apple music?

['Dave Mitchel' via VIPhone]

I asked my new SE 2022 yesterday to open Radio northwest for me and 
instead Ciri opened apple music and played some goofy song I did not 
want. then I was informed that she had signed me up for the 7 day free 
trial with apple music. I do not want apple music, so how do I get away 
from that supposed free trial of it?


thanks for any assistance in advance,

Dave

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Re: Keypad After Receiving A Call

[Dave Mitchel]

low power mode is off and 5 minutes is what auto lock.


On 4/24/2021 7:50 AM, Richard Turner wrote:


Are you using low power mode?

Or, what is your auto lock setting under settings, display and brightness?

Richard

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Of *Dave Mitchel

*Sent:* Saturday, April 24, 2021 7:39 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Keypad After Receiving A Call

I checked this and all is well, but my problem is that the keypad 
disappears after only a few seconds of answering a call. I have to 
continually tap a number to keep the keypad showing on screen. also 
the  blacking out way too fast when trying to enter pin numbers etc.


On 4/24/2021 5:49 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

thanks, I am having this problem as well, will try this fix and
see how we get on.

Cait



On Apr 23, 2021, at 9:34 PM, Dave Clement mailto:dclem...@mymts.net>> wrote:

Hello,

I suspect you are running into the IOS 14 change in which the
Phone app default was set to display just one line on the top
or bottom of the screen. This was probably a productivity type
change intended to allow a sighted user to continue to see
whatever app they were using when the call comes in. They can
deal with the call by tapping that one line notification for
the call.

We can do this with Voiceover also but it is somewhat awkward.
A more useful alternative is to alter the default setting for
the Phone app.

If this is your situation, you can reset the Phone app to its
former behaviour where it will use a full screen for the call
information. This should give you back your number pad when
the call comes in. You can do this in:

Settings / phone / Incoming calls

Double tap this button and choose the full screen option.

I hope this helps.

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB


On Apr 23, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Edward Przybylek
mailto:przy5...@rochester.rr.com>>
wrote:



Hi all,

In the past, my phone would display the telephone keypad
whenever I received a call.  Lately, however, the keypad is no
longer displayed when I receive calls.  I really don’t know
when this began happening.  It’s a real problem whenever I get
a call that requires a numeric response such as confirming a
doctor’s appointment etc.  I’ve looked all through settings
but I can’t find anything that would let me display the keypad
during a call.  Does anyone know how or if I can return things
back to the way they were?  If not, how are others handling
this situation?  As always, any help is greatly appreciated. 
Stay well.

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

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Re: Keypad After Receiving A Call

[Dave Mitchel]

I checked this and all is well, but my problem is that the keypad 
disappears after only a few seconds of answering a call. I have to 
continually tap a number to keep the keypad showing on screen. also the  
blacking out way too fast when trying to enter pin numbers etc.


On 4/24/2021 5:49 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
thanks, I am having this problem as well, will try this fix and see 
how we get on.


Cait


On Apr 23, 2021, at 9:34 PM, Dave Clement > wrote:


Hello,

I suspect you are running into the IOS 14 change in which the Phone 
app default was set to display just one line on the top or bottom of 
the screen. This was probably a productivity type change intended to 
allow a sighted user to continue to see whatever app they were using 
when the call comes in. They can deal with the call by tapping that 
one line notification for the call.


We can do this with Voiceover also but it is somewhat awkward. A more 
useful alternative is to alter the default setting for the Phone app.


If this is your situation, you can reset the Phone app to its former 
behaviour where it will use a full screen for the call information. 
This should give you back your number pad when the call comes in. You 
can do this in:


Settings / phone / Incoming calls

Double tap this button and choose the full screen option.

I hope this helps.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Apr 23, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Edward Przybylek 
mailto:przy5...@rochester.rr.com>> wrote:



Hi all,
In the past, my phone would display the telephone keypad whenever I 
received a call.  Lately, however, the keypad is no longer displayed 
when I receive calls. I really don’t know when this began happening.  
It’s a real problem whenever I get a call that requires a numeric 
response such as confirming a doctor’s appointment etc.  I’ve looked 
all through settings but I can’t find anything that would let me 
display the keypad during a call.  Does anyone know how or if I can 
return things back to the way they were? If not, how are others 
handling this situation?  As always, any help is greatly 
appreciated.  Stay well.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek

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Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

[Dave Mitchel]

it's the new math! lol

-Original Message- 
From: Marie

Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

Okay, how can a 5.4 inch phone be smaller than a 4.7 inch phone?



Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Peter Logan

Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

The rumored 5.4 inch phone rumored for this fall will be exactly what you
are stating ..  If the rumors are true it will be  slightly smaller than the
4.7 in. SE...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

They need to keep being innovative in order to keep selling.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen and
virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home button
wouldn't have to take up space at the bottom of the screen they could easily
make such a phone in the size of an old 5S or the original SE. Of course
whether this is going to happen is anybody's guess, don't think it is
anything which we'll see in the next couple of years, but who knows what
they'll do in 3 or 4 years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again. I'm
guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home page, not 20
like the original SE phones.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.

Dave.


From: kitty hevener 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning


Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I
purchased an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting
the thing to work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple
accessability desk, and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning



First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from
2012 and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus
and the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone
5S which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more.
This means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the
way from 2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade
to this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM
and from the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that
much of a difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open
faster, the app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how
many seconds a day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody
who still has an iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want
to see what Apple comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face
Id and 5G support, but unless there are some other compelling aspects I will
probably wait until the fall of 2021.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning



No one 

Re: Stimulus Info

[Dave Mitchel]

my understanidingis the first wave of checks went out this week and arrived 
today for those who had taxes paid or paid their taxes last year. the second 
wave of payments will  go out pretty soon to ss and ssdI persons who use direct 
deposit. these should arrive later this week or early next week. those who use 
mail for receiving of their checks will be later as checks have to be ritten 
and printed out etc. 
several of my friends received their direct deposits today. 


From: Marie 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Stimulus Info

This is correct and I think there are many countries that are not giving their 
citizens anything.

Marie

From: Justin Harris 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Stimulus Info

Yeah no doubt, and it seems like everything has gotten more expensive these 
days. Thank God for services like Instacart. But even then you have to be able 
to tip your delivery people, so even that adds up after a while. Not knowing 
exactly when we can expect our payment is frustrating. Trust me, I'm checking 
online banking multiple times a day. But I also look at it like this. This is 
money I wasn't even expecting to receive until just a few weeks ago, so a 
pretty big blessing. And while I would rather know more, it seems that for 
those of us on disability, the answer is, it will get here when it gets here. 
Nothing we can really do about it, so might as well relax a bit. 

Enviado desde mi iPhone


  El 04/15/2020, a la(s) 4:42 p. m., Terri Hedgpeth  
escribió:


   
  Well folks, you can’t have it both ways. For those who work or who have a 
disability check and live on their own they were expenses are greater than 
those of you who live with parents. It’s all about choices. Right?
  Best,
  Terri

  On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:34 PM Gordon  wrote:

this is the part of this stimulus package I don't understand. No, if 
you're listed as a dependent on another person's taxes, no one gets 
anything for you. You don't get the $1,200 and the person who claimed 
you gets nothing for you either. This applies to disabled adults who are 
claimed on someone's taxes. This doesn't make sense, but nothing really 
does in the tax code.

On 4/15/2020 4:32 PM, Justin Harris wrote:
> Oh man, that really didn't work out well for you. He should see an extra 
500 on his check because of that, so hopefully he might pass
> that along.
>
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
>> El 04/15/2020, a la(s) 3:43 p. m., Joshua Hendrickson 
 escribió:
>>
>> Well, since I live at home with my parents, my dad claimed me as a
>> dependent or independent or whatever it is on his taxes, so I know I
>> won't get a check.
>>
>>> On 4/15/20, Justin Harris  wrote:
>>> I got that same message. Guessing it's because I didn't file taxes. 
Seems
>>> like that system isn't integrated with the ssa, so since there is no tax
>>> info for many of us, that is what is saying. Rather frustrating, as I 
wanted
>>> to know as many of you do exactly when we could expect our payments, 
but no
>>> such luck.  However, I have read everywhere that we are indeed 
elegible, and
>>> will be getting them, so basically we just have to play the waiting 
game.
>>>
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>>
 El 04/15/2020, a la(s) 2:28 p. m., Michael Amaro 

 escribió:

 I went to check my status got the following:

 based on the infromation we have on file we can not determine your
 eligibility at this time

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 From: "MamaPeach" 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:36 AM
 To: 
 Subject: Re: Stimulus Info

> I know someone who gets SSDI who got there's this morning, but I know 
3
> others on SSDI who did not get theirs.
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Stimulus Info
>
> The information my wife is seeing on the lists she is on says that 
SSDI
> recipients won't get theirs for several weeks.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Rebecca Degeorge
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Stimulus Info
>
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Re: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

[Dave Mitchel]

I just tell ciri to open settings for me. easiest way I have found.


-Original Message- 
From: Sandra Streeter

Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

Indeed, it does! since I'm sort-of used to it, think I'll stick with my 
current model. Now, if I could just figure out how to get back to the 
Settings menu when I need it... I am still a newbee, just starting to tackle 
common tasks--tech dinosaur that I am, having had it for almost 2 years! 
Unfortunately, don't do well with the audio training materials, and the 
Braille materials I know of aren't always specific enough or written in a 
helpful order...



Sandra


The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind —

(Emily Dickinson)

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

UnFortunately, No, the  ForthComin' Se
is  Predicted ToBe the SameSize as  Apple's
iPhone8 Not the SameSize as  "The Original" SE, I
hope This Answers YourQuestion & FulFills YourCuriosity
At 09:51 AM 4/8/2020, you wrote:

Another curiosity question: I have an 8
currently, but wondered if the SE, as with older
SE's, would be smaller in the hand--I am
small-handed, so it would be something to think about if I considered 
changing.



 Sandra


The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind —
(Emily Dickinson)

-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 8 vs the new SE 2020?

Hello,


I’ve been watching the conversation aboutthe
new SE with interest.  I was curious and looked
on E Bay at iPhone 8 prices and they are quite affordable.


For the sake of this conversation let’s assume
that the prices are close, which is the more updated phone?  The 8 or new 
SE?



Thanks for your hellp,


Kim

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Re: New iPhone SE possibly coming tomorrow

[Dave Mitchel]

no one from verizon or best buy heard a thing about any release of the se yet. 
they offered to sell me other Iphones but not the se.

From: Dennis Long 
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New iPhone SE possibly coming tomorrow

Was it announced?  I read April 15th.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:09 PM
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There are rumours Apple will quietly announce and release the new iPhone SE 
tomorrow.

I guess we’ll find out soon.

 

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Re: Seeing AI and Short Text Channel Inquiry

[Dave Mitchel]

Robin, 
I to have noticed this over the past few weeks. 
nothing I have tried seems to help it to work except closing the entire program 
and reopening it. Even then it does not seem to work as well as it used to. 
I’m using an SE. 
Dave 

From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 4:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Seeing AI and Short Text Channel Inquiry

Hi,
Since Seeing AI was mentioned in another thread I thought I’d inquire about its 
short text channel specifically as in recent weeks it’s become increasingly 
less responsive on my iPhone XS Max so as to be almost useless. Other channels 
still seem to work alright but short text for me as I said is almost 
unresponsive.  Is it just me? I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app with 
no impact.
As a result I find myself using other tools for the task which is why I often 
have multiple apps that accomplish similar tasks as one never knows when an app 
will decide not to play nice.

Thanks for all insights.
Robin

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Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

[Dave Mitchel]

I’ll take the knowledge. good luck on it. 
Thanks 
Dave 

From: J.Cyr 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

I think your way is generally easier, lets just say doing this without an 
audience will make me happier.  And if I find out how to do it off list I'll be 
happy to share the details!
Joy
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Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

[Dave Mitchel]

oh, ok. I have never heard of this but do understand it. I hope it will work 
for you and if so can you let me know how to do it? 
Thanks, Dave 

From: J.Cyr 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

Thank you Dave, I do understand that being near enough for the WIFI network to 
show  automatically and then joining it is a simple way to add a network.  
However, the option to manually enter the information (network name and 
password) is available on other devices and if it is available on the IPhone I 
would really prefer to use it in this specific instance.

Joy


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Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

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Joy, 
I think you have to be in the proximity of the new one you want to hook into. 
you can then set it up to where it connects automaticllly and reconnects to 
your own when you come home. 
I have mine set to connect to several different places around town 
automatically. 
Dave 

From: J.Cyr 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Adding A New WIFI Network

Good day,
I would like to add a second WIFI network to my IPhone 8.  What is the easiest 
way to go about doing this please?  I am not close enough for the network name 
to display automatically, and while I've seen the button with my own WIFI name 
I'm not sure where to find the set up for a  second connection.  (And this does 
need to be an addition, my current one has to stay up and functional now and in 
the future.)

Thank you for any help,
Sincerely,
Joy
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Re: Everyday tasks that few people do anymore because of technology, USA Today

[Dave Mitchel]

Kelly, I use a lot of cash also in my small town. I just paid all the labor 
on a new roof for my house in cash...people love cash.



-Original Message- 
From: Kelly Pierce

Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Everyday tasks that few people do anymore because of 
technology, USA Today


I wear a braille wrist watch and carry cash.  What does that make me?
I love technology but wish to avoid the blind nerd look of multiple
talking devices with wires coming out of my ears and pockets.  A white
clock face with black hands on a vintage 70 year old watch looks hip
by preserving the simplicity of telling time.

Carrying cash is a different story.  When I go to a small business, I
pay in cash.  Waitresses remember me because I tip them in cash, which
they can keep for themselves.  Some service businesses expect cash.
The best barbers here only accept cash.  At my barbershop, they even
have an old fashioned cash register that rings a bell with each
transaction.  I also feel more comfortable handing a cabbie cash in a
new city than hand over a credit card, which could be skimmed.  Fees
on cards are expensive.  I just gave my neighborhood gym owner several
$100 bills to pay for my gym membership.  If I were to use a credit
card, it would cost him about $10.  I would rather he receive all of
my money instead of a banker who is doing almost nothing acting as a
middleman.  Yes, he has an iPhone and I could zap him the money
through Apple Pay Cash, but he co-owns the business with a partner so
the money needs to go from his phone to his personal account then to
the business account.  With cash, he easily could divvy up the money
without the transfer hassles.


After I give people cash, they remember me and respond positively to
me in the future.  This is particularly so after I put a $50 or $100
bill under their nose.

Kelly




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On 6/13/19, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Since many of the items on this list involve iOS, I thought I'd post it
here
for all to enjoy.

Mark

Everyday tasks that few people do anymore because of technology, USA Today

Phone book, what's a phone book? 20 everyday tasks that nobody does 
anymore


Kim Komando  |  Special to USA TODAY Updated 6 hours ago
USA TODAY
Daily necessities are vanishing one by one, thanks to new and efficient
technology. Stamps, maps and cookbooks still exist, but we hardly ever 
need

them. Why place a personals ad when you can just "swipe left?"
The standard electronics, gear and ways of yesteryear have vanished as if
it
was never invented at all. As old formats disappear, that leaves us with
the
task of what to do with our memories.
Even services that seem new are vanishing in the name of progress; Apple 
is
killing off iTunes, for example. and here's what it means to your music 
and

movies.
Here are some rituals that are no longer required in many households. If
you're 40 years or older, you'll probably smile with nostalgia. Share this
list on social media. Others will enjoy this trip down memory lane too!

