Re: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

[Steve Matzura]

When sending text messages, if you don't have the recipient(s) in 
Contacts, separate the telephone numbers or email addresses with a 
semicolon. I got caught out by this just this past weekend. Every time I 
typed a telephone number and pressed ENTER (on my Mac) to add that phone 
number to the addressees list, I got shot over to the message input 
field, my addressees list contained only one entry--the one I just 
added, and I was unable to add any more numbers or names. I called a 
friend who knows this stuff like the back of his hand, and he suggested 
I try separating the telephone numbers with a semicolon, then adding the 
names that are already in Contacts. This worked flawlessly. What I don't 
know is how I would end a list of addressees with a telephone number and 
not lose all the names I have already selected. I suppose I'll have to 
experiment and discover.



On 10/10/2019 12:22 PM, Holly wrote:

Shirley:

You don't have to put in any symbols.  They will be separated 
automatically.




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RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And in addition to all of the great books they have, it’s just so easy and 
accessible and I just like the fact I have so many books available there in my 
library and I can do just about all of my listening in this one app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 8:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

I have to check again, but last time I looked they did not offer the all at 
once purchase and neither did they offer the Platinum, 2-credit a month 
subscription for $22.95. But between my credits and the daily deal books as 
well as the occasional extra promotion I usually find enough. I also have 
almost a thousand books in my Audible library and many of them are books I like 
to listen to again every few years. On top of that I don’t listen as much any 
more since I got married and especially not this past summer when one of my 
best friends and his wife were visiting Canada for 5 month and they stayed with 
us a month in the beginning and the 2 month at the end of their time here, then 
there is the fact that I work 60 to 70 hours a week so listening is usually for 
the 20 minutes I walk to work and home in the evening and later at night since 
I usually sleep a fair bit later than my wife.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Sieghard,
In Canada do they allow you to buy the Gold membership at once? I have in the 
past paid $149 for 12 credits, which is usually 12 books, which comes out to 
about $12.50 per book and you can use them anytime, rather than just once a 
month.
Since our National Library Service is getting more and more of the commercial 
audio books I did not renew with Audible.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 13, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
I think between our free library services and Audible one has a pretty good 
choice of books. If you can afford $14.95 a month for an Audible Canada 
membership you then have also access to their daily deal books which are 
anywhere between $3 to $7 or so Canadian and while not all are books which will 
interest you, I usually find at least 1 or 2 and sometimes 3 each month which 
are good books and which I can pick up for a few bucks and I can then use my 
monthly credit for other books I want. The nice thing is that in the US the 
Audible Gold membership is $14.95 US and before Audible Canada started this of 
course translated into $21 or $22 depending on the exchange rate. Audible has 
kept the Canadian membership price at the same $14.95 except it's now charged 
in Canadian Dollars. From time to time they also have special sales where a 
selection of a couple of hundred books are all offered for $5.95 or $6.95 or as 
just now for the Canadian Thanks-Giving weekend, you can buy two books with 1 
credit.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Mark. I know the e mail that you are talking about chirp and also the 
books that they offer. I should point out that this seems to be only for people 
who live in the US and so if people live out side of the US like in Canada I am 
ot shure if you are able to pay for the books or not. I have not used the app 
but do get the news letter. I also feel that wile the books and stuff are good 
discounts it would be nice if they were offerd in Canadion as well since wile 
they might be a good discount in USD not so in CAD. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: October 13, 2019 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Everyone,

There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.

I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found to 
be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this service, 
then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over Drive.

There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for iOS 
in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.

Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver to 
download and listen to purchased titles?

Mark

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RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have to check again, but last time I looked they did not offer the all at 
once purchase and neither did they offer the Platinum, 2-credit a month 
subscription for $22.95. But between my credits and the daily deal books as 
well as the occasional extra promotion I usually find enough. I also have 
almost a thousand books in my Audible library and many of them are books I like 
to listen to again every few years. On top of that I don’t listen as much any 
more since I got married and especially not this past summer when one of my 
best friends and his wife were visiting Canada for 5 month and they stayed with 
us a month in the beginning and the 2 month at the end of their time here, then 
there is the fact that I work 60 to 70 hours a week so listening is usually for 
the 20 minutes I walk to work and home in the evening and later at night since 
I usually sleep a fair bit later than my wife.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Sieghard,
In Canada do they allow you to buy the Gold membership at once? I have in the 
past paid $149 for 12 credits, which is usually 12 books, which comes out to 
about $12.50 per book and you can use them anytime, rather than just once a 
month.
Since our National Library Service is getting more and more of the commercial 
audio books I did not renew with Audible.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Oct 13, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
I think between our free library services and Audible one has a pretty good 
choice of books. If you can afford $14.95 a month for an Audible Canada 
membership you then have also access to their daily deal books which are 
anywhere between $3 to $7 or so Canadian and while not all are books which will 
interest you, I usually find at least 1 or 2 and sometimes 3 each month which 
are good books and which I can pick up for a few bucks and I can then use my 
monthly credit for other books I want. The nice thing is that in the US the 
Audible Gold membership is $14.95 US and before Audible Canada started this of 
course translated into $21 or $22 depending on the exchange rate. Audible has 
kept the Canadian membership price at the same $14.95 except it's now charged 
in Canadian Dollars. From time to time they also have special sales where a 
selection of a couple of hundred books are all offered for $5.95 or $6.95 or as 
just now for the Canadian Thanks-Giving weekend, you can buy two books with 1 
credit.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Mark. I know the e mail that you are talking about chirp and also the 
books that they offer. I should point out that this seems to be only for people 
who live in the US and so if people live out side of the US like in Canada I am 
ot shure if you are able to pay for the books or not. I have not used the app 
but do get the news letter. I also feel that wile the books and stuff are good 
discounts it would be nice if they were offerd in Canadion as well since wile 
they might be a good discount in USD not so in CAD. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: October 13, 2019 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Everyone,

There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.

I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found to 
be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this service, 
then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over Drive.

There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for iOS 
in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.

Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver to 
download and listen to purchased titles?

