Re: iOS 15 not seven

[William Outman]

No, there shouldn’t be any problems. 15.7 is just a security update. 
I’m thinking of holding off a bit before going to iOS 16 until things settle 
down a bit. 
Thankfully we’re not forced to take that update at this point. 
Bill 


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> On Sep 20, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Delia Avina  wrote:
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> Hi,
> So far I haven’t had issues with 15.7
> Hth
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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>>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Barbara Stahl  
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>> 
>> Hi List! 
>> So I know that most people have upgraded to ios 16. However, when I go to 
>> updates in settings, I have the option to download either ios 15.7 or ios 
>> 16.  Given all the issues I have heard about on the list about ios 16, I was 
>> thinking of downloading the 15.7 version and waiting for later updates to 
>> ios 16 before downloading it. Has anyone downloaded ios 15.7? Are there any 
>> major issues with it or just any issues that did not exist in ios 15.6?  
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Re: iOS 15 not seven

[Delia Avina]

Hi,
So far I haven’t had issues with 15.7
Hth

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> On Sep 20, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Barbara Stahl  
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> Hi List! 
> So I know that most people have upgraded to ios 16. However, when I go to 
> updates in settings, I have the option to download either ios 15.7 or ios 16. 
>  Given all the issues I have heard about on the list about ios 16, I was 
> thinking of downloading the 15.7 version and waiting for later updates to ios 
> 16 before downloading it. Has anyone downloaded ios 15.7? Are there any major 
> issues with it or just any issues that did not exist in ios 15.6?  
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iOS 15 not seven

[Barbara Stahl]

Hi List! 
So I know that most people have upgraded to ios 16. However, when I go to 
updates in settings, I have the option to download either ios 15.7 or ios 16.  
Given all the issues I have heard about on the list about ios 16, I was 
thinking of downloading the 15.7 version and waiting for later updates to ios 
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RE: A bug on the lock screen in ios 15.

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not seeing this issue myself.

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Subject: A bug on the lock screen in ios 15.

So ever since ios 15 when I get notifications on the lock screen such as amber 
alerts or notifications of texts, half of the time double tapping or flicking 
up until voiceover says activate does not activate or open the notification. It 
just sits there and doesn't react to my command.  I have to go to messages or 
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A bug on the lock screen in ios 15.

[Barbara Stahl]

So ever since ios 15 when I get notifications on the lock screen such as amber 
alerts or notifications of texts, half of the time double tapping or flicking 
up until voiceover says activate does not activate or open the notification. It 
just sits there and doesn't react to my command.  I have to go to messages or 
my notifications in order to open the text or get more info on the 
notification. 
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Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[Esther Levegnale]

wow, I have been having the same problem. Now I know what to do. Thanks so 
much. Esther


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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 5:20 PM, whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi People,
>  
> Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
> what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
> messages the options aren’t there to select delete.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Ward
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RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Depending on the screen reader, if you tab to the link, then bring up the 
context menu with shift+f10 or the applications key, there should be a save 
target as, or save link as option.

 

At least, with Windows that is the way to do it.

 

Though, using Microsoft Ebge it seems that when I hit enter on a link to a 
file, it downloads it instead of opening it.  Probably some setting I changed 
along the way that I don’t remember.

 

After all, I’m another old goat, .

 

 

Richard

 

 

My web site;  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
whdud...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Richard,

 

How do you download the key strokes guide on your site? 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

O, in messages, be sure and do not hit return for a blank line, the return key 
defaults to sending the message.

If you want a hard return in your message, press options+enter.

 

Enjoy,

 

 

Richard

 

 

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Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Thanks Richard,

 

Seems to be different in messages. Been a while since this old goat has played 
around with the Bluetooth keyboard. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

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Richard Turner
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Subject: Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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wrote:



Hi People,

 

Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
messages the options aren’t there to select delete. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

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RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[whdudley]

Richard,

 

How do you download the key strokes guide on your site? 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

O, in messages, be sure and do not hit return for a blank line, the return key 
defaults to sending the message.

If you want a hard return in your message, press options+enter.

 

Enjoy,

 

 

Richard

 

 

My web site;  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Thanks Richard,

 

Seems to be different in messages. Been a while since this old goat has played 
around with the Bluetooth keyboard. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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wrote:



Hi People,

 

Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
messages the options aren’t there to select delete. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

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RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

O, in messages, be sure and do not hit return for a blank line, the return key 
defaults to sending the message.

If you want a hard return in your message, press options+enter.

 

Enjoy,

 

 

Richard

 

 

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whdud...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Thanks Richard,

 

Seems to be different in messages. Been a while since this old goat has played 
around with the Bluetooth keyboard. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

 

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Hi People,

 

Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
messages the options aren’t there to select delete. 

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[whdudley]

Thanks Richard,

 

Seems to be different in messages. Been a while since this old goat has played 
around with the Bluetooth keyboard. 

 

Thanks,

 

Ward

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

 

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.

 

Richard

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can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
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does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
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Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
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Re: Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[Richard Turner]

Press the left and right arrows together to toggle QuickNav on.  If QuickNav is 
on, the arrow keys work correctly.   QuickNav should be off if you are entering 
text, but if trying to use the keys for swiping, etc., turn it on.


Richard
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can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

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Paul)

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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:20 PM, whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
> Hi People,
>  
> Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to 
> what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in 
> messages the options aren’t there to select delete.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Ward
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Latest IOS 15 update and bluetooth keyboards

[whdudley]

Hi People,

 

Is it just me or has something changed because quick keys is acting weird to
what it use to? I cannot use the up and down arrow to swipe up. Like in
messages the options aren't there to select delete. 

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: Weird vibration in iOS 15.to

[Barbara Stahl]

yes, that did it. I guess I didn't go for enough in the voiceover options.  
Thank you.  Its so much better now.  

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 12:31 PM, richardr_tur...@comcast.net wrote:
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> 
> Barbara,
> I think what you are dealing with is the “No item discovered” setting under: 
> settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds and Haptics, and there is a 
> ton of new things you can set sound and haptics for.  One of them is No Item 
> Discovered.
> Seem if turning off the haptic in there solves this.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 8:32 AM
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> Subject: Weird vibration in iOS 15.to
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> Hi list! 
> So I finally updated my iphone 8 from IOS 14.08 to 15.2.1 and now I am 
> experiencing this weird and kind of annoying vibration issue with my phone. 
> I notice it on the area of the home screen where you switch between pages. I 
> touch that area and the phone vibrates like crazy. It also does it in the 
> overdrive app on the player screen and in the app store. I really don't like 
> it. Is there any way to change or turn off this feature? 
> I tried going to sounds and haptics in settings but turning haptics off 
> didn't get rid of this feature. Any other ideas? 
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RE: Weird vibration in iOS 15.to

[richardr_turner]

Barbara,

I think what you are dealing with is the “No item discovered” setting under: 
settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, Sounds and Haptics, and there is a 
ton of new things you can set sound and haptics for.  One of them is No Item 
Discovered.

Seem if turning off the haptic in there solves this.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 8:32 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Weird vibration in iOS 15.to

 

Hi list! 

So I finally updated my iphone 8 from IOS 14.08 to 15.2.1 and now I am 
experiencing this weird and kind of annoying vibration issue with my phone. 

I notice it on the area of the home screen where you switch between pages. I 
touch that area and the phone vibrates like crazy. It also does it in the 
overdrive app on the player screen and in the app store. I really don't like 
it. Is there any way to change or turn off this feature? 

I tried going to sounds and haptics in settings but turning haptics off didn't 
get rid of this feature. Any other ideas? 

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Weird vibration in iOS 15.to

[Barbara Stahl]

Hi list! 
So I finally updated my iphone 8 from IOS 14.08 to 15.2.1 and now I am 
experiencing this weird and kind of annoying vibration issue with my phone. 
I notice it on the area of the home screen where you switch between pages. I 
touch that area and the phone vibrates like crazy. It also does it in the 
overdrive app on the player screen and in the app store. I really don't like 
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RE: Apple Battery Case and iOS 15

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would write to Apple Accessibility, until recently SIRI also did not read 
your recent phone calls or let you send an email and I believe with 15.2 that 
was restored.

-Original Message-
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Sent: January 6, 2022 11:16 AM
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Subject: Re: Apple Battery Case and iOS 15

Ah, I found it. It's a pity though that Siri will now no longer read out the 
case battery the way it used to under iOS 14.--Joe

On 1/5/22, Peter Logan  wrote:
> Strange .. mine is showing just under the phone .. I have the latest v15.
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Hi. I just tried looking on the today screen. My case isn't showing. 
> It's connected... not charging... but connected.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 5, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, ever since I installed iOS 15, I am unable to get Siri to tell 
>> me the battery level of my Apple battery case. Has anyone else 
>> experienced this glitch, and if so, where else can I look for this battery 
>> indicator?
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
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Re: Apple Battery Case and iOS 15

[Joe Orozco]

Ah, I found it. It's a pity though that Siri will now no longer read
out the case battery the way it used to under iOS 14.--Joe

On 1/5/22, Peter Logan  wrote:
> Strange .. mine is showing just under the phone .. I have the latest v15.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 7:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Battery Case and iOS 15
>
> Hi. I just tried looking on the today screen. My case isn't showing. It's
> connected... not charging... but connected.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 5, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, ever since I installed iOS 15, I am unable to get Siri to tell me the
>> battery level of my Apple battery case. Has anyone else experienced this
>> glitch, and if so, where else can I look for this battery indicator?
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> Sent from Joe's iPhone
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RE: Apple Battery Case and iOS 15

[Peter Logan]

Strange .. mine is showing just under the phone .. I have the latest v15.