1.
Memorize a phone number
Pop quiz: How many phone numbers do you know by heart? Some people don't
even know their spouse's numbers. How times have changed. Now, you tell
your
smart assistant to call someone in your contacts, or you touch their name
on
your phone.
The earliest cellphones required you to transfer your entire directory by
hand, from the old unit to the new one; now, with cloud technology, your
contacts are automatically downloaded.
What happens if you lose your phone, say, at a Disney theme park? This
couple got separated and turned to Facebook for help.

2.
Use a phone book to find a company to do work around your house
Generation Z may not even know what "Yellow Pages" refers to. They may not
have ever seen a phone book.
Online consumer services like Angie's List and Yelp have made finding
service people easy, plus you can read other users' ratings. One of the
newer ways to find ultra-local services is Nextdoor, which has a special
section for "recommendations," along with crime watches and other local
info.

3.
Sell your car with a cardboard sign stuck on the windshield
Unless you're selling your vehicle to someone you know and trust, these
transactions can get sticky and even a little dangerous, especially with
all
the trolls. Craigslist started more than 20 years ago, and it's still 
going

strong, although it, too, still suffers from trolls and weirdos. If you
want
to sell your car, here are three sites that may be 

Re: iPhone speech

[Dave Mitchel]

Janet, 
I had this sort of problem but the phone would not talk until I restarted it. I 
called Verizon and they gave me a new SE. if you have insurance on the phone 
this could be an option. 
Dave 

From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iPhone speech

good morning, yesterday I put out a plea about my iPhone which just stopped 
talking to me.  well exactly the same thing has happened again.  it has come 
back on like yesterday but I was wondering if anyone had a clue as to why this 
should be hjappening.  as I said yesterday if I didn’t have a braille keyboard 
I wouldn’t be alble to use the phone so over to you guys.  Janet
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Re: An Aira Update

[Dave Mitchel]

any time I see your name I will. thx for all your advice on life.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Rash

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

Well, for someone tired of hitting the delete key, you sure muscled up some 
energy there.  Next time, go back to the delete key.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Mitchel

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 10:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

I could care less what Mark says 1 way or another. I think this whole damned 
thing was blown out of proportion by a bunch of whining people. I have about 
worn my finger out with the delete key and I really don't care who goes or 
who stays.

I really think it is about time people grew up.
I'm so tired of being preached to about is thing or that thing and how to 
act as a blind person. all of you stop thinking you are unique or think all 
blind people are unique. as individuals we are unique...we have our own 
thoughts on what to do and how to do it.
I am on lists to learn things I want to know about. We all have bad days and 
say things we wish could be taken back...all of us...I don't care if your 
name is Mark or Seighardt  or Jonathan or David. For goodness sake people 
let this thing go and get back to assisting others with questions and 
answers about whatever technological topic is up at the time on whatever 
list you are on at the time.
I admit I have never been on a list with sighted people, but I truly hope 
that this childish behavior is limited to the a small portion of the blind 
community.

try the serenity prayer people!

-Original Message-
From: Marie
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

I have to agree with you on this and also wonder why Mark has not responded 
in any way. I think we would all appreciate some kind of clarification on 
the issue.

Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

Hi Marie,

I haven't decided yet, but I don't think maturity has anything to do with 
it, it comes down to principle.
What really surprises me is that Mark posted what he did and never provided 
any further explanation or responded to any of the dozens of posts. He also 
didn't close the topic, but he posted two articles which would indicate that 
it's not a matter of him not having caught up with the list. I for one would 
appreciate a post from him regardless whether it's one where he maintains 
his position or one where he clarifies whether he has changed his opinion 
regarding this based on what was said. Just ignoring this doesn't help in 
making it clear whether in future it is OK to post anything which has to do 
with a service rather than directly with what button to tap in an app.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

I would hope that people like Sieghard and Richard are too mature to leave 
the list over a disagreement such as this one. They are both a wonderful 
source of assistance on all the uses of our IO devices.

Marie


-Original Message-
From: Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

Hey Carolyn. Me too. I've been here for quite a while and love this list. We 
have a lot of resourceful people on list. I would hate to lose them.


Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!!
see: tech4theblind+subscr...@groups.io if you want to talk blind 
technology!!



On Jan 27, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

I agree with you 100 percent on this Sieghard. Well said.
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

I agree that Aira while having come up at various times before is
certainly not in everybody's face all the time. If you, Andy, are
subscribe to so many lists and Podcasts where it is discussed you
obviously have a great deal of spare time for all this. I can hardly
keep up with the Viphone, Jaws and Windows 10 groups which I am
subscribed to and rarely do I hear about Aira. In fact, it's on my
list of things to do to find out more about what Aira is offering in 
Canada.

I certainly did not consider Jonathan's post inappropriate in any way
and find it regrettable that Mark apparently judged it to be so. I
don't think in a case like Aira you can separate the app from the
service. There are many examples on this list where services are
discussed. People ask questions about Apple Music or Netflix and not
always is the question strictly about the Music app or the Netflix app
but about the service

Re: An Aira Update

[Dave Mitchel]

I could care less what Mark says 1 way or another. I think this whole damned 
thing was blown out of proportion by a bunch of whining people. I have about 
worn my finger out with the delete key and I really don't care who goes or 
who stays.

I really think it is about time people grew up.
I'm so tired of being preached to about is thing or that thing and how to 
act as a blind person. all of you stop thinking you are unique or think all 
blind people are unique. as individuals we are unique...we have our own 
thoughts on what to do and how to do it.
I am on lists to learn things I want to know about. We all have bad days and 
say things we wish could be taken back...all of us...I don't care if your 
name is Mark or Seighardt  or Jonathan or David. For goodness sake people 
let this thing go and get back to assisting others with questions and 
answers about whatever technological topic is up at the time on whatever 
list you are on at the time.
I admit I have never been on a list with sighted people, but I truly hope 
that this childish behavior is limited to the a small portion of the blind 
community.

try the serenity prayer people!

-Original Message- 
From: Marie

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

I have to agree with you on this and also wonder why Mark has not responded
in any way. I think we would all appreciate some kind of clarification on
the issue.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

Hi Marie,

I haven't decided yet, but I don't think maturity has anything to do with
it, it comes down to principle.
What really surprises me is that Mark posted what he did and never provided
any further explanation or responded to any of the dozens of posts. He also
didn't close the topic, but he posted two articles which would indicate that
it's not a matter of him not having caught up with the list. I for one would
appreciate a post from him regardless whether it's one where he maintains
his position or one where he clarifies whether he has changed his opinion
regarding this based on what was said. Just ignoring this doesn't help in
making it clear whether in future it is OK to post anything which has to do
with a service rather than directly with what button to tap in an app.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

I would hope that people like Sieghard and Richard are too mature to leave
the list over a disagreement such as this one. They are both a wonderful
source of assistance on all the uses of our IO devices.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Maria Reyes

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update

Hey Carolyn. Me too. I've been here for quite a while and love this list. We
have a lot of resourceful people on list. I would hate to lose them.

Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!!
see: tech4theblind+subscr...@groups.io if you want to talk blind
technology!!


On Jan 27, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

I agree with you 100 percent on this Sieghard. Well said.
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update

I agree that Aira while having come up at various times before is
certainly not in everybody's face all the time. If you, Andy, are
subscribe to so many lists and Podcasts where it is discussed you
obviously have a great deal of spare time for all this. I can hardly keep
up with the Viphone, Jaws and Windows 10 groups which I am subscribed to
and rarely do I hear about Aira. In fact, it's on my list of things to do
to find out more about what Aira is offering in Canada.
I certainly did not consider Jonathan's post inappropriate in any way and
find it regrettable that Mark apparently judged it to be so. I don't think
in a case like Aira you can separate the app from the service. There are
many examples on this list where services are discussed. People ask
questions about Apple Music or Netflix and not always is the question
strictly about the Music app or the Netflix app but about the service in
general and I therefore wonder what makes Aira so different. There have
been lengthy discussions here about the services and phone plans offered
by various US cell phone providers where I am pretty sure Mark has
participated or even initiated the topic and that is hardly only iPhone
related.
But of course groups like Viphone are not democracies and Mark is the
moderator so I guess his word is the law, but it is unfortunate to loose
any future contributions of a member as accomplished and well-regarded as
Jonathan.

Best regards,
Sieghard

Re: TP Link wireless plug and alexa app?

[Dave Mitchel]

Jen, I managed to get my TP and Alexa done after about 3 times trying. did 
you download the TP link app? that has to be done.
make sure Alexa is up and working. be patient. mine was done a long time ago 
(3 months) and I just remember that it took all my patience and then some. 
if you have some sighted help available I would recommend you get them to do 
it for you.
once set up you will like it. all the stars do need to line up with that 
huge amount of patience.

sorry but all I can give it hope.


-Original Message- 
From: Jenifer Barr

Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 10:33 AM
To: viphone
Subject: TP Link wireless plug and alexa app?

Hi all.  Has anyone successfully installed one of these plugs using
the Alexa app?  I can't figure out how to do it.  Help?

thanks, Jen.

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Re: A responsive app developer

[Dave Mitchel]

I know I sure appreciate this app and the ease of its use. 

Dave 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:04 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: A responsive app developer

I wrote the developer of the Game Day app about the standings page asking if it 
could be made easier to read with VoiceOver, but also letting him know how much 
I appreciate the app.
He responded within a day. Here is his reply which I greatly appreciate:
Hi Richard,

Thank you first and foremost for the download and kind words. I love that this 
app has made such an impact on so many users around the world. As for the 
Standings page that is actually a page that I have linked to from ESPN. 
Unfortunately I have not built a native page for this yet. I do plan on it 
sometime in the future but just have not gotten around to it yet. I'm glad you 
have found great use with the app. I have some many users that have stuck with 
it for 3-4 years now and in the last few years have learned that I have a major 
following in the blind community because of the friendly voiceover capabilities.

Thank you!

Donga Labs


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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Dave Mitchel]

I had a little trouble with the text starting over but just muddled through. 
I figure it might be the monitor doing something to make it do that.


-Original Message- 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

I am using the iPhone 7. Is there a specific resolution your monitor
needs to be set at to work properly? Also, I feel like I do a decent
job of holding the camera still but the text always stops and
restarts.

On 7/25/17, Dave Mitchel <dbmitc...@centurylink.net> wrote:
I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and 
menus


at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone are 
you


using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I used
the short text for updating my computer just last night and this morning 
in


fact.
Dave

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Re: Seeing AI Short Text Function

[Dave Mitchel]

I have had excellent response with the short text both on monitor and menus 
at a cafe. It has taken practice but worth it for sure. which phone are you 
using? I'm using the SE version and all functions work fine for me. I used 
the short text for updating my computer just last night and this morning in 
fact.

Dave

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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:51 AM
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Subject: Seeing AI Short Text Function

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Re: Seeing AI on a 5 SE

[Dave Mitchel]

yes, I have an SE and it is available. It also works when I find it. llol


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Has anyone with a 5 SE used the product feature of Seeing AI?
I need to confirm if it is available on the SE.
Thanks,
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Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

[Dave Mitchel]

got it...thanks 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get 
it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

All you have to do is Google KNFB Reader and the website is search result 1. 
Sorry I can’t send the link, but I have to leave for work now and it’s super 
easy to find, actually, I think it’s just www.knfbreader.com, if I remember 
correctly

.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get 
it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

you got a link for the knfb website? 

thanks in advance 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:08 PM

To: m...@jfw.groups.io 

Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it 
now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.

The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.

I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.

I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 8:07 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

And does it work with the Pearl camera?

Matthew

 


On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Claudia <claudiadr2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia

 

 

On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

  Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.

  Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last 
month. 

  Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000? 

  Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands? 

  If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard 
commands, I may still be interested. 

  It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular 
price seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app

   

 

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Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

[Dave Mitchel]

you got a link for the knfb website? 
thanks in advance 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
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To: m...@jfw.groups.io 
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Subject: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it 
now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

Hi,

 

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.

The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.

I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.

I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 8:07 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

And does it work with the Pearl camera?

Matthew

 


On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Claudia  wrote:

I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia

 

 

On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

  Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.

  Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last 
month. 

  Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000? 

  Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands? 

  If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard 
commands, I may still be interested. 

  It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular 
price seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app

   

 

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Re: Siri issues

[Dave Mitchel]

oh wow, I have the opposite problem with things disappearing too fast from the 
screen on a regular basis. 

From: Marie 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Siri issues

I would like to know if anyone else has this problem and if so, how do you deal 
with it.
Sometimes after using Siri to ask a question the screen will retain the Siri 
controls and I have a difficult time getting them to go away. Neither the home 
button nor locking and locking the screen works consistently. It may take 
several presses of the home button to clear the screen. It is very annoying so 
if there is a solution, I would love to know what it might be. Thanks,
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Re: Did you hear me and my SE squea?l

[Dave Mitchel]

just tell siri to read you voice mail. at least that is the way it used to 
be. I'm still not ready to upgrade to 10. congratulations


-Original Message- 
From: Nancy

Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Did you hear me and my SE squea?l

Double YIPEE!!!


My David got back from his meeting and I have now successfully called
and hung up on him and had him call and I answered and hung up on him again.


Thank you all, thank you.


Now, will someone please tell me how to retreive voice mail messages?


A smiling Nancy

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Re: IPhone SE question

[Dave Mitchel]

david's are such wonderful people. lol
keep practicing. it took me a while also.

-Original Message- 
From: Nancy

Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone SE question

Dave,


Yipee!  I just used a 2 finger double tap to answer the phone. My
husband, David, is being very patient  with me calling him and asking
him to call me so I can practice.


I have not yet had much luck hanging up with the 2 finger double tap.
I'll keep practicing.  :)

Nancy




On 9/19/2016 9:39 AM, Dave Mitchel wrote:
Nancy, to answer the call coming in just 2 finger double tap. it can be 
done anywhere on the screen. same to hang up is another 2 finger double 
tap. to make a call I just ask sirit to call the person. when done talking 
a 2 finger double tap does it.


the person you are calling does need to be in your contact list.
be patient! I have learned that is the key to using these new phones.
dave

-Original Message- From: Nancy
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPhone SE question

I just got my first cell phone without buttons...the IPhone SE.

It left the store wrapped up in an Otterbox Defender case and a tempered
glass screen protector.

At this point, I am just trying to learn how to make and answer calls.
My finger is dancing all over the screen.  If I had a adhesive Braille
Dot put on the screen so I would know where to tap, would that work?  Or
would it cause Siri and VO anguish having a dot on the screen all the
time?I just have no idea how sensitive the screen is.

Thank you so much.
Nancy




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Re: IPhone SE question

[Dave Mitchel]

Peggy, I do the same most often. lol 


From: pegkan...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IPhone SE question


Hey, Nancy if the other person hangs up the phone first you won't even have to 
worry about it.
Smiles
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my IPhone. 


On Sep 19, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Nancy <girlyscr...@comcast.net> wrote:


  Dave,


  Yipee!  I just used a 2 finger double tap to answer the phone. My husband, 
David, is being very patient  with me calling him and asking him to call me so 
I can practice.