Mark

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RE: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is definitely something wrong, it should never take this long to charge 
an iPhone. Are you using the wall adapter that came with the phone or a 
third-party adapter? 
Lightning cables can of course also go bad.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Raikes
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

Thanks Sieghard , I have followed our steps and plugged in the iPhone.
It had been plugged in since 10:00 last night after it had shut off due to low 
battery, and by 4:30 this afternoon it had only charged to 79%.

I think there may be something wrong with my lightning cord as well, but it 
seems to be charging now.

On 10/11/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Close all apps in the app switcher, then go to Settings > General > 
> Reset and select to Reset Network Settings.
> After the phone reboots you have to rejoin your WiFi including 
> entering your password and if your phone was called something like 
> Donald's iPhone you have to go to Settings > General > About and 
> rename it. After a Reset Network Settings the name is simply reset to 
> "iPhone".
> Often doing this can have a very positive effect.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donald Raikes
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>
> Battery health says it is at about 87%.
>
> No navigation apps open as far as I can tell from the app switcher.
>
> On 10/11/19, Dave  wrote:
>> have you checked your battery health?
>>
>> Also, check, if you have any navigation apps, open in your app 
>> switcher, which might be using up your battery.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 4:39 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have noticed in the two weeks since I upgraded my iPhone 8 to iOS
>> 13.1.2 tghat my battery life is significantly shorter.  As in from a 
>> 100% charge with hte phone just sitting on my desk not plugged in and 
>> when I am not using it for anything, the battery drains to 50% within 
>> a couple of hours.
>>
>> If I am listening to an audio book, it can go to 0% within 3-4 hours.
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed this issue, and is there any way to help 
>> preserve battery life?
>>
>> I will be travelling in a few weeks and I need my phone to be working 
>> at its best then.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Donald
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Re: dice world questions

[Mama Peach]

You can’t use gold by just playing the computer players. The gold is used when 
you play an actual opponent. If when playing an opponent and you have bonus 
rolls enabled for that game, it gives you an extra roll. So say you are playing 
Yahtzee, you normally get 3 rolls before your turn is over. With Bonus Rolls, 
it gives you 4 rolls which helps if you are trying to accomplish a particular 
scoring spot on the board. I hope this makes sense.

From: Paul and Paula Jordan 
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: dice world questions

Hi all.  As I said in a previous query, I’m a dice world player who plays 
mostly against the computer.  I’ve  have a bunch of gold, but I don’t know how 
to use it or what I can do with it.  I know this is probably basic information 
for most dice world players, but I’m pretty clueless and want to do more with 
the game.  If this is too basic, feel free to write me off list at 
pau...@roadrunner.com.  Thanks for helping me expand my knowledge.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[kelby carlson]

It looks like if you are running an older version of iOS, the incompatible 
update will not show up. A good reason to keep automatic updates off, though.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:35 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> What I have heard second hand is that developers are having a lot of problem 
> going to 13. A lot of them are just doing what a lot of users are doing and 
> waiting for fixes to help them. Only what I heard, not saying it is true for 
> all developers. A lot of overhauls in 13 and so on. All in all, I have had 
> minimal difficulties with 13 and so on. 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
> 
> 
> Hi Mary,
>  
> Maybe whatever version of Overcast one has on a device running iOS 12 will 
> continue to work, but maybe then you won’t get updates.
> I am actually not just spreading an idea with no basis in fact, I was simply 
> repeating what it said in the “What’s New” for the latest update from 2 days 
> ago which I am quoting below and which you can read for yourself in the App 
> Store description for Overcast:
>  
> What’s New - Oct 11, 2019 
> Version 2019.10
> - Dark Mode support
> - Fixes for iOS 13
> iOS 13 is now required.
>  
> A bit further down in the app description it says:
> Compatibility
> Requires iOS 13.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod touch.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13
>  
> I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
> getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
> Mary
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
> IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have 
> to test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older 
> versions of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on 
> devices that don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here 
> from developers how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android 
> when they have to worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.
> 
>  
> 
> On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
> app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
> some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why 
> this is.
> The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Sieghard
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Re: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[lenron brown]

The library still doesn't have some of the stuff audible has. I love
audible and just got a gold member ship for half off. I will most
likely get 2 credits a month once the half off ends.

On 10/13/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Sieghard,
> In Canada do they allow you to buy the Gold membership at once? I have in
> the past paid $149 for 12 credits, which is usually 12 books, which comes
> out to about $12.50 per book and you can use them anytime, rather than just
> once a month.
> Since our National Library Service is getting more and more of the
> commercial audio books I did not renew with Audible.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I think between our free library services and Audible one has a pretty good
> choice of books. If you can afford $14.95 a month for an Audible Canada
> membership you then have also access to their daily deal books which are
> anywhere between $3 to $7 or so Canadian and while not all are books which
> will interest you, I usually find at least 1 or 2 and sometimes 3 each month
> which are good books and which I can pick up for a few bucks and I can then
> use my monthly credit for other books I want. The nice thing is that in the
> US the Audible Gold membership is $14.95 US and before Audible Canada
> started this of course translated into $21 or $22 depending on the exchange
> rate. Audible has kept the Canadian membership price at the same $14.95
> except it's now charged in Canadian Dollars. From time to time they also
> have special sales where a selection of a couple of hundred books are all
> offered for $5.95 or $6.95 or as just now for the Canadian Thanks-Giving
> weekend, you can buy two books with 1 credit.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
> Verrier
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers
>
> Hello Mark. I know the e mail that you are talking about chirp and also the
> books that they offer. I should point out that this seems to be only for
> people who live in the US and so if people live out side of the US like in
> Canada I am ot shure if you are able to pay for the books or not. I have not
> used the app but do get the news letter. I also feel that wile the books and
> stuff are good discounts it would be nice if they were offerd in Canadion as
> well since wile they might be a good discount in USD not so in CAD. From
> Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
> Taylor
> Sent: October 13, 2019 3:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.
>
> I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found
> to be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this
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> There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for
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Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life

[Donald Raikes]

Thanks Sieghard , I have followed our steps and plugged in the iPhone.
It had been plugged in since 10:00 last night after it had shut off
due to low battery, and by 4:30 this afternoon it had only charged to
79%.

