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Re: Seeing AI

2017-07-16 Thread Chris Smart


Yo. That be funny!

Dictation fail!


At 06:19 PM 7/16/2017, you wrote:

I have it on my five ass.

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 16, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


Yes, Richard posted initially he has a 5S and 
6S and listed the functions available and I 
guess Products is not available on the 5S.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Downey

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:43 PM
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Subject: Seeing AI

Hi there,

I donâ€™t seem to have the option of 
identifying products with this app using an 
IPhone 5S. Is this what they mean by working better with more modern phones?


Debbie
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Re: New podcaast series on how to create a 3D game now available

2017-07-16 Thread Chris Smart

so are the rest of us. What's your point?

At 03:26 AM 7/16/2017, you wrote:

Im blind
Afik.

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Hello,

Can you contact me privately please?
I want to learn to code on swift.

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Hi Everyone,

I'm the software dev from OSeyeris, and I'm
happy to present you a tutorial series I have
started that will help you create and code your
own 3D binaural experiences using swift, playground and Xcode.

I have tried to broaden the audience as much as
possible, from those who wish to understand
code more to those who already have advanced knowledge.

Our podcast series are in youtube video format
but the example code for each tutorial is available on our website.

Here is the link to the intro video where I
demonstrate a fully featured 3D audio game we
are working on and hoping to release soon as a
set of applications to play and start creating
your own immersive world. We are also currently
beta testing thee engine with a local school
for special needs and the response has been overwhelmingly positive.

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-0-introduction

If you go through the lab page, this is where
all the tutorials and their associated files and youtube videos will reside.

I will be posting 18 videos in total, starting
from the basics and ramping up progressively to
more interesting features such as A.I behavior,
networking for multiplay, audio engine filters
and accoustics, direct recording and playback
as well as some SegueWay videos on some coding
concepts to make your code and 3D application more efficient.

Finally, as I have started this series, the
format might need some improvements, so please
don't hesitate to contact me and tell me your
thoughts or how you would like the tutorials to go forward.

Also, if you already have some swift knowledge,
contact me and maybe we can work together to
complete the platform as it includes many many
features, and is not limited to playing games
but has applications in education, audio
editing and virtual audio reality. It can be
hosted on OSX, IOS, appleTV and can also be
controlled with a Leap motion infrared
controller. I will release a video very shortly
with a demonstration of the Leap motion which
can capture 3D volumetric information of your hands.

Let's do this guys, and have a fantastic end of weekend :)

Yuma Antoine Decaux
OSS
www.oseyeris.com

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Re: Want to upgrade to the latest version of VDR, but I'm kind of worried about importing things from Safari using the extention.

2017-07-16 Thread Chris Smart


voice dream reader?

At 12:22 AM 7/16/2017, you wrote:

Hello,

What is vdr?

Jan

On Jul 15, 2017, at 11:54 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
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Hello Ari,

I haven't used the extension, but I have added a URL to Voice Dream 
Reader. I often download Tek Talk presentation archives, so I added

www.accessibleworld.org

When I choose that option, the Accessible World page opens. When I 
double-tap an MP3, it downloads into Voice Dream Reader. there's a 
progress bar at the bottom of the screen. It works really well.


HTH,
Anna



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I want to upgrade to the latest version of VDR, but I'm worried 
about using VDR's Safari extension two import things I find on the 
web into VDR. i've never gotten this to work reliably in the past. 
I find it confusing. There's a done button, and the save button, 
and whatever I do, nothing seems to work. Could somebody walk me 
through using this extension, particularly for saving things like 
MP3s into Voice Dream Reader? Right now, I've taken to saving MP3s 
I find on safari to dropbox, then importing them into Voice Dream 
Reader that way.



Thanks,
Ari

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Re: Accessible Scale with IOS

2017-07-15 Thread Chris Smart


True. So in the spirit of helping, try this:

1. Type
qardio scale amazon
into Google. At least for me, the very first 
search result was the product page on amazon.com 
for the scale being discussed.


2. Follow that first link.

3. look for the price on the page which comes up.
The price listed is $129.99.

P.S. Did you know you can include punctuation 
when you dictate text to your phone? Doing so 
definitely makes your writing more legible, not 
to mention stops you from sounding breathless.

http://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-dictation-tips-and-tricks-2017-2

At 08:52 PM 7/14/2017, you wrote:
Hi Chris if you do a google search it just takes 
you round in circles a lot of the time so it is 
quicker to ask someone els for help remember 
we're not all computer savi like you seem to be


Janet

-Original Message- From: Chris Smart
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Are you capable of doing a Google search?

At 06:08 PM 7/14/2017, you wrote:

Hello how much is this scale?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible Scale with IOS

Yep, the qardio scale works great, and it even measures body fat percentages.

The app works on I OS and is accessible..  The 
scale isnÃ¢€ââ„¢t cheap, but itÃ¢€™s well worth the price, imho!

!


HTH,
Caitlyn

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Hello,

Has anyone found a reliable digital scale that 
interfaces with the iPhone, preferably one that 
also measures BMI or percentage of body fat? 
Any suggestions would be great. Thanks.


Suzanne



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Re: Accessible Scale with IOS

2017-07-15 Thread Chris Smart


oh you're definitely right, and I'm sorry for my snarky response there.
I guess it just perplexes me why someone would 
post a question and wait up to several hours for 
a response, when probably five minutes or less 
with Google or similar search somewhere would give them the answer they want.


At 07:40 PM 7/14/2017, you wrote:
Chris, Iâ€™m not saying itâ€™s right, but itâ€™s 
often a lot easier to ask than to try and find out.


Get <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>Outlook for iOS



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Are you capable of doing a Google search?


At 06:08 PM 7/14/2017, you wrote:

>Hello how much is this scale?

>

>From: viphone@googlegroups.com

>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness

>Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:04 PM

>To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>Subject: Re: Accessible Scale with IOS

>

>Yep, the qardio scale works great, and it even 
measures body fat percentages.


>

>The app works on I OS and is accessible..  The

>scale isnÃ¢€™t cheap, but itÃ¢€â„â‚¬â„¢s well worth the price, imho!

>

>HTH,

>Caitlyn

>

>On Jul 14, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Suzanne Wilson

><therealsuzannewil...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>Hello,

>

>Has anyone found a reliable digital scale that

>interfaces with the iPhone, preferably one that

>also measures BMI or percentage of body fat? Any

>suggestions would be great. Thanks.

>

>Suzanne

>

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RE: Accessible Scale with IOS

2017-07-14 Thread Chris Smart


Are you capable of doing a Google search?

At 06:08 PM 7/14/2017, you wrote:

Hello how much is this scale?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible Scale with IOS

Yep, the qardio scale works great, and it even measures body fat percentages.

The app works on I OS and is accessible..  The 
scale isnâ€™t cheap, but itâ€™s well worth the price, imho!


HTH,
Caitlyn

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<therealsuzannewil...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello,

Has anyone found a reliable digital scale that 
interfaces with the iPhone, preferably one that 
also measures BMI or percentage of body fat? Any 
suggestions would be great. Thanks.


Suzanne



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Seeing AI: First Impressions | The New Hofstader.com

2017-07-14 Thread Chris Smart


Article at:
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Re: Seeing AI and faces.

2017-07-14 Thread Chris Smart

If the ambient light level is low where you are, you probably need 
the flash to eluminate what you are taking a picture of.


Does anybody else think that there might be a need developing for a 
short course in using the camera on these devices, for totally blind 
folks who want to increase their success rate taking pictures of things?


At 12:56 AM 7/14/2017, you wrote:
I'm using the back. Also... should flash be on or off? What have you 
all found is the best?

Jen


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Which camera are you using. The front or the back. I think when 
you take a picture of yourself it using the back camera.

> Mr. Ed
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> -Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr

> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:21 AM
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> Subject: Seeing AI and faces.
>
> Hi all.
> I'm trying to take a picture of myself.  The camera says there is 
1 face... centered... I don't move the camera and I then get an 
announcement saying 0 faces.  I haven't moved the camera from its 
position where I got the one face message.  What am I doing wrong?
> Also, if I take the picture seeing AI says no people could be 
detected.  Help?

> Thanks.
> Jen
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Re: A couple of requests

2017-07-14 Thread Chris Smart


we are getting all your messages Karen.
At 08:59 AM 7/13/2017, you wrote:
I've sent 4 messages to this group in the past 3 days, and none of 
them appear to have reached the group.  I seem to be receiving 
messages from the group, but for some reason mine aren't getting 
through, so I'm not receiving answers to my questions.


Just trying again.

My first 3 messages contained a request to see whether anyone has 
had any experience with the Pioneer Remote app, IControl AV5.


The other had to do with the Seeing AI app.  The one I found in the 
app store appeared to be the same one discussed on the list, but I 
couldn't find where the price indicated it was free.  When my 
husband looked at it, he said it cost $13.95.  I downloaded it, 
hoping to be able to use the bar code feature.  That feature does 
not appear to be available on the iPhone 5S.  Any suggestions?


Karen P


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RE: microsoft seeing ai project

2017-07-14 Thread Chris Smart


NO!
How are you spelling the name of the app? Don't 
get Seeing Eye Confused with Seeing AI.


At 02:07 PM 7/12/2017, you wrote:

The one I found was $13.95.Â  Is it the same one?

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: microsoft seeing ai project

I just now downloaded on my SE.
It was absolutely free for me, and I live in the US; Florida.
This oneâ€™s a definite home run for sure!

This appâ€™s gonna blow those high dollar smart glasses away, I think.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Janet Bell

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: microsoft seeing ai project

has anybody downloaded the app for this 
project?  If so how good is it and how much does 
it cost.  I know it isnâ€™t available in the 
u.k. yet but just wondered what it actually can do.


Janet
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Re: Is anyone using Amazing Slowdowner app?

2017-07-13 Thread Chris Smart

well, if you're a musician learning tunes by ear, it allows you to 
slow the audio down without changing the pitch. Of course, looking 
the app up in the App Store will probably give you a description of 
it, reviews from users, etc.


At 04:11 PM 7/13/2017, you wrote:

What's the purpose of this app? sounds interesting in a puzzled sort of way.

- Original Message -
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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:21 PM
Subject: Is anyone using Amazing Slowdowner app?


Hi,

Is anyone using the Amazing SlowDowner app? If so, could you please 
provide tips for defining and adjusting loop parameters? I can
do it, but it's a bit cumbersome for me and is hit and miss. I'm 
wondering if I'm missing something that would permit easier use.


Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: accessibility for app developers

2017-07-13 Thread Chris Smart

Write a review of the app in the App Store, 
pointing out the accessibility problems and give it a lower rating.


Consider including this link:
https://www.applevis.com/developers


At 09:11 AM 7/13/2017, you wrote:

Hi folks

If we encounter apps that are not that 
accessible, most of us want to provide 
communications to the makers of that app to make it accessible.
I know there is a link to provide them: 
https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/ 

But that link only shows up the accessibility 
features in Apple which is nice but isâ€™t there 
a platform on which developers can find ways to 
make their unaccessible app better?


Regards
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Re: Microsoft SeeingAI

2017-07-13 Thread Chris Smart

yes.

At 08:58 AM 7/13/2017, you wrote:

Is it free?

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:44 AM, jazzyjennifer  wrote:
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> yeah same with me, i am using the IPhone SE and i didnt use it 
for long, and i knowtest it draind my battery. quite quickly.

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Re: Microsoft SeeingAI

2017-07-13 Thread Chris Smart


yes. if the flashlight and camera are on constantly, that isn't surprising.

At 07:23 AM 7/13/2017, you wrote:

I am using iPhone SE, whenever I am using this app, it is causing my
phone to get quite warm and draining the battery fast. .

