A century ago, the first Technicolor film was a total disaster - CNET

2017-09-09 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Everyone,  

I am posting the following as a technology-based historical point of
interest, only.

Mark 

CNET News - Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 5:00 AM
A century ago, the first Technicolor film was a total disaster - CNET
A hundred years ago, a group of scientists and silent movie stars stepped
out of a railroad car into the Florida sunshine to shoot America's first
feature-length color motion picture.
That Technicolor production, "The Gulf Between," a romantic comedy now
considered a lost film, premiered on Sept. 13, 1917. But it was a long, long
way from sumptuously colorful classics like 1939's "Gone with the Wind" and
1952's "Singin' in the Rain" that will forever be synonymous with
Hollywood's golden age. Instead, some critics slammed the film for red and
green flashes and random objects showing up too bright. 
"The Gulf Between" was "meant to be a proof-of-concept," says Kelsey Eckert,
a Technicolor project archivist at Rochester, New York's George Eastman
Museum, home to some of the oldest surviving photography and film materials.
"They wanted a film they could show to investors and bigwigs in New York to
prove this whole Technicolor experiment was commercially viable. And it
wasn't."
The failures of the first Technicolor film teach some obvious lessons to
anyone looking to bring new technology to the big screen. Like today's 3D
pictures, "The Gulf Between," running about 58 minutes, was expensive and
hard on the eyes. And like today's 3D flicks -- which some call a gimmick
designed to make audiences forget they paid extra for a darker, less
brilliant version of a film -- it was a critical and artistic flop. A
commercial one, too. 
But the creators of Technicolor persevered. 
"The men and women of Technicolor tried and failed over and again --
Technicolor 1 is radically different than Technicolor 4 -- and even after
'succeeding' they never stopped tweaking and perfecting," says Ken Fox, also
a project archivist at the George Eastman Museum. "This quixotic
determination to succeed against what, at the beginning especially, must
have seemed like impossible odds, can serve as an important lesson for
filmmakers and tech developers alike." 
In living color
Technicolor brought a vibrant, highly saturated palette to motion pictures
that sometimes bathed them in hyperrealism. But the first Technicolor
offering wasn't the first color seen by moviegoing audiences. Even in the
earliest days of cinema, motion picture pioneers Thomas Edison and George
Méliès had some of their films hand-painted. The first system that captured
natural color on film was Kinemacolor, which caused a sensation in Britain
in 1908. Kinemacolor imploded amid patent disputes, but not before an
intrigued American engineer named Herbert Kalmus brought a fragment of
Kinemacolor film back to the US.
Herbert T. Kalmus, president and co-founder of Technicolor.
Bettmann 
Kalmus showed the film to his business partners Daniel Frost Comstock and W.
Burton Wescott. Kalmus and Wescott met at MIT, and had only a passing
interest in cinema as an art form. They were more interested in the
technical challenges -- and the moneymaking opportunities.
The three men founded the Technicolor Motion Picture Corporation in 1915.
Comstock was the inventor, Wescott turned ideas into products and Kalmus
served as the businessman.
To create a color film that did away with the fringing and flicker that
plagued existing color systems, the Technicolor team had to innovate all the
way from the treatment of the film to the design of the camera and
projector.
Their first Technicolor process involved shooting on black and white film
through a special beam-splitting prism and red and green filters. To play
the film back, the system was essentially reversed, with a special projector
that contained its own red and green filters. Like Kinemacolor, this was
known as an "additive" color system. 
The first tests made the Technicolor boys optimistic. Comstock and a team of
engineers headed to Palm Beach, Florida, where natural light and colorful
environments abounded. The resulting footage of sunsets, sailboats and fancy
women's outfits delighted the engineers -- and their investors.
The next step: a feature film that could be shown to a mass audience. The
plot of "The Gulf Between" is perhaps less notable than the innovation going
on behind the scenes. Based on the story "The Little Skipper" by Anthony
Kelly, it told of a young girl lost at sea and brought up by the family of a
smuggler. Later, she falls in love with a wealthy boy, only for his parents
to keep them apart until she rediscovers her own family.
The melodrama was "very typical of the kind of films of the time," Fox says.
"I think [Technicolor] really hoped they had a hit on their hands. But it
was the technical difficulties that undid them."
Lights, camera … accident
Technicolor's seasoned production manager, Carl Alfred "Doc" Willatt,
brought in a relatively inexperienced -- and therefore easily

RE: Accessible TV Apps

2017-09-09 Thread Larry Lumpkin 
I use the spectrum app on the Roku platform on a new roku television I just 
bought which is accessible.  The app works well as far as I can tell.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible TV Apps

Hello everyone,


I realize we have discussed this somewhat, before. But I wanted to ask some 
questions, because I am considering giving up my cable. But I want it to be 
worth it, if I do this.


