date:20211010

thanks Simon you're a star. Janet

On 10/10/2021 23:35, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Janet,

To my knowledge

You can use it in any country,

I’m in New Zealand so well on the underside of the globe,

This device was suggested by a lot of folks in the USA

And the app to use is called

:Qardio”

But yeah once it arrives I can give a bit of a run down on it for you.

I believe it speaks the test results to you when you take the test.

And the app I believe lets you share the results with your doctor via
the net and or from the app.

But hey I’ll let you know.

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Of *Janet Bell

*Sent:* Sunday, 10 October 2021 8:01 pm
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Blood Pressure Testing Device Opinions

Hi Simon when it arrives will you let me know what it is like and if
it is easy to set up. Janet ps and also what app you need to use it.
and one final thing can you use it in any country? Janet

On 10/10/2021 07:05, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Mike,

I’d love to tell you abou the qardio arm blood pressure monitor I
have,

But although I’ve ordered and paid for it,

It hasn’t’ yet arrived at my door,

Some globle issue with shipping thingns

But it’s the one that was recommended by many blind / visually
impaired folks.

So I only hope it’s worth the wait.

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Behalf Of *Mike B.
*Sent:* Sunday, 10 October 2021 5:58 pm
*To:* viPhone

*Subject:* Blood Pressure Testing Device Opinions

Hi All,

I'm in the market of replacing my current Reizen blood pressure
testing machine, mainly because it's almost 20 years old and seems
to be reporting irraticly.

The hose doesn't seem to have any cracks, and the hose seems to
plug in an seal sufficiently

So, I'm looking for a replacement device and would like to get
opinions of some good talking blood pressure testing machines from
all you good folks.

All input is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted. Thanks
mooy moocho.

Stay safe & take care. Mike.
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Re: commas instead of names?

2021-10-10 Thread Donna Casteen

Richard, Thanks for this. I am in a group in which this topic was discussed. 
The solution that was shared to solve the problem was to reset all settings. I 
am glad to know that there is another much simplier solution.

Donna

 
> If you absolutely need to reset all settings, you can, but I discovered that 
> was like killing a fly with a sledge hammer.
> 
>  
> 
> If you are having the issue of VoiceOver saying Comma before each character 
> you delete, go to settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Verbosity, and set 
> “deleting text’ to do nothing.
> 
> It will still speak the character you delete but it won’t add the word comma.
> 
>  
> 
> If you are determined to have to fix tons of settings with many many apps, go 
> to settings, general, Transfer or Reset iPhone, double tap, and go down to 
> Reset, double tap and then pick your poison.
> 
> Just don’t do Erase all content unless  you really want to wipe out your 
> phone …
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> 
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
>  
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
> W.
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 5:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: commas instead of names?
> 
>  
> 
> Where do I go to reset all settings? I assume this is a single change, not 
> changing them all separately.
> 
>  
> 
> Vicki
> 
>  
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: Donna Casteen
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 2:13 PM
> 
> Subject: Re: commas instead of names?
> 
>  
> 
> I've seen others mention this problem since updating to IOS 15. They report 
> that resetting all settings resolves the problem. Note: Resetting all 
> settings just resets what is in the settings app not the entire phone. If you 
> choose to try this, good luck. Hope the solution works for you.
> 
>  
> 
> Donna
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I apologize if this has all ready been asked, but since my update, certain 
> apps and other whole words are completely replaced by a comma or at least the 
> word comma. There is no particular pattern, it just does it. This happens 
> when arrowing down apps in settings, on the home screen and it's always the 
> same app, but no reason for doing it. Any ideas how to stop this?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> Vicki
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Re: commas instead of names?

2021-10-10 Thread Mike B.

Hi All,

Sorry about this, it was supposed to be sent to myself to save as a note for 
this comma issue.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
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From: Mike B.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: commas instead of names?


From: Richard Turner
If you are having the issue of VoiceOver saying Comma before each character 
you delete, go to settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Verbosity, and set 
“deleting text’ to do nothing.

If you are determined to have to fix tons of settings with many many apps, 
go to settings, general, Transfer or Reset iPhone, double tap, and go down 
to Reset, Richard



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Re: commas instead of names?

2021-10-10 Thread Mike B.

From: Richard Turner
If you are having the issue of VoiceOver saying Comma before each character 
you delete, go to settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Verbosity, and set 
“deleting text’ to do nothing.

If you are determined to have to fix tons of settings with many many apps, 
go to settings, general, Transfer or Reset iPhone, double tap, and go down 
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RE: commas instead of names?

If you absolutely need to reset all settings, you can, but I discovered that 
was like killing a fly with a sledge hammer.

If you are having the issue of VoiceOver saying Comma before each character you 
delete, go to settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Verbosity, and set "deleting 
text' to do nothing.
It will still speak the character you delete but it won't add the word comma.

If you are determined to have to fix tons of settings with many many apps, go 
to settings, general, Transfer or Reset iPhone, double tap, and go down to 
Reset, double tap and then pick your poison.
Just don't do Erase all content unless  you really want to wipe out your phone 
...




Richard
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Jane Wagner

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: commas instead of names?

Where do I go to reset all settings? I assume this is a single change, not 
changing them all separately.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Donna Casteen
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: commas instead of names?

I've seen others mention this problem since updating to IOS 15. They report 
that resetting all settings resolves the problem. Note: Resetting all settings 
just resets what is in the settings app not the entire phone. If you choose to 
try this, good luck. Hope the solution works for you.

Donna


Hi,

I apologize if this has all ready been asked, but since my update, certain apps 
and other whole words are completely replaced by a comma or at least the word 
comma. There is no particular pattern, it just does it. This happens when 
arrowing down apps in settings, on the home screen and it's always the same 
app, but no reason for doing it. Any ideas how to stop this?

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: SIRI on locked screen

Please report this to Apple.
Sometimes, even if you have allow Siri on lock screen on, it does this.  You 
may be able to ask the question again right after the first failure and it may 
work.
But, this seems to be a bug.
So write to accessibil...@apple.com

Thanks,



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 5:55 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: SIRI on locked screen

Hi,

Is there something I need to change back to get SIRI to work on the locked 
screen again? If I unlock the screen, it works most of the time, but when the 
screen is locked, it makes the sound to start talking and immediately makes the 
sound that it's finished and the screen returns to the locked screen. This all 
started since the latest IOS update.

Thanks.

Vicki

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Re: commas instead of names?

2021-10-10 Thread Vicki W.

Where do I go to reset all settings? I assume this is a single change, not 
changing them all separately.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Donna Casteen 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 2:13 PM
  Subject: Re: commas instead of names?

  I've seen others mention this problem since updating to IOS 15. They report 
that resetting all settings resolves the problem. Note: Resetting all settings 
just resets what is in the settings app not the entire phone. If you choose to 
try this, good luck. Hope the solution works for you.

  Donna

Hi,

I apologize if this has all ready been asked, but since my update, certain 
apps and other whole words are completely replaced by a comma or at least the 
word comma. There is no particular pattern, it just does it. This happens when 
arrowing down apps in settings, on the home screen and it's always the same 
app, but no reason for doing it. Any ideas how to stop this?

Thanks.

Vicki

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SIRI on locked screen

2021-10-10 Thread Vicki W.

Hi,

Is there something I need to change back to get SIRI to work on the locked 
screen again? If I unlock the screen, it works most of the time, but when the 
screen is locked, it makes the sound to start talking and immediately makes the 
sound that it's finished and the screen returns to the locked screen. This all 
started since the latest IOS update.

Thanks.

