Re: Dropbox 38.3 version released yesterday

[Eden Kizer]

I just tried it  and it seems normal here. 
Eden 

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On Mar 9, 2017, at 7:19 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

I noticed Dropbox has already released another update on the heels of version 
38.2 which came out the other day and corrected the VoiceOver bug of version 
36.2. I'm hesitant to try this update after their last problem and I'm 
wondering if any of you have tried it and if so, what your experience was. 

Thanks in advance. 

Alan Lemly 

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Re: exact location finding with uber and lyft apps

[Eden Kizer]

I have this same problem. I can not specify my exact street address. 
Eden 

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On Feb 16, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Louise Peyton  wrote:

Hello:
When using the uber and lyft apps, I’ve noticed that when I input a specific 
pick up address, the apps show a pick up point as one street over from my 
physical location or to meet at an intersection pick up.  This is disconcerting 
when I am not exactly at their shown location.  What do I need to do to have 
these apps reflect my exact specific location?  Thanks in advance.
 
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why do people use voicedream reader just curious

[Eden Kizer]

Hi, I'm just curious why do people use voicedream reader when we can read with 
voiceover to read pretty much anything. Just curious what is the advantage? 
Just curious since so many people seem to love it.

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logging into spotify foracebook isandes

[Eden Kizer]

Hi, I use spotify on my fhone, my computer and now my braillenote. I have 
always used facebook to log in. I recently had issues with my facebook due to 
the ineptitude of another device to log in correctly, and I had ! change my 
password. I immediately changed them on my phone and braillenote and had no 
problems with either. Facebook was logged in and reading timeles. However when 
I went to log back in with spotify because it needed rebogging in, it flaked 
said new password was wrong. Tried it everywhere else and it's still working 
fine but spotify kept sending me to a page to rechan forassword. I uninstalled 
spotify plus all relevant data on mz braillenote and it logged in fine next 
time. However uninstabbling spotify on my phone did not bring the same result. 
Is there something else I need to do? Please help.

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turning of renewing tunein radio

[Eden Kizer]

How do I do this? I just wanted to try premium, and now I have no idea how
to turn this off.

Eden

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trouble logging into bard

[Eden Kizer]

Is anyone else having trouble logging in? I can not do anything to download
books. The site online doesn't seem to be working either.  

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RE: tunein radio

[Eden Kizer]

sounds like it could be and I use braille so can't maneuver the touch screen. I 
reinstalled the app though shouldn't that have fixed the problem if that was 
the case? Thanks.

 

 

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deidre muccio
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 5:38 AM
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Subject: RE: tunein radio

 

Eden

The only time I've had trouble with Tune-In is when I have somehow accidentally 
put it in car mode. At that point you have only 3 or 4 things on the screen and 
can't go back to anything else. Once in car mode you will not hear a button to 
get you out of it. I believe the button is in the top right hand corner of the 
phone when you are in the app. This might require sighted help to rectify, if 
this is your problem. 

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Subject: tunein radio

 

I can’t do anything with it. I downloaded it again on my new phone, and it 
won’t even seem to search for anything. Is this just my day for apps to break? 
Other music apps are working so my connections are fine. Thanks. It wo’t show 
me my saved stations either. Any ideas?

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tunein radio

[Eden Kizer]

I can't do anything with it. I downloaded it again on my new phone, and it
won't even seem to search for anything. Is this just my day for apps to
break? Other music apps are working so my connections are fine. Thanks. It
wo't show me my saved stations either. Any ideas?

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tunein radio

[Eden Kizer]

This app will not pull up my stations or let me search and has not done so
for the past two weeks. I even reinstalled it. This isn't my day for apps to
work right although all but this one and Bard are working fine so not sure
what the issue is.

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RE: trouble logging into bard

[Eden Kizer]

When you say nothing shows up, are you saying it's not working for you either?

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Nothing shows up on my iPhone.  I haven't tried using my computer.

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RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

[Eden Kizer]

How do you store it in Icloud instead of your device? I don't want it 
downloaded. I just want to be able to stream it from a cloud library. How can I 
tell it I want to be able to play srections I have liked by an arsist instead 
of the whole artist catalog or just one particular song. How do I have 
playlists or artists accessible easily but not just hanging out taking up space 
on my phone.


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Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple Music; 
you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you download from 
Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your device; space will be 
taken up on your device. You can, however, store as much music as you want in 
your iCloud Music library. This does not count towards your free 5 GB plan for 
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 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
 but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the 
 iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way to 
 get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this specificly.
 
 Billy Maynard
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 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
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 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
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 Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
   I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably 
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few 
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes 
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it 
 access to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got 
 engaged and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and 
 disassembled and disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I 
 have tens of thousands of songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my 
 external harddrive, and all my folders were messed up, songs 
 missing, artwork, missing, things renamed, things deleted, replaced, 
 and all manner of havoc.  I spent years building and organizing my 
 library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t even begin to 
 think of what I’ve lost.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn 
 on iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have 
 said that albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork 
 was messed up, and other not nice things. Someone even said that 
 iTunes had deleted their songs, and replace them with ones that had 
 DRM. On hearing all these not great comments about iCloud Music 
 Library, I plan to avoid it for a while until Apple gets their crap 
 together. They seem to have problems with cloud 

RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

[Eden Kizer]

I can use the cloud I rarely use data to listen to music. I may be eventually 
where I will want it on my device as I will hopeofly be going out about more 
soon, but now I just want it on the cloud and do not understand this. Perhaps I 
need an intro podcast to the cloud so I should look for that as well maybe help 
me.
Eden

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It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan to 
listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, it can 
be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited data plan or 
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 hi Chris,
 
 Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the 
 cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan 
 while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
 Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without 
 it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.
 
 thanks again,
 Billy Maynard
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 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
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 hi,
 
 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
 but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the 
 iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way 
 to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this 
 specificly.
 
 Billy Maynard
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 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
 belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.
 
 
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 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
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 Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
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 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably 
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few 
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes 
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it 
 access to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
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 Behalf Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library 
 got engaged and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and 
 disassembled and disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I 
 have tens of thousands of songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my 
 external 

RE: Apple music question – I can't find my originally downloaded iTunes content

[Eden Kizer]

I added stuff to my music but did not tell it to make available offline but it 
still took up room on my phone even though it did not say I had more music in 
the storage under music. I had to just delete all the music I saved, so now I 
have no way to remember all the tracks ow liked. Why am I not able to just have 
my music without it storing on my phone?


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Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2015 2:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Apple music question – I can't find my originally downloaded 
iTunes content

Are you sure you downloaded it and not just added it to your My Music? You 
have to make them available offline to be considered as being downloaded.


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 On 5 Jul 2015, at 22:33, David Cleveland davidtclevel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did try this and it works. I don't understand why I have to disable 
 off-line content to see my songs that I've already downloaded. In my mind 
 downloaded songs that I paid for should be considered off-line content. I 
 assume when my trial ends and I do not subscribe to Apple
 
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 Try double tapping on categories and turn off the switch to show offline 
 music only.
 
 
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 On 5 Jul 2015, at 21:58, David Cleveland davidtclevel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have been playing around with Apple music and subscribe to the trial. 
 Today I opened it up and I no longer see my previously downloaded iTunes 
 music. I do see some music I chose to download from Apple music. What do 
 you think happened?
 
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RE: Looking For Braille Keyboard Keystroke

[Eden Kizer]

Left and right through pages is o-chord for right and 1 3 5 chord to go left. 
Going up and down screens is dots 3 4 5 6 chord and 1 4 5 6 chord respectively. 
I hope this helps.

 

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Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:49 AM
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Subject: Looking For Braille Keyboard Keystroke

 

I ask for a friend, who is not on the list.  If it makes a difference, I think 
he has a Hems braille display.  What is the keystroke for the three-finger 
swipe up and down to change screens?  And, the three-finger swipe left and 
right?  Thanks for any information.

 

Arnold Schmidt

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youtube

[Eden Kizer]

I have never made a video on my phone nor posted anything to youtube before.
It has now come to a point I need to do so. Can someone please recommend the
best way of doing this. Prefer the most accessible, but I will have some
sighted help if necessary. I have heard the videos app is ok for recording,
but upon downloading the youtube app, I see no button for uploading my
stuff. Can you please advise?

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Re: youtube

[Eden Kizer]

Does a channel get auntomaticY created with your account, I did not see 
anything after fettings and what to watch. Also, what is the best way to record 
the video. The video app just says I have no vids but doesn't seem to show I 
can upload any. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 18, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Eden,
  
 Double tap the menu button at the top left of the screen in the Youtube app. 
 Starting at the top you have “Your account” followed by your Google account 
 email address if you are signed in, if not you have to of course sign in 
 before you can upload.
 If you swipe to the  right, the next item is “Settings”, then “What to Watch” 
 and after that is “My Channel”, after My Channel is the “Upload” button.
  
 Good luck,
 Sieghard
  
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 Eden Kizer
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 Subject: youtube
  
 I have never made a video on my phone nor posted anything to youtube before. 
 It has now come to a point I need to do so. Can someone please recommend the 
 best way of doing this. Prefer the most accessible, but I will have some 
 sighted help if necessary. I have heard the videos app is ok for recording, 
 but upon downloading the youtube app, I see no button for uploading my stuff. 
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braille display and the rotor

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, either I am doing something incredibly wrong or something is incredibly
broken on one of my devices.  I use a braille sense on hand with an IPhone 5
running 8.3. I attempt to use the rotor to do do such things as close things
in the app switcher, and it just won't move. Rotor won't change in any
environment.  I have powered down both the phone and braille sense, and I am
still having this issue.  Can anyone advise?

Eden

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RE: braille display and the rotor

[Eden Kizer]

Yes, Scott, thank you so much for constructive feedback unlike the other 
message I received.  Anyway, that did the trick.  Braille now sees it again.  
Eden

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Subject: Re: braille display and the rotor

Hi Eden.
Have you tried changing the rotor with speech turned on, and it's still not 
working? Sometimes, braille fails to show the rotor announcement and the only 
way to fix it is to turn speech on and then back off again. I assume you are 
using space with dot 6 or dot 3 to move within that setting, and space with 5-6 
or 2-3 to change what element you are navigating by?

Scott

On 5/8/15, Eden Kizer eden...@comcast.net wrote:
 Ok, either I am doing something incredibly wrong or something is 
 incredibly broken on one of my devices.  I use a braille sense on hand 
 with an IPhone
 5
 running 8.3. I attempt to use the rotor to do do such things as close 
 things in the app switcher, and it just won't move. Rotor won't change 
 in any environment.  I have powered down both the phone and braille 
 sense, and I am still having this issue.  Can anyone advise?

 Eden

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bluetooth braille display

[Eden Kizer]

Someone was asking how to activate the focus for typing.  I don't use a
focus on my IPhone, but you would probably use the same gesture to double
tap and the edit box should come up if you have all your settings right.  I
know with my hims device dot 3-6 chord puts it into typing mode, but you
have to have your braille settings on the phone right as well.

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RE: how do you hold down buttons using a braille display

[Eden Kizer]

My mistake, it's the Bluetooth keyboard you can do that with.  My apologies.
Eden

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Subject: Re: how do you hold down buttons using a braille display

Hi Eden.