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Barr
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi. I just tried looking on the today screen. My case isn't showing. It's 
connected... not charging... but connected. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> Hi, ever since I installed iOS 15, I am unable to get Siri to tell me the 
> battery level of my Apple battery case. Has anyone else experienced this 
> glitch, and if so, where else can I look for this battery indicator? Thanks 
> in advance.
> 
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Re: Apple Battery Case and iOS 15

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi. I just tried looking on the today screen. My case isn't showing. It's 
connected... not charging... but connected. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
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> Hi, ever since I installed iOS 15, I am unable to get Siri to tell me the 
> battery level of my Apple battery case. Has anyone else experienced this 
> glitch, and if so, where else can I look for this battery indicator? Thanks 
> in advance.
> 
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RE: Apple Battery Case and iOS 15

[Peter Logan]

You should be able to see it on the "today" screen .. under the battery section 
.. assuming that it's connected to the phone that is ..


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Subject: Apple Battery Case and iOS 15

Hi, ever since I installed iOS 15, I am unable to get Siri to tell me the 
battery level of my Apple battery case. Has anyone else experienced this 
glitch, and if so, where else can I look for this battery indicator? Thanks in 
advance.


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Apple Battery Case and iOS 15

[Joe Orozco]

Hi, ever since I installed iOS 15, I am unable to get Siri to tell me the 
battery level of my Apple battery case. Has anyone else experienced this 
glitch, and if so, where else can I look for this battery indicator? Thanks in 
advance.


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RE: Did anyone experience an abundance of spoken punctuation after upgrading to iOS 15?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Dave,

 

Thanks for alerting me to this setting. I’ve never messed with activities under 
the Voiceover settings so was not familiar with it. I’ve forwarded your post to 
my friend so we’ll see if that does the trick. Otherwise, as Richard suggested, 
I suspect a call to Apple Accessibility is called for.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Clement
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 8:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Did anyone experience an abundance of spoken punctuation after 
upgrading to iOS 15?

 

Hi, 

 

I ran into this problem when I updated to IOS 15 on my iphone 8. It turned out 
to be a problem with the "activity" option in Voiceover. I had an old activity 
which got activated that had verbosity settings that caused all punctuation to 
be spoken. I deleted that activity and my normal Voiceover settings took over 
again. 

 

Note that in IOS 15, many more Voiceover options can be set in an "activity". 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Dec 8, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I have not had any issues with punctuation since 15.1.1.

Have they tried different voices?

Next, would be contacting Apple Accessibility and see if they could run a 
diagnostic.

And there is always the trusty, somewhat of a pain, resetting network settings 
to scare away the Gremlins

 

 

 

Richard

 

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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)





On Dec 8, 2021, at 5:57 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi List,

 

I have a friend who upgraded an iPhone 12 Pro to iOS 15.1.1 today and all 
punctuation is being spoken by Voiceover even with rotor punctuation set to 
none and punctuation under Voiceover verbosity set to none. I thought I 
recalled some punctuation issue posts when iOS 15 first came out but those 
details are gone with the wind at this point.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions of what might be causing this issue or any 
settings to check?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Did anyone experience an abundance of spoken punctuation after upgrading to iOS 15?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Get them to try changing the voice and see if it keeps happening.

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upgrading to iOS 15?

Hi List,

I have a friend who upgraded an iPhone 12 Pro to iOS 15.1.1 today and all 
punctuation is being spoken by Voiceover even with rotor punctuation set to 
none and punctuation under Voiceover verbosity set to none. I thought I 
recalled some punctuation issue posts when iOS 15 first came out but those 
details are gone with the wind at this point.

Does anyone have any suggestions of what might be causing this issue or any 
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Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: Did anyone experience an abundance of spoken punctuation after upgrading to iOS 15?

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

I ran into this problem when I updated to IOS 15 on my iphone 8. It turned out 
to be a problem with the "activity" option in Voiceover. I had an old activity 
which got activated that had verbosity settings that caused all punctuation to 
be spoken. I deleted that activity and my normal Voiceover settings took over 
again. 

Note that in IOS 15, many more Voiceover options can be set in an "activity". 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
 

On Dec 8, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I have not had any issues with punctuation since 15.1.1.
Have they tried different voices?
Next, would be contacting Apple Accessibility and see if they could run a 
diagnostic.
And there is always the trusty, somewhat of a pain, resetting network settings 
to scare away the Gremlins



Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 8, 2021, at 5:57 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I have a friend who upgraded an iPhone 12 Pro to iOS 15.1.1 today and all 
> punctuation is being spoken by Voiceover even with rotor punctuation set to 
> none and punctuation under Voiceover verbosity set to none. I thought I 
> recalled some punctuation issue posts when iOS 15 first came out but those 
> details are gone with the wind at this point.
>  
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what might be causing this issue or any 
> settings to check?
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Did anyone experience an abundance of spoken punctuation after upgrading to iOS 15?

[Richard Turner]

I have not had any issues with punctuation since 15.1.1.
Have they tried different voices?
Next, would be contacting Apple Accessibility and see if they could run a 
diagnostic.
And there is always the trusty, somewhat of a pain, resetting network settings 
to scare away the Gremlins



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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Dec 8, 2021, at 5:57 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hi List,

I have a friend who upgraded an iPhone 12 Pro to iOS 15.1.1 today and all 
punctuation is being spoken by Voiceover even with rotor punctuation set to 
none and punctuation under Voiceover verbosity set to none. I thought I 
recalled some punctuation issue posts when iOS 15 first came out but those 
details are gone with the wind at this point.

Does anyone have any suggestions of what might be causing this issue or any 
settings to check?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Alan Lemly

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Did anyone experience an abundance of spoken punctuation after upgrading to iOS 15?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I have a friend who upgraded an iPhone 12 Pro to iOS 15.1.1 today and all
punctuation is being spoken by Voiceover even with rotor punctuation set to
none and punctuation under Voiceover verbosity set to none. I thought I
recalled some punctuation issue posts when iOS 15 first came out but those
details are gone with the wind at this point.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions of what might be causing this issue or any
settings to check?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

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RE: How to use iPhone Background Sounds in iOS 15, 9 to 5 Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Thanks for that mark,

Never noticed those sounds there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 2:27 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to use iPhone Background Sounds in iOS 15, 9 to 5 Mac

How to use iPhone Background Sounds in iOS 15, 9 to 5 Mac

Here's how Background Sounds work in iOS 15 By Michael Potuck 
 
One of the handy new features in iOS 15 is Background Sounds. Read along for 
how to use iPhone Background Sounds, what you get, what you don't, how it works 
while listening to music, and more.

Backgrounds Sounds comes with six options: balanced, bright, or dark noise, 
ocean, rain, and stream. 
Instead of having its own app, the feature is tucked inside Accessibility 
settings for iPhone and iPad. While Siri commands don't work with the feature, 
you can set up an Accessibility shortcut for Background Sounds or use Control 
Center to quickly access it too.

Apple has some experience with ambient sounds as it brought seven different 
options to HomePod in 2019 with white noise, stream, rain, ocean, night, 
forest, and fireplace. While Background Sounds will improve over time, this 
native iOS 15 feature doesn't replace a robust option like the Dark Noise app.

