emoticons on iPhone

[Gianni]

Hi,
I have a strange question. I'm looking for specific emoticons on the iPhone 
keyboard. I'm looking for Australian animals, like wombats for example. Does 
anyone know how to get them?


Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
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Re: apple tv, and emails

[Ryan Mann]

Maybe Apple wants people to purchase a Mac or iPhone/iPad for email and web 
browsing.


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> On Dec 2, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Pablo C. Morales  wrote:
> 
> I would like to know why apple is doing it?
> Most smart TVs allow users to browse on internet, and some smart Tv allow 
> users to read emails. It doesn’t make any sense.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: apple tv, and emails
>  
> No, Apple has not brought Safari to the Apple TV 4th Generation and so far 
> has apparently not allowed third party developers such as Google or Firefox 
> to make browsers for the Apple TV.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo C. Morales
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: apple tv, and emails
>  
> Hi Guys,
> With the apple tv 4th generation, or what ever is the name of the last apple 
> tv. Are we able to navigate on internet?
> Thank you,
>  
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Re: changeing the password on my apple ID

[Rajmund]

Hello,
If you can't remember your security questions, and can't access the email, 
which is the apple ID, the only possible way I could think of is through the 
phone. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Michael Amaro  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 3, 2016 2:46 am
Subject: changeing the password on my apple ID

>
>
> Hello Listers,
>  
> How do I go about changing the password on my apple ID if I don't remember my 
> answers to my security questions?  Rescue email won't work as I don't 
> remember the password for it.
>  
> thanks
>  
> Michael
>  
> email/skype:
>  
> mikeam...@earthlink.net
>  
> iPhone email:
>  
> mikeam...@icloud.com
>  
> JFK"
>  
> What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
> Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of 
> the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace - - 
> the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living -- the kind that 
> enables man and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for 
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changeing the password on my apple ID

[Michael Amaro]

Hello Listers,

How do I go about changing the password on my apple ID if I don't remember my 
answers to my security questions?  Rescue email won't work as I don't remember 
the password for it.

thanks

Michael

email/skype:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone email:

mikeam...@icloud.com

JFK"

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of 
the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace - - 
the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living -- the kind that 
enables man and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for 
their children - - not merely peace for Americans by peace for all men and 
women - - not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."

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notification center problem

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello all,
Need a little help.
On my iPhone 6, I went to the notification center, once I got down to the 
bottom of my notifications, I knew that there was more, so I did a three finger 
swipe up and it told me page 8 of 10.  But when I did a swipe down to read more 
notifications, all of my notifications had disappeared.
I have the search and dictate button at the top, and then I have where it tells 
you what page you are on.  No matter what I do, I can not get my notifications 
back!!  If I hit the home button to go to my home page, then go back to my 
notification center, the page is still totally blank.
Any help with this would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris

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RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

I agree. I have sent to Rumba customer support response on to the Neato Support 
Team, asking they forward the message to Tier 3. This just might get their 
attention. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Certainly a much more encouraging message than the one I received from Neato 
Robotics even though the Neato is less expensive and gets better reviews.

Regards,
Sieghard

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pholdstock
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the reply 
I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very positive 
:-).

 Dear Mr. Holdstock,

Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.

We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.

The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple mobile 
devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make it easier 
to use for the visually impaired people.

I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
technology.

I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and will 
help to improve the robot's features even further.

Kind regards,

Sibin
iRobot Customer Care


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On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie 
> wrote:
I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an MP3 
player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and my 
friends love it. LOL!

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi,

Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery 
status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only 
the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. This 
means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit to 
accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, ironically, 
that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not write in the 
edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not a Neato one. I 
suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is something that we 
need to keep reminding the various developers about. However, and I imagine 
that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, 
without the app and it will do its job, you just have less control over modes 
etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, 
including seeing the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, 
since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more 
than anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps 
when we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me 
and I don't really like the Cloud

In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is the 
easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to maintain, 
empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, 
almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running 
jump when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into my 
porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful to see it 
lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!

I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be aware 
of VO when putting out app updates.

Happy hoovering! Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 

Re: Identifi

[michv]

hi for those interested in how this app works hear's a youtube vidio from 
the guy who made the app explaining how it works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpAZHyZIzyg
from Mich.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifi

It may have been developed by a young man (to me 17 or 18 is not a kids any 
more) but I'm sure he doesn't control the actual descriptions. I don't know 
how the app does what it does, but it is obviously comparing the pictures to 
some sort of database and then it makes intelligent choices as to what it 
"sees".




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

Keep in mind that it was developed by a kid, to whom anyone over the age of
30 is probably "old".
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sherrie

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

I was really happy that it actually read out the name from a round
supplement bottle in pretty low light.  Much better than KNFB.  And it did a
good job on pictures, too.  But it was brutally honest! The description for
a picture of me, my husband, my sister and her husband was "old people
couples picture".  I laughed until I cried!
Guess the gray hair gave it away!
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Ann Byrne

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

How far from the object does the phone have to be in order to read text??
At 01:35 PM 12/1/2016, you wrote:

qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I
haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the
Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very
low lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy
about is that taking a picture of text was quick and with excellent
results.  I hope that those of you that are not getting good results, do so
eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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Re: Identifi and pictures

[Jewel]

Was it just the grey hair that made iDentifi think that the photo was of a 
group of * old people?
It would be interesting to take a  group of * young people and have them don 
grey wigs!  Would the 
description be:  group of * young people pretending to be * old people?  or was 
there something 
else, apart from the grizzled hair giving them away, like them all holding up 
birthday cards 
sayingWOW!  100 years?  who would have thunk it?
If "Orange Is The New Black" maybe "100 Can Be The New Old"!

 Jewel

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From: "Richard Turner" 
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2016 1:23 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Identifi and pictures

I don't think the person who originally posted this was saying it was a 
negative, in fact, she said 
she laughed outloud until she cried.

I think others are making more out of this than was intended.

It is very humorous and should be taken that way.

Honesty is, after all, the best policy.

I was sent an image that KNFB Reader could not get any words from, but iDentifi 
got all but two 
words.
The image was a sign at a store that said:
"No senior discounts.  You've had twice as long to get the money."

Later,
Richard

 

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iAssociate

[Jewel]

If you have read my recent messages to iPhone, you will be aware that my latest 
game is iAssociate, 
and one learns some very interesting, though, probably useless facts from it;  
however, I did 
mention that, although it seemed that I was wasting hours upon hours when I 
could be putting them to 
more productive purposes, that one of those, seemingly, useless facts that I 
was squirreling away, 
could, one day, be worth a million dollars, but I digress!  one of the 
questions I saw last night 
was:  7 letters:  associated with plant:Lactuca Sativa.  The first 4 
letters:  L a c t" made me 
think that it might have something to do with milk:  milk thistle perhaps, but 
it was only 1 word.
I looked it up this morning and it is LETTUCE, which, and this may surprise 
you, is a member of the 
daisy family!
What similarity is there between a daisy and a lettuce? is the burning question 
of the day!

Jewel
 

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RE: Apple watch's Bluetooth capabilities

[Pablo C. Morales]

Yes, I agree that a virtual keyboard in that little screen makes no sense. 
However if the apple watch has wifi capability, my iPhone needs to be connected 
to the wifi first, and this settings are used for the apple watch. Now I have a 
couple of questions based in this situation.

The apple watch keep permanently the wifi configurations stored in the apple 
watch?

Or it needs always the iPhone around to be able to connect to a wifi. Once the 
iPhone is connected to the wifi, the settings of this wifi are transferred to 
the apple watch, or these settings needs to be transfer every time?

Thanks

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple watch's bluetooth capabilities

 

No, I don't think so, the watch connects to the same network your phone is on 
so there is no actual WiFi settings on the watch itself.

Also, note that there is no on-screen keyboard, you can reply to text messages 
(or send them) using SIRI and SIRI alone.

There also is no phone keypad which in my opinion is stupid and unexplainable 
to me since there is a keypad on the screen to enter your security code for 
when the watch is not on your arm. When it's on your arm you can unlock it the 
first time simply by unlocking your iPhone with touch Id, consequently you 
don't have to unlock the watch as long as it stays on your arm. What I don't 
get is why there is no phone DialPad if it clearly is possible to have a 
functional keypad on the screen. Granted you don't often need it, but what if 
you want to make a call with the watch where you have to navigate even a simple 
menu like "Press 1 for Customer Servive" or "Press 2 for Technical Support".

 

Regards,

Sieghard

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo C. Morales
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Apple watch's bluetooth capabilities

 

Hi all,

Just a question about the apple watch. This device has Bluetooth 4. Can I 
connect a Bluetooth keyboard to a apple watch?

In case that it is no possible,  how can I connect this apple watch to a  
wwireless network?

Thank you,

 

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Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

[pdllogan77 - GMail]

Yes ... the app is very accessible ... and works well ... 


From: pholdstock 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the reply 
I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very positive 
:-).

 Dear Mr. Holdstock,

Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.

We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.

The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple mobile 
devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make it easier 
to use for the visually impaired people.

I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
technology.

I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and will 
help to improve the robot's features even further.

Kind regards,

Sibin
iRobot Customer Care 


Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie  wrote:


  I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an 
MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and my 
friends love it. LOL!

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

  Hi,

  Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery 
status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only 
the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. This 
means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit to 
accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, ironically, 
that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not write in the 
edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not a Neato one. I 
suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is something that we 
need to keep reminding the various developers about. However, and I imagine 
that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, 
without the app and it will do its job, you just have less control over modes 
etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, 
including seeing the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, 
since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more 
than anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps 
when we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me 
and I don't really like the Cloud

  In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is the 
easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to maintain, 
empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, 
almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running 
jump when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into my 
porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful to see it 
lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!

  I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be aware 
of VO when putting out app updates.

  Happy hoovering! Sandy. 

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.

 

The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but 
I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could with 
better accessibility.

 

I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to make 
their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I received a response 
direct message from them several hours later thanking me for bringing this to 
their attention, and that they had forwarded 

RE: Identifi and pictures

[Richard Turner]

I don't think the person who originally posted this was saying it was a 
negative, in fact, she said she laughed outloud until she cried.  

I think others are making more out of this than was intended.

It is very humorous and should be taken that way.

Honesty is, after all, the best policy.

I was sent an image that KNFB Reader could not get any words from, but iDentifi 
got all but two words.
The image was a sign at a store that said:
"No senior discounts.  You've had twice as long to get the money."

