Re: The New Apple TV

2022-12-27 Thread Pete Nalda
If it is, in fact, an Apple TV 4K, yes, that button on the right is Siri.

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> On Dec 27, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> As for the charging port it is USB-C which is fantastic and I can't wait 
> until next year's iPhone finally will also have a USB-C port; it will be the 
> standard for many, many years to come.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Patti 
> Johnson
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 11:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The New Apple TV
> 
> Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to help me 
> wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote is not the 
> same as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, so I can't use 
> my phone charger to charge it up.
> 
> I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is literally 
> glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would they do that?
> 
> Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need to 
> know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the older 
> model?
> 
> This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming that is 
> the siri button?
> 
> What am I missing here?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Patti
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Re: Shutting Down With Side-Button

2022-10-16 Thread Pete Nalda
You have to hold down the side button and the volume up button to  bring up the 
power off screen 

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> On Oct 16, 2022, at 9:30 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, group.
> How can I power off my iPhone12?
> When I keep the side-button pressed, it brings up Siri, so how can I shut the 
> phone down, please?
> Thanks!
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Re: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

2022-09-19 Thread Pete Nalda
This is a behavior I’ve seen before with voiceover. An alternative would be to 
go to Settings>Accessibility>Speak screen, and turn on, then in a book or 
wherever, swipe down with two fingers, then you can even lock the screen your 
self and it’ll keep reading. You can find the speak screen dialog with 
voiceover to stop it. 

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> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:16 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:
> 
> 
> Changing auto lock time does not resolve my issue. In the previous versions, 
> my iPhone would not get locked when reading something, regardless the auto 
> lock time set, whereas now it will keep reading only as long as that setting, 
> then it gets locked, which means that I have to unlock it and restart reading 
> the text, never reaching the end.
>  
> I would appreciate if someone would report this issue to Apple, as I am not 
> sure if I am capable of describing it properly.
>  
> Thank you all for your support,
> Gezim
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: e shtunë, 17 shtator 2022 00:34
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade
>  
> I saw this as well, so as someone else also suggested, I went into Settings 
> -> Display and changed my auto lock time and then changed it back, and it’s 
> working now. The time I can spend on my lock screen before the display shuts 
> down seems shorter though. Is there any way to set this? Now that I have some 
> widgets on my lock screen, I’d like to keep it up a bit longer.
>  
> --
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 2:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade
>  
> Reboot yoru phone.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gezim 
> Rexha
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade
>  
> Hi list,
>  
> After I upgraded to iOS 16.0, my iPhone screen gets locked too quickly, even 
> when it is on, let me put it like that, read all mode. Fore example, if I am 
> reading a Facebook post, screen gets locked before Voiceover has finished 
> reading.
>  
> Before the upgrade, screen would get locked according to the time set, only 
> when the iPhone was not active.
>  
> I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>  
> With best wishes,
> Gezim
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Re: Face ID hit or miss

2022-09-05 Thread Pete Nalda
For what it’s worth, there is a setting to not require attention for Face ID 
that makes it more forgiving. 

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> On Sep 4, 2022, at 8:35 PM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room where 
> there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was standing 
> behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried the 
> suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had much 
> better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that 
> without having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face 
> ID. I have too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been 
> tempting in the past. 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
>> necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the 
>> time, if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why we 
>> could not get it done at Wal-Mart. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>> 
>> I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
>> diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  but 
>> I do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I will 
>> go outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some people 
>> seem to have little problem using it, others just can't seem to make it work 
>> consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only can do as well 
>> as the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem with it gave their 
>> phone a not so good scan of their face to start with. I know voice over said 
>> it was okay, but maybe a better scan would work better. This is just 
>> speculation on my part, I don't have a modern phone with which to 
>> experiment.  
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear 
>> to me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to 
>> reset it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face 
>> ID so that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that 
>> it should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my 
>> very dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a 
>> lot better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has 
>> had, despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about 
>> six months ago.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>   On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    
>> 
>>   Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, 
>> but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical 
>> labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in 
>> my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until 
>> either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps 
>> had heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for 
>> me I would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature 
>> turned off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my 
>> eyes are prosthetic and I often do not have them in at night. I have no 
>> issue with Face I d with the attention feature enabled, but it will not work 
>> if it doesn't see the eyes whereas it works just fine even in absolute 
>> darkness with that feature disabled..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Best regards,
>> 
>>   Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Esther Levegnale
>>   Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   on my old phones with home but

Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

2022-06-16 Thread Pete Nalda
Interesting I bet it’s one of the thing they are touting on
the upcoming iOS 16.  I had sent feedback about this along time ago.
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> On Jun 15, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I spoke with apple accessibility and, they told me it there is a 
> bug in the messaging app for the watch. They are working on it and they are 
> working to correct it.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I saw that too, but after playing around with that mirror my iPhone toggle, 
>> it just refers to mirroring your message notification settings and not the 
>> messages themselves.
>> 
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>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barry 
>> Abbott
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>> watch or on the phone?
>> 
>> I checked my Apple Watch settings and I have messages set to mirror my 
>> iPhone. This would lead me to believe that when you delete a message from 
>> your iPhone it should delete that message from your watch but no, this does 
>> not work. I even went into the settings on my watch and although I could see 
>> other apps for some reason I could not see the messages app.
>> 
>> Very strange!
>> 
>> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable 
>>> to find that setting. Thank you in advance
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
>>>> To: via VIPhone ; 
>>>> watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>>>> watch or on the phone?
>>>> 
>>>> I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw 
>>>> WWDC Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing 
>>>> said about this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about 
>>>> stuff Apple didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be 
>>>> extremely annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone 
>>>> and who gets messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations 
>>>> not just once on whichever device you used to read it initially, but 
>>>> again, on your other device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get 
>>>> boatloads of texts every day like some people do. Am I missing something? 
>>>> Surely, there should be a way where if you delete something on one of your 
>>>> devices such as a text message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems 
>>>> elementary.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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How about just putting an iPhone in a headset for a visual aide!

2022-05-21 Thread Pete Nalda
For about $20 apiece I bet you could undercut every visual aid company in the 
world. Of course head mounting an iPad mini would be better but I don’t think 
that would really be practical LOL

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Dictation does not work in Facebook.

2022-05-18 Thread Pete Nalda
Hello,
Just wondering anyone else has noticed this. I have an iPhone 12 promax with 
iOS 154.1. 

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Speak screen no longer plays when phone is locked. 15.2 iOS

2022-01-07 Thread Pete Nalda
I used to use speech screen over voiceover because I could have it read 
continuously even when the phone was locked. This is not the case. I’m not sure 
if it goes to the next page automatically or not I will have to verify this. 
*update!** speak screen will still turn the page automatically and will keep 
reading even when app is in the background. Lock that screen though and the 
reading stops. I think you used to read even when the phone was locked


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Re: AirPods Pro and spatial audio

2021-12-03 Thread Pete Nalda
Ok. Might still be soon enough to do so. It was like last month or so. 

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> On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:46 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> I always make a habbit when purchasing technology, to also purchase the care 
> plan for it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> One could look up the terms of Apple Care for the Air Pods to see if like 
>> the phone, accidental damage is covered if one wanted to know for sure.
>> If indeed, Apple Care was purchased...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
>> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
>> kinds of good weather.” ~ John Ruskin
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 3:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: AirPods Pro and spatial audio
>> 
>> How do you know what an acid trip is like? LOL!
>> 
>> And if you dropped your pods in the wash,
>> 
>> Dude that's surely not a warrant issue,
>> That's a user created issue,
>> 
>> 
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AirPods Pro and spatial audio

2021-12-03 Thread Pete Nalda
First, if you wanna really experience spatial audio, turn your head when 
streaming talk radio, it’s a bit like an acid trip, I can’t really hear the 
effect in music, but boy!  Now the bad news, they went through the wash!. They 
still work, but left one very static filled. Guessing may need to take to 
Apple, they might be under warranty, as these were a replacement for a previous 
pair that stopped taking button presses and failed a diagnostic test. 

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Re: IOS 15

2021-11-16 Thread Pete Nalda
Yeah, in relation, mine seems to stall when moving to next messages. 

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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
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> 
> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has
> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that
> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three
> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By
> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely
> shutting down the phone. It's not what I would call show-stopping --
> not for me anyway -- but it is inconvenient and annoying.
> 
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
> 
> 
>> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>> 
>> 
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I
>> will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>> 
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Re: IOS 15

2021-11-16 Thread Pete Nalda
You get a nasty black screen if you touch the upper to Bring up call controls, 
and it will also blink. I don’t know what this will do for voiceover users but 
it’s hell for zoom users

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> Hi:
> 
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> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can anyone 
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> 
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Re: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?

2021-11-10 Thread Pete Nalda
You might be right there, I just tried to call an automated line and then hung 
up with Siri and it wouldn’t work

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> On Nov 10, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I don't think any iPhone can do Siri, while call is in progress, can they? 
> 
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> I assume the 8 Plus can't handle a SIRI request at the same time as a phone 
> call.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Coming in late as well. Tried to experiment with Hey Siri on my 8 Plus 
> running 15.1, but couldn’t get it to work when answering a call. Is there a 
> setting I need to adjust?  
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 9:45 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh yeah forgot that,
>> 
>> I jus tpress a button on my headphones 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>> 
>> You have to two-finger double-tap, unless you hit right on answer call. 
>> Anyway, Hay Siri did it today.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 5:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?
>> 
>> Hey Folks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry coming in to this late,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I know that some countries get pretty cold in winter,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But if it’s that cold you have to wear gloves 
>> 
>> Isn’t it then getting to cold for your phone to be out in the wintery air?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just cut the tips off my polypro gloves but then the coldest we get is may 
>> be 0 C in which case kiwis stay in doors rather than going out and getting 
>> cold.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well sensible ones do anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Or just cut the tips of your gloves fingers out so you can touch the screen 
>> with the tip or pad of the finger and answer the phone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You would only have to do it with one digit 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2021 5:21 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What do I do, if a call comes, and I have gloves on. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I get it, the simple answer – remove gloves. But, I was in the grocery 
>> store, had to dig phone out, then get off gloves? Well, I am just wondering 
>> if it can be done, answer the phone with gloves on? 
>> 
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Re: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?

2021-11-08 Thread Pete Nalda
Also would Siri answer it?

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> On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I wondered if I could press Power twice. I know that once would send the 
> call to Voice Mail. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Pete Nalda
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> 
> There are tactical gloves that allow for touch screen manipulation, but 
> haven’t tested in winter.
> 
> 
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>On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>What do I do, if a call comes, and I have gloves on. 
> 
> 
> 
>I get it, the simple answer – remove gloves. But, I was in the grocery 
> store, had to dig phone out, then get off gloves? Well, I am just wondering 
> if it can be done, answer the phone with gloves on? 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?

2021-11-08 Thread Pete Nalda
Direct Action Hard Gloves, military style, touch screen compatible 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DP1XMBB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_S8MKEWN3X6SBVAAGTN0V?_encoding=UTF8=1
 Is what I have. 

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> On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks - I guess tactile gloves are the only choice. Good that I do have the 
> choice. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Richard Turner
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?
> 
> I did a quick search on DuckDuckGo for tactile gloves for use with an iPhone.
> 
> 
> 
> Here is that results page.  You have lots and ltos of choices.
> 
> 
> 
> tactile gloves for use with iPhone at DuckDuckGo 
> <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tactile+gloves+for+use+with+iPhone=h_=web> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
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> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
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> 
> 
> What do I do, if a call comes, and I have gloves on. 
> 
> 
> 
> I get it, the simple answer – remove gloves. But, I was in the grocery store, 
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Re: How can I answer the phone with gloves on?

2021-11-08 Thread Pete Nalda
There are tactical gloves that allow for touch screen manipulation, but haven’t 
tested in winter. 

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> On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> What do I do, if a call comes, and I have gloves on.
>  
> I get it, the simple answer – remove gloves. But, I was in the grocery store, 
> had to dig phone out, then get off gloves? Well, I am just wondering if it 
> can be done, answer the phone with gloves on?
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Re: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

2021-10-29 Thread Pete Nalda
For what it’s worth. I’ve not had a battery last like my iPhone12proMax!  
Android or otherwise, and I’m a heavy user!  