How do you move apps with a braille display, I do not think that can be done?

Best regards Annie.
 Den 03/05/2015 kl. 04.47 skrev Eden Kizer eden...@comcast.net:
 
 I have not found a way to do this except when moving apps such as into 
 folders.  Other times, you may need a Bluetooth keyboard.  Some people have 
 said you can use that type of gesture on that.  I don't have to use it much 
 so not sure if anyone has found a workaround I don't know about.
 Eden
 
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 Subject: how do you hold down buttons using a braille display
 
 subject says it all. how do you hold down buttons on the touchscreeen using a 
 braille display? or as they may call it, doing a passthrough gesture, double 
 tap and hold, take your pick. Thanks!
 
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RE: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display

[Eden Kizer]

Oh I didn't know the focus did that, where can I find the focus commands 
because I normally use a HIMS braille device which you use the 2 4 6 cchord and 
the 1 3 5 chord that goes left to right.  The 3 4 5 6 chord and 1 4 5 6 chord 
go up and down according to my manual.  Mine is a braille sense on hand, but it 
should still apply.
Eden

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Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display

I don't have this display, but I do have a Focus 40 Blue with rocker bars. One 
of them scrolls pages sideways and one scrolls them vertically. If the Edge has 
something similar, this is quite handy. Sorry I can't be more specific.

HtH,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On May 1, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 (Both with spacebar.) .)
 
 How about: Dots 1-456 +SPACE to scroll down 1 page; and dots 3-456 
 +SPACE to scroll up 1 page. Page right-and-left is o-chord and 
 ow-chord. That is how it is with the Focus displays. To check: first 
 press dots
 1-3 with spacebar, the braille equivalent of VO Help. b+spacebar is 
 the Escape or back key.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Fettgather
 Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
 
 Hello.
 Using the Braille Edge, and attempting to read Bookshare books in read 
 2 go, you have to be able to scroll up and down, instead of scrolling 
 left to right.
 I am trying to find out the Braille command to scroll up and down by 
 page, but I can only find a way to scroll left and right.
 I can find the standard bluetooth keyboard command, option up and 
 option down, but am looking for the braille equivalent.
 Thanks for any  assistance.
 
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RE: how do you hold down buttons using a braille display

[Eden Kizer]

I have not found a way to do this except when moving apps such as into folders. 
 Other times, you may need a Bluetooth keyboard.  Some people have said you can 
use that type of gesture on that.  I don't have to use it much so not sure if 
anyone has found a workaround I don't know about.
Eden

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Subject: how do you hold down buttons using a braille display

subject says it all. how do you hold down buttons on the touchscreeen using a 
braille display? or as they may call it, doing a passthrough gesture, double 
tap and hold, take your pick. Thanks!

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RE: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display

[Eden Kizer]

Try the number sign chord and the backwards number sign chord, that might work.

Eden

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Subject: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display

Hello.
Using the Braille Edge, and attempting to read Bookshare books in read 2 go, 
you have to be able to scroll up and down, instead of scrolling left to right.
I am trying to find out the Braille command to scroll up and down by page, but 
I can only find a way to scroll left and right.
I can find the standard bluetooth keyboard command, option up and option down, 
but am looking for the braille equivalent.
Thanks for any  assistance. 

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Re: medical transcription reference material

[Eden Kizer]

I'll sure be no help there, I must admit, but i can offer encouragement, and I 
know you seem talented in your job, and I don't see a lot of errors coming from 
you typing.  I am sorry they are making it so difficult when you have done it a 
certain way and then they start transferring you to another way.  I wouldn't 
want to change how I did htings after 38 years either, and I have never 
understood the rampant need for pictures to describe everything, and when 
sighted people are working, they really don't like all those pictures covering 
the scren anymore than we do  At least, that's what my boyfriend says.

Eden
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:36 AM
  Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material


  Yeah, and if I can get this training done and actually begin working I may 
consider this with the scripts but have to get all the preliminary stuff out of 
the way, if I can.  Very discouraged at this point, it isn’t my MT knowledge 
that is holding me back it is their stuff and so far about 50% has been 
inaccessible.  They sent me a document so full of pictures that I could not 
even print and then scan it back in and the lady said she had to “actually type 
the document” so I could read the instructions.  Made me chuckle, it was not 
that long and typing it probably took a matter of a minute, provided she could 
read through the pictures, that is.  

   

  Never having seen, I can’t understand why someone would put pictures over 
words as it was described to me.  Even the Optacon would have had trouble had I 
tried to use it.  

   

  I guess since it sounds confusing to me, I don’t see how someone with good 
vision would make sense of it.  

   

  Then what do I know.  

   

  Week to go and I feel as ready for this transition as I felt on my first day 
at the hospital using a MagCard typewriter a Lanier tank system with one take 
that was always getting off track.  One report, a discharge summary by an 
OB-GYN I only understood the “thank you” at the end of the report.  

   

  Then you have family who talked me into a custom-made desk, brought it and 
unloaded a shelving unit that was about 40 years old which had paper and other 
stuff in it but they used the large empty boxes I had been saving to unload my 
desk in the hospital and when I said those were for my office, they said they 
put my office stuff in them.  LOL, now I have to find more boxes in less than 
six days.  

   

  If it can go wrong lately it will.  

   

  I want to dig a hole, climb in, and pull it in after me; this whole 
transition thing makes me feel really dumb.  

   

   

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden Kizer
  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 4:45 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: medical transcription reference material

   

  I have heard it can be used by itself with Dragon, but that it is iffy 
because it doesn't repeat back what you edited.  There is a place called 
www.hartgenconsultancy.com 

  which makes a program that works JAWS and Dragon together so that it does 
give feedback.  I have heard mixed reviews on the product, but the 
demonstration seems like it works.  i am not certain how well it all works, but 
it's good enough.

   

  Someone converted a dictionary into text files which I put on my braille 
sense, and they are done by letter.  I doubt you'd even need such a thing, but 
I have it if you need or want it.  

   

  I am getting all my textbooks converted right now into smaller files because 
they are too large, and when I try to open them, they just gum up the computer 
or notetaker that I am using.

  Eden

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From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 4:31 PM

Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material

 

It is the same company who owns Dragon Dictate.  How well does that work 
with JAWS, might be an easy to increase line counts if I could be sure it would 
work.  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: medical transcription reference material

 

Oh, is that the voice recognition thing? Or, is this a different Nuance 
company?

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Rose Combs 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:34 AM

  Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material

   

  I am currently working for a local hospital

Re: medical transcription reference material

[Eden Kizer]

i think that any way you do your transcription and are productive that it is 
ethically fine.  I was told by Houston Lighthouse that i needed to be using a 
qwerty keyboard.  Why would I do that when i type 60 wpm on a qwerty and 200 
wpm on a braille keyboard.  That's simply good math.  I will obviously get 
better line counts the faster I can type without errors.  IN my opinion, 
however you get the information written down shouldn't matter.  All that should 
matter is that you produce and do it accurately.

Eden
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  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:41 AM
  Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material


  Yes, I remember several years back I was on a USNEWS Group and several 
transcriptionists ere using Dragon and making a lot of lines doing it, most of 
them had hand problems, and I sort of had them after 39 years of transcription. 
 

   

  I remember at the time I wondered if what they were doing was ethical but I 
guess since they were being public about it if was okay.  

   

  Anyway, Nuance when questioned did not say we could not do that eventually.  

   

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brent Harding
  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: medical transcription reference material

   

  Oh, thought that's who they were, the ones who do Dragon and Vocalizer 
voices. If it was using Dragon you were wondering about, Brian Hartgen makes a 
thing called J-Say to make that work accessibly. That would be an interesting 
way to get the line count up if it worked well though, and wasn't too expensive.

   

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:31 PM

Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material

 

It is the same company who owns Dragon Dictate.  How well does that work 
with JAWS, might be an easy to increase line counts if I could be sure it would 
work.  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: medical transcription reference material

 

Oh, is that the voice recognition thing? Or, is this a different Nuance 
company?

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Rose Combs 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:34 AM

  Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material

   

  I am currently working for a local hospital in the office but starting 
Tuesday, March 17th I will be trying Nuance, only because the hospital 
outsourced to them and will be working from home for the first time in 38 plus 
years.  

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eden Kizer
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 6:14 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: medical transcription reference material

   

  So this one is accessible, thanks so much for responding.  Which company 
are you now working for?  I know we corresponded, but honestly with the meds I 
myself was on at the time, I was no good.  Think I'll do better with a clearer 
mind and more help from rehab when I ask for it.  i'll try that IPhone 
reference.  I mostly use braille with my IPhone and have a display for computer 
and the IPhone so it's lovely.

   

  Eden

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 6:03 PM

Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material

 

I have the Micromedex drug database on my phone; now that I will be 
working from home it may be more useful.  I could not manage two sets of ears.  
I also found a psychology term book recently but have not really used it.  

 

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eden Kizer
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 3:24 PM
To: ViPhone@googlegroups.com
Subject: medical transcription reference material

 

I attempted to do this years ago, but I just was not in a state of 
being where I could totally commit

Re: medical transcription reference material

[Eden Kizer]

Is Nuance kind of like Amphion or what used to be Medquist?  i think a 
dictionary on the IPhone might be the best, too as I can easily use it while on 
the computer doing transcription, but i don't really know since all the 
transcriptionists I used to know of seem to be getting older and retiring.

Eden
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 5:34 AM
  Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material


  I am currently working for a local hospital in the office but starting 
Tuesday, March 17th I will be trying Nuance, only because the hospital 
outsourced to them and will be working from home for the first time in 38 plus 
years.  

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden Kizer
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 6:14 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: medical transcription reference material

   

  So this one is accessible, thanks so much for responding.  Which company are 
you now working for?  I know we corresponded, but honestly with the meds I 
myself was on at the time, I was no good.  Think I'll do better with a clearer 
mind and more help from rehab when I ask for it.  i'll try that IPhone 
reference.  I mostly use braille with my IPhone and have a display for computer 
and the IPhone so it's lovely.

   

  Eden

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 6:03 PM

Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material

 

I have the Micromedex drug database on my phone; now that I will be working 
from home it may be more useful.  I could not manage two sets of ears.  I also 
found a psychology term book recently but have not really used it.  

 

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Eden Kizer
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 3:24 PM
To: ViPhone@googlegroups.com
Subject: medical transcription reference material

 

I attempted to do this years ago, but I just was not in a state of being 
where I could totally commit to learning transcription, but now that I am, one 
of the things I was wondering about is has having IPhones made some of the 
reference materials more accessible?  Of course, one can go simply go online, 
but when you are transcribing, I would imagine it would seem easier to be able 
to look up something quickly on your phone without googling something.  I was 
just wondering if any medical transcriptionists were on the list, and are you 
using any IPhone apps or other types of references like this?  I use Windows 
for my computer, but like i said, I thought this might help keep the computer 
less cluttered while transcribing.  A lot of the compter reference materials 
seem to be hogs. You may contact me offlist.  Thanks.