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Re: Ssending photos instructions needed please

2021-10-10 Thread Wren Langley

Hi Jennie,
How do I send more than one using this message method? Sorry that is supposed 
to be how do I send more than one photo using this message, but I can’t do 
anything right now because I have the Mantis paired to the iPhone and I don’t 
know how to edit dictation if I make a mistake if anyone can help with that too 
I would appreciate it but that’s a totally different subject. Thank you. OK 
that is supposed to be method not message.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wren,
> 
> Someone already sent the instructions to label a photo, so I’ll send ones 
> explaining how to send them.
> 1. Open the photo you want to send.
> 2. Double tap the share button
> 3. Choose either a message to someone or mail or however you wish to send it
> 4. Type in their information and then double tap send.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Thank you Dianne for those wonderful instructions. I had no problem 
>> understanding them, and I’m sure I will be able to follow them with no 
>> problem
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
 
>>> I have copied this and sent this hopefully will come correctly to you as 
>>> this is what 
>>> Matt had written the other day.
>  there is actually a brand new way to do this in iOS 15 which also works 
> great, and it appears to be apples official recommendation, right from 
> the user guide, for labeling photos.
>>> 
> 
> First, double tap on the photo you want to label, to actually open the 
> photo.
> Next, find and double tap the edit button.
> Now, locate the mark up button and double tap it.
> Swipe clear to the bottom of the screen, or get there however you like 
> to, in order to go past all the different options for writing tools and 
> color pickers and so on. Locate the add button, double tap it, then 
> choose description.
> You will be presented with a regular edit field, and you can type a 
> friendly label for the photo. Then, just hit done or save. I have demoed 
> this in the iOS 15 tutorial series that I am offering, and it works 
> great. God bless you and take c
>>> 
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>> 
> On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
> 
 Hi all,
 
 I didn’t put this in my subject, but I would like to also know how to 
 label photos. I used to know how to send them, but I can’t remember. Your 
 help would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
 
 God bless,
 Wren Langley
 
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Re: Ssending photos instructions needed please

You are very welcome. Matt gave them to us I think it was on another list. So I 
follow those instructions and they are wonderful.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you Dianne for those wonderful instructions. I had no problem 
> understanding them, and I’m sure I will be able to follow them with no problem
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>>> 
>> I have copied this and sent this hopefully will come correctly to you as 
>> this is what 
>> Matt had written the other day.
  there is actually a brand new way to do this in iOS 15 which also works 
 great, and it appears to be apples official recommendation, right from the 
 user guide, for labeling photos.
>> 
 
 First, double tap on the photo you want to label, to actually open the 
 photo.
 Next, find and double tap the edit button.
 Now, locate the mark up button and double tap it.
 Swipe clear to the bottom of the screen, or get there however you like to, 
 in order to go past all the different options for writing tools and color 
 pickers and so on. Locate the add button, double tap it, then choose 
 description.
 You will be presented with a regular edit field, and you can type a 
 friendly label for the photo. Then, just hit done or save. I have demoed 
 this in the iOS 15 tutorial series that I am offering, and it works great. 
 God bless you and take c
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
 On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I didn’t put this in my subject, but I would like to also know how to label 
>>> photos. I used to know how to send them, but I can’t remember. Your help 
>>> would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
>>> 
>>> God bless,
>>> Wren Langley
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Ssending photos instructions needed please

2021-10-10 Thread Jennie Facer

Hi Wren,

Someone already sent the instructions to label a photo, so I’ll send ones 
explaining how to send them.
1. Open the photo you want to send.
2. Double tap the share button
3. Choose either a message to someone or mail or however you wish to send it
4. Type in their information and then double tap send.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you Dianne for those wonderful instructions. I had no problem 
> understanding them, and I’m sure I will be able to follow them with no problem
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>>> 
>> I have copied this and sent this hopefully will come correctly to you as 
>> this is what 
>> Matt had written the other day.
  there is actually a brand new way to do this in iOS 15 which also works 
 great, and it appears to be apples official recommendation, right from the 
 user guide, for labeling photos.
>> 
 
 First, double tap on the photo you want to label, to actually open the 
 photo.
 Next, find and double tap the edit button.
 Now, locate the mark up button and double tap it.
 Swipe clear to the bottom of the screen, or get there however you like to, 
 in order to go past all the different options for writing tools and color 
 pickers and so on. Locate the add button, double tap it, then choose 
 description.
 You will be presented with a regular edit field, and you can type a 
 friendly label for the photo. Then, just hit done or save. I have demoed 
 this in the iOS 15 tutorial series that I am offering, and it works great. 
 God bless you and take c
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
 On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I didn’t put this in my subject, but I would like to also know how to label 
>>> photos. I used to know how to send them, but I can’t remember. Your help 
>>> would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
>>> 
>>> God bless,
>>> Wren Langley
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

Mine works with or without shades, in dark room or room that is ighted. 

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I always have my shades on,

And the face id doesn’t have an issue with unlocking my phone when I’m wearing 
them.

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Sent: Monday, 11 October 2021 2:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but even 
before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun glasses on.

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Nalda
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The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve never 
gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as well. If 
you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long as you use 
your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise your phone for 
access. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

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On Oct 10, 2021, at 4:11 AM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried 
about setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock 
directions.  Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

The iOS was being installed wirelessly so no computers or computer viruses 
involved.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 10, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:


Sometimes I anti-soft virus software causes the system to fail when you’re 
trying to update


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Lemly 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Thanks, Sieghard. I’ll remember that for future reference.



Alan



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Weitzel
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You don't have to keep the screen alive, it will update just fine with the 
screen locked.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: October 9, 2021 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be



Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



Alan Lemly

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RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

Fingerprint id is not available on any current iPhone that does not have a Home 
Button. 

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RichardPetty
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So, is it true, then, that fingerprint ID is no longer available on iPhone 13?

Richard Petty
Dictated to and sent from my iPhone
Please excuse dictation errors

On Oct 10, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
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I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but 
even before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun 
glasses on.

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Pete Nalda
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. 
Then the only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. 
I’ve never gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop 
as well. If you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long 
as you use your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise your 
phone for access. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

Louie P (Pete) Nalda

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Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda

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RE: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

Even my iPhone charger that came with my 11 is somewhat faster than my 5 watts 
wireless chargers are. I figured the slower ones could be good, maybe better 
for the battery, but, as my husband would say, "What do I know?" 

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When my wife bought an iPhone 12 Pro last summer at an Apple store, we were 
given the choice of a new adapter, but we weren’t told anything negative about 
the old adapter other than it’ll take longer. BTW, we did decide to purchase a 
new adapter. IMHO, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using one adapter 
over the other.

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Feir
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Subject: Re: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

You definitely won't damage your device by charging it with an older USB A 
lightning charger. The same goes for power banks which use USB A ports. It's 
all absolutely safe to use. The newer adaptors and cables simply offer 
significantly greater speed delivered safely. Apple can vouch for its own 
adaptors so they may offer a greater degree of safety. They have a 
certification called MFI for third party accessories. If a power bank or cable 
has this certification, Apple has vouched them safe to use with their iPhones 
or iPads.

It's really not all about greed on Apple's part. They genuinely feel they offer 
a better charging system. More likely, that it was a better system until fairly 
recently. At this point though, similar to the fate of the technically superior 
Betamax video tapes, the USB C standard has simply gained market dominance. I 
think Apple will have to bow to the inevidable and give up on Lightning 
charging withing perhaps the next three iterations of iPhone at the longest.

I have one USB C adaptor and USB C to Lightning cable. They're at my desk where 
I think it most likely that I'll need speedy charging. I have my older 
Lightning chargers and cables everywhere else. Although I very much like 
Magsafe, I can't use it with the case I picked. The Apple Magsafe clear cases 
really don't give me confidence that they offer much protection at all. In the 
end, my desire for actual protection won out and I went with a Supcase Unicorn 
Beetle case for my new iPhone 13. I have a third party wireless charging pad 
which I still find convenient if somewhat more fidly to get the iPhone in the 
right position. It is able to charge through the protective case allowing me to 
use my Lightning port for earpods.