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> On Oct 29, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:
> 
> I think that is ultimately what I’m going to do. Sure, I could wait and see 
> what the new galaxy S 22 ultra will look like sometime next spring, but sadly 
> I need a phone and I need one that works now. I have two kids presently in 
> school and more often than not I’m having issues with the current device I am 
> using just to get by until I can get a new phone. I’m missing more calls than 
> not these days, and that just cannot happen. Not for business and certainly 
> not for my kids schools. The more research I’m doing presently as I write 
> this and the more information I am gathering just from people on this list, 
> I’m really feeling that the iPhone 13 promax is going to be my best bet. I 
> will probably wind up having to wait though because the capacity that I want 
> of the device, either 512 GB or 1 TB, are both back ordered.
> 
> Loreal
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Your message came through. I only have an iPhone and can't help you with a 
>> comparison. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Loreal Lavigna
>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 10:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: FW: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra
>> Importance: High
>> 
>> I sent the following message to the list and have heard nothing in response. 
>>  Are my messages even going through to the list?  I need information as soon 
>> as possible, as I need a working phone, and the problems I’m experiencing 
>> with my device are simply too extensive for me to wait it out for another 
>> few months.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Loreal Lavigna  
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra
>> Importance: High
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve been both an IPhone and Android user respectively over the past ten 
>> years – first IPhone from November of 2011 to June of 2013, then again for a 
>> brief period from June of 2014 through January of 2015; and Android first 
>> from June of 2013 through June of 2014, then January of 2015 through to 
>> present day.  Most people who have known me during the last few years and 
>> even earlier back into the late 2000’s with the late Windows Mobile devices 
>> will recall I usually am one of the ones who does her research and helps 
>> others out with their issues.  Now though, it’s me who could use a little 
>> help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m doing some research and don’t want to miss anything like I did six years 
>> ago.  I want to research the differences between the most high-end IPhone 13 
>> Pro Max and the Samsung Galaxy equivalent, the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G.  
>>   Both are 5G capable devices, both come in the storage capacities I’m 
>> interested in.  Specifically I’m looking at the following:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1.  Battery life:  In looking at the two devices, I have found several 
>> differing writeups on the internet claiming either of the devices is better 
>> than the other, but not giving any real specifics from the viewpoint of a 
>> user who uses accessibility features such as VoiceOver on IOS and TalkBack 
>> on Android.  I want to know which of these devices’ batteries is more 
>> long-lasting with the use of the accessibility features running.  If anyone 
>> has information about the battery usage without the accessibility features 
>> running as well, so much the better.  I can make an even better-informed 
>> decision at the end of the day.
>> 
>> 2.  RAM/Processor speed:  I’m looking specifically at RAM/processor 
>> speed and how fast each device measures up in a truly fair comparison.  
>> Which of these devices will ultimately be able to be used and not lag too 
>> much both with and/or without the accessibility features running?  I’ve also 
>> read differing opinions on this and with each of these devices being named 
>> the truly better device.  I’d like to see how much of what I’ve discovered 
>> thus far is fact as opposed to fiction as opposed to simple preference and 
>> opinion but not bas

Re: Problem with Siri

2021-10-26 Thread Pete Nalda
I have watchOS 7.six something, and I asked Siri this morning how is my 
battery? She came back and said you’re good 95% good to go

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> On Oct 26, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeha I got that same result.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> pegkan...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2021 10:42 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with Siri
>  
> Hi,
> I just asked Siri my battery level on my watch and she said she cannot do 
> that.
> Take care.
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> On Oct 26, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Apple watch 6Se & I just used my watch & asked Siri "battery level" she 
> replied, 12%. I checked & Siri responded correctly. Watch & iPhone both 
> running most recent updates.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
>  Richard, I’ve husked my Apple Watch 6 running watchOS 8.1 what the battery 
> level is, and it won’t tell me either.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 26 Oct 2021, at 15:48, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, on my Apple Watch series 6 after updating to WatchOS 8.1 it no longer 
> can tell me the battery level.
> It just says it cannot help me with that.
> A definite step backward.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 10:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with Siri
>  
> Well maybe he’s just being not nice to me for a while maybe it will be nice 
> to me because it was nice to me yesterday who knows very iffy.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2021, at 9:44 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have not had that problem much, but I do not use Siri a lot.
> I just asked it to open mail and it did, quite quickly.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2021, at 8:57 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody I hope you are doing well and I hope this email gets through 
> to you. I am having some issues with Siri in regards to when I invoke Siri 
> and tell Siri to launch apps siri’s response is the following: I'm still 
> having problems with the connection." 
> Anybody getting this?
> I am on iOS 15.1 and I have reset all my network settings and everything else 
> seems to work very well except for Siri and all day this has been happening 
> even when I tell Siri to do something it still says the above message that it 
> has issues with the connection. Am I missing something? I have an iPhone 8 
> plus if that tells you guys anything. When I tell it to launch Facebook for 
> example that’s when I hit the same response and also when I tell seri to open 
> mail. I can assure you that my home network is a very strong solid connection 
> and if everything else works fine Siri should work fine but Siri is not 
> working fine but everything else works fine so I guess I’m gonna have to do 
> things manually now. Either that or Siri is broken in my phone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

2021-10-10 Thread Pete Nalda
Same with my bioptics. It even lnows all 3 faces and 50 hats

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> On Oct 10, 2021, at 5:16 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> I always have my shades on,
>  
> And the face id doesn’t have an issue with unlocking my phone when I’m 
> wearing them.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, 11 October 2021 2:25 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id
>  
> I eventually ended up performing an alternative scan of my face, but even 
> before that, I didn’t have trouble using face ID with or without sun glasses 
> on.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id
>  
> The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
> only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve 
> never gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as 
> well. If you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long 
> as you use your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise 
> your phone for access. 
> 
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> On Oct 10, 2021, at 4:11 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
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> 
> Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried about 
> setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock directions.  
> Any help is appreciated.
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Re: thinking about iPhone 13 pro but worried about face id

2021-10-10 Thread Pete Nalda
The voice guided Face ID setup using VoiceOver is pretty clock free. Then the 
only time you’ll need to passcode your phone is when wearing a mask. I’ve never 
gotten face recognition with a mask. Hats kinda throw it for a loop as well. If 
you use sunglasses you are allowed 2 versions of your face, as long as you use 
your natural face first. Accuracy is a good 95% when you raise your phone for 
access. 

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> On Oct 10, 2021, at 4:11 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I’m totally blind I’m thinking about a iPhone 13 pro.  I’m worried about 
> setting up face id.  Is it difficult?  I’m not great with clock directions.  
> Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Advice needed on new iPhone 13 setup and how patient to be

2021-10-09 Thread Pete Nalda
What I would do is go to settings as soon as you get voiceover turned on, Then 
display and brightness and that’s where you can change the sleeptime and you 
can’t change it yesterday as a default to 30 but you can change it easy

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> On Oct 9, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I need some advice. I’m in process of setting up a new iPhone 13 Mini. I got 
> it connected to my iPhone SE 2020 to do the device to device transfer. I got 
> this started and got face ID set up and then I was prompted to update the new 
> iPhone to iOS 15.01 which I began. This has been going on for about an hour 
> and I’m losing patience. I’m also curious why in the world a new device is 
> set by default to turn off after about 30 seconds. I’m having to touch the 
> screen every 30 seconds to prevent the device from going to sleep which I 
> believe will stop the iOS update. I’m hesitant to do a cold reset with the 
> volume up, volume down, and power buttons but I’m losing patience.
>  
> I welcome your recommendations and thanks in advance.
>  
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Re: Updated and restored from backup, no music or bard books

2021-09-27 Thread Pete Nalda
As for music, make sure iCloud syncing for music is turned on. 

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> On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> That is a big negative on the bard books for sure.  I have no idea
> about the music.  That not transferring of bard books is so annoying.
> I will be keeping my iPhone 8 forever as long as NLS won't transfer or
> backup your bard books to a new iPhone or other device like an iPad or
> any other device.  It is so frustrating.
> 
>> On 9/27/21, Amy Ruell  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I updated to IOS 15 and set up my new phone to use a stored backup. I have
>> no songs listed and no BARD books. Is there a way to restore these?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Amy
>> 
>> 
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Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-16 Thread Pete Nalda
Too bad about the mini, I love my mini V!  Oh it’s so perfect I don’t know how 
much they could improve, safe for camera maybe and processor.

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> On Sep 16, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms
> almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system
> for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12.  They do
> not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a
> phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a
> mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The
> deals will go away in spring 2022.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> LOL, Seigard.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown,
>> maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 藍
>> 
>> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate
>> brown phone would be fine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is
>> official or a rumour.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it
>> does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >> <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty
>>> early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just
>>> think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life
>>> issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put
>>> on it.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> 
>>>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some
>>>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out
>>>> I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea
>>>> they’d bring out another mini so soon.
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday
>>>> 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird,
>>>> supernatural etc.
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> All the best
>> 
>>>> Angie
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote:
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not
>> 
>>>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the
>>>>> season.
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to

Notes versus word when it comes to device syncing, dictation, and Trustworthierback ups?

2021-09-06 Thread Pete Nalda
So, I am writing a memoir, that’s about 65 pages so far, add about 4400 words. 
I started this in notes, and then I copied it to work just to see how many 
pages ahead so far. One thing about notes is the despond it’s so much easier to 
see then whatever font Microsoft is using. I know that just doing it one or the 
other would be easier than copying it back-and-forth. Any of y’all have any 
advice? I’m going to say to that I do a whole lot of dictating through my 
iPhone even quite a bit of editing!

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Re: Out of topic

2021-09-03 Thread Pete Nalda
Highly recommend this for a music lover by the way! Also there may be a phone 
app remote for this, seems like I’ll download one but I can’t find it. So I 
couldn’t tell you if it was accessible. I do know, that there are buttons on 
the bar itself. The little satellite speakers can be spread at least 50’ apart! 
 The satellite speakers do use a wire from the subwoofer.

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> On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Marco Chan  wrote:
> 
>  Thanks for the info! I will definitely look into these options.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On 3 Sep 2021, at 12:52 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
>> I have this. More than a sound bar, but control buttons on unit are raised. 
>> There is a small display on the remote, but not much use to  someone  
>> visually impaired 
>> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-v-series-5-1-channel-sound-bar-system-with-wireless-subwoofer-black/6416784.p?skuId=6416784=212=1=204=212=1=CjwKCAjwj8eJBhA5EiwAg3z0m4P3_diiiO2F_KiWfFTm4cQ7am0CspL3F39obtfqNurSPRn6oAunvhoC658QAvD_BwE=aw.ds
>>  
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>>>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Marco Chan  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> Any good sound bar recommendation? Affordable and easy to set up for my PC. 
>>> For music lover too!
>>> 
>>> Thx,
>>> Marco
>>> 
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Re: Out of topic

2021-09-03 Thread Pete Nalda
I have this. More than a sound bar, but control buttons on unit are raised. 
There is a small display on the remote, but not much use to  someone  visually 
impaired 
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-v-series-5-1-channel-sound-bar-system-with-wireless-subwoofer-black/6416784.p?skuId=6416784=212=1=204=212=1=CjwKCAjwj8eJBhA5EiwAg3z0m4P3_diiiO2F_KiWfFTm4cQ7am0CspL3F39obtfqNurSPRn6oAunvhoC658QAvD_BwE=aw.ds
 

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> On Sep 3, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Marco Chan  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> Any good sound bar recommendation? Affordable and easy to set up for my PC. 
> For music lover too!
> 
> Thx,
> Marco
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: query

2021-08-11 Thread Pete Nalda
Settings On Aug 10, 2021, at 2:57 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
>  
> Can anyone explain to me if there is a way how to make the words of a text 
> message looks bigger because when a sighted person try to read it find it 
> hard because it is too small.
> Thanks in advance for any suggestion,
>  
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Re: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

2021-08-03 Thread Pete Nalda
I just took a picture of my vaccination card, and so in a sense it’s in my 
phone. 

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> On Aug 3, 2021, at 3:39 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> got given a piece of paper which said I have been vaccinated twice but 
> unfortunately I can't remember where I put it, so just remember where you put 
> it Simon Janet
> 
> On 03/08/2021 01:52, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Yeah I’m just looking at this with a couple of medical staff,
>>  
>> I’ve been given a bit of cardboard,
>> The size of a business card that has the vaccination information on it,
>>  
>> That is seemingly our documentation for having been vaccinated
>>  
>> How long a bit of card lasts is going to be interesting,
>> Not even sure where to keep it.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 2021 5:59 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone
>>  
>> And once again since the list is international, this of course only works if 
>> you have a card. Here in British Columbia you got a few papers both for the 
>> first and second shot which state that you had the shot, which vaccine you 
>> got and whether you had it in your right or left arm. Apart from that there 
>> is the digital certificate available via the Health Gateway, but no actual 
>> card has been issued and while there is a Federal component of the Canadian 
>> health system, it's primarily a provincial thing so I assume maybe some 
>> provinces have given out a card and others have not.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
>> Lemly
>> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone
>>  
>> Since this list has international subscribers, it should be noted that the 
>> NHS app referenced is only applicable in parts of the UK. If those in the US 
>> or other places without a government-based app for tracking their 
>> vaccination want to do so on their iDevices, I suggest googling the subject 
>> and reading one of the several articles that have been posted on the topic.
>>  
>> As others have mentioned, taking a photo of your vaccination card (both 
>> sides) is one option. I chose to scan both sides of my card on my flatbed 
>> scanner and saved the resulting file as a PDF image file. Since these cards 
>> usually have handwriting on them, running OCR on them doesn’t work great and 
>> a saved image file will be more easily read by a sighted individual wanting 
>> to check your vaccination status.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
>> hevener
>> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 10:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone
>>  
>> At the time I had vaccine, I was given a card showing all the gory details.  
>> I had someone take a pic of it. 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone
>>  
>> I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on 
>> their phone.  How is this done?
>>  
>> Andy
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Re: airpods?

2021-07-14 Thread Pete Nalda
What I have AirPods from dropping. GOGOSODU Compatible Airpods Strap, Silicone 
Anti-Lost Strap Wire Cable Connector Sports Neckband Compatible Airpods Pro, 1, 
2 Wireless Charging, Black with Red 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075N8GY48/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_QCN3XVNVK6Y3QJN6JZRH?_encoding=UTF8=1

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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> I started out with the Apple wired earbuds inI started out with the Apple 
> wired earbuds in while they were good, they are not as good as the AirPod 
> pros that I got last fall The onlyThe only concern I have with them, as has 
> been mentioned by others, is that they won’t always stay in my 
> earsConsequently consequently, I really don’t like wearing those when I’m 
> going places outdoorsI’m thinking my next personal listening device is i’m 
> thinking my next personal listening device is going to be the Bose framesOh I 
> like the fact that they won’t completely close oh I like the fact that they 
> won’t completely close up my ears and that they are easier to keep up with 
> went out and about
> Dan
>  be
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2021, at 5:25 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
>> Yup!  Actually something about that shape stays in my ear very well. It’s 
>> one hour to snag record that they would come popping out
>> 
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>>>> On Jul 13, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah but for 20 bucks
>>> It’s a lot cheaper to drop your wired earpods than drop wireless ones and 
>>> lose them on the road etc.
>>>  
>>> And they are still a very good quality.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
>>> Nalda
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2021 1:24 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: airpods?
>>>  
>>> According to others on here, I guess there is. Heck, maybe I need to study 
>>> that and try my EarPods some. Don’t gotta worry about battery life with 
>>> those, and if the come outta my ears, they’ll just be dragging along 
>>> behind. Been there, done that!浪
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>So would I, is there a difference?
>>>  
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>  
>>> From: Pete Nalda
>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 11:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: airpods?
>>>  
>>> I’d be hard put to tell the difference in sound between wired and wireless.
>>>  
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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>>>  
>>> > On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Do air Pods sounds as good as wired headphones? I thought this was the
>>> > reason why the guys at cell phone stores walked around playing music
>>> > with wires coming out of their ears.
>>> >
>>> > Kelly
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 7/12/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> >> It's the case, if you want to call it that, that comes with the Airpods 
>>> >> max.
>>> >> It basically only covers the ear pieces themselves, and resembles a bra 
>>> >> in
>>> >> shape.
>>> >> it is also referred to as a pouch, which might better describe it.
>>> >> It has a magnetic closure which supposedly puts the headset into a deeper
>>> >> sleep, conserving battery charge.
>>> >>
>>> >> Andy
>>> >>
>>> >>  - Original Message -
>>> >>  From: Simon A Fogarty
>>> >>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> >>  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:45 PM
>>> >>  Subject: RE: airpods?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  Sorry but what is the bra case?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>