 

Eden

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Re: medical transcription reference material

[Eden Kizer]

I have heard it can be used by itself with Dragon, but that it is iffy because 
it doesn't repeat back what you edited.  There is a place called 
www.hartgenconsultancy.com 
which makes a program that works JAWS and Dragon together so that it does give 
feedback.  I have heard mixed reviews on the product, but the demonstration 
seems like it works.  i am not certain how well it all works, but it's good 
enough.

Someone converted a dictionary into text files which I put on my braille sense, 
and they are done by letter.  I doubt you'd even need such a thing, but I have 
it if you need or want it.  

I am getting all my textbooks converted right now into smaller files because 
they are too large, and when I try to open them, they just gum up the computer 
or notetaker that I am using.
Eden
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 4:31 PM
  Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material


  It is the same company who owns Dragon Dictate.  How well does that work with 
JAWS, might be an easy to increase line counts if I could be sure it would 
work.  

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brent Harding
  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 12:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: medical transcription reference material

   

  Oh, is that the voice recognition thing? Or, is this a different Nuance 
company?

   

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:34 AM

Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material

 

I am currently working for a local hospital in the office but starting 
Tuesday, March 17th I will be trying Nuance, only because the hospital 
outsourced to them and will be working from home for the first time in 38 plus 
years.  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Eden Kizer
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: medical transcription reference material

 

So this one is accessible, thanks so much for responding.  Which company 
are you now working for?  I know we corresponded, but honestly with the meds I 
myself was on at the time, I was no good.  Think I'll do better with a clearer 
mind and more help from rehab when I ask for it.  i'll try that IPhone 
reference.  I mostly use braille with my IPhone and have a display for computer 
and the IPhone so it's lovely.

 

Eden

  - Original Message - 

  From: Rose Combs 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 6:03 PM

  Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material

   

  I have the Micromedex drug database on my phone; now that I will be 
working from home it may be more useful.  I could not manage two sets of ears.  
I also found a psychology term book recently but have not really used it.  

   

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eden Kizer
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 3:24 PM
  To: ViPhone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: medical transcription reference material

   

  I attempted to do this years ago, but I just was not in a state of being 
where I could totally commit to learning transcription, but now that I am, one 
of the things I was wondering about is has having IPhones made some of the 
reference materials more accessible?  Of course, one can go simply go online, 
but when you are transcribing, I would imagine it would seem easier to be able 
to look up something quickly on your phone without googling something.  I was 
just wondering if any medical transcriptionists were on the list, and are you 
using any IPhone apps or other types of references like this?  I use Windows 
for my computer, but like i said, I thought this might help keep the computer 
less cluttered while transcribing.  A lot of the compter reference materials 
seem to be hogs. You may contact me offlist.  Thanks.

   

  Eden

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[Eden Kizer]

I had been writing some to someone on the list, and I did not realize we were 
still communicating about irrelevant stuff to this list, and it was going to 
the list anyway.  My apologies for that, and I'll be more careful in the future.

Eden

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medical transcription reference material

[Eden Kizer]

I attempted to do this years ago, but I just was not in a state of being where 
I could totally commit to learning transcription, but now that I am, one of the 
things I was wondering about is has having IPhones made some of the reference 
materials more accessible?  Of course, one can go simply go online, but when 
you are transcribing, I would imagine it would seem easier to be able to look 
up something quickly on your phone without googling something.  I was just 
wondering if any medical transcriptionists were on the list, and are you using 
any IPhone apps or other types of references like this?  I use Windows for my 
computer, but like i said, I thought this might help keep the computer less 
cluttered while transcribing.  A lot of the compter reference materials seem to 
be hogs. You may contact me offlist.  Thanks.

Eden

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Re: medical transcription reference material

[Eden Kizer]

So this one is accessible, thanks so much for responding.  Which company are 
you now working for?  I know we corresponded, but honestly with the meds I 
myself was on at the time, I was no good.  Think I'll do better with a clearer 
mind and more help from rehab when I ask for it.  i'll try that IPhone 
reference.  I mostly use braille with my IPhone and have a display for computer 
and the IPhone so it's lovely.

Eden
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 6:03 PM
  Subject: RE: medical transcription reference material


  I have the Micromedex drug database on my phone; now that I will be working 
from home it may be more useful.  I could not manage two sets of ears.  I also 
found a psychology term book recently but have not really used it.  

   

   

   

  Rose Combs

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  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden Kizer
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 3:24 PM
  To: ViPhone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: medical transcription reference material

   

  I attempted to do this years ago, but I just was not in a state of being 
where I could totally commit to learning transcription, but now that I am, one 
of the things I was wondering about is has having IPhones made some of the 
reference materials more accessible?  Of course, one can go simply go online, 
but when you are transcribing, I would imagine it would seem easier to be able 
to look up something quickly on your phone without googling something.  I was 
just wondering if any medical transcriptionists were on the list, and are you 
using any IPhone apps or other types of references like this?  I use Windows 
for my computer, but like i said, I thought this might help keep the computer 
less cluttered while transcribing.  A lot of the compter reference materials 
seem to be hogs. You may contact me offlist.  Thanks.

   

  Eden

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comcast Iphone app

[Eden Kizer]

Hello, I am a new comcast customer, i was talking a little aoubt the TV 
guide thing which is not the app, but I also have the remote app.  The 
search feature on it would let me voice search last night but not today, 
and I reinstalled, made sure mike was turned on and it kept saying there 
was a problem with your voice search.  Does anyone have experience with 
hthis, can't I search with my stupid iOS device keyboard it doesn't seem 
so and even if you can, the IPhone doesn't tell you what is showing up 
on your TV screen. The TV talking guide sometimes works to tell me this, 
but as everyone nows, that's still in beta so I am just trying to make 
these apps work. Everyone at comcast says their stuff is so accessible 
and have an accessibility line, but everyone I talk to is just reading 
the same manual I can, and none of them are blind so I am feeling lost.  
If someone can help, i'd be very very appreciative.


I am going to do a podcast review of their services so I want to make 
sure I give an accurate representation as to how well something works.  
I want to make sure the issues I am having are not mine alone or find 
out how to fix them so I can write a review that accurately reflects its 
usability as I've seen numerous people write inaccurate ones mostly 
saying things are not accessible when they are.  In this case, i am 
being told by the company it's accessible, but I am having trouble.  The 
comcast TV app seems to work fine, but the remote one is somebody's idea 
of a joke so far.


Eden

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bard ap and bluetooth keyboard or braille display

[Eden Kizer]

I want to download books from my wish list all I can see is table index 
it's like nothing is there, but I have 51 items in my list. Which 
braille display commands or bluetooth keyboard commands do I use to 
access these books?  I have done it 3 times, but I have obviously done 
something wrong or the new iOS update has fubarred it.  Anyway, please help.


Eden

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Comcast app plus a little off topic with talking guide

[Eden Kizer]

Hi, i am putting comcast back in my home later this morning after dismal 
service from Centurylink.  I am getting Comcast cable.  How accessible 
is this app, can you control the box with it, and/or have people found 
the talking guide easier to use.  I would appreciate any tutorials or 
guidance on the comcast app and the remote options if people using the 
app also has access to that info.  I can not locate a podcast or 
tutorial on this one at all either for the talking part of the box or 
the talking app part, and even if all buttons are labelled, it might not 
be easy to igure out how to navigate, keep in mind i will be using a 
bluetooth keyboard or braille display so sometimes double tapping and 
holding can be difficult unless someone has a workaround.


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braille sense on hand 8.1.2 a problem

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I used to could enter my ITunes password with no problem, I would 
tap the cursor above the edit field, and then I would attempt to type 
having grade II turned on which used to work I tried it the other way 
too no go can't enter with my braille sense, I can navigate my screen 
perfectly, it's only entering text that is a problem.  I can deal with 
this with most things using dictation or a bluetooth keyboard, but I am 
not sure you can dictate a password nor how to say like cap a letter 
then not cap some and such.  I have always found entering text with the 
display more cumbersome than the bluettooth keyboard, but I still prefer 
to use the sense only if I can get away with it for most tasks so 
disappointed and wondering why I can no longer do this.


Eden

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Re: SlingPlayer Accessibility in IOS 8

[Eden Kizer]

i need the player controls used from the bluetooth keyboard, how do I 
get around this app I tried with the braille display that did't work 
great, but I do have the bluetooth keyboard now.  Running latest iOS thanks.


Eden

On 1/2/2015 2:48 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote:


Hello all:

I am writing about SlingPlayer accessibility. While playing with my 
iPad running IOS 8, I noticed a difference in the level of access 
between my iPhone 5 running IOS 7 and the iPad with SlingPlayer 
running IOS 8. on IOS 7, the programmatic names of the buttons such as 
the labels for remote and the channel numbers are read by VoiceOver. 
Not so on IOS 8. Has anyone found work-arounds for this?


I would appreciate any assistance that another lister can provide.

Regards,

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filling up IPhone

[Eden Kizer]

Wel, i have a problem, how do i get downcast to delete podcasts or will 
it imeediately do so after I am done.  I also notice spotify has a lot 
of stuff and all I did was save stuff to my library, but it didn't say 
download, but yet it says I have almost a gig in skype, what i mean is 
will i need to go within each applicattion to delete things, and I am 
trying to stream spotify and downcast stuff not to download it.  Is 
there a way to see all the files too because I think there might be some 
things converting into my Itunes that I didn't even want there.  Is 
there a way to look at and delete individual media files on my phone 
itself or does this have to be done in ITunes?  I just don't want to 
suddenly not have room, only like 5.5 megs is taken up by ITunes stuff 
that I downloaded, but yet I only have 2.5 left to put stuff in so I 
need to try to figure out how to get some of this stuff from all these 
programs out.  Thanks.


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google now

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, how do I create these card things, I have a google account, but I 
really have no clue all the things I can do with it as I often dfound 
the website unwieldy.  I see a lot about these cards and things, but 
wonder how much ok google can really do on an iOS device, what are 
others opinions, and what can I actually customize and do with the 
IPhone, and what is tit in your opinions worth using for as opposed to 
Siri?  I want to make the most use oout of both of my assistants, thanks.


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Re: KNFB Reader

[Eden Kizer]

I don't know it might not be over for the West coast yet as it's not 
midnight here yet, but I can't confirm since already bought so sorry.


Eden
On 12/25/2014 10:39 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:

Hi, the sales finished yesterday, 25 december. It is now back to $99.95.



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On 26 Dec 2014, at 17:02, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
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Hi all
Changed subject and started a new thread.
While the KNFB Reader came out on or shortly after iOS 8 day, it took me till 
Christmas to get it. I was patient like anybody else. I thought Christmas was 
the right time to get it plus it was on sale at about half price. I'm going to 
try and have a go with it today or over the weekend to get the codes for my 
various gift cards I received as presents yesterday.

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iTunes gift card deals, anyone?

[Eden Kizer]

Well, since the KNFB Reader is on sale, I was also hoping to find an 
ITunes gift card to make this purchase even lower.  I think I am out of 
luck but thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.


Eden

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Re: iTunes gift card deals, anyone?

[Eden Kizer]

Yes, well, this person has harassed me on every list I am on and no 
moderator does anything about it so what's the use?  Some people will 
just harass and lie about you, no problem, I know where the spam button is.