  I have not yet had much luck hanging up with the 2 finger double tap.  I'll 
keep practicing.  :)

  Nancy




  On 9/19/2016 9:39 AM, Dave Mitchel wrote:

Nancy, to answer the call coming in just 2 finger double tap. it can be 
done anywhere on the screen. same to hang up is another 2 finger double tap. to 
make a call I just ask sirit to call the person. when done talking a 2 finger 
double tap does it.



the person you are calling does need to be in your contact list.

be patient! I have learned that is the key to using these new phones.

dave



-Original Message- From: Nancy

Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:06 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: IPhone SE question



I just got my first cell phone without buttons...the IPhone SE.



It left the store wrapped up in an Otterbox Defender case and a tempered

glass screen protector.



At this point, I am just trying to learn how to make and answer calls.

My finger is dancing all over the screen.  If I had a adhesive Braille

Dot put on the screen so I would know where to tap, would that work?  Or

would it cause Siri and VO anguish having a dot on the screen all the

time?I just have no idea how sensitive the screen is.



Thank you so much.

Nancy






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Re: IPhone SE question

[Dave Mitchel]

Nancy, to answer the call coming in just 2 finger double tap. it can be done 
anywhere on the screen. same to hang up is another 2 finger double tap. to 
make a call I just ask sirit to call the person. when done talking a 2 
finger double tap does it.


the person you are calling does need to be in your contact list.
be patient! I have learned that is the key to using these new phones.
dave

-Original Message- 
From: Nancy

Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPhone SE question

I just got my first cell phone without buttons...the IPhone SE.

It left the store wrapped up in an Otterbox Defender case and a tempered
glass screen protector.

At this point, I am just trying to learn how to make and answer calls.
My finger is dancing all over the screen.  If I had a adhesive Braille
Dot put on the screen so I would know where to tap, would that work?  Or
would it cause Siri and VO anguish having a dot on the screen all the
time?I just have no idea how sensitive the screen is.

Thank you so much.
Nancy


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Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

[Dave Mitchel]

excuse me? what do you mean by this statement? be careful what I write? 
would you explain this to myself and others on the list?
I will take into consideration that you may not understand this sort of 
thing could be perceived as a threat. so now please let me know what and how 
this was meant.



-Original Message- 
From: Mário Navarro

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]




david, be careful what you write ...
it's just a advice ...


Às 17:46 de 25/08/2016, Dave Mitchel escreveu:
you have no idea what others have done for themselves and for the blind 
community. stop your gushing and learn when it is best to keep your mouth 
shut.


Dave


-Original Message- From: Mário Navarro
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]




you are of those  only has intelligence to criticize what others do for
you ...
You should criticize less and work more for the cause of the blind and
accessibility.
instead, you are those who are always waiting for others to do for you.
NFB never done anything for you?
read this and learn.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

Às 16:46 de 25/08/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
Two years in a row, and if he has had resolutions which specifically 
called out Apple. At the first of those conventions, they were calling 
Google and accessibility champion. Why doesn't NFB spend equal time on 
other companies, especially google, which is still behind Apple and 
someways, but they call them a champion? I say as I have said before and 
should probably stop saying, follow the money. Google sponsor their 
convention as a champion.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Dacia Cole <dacia.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

thanks,

Dacia


On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I 
have

that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this is
more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the
entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all of
the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and
publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone heard.
For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed 
so

I can make up my own mind.


On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:
I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB
convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate prioritization 
to
accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass 
despite

far more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies.

Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant 
surprise

in iOS 9.3.4.

I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse who 
is an

avowed Apple basher.

I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without any 
merit
whatsoever.  It certainly causes me to have very little regard for NFB 
and

that organization’s leadership.

This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” where the
object of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming 
grounds

(usually a snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the object
meant that once you achieved the highest point all other gamers were
determined to knock you down in the belief that they would then occupy
that high point. Since it’s obvious to me that neither NFB nor the 
author

of that article would ever possibly occupy  the “high ground” on this
particular snow bank, I have to wonder just who is fostering all this
“Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder!

- Bill & Leader Dog Holland
- "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty
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Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

[Dave Mitchel]

will you give it a rest? reading the resolution does nothing for what your 
statement was aboutabout what others have done for the blind community.


ok, last post I read from you because my delete key is working well.

-Original Message- 
From: Mário Navarro

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]





Mary, my answer to you is:
read the post from Jonathan Mosen.

http://mosen.org/that-nfb-resolution/

Às 17:15 de 25/08/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:

   Mario,
Since you don't know me or anything about my history, you are way out of 
bounds with your criticism. Just because I don't fall into lockstep, and 
I'm not willing to ignore the fact that the Federation gets money from 
other vendors, whom they didn't do not criticize and resolutions, does not 
make me ungrateful for progress. I am not going to walk in lockstep behind 
anyone. I have sat in too many meetings with Federation us who simply 
would not change their opinion on anything despite data. And I have also 
sat in  other meetings with Federationists who were quite the opposite. No 
one and no organization is perfect and beyond criticism. I certainly agree 
that the quality assurance problems with Apple products as well as many 
others in the software field are serious. But the fact that the Federation 
takes money from other equally guilty, if not more guilty vendors, and 
then does not produce resolutions calling on them to up their quality 
game, well, it's rather suspicious don't you think? Never mind answering 
that, it was a rhetorical question.


Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Mário Navarro  wrote:




you are of those  only has intelligence to criticize what others do for 
you ...
You should criticize less and work more for the cause of the blind and 
accessibility.

instead, you are those who are always waiting for others to do for you.
NFB never done anything for you?
read this and learn.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

Às 16:46 de 25/08/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
Two years in a row, and if he has had resolutions which specifically 
called out Apple. At the first of those conventions, they were calling 
Google and accessibility champion. Why doesn't NFB spend equal time on 
other companies, especially google, which is still behind Apple and 
someways, but they call them a champion? I say as I have said before and 
should probably stop saying, follow the money. Google sponsor their 
convention as a champion.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Dacia Cole  wrote:

Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

thanks,

Dacia


On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I 
have
that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this 
is

more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the
entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all 
of

the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and
publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone heard.
For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed 
so

I can make up my own mind.


On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:
I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB
convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate 
prioritization to
accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass 
despite

far more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies.

Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant 
surprise

in iOS 9.3.4.

I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse who 
is an

avowed Apple basher.

I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without any 
merit
whatsoever.  It certainly causes me to have very little regard for 
NFB and

that organization’s leadership.

This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” where 
the
object of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming 
grounds
(usually a snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the 
object

meant that once you achieved the highest point all other gamers were
determined to knock you down in the belief that they would then 
occupy
that high point. Since it’s obvious to me that neither NFB nor the 
author

of that article would ever possibly occupy  the “high ground” on this
particular snow bank, I have to wonder just who is fostering all this
“Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder!

- Bill & Leader Dog Holland
- "The problem with people who have no vices is 

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

[Dave Mitchel]

you have no idea what others have done for themselves and for the blind 
community. stop your gushing and learn when it is best to keep your mouth 
shut.


Dave


-Original Message- 
From: Mário Navarro

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]




you are of those  only has intelligence to criticize what others do for
you ...
You should criticize less and work more for the cause of the blind and
accessibility.
instead, you are those who are always waiting for others to do for you.
NFB never done anything for you?
read this and learn.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

Às 16:46 de 25/08/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
Two years in a row, and if he has had resolutions which specifically 
called out Apple. At the first of those conventions, they were calling 
Google and accessibility champion. Why doesn't NFB spend equal time on 
other companies, especially google, which is still behind Apple and 
someways, but they call them a champion? I say as I have said before and 
should probably stop saying, follow the money. Google sponsor their 
convention as a champion.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Dacia Cole  wrote:

Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

thanks,

Dacia


On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I have
that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this is
more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the
entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all of
the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and
publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone heard.
For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed so
I can make up my own mind.


On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:
I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB
convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate prioritization 
to

accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass despite
far more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies.

Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant 
surprise

in iOS 9.3.4.

I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse who is 
an

avowed Apple basher.

I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without any 
merit
whatsoever.  It certainly causes me to have very little regard for NFB 
and

that organization’s leadership.

This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” where the
object of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming grounds
(usually a snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the object
meant that once you achieved the highest point all other gamers were
determined to knock you down in the belief that they would then occupy
that high point. Since it’s obvious to me that neither NFB nor the 
author

of that article would ever possibly occupy  the “high ground” on this
particular snow bank, I have to wonder just who is fostering all this
“Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder!

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Re: Nearby Explorer for IOS is now in the US App Store

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'm not sure that is worth another $50

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The main thing it has that blindsquare doesn't is turn by turn
directions, also the maps are stored on your device if that is
important to you.
Original message:
what features does it have Blind square does not have? don’t just say it, 
tell us what these features are!

From: Feliciano Godoy 
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This version of Nearby explore is not free on Android. This app also has 
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On Aug 18, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay > wrote:





79$! Its free in android! Who will pay that much money for it when
blind square is available at much cheaper price?


On 8/19/16, Jim Fettgather > wrote:




This app from American Printing House, which has been available for a




few years for Android devices, is now available on the IOS App Store




for $79.




Its set of features looks impressive, and if nothing else, is




definitely worth locating in the app store and reading the




description.




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Re: Nearby Explorer for IOS is now in the US App Store

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what features does it have Blind square does not have? don’t just say it, tell 
us what these features are! 

From: Feliciano Godoy 
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This version of Nearby explore is not free on Android. This app also has 
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On Aug 18, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:


  79$! Its free in android! Who will pay that much money for it when
  blind square is available at much cheaper price?

  On 8/19/16, Jim Fettgather  wrote:

This app from American Printing House, which has been available for a

few years for Android devices, is now available on the IOS App Store

for $79.

Its set of features looks impressive, and if nothing else, is

definitely worth locating in the app store and reading the

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Re: Blindsquare and Google Maps

[Dave Mitchel]

Eleanore, how do I accomplish this? I am using whatever it comes up with, 
which does appear to be good in my remote area. just wondering in case I 
need to double check anything.

Dave


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 2:47 PM
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you can use blind Square in association with Google maps or in association 
with Apple maps.



On 21 Jul 2016, at 22:45, Chip Orange  wrote:

I recently purchased Blind Square and am very disappointed.  It uses "open 
source" map data from Open Street Maps, and is quite inaccurate in my 
area.  When I wrote to them asking for some way to have a feature where we 
could offer map data corrections, or to ask if they could use Google Map 
data, they told me they only updated their map data once a year, so giving 
us a feature to offer map data corrections would still leave us with map 
problems for a long time, so wasn't worth it.
They were unapologetic and unconcerned about the quality of the map data 
as far as I could tell.


Blind Square, as far as this newbie can tell, does not offer you 
directions either; it relies on your use of Apple maps or Google maps.


So I also have to wonder what exactly I am getting besides street names 
which are wrong or missing, and no way to correct them, and map updates 
only once a year??? Really??? I had just assumed they would always be 
using the most up to date data just like Google maps, so this was a huge 
disappointment to me.


Chip

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Hi All,

I have mostly been using Google Maps to get walking directions.

Can anyone tell me what advantages I would gain if I purchase Blindsquare 
to use in conjunction with Google Maps as opposed to using Google Maps by 
itself?  I know Blindsquare has been discussed quite a lot on the list, 
but I am having trouble figuring out what I would gain by using it along 
with Google Maps or Apple Maps.  Sorry if I am just being dense.


We will be traveling to the U.K. soon, and we are not at all familiar with 
the areas we will be visiting, so I am trying to decide if it might be 
worth purchasing this app.


Thanks for any thoughts on this.

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Re: HI Siri - Does it drain battery

[Dave Mitchel]

you have an SE I take it, and yes, it does drain the battery some.
I have not found it to make much difference however and I choose to leave 
mine on. I'm also lazy. lol



-Original Message- 
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No, my phone is not plugged into anything, and all I have to do is say "hi 
Siri."


JR

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hi,

This feature I beleave can only be activated when plugged into power.  so, 
it really won't drain battery.

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Subject: HI Siri - Does it drain battery



HI all,

Does the "Hi Siri" feature on newer iPhones drain the battery? I'm
assuming the microphone is always on or listening and this uses
battery power, is this true?

JR


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Re: T mobile Tuesdays

[Dave Mitchel]

sounds like spam to me. I use T-mobile and received nothing.

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I have seen several articles in the tech press this morning talking about 
the latest publicity stunt from T-Mobile, this one being offers of various 
free goodies to subscribers. You need an app called T mobile Tuesdays. One 
article I saw even had an App Store link. But when I tried the link, it took 
me exactly know where. So I tried searching in the app store myself. Same 
thing, no results. Has anyone actually seeing this T mobile Tuesdays app? It 
is supposed to be both in the app store and the Google play store for 
android users.

Mary


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Re: iPhone S E charging and battery life

[Dave Mitchel]

my SE takes less time and holds a much better charge than my 5 does. I would 
first try another plug in the wall or a new charger. that is way too much 
time for that to take to charge up. I use my SE for 2 days usually on a full 
charge.



-Original Message- 
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Sent from my iPhone hi all, I got a new iPhone S E yesterday. It took a very 
long time to charge, so I was wondering has anyone else had this problem. 
When I plugged it in last night it was 23% charged. When I woke up this 
morning, after using it for a while, it was 37% charged. It took quite a 
while to get to 100%. I also was  was wondering about the battery life of 
the phone. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. I really do love this 
phone. I would recommend it to anyone who wants to upgrade. It is much 
cheaper than the iPhone 6 series.

God bless,
Wren Langley Langley

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Re: App that will show current location with name of town

[Dave Mitchel]

I just ask Ciri where I am.
she states current address and town.

just say: Ciri, where am I?

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Have you looked at the native Maps app, or perhaps Google Maps? Also,
I think you can simply say, "Location" to Siri and get some of that
info too. Depending on what you're looking for and what your goal is,
these may meet your needs. There are probably apps which say the
location along with the city if you just want that. Also, consider
things like BlindSquare which can tell you that along with lots of
other information.

Wayne

On 5/10/16, Fanus  wrote:

Hello list
I am looking for an app which will show my current location but it must 
also

tell the name of the town or city.
Regards
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new SE and setting up reading?

[Dave Mitchel]

I have my SE all set up and learning as I go, but I cannot figure out how to 
make VO read the messages as they come in like it does on my 5. 
When things are read it reads slower than I have Ciri set to read and there is 
no inflection whatsoever. it is so robotic it’s  driven me crazy in a very 
short period of time. ok, I was well on my way there, but still I would like 
some inflection when she is reading. when she reads me back what I have written 
there is also no inflection at that time.
Thanks for any help. 

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New phone-SE? queries

[Dave Mitchel]

I received my new SE today and I ‘m wondering if I can turn the phone on, do 
the triple click home key for Voice over and do the rest of the set up myself? 
I see nothing, so before I even turn it on I would like to know if this is 
possible? if not I will wait for sighted help. 
Thanks much. 
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Re: iPhone SE

[Dave Mitchel]

mine is supposed to be here tomorrow so I'll let you know! unless someone 
else answers before! lol


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From: Mary Otten

Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:16 PM
To: VIPhone 'Carol Pearson' via
Subject: iPhone SE

Is there anyone on list who has a new iPhone SE? I'm curious about the 
speaker, how it compares with the one on the 5S. I wonder if it is the same. 
I'm guessing yes, but I am still curious.

