AirPods pro strange phone call!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

A bizarre event this morning: I’m away on holiday and I took my guide dog out 
early in the dark. As we left the building, with iPhone in a zipped inner 
pocket, my new AirPods pro read out a new text message because suddenly outside 
there was mobile phone reception. And then my iPhone rang my pension provider! 
I hadn’t rung tgem for a couple of years and I certainly hadn’t asked Siri to 
do anything. Very odd! How can this have happened?
Harry at the seaside in Filey UK 

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RE: airpods pro and automatic switch to iphone when paired with pc

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is just one of the highly advanced features of the Airpods which Apple 
forgot to include and which any $50 Bluetooth earpiece or headset has.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: airpods pro and automatic switch to iphone when paired with pc

Hello,
Is there a means to have airpods pro automatically switch from a pc running 
Windows10 to iphone when say a call comes in? I tried these for a time and 
paired them to my pc, but I could not get it to switch.
I also noticed that it did not automatically reconnect when pc resumed from 
standby.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

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airpods pro and automatic switch to iphone when paired with pc

[Shai]

Hello,
Is there a means to have airpods pro automatically switch from a pc
running Windows10 to iphone when say a call comes in? I tried these
for a time and paired them to my pc, but I could not get it to switch.
I also noticed that it did not automatically reconnect when pc resumed
from standby.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

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RE: Return to app seems to be no longer present within app iOS 13.2.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would report this to Apple Accessibility as a bug, just as it was very 
difficult to even locate the status bar, this should be easier and in fact I 
wish they would make it so the scrub gesture performed this function if 
available.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Return to app seems to be no longer present within app iOS 13.2.2

Hello Mark,
Thank you for your reply. Do you have a suggestion as to how one would go about 
locating this button that has worked for you?
 Thank you in advance.

On 11/10/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Shai,
>
> I know exactly what you mean and I can tell you that those buttons are 
> still there.  I, too, am using an 8 Plus with the latest version of iOS.
>
> Admittedly, the buttons are a little more difficult to locate but, be 
> that as it may, they are there.
>
> It's funny that you posted this message because I just used the return 
> to Siri and the return to Twitter buttons less than 5 minutes ago.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Shai
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Return to app seems to be no longer present within app iOS 
> 13.2.2
>
> Hello,
> When double tapping on a link in an email message using VoiceOver in
> iOS 13.2.2 on iPhone8+,   I notice that I am not able to locate the
> return to mail button until I press the home button. This is in the 
> Safari browser with the phone in portrait orientation. I also noticed 
> that when I double  tapped on a link in the native Twitter app that I 
> could not locate the return to Twitter button. When I pressed the home 
> button, I heard VoiceOver announce return to Twitter. Has anyone else 
> noticed this and have a solution? When I place a finger at the left 
> hand edge of the screen where it would normally be, I see a button 
> that says format options.
> Thank you in advance for any responses.
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RE: Bluetooth headphones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You toggle between Bluetooth and the USB Dongle with a slider switch which has 
3 positions. At the very bottom it is off, one click up (in the middle) they 
are on Bluetooth and if you push it all the way up they use the USB Dongle.
Apart from the relatively poor battery life I have 2 more complaints about 
these headsets:
1. That slider switch is cheap and I find they could have used a nicer switch 
or simply have an on/off switch and then used a button to toggle between 
Bluetooth and USB.
2. They have no auto-off functionality and with only 6 or so hours of audio 
playback, you better not forget to turn them off manually if you walk away for 
a couple of h ours or you'll come back to a dead battery.
I know Ed says he has 3 of these and I guess even having 2 would be OK if you 
use them a lot, as soon as the battery is low on one you could plug it in and 
use the other.
But given their size I don't think it would be a problem for Logitech to put in 
a battery which provides 18 or 20 hours of playback time.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones

Yes, you got my attention when you mentioned they fit comfortably over your 
hearing aids. Can you easily toggle between VO iPhone and your work computer?
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones

Hi,
They are not the big over the ear cup style. The pad on the side of them is 
about 3 inches around and they sit on top of the ear. Yes you can hear other 
things around. I like this style because they sit on top of my hearing aids and 
they are very light weight. When you have them on you don't even know you have 
them on.
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones

Hello Ed,
Can you hear outside sounds while listening to VO or music? Also, Are they the 
big over the ear cup style?
Best,
Terri Hedgpeths

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones

Hi Richard,
If you have any questions on these H800 please feel free to email me and I can 
give you my phone number to explain anything about them. May I asked what you 
payed for them from Best Buy. I Amazon they were $60 and on Ebay they were $49.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones

Marie,
Thanks for the instructions.
That will save me some time with trying to scan or find the manual online.
 They claim a frequency range of 31 to 15,000 hertz  .
That should be fine for most music unless it has orchestra then you will likely 
miss out on the high frequencies.

Personally, I'm mostly interested in them for books, Email, etc.
I have really good wired headphones for music listening, so I'm hoping these 
will do the trick for me.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth headphones

These do go over the head and are quite comfortable. The sound is decent but in 
my opinion, not the best for music. But you can use the USB dongle for use with 
the computer and have it paired via

blue tooth to your iPhone. If you are on the computer and your phone rings, you 
just slide the switch from USB to BT. A little heads up, the dongle is inside 
the cover on the left earpiece.
Here are some really good instruction I got from Mike B:

Device selection switch, located at the rear of the right ear piece.
When you have the headset on, the device selection switch on the right ear can 
be slid to its bottom setting for off, the middle setting for Bluetooth, and 
the top setting for RF with the dongle / receiver plugged into the computer.

Volume up, located at 12:00 on the face of the right ear piece.

Volume down, located at 6:00 on the face of the right ear piece.

Microphone mute, located at 9:00 on the face of the right ear piece.
The mute button mutes all sound input to the headset when playing music.
The mute button mutes the boom microphone when on the phone.

Play/pause or Answer call/end call, located at 3:00 on the face of the right 
ear piece.

Next track/Fast Forward, located at the bottom of the right ear piece between 
the USB port and the power/device selection switch.
Press the button down towards the charging port for, Next Track / Fast Forward.

RE: Bluetooth headphones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

While I agree they are fairly comfortable, I wouldn't go as far as to say you 
don't know you have them on. They are still a reasonably large headset with a 
broad band over the top of your head and I certainly have no problems telling 
whether I have them or not. But we have to be patient with Ed, he is pretty 
old, probably getting a bit senile so I don't blame him for forgetting that he 
is wearing a headset 藍



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones



Hi,

They are not the big over the ear cup style. The pad on the side of them is 
about 3 inches around and they sit on top of the ear. Yes you can hear other 
things around. I like this style because they sit on top of my hearing aids and 
they are very light weight. When you have them on you don't even know you have 
them on.

Mr. Ed



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 8:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones



Hello Ed,

Can you hear outside sounds while listening to VO or music? Also, Are they the 
big over the ear cup style?

Best,

Terri Hedgpeths



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed

Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:44 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones



Hi Richard,

If you have any questions on these H800 please feel free to email me and I can 
give you my phone number to explain anything about them. May I asked what you 
payed for them from Best Buy. I Amazon they were $60 and on Ebay they were $49.