On 12/23/2014 7:36 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Um Please take your poison elsewhere. No, I'm not the moderator, 
but that's just mean.


Teresa

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Not for you, no. Pay back the debts you owe and then maybe you won't
be concerned about 'finding' money to pay for apps that are apparently
too expensive for you. Good luck with your future.

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Well, since the KNFB Reader is on sale, I was also hoping to find an
ITunes gift card to make this purchase even lower.  I think I am out of
luck but thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

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recording room audio

[Eden Kizer]

Well I know I can make reminders, i know I can make a video, but maybe I 
am missing something, but for instance, I just want to record what's 
going on in this room, and I have no other recorder so was wondering 
about this.  It won't be talking so dictate won't work, i want to prove 
to my boyfriend he snores so do i need to use some recording ap or is 
there a native app that can do this, thanks?


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posting to twitter and facebook

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I hear you can post to twitter or facebook using siri, but I tried, 
and it said twitter wasn't set up, I have twitterific, and I tried 
putting it in my contacts.  does this mean I have to set these things up 
in the native twitter app and facebook app?  Or am I incorrect and siri 
won't do this on the fly?  Sometimes, like last night, I didn't have 
time to go into twitterific and post.  Thanks.


Eden

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Re: posting to twitter and facebook

[Eden Kizer]

That was what I needed to know if I had to do this in settings, so thanks.

Eden
On 12/10/2014 9:53 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote:

Yes you can have you tryed going to settings and then go to twitter and then 
signing in with your user name and password?

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote:

Ok, I hear you can post to twitter or facebook using siri, but I tried, and it 
said twitter wasn't set up, I have twitterific, and I tried putting it in my 
contacts.  does this mean I have to set these things up in the native twitter 
app and facebook app?  Or am I incorrect and siri won't do this on the fly?  
Sometimes, like last night, I didn't have time to go into twitterific and post. 
 Thanks.

Eden

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braille device questoin

[Eden Kizer]

I am using a Braile Sense on hand.  I notice my bluetooth keyboard has 
direct inpus for fast forward, rewind and such, and I also can stop and 
start music with f4.  I assume there is no start and stopping music 
command on braille displays on the fly, is there? Thanks for any help.


Eden

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computer speakers

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I want a pair of speakers that can fit on my desktop, that I can use 
to play stuff on my IPhone or my computer such as by a jack for either 
device.  My current computer speakers don't do this.  I want something 
with a fair amount of wattage, good range, volume knob, preferably base 
knob changes, and I want something that is good sound, but I really 
prefer not over $200 and preferably less, but I am looking for something 
decent.  I have Logitech 320 or something right now, but they don't have 
a very full sound in my opinion, it all kind of sounds flat.  Any help 
here.  I am not looking for a bluettooth connected pair, just ones that  
will let me connect them to my computer and IPhone.


Eden

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Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

[Eden Kizer]

I actually know for a fact my family doesn't find it annoying.  I can 
read braile faster than they can read to me.  It is a personal 
preference, and everyone's family is different, but don't presume to 
tell me how mine would react, please, as you don't know my family any 
more than I know yours.


Eden
On 12/8/2014 7:10 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:

Eden I must disagree with you. If your family can read and don't have
a problem reading a menu for you, I think that they will find it
annoying having to wait for you to make a decision long after they
have read the menu.

On 12/8/14, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

I fully agree with your message below. Being independent is one thing, but
being practical is another thing. If people can find the right balance
between practicality and independence then that is the best for everyone.
For example, just because I can do something a certain way doesn't mean it's
always the best way to do that certain way. If I am with someone and they
have offered to help me go over the menu, it's going to be more time
efficient to let that happen that way instead of me taking a picture of the
menu of each page and then deciding what I want after they have already
decided 10 minutes ago. To me being independent is figuring out the most
practical and efficient way of getting the job done.




On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Eden,

Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use KNFB
Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what they
want and then wait to see if you get a good result?
I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an
elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I
don't have to push the correct button just because it has braille if
others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can
just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a restaurant
menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to use KNFB for
this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, but usually
choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes a
conversation anyways and I don't feel that anybody thinks I am not
independent just because they are reading this information for me.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eden Kizer
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people
liking KNFB reader?

We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I can
easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to
where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think
look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't
have the correct menu listed.

I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my
independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu with
them.

eden
On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is
not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call.
You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your
table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing?  Hey, look what I
can do, folks?  Isn't that cool??  You are, in actuality, being more
independent.

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- Original Message -
From: Andy Baracco
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don't like the idea of
holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu,
or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go
to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus.

Andy

From: SSEric
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Besides those who don't mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind
putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical
to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the
speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and
quality.

Thanks!

Eric


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper
documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS
7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr

Re: iBug phone conference hosted by me tonight

[Eden Kizer]

So this is a local thing so not for all of us, right, just checking on that.

Eden

On 12/8/2014 3:33 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi all. I mentioned before that there is a local iOS group which meets in
the Houston area. Every Monday night we have a phone conference and tonight,
yours truly gets to host it. It starts at 7:30 PM Central Time and so I'm
asking my fellow VIPhone list members to come join if you get a chance. You
can call either by phone or by using the Free Conference Call app. Just do a
search in the App Store for Free Conference Call and it should be the first
one found. Once installed the app name shows up as FCC on your home screen.
Regardless of whether you call via the Internet using the app, or from a
cell or landline, the number is 712-432-0111 and access code is 154497. The
web site for all iBug things is www.ibugtoday.com and the twitter user name
is @ibugtoday. We also have a Facebook group called ibug today. The url for
that is www.facebook.com/groups/ibugtoday.

Well, that's about it. Take care and hope to see some of you there. In case
you can't make these conference calls, they are recorded for later review.
Just go to www.ibugtoday.com and you can get them from there.

Cheers.



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Re: iBug phone conference hosted by me tonight

[Eden Kizer]

I figured you wouldn't have posted it there if this was the case, but it 
always does to double check when you are uncertain.


Eden
On 12/8/2014 3:40 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hello Eden. The group is local to Houston, but that's just for the local 
face-to-face meetings. The phone conferences are for everyone all over the 
world. So is the web site and most importantly, the information shared.

So, you and everyone else from this list are welcome. Otherwise I would not 
have posted it here. *smile*.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden Kizer
Sent: December 08, 2014 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iBug phone conference hosted by me tonight

So this is a local thing so not for all of us, right, just checking on that.

Eden

On 12/8/2014 3:33 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi all. I mentioned before that there is a local iOS group which meets
in the Houston area. Every Monday night we have a phone conference and
tonight, yours truly gets to host it. It starts at 7:30 PM Central
Time and so I'm asking my fellow VIPhone list members to come join if
you get a chance. You can call either by phone or by using the Free
Conference Call app. Just do a search in the App Store for Free
Conference Call and it should be the first one found. Once installed the app 
name shows up as FCC on your home screen.
Regardless of whether you call via the Internet using the app, or from
a cell or landline, the number is 712-432-0111 and access code is
154497. The web site for all iBug things is www.ibugtoday.com and the
twitter user name is @ibugtoday. We also have a Facebook group called
ibug today. The url for that is www.facebook.com/groups/ibugtoday.

Well, that's about it. Take care and hope to see some of you there. In
case you can't make these conference calls, they are recorded for later review.
Just go to www.ibugtoday.com and you can get them from there.

Cheers.


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Re: iBug phone conference hosted by me tonight

[Eden Kizer]

I am really glad I found the IBug site, I love having tech meetings, and 
we weren't having enough on the IPhone lol.


Eden
On 12/8/2014 3:40 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hello Eden. The group is local to Houston, but that's just for the local 
face-to-face meetings. The phone conferences are for everyone all over the 
world. So is the web site and most importantly, the information shared.

So, you and everyone else from this list are welcome. Otherwise I would not 
have posted it here. *smile*.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden Kizer
Sent: December 08, 2014 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iBug phone conference hosted by me tonight

So this is a local thing so not for all of us, right, just checking on that.

Eden

On 12/8/2014 3:33 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi all. I mentioned before that there is a local iOS group which meets
in the Houston area. Every Monday night we have a phone conference and
tonight, yours truly gets to host it. It starts at 7:30 PM Central
Time and so I'm asking my fellow VIPhone list members to come join if
you get a chance. You can call either by phone or by using the Free
Conference Call app. Just do a search in the App Store for Free
Conference Call and it should be the first one found. Once installed the app 
name shows up as FCC on your home screen.
Regardless of whether you call via the Internet using the app, or from
a cell or landline, the number is 712-432-0111 and access code is
154497. The web site for all iBug things is www.ibugtoday.com and the
twitter user name is @ibugtoday. We also have a Facebook group called
ibug today. The url for that is www.facebook.com/groups/ibugtoday.

Well, that's about it. Take care and hope to see some of you there. In
case you can't make these conference calls, they are recorded for later review.
Just go to www.ibugtoday.com and you can get them from there.

Cheers.


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Re: iBug phone conference hosted by me tonight

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, where will we enter a host name or what do we enter, I mean it says 
start call and a couple of other tabs, um what do I do?

Eden

On 12/8/2014 3:40 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hello Eden. The group is local to Houston, but that's just for the local 
face-to-face meetings. The phone conferences are for everyone all over the 
world. So is the web site and most importantly, the information shared.

So, you and everyone else from this list are welcome. Otherwise I would not 
have posted it here. *smile*.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden Kizer
Sent: December 08, 2014 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iBug phone conference hosted by me tonight

So this is a local thing so not for all of us, right, just checking on that.

Eden

On 12/8/2014 3:33 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi all. I mentioned before that there is a local iOS group which meets
in the Houston area. Every Monday night we have a phone conference and
tonight, yours truly gets to host it. It starts at 7:30 PM Central
Time and so I'm asking my fellow VIPhone list members to come join if
you get a chance. You can call either by phone or by using the Free
Conference Call app. Just do a search in the App Store for Free
Conference Call and it should be the first one found. Once installed the app 
name shows up as FCC on your home screen.
Regardless of whether you call via the Internet using the app, or from
a cell or landline, the number is 712-432-0111 and access code is
154497. The web site for all iBug things is www.ibugtoday.com and the
twitter user name is @ibugtoday. We also have a Facebook group called
ibug today. The url for that is www.facebook.com/groups/ibugtoday.

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Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

[Eden Kizer]

We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I 
can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly 
to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they 
think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants 
don't have the correct menu listed.


I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my 
independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu 
with them.


eden
On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes 
is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone 
call.  You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those 
at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing?  Hey, 
look what I can do, folks?  Isn't that cool??  You are, in actuality, 
being more independent.


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- Original Message -
*From:* Andy Baracco mailto:w...@socal.rr.com
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM
*Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea
of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a
Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my
time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone
apps like All Access Menus.
Andy
*From:* SSEric mailto:sseri...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?

Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or
mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it
really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am
wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which
can vary widely in format and quality.

Thanks!

Eric



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper
documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5
running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is.



Alan Lemly


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com
mailto:paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:


All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift
cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know
if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and
what things have worked well and what things have not?

Thank you.