Later,
Richard
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo C. Morales
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 4:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifi

The perception that being old, or over weight, or short, or blind as something 
bad, is just opinions. The app is going to see that there is people with gray 
hair, and it is a true like we are blind. Now if we perceive that being old or 
being blind is something bad, it is our problem. I don't see as a problem that 
the app detail these kind of things.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifi

It may have been developed by a young man (to me 17 or 18 is not a kids any 
more) but I'm sure he doesn't control the actual descriptions. I don't know how 
the app does what it does, but it is obviously comparing the pictures to some 
sort of database and then it makes intelligent choices as to what it "sees".



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

Keep in mind that it was developed by a kid, to whom anyone over the age of 
30 is probably "old".
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sherrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

I was really happy that it actually read out the name from a round
supplement bottle in pretty low light.  Much better than KNFB.  And it did a
good job on pictures, too.  But it was brutally honest! The description for
a picture of me, my husband, my sister and her husband was "old people
couples picture".  I laughed until I cried!
Guess the gray hair gave it away!
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

How far from the object does the phone have to be in order to read text??
At 01:35 PM 12/1/2016, you wrote:
>qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I 
>haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the 
>Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very 
>low lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy 
>about is that taking a picture of text was quick and with excellent 
>results.  I hope that those of you that are not getting good results, do so 
>eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert
>Andrew J. LaPointe
>Co-Chairman
>Salem Commission on Disabilities
>President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>34 Raymond Ave.
>Salem, MA. 01970
>Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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RE: apple tv, and emails

[Pablo C. Morales]

I would like to know why apple is doing it?

Most smart TVs allow users to browse on internet, and some smart Tv allow users 
to read emails. It doesn’t make any sense.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple tv, and emails

 

No, Apple has not brought Safari to the Apple TV 4th Generation and so far has 
apparently not allowed third party developers such as Google or Firefox to make 
browsers for the Apple TV.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo C. Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: apple tv, and emails

 

Hi Guys,

With the apple tv 4th generation, or what ever is the name of the last apple 
tv. Are we able to navigate on internet?

Thank you,

 

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RE: Identifi

[Pablo C. Morales]

The perception that being old, or over weight, or short, or blind as something 
bad, is just opinions. The app is going to see that there is people with gray 
hair, and it is a true like we are blind. Now if we perceive that being old or 
being blind is something bad, it is our problem. I don't see as a problem that 
the app detail these kind of things.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifi

It may have been developed by a young man (to me 17 or 18 is not a kids any 
more) but I'm sure he doesn't control the actual descriptions. I don't know how 
the app does what it does, but it is obviously comparing the pictures to some 
sort of database and then it makes intelligent choices as to what it "sees".



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

Keep in mind that it was developed by a kid, to whom anyone over the age of 
30 is probably "old".
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sherrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

I was really happy that it actually read out the name from a round
supplement bottle in pretty low light.  Much better than KNFB.  And it did a
good job on pictures, too.  But it was brutally honest! The description for
a picture of me, my husband, my sister and her husband was "old people
couples picture".  I laughed until I cried!
Guess the gray hair gave it away!
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

How far from the object does the phone have to be in order to read text??
At 01:35 PM 12/1/2016, you wrote:
>qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I 
>haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the 
>Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very 
>low lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy 
>about is that taking a picture of text was quick and with excellent 
>results.  I hope that those of you that are not getting good results, do so 
>eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert
>Andrew J. LaPointe
>Co-Chairman
>Salem Commission on Disabilities
>President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>34 Raymond Ave.
>Salem, MA. 01970
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RE: Apple watch's bluetooth capabilities

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, I don't think so, the watch connects to the same network your phone is on 
so there is no actual WiFi settings on the watch itself.
Also, note that there is no on-screen keyboard, you can reply to text messages 
(or send them) using SIRI and SIRI alone.
There also is no phone keypad which in my opinion is stupid and unexplainable 
to me since there is a keypad on the screen to enter your security code for 
when the watch is not on your arm. When it's on your arm you can unlock it the 
first time simply by unlocking your iPhone with touch Id, consequently you 
don't have to unlock the watch as long as it stays on your arm. What I don't 
get is why there is no phone DialPad if it clearly is possible to have a 
functional keypad on the screen. Granted you don't often need it, but what if 
you want to make a call with the watch where you have to navigate even a simple 
menu like "Press 1 for Customer Servive" or "Press 2 for Technical Support".

Regards,
Sieghard
Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo C. Morales
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple watch's bluetooth capabilities

Hi all,
Just a question about the apple watch. This device has Bluetooth 4. Can I 
connect a Bluetooth keyboard to a apple watch?
In case that it is no possible,  how can I connect this apple watch to a  
wwireless network?
Thank you,

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RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Certainly a much more encouraging message than the one I received from Neato 
Robotics even though the Neato is less expensive and gets better reviews.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
pholdstock
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the reply 
I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very positive 
:-).

 Dear Mr. Holdstock,

Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.

We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.

The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple mobile 
devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make it easier 
to use for the visually impaired people.

I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
technology.

I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and will 
help to improve the robot's features even further.

Kind regards,

Sibin
iRobot Customer Care


Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie 
> wrote:
I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an MP3 
player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and my 
friends love it. LOL!

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi,

Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery 
status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only 
the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. This 
means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit to 
accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, ironically, 
that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not write in the 
edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not a Neato one. I 
suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is something that we 
need to keep reminding the various developers about. However, and I imagine 
that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, 
without the app and it will do its job, you just have less control over modes 
etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, 
including seeing the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, 
since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more 
than anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps 
when we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me 
and I don't really like the Cloud

In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is the 
easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to maintain, 
empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, 
almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running 
jump when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into my 
porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful to see it 
lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!

I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be aware 
of VO when putting out app updates.

Happy hoovering! Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:
Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.

The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but I’m 
still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could with 
better accessibility.

I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday 

Apple watch's bluetooth capabilities

[Pablo C. Morales]

Hi all,

Just a question about the apple watch. This device has Bluetooth 4. Can I
connect a Bluetooth keyboard to a apple watch?

In case that it is no possible,  how can I connect this apple watch to a
wwireless network?

Thank you,

 

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Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

[pholdstock]

Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the reply 
I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very positive 
:-).

 Dear Mr. Holdstock,
 
Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.
 
We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.
 
The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple mobile 
devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make it easier 
to use for the visually impaired people.
 
I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
technology.
 
I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and will 
help to improve the robot's features even further.
 
Kind regards,
 
Sibin
iRobot Customer Care 


Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie  wrote:
> 
> I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an 
> MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and 
> my friends love it. LOL!
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
> pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
> speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
> really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
> downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the 
> battery status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow 
> for only the most simple of commands, though, the  battery status is now 
> viewable. This means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit 
> to accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, 
> ironically, that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not 
> write in the edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not 
> a Neato one. I suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is 
> something that we need to keep reminding the various developers about. 
> However, and I imagine that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected 
> is usable, at its most basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two 
> buttons. It can be used, without the app and it will do its job, you just 
> have less control over modes etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my 
> iPhone 4s, so can do everything, including seeing the battery status on my 6. 
> Just as an aside, I have found, since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more 
> and more, which is running 9x. more than anything, I wish we could, easily, 
> revert to previous versions of apps when we discover new accessibility 
> issues. I don't have the use of a computer, using my iPhone, independently, 
> so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me and I don't really like the 
> Cloud
>  
> In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
> certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
> with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is 
> the easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to 
> maintain, empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than 
> my own! and, almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it 
> takes a running jump when it encounters a particularly difficult 
> threash-hold, going into my porch. And when it gets itself into a tight 
> place, it is wonderful to see it lift its bottom and try to extract itself, 
> almost virtically!
>  
> I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
> the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be 
> aware of VO when putting out app updates.
>  
> Happy hoovering! Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
>> products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but 
>> I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could 
>> with better accessibility.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to make 
>> their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I received a 
>> response direct message from them several hours later thanking me for 
>> bringing this to their attention, and that they had forwarded the request on 
>> to engineering. Of course, there’s no guarantee 

FW: City Lights app for finding traffic lights

[Gary Bowers]

Hi ERgon,

Thanks for your response. Your explanation was helpful.

I look forward to trying the app when it makes its way to Texas.

Gary


-Original Message-
From: erjon.hatillari [mailto:supp...@citylightsapp.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 5:36 PM
To: viphone; gdbowers
Subject: City Lights app for finding traffic lights

Hi Ron, hi Gary,


I'm the creator of the app that locates traffic light positions and alerts the 
user when nearby, called City Lights.


Hey Ron, regarding your issue on the app, please check if you have the latest 
version of the app because Montreal was added in the latest update about 13 
hours ago Eastern European time zone. 


Regarding your usage issue, you will need to have the app running while you 
wake, the app won't turn off or stop unless you press the home button of the 
iPhone. This was the only way i could think of to prevent dramatic battery loss 
otherwise the app had to use your location all the time and kill the battery 
life.


Hey Gary, in the next update i will include Denton the city in Texas, hope you 
can use it soon.


Kind regards,


Erjon B. Hatillari

@CityLightsApp  

citylightsapp.com  

App Store 
 



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RE: Identifi question

[Richard Turner]

Right now, the only way is to copy it to the clipboard with the three-finger 
quadruple tap.
Your default VoiceOver voice will then repeat it, plus you could then paste 
that somewhere in an edit box if you wish.

If you want to send a note to the developer requesting various tweaks, go to:
www.getidentifi.com

Richard

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Hi All,
Is there any way to make it repeat what it says about a picture?
Mr. Ed

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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert, 

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 

Cheers Brett. 


> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
>Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
> will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
> erroneous assumptions.
> 
> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
> tell me the purpose of this choice.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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RE: Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

[Richard Turner]

Louanna already mentioned that.
I had not ever used the expand thread and frankly didn’t even know it was there.
I thought I would save the list and research it on my own.
Well, I think I’ll ask here next time since Apple didn’t even suggest that easy 
way to do this.

Thanks,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

Hi Richard,

Why not put focus on the main thread (don't open it) and then flick down with 
one finger to "Expand Thread". Once you double tap on that you can flick right 
through all messages in the thread and use the normal swipe down or up just 
like on a single message to put focus on Delete, double tap and you are only 
deleting that message.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 12:22 PM
To: 'ViPone list' >
Subject: Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

Greetings,
Bear with me as this is a little lengthy.

I couldn't figure out how to delete messages from a thread without deleting the 
entire thread.  The only way I could find was to turn off threading, then 
delete the messages I didn't want to keep, then turn threading back on.

I first wrote to Apple accessibility, but the steps they gave me didn't really 
work, though If I had kept swiping right, they probably would have, but I ran 
out of patience with swiping.  I will explain that later.
I called Apple Accessibility, and found a very helpful guy.  He couldn't figure 
it out either.
He then talked with the guy who had responded to my Email.  He still was having 
difficulty.
Then, I accidentally deleted a single message but had no idea how.