Mr. Ed



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 5:30 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones



Marie,

Thanks for the instructions.

That will save me some time with trying to scan or find the manual online.

They claim a frequency range of 31 to 15,000 hertz  .

That should be fine for most music unless it has orchestra then you will likely 
miss out on the high frequencies.



Personally, I'm mostly interested in them for books, Email, etc.

I have really good wired headphones for music listening, so I'm hoping these 
will do the trick for me.



Richard



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie

Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 3:22 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Bluetooth headphones



These do go over the head and are quite comfortable. The sound is decent but in 
my opinion, not the best for music. But you can use the USB dongle for use with 
the computer and have it paired via



blue tooth to your iPhone. If you are on the computer and your phone rings, you 
just slide the switch from USB to BT. A little heads up, the dongle is inside 
the cover on the left earpiece.

Here are some really good instruction I got from Mike B:



Device selection switch, located at the rear of the right ear piece.

When you have the headset on, the device selection switch on the right ear can 
be slid to its bottom setting for off, the middle setting for Bluetooth, and 
the top setting for RF with the dongle / receiver plugged into the computer.



Volume up, located at 12:00 on the face of the right ear piece.



Volume down, located at 6:00 on the face of the right ear piece.



Microphone mute, located at 9:00 on the face of the right ear piece.

The mute button mutes all sound input to the headset when playing music.

The mute button mutes the boom microphone when on the phone.



Play/pause or Answer call/end call, located at 3:00 on the face of the right 
ear piece.



Next track/Fast Forward, located at the bottom of the right ear piece between 
the USB port and the power/device selection switch.

Press the button down towards the charging port for, Next Track / Fast Forward.



Previous track/Rewind, located at the bottom of the right ear piece between the 
USB port and the power/device selection switch.

Press the button up towards the device selection switch for, Previous Track / 
Rewind.



To put into pairing mode:

press the next toggle button on the bottom and the volume up button at the same 
time for around 7 seconds. On an I device be in BT setting and you will see the 
headset so double tap on it and it should pair easily.

HTH, Marie





-Original Message-

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 2:21 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Bluetooth headphones



My wife did a search and Wal-Mart showed up as carrying them.

I've ordered them from Best buy and will be picking them up later today, 
hopefully.



They sound like they are over the head, not around the back of the neck, but 
I'll know more when I have them in my 

Re: Return to app seems to be no longer present within app iOS 13.2.2

[Shai]

Hello Mark,
Thank you for your reply. Do you have a suggestion as to how one would
go about locating this button that has worked for you?
 Thank you in advance.

On 11/10/19, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Shai,
>
> I know exactly what you mean and I can tell you that those buttons are still
> there.  I, too, am using an 8 Plus with the latest version of iOS.
>
> Admittedly, the buttons are a little more difficult to locate but, be that
> as it may, they are there.
>
> It's funny that you posted this message because I just used the return to
> Siri and the return to Twitter buttons less than 5 minutes ago.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Shai
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Return to app seems to be no longer present within app iOS 13.2.2
>
> Hello,
> When double tapping on a link in an email message using VoiceOver in
> iOS 13.2.2 on iPhone8+,   I notice that I am not able to locate the
> return to mail button until I press the home button. This is in the
> Safari browser with the phone in portrait orientation. I also noticed
> that when I double  tapped on a link in the native Twitter app that I
> could not locate the return to Twitter button. When I pressed the home
> button, I heard VoiceOver announce return to Twitter. Has anyone else
> noticed this and have a solution? When I place a finger at the left
> hand edge of the screen where it would normally be, I see a button
> that says format options.
> Thank you in advance for any responses.
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RE: Return to app seems to be no longer present within app iOS 13.2.2

[M. Taylor]

Hello Shai,

I know exactly what you mean and I can tell you that those buttons are still 
there.  I, too, am using an 8 Plus with the latest version of iOS.

Admittedly, the buttons are a little more difficult to locate but, be that as 
it may, they are there.

It's funny that you posted this message because I just used the return to Siri 
and the return to Twitter buttons less than 5 minutes ago.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shai
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Return to app seems to be no longer present within app iOS 13.2.2

Hello,
When double tapping on a link in an email message using VoiceOver in
iOS 13.2.2 on iPhone8+,   I notice that I am not able to locate the
return to mail button until I press the home button. This is in the
Safari browser with the phone in portrait orientation. I also noticed
that when I double  tapped on a link in the native Twitter app that I
could not locate the return to Twitter button. When I pressed the home
button, I heard VoiceOver announce return to Twitter. Has anyone else
noticed this and have a solution? When I place a finger at the left
hand edge of the screen where it would normally be, I see a button
that says format options.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

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Return to app seems to be no longer present within app iOS 13.2.2

[Shai]

Hello,
When double tapping on a link in an email message using VoiceOver in
iOS 13.2.2 on iPhone8+,   I notice that I am not able to locate the
return to mail button until I press the home button. This is in the
Safari browser with the phone in portrait orientation. I also noticed
that when I double  tapped on a link in the native Twitter app that I
could not locate the return to Twitter button. When I pressed the home
button, I heard VoiceOver announce return to Twitter. Has anyone else
noticed this and have a solution? When I place a finger at the left
hand edge of the screen where it would normally be, I see a button
that says format options.
Thank you in advance for any responses.

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Re: how buggy does iOS 13.2 remain?

[Robin]

Oh WOW!! Worse than Apple's iOS8

For Me:
Can't really Say at "This  Point" because I 
haven't explored it yet, but I  will on  My NEW iPhone11PRO

&
I'll leave  My iPhoneXS MAX on iOS12.4.1
At 05:25 AM 11/7/2019, you wrote:
iOS 13 is by far the worst update to Apple 
software I've ever seen. I wish I had stuck with 
iOS 11—there were some minor annoyances but it 
bassically worked. And, because I have to 
download updates over public wi-fi since I don't 
have it at home, getting whatever the non-buggy 
version is will take forever. It's clear that 
Apple is moving away from accessibility as a 
major concern and into other areas. I hope other 
phones become more accessible so there are better choices eventually.


> On Nov 6, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Lynn White  wrote:
>
> Hi, I agree.
>
> First thing I have noticed is that 
notifications continue to repeat and I get 
stuck in the notification and have to flick 
away from it.  It doesn’t matter what the app 
is that sends the notification.  It repeats and 
repeats until I can flick away from it.

>
> The other is a new issue.  My default voice 
is Alex.  But when I perform a triple click, 
Samantha is the voice and I have to go into settings and go back to Alex.

>
> And, of course, there is the mailbox.  But 
Apple supposedly knows about this.  The focus 
issues really aren’t fix.  Maybe slightly 
better.  But it is definitely buggy still.

>
> Having said all this, version 13 is not a 
show stopper.  Of course, you have to had 
version 13 with the iPhone 11 which I really like.

>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 6, 2019, at 6:20 PM, 'Kramlinger, 
Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  wrote:

>>
>> hi, I have updated to iOS 13.2. This 
certainly is somewhat better than earlier 
versions of iOS 13, but it seems to me that 
there are still lots of problems with it. Do 
others agree? I haven’t been on the list much 
recently due to a heavy work load, so please 
forgive if this has been well covered.