Right now I have Spectrum, and there is a huge problem with the narrative 
guide. It's been this way for a while now, and nobody knows when, or it will be 
fixed.

With the silver package, which does include, HBO, Sinamax, and Show Time, I pay 
around 130. But this includes phone service I don't even use, just got it so I 
could get the promotion.

It includes, the internet, and of course the cable.


I would like to find something quite accessible, and I'd like it to get a few 
channels I really like.


I tried the Directv Now App when it first came out. I luckily only took 
the trial. I found it more easier to use than Sling TV. But then in some 
other ways, it was a bit more confusing.


I really want to see what happens once Youtube TV is released in Saint 
Louis. I hope this is done sooner than later! And I hope it's accessible.


I have a Roku. Right now I use my Spectrum App on that, and I love it!

Whatever I use, I want on-demand. If I have to use an Antenna for local 
channels, that's fine. Not thrilled, but something I can live with.


So what are my options?

I have a Roku I can use, along with my iPad. I have my phone as well. 
But I don't care to put my phone on do not disturb, and such.


Any thoughts, ideas, and suggestions will be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Accessible TV Apps

2017-09-09 Thread Terri Stimmel 
Hello everyone,


I realize we have discussed this somewhat, before. But I wanted to ask 
some questions, because I am considering giving up my cable. But I want 
it to be worth it, if I do this.


Right now I have Spectrum, and there is a huge problem with the 
narrative guide. It's been this way for a while now, and nobody knows 
when, or it will be fixed.

With the silver package, which does include, HBO, Sinamax, and Show 
Time, I pay around 130. But this includes phone service I don't even 
use, just got it so I could get the promotion.

It includes, the internet, and of course the cable.


I would like to find something quite accessible, and I'd like it to get 
a few channels I really like.


I tried the Directv Now App when it first came out. I luckily only took 
the trial. I found it more easier to use than Sling TV. But then in some 
other ways, it was a bit more confusing.


I really want to see what happens once Youtube TV is released in Saint 
Louis. I hope this is done sooner than later! And I hope it's accessible.


I have a Roku. Right now I use my Spectrum App on that, and I love it!

Whatever I use, I want on-demand. If I have to use an Antenna for local 
channels, that's fine. Not thrilled, but something I can live with.


So what are my options?

I have a Roku I can use, along with my iPad. I have my phone as well. 
But I don't care to put my phone on do not disturb, and such.


Any thoughts, ideas, and suggestions will be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Latest Hulu Update

2017-09-09 Thread Lisa Belville 
Hi.  Here's what I submitted as my review for Hulu.  It looks like many of 
their users are dissatisfied, so a fix could be in the works.  How long does 
it take for a review, even a bad one to show up in the app store?


I would have used the zero rating, but wanted to be nice.  I am a blind user
and I use Voice Over to navigate my iPhone.  I've been able to use Hulu for
over two years without difficulty.  However, this 5.6 and 5.6.1 update has
broken this access and the app is now unusable.  My automatic renewal has
already happened for September, but I'm going to cancel my subscription if
this issue isn't fixed.  Judging from the other reviews, even your sighted
customers are not happy with this update.  And yes, blind folks like a good
movie or TV show just as much as everyone else.  I mostly like browsing the
older shows and movies, but some of the new ones are good, too.  Please fix
this ASAP so I can go back to my old shows.  Go to https://www.applevis.com/
for more info about Voiceover and how to make apps work for all.


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and 
procrastinate all at once.
- Original Message - 
From: "Candy Lowe" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update


Lisa, you're correct. There was a time when it didn't work too well, but I 
did have some workarounds. This time it appears totally inaccessible as from 
what I can see. I won't get rid of it today. I will wait maybe for another 
update. Let me know if they answer your email about making it accessible.