Mary


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Re: Football game

[Dave Mitchel]

I know Jim Kitchen had a baseball game and I hear there is a place you can 
still get his games. 


From: Regina Alvarado 
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Football game


I would like an American football game too, but does any"one know if there is a 
baseball game accessible or a hockey game?


reggie & Lex

On Mar 4, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:


Hi.

When you mention Football, I'm guessing you mean American Football, versus 
Soccer.  We in the states have to call our sport the same thing that the rest 
of the world calls it, so I'm just avoiding confusion.  I'd also like an 
American Football game myself.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Re: Update Question

[Dave Mitchel]

what if I do not want to sign into I-cloud? 
I also have forgotten my password because I never use the cloud or apps store 
and don’t want to. 
I cannot get my phone working since the update and have grown frustrated. 


From: Chris Smart 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Update Question

it's a good reminder that swiping isn't the be all and end all. Sometimes you 
have to explore!

At 08:53 PM 9/16/2015, you wrote:

  Hi John And All Who answered me!  I was able to get my update done, but 
unfortunately, my sighted husband discovered the Download and Install button 
and invoked it for me.  When we did it, I hadn't heard back from anyone yet.  
Now I wish I had waited so that I could have experienced this for myself!  What 
an odd way for the button to react when we are all so used to swipiing around 
the screen!  I wonder what the reason for designing the update screen in this 
way could possibly be? Hopefully next time I'll remember this and know exactly 
what to do!Again, thanks so much for all the help!  This list is awesome!

  Desi

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Sep 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
wrote:
  > 
  > It's below the update information. You can't swipe to get to it. You
  > need to touch around. It's toward the right edge but near the center
  > of the screen.
  > 
  >> On 9/16/15, Destene Noller  wrote:
  >> Hi,
  >> 
  >> There doesn't seem to be a download and install button at least that
  >> VoiceOver is reading.  I only have my phone, so updating through iTunes
  >> isn't possible.
  >> 
  >> Desi
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >> 
  >>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, christopher hallsworth
  >>>  wrote:
  >>> 
  >>> Try touching the "download and install" button. Or try updating via
  >>> iTunes.
  >>> Chris
   On 16 Sep 2015, at 20:40, Destene Noller 
   wrote:
   
   Hi Everyone,
   
   My husband just finished updating his iPad and now is updating his phone.
   Each time I go into Settings under Software Update, iOS 9 comes up, but
   it says it is dimmed.  Is this simply because the servers are too busy?
   Thanks!
   
   Desi
   
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Re: Update Question

[Dave Mitchel]

ok, I got it all working back to pretty much normal. 
I did not have to use my I-cloud password but I am keeping this for the 
website. 
I forget now where it was stuck and what I did to get it working, but I do 
thank you very much for the reply. 


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Update Question

Hi Dave,

 

Your iCloud password is your Apple Id password and you definitely will need it 
to use your phone.

You can reset it at http://AppleID.apple.com.

When you say “I can’t get my phone working since the update” can you explain 
further? Does it mean Voiceover is working and you are at the point of the 
initial setup screen where it asks you to sign into iCloud? If so then you will 
absolutely have to find a way to reset your Apple Id password otherwise you 
won’t get anywhere.

You say you don’t use iCloud or the app store. Do you not backup your phone to 
iCloud or have you never bought an app even if it was a free one?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Mitchel
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update Question

 

what if I do not want to sign into I-cloud? 

I also have forgotten my password because I never use the cloud or apps store 
and don’t want to. 

I cannot get my phone working since the update and have grown frustrated. 

 

 

From: Chris Smart 

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:38 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Update Question

 

it's a good reminder that swiping isn't the be all and end all. Sometimes you 
have to explore!

At 08:53 PM 9/16/2015, you wrote:



  Hi John And All Who answered me!  I was able to get my update done, but 
unfortunately, my sighted husband discovered the Download and Install button 
and invoked it for me.  When we did it, I hadn't heard back from anyone yet.  
Now I wish I had waited so that I could have experienced this for myself!  What 
an odd way for the button to react when we are all so used to swipiing around 
the screen!  I wonder what the reason for designing the update screen in this 
way could possibly be? Hopefully next time I'll remember this and know exactly 
what to do!Again, thanks so much for all the help!  This list is awesome!

  Desi

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Sep 16, 2015, at 3:16 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
  > 
  > It's below the update information. You can't swipe to get to it. You
  > need to touch around. It's toward the right edge but near the center
  > of the screen.
  > 
  >> On 9/16/15, Destene Noller <destene.nol...@icloud.com> wrote:
  >> Hi,
  >> 
  >> There doesn't seem to be a download and install button at least that
  >> VoiceOver is reading.  I only have my phone, so updating through iTunes
  >> isn't possible.
  >> 
  >> Desi
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >> 
  >>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, christopher hallsworth
  >>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
  >>> 
  >>> Try touching the "download and install" button. Or try updating via
  >>> iTunes.
  >>> Chris
  >>>> On 16 Sep 2015, at 20:40, Destene Noller <destene.nol...@icloud.com>
  >>>> wrote:
  >>>> 
  >>>> Hi Everyone,
  >>>> 
  >>>> My husband just finished updating his iPad and now is updating his phone.
  >>>> Each time I go into Settings under Software Update, iOS 9 comes up, but
  >>>> it says it is dimmed.  Is this simply because the servers are too busy?
  >>>> Thanks!
  >>>> 
  >>>> Desi
  >>>> 
  >>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Siri seems to have dementia

[Dave Mitchel]

I had the same results. did you ask: at what latitude...that is how I received 
the results the first time. 

I think if  person asks, what is the latitude...it is asked improperly. 
oh well, semantics! lol 

From: SSEric 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Siri seems to have dementia

Ijust asked for the latitudes of Madison, Wisconsin; Columbus, Ohio and 
Savannah, Georgia. All three were reported on the first try.

 

 

 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri seems to have dementia

 

What should I be looking for when searching for the Google app.  Last time I 
had anything but search on my phone it did not work.  That was, however 
probably in 2012, and I probably loaded it from the hospital while visiting and 
did not pay as much attention as it needed.  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri seems to have dementia

 

Neal,

 

I find Siri unpredictable and inconsistent and in my opinion, if you want to 
discourage folks from using a technological advancement, that's the way to do 
it. I asked the Google app your Madison latitude question and got an immediate 
answer.

 

I pretty much depend on Google if I need information and use Siri to do things 
like initiate phone calls to contacts or to open apps. She's pretty consistent 
with those sort of things.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri seems to have dementia

 

Hi all, I wonder if any of you have had the following problem. I have 
experienced a lot of situations where I will ask Siri a question and she will 
say that she doesn’t understand the question. It’s more specific than that. 
Here is an example.

I ask Siri, “What is the latitude of Madison Wisconsin?”

Siri says, “I don’t understand the latitude of Madison Wisconsin.” So she knows 
what I am asking, that is not where the breakdown occurs. I asked her this 
yesterday and twice she gave me the same answer using the exact same words I 
used in the question. On the third attempt, she gave me the answer.

 

So, what goes here. Is she becoming brain dead? Is three times the charm? This 
has also happened on other questions lately. She repeats the question so I know 
she understands and several attempts later, she will give me the answer. I’ll 
likely report this to Apple, but I wondered if anyone else had seen this 
problem.

 

Neal

 

 

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Re: Help confirm bug with siri in edit fields

[Dave Mitchel]

I just tried tried tis and had no problem with Ciri telling me the weather. 
it was an edit field for phone



-Original Message- 
From: Ioana Gandrabur

Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help confirm bug with siri in edit fields

More detail about the bug I am experiencing. Basically Siri does not speak 
the answer to my prompt if I am in an edit field when I activate Siri.




Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 28, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:

Can anyone confirm that, if you're in an edit field with cursor mode 
activated, it's impossible to use Siri? I don't mean dictation.


Just curious if it's me or an other apple bug.

Best,


Ioana




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Re: Help confirm bug with siri in edit fields

[Dave Mitchel]

ok, I tried it in a text message and you are absolutely correct. Ciri would 
not even stay connected whatsoever!

hmm, I hope others try also.


-Original Message- 
From: Ioana Gandrabur

Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help confirm bug with siri in edit fields

It works there. But in any other text field where you have a keyboard 
showing on the screen it doesn't for me. Thanks for trying.




Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 28, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote:

I just tried tried tis and had no problem with Ciri telling me the 
weather. it was an edit field for phone



-Original Message- From: Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help confirm bug with siri in edit fields

More detail about the bug I am experiencing. Basically Siri does not speak 
the answer to my prompt if I am in an edit field when I activate Siri.




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On Feb 28, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Can anyone confirm that, if you're in an edit field with cursor mode 
activated, it's impossible to use Siri? I don't mean dictation.


Just curious if it's me or an other apple bug.

Best,


Ioana




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Re: calls that cut out

[Dave Mitchel]

yeah, and after a few seconds the call picks back up and is fine?
I think it might happen for those of us who have so much IQ it interrupts 
the phone signal! lol


-Original Message- 
From: Kerri G

Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:40 PM
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Subject: Re: calls that cut out

wow, the calls don’t drop, they just get choppy and the more I think on it, 
the issue does ease for a while but then, like the bad any is back.

On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote:

I go through the same thing here in my house. for a few days it seems 
calls get interrupted like the same way you described, then suddenly all 
is well for another month or so.
I am on T-mobile and I have not been able to figure out what is happening. 
I too have 3 bars s even when a call gets what seems to be dropped.


-Original Message- From: Kerri G
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:06 PM
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Subject: Re: calls that cut out

No, but will try anything at this point because the only thing left to do 
if this doesn’t work is switch carriers and the only available one is 
Rogers wireless.

On Feb 16, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Kerri,

Have you tried to make calls using the Apple Earpods and then ask the 
other party if your calls are cutting out.


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Subject: calls that cut out

Hi, all. I really don’t know if anyone can advise her but every time I 
call someone on my iPhone 5S, people tell me I am breaking up. I’ve 
called my career who sent me to Apple who ran a diagnostic test on the 
pone and sated all was well.  I have 3 of 5 signal strength bars, I have 
turned the phone off and then back on again several times, all to no 
avail. What else can be done? thanks.


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Re: calls that cut out

[Dave Mitchel]

I go through the same thing here in my house. for a few days it seems calls 
get interrupted like the same way you described, then suddenly all is well 
for another month or so.
I am on T-mobile and I have not been able to figure out what is happening. I 
too have 3 bars s even when a call gets what seems to be dropped.


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Subject: Re: calls that cut out

No, but will try anything at this point because the only thing left to do if 
this doesn’t work is switch carriers and the only available one is Rogers 
wireless.

On Feb 16, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Kerri,

Have you tried to make calls using the Apple Earpods and then ask the 
other party if your calls are cutting out.


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Subject: calls that cut out

Hi, all. I really don’t know if anyone can advise her but every time I 
call someone on my iPhone 5S, people tell me I am breaking up. I’ve called 
my career who sent me to Apple who ran a diagnostic test on the pone and 
sated all was well.  I have 3 of 5 signal strength bars, I have turned the 
phone off and then back on again several times, all to no avail. What else 
can be done? thanks.


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Re: calls that cut out

[Dave Mitchel]

Mine has done this with both an Otter box and the smaller flexible case from 
Apple.


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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: calls that cut out

Do you folks know where the antennas are in the 5S I wonder if the case I 
have is covering at least one of them
On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:57 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:


Maybe3 you're moving your face away from your phone, just a little, or the 
phone from your face.


Carol P

- Original Message - From: Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:05 AM
Subject: calls that cut out


Hi, all. I really don’t know if anyone can advise her but every time I 
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my career who sent me to Apple who ran a diagnostic test on the pone and 
sated all was well.  I have 3 of 5 signal strength bars, I have turned the 
phone off and then back on again several times, all to no avail. What else 
can be done? thanks.


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Re: calls that cut out

[Dave Mitchel]

yes, it does. at least mine does. tested all these things 

From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: calls that cut out

The question, though, is if it would do the same thing with no case at all.

  On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote:

  Mine has done this with both an Otter box and the smaller flexible case from 
Apple.

  -Original Message- From: Kerri G
  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:10 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: calls that cut out

  Do you folks know where the antennas are in the 5S I wonder if the case I 
have is covering at least one of them

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Maybe3 you're moving your face away from your phone, just a little, or the 
phone from your face.

Carol P

- Original Message - From: Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:05 AM
Subject: calls that cut out


Hi, all. I really don’t know if anyone can advise her but every time I call 
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Re: Wireless Doorbell

[Dave Mitchel]

do you know if these will be accessible by Ciri? that would be nice with an 
armful



-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wireless Doorbell

WiFi connected door locks with built-in camera which can be unlocked 
remotely with your iPhone or also when you are close have been shown off at 
CES and will most likely hit the market this year.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Terrie Arnold

Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Doorbell

ok  so  someone  needs  to get  ahold  of  Mike  May  , as  he  is  going to 
be at  the  big  tech  show  in  Los Vegus , as  he  may  come  across  this 
thing  this  would  be  way  cool

Terrie

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 6, 2015, at 11:25 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

Simpler than this, voice coms would do as you could just ask!
But you couldn't then deny you were in if it was  the JW's or someone you
didn't want to see.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Wireless Doorbell


I have been hunting for a facial recognition app that would let me mount a
web cam or something like it and then my iphone would be able to tell me 
who

is at the door if I had previously identified my family and friends.

Is this perhaps what the originator of this thread was thinking of?


Does such a thing exist?  I have found lots of apps that will unlock your
phone or even certain apps using facial recognition technology but nothing
like what I am looking for.

Dan Beaver

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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wireless Doorbell

What exactly would be the benefit of a WiFi enabled door bell? Are you
thinking of something which would you let you unlock your door with your
iPhone? When I think of a door bell I think of a very simple device which
has a button and a bell/ringer. A person comes to your door, pushes the
button and the bell dings or dongs or rings or whatever so you know 
somebody

is at your door. Such devices traditionally were wired, but many wireless
options are out there now which have a button that has a battery in it and
it sends the signal to the bell/ringer wirelessly. This does, however, not
require WiFi connectivity, it's just like a remote where a signal is
transmitted by one device and received by another.


Regards,
Sieghard
device

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Terrie Arnold
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wireless Doorbell

hey  they  do  have  a bluetooth  deadbolt   for  the  iphone  that  will
unlock  your dead bolt . it  goes  on the  inside  of  your  door  over 
the
twist  knob , I think  they  run  $150  to 250  , one  of them  is 
Kwickset

.
Terrie

Sent from my iPhone


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wrote:

Wondering if anyone on the list has ever used a WIFI enabled doorbell
that can be accessed via the IPhone? Any information would be greatly
appreciated.

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than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway

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Re: Cool discovery for hey Siri feature

[Dave Mitchel]

oh wow! I just tried this and it works great. this will be handy for a lot 
of things.

thank you for the heads up!

-Original Message- 
From: Ioana Gandrabur

Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 12:18 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Cool discovery for hey Siri feature

Hi all,
Just found a cool way to activate hey Siri even when not plugged in to AC 
power. If the Siri screen is active, I mean the one with listen at the 
bottom, you can issue a Siri prompt with hey Siri' voice command even if 
your device is not plugged in.
May come in handy at times so thought I'd share in case others did not know 
about this like me.