>> Best, Keith
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Re: can you only change the speech rate in voicedream reader by increments of 20?

[Richard Turner]

Open your document.
Double tap on Audio settings at the top.
Speech rate, document specific,.
After the number, you have two buttons, decrement and increment.
Those move by 5 words per minute.
HTH,




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On Nov 10, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Hi to all.  I've been playing with the reading of Ebooks in VDR and
checking out a couple of the new voices I recently purchased.  When
listening to an Ebook and going into the audio settings and to speech
rate, I can only increase or decrease the speech rate by 20.  Say
something like 155, 175, 195 and so on
.  Is there anyway to increase or decrease by say five.  Say from
155-160.  Thanks for any help.
--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Dave, 
Wow, I can't tell you enough just how dumb I feel right now!  Smile!  I wonder 
where my head is sometimes!  LOL!  Ok, I just felt the mic and the lightening 
port.  This might explain why sometimes I am talking on the phone, and some 
people keep saying Janet, I can't hardly hear you, and this might be because my 
little finger is too close to the mic!  Thank you so much for your help and 
understanding.  It is greatly appreciated as always!  
Janet 

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Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

The Mic, is the microphone, which you use for speaking into, when you make a 
phone call, or making recordings.

The lightning port, is between the microphone, and the bottom speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Anna,
Ok when you say a speaker and mic on the bottom and front of the phone, do 
you mean a speaker and a mic between the charging port? What is the mic for? 
On my xr phone, I don't have anything on the bottom in the front of the 
phone, only between the charging port at the edge of the bottom of the 
phone.
Janet

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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet and all,

If the 10R is like earlier phones, there's a speaker and a mic on the bottom 
in front. I think it's that speaker and the earpiece speaker that produce 
stereo sound.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:27 PM, janet gross  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department 
> told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with 
> hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know 
> why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when 
> playing music, but I will now do it.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could 
> not
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
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> janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr 
> phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
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can you only change the speech rate in voicedream reader by increments of 20?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I've been playing with the reading of Ebooks in VDR and
checking out a couple of the new voices I recently purchased.  When
listening to an Ebook and going into the audio settings and to speech
rate, I can only increase or decrease the speech rate by 20.  Say
something like 155, 175, 195 and so on
.  Is there anyway to increase or decrease by say five.  Say from
155-160.  Thanks for any help.
-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Richard Turner]

Well Kelby,
No your email where you used the em dash did not speak it as to the power of.
I suspect we are dealing with a contextual issue.
When you run across it in a book again, I'd be interested to know where in 
which book.
I'm fairly sure we are dealing with an overall change from Apple/Nuance.




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On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:52 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:


Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain em 
dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there.

On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Good fine Alan.
That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue.
I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of.
I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing 
them differently.


I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did not 
say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store.
Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US 
English, no to the power of.
So, it is only with US voices.
I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well.

Richard
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On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Kelby and Richard,

I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an 
iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" 
pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, 
when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a 
superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I 
would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is 
pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of 
quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in 
VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however.


On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there 
was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the 
place to start is with Apple.
The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who 
knows.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, I 
wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems 
in the future releases of iOS.
Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? 
Just curious.

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.

For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word 
exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like 
this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.

Very strange!

Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

OK, good to know.
Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?

I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an 

RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Dave, 
Yes, I agree with you when you say that shouldn't be the case, but what other 
reason why they would say that top front speaker is only for when talking on 
the phone.   

Janet 
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Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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That shouldn't be the case. As the speakers are the same for sighted users 
too, if they wish to listen to music in stereo, on their phone, without a 
headset.

Dave.


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From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
Oh yeah, I know what you mean about how much the reps know about the 
products they sell.  Although, I have to admit I am quite surprised 
especially both reps had xr phones the same as I do.  Matter of fact, the 
Apple rep at the store yesterday, didn't even check the ear piece speaker! 
I'm just wondering if it is because maybe they aren't using voice over, so 
they just really don't know voice over and other come through the front ear 
speaker.  Well, I finally turned on my phone, and listened to voice over and 
some music, and low in behold, I did hear voice over and the music I was 
playing coming from the bottom of the phone, as well as from the front ear 
speaker on the top of the phone, so now, I know for myself!  I can't believe 
I never thought of something this simple!  LOL!  I'm losing it!
Thank you Thank you!

Janet

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
actually know, regarding the products they sell.

But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
playing music, but I will now do it.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not
achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

Peace Be With You.




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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Dave, 
I don't find any speaker button when listening to Apple music.  
Janet 

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Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

It may depend, on how you have your audio routed.

Try looking for the speaker button, when you are playing some music, and see 
how it sounds.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi lenron,
I am just wondering if both the reps said what they said about the speakers, 
because they probably don't use voice over, but they both claim they listen 
to Apple music.  I think it just goes to show a lot of those Apple reps 
really don't know enough about voice over!  I probably should search online 
how to clean the front ear speaker, because the rep at the Apple store 
didn't do anything to it, and maybe that should be cleaned as well.  If the 
bottom speaker can get dust in it, I would think the front ear speaker could 
also get dust in it!  The Apple store rep said it probably got dusty from 
putting it in my purse and removing it, and after a year, I guess it can 
happen, but if it happened to the bottom speaker, it can happen to the front 
speaker!
Janet
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of lenron brown
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

They lied both speakers on the phone allow you to here audio from
music. Good grief what is up with some of these employees these days.

On 11/10/19, Dave  wrote:
> Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
> actually know, regarding the products they sell.
>
> But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Dave,
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
> told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
> hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
> why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
> playing music, but I will now do it.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could 
> not
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr 
> phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
>
>
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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Wayne, 
Thank you for this.  I did cover the bottom left speaker, and I still hear 
music from the top speaker, but when I cover the top speaker, I still hear from 
it, so I guess that's ok!  
Janet  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

There should be 2 speakers on the XR, one at the bottom of the phone
near the charging port, and one at the top of the phone near the
handset/speaker. I know you know that the one where you hold the phone
near your ear, but this also acts as an external speaker. You can test
it by completely covering the bottom speaker when music or other audio
is playing, and see if you still hear the audio. On my XR the bottom
speaker is more powerful, but I still get quite a bit of sound from
the other speaker when I cover the bottom one.

Hth,
Wayne

On 11/10/19, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[kelby carlson]

Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain em 
dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there.