Paul

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recording youtube videos

[Eden Kizer]

I have some products that have nothing to do with blindness and people 
would probably want to see them.  It has been suggested to me that I can 
not make a decent youtube vid from my IPhone, I would like to know how 
this is not the case when others have said the IPhone 5 has a better 
camera than some regular cameras.  Others are saying I need a point and 
shoot camera.  Keep in mind, I am not doing something professional, it 
is a hobby to review certain things I buy, show what it looks like, but 
I don't want to show my face mostly because I move a lot and that would 
detract from my presentation.  I would do just audio, but I doubt the 
sighted part of my audience would apreciate this.  Comments, am I better 
using a point and shoot camera hooking to my computer or can I do an 
adequate one on my IPhone.


Eden

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recording videos addendum

[Eden Kizer]

Someone said just use the videos app to make the vids, and what program 
should I use to upload to youtube.  I know most of you aren't sighted, 
but what have others said to you about the quality? i wil be recording 
in a stable area, not moving around, controlled environment.


Eden

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Iblink radio and SamNet

[Eden Kizer]

I have a SAMNet membership and have been using the described content, 
but then it just started throwing me out every time I get into the 
entertainment folder, VO would just stop speaking nothing, I have to 
lock my screen and unlock it, and then I am back in the home screen and 
when I go back into the ap, it's back at the login to samnet, but I know 
I get in because it shows the home screen for SAMNet.  i just needed to 
know if this is a common problem or something new.  Already thinking of 
canceling, and i don't need software with this kind of problem.


Eden

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Re: Iblink radio and SamNet

[Eden Kizer]

Yes, it could, but I was just wondering if anyone is having tis problem. 
The website is fine but the mobile app was acting very weird thrwoing me 
out and such not out of IBlink radio just out of the SAMNet part.


Eden
On 12/4/2014 6:16 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I wonder if the recent announcement about Sertotek losing 5 key people has 
something to do with this.
Here is the announcement from their web site from November 22nd:
Revving Up for the Road Ahead


Serotek Team - November 22, 2014 - 9:00am

Serotek is undergoing some changes to better meet your needs as a digital 
consumer. The assistive technology industry has been shifting for a while now, 
and it would be foolish to believe yesterday’s formula will continue to work in 
today’s age of wearable technology, smart homes, and interconnected media.

Understandably, there may be questions about the longevity of the products and 
services you have come to rely on. For years Serotek has thought outside the 
box to deliver the most affordable solutions with the best customer and product 
support, and there are no plans to reverse this pattern of innovation to meet 
you where you need us.

You may also be wondering about the future of the SeroTalk Podcast Network, 
arguably one of the leading content providers on all things technology. There 
is a time to cover headlines, and there is a time to create them. As long as 
the community remains interested, SPN will evolve alongside its parent company. 
For now, we have to deal with the reality of blunt, but truthful, comments such 
as that left by one loyal customer who wondered if we were finally going to 
stop socializing on the podcasts and finally get back to product development.

Given the number of conflicting rumors surrounding the popular platform, the 
story is this: Ownership of SPN was offered to Joe Steinkamp and Ricky Enger 
under a highly attractive earn-out formula. Serotek offered to continue 
financing the website, podcast, and production and platform hosting required to 
maintain a consistent user experience. Serotek is aware of the value they 
provided to the community. Unfortunately, they elected not to accept this 
offer. The Serotek team has no doubt Joe and Ricky will be a valuable asset to 
the community in other capacities and wish them all the best in their new 
endeavors.

Our goals were not to eliminate people, but rather, to realign the company 
structure and shift company functions that are hindering growth, steps that 
were required to keep Serotek from becoming one more casualty of the new 
landscape. It is unfortunate that three other teammates abruptly opted to 
follow other directions, but we respect their choices and also wish them the 
absolute best in whatever they pursue.

Change is sometimes a scary prospect. Yet change moved us away from the cell 
phone to the smart phone, from the TV to the tablet, and from yesterday’s 
computer to today’s cloud. We’re working hard to keep you in the middle of it, 
where you belong. Contrary to competing rumors, Serotek is not down for the 
count. We’re squarely in your corner and ready to meet the next phase with the 
same fervor we’re well known for.

Stay tuned. The best is on its way, and you are going to be a part of it.

From:
http://www.serotek.com/blog_revving_up_for_the_road_ahead

Richard


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Eden Kizer
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iblink radio and SamNet

I have a SAMNet membership and have been using the described content,
but then it just started throwing me out every time I get into the
entertainment folder, VO would just stop speaking nothing, I have to
lock my screen and unlock it, and then I am back in the home screen and
when I go back into the ap, it's back at the login to samnet, but I know
I get in because it shows the home screen for SAMNet.  i just needed to
know if this is a common problem or something new.  Already thinking of
canceling, and i don't need software with this kind of problem.

Eden



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weather stuff

[Eden Kizer]

My weather is usually accurate, but this morning it is 9 degrees off, is 
there something more accurate than the regular weather, and if so, is 
there a way I can get that to pop up instead?  also, is there a way to 
tell temp inside like is there an app for that, too, thanks.


Eden

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Re: weather stuff

[Eden Kizer]

What ever comes with the weather app on IPhone, sorry if I wasn't more 
specific.


Eden
On 12/2/2014 7:50 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:

What is your weather source, and on what kind of device?

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- Original Message - From: Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:31 AM
Subject: weather stuff


My weather is usually accurate, but this morning it is 9 degrees off, is
there something more accurate than the regular weather, and if so, is
there a way I can get that to pop up instead?  also, is there a way to
tell temp inside like is there an app for that, too, thanks.

Eden



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Re: Online banking and iOS app support

[Eden Kizer]

This Chase ap, how do I get an online account with them to do this, I 
mean all I know is my account number as I've never used online banking.  
I did not like the cumbersomeness of it on a computer and JAWS always 
saying a bunch of graphical nonsense and so much clutter, I find the 
Idevice less cluttered for these things, and I'm tired of calling the 
number every other day.


Eden
On 12/1/2014 1:46 PM, RobH. wrote:

I keep thinking about banking like this,  but still nervous of the security
aspect as this is prime target for malware/hackers.

But Net only?  EGG used to do this over here, not sure they still do;  web
only, or call centre if you must,  in India.  They know there job and have
very tightly controlled scripts;  the greatest frustration is trying to get
human to human responses out of them.
Mrs was with them a while, a hsort while, which pretty well says it all.

RobH.

- Original Message -
From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Online banking and iOS app support


Regarding online banking: what you are talking about is offerred by
many of the banks people have mentioned. I have not heard of a bank
which only operates online, though I wouldn't be surprised if one
existed. I don't know if the online bank would exist very well in
our society since most people like the option of going to a physical
location and talking to someone if an issue or concern comes up. Or,
if they simply want to deal with a real person. Most of the major
banks and credit unions have online banking services, such as Chase,
Wells-Fargo, Bank of America, and many others. I use Chase and I have
had no issues with their app. I can even transfer money between
accounts in the Chase app. I used to call the toll free number for
Chase once or twice a day to hear my balance and other information.
Now, I open the app. Chase offers a service where you can sign-up for
different email alerts, such as low balance alerts, when checks or
transactions clear your account, and many other kinds. This is another
way that I stay on top of my accounts.

Online banking is like Facebook: you can do as much or as little as
you want. Some banks, like Chase, offer online demonstrations so you
can see the kinds of information you would find in an account summary.
Go to your bank's site and see if you can find something like this.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 11/19/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

For what it's worth you can always download the banks app and play
with it even though you don't have an account. It won't tell you all
but will help a bit.

On 11/19/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

Have you checked out www.applevis.com
There seems to be several reviews of online banking options.
HTH,
Richard


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it.

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Sent from my iPhone 5S




On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I'm familiar with these traditional banks and their apps. One thing
to keep in mind with USBank is that they charge you 50 cents for each
check you deposit mobiley. I just find the nickel and diming the brick
and
mortar banks to be off-putting.

Off hand, I don't recall the last time I had to physically go into a
bank
about an issue. This is why my interest in an online bank alternative.

They're all going to more or less do the same thing. I was just curious
as
to the iOS accessibility with their apps since they're not going to be
as
big as the more well-known banks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Online banking and iOS app support

Hi,
The US Bank app is quite accessible.  I only use it for checking our
Visa
card, but I suspect all the other features are equally accessible.
The Bank of America app is completely accessible.  You can take a
picture
of a check and deposit it, but if you have no vision, you have to make
sure and figure out which is the front and back and whether it is upside
down or not.
I've not heard much about Wells Fargo's app, but since you have an
account
with them, you probably should check it out.
I know nothing about the various online banking companies.  I personally
prefer to deal with a company that if there is a real issue, I can go
into
a physical office and talk with a manager.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Online banking and iOS app support

Hello list,

So I need to open a small business checking account. I could go with
either USBank or Wells Fargo as I already have accounts with them, but
I've been thinking of just going the online bank rout. I was curious of

Re: Realtime Translation on Facebook and Twitter?

[Eden Kizer]

Speaking of translation apps, what is the best one you've found?  I have 
been trying google, but either I can't set the languages right or I am 
not understanding how it's to be done.  If replying, remember I am using 
a bluettooth keyboard to get around right now.


Eden
On 11/30/2014 11:09 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Hi, all,Is there an app that will translate Facebook posts and tweets? 
If not, is there a translate setting in either app?


Thanks,
Teresa

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seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

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Re: Authy

[Eden Kizer]

what is aufie.  I've never heard of this.
On 11/25/2014 8:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I so far setup just my Dropbox account and I scanned the QR code from my 
laptop's screen which worked quite well.


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Wayne Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Authy

Hi. I got the Authy app. Please explain how you enable Authy with
other services, like Gmail and Twitter. Do I need to manually enter my
account information or just put in the 12 to 16 digit authentication
code for each service?

Thanks,
Wayne

On 11/21/14, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi all
So you may ask what is Authy? It's an app for your device that makes two
factor verification very easy. Take a look here
www.authy.com
Also, take a look at the app's entry here
www.applevis.com
and search for Authy.
I have it here and seems quite accessible with VoiceOver although in
some cases I had to explore the screen by touch because swiping left or
right yielded nothing.

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audioboom tutorial

[Eden Kizer]

I thought someone said there was a podcast on using this app, but I 
can't find it, does anyone know a tutorial thanks or is it just really 
so simple I don't need one.


Eden

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reading and writing blogs

[Eden Kizer]

App for this, any suggestions do any work, and also I like forums can't 
think of any exact websites right now but like readit and other services 
with forums is there a good way to handle these, I don't think RSS feeds 
do forums, right, I am still new to all this, thanks.  Just reading 
forums and blogs on the web is cumbersome plus I want to write my own 
blog and attach podcasts or youtube videos.


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Re: bluetooth keyboard again

[Eden Kizer]

I see, so this is not just me, ok then.  Sigh, I just won't be able to 
use my phone much now then until my braille display comes back as it 
doesn't have this problem, and I can never find the dictate button on 
the phone either.  I'm just not a good IPhone user without my braile device.