I found another thread, and found that if I followed the steps on this one, 
after 13 swipes to the right, yes, count them, 13; I found the more actions 
button.  Double tapped, and then I could trash the one message.

I found a shorter way.  Partly, because another message I tried that with I 
probably  would have had to swipe a lot more than 13 times.

The shorter way, is to follow these steps.

Open the thread.
Make sure the rotor is on messages.
Flick down to the message you want to delete from the thread.
Now, touch at the bottom left corner on Mark message--do not double tap--just 
touch to get focus there.
Flick left once, then flick right twice, and you will be on the More Actions 
button.
Double tap.
You will have these choices: Reply, Flag, Trash.
Double tap on Trash, and only that one message will be deleted.

The man I spoke with is going to write this up and suggest they at the very 
least make the instructions more clear.
I'm hoping they can just make that More Actions button easier to get to.

HTH,
Richard



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RE: Youtube channel updates and such

[Lelia Struve]

Thanks, honestly I never would have figured that out, I hope that helped others 
too. 

Lelia

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Sharonda Greenlaw
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Subject: Re: Youtube channel updates and such

When the video loads and you choose to like it, go to the name of the video and 
swipe up or down. Like is in that setting. It's just like you would do on 
Facebook to a status.

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi on this same line of questioning, ever since a few updates ago with the 
> youtube app, I can't like videos any more.
> 
> Any tips? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Lelia
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Youtube channel updates and such
> 
> there should be a setting within each channel to which you are subscribed to 
> disable notifications from that channel. You may need to look within each 
> channel to find it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 06:17
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Youtube channel updates and such
> 
> Hello once more, everyone.
> 
> 
> I have Youtube on my Ipad Mini. I am subscribed to a few channels. One of 
> them happens to be the Voice.
> 
> 
> I enjoy being subscribed to this channel.
> 
> However, I get several notices, in the week, sometimes a few in one day.
> Notices of videos that have been uploaded.
> 
> 
> Is there a way to stop this from happening?
> 
> If so, how would I do this?
> 
> 
> I'm sure that I set this up when adding the channel. I just don't think I 
> realized how many notices I would receive. I want to look at the channel when 
> I want to do so.
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> 
> 
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RE: Identifi question

[Mr. Ed]

Hi All,
Is there any way to make it repeat what it says about a picture?
Mr. Ed

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Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert, 

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 

Cheers Brett. 


> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
>Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
> will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
> erroneous assumptions.
> 
> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
> tell me the purpose of this choice.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Don Roberts
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Re: Apple ID for a new Iphone owner who does not have a computer

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

YOur friend just needs an email address. If they don't have one, they can sign 
up for iCloud. They'll get an iCloud email address they can use for their Apple 
ID.

Best,
Anna



> On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:21 PM, fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, list.
> 
> A friend of mine has purchased a new iPhone 5S and he would like to make 
> Apple ID but he does not have a computer.
> How can he make an Apple ID without a computer and ITune?
> Thanks!
> 
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RE: Identifi

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It may have been developed by a young man (to me 17 or 18 is not a kids any 
more) but I'm sure he doesn't control the actual descriptions. I don't know how 
the app does what it does, but it is obviously comparing the pictures to some 
sort of database and then it makes intelligent choices as to what it "sees".



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

Keep in mind that it was developed by a kid, to whom anyone over the age of 
30 is probably "old".
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sherrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

I was really happy that it actually read out the name from a round
supplement bottle in pretty low light.  Much better than KNFB.  And it did a
good job on pictures, too.  But it was brutally honest! The description for
a picture of me, my husband, my sister and her husband was "old people
couples picture".  I laughed until I cried!
Guess the gray hair gave it away!
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

How far from the object does the phone have to be in order to read text??
At 01:35 PM 12/1/2016, you wrote:
>qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I 
>haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the 
>Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very 
>low lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy 
>about is that taking a picture of text was quick and with excellent 
>results.  I hope that those of you that are not getting good results, do so 
>eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert
>Andrew J. LaPointe
>Co-Chairman
>Salem Commission on Disabilities
>President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>34 Raymond Ave.
>Salem, MA. 01970
>Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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RE: Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

Why not put focus on the main thread (don't open it) and then flick down with 
one finger to "Expand Thread". Once you double tap on that you can flick right 
through all messages in the thread and use the normal swipe down or up just 
like on a single message to put focus on Delete, double tap and you are only 
deleting that message.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 12:22 PM
To: 'ViPone list' 
Subject: Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

Greetings,
Bear with me as this is a little lengthy.

I couldn't figure out how to delete messages from a thread without deleting the 
entire thread.  The only way I could find was to turn off threading, then 
delete the messages I didn't want to keep, then turn threading back on.

I first wrote to Apple accessibility, but the steps they gave me didn't really 
work, though If I had kept swiping right, they probably would have, but I ran 
out of patience with swiping.  I will explain that later.
I called Apple Accessibility, and found a very helpful guy.  He couldn't figure 
it out either.
He then talked with the guy who had responded to my Email.  He still was having 
difficulty.
Then, I accidentally deleted a single message but had no idea how.

I found another thread, and found that if I followed the steps on this one, 
after 13 swipes to the right, yes, count them, 13; I found the more actions 
button.  Double tapped, and then I could trash the one message.

I found a shorter way.  Partly, because another message I tried that with I 
probably  would have had to swipe a lot more than 13 times.

The shorter way, is to follow these steps.

Open the thread.
Make sure the rotor is on messages.
Flick down to the message you want to delete from the thread.
Now, touch at the bottom left corner on Mark message--do not double tap--just 
touch to get focus there.
Flick left once, then flick right twice, and you will be on the More Actions 
button.
Double tap.
You will have these choices: Reply, Flag, Trash.
Double tap on Trash, and only that one message will be deleted.

The man I spoke with is going to write this up and suggest they at the very 
least make the instructions more clear.
I'm hoping they can just make that More Actions button easier to get to.

HTH,
Richard



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RE: New app for finding traffic lights

[Gary Bowers]

Ron,

Thanks for your comments. Some people in an O group were excited about the 
app, but your review is the only one I've seen from someone who has actually 
tried it.

I should have said in my original message that I knew of no one who has 
personally tried the thing.

And it seemed like such a good idea!

Thanks again!

Gary in Texas


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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New app for finding traffic lights

Hi Gary,

I'm in Montreal and tried it yesterday.  A friend of mine also tried it about 
10 miles from my place, also in Montreal and got the same results.  For now, 
you are not missing anything.  It doesn't work except in very rare cases.  At 
first look, it seems like the phone has to be unlocked and it also looks like 
you have to be in that app.  I noticed that, with this app open, my Blind 
Square didn't work at all. 

Ron & 

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


> On Dec 1, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
> 
> I have not tried the following app because it doesn't cover my area.
> Consequently, I can't answer any questions about it that aren't 
> already on the iTunes page.
> 
> This is a new free app for travelers who are blind or visually impaired.
> 
> The app is called City Lights - Navigation and is designed to give a 
> vibration alert as a traveler nears a t
> 
> Cities supported at the moment include:
> 
> Australia: Victoria State.
> 
> Canada: Montreal.
> 
> Greece: Athens.
> 
> UK: Manchester.
> 
> USA: San Francisco, Oakland, Chula Vista and Boston.
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/city-lights-navigation/id1171233429?mt
> =8
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Re: Apple ID for a new Iphone owner who does not have a computer

[fzlmahmood30]

Actually, my friend has just migrated from Symbian phone to iPhone. He does not 
have an email either nor he is a computer literate.
Step-by-step instructions are much appreciated.
Thanks!Sent from my iPhone



Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 3, 2016, at 1:59 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Just create it straight on the iPhone. Depending on at what stage the friend 
> is at, the steps will depend.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 2, 2016 8:21 pm
> Subject: Apple ID for a new Iphone owner who does not have a computer
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, list.
>> 
>> A friend of mine has purchased a new iPhone 5S and he would like to make 
>> Apple ID but he does not have a computer.
>> How can he make an Apple ID without a computer and ITune?
>> Thanks!
>> 
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Re: Identifi

[Andy Baracco]

Keep in mind that it was developed by a kid, to whom anyone over the age of 
30 is probably "old".

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sherrie

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

I was really happy that it actually read out the name from a round
supplement bottle in pretty low light.  Much better than KNFB.  And it did a
good job on pictures, too.  But it was brutally honest! The description for
a picture of me, my husband, my sister and her husband was "old people
couples picture".  I laughed until I cried!
Guess the gray hair gave it away!
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Ann Byrne

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

How far from the object does the phone have to be in order to read text??
At 01:35 PM 12/1/2016, you wrote:
qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I 
haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the 
Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very 
low lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy 
about is that taking a picture of text was quick and with excellent 
results.  I hope that those of you that are not getting good results, do so 
eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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Re: Apple ID for a new Iphone owner who does not have a computer

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Just create it straight on the iPhone. Depending on at what stage the friend is 
at, the steps will depend.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 2, 2016 8:21 pm
Subject: Apple ID for a new Iphone owner who does not have a computer

>
>
> Hi, list.
> 
> A friend of mine has purchased a new iPhone 5S and he would like to make 
> Apple ID but he does not have a computer.
> How can he make an Apple ID without a computer and ITune?
> Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple ID for a new Iphone owner who does not have a computer

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi , This is helga. How are you?  To answer your question, he can create his 
apple id using Safari. You know logging to the apple page adn create an apple 
Id that way. Hop this helps. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks 
and God bless!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2016, at 3:21 PM, fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
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RE: Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

[Richard Turner]

Well, I should have asked here first.
That is certainly easier.

I will let Apple Accessibility know that it is that simple.

Thank you very much,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Louana Sterling
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

The way I do it is, on a thread flick up to expand thread and tape it. Then i 
can flick up to deleate one message.

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
Greetings,
Bear with me as this is a little lengthy.

I couldn't figure out how to delete messages from a thread without deleting the 
entire thread.  The only way I could find was to turn off threading, then 
delete the messages I didn't want to keep, then turn threading back on.

I first wrote to Apple accessibility, but the steps they gave me didn't really 
work, though If I had kept swiping right, they probably would have, but I ran 
out of patience with swiping.  I will explain that later.
I called Apple Accessibility, and found a very helpful guy.  He couldn't figure 
it out either.
He then talked with the guy who had responded to my Email.  He still was having 
difficulty.
Then, I accidentally deleted a single message but had no idea how.

I found another thread, and found that if I followed the steps on this one, 
after 13 swipes to the right, yes, count them, 13; I found the more actions 
button.  Double tapped, and then I could trash the one message.