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Good fine Alan.
> That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue.
> I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of.
> I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing 
> them differently.
> 
>  
> I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did 
> not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store.
> Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US 
> English, no to the power of.
> So, it is only with US voices.
> I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well.
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Kelby and Richard,
>>  
>> I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an 
>> iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power 
>> of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. 
>> However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the 
>> capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that 
>> pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to 
>> the power of 1 also works.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of kelby carlson
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>>  
>> The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is 
>> pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of 
>> quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in 
>> VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however.
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if 
>> there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I 
>> think the place to start is with Apple.
>> The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so 
>> who knows.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  Live long and prosper
>>  
>>  
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
>> Ali
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>>  
>> Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, I 
>> wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these 
>> problems in the future releases of iOS.
>> Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? 
>> Just curious.
>> 
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Cris
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>>  
>> I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
>> reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.
>>  
>> For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
>> what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the 
>> word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It 
>> wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.
>>  
>> Very strange!
>>  
>> Debby
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>>  
>> OK, good to know.
>> Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?
>>  
>> I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
>> female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  Live long and prosper
>>  
>>  
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
>> carlson
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>>  
>> Richard,
>>  
>> Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
>> punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
>> VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. 
>>  
>> 
>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream 

Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Wayne Merritt]

There should be 2 speakers on the XR, one at the bottom of the phone
near the charging port, and one at the top of the phone near the
handset/speaker. I know you know that the one where you hold the phone
near your ear, but this also acts as an external speaker. You can test
it by completely covering the bottom speaker when music or other audio
is playing, and see if you still hear the audio. On my XR the bottom
speaker is more powerful, but I still get quite a bit of sound from
the other speaker when I cover the bottom one.

Hth,
Wayne

On 11/10/19, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
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Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Dave]

It may depend, on how you have your audio routed.

Try looking for the speaker button, when you are playing some music, and see 
how it sounds.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi lenron,
I am just wondering if both the reps said what they said about the speakers, 
because they probably don't use voice over, but they both claim they listen 
to Apple music.  I think it just goes to show a lot of those Apple reps 
really don't know enough about voice over!  I probably should search online 
how to clean the front ear speaker, because the rep at the Apple store 
didn't do anything to it, and maybe that should be cleaned as well.  If the 
bottom speaker can get dust in it, I would think the front ear speaker could 
also get dust in it!  The Apple store rep said it probably got dusty from 
putting it in my purse and removing it, and after a year, I guess it can 
happen, but if it happened to the bottom speaker, it can happen to the front 
speaker!

Janet
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of lenron brown

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

They lied both speakers on the phone allow you to here audio from
music. Good grief what is up with some of these employees these days.

On 11/10/19, Dave  wrote:

Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
actually know, regarding the products they sell.

But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
playing music, but I will now do it.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could 
not

achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr 
phone?

I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Dave]

That shouldn't be the case. As the speakers are the same for sighted users 
too, if they wish to listen to music in stereo, on their phone, without a 
headset.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
Oh yeah, I know what you mean about how much the reps know about the 
products they sell.  Although, I have to admit I am quite surprised 
especially both reps had xr phones the same as I do.  Matter of fact, the 
Apple rep at the store yesterday, didn't even check the ear piece speaker! 
I'm just wondering if it is because maybe they aren't using voice over, so 
they just really don't know voice over and other come through the front ear 
speaker.  Well, I finally turned on my phone, and listened to voice over and 
some music, and low in behold, I did hear voice over and the music I was 
playing coming from the bottom of the phone, as well as from the front ear 
speaker on the top of the phone, so now, I know for myself!  I can't believe 
I never thought of something this simple!  LOL!  I'm losing it!

Thank you Thank you!

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
actually know, regarding the products they sell.

But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
playing music, but I will now do it.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not
achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Dave]

The Mic, is the microphone, which you use for speaking into, when you make a 
phone call, or making recordings.


The lightning port, is between the microphone, and the bottom speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Anna,
Ok when you say a speaker and mic on the bottom and front of the phone, do 
you mean a speaker and a mic between the charging port? What is the mic for? 
On my xr phone, I don't have anything on the bottom in the front of the 
phone, only between the charging port at the edge of the bottom of the 
phone.

Janet

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Anna Dresner

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:30 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet and all,

If the 10R is like earlier phones, there's a speaker and a mic on the bottom 
in front. I think it's that speaker and the earpiece speaker that produce 
stereo sound.


Best,
Anna




On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:27 PM, janet gross  
wrote:


Hi Dave,
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department 
told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with 
hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know 
why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when 
playing music, but I will now do it.

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could 
not

achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet

gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr 
phone?

I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Richard Turner]

Good fine Alan.
That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue.
I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of.
I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing 
them differently.


I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did not 
say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store.
Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US 
English, no to the power of.
So, it is only with US voices.
I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well.

Richard
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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Kelby and Richard,

I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an 
iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" 
pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, 
when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a 
superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I 
would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is 
pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of 
quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in 
VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however.


On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there 
was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the 
place to start is with Apple.
The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who 
knows.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, I 
wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems 
in the future releases of iOS.
Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? 
Just curious.

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.

For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word 
exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like 
this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.

Very strange!

Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

OK, good to know.
Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?

I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Richard,

Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is 

Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Dave]

Hi Anna. You are correct.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Anna Dresner

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:30 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet and all,

If the 10R is like earlier phones, there's a speaker and a mic on the bottom 
in front. I think it's that speaker and the earpiece speaker that produce 
stereo sound.


Best,
Anna




On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:27 PM, janet gross  
wrote:


Hi Dave,
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department 
told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with 
hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know 
why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when 
playing music, but I will now do it.

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could 
not

achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet

gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr 
phone?

I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[territek]

Oh, a couple other differences between the second gen Airpods and the Airpods 
Pro in the comparison I read on Amazon is that the prose have the mic in the 
ear as well as outside, and you can switch between noise cancelling and 
listening to outside sounds such as coworkers. Being able to switch between the 
two is a huge plus for work. The Bose frames also provide ability to listen to 
sounds near-by, but the down side for the Frames is you don't get any warning 
that the battery is low, it just plays a few brief beeps and shuts off. That is 
a problem if you are on a conference call or Zoom meeting for work.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth


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Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

As far as I know they use the same chip as in second gen Airpods, mostly the 
difference is that this Pro model has active noise cancellation and it is an 
in-ear design with 3 different silicon tips to fit inside your ear.
Apple makes this 3-silicon tip design/fit sound like the reinvention of the 
wheel except of course every half decent in-ear headset has done this for 10 
years or more


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yohandy 
Rodriguez
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

Does anyone know if the audio delay is less compared to version 1? I know 
second gen have less delay, but not sure about pros. I actually still have 
first generation!




On 11/4/2019 1:19 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed 
> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some 
> getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio 
> such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you ducking 
> under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you only 
> lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. You get 
> the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to be much 
> more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them for a 
> lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different silicone 
> ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better then the 
> original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so there is 
> very little or even no lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what is spoken 
> are in pretty good sync.
>
> So far I really like them a lot.
>
> Ed W.
>   
>
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are 
>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the 
>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really 
>> goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few 
>> hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Maria Reyes
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>> October 30
>>
>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery 
>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain 
>>> amount.
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro 
>>> do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
>>> of lenron brown 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, 
>>> available October 30
>>>
>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the 
>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair 
>>> of the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then 
>>> again the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing.
>>> Anyways if the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are 
>>> not all that useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 
>>> hours.
>>>
>>> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
 again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and 
 the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, 
 the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to 
 medium hearing 

Does anyone have experience with iExplorer?