Best,

Ioana

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Re: Trouble logging in to the bard site

[Dave Mitchel]

last I heard site wa was down for repairs. I got in for a few yesterday 
also, but then got a message it was down.

I'm going to try this afternoon.


-Original Message- 
From: Lori Dent

Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 10:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Trouble logging in to the bard site

Hi all,

Last night  I was having problems logging in to the main bard site from my
computer. So I changed my password to a new one and I was able to
successfully log in and download books  to my computer.

Today, I went to the main bard site from my computer  and it  won't let me
log in with the new password I used last night.

Also as of today I can't log in on the moble bard app on my phone either. I
also last night successfully chaged  my old pass word to a new one but like
I've said I can't log in to the moble bard app either.

So I have 2 questions to ask.
1. Has anyone else besides myself been having any problems with logging in
to the main bard web site or loging in to the moble bard web site?
2. Can you use the same password and email adress  to log in at the main
bard  website and on the moble bard app? Any help and suggestions will be
much appreciated. Thanks.

Lori and the Gipper

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Re: Weather Notification Temperature Inconsistencies

[Dave Mitchel]

is perhaps one set to wind chill temperature? 


From: Sherry Wells 
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 6:28 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Weather  Notification Temperature Inconsistencies

Hi all,

I have my location turned on.  When I check the current temperature in the 
weather app that came on the phone I will get a totally different temp than 
that reported when I check the weather blurb on the notification screen.  Last 
night the weather app said it was minus 2  on the notification screen the temp 
was 7.  I would have guessed the notification center would use the weather app 
to get the temp but apparently not.  This has not only happened when it has 
been extremely cold.  Does anyone know an explanation for this difference  
which one should I rely on? 

Thanks,
Sherry
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Re: Simply ask SIRI, was: AN INDEPENDENT PLUG FOR APPLEVIS

[Dave Mitchel]

you can also ask her how many days have elapsed since a specific date. 


From: Cheryl Homiak 
Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2015 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Simply ask SIRI, was: AN INDEPENDENT PLUG FOR APPLEVIS

Oh this is so cool! I just asked about a date several years in the past that I 
wanted to check and siri gave me the day of the week with no problem. I guess 
it shouldn't be any surprise that siri can do this but i'd just never thought 
to try it before! Thanks! 


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On Jan 1, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Carol,

Another very easy way to find out what weekday a particular date is to simply 
ask SIRI. I use this a lot for my business when I have to pay invoices and 
maybe I have an invoice which is due on April 7 and I want to know if this is a 
weekend or not. So, I simply invoke SIRI and ask “What day is April 7”. I just 
did this as I am typing the message and SIRI replied “It’s Tuesday, April 7, 
2015”.

If you are asking about a date which is in the future, but in the same year, 
you don’t have to include the year when you ask. E.g. as it is January 1 today, 
I can ask anything up to December 31, 2015 simply by asking “What date is July 
3” or what date is October 25” without including “2015”. If I want to know what 
day Christmas 1988 was, I would then have to include the year and ask “What day 
was December 25, 1988” and the same applies if the date is beyond 2015.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AN INDEPENDENT PLUG FOR APPLEVIS
 
Hi all,
 
I just want to tell everyone, in case we have newcomers, how very helpful I'm 
finding both this list and also, for more clarification so often, the resources 
of AppleVis with so many helpful useful and informative podcasts.
 
I have listened to a number of podcasts now and just today picked up an app 
called DatePicker which is nice and simple and does just what I need it to do 
right now, that is, to tell me what day of the week a particular date falls!  
Thanks so much for this little gem.  I hope others find it useful also.  I 
found it easily enough in the UK Store and there were only three listed.  It 
was the first!
 
For those additional resources, go to
http://www.applevis.com/
 
Carol P
 
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Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

[Dave Mitchel]

Merv! if you turn the reading rate up high enough it will sound like Chinese! 
just a thought! lol, 
Dave 

From: Merv Keck 
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking 
KNFB reader?

Hi,

This is a timely topic I have had to deal with since making the transition from 
a high partial to a very low vision almost totally blind individual between 
2007 and present. My iPhone 5S has become one of my favorite tools along with 
my I D Mate Quest. At first my rather large and over-inflated sense of pride 
hated the idea of needing help with menus at a restaurant as I was always the 
one who read the entire menu for all the other “blind” people at the table, 
laughs! Now I either depend on AllMenus or let the sighted dude tell me or look 
it up online whichever is faster or most efficient or most interesting or 
entertaining or a combination of the above. I am still saving for the KNFB 
Reader but I do know someone who has it and it does drive me absolutely batty 
when in a public place and 30 minutes later I can still hear 600 words per hour 
gibberish going on and everyone else including me has already moved on to 
something else a half hour ago. 

On another list, not related to phones, we were discussing the idea that 
sometimes we as blind people need to have more than one tool in the toolbox. 
For example AllMenus, KNFB Reader, someone mentioned 4Square which I don’t use 
but that is great if someone uses that. And I am sure there are others. Also 
while physically there some places have Braille menus. I like to look up the 
Menus online when possible and of course there are always specials that day 
they will tell you about if you ask. 

Here’s a silly question? Does the KNFB reader read Chinese? Oh never mind most 
of those menus are in English anyway, laughing Lots!

Merv

 

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Re: another example of Apple programmers sense of humor with Siri

[Dave Mitchel]

I got that from her the other day and about spit my teeth out laughing! 
we never know what to expect from her do we?

From: Sherry Wells 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: another example of Apple programmers sense of humor with Siri

I wasn’t even trying for humor  got a great response.  I had dictated a text 
message through Siri  cancelled it as I had messed it up.  Generally when I do 
this Siri just says ok, let me know if I can do anything else or something like 
that.  This time when I said cancel she said okie dokie artichokie.  What a 
pleasant  delightful surprise!  You gotta love those developers who came up 
with this stuff.

Sherry 

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Re: is 8.1.1 has been released

[Dave Mitchel]

Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those 
fixed and more response


-Original Message- 
From: Eden Kizer

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released

I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when
Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying.

Eden
On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by 
AppleVis:

1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of
VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial
release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to
resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things
such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon
Mobile app.
  2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all
commands/responses appear to be spoken fully.
  3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification
is received, even when the device is locked.
  4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone 
calls.

  5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback
when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call.
  6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen
from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking.
  7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details
screen of message threads that contain attachments.

It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S
and the older iPads.

Wayne

On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Subject says it, just use the usual precautions:



1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes

2. Make sure all apps are updated

3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone 
by

turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will
also reboot your phone.





Happy updating,

Sieghard



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Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released

[Dave Mitchel]

Eden, did you get the instructions which were posted earlier? if not:
settings,
general,
update
on update double tap and then accept! takes just a few seconds.
ok, maybe minutes! lol

-Original Message- 
From: Eden Kizer

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released

so if i avoid these steps, how exactly do I update my phone is it like
updating apps, and how do I find said update?

eden
On 11/17/2014 1:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:

I have never closed apps or reset my network. I feel that it's a waste
of time and not proven to be of value. It is a recommendation that is
made by someone who does a podcast which some of us listen to. I am
comfortable in saying that you will be okay avoiding these steps.

On 11/17/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote:

Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this
to want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about
this stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted.

eden
On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote:

In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an
update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as 
well

as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad
wifi+cellular.


On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote:
What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me
know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those
fixes.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
wrote:

For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by
AppleVis:
1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of
VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the 
initial

release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to
resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things
such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon
Mobile app.
2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all
commands/responses appear to be spoken fully.
3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification
is received, even when the device is locked.
4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone
calls.
5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback
when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call.
6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen
from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking.
7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the Details
screen of message threads that contain attachments.

It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S
and the older iPads.

Wayne


On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Subject says it, just use the usual precautions:



1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes

2. Make sure all apps are updated

3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your
phone by
turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which
will
also reboot your phone.





Happy updating,

Sieghard



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Re: to upgrade my iPhone 5 to IOS8.1 or not

[Dave Mitchel]

I use a 5C and even with the new upgrade I would have never upgraded had I 
known what was going to happen.

since upgrading my phone:
does not read incoming messages on lock screen,
I cannot rely on Ciri to send messages and need to check to see sshe has,
I cannot reply comfortably to a message if it does decide to read it to me 
on lock screen and several more things  I cannot think of at this time. I 
liked the way 7.**.** whatever it was I was using and if I could I would go 
back to it in a heartbeat. I do enjoy the audio messaging and that in all 
reality is the only thing I like about the upgrade.



-Original Message- 
From: Casey

Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to upgrade my iPhone 5 to IOS8.1 or not

Hi okay I have an i Phone 5 and I am currently running IOS 7.12 and now
even if IS 8.1 is buggy.
Is it okay to upgrade to 8.1 and what Ll will I be gaining if I upgrade
from 7.12 to 8.1?


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Re: 8.1 Update

[Dave Mitchel]

I have found that if I unlock the screen it works for me much better. 
also when it says ok to send, and then never makes the sound, if I search the 
screen I see the send button and double tap that and it will send. true, not 
like 7.001 or whatever the prior one was, but a work-around. 


From: Gary Petraccaro 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: 8.1 Update

Same as with 8.  I pick up the phone and locked screen is on.  I push the home 
button and get the two medium pitch beeps.  I say, Send a message to 
so-and-so.  Possibility 1, it says What do you want to say, and gives the 
high-pitched beeps.  I say a message with or with punctuation.  It says ok and 
nothing else.  I don't know if the message is sent or not.
Possibility 2, I start to say a message and get two low-pitched beeps and have 
to start all over again.
Possibility 3, I say the message, it repeats it back and asks whether I want to 
send.  I say Send it  or yes, and the send message sound plays.
These are in order of their likelihood.

Good news of sorts: I actually got to ask Siri the Woodchuck question and after 
an initially interrupted message, it repeated the whole response after a couple 
of seconds.  So that's some progress at least on one front.
Btw, thanks for whatever suggestions you have to offer.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:08 PM
  Subject: Re: 8.1 Update

  Can you elaborate? I'm having no problems texting, and I've not heard of 
anyone else having such problems either. Maybe we can help you figure out 
what's going on.

On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote:

I downloaded 8.1.  It went very quickly and just as quickly I found it a 
bust when trying to send text messages.  Oh well ...

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Re: Letting App store know about my 6

[Dave Mitchel]

I went through this sort of thing with Safeway. it ended up being I was putting 
a space at the end of my phone number. 
I have to make sure to remember no spaces before or after addresses and numbers 
and such things. 
I too am alone with no sighted help and it can be real fun at times! lol! 


From: Rose Combs 
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Letting App store know about my 6

Yesterday I wanted to get some of the voices for Voice Dream.  Since my phone 
is not recognized it wanted me to fill out a form, I tried and tried and it 
always came back to my zip code, which was correct, at least the first five 
numbers were correct.  No matter how many times I tried to fill in the required 
information, and I tried about 10 times in the end it would hang on that zip 
code or my phone number.  I must be missing something but I don’t seem to find 
it.  I don’t have even partially sighted help now, so I have no clue.  My 
computer goes in but this would be considered an in-app purchase.  I know I 
have done this before but cannot seem to do so now, did something change?  Am I 
just being a difficult old lady? 

 

 

roseco...@q.com

 

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Re: can someone please explain how to set up family sharing, and what it does?

[Dave Mitchel]

Alan, do you know if family has to be in same residence or on same plan?


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli

Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: can someone please explain how to set up family sharing, and 
what it does?


One nice advantage is you can buy 1 app and share it with family members.
No need to buy it 20 times one for each family member.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: can someone please explain how to set up family sharing, and
what it does?


I chose to leave it disabled until I knew if I wanted it and what the
implications were.

It's as good an option as any!

R.
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Judd chrischas0...@charter.net

To: viphone mailing list viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:01 PM
Subject: can someone please explain how to set up family sharing, and what
it does?


I just upgraded to IOS 8.  Can someone please explain what is family
sharing, and how does it work?
Thanks for any help,
Chris

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Re: Speak messages on locked screen?

[Dave Mitchel]

that was done, and had never been changed. it was the update that made it 
different.


-Original Message- 
From: David Chittenden

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speak messages on locked screen?

Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, and switch on speak 
notifications.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Sep 2014, at 13:58, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you, you are not special, as I am having the problem 
to, and I think the notifications not being spoken in the lock screen but 
hearing the notification sound is one of the many many many bugs with VO 
in IOS8.

On Sep 24, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Anna Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I O S 8.  I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my screen 
locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7.  In 
Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but it 
doesn't speak when the screen is locked.  Is this true for everyone, or 
am I just special???


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Re: Speak messages on locked screen?

[Dave Mitchel]

I wish it were that simple, but it was still in the on position. just does 
not work as it did in 7.1. it randomly selects which texts it will speak and 
is not always the same. I thought for a while it was those in my contact 
list only, but as I said, it is random. I could deal with that, but it 
speaks only about 1 out of 8 .



-Original Message- 
From: David Chittenden

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speak messages on locked screen?

Yes, iOS 8 switched it off.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Sep 2014, at 22:02, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote:

that was done, and had never been changed. it was the update that made it 
different.


-Original Message- From: David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speak messages on locked screen?

Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, and switch on speak 
notifications.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Sep 2014, at 13:58, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you, you are not special, as I am having the problem 
to, and I think the notifications not being spoken in the lock screen but 
hearing the notification sound is one of the many many many bugs with VO 
in IOS8.

On Sep 24, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Anna Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I O S 8.  I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my screen 
locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7.  In 
Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but it 
doesn't speak when the screen is locked.  Is this true for everyone, or 
am I just special???


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Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver

[Dave Mitchel]

I would wait if I were you. I upgraded, and I say that with tongue in cheek. 
I am not all that happy with the 5 and the new system. there are bugs which 
are more irritants than anything such as not reading texts as they come in 
on lock screen, not being able to complete a reply before Ciri goes off into 
something else.

I wish I had waited for the second coming of this update/upgrade system.

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Merritt

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver

So out of curiosity, what are people's opinions about running iOS 8 on
an iPhone 5? I have the 5 and haven't updated yet, trying to wait
until I get the new iPhone 6 hopefully soon.

Wayne

On 9/24/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems with
IOS 8 are those with 4s's. It's very possible that the 4s can't handle
the requirements of IOS with other apps and Apple shouldn't have
supported it.

On 9/24/14, Ųyvind Lode oyv...@lode.is wrote:

First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8.
However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my 4s.
I have not found a pattern to all the crashes.
The good thing is that VO at least restarts when it decide to die on me.
But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed VO
is
on, screen curtain on etc is announced.
I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver

Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the case
that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to toggle
the voice on and off.

Also, if you have the home button set as your VoiceOver short cut, try a
triple tap of the home button. Recycling VoiceOver helps me in similar
situations. Maybe you can use Siri to turn VoiceOver off and then back
on as well.

I've seen a couple of posts now to where IOS 8 with it's VoiceOver bugs
is compared to blindness specific products or older smart phone
technologies, like Windows Mobile running Mobile Accessibility. IMHO,
one of the great things about Apple and their commitment to making their
main stream products accessible is that we get treated the same as the
rest of their main stream customers. I fear that if we lower the bar
with our expectations then we're no better off then when we use those so
called blind ghetto products that so many people are quick to thumb
their noses at. Let's give Apple credit where credit is due, but let's
just not roll over like blind Uncle Tom's being happy with whatever
accessibility Apple thinks we'll be content with.

