Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Elizabeth Ulrich]

I just attempted to subscribe to the list, and I received a message stating 
that the form is too old and that I needed to get it again. What does this 
mean? 


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> On May 12, 2017, at 11:40 PM, David Andrews  wrote:
> 
> There is a KNFB-Reader list, where there is lots of good info.  To join go to:
> 
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/reader-users_nfbnet.org
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 02:08 PM 5/12/2017, you wrote:
> 
>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
>> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get 
>> the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
>> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
>> HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
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RE: Question regarding Android, and Apple music

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Terri,

As long as you have your Apple Id you can certainly pay your Dollar for the 50 
Gb storage, but if you don't have any iOS devices and only an Apple TV I don't 
know why you would want iCloud storage. It is for backing up documents and 
photos to iCloud and not much else.

As for your question about Android and Apple Music you would be better off 
joining an Android list, it is not exactly on topic for an iOS list. A few 
lists were recently posted here, if you go to the archives and search for 
"Android list" I'm sure you can find it easily enough.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question regarding Android, and Apple music

Hello everyone,


As I mentioned in an earlier message, a few days ago, I am giving Android a 
shot!

I have nothing at all against Apple products. I am learning my Mac, and am 
enjoying it. Also, I will definitely keep my Apple TV.

I just wanted to give Android a chance, and see what I think of it. Who knows, 
I might end up really disliking it, and go back to the iPhone, rather soon.


But now for a few questions, regarding Apple music.


I heard, or read, that you can use Apple music on Android.

Is this true?

If so, how does this work?

I mean, how do you still pay for it?

And how do you get the Android phone, to recognize the App?

Would I still see my library?

Can I still download music, save music, and even purchase music?


I did put the App on my phone, the other day.

However, when I tried to sign in, and enter the code I got from my iPad, I kept 
being told that either my user name, or password was incorrect. I know this is 
not the case at all! I know that information, quite well.

Does anyone know what might cause this to happen?

I tried a few times, and there weren't any changes.

By the way, I would just use my iPad for Apple music. But I plan to get rid of 
it, quite soon. And I don't always want to listen to music, over my TV.


I just don't get how all this would work. Maybe this isn't the proper place to 
ask. If not, please someone point me in the right direction.


Also, I still get iCloud storage.

Will I still get this, due to having an Apple TV?

I pay a dollar for I think, 50 gigs.


Any help with any of my questions, will be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Question regarding Android, and Apple music

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


As I mentioned in an earlier message, a few days ago, I am giving 
Android a shot!

I have nothing at all against Apple products. I am learning my Mac, and 
am enjoying it. Also, I will definitely keep my Apple TV.

I just wanted to give Android a chance, and see what I think of it. Who 
knows, I might end up really disliking it, and go back to the iPhone, 
rather soon.


But now for a few questions, regarding Apple music.


I heard, or read, that you can use Apple music on Android.

Is this true?

If so, how does this work?

I mean, how do you still pay for it?

And how do you get the Android phone, to recognize the App?

Would I still see my library?

Can I still download music, save music, and even purchase music?


I did put the App on my phone, the other day.

However, when I tried to sign in, and enter the code I got from my iPad, 
I kept being told that either my user name, or password was incorrect. I 
know this is not the case at all! I know that information, quite well.

Does anyone know what might cause this to happen?

I tried a few times, and there weren't any changes.

By the way, I would just use my iPad for Apple music. But I plan to get 
rid of it, quite soon. And I don't always want to listen to music, over 
my TV.


I just don't get how all this would work. Maybe this isn't the proper 
place to ask. If not, please someone point me in the right direction.


Also, I still get iCloud storage.

Will I still get this, due to having an Apple TV?

I pay a dollar for I think, 50 gigs.


Any help with any of my questions, will be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: soundlink evolve +

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Personally I think the number of Watts is only somewhat of an indication maybe 
how powerful/loud a speaker might be, certainly in audio file equipment it 
means very little. You can buy tube amps with 25 Watts which cost $10,000 and 
here how many watts the thing has means absolutely nothing.
If you want something with lots of power/watts which apparently is very 
high-end and don’t mind spending $350 US , here is one I came across when I was 
looking for something totally different, of course as far as I can tell it 
needs to be plugged in since 440 Watts probably won’t make for good battery 
life:
https://www.peachtreeaudio.com/deepblue2.html
Here is the Amazon.com link, just noticed that despite what the company says, 
it only gets a rating of 3.7 out of 5 on Amazon with 112 ratings:
https://www.amazon.com/Peachtree-Audio-DEEPBLUE2-Bluetooth-Powered/dp/B00THKVQDO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1471311398=8-1=peachtree+audio+deepblue2

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: soundlink evolve +

Well the total watts put out figure is not generally listed in the manuals, 
Most times, you’re hard pressed to find that spec. I don’t know why most 
Bluetooth speaker companies play that game?
I know I’m old school, but I’d still like to know that particular spec on a 
speaker.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: soundlink evolve +

I will have to find out because I don't recall seeing that in the owner's guide.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Ulrich
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: RE: soundlink evolve +

Would you happen to know how many watts it throws out?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: soundlink evolve +

I am loving this speaker. It works as advertised and I noticed that when I had 
my iPod and my laptop connected via cable that I could set a separate volume 
level for each device. It also did well with calls.
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[David Andrews]

There is a KNFB-Reader list, where there is lots of good info.  To join go to:

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/reader-users_nfbnet.org

Dave

At 02:08 PM 5/12/2017, you wrote:

Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite 
some time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I 
am able to purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this 
App, I would like to know how people find this App. Is it worth the 
investment. Also, if I get the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand 
a worthwhile accessory? Are there tutorials available for KNFB 
reader? Any and all feedback will be appreciated.