Eden
On 11/24/2014 12:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

If that doesn't work, power your phone off. Then power it back on.
Chances are that will fix the problem for a while.
Also, please report the double letters to:
accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accessibil...@apple.com

Several people are having the same issue.
Richard


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On Nov 23, 2014, at 11:40 PM, christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Try turning Quicknav off before entering text. When done turn 
Quicknav back on to continue navigation. FYI Quicknav on/off is 
left-right arrows together.
On 24 Nov 2014, at 07:33, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net 
mailto:eden...@centurylink.net wrote:


Everytime I enter letters on my bluetooth keyboard, it repeats them 
and it seems like it enters characters I didn't want, what am I 
doing wrong?


Eden

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so um have you actually tried turning it off and back on

[Eden Kizer]

Well, my keyboard issue is fixed.  I feel like an idiot, no more double 
letters, wow, it's like so amazing what can happen when you stop and 
restart both your phone and bluetooth keyboard.  give me the dumb award, 
please.


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twitter

[Eden Kizer]

well, my windows twitter client wich met my needs appears to be broken 
for the moment so please tell me an iOS program that will meet my 
needs.  I want it nice and laid out, uncomplicated, please.


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Re: twitter

[Eden Kizer]

Already done.  I just know that even if it's something I might have to 
do again, it's something I should have thought to do in the first 
place.  same thing with my computer, programs acting up this morning, i 
restart it, and it's fine. One of those days.


Eden
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Actually, you don't deserve the dumb award. You will find at some 
point you will get double letters again and will have to turn off the 
phone and turn it back on again to clear the issue.
Please report this to Apple Accessibility so they know it is happening 
to more people.

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well, my windows twitter client wich met my needs appears to be 
broken for the moment so please tell me an iOS program that will meet 
my needs.  I want it nice and laid out, uncomplicated, please.


Eden

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twitterific and such

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, first of all, if I want to post to twitter like using Siri, when I 
enter my twitter name in my contacts do I use the @ sign?  Also, I 
notice it diedn't say money, but it sounded like their might be in-app 
purchases, do you know what that is for?


Eden

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Re: downcast or overcast

[Eden Kizer]

I like downcast so far good ease of use, also enjoying lire and 
twitterific, learning all kinds of good new aps.


i don't want to, but I need to make folders, which things from the home 
screen can I actually move.  Most things I just open with Siri, but I 
like my interesting apps to be on my first page, but I know you can't 
move ones in the dock, but what about the rest of them? And when I move 
it like say to second page, how do I make it just go on the second page 
and not try to create a folder with another app?


Eden
On 11/24/2014 7:34 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

I think you can do a keyword search for podcasts in both apps. The big
difference for me between Downcast and Overcast is that with Downcast,
you pay up front and get all of the features available. Overcast is
free, but you pay an in-app purchase of about $4 or $5 to unlock all
of the features that Downcast includes by default. I think Downcast is
a buck or two cheaper if that matters. Anyway, Downcast meets all of
my needs so I haven't made the switch. I also like that I can do a
keyword search or look at top podcasts in different categories in
Downcast. Overcast may do this too, I don't know.

Wayne

On 11/24/14, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:

Overcast is ok, but still needs a way to go. It's a more simple layout.
Voiceover at least with my iPhone 5 is not as snappy though it can be
considered a fully accessible app. Downcast for me, just offers a lot more
options.

The one plus that Overcast does have over Downcast in my opinion is that it
can play files at the 3x speed. While Downcast has this option, it hasn't'
worked for quite a few updates now. Playback begins to skip at this level in
Downcast making it unusable. I've written the dev about it and even though
he says it's on his list of bugs to fix, it's never been addressed in any of
the numerous updates since the skipping first started. Doubt it will be
fixed at this point.





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On Nov 23, 2014, at 8:53 PM, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote:

Ok, I know both of these are supposed to be accessible, can someone tel me
differences.I am wondering which one will let you search more and really
show yu by categories and would there be any way to search for IPhone
related podcasts or for blindness-related podcasts.  Thanks.

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Re: twitterific and such

[Eden Kizer]

I think I went right past the purchase how do I go back to ability to 
purchase.


Eden
On 11/24/2014 8:10 AM, Merv Keck wrote:


Hi,

Twitterific has several flavors and the in app purchase is for the 
full version that has a full set of features. It is only about a 
dollar more US and it is well worth having for iPhone users. They are 
very responsive to blind customers and the app is very user friendly. 
I love Chicken Nugget, however, sometimes I find myself using 
Twitterific since updating to Jaws sixteen just because my laptop with 
six gigs of ram and a hybrid drive on windows 7 64 bit tends to take 
too long to type out tweets during a particularly busy time of day 
such as Sunday afternoons or Monday evenings.


When you download Twitterific the first time it tells you what the 
extra cost will get you and offers you the opportunity to purchase or 
continue.


Hope that helps,

Merv

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Re: twitter

[Eden Kizer]

Well, I haven't paid for the features in twitterific yet, and i odn't 
even know what they are.  I am hearing I may like tweetlist better 
because you can comment on tweets easier and use shortening urls for 
longer tweets which I havve a habit of doing.  Is tweetlist a paid app, 
and what features does twitterific offer if you pay?


Eden
On 11/24/2014 9:42 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
Hi Wayne, I'm with you on Tweetlist. I really do want to like 
Twitterific because of how often it's updated, but it has some crazy 
quirks. I make extensive use of lists, and reading in chronological 
order with Twitterific is still problematic in terms of loading more 
tweets and being put in the right place. Also when you send a URL to 
Instapaper from Twitterific, it just sends the URL, not the article, 
meaning you have to go through the inconvenience of opening the 
article, then sending it to Instapaper from that screen. Why on earth 
the Twitterific people think there is any value in sending just the 
URL to a read later service, I have no clue.
So while I'm concerned that Tweetlist seems to have been abandoned, 
it's working at the moment and meets my needs better than anything 
else I've yet found.

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TweetList 4 works well, though it does cost about $4.99. It hasn't
been updated in about a year but I use it often on my iPhone 6. the
native Twitter app an Twitterrific 5 also work well. Twitterrific 5 is
very popular on this list and also costs, about the same as TweetList,
but it seems that updates are released more regularly for it and
there's lots of VoiceOver support.

Wayne

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Actually, you don't deserve the dumb award. You will find at some 
point you
will get double letters again and will have to turn off the phone 
and turn

it back on again to clear the issue.
Please report this to Apple Accessibility so they know it is 
happening to

more people.
Richard


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with it.


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Sent from my iPhone 5S



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well, my windows twitter client wich met my needs appears to be 
broken for

the moment so please tell me an iOS program that will meet my needs.  I
want it nice and laid out, uncomplicated, please.

Eden

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dictation

[Eden Kizer]

So if my bluetooth keyboard is giving me a fit during a search field, 
can I use a dictate button from the screen?  I think what my question is 
can I show keyboard, will that give me the dictate button back or does 
just having another device hooked up negate dictation?  Thanks.


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Re: dictation

[Eden Kizer]

Right, thanks, i didn't know that would get the dictate button back, but 
this should work the same if I use the eject button on my bluetooth 
keyboard, right?  thanks.


Edden
On 11/24/2014 12:46 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
In an edit field, such as a search field, you can use dots 1-4-6 to 
toggle the on-screen keyboard. The dictate button should be just to 
the left of the space bar. If you don't find it, go to settings, 
general, keyboard and make sure it's enabled.


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So if my bluetooth keyboard is giving me a fit during a search field, 
can I use a dictate button from the screen?  I think what my question 
is can I show keyboard, will that give me the dictate button back or 
does just having another device hooked up negate dictation?  Thanks.


Eden

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Re: THE DOUBLE LETTERS ETC WITH THE APPLE KEYBOARD

[Eden Kizer]

It seems to be working for now, and i did contact accessibility, but a 
quick fix is to turn off and on and obviously to make sure to turn off 
quick nav before you enter the text field.  of course, this is from the 
total newbie here.


Eden
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Like others, I've discovered I'm now smitten with the problem when 
wanting to use the Apple keyboard and have tonight contacted the 
Accessability Team about this.  I do hope others will do the same as 
it's really a nasty one for those of us who rely so heavily on our 
Apple keyboards.
I am also finding that it's difficult to get into the edit field and 
write a message.  I didn't see this problem when first I upgraded but, 
once I'd had the problem of getting into and writing in the text 
fields, I then started to get double letters.

A quick fix on this one, please, Apple Tech!
Meantime, along with others, I'll just have to keep trying to clear 
everything and reboot.
I am glad to have seen that information on list, partly because I am 
assured that others are having the problem but also I learned of the 
only work around for now.

Carol P
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mix up of keyboard commands

[Eden Kizer]

Hi,which bluetooth keyboard command is it to move an app I forget as VO 
with M is status bar, but I have written down that moving an app is 
something with M nand not sure what this is thanks.


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Re: Answering Phone Calls

[Eden Kizer]

I don't know why, but the two finger double tap has always been hard 
even when answering calls, maybe I am putting my fingers wrong or on the 
wrong part of the screen, I do have small fingers so maybe this is the 
problem.  Not sure.


Eden
On 11/24/2014 3:58 PM, clarence carter wrote:
I notice that the two finger double tap is not as reliable for 
answering phone calls.  Am I missing something, or did they change 
that function?




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Re: mix up of keyboard commands

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Ah, that is what I was missing sorry about that.
I forget when I make a list of key commands that you have to spell out 
the word shift because duh it's not going to show up if you try to type 
it loll.


On 11/24/2014 5:09 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

I think you want vo-shift-m for moving apps.
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Hi,which bluetooth keyboard command is it to move an app I forget as 
VO with M is status bar, but I have written down that moving an app 
is something with M nand not sure what this is thanks.


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unlocking IPhone with braille device

[Eden Kizer]

Is there a way to do this without touching the phone?  I mean it's no 
big deal to do this, but I was just reading that dot 4 can do this, but 
that doesn't seem very likely.


Eden

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correction

[Eden Kizer]

It says you can unlock with dots 1 4 not sure if aalone or with space, 
can anyone confirm if this works for unlocking as mine's in the shop.


Eden

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Re: THE DOUBLE LETTERS ETC WITH THE APPLE KEYBOARD

[Eden Kizer]

Mine is an Amazon Basics keyboard, but it does this rather randomly, and 
if I turn off phone and restart, it then works fine, but it's a major 
inconvenience.


Eden
On 11/24/2014 7:05 PM, Kerri G wrote:
I can also confirm this with the iPad mini second generation and an 
iPhone 5S and it happens with both Apple wireless keyboards I have.
On Nov 24, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com 
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Just to add a bit: it is also happening with third-party keyboards. 
It happens with my Braille display and with my Anker UltraSlim keyboard.


HtH,
Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and 
seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Nov 24, 2014, at 3:44 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
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Like others, I've discovered I'm now smitten with the problem when 
wanting to use the Apple keyboard and have tonight contacted the 
Accessability Team about this.  I do hope others will do the same as 
it's really a nasty one for those of us who rely so heavily on our 
Apple keyboards.
I am also finding that it's difficult to get into the edit field and 
write a message.  I didn't see this problem when first I upgraded 
but, once I'd had the problem of getting into and writing in the 
text fields, I then started to get double letters.