Candy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:


Yes, same here.  I guess that's an extra $8.49 I can put toward more 
accessible apps.  ,sigh>


I'm going to try to write to them first to at least see if they're 
interested in making it work.  If I remember correctly, it started working 
after one of the updates in the 4.X build, but I don't think they put any 
extra voice over access into it.





Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and 
procrastinate all at once.

- Original Message - From: "Candy Lowe" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update


Lisa, I am so disappointed. I had updated the app but had not looked at 
it. It appears to be totally in accessible.
instead of having a Watch list you now have my stuff. Anything you tap on 
you can't read any of the results. I am really thinking about canceling it 
I have had it for at least five years and had no problems up until now.
I hadn't used it for a while because I mainly use it with the new shows. 
Everything was re runs so I just was waiting until the new season. Oh 
well.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:


Hi, all.

I'm using an iPhone SE with iOS 10.3.3 and the latest version of Hulu 
issued Wednesday.  This is version 5.6.  Since updating this app I can't 
get past the first screen.  It tells me to swipe to get started, and then 
there are four pages which I can move to, but I can't get any additional 
info about the app or it's programming.  I've been a hulu subscriber for 
a while, and their recent offerings have been fine as far as 
accessibility goes.  I'm wondering if there's a workaround, such as 
turning VO off and tapping on something to get past this introductory 
screen.  I can't tell if there's something even on the screen, but I'm 
assuming there is something but VO can only read that small part of it.


TIA for the help/info.

Lisa



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Re: Latest Hulu Update

2017-09-09 Thread Lisa Belville 
The answer to that is they don't think of blind people when designing an app 
made to access TV and movies.  Most people don't think we enjoy visual 
entertainment, so I'm not surprised.



Lisa Belville
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Ulrich" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 4:55 AM
Subject: RE: Latest Hulu Update


You know, I can never figure that out! Why do companies that want us blinks 
to spend our money with them, and originally put out a good accessible app, 
all of a sudden an update comes out and bingo; no more accessibility!
I can think of many stores, shops and service providers; with garbage apps, 
and some with garbage websites!




Michael D. Ulrich
Just an ordinary average blind guy!
Florida Council of the Blind
Fundraising Committee Member
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Saturday March 19, 2018!
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Of Liz Ulrich and LD Hope

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update

I just called HuLu customer support and talked to a very nice person who 
totally understood and agreed with my complaints. I wrote a negative review 
in the App store. I hope that the complaints from blind and sighted users 
will make an impact, but in the meantime the app sucks. I will wait for a 
couple of weeks to see if they update the app and improve it, and if not, I 
will cancel my account.



Sent from my iPhone
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1


On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:

Lisa, you're correct. There was a time when it didn't work too well, but I 
did have some workarounds. This time it appears totally inaccessible as 
from what I can see. I won't get rid of it today. I will wait maybe for 
another update. Let me know if they answer your email about making it 
accessible.

Candy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:


Yes, same here.  I guess that's an extra $8.49 I can put toward more 
accessible apps.  ,sigh>


I'm going to try to write to them first to at least see if they're 
interested in making it work.  If I remember correctly, it started 
working after one of the updates in the 4.X build, but I don't think they 
put any extra voice over access into it.





Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and 
procrastinate all at once.

- Original Message - From: "Candy Lowe" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update


Lisa, I am so disappointed. I had updated the app but had not looked at 
it. It appears to be totally in accessible.
instead of having a Watch list you now have my stuff. Anything you tap on 
you can't read any of the results. I am really thinking about canceling 
it. I have had it for at least five years and had no problems up until 
now.
I hadn't used it for a while because I mainly use it with the new shows. 
Everything was re runs so I just was waiting until the new season. Oh 
well.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:


Hi, all.

I'm using an iPhone SE with iOS 10.3.3 and the latest version of Hulu 
issued Wednesday.  This is version 5.6.  Since updating this app I can't 
get past the first screen.  It tells me to swipe to get started, and 
then there are four pages which I can move to, but I can't get any 
additional info about the app or it's programming.  I've been a hulu 
subscriber for a while, and their recent offerings have been fine as far 
as accessibility goes.  I'm wondering if there's a workaround, such as 
turning VO off and tapping on something to get past this introductory 
screen.  I can't tell if there's something even on the screen, but I'm 
assuming there is something but VO can only read that small part of it.


TIA for the help/info.