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Re: Good Bible app

[Devin Prater]

Biblegateway is pretty good. The Bible app by Youversion is good also.
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"Robbie Miller"  writes:

> Hello all, I’m looking for a good bible app for my iPhone. 
>
> Thanks in advance.
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> Robbie
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Good Bible app

[Robbie Miller]

Hello all, I'm looking for a good bible app for my iPhone. 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Robbie

 

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Kanopy

[Deidre Muccio]

Is anyone using canopy through their local library or university? I've signed 
up for it and it's interesting with lots of great offerings, but not everything 
is labeled and not everywhere is accessible using voice over. For instance, if 
I play a movie and it comes to the end  Or I  want to stop in the middle I can 
do all that but to get back to a search page is impossible unless it's a page 
I've already bookmarked. In  other words getting around the site and getting 
into the main menu is impossible using voice menus. It's kind of a drag because 
it's time-consuming to do all the work arounds.
I signed up using Facebook which I had a feeling I would regret. I'm already 
receiving some kind of congratulations notice saying that I have one and iPhone 
7. It somehow linked to Facebook and it has something to do with something 
called free spin and you've got three minutes to to grab the thing and choose 
the color et Cetra. And you can't get off that page there's no close button you 
have to close Safari to get out of the damn window. What a mess that is.

Deidre

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Re: A question about the Voice dream reader

[Dana Leet]

OK on voice dream reader you want to go to where it shows headings and you can 
choose to skip headings by either paragraphs or chapters or whatever you choose 
to go through then what you do is go to where it says pause and you can swipe 
up or down on pause depending on what heading you selected to move forward or 
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Re: A question about the Voice dream reader

[Richard Turner]

If the book is marked up correctly, the chapters are probably headings.
To the right of the play button is the navigation menu.
Touch that, and flick down until it says heading, or chapter, depending on the 
book.
Then, touch the play button again.
Each flick down will now jump ahead to the next heading or chapter.
If the book has multiple heading levels, there should be an option near the top 
right when you double tap on the headings, bookmarks and highlights button that 
will allow you to adjust the heading levels shown.
HTH,
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Seeking info for Jaws ITunes scripts?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Are there any Jaws for Itunes scripts? Back in I think 2011 I used ones 
called BlindTunes which really made ITunes a breeze to use! I used 
ITunes back then with an IPod Nano 5th Generation, and I'm returning to 
the use of ITunes so I can use my iPhone 5S as an mP3 player of sorts, 
bjut I'm kind of finding ITunes kind of a hassle to use, be with Jaws or 
NVDA. If there's no Jaws scripts, are there any AddOns for NVDA to make 
ITunes a bit easier to use? Thanks for any info.



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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Richard Turner]

The second generation has square legs so they do not get out of alignment when 
you move the stand on the table as easily as with the round legs.
The cut out where you place the camera.
The microsuction tape on the top is wider and turned so it goes from that 
camera cut out toward the back so more of the phone is sitting on it so the 
phone really does not slide at all.
I was at a client's home who had just ordered it.
I wrote the creator and he said he had been working with a guy in Cleveland on 
improving the stand. He did say he may have to raise the price to $15 because 
the new legs cost more, but that he would ship for free in the United States.
Richard


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> On May 12, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Esubalew Johnston  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I have both scanning devices and K and NFB reader, what's the 
> difference between the second generation?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Liz,
>> It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether 
>> KNFB is worth the price.
>> It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
>> has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
>> recognized at once.
>> It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
>> you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
>> take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
>> If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice 
>> in stands.
>> Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
>> I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
>> I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is 
>> only $15.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like 
>>> to know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I 
>>> get the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are 
>>> there tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>>> appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> 
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A question about the Voice dream reader

[Lelia Struve]

Hi all, so here is my question I am using an iPhone 7 and have the latest 
update. What I want to know is this, if I want to go to were certain chapter 
let's say I'm at chapter 15 and I want to go to chapter 20, how do I do that? I 
looked at the help file and don't understand. Thank you in advance.

Lelia 

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Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[James Gibson]

I got it and I like it so far.

> On May 12, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Merv Keck  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> For me it is voice controlled. I don't need a phone or a computer to use it. 
> Which I do for skype and the other applications you stated. And I can use it 
> as a wireless intercom or to talk and message across the country or world 
> without picking up a phone or taking my focus away from whatever I am doing 
> on my PC.
> I just had a long conversation with the people on the Echo team at Amazon. 
> They are telling me that the new Echo show which is coming out in June will 
> require sighted assistance to set up. And because the screen is not a touch 
> screen as in a tablet but more of a display to include additional info to 
> supplement the voice interaction, there is no plans to include any text to 
> speech option on the new touch screen which is part of the new Echo show.
> I was a bit disappointed because I was looking forward to getting a pair of 
> the new shows and using the video call features. However, since I'm having so 
> much fun with the audio call and message feature on the dot, I just decided 
> to upgrade to a pair of Echoes while they are on sale at Amazon for $149 US$ 
> until tomorrow.
> For me, this message and call feature allows me to be social but still be 
> more private than skype and Zello and whatsup etc. Because I don't have to 
> join silly groups or advertise or knowing me, hide my online status while I'm 
> working.
> Merv
> 
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging
> 
> Just out of curiocity, what is the big deal with this? OK, so you can now 
> call or message other Alexa users which I assume is what is happening, but 
> then again how is this different from using Skype, Whats App, Facebook 
> Messenger or any one of a variety of voip apps?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shawn Krasniuk
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:03 PM
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging
> 
> So is it just me or are others having issues getting the call feature to work 
> properly? I have the updated Alexa app on my phone but when I go to the 
> bottom of the screen, I don't see any communication or conversation tab. I am 
> in Canada though so that could explain it. However I installed an app called 
> Flyp which lets me make a US phone number which I did but when I went on to 
> the Amazon website it didn't text me a code to change the number. Really wish 
> I knew what I could do as I know a person who lives in Australia, which they 
> claim is one of the other countries other than Canada the Echo doesn't 
> support, yet he's got his working with calls. It just makes me want to grab 
> my hair and tear it out. Lol. Very frustrated.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> James,
>> 
>> What country are you in? The Amazon Echo devices are only officially 
>> supported in the US, Germany and I can't remember if it is Australia and/or 
>> the UK. I am in Canada and officially you can't buy an Echo here and the 
>> Alexa app is not available in the canadian app store.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging
>> 
>> 
>> No, did you check the spelling?
>> It is a l e x a.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 1:08 PM, James Gibson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I could not find it is it under a different name?
>>> 
 On May 11, 2017, at 3:44 PM, James Gibson  wrote:
 