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:36 AM Arnold Schmidt mailto:als5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is only my opinion, but I'll bet, over time, the battery life 
would be longer if it were charged with a usb charger, rather than the faster u 
s b c charger. Heat is the big enemy of these batteries, so the more slowly 
they are charged, the better. But Apple does not want their competition to have 
fast charging capability and they don't have it, or if only they have it, they 
can use the fact that they have it as a selling point, it is all about the 
dollar, you know. Besides, if fast charging ends up shortening the battery's 
life, they get to sell more batteries. Whatever. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Oct 9, 2021, at 11:27 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Charles, I recently heard a consumer news tip where the person was 
really testing to see if the USB c block really did charge faster than the USB 
a one.  He was using one of the more recent Iphones and said nothing about the 
A blocks possibly damaging the battery.  In fact, he charged the phone with the 
USB a block and noted that it was slower than the c one.  He led me to believe 
that they really both will work fine, one's just a little faster..  

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Paula Jordan
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I just bought my iphone 13 mini and was told the same thing.  I went 
ahead and bought the usBC recommended charging block.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

2021-10-10 Thread Mickey Quenzer

Sometimes I anti-soft virus software causes the system to fail when you’re 
trying to update


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Thanks, Sieghard. I’ll remember that for future reference.



Alan



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You don't have to keep the screen alive, it will update just fine with the 
screen locked.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
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Subject: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be



Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



Alan Lemly

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RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

It is really simple. I don't think people realize, until they use face ID and 
screen without Home Button. 

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Michael Feir
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I don't find it difficult. Just hold the iPhone out in front of you vertically 
at around a foot away. Start with the top of the iPhone level with your nose. 
Perhaps, a little higher. When the FAce ID setup telss you to, imagine the 
front of your face as a crank handle you need to turn to the right. You need to 
move your head so that the camera at the top of the front of your iPhone gets 
to see your whole face. Another step has you turning your face from side to 
side. You may have to go through the process two or three times to get it rhght 
and catch all of the instructions since they can get cut off as the camera 
takes in your face. It's not a very long process. It takes less than a minute.
After you're finished and it's satisfied that the model of your face that it 
has built is good, you just have to turn your face toward the iPhone when 
required and it will unlock. You'll hear a click sound when it's unlocked. You 
then use the home gesture by touching the bottom of the iPhone screen and 
sliding your finger up until the second bump and high pitched tick. Lift your 
finger and you'll be on your home screen. Very simple.

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:11 AM Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried 
about setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock 
directions.  Any help is appreciated.

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RE: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

I do that too - charge phone on wireless charger, and use wired earbuds. 

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You definitely won't damage your device by charging it with an older USB A 
lightning charger. The same goes for power banks which use USB A ports. It's 
all absolutely safe to use. The newer adaptors and cables simply offer 
significantly greater speed delivered safely. Apple can vouch for its own 
adaptors so they may offer a greater degree of safety. They have a 
certification called MFI for third party accessories. If a power bank or cable 
has this certification, Apple has vouched them safe to use with their iPhones 
or iPads.
It's really not all about greed on Apple's part. They genuinely feel they offer 
a better charging system. More likely, that it was a better system until fairly 
recently. At this point though, similar to the fate of the technically superior 
Betamax video tapes, the USB C standard has simply gained market dominance. I 
think Apple will have to bow to the inevidable and give up on Lightning 
charging withing perhaps the next three iterations of iPhone at the longest.
I have one USB C adaptor and USB C to Lightning cable. They're at my desk where 
I think it most likely that I'll need speedy charging. I have my older 
Lightning chargers and cables everywhere else. Although I very much like 
Magsafe, I can't use it with the case I picked. The Apple Magsafe clear cases 
really don't give me confidence that they offer much protection at all. In the 
end, my desire for actual protection won out and I went with a Supcase Unicorn 
Beetle case for my new iPhone 13. I have a third party wireless charging pad 
which I still find convenient if somewhat more fidly to get the iPhone in the 
right position. It is able to charge through the protective case allowing me to 
use my Lightning port for earpods.

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:36 AM Arnold Schmidt mailto:als5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is only my opinion, but I'll bet, over time, the battery life 
would be longer if it were charged with a usb charger, rather than the faster u 
s b c charger. Heat is the big enemy of these batteries, so the more slowly 
they are charged, the better. But Apple does not want their competition to have 
fast charging capability and they don't have it, or if only they have it, they 
can use the fact that they have it as a selling point, it is all about the 
dollar, you know. Besides, if fast charging ends up shortening the battery's 
life, they get to sell more batteries. Whatever. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Oct 9, 2021, at 11:27 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Charles, I recently heard a consumer news tip where the person was 
really testing to see if the USB c block really did charge faster than the USB 
a one.  He was using one of the more recent Iphones and said nothing about the 
A blocks possibly damaging the battery.  In fact, he charged the phone with the 
USB a block and noted that it was slower than the c one.  He led me to believe 
that they really both will work fine, one's just a little faster..  

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Paula Jordan
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I just bought my iphone 13 mini and was told the same thing.  I went 
ahead and bought the usBC recommended charging block.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Charles Spicer
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:05 PM
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Subject: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

Hello, I hope everyone is safe and well.  When I purchased my iPhone
13 mini the representative told me that it is not recommended to use 
the charging block and cables that we all have from buying prior iPhones.  She 
advised that it may damage the battery and it is recommended to use the new 
charging block and cables with the USBC connection.
Has anyone heard this and do you agree with only using the new charging 
blocks and cables to charge iPhone 13?
Thank you!
Charles

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Facial ID is not difficult to set up. I did mine, and I'm totally blind, in my 
80's. The guy at Wal-Mart couldn't get it to work. After I had the phone a day 
or two, I went outside on a bright winter afternoon on the west side of our 
apartments and got it. The phone instructs you like with finger print, move 
here, move there, you just follow directions. VOILA, it works! 

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Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried about 
setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock directions.  
Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Ssending photos instructions needed please

2021-10-10 Thread Wren Langley

Thank you Dianne for those wonderful instructions. I had no problem 
understanding them, and I’m sure I will be able to follow them with no problem

God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> I have copied this and sent this hopefully will come correctly to you as 
> this is what 
> Matt had written the other day.
>>>  there is actually a brand new way to do this in iOS 15 which also works 
>>> great, and it appears to be apples official recommendation, right from the 
>>> user guide, for labeling photos.
> 
>>> 
>>> First, double tap on the photo you want to label, to actually open the 
>>> photo.
>>> Next, find and double tap the edit button.
>>> Now, locate the mark up button and double tap it.
>>> Swipe clear to the bottom of the screen, or get there however you like to, 
>>> in order to go past all the different options for writing tools and color 
>>> pickers and so on. Locate the add button, double tap it, then choose 
>>> description.
>>> You will be presented with a regular edit field, and you can type a 
>>> friendly label for the photo. Then, just hit done or save. I have demoed 
>>> this in the iOS 15 tutorial series that I am offering, and it works great. 
>>> God bless you and take c
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I didn’t put this in my subject, but I would like to also know how to label 
>> photos. I used to know how to send them, but I can’t remember. Your help 
>> would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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A podcast player question

2021-10-10 Thread GARY WILLIAMS

Hello everyone,
Does anyone know of a podcast app that allows book marking podcasts? 
Thanks for any help.
Gary Williams 

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RE: Blood Pressure Testing Device Opinions

Hi Janet,

To my knowledge
You can use it in any country,
I’m in New Zealand so well on the underside of the globe,

This device was suggested by a lot of folks in the USA
And the app to use is called
:Qardio”
But yeah once it arrives I can give a bit of a run down on it for you.
I believe it speaks the test results to you when you take the test.