On 7/13/17, 'é ¾ æ™ºæ˜Ž' via VIPhone  wrote:
> I think it's a very beginning so give some time to be improved
>
> Ming
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>> Jessica |M  æ¼ 
2017å¹´7æœˆ13æ—¥ ä¸‹å ˆ2:22 å¯«é “ï¼š

>>
>> The first time, it told me I was a 22-year-old man with black hair,
>> looking happy, and the second time it raised my age to 25.  I have dark
>> brown shoulder-length hair, though I'd just gotten out of the shower at
>> the time of the picture, so I can give some leeway for the black.  I
>> suppose some men do have that length of hair, but I should hope I don't
>> look like a man!  The age was a nice compliment though, as I'm about ten
>> years older than the mid-twenties it pegged me as.
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>> At 08:40 PM 7/12/2017, you wrote:
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>>> It tells me IÃ¢€™m a 75-year-old man with black haihair, looking happy. I
>>> must say that after I heard that, I did not look happy. Either I have
>>> changed a lot and not in a good way, or the app needs a bit of work.
>>> Kristeen
>>>
>>> > On Jul 12, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Patti Johnson 
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>>> > I'm the invisible woman because when I took a picture of myself it
>>> > said no people.
>>> > I wonder what it would say if I took a picture of my dog?
>>> > Maybe I'll  try that and find out.  I couldn't get the bar code to
>>> > work, it beeped a couple times but then quit, wouldn't read canned
>>> > goods.
>>> > But the text thing, that is neat since I've never had the experience
>>> > of anything reading text to me, never had that luck.
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Re: Seeing AI review

2017-07-13 Thread Chris Smart


assuming you folks actually mena currency.

At 11:23 PM 7/12/2017, you wrote:
I have a 7+, and there is no special channel that I am seeing for 
Currensy. There is a person, seen, short text, product and document.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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<kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> wrote:


I noticed in one of the tutorial he said that it could read 
Currensy. Do you know if that a special channel that is offered on 
the seven? It doesn't appear to be available on the 6S.


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On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


First, for those who missed the details from the app description, 
this is a research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it 
continues to develop and improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a 
first release, this is extremely impressive.


It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.

I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.

The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels, available:
Short Text
Document
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also 
have Face Recognition.


The 6s has:
Short Text
Document
Product
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.

I have tested out all the channels.
Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of 
my computer when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the 
computer screen and almost immediately found out that Windows 10 
was dealing with updates.
Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing 
AI kept up with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.


Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good 
as KNFB reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the 
phone and will tell you to hold steady when it has the whole page 
in view and will automatically take the picture.  The biggest 
advantage of this app though is that it maintains the 
formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and it will 
separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with 
VoiceOver.  Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this 
point add a second page, but this is worth a lot to me.


Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold 
it a ways away from the object depending on how big the object 
is.  A small can, you can be closer than with a large box.  Once it 
sees a bar code, it will start beeping and the beeps get faster and 
then you want to hold steady and it will tell you the result.  Far 
faster than any other bar code app I have used.


Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera 
view, then if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and 
age of the person.  My wife it said was 41 the first time and she 
is 62.  But, people have always said she looks much younger than 
she is.  They probably didn't mean that young though, grin.


Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the 
scene when you take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.


Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take 
three pictures of someone, or have them take three pictures of 
themselves, then an edit box will appear and you can write in their name.
When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they 
are.  This works very quickly once you get a label entered.


I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, 
so I'm not sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of 
the app when I try to use it on the Touch.


At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.

Just my two cents worth.

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Re: microsoft seeing ai project

2017-07-12 Thread Chris Smart


LOL see the subject line of this very message for your answer.

At 03:28 PM 7/12/2017, you wrote:

What is the app actually called?

Get <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>Outlook for iOS



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Are you tap tap see a lot and I like what this 
thing is doing over attack taxi because it gives 
you the information you want. A lot of times I 
have to take multiple pictures with TapTapSee to 
get the information I'm looking for and this is 
pretty specific. We are now working on trying to 
figure out how to get it to read displays and microwaves and things like that.


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On Jul 12, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Hooper, Robert M. 
<<mailto:hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu>hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu> wrote:


How do those who have tried the scene channel on 
Microsoft's app think it compares to the Tap Tap 
See app in terms of accuracy, ease of use, etc.?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Tom Lange 
<<mailto:lang...@gmail.com>lang...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi,
I must say, I'm quite impressed with the short 
text, document and product functions of this app 
so far. Haven't played with the Scene Beta and 
Person (face recognition)  functions much yet. 
I've got lots of exploring to do and I intend to 
do just that when I get home tonight. I'd say 
that this is a pretty darn good app, a definite 
keeper. However, be forewarned that it may drain 
your batteries pretty quickly, so watch out for that. Nice job, Microsoft.



Tom


Sent from my iPhone 7

On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Patti Johnson 
<<mailto:pattigj1...@gmail.com>pattigj1...@gmail.com> wrote:


For some one that had very rare luck with the knfb reader, to have it
read partial envelopes is a step up, grin.
Patti
On 7/12/17, Peter Logan 
<<mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com>pdlloga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Blows Digit Eyes away on bar code identification...and KNFB away on text ...
very fast!  Excellent job Microsoft .. and I can tend to be a MS hater

Sent from my iPhone

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<<mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:


try googling or watching some of the tutorial videos on Youtube.
I just posted a link.

At 12:29 PM 7/12/2017, you wrote:

can you let us know what it actually does please?

From: Mike Ulrich
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To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: microsoft seeing ai project

I just now downloaded on my SE.
It was absolutely free for me, and I live in the US; Florida.
This oneÃ¢€™s a definite home run for sure!

This appÃ¢€™s„¢s gonna blow those high dollar smart glasses away, I think.

From: 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Behalf Of Janet Bell
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Subject: microsoft seeing ai project

has anybody downloaded the app for this project?  If so how good is it
and how much does it cost.  I know it 
isnÃ¢€™t avaivailable in the u.k. yet

but just wondered what it actually can do.

Janet
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Re: microsoft seeing ai project

2017-07-12 Thread Chris Smart


try googling or watching some of the tutorial videos on Youtube.
I just posted a link.

At 12:29 PM 7/12/2017, you wrote:

can you let us know what it actually does please?

From: Mike Ulrich
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Subject: RE: microsoft seeing ai project

I just now downloaded on my SE.
It was absolutely free for me, and I live in the US; Florida.
This oneâ€™s a definite home run for sure!

This appâ€™s gonna blow those high dollar smart glasses away, I think.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Janet Bell

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 12:18 PM
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Subject: microsoft seeing ai project

has anybody downloaded the app for this 
project?  If so how good is it and how much does 
it cost.  I know it isnâ€™t available in the 
u.k. yet but just wondered what it actually can do.


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RE: microsoft seeing ai project

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it's free

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I just now downloaded on my SE.
It was absolutely free for me, and I live in the US; Florida.
This oneâ€™s a definite home run for sure!

This appâ€™s gonna blow those high dollar smart glasses away, I think.

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has anybody downloaded the app for this 
project?  If so how good is it and how much does 
it cost.  I know it isnâ€™t available in the 
u.k. yet but just wondered what it actually can do.


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Re: microsoft seeing ai project

2017-07-12 Thread Chris Smart

Watch: Nine Seeing AI app tutorials, Begin here: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzu9cfPYOzY=1=PLD7HFcN7LXRdXafTJ1MnbFtdeDFl_AvMv


At 12:17 PM 7/12/2017, you wrote:
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project?  If so how good is it and how much does 
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u.k. yet but just wondered what it actually can do.


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Re: microsoft seeing ai project

2017-07-12 Thread Chris Smart

check your spelling. it's A I as in the abbreviation for artificial 
inteligence. because hey, that's the technology being used here. Get 
it? Clever folks, Microsoft.


At 11:34 AM 7/12/2017, you wrote:

Hi all, what is the name of the app?  I did a search for Seeing Eye
Project, with no results!

Thanks in advance:
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Microsoft's Seeing AI app Now Available.

2017-07-12 Thread Chris Smart


More info at:
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RE: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

2017-07-11 Thread Chris Smart


as in a way to possibly sign a document digitally.

you haven't had someone mail you a PDF document they need signed and 
emailed back to them?


At 05:49 AM 7/11/2017, you wrote:

I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
Signature; as in using for what?
Thanks and much appreciated!

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it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it 
placed on the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
>
> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>
> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the
> need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with
> the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with
> the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it
> into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
> Scan a document
> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the
> Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, 
if you want).

> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and
> looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device
> directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed
> its document scanner to work from various angles.
> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a
> scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there
> is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to 
find the document.

> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left
> corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning multiple
> pages. When you're done, tap Save.
> Adjust the scan
> There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact
> corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to adjust
> the corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper spot and
> then tap Save.
> A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your
> finger too close to the corner. If you're in the general area, you can
> drag and adjust as needed. Otherwise, you cover the magnifying glass
> and can't see your adjustments.
> Then what?
> Adjust the color scheme of a scanned document, sign, highlight
> sections, share or save the document using the iOS 11 share sheet.
> Select the Markup as PDF option to covert the scan to a PDF, draw on
> it using your finger on an iPhone or iPad, or use the Apple Pencil to
> mark it up on an iPad Pro.
>
> Original Article at:
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Re: Another question about gps apps

2017-07-11 Thread Chris Smart


that was useful Sandy.

At 05:11 AM 7/11/2017, you wrote:
I think you are confusing Ariadne in the 
Minotaurs Labyrinth with Hansel and Gretel.


The problem with breadcrumbs is birds tend to eat them!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

>
> On the outward trip, you make way-points at 
key locations as you go,  then to return, you 
go back from point to point in the reverse

> order you made them.
>
> I believe there is an old legend about a hero 
searching out the beast in a maze, and did use 
bread crumbs to mark his way out again.

> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Pryor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>
>
> What is breadcrumb navigation.
> Jud
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 9 Jul 2017, at 19:02, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce

>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>
>> The app is called My Way Lite from the Swiss Federation of the blind.
>> It provides breadcrumb  navigation and directs the blind end user
>> through a path not a particular endpoint.  it is free.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>> On 7/9/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>> I really like Near-by Explorer, but I donâ€™t think it would be all that
>>> helpful in traversing a specific route which isnâ€™t based on named roads
>>> (that is, I donâ€™t think it can record 
â€œroutesâ€ ).  Just like Blind Square, it
>>> could only record the end of the route and 
aim you at it.  Either of these

>>> could also allow you to record way points along your route, but you would
>>> have to remember to switch to the correct  next waypoint each time you
>>> arrived at one.  I believe Near-by Explorer is better at getting you to a
>>> point in that it allows you to use your 
phone as a â€œpointerâ€ , and it will
>>> indicate to you when you have the end of 
your phone pointed directly at the

>>> desired point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think Seeing Eye can record a route of waypoints  however.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hth,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

>>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To help her out she and her husband are moving to a new complex and are
>>> hoping to create a POI at the mailbox then 
set a gps app to plan a route to

>>> that poi.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> From: Richard Turner 
>>>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 1:38 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Blind Square is not strictly speaking a GPS 
app. It does not do turn-by-turn

>>> directions.
>>>
>>> But, once you find the point of interest 
you want, Blind Square can launch

>>> Google maps, Apple Maps, or several paid GPS apps.
>>>
>>> If all you want is the turn-by-turn directions, Google Maps does a fine
>>> job.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, so here is a question, I know with google maps you can get
>>> directions say from your place to a store 
or something like that.  Can you
>>> do the same with a GPS app like 
blindsquare? Say can you get directions from

>>> my house to a point of interest? Is there a GPS app that can do something
>>> like that?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any tips you can give.
>>>
>>> Lelia
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iOS 11: Document Scanner in the Notes app

2017-07-10 Thread Chris Smart

Apparently, according to an article on CNET, the Notes app in iOS 11 
now includes a document scanner.  I have no idea if this includes any 
OCR features, or if it just snaps a picture, but it will also 
apparently let you save the scan as a PDF, and share it with people. 
might be useful.






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Re: Anyone help with an app recomendation?

2017-07-07 Thread Chris Smart


you can ask Siri to set a timer...

At 11:19 AM 7/7/2017, you wrote:

Hi all.
I'm looking for a countdown timer... one with hours, minutes, 
seconds until an event. I found an app called countdown... but when 
I double tap on the buttons they are not activated. Help?

Thanks.
Jen


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Re: iOS 11 Beta: Can't Reinstall Hooke Audio app

2017-07-06 Thread Chris Smart

Thanks for this. Unfortunately, I don't have a 
second device. I know I know, silly of me to go 
putting iOS 11 Beta on my one and only device. 
Living dangerously I guess. (grin)


Neat we can get around this problem though.

At 02:08 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote:

Hey Chris,

Yes the download button is not visible to VO 
users at this point. If you have another iOS 
device handy, here is the work around I have found so far.


You will need to turn on automatic app downloads 
in the iTunes and app store section of settings, 
on both devices. Goto the spare/other device, 
not your main device. Download it on this device 
and it will start to download it to your primary 
device. I have had the issue sense developer 
beta 1. The option is to connect the device to a 
computer and use our good olâ€™ friend iTunes to reinstall it.