 Thank you for that information. I'm gonna try and see if I can find 
 it thank you
 
> On May 11, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> james,
> You search for an app, by entering the app name in the search field in 
> the app store.
> The app name is Alexa.
> You set it up by filling out the information it asks for.
> If that isn't enough to get you going, perhaps you need to find someone 
> who can walk you through it in person.
> Good luck,
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 11:30 AM, James Gibson  
>> wrote:

Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Esubalew Johnston]

Hi all, I have both scanning devices and K and NFB reader, what's the 
difference between the second generation?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Liz,
> It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether KNFB 
> is worth the price.
> It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
> has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
> recognized at once.
> It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
> you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
> take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
> If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice 
> in stands.
> Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
> I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
> I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is 
> only $15.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
>> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get 
>> the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
>> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>> appreciated. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Richard Turner]

anna,
TapTapSee isn't designed for text, though it is surprising some of the results 
one can get that were clearly text recognition, like who an envelope is 
addressed to.
But, But, if you are not dealing with paper scanning, and want object 
identification, it is worth the wait sometimes.
As Chip mentioned, Digit-Eyes can also be a good way to go so long as you can 
find the bar code fairly easily.
And, if the manufacturer included the package information in the barcode data, 
it can tell you a lot. However, I don't find that as often as I'd like.
I think you will be surprised how much information the Directions For Me web 
site has.
Good luck,
Richard


On May 12, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:

Thanks Richard!
TapTapSee takes forever to give a response and I’ve not even tried it for 
reading.
I’ll give Prizmo a try.
The site for directions you suggest  sounds very useful as long as it has 
enough data in its database; I look forward to try it.
Thanks again,
anna


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

No, save your money.
Have you tried TapTapSee?  It is free, and you can take a picture of an item 
and it will tell you what it is.
Then, if you need directions, go to that web site 
www.directionsforme.com and put in the product 
name and you can find all of the information that is on the package.  The web 
site is designed for people who are blind.
But, give Prizmo Go a try since you can scan things for free and see how it 
does.  It is every bit as accurate as KNFB.


HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, 

Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Richard Turner]

Liz,
It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether KNFB 
is worth the price.
It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
recognized at once.
It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice in 
stands.
Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is only 
$15.
HTH,
Richard


> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get the 
> KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
> appreciated. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope 
> HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
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apple ID, updates for Mac Mini

[regina alvarado]

I have questions that are about my Mac Mini but mostly about apple ID. If it 
shows I have 3 updates in the app store, does it mean I am logged in? I can use 
my ID and password fine on iPhone and iPad, but I cannot download updates on my 
Mac. I find a place to put in my password, but it will not write. Is there 
anyone who can help me with this, please? I thought if I was on iDevices 
everything would automatically be on the others except differences between IOS 
and OSX. I am running OSX10 and must need upgrade, maybe one of my three 
updates? Thanks so much. Email is: reggie.alvar...@gmail.com so we do not 
clutter this list with OSX stuff. 



Reggie and Lex

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Does anyone know how I can link my Twitter and Facebook accounts so I can simultaneously post to both?

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi all 

Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm hoping someone might know the answer to 
this/be able to help me. I have a Twitter and a Facebook account, and I'd like 
to be able to link the 2 so that I can simultaneously post to both. I'm using 
IOS. A friend told me that it was possible, and gave me the name of an app, 
TweetCaster, but when I downloaded it I found it terribly inaccessible with 
VoiceOver. I then tried to look up how to do it online, and managed to totally 
confuse myself with all the different methods that came up. So I was wondering 
if anyone knew/could tell me of the best way/how I can go about linking my 2 
accounts? Do I need to do it through websites?, or is there a more accessible 
app that will allow me to do so? 

Thanks for any help anyone can give. 

Eleanor

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Youtube on the iPad

[Cris Ali]

Hello folks,
I noticed lately that controlling the forward or backward on the track position 
is only fifteen second increments or decrements with each flick.  In the past 
it used to be ten percent of the length of the audio or video one is playing.  
Both are not good.  The ten percent increment/decrement was a bit too much if 
the file is one or two hours long.  The fifteen seconds is way too little.
My question is: How can I change this increment/decrement to my liking? Is 
there a Youtube setting to control this?
Regards,

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RE: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
For me it is voice controlled. I don't need a phone or a computer to use it. 
Which I do for skype and the other applications you stated. And I can use it as 
a wireless intercom or to talk and message across the country or world without 
picking up a phone or taking my focus away from whatever I am doing on my PC.
I just had a long conversation with the people on the Echo team at Amazon. They 
are telling me that the new Echo show which is coming out in June will require 
sighted assistance to set up. And because the screen is not a touch screen as 
in a tablet but more of a display to include additional info to supplement the 
voice interaction, there is no plans to include any text to speech option on 
the new touch screen which is part of the new Echo show.
I was a bit disappointed because I was looking forward to getting a pair of the 
new shows and using the video call features. However, since I'm having so much 
fun with the audio call and message feature on the dot, I just decided to 
upgrade to a pair of Echoes while they are on sale at Amazon for $149 US$ until 
tomorrow.
For me, this message and call feature allows me to be social but still be more 
private than skype and Zello and whatsup etc. Because I don't have to join 
silly groups or advertise or knowing me, hide my online status while I'm 
working.
Merv

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

Just out of curiocity, what is the big deal with this? OK, so you can now call 
or message other Alexa users which I assume is what is happening, but then 
again how is this different from using Skype, Whats App, Facebook Messenger or 
any one of a variety of voip apps?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:03 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

So is it just me or are others having issues getting the call feature to work 
properly? I have the updated Alexa app on my phone but when I go to the bottom 
of the screen, I don't see any communication or conversation tab. I am in 
Canada though so that could explain it. However I installed an app called Flyp 
which lets me make a US phone number which I did but when I went on to the 
Amazon website it didn't text me a code to change the number. Really wish I 
knew what I could do as I know a person who lives in Australia, which they 
claim is one of the other countries other than Canada the Echo doesn't support, 
yet he's got his working with calls. It just makes me want to grab my hair and 
tear it out. Lol. Very frustrated.

