Larry,
>> 
>> You are mistaken.  I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said.  
>> That is it.  Please watch out your language.  You used a bad word here.  Rip 
>> it off.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Smith
>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>> 
>> Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as 
>> though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will 
>> respond. But It’s ok. 
>>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sieghard,
>>> 
>>> I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS".  Do not get on top of 
>>> me!  Watch out what you are going to say.  All I did was suggest her 
>>> contact them.  That is it!
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't 
>>> doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there 
>>> which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a 
>>> feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that 
>>> companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do 
>>> whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be.
>>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
>>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is 
>>> more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Todd Patkus
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>>> 
>>> Denise,
>>> 
>>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you 
>>> contact Freedom Scientific on this one.
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>>> 
>>> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of denise avant
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is 
>>> possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my 
>>> iPhone 6s plus  to my new windows computer I have the latest version of 
>>> itunes  I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in 
>>> iTunes to navigate it with JAWS  better? Thank you
>>> 
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Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

[Larry Smith]

Smiles, Todd, have a great day!
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
> 
> Larry,
> 
> You are mistaken.  I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said.  
> That is it.  Please watch out your language.  You used a bad word here.  Rip 
> it off.
> 
> Todd
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Smith
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM
> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
> 
> Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as 
> though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will 
> respond. But It’s ok. 
>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus  wrote:
>> 
>> Sieghard,
>> 
>> I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS".  Do not get on top of me! 
>>  Watch out what you are going to say.  All I did was suggest her contact 
>> them.  That is it!
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>> 
>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't 
>> doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there 
>> which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a 
>> feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that 
>> companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do 
>> whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be.
>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is 
>> more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Todd Patkus
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>> 
>> Denise,
>> 
>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you 
>> contact Freedom Scientific on this one.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>> 
>> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of denise avant
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is 
>> possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 
>> 6s plus  to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes  I 
>> am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to 
>> navigate it with JAWS  better? Thank you
>> 
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Re: Delete & remove in iOS

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Christopher, Todd is Deaf Blind, so for him, Android is not at all viable. 
It's Braille support as publicly available is well below par.
I have learned the hard way that there is little sympathy on this list, or in 
the blind community as a whole it seems, for the needs of the Deaf Blind which 
is why I have mostly stopped posting here. But I did want to chime in and at 
least make this point.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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> On 21/11/2016, at 2:14 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Have you personally tried both platforms? I don't have a problem with someone 
> having an opinion and thinking IOS is more accessible than Android, but I 
> think it's a disservice to blind people everywhere to state something as a 
> fact that's only an opinion. this is especially true when it isn't based on 
> personal experience but rather just hear say. There are definitely areas 
> where IOS is more accessible than Android, but for how I use my phone, I find 
> Android is just as accessible as Apple. IMHO, the question of whether one is 
> more accessible than the other is more complicated than just stating it's a 
> fact. It goes to how each person uses their phone and what each person finds 
> to be important to them. This is why I like reviews from people who have used 
> both platforms and I discourage people from listening to one line statements.
> 
> Besides, you've said both that Android isn't accessible at all and that it 
> isn't as as accessible as IOS. These two statements aren't the same, so which 
> are you saying is a simple fact?
> 
> On 20/11/16 19:05, Todd Patkus wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> No.  It is a simple fact.  I am sure Rich will tell you about it.
>> 
>> You are missing something this time.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
>> 
>> It's an opinion, and it may be your opinion, but it's not a truth. I find 
>> Android as accessible as Apple, and even though I still use an iPhone at the 
>> office, I've switched to using an Android phone for my own personal use.
>> 
>> Also, in your first message, you said that Android wasn't accessible at all, 
>> which isn't nearly the same thing as saying Android isn't as accessible as 
>> Apple, which is what you said in your second message.
>> 
>> On 20/11/16 18:40, Todd Patkus wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> Whatever you say.  I am aware of Android not being as accessible.  This is 
>>> true.
>>> 
>>> That is all I can tell you.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
>>> 
>>> It's not true that Android isn't accessible at all. You may think Apple is 
>>> more accessible, but that's not the same thing as Android not being 
>>> accessible at all.
>>> 
>>> I've always found the Apple apps I can't remove from my iPhone to be an 
>>> annoyance and not a huge deal. If this is our biggest concern with Apple 
>>> then they must be doing a great job with accessibility!
>>> 
>>> On 20/11/16 18:32, Todd Patkus wrote:
 Mary,
 
 
 
 Yes, they seem to be so, but Apple Inc. needs to do something about
 this.  Not all want these or any of the “undeletable” apps.  I did
 tell the staff at Apple Accessibility on this one.  They fail to realize 
 this.
 