I hope this helps,

Ed Worrell
Co-Founder/CEO
OverHere Consulting LLP
â€œBringing Technology into Sightâ€ 
<mailto:e...@overhereconsulting.net>e...@overhereconsulting.net

www.overhereconsulting.net

On Jul 5, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Chris Smart 
<<mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:


Problem: The Hooke Audio app wasn't recording 
past a few minutes, ever since I installed the 
iOS 11 public beta. Yes, I know this sort of instability is to be expected.


Anyway, I deleted the app outright, including 
its data, from inside Settings > General > iPhone Storage.


Now that an update to the app has appeared 
today, I would like to reinstall it. I can't 
"get" it. I can search for and find the app in 
the App Store, but there is nothing to tap on to download the app again.


Anybody else noticed this, where a deleted app can't be redownloaded?

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Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

2017-07-06 Thread Chris Smart


ah there it is. ignore what I said please. (grin)

At 12:49 PM 7/6/2017, you wrote:
In settings, go to your Apple ID where it says your name. It is the 
top one. Now go down to iTunes and App Store. Then double tap on 
Apple ID. Now double tap on view Apple ID. After you do this, you 
may have to enter your password. Subscriptions should be in that screen.


Jenn

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I forgot how to unsubscribe things like Apple Music. I used to know 
how but I had to reset my password Thanks for help.

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Re: Turning Off Subscriptions

2017-07-06 Thread Chris Smart


through iTunes I believe.

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iOS 11 Beta: Can't Reinstall Hooke Audio app

2017-07-05 Thread Chris Smart

Problem: The Hooke Audio app wasn't recording past a few minutes, 
ever since I installed the iOS 11 public beta. Yes, I know this sort 
of instability is to be expected.


Anyway, I deleted the app outright, including its data, from inside 
Settings > General > iPhone Storage.


Now that an update to the app has appeared today, I would like to 
reinstall it. I can't "get" it. I can search for and find the app in 
the App Store, but there is nothing to tap on to download the app again.


Anybody else noticed this, where a deleted app can't be redownloaded?

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Re: Question: Deleting Apps in iOS 11

2017-07-03 Thread Chris Smart


thanks for this.

At 04:33 PM 7/3/2017, you wrote:

This is a public beta... there is nothing proprietary about it...

You can delete an app by going to settings, 
General, Storage, and locating the app you want 
to remove. double-tapping on it will present you 
with some options. Delete is one of those options.


Thanks.

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:31 PM christopher 
hallsworth <<mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
Hi, if in doubt, don't discuss anything that is 
not public i.e. anything Apple hasn't published 
across their websites or did not discuss in the 
WWDC 2017 keynote. Just my Â£0.02 worth.
> On 3 Jul 2017, at 20:30, Chris Smart 
<<mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca>csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

>
>
>> Anyone know how to delete an app in iOS 11 public beta?
> Double tap and hold, followed by double tap, no longer seems to work.
>
> Generally, is iOS 11 discussion allowed here?
>
> If so, another thing I've noticed is eratic 
reading in the Weather app. I no longer hear an 
hour by hour breakdown as I swipe right.

>
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Question: Deleting Apps in iOS 11

2017-07-03 Thread Chris Smart




Anyone know how to delete an app in iOS 11 public beta?

Double tap and hold, followed by double tap, no longer seems to work.

Generally, is iOS 11 discussion allowed here?

If so, another thing I've noticed is eratic reading in the Weather 
app. I no longer hear an hour by hour breakdown as I swipe right.


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RE: iPod and Evernote

2016-01-07 Thread Chris Smart


At 12:44 PM 1/7/2016, you wrote:
Have you tried plugging in a headset to see if there is speech with 
the headset? It may simply be an issue of the volume dropping to 0.


oo good suggestion! I've had that happen once or twice here.


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Re: iPod and Evernote

2016-01-07 Thread Chris Smart

Very strange. Be sure to let us know the cause 
when you find out, as I haven't heard of this happening before.


At 12:37 PM 1/7/2016, you wrote:
I just reopened my iPad this morning after my 
significant other got it talking again 
yesterday, and the speech is already not 
working.. and the triple home button clicking does absolutely nothing.â€‹


I begin to think that taking it to the Apple 
store might be my on ly solution.Â  What a crock.


Kit Moss

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 12:00 AM, hannah 
<tiggerfa...@icloud.com> wrote:

HI paul have you got the tripple click home set for voice over .

When mine turns off i tripple click home three 
times and voice over comes back on .


But it doesn't seem to turn off in my case when using it .

However it does when it's in the case and the screen is locked

It's quite silly though as when i got the i pad 
it never did it but since months down the line 
it's started to do it so i'm wundering if i 
should take it to apple to be replaced .


On 06/01/2016 23:11, Paul Roberts wrote:
I have had a similar think happen on my Iphone 
5S and am somewhat baffled as to howÂ  it's hapendn.


In both instances when it's happened, i've had 
to get a sighted person to unlock my phone, 
enter my passcode and then go to 
settings,general, accesibility and then turn 
voiceover on, as it's been turned off, even though I hadn't turned it off.


The last time this happend to me, I was 
scrolling through some texts when voiceover 
stopped talking and then I couldn't hear the 
clicking noisesdÂ  , it was just completely dead 
but was stil working as someone was abel to unlock it for me.


So, I too would apreciate any suggestions on this please.

Paul.

From: 
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Moss

Sent: 06 January 2016 22:27
To: VIPhone
Subject: iPod and Evernote

I have two basic problems with my iPad.

One is that the Voice output keeps getting 
turned off and other than going in to the 
Zettings to turn it back on, which I can't see 
well enough to do, there is nothing I can do.Â  Advice?


Also I added Evernote.Â  When I open it on my 
iPad all I get is a figure of a man and some 
statement about how usefulÂ  Evernotis is and 
two or three dots below it.. and no way to open 
Evernote up to use it.Â  Advvice on that?


If there are any fans of GLBTQ historical 
fiction out there, write to me at christopherhmoss at gmail dot com.


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Re: iPod and Evernote

2016-01-07 Thread Chris Smart

Hannah, headphone and speaker volumes are 
separate. One may have been turned down inadvertantly.

At 01:26 PM 1/7/2016, you wrote:
hi no i haven't tried this but however when mine 
turns voice over off it's self for some unknown 
reason i tripple click home as i have that said 
and voice over comes back so what is this to do with the volume?


I'm puzzled .

On 07/01/2016 17:44, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Have you tried plugging in a headset to see if 
there is speech with the headset? It may simply 
be an issue of the volume dropping to 0.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Moss

Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPod and Evernote



I just reopened my iPad this morning after my 
significant other got it talking again 
yesterday, and the speech is already not 
working.. and the triple home button clicking does absolutely nothing.â€‹




I begin to think that taking it to the Apple 
store might be my on ly solution.  What a crock.




Kit Moss



On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 12:00 AM, hannah 
 > wrote:


HI paul have you got the tripple click home set for voice over .

When mine turns off i tripple click home three 
times and voice over comes back on .


But it doesn't seem to turn off in my case when using it .

However it does when it's in the case and the screen is locked

It's quite silly though as when i got the i pad 
it never did it but since months down the line 
it's started to do it so i'm wundering if i 
should take it to apple to be replaced .


On 06/01/2016 23:11, Paul Roberts wrote:

I have had a similar think happen on my Iphone 
5S and am somewhat baffled as to how  it's hapendn.


In both instances when it's happened, i've had 
to get a sighted person to unlock my phone, 
enter my passcode and then go to 
settings,general, accesibility and then turn 
voiceover on, as it's been turned off, even though I hadn't turned it off.


The last time this happend to me, I was 
scrolling through some texts when voiceover 
stopped talking and then I couldn't hear the 
clicking noisesd  , it was just completely dead 
but was stil working as someone was abel to unlock it for me.


So, I too would apreciate any suggestions on this please.

Paul.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Christopher Moss

Sent: 06 January 2016 22:27
To: VIPhone
Subject: iPod and Evernote

I have two basic problems with my iPad.

One is that the Voice output keeps getting 
turned off and other than going in to the 
Zettings to turn it back on, which I can't see 
well enough to do, there is nothing I can do.  Advice?


Also I added Evernote.  When I open it on my 
iPad all I get is a figure of a man and some 
statement about how useful  Evernotis is and 
two or three dots below it.. and no way to open 
Evernote up to use it.  Advvice on that?


If there are any fans of GLBTQ historical 
fiction out there, write to me at christopherhmoss at gmail dot com.


Kit Moss



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Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.

2016-01-06 Thread Chris Smart

Yes. I mean, how much does it cost to attend a 
game? Probably close to what it costs to hear 
every game of the season, wherever you want to listen.


At 05:39 PM 1/6/2016, you wrote:

Hi,

Iâ€™m sure the NFL is working on the problem. 
They update their app constantly, almost to 
constantly haha, but itâ€™s a simple issue that needs resolving.
Is it annoying? Yes. Will they fix it before 
wildcard weekend starts? Most likely. Be 
patient, and try not to get in a twist, 
especially about the price, when that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
For those that may have missed it, they changed 
the way audio needs to be played. Once you tap 
on a feed, thereâ€™s a play button that shows 
up, but unfortunately doesnâ€™t show up with VoiceOver, not even visually.

Give them time, and theyâ€™ll fix it.

On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Andy Baracco 
<w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:


Well, at least for this season, the 49ers were 
not worth $100. Perhaps that is why the NFL 
didnâ€™t block some of their streams.


Andy

From: Alan Paganelli
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.
I have no problem with the 49ers!  But I 
understand your frustration.  I figure for a 
hundred bucks we should get better service.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jan 5, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Andy Baracco 
<w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:



Imagine what it is like for me, being a 49ers fan.

Andy

From: Alan Paganelli
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 8:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.
I forgot about that game last night.  My son 
in law is a Packers fan so I tease him every 
chance I get like when the Bears win which 
didn't happen very much in 2015.  Hopefully 
the 2016 season will be better.  Oh great! now 
I'm sounding like the Chicago Cubs.  Wait til next year! LOL!



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:59 PM, SoonerAnnie 
<sooneran...@att.net> wrote:


Ditto!!! I wonder what happened all of a 
sudden when I couldn't get any games 
yesterday! Fortunately, I was able to listen 
to the Eagles' last game via their app, and 
was also able to get the Rams on the Pro 
Football app, but really wanted to listen to 
the national broadcast of Vikings-Packers 
game last night. Fortunately, we were able to 
get it on a local radio station, but 
hopefully they can fix this mess before the playoffs begin! Ugh!


Ann


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Alan Paganelli 
<alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote:


I am grateful for your post.  I wanted to 
listen to my team's final game of the season 
and could not get anything in the games tab 
to play the audio of any game.  Now the play 
offs will be starting and I'm afraid they 
won't get it either.  For a hundred bucks, I 
damn well expect to listen to my games and 
not have to sit here wondering WTF is going on.



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jan 3, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Kevin Minor 
<kmino...@outlook.com> wrote:



Hi again.

Iâ€™ve tried all I can think of, and I 
canâ€™t get the audio feeds in the Game Day 
Audio part of the NFL Mobile app to 
work.  I finally tried uninstalling and 
reinstalling the app, and it didnâ€™t 
work.  I then thought that maybe the site 
was having issues with their audio feeds, 
so I went to it on my PC, and I was able to 
stream a feed.  I then decided to contact 
nfl.com and ask about 
their mobile app, but I canâ€™t fill out the form.


I have two basic questions.  First, is the 
app working for others?  Second, if so, how 
can I contact nfl.com to resolve my issue?


Thankfully the games I wanted to hear are 
on local radio, but Iâ€™d prefer to hear them on the app.


Thanks for any info.

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Re: What's.can I do with my wifi, with Verizon

2016-01-06 Thread Chris Smart

well, you could buy some Skype credit and phone 
people using that over your WiFi. You can still 
Facetime or iMessage or Facebook or email or ... you get the idea.



At 07:23 PM 1/6/2016, you wrote:

Cello everyone,


I have an IPhone 4S, on the Verizon network. This is the pre-paid service.

Well this will end tonight, and I will not have service for a while.

I will have the wifi still will have the wifi where I live.

So my question is, what can I do using my wifi, and my Â 4s

Any help with this, will be appreciated. By the 
way, you can not make calls on the wifi 
connection. Verizon does not allow this.


Thank you. Any help would be much appreciated.

Terri

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Re: iPod and Evernote

2016-01-06 Thread Chris Smart

If the iPad has a home button like the iPhones 
do, what happens if you just press that three 
times? Or, hold it and ask Siri to turn VoiceOver on?