Re: iPad mini generation six

2021-07-14 Thread Pete Nalda
Well I may not see fit to change either. Although I would like my full 512 MB 
library

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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:58 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
> this point, but did not think it was out yet.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
>> If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
>> released yet.
>> The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
>> March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.
>> 
>> The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.
>> 
>> It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that 
>> is very confusing.
>> Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
>> Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not 
>> on your Ipad.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
>> Pingstock
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six
>> 
>> Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
>> mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> Web site: 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPad mini generation six
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
>>> generation six Kathy
>>> 
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Re: iPad mini generation six

2021-07-14 Thread Pete Nalda
Boy!  Dunno. My iPad mini five as a home button it gets a lot of use. So what 
the screen is a little smaller?  Finally on the newer iPad they may do away 
with the headphone jack. That would really be a bummer!But since it’s not out 
will have to see what it comes with

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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 4:05 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Please note, no official announcement I know of has come from Apple.
> But, Mac Rumors, and about every other rumor mill says it will be out this 
> fall with no home button, etc.
> Physically about the same size though probably thinner.
> If you do a web search, you will find lots of references to it.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:58 PM, matthew dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
>> this point, but did not think it was out yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
>>> If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
>>> released yet.
>>> The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was 
>>> released March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.
>>> 
>>> The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.
>>> 
>>> It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that 
>>> is very confusing.
>>> Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12 
>>>  Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not 
>>> on your Ipad.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> Web site: 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six
>>> 
>>> Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
>>> mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>>> 
>>>> Web site: 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ce9f0f78dd3b141b6cb9d08d9470a2d40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637618931295503076%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=AkfoRUHvgd4XN8GYaTT%2F9YPUkiYcm%2BvuT6FBdwRbNZo%3Dreserved=0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: iPad mini generation six
>>>> 
>>>> Good afternoon
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
>>>> generation six Kathy
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: airpods?

2021-07-13 Thread Pete Nalda
Yup!  Actually something about that shape stays in my ear very well. It’s one 
hour to snag record that they would come popping out

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> On Jul 13, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah but for 20 bucks
> It’s a lot cheaper to drop your wired earpods than drop wireless ones and 
> lose them on the road etc.
>  
> And they are still a very good quality.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2021 1:24 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: airpods?
>  
> According to others on here, I guess there is. Heck, maybe I need to study 
> that and try my EarPods some. Don’t gotta worry about battery life with 
> those, and if the come outta my ears, they’ll just be dragging along behind. 
> Been there, done that!浪
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> 
> 
> On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> 
>    So would I, is there a difference?
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Pete Nalda
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 11:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: airpods?
>  
> I’d be hard put to tell the difference in sound between wired and wireless.
>  
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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>  
> > On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> >
> > Do air Pods sounds as good as wired headphones? I thought this was the
> > reason why the guys at cell phone stores walked around playing music
> > with wires coming out of their ears.
> >
> > Kelly
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 7/12/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> >> It's the case, if you want to call it that, that comes with the Airpods 
> >> max.
> >> It basically only covers the ear pieces themselves, and resembles a bra in
> >> shape.
> >> it is also referred to as a pouch, which might better describe it.
> >> It has a magnetic closure which supposedly puts the headset into a deeper
> >> sleep, conserving battery charge.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>  - Original Message -
> >>  From: Simon A Fogarty
> >>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:45 PM
> >>  Subject: RE: airpods?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Sorry but what is the bra case?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> >> Star Gazer
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 8:36 am
> >>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>  Subject: RE: airpods?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  So let me ask, how do you charge the bra case? I’ve never seen these
> >> cases, do the buds just hang out in the case until they’re ready to be 
> >> used?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  From: Andy Baracco
> >>  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:31 PM
> >>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>  Subject: Re: airpods?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  it does resemble a Bra!  LOL!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>
> >>From: Richard Turner
> >>
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>
> >>Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 1:05 PM
> >>
> >>Subject: RE: airpods?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Apple Airpods Max, Space Gray Review updated July 12, 2021 after a few
> >> months of use.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I received the Airpods Max in January and unboxed them and was surprised
> >> how very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but
> >> holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them 
> >> screams
> >> quality!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people
> >> call the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would
> >> go with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the
> >> descriptions I had h

Re: AirPods?

2021-07-13 Thread Pete Nalda
Yeah. You can hear the lows missing in the typing sound and phone lock sound. 

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> On Jul 13, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And the sound quality of the Earpods is really quite good as well. Of course 
> they won't have the base of a large headset with 40mm or 50mm drivers, but 
> they have amazing clarity and transparency. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 8:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AirPods?
> 
> What an enlightening conversation this has been!  I absolutely love the 
> comment about EarPods being the best value for the money cord inconvenience 
> not withstanding. You won’t run out of battery, *and* you have physical 
> controls. The largest love of my heart will always be AirPod Max, looking 
> like an alien is not an issue for me, but safety for me, and my Max are. So 
> they get the least amount of use, but I’m so grateful for owning them!
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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AirPods?

2021-07-13 Thread Pete Nalda
What an enlightening conversation this has been!  I absolutely love the comment 
about EarPods being the best value for the money cord inconvenience not 
withstanding. You won’t run out of battery, *and* you have physical controls. 
The largest love of my heart will always be AirPod Max, looking like an alien 
is not an issue for me, but safety for me, and my Max are. So they get the 
least amount of use, but I’m so grateful for owning them!

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Re: airpods?

2021-07-13 Thread Pete Nalda
According to others on here, I guess there is. Heck, maybe I need to study that 
and try my EarPods some. Don’t gotta worry about battery life with those, and 
if the come outta my ears, they’ll just be dragging along behind. Been there, 
done that!浪

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> On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> 
>So would I, is there a difference?
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Pete Nalda
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 11:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: airpods?
>  
> I’d be hard put to tell the difference in sound between wired and wireless.
>  
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>  
> > On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> >
> > Do air Pods sounds as good as wired headphones? I thought this was the
> > reason why the guys at cell phone stores walked around playing music
> > with wires coming out of their ears.
> >
> > Kelly
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 7/12/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> >> It's the case, if you want to call it that, that comes with the Airpods 
> >> max.
> >> It basically only covers the ear pieces themselves, and resembles a bra in
> >> shape.
> >> it is also referred to as a pouch, which might better describe it.
> >> It has a magnetic closure which supposedly puts the headset into a deeper
> >> sleep, conserving battery charge.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>  - Original Message -
> >>  From: Simon A Fogarty
> >>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:45 PM
> >>  Subject: RE: airpods?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Sorry but what is the bra case?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> >> Star Gazer
> >>  Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 8:36 am
> >>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>  Subject: RE: airpods?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  So let me ask, how do you charge the bra case? I’ve never seen these
> >> cases, do the buds just hang out in the case until they’re ready to be 
> >> used?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  From: Andy Baracco
> >>  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:31 PM
> >>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>  Subject: Re: airpods?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  it does resemble a Bra!  LOL!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>
> >>From: Richard Turner
> >>
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>
> >>Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 1:05 PM
> >>
> >>Subject: RE: airpods?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Apple Airpods Max, Space Gray Review updated July 12, 2021 after a few
> >> months of use.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I received the Airpods Max in January and unboxed them and was surprised
> >> how very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but
> >> holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them 
> >> screams
> >> quality!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people
> >> call the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would
> >> go with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the
> >> descriptions I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of
> >> thing that was kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's
> >> clothing.  However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My
> >> wife says it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a
> >> purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its
> >> own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Now, as for the headphones themselves…
> >>
> >>I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average
> >> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after p

Re: AirPods?

2021-07-13 Thread Pete Nalda
I had beats, the first with h1 but the whole set fell off my neck and got ran 
over by a car. But they had no noise canceling or ambience. But will 
investigate. One can also buy  Earbuddyz for AirPods Pro but they don’t let the 
earbuds go fully into ear, making bass lacking. So this is what I use when I’m 
forced to use the pros.  GOGOSODU Compatible Airpods... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075N8GY48. One other thing, battery life on the pros 
is not that great, and I have to take the retainers offto charge in the case. 
Will have to investigate the beats battery life. 

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> On Jul 13, 2021, at 2:33 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete,
> 
> LOL,
> Sorry for laughing but have you thought of super glue and gluing them in?
> 
> 
> I've got both the airpods and power beats pro versions,
> The power beats pro have a hook that goes over the ear and also the in ear 
> insert like the airpod pro ,
> 
> Possibly you should look at them as a replacement 
> They should't fall out with the hook.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 6:41 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: AirPods?
> 
> I already use the larger inserts, and they’ll still slip out when nobile. 
> Thank goodness I have a plastic neck band with rubber lanyards that go over 
> the stem to catch them should they pop out, which they always do. Maybe Apple 
> should’ve included an even larger insert. 
> 
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>> On Jul 13, 2021, at 12:35 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> This is a bit of a generalisation about the airpods pro,
>> 
>> Mine don't fall out easy,
>> 
>> Same with my airpods second gen,
>> 
>> They don't fall out either,
>> 
>> If you have the airpods pro and they fall out easy, I'd suggest trying 
>> the different probably larger sized ear inserts
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Pete Nalda
>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 3:41 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: AirPods?
>> 
>> First the wired Apple in ear phones are called EarPods, whereas all AirPods 
>> models are wireless. One thing I’ll say about the AirPod pros, and that’s 
>> they fall out easy!  Granted, you can buy a neck lanyard to retain them, 
>> highly recommend, or just use EarPods, which may not fit as well, but have 
>> no noise cancellation or ambience feature, but are tethered by the nature of 
>> them being connected to your phone. 
>> 
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Re: AirPods?

2021-07-13 Thread Pete Nalda
I already use the larger inserts, and they’ll still slip out when nobile. Thank 
goodness I have a plastic neck band with rubber lanyards that go over the stem 
to catch them should they pop out, which they always do. Maybe Apple should’ve 
included an even larger insert. 

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> On Jul 13, 2021, at 12:35 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> This is a bit of a generalisation about the airpods pro,
> 
> Mine don't fall out easy,
> 
> Same with my airpods second gen,
> 
> They don't fall out either,
> 
> If you have the airpods pro and they fall out easy,
> I'd suggest trying the different probably larger sized ear inserts 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 3:41 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AirPods?
> 
> First the wired Apple in ear phones are called EarPods, whereas all AirPods 
> models are wireless. One thing I’ll say about the AirPod pros, and that’s 
> they fall out easy!  Granted, you can buy a neck lanyard to retain them, 
> highly recommend, or just use EarPods, which may not fit as well, but have no 
> noise cancellation or ambience feature, but are tethered by the nature of 
> them being connected to your phone. 
> 
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Re: airpods?

2021-07-12 Thread Pete Nalda
I must not have that good of hearing them! I really can’t tell the difference!

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> On Jul 12, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> The conventional wisdom is that all other things being equal, wired trumps 
> wireless in terms of audio quality.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Pete Nalda" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: airpods?
> 
> 
> I’d be hard put to tell the difference in sound between wired and wireless.
> 
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>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>> 
>> Do air Pods sounds as good as wired headphones? I thought this was the
>> reason why the guys at cell phone stores walked around playing music
>> with wires coming out of their ears.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 7/12/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> It's the case, if you want to call it that, that comes with the Airpods max.
>>> It basically only covers the ear pieces themselves, and resembles a bra in
>>> shape.
>>> it is also referred to as a pouch, which might better describe it.
>>> It has a magnetic closure which supposedly puts the headset into a deeper
>>> sleep, conserving battery charge.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Simon A Fogarty
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:45 PM
>>> Subject: RE: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sorry but what is the bra case?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Star Gazer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 8:36 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So let me ask, how do you charge the bra case? I’ve never seen these
>>> cases, do the buds just hang out in the case until they’re ready to be used?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Andy Baracco
>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> it does resemble a Bra!  LOL!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - Original Message -
>>> 
>>>   From: Richard Turner
>>> 
>>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>>   Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 1:05 PM
>>> 
>>>   Subject: RE: airpods?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Apple Airpods Max, Space Gray Review updated July 12, 2021 after a few
>>> months of use.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I received the Airpods Max in January and unboxed them and was surprised
>>> how very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but
>>> holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams
>>> quality!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people
>>> call the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would
>>> go with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the
>>> descriptions I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of
>>> thing that was kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's
>>> clothing.  However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon. My
>>> wife says it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a
>>> purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its
>>> own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Now, as for the headphones themselves…
>>> 
>>>   I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average
>>> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting
>>> them on.
>>> 
>>>   Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits
>>> how much I'll want to have them on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   But, if you want amazingly

AirPods?

2021-07-12 Thread Pete Nalda
First the wired Apple in ear phones are called EarPods, whereas all AirPods 
models are wireless. One thing I’ll say about the AirPod pros, and that’s they 
fall out easy!  Granted, you can buy a neck lanyard to retain them, highly 
recommend, or just use EarPods, which may not fit as well, but have no noise 
cancellation or ambience feature, but are tethered by the nature of them being 
connected to your phone. 

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Re: airpods?

2021-07-12 Thread Pete Nalda
They also may not be safe for walking in town, and, are not water proof. I do 
wear mine walking to the dog park or convenience store where no street crossing 
is needed. 

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> On Jul 12, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Airpods max are over the ear headphones. The audio is truly awesome, and 
> they are comfortable to wear, but as I said previously, they are not buds, 
> and the price starts at $549.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Star Gazer
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 12:40 PM
> Subject: RE: airpods?
> 
>Can you send me a link 
> to the air max?
> Why do you like them? I found some wired ear buds in my purse yesterday so 
> now I’m thinking about if I want the wireless version
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 3:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: airpods?
>  
> I have the original Air pfods and I think the audio is great, but i can't get 
> them to stay in my ears.  i also have the Air Pods Max and they are truly 
> awesome, but a different product altogether, and much more expensive, but 
> worth it, at least for me.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Star Gazer
> To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 12:36 PM
> Subject: airpods?
>  
> Hi. I’m thinking of getting some, though probably a less expensive of what 
> Apple sells.
> Any drawbacks to airpods or that technology?
>  
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Re: airpods?