On 09/24/2014 12:18 AM, David Chittenden wrote:

When VO goes quiet like that, take your fingers away from the iPhone.
iOS
is performing memory management. Give a chance for iOS / VO to catch up.
Something similar occurred with iOS 7 when it first came out. Unlike
blindness specific poducts which can take six months to a year to be
fixed, Apple's history is to take one-three months. Let's see what
happens.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 24 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

I'm sorry but VoiceOver on my 5S has now complete crap on IOS 8 as for
the second time today VoiceOver has completely crapped out while
tapping
the screen at the same time a push notification comes through.
VoiceOVer
just dies and if I press the home button and tell Siri to tell Siri to
turn VO on Siri tells me VO is already on. Ok, really then why am I
hearing nothing but clicks. Then I go to press the power on/off button
and the home button to restart the phone and now that doesn't work as I
hear the photo being taken sound. Really impressive job with IOS8
Apple.
I'm sorry but this IOS 8 release with all of its bugs is total crap and
a
really piss poor job by Apple for the blind community. If you haven't
upgraded yet don't until 8.1 and that is if Apple can be bothered to
actually make some VO changes in that one as it is obvious there
engineers are more focused on other areas and VoiceOver is at the
bottom
of the food chain. Time to start at least listening to what Droid is
doin

g, never thought I would say that having been on the iPhone since the 3GS
and completely shifting all my products to Apple, but this release and
the
35 or so VO bugs is making me start to think maybe Apple isn't the
answer.


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Re: Speak messages on locked screen?

[Dave Mitchel]

I think it is because you are special, and because of that I too am special!
it is a feature I miss and also cannot get it to work on my 5!


-Original Message- 
From: Anna Byrne

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speak messages on locked screen?

I O S 8.  I hear a notification tone when I get a message with my
screen locked, but the message is not spoken as it was in IOS 7.  In
Accessibility there is an item that says 'speak messages always'; but
it doesn't speak when the screen is locked.  Is this true for
everyone, or am I just special???

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Re: The good things in iOS8

[Dave Mitchel]

how does a person use the predict feature?
I'm an old fart and have a  hard time learning these new gadgets! lol

-Original Message- 
From: Yolanda

Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The good things in iOS8

And the predict feature is great!


On 9/20/2014 6:00 PM, Laura wrote:

Hi

I know there have been some bugs, and I know there's been some upset, but 
I wanted to take a moment to recognise the good things in iOS8.


I love the direct typing feature. I've been hoping for it for years, and 
I'm so much faster on both the iPad and iPhone as a result. I also love 
having Alex as an option, and having braille as a universal input will 
make it much easier to type in louder environments


I'm not saying we shouldn't give them feedback about the bugs, or that we 
shouldn't complain if they don't listen, but we could also recognise the 
things they have done well. And it's also worth noting that a lot of 
sighted people are upset about the bugs in the current release. I'd be 
wary about reading too much into apple's commitment to accessibility based 
on the voiceover bugs in this release.


Cheers.

Laura



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Re: iMessages on an old iPhone

[Dave Mitchel]

is this the voice messages or any regular message? I use wifi due to such a 
limited data plan.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessages on an old iPhone

Do you have data on your old phone or are you connected to WiFi? iMessages
require a data connection to work.

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Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:35 PM
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Subject: iMessages on an old iPhone

Hey all,

I am starting to use my old iPhone 4s more and more as I now have a 5S. One
thing I would have thought is that you could still get your iMessages not
text messages on an old phone? I looked in settings under messages and all
is turned on. Any advice? Thanks,

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Re: Blocking unwanted text messages

[Dave Mitchel]

fortunately it will block both calls and texts from the same number.
a quite nice addition and safety feature.

-Original Message- 
From: TaraPrakash

Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blocking unwanted text messages

Thanks for confirming. I was under the assumption that text messages could 
not be blocked.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net 
wrote:


yes, it will block calls and texts as I have done it on my 5C.


-Original Message- From: TaraPrakash
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blocking unwanted text messages

Are you sure about this ?   I don't think it will block the text messages

Sent from my iPhone


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Hello Don,
From within the message, double tap on the contact button which will
be at the upper right of the screen. Next, flick right until you get
to the more info button and double tap. In this dialogue, you will
find a button that states block this caller. Simply double tap on this
button, flick right to yes and double tap. This number will now be
blocked.
Hope that helps



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Because my iPhone number has erroneously gotten in someone's
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Please tell me how to do so.  I have blocked phone calls from some
numbers but don't know how to preclude text messages from unwelcome
posters.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: Blocking unwanted text messages

[Dave Mitchel]

yes, it will block calls and texts as I have done it on my 5C.


-Original Message- 
From: TaraPrakash

Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blocking unwanted text messages

Are you sure about this ?   I don't think it will block the text messages

Sent from my iPhone


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Hello Don,
From within the message, double tap on the contact button which will
be at the upper right of the screen. Next, flick right until you get
to the more info button and double tap. In this dialogue, you will
find a button that states block this caller. Simply double tap on this
button, flick right to yes and double tap. This number will now be
blocked.
Hope that helps



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Because my iPhone number has erroneously gotten in someone's
distribution list, I would like to block all texts from this number.
Please tell me how to do so.  I have blocked phone calls from some
numbers but don't know how to preclude text messages from unwelcome
posters.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: SIRI whisdom

[Dave Mitchel]

you just got to love her! 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: SIRI whisdom

Hi,

 

Just thought I share the latest SIRI whise crack. I just asked SIRI to set a 30 
minute timer for something I put in the oven. SIRI replied as follows:

 

OK, I set it. Just remember, a watched iPhone never boils.

 

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

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containers?? UTB: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs iphone

[Dave Mitchel]

what are containers? what are they used for etc.?

-Original Message- 
From: Krister Ekstrom

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs 
iphone


I hope i am familiar with containers, but i don't think the problem i had 
was with them. As soon as you go over a container border there's a special 
beep, for example when you go to the virtual keyboard there's that beep. No 
the problem i had was in swiping, i got forced back to where i left off and 
sometimes the ipad or rather voiceover on it would do other commands like 
reading a character  when in character mode and so on. I kept going down or 
up as i went sideways.

/Krister


28 jul 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com:

Are you sure your problem is swiping, or is it perhaps that containers are
confusing you? There are gestures for moving focus to containers, or you 
can
also move focus by touching on the left or right part of the screen. Are 
you

familiar with containers?



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs
iphone

Hi, But how about my question on navigating? Is the Mini easier to 
navigate

on than the Air or the other bigger pads? The problem i had was that i
couldn't swipe because i didn't manage to swipe in a streight line so 
other

commands got issued instead. Anyone think this sounds familiar?
/Krister


28 jul 2014 kl. 17:35 skrev Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz:

Hi Feliciano,
I understand why you might say that but I respectfully disagree.  I am
completely blind and I have both a iPhone and a iPad.  There are

definitely

situations where the ability to display more information on the screen at
one time is beneficial, even for a Voice Over user.  I especially find

this

to be true in the reading apps, like iBooks, Kindle, and Voice Dream.  I
also like being able to fit longer lines and more lines on the screen 
when

working in notes or a text editor.  A iPad certainly isn't for everyone

but

it isn't quite as simple as saying a iPad isn't beneficial for a

completely

blind person using Voice Over.
Thanks,
Scott Duck


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Feliciano G
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs
iphone

And iPad isn't really beneficial for totally blind person that uses
voiceover. Especially if that individual has an iPhone. The larger screen

on
an iPad just makes things more complicated than using an iPhone or 
iTouch.

Clients always ask me this question. I always tell them an iPhone is the

way

to go if you are totally blind as the larger screen makes things

difficult.


Regards, Feliciano

Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v


Sent from the Super-iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:

Hi,

The sad truth is that I hardly use my iPad at all. NB: this won't
change when the next iPad is announced unless they shrink it down to
the size of an iPhone which isn't going to happen for reasons that are
hopefully obvious.

I find browsing the internet to be more pleasurable on an iPad than it
is on an iPhone as I'm into feeling the layout of pages, but I still
use a computer for this sort of thing by default. Every now and again
I'll be out and about for a few days  I'll be without a laptop which
would be a good oppertunity for my iPad to shine, but I tend to take a
bluetooth keyboard with me for these trips anyway, so the touch screen
doesn't get that much use.

I've purchased two iPads so far with the intent of finding a use for
them, but for me at least, there isn't really a space in my life for a
device that isn't a phone or a PC.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 7/28/14, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote:
Thought I'd help out by posting a relevant link on this iPhone vs
iPad question; it is information regarding a similar question asked
in the past--the information's source is from the ViPhone list 
archives:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/viphone/iPhone$20vs$
20iPad

The beauty of reading archived messages is that most of the follow-up
questions you may have will most likely have previously been asked
and answered, which means you don't have to ask the same question and
wait for an answer as the answer is already available. Smile.

Joseph

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Re: containers?? UTB: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs iphone

[Dave Mitchel]

ok, thank you! 
I have an I-phone 5S so do I have containers? 
thanks in advance, 

From: Teresa Cochran 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: containers?? UTB: This might seem like a strange question about 
ipad mini vs iphone

Containers are areas of the screen that contain groups of controls. For 
example, your status bar is in one container, and below it is another container 
with the text of a document. Below that is the dock in its own container. On 
the iPad, you have to interact with containers, similar to zooming in as a 
concept. The Mac Os uses very similar concepts with Voiceover.

HtH,
Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

On Jul 28, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote:


  what are containers? what are they used for etc.?

  -Original Message- From: Krister Ekstrom
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs iphone

  I hope i am familiar with containers, but i don't think the problem i had was 
with them. As soon as you go over a container border there's a special beep, 
for example when you go to the virtual keyboard there's that beep. No the 
problem i had was in swiping, i got forced back to where i left off and 
sometimes the ipad or rather voiceover on it would do other commands like 
reading a character  when in character mode and so on. I kept going down or up 
as i went sideways.
  /Krister


28 jul 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com:



Are you sure your problem is swiping, or is it perhaps that containers are

confusing you? There are gestures for moving focus to containers, or you can

also move focus by touching on the left or right part of the screen. Are you

familiar with containers?







Best regards,



Rick Alfaro



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

Of Krister Ekstrom

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:02 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs

iphone



Hi, But how about my question on navigating? Is the Mini easier to navigate

on than the Air or the other bigger pads? The problem i had was that i

couldn't swipe because i didn't manage to swipe in a streight line so other

commands got issued instead. Anyone think this sounds familiar?

/Krister



  28 jul 2014 kl. 17:35 skrev Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz:



  Hi Feliciano,

  I understand why you might say that but I respectfully disagree.  I am

  completely blind and I have both a iPhone and a iPad.  There are

definitely

  situations where the ability to display more information on the screen at

  one time is beneficial, even for a Voice Over user.  I especially find

this

  to be true in the reading apps, like iBooks, Kindle, and Voice Dream.  I

  also like being able to fit longer lines and more lines on the screen when

  working in notes or a text editor.  A iPad certainly isn't for everyone

but

  it isn't quite as simple as saying a iPad isn't beneficial for a

completely

  blind person using Voice Over.

  Thanks,

  Scott Duck





  -Original Message-

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

  Of Feliciano G

  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 6:59 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs

  iphone



  And iPad isn't really beneficial for totally blind person that uses

  voiceover. Especially if that individual has an iPhone. The larger screen

on

  an iPad just makes things more complicated than using an iPhone or iTouch.

  Clients always ask me this question. I always tell them an iPhone is the

way

  to go if you are totally blind as the larger screen makes things

difficult.



 Regards, Feliciano



  Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v





  Sent from the Super-iPhone



On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:



Hi,



The sad truth is that I hardly use my iPad at all. NB: this won't

change when the next iPad is announced unless they shrink it down to

the size of an iPhone which isn't going to happen for reasons that are

hopefully obvious.



I find browsing the internet to be more pleasurable on an iPad than it

is on an iPhone as I'm into feeling the layout of pages, but I still

use a computer for this sort of thing by default. Every now and again

I'll be out and about for a few days  I'll be without a laptop which

Re: Rotor Order Randomly Changing

[Dave Mitchel]

can you explain to me what the handwriting mode is?
does the 5C have this capability?


-Original Message- 
From: David Chittenden

Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rotor Order Randomly Changing

Yes, you are correct. Handwriting moves to that spot whenever one opens a 
new app. This permits one to easily go into handwriting mode.


As to the other situation, whenever actions becomes active, the rotor is 
automatically switched to actions. When Actions disengages, the last item on 
the rotor list in settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, rotor, 
becomes active.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 15 Jul 2014, at 3:01, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

Hi, all,

I may have this wrong, but I've noticed that sometimes the rotor items 
switch around on me. For instance, handwriting mode seems to always be the 
next item, no matter where I am in the rotor order. Also, sounds will pop 
up into the current position and I'll accidentally activate it, when I 
could have sworn I'd had it ses on characters. Anyone else notice this?


Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: iPhone 5 case with lanyard, to hang around my neck?

[Dave Mitchel]

I use a belt clip holder that fits with my 5C. I use a case on the phone itself 
and then the case 

From: Gail the U. S. Male 
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iPhone 5 case with lanyard, to hang around my neck?

Hi List, a while back, I read somewhere about an iPhone case you could hang 
around your neck.  My Otterbox defender's belt clip keeps breaking, so I'm 
looking for a different case! has anyone seen the cases from executive 
productions? any other ideas will be much appreciated.
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Re: Advocates for blind, deaf want even more from Apple

[Dave Mitchel]

well said!
I prefer that Apple and MS and Google stop any accessibility and put all 
their money toward curing all illnesses and disabilities! after all--we are 
at war with the sighted world are we not?

oh, that comment is tongue in cheek!

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advocates for blind, deaf want even more from Apple

Here is what amazes me:

as the creator of the modern smartphone and a long-time champion for the
blind, Apple is feeling the most heat,

I find it funny how Apple once again seems to be under attack more than
Google about accessibility yet they were the ones who started out of the box
accessibility. It's the same with any small security vulnerability, if it
happens on an iPhone Apple gets crucified and google who puts out a platform
with allows for very easy security compromises and where almost any junk can
make it into their app store seems to get the praise for doing all this
amazing stuff.