[Marcia Yale]

I have a bunch of podcasts saved on my iPhone and was told that iExplorer
would give me access to the files so I could move them to, say, either
DropBox or my computer. However, I can't seem to get anything to happen with
it and the only information I can get from it comes from the menus. If
anyone has successfully used it, I'd be grateful for assistance. On the
other hand, if you know of another program which would give me access to
items such as podcasts or books stored on my phone I'd really appreciate the
information. I have tried iExplorer on both my Mac and my PC with the same
negative results.

Marcia Yale
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RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Alan Lemly]

Kelby and Richard,

 

I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an 
iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" 
pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, 
when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a 
superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I 
would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is 
pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of 
quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in 
VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however.





On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there 
was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the 
place to start is with Apple.

The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who 
knows.

 

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:   www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, I 
wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems 
in the future releases of iOS.

Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? 
Just curious.


Regards,

 

Cris

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.

 

For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word 
exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like 
this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.

 

Very strange!

 

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

OK, good to know.

Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?

 

I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?

 

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:  

 www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

Richard,

 

Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. 

 

On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.

It is anywhere using US English voices.

I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.

 

This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:  

 www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.

 

On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Kelby,

 

I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was 

RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi lenron, 
I am just wondering if both the reps said what they said about the speakers, 
because they probably don't use voice over, but they both claim they listen to 
Apple music.  I think it just goes to show a lot of those Apple reps really 
don't know enough about voice over!  I probably should search online how to 
clean the front ear speaker, because the rep at the Apple store didn't do 
anything to it, and maybe that should be cleaned as well.  If the bottom 
speaker can get dust in it, I would think the front ear speaker could also get 
dust in it!  The Apple store rep said it probably got dusty from putting it in 
my purse and removing it, and after a year, I guess it can happen, but if it 
happened to the bottom speaker, it can happen to the front speaker!  
Janet 
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

They lied both speakers on the phone allow you to here audio from
music. Good grief what is up with some of these employees these days.

On 11/10/19, Dave  wrote:
> Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
> actually know, regarding the products they sell.
>
> But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Dave,
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
> told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
> hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
> why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
> playing music, but I will now do it.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
>
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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

HI Dave, 
I can't help but laugh at myself.  I didn't even know there was a microphone on 
my phone!  Smile!  Oh ok, now I got it thanks to your explanation.
Thank you Thank you.  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

I think, our Emails, maybe crossing. lol.

So, i will clear it up again.

At the bottom left of the phone, is the microphone.

The bottom right, is one of the speakers.

If you have the phone in landscape mode. Then the earpiece, becomes the 
second of the stereo speakers.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Cristóbal,

Thank you, as I just found this out now!  LOL!
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[kelby carlson]

The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is 
pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of 
quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in 
VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however.

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if 
> there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think 
> the place to start is with Apple.
> The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so 
> who knows.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, I 
> wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these 
> problems in the future releases of iOS.
> Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? 
> Just curious.
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
> reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.
>  
> For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
> what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the 
> word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It 
> wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.
>  
> Very strange!
>  
> Debby
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> OK, good to know.
> Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?
>  
> I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
> female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
> carlson
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> Richard,
>  
> Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
> punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
> VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. 
>  
> 
> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
> It is anywhere using US English voices.
> I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
> pronounced g u n.
>  
> This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
> carlson
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
> Winston can get to the bottom of it.
>  
> 
> On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kelby,
>  
> I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
> Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
> what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
> words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
> problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
> absence of the offending punctuation in that section.
>  
> Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kelby carlson
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
> punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
> quotation marks and hyphens.
>  
> 
> On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
> VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English 
> voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
> I just 

RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Dave, 
Oh yeah, I know what you mean about how much the reps know about the products 
they sell.  Although, I have to admit I am quite surprised especially both reps 
had xr phones the same as I do.  Matter of fact, the Apple rep at the store 
yesterday, didn't even check the ear piece speaker!  I'm just wondering if it 
is because maybe they aren't using voice over, so they just really don't know 
voice over and other come through the front ear speaker.  Well, I finally 
turned on my phone, and listened to voice over and some music, and low in 
behold, I did hear voice over and the music I was playing coming from the 
bottom of the phone, as well as from the front ear speaker on the top of the 
phone, so now, I know for myself!  I can't believe I never thought of something 
this simple!  LOL!  I'm losing it!  
Thank you Thank you!  

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps 
actually know, regarding the products they sell.

But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department 
told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with 
hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know 
why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when 
playing music, but I will now do it.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not
achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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Re: AirPods Pro Charger

[Brandon Olivares]

Oh if it has USB-C, that’d work with my MacBook Pro right? I have the newer 
model with the USB-C ports. Thanks!

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Airpods pro do come with a lightening cable that can also be plugged into 
> your iPad Pro with USBC cable. However, I just use my cable that came with my 
> XR. It charges just fine.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:41 PM, Brandon Olivares  
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>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m about to order the AirPods Pro. However I saw a review on Amazon that 
>> said the charger is different and if you don’t have an iPhone 11, you need 
>> some special connector or something to plug in the charger. Is this true, 
>> and if so where can I get it?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: AirPods Pro Charger

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

The Airpods pro do come with a lightening cable that can also be plugged into 
your iPad Pro with USBC cable. However, I just use my cable that came with my 
XR. It charges just fine.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi
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> I’m about to order the AirPods Pro. However I saw a review on Amazon that 
> said the charger is different and if you don’t have an iPhone 11, you need 
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> if so where can I get it?
> 
> Thanks,
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AirPods Pro Charger

[Brandon Olivares]

Hi,

I’m about to order the AirPods Pro. However I saw a review on Amazon that said 
the charger is different and if you don’t have an iPhone 11, you need some 
special connector or something to plug in the charger. Is this true, and if so 
where can I get it?

Thanks,
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Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Dave]

I think, our Emails, maybe crossing. lol.

So, i will clear it up again.

At the bottom left of the phone, is the microphone.

The bottom right, is one of the speakers.

If you have the phone in landscape mode. Then the earpiece, becomes the 
second of the stereo speakers.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Cristóbal,

Thank you, as I just found this out now!  LOL!
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[lenron brown]

They lied both speakers on the phone allow you to here audio from
music. Good grief what is up with some of these employees these days.

On 11/10/19, Dave  wrote:
> Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps
> actually know, regarding the products they sell.
>
> But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Dave,
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department
> told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with
> hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know
> why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when
> playing music, but I will now do it.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
>
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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Anna, 
Ok when you say a speaker and mic on the bottom and front of the phone, do you 
mean a speaker and a mic between the charging port? What is the mic for?  On my 
xr phone, I don't have anything on the bottom in the front of the phone, only 
between the charging port at the edge of the bottom of the phone.
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:30 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Janet and all,

If the 10R is like earlier phones, there's a speaker and a mic on the bottom in 
front. I think it's that speaker and the earpiece speaker that produce stereo 
sound.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:27 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave, 
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department told 
> me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with hearing 
> voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know why, but I 
> never even thought about listening to the front speaker when playing music, 
> but I will now do it.  
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
> 
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not 
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
> 
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
> 
> Peace Be With You.
> 
> 
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Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Dave]

Hi Janet. It just shows, how much some of the customer services reps 
actually know, regarding the products they sell.