2021-07-12 Thread Pete Nalda
Oops, my Bad. Thanks for setting me straight. 

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> On Jul 12, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pete,
> I believe Apple only calls the Max, Airpods Max, without the word Pro.
> Airpods Pro refers to the in-ear high-end model.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: airpods?
>  
> There are different Apple model. Some without noise cancellation/ambient 
> mode, and those with. The ones with are called AirPod Pros, and then there’s 
> an AirPod Pro Max, which is over the head, and has the Pro features. Those 
> are the most expensive. 
> 
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> 
> On Jul 12, 2021, at 2:36 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi. I’m thinking of getting some, though probably a less expensive of what 
> Apple sells.
> Any drawbacks to airpods or that technology?
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: airpods?

2021-07-12 Thread Pete Nalda
I’d be hard put to tell the difference in sound between wired and wireless. 

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> On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Do air Pods sounds as good as wired headphones? I thought this was the
> reason why the guys at cell phone stores walked around playing music
> with wires coming out of their ears.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/12/21, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> It's the case, if you want to call it that, that comes with the Airpods max.
>> It basically only covers the ear pieces themselves, and resembles a bra in
>> shape.
>> it is also referred to as a pouch, which might better describe it.
>> It has a magnetic closure which supposedly puts the headset into a deeper
>> sleep, conserving battery charge.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Simon A Fogarty
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:45 PM
>>  Subject: RE: airpods?
>> 
>> 
>>  Sorry but what is the bra case?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Star Gazer
>>  Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 8:36 am
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: RE: airpods?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  So let me ask, how do you charge the bra case? I’ve never seen these
>> cases, do the buds just hang out in the case until they’re ready to be used?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Andy Baracco
>>  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 4:31 PM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: Re: airpods?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  it does resemble a Bra!  LOL!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Andy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>- Original Message -
>> 
>>From: Richard Turner
>> 
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>>Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 1:05 PM
>> 
>>Subject: RE: airpods?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Apple Airpods Max, Space Gray Review updated July 12, 2021 after a few
>> months of use.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>I received the Airpods Max in January and unboxed them and was surprised
>> how very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but
>> holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams
>> quality!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people
>> call the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would
>> go with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the
>> descriptions I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of
>> thing that was kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's
>> clothing.  However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My
>> wife says it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a
>> purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its
>> own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Now, as for the headphones themselves…
>> 
>>I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average
>> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting
>> them on.
>> 
>>Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits
>> how much I'll want to have them on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with
>> Apple, they are fabulous!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
>> 
>> 
>>There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are
>> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency
>> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without
>> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike
>> other things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So,
>> if someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left
>> side.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so
>> it can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise
>> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>I 

Re: airpods?

2021-07-12 Thread Pete Nalda
There are different Apple model. Some without noise cancellation/ambient mode, 
and those with. The ones with are called AirPod Pros, and then there’s an 
AirPod Pro Max, which is over the head, and has the Pro features. Those are the 
most expensive. 

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> On Jul 12, 2021, at 2:36 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi. I’m thinking of getting some, though probably a less expensive of what 
> Apple sells.
> Any drawbacks to airpods or that technology?
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Re: Speak screen, Expand speaking bar. What is this?

2021-06-22 Thread Pete Nalda
It’s for people with low vision who might not need voiceover. I like it, 
because it’ll read a book with the iPhone sleeping, which voiceover can’t do. 

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> On Jun 22, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> What exactly is speak screen? What does it do? How is it helpful with the use 
> of the phone.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> Yes. You can either expand the speaking bar, by double tapping I think, 
>> then tap on “stop”, or go to settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > 
>> Speak screen and turn it off. See if either of those help.
>> Devin Prater
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>>> Hi all,
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>>>  
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Re: iPad 8th gen

2021-06-06 Thread Pete Nalda
Yeah, they have to support usb audio for music applications. So any usb audio 
device, be it usb headset, or lightning adaptor will get audio. 

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> On Jun 5, 2021, at 10:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  My first gen SE supports lightning earphones along with the 3.5 MM jack. 
> So I'd be very surprised if it didn't.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 8:13 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Larry & Richard, 
>> 
>> Apologies for giving the wrong response earlier to this question. I checked 
>> the wrong resource when looking it up. The Apple Store app did not give me 
>> the same details as the link you provided for the tech specs. Thanks for 
>> pointing this out. 
>> 
>> One question - since it has the 3.5mm jack, then does it not support the 
>> lightning connector / earbud setup that the iphone 7 supports? 
>> 
>> Dave Clement
>> Winnipeg MB
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Larry is correct.
>> It does.
>> Here is a link to the technical specifications for the 8th Gen  iPad:
>> iPad (8th generation) - Technical specifications (apple.com)
>>  
>> Someone had said it didn’t have the 3.5 jack; but Apple says it does.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>>  
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Lumpkin
>> Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 3:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPad 8th gen
>>  
>> It does.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> scribbles...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 3:23 PM
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>>  
>> Does the 8th gen 10.2 inch have the 3.5mm headphone jack?
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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

2021-05-26 Thread Pete Nalda
There are lots of guide dog users that have signs that say, “Don’t Pet me, I’m 
working”. I prefer saying it myself, as I like to educate the public. 

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> On May 26, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Believe it or not, most guide dog users can be taught to say this as well 
> although I usually say it in slightly less offensive language.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> - The Washington Post
> Importance: High
>  
> possibly, but unlike the real dog, one won't have to be so concerned about it 
> getting too distracted by such attention, and the robot one could very easily 
> even be programmed to say something along the lines of, "buzz off, I'm trying 
> to do a job here, and you are not helping"
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 9:51 PM
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> - The Washington Post
>  
> By nature, people are curious. Anything different will attract their 
> attention. Rightly or wrongly, one of the things I like about being a guide 
> dog owner is that I feel the attention tends to go to the dog rather than me. 
> A robot guide dog is likely to draw just as much attention.
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Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote

2021-05-25 Thread Pete Nalda
I’ll be curious to hear how it works out! Ordered mine just before reading your 
post on here. I had just come across a review of it on CNET and immediately 
pulled the plug. I also hated the thinness of the original  4K remote. 

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> On May 25, 2021, at 7:52 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Pete,
> 
> My new remote should arrie today or tomorrow 
> I don't have atmos either but I'm just keen to get my hands on the jog and 
> direction features of the new device to see if it makes any difference in 
> direction / and betters useability 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 12:04 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote
> 
> Ok. So, since I’ve found out the vizio sound bar I have doesn’t support Dolby 
> atmos, I feel better about upgrading the remote only. I’m hoping that with 
> the new remote and voiceover, I’ll be able to navigate easier up and down 
> rather than just across. Also, I seem to be entering the rotor by accident 
> with the old touch screen remote. 
> 
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>> On May 25, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Note the apple tv 4k (new) supports the dolby atmos format,
>> 
>> But without the speakers to work with it you don't just get dolby 
>> atmos,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If the home pods support atmos,
>> Great but does your sound bar?
>> 
>> I believe the newer sonos arc and base do but my sonos play bar 
>> doesn't, Neither do the sonos play 1 speakers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 5:24 am
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I am using a LG 4k TV. I honestly couldn’t tell you more than that though. 
>> As long as you have the new Apple TV, you’ll be able to use the Dolby Atmos 
>> audio as the Apple TV is what makes that possible. The toughest part of the 
>> Dolby Atmos is finding content that supports the format. I haven’t found any 
>> as of right now. I’ll keep looking though.
>> 
>> I had the sound bar set up in a different HDMI port and for some reason I 
>> was still getting audio through it, but it was with a 1 second delay or so. 
>> I made using both the HomePods and the sound bar unbearable. I even turned 
>> off the ARC function on the Apple TV and just tried using the sound bar with 
>> the HomePods connected via Airplay like I use to with the 4th gen Apple TV, 
>> and the delay was still there as well.
>> 
>> I might have to just stop using the sound bar all together in the living 
>> room and stick with the HomePods, I find the audio to be better rounded and 
>> voices are much clearer as well.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>>> On May 25, 2021, at 9:41 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> There are instructions for how to get that audio to come through the 
>>> homePod. It sounds like you did that. And once done, I had the impression 
>>> that all the audio would go to the HomePods, and nothing to the sound bar. 
>>> So I’m sort of surprised you’re getting any sound from the sound bar. But 
>>> apparently you also have to have a TV with the ability to pass through 
>>> certain formats. I’m trying to figure out if my fire TV will make the 
>>> grade. I want the Dolby Atmos etc. What sort of TV are you using?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On May 25, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> I have also noticed some weird behaviors with the HomePods… 1. If 
>>>> you have a sound bar connected directly to the Apple TV or your TV set and 
>>>> your HomePods connected with Airplay to the Apple TV there is a noticeable 
>>>> lag with the audio from the sound bar. I am beating my head over the desk 
>>>> trying to figure out how to fix the lag in the audio. Currently I have 
>>>> only my HomePods connected with Airplay and I am also using the ARC 
>>>> channel so that my TV, Playstation 5 and my wife's Nintendo Switch come 
>>>> through the HomePod speakers. 

Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote

2021-05-25 Thread Pete Nalda
Ok. So, since I’ve found out the vizio sound bar I have doesn’t support Dolby 
atmos, I feel better about upgrading the remote only. I’m hoping that with the 
new remote and voiceover, I’ll be able to navigate easier up and down rather 
than just across. Also, I seem to be entering the rotor by accident with the 
old touch screen remote. 

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> On May 25, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Note the apple tv 4k (new) supports the dolby atmos format,
> 
> But without the speakers to work with it you don't just get dolby atmos,
> 
> 
> 
> If the home pods support atmos,
> Great but does your sound bar?
> 
> I believe the newer sonos arc and base do but my sonos play bar doesn't,
> Neither do the sonos play 1 speakers.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 5:24 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I am using a LG 4k TV. I honestly couldn’t tell you more than that though. As 
> long as you have the new Apple TV, you’ll be able to use the Dolby Atmos 
> audio as the Apple TV is what makes that possible. The toughest part of the 
> Dolby Atmos is finding content that supports the format. I haven’t found any 
> as of right now. I’ll keep looking though.
> 
> I had the sound bar set up in a different HDMI port and for some reason I was 
> still getting audio through it, but it was with a 1 second delay or so. I 
> made using both the HomePods and the sound bar unbearable. I even turned off 
> the ARC function on the Apple TV and just tried using the sound bar with the 
> HomePods connected via Airplay like I use to with the 4th gen Apple TV, and 
> the delay was still there as well.
> 
> I might have to just stop using the sound bar all together in the living room 
> and stick with the HomePods, I find the audio to be better rounded and voices 
> are much clearer as well.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On May 25, 2021, at 9:41 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ed,
>> There are instructions for how to get that audio to come through the 
>> homePod. It sounds like you did that. And once done, I had the impression 
>> that all the audio would go to the HomePods, and nothing to the sound bar. 
>> So I’m sort of surprised you’re getting any sound from the sound bar. But 
>> apparently you also have to have a TV with the ability to pass through 
>> certain formats. I’m trying to figure out if my fire TV will make the grade. 
>> I want the Dolby Atmos etc. What sort of TV are you using?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 25, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> I have also noticed some weird behaviors with the HomePods… 1. If you 
>>> have a sound bar connected directly to the Apple TV or your TV set and your 
>>> HomePods connected with Airplay to the Apple TV there is a noticeable lag 
>>> with the audio from the sound bar. I am beating my head over the desk 
>>> trying to figure out how to fix the lag in the audio. Currently I have only 
>>> my HomePods connected with Airplay and I am also using the ARC channel so 
>>> that my TV, Playstation 5 and my wife's Nintendo Switch come through the 
>>> HomePod speakers. I am actually pleased with the sound quality and I might 
>>> not even reconnect the sound bar.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for telling us about this new remote,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm waiting on mine to arrive,
>>>> 
>>>> Hopefully tomorrow!
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf 
>>>> Of Ed Worrell
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2021 10:21 am
>>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>> Subject: Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> The new Apple TV remote is a large improvement from the previous model. I 
>>>> would compare it to the 3rd generation Apple TV, with some of the features 
>>>> of the Apple TV HD and up.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. It has physical buttons arranged in a circle at the top of the remote 
>>>> and these are used for navigation, think of it like a directional pad with 
>>>> the up, down, left an

Re: Regarding sending e-mails, and replying to e-mails.

2021-05-19 Thread Pete Nalda
If you reply control R it goes to the group. You’d have to copy/paste her 
address in a new email to privately send to her alone. 

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Re: Music on my iPhone.

2021-05-18 Thread Pete Nalda
Do you have music on your phone. If so, then it should show up automatically if 
you’ve an iCloud account. If that’s not working, you’ll need to sync with 
iTunes on your desktop or laptop computer, where all your media is. 

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> On May 18, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> First, I've never even tried to get any. 
> 
> Second, how do I get music like I do on my computer, just
> get stuff to play now and then? 
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> I have an iPhone 11, with 14.5.1. 
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Re: rooder volume

2021-05-12 Thread Pete Nalda
OK when I do the rotor, all I see is speaking rate, and speak screen after 
delay.

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> On May 12, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> 
> Hi,
> First, if you don’t mind, a little spelling correction.
> Rotor is spelled r o t o r.
> Check the VoiceOver Rotor settings, and find Volume and make sure it says 
> “selected.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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>  
>  
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> Gazer
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> To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
> Subject: rooder volume
>  
> Hi.
> It looks like the rodder volume feature should be in my rodder settings. It 
> isn’t. How do I add it? It’s not there no matter if my phone is paired to an 
> external speaker or not, all I can use is the volume buttons and I’d like to 
> use the rodder
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Re: AppleTv and Voiceover

2021-05-11 Thread Pete Nalda
Already have voiceover on. I went ahead and went to voiceover in accessibility 
and turned it on there as I had  previously made zoom the accessibility 
shortcut, now I have voiceover what I want to do is change the volume of speech

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> On May 11, 2021, at 7:53 PM, Tali Sarnetzky  wrote:
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> I believe you can press the somewhat depressed button, the top left
> one, three times and it should turn voice over on.
> 
>> On 5/12/21, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> I noticed there’s no voiceover setting menu other than on or off,
>> Is speech characteristics somewhere else?  Tia.
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Re: AppleTv and Voiceover

2021-05-11 Thread Pete Nalda
Speech volume

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> On May 11, 2021, at 8:01 PM, Richard Turner  
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> What characteristics are you looking for?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> I noticed there's no voiceover setting menu other than on or off, Is speech 
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AppleTv and Voiceover

2021-05-11 Thread Pete Nalda
I noticed there’s no voiceover setting menu other than on or off, 
Is speech characteristics somewhere else?  Tia. 