It also seems that advancing accessibility just can't go quick enough for
some radical advocates out there who apparently can't wait to let this run
its course a bit longer to see where it goes. There is always time for
legislation if it's necessary but I would say that this type of main stream
accessibility has made some pretty big strides in the last 4 or so years.
Oh, yes, where is Windows Phone in this? Here they talk about forcing people
to make apps accessible and Microsoft hasn't even made the platform
accessible. I wonder why these angry people and I do think a lot of these
so-called advocates are angry, don't vent their frustrations where it's
needed. The sense of entitlement which goes along with this drives me up the
wall and I think there are other areas of accessibility deserve a lot more
attention than accessible apps. I wonder how they'll force game developers
to make completely visual games accessible and then there are of course
photo/video editing apps, drawing apps and so on which also should be fully
accessible, right? What a bunch of baloney.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:32 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Advocates for blind, deaf want even more from Apple


New post on MacDailyNews

macdailynews
Advocates for blind, deaf want even more from Apple by MacDailyNews [cfsp
key=adsense_336x280]Advocates for the blind are debating whether to use a
carrot or a stick to persuade one of their oldest allies, Apple Inc, to
close an emerging digital divide in mobile technology, Christina Farr
reports for Reuters. As digital life increasingly moves to the world of
smartphones and tablets, some disabled people with visual, hearing and other
impairments are feeling more left out than ever.
Many disabled advocates believe federal law requires that apps be
accessible, but courts have not ruled on the issue. Few disabled want to
risk alienating Apple, considered a friend, by fighting it, Farr reports.
Mobile apps that work well can transform a blind person's life... But when
apps don't work, life can grind to a stop. Jonathan Lyens, a San Francisco
city employee, who is legally blind, has a hard time browsing jobs on
professional networking site LinkedIn. 'The app is insane. Buttons aren't
labeled. It's difficult to navigate,' said Lyens.
When it comes to social media apps, new problems arise with every release,
he said. 'I get nervous every time I hit the update button.'
LinkedIn has hired an accessibility chief, Jennison Asuncion, who himself is
blind, and says it is working to improve the app.
Still, advocates of the disabled want the problem solved by the company at
the center of the app world -- Apple. Rival Google Inc, whose Android
operating system drives more phones than Apple, is also under pressure, but
as the creator of the modern smartphone and a long-time champion for the
blind, Apple is feeling the most heat, Farr reports. Apple and Google both
have developer guidelines on how to make features accessible, such as
labeling buttons that can be read by Apple's VoiceOver software. But they
don't require accessibility... Nor do they offer an accessibility rating
system, which some disabled advocates say would be a big help.
At last week's National Federation of the Blind convention, members
approved a resolution to press Apple to create and enforce accessibility
standards, Farr reports. Apple's next version of its phone operating
system, iOS 8, will have a speak screen features that reads whatever is on
the screen, improved zoom, and support for hearing aids for hearing impaired
made by companies including ReSound. Apple helped develop the hearing aid.
Howard Rosenblum, chief executive officer of the National Association of the
Deaf, wants more. 'Any app should be accessible to everyone, he said.'

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Re: Siri problem since update...anyone else?

[Dave Mitchel]

I had the same problem and the reset worked great for me. 
you do not lose any settings! 

From: Christina C. 
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Siri problem since update...anyone else?

I have not tried a reset in the way you described. Is that safe and what is the 
difference? 

Thanks,
Christina

On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:


  Have you tried a reset? Not a reboot, but holding down the home and power 
buttons simultaneously for about ten seconds? It ma also be worth going into 
Settings  Siri and toggling Siri off and back on. I don't personally use the 
feature you described, but these are standard troubleshooting steps to try.

  On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello all,

I am on an iPhone 5S and I shut down and rebooted my phone after the latest 
update. I have been able to hold down the home button while using Siri until I 
am done talking. However, now, Siri cuts me off and starts responding before I 
am done talking even though I am still holding down the home button. It is 
extremely frustrating. If I ask Siri to text someone I only get two words in 
past their name. Then Siri cuts me off and reads back a short two word text 
because Siri won't let me finish. :( No matter how many times I do this, Siri 
continually cuts me off, even if i talk really fast or really slow or really 
loud or normal. This just started yesterday after the update. 

Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Siri problem since update...anyone else?

[Dave Mitchel]

it dd not when I reset

From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:12 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Siri problem since update...anyone else?

Didn’t this, at one time, inactivate VoiceOver on some devices? Is that still a 
risk?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri problem since update...anyone else?

 

Holding the home and power buttons for 10 seconds is a safe reset. It should 
only be used when turning the iOS device off, and then on again does not fix 
the problem. When done, iOS will take longer to reboot because it rebuilds the 
driver stacks. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

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Sent from my iPhone


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  I have not tried a reset in the way you described. Is that safe and what is 
the difference?

   

  Thanks,

  Christina

   

  On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:





  Have you tried a reset? Not a reboot, but holding down the home and power 
buttons simultaneously for about ten seconds? It ma also be worth going into 
Settings  Siri and toggling Siri off and back on. I don't personally use the 
feature you described, but these are standard troubleshooting steps to try.

  On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:





  Hello all,

  I am on an iPhone 5S and I shut down and rebooted my phone after the latest 
update. I have been able to hold down the home button while using Siri until I 
am done talking. However, now, Siri cuts me off and starts responding before I 
am done talking even though I am still holding down the home button. It is 
extremely frustrating. If I ask Siri to text someone I only get two words in 
past their name. Then Siri cuts me off and reads back a short two word text 
because Siri won't let me finish. :( No matter how many times I do this, Siri 
continually cuts me off, even if i talk really fast or really slow or really 
loud or normal. This just started yesterday after the update. 

  Has anyone else experienced this?

  Thanks,
  Christina

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new carrier needed!

[Dave Mitchel]

Hello, I am currently on T-mobile and soon will be needing a n new carrier. I 
have a 7 month old 5C which i will also need to move. 
Does anyone know of a carrier that is inexpensive and good, and that I can move 
my phone to? 
Thanks in advance, 
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Re: new carrier needed!

[Dave Mitchel]

thank you Chris, I called my local T-mobile franchise and will probably be 
going with them. 
Thanks for the information. 

From: Cristóbal 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: new carrier needed!

Since you say that you’re with T-Mobile, then you’re going to need a GSM MVNO. 
I hear that AllTel and Straight Talk are pretty good. You could just stick with 
T-Mobile since their cheapest Simple Plan is something like $40.00 for 
unlimited talk, text and 500 mb of data.

I use Ting which uses the Sprint network and am paying around $50.00 a month 
for both my wife and I. Ting wouldn’t work for you as the GSM phone won’t work 
on the Ting/Sprint CDMA network. That and Ting doesn’t yet support the 5C.

I think ATT has started to offer so-so attractive pre-paid smart phone plans 
too, but perhaps someone whose using ATT or one of the other GSM MVNO 
companies can chime in with more accurate information.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Mitchel
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new carrier needed!

 

Hello, I am currently on T-mobile and soon will be needing a n new carrier. I 
have a 7 month old 5C which i will also need to move. 

Does anyone know of a carrier that is inexpensive and good, and that I can move 
my phone to? 

Thanks in advance, 

Dave 

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Re: new carrier needed!

[Dave Mitchel]

I have the 5C already, so figure I’ll go with T-mobile and the $40 plan
thanks, 

From: Joseph Hudson 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: new carrier needed!

Hi Dave, about how inexpensive are you thinking? That will play this I think 
the cheapest you can get without buying an iPhone alright would be ATT

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  Hello, I am currently on T-mobile and soon will be needing a n new carrier. I 
have a 7 month old 5C which i will also need to move. 
  Does anyone know of a carrier that is inexpensive and good, and that I can 
move my phone to? 
  Thanks in advance, 
  Dave 
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Re: mlb at bat

[Dave Mitchel]

there is also a phone number in there somewhere and they were very helpful 
when I called them.



-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mlb at bat

Hi Denise,
Open the app on your phone, there should be an in app link to purchase the
audio subscription there.

Thanks.

Robbie


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Subject: mlb at bat

Hello all,
Can someone explain how to purchase one of the subscriptions for MLB At Bat?
I have had the app on my phone for sometim, but it looks like things have
changed in the way one purchases a subscription from last year? thanks.

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Re: Exploring a future destination

[Dave Mitchel]

oh there are tons of places around that area!
what mode of transportation are you taking?
Grand Coulee dam is only about an hour and a half from there, and the 
weather is great this time of year.



-Original Message- 
From: Traci

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Exploring a future destination

It's a small town about two hours east of Seattle. Leavenworth Washington. 
It has a very Bavarian feel. :-)  I hope I spelled that correctly.


There was a Groupon in my inbox the other day, with the subject nine 
destinations with in two hours driving distance from Seattle. :-)


I'm finding the app you suggested very easy to use. I like how it integrates 
with Google maps or Apple maps.


Traci


On Jun 16, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

May I ask where you are going for your getaway?

We just returned home from Black Hawk, Colorado.

Donna


On Jun 16, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

Wow! Thanks for the app suggestion places around. It will meet my needs 
just fine. I'm already having fun looking for the nearest coffee spot and 
fun outdoor cafés.


Thanks again, I wasn't quite ready to spend $30 on blind square. :)

Traci

On Jun 16, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Victor Gouveia 
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Hi Traci,

It would help if you could tell us what city/town you're going to visit, 
that way if there's a specialty app for that city/town, someone from 
that city/town could tell you if it exists.


For example, if you were coming to Toronto, I would tell you that you 
could visit the Toronto website, see what's in Toronto that would be 
worth seeing, and you could take public transit to each location, as all 
tourist destinations in Toronto are accessible by public transit.


In any case, if you're to rely solely on the GPS apps on your iPhone, 
you'll kill your battery, and not have a way to get back.  This way, 
you'll know your destination, and have a more reliable way of finding 
out about your destination.




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Subject: Exploring a future destination

Hi all,

We are going on vacation next Month to a town that is suppose to be very 
walkable.  I want to enter the address of the hotel  plan some future 
walks to shops, restaurants, dog friendly area etc.  At this point on my 
iPhone, I have no special GPS apps.  I have maps, google maps, map 
quest, and a handful of public transit apps.  It is a small town we are 
going to, so public transit won't apply.


:) What do you suggest?  I have of course heard of blind square  
Ariadne gps, would you recommend one of those?  Something else?


I thought I'd look at around me and walk score, but I'm not sure these 
apps will do what I want.


I'd love to use the app and pretend I'm on Front street walking in the 
town. If you know what I mean.


Thanks,
Traci

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Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

[Dave Mitchel]

what is a hot spot?

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:00 AM
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Subject: Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

What iPhone do you have, and what iOS are you running? My for S  running 7.1 
has a hotspot built into it.


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Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

[Dave Mitchel]

ok, thank you!
I somehow used some sort of thing that cost us some money, and I know it was 
not this.
I thought that because I was using WyFy (sp) to listen to a baseball game I 
was not using the data plan. wrong I do believe. I'm on T-mobile


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Hallsworth

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

A hotspot or internet tethering allows one to share a cellular data
connection with a device such as a laptop or a wifi only tablet. The
connection usually happens over wifi but bluetooth and USB are also
supported.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 13/06/2014 17:03, Dave Mitchel wrote:

what is a hot spot?

-Original Message- From: Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:00 AM
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Subject: Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

What iPhone do you have, and what iOS are you running? My for S  running
7.1 has a hotspot built into it.



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Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

[Dave Mitchel]

that was what I thought so was curious why there was cellular used
it will get figured out I'm sure!
thanks

-Original Message- 
From: DJ

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

You are not using cellular data while on wi-fi.  Also, most plans through
T-Mobile are unlimmited so you might check to see if yours is one of those
plans.

DJ

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Of Dave Mitchel
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

ok, thank you!
I somehow used some sort of thing that cost us some money, and I know it was
not this.
I thought that because I was using WyFy (sp) to listen to a baseball game I
was not using the data plan. wrong I do believe. I'm on T-mobile

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

A hotspot or internet tethering allows one to share a cellular data
connection with a device such as a laptop or a wifi only tablet. The
connection usually happens over wifi but bluetooth and USB are also
supported.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu

On 13/06/2014 17:03, Dave Mitchel wrote:

what is a hot spot?

-Original Message- From: Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A program that will make my iPhone a hot spotspp

What iPhone do you have, and what iOS are you running? My for S
running
7.1 has a hotspot built into it.



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can't get touch typing to turn off!

[Dave Mitchel]

Help please!
I turned on touch typing to test it and now cannot get it to return to the 
other mode. 
I have tried going to edit field and using the rotor, but for some reason I am 
unable to find where to return it to the other method. 
I am using a 5C 
I’m trying to enter a new contact! 

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

[Dave Mitchel]

what is jail breaking?
just curious!

-Original Message- 
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Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to
www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

[Dave Mitchel]

thank you. I have heard it mentioned on here before and never understood 
what it was. I ask Ciri to get it for me.

thanks again

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Hi Dave,

If you do a Google search for exactly what you asked in your message What
is jailbreaking, the first search result is a very nice Wikipedia article
which explains it much better than I could. The abstract is this:

iOS jailbreaking is the process of removing limitations on iOS, Apple's
operating system on devices running it through the use of software and
hardware exploits; ...

If you have a SIRI capable iOS device, you could even simply ask Search
Wikipedia for Jailbreaking and it would come up with the same article ad
ask you if you wanted it to be read out.


Regards,
Sieghardd

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 PM
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Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

what is jail breaking?
just curious!

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:34 PM
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Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to
www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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Re: Typing On The iPhone's OnScreen Keyboard

[Dave Mitchel]

what is the benefit of enabling touch typing?

From: Matthew Dyer 
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's OnScreen Keyboard

Hi,

I myself just use the on scream key Bord with touch typing inabled. I hold my 
phone in my right hand and use my left index finger and it works well for me.

Hth

Matthew



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Hi Everyone,I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type 
on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone.  Personally, I don't particularly like 
to use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy.  I 
just want to use the regular keyboard.  Dictation can be useful, but of course, 
sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately.  I 
have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. 
 I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to 
type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the 
phone.  I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen 
keyboard, enter your text.  I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would 
also be interested in what typing mode you use.  And, does anyone else besides 
me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs?Thanks!Desi
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Re: Typing On The iPhone's OnScreen Keyboard

[Dave Mitchel]

is there a quick way to change between touch and tap typing? I am going to 
practice both to see which I prefer. 
Thanks much! 

From: Christopher J Chaltain 
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's OnScreen Keyboard

In touch typing, when you place your finger on the character you want to enter, 
you just need to lift your finger to enter that character. This is quicker and 
less effort than double tapping the character you want to enter after you land 
on it. I also find split tapping to be pretty efficient, but I prefer touch 
typing when using my thumbs and split tapping when using one pointer finger, 
although I don't often switch to split typing when I use one pointer finger to 
type since I do it so seldomly.

Ultimately the only benefit to touch typing is if you prefer it over the other 
methods. Give it a try and see if you like it or not. There's no right answers, 
just different options and the ability to use whatever you prefer.


On 5/25/2014 7:40 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:

  what is the benefit of enabling touch typing?

  From: Matthew Dyer 
  Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 5:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Typing On The iPhone's OnScreen Keyboard

  Hi,

  I myself just use the on scream key Bord with touch typing inabled. I hold my 
phone in my right hand and use my left index finger and it works well for me.

  Hth

  Matthew



  On May 25, 2014 3:06:33 PM EDT, Desi Noller mailto:desi.nol...@gmail.com 
wrote: 
Hi Everyone,

I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the 
on-screen keyboard of the iPhone.  Personally, I don't particularly like to use 
a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy.  I just want 
to use the regular keyboard.  Dictation can be useful, but of course, 
sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively privately.  I 
have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would like to get faster. 
 I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my right index finger to 
type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is at the bottom of the 
phone.  I'm interested to know how others who type using the regular on-screen 
keyboard, enter your text.  I do happen to use Touch Typing mode, but I would 
also be interested in what typing mode you use.  And, does anyone else besides 
me just use the regular on-screen keyboard for their typing needs?

Thanks!

Desi

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Re: Junk mail

[Dave Mitchel]

have you tried a control delete? that may do it!