But there is loads of info regarding this, on the net, and youtube.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: janet gross

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Dave,
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department 
told me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with 
hearing voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know 
why, but I never even thought about listening to the front speaker when 
playing music, but I will now do it.

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not
achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Cristóbal,   
 
Thank you, as I just found this out now!  LOL!  
Janet 

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Cristóbal Muñoz
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Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone. 

Cristóbal

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gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone, 
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.  
Thank you all.  
Janet

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Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Janet and all,

If the 10R is like earlier phones, there's a speaker and a mic on the bottom in 
front. I think it's that speaker and the earpiece speaker that produce stereo 
sound.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:27 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave, 
> The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department told 
> me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with hearing 
> voice over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know why, but I 
> never even thought about listening to the front speaker when playing music, 
> but I will now do it.  
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dave
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
> 
> No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not 
> achieve this, with just 1 speaker.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
> 
> Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
> gross
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
> I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
> listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
> on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
> Thank you all.
> Janet
> 
> Peace Be With You.
> 
> 
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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Dave, 
The rep at the Apple store and the rep from the accessibility department told 
me that speaker on the front of the phone has nothing to do with hearing voice 
over or music, just for talking on the phone.  I don't know why, but I never 
even thought about listening to the front speaker when playing music, but I 
will now do it.  
Janet 

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Dave
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not 
achieve this, with just 1 speaker.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

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gross
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To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

Peace Be With You.




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Re: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Dave]

No. The earpiece, is also a speaker. The phone is stereo, and you could not 
achieve this, with just 1 speaker.


Dave.


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From: Cristóbal Muñoz

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Subject: RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone.

Cristóbal

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To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.
Thank you all.
Janet

Peace Be With You.




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RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Richard Turner]

It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there 
was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the 
place to start is with Apple.
The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who 
knows.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, I 
wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems 
in the future releases of iOS.
Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? 
Just curious.

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.

For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word 
exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like 
this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.

Very strange!

Debby
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

OK, good to know.
Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?

I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?



Richard

 Live long and prosper


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Richard,

Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet..

On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
It is anywhere using US English voices.
I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.

This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.

On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kelby,

I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
absence of the offending punctuation in that section.

Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain 

RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Alan Lemly]

Richard,

 

I can confirm I'm getting the same results for the pronunciation of gun that 
you just described. I wasn't in Voice Dream when Samantha enhanced spelled g u 
n for its pronunciation on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.2.2.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.

It is anywhere using US English voices.

I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.

 

This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:   www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.

 

On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Kelby,

 

I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
absence of the offending punctuation in that section.

 

Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
quotation marks and hyphens.





On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices 
say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. 

I just did that and now gun is said correctly.

This for sure started with iOS 13.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:

Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate 
letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.  

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RE: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Just one speaker on the bottom of the phone. 

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:01 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

Hi Everyone, 
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone?
I know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to
listen when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers
on the bottom of the phone between the charging port.  
Thank you all.  
Janet

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Speakers On An Xr iPhone Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone, 
Can someone please tell me just how many speakers there are on an xr phone? I 
know all about the speaker on the front of the phone I hold to my ear to listen 
when I am on the phone, but what I am talking about is the speakers on the 
bottom of the phone between the charging port.  
Thank you all.  
Janet

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RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Cris Ali]

Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, I 
wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems 
in the future releases of iOS.
Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? 
Just curious.

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.

For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word 
exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like 
this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.

Very strange!

Debby
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

OK, good to know.
Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?

I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Richard,

Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet..

On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
It is anywhere using US English voices.
I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.

This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.

On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kelby,

I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
absence of the offending punctuation in that section.

Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
quotation marks and hyphens.


On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices 
say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
I just did that and now gun is said correctly.
This for sure started with iOS 13.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate 
letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.

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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

['Gail Selfridge' via VIPhone]

 I think this pronunciation thing has to do with what voice you are using 
because using the Alex voice I am not having nearly as many problems as you 
guys are. Gun is pronounced correctly and object is being pronounced correctly. 
I have a little problem with this months but it is not really that consistent 
and I don’t use the date that much.

Gail

Sent from Gail’s iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:41 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 


Also, the word Object is being pronounced like what lawyers do during a trial, 
rather than like pointing at an object.  This is also new in iOS 13.2.x.
I’ve written Apple Accessibility, but received no reply.
Perhaps everyone should write them about these odd pronunciation changes.
 
 
 
Richard
 
 Live long and prosper
 
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
 
I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.
 
For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word 
exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like 
this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.
 
Very strange!
 
Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
 
OK, good to know.
Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?
 
I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?
 
 
 
Richard
 
 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
 
Richard,
 
Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. 
 

On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
It is anywhere using US English voices.
I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.
 
This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.
 
Richard
 
 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
 
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carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
 
It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.
 

On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Kelby,
 
I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
absence of the offending punctuation in that section.
 
Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.
 
Alan Lemly
 
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kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
 
Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
quotation marks and hyphens.



On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices 
say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
I just did that and now gun is said correctly.
This for sure started with iOS 13.
 

 
 
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
 



On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:

Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate 
letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.  

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RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Richard Turner]

Also, the word Object is being pronounced like what lawyers do during a trial, 
rather than like pointing at an object.  This is also new in iOS 13.2.x.
I’ve written Apple Accessibility, but received no reply.
Perhaps everyone should write them about these odd pronunciation changes.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.

For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word 
exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like 
this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.

Very strange!

Debby
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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

OK, good to know.
Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?

I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Richard,

Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet..

On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
It is anywhere using US English voices.
I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.

This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.

On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kelby,

I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
absence of the offending punctuation in that section.

Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
quotation marks and hyphens.


On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices 
say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
I just did that and now gun is said correctly.
This for sure started with iOS 13.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of 

RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Debby]

I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am 
reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.

 

For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as resume—like 
what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word 
exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like 
this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular.

 

Very strange!

 

Debby

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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

OK, good to know.

Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?

 

I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?

 

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:   www.turner42.com

 

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carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

Richard,

 

Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. 

 

On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.

It is anywhere using US English voices.

I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.

 

This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:  

 www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.





On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:



Kelby,

 

I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
absence of the offending punctuation in that section.

 

Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

 

Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
quotation marks and hyphens.






On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices 
say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. 

I just did that and now gun is said correctly.

This for sure started with iOS 13.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 






On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:

Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate 
letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.  

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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[TaraPrakash]

I can confirm that the offending intrusion of the phrase  to the power off is 
also present when reading certain books and easy dolphin reader. I understand 
it indicates an asterisk or a sign that indicates a footnote or an end note. It 
doesn’t happen with fiction books which do not likely have such symbols 
  

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> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:22 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
> punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
> VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. 
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
>> It is anywhere using US English voices.
>> I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
>> pronounced g u n.
>>  
>> This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  Live long and prosper
>>  
>>  
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
>> carlson
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>>  
>> It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
>> Winston can get to the bottom of it.
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Kelby,
>>  
>> I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
>> Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure 
>> out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since 
>> those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice 
>> Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been 
>> due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section.
>>  
>> Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of kelby carlson
>> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>>  
>> Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces 
>> certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain 
>> types of quotation marks and hyphens.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
>> VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English 
>> voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
>> I just did that and now gun is said correctly.
>> This for sure started with iOS 13.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
>> Wagner
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three 
>> separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.  
>> 
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RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Richard Turner]

OK, good to know.
Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens?