Lisa



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RE: Adding folder to voice dream to move files into?

2017-09-09 Thread Richard Turner 
When you have voice Dream open, double tap on "filter"
Then, flick right to "by folder" and double tap.
Then, double tap on the add button in the upper left.
You will find a text field to enter your desired folder name.
After you enter the name you want, flick right to OK and double tap.
HTH,
Richard
 

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How do i creat a folder in voice dream?

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Adding folder to voice dream to move files into?

2017-09-09 Thread Melissa Tucker 
How do i creat a folder in voice dream?

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RE: Contacting Uber?

2017-09-09 Thread Jeff Clark 
Hello,

I get around the submit button issue by using my Bluetooth keyboard. This works 
fine.

Jeff

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Thompson
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Contacting Uber?

 

Hello, unfortunately, even if you do try to email them, or send them a message 
in the app, unless you have some sight, you can no longer submit your message. 
For about the last 10 months, I have had this issue. Basically, before you 
start writing out your message, the submit button is there. However, once your 
message is complete, the only way the text can be submitted, is if a sighted 
person turns off voiceover, and hits the submit button. Unfortunately, I'm not 
sure if there is a way to email them, if you aren't either using the help 
section, or using one of your previous trips, and then you can only email or 
write about specific things. You could try going through Facebook, and either 
leaving a message on their Facebook page, or through Facebook messenger. That 
is the only option I can think of at this time.

KbtSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Kathy Brandt  > wrote:

 


On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Jim Portillo  > wrote:

Good morning,

 

I’m wondering if anyone knows how one can directly contact Uber via email.  I 
use the Uber app on my iPhone all the time!  I keep being told that by going to 
the help section in the app or website that I can contact them that way or get 
my questions answered.  I’ve been going through all of the sections since 
yesterday and can’t seem to find what I’m seeking.  The help section is great 
for general questions, but my question is specific that needs a specific answer.

I know I used to be able to email them before, but I can’t remember how or 
where this is done.  If anyone can help me with specifics, that would be 
fantastic!

Thanks much.

Jim

 

 

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can't just emailed him anymore; I've written to them about this. You can only 
email if they have sent an email to you. It takes some doing, but within the 
help app, you have to go some place and hijack a topic that would have an edit 
box. I have written to them about this too. What you write can only be so long, 
because if it goes beyond whatever the length it is that they allow, you can't 
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Re: Screen Locked

2017-09-09 Thread William James 
I actually prefer not to have the sounds on. They are extremely nerve-racking 
to me. I have never had them on my computer, so why should I have them on my 
phone?

Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus

> On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> Well we certainly appreciate the straight forward instructions. We will see 
> what sounds we miss over the next few days and evaluate from there!
>  
> Thanks again to all.
>  
> Reg
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen Locked
>  
> The reason for my having Sounds turned off was I was using my Braille display 
> to read a book and didn't want to hear the clicks when I advanced to the next 
> line.  I guess Apple felt that if Sounds was turned off, it would be able to 
> verbalize whether or not the screen was locked.  It didn't matter to me 
> because when I do have the Sounds turned on, I'd rather hear that tone than 
> the voice telling me that the screen was locked.  Anyway, to each his own, I 
> guess.
>  
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Kind of a choice between a rock and a hard place, I certainly would not want 
> to have no sound effects at all  just to hear “screen locked”.
> It will be interesting to see if Apple gives users more control over this in 
> iOS 11, either take the “screen locked” message away completely and replace 
> it with a more unique sound or let people decide if they want to hear the 
> message but not at the expense of loosing all other sounds.
> In a way this is a trivial thing and I wonder who the heck at Apple has 
> nothing better to do than to come up with these things which of course also 
> take time to implement where they could spend that time fixing more important 
> issues.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroupscom
> Subject: Re: Screen Locked
>  
> in order to not hear the beep, you would need to turn sounds off in settings. 
> I heard the screen locked notification verbally when sounds were turned off. 
> I hope this helps. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> On Sep 8, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> You would probably have to go back to iOS 9, which you cannot.
> I think that disappeared somewhere in iOS 10.
> Maybe someone knows different, but I am fine with the sound.
> Richard
>  
> 
> On Sep 8, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> I have an Iphone 6S with up to date software. Wondering what I need to change 
> in order to have voice over speak “screen Locked” instead of an audible beep.
>  
> Regards….Reg
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RE: app that automatically gives weather info for current location