I think there may be something wrong with my lightning cord as well,
but it seems to be charging now.

On 10/11/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Close all apps in the app switcher, then go to Settings > General > Reset
> and select to Reset Network Settings.
> After the phone reboots you have to rejoin your WiFi including entering your
> password and if your phone was called something like Donald's iPhone you
> have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it. After a Reset
> Network Settings the name is simply reset to "iPhone".
> Often doing this can have a very positive effect.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Donald Raikes
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 12:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>
> Battery health says it is at about 87%.
>
> No navigation apps open as far as I can tell from the app switcher.
>
> On 10/11/19, Dave  wrote:
>> have you checked your battery health?
>>
>> Also, check, if you have any navigation apps, open in your app
>> switcher, which might be using up your battery.
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 4:39 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: iPhone 8 with iOS 13.1.2 really short battery life
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have noticed in the two weeks since I upgraded my iPhone 8 to iOS
>> 13.1.2 tghat my battery life is significantly shorter.  As in from a
>> 100% charge with hte phone just sitting on my desk not plugged in and
>> when I am not using it for anything, the battery drains to 50% within
>> a couple of hours.
>>
>> If I am listening to an audio book, it can go to 0% within 3-4 hours.
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed this issue, and is there any way to help
>> preserve battery life?
>>
>> I will be travelling in a few weeks and I need my phone to be working
>> at its best then.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Donald
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Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
> II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 
> 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.
>  
> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
> and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
>  
> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
> phone?
>  
> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
>  
> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
> to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
> version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have 
> the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 
>  
> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
> older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. 
> How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
> phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the 
> phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.
>  
> Hope this all makes sense.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
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Scribd Library app

[Beth G]

Hello All,

I’ve been trying the trial version of this app. I can see books, and read the 
first page, but I’m not sure how to navigate beyond this. Has anyone use this 
app and had good luck with it? How do I read a book with it?

Thanks,


Beth

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Re: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard,
In Canada do they allow you to buy the Gold membership at once? I have in the 
past paid $149 for 12 credits, which is usually 12 books, which comes out to 
about $12.50 per book and you can use them anytime, rather than just once a 
month.
Since our National Library Service is getting more and more of the commercial 
audio books I did not renew with Audible.




Richard
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On Oct 13, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I think between our free library services and Audible one has a pretty good 
choice of books. If you can afford $14.95 a month for an Audible Canada 
membership you then have also access to their daily deal books which are 
anywhere between $3 to $7 or so Canadian and while not all are books which will 
interest you, I usually find at least 1 or 2 and sometimes 3 each month which 
are good books and which I can pick up for a few bucks and I can then use my 
monthly credit for other books I want. The nice thing is that in the US the 
Audible Gold membership is $14.95 US and before Audible Canada started this of 
course translated into $21 or $22 depending on the exchange rate. Audible has 
kept the Canadian membership price at the same $14.95 except it's now charged 
in Canadian Dollars. From time to time they also have special sales where a 
selection of a couple of hundred books are all offered for $5.95 or $6.95 or as 
just now for the Canadian Thanks-Giving weekend, you can buy two books with 1 
credit.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Mark. I know the e mail that you are talking about chirp and also the 
books that they offer. I should point out that this seems to be only for people 
who live in the US and so if people live out side of the US like in Canada I am 
ot shure if you are able to pay for the books or not. I have not used the app 
but do get the news letter. I also feel that wile the books and stuff are good 
discounts it would be nice if they were offerd in Canadion as well since wile 
they might be a good discount in USD not so in CAD. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: October 13, 2019 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Everyone,

There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.

I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found to 
be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this service, 
then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over Drive.

There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for iOS 
in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.

Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver to 
download and listen to purchased titles?

Mark

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RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think between our free library services and Audible one has a pretty good 
choice of books. If you can afford $14.95 a month for an Audible Canada 
membership you then have also access to their daily deal books which are 
anywhere between $3 to $7 or so Canadian and while not all are books which will 
interest you, I usually find at least 1 or 2 and sometimes 3 each month which 
are good books and which I can pick up for a few bucks and I can then use my 
monthly credit for other books I want. The nice thing is that in the US the 
Audible Gold membership is $14.95 US and before Audible Canada started this of 
course translated into $21 or $22 depending on the exchange rate. Audible has 
kept the Canadian membership price at the same $14.95 except it's now charged 
in Canadian Dollars. From time to time they also have special sales where a 
selection of a couple of hundred books are all offered for $5.95 or $6.95 or as 
just now for the Canadian Thanks-Giving weekend, you can buy two books with 1 
credit.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Mark. I know the e mail that you are talking about chirp and also the 
books that they offer. I should point out that this seems to be only for people 
who live in the US and so if people live out side of the US like in Canada I am 
ot shure if you are able to pay for the books or not. I have not used the app 
but do get the news letter. I also feel that wile the books and stuff are good 
discounts it would be nice if they were offerd in Canadion as well since wile 
they might be a good discount in USD not so in CAD. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: October 13, 2019 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Everyone,

There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.  

I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found to 
be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this service, 
then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over Drive.  

There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for iOS 
in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.  

Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver to 
download and listen to purchased titles?  

Mark

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RE: ScripTalk app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I believe it is because of the NFC chip, the iPhone 7 was the first iPhone 
where the NFC chip was made available for broader uses.