I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British 
female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue?



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Richard,

Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet..


On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
It is anywhere using US English voices.
I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.

This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.



On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kelby,

I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
absence of the offending punctuation in that section.

Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.

Alan Lemly

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
quotation marks and hyphens.




On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices 
say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
I just did that and now gun is said correctly.
This for sure started with iOS 13.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner





On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate 
letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.

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[kelby carlson]

Richard,

Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain 
punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to 
VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. 

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
> It is anywhere using US English voices.
> I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
> pronounced g u n.
>  
> This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
> carlson
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
> Winston can get to the bottom of it.
> 
> 
> On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kelby,
>  
> I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
> Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
> what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
> words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
> problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
> absence of the offending punctuation in that section.
>  
> Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kelby carlson
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
> punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
> quotation marks and hyphens.
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
> VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English 
> voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
> I just did that and now gun is said correctly.
> This for sure started with iOS 13.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate 
> letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.  
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RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Richard Turner]

For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader.
It is anywhere using US English voices.
I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is 
pronounced g u n.

This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.


On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Kelby,

I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
absence of the offending punctuation in that section.

Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
quotation marks and hyphens.



On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices 
say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
I just did that and now gun is said correctly.
This for sure started with iOS 13.



Richard
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On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate 
letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.

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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[kelby carlson]

It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully 
Winston can get to the bottom of it.

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kelby,
>  
> I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream 
> Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out 
> what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those 
> words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the 
> problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the 
> absence of the offending punctuation in that section.
>  
> Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kelby carlson
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
>  
> Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain 
> punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of 
> quotation marks and hyphens.
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the 
> VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English 
> voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's.
> I just did that and now gun is said correctly.
> This for sure started with iOS 13.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate 
> letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it.  
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Re: Question regarding new context menu

[Richard Turner]

below is Siri's attempt at interpreting me dictating "Try a one finger triple 
tap on the icon which you wish to see the context menu for.
Now, here's Siri:
 a wincing purple towel on the item you wish to see the context menu for. So I



Richard
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On Nov 10, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Paul Parravano  wrote:

Hello friends,

I cannot get access to the new context menu feature on the actions rotor. From 
the home  screen, when I flick up or down with one finger, I only can choose 
from activate or edit.

I’m working with an iPhone 8, with IOS 13.2.2

Thanks for any hints or solutions.

Paul

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Question regarding new context menu

[Paul Parravano]

Hello friends,

I cannot get access to the new context menu feature on the actions rotor. From 
the home  screen, when I flick up or down with one finger, I only can choose 
from activate or edit.

I’m working with an iPhone 8, with IOS 13.2.2

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RE: Question about scheduling an event

[Richard Turner]

I think I hit a key that sent my last message before I was finished.
What I was saying that in mine, event has the following options, None, At time 
of event, 5 minutes before, 10 minutes before, 15 minutes before, 30 minutes 
before, 1 hour before, 2 hours before, 1 day before, 2 days before, 1 week 
before.

Double tap on None, and all will be well.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about scheduling an event

I found that earlier, but there is no option to turn them completely off unless 
you mean to just make sure nothing is checked. There is an option to sync which 
can't be turned off either? Does that make a difference?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Question about scheduling an event

When you go to Settings, Calendar, flick right with one finger until you get to 
Default Alerts.
Double tap and you can set default alerts for Birthdays, events, etc.
This is in the main phone settings, not within the Calendar app.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Nov 10, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Thank you, Richard. I can't find anywhere in the native calendar settings to 
turn off default alerts. Any suggestions?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Question about scheduling an event

I believe both the native Calendar and Fantastical have the ability to set a 
default alert time.
Go into the Native Calendar settings and turn off default alerts.
If you are setting up an alert at the time you create the event, then it is 
probably going to show up in both since Fantastical draws from the native 
calendar.
However, you could go into notifications and turn them off for calendar, but 
leave them on for Fantastical.
Reminders and events are treated very similarly.  I’m not sure why one needs to 
use Reminders.
But, if you have Fantastical set up to access your Reminders, you could just 
set up a Reminder via Siri/Reminders app, and it will show up in Fantastical.
I’m fairly sure that is correct, but I’m not by my iPhone right now.
Richard
 Live long and prosper
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:48 PM
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Question about scheduling an event
Good Afternoon,
I have been trying to set up a reminder both through my calendar and 
Fantastical. I finally switched from the Gmail calendar to the home calendar 
and was able to set up the event through Fantastical, but not a reminder.
Well, when the event happened, which is a recurring event, I get an alert from 
both my calendar and Fantastical at the same time. Can I delete it in my 
calendar, which I never set up, and just leave it in Fantastical or will that 
wipe out both of them?
I never could set up the reminder but I'm fairly certain that is an IOS issue 
because it only started after the upgrade.
Thank you.
Vicki
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RE: Question about scheduling an event

[Richard Turner]

Well, on mine, I have these options with each one:
Birthdays, None, on Day of Event,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about scheduling an event

I found that earlier, but there is no option to turn them completely off unless 
you mean to just make sure nothing is checked. There is an option to sync which 
can't be turned off either? Does that make a difference?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Question about scheduling an event

When you go to Settings, Calendar, flick right with one finger until you get to 
Default Alerts.
Double tap and you can set default alerts for Birthdays, events, etc.
This is in the main phone settings, not within the Calendar app.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Nov 10, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Thank you, Richard. I can't find anywhere in the native calendar settings to 
turn off default alerts. Any suggestions?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Question about scheduling an event

I believe both the native Calendar and Fantastical have the ability to set a 
default alert time.
Go into the Native Calendar settings and turn off default alerts.
If you are setting up an alert at the time you create the event, then it is 
probably going to show up in both since Fantastical draws from the native 
calendar.
However, you could go into notifications and turn them off for calendar, but 
leave them on for Fantastical.
Reminders and events are treated very similarly.  I’m not sure why one needs to 
use Reminders.
But, if you have Fantastical set up to access your Reminders, you could just 
set up a Reminder via Siri/Reminders app, and it will show up in Fantastical.
I’m fairly sure that is correct, but I’m not by my iPhone right now.
Richard
 Live long and prosper
Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:48 PM
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Question about scheduling an event
Good Afternoon,
I have been trying to set up a reminder both through my calendar and 
Fantastical. I finally switched from the Gmail calendar to the home calendar 
and was able to set up the event through Fantastical, but not a reminder.
Well, when the event happened, which is a recurring event, I get an alert from 
both my calendar and Fantastical at the same time. Can I delete it in my 
calendar, which I never set up, and just leave it in Fantastical or will that 
wipe out both of them?
I never could set up the reminder but I'm fairly certain that is an IOS issue 
because it only started after the upgrade.
Thank you.
Vicki
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Re: Question about scheduling an event

[Vicki W.]