2017-09-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
The native app should look at your location, just make sure you have location 
services turned on in Settings > Privacy and that the weather app is allowed to 
access location.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
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Subject: app that automatically gives weather info for current location

Hello list
Is there an app which picks up one’s location and shows weather info. It seems 
that the native iPhone weather app requires that a location be given or is 
there a setting for auto?
Regards
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RE: Latest Hulu Update

2017-09-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I am in Canada where Hulu is not available, but I can definitely recommend 
contacting the company directly and via social media, if a couple of dozen 
people twee them and post on Facebook how accessibility for the visually 
impaired is now broken it will probably most effective. We all have seen 
examples of how powerful social media can be.
As for the question how sometimes companies who have an accessible app at first 
later on release an update which breaks accessibility there is only one answer: 
these companies do not understand or care about accessibility. One great 
example where a company has understood accessibility and continues to 
understand it is Sonos. When I first bought some Sonos players (that is Sonos, 
the multi-room wireless music system) the app was useable, but far from fully 
accessible with lots of unlabelled buttons and some areas which didn't work for 
a blind user. Sonos is also a great example for what can happen if people are 
persistent in lobbying for better accessibility. I hounded them pretty 
relentlessly, but was by no means the only one and certainly don't claim I'm 
responsible for their change in attitude. In any case, I bought my first Sonos 
stuff in 2009 and I think it was in 2012 (hard to believe it's been 5 years) 
Sonos suddenly reached out to me and some of the others who requested 
improvements in accessibility to beta test a new version with Voiceover 
improvements. I have been beta testing Sonos ever since and inside a very short 
time the app was made fully accessible and all the many updates maintained that 
high standard of accessibility. At one point a feature called "TruePlay" which 
allows you to use your iPhones microphone to "tune" the sound of certain Sonos 
players was not accessible, but that was relatively short lived and it also was 
made accessible.
Hopefully some dedicated people will find ways to contact Hulu which will 
matter, calling their support line is of course fine, but in my experience is 
probably one of the least effective ways to communicate these issues because 
most companies are outsourcing their customer support to call centres in th 
Philippines, India and other countries and these call centre agents at best can 
log these calls, but I sometimes doubt they ever find their way to the people 
who are really in charge of what needs to be improved. As Mark Taylor has 
sometimes pointed out, it can still be very effective to try and find out who 
the CEO is and to find out the address of their HQ and to then write a good old 
fashioned letter and spend a few Dollars to mail it as a double registered 
letter which means somebody at the company has to sign for it.
In the case of Sonos who still has phone support in the US at their main office 
I called so often until somebody passed me on to a supervisor who ended up 
giving me the direct email of the person in charge of app development. I 
communicated with that guy a fair bit over the years and only if you manage to 
reach out to people higher up you will really accomplish something. This of 
course means that you need to be professional, friendly, objective and 
persistent. If you go on a rant about how it should be a given that the app 
should be accessibility and you threaten with a law suit or something like that 
you are not likely to be taken seriously and of course few of us can afford to 
hire a lawyer and really go that route which these companies of course know.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 4:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update

I am sure they will fix it, they usually do.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Ulrich
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest Hulu Update

You know, I can never figure that out! Why do companies that want us blinks to 
spend our money with them, and originally put out a good accessible app, all of 
a sudden an update comes out and bingo; no more accessibility!
I can think of many stores, shops and service providers; with garbage apps, and 
some with garbage websites!



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Liz Ulrich and LD Hope
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update

I just called HuLu customer support and talked to a very nice person who 
totally understood and agreed with my complaints. I wrote a negative review in 
the

app that automatically gives weather info for current location

2017-09-09 Thread Fanus 
Hello list
Is there an app which picks up one’s location and shows weather info. It seems 
that the native iPhone weather app requires that a location be given or is 
there a setting for auto?
Regards
Fanus

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Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

2017-09-09 Thread Jan Kleinhans 
Hi

It does indeed have notifications for all the possible cities you can select 
within the app.  You need to set the city as a favourite and then turn on 
whatever notifications you want to receive for your city.  The developer lives 
in Europe, so I'm sure it should work for cities in Europe.

Jan Kleinhans

  - Original Message - 
  From: Davy Cuppens 
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  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 12:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?