-Original Message-
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Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ScripTalk app

I have a question.  I have read that Only the iPhone 7 and above work with 
this.  Is that because it uses infrared and the 6 S does not have it? 
Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
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From: "Curtis Delzer" 
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Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: ScripTalk app


we did a "beta test" for script talk and it required another app to be
installed before it was available to use called "test flight." I guess
it is out of beta now? and, certainly we ran it before the 13.0 IOS
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Re: ScripTalk app

[Kay Malmquist]

I have a question.  I have read that Only the iPhone 7 and above work with 
this.  Is that because it uses infrared and the 6 S does not have it? 
Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
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From: "Curtis Delzer" 
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Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: ScripTalk app


we did a "beta test" for script talk and it required another app to be
installed before it was available to use called "test flight." I guess
it is out of beta now? and, certainly we ran it before the 13.0 IOS
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
WB6HEF
San Bernardino, CA

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RE: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Mich Verrier]

Hello Mark. I know the e mail that you are talking about chirp and also the 
books that they offer. I should point out that this seems to be only for people 
who live in the US and so if people live out side of the US like in Canada I am 
ot shure if you are able to pay for the books or not. I have not used the app 
but do get the news letter. I also feel that wile the books and stuff are good 
discounts it would be nice if they were offerd in Canadion as well since wile 
they might be a good discount in USD not so in CAD. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: October 13, 2019 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

Hello Everyone,

There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.  

I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found
to be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this
service, then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over
Drive.  

There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for
iOS in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.  

Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver
to download and listen to purchased titles?  

Mark

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RE: GPS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Duane,

You said you only got lost once in the car with google Maps, was just wondering 
if you were driving and the only person in the car at the time! LOL

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS

GoogleMaps has only gotten me lost in a car once.  I love the APP and the 
guidance is excellent.  The added bonus is that the APP's free.

Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Dave Jones 
mailto:grou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
As stated previously, Apple Maps and Google maps both have the ability to list 
the steps taken within a route. I wouldn’t pay the extravagant fee for Seeing 
AI GPS or others when there are free ones that will do an excellent job. I use 
them all the time navigating on foot and in a car with no problem whatsoever. 
Have a good day.


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 11:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Microsoft Soundscapes is free and also very nice if you simply want to know 
what streets are coming up as  you walk.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gradimir Kragic
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS


Also check out Loadstone GPS. Link:
http://www.loadstone-gps.com

Best,


From: Paul and Paula Jordan
to: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS

Also check out nearby explorer online.  It’s free.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Wright
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS

Check  out Seeing eye GPS

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?***

From: Steve & Shannon Cook
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: GPS

Hi All,

I am looking for a GPS app that list the directions on the screen that I can 
read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and waze with 
no success.  Thanks in advance!

Steve

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Re: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[lenron brown]

I have not used the app but I have it installed. Seems to be accessible.

On 10/13/19, Holly  wrote:
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> I have never heard of this website, but thanks for telling us about it.
> Always looking for good books.
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Re: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Holly]

Mark:

I have never heard of this website, but thanks for telling us about it. 
Always looking for good books. 


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Re: Los Angeles times app

[Cristobal Munoz]

Yeah, I only thought of that after I had finished logging in. Anyway. All’s 
well that ends well.

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> The three finger swipe from right to left did it. I don’t know why I didn’t 
> think of that, since I did try three finger swipe up which did nothing. 
> Thanks.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> In some cases doing a 3-finger swipe from right to left or bottom to top 
>> may take you through these initial screens.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Los Angeles times app
>> 
>> You just made me open up the ap on my iPhone XR. I'm a digital subscriber, 
>> but if I read anything from the LA times, it's mainly via link I've come 
>> across Twitter or from one of my RSS feeds and in Safari. I mainly use the 
>> app for local alerts and such.
>> It had been a while since I used it so hadn't actually done so since their 
>> big update from whenever they started rolling it out.
>> Anyway, true, the screen just shows those two items. I tried closing and 
>> reopening etc. Turning VO off and randomly swiping and tapping, but no go. 
>> I finally handed the phone to my sighted wife who said that it displayed a 
>> series of those see what's new screens and to swipe next etc. She went 
>> through the prompts and landed on the log in screen where I took the phone 
>> back and proceeded with my log in with 1Password.
>> Now that I'm logged in, everything at first glance (no pun intended) seems 
>> accessible enough. The tabs at the bottom, stories etc. 
>> I guess it's just getting past that initial see what's new stuff (which is 
>> nevertheless a fail on their part), and you should be good to go. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
>> mac4thebl...@freelists.org
>> Subject: Los Angeles times app
>> 
>> I wonder if anybody is able to successfully get past the opening screen of 
>> the LA Times app on the iPhone. I just downloaded it and opened it, and 
>> there are only two things spoken, one is welcome to the times or something 
>> like that, and the other says something about an all new news experience. 
>> Nothing works. I double tap on both of those things. I can’t get past that 
>> screen. It’s hard for me to believe that the leading newspaper in one of the 
>> largest metro areas in the country is completely voiceover useless. I know 
>> you can get it on Apple news. But what if I want to get the app and have and 
>> possibly have things organized in a better manner than what you get when you 
>> just look at a random feed? Has anyone had any success with this app?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Los Angeles times app

[Mary Otten]

The three finger swipe from right to left did it. I don’t know why I didn’t 
think of that, since I did try three finger swipe up which did nothing. Thanks.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> In some cases doing a 3-finger swipe from right to left or bottom to top may 
> take you through these initial screens.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Los Angeles times app
> 
> You just made me open up the ap on my iPhone XR. I'm a digital subscriber, 
> but if I read anything from the LA times, it's mainly via link I've come 
> across Twitter or from one of my RSS feeds and in Safari. I mainly use the 
> app for local alerts and such.
> It had been a while since I used it so hadn't actually done so since their 
> big update from whenever they started rolling it out.
> Anyway, true, the screen just shows those two items. I tried closing and 
> reopening etc. Turning VO off and randomly swiping and tapping, but no go. 
> I finally handed the phone to my sighted wife who said that it displayed a 
> series of those see what's new screens and to swipe next etc. She went 
> through the prompts and landed on the log in screen where I took the phone 
> back and proceeded with my log in with 1Password.
> Now that I'm logged in, everything at first glance (no pun intended) seems 
> accessible enough. The tabs at the bottom, stories etc. 
> I guess it's just getting past that initial see what's new stuff (which is 
> nevertheless a fail on their part), and you should be good to go. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
> mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Los Angeles times app
> 
> I wonder if anybody is able to successfully get past the opening screen of 
> the LA Times app on the iPhone. I just downloaded it and opened it, and there 
> are only two things spoken, one is welcome to the times or something like 
> that, and the other says something about an all new news experience. Nothing 
> works. I double tap on both of those things. I can’t get past that screen. 
> It’s hard for me to believe that the leading newspaper in one of the largest 
> metro areas in the country is completely voiceover useless. I know you can 
> get it on Apple news. But what if I want to get the app and have and possibly 
> have things organized in a better manner than what you get when you just look 
> at a random feed? Has anyone had any success with this app?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.  