And a popular option people are discovering with the new iPhone Background 
Sounds in iOS 15 is you can use them along with music and other media for a 
more immersive experience.
.   In iOS 15, open the Settings app (works on iPhone and iPad)
.   Swipe down and tap Accessibility
.   Now swipe down and choose Audio/Visual > Background Sounds
.   Tap the toggle at the top to turn on the default Rain sound 
o   The toggle acts as the play/pause button
o   Siri commands don't seem to work to enable/disable Background Sounds
but there is the option to use a triple-click Accessibility shortcut (detailed 
below)
.   You can also use the Hearing tile in Control Center to play/pause
and change Background Sounds
.   To use iPhone Background Sounds while listening to music or other
media, make sure the toggle is turned on, then you can also set a volume
 
.   Tap Sound to test, download, and change your Background Sounds
.   You can set a volume level for when you use Background Sounds on
their own as well as a separate volume level when used while media is playing 
o   You can also toggle off Backgrounds Sounds for when media is playing
 
.   When changing Background Sounds for the first time, they'll take a
moment to fully download
.   You can use your iPhone or iPad's physical volume buttons for
Background Sounds after starting them

Background Sounds in Control Center
.   The fastest way to play/pause and change Background Sounds is with
the Hearing tile in Control Center
.   Head to Settings > Control Center > tap the + next to Hearing if
it's not already there
.   After tapping the ear icon, tap Background Sounds at the bottom of
your screen 
o   Tap Background Sounds: Rain to change the sound
 
Siri and Accessibility shortcut
.   When trying to use Siri to play/pause Background Sounds, it pulls up
random content in the Music app instead of the actual Background Sounds feature
.   And if Background Sounds are already playing, and you ask Siri to
turn it off, Siri says, "There's nothing playing."
.   However, you can set Background Sounds to be an Accesiblity shortcut
that's activated by triple-clicking the iPhone's side button (Settings > 
Accessibility > Accessibility Shortcut > Background Sounds 
o   This is faster than using Control Center as the triple-click
instantly turns Background Sounds on and off
 
iPhone Background Sounds wrap-up
Background Sounds is definitely a handy addition to iOS 15. However, it's 
relatively basic, so if you think you'd appreciate more sounds and rich 
features, definitely check out Dark Noise for iOS/Mac.

My colleague Parker also made a sharp concept for how Apple could take 
Background Sounds further with a dedicated app, sleep timer, and more.
.   Concept: Background sounds in iOS 15 should have their own app with
spatial audio, sleep timer, and more
Read more 9to5Mac tutorials:
.   Hands-on: Here's how iPhone's Live Text OCR works in iOS 15
.   Hands-on: Here's how the all-new Safari in iOS 15 works
.   Four ways to find battery percentage of iPhone 13 and earlier
iPhones too
.   iPhone: How to enable and disable iCloud Private Relay in iOS 15
FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links. More.
 
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How to use iPhone Background Sounds in iOS 15, 9 to 5 Mac

Here's how Background Sounds work in iOS 15
By Michael Potuck 
 
One of the handy new features in iOS 15 is Background Sounds. Read along for
how to use iPhone Background Sounds, what you get, what you don't, how it
works while listening to music, and more.

Backgrounds Sounds comes with six options: balanced, bright, or dark noise,
ocean, rain, and stream. 
Instead of having its own app, the feature is tucked inside Accessibility
settings for iPhone and iPad. While Siri commands don't work with the
feature, you can set up an Accessibility shortcut for Background Sounds or
use Control Center to quickly access it too.

Apple has some experience with ambient sounds as it brought seven different
options to HomePod in 2019 with white noise, stream, rain, ocean, night,
forest, and fireplace. While Background Sounds will improve over time, this
native iOS 15 feature doesn't replace a robust option like the Dark Noise
app.

And a popular option people are discovering with the new iPhone Background
Sounds in iOS 15 is you can use them along with music and other media for a
more immersive experience.
.   In iOS 15, open the Settings app (works on iPhone and iPad)
.   Swipe down and tap Accessibility
.   Now swipe down and choose Audio/Visual > Background Sounds
.   Tap the toggle at the top to turn on the default Rain sound 
o   The toggle acts as the play/pause button
o   Siri commands don't seem to work to enable/disable Background Sounds
but there is the option to use a triple-click Accessibility shortcut
(detailed below)
.   You can also use the Hearing tile in Control Center to play/pause
and change Background Sounds
.   To use iPhone Background Sounds while listening to music or other
media, make sure the toggle is turned on, then you can also set a volume
 
.   Tap Sound to test, download, and change your Background Sounds
.   You can set a volume level for when you use Background Sounds on
their own as well as a separate volume level when used while media is
playing 
o   You can also toggle off Backgrounds Sounds for when media is playing
 
.   When changing Background Sounds for the first time, they'll take a
moment to fully download
.   You can use your iPhone or iPad's physical volume buttons for
Background Sounds after starting them

Background Sounds in Control Center
.   The fastest way to play/pause and change Background Sounds is with
the Hearing tile in Control Center
.   Head to Settings > Control Center > tap the + next to Hearing if
it's not already there
.   After tapping the ear icon, tap Background Sounds at the bottom of
your screen 
o   Tap Background Sounds: Rain to change the sound
 
Siri and Accessibility shortcut
.   When trying to use Siri to play/pause Background Sounds, it pulls up
random content in the Music app instead of the actual Background Sounds
feature
.   And if Background Sounds are already playing, and you ask Siri to
turn it off, Siri says, "There's nothing playing."
.   However, you can set Background Sounds to be an Accesiblity shortcut
that's activated by triple-clicking the iPhone's side button (Settings >
Accessibility > Accessibility Shortcut > Background Sounds 
o   This is faster than using Control Center as the triple-click
instantly turns Background Sounds on and off
 
iPhone Background Sounds wrap-up
Background Sounds is definitely a handy addition to iOS 15. However, it's
relatively basic, so if you think you'd appreciate more sounds and rich
features, definitely check out Dark Noise for iOS/Mac.

My colleague Parker also made a sharp concept for how Apple could take
Background Sounds further with a dedicated app, sleep timer, and more.
.   Concept: Background sounds in iOS 15 should have their own app with
spatial audio, sleep timer, and more
Read more 9to5Mac tutorials:
.   Hands-on: Here's how iPhone's Live Text OCR works in iOS 15
.   Hands-on: Here's how the all-new Safari in iOS 15 works
.   Four ways to find battery percentage of iPhone 13 and earlier
iPhones too
.   iPhone: How to enable and disable iCloud Private Relay in iOS 15
FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links. More.
 
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Talking Clock for IOS 15

[Richard Justice]

Hi,
I'm looking for a clock with a female voice that speaks the actual time in 
15 minute intervals.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rick 

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Re: iOS 15 "my updates"

[Donald Raikes]

I just asked "hey siri my updates" so maybe I need to just ask for my
callendar entries :)

On 11/22/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I ask Siri, What is on my Calendar for a given date, and it replies with all
> the appointments for that date.
>
> Are you using the native calendar app?
>
> How are you phrasing your question.
>
> And, yes, they are talking about the Apple Podcasts app.  But, I just asked,
> What are my updates?  It is a new feature that gives you the weather, and
> news if you have that Podcasts app installed and I suspect have selected
> news sources, and some other bit of information.
> Much like an Alexa skill you can set up.
>
> I don't use the Apple Podcasts app, so cannot test that.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is
> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different
> kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Donald Raikes
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iOS 15 "my updates"
>
> I upgraded my se2020 to iOS 15.1 over the weekend and got a tip that said i
> could say "hey siri my updates" to get my schedule etc for the day.
>
> When I do this it says thatt I need to install the podcast app to get news
> updates.
>
> Is this the apple podcast app because I already have that installed or some
> other podcast app?
>
> Also is it possible to have siri respond with all appointments on my
> calendar instead of just the first entry on the calendar?
>
> --
>
> Sincerely,
> Donald Raikes, CPACC
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RE: iOS 15 "my updates"

[Richard Turner]

I ask Siri, What is on my Calendar for a given date, and it replies with all 
the appointments for that date.

Are you using the native calendar app?

How are you phrasing your question.

And, yes, they are talking about the Apple Podcasts app.  But, I just asked, 
What are my updates?  It is a new feature that gives you the weather, and news 
if you have that Podcasts app installed and I suspect have selected news 
sources, and some other bit of information.
Much like an Alexa skill you can set up.  

I don't use the Apple Podcasts app, so cannot test that.





Richard
"Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Raikes
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 15 "my updates"

I upgraded my se2020 to iOS 15.1 over the weekend and got a tip that said i 
could say "hey siri my updates" to get my schedule etc for the day.

When I do this it says thatt I need to install the podcast app to get news 
updates.

Is this the apple podcast app because I already have that installed or some 
other podcast app?

Also is it possible to have siri respond with all appointments on my calendar 
instead of just the first entry on the calendar?

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Accessibility Specialist
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iOS 15 "my updates"

[Donald Raikes]

I upgraded my se2020 to iOS 15.1 over the weekend and got a tip that
said i could say "hey siri my updates" to get my schedule etc for the
day.

When I do this it says thatt I need to install the podcast app to get
news updates.

Is this the apple podcast app because I already have that installed or
some other podcast app?

Also is it possible to have siri respond with all appointments on my
calendar instead of just the first entry on the calendar?

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RE: IOS 15

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But it would appear this is an issue fairly unique to you or a very small group 
of people because I have not seen this mentioned on Applevis and neither have I 
noticed any issues with any of my 2 mail accounts I have set up. I also don't  
recall seeing messages on this list about it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly 
Gardner
Sent: November 16, 2021 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15

It doesn't seem to matter whether there are other apps running or if mail is 
the only app in the app switcher. Apparently the mail retrieval problem is an 
actual thing because there are various solutions proposed all around the net so 
I know I'm not the only one who is having this issue. But shutting down my 
phone every time (or nearly every time) I want to read my mail is really 
annoying. There are times when, no matter what I do, my mail simply will not 
download.