  Could it be that Weather Gods has no coverage for Europe? I used the app some 
months ago without any notification or weather alerts.

  From: Feliciano Godoy 
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 3:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

  Hi, 
  I'm not the original poster, but I I just purchased the app. I currently use 
dark sky  and enjoying it because of the push notifications. So far, I have set 
the notifications that I want to have on the weather gods app. 
  Initial impression, I like the user interface. .

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  On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:


Hello all, 

You could try the weather app “Weather Gods”

You can set many different locations and save alerts for all of them.

App Store link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/weather-gods/id1041512978?mt=8

The applications developer is very accessibility orientated, and has made 
every feature accessible to VoiceOver users.

Ed
  On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

  Hi all.
  While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends 
who are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to 
track a storm? 
  Thanks.
  Jen


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RE: Screen Locked

2017-09-09 Thread Reg Sullivan 
Well we certainly appreciate the straight forward instructions. We will see 
what sounds we miss over the next few days and evaluate from there!

 

Thanks again to all.

 

Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Locked

 

The reason for my having Sounds turned off was I was using my Braille display 
to read a book and didn't want to hear the clicks when I advanced to the next 
line.  I guess Apple felt that if Sounds was turned off, it would be able to 
verbalize whether or not the screen was locked.  It didn't matter to me because 
when I do have the Sounds turned on, I'd rather hear that tone than the voice 
telling me that the screen was locked.  Anyway, to each his own, I guess.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

Kind of a choice between a rock and a hard place, I certainly would not want to 
have no sound effects at all  just to hear “screen locked”.

It will be interesting to see if Apple gives users more control over this in 
iOS 11, either take the “screen locked” message away completely and replace it 
with a more unique sound or let people decide if they want to hear the message 
but not at the expense of loosing all other sounds.

In a way this is a trivial thing and I wonder who the heck at Apple has nothing 
better to do than to come up with these things which of course also take time 
to implement where they could spend that time fixing more important issues.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Subject: Re: Screen Locked

 

in order to not hear the beep, you would need to turn sounds off in settings. I 
heard the screen locked notification verbally when sounds were turned off. I 
hope this helps. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 8, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Richard Turner  > wrote:

 

You would probably have to go back to iOS 9, which you cannot.

I think that disappeared somewhere in iOS 10.

Maybe someone knows different, but I am fine with the sound.

Richard

 


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I have an Iphone 6S with up to date software. Wondering what I need to change 
in order to have voice over speak “screen Locked” instead of an audible beep.

 

Regards….Reg

 

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Re: Latest Hulu Update

2017-09-09 Thread MamaPeach 

I am sure they will fix it, they usually do.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest Hulu Update

You know, I can never figure that out! Why do companies that want us blinks 
to spend our money with them, and originally put out a good accessible app, 
all of a sudden an update comes out and bingo; no more accessibility!
I can think of many stores, shops and service providers; with garbage apps, 
and some with garbage websites!




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Of Liz Ulrich and LD Hope

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update

I just called HuLu customer support and talked to a very nice person who 
totally understood and agreed with my complaints. I wrote a negative review 
in the App store. I hope that the complaints from blind and sighted users 
will make an impact, but in the meantime the app sucks. I will wait for a 
couple of weeks to see if they update the app and improve it, and if not, I 
will cancel my account.



Sent from my iPhone
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On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:

Lisa, you're correct. There was a time when it didn't work too well, but I 
did have some workarounds. This time it appears totally inaccessible as 
from what I can see. I won't get rid of it today. I will wait maybe for 
another update. Let me know if they answer your email about making it 
accessible.

Candy

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:


Yes, same here.  I guess that's an extra $8.49 I can put toward more 
accessible apps.  ,sigh>


I'm going to try to write to them first to at least see if they're 
interested in making it work.  If I remember correctly, it started 
working after one of the updates in the 4.X build, but I don't think they 
put any extra voice over access into it.





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procrastinate all at once.

- Original Message - From: "Candy Lowe" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update


Lisa, I am so disappointed. I had updated the app but had not looked at 
it. It appears to be totally in accessible.
instead of having a Watch list you now have my stuff. Anything you tap on 
you can't read any of the results. I am really thinking about canceling 
it. I have had it for at least five years and had no problems up until 
now.
I hadn't used it for a while because I mainly use it with the new shows. 
Everything was re runs so I just was waiting until the new season. Oh 
well.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:


Hi, all.