I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found
to be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this
service, then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over
Drive.  

There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for
iOS in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.  

Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver
to download and listen to purchased titles?  

Mark

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RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

[Cher Bosch]

I have been talking about text messaging- not email. I’m not sure I 
communicated that very well- esp. as you mentioned email in your reply.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

No, I find iCloud to be utterly frustrating.

 

ABC Groups is fairly easy to use and while you have to do your Email from 
within the app, it works quite well.

 

Later,

Richard

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I found the Groups app in a search- but, of course, 
accessibility was not mentioned. Have you also tried creating a group in 
iCloud.com as the article suggestioned? Since the iCloud control panel is not 
very friendly, I questioned whether iCloud.com was any better.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Subject: Re: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

i prefer ABC Groups. For $1.99 you can remove ads.

I use this one all the time for our book club, and a few other groups.

Fully accessible.

 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-groups-group-contacts/id685048714 

  

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

 

For further info- here is the page link. The Groups app is below the iCloud 
section- and listed as a heading Level 2:

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/how-to-make-a-contact-group-on-iphone/ 

 

 

Cher 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Subject: groups app - to send messages to multiple recipients

 

Is anyone using this app and can say whether it is accessible? I have seen it 
recommended as an easy way to create a group which can repeatedly be used to 
send messages to an entire group of recipients.

 

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Re: GPS

[Duane Steele]

GoogleMaps has only gotten me lost in a car once.  I love the APP and the 
guidance is excellent.  The added bonus is that the APP's free.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Dave Jones  wrote:
> 
> As stated previously, Apple Maps and Google maps both have the ability to 
> list the steps taken within a route. I wouldn’t pay the extravagant fee for 
> Seeing AI GPS or others when there are free ones that will do an excellent 
> job. I use them all the time navigating on foot and in a car with no problem 
> whatsoever. Have a good day.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 11:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Microsoft Soundscapes is free and also very nice if you simply want to know 
>> what streets are coming up as  you walk.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Gradimir Kragic
>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 10:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: GPS
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Also check out Loadstone GPS. Link: 
>> 
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Paul and Paula Jordan
>> 
>> to: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Subject: RE: GPS
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Also check out nearby explorer online.  It’s free.
>> 
>> God bless!
>> 
>> Paula and Garçon
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Robert Wright
>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 11:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: GPS
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Check  out Seeing eye GPS
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
>> learning start?*** 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Steve & Shannon Cook
>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: GPS
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am looking for a GPS app that list the directions on the screen that I can 
>> read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and waze 
>> with no success.  Thanks in advance!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>  
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Re: GPS

[Dave Jones]

As stated previously, Apple Maps and Google maps both have the ability to
list the steps taken within a route. I wouldn’t pay the extravagant fee for
Seeing AI GPS or others when there are free ones that will do an excellent
job. I use them all the time navigating on foot and in a car with no
problem whatsoever. Have a good day.


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 11:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Microsoft Soundscapes is free and also very nice if you simply want to
> know what streets are coming up as  you walk.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Gradimir Kragic
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 12, 2019 10:41 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS
>
>
>
>
>
> Also check out Loadstone GPS. Link:
>
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul and Paula Jordan 
>
> *to:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* RE: GPS
>
>
>
> Also check out nearby explorer online.  It’s free.
>
> God bless!
>
> Paula and Garçon
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Robert Wright
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 12, 2019 11:35 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: GPS
>
>
>
> Check  out Seeing eye GPS
>
>
>
> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
> learning start?***
>
>
>
> *From: *Steve & Shannon Cook 
> *Sent: *Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:07 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *GPS
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am looking for a GPS app that list the directions on the screen that I
> can read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and
> waze with no success.  Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[regina alvarado]

What I have heard second hand is that developers are having a lot of problem 
going to 13. A lot of them are just doing what a lot of users are doing and 
waiting for fixes to help them. Only what I heard, not saying it is true for 
all developers. A lot of overhauls in 13 and so on. All in all, I have had 
minimal difficulties with 13 and so on. 
> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 


Hi Mary,
 
Maybe whatever version of Overcast one has on a device running iOS 12 will 
continue to work, but maybe then you won’t get updates.
I am actually not just spreading an idea with no basis in fact, I was simply 
repeating what it said in the “What’s New” for the latest update from 2 days 
ago which I am quoting below and which you can read for yourself in the App 
Store description for Overcast:
 
What’s New - Oct 11, 2019 
Version 2019.10
- Dark Mode support
- Fixes for iOS 13
iOS 13 is now required.
 
A bit further down in the app description it says:
Compatibility
Requires iOS 13.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod touch.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13
 
I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary

 
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.

 

On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.
The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.
 
Regards,
 
Sieghard
 
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Transferring podcast feeds to another podcast app from the native podcast one?