I found a shorter way.  Partly, because another message I tried that with I 
probably  would have had to swipe a lot more than 13 times.

The shorter way, is to follow these steps.

Open the thread.
Make sure the rotor is on messages.
Flick down to the message you want to delete from the thread.
Now, touch at the bottom left corner on Mark message--do not double tap--just 
touch to get focus there.
Flick left once, then flick right twice, and you will be on the More Actions 
button.
Double tap.
You will have these choices: Reply, Flag, Trash.
Double tap on Trash, and only that one message will be deleted.

The man I spoke with is going to write this up and suggest they at the very 
least make the instructions more clear.
I'm hoping they can just make that More Actions button easier to get to.

HTH,
Richard



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Re: Apple ID for a new Iphone owner who does not have a computer

[Joseph Hudson]

He has no Apple ID or even an old email address? If this is the case you can 
simply making iCloud email, and this will defiantly be his Apple ID. Once it's 
all set up. Somebody will have to give instructions on making been iCloud 
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Apple ID whenever I got my first iPod which list back in 2004. Or somewhere 
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> Thanks!
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Re: Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

[Louana Sterling]

The way I do it is, on a thread flick up to expand thread and tape it. Then i 
can flick up to deleate one message.

Sent from my iPod

> On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Bear with me as this is a little lengthy.
> 
>  
> 
> I couldn't figure out how to delete messages from a thread without deleting 
> the entire thread.  The only way I could find was to turn off threading, then 
> delete the messages I didn't want to keep, then turn threading back on.
> 
>  
> 
> I first wrote to Apple accessibility, but the steps they gave me didn't 
> really work, though If I had kept swiping right, they probably would have, 
> but I ran out of patience with swiping.  I will explain that later.
> 
> I called Apple Accessibility, and found a very helpful guy.  He couldn't 
> figure it out either.
> 
> He then talked with the guy who had responded to my Email.  He still was 
> having difficulty.
> 
> Then, I accidentally deleted a single message but had no idea how.
> 
>  
> 
> I found another thread, and found that if I followed the steps on this one, 
> after 13 swipes to the right, yes, count them, 13; I found the more actions 
> button.  Double tapped, and then I could trash the one message.
> 
>  
> 
> I found a shorter way.  Partly, because another message I tried that with I 
> probably  would have had to swipe a lot more than 13 times.
> 
>  
> 
> The shorter way, is to follow these steps.
> 
>  
> 
> Open the thread.
> 
> Make sure the rotor is on messages.
> 
> Flick down to the message you want to delete from the thread.
> 
> Now, touch at the bottom left corner on Mark message--do not double tap--just 
> touch to get focus there.
> 
> Flick left once, then flick right twice, and you will be on the More Actions 
> button.
> 
> Double tap.
> 
> You will have these choices: Reply, Flag, Trash.
> 
> Double tap on Trash, and only that one message will be deleted.
> 
>  
> 
> The man I spoke with is going to write this up and suggest they at the very 
> least make the instructions more clear.
> 
> I'm hoping they can just make that More Actions button easier to get to.
> 
>  
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Richard
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
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Apple ID for a new Iphone owner who does not have a computer

[fzlmahmood30]

Hi, list.

A friend of mine has purchased a new iPhone 5S and he would like to make Apple 
ID but he does not have a computer.
How can he make an Apple ID without a computer and ITune?
Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

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Deleting messages from a thread without deleting the entire thread

[Richard Turner]

Greetings,
Bear with me as this is a little lengthy.

I couldn't figure out how to delete messages from a thread without deleting the 
entire thread.  The only way I could find was to turn off threading, then 
delete the messages I didn't want to keep, then turn threading back on.

I first wrote to Apple accessibility, but the steps they gave me didn't really 
work, though If I had kept swiping right, they probably would have, but I ran 
out of patience with swiping.  I will explain that later.
I called Apple Accessibility, and found a very helpful guy.  He couldn't figure 
it out either.
He then talked with the guy who had responded to my Email.  He still was having 
difficulty.
Then, I accidentally deleted a single message but had no idea how.

I found another thread, and found that if I followed the steps on this one, 
after 13 swipes to the right, yes, count them, 13; I found the more actions 
button.  Double tapped, and then I could trash the one message.

I found a shorter way.  Partly, because another message I tried that with I 
probably  would have had to swipe a lot more than 13 times.

The shorter way, is to follow these steps.

Open the thread.
Make sure the rotor is on messages.
Flick down to the message you want to delete from the thread.
Now, touch at the bottom left corner on Mark message--do not double tap--just 
touch to get focus there.
Flick left once, then flick right twice, and you will be on the More Actions 
button.
Double tap.
You will have these choices: Reply, Flag, Trash.
Double tap on Trash, and only that one message will be deleted.

The man I spoke with is going to write this up and suggest they at the very 
least make the instructions more clear.
I'm hoping they can just make that More Actions button easier to get to.

HTH,
Richard



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Re: Identifi

[alia robinson]

OMG: that is hilarious! LOL 

Alia
> On Dec 2, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Sherrie  wrote:
> .  But it was brutally honest! The description for a picture of me, my 
> husband, my sister and her husband was "old people couples picture".  I 
> laughed until I cried!
> Guess the gray hair gave it away!

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RE: Identifi question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe you should try it, you never know, iDentifi may come back and say “Selfi 
of good looking male model” *smile*.
If it says “Selfi of presumed extinct Neanderthal man” please go directly to 
your nearest University Anthropology department for DNA testing *grin*


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifi question

Good to know.
I never use the front facing camera.  I don’t want to know what I look like, 
though taking a selfie wouldn’t help anyway, grin.

Later,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifi question

Hi Richard,

Screen curtain does not affect the front facing camera either. Just take a 
selfi and ask somebody to look at it, or, in order to proof that iDentifi 
doesn’t care about screen curtain, take a selfi or a picture with the main 
Camera app with camera switched to front and then import that picture with 
iDentifi, I guaranty that it will describe it just fine.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Brett,
i just did another test in a very dark room with the flash set to automatic and 
the screen curtain on.
I got a very good result in about 10 seconds with it set to high accuracy.
This is on my 5s running iOS 10.1.1.
Do you have anyone around who could test using your phone?
There is no way I can possibly imagine  that the screen curtain could make any 
difference while using the back facing camera, which is what it defaults to 
every time.
I did try using the front facing camera, but got nothing. The next time I hit 
take photo, the camera was set to the back facing, so unless you are somehow 
accidentally toggling the camera to front facing every time you use the screen 
curtain, which I don't think is possible, you are doing something different 
when the screen curtain is on.
Richard
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Brett 
> wrote:
Wonder what the difference is then! It diffinately makes a difference for me: I 
get no rsults with the screen curtain on.

Cheers Brett.

On 2 Dec. 2016, at 1:11 pm, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Having the screen curtain on has no impact on the results.
The screen curtain doesn't effect the back facing camera.

I have done most of my pictures, including the ones set to text, with the 
screen curtain on.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brett
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert,

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture.

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain.

Cheers Brett.


On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts 
> wrote:

 Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I will 
ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
erroneous assumptions.

After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
tell me the purpose of this choice.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: Identifi

[Sherrie]

I was really happy that it actually read out the name from a round 
supplement bottle in pretty low light.  Much better than KNFB.  And it did a 
good job on pictures, too.  But it was brutally honest! The description for 
a picture of me, my husband, my sister and her husband was "old people 
couples picture".  I laughed until I cried!

Guess the gray hair gave it away!
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Ann Byrne

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi

How far from the object does the phone have to be in order to read text??
At 01:35 PM 12/1/2016, you wrote:
qHi, just for your info, I am using the 6 s with the latest I O S.  I 
haven’t had a bad pic result yet and I have been playing with the 
Identifi since around 4:30 this morning.  Also, I took some pics in very 
low lighting.  I selected for the high quality results.  What I am happy 
about is that taking a picture of text was quick and with excellent 
results.  I hope that those of you that are not getting good results, do so 
eventually.  You’ll love it.  Andy and Shubert

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Re: change names of apps

[Paul Richard McGann]

sieghard, 

thank you, and there are some efforts to try. 

when I hit space bar plus dot 1,2,3,4 6 (chord &) it shows labeling and I type 
when I am at name of app. and save it. 

you are correct about app switchers, and I was able to see new name iek this.  
and I did try my best in setting to change, but no luck. 

sincerely, 
rich 


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 12:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: change names of apps

Hi Rich,

 

The only way I know of is to use the custom label feature of iOS which is a 
2-finger double tap and hold. Unfortunately I have no idea how you do this on a 
braille display/keyboard. You can rename apps with this, but in the app 
switcher, for example, the apps may appear the old/original way and in some 
situations I guess it is possible that the label doesn’t stick and you may have 
to redo it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: change names of apps

 

everyone, 

 

I tried to change app names. 

 

since there are two apps with same name messengers. one is facebook and other 
is yahoo messengers. 

 

I tried to change name for messengers by yahoo into different name like yahoo 
messengers, and it was fine, but later yahoo name was removed after ios 
upgrading. I give up. 

 

any suggestion or any advice. thank you1

 

sincerely, 

rich 

 

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RE: Identifi question

[Richard Turner]

Good to know.
I never use the front facing camera.  I don’t want to know what I look like, 
though taking a selfie wouldn’t help anyway, grin.

Later,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifi question

Hi Richard,

Screen curtain does not affect the front facing camera either. Just take a 
selfi and ask somebody to look at it, or, in order to proof that iDentifi 
doesn’t care about screen curtain, take a selfi or a picture with the main 
Camera app with camera switched to front and then import that picture with 
iDentifi, I guaranty that it will describe it just fine.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Brett,
i just did another test in a very dark room with the flash set to automatic and 
the screen curtain on.
I got a very good result in about 10 seconds with it set to high accuracy.
This is on my 5s running iOS 10.1.1.
Do you have anyone around who could test using your phone?
There is no way I can possibly imagine  that the screen curtain could make any 
difference while using the back facing camera, which is what it defaults to 
every time.
I did try using the front facing camera, but got nothing. The next time I hit 
take photo, the camera was set to the back facing, so unless you are somehow 
accidentally toggling the camera to front facing every time you use the screen 
curtain, which I don't think is possible, you are doing something different 
when the screen curtain is on.
Richard
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Brett 
> wrote:
Wonder what the difference is then! It diffinately makes a difference for me: I 
get no rsults with the screen curtain on.

Cheers Brett.


On 2 Dec. 2016, at 1:11 pm, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Having the screen curtain on has no impact on the results.
The screen curtain doesn't effect the back facing camera.

I have done most of my pictures, including the ones set to text, with the 
screen curtain on.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brett
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert,

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture.

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain.

Cheers Brett.