At 05:27 PM 1/6/2016, you wrote:

I have two basic problems with my iPad.

One is that the Voice output keeps getting 
turned off and other than going in to the 
Zettings to turn it back on, which I can't see 
well enough to do, there is nothing I can do.Â  Advice?


Also I added Evernote.Â  When I open it on my 
iPad all I get is a figure of a man and some 
statement about how useful Â Evernotis is and 
two or three dots below it.. and no way to open 
Evernote up to use it.Â  Advvice on that?


If there are any fans of GLBTQ historical 
fiction out there, write to me at christopherhmoss at gmail dot com.


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Re: Fopydo Book Reading Aid?

2016-01-04 Thread Chris Smart


Terry, it's made by Fopydo. Did you check their Website?
http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid

Look for a level 3 heading saying "Deployment and Operation Instructions".

At 03:54 AM 1/4/2016, you wrote:
OK I didn't see instructions listed in the 
emails on this group page can you send them to 
me as being on a very confused about setting 
this up it would help OK thank you very much


My thoughts for today

> On Jan 3, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello Chris,
>
> It sounds as though you have it right. The 
foam pads stop the pages from turning by 
themselves. Donâ€™t squeeze them too tightly 
against the top and bottom of the book and you 
should be able to turn the page while KNFB 
Reader is speaking the double page you just scanned.

>
> I put the instructions into French for my 
list members and one person has already 
successfully set up her stand. My instructions 
are much more concise than those on the website 
which I found a bit confusing too.

>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 22:32, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I was able to read the included 
instruction sheet with KNFB Reader. Now, to try a book.

>>
>> I have a larger paperback here. I've opened 
it to a page in the middle, and have it turned 
90 degrees. so one page is towards the front of the

>>
>> With the foam pads on left and right, I have 
one page closer to me and one further away, 
with the spine in the middle. The spine extends 
from one foam pad to the other. Is that right? 
So essentially, I'll be scanning two page faces with each camera picture?

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>> Chris
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Hi Sieghard. You're right. I should have looked a little further and 
decided not to post that. Eva, please disregard. Others have posted 
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Re: Cancelling an order from amazon.ca

2016-01-04 Thread Chris Smart


https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=10194281

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8=200342120

At 11:06 AM 1/4/2016, you wrote:

Hi listers,

   I hope everybody is doing well.  I made an 
order through amazon.ca of a bluetooth keyboard 
and two games for my nephew.  All three items 
should have cost me 155 Canadian dollars.  I 
don't know what happened, but they sent me a 
confirmation e-mail message of a total of 249 
Canadian dollars.  I went to cancel the order 
right away.  It said that I could not cancel 
because the order has already been shipped.  I 
was asked to contact the seller.  To my 
knowledge, amazon.ca is the seller.  How do I 
contact them?  I don't want to pay this huge amount of money.

Thanks for any help



God bless
Eva
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Subject: [Bulk] Re: Fopydo Book Reading Aid?


You can find the text instructions and the video here:
http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid


HTH,
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On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:54 AM, terrie arnold <terrieiph...@gmail.com> wrote:

OK I didn't see instructions listed in the 
emails on this group page can you send them to 
me as being on a very confused about setting 
this up it would help OK thank you very much


My thoughts for today


On Jan 3, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Chris,

It sounds as though you have it right. The 
foam pads stop the pages from turning by 
themselves. Donâ€™t squeeze them too tightly 
against the top and bottom of the book and you 
should be able to turn the page while KNFB 
Reader is speaking the double page you just scanned.


I put the instructions into French for my list 
members and one person has already 
successfully set up her stand. My instructions 
are much more concise than those on the 
website which I found a bit confusing too.


Cheers,

Anne



On 3 Jan 2016, at 22:32, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

OK, I was able to read the included 
instruction sheet with KNFB Reader. Now, to try a book.


I have a larger paperback here. I've opened 
it to a page in the middle, and have it 
turned 90 degrees. so one page is towards the front of the


With the foam pads on left and right, I have 
one page closer to me and one further away, 
with the spine in the middle. The spine 
extends from one foam pad to the other. Is 
that right? So essentially, I'll be scanning 
two page faces with each camera picture?


Chris


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RE: Fopydo Book Reading Aid?

2016-01-03 Thread Chris Smart



whoops, missed a word somewhere. with foam pads on left and right, I 
have the book opened and lying flat, one page closer to me and one 
further towards the vertical back of the stand. The spine extends 
left to right, from one foam pad to another.





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RE: Fopydo Book Reading Aid?

2016-01-03 Thread Chris Smart

OK, I was able to read the included instruction sheet with KNFB 
Reader. Now, to try a book.


I have a larger paperback here. I've opened it to a page in the 
middle, and have it turned 90 degrees. so one page is towards the front of the


With the foam pads on left and right, I have one page closer to me 
and one further away, with the spine in the middle. The spine extends 
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Re: Fopydo Book Reading Aid?

2016-01-03 Thread Chris Smart

Hi Anne.

That's great! Ok I think I have this sorted out.

Thanks for the help guys.

At 04:43 PM 1/3/2016, you wrote:

Hello Chris,

It sounds as though you have it right. The foam 
pads stop the pages from turning by themselves. 
Donâ€™t squeeze them too tightly against the top 
and bottom of the book and you should be able to 
turn the page while KNFB Reader is speaking the double page you just scanned.

I put the instructions into French for my list 
members and one person has already successfully 
set up her stand. My instructions are much more 
concise than those on the website which I found a bit confusing too.

Cheers,

Anne

> On 3 Jan 2016, at 22:32, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
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> OK, I was able to read the included 
instruction sheet with KNFB Reader. Now, to try a book.

>
> I have a larger paperback here. I've opened 
it to a page in the middle, and have it turned 
90 degrees. so one page is towards the front of the

>
> With the foam pads on left and right, I have 
one page closer to me and one further away, 
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So essentially, I'll be scanning two page faces with each camera picture?

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RE: Fopydo Book Reading Aid?

2016-01-03 Thread Chris Smart


Hi Richard.
Thanks for getting back to me so fast.
I'll reply in line below.
At 03:27 PM 1/3/2016, you wrote:

Before we take this off list, I suspect others may have issues too.


I think that is likely. I am usually pretty good with angles and 
other such things, but the instructions on the Fopydo site just 
aren't doing it for me. Perhaps if I had already owned the stand and 
was just adding the book reading attachment to it, I would have 
understood immediately.



It sounds like you separated the stand from the reading aid.


Oh wait, ok I've pulled the base and the stand apart. I see that 
strip of adhesive.
I've located that interior folding section and inserted the tab into 
the slot.


Update: I sent someone a link to that video where tom is 
demonstrating, and they corrected what I was doing wrong!  I had the 
two metal legs facing exactly opposite to where they should be, so 
the stand was jutting way out to the side of the base, and the tape 
was definitely not on the top of the stand.  It is now though, now 
that I have the metal legs oriented correctly.


I'm pretty sure I could not have figured this out reading the written 
instructions alone.  Perhaps we should attempt a rewrite of them, to 
send to people who buy the stand and book reading aid? Or are the 
instructions clear enough to other folks?


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Re: Fopydo Book Reading Aid?

2016-01-03 Thread Chris Smart


Hi Christina.
The video does not show it being assembled, but 
it does show it being used, with a phone sitting 
on top and an open book on the base. If your 
husband tries following the written instructions, 
but glancing at how the finished assembly should 
look in the video, he should be ok.

The video is on the fopydo website, but it's also on youtube at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBx41Vo6cdE

Boy, I had to get out the expensive headphones to 
hear what he's actually saying!


Chris

At 09:08 PM 1/3/2016, you wrote:
Do you have the link to the video. I have the 
stand and book holder but Iâ€™ve not attempted 
to put it together. I want my husband to watch 
it and put it together for me. :)


Christina
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Chris,
> Unlike you, I got a horrible grade in 
geometry, so I was not surprised that I botched 
the whole put together deal. My husband watch 
the video and had no problems. Before watching 
the video, he was also confused. He is a real 
video kind of guy, not a print instructions kind of guy.

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>> On Jan 3, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richard.
>> Thanks for getting back to me so fast.
>> I'll reply in line below.
>> At 03:27 PM 1/3/2016, you wrote:
>>> Before we take this off list, I suspect others may have issues too.
>>
>> I think that is likely. I am usually pretty 
good with angles and other such things, but the 
instructions on the Fopydo site just aren't 
doing it for me. Perhaps if I had already owned 
the stand and was just adding the book reading 
attachment to it, I would have understood immediately.

>>
>>> It sounds like you separated the stand from the reading aid.
>>
>> Oh wait, ok I've pulled the base and the 
stand apart. I see that strip of adhesive.
>> I've located that interior folding section 
and inserted the tab into the slot.

>>
>> Update: I sent someone a link to that video 
where tom is demonstrating, and they corrected 
what I was doing wrong!  I had the two metal 
legs facing exactly opposite to where they 
should be, so the stand was jutting way out to 
the side of the base, and the tape was 
definitely not on the top of the stand.  It is 
now though, now that I have the metal legs oriented correctly.

>>
>> I'm pretty sure I could not have figured 
this out reading the written instructions 
alone.  Perhaps we should attempt a rewrite of 
them, to send to people who buy the stand and 
book reading aid? Or are the instructions clear enough to other folks?

>>
>> Chris
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2016-01-03 Thread Chris Smart


Hi folks.

Did anybody else go for the Fopydo Bookreading aid during the crowd 
funding campaign?


I received mine, but must be missing something really simple in the 
assembly instructions. I can't figure out where my phone goes.
Rather than clutter the list with back and forth posts, can I talk to 
someone who has this thing off-list? I'd like to describe how I have 
this thing assembled and situated, and hopefully figure out what part 
is confusing me.


Currently, I have the foam pads extended out to the sides and rotated 
so the foam is facing the stand.  The surface between the foam pads 
is flat on my desk.  I assume what I want to scan goes between the foam pieces.


.  Two metal pieces are rotated so their ends contact the table, and 
they support a hinged piece of cardboard, currently slanted at about 
45 degrees. The metal pieces are in front of me. The cardboard hinge 
is at the rear..


Instructions on the Fopydo Website talk about a shelf for my phone to 
sit on, but all I find is a notched slot maybe four inches in length, 
and the end of my phone definitely doesn't fit in it.  That whole 
surface is on about a 45 degree angle, so my phone won't stay put if 
I try and rest it there either.


Signed, perplexed, even though I got a good mark in high school 
geometry class years ago. LOL


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RE: double tapping on the Iphone

2015-09-29 Thread Chris Smart



yes the Music app does not need to be running. I have this problem in
Downcast, as well as the Jazz.fm 91 app, which streams a jazz station
from Toronto.
At 08:47 PM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
The
music app was closed and out of my app switcher.
I keep nothing in my app switcher.
playing games or not playing games.
 


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger,
Keith G., M.D.
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Can you close the
music app while your playing the game?
 
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Hi,
 
Unfortunately, no. Sorry.
 


On Sep 28, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Jeremy Gilley

wrote:

 

Hi,

 

So, is there any way to remove the 2 finger double tap on the Iphone
that turns on and off the music?

I am playing a game, and unfortunately, even though I am using a
single finger, there are times where my music starts playing.

There are also 2 finger double taps in some games I play that gets
screwed up with the music app and it is driving me nuts.

Any help would be so very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

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Re: Creating Folders In iOS 9

2015-09-29 Thread Chris Smart



At 11:08 PM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
you keep sliding your finger left or right until VO says it is moving to
another page.
What do you do when
the aps aren't on the same page?
Thanks.
 


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From: Ioana Gandrabur


To:
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Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 8:31 PM

Subject: Re: Creating Folders In iOS 9



Hi,


When moving app a on to app b and you hear the info about this keep
slowly moving your finger around the area of that app and you will hear
the "creating folder" announcement. I agree it's a bit finiky
without good reason but works for me consistently. Have not tried yet
with the bt keyboard. 

Hth,


Ioana

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Hi Everyone,

I decided to reorganize some apps on my iPhone 6 today.  I began
by deleting some apps that I just don't ever use.  My intention was
to create some new folders for some apps that I don't use quite as often
as some others, but that I still wanted to keep.  I haven't done
this in quite a while, so I'm thinking the procedure may have changed,
but what I tried was:  double-tapping and holding on one app, and
then moving it on top of another app in order to create a new folder
which contained both apps.  It didn't seem to work.  I didn't
get any indication that a folder was created, and was provided with no
edit field in which to write a new folder name.  What might I be
doing wrong?  Any help with this would be most appreciated! 
Thanks so much in advance!