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’ve b een using iOS’s native podcast ap for as long as I can remember! If I 
were to try OverCast or downCast, how hard/easy would it be to transfer my 
podcast feeds from the native one to the new one, if it can be done? thanks for 
any info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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RE: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There comes a point when every developer drops support for older software and 
to me this makes sense.
I do find it surprising, however, why a developer would drop support for iOS 12 
less than 4 weeks after iOS 13 came out and when certainly iOS 13 has not yet 
been adopted as widely as it will be in another 3 or 4 months. I guess as long 
as somebody with iOS 12 or earlier simply doesn’t get the app update and can 
continue to use the app (I am talking about apps in general and not necessarily 
just Overcast now) then that is OK, what would be not so good is if somebody 
got the update on their iOS 12 device and the app would no longer work 
afterwards. Dark Mode, for example, is an iOS 13 feature so it of course makes 
sense that it wouldn’t work in iOS 12 or earlier, but it is not like when Apple 
announced only 64 bit apps would be supported going forward and there came a 
point when apps which had been abandoned by their developer just didn’t work 
any more or disappeared from the app store.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten 
Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13


I never said that developers won't support older versions of IOS, but when 
we're talking about a few percentage points of the market, I just pointed out 
why some developers would find it economically advantageous to drop support for 
older versions of IOS. 
https://medium.com/marino-software/why-you-should-stop-supporting-older-os-versions-ba55115dd16


On 10/12/19 10:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
A couple of the apps I have on my phone have recently had updates. And they 
have talked about providing fixes for things on iOS 10 and 11. So, Christopher, 
I think you’re out in left field here on this one.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.


On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.
The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly, I remember many years ago I think it was in the 6S and/or 6S Plus 
Apple had two suppliers of some internal chip and phones which had the one 
manufacturer's chip had I think slightly worse battery life than the other or 
something like that. Anyways, I don't think this makes any significant 
difference, but as for how this bug slipped by Apple is easy, it slipped by 
Apple in the same way as all bugs slip by which is it didn't get fixed before 
the public release of iOS 13. This was certainly reported by those who 
privately or publicly tested iOS 13 and with every iOS release such bugs 
existed sometimes they are worse than other times and why some users seem to 
experience them more than others could be simply based on how their phone is 
set up, maybe it has to do with the speech used. I actually switched back to 
Samantha Enhanced after having used the female US SIRI voice for the last 6 
weeks or so because it occurred to me I should maybe see if I have this issue 
with Samantha. So far I haven't had it, but I also only made and received 3 or 
4 or maybe 5 calls since I switched back to Samantha. But I think everybody who 
posts about this should include what voice they use.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; richr...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Well, it doesn't really matter whether all iPhones are created equal or not. 
They all carry the Apple logo, and you'll never find anything anywhere from 
Apple that says only some iPhone 11's are supported and others are not. This 
may make it more difficult for Apple to track down the root cause, but the 
burden is still on Apple to ensure their software works on all supported 
devices.


On 10/13/19 10:09 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
> In a way, what you seem to be implying is that Apple does not have total 
> control over its products. If that is true, that is a rather disconcerting 
> state of things. I've lost sound a number of times, and I can't imagine how 
> this bug slipped by Apple, and if Apple indeed does not control their 
> products i.e. two iPhone 11s are not the same, that is truly unfortunate!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
>
> Hello Carolyn, et al:
>
> You know, I've been puzzling over this ever since I updated my 8 Plus to the 
> latest version of iOS and purchasing an iPhone 11; both having never lost 
> VoiceOver as the result of any activity.  With the rare exception of some 
> VoiceOver display bleed-through errors, described in previous posts, I never 
> use any of my Apple devices without VoiceOver and yet, try as I may, I cannot 
> reproduce the loss-of-VoiceOver glitch with or without earphones, of any 
> type, attached.
>
> Did you know that not all iPhones are created equal?  There are several 
> different models referred to by the same device name.  Also, in the United 
> States at least, the type of carrier used can, in fact, have an impact on 
> device performance.  For example, several years ago there was a VoiceOver 
> display driver bug that only affected certain iPhones sold by certain 
> manufacturers.  Moreover, if memory serves, iPhones older than the 7 series 
> would have 1 of 2 different modems installed, based on certain factors.  My 
> point, regardless of the name used, not all iPhones are identical, in terms 
> of hardware.
>
> Again, at present, this is just a guess as Apple never admits to hardly 
> anything until it has been resolved but I suspect that those having this 
> problem, or the reverse, those like me, who are not having this problem, can 
> attribute it to the device type that is being used.
>
> For example, and again, this is just a guess so don't take issue, I make it a 
> practice to pay full price for SIM-free models of any Apple device, only.  
> The SIM-free model is one that is generally sold outside of the US but can, 
> upon request, be purchased inside the US, as well.
>
> I was told, by an Apple employee, that all iPhone 11 series phones are now 
> SIM-free unless the purchaser elects not to pay full price for the phone, up 
> front.  I do not know how true this is as I am certain that when one 
> purchases a device directly from a carrier, the device is most certainly not 
> SIM-free.
>
> While I am certain that Apple will resolve this loss-of-VoiceOver issue, the 
> fact that it even exists suggests to me that they did not or could not 
> anticipate this problem on their in-house models, said models most likely 
> being the purist of the pure where software and hardware installs are 
> concerned.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Holly]

Hi everyone:

I was wondering if the bugs in iOS 13.1.2, are more prevalent in any 
particular model of phone, I.e.  SE, iPhone 7, 8, etc.. 


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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Christopher Chaltain]

I never said that developers won't support older versions of IOS, but 
when we're talking about a few percentage points of the market, I just 
pointed out why some developers would find it economically advantageous 
to drop support for older versions of IOS. 
https://medium.com/marino-software/why-you-should-stop-supporting-older-os-versions-ba55115dd16



On 10/12/19 10:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
A couple of the apps I have on my phone have recently had updates. And 
they have talked about providing fixes for things on iOS 10 and 11. 
So, Christopher, I think you’re out in left field here on this one.



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:


Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest 
version of IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save 
when they don't have to test their apps on older versions of IOS or 
provide support for older versions of IOS. All the app developers 
lose is those customers running on devices that don't support the 
latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers how 
expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they 
have to worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.



On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a 
popular Podcast app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I 
find it interesting how some apps drop support apparently for even 
iOS 12 already and I wonder why this is.


The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently 
mentioned.


Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Using Apple Pay in XR?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The side button is the same button which has been on every iPhone at the top 
right side and which in earlier phones is only used as the sleep/wake button 
and to power the phone on and off. On the newer phones without home button it 
is also used to toggle Voiceover on/off with a triple click if you have 
configured this just as a triple click of the home button does, as Mary said a 
double click brings up Apple Pay and pushing and holding it for a moment will 
bring up SIRI.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using Apple Pay in XR?