On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts 
> wrote:

 Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I will 
ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
erroneous assumptions.

After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
tell me the purpose of this choice.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: Identifi question

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all, 

there are issues that I always have screen curtain on, I have no problems 
following what dollar currency reveals. also no problem with knfb as logn as t 
is fine. 

sincerely, 
rich 


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Identifi question

Hi Richard,

 

Screen curtain does not affect the front facing camera either. Just take a 
selfi and ask somebody to look at it, or, in order to proof that iDentifi 
doesn’t care about screen curtain, take a selfi or a picture with the main 
Camera app with camera switched to front and then import that picture with 
iDentifi, I guaranty that it will describe it just fine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

 

Brett,

i just did another test in a very dark room with the flash set to automatic and 
the screen curtain on.

I got a very good result in about 10 seconds with it set to high accuracy.

This is on my 5s running iOS 10.1.1.

Do you have anyone around who could test using your phone?

There is no way I can possibly imagine  that the screen curtain could make any 
difference while using the back facing camera, which is what it defaults to 
every time.

I did try using the front facing camera, but got nothing. The next time I hit 
take photo, the camera was set to the back facing, so unless you are somehow 
accidentally toggling the camera to front facing every time you use the screen 
curtain, which I don't think is possible, you are doing something different 
when the screen curtain is on.

Richard

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

- Satsuki Shibuya

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Brett  wrote:

  Wonder what the difference is then! It diffinately makes a difference for me: 
I get no rsults with the screen curtain on. 

  Cheers Brett. 





On 2 Dec. 2016, at 1:11 pm, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 

Having the screen curtain on has no impact on the results.

The screen curtain doesn't effect the back facing camera.

 

I have done most of my pictures, including the ones set to text, with the 
screen curtain on.

 

Richard

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Brett

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Identifi question

 

Hi Robbert, 

 

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 

 

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 

 

Cheers Brett. 

 

 

  On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts 
 wrote:

   

   Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
erroneous assumptions.

   

  After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus 
locked unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  
Please tell me the purpose of this choice.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Don Roberts

   

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Re: New app for finding traffic lights

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Gary,

I'm in Montreal and tried it yesterday.  A friend of mine also tried it about 
10 miles from my place, also in Montreal and got the same results.  For now, 
you are not missing anything.  It doesn't work except in very rare cases.  At 
first look, it seems like the phone has to be unlocked and it also looks like 
you have to be in that app.  I noticed that, with this app open, my Blind 
Square didn't work at all. 

Ron & 

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


> On Dec 1, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
> 
> I have not tried the following app because it doesn't cover my area.
> Consequently, I can't answer any questions about it that aren't already on
> the iTunes page.
> 
> This is a new free app for travelers who are blind or visually impaired.
> 
> The app is called City Lights - Navigation and is designed to give a
> vibration alert as a traveler nears a t
> 
> Cities supported at the moment include:
> 
> Australia: Victoria State.
> 
> Canada: Montreal.
> 
> Greece: Athens.
> 
> UK: Manchester.
> 
> USA: San Francisco, Oakland, Chula Vista and Boston.
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/city-lights-navigation/id1171233429?mt=8
> 
> Gary in Texas
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RE: KNFB settings, was iDentifi Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Same here, KNFB Reader doesn’t really have a lot of settings to adjust except 
what Richard already mentioned, flash and document type. I personally like to 
set the Profile to automatic picture. This way I just place my phone flat on 
the page, make sure the upper right corner where the camera is located is 
approximately in the middle of the page and that the phone is straight/parallel 
to the edge, then I lift it straight up quite quickly to about 10 inches or a 
foot above the page. If the profile is set to automatic KNFB Reader will say 
“Text Detected” after a second or so, I then just hold the phone still and a 
second or two later the picture is taken automatically and I don’t have to tap 
anywhere. You may want to get sighted help to practice this because you have to 
have a feel for how high to lift the phone and it’s a good idea if somebody is 
there who can tell you if you are lifting it straight up because obviously if 
you move it to the left or right or up or down you may not get the entire page, 
same thing happens if you tilt it, but you can turn on tilt guidance to help 
with that.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB settings, was iDentifi Question


The main setting I might change is document type. It tends to default to 
multi-column, which may work fine in most situations, but if I don't get good 
results, I will change to single column.
Otherwise, keeping the flash set to automatic, is about all I mess with.
If I find something else I've changed, I will let you know. But I get generally 
excellent results.
The difference was yesterday, in a dark room when I tried the back of a book. 
then, it did a very bad job, while the iDentifi app did an excellent job.
But, that is the exception.
Richard

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 2, 2016, at 6:01 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> wrote:
Hi Richard, thank you for these tips.  I will practice this to see how I 
can get good results.  As I mentioned in a previous message, many knfb users 
get great results.  I know that I need to work with this app but, I also need 
to practice steadying my hands and concentrate more with that.
Now, as far as settings, can you share some of the settings you use?  Maybe I 
have some settings that are not as good as they should be.  Thanks so much for 
your help.  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 8:50 AM
To: ViPone list
Subject: KNFB settings, was iDentifi Question


Andrew,
Others may have different ideas, but what works best for me when using KNFB 
Reader, when not using a stand, is to put the phone flat on the document I want 
to scan with the camera and document going in the same direction, ie, the long 
side of the phone is parallel with the long side of the document.
Also, I keep the flash set to automatic. I make sure the corner where the 
camera is located is about dead center on the document.
Then, using both hands, I lift the phone about 11 or 12 inches above the 
document keeping it as level as I can.
Then I use the up volume button to take the picture.
Once you begin getting consistently good results, if you have steady hands, you 
can probably do this one handed and not have to start with the phone flat on 
the document.

HTH,
Richard

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RE: Identifi question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

Screen curtain does not affect the front facing camera either. Just take a 
selfi and ask somebody to look at it, or, in order to proof that iDentifi 
doesn’t care about screen curtain, take a selfi or a picture with the main 
Camera app with camera switched to front and then import that picture with 
iDentifi, I guaranty that it will describe it just fine.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Brett,
i just did another test in a very dark room with the flash set to automatic and 
the screen curtain on.
I got a very good result in about 10 seconds with it set to high accuracy.
This is on my 5s running iOS 10.1.1.
Do you have anyone around who could test using your phone?
There is no way I can possibly imagine  that the screen curtain could make any 
difference while using the back facing camera, which is what it defaults to 
every time.
I did try using the front facing camera, but got nothing. The next time I hit 
take photo, the camera was set to the back facing, so unless you are somehow 
accidentally toggling the camera to front facing every time you use the screen 
curtain, which I don't think is possible, you are doing something different 
when the screen curtain is on.
Richard
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Brett 
> wrote:
Wonder what the difference is then! It diffinately makes a difference for me: I 
get no rsults with the screen curtain on.

Cheers Brett.



On 2 Dec. 2016, at 1:11 pm, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Having the screen curtain on has no impact on the results.
The screen curtain doesn't effect the back facing camera.

I have done most of my pictures, including the ones set to text, with the 
screen curtain on.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brett
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert,

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture.

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain.

Cheers Brett.


On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts 
> wrote:

 Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I will 
ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
erroneous assumptions.

After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
tell me the purpose of this choice.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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RE: Identifi question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That just makes no sense, I just tried it again and it worked perfectly with 
the screen curtain on and a picture I took. The reason why it is just not 
logical to me is that the screen curtain merely puts black pixels all over the 
screen, it does not in some way black out the rear or, for the matter, even the 
front camera. This came up a few weeks ago and I took several pictures and 
video with the rear camera and I took pictures with the front camera and then 
made a Facetime Audio call to one of my employees with the screen curtain on. 
He said he could see me fine and all the pictures I took were just fine. Like I 
said, screen curtain blacks out the screen but not any of the camera lenses and 
what iDentifi does is use the main phone camera to take a picture, then the 
picture is uploaded to some server and when the result is available it comes 
back and is spoken, the screen just doesn't come into play here.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 4:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Wonder what the difference is then! It diffinately makes a difference for me: I 
get no rsults with the screen curtain on. 

Cheers Brett. 


> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 1:11 pm, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Having the screen curtain on has no impact on the results.
> The screen curtain doesn't effect the back facing camera.
> 
> I have done most of my pictures, including the ones set to text, with the 
> screen curtain on.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifi question
> 
> Hi Robbert, 
> 
> I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
> foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 
> 
> Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
> launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
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>> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
>> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  
>> Please tell me the purpose of this choice.
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Re: Looking for accessible stickers

[Traci Duncan]

The Starbucks sticker pack is accessible, so is the Cookie Monster pack.  ;)

Traci

> On Nov 23, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Oh yeah I have the mac icons.
> Yeah they are, Windy. am I allowed to post links in hereGet Outlook for iOS 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM -0500, "Devin Prater" 
> > wrote:
> 
> I know that the Mac icon pack is accessible.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:39 AM Wendy Alling  > wrote:
> Hi, I have Labrador stickers. They are not accessible. Are the two packs you 
> have accessible?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Nov 22, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Maria Reyes  > > wrote:
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> > Hi all! My name is Maria. I am wondering if anyone knows of any accessible 
> > stickers for iMessage? I have the iMore sticker pack and a cookie monster 
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Re: direct TV now updated

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


Ok, I never wanted to put this App on my Iphone. I don't use my Iphone 
for such things. I have a few games, mail accounts, the WalMart App, the 
Overstock App, TV Guide, and things of this nature.

This is why I got an Ipad. I wanted my music programs and Bard, and such 
things like that on there.


However, when Kliphton said what he said about the App on the Iphone, I 
felt I had to try it. I have a 5S, with the latest update. But I don't 
think that matters. Just thought I would point this out.


Anyway, I really dislike the App on my Ipad! It was very difficult to 
deal with, in part to the split screen. I found it very confusing, and 
frustrating. So I will be removing it.


Now I will leave it on my Apple tv. Even though, I still struggle with 
it on there, to a good degree. But I believe I will get better at 
figuring it out.

Now I don't know if this is really accurate or not. But I read on the 
reviews of the App, that if you still have an Apple 3rd generation, you 
can air play the App on to your tv. I still have one of these in my 
living room, for now. So I like the fact that I could watch stuff with 
my sighted roommate.

When we tried this with the Ipad last night, he saw no picture, just 
info, and buttons. That was odd to me.


Now I do really love the App on my Iphone. I find it so much easier to use.

I do wish, as everyone else, that the channels were labeled. This would 
make it so much easier to add the channel to your favorites. I have 
noticed that it does go in alphabetical order, which is nice. But who 
can memorize all that?

I know it starts with A


I haven't checked out the networks tab yet, to see what I may get. But I 
do want to do this.