I have reported this to Apple and hopefully they can reproduce it and address 
it in a future update. But it is sufficiently annoying that I wish I had not 
updated.



On 11/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have 
> trouble getting mail?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only 
> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
>
> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has 
> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that 
> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three 
> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By 
> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely 
> shutting down the phone.
> It's not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but 
> it is inconvenient and annoying.
>
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't 
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
>
>
> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can 
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  
>> I will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>>
>>
>> stew
>>
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Re: IOS 15

[Bill Gallik]

I contacted Apple support earlier today; the support tech suggested all sorts 
of possibilities, all options I had already tried to no avail.  She even ran a 
diagnostic on my iPhone 8 to make sure the sensors were still functioning 
properly.  They were.

At this point I’m going to deploy one of my Bluetooth earphones until I can 
purchase a new iPhone or until the next iOS release resolves this problem.

As I say, this issue manifested after installing iOS15.1 so hopefully the next 
software update will correct the problem.  Although, it doesn’t really matter 
because I’ve been seriously considering acquiring a new iPhone 12 anyway.


* * * * * * * * * * * *
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Re: IOS 15

[Kimberly]

Probably not because my issues are not exchange related. But it was a good 
thought.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:36 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kimberly,
> 
> There was an issue with microsofts exchange 365 services mainly calendar 
> today with IOS mail app,
> 
> Any chance this is related to your phone?
> 
> I have not been noticing mail related issues on my phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 2:33 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
> 
> It doesn't seem to matter whether there are other apps running or if mail is 
> the only app in the app switcher. Apparently the mail retrieval problem is an 
> actual thing because there are various solutions proposed all around the net 
> so I know I'm not the only one who is having this issue. But shutting down my 
> phone every time (or nearly every time) I want to read my mail is really 
> annoying. There are times when, no matter what I do, my mail simply will not 
> download.
> 
> I have reported this to Apple and hopefully they can reproduce it and address 
> it in a future update. But it is sufficiently annoying that I wish I had not 
> updated.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have 
>> trouble getting mail?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
>> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only 
>> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kimberly Gardner
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 15
>> 
>> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has 
>> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that 
>> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three 
>> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By 
>> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely 
>> shutting down the phone.
>> It's not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but 
>> it is inconvenient and annoying.
>> 
>> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't 
>> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can 
>>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  
>>> I will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> stew
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RE: IOS 15

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kimberly,

There was an issue with microsofts exchange 365 services mainly calendar today 
with IOS mail app,

Any chance this is related to your phone?

I have not been noticing mail related issues on my phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly 
Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 2:33 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15

It doesn't seem to matter whether there are other apps running or if mail is 
the only app in the app switcher. Apparently the mail retrieval problem is an 
actual thing because there are various solutions proposed all around the net so 
I know I'm not the only one who is having this issue. But shutting down my 
phone every time (or nearly every time) I want to read my mail is really 
annoying. There are times when, no matter what I do, my mail simply will not 
download.

I have reported this to Apple and hopefully they can reproduce it and address 
it in a future update. But it is sufficiently annoying that I wish I had not 
updated.



On 11/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have 
> trouble getting mail?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only 
> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
>
> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has 
> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that 
> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three 
> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By 
> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely 
> shutting down the phone.
> It's not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but 
> it is inconvenient and annoying.
>
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't 
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
>
>
> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can 
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  
>> I will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>>
>>
>> stew
>>
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Re: IOS 15

[Kimberly Gardner]

It doesn't seem to matter whether there are other apps running or if
mail is the only app in the app switcher. Apparently the mail
retrieval problem is an actual thing because there are various
solutions proposed all around the net so I know I'm not the only one
who is having this issue. But shutting down my phone every time (or
nearly every time) I want to read my mail is really annoying. There
are times when, no matter what I do, my mail simply will not download.

I have reported this to Apple and hopefully they can reproduce it and
address it in a future update. But it is sufficiently annoying that I
wish I had not updated.



On 11/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have trouble
> getting mail?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is
> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different
> kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
>
> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has had
> problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that sometimes
> everything works just fine. But at least every two or three days I need to
> fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By fiddle I mean either
> removing mail from the app switcher or completely shutting down the phone.
> It's not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but it is
> inconvenient and annoying.
>
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
>
>
> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I
>> will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>>
>>
>> stew
>>
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Re: IOS 15

[Gerardo Corripio]

No such problems here either! Have you tried restarting (turning off/on), the 
phone? Sometimes these restarts help solve little glitches like the one 
described. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 16 nov 2021, a la(s) 11:37 a.m., Sieghard Weitzel  
> escribió:
> 
> I don't have this issue at all with my iPhone 11 and iOS 15.1.
> Have you checked to make sure the setting which controls this in Voiceover 
> Settings > Audio is not turned off?
> Also, you can always just plug in the Earpods or use any other wired or 
> Bluetooth headset as a work-around.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
> Gallik
> Sent: November 16, 2021 8:15 AM
> To: viPhone  
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
> 
> One very annoying property of iOS15.1 is that the feature of switching to 
> SPEAKER automatically during a telephone call when you move the phone away 
> from your ear seems to be badly broken.  There was a thread in this list 
> discussing the matter where it was suggested that a single finger right flick 
> (or left) would resolve this bug, this has not worked for me.  If I had to do 
> it over again knowing this, I would have remained with iOS15.0; I recommend 
> you do not load iOS15.1 unless using the speaker during a call is a 
> non-factor for you.
> 
> One consequence of the above described bug is that “Be My Eyes” is rendered 
> quite useless for me because I’m not able to communicate with the volunteer 
> answering my request.  I find it nearly impossible to accurately aim the 
> phone to transmit a decent picture of the item I need identified with the 
> phone pressed up against my ear.
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RE: IOS 15

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't have this issue at all with my iPhone 11 and iOS 15.1.
Have you checked to make sure the setting which controls this in Voiceover 
Settings > Audio is not turned off?
Also, you can always just plug in the Earpods or use any other wired or 
Bluetooth headset as a work-around.

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Sent: November 16, 2021 8:15 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: IOS 15

One very annoying property of iOS15.1 is that the feature of switching to 
SPEAKER automatically during a telephone call when you move the phone away from 
your ear seems to be badly broken.  There was a thread in this list discussing 
the matter where it was suggested that a single finger right flick (or left) 
would resolve this bug, this has not worked for me.  If I had to do it over 
again knowing this, I would have remained with iOS15.0; I recommend you do not 
load iOS15.1 unless using the speaker during a call is a non-factor for you.

One consequence of the above described bug is that “Be My Eyes” is rendered 
quite useless for me because I’m not able to communicate with the volunteer 
answering my request.  I find it nearly impossible to accurately aim the phone 
to transmit a decent picture of the item I need identified with the phone 
pressed up against my ear.

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RE: IOS 15

[mmmat]

Before you do that, try waking up the phone first.  If the phone is asleep, it 
will not switch to speaker.  I hit the power button once and that wakes up the 
phone and then it will switch to speaker.  If you have a home button, try 
hitting that first then moving the phone away from your ear.

Hopefully that resolves your issue.

Mario 

scar

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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 11:26 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: IOS 15

Huh, if that don’t beat all.  Maybe I’ll try a reset and hope that resolves the 
problem with auto routing to the speaker!

If that does resolve the issue, I’ll be sure to note that to the list.

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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 10:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I am not experiencing the issue with moving the phone away from my head and 
> it going to speaker.  It works fine on my 13 pro running iOS 15.1.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: IOS 15

[Bill Gallik]

Huh, if that don’t beat all.  Maybe I’ll try a reset and hope that resolves the 
problem with auto routing to the speaker!

If that does resolve the issue, I’ll be sure to note that to the list.

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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 10:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I am not experiencing the issue with moving the phone away from my head and 
> it going to speaker.  It works fine on my 13 pro running iOS 15.1.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: IOS 15

[Richard Turner]

I am not experiencing the issue with moving the phone away from my head and it 
going to speaker.  It works fine on my 13 pro running iOS 15.1.




Richard
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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 8:15 AM
To: viPhone  
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One very annoying property of iOS15.1 is that the feature of switching to 
SPEAKER automatically during a telephone call when you move the phone away from 
your ear seems to be badly broken.  There was a thread in this list discussing 
the matter where it was suggested that a single finger right flick (or left) 
would resolve this bug, this has not worked for me.  If I had to do it over 
again knowing this, I would have remained with iOS15.0; I recommend you do not 
load iOS15.1 unless using the speaker during a call is a non-factor for you.

One consequence of the above described bug is that “Be My Eyes” is rendered 
quite useless for me because I’m not able to communicate with the volunteer 
answering my request.  I find it nearly impossible to accurately aim the phone 
to transmit a decent picture of the item I need identified with the phone 
pressed up against my ear.