Shawn
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> On May 11, 2017, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> What country are you in? The Amazon Echo devices are only officially 
> supported in the US, Germany and I can't remember if it is Australia and/or 
> the UK. I am in Canada and officially you can't buy an Echo here and the 
> Alexa app is not available in the canadian app store.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging
> 
> 
> No, did you check the spelling?
> It is a l e x a.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 1:08 PM, James Gibson  wrote:
>> 
>> I could not find it is it under a different name?
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 3:44 PM, James Gibson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for that information. I'm gonna try and see if I can find 
>>> it thank you
>>> 
 On May 11, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 james,
 You search for an app, by entering the app name in the search field in the 
 app store.
 The app name is Alexa.
 You set it up by filling out the information it asks for.
 If that isn't enough to get you going, perhaps you need to find someone 
 who can walk you through it in person.
 Good luck,
 
 Richard
 
 
> On May 11, 2017, at 11:30 AM, James Gibson  
> wrote:
> 
> This is James. I need some more information on the app. How to search for 
> it in the App Store and how to set it up. Thanks!
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> The app is required but the hardware is not required. The 

KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Elizabeth Ulrich]

Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some time, 
but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to purchase 
KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to know how 
people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get the KNFB 
reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there tutorials 
available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be appreciated. 


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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you, Paula!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Anna.  Good for you for seeking advice before you put down that much money 
for an app. I don’t have much luck with boxes or bottles with KNFB reader.  I 
use either bespecular or be my eyes for those chores.  Both those apps are free 
and work well.
God bless!
Paula and Garcon

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
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>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Giller, Anna]

Thanks


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Brandt
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Are used recently to read K cups and label from a 32 ounce bottle. I turned the 
bottle around such that after several scans I came to where the directions were 
for my product. As for the cake ups, I read off of the top part, not raising 
the camera high so that could read what was on the plastic that would be 
punched through by the keurig needle later.

On May 12, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Giller, Anna 
> wrote:
Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you very much Chip!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Also, in additipon to use of OCR, you might find it more helpful to get a good 
barcode reader for bottles and boxes such as Digit-Eyes (which I think is $10), 
when it is able to read the barcode you usually get all the info you could want 
(and quite clearly).

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
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Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

[Richard Turner]

no, no built-in Dvorak keyboard.
It would be rather easy for Apple to do that. They have other keyboards that I 
know nothing about.
Richard


> On May 12, 2017, at 11:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi is there not one built into iOS? There is one if you use a hardware 
> keyboard.
> 
>> On 12 May 2017, at 06:18, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am writing to inquire if anyone has found any accessible DVORAK keyboard 
>> layout solution. I have looked, however have not been successful. I found a 
>> few keyboards on the appstore, however none of the ones I tried were 
>> accessible. Unfortunately, iOS does not have a dvorak layout. I would 
>> appreciate any advice with this.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi is there not one built into iOS? There is one if you use a hardware keyboard.

> On 12 May 2017, at 06:18, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am writing to inquire if anyone has found any accessible DVORAK keyboard 
> layout solution. I have looked, however have not been successful. I found a 
> few keyboards on the appstore, however none of the ones I tried were 
> accessible. Unfortunately, iOS does not have a dvorak layout. I would 
> appreciate any advice with this.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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RE: Introducing myself

[Connie Mohney]

Hello Nimer,
Welcome to the list. People here are very knowledgeable.  I hope you receive 
the help you are seeking.

Connie

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Nimer Jaber
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Introducing myself

Hello,

My name is Nimer Jaber. I am writing to introduce myself. I am a new iPhone 
user, and just made the switch from Android. I am used to iOS however, as I am 
a technology instructor at the Lighthouse Center for vision loss in Duluth, MN.

I am looking forward to my time on list, and to heping out as I can. I do have 
a question, but I will ask it on another thread.

Thanks.

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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Michael Feir]

Eople wanting a free OCR option should have a look at Prizmo Go. Overall, I
quite like KNFB Reader's guidance regarding taking a good picture. However,
I was out for a stroll this morning and found a sign near my building.
Thought I'd give Prizmo Go a try and it actually did a better job than KNFB
Rader on that sign. It has a different approach to explaining the
circumstance of the picture if you use its guidance to line up the best
picture possible. The end result of my efforts is that I know that there's
a $5000 fine in Mississauga for people caught feeding wild animals. It can
make them less dependant and/or more aggresive. Don't throw those bread
crumbs people. Those critters aren't $5000 worth of cute.
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:08 PM Chip Orange  wrote:

> Also, in additipon to use of OCR, you might find it more helpful to get a
> good barcode reader for bottles and boxes such as Digit-Eyes (which I think
> is $10), when it is able to read the barcode you usually get all the info
> you could want (and quite clearly).
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>
>
>
> Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.
> Also, the widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast
> makes it difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can
> work.
>
> Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and
> has good color contrast.
>
>
>
> If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the
> www.directionsforme.com web site once you identify the product.
>
>
>
> It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text
> afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
>
> If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
>
> If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
>
> Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word
> processing app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
>
> It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly
> worth trying out for free.
>
>
>
> I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item
> while the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Giller, Anna
> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>
>
>
> Hi Richard and Sandy!
>
> I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with
> print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
>
> Thank you very much
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>
>
>
> Richard,
> Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the
> latest iOS.
>
> Sandy
>
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>
> On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
> On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB
> reader and it opens fine.
>
> On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB
> Reader, it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
>
> Very odd.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Noun: trumpery
>
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
>
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
>
> This definition is from WordWeb
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
>
>
> On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:
>
> I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> --
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Michael D. Ulrich 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>
>
>
> Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the
> reader on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came
> out, that being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody
> else is having this problem too.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> > reliably for me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions as to what may be the 

Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

[Nimer Jaber]

I think the other annoyance of using a 3rd-party keyboard is that you then
lose things like dictation, and Braille Screen Input unless you switch back
to the iOS keyboard... at least that is how it seems to work for me. Is
everyone on list using the default iOS input methods? If not, what other
input methods have you tried and had success with?