I did add some channels to my favorites list. But I didn't like the fact 
that I had to try and remember how many channels I had to go from the 
last channel I added, once I found another channel. That was really a 
pain in the you know what.


As for searching for channels, this is great! So far I have found what I 
am looking for. At first, I had a hard time finding the channels option. 
I kept seeing shows and movies. But I did manage to find it.

But what I can't figure out, and don't get, is this.

Once I search for a channel and play it, I can't seem to add it to my 
favorites.

Does anyone know why this is?

If so, how can I go about doing this? What am I missing?

I mean, the whole idea of finding a channel, is to get it added to your 
favorites.


Anyway, I'm choosing to stick with this App for a while. Now that I know 
that right now it works best on my Iphone, so far. Even if this wasn't 
what I wanted.


Thank you for reading. I realize it was kind of long.


Terri


On 12/2/2016 7:12 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> Okay, so I have tried this app on appleTV, iPad mini, and iPhone.  I would 
> have to say the iPhone was the best experience.  Mainly because everything is 
> grouped together, and easy to get too.  1st off, you must change some 
> settings.  turn auto play off, next episode automatically starting off, and 
> mute sound when app starts should be off.  Once you do this, there are some 
> tabs at the bottom.  Home, shows, movies, and networks.  It works great, you 
> go into movies, and it lists all movies from your available channels, gives 
> you the year the movie was released, and a description of it. You can even 
> back out and go by TV show, or network.  And the best part about it is, if 
> you set your favorites on 1 device, they carry over to any device you sign 
> into.  I didn’t like the experience on iPad mini to much, the split screen 
> just confused me, but I don’t use the iPad mini every day, and someone who 
> does may understand the layout better.  I have already posted about appleTV 
> experience, so won’t repeat it here.  All in all, the experience is fine if 
> you have a little patients.  I am not disappointed.  SlingTV has some 
> thinking to do, because both there packages together, is 45 bucks, and only 
> 67 channels, with no HBO or Cina max.  Plus there feed is choppy at best.  I 
> watched direct TV now on 2 devices at the same time, and it never buffered.  
> Watched a NBA game on ESPN, and a movie on lifetime at the same time for 
> almost 2 hours.  HTH.
>


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Re: saving mp3 from downcast or podcast app?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi Cris, I just want to thank you for the instructions on downloading 
podcasts from downcast to dropbox.  I don’t know how I missed how to do this 
but, you guided me directly to my answer.  Thanks so much.  It worked like a 
charm.  Andy and Shubert

From: Chris Chaffin 
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: saving mp3 from downcast or podcast app?


I am not sure if you can save podcast files to Dropbox through the native 
podcast app, but I do know that it can be done through Downcast.
To save a podcast episode in Downcast:

* On the screen that contains a list of episodes for a podcast, after each 
episode you will see a more details button.  Double tap on this button.
* On the next screen, swipe down until you get to the export button.
* When you double tap the export button, you will get a pop up screen.  Swipe 
until you get to copy to storage provider and double tap.
* This will bring up a screen to choose which storage provider you want to 
export too.  Be sure you have Dropbox on your device.  Dropbox should be one of 
the choices, so double tap it.
* It will now bring up a list of all of your dropbox folders.  Just double tap 
on where you want to save the file.
* You will find a save button near the bottom of the screen, just double tap it 
to start the export process.

Hope this helps,

Chris


On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
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  Hi, I use downcast and also have podcasts downloaded to my podcast app on my 
I-Phone 6s.  My question is, how can I get those podcasts go into dropbox so I 
can put it on my victor stream’s podcast folder.  I want to do this with Joyce 
Meyer and rick warren’s work and most likely, others too.  I can’t seem to find 
a way to get the material to save off of the phone.  Thanks for any 
suggestions.  Andy and Shubert
  Andrew J. LaPointe
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Re: direct TV now updated

[Hope Paulos]

I am having the same issue with the network screen on my iphone   

Hope Paulos

> On Dec 2, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> I have an ask my sided husband yet, but based on what I am finding in the 
> android app with talkback, when you are on the screen with networks, talkback 
> says artwork a bunch of times as you swipe through. My suspicion is that 
> these are the unlabeled logos for the various networks which you are 
> subscribed. VoiceOver just isn't seeing them, at all. These are the channels 
> that should be labeled and aren't. So the screen as it is now is useless for 
> us.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 5:34 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
>> 
>> Couple of questions for you.  When on the Iphone and I click the networks 
>> button ..  I get a screen that has subscribed and unsubscribed sections and 
>> a show all button ... but no matter what it doesn't seem to list any 
>> networks .. are you seeing the same thing?
>> 
>> Also, I'm not seeing the most recent shows on like ABC.  For example, 
>> Designated Survivor .. aired 11/30 .. so it should be available now .. but 
>> the most recent episode is 10/25 .. so it's missing several .. anyone else 
>> confirm this.
>> 
>> Overall though I agree the service seems to work well ...
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, so I have tried this app on appleTV, iPad mini, and iPhone.  I would 
>>> have to say the iPhone was the best experience.  Mainly because everything 
>>> is grouped together, and easy to get too.  1st off, you must change some 
>>> settings.  turn auto play off, next episode automatically starting off, and 
>>> mute sound when app starts should be off.  Once you do this, there are some 
>>> tabs at the bottom.  Home, shows, movies, and networks.  It works great, 
>>> you go into movies, and it lists all movies from your available channels, 
>>> gives you the year the movie was released, and a description of it. You can 
>>> even back out and go by TV show, or network.  And the best part about it 
>>> is, if you set your favorites on 1 device, they carry over to any device 
>>> you sign into.  I didn’t like the experience on iPad mini to much, the 
>>> split screen just confused me, but I don’t use the iPad mini every day, and 
>>> someone who does may understand the layout better.  I have already posted 
>>> about appleTV experience, so won’t repeat it here.  All in all, the 
>>> experience is fine if you have a little patients.  I am not disappointed.  
>>> SlingTV has some thinking to do, because both there packages together, is 
>>> 45 bucks, and only 67 channels, with no HBO or Cina max.  Plus there feed 
>>> is choppy at best.  I watched direct TV now on 2 devices at the same time, 
>>> and it never buffered.  Watched a NBA game on ESPN, and a movie on lifetime 
>>> at the same time for almost 2 hours.  HTH.
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Re: direct TV now updated

[Mary Otten]

Hi Peter,
I have an ask my sided husband yet, but based on what I am finding in the 
android app with talkback, when you are on the screen with networks, talkback 
says artwork a bunch of times as you swipe through. My suspicion is that these 
are the unlabeled logos for the various networks which you are subscribed. 
VoiceOver just isn't seeing them, at all. These are the channels that should be 
labeled and aren't. So the screen as it is now is useless for us.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2016, at 5:34 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
> Couple of questions for you.  When on the Iphone and I click the networks 
> button ..  I get a screen that has subscribed and unsubscribed sections and a 
> show all button ... but no matter what it doesn't seem to list any networks 
> .. are you seeing the same thing?
> 
> Also, I'm not seeing the most recent shows on like ABC.  For example, 
> Designated Survivor .. aired 11/30 .. so it should be available now .. but 
> the most recent episode is 10/25 .. so it's missing several .. anyone else 
> confirm this.
> 
> Overall though I agree the service seems to work well ...
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, so I have tried this app on appleTV, iPad mini, and iPhone.  I would 
>> have to say the iPhone was the best experience.  Mainly because everything 
>> is grouped together, and easy to get too.  1st off, you must change some 
>> settings.  turn auto play off, next episode automatically starting off, and 
>> mute sound when app starts should be off.  Once you do this, there are some 
>> tabs at the bottom.  Home, shows, movies, and networks.  It works great, you 
>> go into movies, and it lists all movies from your available channels, gives 
>> you the year the movie was released, and a description of it. You can even 
>> back out and go by TV show, or network.  And the best part about it is, if 
>> you set your favorites on 1 device, they carry over to any device you sign 
>> into.  I didn’t like the experience on iPad mini to much, the split screen 
>> just confused me, but I don’t use the iPad mini every day, and someone who 
>> does may understand the layout better.  I have already posted about appleTV 
>> experience, so won’t repeat it here.  All in all, the experience is fine if 
>> you have a little patients.  I am not disappointed.  SlingTV has some 
>> thinking to do, because both there packages together, is 45 bucks, and only 
>> 67 channels, with no HBO or Cina max.  Plus there feed is choppy at best.  I 
>> watched direct TV now on 2 devices at the same time, and it never buffered.  
>> Watched a NBA game on ESPN, and a movie on lifetime at the same time for 
>> almost 2 hours.  HTH.
>> 
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Re: KNFB settings, was iDentifi Question

[Richard Turner]

The main setting I might change is document type. It tends to default to 
multi-column, which may work fine in most situations, but if I don't get good 
results, I will change to single column.
Otherwise, keeping the flash set to automatic, is about all I mess with.
If I find something else I've changed, I will let you know. But I get generally 
excellent results.
The difference was yesterday, in a dark room when I tried the back of a book. 
then, it did a very bad job, while the iDentifi app did an excellent job.
But, that is the exception.
Richard


"By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 2, 2016, at 6:01 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> wrote:

Hi Richard, thank you for these tips.  I will practice this to see how I 
can get good results.  As I mentioned in a previous message, many knfb users 
get great results.  I know that I need to work with this app but, I also need 
to practice steadying my hands and concentrate more with that.
Now, as far as settings, can you share some of the settings you use?  Maybe I 
have some settings that are not as good as they should be.  Thanks so much for 
your help.  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 8:50 AM
To: ViPone list
Subject: KNFB settings, was iDentifi Question


Andrew,
Others may have different ideas, but what works best for me when using KNFB 
Reader, when not using a stand, is to put the phone flat on the document I want 
to scan with the camera and document going in the same direction, ie, the long 
side of the phone is parallel with the long side of the document.
Also, I keep the flash set to automatic. I make sure the corner where the 
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Then, using both hands, I lift the phone about 11 or 12 inches above the 
document keeping it as level as I can.
Then I use the up volume button to take the picture.
Once you begin getting consistently good results, if you have steady hands, you 
can probably do this one handed and not have to start with the phone flat on 
the document.