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Re: IOS 15

[Bill Gallik]

One very annoying property of iOS15.1 is that the feature of switching to 
SPEAKER automatically during a telephone call when you move the phone away from 
your ear seems to be badly broken.  There was a thread in this list discussing 
the matter where it was suggested that a single finger right flick (or left) 
would resolve this bug, this has not worked for me.  If I had to do it over 
again knowing this, I would have remained with iOS15.0; I recommend you do not 
load iOS15.1 unless using the speaker during a call is a non-factor for you.

One consequence of the above described bug is that “Be My Eyes” is rendered 
quite useless for me because I’m not able to communicate with the volunteer 
answering my request.  I find it nearly impossible to accurately aim the phone 
to transmit a decent picture of the item I need identified with the phone 
pressed up against my ear.

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Re: IOS 15

[Pete Nalda]

Yeah, in relation, mine seems to stall when moving to next messages. 

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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
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> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has
> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that
> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three
> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By
> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely
> shutting down the phone. It's not what I would call show-stopping --
> not for me anyway -- but it is inconvenient and annoying.
> 
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
> 
> 
>> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>> 
>> 
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I
>> will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>> 
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Re: IOS 15

[Pete Nalda]

You get a nasty black screen if you touch the upper to Bring up call controls, 
and it will also blink. I don’t know what this will do for voiceover users but 
it’s hell for zoom users

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> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can anyone 
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> upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
> 
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Re: IOS 15

[Stewart McKay]

thanks richard.  i will check it out.

On 11/16/2021 9:48 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I recommend you read the Applevis.com blog that came out when 15.1 was released.
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-releases-ios-151-and-ipados-151-bringing-many-fixes-voiceover-and-braille-users




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Subject: IOS 15

Hi:


I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can anyone 
tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I will be 
upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks


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RE: IOS 15

[Richard Turner]

Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have trouble 
getting mail?




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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
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Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has had 
problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that sometimes 
everything works just fine. But at least every two or three days I need to 
fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By fiddle I mean either 
removing mail from the app switcher or completely shutting down the phone. It's 
not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but it is 
inconvenient and annoying.

I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't reproducable 
with any consistency. But just something to think about.


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Re: IOS 15

[Kimberly Gardner]

Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has
had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that
sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three
days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By
fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely
shutting down the phone. It's not what I would call show-stopping --
not for me anyway -- but it is inconvenient and annoying.

I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't
reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.


On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> Hi:
>
>
> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can
> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I
> will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>
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RE: IOS 15

[Richard Turner]

I recommend you read the Applevis.com blog that came out when 15.1 was released.
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-releases-ios-151-and-ipados-151-bringing-many-fixes-voiceover-and-braille-users




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McKay
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Subject: IOS 15

Hi:


I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can anyone 
tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I will be 
upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks


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IOS 15

[Stewart McKay]

Hi:


I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can 
anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I 
will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks



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RE: Iphone with ios 15

[Richard Turner]

Contact the developer.
There is a change in iOS 15.1 that should allow apps like that to work under 
iOS 15.1, but the developer has to make an adjustment to how it handles 
notifications.
Though, you could just try resetting the notifications under settings, 
notifications, speaking clock.




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone with ios 15

yes 15.1 and the app is speaking clock. It worked fine until I upgraded to 15.1 
from I forget it was if it was 14.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 11, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> Are you on iOS 15.1?
> 
> Which app exactly?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Hello All, ever since I installed the ios 15 update, the time doesn't 
> automatically sound.  I had the clock alert every 15 minutes.  Is there a fix 
> for this?  Andy and Leroy
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Re: Iphone with ios 15

[Andrew J LaPointe]

yes 15.1 and the app is speaking clock. It worked fine until I upgraded to 15.1 
from I forget it was if it was 14.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 11, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Richard Turner  
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> Are you on iOS 15.1?
> 
> Which app exactly?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Iphone with ios 15
> 
> Hello All, ever since I installed the ios 15 update, the time doesn't 
> automatically sound.  I had the clock alert every 15 minutes.  Is there a fix 
> for this?  Andy and Leroy
> 
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RE: Iphone with ios 15

[Richard Turner]

Are you on iOS 15.1?

Which app exactly?





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Subject: Iphone with ios 15

Hello All, ever since I installed the ios 15 update, the time doesn't 
automatically sound.  I had the clock alert every 15 minutes.  Is there a fix 
for this?  Andy and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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Iphone with ios 15

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hello All, ever since I installed the ios 15 update, the time doesn't
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RE: Where can I find the setting to alphabetise apps on the home screen in IOS 15?

[Alan Lemly]

You might also consider going to the page following your last home screen 
before resetting your home screen layout. You can do this by doing a 3 finger 
swipe left when on your last home screen. This will take you to your App 
library screen. When there, you can single finger double tap in the search box, 
single finger touch in the middle of the screen, and then 3 finger swipe up in 
the middle of the screen to get an alphabetized list of all your installed 
apps. You can set the rotor on headings and single swipe down to jump between 
the different first letter groups. 

 

I don’t like resetting my home screen layout to show installed apps 
alphabetized because I like knowing the order they were installed which is the 
default layout. But I have over 250 installed apps so it’s nice to have 
different presentation options and to also have the App library list.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Hi,

 

Go to settings/General/Transfer or Reset iPhone/Reset/Reset Home Screen Layout. 
That should do it.

 

Best,

Anna

 





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Anyone know where I can find the setting that allows you to alphabetise apps on 
the home screen in IOS 15?

I tried going into settings general and reset where it used to be but its not 
in there. At least, I can not see it.

Anyone know anything about this setting?

shirley

 

 

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Re: Where can I find the setting to alphabetise apps on the home screen in IOS 15?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Go to settings/General/Transfer or Reset iPhone/Reset/Reset Home Screen Layout. 
That should do it.

Best,
Anna


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> on the home screen in IOS 15?
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Where can I find the setting to alphabetise apps on the home screen in IOS 15?

[Many of us]

Anyone know where I can find the setting that allows you to alphabetise apps on 
the home screen in IOS 15?
I tried going into settings general and reset where it used to be but its not 
in there. At least, I can not see it.
Anyone know anything about this setting?
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RE: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Simon A Fogarty]

And they have some very cool and accessible products.

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I think Withings is a great option as it is now owned by Nokia and they are a 
big player in the health industry so I doubt they are going anywhere.


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Hi All:
Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu scale some 
years ago and although it has been long gone from the App Store, it has 
continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to update to iOS 15, and 
that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.
The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.
So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought about 
purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time and probably 
still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or other options.
I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome. Accessibility is 
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RE: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think Withings is a great option as it is now owned by Nokia and they are a 
big player in the health industry so I doubt they are going anywhere.


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Hi All:
Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu scale some 
years ago and although it has been long gone from the App Store, it has 
continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to update to iOS 15, and 
that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.
The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.
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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Again I don't have this scale but do have their blood pressure monitor 
and if it's any indication set up  was easy as can be and was 
accessible. There was one point at which I had to briefly turn on screen 
recognition to find a register button. But that was the only momentary 
hurtle.


It connects to the phone via bluetooth. You mentioned wi-fi I didn't 
read the documentation for the scale but thought it connected the same 
way but perhaps I'm wrong.  If it does however you shouldn't have any 
issues. When you first open the app it'll ask you which device you have, 
walk you through setting up an account with them and then there's 
usually a tutorial walking you through set up and first usage.


I hope that helps.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 6:28 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah this is interesting. The last time I looked for this scale it was
not on Amazon, but it appears to be there now so probably an updated
version. I like that they actually mention features that support
people who are visually impaired right in their documentation. So
that's a good sign. Of course it costs more than everything else, but
I also like that it has the rechargeable battery which seems to only
require an annual charge.
If anyone does have this, how easy was it to set upt he WIFI portion
in the first place?

On 11/2/21, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,

I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale?
Perhaps they could comment further.

I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite
accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it
might fit the bill.

Take good care.

Robin


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Hi All:

Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu
scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App
Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to
update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.

The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.

So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought
about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time
and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or
other options.

I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome.
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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah this is interesting. The last time I looked for this scale it was
not on Amazon, but it appears to be there now so probably an updated
version. I like that they actually mention features that support
people who are visually impaired right in their documentation. So
that's a good sign. Of course it costs more than everything else, but
I also like that it has the rechargeable battery which seems to only
require an annual charge.
If anyone does have this, how easy was it to set upt he WIFI portion
in the first place?

On 11/2/21, Robin Frost  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale?
> Perhaps they could comment further.
>
> I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite
> accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it
> might fit the bill.
>
> Take good care.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On 11/2/2021 4:16 PM, deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu
>> scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App
>> Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to
>> update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.
>>
>> The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.
>>
>> So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought
>> about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time
>> and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or
>> other options.
>>
>> I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome.
>> Accessibility is more important than price, and the most important is
>> that perhaps it’s still getting actual updates and might be supported
>> a while.
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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale? 
Perhaps they could comment further.


I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite 
accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it 
might fit the bill.


Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 4:16 PM, deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All:

Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu 
scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App 
Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to 
update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.


The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.

So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought 
about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time 
and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or 
other options.