And the app I believe lets you share the results with your doctor via the net 
and or from the app.

But hey I’ll let you know.

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Bell
Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2021 8:01 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi Simon when it arrives will you let me know what it is like and if it is easy 
to set up.  Janet ps and also what app you need to use it.  and one final thing 
can you use it in any country?  Janet
On 10/10/2021 07:05, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Hi Mike,

I’d love to tell you abou the qardio arm blood pressure monitor I have,

But although I’ve ordered and paid for it,

It hasn’t’ yet arrived at my door,

Some globle issue with shipping thingns

But it’s the one that was recommended by many  blind / visually impaired folks.

So I only hope it’s worth the wait.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2021 5:58 pm
To: viPhone 
Subject: Blood Pressure Testing Device Opinions

Hi All,

I'm in the market of replacing my current Reizen blood pressure testing 
machine, mainly because it's almost 20 years old and seems to be reporting 
irraticly.

The hose doesn't seem to have any cracks, and the hose seems to plug in an seal 
sufficiently

So, I'm looking for a replacement device and would like to get opinions of some 
good talking blood pressure testing machines from all you good folks.

All input is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks mooy moocho.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

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RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

Hey Dennis,

I’d be pretty right in saying you shouldn’t have an issue with setting up a 13 
pro iPhone!

It’s not really that different from any other phone you’ve set up,

And voiceover gives good prompts as to what / how to do things with face id 
setup
And voiceover also disables the attention feature in face id

So give it a go,
You should be fine.

SF

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Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried about 
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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

2021-10-10 Thread Pete Nalda

Same with my bioptics. It even lnows all 3 faces and 50 hats

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> On Oct 10, 2021, at 5:16 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> I always have my shades on,
>  
> And the face id doesn’t have an issue with unlocking my phone when I’m 
> wearing them.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, 11 October 2021 2:25 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id
>  
> I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but even 
> before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun glasses 
> on.
>  
> --
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id
>  
> The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
> only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve 
> never gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as 
> well. If you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long 
> as you use your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise 
> your phone for access. 
> 
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>  
> 
> On Oct 10, 2021, at 4:11 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried about 
> setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock directions.  
> Any help is appreciated.
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RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

I always have my shades on,

And the face id doesn’t have an issue with unlocking my phone when I’m wearing 
them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, 11 October 2021 2:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but even 
before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun glasses on.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve never 
gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as well. If 
you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long as you use 
your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise your phone for 
access.
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mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried about 
setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock directions.  
Any help is appreciated.
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RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

Fing print or touch ID hasn’t been available on any of the face id phones apple 
have produced.
The last touch Id phone from apple ws the SE 2020
And before that the 8 and 8+.

But don’t let this put you off as the face id phones are great and just as if 
not more useable than the phones with touch id.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
RichardPetty
Sent: Monday, 11 October 2021 2:38 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

So, is it true, then, that fingerprint ID is no longer available on iPhone 13?
Richard Petty
Dictated to and sent from my iPhone
Please excuse dictation errors


On Oct 10, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but even 
before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun glasses on.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve never 
gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as well. If 
you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long as you use 
your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise your phone for 
access.
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Re: Weather.

2021-10-10 Thread William Outman

Where do I find the moon phases in the native Weather app?I found everything 
else that has been described as new layout. I’ve played with containers a bit 
for the first time, not something I ever thought useful as a total. I’m 
intrigued by this new audio graph stuff. I noticed it the other day when minute 
by minute precipation was present. How does the audio graph work? 
Bill Outman 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2021, at 5:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Kay,
> When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
> conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm 
> with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
> The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
> The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
> Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, 
> visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
> 
> From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right flick, 
> then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day 
> forecast.
> 
> If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, 
> Saturday, Sunday, etc.
> 
> I think that is everything that is on the screen.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather 
> app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then 
> to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is 
> interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do 
> to make navigation easier.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Weather.
> 
> 
> That should help. I just about make D on rotor, but I'll see what I can do, 
> thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Ed Worrell
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 4:19 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> Containers are groups of information that you can jump between with the 
> rotor feature. These are kind of like regions with in an application. You 
> also see containers or landmarks on websites: such as navigation menus, main 
> page content, or footer content.
> 
> In the Apple Weather app you have: current weather, hourly weather and 10 
> day forecast. You can add the container option to your rotor. When you 
> switch the containers option you can flick down to move down the application 
> via containers and once you get to the container you want to explore, now 
> you can flick right to read the content in the container. You can also flick 
> up to view containers above your current reading position.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> What are Containers? How are they used?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 10:27 AM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> 
>> In the default weather app on the iPhone you do not have to navigate it 
>> line by line. If you have the containers option in your rotor you can jump 
>> between the sections such as current conditions, hourly, daily forecast 
>> and even jump down to the bottom of the app to read amount of rain, temp 
>> details, sun and moon phases, etc.
>> 
>> I hope this helps,
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's it.
>>> It resets them to their default.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." -- Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> website:  
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cafc9a445383b4fc708d98a9d5bdc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637693230733213498%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=PXonyB9PG7y4m0W1ZQtxxo3oZ6oEURTPLhuhOIhhAy4%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
 
 ?My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about 
 defaults.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]

Re: Ssending photos instructions needed please

I have copied this and sent this hopefully will come correctly to you as this 
is what 
Matt had written the other day.
>>  there is actually a brand new way to do this in iOS 15 which also works 
>> great, and it appears to be apples official recommendation, right from the 
>> user guide, for labeling photos.

>> 
>> First, double tap on the photo you want to label, to actually open the photo.
>> Next, find and double tap the edit button.
>> Now, locate the mark up button and double tap it.
>> Swipe clear to the bottom of the screen, or get there however you like to, 
>> in order to go past all the different options for writing tools and color 
>> pickers and so on. Locate the add button, double tap it, then choose 
>> description.
>> You will be presented with a regular edit field, and you can type a friendly 
>> label for the photo. Then, just hit done or save. I have demoed this in the 
>> iOS 15 tutorial series that I am offering, and it works great. God bless you 
>> and take c

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I didn’t put this in my subject, but I would like to also know how to label 
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> would be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.
> 
> God bless,
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RE: odd haptic/vibration

2021-10-10 Thread Paula Jordan

That worked.  Yea!

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: odd haptic/vibration

 

Hi guys,

 

you want to go to settings, Accessibility, voiceover, audio, sounds and 
haptics, then look for the no item discovered button and turn that feature off. 
Hope that helps.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Paula I have been having the same issue since iOS 15. I’m not sure how to turn 
it off. Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Oct 10, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:



Hi.  I’m noticing that when I run my finger around my iphone mini screen there 
is always this odd vibration or haptic of some sort as long as my finger is 
sliding.  I’ve turned off sounds and haptics in settings but I still feel it.  
Not sure if I’m making this clear.  I never had anything like it on my 7. Is 
there a way to get rid of it?  It’s annoying.

Thanks as always.  So grateful for this group and the help I get.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Ssending photos instructions needed please

2021-10-10 Thread Wren Langley

Hi all,

I didn’t put this in my subject, but I would like to also know how to label 
photos. I used to know how to send them, but I can’t remember. Your help would 
be greatly appreciated. Please and thank you.

God bless,
Wren Langley

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RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

2021-10-10 Thread Alan Lemly

Thanks, Sieghard. I’ll remember that for future reference.

 

Alan

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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You don't have to keep the screen alive, it will update just fine with the 
screen locked.

 

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Sent: October 9, 2021 6:50 PM
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Subject: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

 

Hi List,

 

I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.