HTH,
Richard


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Re: KNFB settings, was iDentifi Question

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi Richard, thank you for these tips.  I will practice this to see how I 
can get good results.  As I mentioned in a previous message, many knfb users 
get great results.  I know that I need to work with this app but, I also need 
to practice steadying my hands and concentrate more with that.
Now, as far as settings, can you share some of the settings you use?  Maybe I 
have some settings that are not as good as they should be.  Thanks so much for 
your help.  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 8:50 AM
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Subject: KNFB settings, was iDentifi Question


Andrew,
Others may have different ideas, but what works best for me when using KNFB 
Reader, when not using a stand, is to put the phone flat on the document I want 
to scan with the camera and document going in the same direction, ie, the long 
side of the phone is parallel with the long side of the document.
Also, I keep the flash set to automatic. I make sure the corner where the 
camera is located is about dead center on the document.
Then, using both hands, I lift the phone about 11 or 12 inches above the 
document keeping it as level as I can.
Then I use the up volume button to take the picture.
Once you begin getting consistently good results, if you have steady hands, you 
can probably do this one handed and not have to start with the phone flat on 
the document.

HTH,
Richard



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[Richard Turner]

Andrew,
Others may have different ideas, but what works best for me when using KNFB 
Reader, when not using a stand, is to put the phone flat on the document I want 
to scan with the camera and document going in the same direction, ie, the long 
side of the phone is parallel with the long side of the document.
Also, I keep the flash set to automatic. I make sure the corner where the 
camera is located is about dead center on the document.
Then, using both hands, I lift the phone about 11 or 12 inches above the 
document keeping it as level as I can.
Then I use the up volume button to take the picture.
Once you begin getting consistently good results, if you have steady hands, you 
can probably do this one handed and not have to start with the phone flat on 
the document.

HTH,
Richard


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Re: Identifi question

[Richard Turner]

Brett,
i just did another test in a very dark room with the flash set to automatic and 
the screen curtain on.
I got a very good result in about 10 seconds with it set to high accuracy.
This is on my 5s running iOS 10.1.1.
Do you have anyone around who could test using your phone?
There is no way I can possibly imagine  that the screen curtain could make any 
difference while using the back facing camera, which is what it defaults to 
every time.
I did try using the front facing camera, but got nothing. The next time I hit 
take photo, the camera was set to the back facing, so unless you are somehow 
accidentally toggling the camera to front facing every time you use the screen 
curtain, which I don't think is possible, you are doing something different 
when the screen curtain is on.
Richard
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On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Brett 
> wrote:

Wonder what the difference is then! It diffinately makes a difference for me: I 
get no rsults with the screen curtain on.

Cheers Brett.


On 2 Dec. 2016, at 1:11 pm, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Having the screen curtain on has no impact on the results.
The screen curtain doesn't effect the back facing camera.

I have done most of my pictures, including the ones set to text, with the 
screen curtain on.

Richard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert,

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture.

Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain.

Cheers Brett.


On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts 
> wrote:

 Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I will 
ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
erroneous assumptions.

After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  Please 
tell me the purpose of this choice.

Thanks.

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Re: direct TV now updated

[Peter Logan]

Couple of questions for you.  When on the Iphone and I click the networks 
button ..  I get a screen that has subscribed and unsubscribed sections and a 
show all button ... but no matter what it doesn't seem to list any networks .. 
are you seeing the same thing?

Also, I'm not seeing the most recent shows on like ABC.  For example, 
Designated Survivor .. aired 11/30 .. so it should be available now .. but the 
most recent episode is 10/25 .. so it's missing several .. anyone else confirm 
this.

Overall though I agree the service seems to work well ...


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Okay, so I have tried this app on appleTV, iPad mini, and iPhone.  I would 
> have to say the iPhone was the best experience.  Mainly because everything is 
> grouped together, and easy to get too.  1st off, you must change some 
> settings.  turn auto play off, next episode automatically starting off, and 
> mute sound when app starts should be off.  Once you do this, there are some 
> tabs at the bottom.  Home, shows, movies, and networks.  It works great, you 
> go into movies, and it lists all movies from your available channels, gives 
> you the year the movie was released, and a description of it. You can even 
> back out and go by TV show, or network.  And the best part about it is, if 
> you set your favorites on 1 device, they carry over to any device you sign 
> into.  I didn’t like the experience on iPad mini to much, the split screen 
> just confused me, but I don’t use the iPad mini every day, and someone who 
> does may understand the layout better.  I have already posted about appleTV 
> experience, so won’t repeat it here.  All in all, the experience is fine if 
> you have a little patients.  I am not disappointed.  SlingTV has some 
> thinking to do, because both there packages together, is 45 bucks, and only 
> 67 channels, with no HBO or Cina max.  Plus there feed is choppy at best.  I 
> watched direct TV now on 2 devices at the same time, and it never buffered.  
> Watched a NBA game on ESPN, and a movie on lifetime at the same time for 
> almost 2 hours.  HTH.
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[Kliphton Miller]

Okay, so I have tried this app on appleTV, iPad mini, and iPhone.  I would have 
to say the iPhone was the best experience.  Mainly because everything is 
grouped together, and easy to get too.  1st off, you must change some settings. 
 turn auto play off, next episode automatically starting off, and mute sound 
when app starts should be off.  Once you do this, there are some tabs at the 
bottom.  Home, shows, movies, and networks.  It works great, you go into 
movies, and it lists all movies from your available channels, gives you the 
year the movie was released, and a description of it. You can even back out and 
go by TV show, or network.  And the best part about it is, if you set your 
favorites on 1 device, they carry over to any device you sign into.  I didn’t 
like the experience on iPad mini to much, the split screen just confused me, 
but I don’t use the iPad mini every day, and someone who does may understand 
the layout better.  I have already posted about appleTV experience, so won’t 
repeat it here.  All in all, the experience is fine if you have a little 
patients.  I am not disappointed.  SlingTV has some thinking to do, because 
both there packages together, is 45 bucks, and only 67 channels, with no HBO or 
Cina max.  Plus there feed is choppy at best.  I watched direct TV now on 2 
devices at the same time, and it never buffered.  Watched a NBA game on ESPN, 
and a movie on lifetime at the same time for almost 2 hours.  HTH.

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Re: Identifi question

[Brett]

Wonder what the difference is then! It diffinately makes a difference for me: I 
get no rsults with the screen curtain on. 

Cheers Brett. 


> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 1:11 pm, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Having the screen curtain on has no impact on the results.
> The screen curtain doesn't effect the back facing camera.
> 
> I have done most of my pictures, including the ones set to text, with the 
> screen curtain on.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Brett
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifi question
> 
> Hi Robbert, 
> 
> I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
> foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 
> 
> Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
> launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
>> will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
>> erroneous assumptions.
>> 
>> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
>> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  
>> Please tell me the purpose of this choice.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
>> 
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Re: Identifi question

[Brett]

Hi, 

For me, I get no results when taking a photo if I have forgotten to toggle off 
screen curtain. If I toggle off screen curtain before launching the app, I get 
results every time. 

At least that's my experience, so I hope it helps others. 

Cheerst, Brett. 


Cheers Brett. 


> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 5:13 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Screen curtain makes no difference for taking photos, only makes a difference 
> for screenshots. I just confirmed this again with this app both by taking a 
> picture and by importing one, it recognized both just fine.
> 
> I am actually more and more impressed with this app. I took a picture of my 
> guide dog on his dog bed and it said "Yellow lab lying on green dog bed" 
> which was perfectly accurate.
> I then took a picture from about 8 feet away across my bed to the dresser in 
> the corner which has a few stuffed plush animals on top. It said "Brown 
> 5-tear wooden dresser with plush animals on top" I am not making this up, the 
> dresser does have 5 drawers.
> When I did a bit of a close-up of the animals it gave me the following. 
> Before I write the result I explain about the animals. Ikea has some awesome 
> and very inexpensive stuffed animals and when my wife recently spent a few 
> weeks at the hospital I bought her a few. Among others they had a yellow lab 
> both a large one which is almost 30 inches long and a small one which is 
> about 16 inches long, then they had a siberian husky also about the size of 
> the large yellow lab and an awesome moose which is in between the small and 
> large dogs, maybe 20 inches. My wife had the yellow lab on the bottom, the 
> siberian husky sitting on top, the moose was a bit off and down against the 
> wall and the little dog was behind so not visible very well. Here is what 
> iDentify gave me:
> 
> Yellow lab and siberian husky plush animals on top of wooden cabinet". Mind 
> you at that point only the top and side of the dresser were in the picture.
> When I imported a photo I had of my wife with the husky it told me it was a 
> "woman in a grey long sleeve T-Shirt with siberian husky plush toy", this 
> picture was taken weeks ago and also perfectly accurate. Now if the app had 
> told me it was a "beautiful filipina woman" it would have been too freaky 
> even though it would of course also be accurate *smile*.
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> 123qee4e4edww
> about 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifi question
> 
> Hi Robbert, 
> 
> I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
> foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 
> 
> Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
> launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 
> 
> Cheers Brett. 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
>> will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
>> erroneous assumptions.
>> 
>> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus locked 
>> unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double tapped.  
>> Please tell me the purpose of this choice.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
>> 
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RE: iDentifi and text

[Gary Bowers]

Sieghard,

Your example shows that the app really is amazing. Very impressive.

I hope your wife is doing well.

Gary in Texas

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iDentifi and text

I tried iDentifi on a letter from British Columbia Medical Services. I had 
earlier read the same letter with KNFB Reader with almost perfect accuracy. 
iDentifi was also very good, maybe not quite as good as KNFB Reader and it took 
longer for the text to be recognized, but for a free app this is very nice. The 
drawback of course is that there is no easy way to save the recognized text, 
using the 3-finger quadruple tap to copy what Voiceover spoke to the clipboard 
is OK for short passages, but this features has its limitations. I guess we'll 
see if he will add a way to save the text down the road. As somebody who also 
has KNFB Reader I doubt I will use iDentifi for doing OCR, but for people who 
don't have KNFB Reader and don't want to spend the money it is great.

Regards,
Sieghard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:43 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: iDentifi and text

If you want to save the description or text results with iDentifi, after it 
reads the description/text, do the three finger quadruple tap and you can then 
paste that in a word processing app or an eMail. I just used iDentifi on the 
back of a book in a dark room, and got amazingly good results. The same 
situation with KNFB reader got maybe 5% of the words.
Flash is set to automatic.
By the way, after hitting the first take picture button, you can use the volume 
control to take the picture, and for me, the use photo button gains focus 
automatically.