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Apple and Privacy

2015-09-29 Thread Chris Smart



Apple reveals just how seriously it takes your privacy  

http://buff.ly/1KO0VaC
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RE: Periscope

2015-09-28 Thread Chris Smart



check out

https://www.periscope.tv/
At 02:13 PM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
What is Periscope? 


Rose Combs
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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
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Hi Christina, I am still new to periscope but from what I have seen it is
very voice over friendly.  I have tried typing in the chat window
and I don't know if my chats are seen or not but as I say I am still
fairly n we to the app but it looks very accessible.  Hope that
helps.  And if you get any tips let us know please.  
Thanks Lelia 
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Subject: Re: Periscope
Okay, cool. Can you access the messages others type? Can you only get to
the video stream through the twitter link?
Thanks,
Christina
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Paul Hunt 
wrote:
> 
> Hello Christina. I'm totally blind and I'm watching a live broadcast
on Periscope right now. The key is to follow the person who is doing the
broadcast on twitter and also in periscope. Once you follow the person,
you get a tweet when the broadcast starts. Just open the app and you'll
find the broadcast.
> Paul
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Periscope
> 
> is all of the periscope app accessible? I honestly am not into those
sorts of things. I donâ€™t even have a Facebook account. I am mainly
needing it to watch some live webinars. Unfortunately, these live
webinars are only done on Periscope.
> 
> I know the app is free so, please do not reply with the app is free
so go try it. Iâ€™m asking because I do not want to waste a lot of time
trying to set up an account and taking the time to try to learn the app
only to discover hours later that some important aspects of periscope and
the app are not accessible. Obviously, I will not be able to see the
video feed but I will be able to hear it and I will probably need to be
able to access the feedback from other Periscopers.
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Re: Possible iOS 9 and Bluetooth Keyboard Fix

2015-09-28 Thread Chris Smart



All credit goes to Colin McDonald. He thought to try that.
At 01:37 PM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
That worked! I had screen
curtain on, and when I turned it off, I can type now. Thanks
Chris.
Jenn
Jenn and Kumi
On Sep 28, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Chris Smart
<csma...@cogeco.ca>
wrote:
Hi folks.
For those of you who are having trouble typing in edit fields with your
external keyboards, try this.
Go into an edit field and turn Screen Curtain off. I believe VO+SHIFT+S
will do this.
I almost always have screen curtain on here, and never thought to try
disabling it. When I turn screen curtain off, I can type just fine! Turn
it back on, and I can't type at all again.
Jonathan, you wern't having this problem. By any chance, do you ever turn
screen curtain on?
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Possible iOS 9 and Bluetooth Keyboard Fix

2015-09-28 Thread Chris Smart



Hi folks.
For those of you who are having trouble typing in edit fields with your
external keyboards, try this.
Go into an edit field and turn Screen Curtain off. I believe VO+SHIFT+S
will do this.
I almost always have screen curtain on here, and never thought to try
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it back on, and I can't type at all again.
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Re: double tapping on the Iphone

2015-09-28 Thread Chris Smart



Jeremy, please report this to Apple.
At 07:10 PM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
Hi,
 
So, is there any way to remove the 2 finger double tap on the Iphone that
turns on and off the music?
I am playing a game, and unfortunately, even though I am using a single
finger, there are times where my music starts playing.
There are also 2 finger double taps in some games I play that gets
screwed up with the music app and it is driving me nuts.
Any help would be so very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Length of Videos

2015-09-28 Thread Chris Smart



well, how large is your 6 Plus? Find out what bit rate you will be
recording at and do the math to work out how fast the remaining space on
your phone will fill up.
At 11:36 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote:
Good Morning,
 
I need to produce a video and would like to know how long the iphone 6
Plus video will run.  
 
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

2015-09-25 Thread Chris Smart

I've submitted reports to the beta program, both under Bluetooth, and
under Accessibility. Hopefully that will get someone's
attention.
At 12:53 PM 9/25/2015, you wrote:
I don't use a bluetooth
keyboard, so I can't test it. I posted these hints in hopes they might
help someone who is experiencing the bug, who could then tell us. They
seem very, very odd things to help a keyboard bug, but that doesn't mean
they aren't worth a shot. Besides, they come from Apple, who must at
least have an idea about what's going on. I wish I could provide more
direct information.
On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:15,
'
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
<viphone@googlegroups.com
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Alex, did this work?

Carol P

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To: 'Eleanor Roberts'
via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one
like about the new update to ios901?)
What Apple Accessibility told me was to toggle the screen curtain, as odd
a suggestion at it sounds. If that doesn't help, lock then unlock the
phone.
On Sep 24, 2015, at 14:09,
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Be sure to send that comment to Accessability because it's
obviously quite a messy loop where things can and do go wrong.

Carol P

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Cc:
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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like
about the new update to ios901?)
hmm not here it isn't.
I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the
problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke
again.
Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard
again.
But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.
I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then
fix this issue.
Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks
it. Reboot phone to fix.
But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused
things to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my
keyboard again, not re-pairing, not rebooting.

At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:
what does every one like about
the new update.I think the blue tooth key board ishue is fixed.
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Writing About Apple Products Properly

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



Do you want to write about Apple products with more clarity and
consistancy? Grab a copy of the Apple Style Guide:

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Re: Home Button For Turning Voice Over On?

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



yes ... i'm tnot sure why that would change.
At 09:00 PM 9/22/2015, you wrote:
Hi, list.
Does triple tap on Home-Button still turn VO on/off in IOS9?
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iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
 Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior
where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
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Bluetooth Keyboard Problem (was: what does every one like about the new update to ios901?)

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



hmm not here it isn't.
I thought forgetting then re-pairing with my external keyboard fixed the
problem. Then, I toggled Voiceover off and back on, and things broke
again.
Rebooting my phone fixed the probem allowing me to use the keyboard
again.
But here's where it gets strange and quite frustrating.
I thought at this point I had come up with repeatable steps to break then
fix this issue.
Forget/re-pair with device fixes, and turning VO off and back on breaks
it. Reboot phone to fix.
But, running through that procedure to check its repeatability caused
things to break again. Nothing I do is restoring functionality with my
keyboard again, not re-pairing, not rebooting.