 

I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: odd haptic/vibration

2021-10-10 Thread Julian

Hi guys,

you want to go to settings, Accessibility, voiceover, audio, sounds and 
haptics, then look for the no item discovered button and turn that feature off. 
Hope that helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Paula I have been having the same issue since iOS 15. I’m not sure how to 
> turn it off. Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi.  I’m noticing that when I run my finger around my iphone mini screen 
>> there is always this odd vibration or haptic of some sort as long as my 
>> finger is sliding.  I’ve turned off sounds and haptics in settings but I 
>> still feel it.  Not sure if I’m making this clear.  I never had anything 
>> like it on my 7. Is there a way to get rid of it?  It’s annoying.
>> Thanks as always.  So grateful for this group and the help I get.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
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RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

2021-10-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

You don't have to keep the screen alive, it will update just fine with the 
screen locked.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: October 9, 2021 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

Hi List,

I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.

I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

2021-10-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

What does anti virus software have to do with iOS as there is none.

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Sent: October 10, 2021 5:26 AM
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You also should temporary disable any antivirus software while using this 
method.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

I called AppleCare about the new iPhone still updating when the screen has gone 
to sleep and the rep said it should still update. I’m not sure I’m convinced. 
After waiting almost 3 hours for the iOS 15.01 upgrade, I rebooted the new 
iPhone and am now getting a screen that says reconnecting. There is a Cancel 
button in the upper left corner of that screen and when I double tap on it, I 
get a message asking me if I’m sure I want to stop transferring data which will 
cause the iPhone to be reset and erased. I’m assuming the transfer is the 
redownload of my 250+ apps from the App Store. When I get up in the morning, I 
will check the status and if it is still transferring data, I’m going to reset 
and start again. For one who has been using these devices as long as I have, I 
think Apple could do a far sight better at making the setup process easier and 
more intuitive.

Alan

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Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

When I got into a long delay, I called Apple Accessibility and ended up having 
to reboot both phones at the same time.

The update probably has to finish before it will let you do squat.

I've given feedback to Apple before about the 30 second (explitive) but it will 
take a lot more feedback to get them to change that I guess.

Perhaps we all need to put it to them as an accessibility issue and have new 
phones switch to never, or 5 minutes as sooon as VoiceOver is turned on.

Good luck.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner

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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 What I would do is go to settings as soon as you get voiceover turned on, 
Then display and brightness and that’s where you can change the sleeptime and 
you can’t change it yesterday as a default to 30 but you can change it easy

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

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On Oct 9, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.

I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly

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Re: odd haptic/vibration

2021-10-10 Thread Anthony Vece

Paula I have been having the same issue since iOS 15. I’m not sure how to turn 
it off. Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi.  I’m noticing that when I run my finger around my iphone mini screen 
> there is always this odd vibration or haptic of some sort as long as my 
> finger is sliding.  I’ve turned off sounds and haptics in settings but I 
> still feel it.  Not sure if I’m making this clear.  I never had anything like 
> it on my 7. Is there a way to get rid of it?  It’s annoying.
> Thanks as always.  So grateful for this group and the help I get.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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odd haptic/vibration

2021-10-10 Thread Paula Jordan

Hi.  I'm noticing that when I run my finger around my iphone mini screen
there is always this odd vibration or haptic of some sort as long as my
finger is sliding.  I've turned off sounds and haptics in settings but I
still feel it.  Not sure if I'm making this clear.  I never had anything
like it on my 7. Is there a way to get rid of it?  It's annoying.

Thanks as always.  So grateful for this group and the help I get.

God bless!

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Re: Voice Dream Writer odd invisible feature?

2021-10-10 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone

Thanks, Richard! Now that I understand their purpose, that’ll make more sense! 
It is only an extra few swipes to the right to get to what I am used to, after 
all.
Harry

> On 10 Oct 2021, at 15:32, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Harry,
> That is very useful.  It is how you navigate a document quickly, like in 
> Voice Dream Reader.
> The buttons related to that are below the document text.
> Maybe he could add an option to hide those buttons when you are not editing, 
> just reading.
> I don't mind the layout as is.
> Or, perhaps documents should open in read-only mode until you activate the 
> Edit button.
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> When I open VDR and use dots 1-2-3 chord on Orbit Writer expecting to land on 
> file manager, instead I land on an invisible (according to my sighted wife) 
> row of buttons which VoiceOver describes as about choosing Lowest Level: 
> headings, paragraph, sentence (selected) or edit. Only after moving right 
> past these invisible options each time can I get to what I normally want - 
> file manager or add new document. Is it possible to get rid of this new 
> feature or does it serve some essential purpose?
> Thanks
> Harry
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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

Richard, thanks for that. I didn’t realize that otherwise I never would’ve told 
the other person to make sure it’s off. Great. It isdefinitely a good feature.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> In iOS 15, if VoiceOver is being used during Face ID setup, automatically 
> turns off Attention required.  A very nice improvement.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
> Giannetti
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id
> 
> The one thing that might be very helpful is to not set up the attention. Keep 
> attention off because that way if you end up not looking directly into the 
> camera it won’t matter.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Øyvind Lode  wrote:
>> 
>> No need to worry.
>> It's very simple to set up FaceID and VoiceOver will guide you as you go a 
>> long.
>> VO will tell you to look into the camera and help you to get your face 
>> in center, look left, look/turn right, face up left etc etc.
>> Works very nice and btw you are not required to use FaceID though.
>> I really love face ID.
>> Especially when using ApplePay.
>> 
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>>> 
>>> Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried 
>>> about setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock 
>>> directions.  Any help is appreciated.
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RE: Voice Dream Writer odd invisible feature?

Hi Harry,
That is very useful.  It is how you navigate a document quickly, like in Voice 
Dream Reader.
The buttons related to that are below the document text.
Maybe he could add an option to hide those buttons when you are not editing, 
just reading.
I don't mind the layout as is.
Or, perhaps documents should open in read-only mode until you activate the Edit 
button.

Richard
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-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:28 AM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: Voice Dream Writer odd invisible feature?

When I open VDR and use dots 1-2-3 chord on Orbit Writer expecting to land on 
file manager, instead I land on an invisible (according to my sighted wife) row 
of buttons which VoiceOver describes as about choosing Lowest Level: headings, 
paragraph, sentence (selected) or edit. Only after moving right past these 
invisible options each time can I get to what I normally want - file manager or 
add new document. Is it possible to get rid of this new feature or does it 
serve some essential purpose?
Thanks
Harry

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RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

Apple could make this easier.
The Apple Accessibility rep had me reset both phones at the same time and you 
have to do the camera reconnect again, but it worked well.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

I called AppleCare about the new iPhone still updating when the screen has gone 
to sleep and the rep said it should still update. I’m not sure I’m convinced. 
After waiting almost 3 hours for the iOS 15.01 upgrade, I rebooted the new 
iPhone and am now getting a screen that says reconnecting. There is a Cancel 
button in the upper left corner of that screen and when I double tap on it, I 
get a message asking me if I’m sure I want to stop transferring data which will 
cause the iPhone to be reset and erased. I’m assuming the transfer is the 
redownload of my 250+ apps from the App Store. When I get up in the morning, I 
will check the status and if it is still transferring data, I’m going to reset 
and start again. For one who has been using these devices as long as I have, I 
think Apple could do a far sight better at making the setup process easier and 
more intuitive.

Alan

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

When I got into a long delay, I called Apple Accessibility and ended up having 
to reboot both phones at the same time.
The update probably has to finish before it will let you do squat.
I've given feedback to Apple before about the 30 second (explitive) but it will 
take a lot more feedback to get them to change that I guess.
Perhaps we all need to put it to them as an accessibility issue and have new 
phones switch to never, or 5 minutes as sooon as VoiceOver is turned on.
Good luck.


Richard
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 What I would do is go to settings as soon as you get voiceover turned on, 
Then display and brightness and that’s where you can change the sleeptime and 
you can’t change it yesterday as a default to 30 but you can change it easy
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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On Oct 9, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.