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Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:01 PM
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Subject: Junk mail

Hi all,

For some reason, when I check my junk mail, there are about 25 messages that
keep appearing. How do I get rid of them? They say they were from back in
April. I have also emptied my trash folder.

Thank you so much!

Jenn

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Re: screen cover

[Dave Mitchel]

where is the cover available? the screen dots I think? I have a 5C

-Original Message- 
From: gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net

Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 11:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: screen cover

I'm interested to use the phone much better and also to protect it. Does it
mean that you also use a case for the phone?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: screen cover


I suppose it helps keep the screen from getting scratched, but really,
the reason I use the tactile screen protector is the way it assists me
to move around the screen and especially with typing on the on-screen
keyboard.
Penny

On 4/29/14, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net
wrote:
Does the cover actually protect the screen besides having the tactile 
marks?


I don't have any screen protector yet.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: screen cover


Hi Alex and all, I have used a tactile screen protector since I got my
first IPhone (the 4), and I now use the model that's been updated for
the 5s. I enjoy using the tactile dots for orientation and believe
that their availability reqlly speeds up my typing on the IPhone. In
addition, it's always easy to find the DONE and the EDIT buttons. It's
surprising how much the helpful orientation facilitates using the
IPhone, and I recommend them to every new IPhone user I meet.
Penny

p.s., I like the model that's less busy, i.e., there are fewer
markings, and the markings on the keyboard refer to the F and J on the
QWERTY home row.

On 4/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
The Speed Dots tactile screen protectors are the ones. I've seen them, 
but


I
don't use one personally. Every app is laid out differently, so while it
is
true that you do get tactile reference points, they can often change what
they reference depending on the app you have open. I found it just as
easy
to remember where things are on the screen and rely on speech or braille.
That said, if you are in a noisy area, they might prove useful, but then
if
you can't hear the speech telling you what's on the screen, how will you
hear the voice telling you the result of any action?
On Apr 29, 2014, at 9:25 AM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:


Hello,

I read about some screen covers that have tactile marks. Does anyone use
them? Are they useful? Do they help?
Rena
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Re: Is There A Talking Pedometer App?

[Dave Mitchel]

I ran into the same thing with the 5C phone.
any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,

-Original Message- 
From: lsterling0

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is There A Talking Pedometer App?

Hi I tried the app but can't find the start button. It comes up with the
screen to walk around to calerbrate. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks
Louana



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Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is There A Talking Pedometer App?

Did you double tap the start button?

Regards,

Alan

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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From: Nimit kaur.ni...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Is There A Talking Pedometer App?


Hi! Thank you for info.  Question.  In the app, when you get to sensor, it
says walk around to activate your sensor but I have been walking since 15
minutes and it still says same message.  What do I do? Sent from my super
iPhone



On Apr 19, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Alan Paganelli
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:

It's been on the iPhone as far back as the iPhone 4 that I can remember.
Apple and Nike shoes are in partnership or at least they use to be.  I
remember seeing adds on the  about it where if you bought the iDevice you
got a coupon for X amount off a pare of sneakers.  I forgot what their
called in Briton and don't feel like reading Harry Potter just to find out



so please forgive my aging mind! grin

Regards,

Alan

Please click on:
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Is There A Talking Pedometer App?


Hey cheers! I didn't know such a feature was built in now. I'm sure in
the past you had to get a third party accessory to get this to work. So
when was this changed?

Regards Chris

Happy Easter!


On 19/04/2014 16:37, Alan Paganelli wrote:
There is a pedometer already built into your iPhone.

Open settings, Nikkei plus iPod.  Double tap on Niki plus iPad.  You can
in settings within the app select your present weight in either pounds or



KG.  You can also select your power song and even your choice of male or
female voices.  And the app is totally accessible.

HTH



Regards,

Alan

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my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 5:53 AM
  Subject: Is There A Talking Pedometer App?


  Hi,
  I was wondering if there was such a thing as, a VO friendly pedometer
app that will speak distance and calories?
  Thanks for any advice.

  Regards.
  Jim.

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Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

[Dave Mitchel]

thank you!
I looked imy contropanel for this app and was unable to find it.
I am using a 5C


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Apple boy

Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

Airplay is a proprietary technology by Apple that allows wireless
streaming of media content, usually audio but video is supported too.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 14/04/2014 22:23, Dave Mitchel wrote:

what does this mean? I am new to this fancy phone stuff!

-Original Message- From: Chris Apple boy
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

Hi all
No, it's a micro hi-fi system not a wi-fi system.


Regards Chris

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On 14/04/2014 21:16, Tim Emmons wrote:

Explain to me the microwifi system, I'm curious. Thanks.
On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hi Eric,

As Chris pointed out, Apple has put Airplay into the Control Centre, I
assume mostly in order to streamline the interface of its apps such as
Music, Podcasts etc. As you already noticed the MLB at Bat app still
has its
own Airplay button and so does Audible to give another example. It
takes a
bit of getting used to at first, but in a way it does make sense to
have it
centralized in Control Centre because I might be playing music via
Airplay
and check my email or make a phone call and this way I can bring up the
Control Centre from any home screen or app and control Airplay.

I am not sure what the purpose is of having your Philipps show up as
a WiFi
network. Often a device would show up here to do some initial
configuration.
One example of this is the WiFi Thermostat from Radio Thermostat.
When you
first hook it up it shows up as a WiFi network and you have to
connect to
it, then bring up the Netatmo app and do some initial configuration. You
actually join the thermostat to your home network this way, once you
connect
to it and bring up the Radio Thermostat app you are prompted to make
a few
selections, then a list of available WiFi networks shows and you
select your
home WiFi and enter it's password. Once the thermostat is connected
you go
back to WiFi and rejoin your home WiFi on your phone, then you return
to the
app to finish the setup of the thermostat. Once it's done it will no
longer
be visible in your list of available WiFi networks.

I am not sure which model of Philipps speaker you have and what you
do to
join the speaker to your home WiFi. But since a speaker just like the
thermostat has no interface on its own where you would select which
network
you want and where you can enter the password of your WiFi, I very much
assume that you do this also on the phone. In any case, if the
speaker is
already connected to your WiFi you will definitely not have to switch
to it
and your phone or any laptop remain connected to your WiFi.

If you go to Airplay in Control Centre and you can't see your Philipps
speaker as an option then it is not properly joined to your WiFi. By the
way, I find the quickest way to find Airplay which is on the bottom
right
above the bottom row of icons is to touch the bottom left of the
phone and
find the Flashlight app, then swipe once to the left and you are on
Airplay.
If your phone is connected to your WiFi and there is no Airplay then
that
means no Airplay devices are found. If you have problems just send me
the
model of your Philipps speaker and I can probably help you out.

As far as the future of Airplay is concerned, I highly doubt it will go
away. You always find lots of discontinued stuff on Amazon especially
when
it comes to electronic accessories. There are always new models and
hence
others who are discontinued. Apple devices continue to be as popular
as ever
and therefore accessories which work with said devices will also
continue to
be popular. I would definitely not worry about Airplay going away any
time
soon, it won't happen.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of SSEric
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

First, a general question. Is Airplay no longer an option in the
Music app?
I don't see it on my iPhone 5 or Touch running the latest IOS.. I am
sure it
used to be there, but I don't play music all that often and never had
cause
for Airplay, so I am not sure when it disappeared. Is there something
you
must do to activate it in the Music player?

Specifically, I bought a Philips Airplay enabled speaker. It requires
that
you acquire your network. I then bring up Wifi on my phone or Touch
and can
see the new option for Philips. This is fine, except that if I switch
from
my home network to this new Philips one, which is attached to my home
network, I can then no longer stream via wifi

Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

[Dave Mitchel]

ok, thanks,

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Apple boy

Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

You need to have something playing first before Airplay will appear.

Regards Chris

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On 15/04/2014 16:30, Dave Mitchel wrote:

thank you!
I looked imy contropanel for this app and was unable to find it.
I am using a 5C


-Original Message- From: Chris Apple boy
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

Airplay is a proprietary technology by Apple that allows wireless
streaming of media content, usually audio but video is supported too.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 14/04/2014 22:23, Dave Mitchel wrote:

what does this mean? I am new to this fancy phone stuff!

-Original Message- From: Chris Apple boy
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

Hi all
No, it's a micro hi-fi system not a wi-fi system.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 14/04/2014 21:16, Tim Emmons wrote:

Explain to me the microwifi system, I'm curious. Thanks.
On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hi Eric,

As Chris pointed out, Apple has put Airplay into the Control Centre, I
assume mostly in order to streamline the interface of its apps such as
Music, Podcasts etc. As you already noticed the MLB at Bat app still
has its
own Airplay button and so does Audible to give another example. It
takes a
bit of getting used to at first, but in a way it does make sense to
have it
centralized in Control Centre because I might be playing music via
Airplay
and check my email or make a phone call and this way I can bring up the
Control Centre from any home screen or app and control Airplay.

I am not sure what the purpose is of having your Philipps show up as
a WiFi
network. Often a device would show up here to do some initial
configuration.
One example of this is the WiFi Thermostat from Radio Thermostat.
When you
first hook it up it shows up as a WiFi network and you have to
connect to
it, then bring up the Netatmo app and do some initial configuration.
You
actually join the thermostat to your home network this way, once you
connect
to it and bring up the Radio Thermostat app you are prompted to make
a few
selections, then a list of available WiFi networks shows and you
select your
home WiFi and enter it's password. Once the thermostat is connected
you go
back to WiFi and rejoin your home WiFi on your phone, then you return
to the
app to finish the setup of the thermostat. Once it's done it will no
longer
be visible in your list of available WiFi networks.

I am not sure which model of Philipps speaker you have and what you
do to
join the speaker to your home WiFi. But since a speaker just like the
thermostat has no interface on its own where you would select which
network
you want and where you can enter the password of your WiFi, I very much
assume that you do this also on the phone. In any case, if the
speaker is
already connected to your WiFi you will definitely not have to switch
to it
and your phone or any laptop remain connected to your WiFi.

If you go to Airplay in Control Centre and you can't see your Philipps
speaker as an option then it is not properly joined to your WiFi. By
the
way, I find the quickest way to find Airplay which is on the bottom
right
above the bottom row of icons is to touch the bottom left of the
phone and
find the Flashlight app, then swipe once to the left and you are on
Airplay.
If your phone is connected to your WiFi and there is no Airplay then
that
means no Airplay devices are found. If you have problems just send me
the
model of your Philipps speaker and I can probably help you out.

As far as the future of Airplay is concerned, I highly doubt it will go
away. You always find lots of discontinued stuff on Amazon especially
when
it comes to electronic accessories. There are always new models and
hence
others who are discontinued. Apple devices continue to be as popular
as ever
and therefore accessories which work with said devices will also
continue to
be popular. I would definitely not worry about Airplay going away any
time
soon, it won't happen.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of SSEric
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

First, a general question. Is Airplay no longer an option in the
Music app?
I don't see it on my iPhone 5 or Touch running the latest IOS.. I am
sure it
used to be there, but I don't play music all that often and never had
cause
for Airplay, so I am not sure when it disappeared. Is there something
you
must do to activate it in the Music

Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

[Dave Mitchel]

what does this mean? I am new to this fancy phone stuff!

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Apple boy

Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

Hi all
No, it's a micro hi-fi system not a wi-fi system.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 14/04/2014 21:16, Tim Emmons wrote:

Explain to me the microwifi system, I'm curious. Thanks.
On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hi Eric,

As Chris pointed out, Apple has put Airplay into the Control Centre, I
assume mostly in order to streamline the interface of its apps such as
Music, Podcasts etc. As you already noticed the MLB at Bat app still has 
its
own Airplay button and so does Audible to give another example. It takes 
a
bit of getting used to at first, but in a way it does make sense to have 
it
centralized in Control Centre because I might be playing music via 
Airplay

and check my email or make a phone call and this way I can bring up the
Control Centre from any home screen or app and control Airplay.

I am not sure what the purpose is of having your Philipps show up as a 
WiFi
network. Often a device would show up here to do some initial 
configuration.
One example of this is the WiFi Thermostat from Radio Thermostat. When 
you

first hook it up it shows up as a WiFi network and you have to connect to
it, then bring up the Netatmo app and do some initial configuration. You
actually join the thermostat to your home network this way, once you 
connect
to it and bring up the Radio Thermostat app you are prompted to make a 
few
selections, then a list of available WiFi networks shows and you select 
your
home WiFi and enter it's password. Once the thermostat is connected you 
go
back to WiFi and rejoin your home WiFi on your phone, then you return to 
the
app to finish the setup of the thermostat. Once it's done it will no 
longer

be visible in your list of available WiFi networks.

I am not sure which model of Philipps speaker you have and what you do to
join the speaker to your home WiFi. But since a speaker just like the
thermostat has no interface on its own where you would select which 
network

you want and where you can enter the password of your WiFi, I very much
assume that you do this also on the phone. In any case, if the speaker is
already connected to your WiFi you will definitely not have to switch to 
it

and your phone or any laptop remain connected to your WiFi.

If you go to Airplay in Control Centre and you can't see your Philipps
speaker as an option then it is not properly joined to your WiFi. By the
way, I find the quickest way to find Airplay which is on the bottom right
above the bottom row of icons is to touch the bottom left of the phone 
and
find the Flashlight app, then swipe once to the left and you are on 
Airplay.

If your phone is connected to your WiFi and there is no Airplay then that
means no Airplay devices are found. If you have problems just send me the
model of your Philipps speaker and I can probably help you out.

As far as the future of Airplay is concerned, I highly doubt it will go
away. You always find lots of discontinued stuff on Amazon especially 
when

it comes to electronic accessories. There are always new models and hence
others who are discontinued. Apple devices continue to be as popular as 
ever
and therefore accessories which work with said devices will also continue 
to
be popular. I would definitely not worry about Airplay going away any 
time

soon, it won't happen.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of SSEric
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Airplay: I Just Ain't Getting It!

First, a general question. Is Airplay no longer an option in the Music 
app?
I don't see it on my iPhone 5 or Touch running the latest IOS.. I am sure 
it
used to be there, but I don't play music all that often and never had 
cause

for Airplay, so I am not sure when it disappeared. Is there something you
must do to activate it in the Music player?

Specifically, I bought a Philips Airplay enabled speaker. It requires 
that
you acquire your network. I then bring up Wifi on my phone or Touch and 
can
see the new option for Philips. This is fine, except that if I switch 
from

my home network to this new Philips one, which is attached to my home
network, I can then no longer stream via wifi. Is this just the way it 
is?


By the way, with regard to my first question about Airplay not showing in
the music player, the way I was able to play music was to first select 
the

Philips from Airplay in the MLB At Bat app. I then switched to Music and
played music through the speaker.

I am trying to decide whether or not to keep this speaker and if I want 
to
mess with Airplay at all. If my finding is true that you do have to join 
the
speaker's network 

Re: Looking for a garage door opener App

[Dave Mitchel]

ok, thanks,
I'll do that

-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a garage door opener App

I would first check with your manufacturer.
There are quite a few of garage door opener apps in the app store, but many
look like they are brand specific.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Mitchel
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for a garage door opener App

does anyone know if there is an accessible garage door opener app for the
I-Phone 5c?
Thanks

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Looking for a garage door opener App

[Dave Mitchel]

does anyone know if there is an accessible garage door opener app for the 
I-Phone 5c?
Thanks 


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