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Re: Arboleaf scale

2021-05-07 Thread Pete Nalda
This is an oversight I made in talking about this model, I cheated setting up, 
using residual vision and Zoom to set up initially, I tried today to set up a 
guest user, and I did the height, using voiceover, to duplicate the scenario, 
and got through the height pickers, then weight disappeared completely. So I’m 
baffled by this as well. Was hoping to find a customer service number or email 
in the FAQ, but couldn’t find anything. 

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> On May 7, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Kayla King  wrote:
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> Hello to all,
> I thought I would try this scale as an alternative to my Withings. However, 
> for some reason I can’t enter my weight or height when trying to set up my 
> account.
> Did anybody else struggle with this?
> Thanks for any help.
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Re: Withings scale

2021-05-06 Thread Pete Nalda
I tried going with the cardio, but went instead with the arboleaf as seen here. 
Arboleaf Smart Scales for Body Weight, Wi-Fi Bluetooth Bathroom Scales, Scales 
Digital Weight and Body Fat, 14 Body Metrics, iOS Android APP, Wireless 
Cloud-Storage, Unlimited Data, 8 Users, BMR BMI 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DLBBFS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6X4KJG8PS93GYGXB1AB0?_encoding=UTF8=1
 I find it was pretty accessible and no other app was needed. 

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> On May 6, 2021, at 2:43 PM, GS  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> I have the version below the Cardio which is the Body+. The Cardio is the one 
> that recently added the cardiovascular features.
> 
> The measurements generally integrate with Apple Health, and can also be 
> viewed using the Health Mate app. The Health Mate app is not going to win an 
> accessibility award. It is generally usable. At one point it was very 
> difficult to enter some of the baseline information such as height, gender, 
> etc. I am not sure if that has become more accessible because I have not 
> tried to access these parts of the app in a couple of years. The way I seem 
> to have things configured, I must open the Health Mate app in order for the 
> measurements to be synchronized with Apple Health. I cannot say I like that 
> at all.
> 
> You can also get to the information using a browser-based interface that is 
> also rather quirky but that works, for the most part.
> 
> If you are looking for something that is really effortless and absolutely, 
> 100 percent accessible, Withings may not be for you. 
> 
> I have found that the measurements are extremely accurate as long as you have 
> a level floor.
> 
> The scales are designed to work for multiple users. Withings attempts to 
> match the measurements of each user based on weight. There are rare occasions 
> when the matching fails and the measurements go into an unassigned category. 
> You can use the app to assign the unassigned measurement to a user. If you 
> only have one user, I assume this would never be an issue.
> 
> One additional note regarding assignment of measurements: it is possible to 
> assign measurements to a user while standing on the scale. This involves 
> leaning to the right or left and placing more weight on one leg or the other 
> to change the assignment.
> 
> The version of the Body+ that I have only connects to a 2.4GHz wifi network. 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 1:14 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Withings scale
> 
> I just saw an article about this scale, which sells for a not insignificant 
> sum of $150 either directly from the vendor or from Amazon. Apparently, it 
> gives you all sorts of measurements, and of course it connects with the 
> iPhone. My question is: does anyone have this? If so, how well does it work 
> with voiceover? Paying that much to get a bunch of measurements that I can’t 
> read is not in my plan. Smile.
> Mary
> 
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Re: IPhone 12 call quality and reliability?

2021-04-24 Thread Pete Nalda
I find the sound a bit better, and the slightly longer screen helps in showing 
even more information even with voiceover. If you’ve residual vision the better 
camera with 5x magnification provides a clearer image as well. 

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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:40 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete,
> 
> Thanks for your reply, out of interest apart from storage what do you find 
> the advantages are of the 12 Pro Max over the XR from a blind person’s 
> perspective?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 24 Apr 2021, at 13:10, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
>> I find that my 12proMax is not that much bigger than my XR was. I will 
>> occasionally lose a call, but I love in a concrete steel building, and I use 
>> Wi-Fi calling. As for the size, going back to that, it’s only about .6 
>> inches bigger all the way around, and doesn’t feel all that much different. 
>> Yes there is a little bit more mass, but I think overall I made a good 
>> choice. I feel like I was due an upgrade, as I wanted more storage. For what 
>> it’s worth, my phone still fits in my military style belt clip case just 
>> fine.
>> 
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>> 
>>>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Simon I completely agree with you better is always ahead of us.
>>> 
>>> Obviously the camera is not as important to us, how many of us take photos 
>>> I wonder?
>>> 
>>> But if the improved cameras improve the performance of apps like Seeing AI 
>>> and Envision AI then that’s another story.
>>> 
>>> Then there’s Lidar I don’t see much being made of this in the apps 
>>> developed for us.  Perhaps Lidar Has some benefit to us in standard apps 
>>> and I would welcome any feedback members have on this.
>>> 
>>> So my options as I see it are to keep my XR upgrade to a 12 or refer in the 
>>> hope the 13 offers significant advantages.
>>> 
>>> The size of the 12 Pro Max is a little concerning I wonder how it compares 
>>> to an XR?
>>> 
>>> Too many options really confusing!
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>>>> On 24 Apr 2021, at 12:51, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You are looking at approx. 4 months
>>>> May be 5 away from the next phone being presented to the markets,
>>>> Either released in late September / October like previous years,
>>>>  
>>>> And it will be a better device with upgraded 5g technology and a new 
>>>> processor,
>>>> But then next year will have even better if you can wait that long.
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 24 April 2021 11:48 pm
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone 12 call quality and reliability?
>>>>  
>>>> Hello Dennis,
>>>>  
>>>> I take your point, but my XR trade in value would be reduced also by that 
>>>> time.
>>>>  
>>>> I suppose you have to take the plunge and update at sometime knowing newer 
>>>> technology is often just around the corner.
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 24 Apr 2021, at 12:31, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm my personal opinion is to wait for the 13.  You will maximize the 
>>>> number of updates you will get.  You will also get the latest chip etc.
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 5:43 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: IPhone 12 call quality and reliability?
>>>>  
>>>> Hello Friends,
>>>>  
>>>> I know some of you will have had your iPhone 12’s  for some time now in 
>>>> all its incarnations.
>>>>  
>>>> My contract here in the UK is due to expire imminently.
>>>>  
>>>> I was considering an iPhone12 model until I read this forum:
>>>>  
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252092357
>>>>  
>>>> So my qu

Re: IPhone 12 call quality and reliability?

2021-04-24 Thread Pete Nalda
I find that my 12proMax is not that much bigger than my XR was. I will 
occasionally lose a call, but I love in a concrete steel building, and I use 
Wi-Fi calling. As for the size, going back to that, it’s only about .6 inches 
bigger all the way around, and doesn’t feel all that much different. Yes there 
is a little bit more mass, but I think overall I made a good choice. I feel 
like I was due an upgrade, as I wanted more storage. For what it’s worth, my 
phone still fits in my military style belt clip case just fine.

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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Simon I completely agree with you better is always ahead of us.
> 
> Obviously the camera is not as important to us, how many of us take photos I 
> wonder?
> 
> But if the improved cameras improve the performance of apps like Seeing AI 
> and Envision AI then that’s another story.
> 
> Then there’s Lidar I don’t see much being made of this in the apps developed 
> for us.  Perhaps Lidar Has some benefit to us in standard apps and I would 
> welcome any feedback members have on this.
> 
> So my options as I see it are to keep my XR upgrade to a 12 or refer in the 
> hope the 13 offers significant advantages.
> 
> The size of the 12 Pro Max is a little concerning I wonder how it compares to 
> an XR?
> 
> Too many options really confusing!
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 24 Apr 2021, at 12:51, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> You are looking at approx. 4 months
>> May be 5 away from the next phone being presented to the markets,
>> Either released in late September / October like previous years,
>>  
>> And it will be a better device with upgraded 5g technology and a new 
>> processor,
>> But then next year will have even better if you can wait that long.
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Saturday, 24 April 2021 11:48 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IPhone 12 call quality and reliability?
>>  
>> Hello Dennis,
>>  
>> I take your point, but my XR trade in value would be reduced also by that 
>> time.
>>  
>> I suppose you have to take the plunge and update at sometime knowing newer 
>> technology is often just around the corner.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>> 
>> On 24 Apr 2021, at 12:31, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Malcolm my personal opinion is to wait for the 13.  You will maximize the 
>> number of updates you will get.  You will also get the latest chip etc.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 5:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: IPhone 12 call quality and reliability?
>>  
>> Hello Friends,
>>  
>> I know some of you will have had your iPhone 12’s  for some time now in all 
>> its incarnations.
>>  
>> My contract here in the UK is due to expire imminently.
>>  
>> I was considering an iPhone12 model until I read this forum:
>>  
>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252092357
>>  
>> So my question is how have you found call quality especially those made over 
>> what we here in the UK call a mobile network.
>>  
>> Have you experienced failed calls, bad quality calls or dropped calls?
>>  
>> I would appreciate any thoughts.
>>  
>> I know I could wait for the iPhone13 but thoughts on the 12 please.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Does this Cable for the iPhone Exist?

2021-04-21 Thread Pete Nalda
Have not seen that anywhere else, But Apple have a female headphone mini  jack  
to lightning adapter. 

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> On Apr 21, 2021, at 3:41 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Its called a lightning to 3.55mm headphone cable
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Lightning-Braided-Compatible-Headphone/dp/B08KT7Z216/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1=lightning+to+headphone+cable=1618994342=8-1-spons=1=A196L82CRPSZNW=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzUFNHT09BQUZHMk9CJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjcxMDY4MU4xU0pLSFJBUTc5WiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTAzNDk2MzREUkJTODlIRlBaTCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
>  
> Do your searcgh, some of these have caused me a bit of problems in their 
> quality.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Juan
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
> Fettgather
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 3:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Does this Cable for the iPhone Exist?
>  
> Hi to the list.
> At one time, I had a patch chord that would connect to the iPhone through a 
> 3.5 inch adapter and then to the lightning plug through an adapter to the 
> output of the iPhone..
> The other end of this chord was a USB connector.
> This chord would somehow magically allow the iPhone to be seen as an 
> alternative input device, thereby allowing me to record directly from the 
> iPhone onto the PC using any recording program.
> I have looked and looked all over Amazon, but cannot find this chord again.
> As I say, it was wonderful to be able to record the audio output from the 
> iPhone right on to the PC.
> Just curious if anyone knows about this type of chord, or what it might be 
> called, or does it still exist?
> Any assistance appreciated!  
> Thanks.
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Re: Headset

2021-04-21 Thread Pete Nalda
You would need an an adapter to go from usb to lightening plug. Or use a hub of 
some sort. 

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> On Apr 21, 2021, at 5:55 AM, Steve Cook  wrote:
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> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I have a USB headset that I use on my laptop. Would it be possible to use 
> this USB headset with my iPhone?
>  
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Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

2021-04-06 Thread Pete Nalda
Thank you for the heads up! Unfortunately I already Had  ordered it, based on 
the price and availability. Someone had mentioned maybe on another list of 
cardio-based but that was out of stock. When I found out it was android only, I 
thought well maybe I can see the display on the scale itself and don’t worry 
about the other stuff I certainly hope it is compatible and easy enough to set 
up on the iOS device. I myself am high partial so I can see somethings with 
magnification and withoutVoiceover. Keep us posted

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> On Apr 6, 2021, at 4:01 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Might I suggest browsing the Arboleaf web site at:
> 
> www.arboleaf.com
> 
> I downloaded the Arboleaf iOS app and found it impossible to complete 
> registration to their services.  Now granted, I have not yet purchased a 
> scale from them, but I find it quite unusual for that wee tiny bit of detail 
> to prevent anybody from registering on the web site.  I plan to call them 
> later this morning to make certain I haven’t signed up previously, an already 
> existing associated with my e-mail address most likely be a good reason for 
> my troubles.
> 
> BTW: I really appreciate this thread because I have been looking for an app 
> accessible scale to monitor my stats!
> 
> 
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Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

2021-04-05 Thread Pete Nalda
This one has Wi-Fi. It’s about the fifth or sixth one down when I did a search 
foraboleaf scale

Arboleaf Smart Scale, Wi-Fi Bluetooth Weight Scale, 14 Body Composition Monitor 
with iOS Android APP, Wireless Cloud-Storage for Unlimited Data, 8 Users, BMR 
BMI Scales Digital Weight and Body Fat
by mozdius
Learn more: 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DLBBFS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_PCP09P3KS5D1DB1QQBQW

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> On Apr 4, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> I looked at the arboleaf scale on amazon and it is definitely in my
> price range right now.  Does it just use bluetooth or is it wifi
> connected as well.  The description was unclear about the
> connectivity.  I would prefer to have something wifi enabled so I
> don't have to have my phone with me when i get on the scale since I
> usually leave my iPhone in my office to charge at night and I would
> want to use the scale first thing in the morning.
> 
>> On 3/29/21, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> A couple years ago, we bought the Arboleaf scale. The iPhone app works well
>> with Voiceover. This scale measures weight, body fat, BMI, water, muscle
>> mass, medibolic age, and BMR.
>> 
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that are
>>> iOS/VoiceOver friendly.
>>> 
>>> I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing it
>>> on amazon.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?
>>> 
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AirPod Pro vs. Max

2021-04-04 Thread Pete Nalda
Since, a while back I brought up a dialogue about using AirPod max outdoors, in 
public and away from home. There are issues that have been discussed. That 
said, I have done some introspection, and decided to make use of my AirPod pros 
again. 
 What I find, is that there are steps that can be taken to keep the device 
from being lost should they fall out of the ear. One search device are the ear 
clips, which I have found that I cannot absolutely cannot stand, they are 
probably better for me, because I don’t tend to stick the AirPods tightly into 
my ears. That is the problem for me, I love my bass and if The AirPods are not 
sitting firmly in the ear canal, you lose base response. I feel like I lose 
some already compared to the AirPod max. VE other option is the little straps 
that you can buy to go around your neck to secure The devices from falling 
completely off. Be careful with this option though, as there are two options 
out there on Amazon. Choose the more expensive option, the less expensive 
option seems to be incompatible with the pro version of the AirPods. Something 
about where they sit on the stem. The $12.95 option seems to be compatible with 
the AirPod pros. 
Another aspect of the virtues of the AirPod pro, is that you can wear any type 
of hat, and you don’t have to remove the device to put on mask mask. That’s 
something that’s really convenient. Will I use my max less now, probably so. 
And to me, I’m not so sure that justifies the price. But I have them, and I 
will keep them for here at home. I can still use them for trips outside, where 
I don’t have to confront traffic, and I can quickly move inside should 
inclement weather present itself. So all in all I think I love both devices, 
and they both have their pros and cons. Another con of the AirPod max before I 
forget is also weather. In terms of heat, they are hot on the head just a 
little bit, due to their weight. So in closing again I do love both devices.