Thanks much! Is Side Button a physical button?
Thanks!


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Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Apple Pay in XR?

Yes, Apple Pay can certainly be used without the home button. You use the side 
button, which you click twice from a lock screen. Then you do face ID. Then you 
hold the phone near the reader with the camera facing down. And that’s it. This 
assumes that you have the Apple card in your wallet, and that it is either the 
only card you have or the default card. Also, if you’re on a site or using an 
app that uses Apple Pay, you use the side button in the same way. You double 
tap Apple Pay. You double click the side button, and Face ID does it’s thing, 
and you’re done. The side button replaces the home button in these instances. 
Face ID replaces touch ID.


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mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, list.
Can Apple Pay be used in XR? If yes, how can it be done without fingerprints?
Thanks!

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RE: GPS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Microsoft Soundscapes is free and also very nice if you simply want to know 
what streets are coming up as  you walk.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gradimir 
Kragic
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS


Also check out Loadstone GPS. Link:
http://www.loadstone-gps.com

Best,


From: Paul and Paula Jordan
to: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS

Also check out nearby explorer online.  It’s free.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wright
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 11:35 PM
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Subject: RE: GPS

Check  out Seeing eye GPS

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?***

From: Steve & Shannon Cook
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: GPS

Hi All,

I am looking for a GPS app that list the directions on the screen that I can 
read with VO.  I have tried Apple maps, Google maps, Blind Square and waze with 
no success.  Thanks in advance!

Steve

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RE: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary,

Maybe whatever version of Overcast one has on a device running iOS 12 will 
continue to work, but maybe then you won’t get updates.
I am actually not just spreading an idea with no basis in fact, I was simply 
repeating what it said in the “What’s New” for the latest update from 2 days 
ago which I am quoting below and which you can read for yourself in the App 
Store description for Overcast:

What’s New - Oct 11, 2019
Version 2019.10
- Dark Mode support
- Fixes for iOS 13
iOS 13 is now required.

A bit further down in the app description it says:
Compatibility
Requires iOS 13.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod touch.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary

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On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.


On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.
The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.

Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Christopher Chaltain]

Well, it doesn't really matter whether all iPhones are created equal or 
not. They all carry the Apple logo, and you'll never find anything 
anywhere from Apple that says only some iPhone 11's are supported and 
others are not. This may make it more difficult for Apple to track down 
the root cause, but the burden is still on Apple to ensure their 
software works on all supported devices.



On 10/13/19 10:09 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

In a way, what you seem to be implying is that Apple does not have total 
control over its products. If that is true, that is a rather disconcerting 
state of things. I've lost sound a number of times, and I can't imagine how 
this bug slipped by Apple, and if Apple indeed does not control their products 
i.e. two iPhone 11s are not the same, that is truly unfortunate!

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Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello Carolyn, et al:

You know, I've been puzzling over this ever since I updated my 8 Plus to the 
latest version of iOS and purchasing an iPhone 11; both having never lost 
VoiceOver as the result of any activity.  With the rare exception of some 
VoiceOver display bleed-through errors, described in previous posts, I never 
use any of my Apple devices without VoiceOver and yet, try as I may, I cannot 
reproduce the loss-of-VoiceOver glitch with or without earphones, of any type, 
attached.

Did you know that not all iPhones are created equal?  There are several 
different models referred to by the same device name.  Also, in the United 
States at least, the type of carrier used can, in fact, have an impact on 
device performance.  For example, several years ago there was a VoiceOver 
display driver bug that only affected certain iPhones sold by certain 
manufacturers.  Moreover, if memory serves, iPhones older than the 7 series 
would have 1 of 2 different modems installed, based on certain factors.  My 
point, regardless of the name used, not all iPhones are identical, in terms of 
hardware.

Again, at present, this is just a guess as Apple never admits to hardly 
anything until it has been resolved but I suspect that those having this 
problem, or the reverse, those like me, who are not having this problem, can 
attribute it to the device type that is being used.

For example, and again, this is just a guess so don't take issue, I make it a 
practice to pay full price for SIM-free models of any Apple device, only.  The 
SIM-free model is one that is generally sold outside of the US but can, upon 
request, be purchased inside the US, as well.

I was told, by an Apple employee, that all iPhone 11 series phones are now 
SIM-free unless the purchaser elects not to pay full price for the phone, up 
front.  I do not know how true this is as I am certain that when one purchases 
a device directly from a carrier, the device is most certainly not SIM-free.

While I am certain that Apple will resolve this loss-of-VoiceOver issue, the 
fact that it even exists suggests to me that they did not or could not 
anticipate this problem on their in-house models, said models most likely being 
the purist of the pure where software and hardware installs are concerned.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Yesterday, I lost speech, even Bluetooth did not get it for me - phone would 
not ring, only vibrate. We did reboot, turned off then back on. Finally, I 
called Apple Accessibility. We worked and worked again, finally turned off, 
back on, got it. She asked if she could screen share, did, checked About for my 
model information, said she would submit my second complaint with regard to 
VoiceOver. I told her I was out of the house, had the problem for hours, 
couldn't even get Siri. I wish I knew a work around, just to keep it from 
happening again.

I do like Call Silencer, but would give it up to stabilize VoiceOver.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
dani pagador
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, 
I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to 
voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be 
suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly 
press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the voicemail 
recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of the call to 
the FTC when I filed my complaint 

RE: Using Apple Pay in XR?

[Fazil]

Thanks much! Is Side Button a physical button?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Apple Pay in XR?

 

Yes, Apple Pay can certainly be used without the home button. You use the side 
button, which you click twice from a lock screen. Then you do face ID. Then you 
hold the phone near the reader with the camera facing down. And that’s it. This 
assumes that you have the Apple card in your wallet, and that it is either the 
only card you have or the default card. Also, if you’re on a site or using an 
app that uses Apple Pay, you use the side button in the same way. You double 
tap Apple Pay. You double click the side button, and Face ID does it’s thing, 
and you’re done. The side button replaces the home button in these instances. 
Face ID replaces touch ID.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





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Hi, list.