I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly
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RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

In iOS 15, if VoiceOver is being used during Face ID setup, automatically turns 
off Attention required.  A very nice improvement.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 4:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

The one thing that might be very helpful is to not set up the attention. Keep 
attention off because that way if you end up not looking directly into the 
camera it won’t matter.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Øyvind Lode  wrote:
> 
> No need to worry.
> It's very simple to set up FaceID and VoiceOver will guide you as you go a 
> long.
> VO will tell you to look into the camera and help you to get your face 
> in center, look left, look/turn right, face up left etc etc.
> Works very nice and btw you are not required to use FaceID though.
> I really love face ID.
> Especially when using ApplePay.
> 
>> On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 11:11, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried about 
>> setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock directions.  
>> Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

2021-10-10 Thread Charles Spicer

Good morning Cleverson and all!  Thank everyone for their responses
and I will be using my old charging blocks!
I am very pleased with the iPhone 13 mini so far.  I came from an
iPhone 7 and find the performance and snappiness of the 13 mini much
better.  The setup went smoothly as I brought the iPhone home and
updated it by placing it right next to my iPhone 7.  I have tested the
sound with the internal speakers and find it to have a decent sound
and with a definite improvement from my iPhone 7.  I have gotten 2
days of moderate use before charging the battery.  The USBC is faster
than the USBA but does produce more heat which I agree with others on
the list can shorten the battery life.  I have used the speaker phone
on a call and the other person came through very clear and with a good
volume.  I have used the earpiece on calls and find the caller clear
and at a good volume.  I have used my airpods for other calls and have
no issues hearing the caller or the caller hearing me.  A friend
commented that the sound they get on their end of a call is improved
over my iPhone 7.
I hope this has helped and please reach out if you have any questions.

Regards,
Charles


On 10/10/21, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> When my wife bought an iPhone 12 Pro last summer at an Apple store, we were
> given the choice of a new adapter, but we weren’t told anything negative
> about the old adapter other than it’ll take longer. BTW, we did decide to
> purchase a new adapter. IMHO, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with
> using one adapter over the other.
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>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 5:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging iPhone 13 Mini
>
> You definitely won't damage your device by charging it with an older USB A
> lightning charger. The same goes for power banks which use USB A ports. It's
> all absolutely safe to use. The newer adaptors and cables simply offer
> significantly greater speed delivered safely. Apple can vouch for its own
> adaptors so they may offer a greater degree of safety. They have a
> certification called MFI for third party accessories. If a power bank or
> cable has this certification, Apple has vouched them safe to use with their
> iPhones or iPads.
> It's really not all about greed on Apple's part. They genuinely feel they
> offer a better charging system. More likely, that it was a better system
> until fairly recently. At this point though, similar to the fate of the
> technically superior Betamax video tapes, the USB C standard has simply
> gained market dominance. I think Apple will have to bow to the inevidable
> and give up on Lightning charging withing perhaps the next three iterations
> of iPhone at the longest.
> I have one USB C adaptor and USB C to Lightning cable. They're at my desk
> where I think it most likely that I'll need speedy charging. I have my older
> Lightning chargers and cables everywhere else. Although I very much like
> Magsafe, I can't use it with the case I picked. The Apple Magsafe clear
> cases really don't give me confidence that they offer much protection at
> all. In the end, my desire for actual protection won out and I went with a
> Supcase Unicorn Beetle case for my new iPhone 13. I have a third party
> wireless charging pad which I still find convenient if somewhat more fidly
> to get the iPhone in the right position. It is able to charge through the
> protective case allowing me to use my Lightning port for earpods.
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:36 AM Arnold Schmidt
> mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> This is only my opinion, but I'll bet, over time, the battery life would be
> longer if it were charged with a usb charger, rather than the faster u s b c
> charger. Heat is the big enemy of these batteries, so the more slowly they
> are charged, the better. But Apple does not want their competition to have
> fast charging capability and they don't have it, or if only they have it,
> they can use the fact that they have it as a selling point, it is all about
> the dollar, you know. Besides, if fast charging ends up shortening the
> battery's life, they get to sell more batteries. Whatever.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>
> On Oct 9, 2021, at 11:27 PM, kitty hevener
> mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
> Charles, I recently heard a consumer news tip where the person was really
> testing to see if the USB c block really did charge faster than the USB a
> one.  He was using one of the more recent Iphones and said nothing about the
> A blocks possibly damaging the battery.  In fact, he charged the phone with
> the USB a block and noted that it was slower than the c one.  He led me to
> believe that they really both will work fine, one's just a little faster..
>
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>

RE: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

I'm not familiar with this keyboard, but you want to hold down the control and 
options keys in conjunction with other keys. The control+options keys held down 
together is called the VO key. You can also turn on quick navigation by holding 
down the left and right arrow keys at the same time. This will let you do a lot 
without having to use the VO key. Richard's web page has a lot of good 
resources. It's at Richard Turner's Home Page 
(turner42.com)

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about pluggable foldable Bluetooth keyboard

Hello,
Just wondering if anyone on this list has used or uses a pluggable foldable 
Bluetooth keyboard with their iPhone?
I can't seem to remember what the keyboard commands is to use VO commands.  
Right now when my phone is connected, I can swipe to things on my phone but I 
cannot activate anything with double tap gestures using the keyboard.  I can 
type into search fields and if I use the up and down arrows I can activate the 
context menus but can't activate anything.  I've actually even tried using 
space bar and the enter key as I would on a laptop keyboard but if memory 
serves there are actual keyboard commands to evoke VO functions when using a 
blue tooth keyboard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Johna

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Re: Focus issue

Try turning screen recognition off. Maybe that’ll work better. I didn’t realize 
my screen recognition was on for my messages and it went crazy. I turned it off 
and  allh  was good.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Marcos Rodrigues  
> wrote:
> 
> Good morning.
> 
> I seem to be having a focus issue on the new IOS 15 mainly when using screen 
> recognition.
> 
> Sometimes VO will say direct touch area and I have to turn VO off and on 
> again to be able to navegate again.
> 
> I was wondering if this is related to the new issue feature introduced on IOS 
> 15?
> 
> Regards.
> 
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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

Yes it is true.

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> On Oct 10, 2021, at 9:38 AM, RichardPetty  wrote:
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> So, is it true, then, that fingerprint ID is no longer available on iPhone 
> 13?
> 
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>>> On Oct 10, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but even 
>> before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun glasses 
>> on.
>>  
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
>> Nalda
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>> Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id
>>  
>> The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then 
>> the only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. 
>> I’ve never gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a 
>> loop as well. If you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, 
>> as long as you use your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you 
>> raise your phone for access. 
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RE: New hand gestures on Apple watch

I'm also curious if anyone has had any success with these gestures.

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Subject: New hand gestures on Apple watch

Hi all,
I thought I would try these out. I turned them on in the watch app, but the 
watch is not responding to the clenches or pinches. I've restarted my watch.

Thanks in advance
Ian

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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

2021-10-10 Thread RichardPetty

So, is it true, then, that fingerprint ID is no longer available on iPhone 13?