Here is what I got from the back of the book.
>From the theatre reviews of
ZALMEN, OR THE MADNESS OF GOD by Elie Wiesel Not only a bold dramatie statement 
about the repression of the Jews in the Soviet Union, but a cry of anguish 
about the collective guilt of the silent and the futility of gestures. The 
Madness of God has both an urgency and a timeless Mr.
Wiesel has said this is his last, as well as his first, play. hope he 
reconsiders that decision."
Mel Gussow, The New York Times
"Elie Wiesel infuses his theme with a frequently soaring mysticism in ideas and 
words. The beautiful p Washington "A tantalizing play, a difficult play, and 
ultimately a haunt ing play. Although it is set in Russia and deals with the 
per- sistent of the Jewish minority, its deepest concern transcends and 
politics.
David Richards. The washington Star-News stimulating and even The Madness of 
God has a heroic quality that makes the best of it very stirring.
The terrible tensions of the battle to stay alive, the tempta- tions on the one 
hand to arrant cowardice and on the other to mad' heroism, come through with 
frightening vividness.
Elliot Norton, The Boston "sheer fascination. The Madness of cod is priceless 
for its ability to induce us to grapple with crucial questions in our 
understanding of those around us.
Mike Heid, CBS Radio
  

Richard Turner

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Re: Identifi question

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
Try a three finger quadruple tap after you have heard the message. this puts 
the info into the clipboard but also speaks it out. well, this was my 
experience when I took a shot of the newspaper, which identifi read very well! 
this may be a sort of workaround for Braille keyboard/display users too! by the 
way, I was one of those people who was having no success with the app when I 
first got it, now, however, it works, but for me because our Internet is so 
slow it takes a long time for results to come back. I am very impressed with 
the quality of those results though. also, I much prefer that this is using 
technology rather than crowdsourcing. I  imagine , the app, which at the moment 
is only 7 MB, would have to be huge, were it to work off-line. but for those of 
us with the slow Internet connection, it would be marvellous! still, I am 
delighted with the app and too congratulate it's developer.

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 2 Dec 2016, at 02:16, fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, list.
> How can I have iDentifi repeat the spoken result, please?
> Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Brett  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robbert, 
>> 
>> I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
>> foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture. 
>> 
>> Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
>> launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain. 
>> 
>> Cheers Brett. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
>>> will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for making 
>>> erroneous assumptions.
>>> 
>>> After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus 
>>> locked unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double 
>>> tapped.  Please tell me the purpose of this choice.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Don Roberts
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Using paypal for iTunes and apstore?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
I thought there was a way to use paypal for iTunes and apstore purchases? The 
only billing choices I see are for credit or debit cards.
Help?


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Re: iDentifi and text

[Dave]

please change the subject line.

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew J. LaPointe

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi and text

   Hi, can you tell me what the best settings would be for the knfb reader
to scan envelopes, statements, letters ect?  Most times, I get results as,
Wa Cap C / ? and many other non understandable results.  I am sure that I am
not utilizing knfb as well as I could.  I have played with the app in the
past but, I think that how I have things set up now, is the best for now.
If I can get better settings ideas, I think the knfb reader would be used by
me much more.  Thank you, Andy and Shubert

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 12:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iDentifi and text

I tried iDentifi on a letter from British Columbia Medical Services. I had
earlier read the same letter with KNFB Reader with almost perfect accuracy.
iDentifi was also very good, maybe not quite as good as KNFB Reader and it
took longer for the text to be recognized, but for a free app this is very
nice. The drawback of course is that there is no easy way to save the
recognized text, using the 3-finger quadruple tap to copy what Voiceover
spoke to the clipboard is OK for short passages, but this features has its
limitations. I guess we'll see if he will add a way to save the text down
the road. As somebody who also has KNFB Reader I doubt I will use iDentifi
for doing OCR, but for people who don't have KNFB Reader and don't want to
spend the money it is great.

Regards,
Sieghard
Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:43 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: iDentifi and text

If you want to save the description or text results with iDentifi, after it
reads the description/text, do the three finger quadruple tap and you can
then paste that in a word processing app or an eMail. I just used iDentifi
on the back of a book in a dark room, and got amazingly good results. The
same situation with KNFB reader got maybe 5% of the words.
Flash is set to automatic.
By the way, after hitting the first take picture button, you can use the
volume control to take the picture, and for me, the use photo button gains
focus automatically.

Here is what I got from the back of the book.

From the theatre reviews of

ZALMEN, OR THE MADNESS OF GOD by Elie Wiesel Not only a bold dramatie
statement about the repression of the Jews in the Soviet Union, but a cry of
anguish about the collective guilt of the silent and the futility of
gestures. The Madness of God has both an urgency and a timeless Mr.
Wiesel has said this is his last, as well as his first, play. hope he
reconsiders that decision."
Mel Gussow, The New York Times
"Elie Wiesel infuses his theme with a frequently soaring mysticism in ideas
and words. The beautiful p Washington "A tantalizing play, a difficult play,
and ultimately a haunt ing play. Although it is set in Russia and deals with
the per- sistent of the Jewish minority, its deepest concern transcends and
politics.
David Richards. The washington Star-News stimulating and even The Madness of
God has a heroic quality that makes the best of it very stirring.
The terrible tensions of the battle to stay alive, the tempta- tions on the
one hand to arrant cowardice and on the other to mad' heroism, come through
with frightening vividness.
Elliot Norton, The Boston "sheer fascination. The Madness of cod is
priceless for its ability to induce us to grapple with crucial questions in
our understanding of those around us.
Mike Heid, CBS Radio


Richard Turner

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Re: iDentifi and text

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

   Hi, can you tell me what the best settings would be for the knfb reader 
to scan envelopes, statements, letters ect?  Most times, I get results as, 
Wa Cap C / ? and many other non understandable results.  I am sure that I am 
not utilizing knfb as well as I could.  I have played with the app in the 
past but, I think that how I have things set up now, is the best for now. 
If I can get better settings ideas, I think the knfb reader would be used by 
me much more.  Thank you, Andy and Shubert


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 12:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iDentifi and text

I tried iDentifi on a letter from British Columbia Medical Services. I had 
earlier read the same letter with KNFB Reader with almost perfect accuracy. 
iDentifi was also very good, maybe not quite as good as KNFB Reader and it 
took longer for the text to be recognized, but for a free app this is very 
nice. The drawback of course is that there is no easy way to save the 
recognized text, using the 3-finger quadruple tap to copy what Voiceover 
spoke to the clipboard is OK for short passages, but this features has its 
limitations. I guess we'll see if he will add a way to save the text down 
the road. As somebody who also has KNFB Reader I doubt I will use iDentifi 
for doing OCR, but for people who don't have KNFB Reader and don't want to 
spend the money it is great.


Regards,
Sieghard
Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:43 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: iDentifi and text

If you want to save the description or text results with iDentifi, after it 
reads the description/text, do the three finger quadruple tap and you can 
then paste that in a word processing app or an eMail. I just used iDentifi 
on the back of a book in a dark room, and got amazingly good results. The 
same situation with KNFB reader got maybe 5% of the words.

Flash is set to automatic.
By the way, after hitting the first take picture button, you can use the 
volume control to take the picture, and for me, the use photo button gains 
focus automatically.


Here is what I got from the back of the book.

From the theatre reviews of
ZALMEN, OR THE MADNESS OF GOD by Elie Wiesel Not only a bold dramatie 
statement about the repression of the Jews in the Soviet Union, but a cry of 
anguish about the collective guilt of the silent and the futility of 
gestures. The Madness of God has both an urgency and a timeless Mr.
Wiesel has said this is his last, as well as his first, play. hope he 
reconsiders that decision."

Mel Gussow, The New York Times
"Elie Wiesel infuses his theme with a frequently soaring mysticism in ideas 
and words. The beautiful p Washington "A tantalizing play, a difficult play, 
and ultimately a haunt ing play. Although it is set in Russia and deals with 
the per- sistent of the Jewish minority, its deepest concern transcends and 
politics.
David Richards. The washington Star-News stimulating and even The Madness of 
God has a heroic quality that makes the best of it very stirring.
The terrible tensions of the battle to stay alive, the tempta- tions on the 
one hand to arrant cowardice and on the other to mad' heroism, come through 
with frightening vividness.
Elliot Norton, The Boston "sheer fascination. The Madness of cod is 
priceless for its ability to induce us to grapple with crucial questions in 
our understanding of those around us.

Mike Heid, CBS Radio


Richard Turner

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Re: Accessing the keypad after Siri makes a call

[rajmund]

hi. app switcher, and look for the call. open it, and keypad should be 
there.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 02/12/2016 01:46 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

If you tell Siri to place a call, and he actually does it, then you need to 
access the keypad to deal with one of those menu systems, how do you do that? I 
have found that you can't just call up the phone app if you need to access the 
keypad, and when Siri makes a call, he doesn't automatically call that up. Is 
there a solution?
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Re: Identifi question

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- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: December 01, 2016 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: Identifi question


Screen curtain makes no difference for taking photos, only makes a 
difference for screenshots. I just confirmed this again with this app both 
by taking a picture and by importing one, it recognized both just fine.


I am actually more and more impressed with this app. I took a picture of my 
guide dog on his dog bed and it said "Yellow lab lying on green dog bed" 
which was perfectly accurate.
I then took a picture from about 8 feet away across my bed to the dresser in 
the corner which has a few stuffed plush animals on top. It said "Brown 
5-tear wooden dresser with plush animals on top" I am not making this up, 
the dresser does have 5 drawers.
When I did a bit of a close-up of the animals it gave me the following. 
Before I write the result I explain about the animals. Ikea has some awesome 
and very inexpensive stuffed animals and when my wife recently spent a few 
weeks at the hospital I bought her a few. Among others they had a yellow lab 
both a large one which is almost 30 inches long and a small one which is 
about 16 inches long, then they had a siberian husky also about the size of 
the large yellow lab and an awesome moose which is in between the small and 
large dogs, maybe 20 inches. My wife had the yellow lab on the bottom, the 
siberian husky sitting on top, the moose was a bit off and down against the 
wall and the little dog was behind so not visible very well. Here is what 
iDentify gave me:


Yellow lab and siberian husky plush animals on top of wooden cabinet". Mind 
you at that point only the top and side of the dresser were in the picture.
When I imported a photo I had of my wife with the husky it told me it was a 
"woman in a grey long sleeve T-Shirt with siberian husky plush toy", this 
picture was taken weeks ago and also perfectly accurate. Now if the app had 
told me it was a "beautiful filipina woman" it would have been too freaky 
even though it would of course also be accurate *smile*.


Take care,
Sieghard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Brett

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifi question

Hi Robbert,

I am pretty sure it adjusts the focus to highlight what is corrently in the 
foreground, presumably to correct for any movement when taking the picture.


Also for those people who aren't getting any results with this app, before 
launching the app, be sure to toggle off The screen curtain.


Cheers Brett.


On 2 Dec. 2016, at 10:18 am, Donald L. Roberts 
 wrote:


   Although the answer to this question may be obvious to some, I 
will ask anyway because I am painfully aware of the consequences for 
making erroneous assumptions.


After taking a picture,  one of the choices says something like focus 
locked unlocked.  This is a toggle and changes to locked when double 
tapped.  Please tell me the purpose of this choice.


Thanks.

Don Roberts

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