Thanks.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:07 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Have you tried the one in the app store called Dvorak for all? It is free,
> and while it doesn't echo the words after you finish typing, it seems
> accessible to me.
> If you contacted the developer, he may be able to make some changes to
> make it more useful with VoiceOver.
> Here is the app store link:
> Dvorak for All by Anouk Stein, M.D.
> https://appsto.re/us/zx_t3.i
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am writing to inquire if anyone has found any accessible DVORAK
> keyboard layout solution. I have looked, however have not been successful.
> I found a few keyboards on the appstore, however none of the ones I tried
> were accessible. Unfortunately, iOS does not have a dvorak layout. I would
> appreciate any advice with this.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
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Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

[Nimer Jaber]

Hello,

I will contact the dev. I had tried it, but ran into letters/words not
speaking, sometimes letters not being typed, letters not being echoed as I
backspaced, etc... but I will give it another go, and will reach out to the
dev to see if they are willing to make some improvements.

Thanks for the suggestion.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:07 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Have you tried the one in the app store called Dvorak for all? It is free,
> and while it doesn't echo the words after you finish typing, it seems
> accessible to me.
> If you contacted the developer, he may be able to make some changes to
> make it more useful with VoiceOver.
> Here is the app store link:
> Dvorak for All by Anouk Stein, M.D.
> https://appsto.re/us/zx_t3.i
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am writing to inquire if anyone has found any accessible DVORAK
> keyboard layout solution. I have looked, however have not been successful.
> I found a few keyboards on the appstore, however none of the ones I tried
> were accessible. Unfortunately, iOS does not have a dvorak layout. I would
> appreciate any advice with this.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Chip Orange]

Also, in additipon to use of OCR, you might find it more helpful to get a good 
barcode reader for bottles and boxes such as Digit-Eyes (which I think is $10), 
when it is able to read the barcode you usually get all the info you could want 
(and quite clearly).

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.

Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

 

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the www.directionsforme.com 
web site once you identify the product.

 

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.

If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.

If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.

Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.

It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

 

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

 

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard and Sandy!

I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.

Thank you very much

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.

Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Kathy Brandt]

Are used recently to read K cups and label from a 32 ounce bottle. I turned the 
bottle around such that after several scans I came to where the directions were 
for my product. As for the cake ups, I read off of the top part, not raising 
the camera high so that could read what was on the plastic that would be 
punched through by the keurig needle later.

On May 12, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Giller, Anna  wrote:

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much
 
 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
 
Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner  wrote:

 
Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard
 

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
 
Get Outlook for iOS
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
 
Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi Anna.  Good for you for seeking advice before you put down that much money 
for an app. I don’t have much luck with boxes or bottles with KNFB reader.  I 
use either bespecular or be my eyes for those chores.  Both those apps are free 
and work well.

God bless!

Paula and Garcon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard and Sandy!

I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.

Thank you very much

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.

Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Robert Doc Wright]

I just did a test  and it worked fine. I made sure to slowly enunciate k n f b 
before saying reader.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marie 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 8:51 AM
  Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader


  On my 7 it will not start with either command?

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

  Hi Richard, same here, you just have to say “Open KNFB” and not “Open KNFB 
Reader”. I have it on my main home screen so I usually don’t use SIRI to open 
these apps since I can find them easily and quickly, but “Open KNFB” is shorter 
anyways.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

   

   

  Interesting.

  On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

  On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

  Very odd.

  Richard

   

  Noun: trumpery

  1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

  2. Ornamental objects of no great value

  This definition is from WordWeb





  (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


  On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the 
reader on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, 
that being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is 
having this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: copying music from phone to itunes for windows

[Robert Doc Wright]

dam I sent a email to Candisoft about copytoy and windows 10. When I get a 
response I will forward it to you.
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  From: Adam Morris 
  To: viPhone 
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:52 PM
  Subject: Re: copying music from phone to itunes for windows


  Hi Robert and all,

  As per your suggestion earlier this year I installed copytoy.

  Using windows 10 I wasn't ablwe to get it working.

  Wondering if others have had luck with win10?




  On 11-May-17 02:05, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Search for an PC appentitled "copytoy". It will allow you to copy from your 
iDevice to your pc.
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  From: denise avant 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 6:10 AM
  Subject: copying music from phone to itunes for windows


  Hello all,

  I have a number of Cds I ripped that are on my phone, which were from a 
previous computer. I now  have a windows machine, and want to know if there is 
a way to copy my playlists into itunes for Windows. Thanks.







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Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

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Thanks for your help I'll try that and see if I can find it.

> On May 12, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
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> James, where are you from? If you're not from the US, you won't get it. If 
> so, look for Amazon Alexa.
> 
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>> On May 12, 2017, at 9:21 AM, James Gibson  wrote:
>> 
>> If you guys have the link email the link to me that way I can click on it 
>> and download it that way. Thanks!
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's another thought. I wonder  if one has to have Wi-Fi calling enabled 
>>> to use this feature. If so, then that's probably why it's not working for 
>>> me.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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 This does work outside the US.  I talked to a friend from Australia using
 Alexa.  It really is not a huge deal.  It is yet another bit of technology
 in the tool box.  It is simply a hands free method of quick messaging and
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you, Gentlemen!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Well let me just say that we of the male persuasion; completely appreciate your 
attention to going through the hassle of trying to read cosmetic and personal 
care labels ETC, as even us blind guy’s appreciate a good looking lady Every 
now and then, OK all the time!

I can’t imagine all the hassles you gals go through! As a guy myself, I know if 
I pull any shirt and any pants out of my closet; it’ll damn sure match 
perfectly. Cosmetics? No way no how period, the end. Can’t say the same for the 
double X chromosome crowd! As they handle it with absolute grace and well 
defined character. A hats off to the ladies of the blind persuasion!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

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> on behalf of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on 

RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you very much Lynda!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi,

KNFB Reader works very well with standard text. It can be a little more 
difficult with packaging. I believe it is due to the various sizes of the print 
and fonts on most packaging. I tend to use Tap Tap See for packages more than 
KNFB Reader. Also, you can use Be My Eyes. Given the last two apps are free, if 
you think you would use KNFB to read enough standard print documents, I would 
encourage you to get the program.