Can Apple Pay be used in XR? If yes, how can it be done without fingerprints?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Los Angeles times app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In some cases doing a 3-finger swipe from right to left or bottom to top may 
take you through these initial screens.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Los Angeles times app

You just made me open up the ap on my iPhone XR. I'm a digital subscriber, but 
if I read anything from the LA times, it's mainly via link I've come across 
Twitter or from one of my RSS feeds and in Safari. I mainly use the app for 
local alerts and such.
It had been a while since I used it so hadn't actually done so since their big 
update from whenever they started rolling it out.
Anyway, true, the screen just shows those two items. I tried closing and 
reopening etc. Turning VO off and randomly swiping and tapping, but no go. 
I finally handed the phone to my sighted wife who said that it displayed a 
series of those see what's new screens and to swipe next etc. She went through 
the prompts and landed on the log in screen where I took the phone back and 
proceeded with my log in with 1Password.
Now that I'm logged in, everything at first glance (no pun intended) seems 
accessible enough. The tabs at the bottom, stories etc. 
I guess it's just getting past that initial see what's new stuff (which is 
nevertheless a fail on their part), and you should be good to go. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Los Angeles times app

I wonder if anybody is able to successfully get past the opening screen of the 
LA Times app on the iPhone. I just downloaded it and opened it, and there are 
only two things spoken, one is welcome to the times or something like that, and 
the other says something about an all new news experience. Nothing works. I 
double tap on both of those things. I can’t get past that screen. It’s hard for 
me to believe that the leading newspaper in one of the largest metro areas in 
the country is completely voiceover useless. I know you can get it on Apple 
news. But what if I want to get the app and have and possibly have things 
organized in a better manner than what you get when you just look at a random 
feed? Has anyone had any success with this app?


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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[richring]

In a way, what you seem to be implying is that Apple does not have total 
control over its products. If that is true, that is a rather disconcerting 
state of things. I've lost sound a number of times, and I can't imagine how 
this bug slipped by Apple, and if Apple indeed does not control their products 
i.e. two iPhone 11s are not the same, that is truly unfortunate!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Hello Carolyn, et al:

You know, I've been puzzling over this ever since I updated my 8 Plus to the 
latest version of iOS and purchasing an iPhone 11; both having never lost 
VoiceOver as the result of any activity.  With the rare exception of some 
VoiceOver display bleed-through errors, described in previous posts, I never 
use any of my Apple devices without VoiceOver and yet, try as I may, I cannot 
reproduce the loss-of-VoiceOver glitch with or without earphones, of any type, 
attached.

Did you know that not all iPhones are created equal?  There are several 
different models referred to by the same device name.  Also, in the United 
States at least, the type of carrier used can, in fact, have an impact on 
device performance.  For example, several years ago there was a VoiceOver 
display driver bug that only affected certain iPhones sold by certain 
manufacturers.  Moreover, if memory serves, iPhones older than the 7 series 
would have 1 of 2 different modems installed, based on certain factors.  My 
point, regardless of the name used, not all iPhones are identical, in terms of 
hardware.

Again, at present, this is just a guess as Apple never admits to hardly 
anything until it has been resolved but I suspect that those having this 
problem, or the reverse, those like me, who are not having this problem, can 
attribute it to the device type that is being used.

For example, and again, this is just a guess so don't take issue, I make it a 
practice to pay full price for SIM-free models of any Apple device, only.  The 
SIM-free model is one that is generally sold outside of the US but can, upon 
request, be purchased inside the US, as well.

I was told, by an Apple employee, that all iPhone 11 series phones are now 
SIM-free unless the purchaser elects not to pay full price for the phone, up 
front.  I do not know how true this is as I am certain that when one purchases 
a device directly from a carrier, the device is most certainly not SIM-free.

While I am certain that Apple will resolve this loss-of-VoiceOver issue, the 
fact that it even exists suggests to me that they did not or could not 
anticipate this problem on their in-house models, said models most likely being 
the purist of the pure where software and hardware installs are concerned.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Yesterday, I lost speech, even Bluetooth did not get it for me - phone would 
not ring, only vibrate. We did reboot, turned off then back on. Finally, I 
called Apple Accessibility. We worked and worked again, finally turned off, 
back on, got it. She asked if she could screen share, did, checked About for my 
model information, said she would submit my second complaint with regard to 
VoiceOver. I told her I was out of the house, had the problem for hours, 
couldn't even get Siri. I wish I knew a work around, just to keep it from 
happening again. 

I do like Call Silencer, but would give it up to stabilize VoiceOver. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
dani pagador
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, 
I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to 
voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be 
suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly 
press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the voicemail 
recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of the call to 
the FTC when I filed my complaint with them after the call came in.

Yay, Apple.

Do the upgrade. Just have a pair of wired earbuds handy to get VO back if it 
kicks out after a call. I hung up just a few minutes ago from a call (without 
being plugged in), and lost speech but still had sound--I could hear the clicks 
as I swiped right and left. I grabbed my wired earbuds, plugged in, and VO was 
back.

HTH,
Dani





On 10/10/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Angie and 

Re: Using Apple Pay in XR?

[Mary Otten]

Yes, Apple Pay can certainly be used without the home button. You use the side 
button, which you click twice from a lock screen. Then you do face ID. Then you 
hold the phone near the reader with the camera facing down. And that’s it. This 
assumes that you have the Apple card in your wallet, and that it is either the 
only card you have or the default card. Also, if you’re on a site or using an 
app that uses Apple Pay, you use the side button in the same way. You double 
tap Apple Pay. You double click the side button, and Face ID does it’s thing, 
and you’re done. The side button replaces the home button in these instances. 
Face ID replaces touch ID.


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> On Oct 13, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Fazil  wrote:
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> 
> Hi, list.
> Can Apple Pay be used in XR? If yes, how can it be done without fingerprints?
> Thanks!
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Using Apple Pay in XR?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

Can Apple Pay be used in XR? If yes, how can it be done without
fingerprints?

Thanks!

 

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