Richard Petty
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> On Oct 10, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but even 
> before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun glasses 
> on.
>  
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id
>  
> The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
> only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve 
> never gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as 
> well. If you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long 
> as you use your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise 
> your phone for access. 
> 
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> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> On Oct 10, 2021, at 4:11 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
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> 
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RE: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

When my wife bought an iPhone 12 Pro last summer at an Apple store, we were 
given the choice of a new adapter, but we weren’t told anything negative about 
the old adapter other than it’ll take longer. BTW, we did decide to purchase a 
new adapter. IMHO, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using one adapter 
over the other.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

You definitely won't damage your device by charging it with an older USB A 
lightning charger. The same goes for power banks which use USB A ports. It's 
all absolutely safe to use. The newer adaptors and cables simply offer 
significantly greater speed delivered safely. Apple can vouch for its own 
adaptors so they may offer a greater degree of safety. They have a 
certification called MFI for third party accessories. If a power bank or cable 
has this certification, Apple has vouched them safe to use with their iPhones 
or iPads.
It's really not all about greed on Apple's part. They genuinely feel they offer 
a better charging system. More likely, that it was a better system until fairly 
recently. At this point though, similar to the fate of the technically superior 
Betamax video tapes, the USB C standard has simply gained market dominance. I 
think Apple will have to bow to the inevidable and give up on Lightning 
charging withing perhaps the next three iterations of iPhone at the longest.
I have one USB C adaptor and USB C to Lightning cable. They're at my desk where 
I think it most likely that I'll need speedy charging. I have my older 
Lightning chargers and cables everywhere else. Although I very much like 
Magsafe, I can't use it with the case I picked. The Apple Magsafe clear cases 
really don't give me confidence that they offer much protection at all. In the 
end, my desire for actual protection won out and I went with a Supcase Unicorn 
Beetle case for my new iPhone 13. I have a third party wireless charging pad 
which I still find convenient if somewhat more fidly to get the iPhone in the 
right position. It is able to charge through the protective case allowing me to 
use my Lightning port for earpods.

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:36 AM Arnold Schmidt 
mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is only my opinion, but I'll bet, over time, the battery life would be 
longer if it were charged with a usb charger, rather than the faster u s b c 
charger. Heat is the big enemy of these batteries, so the more slowly they are 
charged, the better. But Apple does not want their competition to have fast 
charging capability and they don't have it, or if only they have it, they can 
use the fact that they have it as a selling point, it is all about the dollar, 
you know. Besides, if fast charging ends up shortening the battery's life, they 
get to sell more batteries. Whatever.

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Oct 9, 2021, at 11:27 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Charles, I recently heard a consumer news tip where the person was really 
testing to see if the USB c block really did charge faster than the USB a one.  
He was using one of the more recent Iphones and said nothing about the A blocks 
possibly damaging the battery.  In fact, he charged the phone with the USB a 
block and noted that it was slower than the c one.  He led me to believe that 
they really both will work fine, one's just a little faster..

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

I just bought my iphone 13 mini and was told the same thing.  I went ahead and 
bought the usBC recommended charging block.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Charles Spicer
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

Hello, I hope everyone is safe and well.  When I purchased my iPhone
13 mini the representative told me that it is not recommended to use the 
charging block and cables that we all have from buying prior iPhones.  She 
advised that it may damage the battery and it is recommended to use the new 
charging block and cables with the USBC connection.
Has anyone heard this and do you agree with only using the new charging blocks 
and cables to charge iPhone 13?
Thank you!
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RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but even 
before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun glasses on.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve never 
gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as well. If 
you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long as you use 
your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise your phone for 
access.
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


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Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried about 
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Re: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

2021-10-10 Thread Peter Logan

Somebody was just trying to make an extra sale… There is absolutely no evidence 
that the slower five lot chargers will damage anything on these phones… I think 
you got taken…

Sent from my IPhone.

> On Oct 9, 2021, at 10:04 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
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> I just bought my iphone 13 mini and was told the same thing.  I went ahead 
> and bought the usBC recommended charging block.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Hello, I hope everyone is safe and well.  When I purchased my iPhone
> 13 mini the representative told me that it is not recommended to use the 
> charging block and cables that we all have from buying prior iPhones.  She 
> advised that it may damage the battery and it is recommended to use the new 
> charging block and cables with the USBC connection.
> Has anyone heard this and do you agree with only using the new charging 
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> Thank you!
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Re: mama peach missing


I'm lad to hear it. stay safe.  Janet6

On 10/10/2021 14:01, MamaPeach wrote:

I am okay, thanks for worrying about me.

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has anyone heard from Mama Peech lately hope she is ok.  Janet



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Focus issue

2021-10-10 Thread Marcos Rodrigues

Good morning.

I seem to be having a focus issue on the new IOS 15 mainly when using screen 
recognition.

Sometimes VO will say direct touch area and I have to turn VO off and on again 
to be able to navegate again.

I was wondering if this is related to the new issue feature introduced on IOS 
15?

Regards.

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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

2021-10-10 Thread Pete Nalda

The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve never 
gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as well. If 
you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long as you use 
your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise your phone for 
access. 

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RE: mama peach missing

2021-10-10 Thread MamaPeach

I am okay, thanks for worrying about me.

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has anyone heard from Mama Peech lately hope she is ok.  Janet

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Re: mama peach missing

2021-10-10 Thread Johna Gravitt

Yes you are referring to the woman who posts recipes, her last post was Friday 
morning, October 8

Sent from my iPhone

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mama peach missing


has anyone heard from Mama Peech lately hope she is ok.  Janet

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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

2021-10-10 Thread Mickey Quenzer


You also should temporary disable any antivirus software while using this 
method.



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I called AppleCare about the new iPhone still updating when the screen has gone 
to sleep and the rep said it should still update. I’m not sure I’m convinced. 
After waiting almost 3 hours for the iOS 15.01 upgrade, I rebooted the new 
iPhone and am now getting a screen that says reconnecting. There is a Cancel 
button in the upper left corner of that screen and when I double tap on it, I 
get a message asking me if I’m sure I want to stop transferring data which will 
cause the iPhone to be reset and erased. I’m assuming the transfer is the 
redownload of my 250+ apps from the App Store. When I get up in the morning, I 
will check the status and if it is still transferring data, I’m going to reset 
and start again. For one who has been using these devices as long as I have, I 
think Apple could do a far sight better at making the setup process easier and 
more intuitive.



Alan



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When I got into a long delay, I called Apple Accessibility and ended up having 
to reboot both phones at the same time.

The update probably has to finish before it will let you do squat.

I've given feedback to Apple before about the 30 second (explitive) but it will 
take a lot more feedback to get them to change that I guess.

Perhaps we all need to put it to them as an accessibility issue and have new 
phones switch to never, or 5 minutes as sooon as VoiceOver is turned on.

Good luck.





Richard

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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 What I would do is go to settings as soon as you get voiceover turned on, 
Then display and brightness and that’s where you can change the sleeptime and 
you can’t change it yesterday as a default to 30 but you can change it easy

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

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On Oct 9, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Alan Lemly 
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Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

2021-10-10 Thread Mickey Quenzer

Hello Allen:
The best thing I would suggest you do if you’re still having trouble with the 
set up is to get iTunes running on either the Mac or a PC. Make sure you are 
running the latest iTunes software version. Another words check for updates 
before you connect your iPhone 13.
 then plug your iPhone 13 in.
Reboot using the volume up volume down side button hold the side button until 
you hear your iPhone connect.
Then you should be able to continue the update and it will work. What I found 
is the iPhone 15 software is too big and needs to be  using the iPhone iTunes 
program to do the old update method as we used to do a long time ago. This 
method is still used when you were having trouble with an over the Air app 
update.


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I called AppleCare about the new iPhone still updating when the screen has gone 
to sleep and the rep said it should still update. I’m not sure I’m convinced. 
After waiting almost 3 hours for the iOS 15.01 upgrade, I rebooted the new 
iPhone and am now getting a screen that says reconnecting. There is a Cancel 
button in the upper left corner of that screen and when I double tap on it, I 
get a message asking me if I’m sure I want to stop transferring data which will 
cause the iPhone to be reset and erased. I’m assuming the transfer is the 
redownload of my 250+ apps from the App Store. When I get up in the morning, I 
will check the status and if it is still transferring data, I’m going to reset 
and start again. For one who has been using these devices as long as I have, I 
think Apple could do a far sight better at making the setup process easier and 
more intuitive.