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Re: Impressions of Airpods Max

2021-04-03 Thread Pete Nalda
Also, try the  hip-hop eq. It enhances both the treble and bass frequencies, 
which to me makes things just a little bit clearer. It really helps with both 
types of AirPods. With your pod Max in a pressure on your here, it might feel 
weird at first, but I guarantee you clarity is key here. And whatever device 
you use for your listening, to me it just enhances the sound really well. 
That’s sitting we will particularly shine on the AirPod Max!

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> On Apr 3, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, there isn't a ton of adjustments, but check these two places.
> Settings, Music, EQ which is under the playback heading in the music settings.
> Also, Settings, Accessibility, Airpods.
> You can do some customization under accessibility accomodation.
> I ended up leaving mine where they are by default, but sound is so very 
> personal, you may find something there that helps.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
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> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> How do you adjust the EQ?
>>  
>> Andy
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: Impressions of Airpods Max
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Andy,
>> I think that tinny sound is just because you are getting the higher 
>> frequencies from outside. I find I can live with it because it reduces, if 
>> not removes, that sense of pressure.
>> But, of course, all this is personal preference/comfort.
>> I think you may be able to play some with the EQ that might help when noise 
>> cancelation is on. It will be interesting to see how it goes.
>> I have not heard anything that sounded this good in a headphone.
>> Enjoy,
>> 
>>>> On Apr 3, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I received my Airpods Max on Thursday but because i was busy, I didn't get 
>>> to them right away.
>>>  
>>> Thanks to Richard's great instructions and the Tech Doctor podcast setup 
>>> was easy, taking only a few minutes.
>>> I haven't listened to much music, but what I have listened to sounded great.
>>> I was on a 2 hour Zoom meeting today, and i noticed that after about a half 
>>> hour my ears started to hurt from the pressure.  The meeting lasted for 
>>> about 2 hours and I was glad it was finally over.  The only other thing 
>>> that stuck out was a kind of tinny quality to the audio when in 
>>> transparency mode.  I don't think I'll be using that mode much, as I will 
>>> generally be using them in the house.
>>> More later!
>>>  
>>> Andy
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Re: RE AirPods Max

2021-04-01 Thread Pete Nalda
Regarding an interesting thing that happened tonight involving my AirPod max. I 
was walking through our building, and the dog park, well I had decided to wear 
my ushenko  cap, which is like a trappers hat, along with my trench coat as it 
was brisk out and I noticed that the AirPods weren’t quite going up against my 
ears because of all that fluffy fur. So that is something One can consider if 
you wanted to wear it outside. But that’s a whole Nother ball of wax and we 
decided that might not be such a good idea

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> On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:21 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> LOL,hahaha
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2021 6:00 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: RE AirPods Max
>  
> You have to first stand on your head before you can put them in with the tips 
> pointing up
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE AirPods Max
>  
> I tried putting the AirPods second generation in my ears with the tips 
> pointing upward and it wasn’t comfortable at all for me either.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>  
> 
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 1:57 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anthony, I’m curious, what did you try that didn’t work for you either?
> Since you did not include the message you were replying to, I’m not sure what 
> you are referring to.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
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>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 10:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE AirPods Max
>  
> Hey Bonnie; I tried that also and it doesn’t work for me either. Stay safe
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:01 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> I can’t see how they could do that,
>  
> Mine don’t fit in to my ears upside down
>  
> So I’m guessing if people do this that their ears must be either oddly shaped 
> or the feeling is lesser in the ear socket.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 7:53 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE AirPods Max
>  
> I hear that a lot of people walk around with the original AirPods and AirPods 
> pro with them turned upside down so that the pointed part is up in the air. 
> This is supposedly to help them to fit more securely in the ear. I never had 
> a problem with them falling out, but my husband does. Even the ear tips on 
> the pros fall out for him! Must have big ears.
>  
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Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

2021-04-01 Thread Pete Nalda
https://store.getqardio.com/products/qardiobase Is where I was referring to. It 
does just say out of stock, and not unavailable. Which to me is a good thing, 
because they will replenish it. If it shows up on Amazon as unavailable, that 
will probably change if they get them back in stock if you want to go through 
Amazon. I’m a little funny about that you know now, as I’m starting to think 
well why not just go to the horses mouth as it were an order from The 
manufacturer

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> On Apr 1, 2021, at 1:40 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> the only thing by Qardio that amazon has at this time is a blood pressure 
> meter.
> - Original Message - From: "Janet Bell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone
> 
> 
> please could someone tell me if there is an idiont's guide to
> setting up and using these scales? Janet
> 
>> On 29/03/2021 20:55, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> Did you spell it correctly?  It’s qardio with a q, not the usual way of 
>> spelling cardio..
>> 
>> I have the qardio base 2 and love it.  The app works well with vo.  It 
>> easures weight, body fat, bmi, and muscle and bone massl.  You can also set 
>> goals with it.
>> 
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that are
>>> iOS/VoiceOver friendly.
>>> 
>>> I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing it
>>> on amazon.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?
>>> 
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Re: Air Pods Max Coming Tomorrow

2021-03-31 Thread Pete Nalda
It is my humble opinion, that I think you get what you pay for with AirPod max! 
Yes, it is very expensive, especially compared to competition, but feature per 
feature and solid construction, beautiful sound, crazy long battery life,Are 
well worth the money. Even if I have come to the conclusion that it’s best not 
to use them outdoors, I still think they were a good investment, and I will 
enjoy having them either that, or they’ll go to the pawnshop just kidding

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:49 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well, from the research I've done, the average starting salary in a factory 
> in China is equivilent to about $8 per hour in the US.
> That's below minimum wage in a lot of States in the USA.
> The average starting salary in a factory in the United States is a little 
> over $13 per hour.
> There are still lots of car factories in the US, and there are even Toyota 
> plants in the United States.
> The reality is this whole discussion demonstrates how overly complicated 
> international business is.
> All companies need to make a profit, so they will do what they need to do in 
> order to make  that happen. Some seemingly make needless amounts of money, 
> but they only make that money because people buy their products. If you have 
> a real objection to that, don't buy their products.
> My last thought on this topic is that our now former president's companies 
> that make productts are mostly, if not all, over seas. So much for America 
> first.
> 
> Ta ta for now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "
> great minds discuss ideas
> , 
> average minds discuss events
> , 
> small minds discuss people
> ." 
> --
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> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Marty Hutchings  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Not that I like the idea of made in China, but can you imagine the price for 
>> an Apple product made in the USA?  I think that they are way over priced as 
>> is.
>>  
>> Love in Christ
>> Marty
>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>>  
>> From: Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Air Pods Max Coming Tomorrow
>>  
>> Hey andy,
>>  
>>  
>> Welcome to the real world,
>>  
>> Manufacturing of these types of things is done in countrys such as China due 
>> to the lower costs of living and salarys paid to the workers.
>>  
>> This is why countries like the UsA don’t build cars anymore as it has gotten 
>> to cheap to build them in other countries,
>>  
>> Mind you I’d rather have something from Motor city and makes the noise of a 
>> real car as well as is structurally tough when you run in to someone,
>>  
>> Rather than one of the tin foil cars you get from say japan that you 
>> probably can’t hear.
>>  
>> And also apple products,
>>  
>> I think they use Chinese children
>> Who have very little fingers
>> So they can get in to the very tight spaces in those iPhones etc to put the 
>> very little screws in.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2021 8:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Air Pods Max Coming Tomorrow
>>  
>> i just received an Email update from UPS telling me that they will arrive 
>> tomorrow.  When I examined the tracking details, I saw that they were 
>> shipped from China.  That's the one thing that bothers me about Apple, 
>> mainly manufacturing their products in China rather than here in the U. S.
>>  
>> Andy
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Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

2021-03-31 Thread Pete Nalda
The website, which I just checked, says it’s out of stock, so maybe they’ll get 
more in. There’s no way to sign up for notification when they might be back on. 
If it were just unavailable I’d be worried. At least the site on my phone said 
it was out of stock

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Yeah the blood pressure cuff is still there but the scale is absolutely not. 
> Definitely spelling it correctly. I was planning to buy this too.
> I'm totally surprised that it's not there. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Caitlyn Furness
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 12:55 PM
> To: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone
> 
> Did you spell it correctly?  It’s qardio with a q, not the usual way of 
> spelling cardio..
> 
> I have the qardio base 2 and love it.  The app works well with vo.  It 
> easures weight, body fat, bmi, and muscle and bone massl.  You can also set 
> goals with it.
> 
> Caitlyn
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that are 
>> iOS/VoiceOver friendly.
>> 
>> I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing it 
>> on amazon.
>> 
>> Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?
>> 
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Re: Airpods Max Smart "Case" Description

2021-03-31 Thread Pete Nalda
Yes, I’ve made that mistake even though I can see the charging hole.

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> 
> That is right, but you want the right ear piece to be on the side where the 
> cutout is so you can plug them into the charger while in the case.
> I am going to go out on a limb here and say that also helps with putting them 
> into the deep sleep mode to save the battery.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Airpods Max Smart "Case" Description
>  
> I may have to take a look at that! I find that if I force them to turn out 
> words, they slide right in.
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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> I decided it was not 100% obvious that there is a right way to put the Max 
> headphones in the smart case, so I did a verbal description and put it on my 
> web site.
> www.turner42.com
>  
> If you need it it is there, if not, it is still there, grin.
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Re: Airpods Max Smart "Case" Description

2021-03-31 Thread Pete Nalda
I may have to take a look at that! I find that if I force them to turn out 
words, they slide right in.

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> 
> I decided it was not 100% obvious that there is a right way to put the Max 
> headphones in the smart case, so I did a verbal description and put it on my 
> web site.
> www.turner42.com
>  
> If you need it it is there, if not, it is still there, grin.
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AirPod Max and the AirPod Pro fallout issue

2021-03-30 Thread Pete Nalda
EarBuddyz 2.0 Ear Hooks and Covers Accessories Compatible with Apple AirPods or 
EarPods Headphones/Earphones/ Earbuds (3 Pairs) (Clear) 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019BREFE4/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_glt_fabc_QQ62C0CNA1CDN8N1K9J9


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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-30 Thread Pete Nalda
Never mind stranger not work, but I opted for the ear clips on Amazon for 10 
bucks anyway rather than a eck strap. Ear buddy clips. 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> Will think about that option.  I’m thinking a piece of string that would be 
> wadded up inside the the top of the charging case. Hate going back to no 
> physical volume control. 
> 
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>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just a note,
>> There are a product you can get that is a silicon strap like a shoe lace 
>> almost that has little socket like things at the ends that you can put the 
>> airpods in to or the stems of the airpods and they hold them around if you 
>> have them fall out of your ears,
>> 
>> The only real issue is that you have to take the pods out of them to put 
>> them back in to the charging case.
>> 
>> But they cost a few bucks from amazon and come in multiple colours
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
>> Yates
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 7:31 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
>> public when active outside
>> 
>> I got my AirPod pros last fall and considering the chunk of money I paid, 
>> I’m not about to go outdoors and walkabout with these things. They fit 
>> properly but anything can happen and I don’t want to risk losing one or both.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is also no product logo to speak of, so I think the assaulter 
>>> would have to be well-connected to even know what they are! In fact I 
>>> think Apple did a great job with this I see people walking around with 
>>> bows, Sony, or beats, and the product name is visibly noticeable these 
>>> things are just plain space gray
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, because most people think Apple products are white? I didn't realize 
>>>> that, probably because I got a black iPhone 11. I guess if I were worried 
>>>> about white Airpods being swiped off the top of my head, I'm not sure how 
>>>> much more safe I'd feel just because they were black.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Pete Nalda
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:15 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>>> 
>>>> It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger 
>>>> type would know what they are.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them 
>>>>> safer or less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Pete Nalda
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>>>> 
>>>>> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 

Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Texas has a Georgetown 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 9:10 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Ok, confusion question,
> 
> George town,
> I thought that was part of Washington Dc and had a major university of the 
> usA,
> 
> Or is there another George town?
> 
> Like springfield 
> Which I believe there is one in every state!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:32 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> I agree, if you're worried about people stealing them from you then you 
> probably shouldn't be wearing them outside, but here in my little town of 
> Georgetown, I definitely don't have that fear. In fact, someone found 
> something from Bose on the downtown square, and several people reached out to 
> me to ask if I had lost my Bose Frames, since they knew I was on the square 
> that day and I had my Bose Frames with me. BTW, I had not lost my Bose Frames!
> 
> --
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> I do not plan to wear them outdoors in public because I am afraid of someone 
> trying to take them from me.  Also, I do not believe that they are water 
> resistant.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pete Nalda" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:14 AM
> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public 
> when active outside
> 
> 
> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
> enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
> those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening 
> to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
> Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of 
> person.
> 
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Will think about that option.  I’m thinking a piece of string that would be 
wadded up inside the the top of the charging case. Hate going back to no 
physical volume control. 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just a note,
> There are a product you can get that is a silicon strap like a shoe lace 
> almost that has little socket like things at the ends that you can put the 
> airpods in to or the stems of the airpods and they hold them around if you 
> have them fall out of your ears,
> 
> The only real issue is that you have to take the pods out of them to put them 
> back in to the charging case.
> 
> But they cost a few bucks from amazon and come in multiple colours
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
> Yates
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 7:31 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> I got my AirPod pros last fall and considering the chunk of money I paid, I’m 
> not about to go outdoors and walkabout with these things. They fit properly 
> but anything can happen and I don’t want to risk losing one or both.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> There is also no product logo to speak of, so I think the assaulter 
>> would have to be well-connected to even know what they are! In fact I 
>> think Apple did a great job with this I see people walking around with 
>> bows, Sony, or beats, and the product name is visibly noticeable these 
>> things are just plain space gray
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, because most people think Apple products are white? I didn't realize 
>>> that, probably because I got a black iPhone 11. I guess if I were worried 
>>> about white Airpods being swiped off the top of my head, I'm not sure how 
>>> much more safe I'd feel just because they were black.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Pete Nalda
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:15 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger type 
>>> would know what they are.
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them 
>>>> safer or less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Pete Nalda
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>>> 
>>>> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
>>>> 
>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Love in Christ
>>>>> Marty
>>>>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>>>>> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, 

Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
They don’t have any logo. That’s the beauty. 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I'd assume that they hae the apple symbol on them somewhere,
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 7:15 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger type 
> would know what they are.
> 
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> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them 
>> safer or less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
>> 
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Pete Nalda
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about 
>> wearing in public when active outside
>> 
>> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
>> 
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>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Love in Christ
>>> Marty
>>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>>> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile 
>>> walking around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the 
>>> real world since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from 
>>> Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Pete Nalda
>>> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing 
>>> in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here 
>>> brave enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering 
>>> fodder for those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone 
>>> is listening to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And 
>>> without opening Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over 
>>> compliance kind of person.
>>> 
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
At least they won’t fall out when working like AirPod Pro’s would. 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:22 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> In my part of the state, we had about 8 to 10 inches of snow this year, which 
> is highly unusual.  I think the cities main elevation  is around 150 feet.
> The hills around here can get up to 1000 or 1200 feet and get a bit more 
> snow, but again that is very rare.
> We have gone several years with no snow and only a handful of nights that got 
> down to freezing.
>  
> And, I am not one to wear headphones outside anyway.
>  
> The number of days that stay at or below even 35° are very few.
> Summers, we rarely get to 100.  So, in reality, around Portland, they are 
> probably going to survive the elements if one wanted to walk around with them.
>  
> I plan to use them on our back patio when the weather is comfortable and dry 
> and I don’t have to be digging up weeds or pruning roses, etc.
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 5:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
>  
> Richard,
>  
> In your state,
> Don’t you get feet thick drifts of snow and freezing temps during winter 
> months?
>  
> So I’d be guessing the airpods max wouldn’t’ do well if uncovered and outside 
> during these times,
>  
> Min dyou the other end of the scale probably stands aw well,
> I’d be interested to know how they do for the winter months.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:56 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
>  
> One old curmudgeon to another, I get it completely.
> Living in Oregon, I would never even think of it outside of my own yard.
>  
> Now, as for keeping your ears warm, have you checked the safe temperature 
> range for these bad boys?
> You are probably OK in Austin, but someone in the north, or in Canada, etc., 
> would probably damage them unless they had a good hood on, which of course 
> would defeat the transparency mode….
>  
> Since you have a dog guide, you are much safer than those of us who use canes 
> in that case anyway.
>  
> Enjoy,
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
>  
> Well, it looks like I’m probably the only one stubborn enough To even try to 
> want to wear them about, but Austin does have dedicated bike lines, and as 
> far as somebody write down the sidewalk and hit me I’ll guarantee you with my 
> girth, that little bicycle is going to go down! Another thing I wanted to 
> mention about why am so hell bent crazy over wearing the Max around over the 
> Pro’s, is battery life. Being like 5 times longer!  Another luxurious feature 
> that you have is instant control over content volume, and for that matter, 
> content play back, no Siri or pinching needed! So to me it’s also a UX 
> feature. But I’m glad that this has brought such  a vital  discussion! As for 
> the afterShox, or bone conduction, no way for me, as I am just too picky 
> about Fidelity, even with voices, and phone calls! And the other sporty 
> options I would not pursue it unless they had both transparency and noise 
> canceling. But I might consider going back to just using the pros to run 
> around with. I can always leave the big boys at home, if I think I’m going to 
> encounter weather, although, when it was cold, they did keep my ears warm! So 
> for me, it boils down to the convenience of having direct control of volume, 
> and content play back.In other words I guess I’m just an old curmudgeon who 
> chooses to live on the edge for his own comfort and convenience. Like I said 
> I’m enjoying the conversation
> 
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Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
I’m going to have to get me one of these!

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you spell it correctly?  It’s qardio with a q, not the usual way of 
> spelling cardio..
> 
> I have the qardio base 2 and love it.  The app works well with vo.  It 
> easures weight, body fat, bmi, and muscle and bone massl.  You can also set 
> goals with it.
> 
> Caitlyn
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that are
>> iOS/VoiceOver friendly.
>> 
>> I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing it
>> on amazon.
>> 
>> Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?
>> 
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Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
I’m going to have to order one of these!

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> 
> qardio

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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
AirPod Max is a whole different beast, then AirPod pro. You can’t lose one side

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> I got my AirPod pros last fall and considering the chunk of money I paid, 
> I’m not about to go outdoors and walkabout with these things. They fit 
> properly but anything can happen and I don’t want to risk losing one or both.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> There is also no product logo to speak of, so I think the assaulter would 
>> have to be well-connected to even know what they are! In fact I think Apple 
>> did a great job with this I see people walking around with bows, Sony, or 
>> beats, and the product name is visibly noticeable these things are just 
>> plain space gray
>> 
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>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, because most people think Apple products are white? I didn't realize 
>>> that, probably because I got a black iPhone 11. I guess if I were worried 
>>> about white Airpods being swiped off the top of my head, I'm not sure how 
>>> much more safe I'd feel just because they were black.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
>>> Nalda
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:15 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
>>> public when active outside
>>> 
>>> It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger type 
>>> would know what they are.
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them 
>>>> safer or less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Pete Nalda
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>>> 
>>>> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
>>>> 
>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Love in Christ
>>>>> Marty
>>>>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>>>>> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile 
>>>>> walking around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the 
>>>>> real world since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. 
>>>>> from Mich.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>>> Of Pete Nalda
>>>>> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing 
>>>>> in public when active outside
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok. Given the fact transparency 

Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Loved your measurement oriented description, I’m not good at that. I’ve never 
actually weighed them  but see my comment about being heavy enough to use as a 
weapon. I also advise on going and trying them out! I was hooked just by 
reading reviews. Little did I know I’d get so spoiled!  “Each to his own”, said 
the old man before he kissed the cow  浪

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I Pam,
> Since the old Airpods fit in your ear, these are probably 30 or 40 or more 
> times as large, grin.
> They completely cover your ears.  The ear cups are padded and your ear fits 
> inside them so the pads are touching your head around your ears, not on your 
> ears.
> I suppose if someone had extraordinarily large ears they might press on 
> them...
> 
> The ear pieces are made of metal and are approximately 4 inches tall and 3.5 
> inches wide and the metal part is almost an inch thick, then the padded piece 
> is about 3/4 inches thick.
> The band that goes over your head is made up of two metal bars that have a 
> nice mesh between them that sits on your head and distributes the weight so 
> they do not feel that heavy on your head, though when you hold them, they are 
> surprisingly heavy. 
> The adjustment for the earpieces is also metal and seems to hold the position 
> you set it at quite well.
> You really have to have them in your hands to fully appreciate them, but I 
> hope that helps.
> 
> If you have an Apple store in your area that opens up, I'd say go and check 
> them out.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> Sorry, I may have missed this somewhere and I know I can look up the size, 
> but can you give me an idea of how much bigger these are than the older 
> airpods?  Do they actually cover your ears?  I hadn't really thought about 
> replacing mine, but the positive comments are making me interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> Pam 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger type 
> would know what they are.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them 
>> safer or less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Pete Nalda
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about 
>> wearing in public when active outside
>> 
>> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Love in Christ
>>> Marty
>>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>>> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile 
>>> walking around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the 
>>> real world since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from 
>>> Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> Fr

Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
There is also no product logo to speak of, so I think the assaulter would have 
to be well-connected to even know what they are! In fact I think Apple did a 
great job with this I see people walking around with bows, Sony, or beats, and 
the product name is visibly noticeable these things are just plain space gray

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Ah, because most people think Apple products are white? I didn't realize 
> that, probably because I got a black iPhone 11. I guess if I were worried 
> about white Airpods being swiped off the top of my head, I'm not sure how 
> much more safe I'd feel just because they were black.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger type 
> would know what they are.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them 
>> safer or less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Pete Nalda
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about 
>> wearing in public when active outside
>> 
>> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Love in Christ
>>> Marty
>>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>>> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile 
>>> walking around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the 
>>> real world since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from 
>>> Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Pete Nalda
>>> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing 
>>> in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here 
>>> brave enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering 
>>> fodder for those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone 
>>> is listening to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And 
>>> without opening Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over 
>>> compliance kind of person.
>>> 
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Oh yes quite a bit larger, and yes they do cover your ears but they are very 
gentle about it, not muffling the sound much at all. They are also quite heavy, 
but you never know it because they are so comfortable. I don’t think it would 
be very good for them, but in a confrontational situation, I think you could 
snatch them off and use them as a weapon and knock somebody in the back of the 
head with them. I’ll kidding aside, they are quite a different beast then the 
other AirPods

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I may have missed this somewhere and I know I can look up the size, 
> but can you give me an idea of how much bigger these are than the older 
> airpods?  Do they actually cover your ears?  I hadn't really thought about 
> replacing mine, but the positive comments are making me interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> Pam 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger type 
> would know what they are.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them safer or 
>> less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
>> Nalda
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
>> public when active outside
>> 
>> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Love in Christ
>>> Marty
>>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>>> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile 
>>> walking around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the 
>>> real world since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from 
>>> Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Pete Nalda
>>> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
>>> public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here 
>>> brave enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering 
>>> fodder for those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone 
>>> is listening to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And 
>>> without opening Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over 
>>> compliance kind of person.
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Yup!

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Pete,
> So, are you saying in your signature, "Good Day mates," in Basque?
> 
> Nice,
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger type 
> would know what they are.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them 
>> safer or less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Pete Nalda
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about 
>> wearing in public when active outside
>> 
>> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Love in Christ
>>> Marty
>>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>>> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile 
>>> walking around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the 
>>> real world since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from 
>>> Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Pete Nalda
>>> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing 
>>> in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here 
>>> brave enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering 
>>> fodder for those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone 
>>> is listening to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And 
>>> without opening Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over 
>>> compliance kind of person.
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
I find, that with the AirPod max, you can get more bass, even at a lower 
volume, than you ever could with the AirPod pros, those really lose bass at 
lower volumes

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Lucky for me, I have ears shaped in such a way that once I get the right tip 
> on the Airpod Pros, there's no anger of them popping out. I find the sound 
> quality on my Airpod Pros to be pretty impressive, but I am intrigued by 
> these comments on how much better the Maxes sound.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 9:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> Certainly something to think about, I was fine using my AirPod Pro’s 
> mobilizing, but the sound in the Max just spoils me!  It’s like augmented 
> reality!  And those darn AirPod Pro’s have been prone to popping out!  
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 9:28 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> While the transparency is quite good, I would never try walking down the 
>> street with them on.
>> You do not have as true a sense of where things are.
>> I would compare it to the problem a person with sight in one eye has; no 
>> true depth persception.
>> You can hear things yes, but you would not be able to safely judge the 
>> distance or direction accurately enough to be safe outside.
>> That is why the things like AfterShokz and Bose Frames are a better choice 
>> for walking since your ears are completely unhindered.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Pete Nalda
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 6:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about 
>> wearing in public when active outside
>> 
>> I was implying that there are people who probably are thinking, “Oh, no! You 
>> shouldn’t do that!”  
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 6:30 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree with Simon. I walk around my house all of the time wearing my 
>>> Airpod Pros, and although when walking out side, I'll tend to grab my Bose 
>>> Frames or my Aftershokz, I could see myself wearing my Pros or the Maxes 
>>> outside, but as Simon says, I'd still be careful at intersections and 
>>> congested areas, by turning off whatever I'm listening to except for the 
>>> occasional updates from my GPS system.
>>> 
>>> I have to admit, I'm perplexed by the subject line and the body of the 
>>> original message. I'm not sure I've ever seen the phrase "morale etiquette" 
>>> before, and I'm not sure why the morale high ground has to be invoked 
>>> before even asking a simple question.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:23 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about
>>> wearing in public when active outside
>>> 
>>> I'm not saying I would do it often
>>> But yes I've tried it with my airpods pro on transparency mode and although 
>>> I could walk around playing music I wouldn't want to be playing iron maidan 
>>> or black sabith at the time.
>>> 
>>> And crossing an uncontrolled intersection, I gave a try but that got 
>>> close to the end of the road,
>>> 
>>> I find using my bose frames while walking around is the best thing for me, 
>>> They manage to let me keep hearing everything going onn around me with 
>>> re

Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
It doesn’t scream Apple product. And I don’t think your average mugger type 
would know what they are.