A quick fix on this one, please, Apple Tech!
Meantime, along with others, I'll just have to keep trying to clear 
everything and reboot.
I am glad to have seen that information on list, partly because I am 
assured that others are having the problem but also I learned of the 
only work around for now.

Carol P

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moving apps

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I do my thing on the bluettooth keyboard tel it I want to move an 
app, then i go to another page, like 3 of 3 I want to plop passbook here 
since I can't delete it so how do I do that, it just keeps teling me I'm 
in editing mode, and then it accidentally wanted to delete one of my 
other apps on the page I wanted to put it on, help.


Eden

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Re: Which On-demand Streaming Music Service Works Best with VoiceOver?

[Eden Kizer]

How many songs does XBox have, and does it have radio too or just where 
you can stream, and can you search by genre and the like as well?


Eden
On 11/23/2014 9:10 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote:
Xbox music, $9.95 a month, is completely and totally Voiceover 
accessible, you can create playlists, play songs or albums on demand,  
it is fantastic!
The IOS app is more Voiceover compatible than all other streaming 
services I have tried, which is just about all of them.




-Original Message- From: Craig Werner
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:40 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Which On-demand Streaming Music Service Works Best with 
VoiceOver?


Hello, everyone.

I am currently evaluating Spotify, TIDAL, and Rhapsody, three
streaming music services.  All of them work with VoiceOver more or
less, but it may be that none of them works perfectly.  TIDAL mentions
VoiceOver support in its product description on the Apple App Store.

I'm curious to learn which service you have found to be the most
VoiceOver-accessible.  Can you name VoiceOver-related problems that a
particular service has?  Please note that I am not interested in any
music service that does not allow for a specific track to be played on
demand.  Pandora is an example of a service that does not allow
on-demand playing of a track.

Thank you for all help.

Craig



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Re: Which On-demand Streaming Music Service Works Best with VoiceOver?

[Eden Kizer]

so then rhapsody won't be accessible for a person who uses a bluetooth 
keyboard or the braille device.


Eden
On 11/23/2014 9:51 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
I haven't tried Tidal. Spotify seems to be a good deal more accessible 
than Rhapsody, and has more of a selection of music. The only really 
tricky thing about Rhapsody is that you have to do a three-finger 
swipe to the previous page when you open the main menu. You can't do 
the common Voiceover swipe gesture for that.


HtH,
Teresa

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seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Nov 23, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Jim Fettgather jimfettgat...@gmail.com 
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Xbox music, $9.95 a month, is completely and totally Voiceover 
accessible, you can create playlists, play songs or albums on demand, 
 it is fantastic!
The IOS app is more Voiceover compatible than all other streaming 
services I have tried, which is just about all of them.




-Original Message- From: Craig Werner
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:40 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Which On-demand Streaming Music Service Works Best with 
VoiceOver?


Hello, everyone.

I am currently evaluating Spotify, TIDAL, and Rhapsody, three
streaming music services.  All of them work with VoiceOver more or
less, but it may be that none of them works perfectly.  TIDAL mentions
VoiceOver support in its product description on the Apple App Store.

I'm curious to learn which service you have found to be the most
VoiceOver-accessible.  Can you name VoiceOver-related problems that a
particular service has?  Please note that I am not interested in any
music service that does not allow for a specific track to be played on
demand.  Pandora is an example of a service that does not allow
on-demand playing of a track.

Thank you for all help.

Craig

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Re: seeking advice on purchase of first iphone

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, so now you've got me curious, I have Verizon this phone I think will 
only work Verizon, but it works the prepaid verizon too.  I pay $49 a 
month for unlimited text and dtalk, but the data is terrible 500 megs 
and $10 each extra meg, can someone tell me is there a better plan, and 
maybe since I can use with no contract phone, does that mean it'd work 
with another carrier?  I believe the problem is Verizon is TDMA, and 
aren't most others GSM?


Eden
On 11/23/2014 10:23 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Dear Susan,

As my article mentions, the first step in joining the iPhone tribe is
in learning about the coverage and reliability of the wireless service
in your area, the area to which you are moving, and the places where
you visit frequently. A family member’s relationship with ATT may be
a perfect fit for them.  It may not be for you, particularly if you
live or travel to places the other person does not. Once you have
figured out if all, some or none of the four national wireless
networks have consistent and reliable coverage, it is then time to
focus on prices. T-Mobile has low-priced plans, although these are not
advertised and not available in stores. The deals come for the other
three carriers when resellers buy data and airtime in bulk at a deep
discount and resell it at very low prices.  A just released survey by
Consumer Reports found high dissatisfaction with the major national
carriers but high customer satisfaction levels from the resellers. You
can enjoy nearly all the benefits from the sprint, ATT or Verizon
networks at one-half to one third of the cost of what most of those
customers pay. True, the resellers do not offer the roaming the big
boys offer, but unless you plan to go to sparsely populated areas
regularly, like the upper peninsula of Michigan or northern Nevada, it
is not an issue for most people.

The 5S will cost less, but it is important to realize that iPhones
essentially have an expiration date.  This is because the iOS software
and apps will no longer be useful long before the solidly built and
well-manufacture iPhone breaks and cannot be repaired. If the iPhone
is kept in a hard shell case and away from water, the hardware will
last for many years. Apple stops supporting iPhones after about four
years from first release.  If Apple maintains past practices, the 5S
will receive its last major iOS in 2017 and will not take new updates
starting in fall 2018.  You will pay more for the iPhone 6, but you
will have a year longer of use along with a better camera for OCR on
the fly and Apple Pay, which could be a much bigger thing in the
future.

Kelly




On 11/22/14, susan susan.wojte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kelly,
Thanks very much for the advice.  I'll have to check out the article, smile.

Besides being somewhat scared off by the technology until last year--I've
taught myself JAWS and OpenBook but we all know that's a far cry from
dealing with touch screens-- I am on a limited income and have been
concerned about monthly expenses. Ironically, my husband and I both have
non-contract  Jitterbug phones  and the month to month costs of the Iphone
are not much more than what I currently pay, and since I'm totally blind the

Jitterbug's so-called accessibility has been laughable to me. Anyway,
between the timing and the pricepoint I think I'm ready for a 5S.

-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: seeking advice on purchase of first iphone

Dear Susan,

Under the ATT terms of service document, which is available online in
fully accessible format, only one statement is generated for a family
plan account. Family members not the phone company are responsible for
divvying up the bill and paying the primary account holder what they
owe. Each line has a two-year contract. If you are moving in a year,
you should be certain of the ATT coverage for your new area as it
might be expensive to back out of a contract. Different parts of the
country usually have great service from one or two carriers but not
another. It would not surprise me to learn that you may be moving from
an area with good ATT coverage to an area with poor coverage.
Inconsistent service quality from local area to local area is common
with the national carriers.

If you have WIFI at home, download the app updates, NLS books, and
other big files on WIFI. You will rarely need more than one gig of
data.

If you are looking for inexpensive plans, consider the $30 T-Mobile
plan for unlimited data and text and 100 voice minutes. Free calling
apps like Vonage and Magic Jack can bridge the difference for most
people. Ting, which uses the Sprint network, also offers a $30 plan.

I wrote the article ‘iPhone on the Cheap” on AppleVis. The most
expensive part of owning an iPhone is the cost of monthly service, not
the phone itself. In researching the article, I found that most people
bought much more service than what they needed or used.  It was as 

Re: Anyone else having trouble engaging Siri?

[Eden Kizer]

Yes, I've seen this problem too since updating.

Eden
On 11/23/2014 1:35 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Siri is certainly been inconsistent for me since updating to 8.1.1 
also on an iPhone 5S.
However, I just tried it with Safari and after a couple failed 
attempts, it worked like it should.

I think you might still want to report it to Apple.
by the way, I've dictated this entire message.
I am finding that  dictation seems to be working better.

Richard

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe


Sent from my iPhone 5S



On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com 
mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:


I often cannot engage Siri and my speech disappears very often. I’m 
trying to figure out if this is a bug or if this warrants a visit to 
the apple store. If I am in Safari and I press the home button to 
engage Siri, I get a tone and then a bong. I cannot use Siri unless I 
go back to the home screen. Often, I will completely lose speech 
after using Siri. I also have this same problem when using the 
messages app. I did a complete restore on my phone and set it up as a 
new phone. :( The problem is still persisting. I started from scratch 
just to make sure. I am on a iPhone 5S running the latest iOS version 
8.1.1.


I am an avid Siri user and this has become a real frustration. I also 
sometimes cannot engage Siri at all via the home button when I am at 
the home screen and I have to do a phone restart. I have tried 
everything that I can think of.


Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Anyone else having trouble engaging Siri?

[Eden Kizer]

what does audio ducking do to voice-over and Siri?  It seems to be on in 
my phone, but I mostly notice it with music.  Most of the time, I don't 
want audio ducking on because I have a braille display, but since it's 
in the shop, it helps, but I wonder how you are saying this affects Siri 
and Voice-over, thanks.


Eden
On 11/23/2014 3:30 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
Is it the Audio Ducking (set to on) that causes me not to get clicks 
feedback when brailling using the app directly, or does this just not 
work when set to words!


You may already know the answer, which is why I pose the question now, 
but when next I'm beside my phone I'll try to turn Audio Ducking off 
and see what happens!


Carol P

- Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:43 PM
Subject: RE: Anyone else having trouble engaging Siri?


Do you have audio ducking turned off? Turning it off has interesting 
effects on several things. Also, do you use an Airplay device? If I 
use Airplay I have to restart my phone before SIRI works again 
otherwise it does exactly what you describe, SIRI beeps to listen and 
immediately beeps like when it stops. I rarely use Airplay right now 
because of this and hope Apple will fix this soon.


Regards,
Sieghards


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christina C.

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone else having trouble engaging Siri?

I often cannot engage Siri and my speech disappears very often. I’m 
trying to figure out if this is a bug or if this warrants a visit to 
the apple store. If I am in Safari and I press the home button to 
engage Siri, I get a tone and then a bong. I cannot use Siri unless I 
go back to the home screen. Often, I will completely lose speech after 
using Siri. I also have this same problem when using the messages app. 
I did a complete restore on my phone and set it up as a new phone. :( 
The problem is still persisting. I started from scratch just to make 
sure. I am on a iPhone 5S running the latest iOS version 8.1.1.


I am an avid Siri user and this has become a real frustration. I also 
sometimes cannot engage Siri at all via the home button when I am at 
the home screen and I have to do a phone restart. I have tried 
everything that I can think of.


Thanks,
Christina



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blogging, podcasting and youtubing

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I want to post youtube vids and blogs, how accessible are these 
apps, and also if I want to upload audio only podcasts, are there places 
I can do this for cheap to have them available, thanks?


Eden

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downcast or overcast

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I know both of these are supposed to be accessible, can someone tel 
me differences.I am wondering which one will let you search more and 
really show yu by categories and would there be any way to search for 
IPhone related podcasts or for blindness-related podcasts.  Thanks.


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about new apps

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I know there are tons of apps out there, but a lot of time I find 
cool ones just by hearing what others have tried.  I may even want to 
try to find things to review for Applevis.  Does someone know of general 
podcasts not necessarily for the blind that have different types of apps 
reviewed that one might want to try or some good twitter feed or email 
list, thanks.