Have a great day,

Lynda

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Giller, Anna]

Thanks Richard!
TapTapSee takes forever to give a response and I’ve not even tried it for 
reading.
I’ll give Prizmo a try.
The site for directions you suggest  sounds very useful as long as it has 
enough data in its database; I look forward to try it.
Thanks again,
anna


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

No, save your money.
Have you tried TapTapSee?  It is free, and you can take a picture of an item 
and it will tell you what it is.
Then, if you need directions, go to that web site 
www.directionsforme.com and put in the product 
name and you can find all of the information that is on the package.  The web 
site is designed for people who are blind.
But, give Prizmo Go a try since you can scan things for free and see how it 
does.  It is every bit as accurate as KNFB.


HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: 

RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Yeah, I agree regarding SIRI's strange behavior sometimes.  If I say to text a 
particular phone number, most of the time it works fine.  But about one out of 
ten times, she will say "You don't seem to have an app for that".  Oh well...

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Les,

Try saying “Open Tune”, that did it for me.
Definitely odd, but typical SIRI nonsense.
I still can’t believe when I sometimes ask SIRI to call a certain business like 
the Sears department store how it finds and lists all Sears stores in a 300 
mile radius but not our local one which is half a mile away from my house. The 
same goes for our British Columbia Liquor Store, it finds them in all the town 
and cities some of which are hundreds of miles away since I live in northern BC 
where towns are often far apart, but it won’t find my local BC Liquor Store 
which is a 6 minute walk from my house.
I really hope in iOS 11 SIRI will get major smarts, but then again I did hope 
that last year. Now, however, with the rumour that Apple will release an 
Echo/Google Home type speaker possibly also with a camera maybe they finally 
make SIRI a lot smarter.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

I have an iPhone 6s Plus running the latest iOS version. I cannot open tune in 
radio with Siri, no matter what I say.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

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> on behalf of 
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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
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Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[Shawn Krasniuk]

James, where are you from? If you're not from the US, you won't get it. If so, 
look for Amazon Alexa.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2017, at 9:21 AM, James Gibson  wrote:
> 
> If you guys have the link email the link to me that way I can click on it and 
> download it that way. Thanks!
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> Here's another thought. I wonder  if one has to have Wi-Fi calling enabled 
>> to use this feature. If so, then that's probably why it's not working for me.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This does work outside the US.  I talked to a friend from Australia using
>>> Alexa.  It really is not a huge deal.  It is yet another bit of technology
>>> in the tool box.  It is simply a hands free method of quick messaging and
>>> making calls.  
>>> 
>>> Liz Ulrich
>>> and LD Hope
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Marie]

On my 7 it will not start with either command?

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard, same here, you just have to say “Open KNFB” and not “Open KNFB 
Reader”. I have it on my main home screen so I usually don’t use SIRI to open 
these apps since I can find them easily and quickly, but “Open KNFB” is shorter 
anyways.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:

  I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

   

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  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

   

  Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
  > 
  > Hi all,
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
  > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
  > reliably for me.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
  > off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
  > couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
  > tedious to go start it manually.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Thanks,
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Chip
  > 
  > 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Mike Ulrich]

Well let me just say that we of the male persuasion; completely appreciate your 
attention to going through the hassle of trying to read cosmetic and personal 
care labels ETC, as even us blind guy’s appreciate a good looking lady Every 
now and then, OK all the time!

 

I can’t imagine all the hassles you gals go through! As a guy myself, I know if 
I pull any shirt and any pants out of my closet; it’ll damn sure match 
perfectly. Cosmetics? No way no how period, the end. Can’t say the same for the 
double X chromosome crowd! As they handle it with absolute grace and well 
defined character. A hats off to the ladies of the blind persuasion!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard!

I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.

The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 

Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?

Thank you very much

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.

Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

 

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the www.directionsforme.com 
web site once you identify the product.

 

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.

If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.

If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.

Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.

It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

 

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

 

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard and Sandy!

I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.

Thank you very much

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.

Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to 

RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi, 

 

KNFB Reader works very well with standard text. It can be a little more 
difficult with packaging. I believe it is due to the various sizes of the print 
and fonts on most packaging. I tend to use Tap Tap See for packages more than 
KNFB Reader. Also, you can use Be My Eyes. Given the last two apps are free, if 
you think you would use KNFB to read enough standard print documents, I would 
encourage you to get the program. 

 

Have a great day, 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard and Sandy!

I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.

Thank you very much

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.

Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Introducing myself

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welcome to the list.I have a i pad mini second-generation you will enjoy this 
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Re: Introducing myself

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Hi Nimer, I know you from the Eyes Free list. This list is great and you can 
get lots of very good information from the members here.

Welcome to IOS.
Marie


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Hello,

My name is Nimer Jaber. I am writing to introduce myself. I am a new iPhone 
user, and just made the switch from Android. I am used to iOS however, as I 
am a technology instructor at the Lighthouse Center for vision loss in 
Duluth, MN.


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Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[James Gibson]

If you guys have the link email the link to me that way I can click on it and 
download it that way. Thanks!

> On May 12, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
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> Here's another thought. I wonder  if one has to have Wi-Fi calling enabled to 
> use this feature. If so, then that's probably why it's not working for me.
> 
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>> Liz Ulrich
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Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[James Gibson]

I still cannot find the app. And I'm spelling it correctly.

> On May 12, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
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> use this feature. If so, then that's probably why it's not working for me.
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Richard Turner]

No, save your money.
Have you tried TapTapSee?  It is free, and you can take a picture of an item 
and it will tell you what it is.
Then, if you need directions, go to that web site 
www.directionsforme.com and put in the product 
name and you can find all of the information that is on the package.  The web 
site is designed for people who are blind.
But, give Prizmo Go a try since you can scan things for free and see how it 
does.  It is every bit as accurate as KNFB.


HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used 

RE: soundlink evolve +

[Mike Ulrich]

Well the total watts put out figure is not generally listed in the manuals, 
Most times, you’re hard pressed to find that spec. I don’t know why most 
Bluetooth speaker companies play that game?

I know I’m old school, but I’d still like to know that particular spec on a 
speaker.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: soundlink evolve +

 

I will have to find out because I don't recall seeing that in the owner's guide.

- Original Message - 

From: Mike Ulrich   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 12:26 PM

Subject: RE: soundlink evolve +

 

Would you happen to know how many watts it throws out?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: soundlink evolve +

 

I am loving this speaker. It works as advertised and I noticed that when I had 
my iPod and my laptop connected via cable that I could set a separate volume 
level for each device. It also did well with calls.

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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Giller, Anna]

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Vivian Conger]

Yes I'm having the same issue and I am still on 10.21 with my 5C.



Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll."
blazie.g...@gmail.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael D. Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand 
> the command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to 
> work reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a 
> folder off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass 
> through a couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so 
> it's really tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Richard Turner]

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
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Re: soundlink evolve +

[Robert Doc Wright]

I find it very accessible. In order to have Bose connect play music you must 
first start playing music from whatever app you normally use and then it 
will continue from there.  For example, I open the music app and start a 
song. I then switch to bose connect and it will show me the controls, the 
song title and the artist and album name.
- Original Message - 
From: "Deb Lewis" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: soundlink evolve +



I'm thinking about buying two of these because I want stereo
separation. Can anyone comment on the accessibility of the app. I know
some of the other Bose apps are problematic, but this one could be
better because it's not connected to music services etc. as I
understand it.

On 5/11/17, Mike Ulrich  wrote:

Would you happen to know how many watts it throws out?



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Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: soundlink evolve +



I am loving this speaker. It works as advertised and I noticed that when 
I

had my iPod and my laptop connected via cable that I could set a separate
volume level for each device. It also did well with calls.

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Re: soundlink evolve +

[Robert Doc Wright]

I will have to find out because I don't recall seeing that in the owner's guide.
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 12:26 PM
  Subject: RE: soundlink evolve +


  Would you happen to know how many watts it throws out?

   

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  I am loving this speaker. It works as advertised and I noticed that when I 
had my iPod and my laptop connected via cable that I could set a separate 
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Re: sound link evolve +

[Robert Doc Wright]

I got mine from QVC.  you can also purchase them from 
www.bose.com
 QVC offers payment plans of $49.99 and $39.99 plus tax. Each is a six month 
plan.
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  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:42 PM
  Subject: Re: sound link evolve +


  Hi where can you get this speaker and what is the battery life like?
  Also where can you go to read reviews on this speakers?



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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

[Giller, Anna]

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

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(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS

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> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich >
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
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Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Here's another thought. I wonder  if one has to have Wi-Fi calling enabled to 
use this feature. If so, then that's probably why it's not working for me.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2017, at 4:20 AM, Liz and LD Hope  
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> 
> This does work outside the US.  I talked to a friend from Australia using
> Alexa.  It really is not a huge deal.  It is yet another bit of technology
> in the tool box.  It is simply a hands free method of quick messaging and
> making calls.  
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Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

[Richard Turner]

Have you tried the one in the app store called Dvorak for all? It is free, and 
while it doesn't echo the words after you finish typing, it seems accessible to 
me.
If you contacted the developer, he may be able to make some changes to make it 
more useful with VoiceOver.
Here is the app store link:
Dvorak for All by Anouk Stein, M.D.
https://appsto.re/us/zx_t3.i

HTH,
Richard


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> On May 11, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am writing to inquire if anyone has found any accessible DVORAK keyboard 
> layout solution. I have looked, however have not been successful. I found a 
> few keyboards on the appstore, however none of the ones I tried were 
> accessible. Unfortunately, iOS does not have a dvorak layout. I would 
> appreciate any advice with this.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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RE: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[Liz and LD Hope]

This does work outside the US.  I talked to a friend from Australia using
Alexa.  It really is not a huge deal.  It is yet another bit of technology
in the tool box.  It is simply a hands free method of quick messaging and
making calls.  

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RE: sound link evolve +

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I assume this refers to the Bose Sound Link “Revolve +” not “Evolve +”. If so, 
Casey, the place to get all the information from the horse’s mouth would be the 
Bose website and the place where you are likely to see the best price and 
reviews is, as always, Amazon. Of course you can also just Google it and you’ll 
find both of those sources as well as many others.
It appears that on Amazon.com this sells for $300, get two for a stereo pair 
and it sets you back $600. Yes, it’s bluetooth and Bose boasts 16 hours of 
battery life, but the IPX4 water resistant rating is a bit poor compared to 
what the Logitech UE Boom or UE Mega offer which have the same cylindrical 
design and are in the same price category. The Bose bluetooth speakers sound 
pretty good, but I think they are a bit over rated and others sound just as 
good and have better features, a more rugged design or whatever.
If you don’t need battery and portability and you want to spend $600 get a set 
of Sonos Play 3 which as a stereo pair will blow a stereo pair of Sound Link 
Revolve + out of the water and also give you access to all the music in the 
world both free and paid. Then maybe get an inexpensive waterproof bluetooth 
speaker for enjoying a book while you have a shower or for bringing with you to 
the park or camping.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Casey
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sound link evolve +

Hi where can you get this speaker and what is the battery life like?
Also where can you go to read reviews on this speakers?



From: Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:22 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: soundlink evolve +

I am loving this speaker. It works as advertised and I noticed that when I had 
my iPod and my laptop connected via cable that I could set a separate volume 
level for each device. It also did well with calls.
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Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[mich verrier]

also to add to this I assume this only works in the us? just as almost all 
of the other features of Alexa  do? from Mich.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

Just out of curiocity, what is the big deal with this? OK, so you can now 
call or message other Alexa users which I assume is what is happening, but 
then again how is this different from using Skype, Whats App, Facebook 
Messenger or any one of a variety of voip apps?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Shawn Krasniuk

Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:03 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

So is it just me or are others having issues getting the call feature to 
work properly? I have the updated Alexa app on my phone but when I go to the 
bottom of the screen, I don't see any communication or conversation tab. I 
am in Canada though so that could explain it. However I installed an app 
called Flyp which lets me make a US phone number which I did but when I went 
on to the Amazon website it didn't text me a code to change the number. 
Really wish I knew what I could do as I know a person who lives in 
Australia, which they claim is one of the other countries other than Canada 
the Echo doesn't support, yet he's got his working with calls. It just makes 
me want to grab my hair and tear it out. Lol. Very frustrated.