I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome. 
Accessibility is more important than price, and the most important is 
that perhaps it’s still getting actual updates and might be supported 
a while.


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iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[deblewis53]

Hi All:

Well I"ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu scale
some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App Store, it has
continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to update to iOS 15, and
that's the end of that for my poor scale app.

The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me. 

So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought about
purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time and probably
still gets updates, but I'm open for comments on that or other options.

I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome. Accessibility is
more important than price, and the most important is that perhaps it's still
getting actual updates and might be supported a while.

 

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How to use Quick Settings in iOS 15 to simplify the Rotor

[Richard Turner]

Thomas Domville did a very nice podcast on Applevis.com about the Quick 
Settings feature now in iOS 15.
I recommend taking the time to listen to it.
https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/how-configure-and-use-voiceover-quick-settings-ios

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RE: IOS 15 with the iPhone 8

[dm-hill]

Yes, you can install iOS 15 on an iPhone 8. The only problems you will have is 
with any glitches in iOS 15, There really aren't that many this time around.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby 

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Hi: can I install IOS 15 on the iPhone 8? Just concerned that it might create a 
problem.
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IOS 15 with the iPhone 8

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Hi: can I install IOS 15 on the iPhone 8? Just concerned that it might create a 
problem.
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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Indeed. It was very distracting. Glad to know it was just a setting. 

 

Cristóbal

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Thanks for that "fix" which is not really a fix but simply a setting which you 
adjust to your liking.

When a new version of iOS comes out it is always a good idea to set aside some 
time and go through all the items in Voiceover settings to see what might be 
new and how changing certain settings make things better for you or not.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Amy 
Ruell
Sent: October 7, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Hi Penny,

Go to settings, accessibility, vision/voice over, audio, sounds and haptics, no 
item discovered, and turn haptic off.

That should do it.

Amy

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Is there a fix on the “haptic on no items” thing? I didn’t know what to call 
it, but i do know it’s driving me crazy! Thanks for Qany advice! Penny

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Robin Frost mailto:robin...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard and all,

Thanks for replying it's greatly appreciated.  I tried that and even tried 
resetting all settings which brought its own fun and didn't impact the 
situation for long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it seems 
that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll take it for as long as 
it lasts.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting. 

Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it works.

 

 

Richard

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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

 

On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost  <mailto:robin...@fastmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

 

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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.

 

Maria Campbell
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All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
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Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Penny Reeder]

Amy, Thank you so much!

What a relief!
Penny

On 10/7/21, Robin Frost  wrote:
> Hi Larry and all,
>
> Yes that would fix it for me temporarily but then it'd stop working again.
> However, as I said it's been playing nice since the arrival of iOS15.0.1
> here anyway.
>
> Take good care.
>
> Robin
>
>
>
> On 10/4/2021 6:19 AM, Larry Smith wrote:
>>
>> If you turn the device off and back on again,it will fix that problem.
>> That’s what worked for me and two others who was experiencing that issue.
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this
>>> already pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15
>>> through to 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is
>>> working on another device running a beta version so hopefully it's not
>>> device specific and a fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
>>>
>>> Take good care.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about
>>>> bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf
>>>> Of Maria Campbell
>>>> Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a
>>>> long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find
>>>> annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was
>>>> terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't
>>>> a biggy, but not a problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from
>>>> hey Siri might be a big problem to people with typing issues.  Please
>>>> stop minimizing the problems of some just because they don't affect you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maria Campbell
>>>>
>>>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
>>>> nothing.
>>>>
>>>> --Edmund Burke
>>>>
>>>> On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In
>>>>> addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact
>>>>> you against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf
>>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long
>>>>> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>>>>
>>>>> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs
>>>>> people are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is
>>>>> a mess" and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved"
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current
>>>>> phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying
>>>>> something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is
>>>>> not a bug but a new feature and there will always be things maybe one
>>>>> would wish had stayed as it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes
>>>>> say the name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the
>>>>> fix I read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion
>>>>> and turn of Reduce Motion.
>>>>> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd
>>>>> like to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover
>>>>> should read the app names even with 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi Larry and all,
Yes that would fix it for me
temporarily but then it'd stop working again. However, as I said
it's been playing nice since the arrival of iOS15.0.1 here
anyway.
Take good care.
Robin

  


On 10/4/2021 6:19 AM, Larry Smith
  wrote:


  
  If you turn the device off and back on again,it will fix that
  problem. That’s what worked for me and two others who was
  experiencing that issue.
  

  
On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Robin Frost <robin...@fastmail.com>
  wrote:


  
  Hi,
  I might be late to the
party here so if someone else mentioned this already
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with
        iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my
13 Pro Max but is working on another device running a
beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a
fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
  Take good care.
  Robin
  
  
  On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard
Weitzel wrote:
  
  

  My post pointed out
my experience and apart from that I was asking about
bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize
anything.
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: October
2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I
    find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy
upgrades in a long time, what are the more
significant bugs you still experience?

  
   
  Obviously, one size does not fit all. 
Many of us did in fact find annoying bugs in 15. 
That annoying haptic on no items discovered was
terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked
phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a problem
before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri
might be a big problem to people with typing
issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of some
just because they don't affect you.
   
  Maria Campbell
  lucky1i...@gmail.com
   
  All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
  --Edmund Burke
  
On
  10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
  
  

  I
can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve
encountered in IOS 15. In addition, you also
have to weigh how much a particular bug may
impact you against any new features you want to
take advantage of in IOS 15.
   
  
--
Christopher
  (AKA CJ)
Chaltain
  at Outlook
  
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday,
October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I
    find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy
upgrades in a long time, what are the more
significant bugs you still experience?

  
   
  The
subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear
what major bugs people are dealing with because
I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess"
and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have
been resolved" etc.
  I
would encourage people also mention what device
they use, my current phone is an iPhone 11.
Please furthermore be 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi,
I actually thought this was a new
feature rather than a bug but I could be wrong. Interestingly
however, it doesn't always happen. There seems to be no
discernible pattern to when audio messages give you the
attachment designation and then give you the seemingly new audio
listening screen featuring a play button and a time scrubber
element which I find rather helpful for reviewing such messages.
As I said sometimes it appears and sometimes the audio messages
simply play with a double tap on them and I haven't a clue as to
what governs this. I've also noticed that when either recording
or listening to one of these messages if you have auto lock set
to a timed interval such as 5 minutes in my case whether
recording an audio message or listening it's as if the device
doesn't recognize that you're doing something and it'll lock
itself thus either ending your recording rather unceremoniously
or stopping your playback. It's very strange indeed.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/4/2021 2:32 PM, Feliciano Godoy
  wrote:


  
  I am using iPhone 11 with iOS 15.0.1
  since iOS 15, when sending an audio message that is over
three minutes the receiver is getting it as an audio file
attachment rather than an iMessage audio message

The interesting part is that it is displaying as
  if it were to be sent as an iMessage audio message. The send
  via SMS When Internet is not available setting is turned off
  on my settings/messages.


As a voiceover screen reader user, I have
  reported this to Apple Accessibility. They were not able to
  replicate the issue, but we are working together as they are
  asking me several questions. I encourage everyone that is
  experiencI encourage everyone that is experiencing this issue
  to report to Apple. 
Feliciano
  For tech tips and updates: 
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world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs 


  On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard
Weitzel  wrote:

  


  




  The subject sort of says it. I am
curious to hear what major bugs people are dealing with
because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess"
and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been
resolved" etc.
  I would encourage people also mention
what device they use, my current phone is an iPhone 11.
Please furthermore be specific instead of saying
something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since
that of course is not a bug but a new feature and there
will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as
it was.
   
  Also, before you mention the issue
where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the name of an app
in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I
read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility
> Motion and turn of Reduce Motion.
  If somebody knows of a good reason
why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to hear it and
while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should
read the app names even with this turned on, turning it
off is a fix/work-around for now especially if it
doesn't have any other consequences.
   
  Another issue which was mentioned
when Applevis released their warning prior to the iOS 15
release about the bugs they experienced or heard about
is the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick
through your cards/passes. I am very curious to hear how
many people have this problem. As I said above, I use an
iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried
it also by turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11
Pro and it also works fine.
   
  Next is the share sheet, once again
no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently some people
say they are having problems.
   
  Lastly, one problem I do come across
is that Voiceover mispronounces certain things, here are

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks for that "fix" which is not really a fix but simply a setting which you 
adjust to your liking.
When a new version of iOS comes out it is always a good idea to set aside some 
time and go through all the items in Voiceover settings to see what might be 
new and how changing certain settings make things better for you or not.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: October 7, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Hi Penny,
Go to settings, accessibility, vision/voice over, audio, sounds and haptics, no 
item discovered, and turn haptic off.
That should do it.
Amy


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Is there a fix on the “haptic on no items” thing? I didn’t know what to call 
it, but i do know it’s driving me crazy! Thanks for Qany advice! Penny
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@fastmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Richard and all,

Thanks for replying it's greatly appreciated.  I tried that and even tried 
resetting all settings which brought its own fun and didn't impact the 
situation for long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it seems 
that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll take it for as long as 
it lasts.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it works.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost 
<mailto:robin...@fastmail.com> wrote:


Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com<mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com>



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Amy Ruell]

Hi Penny,

Go to settings, accessibility, vision/voice over, audio, sounds and haptics, no 
item discovered, and turn haptic off.