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm curious, how does the fact that they're space grey make them safer or 
> less likely to be swiped off the top of your head? 
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> That’s why I got the space grey ones. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Love in Christ
>> Marty
>> The Gospel is fully accessible to all.
>> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about 
>> wearing in public when active outside
>> 
>> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile walking 
>> around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the real world 
>> since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from Mich.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Pete Nalda
>> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
>> public when active outside
>> 
>> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
>> enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder 
>> for those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is 
>> listening to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And 
>> without opening Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over 
>> compliance kind of person.
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Again, my post about controlling instant playback stopping or volume dropping. 
And no electric cars on sidewalks, and again my girth can wipeout a scooter. 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> And electric cars?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
>  
> Great, so you will be dry when you get run over; how nice, 
> Just kidding, I know you folks are smarter than to try crossing a street with 
> these on.
> But, what about bicycles?
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
>  
> Yes, I'd definitely not encourage anyone to take these head phones anywhere 
> if they're worried about them getting wet, but as Pete says here in Austin 
> there are plenty of days every year where you can safely take these outside 
> and absolutely not worry about them getting rained on.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
>  
> Yeah. Good points about water resistance, though, here in Austin, it’s kind 
> of hard to get caught in a downpour. It can even be cloudy and not rain
>  
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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>  
> > On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> >
> > I do not plan to wear them outdoors in public because I am afraid of 
> > someone trying to take them from me.  Also, I do not believe that they are 
> > water resistant.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Pete Nalda" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:14 AM
> > Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in
> > public when active outside
> >
> >
> > Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here 
> > brave enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering 
> > fodder for those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone 
> > is listening to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And 
> > without opening Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over 
> > compliance kind of person.
> >
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Well, it looks like I’m probably the only one stubborn enough To even try to 
want to wear them about, but Austin does have dedicated bike lines, and as far 
as somebody write down the sidewalk and hit me I’ll guarantee you with my 
girth, that little bicycle is going to go down! Another thing I wanted to 
mention about why am so hell bent crazy over wearing the Max around over the 
Pro’s, is battery life. Being like 5 times longer!  Another luxurious feature 
that you have is instant control over content volume, and for that matter, 
content play back, no Siri or pinching needed! So to me it’s also a UX feature. 
But I’m glad that this has brought such  a vital  discussion! As for the 
afterShox, or bone conduction, no way for me, as I am just too picky about 
Fidelity, even with voices, and phone calls! And the other sporty options I 
would not pursue it unless they had both transparency and noise canceling. But 
I might consider going back to just using the pros to run around with. I can 
always leave the big boys at home, if I think I’m going to encounter weather, 
although, when it was cold, they did keep my ears warm! So for me, it boils 
down to the convenience of having direct control of volume, and content play 
back.In other words I guess I’m just an old curmudgeon who chooses to live on 
the edge for his own comfort and convenience. Like I said I’m enjoying the 
conversation

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Great, so you will be dry when you get run over; how nice, 
> Just kidding, I know you folks are smarter than to try crossing a street with 
> these on.
> But, what about bicycles?
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
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>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
>  
> Yes, I'd definitely not encourage anyone to take these head phones anywhere 
> if they're worried about them getting wet, but as Pete says here in Austin 
> there are plenty of days every year where you can safely take these outside 
> and absolutely not worry about them getting rained on.
>  
> --
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>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
>  
> Yeah. Good points about water resistance, though, here in Austin, it’s kind 
> of hard to get caught in a downpour. It can even be cloudy and not rain
>  
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> > On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> >
> > I do not plan to wear them outdoors in public because I am afraid of 
> > someone trying to take them from me.  Also, I do not believe that they are 
> > water resistant.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Pete Nalda" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:14 AM
> > Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in
> > public when active outside
> >
> >
> > Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here 
> > brave enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering 
> > fodder for those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone 
> > is listening to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And 
> > without opening Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over 
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Yeah. Good points about water resistance, though, here in Austin, it’s kind of 
hard to get caught in a downpour. It can even be cloudy and not rain 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I do not plan to wear them outdoors in public because I am afraid of someone 
> trying to take them from me.  Also, I do not believe that they are water 
> resistant.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Pete Nalda" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:14 AM
> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public 
> when active outside
> 
> 
> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
> enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
> those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening 
> to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
> Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of 
> person.
> 
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Certainly something to think about, I was fine using my AirPod Pro’s 
mobilizing, but the sound in the Max just spoils me!  It’s like augmented 
reality!  And those darn AirPod Pro’s have been prone to popping out!  

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 9:28 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> While the transparency is quite good, I would never try walking down the 
> street with them on.
> You do not have as true a sense of where things are.
> I would compare it to the problem a person with sight in one eye has; no true 
> depth persception.
> You can hear things yes, but you would not be able to safely judge the 
> distance or direction accurately enough to be safe outside.
> That is why the things like AfterShokz and Bose Frames are a better choice 
> for walking since your ears are completely unhindered.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 6:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> I was implying that there are people who probably are thinking, “Oh, no! You 
> shouldn’t do that!”  
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 6:30 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with Simon. I walk around my house all of the time wearing my 
>> Airpod Pros, and although when walking out side, I'll tend to grab my Bose 
>> Frames or my Aftershokz, I could see myself wearing my Pros or the Maxes 
>> outside, but as Simon says, I'd still be careful at intersections and 
>> congested areas, by turning off whatever I'm listening to except for the 
>> occasional updates from my GPS system.
>> 
>> I have to admit, I'm perplexed by the subject line and the body of the 
>> original message. I'm not sure I've ever seen the phrase "morale etiquette" 
>> before, and I'm not sure why the morale high ground has to be invoked before 
>> even asking a simple question.
>> 
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about 
>> wearing in public when active outside
>> 
>> I'm not saying I would do it often
>> But yes I've tried it with my airpods pro on transparency mode and although 
>> I could walk around playing music I wouldn't want to be playing iron maidan 
>> or black sabith at the time.
>> 
>> And crossing an uncontrolled intersection, I gave a try but that got 
>> close to the end of the road,
>> 
>> I find using my bose frames while walking around is the best thing for me, 
>> They manage to let me keep hearing everything going onn around me with 
>> regard to traffic and people.
>> 
>> Still crossing uncontrolled intersections I find it's better to do it with 
>> audio off.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mich Verrier
>> Sent: Monday, 29 March 2021 9:16 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about 
>> wearing in public when active outside
>> 
>> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile walking 
>> around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the real world 
>> since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from Mich.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Pete Nalda
>> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
>> public when active outside
>> 
>> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
>> enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder 
>> for those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is 
>> listening to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And 
>&g

Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
I was implying that there are people who probably are thinking, “Oh, no! You 
shouldn’t do that!”  

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 6:30 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Simon. I walk around my house all of the time wearing my Airpod 
> Pros, and although when walking out side, I'll tend to grab my Bose Frames or 
> my Aftershokz, I could see myself wearing my Pros or the Maxes outside, but 
> as Simon says, I'd still be careful at intersections and congested areas, by 
> turning off whatever I'm listening to except for the occasional updates from 
> my GPS system.
> 
> I have to admit, I'm perplexed by the subject line and the body of the 
> original message. I'm not sure I've ever seen the phrase "morale etiquette" 
> before, and I'm not sure why the morale high ground has to be invoked before 
> even asking a simple question.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> I'm not saying I would do it often
> But yes I've tried it with my airpods pro on transparency mode and although I 
> could walk around playing music I wouldn't want to be playing iron maidan or 
> black sabith at the time.
> 
> And crossing an uncontrolled intersection, I gave a try but that got close to 
> the end of the road,
> 
> I find using my bose frames while walking around is the best thing for me, 
> They manage to let me keep hearing everything going onn around me with regard 
> to traffic and people.
> 
> Still crossing uncontrolled intersections I find it's better to do it with 
> audio off.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
> Verrier
> Sent: Monday, 29 March 2021 9:16 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile walking 
> around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the real world 
> since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public 
> when active outside
> 
> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
> enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
> those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening 
> to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
> Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of 
> person. 
> 
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
That’s why I got the space grey ones. 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Marty Hutchings  
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> I would be afraid that someone would steel them.
> 
> 
> 
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> -Original Message- From: Mich Verrier
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
> public when active outside
> 
> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile walking 
> around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the real world 
> since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-----
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> Nalda
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public 
> when active outside
> 
> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
> enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
> those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening 
> to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
> Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of 
> person.
> 
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Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Yeah, ok. Good point in your case Mich, as I’ll state I’m a high partial, 
mainly using my guide dog for depth perception compensation, and feeling 
terrain changes. Something I could’ve revealed in my original post. Also, will 
reveal, I’m not always listening to music. 

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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 3:16 AM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile walking 
> around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the real world 
> since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public 
> when active outside
> 
> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
> enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
> those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening 
> to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
> Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of 
> person. 
> 
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Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

2021-03-29 Thread Pete Nalda
Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening to 
Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of 
person. 

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Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

2021-03-27 Thread Pete Nalda
I can speak to this, but with the pros. Once I turn on noise canceling to hear 
the color better and all the sudden she could not hear me. So I turned it back 
off to transparency mode I don’t have yeah nerve to try that with the max to 
somebody yet. I think it opens the mics more to be in transparency mode

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> On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Pete Nalda
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> 
> A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had 
> a connection problem
> 
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> 
>> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as 
>> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
>> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
>> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
>> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
>> Best,
>> Les
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if 
>> I have a defective set.
>> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
>> I’ll be calling apple today.
>> Richard
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
>> Kriegler
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>> Hi Richard,
>> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
>> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
>> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
>> sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume 
>> on the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate 
>> your question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
>> Best,
>> Les
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>> Les, one question for you since you have them.
>> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
>> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
>> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
>> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
>> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
>> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
>> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
>> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
>> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
>> sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was 
>> close to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and 
>> listened to the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone 
>> call. The person on the other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no 
>> difficulty hearing him as well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the 
>> pods working via Bluetooth on my PC. I have to switch the sound source to 
>> them when I wish to use them on my PC. I was informed I could use my voice 
>> to switch sound output, so I will check that out. I still h

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

2021-03-27 Thread Pete Nalda
I am sorry! Someone had come in saying they were having connection problems 
adding another little branch to the thread, I was directing my advice and 
towards them, that maybe they needed to do a hardware reset. That may not fix 
the transparency problem, Although I think it did in that case as well. I got 
the idea of resetting to correct an errant problem. It was a troubleshooting 
step even to me from an Apple article. In my case I did not have my phone 
screen open when I reset them, as I could see the little amber light. It comes 
on during that process. Sorry for the confusion! Back to your regularly 
scheduled programming folks.  

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> On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That is a personal choice.  If you want to hear what is happening around you, 
> yes.
> With noise cancelation on, all you will hear is the person on the phone.
> And, the other people I have talked to say I come through loud and clear.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Pete Nalda
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had 
> a connection problem
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as 
> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
> Best,
> Les
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
> have a defective set.
> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
> I’ll be calling apple today.
> Richard
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> Hi Richard,
> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
> sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on 
> the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your 
> question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
> Best,
> Les
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> Les, one question for you since you have them.
> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
> Thanks,
> Richard
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
> On Mar

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

2021-03-27 Thread Pete Nalda
A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had a 
connection problem

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> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as 
> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
> have a defective set.
> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
> I’ll be calling apple today.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Hi Richard,
> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
> sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on 
> the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your 
> question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Les, one question for you since you have them.
> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
> Thanks,
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
> sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
> to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to 
> the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person 
> on the other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing 
> him as well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via 
> Bluetooth on my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to 
> use them on my PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound 
> output, so I will check that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple 
> Tv’s, but that should proceed without difficulty. They are expensive, but 
> like you, I used a portion of our Stimulus check to get them, except I am 
> paying them off over six equal payments on my Apple Card, as well as getting 
> 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not a lot, but everything helps!
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them 
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
> "smart pouch",

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

2021-03-26 Thread Pete Nalda
Note you can change the volume direction of that crown, I made mine higher to 
the back, as then it feels like I’m turning it clockwise, like you’d do on most 
stereos. I’m impressed at your detailed correlation of all the mics and 
transparency!  Transparency on the iPod pro isn’t nearly as effective. I sort 
of implied this on a post to Mac Visionaries, but not in as much detail. 
Transparency on the AirPod Max is really approaching augmented reality 
territory!  Especially when you turn down the music.

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> On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them 
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
> "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
> pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
> heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
> stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this 
> one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks 
> odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be 
> quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the 
> headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>  
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
> on.
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how 
> much I'll want to have them on.
>  
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, 
> they are fabulous!
>  
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without 
> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other 
> things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if 
> someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.
>  
> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it 
> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>  
> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in 
> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music. 
>  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
> enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>  
> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
> is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
> Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
> since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
> with the computer for Jaws.
> They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  
> Unlike my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the 
> cable even if the battery is dead.
> But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
> cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that 
> works all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the 
> button that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is 
> nowhere near as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's 
> happening around you more than with it off.
>  
> I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.
>  
> There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
> side of the bar that goes over your head.
> The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
> that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.
> The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a 
> large version of the one on t

Re: clock

2021-03-25 Thread Pete Nalda
Settings>General>Date and Time>24 hour to off. 

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> On Mar 25, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> is there a way to change the clock on your phone to a 12 hour one?  thanks 
> for any help.  Janet
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Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

2021-02-13 Thread Pete Nalda
Actually, there are two things needed to connect to non Bluetooth devices. One 
is the lightning to mini plug adapter, then a mini plug cable. 

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> On Feb 13, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> I love these things. They fit my ears really well, and though they feel 
> heavy at first, once they are on my head, they fit wonderfully. I also do not 
> see why you could not use them outdoors. The ear cups are not water proof, 
> but the outside of them is made with illuminum. I think they are cool, but 
> again you have to be looking at the price as well to see if they will fit 
> comfortably.
>  You can get a cable from apple to wire your victor readers and that with 
> them. It does not come with it though. It should if you ask me.
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair 
>> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the original 
>> Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor Reader 
>> Trek, they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
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Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

2021-02-13 Thread Pete Nalda
I too, in fact, got caught in the rain yesterday with my AirPod Max’s. No 
problem. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Feb 13, 2021, at 3:46 AM, Philippa Ellis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Terje,
> Are you talking about the headphones not being for outside use as I can’t 
> find any reference to that and I always use my headphones out and indoors.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Saturday, 13 February 2021, 7:34 pm +1100 from terjestrmb...@gmail.com 
> :
> Airpod Max is ment for indoor use. There will be released an outdoor version 
> soon. Rumours. Probably waterproof to use when it rain. Maybe not when 
> swimming in the ocean.
> 
> I will get one. At the moment i am using Bose 700. With Trek. Usually cabled. 
> If i want bluetooth works. If problems connecting i remove Bose and start 
> from the beginning again. Usually it works. Somebody hacks my Blind Square on 
> my iphone. Therefore Trek should be useful and it indeed was in the 
> beginning. No at times they ar able to hack Trek too. Even when i use cabled 
> connection. Whit wireless turned off. Go figure. Something strange is 
> happening in this  world. In europe, america, africa. All over the worlds 
> countries. Just have to wait and see what happens. I am not the only one that 
> feel something strange is going on.
> 
> Take care
> 
> 
> 
> lør. 13. feb. 2021 kl. 08:18 skrev Simon A Fogarty :
> Shouldn’t be an issue,
> 
> They are a Bluetooth device
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, 13 February 2021 8:47 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Airpods Pro Max
> 
>  
> 
> I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair 
> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the original 
> Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor Reader 
> Trek, they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
> 
>  
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> Andy
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