Shawn
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On May 11, 2017, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

James,

What country are you in? The Amazon Echo devices are only officially 
supported in the US, Germany and I can't remember if it is Australia 
and/or the UK. I am in Canada and officially you can't buy an Echo here 
and the Alexa app is not available in the canadian app store.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging


No, did you check the spelling?
It is a l e x a.

Richard


On May 11, 2017, at 1:08 PM, James Gibson  
wrote:


I could not find it is it under a different name?

On May 11, 2017, at 3:44 PM, James Gibson  
wrote:


Thank you for that information. I'm gonna try and see if I can find
it thank you

On May 11, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


james,
You search for an app, by entering the app name in the search field in 
the app store.

The app name is Alexa.
You set it up by filling out the information it asks for.
If that isn't enough to get you going, perhaps you need to find someone 
who can walk you through it in person.

Good luck,

Richard


On May 11, 2017, at 11:30 AM, James Gibson  
wrote:


This is James. I need some more information on the app. How to search 
for it in the App Store and how to set it up. Thanks!



On May 11, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

The app is required but the hardware is not required. The Show is
not available until June so we won't know how accessible that
will be. It has better speakers, and htat's about all I think
it's good for unless you can look at a 7" screen. Some have
commented about difficulty with setting up the app. It's hard even 
with Voiceover off, very sluggish.

But I found that if you totally restart the phone you'll be able
to click on the links with VO. Just interact slowly with it
because it's extremely sluggish at best. Otherwise, what a fun 
feature this is.



On 5/11/17, Lea W Langley  wrote:
Hi Steve,
It's Wren. It works if each person has the Alexa app set up on their 
phone.

Hope you're doing well. And I hope this didn't go to the list.
If it did I apologize to all.
Thank you and God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Steve Sweeney  
wrote:


Hi,
Does it work only with people who are also using the app?
Thx -Steve


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Liz and LD Hope
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

I set this feature up when my Alexa App was updated the other
day.  I have tried out the messaging feature, and it is pretty
cool.  I did a test call, and that works well.

Liz Ulrich
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RE: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just out of curiocity, what is the big deal with this? OK, so you can now call 
or message other Alexa users which I assume is what is happening, but then 
again how is this different from using Skype, Whats App, Facebook Messenger or 
any one of a variety of voip apps?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:03 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging

So is it just me or are others having issues getting the call feature to work 
properly? I have the updated Alexa app on my phone but when I go to the bottom 
of the screen, I don't see any communication or conversation tab. I am in 
Canada though so that could explain it. However I installed an app called Flyp 
which lets me make a US phone number which I did but when I went on to the 
Amazon website it didn't text me a code to change the number. Really wish I 
knew what I could do as I know a person who lives in Australia, which they 
claim is one of the other countries other than Canada the Echo doesn't support, 
yet he's got his working with calls. It just makes me want to grab my hair and 
tear it out. Lol. Very frustrated.

Shawn
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> On May 11, 2017, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> What country are you in? The Amazon Echo devices are only officially 
> supported in the US, Germany and I can't remember if it is Australia and/or 
> the UK. I am in Canada and officially you can't buy an Echo here and the 
> Alexa app is not available in the canadian app store.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging
> 
> 
> No, did you check the spelling?
> It is a l e x a.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 1:08 PM, James Gibson  wrote:
>> 
>> I could not find it is it under a different name?
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 3:44 PM, James Gibson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for that information. I'm gonna try and see if I can find 
>>> it thank you
>>> 
 On May 11, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 james,
 You search for an app, by entering the app name in the search field in the 
 app store.
 The app name is Alexa.
 You set it up by filling out the information it asks for.
 If that isn't enough to get you going, perhaps you need to find someone 
 who can walk you through it in person.
 Good luck,
 
 Richard
 
 
> On May 11, 2017, at 11:30 AM, James Gibson  
> wrote:
> 
> This is James. I need some more information on the app. How to search for 
> it in the App Store and how to set it up. Thanks!
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> The app is required but the hardware is not required. The Show is 
>> not available until June so we won't know how accessible that 
>> will be. It has better speakers, and htat's about all I think 
>> it's good for unless you can look at a 7" screen. Some have 
>> commented about difficulty with setting up the app. It's hard even with 
>> Voiceover off, very sluggish.
>> But I found that if you totally restart the phone you'll be able 
>> to click on the links with VO. Just interact slowly with it 
>> because it's extremely sluggish at best. Otherwise, what a fun feature 
>> this is.
>> 
>>> On 5/11/17, Lea W Langley  wrote:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> It's Wren. It works if each person has the Alexa app set up on their 
>>> phone.
>>> Hope you're doing well. And I hope this didn't go to the list. 
>>> If it did I apologize to all.
>>> Thank you and God bless,
>>> Wren Langley
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 11, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Does it work only with people who are also using the app?
 Thx -Steve
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Liz and LD Hope
 Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:05 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Introducing Alexa calling and messaging
 
 I set this feature up when my Alexa App was updated the other 
 day.  I have tried out the messaging feature, and it is pretty 
 cool.  I did a test call, and that works well.

Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting.
> On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
> reader and it opens fine.
> On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
> it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
> Very odd.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
> 
> On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali  wrote:
> 
>> I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>> Michael D. Ulrich 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>>  
>> Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the 
>> reader on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came 
>> out, that being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody 
>> else is having this problem too.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi all,
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
>> > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
>> > reliably for me.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
>> > off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
>> > couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
>> > tedious to go start it manually.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Chip
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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