That should do it.

Amy

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Is there a fix on the “haptic on no items” thing? I didn’t know what to call 
it, but i do know it’s driving me crazy! Thanks for Qany advice! Penny

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Robin Frost mailto:robin...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard and all,

Thanks for replying it's greatly appreciated.  I tried that and even tried 
resetting all settings which brought its own fun and didn't impact the 
situation for long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it seems 
that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll take it for as long as 
it lasts.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting. 

Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it works.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)





On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost  <mailto:robin...@fastmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
 On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com <mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com> 
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.

I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

 

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.

If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

 

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Penny Reeder]

Is there a fix on the “haptic on no items” thing? I didn’t know what to call 
it, but i do know it’s driving me crazy! Thanks for Qany advice! Penny

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard and all,
> 
> Thanks for replying it's greatly appreciated.  I tried that and even tried 
> resetting all settings which brought its own fun and didn't impact the 
> situation for long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it 
> seems that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll take it for as 
> long as it lasts.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
>> Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it 
>> works.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
>>> pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 
>>> 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another 
>>> device running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a 
>>> fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
>>> 
>>> Take good care.
>>> 
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about 
>>>> bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Maria Campbell
>>>> Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
>>>> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>>>  
>>>> Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find 
>>>> annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was 
>>>> terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a 
>>>> biggy, but not a problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey 
>>>> Siri might be a big problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop 
>>>> minimizing the problems of some just because they don't affect you.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Maria Campbell
>>>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>>>>  
>>>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>>>> --Edmund Burke
>>>> On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>>> I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In 
>>>> addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you 
>>>> against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
>>>>  
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
>>>> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>>>  
>>>> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people 
>>>> are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" 
>>>> and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
>>>> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current 
>>>> phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying 
>>>> something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not 
>>>> a bug but a new feature and there will always be things maybe one would 
>>>> wish had stayed as it was.
>>>>  
>>>> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say 
>>>> the name of an app 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi Richard and all,
Thanks for replying it's greatly
appreciated.  I tried that and even tried resetting all settings
which brought its own fun and didn't impact the situation for
long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it
seems that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll
take it for as long as it lasts.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
  Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and
see if it works.
  


  
  
  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are
in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 
    
  
  
  
  
  

  

  website:
   www.turner42.com
  
  
  (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


  On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin
Frost  wrote:

  


  
Hi,
I might be late to the party here so if someone else
  mentioned this already pardon the repetition.  My most
  significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to
  wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another
  device running a beta version so hopefully it's not device
  specific and a fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard
  Weitzel wrote:


  
  
  
My post pointed out my experience
  and apart from that I was asking about bugs others
  experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
 

  
From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
  Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
  To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the
  least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the
  more significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did
  in fact find annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying
  haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my hey
  Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a
  biggy, but not a problem before.  And, all the phrases
  removed from hey Siri might be a big problem to people
  with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the
  problems of some just because they don't affect you.
 
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

  On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher
Chaltain wrote:


  
I
  can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve
  encountered in IOS 15. In addition, you also have
  to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you
  against any new features you want to take
  advantage of in IOS 15.
 

  --
  Christopher
(AKA CJ)
  Chaltain
at Outlook

 

  
From:
  
viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17
  PM
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  least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are
  the more significant bugs you still
  experience?
  

 
The
  subject sort of says it. I am curious to

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard,  

Since you asked, ever since I updated to iPad 15 on my iPad 10.5, VoiceOver 
will not use Samantha, Enhanced, unless I manually select it after every single 
reboot..

Also, try as I may, I cannot get my iPad Pro to updae to 15.01 either over the 
air or via iTunes.

Strangely enough, I can update other devices in my house, including other 
iPads, some of which are older models, OTR but not this one.

After extensive troubleshooting I know that the issue is with the install of 
iPad 15 but I do not have time to setup the device again.

Now that I think about it, the OTR issue first occured on my iPad Pro with iPad 
14.8.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:

The British Columbia government says it's making progress...

British Columbia Buy and Sell

It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Works fine on my iPhone 11.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: October 3, 2021 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com<mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com>



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Feliciano Godoy]

I am using iPhone 11 with iOS 15.0.1
since iOS 15, when sending an audio message that is over three minutes the 
receiver is getting it as an audio file attachment rather than an iMessage 
audio message

The interesting part is that it is displaying as if it were to be sent as an 
iMessage audio message. The send via SMS When Internet is not available setting 
is turned off on my settings/messages.

As a voiceover screen reader user, I have reported this to Apple Accessibility. 
They were not able to replicate the issue, but we are working together as they 
are asking me several questions. I encourage everyone that is experiencI 
encourage everyone that is experiencing this issue to report to Apple.
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On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Go into "SettingsAccessibility/Voiceover" and into Verbosity. Within Verbosity, 
flick right until you start seeing Caps change pitch, etc. Try to set up links, 
and "Actions" with sound. In my case, it sounded until I got off a phone call, 
is when the soundthe stopped, having tin change back to voice. Hope this helss 
some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 5:21 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> And especially not if it hasn't been reported. This is not something I came 
> across on any of the Beta groups or in the Applevis article so if you have 
> gone through your settings and made absolutely sure that this is a bug then  
> you should report it.
> Maybe you can mention which settings you change exactly so some of us on the 
> group can try to reproduce it.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 3, 2021 6:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be 
> one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant 
> bugs you still experience?
>  
> Have you reviewed the settings?
>  
> Many settings have changed or been added.
>  
> I never had a setup like you so I don’t know that it would have changed in 
> such a minor update as 15.0.1.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one 
> of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant 
> bugs you still experience?
>  
> Speaking of probable bugs… before on Ios14, I’d have sounds assigned to 
> links, and to the “Actions Available” wihtin the rotor. Now with iOS15, 
> though I’m still running 15.0), the sounds don’t seem to play as before! Thus 
> having to revert back to Voiceover speaking the word “Link” or “Actions 
> Available”. Am I the only one experiencing this situation? Has it been fixed 
> in iOS15.0.1?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>  
> 
> El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 8:09 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
>  Yhes, everywhere.
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>  
> 
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
> message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store 
> etc.?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>  
> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
> text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>  
> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation 
> screw up yet.
> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>  
> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>  
> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>  
> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
> to sort out.
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone 
> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something 
> "I don't like the new Focus fe

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Larry Smith]

If you turn the device off and back on again,it will fix that problem. That’s 
what worked for me and two others who was experiencing that issue.


> On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
> pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 
> 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another 
> device running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix 
> is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about 
>> bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
>> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>  
>> Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
>> bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and 
>> my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
>> problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
>> problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems 
>> of some just because they don't affect you.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com <mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com>
>>  
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>> On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In 
>> addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you 
>> against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
>>  
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
>> what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>  
>> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
>> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
>> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
>> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone 
>> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something 
>> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a 
>> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed 
>> as it was.
>>  
>> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
>> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
>> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
>> Motion.
>> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like 
>> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read 
>> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around 
>> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>>  
>> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior 
>> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the 
>> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I 
>> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, 
>> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by 
>> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>>  
>> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
>> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>>  
>> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
>> things, here are two sample phrases which co

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it works.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:



Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com<mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com>



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi,
I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned
  this already pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue
  with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13
  Pro Max but is working on another device running a beta version so
  hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on the horizon.
  One can hope anyway.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
My post pointed out my experience and apart
  from that I was asking about bugs others experience, I am not
  trying to minimize anything.
 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
  Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least
  buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more
  significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact
  find annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items
  discovered was terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the
  locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a problem before. 
  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big
  problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing
  the problems of some just because they don't affect you.
 
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

  On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher
Chaltain wrote:


  
I
  can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in
  IOS 15. In addition, you also have to weigh how much a
  particular bug may impact you against any new features you
  want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
 

  --
  Christopher
(AKA CJ)
  Chaltain
at Outlook

 

  
From:
  viphone@googlegroups.com
  
 On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least
  buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more
  significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
The
  subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major
  bugs people are dealing with because I sometimes see
  statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I won't upgrade until
  some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I
  would encourage people also mention what device they use,
  my current phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be
  specific instead of saying something "I don't like the new
  Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new
  feature and there will always be things maybe one would
  wish had stayed as it was.
 
Also,
  before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't
  sometimes say the name of an app in the app switcher when
  you flick left, try the fix I read about and posted: go to
  Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
  Motion.
If
  somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should
  be on I'd like to hear it and while I don't necessarily
  disagree that Voiceover should read the app names even
  with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
  for now especially if it doesn't have any other
  consequences.
 