I found that earlier, but there is no option to turn them completely off unless 
you mean to just make sure nothing is checked. There is an option to sync which 
can't be turned off either? Does that make a difference?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 9:29 AM
  Subject: Re: Question about scheduling an event


  When you go to Settings, Calendar, flick right with one finger until you get 
to Default Alerts.
  Double tap and you can set default alerts for Birthdays, events, etc.
  This is in the main phone settings, not within the Calendar app.
  HTH,








  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner




On Nov 10, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:


 
Thank you, Richard. I can't find anywhere in the native calendar settings 
to turn off default alerts. Any suggestions?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 11:40 AM
  Subject: RE: Question about scheduling an event


  I believe both the native Calendar and Fantastical have the ability to 
set a default alert time.

  Go into the Native Calendar settings and turn off default alerts.



  If you are setting up an alert at the time you create the event, then it 
is probably going to show up in both since Fantastical draws from the native 
calendar.

  However, you could go into notifications and turn them off for calendar, 
but leave them on for Fantastical.



  Reminders and events are treated very similarly.  I’m not sure why one 
needs to use Reminders.

  But, if you have Fantastical set up to access your Reminders, you could 
just set up a Reminder via Siri/Reminders app, and it will show up in 
Fantastical.

  I’m fairly sure that is correct, but I’m not by my iPhone right now.







  Richard



   Live long and prosper





  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
  Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:48 PM
  To: IPhone 
  Subject: Question about scheduling an event



  Good Afternoon,



  I have been trying to set up a reminder both through my calendar and 
Fantastical. I finally switched from the Gmail calendar to the home calendar 
and was able to set up the event through Fantastical, but not a reminder.



  Well, when the event happened, which is a recurring event, I get an alert 
from both my calendar and Fantastical at the same time. Can I delete it in my 
calendar, which I never set up, and just leave it in Fantastical or will that 
wipe out both of them?



  I never could set up the reminder but I'm fairly certain that is an IOS 
issue because it only started after the upgrade.



  Thank you.



  Vicki



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Re: Question about scheduling an event

[Richard Turner]

When you go to Settings, Calendar, flick right with one finger until you get to 
Default Alerts.
Double tap and you can set default alerts for Birthdays, events, etc.
This is in the main phone settings, not within the Calendar app.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 10, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:


Thank you, Richard. I can't find anywhere in the native calendar settings to 
turn off default alerts. Any suggestions?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Question about scheduling an event

I believe both the native Calendar and Fantastical have the ability to set a 
default alert time.
Go into the Native Calendar settings and turn off default alerts.

If you are setting up an alert at the time you create the event, then it is 
probably going to show up in both since Fantastical draws from the native 
calendar.
However, you could go into notifications and turn them off for calendar, but 
leave them on for Fantastical.

Reminders and events are treated very similarly.  I’m not sure why one needs to 
use Reminders.
But, if you have Fantastical set up to access your Reminders, you could just 
set up a Reminder via Siri/Reminders app, and it will show up in Fantastical.
I’m fairly sure that is correct, but I’m not by my iPhone right now.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:48 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: Question about scheduling an event

Good Afternoon,

I have been trying to set up a reminder both through my calendar and 
Fantastical. I finally switched from the Gmail calendar to the home calendar 
and was able to set up the event through Fantastical, but not a reminder.

Well, when the event happened, which is a recurring event, I get an alert from 
both my calendar and Fantastical at the same time. Can I delete it in my 
calendar, which I never set up, and just leave it in Fantastical or will that 
wipe out both of them?

I never could set up the reminder but I'm fairly certain that is an IOS issue 
because it only started after the upgrade.

Thank you.

Vicki

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Re: Question about scheduling an event

[Vicki W.]

Thank you, Richard. I can't find anywhere in the native calendar settings to 
turn off default alerts. Any suggestions?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 11:40 AM
  Subject: RE: Question about scheduling an event


  I believe both the native Calendar and Fantastical have the ability to set a 
default alert time.

  Go into the Native Calendar settings and turn off default alerts.

   

  If you are setting up an alert at the time you create the event, then it is 
probably going to show up in both since Fantastical draws from the native 
calendar.

  However, you could go into notifications and turn them off for calendar, but 
leave them on for Fantastical.

   

  Reminders and events are treated very similarly.  I’m not sure why one needs 
to use Reminders.

  But, if you have Fantastical set up to access your Reminders, you could just 
set up a Reminder via Siri/Reminders app, and it will show up in Fantastical.

  I’m fairly sure that is correct, but I’m not by my iPhone right now.

   

   

   

  Richard

   

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:48 PM
  To: IPhone 
  Subject: Question about scheduling an event

   

  Good Afternoon,

   

  I have been trying to set up a reminder both through my calendar and 
Fantastical. I finally switched from the Gmail calendar to the home calendar 
and was able to set up the event through Fantastical, but not a reminder.

   

  Well, when the event happened, which is a recurring event, I get an alert 
from both my calendar and Fantastical at the same time. Can I delete it in my 
calendar, which I never set up, and just leave it in Fantastical or will that 
wipe out both of them?

   

  I never could set up the reminder but I'm fairly certain that is an IOS issue 
because it only started after the upgrade.

   

  Thank you.

   

  Vicki

   

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Re: AirPods Pro. Any pointers on removing the silicon insert to try a different size?

[Larry Smith]

Just pull the tip with a bit of effort. It’s not going to break!

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 3:34 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
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> hi, I am in the early phases of trying out my AirPods Pro. The silicon insert 
> that came attached to the Apple pod Pro is a little large, and I would like 
> to try a different size. I am having trouble removing the original silicon 
> insert. Does anyone have any pointers for how to achieve this without somehow 
> breaking the tip on removal?
> Thanks in advance for any help. Best, Keith
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Re: AirPods Pro. Any pointers on removing the silicon insert to try a different size?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I could not find any marker on my new AirPods pro to indicate where to press. 
And I worried about pulling on the silicon because the original medium tips 
were very firmly attached. I chickened out and asked my sighted wife to change 
the tips and she struggled just as much as I had and eventually just used brute 
force by pulling on the silicon! Not a good design feature...
Harry

> On 9 Nov 2019, at 20:53, Michael Doise  wrote:
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> Good afternoon, 
> 
> I have had the AirPods Pro for aabout two weeks. You can remove the tips by 
> just pulling on the silicon ear inserts, or by finding the small depression 
> in the plastic near the ear tip and use your fingertip to remove the ear tip. 
> 
> As for the case, The AirPods Pro have a new case design. Therefore, the Pros 
> will not fit in the AirPods 2 case.
> 
> I hope this helps, and have a great day.
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not invested in these Pro devices, since I just got the Airpods 2 
>> about three months ago. Do you know if the Pro models will fit into the case 
>> for the version 2 Airpods? Are these new ones shaped differently than the 
>> previous model?
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 9, 2019, at 1:34 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> hi, I am in the early phases of trying out my AirPods Pro. The silicon 
>> insert that came attached to the Apple pod Pro is a little large, and I 
>> would like to try a different size. I am having trouble removing the 
>> original silicon insert. Does anyone have any pointers for how to achieve 
>> this without somehow breaking the tip on removal?
>> Thanks in advance for any help. Best, Keith
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