 
 
 Android is not accessible at all.  iPhone is the most accessible
 device so far.  I do not bother Android at all.
 
 
 
 Todd
 
 
 
 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:28 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
 
 
 
 My guess is that health and home  can't be deleted because they're
 not just simple apps. If you can't deal with that by putting them on
 the last page of your device into a folder that you may name trash or
 whatever, I suggest you get an android and see if you like that any
 better. This is such a non-issue. Just move the damn things where you
 don't have to look at them and forget about it. Why is that hard?
 Mary
 
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 On Nov 20, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Todd Patkus >>> > wrote:
 
All:
 
 
 
Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the
delete issue?
 
 
 
One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but,
when I tried doing so, it will not.  It says 

Re: Move to status bar gesture?

[Michael Feir]

I just touch at the very top of the screen. Any item along the status bar
will do.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 5:12 AM Harry Bell  wrote:

> I seem to have missed something basic: what is the gesture to move focus
> on iPhone to the status bar using VoiceOver? Stabbing with my finger is
> pretty hit and miss! Thanks. Harry on iPhone 7 plus latest ios
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Move to status bar gesture?

[Harry Bell]

I seem to have missed something basic: what is the gesture to move focus on 
iPhone to the status bar using VoiceOver? Stabbing with my finger is pretty hit 
and miss! Thanks. Harry on iPhone 7 plus latest ios 

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apple music

[Fanus]

Hello Sieghard
You mentioned apple music in your email on the list. Can you please explain 
what it is and how it works and what it costs.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

Hi Victor,

 

Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, 
check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists 
or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync.

None of this works any more.

Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser 
so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read 
anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say 
on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it 
would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read.

In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple 
Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps 
I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones 
manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around 
is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my 
iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add 
to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I 
just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and 
then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the 
library again and then rsync.

 

If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes 
you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast 
and show all of us how it can be done.

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Victor Gouveia
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

 

I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and 
I have no problems with it.

 

What exactly are you having problems with.

 

Victor

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

 

Todd,

I too will no longer try to help you.

You are too rude for words.

Richard

 

 

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

- Satsuki Shibuya

 

 

(Sent from my iPod 6)


On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  Hi Todd,

  Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on 
top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the 
topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a 
Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone.

  And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to 
anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. 
Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational 
tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional 
challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at 
anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying 
"that is it". 

  Take care,
  Sieghard

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

  Sieghard,

  I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS".  Do not get on top of me!  
Watch out what you are going to say.  All I did was suggest her contact them.  
That is it!

  Todd

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

  Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't 
doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there 
which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a 
feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that 
companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do 
whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be.
  The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more 
or less unuseable for somebody w

Re: New member

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

welcome dominique!
if you are running version 9X on your for S, you shouldn't find it too much of 
a learning curve when you get your 6S. I only have a six, so I don't have 3D 
Touch, but I think that might be the main thing you will have to get to grips 
with. of course, you can disable it, but it looks like a useful tool. however, 
the 6S is larger than the for S, so it won't fit in your pocket quite as 
comfortable E. personally speaking, I would love it if they would produce an 
iPhone eight, with all its potential bells and whistles, which is the same size 
as the for S, as that phone, for me, is the perfect size. 

anyway, welcome to the list and I look forward to your contributions.
Good luck, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 20 Nov 2016, at 16:27, Dominique Farrell  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I’m a new member from Dublin, Ireland and am an iPhone user for it will be 
> two years this Christmas that I got my 4S, and am in the process of saving 
> for a 6S, and am just wondering will I have much to learn then?
>  
> I never used an I Device before then and all my phones were keypad, so it 
> took a lot of getting used to, but I persevered and was determined to succeed 
> and accomplish what I wanted to achieve!
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Dominique & my amber Lab/Retriever Irish Guide Dog Opal.
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question Safari on mac

[Gianni]

Hello,
Does anyone know how I cn clean up my Safari on my Mac? Safari is sometimes 
slow and often voiceoover says: busy. I use cleanmymac, but that doesn't seem 
to help. I have a lot of pop ups and adds that show up just like mackeeper and 
a fake adobe flash player. What can I do about it?


Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
Sent from my iPhone

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