At 03:51 PM 9/23/2015, you wrote:
what does every one like about
the new update.I think the blue tooth key board ishue is fixed.
```Sent from my iPad
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Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



Cloud storage is a generic term so yes, Dropbox, Google Drive, iCloud and
many other products are cloud storage.
At 11:36 AM 9/23/2015, you wrote:
Good morning, does cloud storage
include dropbox?  I use dropbox to
import  files to Voice Dream Reader and it works
flawlessly.
Have a good one:
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Re: iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



Hi.
I've been forwarding/reporting everything to that address as
well.
At 01:44 PM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Hi Chris 
Please report any problems like this with your bluetooth keyboard to
accessibil...@apple.com.
It's really important that as many people report it as possible in the
hope that Apple might actually listen to us, take the problems seriously,
and actually do something about fixing it. 
Eleanor 
Sent from my iPad
On 24 Sep 2015, at 18:34, Chris Smart
<csma...@cogeco.ca>
wrote:
Shoot. Forget that. It's not
fixed, although I was able to use my keyboard for a short while.

At 11:30 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
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where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
Chris
 
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Re: iOS 9.01 and External Bluetooth Keyboards

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



Shoot. Forget that. It's not fixed, although I was able to use my
keyboard for a short while.

At 11:30 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
Update:
It appears that, at least on my particular iPhone 6+, I can now use my
Logitech Keys-to-Go Bluetooth keyboard again, after updating to iOS
9.01.
Initially, after installing the update, I tried typing in a search field,
and experienced the double characters problem. That was not happening
with iOS 9.0. This was promising.
 Turning Voiceover off and back on brought back the iOS 9.0 behavior
where I couldn't type in edit fields at all.
However, then going into Settings > Bluetooth  and "More
Info" for my keyboard, telling the iPhone to forget the device, then
re-pairing with it, I can now type just fine!
So, once you forget then re-pair wiht your keyboard, you should at least
be able to type as before.
It remains to be seen if the doubled characters bug still exists. I
haven't encountered it yet.
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Re: Cooking with terabytes

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



hahahahahahahhaa. sorry but that's pretty funny!
At 02:52 PM 9/21/2015, you wrote:
I think one of the old bloopers
goes back to DOS and early Dolphin screen reader, used a lot by
physiotherapists.
Which got pronounced physio-the-rapist.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Mosen" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Cooking with terabytes

Indeed, my wife was reading a book the other day, in which one of the
characters ended up dying of terabytes.
To follow all the political excitement in Australia last week, I was
listening to a station in Sydney called 2 G B, which default 
Daniel, my voice of choice, called 2 Gigabytes.
I also find Alex spells out a lot of things, such as email addresses and
Twitter IDs. It also seems to mispronounce more than most 
voices, so I give Alex a miss.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
> On 22/09/2015, at 3:49 AM, Mary Otten 
wrote:
>
> Good old Alex has discovered a new cooking term. Did you know that
when you're making short ribs in the slow cooker, you need to 
> add one and a half terabytes of balsamic vinegar? When, when, will
the folks who make the speech synthesizers stop trying to guess 
> what abbreviations mean and leave it up to us, the human readers
with the smarts, to figure it out for ourselves?
> Mary
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RE: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Smart



not to mention, Canadians can join Bookshare too.
Then there's iBooks, Kindle, Voice Dream Reader, etc. We've never had
access to so many books!
At 05:30 PM 9/20/2015, you wrote:
As a Canadian I usually donâ€™t
read threads about BARD, but while the CNIB library may not have all the
newest books, they nonetheless do have a lot of good reads or listens and
the Direct to Player app actually works pretty good. You log in to the
CNIB Digital Library, find a boolk you want to listen to (you can do this
on a computer or with Safari on the iPhone) and then tell it to use
Direct to Player instead of downloading it, then you open the Direct to
Player iOS app and you can stream or download the book.
 
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Justice
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple
 
Ummm... Apples and Oranges.  BARD was created by the U.S. government
for U.S. citizens.  If those in Canada what something similar, they
should talk to CNIB or other Canadian government agencies.  
 
Now back to talking about Apple and its products (Smile). 
 
 
  David Justice :) 
 
On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:27 AM, Kerri G
 wrote:


Also, itâ€™  not just apple, we Canadians *always get things
last, have yo forgotten we do not have BARD? oh well, Iâ€™m staying with
apple et al until something comes along where Canadians can be on an
equal playing field.

 

It is better to have a heart without words than words without a
heart. ~Ghandi

 


On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk

wrote:

 

The way I see things, countries like Canada and even India are lower
on the totem pole compared to the US. We didn't have iTunes Radio until
Apple Music, we still don't have Apple Pay which is one of the reasons
why I'm not jumping for joy about the iPhone 6 series, and now we don't
get Apple News. I've kinda gotten used to us getting things last or not
getting them at all, and I guess that's kinda a pathetic way of looking
at things, but hey, that's Apple for you. But I'm not gonna go back to a
PC or switch to Android because of a little thing like that because
bottom line is Apple is the best in terms of accessibility. I would reach
out to Apple via social media about the unfair advantage but 1, Apple
doesn't have a Twitter account and 2, I doubt that if we complain to Tim
Cook about it through his Twitter feed that he'd listen to us.

 

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wrote:

 

Dear friends,

 

On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features
that was being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that
this app (which should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other
legal issues) is not available in India.  I was looking forward to
it.  I am sure India is also one of the markets that Apple is
viewing as its primary market and neither Apple maps nor apps like the
News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  Having said this,
it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing less than the
global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through
its website as well as social media.  

 

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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Smart



Try to be patient. It's not available in most countries yet. 
At 02:51 AM 9/19/2015, you wrote:
Dear friends,
 
On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that
was being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app
(which should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal
issues) is not available in India.  I was looking forward to
it.  I am sure India is also one of the markets that Apple is
viewing as its primary market and neither Apple maps nor apps like the
News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  Having said this,
it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing less than the
global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through
its website as well as social media.  
 
With best wishes,
 
Ketan
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Re: My husbands for S

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Smart



yep, same here. hunt for that button.
At 09:16 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
Hi,
I had to feel around the screen to find the install button -
flicking
didn't find it for me.
Cheers,
Ben.
On 9/19/15, leliastr...@gmail.com 
wrote:
> All, my husband has an iPhone for S, with the latest 8.4 update.
When he
> goes to update to I OS 9, it is already downloaded, but he cannot
install
> it, I wonder if anyone else has had this problem and what you did
about it.
> Thank you in advance so basically he is not able to update to I OS 9
because
> there is not an install button, it is already downloaded but there
is no
> install. Thank you
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: iCloud backup

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Smart



Follow-up question:
If one just backs up to the cloud regularly, not backing up using iTunes,
and needs to restore the phone at some future time, will they have to
manually download each app again from the App Store, then restore from
the last iCloud back up? Or, is iCloud smart enough to also get the App
store to redownload all apps?
Chris
 
At 06:00 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
It does not back up apps, it
will back up your data such as contacts. For a true backup use iTunes and
backup the phone that way. That will backup all your apps and data.
 
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Subject: iCloud backup
 
Hi,
Does the iCloud backup backup the entire phone including all of its apps
and data or does it just back up the OS and basic data like contacts…
tthe checked items in iCloud in settings?
Thx –Steve
 
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RE: Downcast Update

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Smart



Hi Mark.
I had thought the problem was partially resolved but nope, I'm still
seeing music start playing when I try starting and stopping playback in
Downcast. For the record, I do not have the music app open when this
occurs. I'll try opening it as well, as you suggest below, to see if that
changes the behavior.
For reporting this to Apple, is this something that affects everyone, or
just Voiceover users? i.e. is two-finger double tap just a Voiceover
gesture?
Chris
At 02:31 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
Hello Chris,
I just updated to the latest version of Downcast, released today, and
cannot reproduce the problem you describe.  That is to say, a
two-finger, double-tap, does, indeed, stop and start playback of the
current podcast episode, as it has always done.
As for the random incidence of music being played as the result of the
two-finger, double-tap gesture intended for a third-party app such as
Downcast or BARD Mobile, I suggest the following:
1.
Close the third-party app,
2.
Assuming that the native Music app is not running, launch it.
3.
Now launch the third-party app, such as Downcast.
4.
Start playback of a third-party media file such as a podcast episode
using the play-/pause button.  
5.
Now, stop and start playback using the two-finger, double-tap
gesture.  
Finally, As I have encountered the non-intentional music playback problem
from within several third-party apps I would argue that this problem is
one that exists at the OS level and is not app-specific.  I do not
remember encountering this problem in iOS 7 or earlier.
Mark
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Subject: Downcast Update
I noticed an update to Downcast this morning. It appears that although a
two-finger double tap no longer starts music playing or other odd
behavior, now it does nothing.  So, it's better, but I do hope this
gesture returns for starting and stopping playback.
Chris
 
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Re: Downcast Update

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Smart



Hi Brian and Mark.
Following Mark's instructions below seems to have fixed the problem.
Thanks!
Now, if we can get the BBC to add this to their World Service app.
(grin)
Chris
At 02:50 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
Hi Chris,
I too just updated to the version that came out today and the two finger
start and stop is working again. I tested it with the app opened on
screen, closed, and on the locked screen and the two finger tap to pause
and resume worked in all areas.
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu>
wrote:
> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
> I just updated to the latest version of Downcast, released today,
and cannot reproduce the problem you describe.  That is to say, a
two-finger, double-tap, does, indeed, stop and start playback of the
current podcast episode, as it has always done.
> 
> As for the random incidence of music being played as the result of
the two-finger, double-tap gesture intended for a third-party app such as
Downcast or BARD Mobile, I suggest the following:
> 
> 1.
> Close the third-party app,
> 
> 2.
> Assuming that the native Music app is not running, launch it.
> 
> 3.
> Now launch the third-party app, such as Downcast.
> 
> 4.
> Start playback of a third-party media file such as a podcast episode
using the play-/pause button.  
> 
> 5.
> Now, stop and start playback using the two-finger, double-tap
gesture.  
> 
> Finally, As I have encountered the non-intentional music playback
problem from within several third-party apps I would argue that this
problem is one that exists at the OS level and is not app-specific. 
I do not remember encountering this problem in iOS 7 or earlier.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 7:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Downcast Update
> 
> I noticed an update to Downcast this morning. It appears that
although a two-finger double tap no longer starts music playing or other
odd behavior, now it does nothing.  So, it's better, but I do hope
this gesture returns for starting and stopping playback.
> 
> Chris
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RE: ios 9 accessibility bugs (jonathan)

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Smart



Thanks for that reminder. (grin) I was being a wee bit sarcastic. I'll
try to dial that back a little.

At 01:08 PM 9/18/2015, you wrote:
Chris,
 
You asked whether groups like this one archive the messages. The answer s
Yes, here is what it says in the footer of every post:
 
The archives for this list can be searched at

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Regards,
Sieghard
 
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Subject: Re: ios 9 accessibility bugs (jonathan)
 
At 06:19 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:


Hello I would greatly appreciate it if you would send me that list
too thanks


it was posted here a day or two ago. 
Do Google Groups like this one archive posts, which are then searchable
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Re: The Instagram App.

2015-09-22 Thread Chris Smart



and it's almost all pictures.
At 04:22 PM 9/22/2015, you wrote:
I don't think that it is very
accessible. Most buttons are not labeled.
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> I am interesting in getting on instagram. I downloaded the Instagram
App,
> and it does not seem accessible with voiceover. I am wondering if
I
> downloaded the wrong thing because I am told that people post on
Instagram
> using voiceover.
>
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
>
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> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator
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Re: not having to enter a password to unlook your phone with IOS 9

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Smart



Have you looked in Settings > Touch ID and Pass Code?
At 06:01 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
Hi I installed IOS 9 yesterday
and now when I go to unlock my phone.
I have to enter a for digit pass word.
Can you change this in settings on your phone so you can just unlock your
phone with out having to enter
A for digit pass code to unlock the phone?
If so where do you go to change this and how to you change it and make it
last so you don't have to change it again?

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Re: ios 9 accessibility bugs (jonathan)

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Smart



At 06:19 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
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Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Smart



yep i can do that for short texts.
At 05:01 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
Suppose you could try leaving
Voice-Over off and type, then turn it on to read if you wish.
Let us know if that works.  It's not ideal, but some of us could
manage it OK if pushed ...
Carol P
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Subject: Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?

Hi Alex
I'm not going to say whether you should advise people to upgrade or not.
However, the bluetooth keyboard bug is quite significant to those it
happens to, as it just won't speak or let you type text when you're in
any sort of text edit field. It just freezes and VO stops talking. The
only way you can resolve it is to turn the bluetooth keyboard off and
make do with the on-screen keyboard. But obviously this is by no means
ideal when you're trying to write long documents or e-mails etc. I'm sure
others will have their opinions too.
Eleanor
Sent from my iPad
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Hi all,
I'm curious about iOS9's bug that prevents typing with bluetooth
keyboards for some users. I didn't see this in my own testing, though I
don't really use a bluetooth keyboard often. I didn't hear about anyone
else running into this one either, and I talked to several testers during
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Re: not having to enter a password to unlock your phone with IOS 9

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Smart



LOL he told you. Settings, then Touch ID and Passcode.
What's the very first setting you find there, under the heading "Use
Touch ID For"? Hint: it says "iPhone unlock"
At 06:12 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
Hi okay I go to settings and
then what do I look under once I am there?
I looked last night and didn't see anything on how to turn that off or
where.
Thanks for the help so far.

On 9/17/2015 5:05 PM, Jennie Facer wrote:
Hi,
Just go to settings, then to touch ID and passcode settings. Here is
where you change and turn your passcode off.
Jenn
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Hi I installed IOS 9 yesterday and now when I go to unlock my phone.
I have to enter a for digit pass word.
Can you change this in settings on your phone so you can just unlock your
phone with out having to enter A for digit pass code to unlock the
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If so where do you go to change this and how to you change it and make it