I'm using an iPhone SE with iOS 10.3.3 and the latest version of Hulu 
issued Wednesday.  This is version 5.6.  Since updating this app I can't 
get past the first screen.  It tells me to swipe to get started, and 
then there are four pages which I can move to, but I can't get any 
additional info about the app or it's programming.  I've been a hulu 
subscriber for a while, and their recent offerings have been fine as far 
as accessibility goes.  I'm wondering if there's a workaround, such as 
turning VO off and tapping on something to get past this introductory 
screen.  I can't tell if there's something even on the screen, but I'm 
assuming there is something but VO can only read that small part of it.


TIA for the help/info.

Lisa



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Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

2017-09-09 Thread Davy Cuppens 
Could it be that Weather Gods has no coverage for Europe? I used the app some 
months ago without any notification or weather alerts.

From: Feliciano Godoy 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

Hi, 
I'm not the original poster, but I I just purchased the app. I currently use 
dark sky  and enjoying it because of the push notifications. So far, I have set 
the notifications that I want to have on the weather gods app. 
Initial impression, I like the user interface. .

Regards, 
Feliciano 
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On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:


  Hello all, 

  You could try the weather app “Weather Gods”

  You can set many different locations and save alerts for all of them.

  App Store link:
  https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/weather-gods/id1041512978?mt=8

  The applications developer is very accessibility orientated, and has made 
every feature accessible to VoiceOver users.

  Ed
On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Hi all.
While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends who 
are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to track a 
storm? 
Thanks.
Jen


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RE: Latest Hulu Update

2017-09-09 Thread Mike Ulrich 
You know, I can never figure that out! Why do companies that want us blinks to 
spend our money with them, and originally put out a good accessible app, all of 
a sudden an update comes out and bingo; no more accessibility!
I can think of many stores, shops and service providers; with garbage apps, and 
some with garbage websites!



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Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update

I just called HuLu customer support and talked to a very nice person who 
totally understood and agreed with my complaints. I wrote a negative review in 
the App store. I hope that the complaints from blind and sighted users will 
make an impact, but in the meantime the app sucks. I will wait for a couple of 
weeks to see if they update the app and improve it, and if not, I will cancel 
my account. 


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> On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Lisa, you're correct. There was a time when it didn't work too well, but I 
> did have some workarounds. This time it appears totally inaccessible as from 
> what I can see. I won't get rid of it today. I will wait maybe for another 
> update. Let me know if they answer your email about making it accessible.
> Candy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, same here.  I guess that's an extra $8.49 I can put toward more 
>> accessible apps.  ,sigh>
>> 
>> I'm going to try to write to them first to at least see if they're 
>> interested in making it work.  If I remember correctly, it started working 
>> after one of the updates in the 4.X build, but I don't think they put any 
>> extra voice over access into it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and 
>> procrastinate all at once.
>> - Original Message - From: "Candy Lowe" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 4:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Latest Hulu Update
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa, I am so disappointed. I had updated the app but had not looked at it. 
>> It appears to be totally in accessible.
>> instead of having a Watch list you now have my stuff. Anything you tap on 
>> you can't read any of the results. I am really thinking about canceling it. 
>> I have had it for at least five years and had no problems up until now.
>> I hadn't used it for a while because I mainly use it with the new shows. 
>> Everything was re runs so I just was waiting until the new season. Oh well.
>> 
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>>> On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Lisa Belville  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all.
>>> 
>>> I'm using an iPhone SE with iOS 10.3.3 and the latest version of Hulu 
>>> issued Wednesday.  This is version 5.6.  Since updating this app I can't 
>>> get past the first screen.  It tells me to swipe to get started, and then 
>>> there are four pages which I can move to, but I can't get any additional 
>>> info about the app or it's programming.  I've been a hulu subscriber for a 
>>> while, and their recent offerings have been fine as far as accessibility 
>>> goes.  I'm wondering if there's a workaround, such as turning VO off and 
>>> tapping on something to get past this introductory screen.  I can't tell if 
>>> there's something even on the screen, but I'm assuming there is something 
>>> but VO can only read that small part of it.
>>> 
>>> TIA for the help/info.
>>> 
>>> Lisa
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and 
>>> procrastinate all at once.
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