Alan



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Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 11:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be



When I got into a long delay, I called Apple Accessibility and ended up having 
to reboot both phones at the same time.

The update probably has to finish before it will let you do squat.

I've given feedback to Apple before about the 30 second (explitive) but it will 
take a lot more feedback to get them to change that I guess.

Perhaps we all need to put it to them as an accessibility issue and have new 
phones switch to never, or 5 minutes as sooon as VoiceOver is turned on.

Good luck.





Richard

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Jane Wagner











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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Pete Nalda 
mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 What I would do is go to settings as soon as you get voiceover turned on, 
Then display and brightness and that’s where you can change the sleeptime and 
you can’t change it yesterday as a default to 30 but you can change it easy

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates

Louie P (Pete) Nalda

Facebook.com/lpnalda

Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda

Twitter: @lpnalda



On Oct 9, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Alan Lemly 
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Hi List,



I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got it 
connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got this 
started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new iPhone 
to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour and I’m 
losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is set by 
default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the screen 
every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I believe will 
stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the volume up, volume 
down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.



I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.



Alan Lemly

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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

The one thing that might be very helpful is to not set up the attention. Keep 
attention off because that way if you end up not looking directly into the 
camera it won’t matter.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Øyvind Lode  wrote:
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> No need to worry.
> It's very simple to set up FaceID and VoiceOver will guide you as you go a 
> long.
> VO will tell you to look into the camera and help you to get your face
> in center, look left, look/turn right, face up left etc etc.
> Works very nice and btw you are not required to use FaceID though.
> I really love face ID.
> Especially when using ApplePay.
> 
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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

2021-10-10 Thread Øyvind Lode

No need to worry.
It's very simple to set up FaceID and VoiceOver will guide you as you go a long.
VO will tell you to look into the camera and help you to get your face
in center, look left, look/turn right, face up left etc etc.
Works very nice and btw you are not required to use FaceID though.
I really love face ID.
Especially when using ApplePay.

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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

2021-10-10 Thread Michael Feir

I don't find it difficult. Just hold the iPhone out in front of you
vertically at around a foot away. Start with the top of the iPhone level
with your nose. Perhaps, a little higher. When the FAce ID setup telss you
to, imagine the front of your face as a crank handle you need to turn to
the right. You need to move your head so that the camera at the top of the
front of your iPhone gets to see your whole face. Another step has you
turning your face from side to side. You may have to go through the process
two or three times to get it rhght and catch all of the instructions since
they can get cut off as the camera takes in your face. It's not a very long
process. It takes less than a minute.
After you're finished and it's satisfied that the model of your face that
it has built is good, you just have to turn your face toward the iPhone
when required and it will unlock. You'll hear a click sound when it's
unlocked. You then use the home gesture by touching the bottom of the
iPhone screen and sliding your finger up until the second bump and high
pitched tick. Lift your finger and you'll be on your home screen. Very
simple.

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:11 AM Dennis Long  wrote:

> Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried
> about setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock
> directions.  Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

2021-10-10 Thread Michael Feir

You definitely won't damage your device by charging it with an older USB A
lightning charger. The same goes for power banks which use USB A ports.
It's all absolutely safe to use. The newer adaptors and cables simply offer
significantly greater speed delivered safely. Apple can vouch for its own
adaptors so they may offer a greater degree of safety. They have a
certification called MFI for third party accessories. If a power bank or
cable has this certification, Apple has vouched them safe to use with their
iPhones or iPads.
It's really not all about greed on Apple's part. They genuinely feel they
offer a better charging system. More likely, that it was a better system
until fairly recently. At this point though, similar to the fate of the
technically superior Betamax video tapes, the USB C standard has simply
gained market dominance. I think Apple will have to bow to the inevidable
and give up on Lightning charging withing perhaps the next three iterations
of iPhone at the longest.
I have one USB C adaptor and USB C to Lightning cable. They're at my desk
where I think it most likely that I'll need speedy charging. I have my
older Lightning chargers and cables everywhere else. Although I very much
like Magsafe, I can't use it with the case I picked. The Apple Magsafe
clear cases really don't give me confidence that they offer much protection
at all. In the end, my desire for actual protection won out and I went with
a Supcase Unicorn Beetle case for my new iPhone 13. I have a third party
wireless charging pad which I still find convenient if somewhat more fidly
to get the iPhone in the right position. It is able to charge through the
protective case allowing me to use my Lightning port for earpods.

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:36 AM Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

> This is only my opinion, but I'll bet, over time, the battery life would
> be longer if it were charged with a usb charger, rather than the faster u s
> b c charger. Heat is the big enemy of these batteries, so the more slowly
> they are charged, the better. But Apple does not want their competition to
> have fast charging capability and they don't have it, or if only they have
> it, they can use the fact that they have it as a selling point, it is all
> about the dollar, you know. Besides, if fast charging ends up shortening
> the battery's life, they get to sell more batteries. Whatever.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>
> On Oct 9, 2021, at 11:27 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>
> Charles, I recently heard a consumer news tip where the person was really
> testing to see if the USB c block really did charge faster than the USB a
> one.  He was using one of the more recent Iphones and said nothing about
> the A blocks possibly damaging the battery.  In fact, he charged the phone
> with the USB a block and noted that it was slower than the c one.  He led
> me to believe that they really both will work fine, one's just a little
> faster..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Paula Jordan
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Charging iPhone 13 Mini
>
> I just bought my iphone 13 mini and was told the same thing.  I went ahead
> and bought the usBC recommended charging block.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Charles Spicer
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Charging iPhone 13 Mini
>
> Hello, I hope everyone is safe and well.  When I purchased my iPhone
> 13 mini the representative told me that it is not recommended to use the
> charging block and cables that we all have from buying prior iPhones.  She
> advised that it may damage the battery and it is recommended to use the new
> charging block and cables with the USBC connection.
> Has anyone heard this and do you agree with only using the new charging
> blocks and cables to charge iPhone 13?
> Thank you!
> Charles
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thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

2021-10-10 Thread Dennis Long

Hi, I'm totally blind I'm thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I'm worried about
setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I'm not great with clock directions.
Any help is appreciated.

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Voice Dream Writer odd invisible feature?

2021-10-10 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone

When I open VDR and use dots 1-2-3 chord on Orbit Writer expecting to land on 
file manager, instead I land on an invisible (according to my sighted wife) row 
of buttons which VoiceOver describes as about choosing Lowest Level: headings, 
paragraph, sentence (selected) or edit. Only after moving right past these 
invisible options each time can I get to what I normally want - file manager or 
add new document. Is it possible to get rid of this new feature or does it 
serve some essential purpose?
Thanks
Harry

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Re: Blood Pressure Testing Device Opinions

Hi Simon when it arrives will you let me know what it is like and if it 
is easy to set up.  Janet ps and also what app you need to use it.  and 
one final thing can you use it in any country?  Janet


On 10/10/2021 07:05, Simon A Fogarty wrote:


Hi Mike,

I’d love to tell you abou the qardio arm blood pressure monitor I have,

But although I’ve ordered and paid for it,

It hasn’t’ yet arrived at my door,

Some globle issue with shipping thingns

But it’s the one that was recommended by many  blind / visually 
impaired folks.


So I only hope it’s worth the wait.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Mike B.

*Sent:* Sunday, 10 October 2021 5:58 pm
*To:* viPhone 
*Subject:* Blood Pressure Testing Device Opinions

Hi All,

I'm in the market of replacing my current Reizen blood pressure 
testing machine, mainly because it's almost 20 years old and seems to 
be reporting irraticly.


The hose doesn't seem to have any cracks, and the hose seems to plug 
in an seal sufficiently


So, I'm looking for a replacement device and would like to get 
opinions of some good talking blood pressure testing machines from all 
you good folks.


All input is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"

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RE: Blood Pressure Testing Device Opinions