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Re: Invoking caps lock with IOS9 VoiceOver

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Smart



Thanks Shai. Sorry I should have read the other posts in this thread
first. Split double tap appears to do the trick here.
Chris
At 07:04 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
Hi Chris,
Yes it is; I misspoke. Using touch typing, I did try to triple tap
and
VoiceOver indicates that shift is selected; however, this only
capitalizes a single letter.
At the present time, the only means I have found to invoke the caps
lock is to find the shift and press it once then find actions on the
roter and flick up to capslock and double tap it. To toggle it off,
tap and let go of shift.

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> I thought it was always triple tap on Shift for turning caps lock
on?
>
> At 01:27 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am using an iPhone with IOS9. When I double tap the shift key
on the
>> touch screen to invoke all caps I am noticing that VoiceOver
will
>> state that the shift key is selected; however, the cap only
occurs for
>> one letter and not subsequent ones. Is this a bug in IOS9 or is
there
>> something that I am doing wrong? Double tapping the shift key
to
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Re: Dictating in Twitter how to hashtag

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Smart



i haven't tried this yet, but maybe say "number sign", since
that's what the punctuation is called.
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I guess I really never have
dictated in Twitter earlier tonight I tried dictating but said hashtag
and it spelled out hashtag so how do you dictate a hashtag and the at
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Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Smart



Nope. I've tried those two things, rebooting my phone, etc. no
luck.
At 04:19 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
One person on Twitter suggested
that re-pairing the keyboard, or turning it off and back on a few times,
fixed the problem. Have either of you found that to be the case?
On Sep 17, 2015, at 16:10, Chris
Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca>
wrote:
well, in Mail, Messages, FB Messenger, etc. I simply cannot type into
edit fields with my Logitech Keys-to-Go bluetooth keyboard.  I'm not
sure what else I can add other than this particular bug affects me. I'm
using a 6+ purchased in December.
At 03:50 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
Hi all,
I'm curious about iOS9's bug that prevents typing with bluetooth
keyboards for some users. I didn't see this in my own testing, though I
don't really use a bluetooth keyboard often. I didn't hear about anyone
else running into this one either, and I talked to several testers during
the beta cycle. I'm not doubting it happens, I just want to try to figure
out why it happens. I'm going to be asked by some TVIs and other people
whether they should upgrade the devices of their students and clients,
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Downcast Update

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Smart



I noticed an update to Downcast this morning. It appears that although a
two-finger double tap no longer starts music playing or other odd
behavior, now it does nothing.  So, it's better, but I do hope this
gesture returns for starting and stopping playback.
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RE: Submitting App Crash Reports

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



Hi.
I tried adding Edit to the roter, doing a pinch gesture, etc. but no
luck. When viewing a crash report I was not seeing Edit in the roter
there.
However, thanks to the new Text Selection feature in iOS 9, I had no
trouble selecting all, copying, pasting into an email. So, I advise folks
to go to Voiceover Settings > Roter and add text selection. It's very
handy!
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Re: To All iTunes 11 Devotees

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



Have recent contacts on the App Switcher screen gone away, or do I just
need to reenable that setting after the update?
Chris
At 04:45 AM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
They do need to fix the app
section and put it like it use to be.
On 9/16/2015 8:46 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello All,
Just a quick note to those of you who are still using iTunes 11.
The time has come to say goodbye.  That is to say, if you update
your phone
to iOS 9, you will need to update to iTunes 12.x in order to manage
the
phone on your computer.
While I do miss my beloved iTunes SideBar, I must admit that iTunes 12,
in
some ways, feels a little more responsive and works better for me,
on
Windows, via ZoomText.
Still, iTunes will never be the same without that SideBar, so to speak
(sad
smile).
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Bell to Support iPhone Wi-Fi Calling

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



For Canadians on here:
Apple Confirms Bell to Support iPhone Wi-Fi Calling. More info at:

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/bell/bell-iphone-wifi-calling/

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Re: Doc icons he was paper

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



I'm not trying to be a jerk, but can you please try dictating that again,
with some punctuation?
At 11:59 AM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
I have the iPhone six loss
running iOS nine 28 after upgrading yesterday my Doc icons he uses your
if I restart my iPhone they come back EDI he'll want I can do to stop
this.
John Mccallister
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Re: To All iTunes 11 Devotees

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



Whoops, I guess these are called
favorites. Anyway, this Applevis discussion varifies that yep this is
gone, but now just part of Search.

http://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ios-app-discussion/app-switcher-favorites-ios-9

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Re: Invoking caps lock with IOS9 VoiceOver

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



I thought it was always triple tap on Shift for turning caps lock
on?
At 01:27 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
Hi,
I am using an iPhone with IOS9. When I double tap the shift key on
the
touch screen to invoke all caps I am noticing that VoiceOver will
state that the shift key is selected; however, the cap only occurs
for
one letter and not subsequent ones. Is this a bug in IOS9 or is
there
something that I am doing wrong? Double tapping the shift key to
invoke the caps lock worked in IOS8.
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RE: Invoking caps lock with IOS9 VoiceOver

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



thanks, good to know. I'll try that here.
At 02:49 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
From my limited testing I think
you have to put a finger on the shift key and then do a double tap, so
basically a split tap, but with a double tap instead of a single tap. For
me this was the only way I could figure out how to enable caps lock in
iOS 9.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Invoking caps lock with IOS9 VoiceOver
Hi,
I am using an iPhone with IOS9. When I double tap the shift key on
the
touch screen to invoke all caps I am noticing that VoiceOver will
state that the shift key is selected; however, the cap only occurs
for
one letter and not subsequent ones. Is this a bug in IOS9 or is
there
something that I am doing wrong? Double tapping the shift key to
invoke the caps lock worked in IOS8.
Thank you in advance for any responses
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Re: Inability to type with bluetooth keyboard in iOS9?

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



well, in Mail, Messages, FB Messenger, etc. I simply cannot type into
edit fields with my Logitech Keys-to-Go bluetooth keyboard.  I'm not
sure what else I can add other than this particular bug affects me. I'm
using a 6+ purchased in December.
At 03:50 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
Hi all,
I'm curious about iOS9's bug that prevents typing with bluetooth
keyboards for some users. I didn't see this in my own testing, though I
don't really use a bluetooth keyboard often. I didn't hear about anyone
else running into this one either, and I talked to several testers during
the beta cycle. I'm not doubting it happens, I just want to try to figure
out why it happens. I'm going to be asked by some TVIs and other people
whether they should upgrade the devices of their students and clients,
and I am not sure what to tell them about this bug. Any information you
can provide would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: iOS 9 and my Logitech BT Keyboard

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



Generally, should we be reporting accessibility issues to the
accessibility team 
accessibil...@apple.com
or should we also submit things through more general purpose Apple
contact forms? I guess what I'm wondering is, do things submitted to just
the Accessibility Team make it to the right people further up the chain
at Apple?
 
At 02:06 PM 9/17/2015, you wrote:
Hi Chris 
I have been having exactly the same problems with my bluetooth keyboard.
It is definitely a serious bug. I have reported it to Apple, and would
urge you and anyone else who experiences it to do the same ASAP.
Hopefully, the more of us who report it the more  notice they might
take and the sooner this awful bug might get fixed!! I for one am really
struggling not being able to use my keyboard!! 
Eleanor 
Sent from my iPad
> On 17 Sep 2015, at 18:54, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
wrote:
> 
> The external bluetooth keyboard bug was known and Jonathan pointed
it out in his list of bugs which he posted yesterday once iOS 9 was
publically available and which I also reposted since I hadn't seen
Jonathan's post at the time. Nothing much you can do about it except wait
for the fix.
> 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 9 and my Logitech BT Keyboard
> 
> Thoughts:  have you tried the alternative method of pressing
up/down arrows together?  have you tried re-pairing keyboard? 
Might be 
> worth looking at the alternative capslock as VO key option,
too.
> 
> Those are the thoughts,  they don't come thick and fast at this
hour.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chris Smart" <csma...@cogeco.ca>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 5:13 AM
> Subject: iOS 9 and my Logitech BT Keyboard
> 
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> So far, everything is going well with iOS 9 on my iPhone 6+. Things
appear snappier and stable, except for a couple things.
> 
> I can no longer type into edit fields, like the Messages or FB
Messenger apps, with my external LogitechKeys-to-Go keyboard.  When
I 
> hear that I am on an Edit field, have QuickNav off and do VO+Space
as usual, I hear the boundary sound effect when I try to type. By 
> that I mean that I hear the sound VoiceOver makes when you try to go
past the bottom edge of a window, the last item of a list etc.
> Are any other folks having trouble with external keyboards?
> 
> Also, I went looking for the new battery item that supposedly lists
remaining battery percentage of connected Bluetooth devices, but 
> can't find it.  I swipe down as usual, double-tap Today, find
and double-tap Edit, and Battery is not in the list of things I can 
> add or remove from the daily summary.  Anyone else tried this
feature?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions,
> 
> Chris
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Beware of Apple-related Fishing Attempts

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Smart



Hi folks. 
I'm sure most of us are smart enough not to just click on any old thing
we find in our inboxes, but just in case, here's a warning.
In the last week I've received at least five fake emails pretending to be
from iTunes, the App Store, etc. all telling me about purchases
supposedly made with my Apple ID.  Examining the emails closely
reveals them to be fraudulant. For example, one I just received came
from
"Customer Support Service Inc."

obviously not from Apple.
Another of these emails contained at least two typos.
I guess the people behind these sorts of things spew more of this stuff
around major updates.
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Re: Bluetooth earpiece and dictation or using Siri

2015-09-16 Thread Chris Smart



I don't know if this helps, but whenever I'm talking to someone on an
earpiece with an adjustable microphone, the intelligibility suffers as
soon as that mic is no longer in line with their mouth.
At 12:40 PM 9/15/2015, you wrote:
Mary, I would venture to say
that it is the fault of your ear piece.  I have the Bose ear piece,
and the Bose bluetooth headphones, and use them with Siri and dictation
with good success.  Let me say this.  If there is a good bit of
background noise, it might take a little longer.  It certainly isn't
as fast as using the apple ear phones or something else with a chord,
but, I am quite satisfied with my results from both of these bose
products.  I hope this helps.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Mary Otten 
wrote:
> 
> I have an iPhone 5 S with a Plantronics voyager headset. I guess I
should call it an earpiece, since it's just one, not to ear phones. I
have had this for a while, so I know it is not the latest and greatest. I
mostly have use this quite successfully when out in coffee shops or
restaurants or other public places, where I want to read email or
articles, or surf the web or whatever. However, lately, I have actually
tried using it for dictation, say, to answer mail, or to use Siri. And
the results have been hideous. It just never works. I have tried the home
button to activate Siri. I have tried double tapping the dictation button
to activate dictation. I think once, I even tried hitting a button on the
earpiece to see if that would work. What usually happens is I get the two
beeps followed almost immediately by the one beep indicating that
dictation or Siri is closed. Sometimes I get a crash. Sometimes the
headset connects and disconnects. And, the audio starts sounding quite
strange, rather like an old telephone connection. It just doesn't work.
Am I doing something wrong? Or is this something that should be fixed if
I got a new earpiece and my new phone which should be here in a couple of
weeks?
> Mary
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Re: is the bigger screen on the iphone worth the money?

2015-09-16 Thread Chris Smart



the camera improvements in the 6+ may improve scanning/OCR results. the
larger screen means things aren't so jammed together and you may prefer
it for on-screen Braille entry. The battery life is a little better than
the 6. etc. 
At 11:11 PM 9/15/2015, you wrote:
I’m looking to upgrade from my
iPhone 4 to one in the iphone 6 series.  I’m curious if those who
have chosen a 6 plus would do it again considering that we might not make
the most of the larger screen?  Does it really matter if I’m mainly
using it with screen curtain on?  
 
 
 
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Re: Update Question

2015-09-16 Thread Chris Smart



it's a good reminder that swiping isn't the be all and end all. Sometimes
you have to explore!
At 08:53 PM 9/16/2015, you wrote:
Hi John And All Who answered
me!  I was able to get my update done, but unfortunately, my sighted
husband discovered the Download and Install button and invoked it for
me.  When we did it, I hadn't heard back from anyone yet.  Now
I wish I had waited so that I could have experienced this for
myself!  What an odd way for the button to react when we are all so
used to swipiing around the screen!  I wonder what the reason for
designing the update screen in this way could possibly be? Hopefully next
time I'll remember this and know exactly what to do!Again, thanks so much
for all the help!  This list is awesome!
Desi
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
 wrote:
> 
> It's below the update information. You can't swipe to get to it.
You
> need to touch around. It's toward the right edge but near the
center
> of the screen.
> 
>> On 9/16/15, Destene Noller 
wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There doesn't seem to be a download and install button at least
that
>> VoiceOver is reading.  I only have my phone, so updating
through iTunes
>> isn't possible.
>> 
>> Desi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, christopher hallsworth
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try touching the "download and install" button. Or
try updating via
>>> iTunes.
>>> Chris
 On 16 Sep 2015, at 20:40, Destene Noller

 wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 My husband just finished updating his iPad and now is
updating his phone.
 Each time I go into Settings under Software Update, iOS
9 comes up, but
 it says it is dimmed.  Is this simply because the
servers are too busy?
 Thanks!
 
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Re: My top iOS 9 Bugs

2015-09-16 Thread Chris Smart



Hi Jonathan. Thanks for listing the Bluetooth keyboard issue, #2 below.

Hopefully they'lll get a fix out soon!

At 01:15 PM 9/16/2015, you wrote:
Hi everyone, now that the NDA is
lifted, here are some things I think you might like to be aware of in iOS
9.
I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than
its predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll
enjoy. Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that
range from minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how you
use your device and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a
few that you might like to take into consideration before deciding
whether to wait for a bug fix release before installing iOS 9. Remember
that a few days following iOS 9's release, it will not be possible to
downgrade again, so you should consider the upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way
trip, and proceed with caution if anything below concerns you.
1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant
accessibility bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due
to the number of people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at
present, even after extensive testing with a range of people owning
different devices, I have no information about why it affects some users,
but not others. It is not device specific, for example it is happening to
me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but I know iPhone 6 Plus users where the problem
isn't so severe. Nor does it seem to be affected by any setting. If
you're lucky, it won't happen to you, but the only way I am aware of to
determine this is to upgrade.
This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected to
the headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing
bug manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime
call. You can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug
because your ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way
VOiceOver causes system audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is
enabled. At this point, if you press the power button to silence the
ringer and then flick through the screen, you will find that not only has
VOiceOver become unresponsive, but the entire phone has as well.
If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but
instead opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer
button or review caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at
all.
Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger
double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively
locked up.
The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be
able to answer a call.
Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when
their phone is set to silent.
If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal
breaker in terms of upgrading at this point.
What makes this bug so fascinating is that not only is it completely
absent for some people, but of those who experience it, not all symptoms
are present for all users. For example, some people experience the issues
I have described when they press the power button to mute the ringer, but
not when the phone is ringing. Others can answer a call by pressing the
button on their EarPods, while others cannot.
If you upgrade and are affected by this, here are a few things to
try.
(A) If you have the more moderate version of this bug, avoid pressing the
power button when you receive an incoming call.
(B) Turning off audio ducking seems to help a little for some users.
(C) If you can't answer a call with a two-finger double-tap, try pressing
the button on your EarPods or similar device if you have such a device
connected.
(D) If all else fails, you can disconnect any device from the headphone
jack, answer the call with a two-finger double-tap, then reconnect the
device to the headphone jack.
(E) Given the critical nature of this bug, if you've upgraded and now
find yourself afflicted by it, enrol in the iOS beta program so you can
receive early copies of any fixes Apple is working on. But keep in mind
that since you will be running beta software, you may well be swapping
one set of bugs for another.
2. Bluetooth keyboard support unreliable. Sometimes, users may input
double letters when typing. This is a bug that was introduced in the iOS
8 cycle, and can easily be worked around by toggling VoiceOver off and
on.
However, a new bug now exists where at times, no text is entered into a
field at all when VO is active. Toggling VO doesn't help, nor does
switching the keyboard off and on. The only immediate remedy is to turn
Vo off, and keep typing without it. If you turn VO back on again, the
arrow keys don't work when you're trying to navigate your text, and you
can't edit it.
3. In the Today view of Notification Center, VO frequently restarts
itself when flicking through your widgets, and sometimes the phone locks
up entirely.
4. It's much less

Re: Appeal for the Fopydo Book Reader Kickstart

2015-09-16 Thread Chris Smart



well, for $25 you get the attachment, asuming you already have the stand.
For $35 you get both the stand and the attachment!
At 11:10 PM 9/16/2015, you wrote:
Richard,
On the page for the kick starter project for the book attachment, there
seem to be two levels of support, one for just the book attachment, and
the other one that sounds very much like it includes the stand. $25
versus $35. Have you been to that page? And if so, what do you make of
the $35 option?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Richard Turner
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richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
I want to try and help clear up
what might be some confusion.
 
The Book reading attachment is just that, an attachment for the Fopydo
Scanning Stand.  The attachment is not of much use without the
stand.
 
The attachment is designed to primarily help with scanning books by
holding the pages open without having to keep your hands on the
book.
It has adjustable sides made out of memory foam that you can move to fit
different sized books and just keep the pages from flopping back
closed.  It is really hard to describe it beyond that.
 
The Fopydo Scanning Stand is the most portable of the stands on the
market and, in my opinion, the easiest to set up and break down. 
But, that is only my opinion.
I have used or own all four of the stands that I know of on the
market.
The Fopydo Stand
The ScanJig
The StandScan Pro
And The Giraffe Reader.
 
The only one that is going to be really efficient for scanning books is
the Fopydo Stand with the new Book Attachment that he is trying to get
funded through KickStarter.  
You can do books with the StandScan Pro, but it is very awkward since you
are working inside a box and have to hold the pages open with at least
one hand.
 
If you aren't planning to ever scan books or legal sized documents, most
of the stands are just fine.
 
The ScanJig is the most durable but you are limited to 8.5 by 11 inch
documents.
 
The Fopydo can be raised up to about 14 inches above the desk so you can
easily do legal sized documents or two pages of a book.
 
The ScanJig, StandScan, and Giraffe Reader all hold the camera between 11
and 12 inches maximum away from the page.
 
I will paste, once again, my summary of each stand with links to them
where people can research more detail as they wish.
Scanning Stands

ScanJig, $40.00 plus shipping
ScanJig is made from hard plastic and is quite durable. It uses room
light or the camera flash for getting a good stand. It measures 9 by 13,
by 1.5 inches when closed. The assembly instructions are good and you can
call them to get help if necessary. 
Phone: 800-390-1125 
Web site: www.scanjig.com
Fopydo Scanning Stand for the Blind and Visually
Impaired
FopyDo stands for Photo-Copy-Document. It is a great new concept in
stands. It measures 11.75 by 9.5 by .5 inches when folded up. It is made
from corrugated plastic and folds up very nicely. Easy to set up and the
default height is 10.5 inches and works great for scanning an 8.5 by 11
inch sheet of paper. At its tallest setting, it puts the device about 14
inches from the desk and will work for scanning legal sized documents or
both pages of a book at once. There are two metal legs that have
microsuction tape on the ends so it doesn't slide on slick surfaces.
This new version is now available.ï¿½ order Fopydo using Pay pal or a
credit card from:
Fopydo web
site
Or, from Amazon at:

Amazon.com Fopydo Scanning Stand
Deployment and
operation instructions for fOPYDO
StandScan Pro Power bundle, $37.95 (StandScan Pro by itself
$34.99)
StandScan Pro is a document scanning stand that turns your mobile phone
into a document scanner. Combined with any of the OCR apps, provides
excellent access to documents for VoiceOver users. With the built-in LED
lights, you don't have to worry about lighting in the room and since the
phone is kept level and at the right height for getting a clear image of
the document, the OCr results are quite excellent.
The Power Bundle includes the following accessories in the price:

12V DC power adaptor to power your StandScan PRO, $4.95
12V portable battery pack for StandScan Pro (8 AA battery holder),
$4.95
9 volt battery pack, included with the StandScan Pro.
To read more or to order, go to:

StandScan Power Bundle 
Giraffe Reader
 From the Giraffe Reader web page on March 14, 2015: 
iPhone6? I'm afraid to say that the Giraffe Reader does not currently fit
the iPhone6 or 6-plus, but I'm hoping to design one very soon. Please
email me to register your interest, so I know how important this is to
you all. It also doesn't yet fit the iPad, or any Android phones at the
moment. Again please email if you'd like me to do this next. I've not
managed it yet both because the Giraffe width exactly matches the older
iPhones, and because the breadth of the cameras on all smartphones and
tablets varies quite a bit.
Introductory price of only $54.50 US, or ï¿½32
Free delivery worldwide for blind people
Easy payment through Paypal

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iOS 9 and my Logitech BT Keyboard

2015-09-16 Thread Chris Smart



Hi folks.
So far, everything is going well with iOS 9 on my iPhone 6+. Things
appear snappier and stable, except for a couple things.
I can no longer type into edit fields, like the Messages or FB Messenger
apps, with my external LogitechKeys-to-Go keyboard.  When I hear
that I am on an Edit field, have QuickNav off and do VO+Space as usual, I
hear the boundary sound effect when I try to type. By that I mean that I
hear the sound VoiceOver makes when you try to go past the bottom edge of
a window, the last item of a list etc.
Are any other folks having trouble with external keyboards?
Also, I went looking for the new battery item that supposedly lists
remaining battery percentage of connected Bluetooth devices, but can't
find it.  I swipe down as usual, double-tap Today, find and
double-tap Edit, and Battery is not in the list of things I can add or
remove from the daily summary.  Anyone else tried this
feature?
Thanks for any suggestions,
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Submitting App Crash Reports

2015-09-14 Thread Chris Smart

Hi folks. The developer of an app is requesting that I submit logged crash 
reports by selecting the text in a report from the list found in Settings > 
Privacy > Diagnostics and Usage > Diagnostic and Usage Data, nd pasting said 
text into the body of an email to them.  I can bring up the list of diagnostic 
reports, open one by double-tapping, but cannot figure out how to select the 
text and copy it to the clipboard.  I'm not seeing any controls to do this in 
the rotar, and this is not a typical edit field.

So, what am I missing? Probably something really simple right? Or is this not 
possible with Voiceover on?

thanks for any suggestions.

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Peek & Pop Features of 6S Will Be Voiceover Accessible

2015-09-12 Thread Chris Smart



This blog post at Applevis has the details:

http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-iphone-news/apple-confirms-peek-and-pop-features-new-iphone-6s-will-be-accessible

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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Chris Smart



wish I had as much leisure time as some of you appear to have.
At 11:14 PM 9/11/2015, you wrote:
I hope not. I'd still like to
hear from others if it worked or not and if they're getting the radio
feeds or the audio of the TV feeds.
I guess if you're not interested in this thread, you can use the delete
key. Using a threaded email client would also help you to avoid threads
you aren't interested in.
I'm also not sure individual users should be able to decide what threads
continue and don't continue on this list. I'd suggest we leave that up to
Cara.
On 09/11/2015 10:08 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
Oh jesus, dramafest 2.0. Since
the NFL released an update that includes live audio listening, Iâ€™d like
to think this thread can be closed now.
On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:51 PM,
Donald L. Roberts  wrote:
Christopher, you certainly have the right to pontificate about anything
you choose.  However, I too have the right to express the idea that
the Sirius subscription is a better value.  You show me anything in
my previous messages which was critical, expressed or implied.
Don Roberts

On 9/11/2015 4:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
The fact that you think the
NFL's Game Pass is worth little to nothing is your own opinion, and based
on your message, I don't really think you respect someone who's signs up
for NFL Game Pass. I got the same criticism as a Audio Pass subscriber in
the past, but being able to effortlessly pull up any radio feed of any
game I wanted was worth $20 to me. I decided it wasn't worth $99 to me,
so I passed on a Game Pass subscription this season, but I would never
criticize someone else who did. I have no idea what their economic
situation is or how much they value the convenience of NFL Game Pass.
Unless I'm mistaken, Sirius isn't a free service. I don't have a Sirius
subscription, but I would never say it's worth little to nothing just
because I don't choose to pay for a subscription myself. IMHO, we should
focus on accessibility discussions on this list and talk about accessible
alternatives and not make judgment statements on those who choose a
different service or product than the
one we use.



On 09/11/2015 11:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
I respect anyone's right to
spend $99 for little or nothing if they
wish.  For my money,  I will put up with a five minute delay
and listen
with no difficulty to any live game of my choosing on Sirius.
Don Roberts

On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
Those apps are absolutely
terrible for listening to games, in my
opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app, Iâ€™ll listen
to
them on the computer, I suppose.
Hopefully itâ€™ll be added soon.
On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM,
Wayne Merritt  wrote:
Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night with one of the
free
apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or something, and each
Steelers station I tried either had other programming on, or a
repeating message that said they were sorry but they could not
broadcast the game online due to contract obligations. Though I
don't
want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to the games other
than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and get GamePass.
I'm
a huge football fan and would like to listen to games other than
from
my home team without jumping through hoops.
Wayne
On 9/11/15, Rich Ring  wrote:
And, the NFL is the wealthiest
sport in the nation, and the only one
that
doesnâ€™t currently offer a way to listen to live radio broadcasts!
And the
other apps like Pro Football and All Football are hit and miss!
On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM,
Daniel Miller 
wrote:
Hi all,
Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app
and game
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only
through
the mac or PC.
I really hope Iâ€™m really hoping Iâ€™m missing something, but it
doesnâ€™t look
like I am.
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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

2015-09-11 Thread Chris Smart



yeah. enough already! 
At 11:08 PM 9/11/2015, you wrote:
Oh jesus, dramafest 2.0. Since
the NFL released an update that includes live audio listening, Iâ€™d like
to think this thread can be closed now.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Donald L. Roberts
 wrote:
> 
> Christopher, you certainly have the right to pontificate about
anything you choose.  However, I too have the right to express the
idea that the Sirius subscription is a better value.  You show me
anything in my previous messages which was critical, expressed or
implied.
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
> 
> On 9/11/2015 4:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> The fact that you think the NFL's Game Pass is worth little to
nothing is your own opinion, and based on your message, I don't really
think you respect someone who's signs up for NFL Game Pass. I got the
same criticism as a Audio Pass subscriber in the past, but being able to
effortlessly pull up any radio feed of any game I wanted was worth $20 to
me. I decided it wasn't worth $99 to me, so I passed on a Game Pass
subscription this season, but I would never criticize someone else who
did. I have no idea what their economic situation is or how much they
value the convenience of NFL Game Pass. Unless I'm mistaken, Sirius isn't
a free service. I don't have a Sirius subscription, but I would never say
it's worth little to nothing just because I don't choose to pay for a
subscription myself. IMHO, we should focus on accessibility discussions
on this list and talk about accessible alternatives and not make judgment
statements on those who choose a different service or product than the
one we use.
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/11/2015 11:55 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
>>> I respect anyone's right to spend $99 for little or nothing
if they
>>> wish.  For my money,  I will put up with a five
minute delay and listen
>>> with no difficulty to any live game of my choosing on
Sirius.
>>> 
>>> Don Roberts
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/11/2015 6:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Those apps are absolutely terrible for listening to
games, in my
 opinion. So until the NFL adds that ability to the app,
Iâ€™ll listen to
 them on the computer, I suppose.
 Hopefully itâ€™ll be added soon.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Wayne Merritt
 wrote:
> 
> Agreed. I tried to listen to the game last night
with one of the free
> apps, Pro Football Radio and Live Scores or
something, and each
> Steelers station I tried either had other
programming on, or a
> repeating message that said they were sorry but they
could not
> broadcast the game online due to contract
obligations. Though I don't
> want to, if truly no other way exists to listen to
the games other
> than GamePass then I just might bite the bullet and
get GamePass. I'm
> a huge football fan and would like to listen to
games other than from
> my home team without jumping through hoops.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 9/11/15, Rich Ring 
wrote:
>> And, the NFL is the wealthiest sport in the
nation, and the only one
>> that
>> doesnâ€™t currently offer a way to listen to
live radio broadcasts!
>> And the
>> other apps like Pro Football and All Football
are hit and miss!
>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Daniel Miller

>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I have some bad news
concerning the NFL mobile app
>>> and game
>>> pass. You cannot listen to live radio
broadcasts on the app, only
>>> through
>>> the mac or PC.
>>> I really hope Iâ€™m really hoping Iâ€™m
missing something, but it
>>> doesnâ€™t look
>>> like I am.
>>> 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good full-size external bluetooth keybboard that works well with IPad?

2015-09-10 Thread Chris Smart




http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-keyboards/logitech-keys-go-bluetooth-keyboard-excelent

Dimensions: 5.39" by 9.53" by 0.24" That's right, it's
only a quarter-inch thick.
not exactly full-size, but big enough I have no trouble typing on it at
full speed.
At 05:14 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
Hi all 
Just wondered if anyone has any recommendations  for a good 
full-sized external bluetooth keyboard that would work  well with
IPad? My current one has finally given up on me, and despite trying
everything I can think of itt just doesn't want to work any more. So I'm
going to have to get a new one. So any recommendations of good products
would be much appreciated. 
Thanks. 
Eleanor 
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