Eden

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typing text with bluetooth keyboard

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I want to search in app store.  When I do this with my braille 
display, I select it and it puts me in editing, this doesn't happen with 
the keyboard, what do I need to do, frustrated?


Eden

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double tapping and holding during downcast and things

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I know you can double tap and hold for things like moving aps using 
a bluetooth keyboard, but can you use it to use the fast forward and 
such in downcast?  Like I said, I am only aware of the VO M command for 
double tappng and holding.  I know others who use this gesture on other 
aps such as slingplayer so just wondeirng how this is accomplished.


Eden

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bluetooth keyboard again

[Eden Kizer]

Everytime I enter letters on my bluetooth keyboard, it repeats them and 
it seems like it enters characters I didn't want, what am I doing wrong?


Eden

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camfind

[Eden Kizer]

What is this, a bar code scanner or something?  I am also looking for a 
good text scanner, I don't know how well things like Prizmo and Text 
Detective work, I hear everyone say KNFB reader, and while I am sure 
wonderful or at least maybe better than others, the price is hefty for 
me right now although much better than computer scanning software.

Eden

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phone things

[Eden Kizer]

Well, i was wondering if I am listening to music and get a phone call, 
what is the best way to answer the call, and wil I even hear the phone 
over the music.  I noticed when i used my braille device, voice-over was 
audio-ducking, but now with my bluetooth keyboard, it doesn't seem to 
be, I don't think I turned it off, but who knows? Also, what is the best 
way to answer a phone call if you get one on call waiting?  I asume 
you'd have to first pull the phone away or is there a way to do this 
when I get my nice new donated earpods, thanks all.


Eden

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Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released

[Eden Kizer]

This is not true for everyone.  I never had 7, but I can't agree that 
1-2 seconds for an app to open is too long.  I only started with 8.1 to 
be fair, but my old 4s on 7 last year seemed very sluggish comparatively.


Eden
On 11/22/2014 7:44 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Pablo originally wondered if it was worth upgrading.  For iPhone 5
users, the answer now is a definite no.  A review of iOS 8.1.1 using
an iPhone 5 just published in Got to Be Mobile has this to say:


begin quote Speed: This is where everything falls apart. The iPhone 5
with iOS 7.1.2 on board was fast. The iPhone 5 with iOS 8.0 and iOS
8.0.2 on board wasn’t as fast but the speed was tolerable. The iPhone
5 with iOS 8.1 or iOS 8.1.1 on board is not tolerable. While iOS 8.1.1
is stable from a bug standpoint, the software is just as sluggish as
the iOS 8.1 update.

Here’s what I mean by sluggish. I am constantly seeing delays with the
transitions and animations of the operating system, even after I
minimized them in the settings. It takes far too long for folders and
apps to open and I’ve noticed slowdown and random freezing when simply
moving about the home screen. I honestly don’t know what happened but
it’s really soured the experience. end quote

The entire review from Adam Mills can be read at:

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/11/22/iphone-5-ios-8-1-1-review/
Kelly


On 11/20/14, Jeffrey Turner jturner...@gmail.com wrote:

Dratted annoying behavior of Gmail web interface! Am resending for those who
very reasonably dislike reading all the way through old messages to find new
content. What's wrong with google, anyway?

Hi Christopher,

I have found that the best way to insure focus is on the delete button in
mail is to touch it twice, and then do a single finger double tap.
This is much more annoying than it used to be, but not nearly as annoying as
having to dismiss the reply dialog when what you wanted was to delete the
message.

Jeffrey


-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Turner [mailto:jturner...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released

On 11/19/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I still have the bug on my iPhone 4S where touching the delete button,
or any button in the Mail app, doesn't actually give that button
VocieOver focus. I have to swipe to a button to make sure that a
double tap will activate the right button.

On 11/19/2014 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Davy,

All gone is a touch optimistic. Apart from the two issues you
mentioned, some people still can’t clear notifications and the button
still says “Confirm Clear Section” where it should just say “Clear
Section” and then go to “Confirm clear section” once you double tap it.

Also, if you go to Settings, Sounds and go into where  you change
your default ringtone or text tone, you are still kicked back to the
home screen if you start swiping right and once you get onto the
vibration picker. There is an easy work-around for this which is not
to swipe, but to first touch the middle of the screen and then swipe,
but it’s still a bug.

The search field in the App Store still shows whatever you searched
for even if you clear the field with “Clear all” and even though the
field visually is empty if you double tap Clear All twice Voiceover
will read your last entered text.

The keypad tones still disappear a while after my last reboot of the
phone, once again, not a big deal, but a minor bug.

These are some bugs I can think of right now, others have been
mentioned and Apple still has a way to go.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Davy Cuppens
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:11 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released

They are all gone except for the moving app near the doc bug and all
safari bugs are still there.

Regards

Davy

*From:*Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com

*Sent:*Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:12 AM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:*RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released

what about the bugs that has been annoying the voice over users, they
are gone, or still they are in IOs?

Thanks

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 1:12 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* iOS 8.1.1 has been released

Subject says it, just use the usual precautions:

1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes

2. Make sure all apps are updated

3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your
phone by turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network
settings which will also reboot your phone.

Happy updating,

Sieghard

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ringtones

[Eden Kizer]

Ok, I have been in places recently where my IPhone was a couple of feet 
from me and a few other IPhones in the room.  I want to use music 
ringtones like from songs I like.  How would I get one, and how would I 
make it default or specify for a certain person?  Do these cost per 
ringtone or per month?  I am Verizon prepaid.  I also used to have 
ringback tones, but not everyone enjoys listening to music when they 
call someone, and I think that's a monthly fee, correct me if I'm 
wrong.  I would just edit parts of songs myself, but they're all 
digital, and I don't know how to cut up tracks so buying a ringtone 
it'll be, I don't like generic boring ones.


Eden

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Re: amazon basics keyboard questions

[Eden Kizer]

Thanks for the info, I think I will just use this for my IPhone.

Eden
On 11/21/2014 9:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Hi,
If your keyboard is paired with your phone and the phone is locked, turn on the 
keyboard and wait about 3 to 5 seconds, then tap a key.  The capslock works for 
me and the phone will wake up.
However, if you have a pass code, you may or may not be able to enter it on the 
keyboard.  I'm finding with 8.1.1 that the keyboard is often entering double 
letters/numbers until I power off the phone and turn it back on.  Makes no 
sense, but that is what is  happening for me with my AmazonBasics Bluetooth 
keyboard.

You cannot have the keyboard paired to two devices at the same time.
So, if you want to use the keyboard with your computer, turn Bluetooth off on 
your phone so the phone isn't connected to the keyboard.
Then, your computer can connect.  But, you will have to disconnect it from the 
computer before you can then use it again with the phone.  Also, since the keys 
are different than a Windows keyboard, you will have to find out what keys 
match with the alt and control, etc.

I've copied the VoiceOver Keyboard commands from the iOs 8.1 PDF manual and 
saved them as a Word document and put it on my DropBox Public folder.  Here is 
a link to that file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/VoiceOver%20keyboard%20commands%20from%20iOS%208-1%20user%20guide.docx

HTH,
Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden Kizer
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: amazon basics keyboard questions

First off, how exactly do you unlock your phone using this keyboard,
Raul explained this in his podcast, but I just didn't get it, sorry?
Also, what if I want to pair this with my computer sometime will it work
with Windows, and if I use it with the computer, how do I keep it from
manipulating my Iphone or my computer respectively. If not possible, I
need to know this too.  Also how does one double tap and hold with the
keyboard commands for moving apps around and such?  Thanks.

Eden



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braille displays and bluetooth keyboards

[Eden Kizer]

I am woefully aware at this moment how dependent on my braille device I 
am.  Between my hearing starting to drop a little and the fact that my 
hands always act like an instrument, the touch screen is useless to me.  
I have this bluetooth keyboard which is great, but I am certainly 
overwhelemd by learning a whole new set of commands.  I already know 2 
screenreaders, use a braille notetaker commands for its regular use, use 
it with my IPhone, and I just think I am having trouble using all the 
commands plus the key command structure is a little different.  there 
have been some great podcats on this subject, but can anyone give me 
some ideas about how they keep all this straight, using my keyboard 
accidentally touched something that started opening everything I 
touched, but I am not sure what I even did, going crazy.  I may be 
having IPone withdrawals for a week as at this rate, I'll be lucky to 
answer the phone.


I hate sending braille display units in for repair.

Eden

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Re: braille displays and bluetooth keyboards

[Eden Kizer]

sorry, I think my screen is too sensitive for one thing, but it may be 
just that my hands move around, and I think the reason I may have been 
just opening things on the keyboard is I didn't know the command wel 
enough.  I think I am confused as to when you can use quick nav and when 
you can not, and we don't have to use the rotor as much with braille 
displays so this is a nightmare for me, lol.


Eden
On 11/21/2014 10:25 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

It takes a lot of practice and memorization.  I don't think there are any 
shortcuts to keeping it all straight.
When you said you accidentially touched something that made everything you 
touched open, are you talking about using the keyboard or touching the screen 
with your finger?

If VoiceOver is on, nothing opens without either a two finger split tap with 
your finger or a double tap with one finger.
Or, holding down several keys at once on the keyboard.
This is beginning to sound like there may be a problem with the keyboard.
Or, are you talking about the braille device?  Again, it takes several keys to 
open anything.

Richard


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Eden Kizer
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: braille displays and bluetooth keyboards

I am woefully aware at this moment how dependent on my braille device I
am.  Between my hearing starting to drop a little and the fact that my
hands always act like an instrument, the touch screen is useless to me.
I have this bluetooth keyboard which is great, but I am certainly
overwhelemd by learning a whole new set of commands.  I already know 2
screenreaders, use a braille notetaker commands for its regular use, use
it with my IPhone, and I just think I am having trouble using all the
commands plus the key command structure is a little different.  there
have been some great podcats on this subject, but can anyone give me
some ideas about how they keep all this straight, using my keyboard
accidentally touched something that started opening everything I
touched, but I am not sure what I even did, going crazy.  I may be
having IPone withdrawals for a week as at this rate, I'll be lucky to
answer the phone.

I hate sending braille display units in for repair.

Eden



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amazon basics keyboard

[Eden Kizer]

I see that F4 does play music or is supposed to haven't checked, but 
will it answer a phone call to since play on headsets and stuff answers 
calls.  Just curious as hitting 3 keys just to answer a call seems silly 
although I use 2 on my braille display or more often than not with a 
phone call, I can do that gesture at least on the screen.  And is 
control working again in the newest update so I can shut the speech  up 
and if I am just having it read the whole screen, if I want to stop on 
an item to select it, how do I do this?  I am sorry if my questions 
sound convoluted, maybe it's my own confusion.


Eden

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alarming behavior from my phone don't know why

[Eden Kizer]

someone told me they tried to call my Verizon IPhone yesterday, and they 
got a busy signal.  Has anyone ever heard of this happening?  i am very 
concerned as I thought all cell service had call waiting as I was on a 
call but that is very strange.


Eden

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