Another
  issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their
      warning prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they
  experienced or heard about is the one where the Wallet app
  crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am
  very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As
  I said above, I use an iPhone 11 and this has never
  happened to me and I tried it also by turning on Voiceover
  on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
 
Next
  is the share sheet, once again no is

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Interesting, I wonder if people who have an iPhone 11 comment on whether they 
experience this because I don't regardless whether I actually open the app and 
swipe or whether I bring up Wallet at a point of purchase terminal by double 
pressing the side button.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
dadnthed...@gmail.com
Sent: October 3, 2021 4:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The only bug I’m really experiencing is the wallet app.  I do have reduce 
motion off.
I am using iPhone XR.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I guess you solved the issue, it is one I didn't have, I tried in messages, 
email, Facebook posts, search fields and nowhere did I experience this when 
deleting characters.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 3, 2021 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Yhes, everywhere.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And especially not if it hasn't been reported. This is not something I came 
across on any of the Beta groups or in the Applevis article so if you have gone 
through your settings and made absolutely sure that this is a bug then  you 
should report it.
Maybe you can mention which settings you change exactly so some of us on the 
group can try to reproduce it.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 3, 2021 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be 
one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant 
bugs you still experience?

Have you reviewed the settings?

Many settings have changed or been added.

I never had a setup like you so I don’t know that it would have changed in such 
a minor update as 15.0.1.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one 
of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs 
you still experience?

Speaking of probable bugs… before on Ios14, I’d have sounds assigned to links, 
and to the “Actions Available” wihtin the rotor. Now with iOS15, though I’m 
still running 15.0), the sounds don’t seem to play as before! Thus having to 
revert back to Voiceover speaking the word “Link” or “Actions Available”. Am I 
the only one experiencing this situation? Has it been fixed in iOS15.0.1?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 8:09 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:
 Yhes, everywhere.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through you

RE: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Have you reviewed the settings?

Many settings have changed or been added.

I never had a setup like you so I don’t know that it would have changed in such 
a minor update as 15.0.1.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one 
of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs 
you still experience?

Speaking of probable bugs… before on Ios14, I’d have sounds assigned to links, 
and to the “Actions Available” wihtin the rotor. Now with iOS15, though I’m 
still running 15.0), the sounds don’t seem to play as before! Thus having to 
revert back to Voiceover speaking the word “Link” or “Actions Available”. Am I 
the only one experiencing this situation? Has it been fixed in iOS15.0.1?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 8:09 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:
 Yhes, everywhere.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost lik

Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Speaking of probable bugs… before on Ios14, I’d have sounds assigned to links, 
and to the “Actions Available” wihtin the rotor. Now with iOS15, though I’m 
still running 15.0), the sounds don’t seem to play as before! Thus having to 
revert back to Voiceover speaking the word “Link” or “Actions Available”. Am I 
the only one experiencing this situation? Has it been fixed in iOS15.0.1?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 8:09 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
>  Yhes, everywhere.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>  
>> Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
>> message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store 
>> etc.?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
>> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>  
>> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
>> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
>> text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>>  
>> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation 
>> screw up yet.
>> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
>> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>>  
>> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>>  
>> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>>  
>> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new 
>> settings to sort out.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> website:  www.turner42.com
>>  
>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
>> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
>> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
>> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone 
>> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something 
>> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a 
>> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed 
>> as it was.
>>  
>> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
>> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
>> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
>> Motion.
>> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like 
>> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read 
>> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around 
>> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>>  
>> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior 
>> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the 
>> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I 
>> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, 
>> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by 
>> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>>  
>> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
>> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>>  
>> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
>> things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
>> province where I live:
>>  
>> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>>  
>> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>>  
>> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Yhes, everywhere.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[dadnthedark]

The only bug I’m really experiencing is the wallet app.  I do have reduce 
motion off. 

I am using iPhone XR.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.

I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

 

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.

If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

 

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

 

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

 

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:

 

The British Columbia government says it's making progress...

 

British Columbia Buy and Sell

 

It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.

I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, the volume fluctuations with Bluetooth speakers existed prior to iOS 15 
and it's interesting with the share sheet since just as with the Wallet app I 
experience absolutely 0 issues and all works just as it did in iOS 14.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: October 2, 2021 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on the item 
instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can take a couple 
times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is the one when you have  
a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It pumps voice over volume way 
high on the phone if that's where you have your audio set to go. That's been a 
bug for a while now though.

On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma"
> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere 
> in the text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>
> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest 
> pronunciation screw up yet.
> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>
> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>
> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>
> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new 
> settings to sort out.
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> 
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs 
> people are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS 
> is a mess" and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" 
> etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current 
> phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of 
> saying something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of 
> course is not a bug but a new feature and there will always be things 
> maybe one would wish had stayed as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes 
> say the name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try 
> the fix I read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > 
> Motion and turn of Reduce Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd 
> like to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover 
> should read the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is 
> a fix/work-around for now especially if it doesn't have any other 
> consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning 
> prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard 
> about is the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through 
> your cards/passes. I am very curious to hear how many people have this 
> problem. As I said above, I use an iPhone 11 and this has never 
> happened to me and I tried it also by turning on Voiceover on my wife's 
> iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces 
> certain things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of 
> the Canadian province where I live:
>
>
> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>
>
>
> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>
>
>
> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", 
> difficult to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word 
> it says each word correctly.
> I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and 
> also have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha 
> to test this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I 
> used the same voices.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com<mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com>



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I updated my iPhone to 15.01 or whatever the newest update
is called.  It was kind of a dumb reason, but I couldn't delete a
couple of Siri voices with 14.8 so I had no choice.  I personally
can't see any improvement between 15.0 and the newest update, but this
is just my opinion.  If you are looking through your voice over voices
in Siri, and find South Africa, a lot of the voice over voices
completely can't say South Africa at all.  The word is a jumbled mess.
I haven't experienced the delete issue that Richard talked about.  I
did notice, that Siri doesn't work that well if my iPhone is locked.
Also, don't try and download any new Siri voices at the present time.
It won't work.  I was messing with my iPhone all day yesterday and
talking with apple accessibility.  I finally got a very nice lady that
actually knew what the heck was going on, and she told me, it wasn't
my iPhone, but apples servers.  Like I said at the beginning of this
message, I wouldn't have updated to 15, then the newer version if it
hadn't been for me wanting to delete some Siri voices.


On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Simon, it's actually 15.0.1.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
> 
> The newest update isn’t 15.1
>
> It’s 15.01,
>
> It’s only a 510mb download,
>
> Guess we see what it fixs once installed.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2021 9:25 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
> Does 15.1 fix the wallet crashing?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
> I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In
> addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you
> against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
>
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> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time,
> what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are
> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I
> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone
> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something
> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a
> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed
> as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the
> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
> Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read
> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior
> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the
> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I
> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above,
> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Simon, it's actually 15.0.1.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


The newest update isn’t 15.1

It’s 15.01,

It’s only a 510mb download,

Guess we see what it fixs once installed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2021 9:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Does 15.1 fix the wallet crashing?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Simon A Fogarty]

The newest update isn’t 15.1

It’s 15.01,

It’s only a 510mb download,

Guess we see what it fixs once installed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2021 9:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Does 15.1 fix the wallet crashing?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Kelly Pierce]

I have an iPhone 7. From what I can tell, there’s not much benefit for
those with 6s and 7 iPhones. I am used to waiting until November or
December to upgrade so major problems are fixed. Others can have the
grief, particularly when I am not getting big changes with an older
device.

Kelly



On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Interesting, I have not experienced that on this 13 Pro.
> That would be irritating for sure.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>
> I notice that it jumps so easily into Edit mode.  Just exploring by touch
> will jump you into Edit mode, and there have been times I have almost
> deleted an app by accident.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message - From: "lenron brown" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
>
> That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on
> the item instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can
> take a couple times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is
> the one when you have  a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It
> pumps voice over volume way high on the phone if that's where you have
> your audio set to go. That's been a bug for a while now though.
>
> On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma"
> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the
> text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>
> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation
> screw up yet.
> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>
> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>
> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>
> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new
> settings to sort out.
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5bba1d1c00a94944bb6708d985f83455%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637688123361061137%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=8FLwxY%2FTO3DSl6J%2FuxqxXERMSRLErOlgo5JcjGByyBw%3Dreserved=0
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> 
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people
> are
> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I
> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current
> phone
> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something
> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but
> a
> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed
> as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say
> the
> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of
> Reduce
> Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should
> read
> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning
> prior
> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the
> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes.
> I
> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above,
> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Interesting, I have not experienced that on this 13 Pro.
That would be irritating for sure.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I notice that it jumps so easily into Edit mode.  Just exploring by touch will 
jump you into Edit mode, and there have been times I have almost deleted an app 
by accident.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "lenron brown" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on
the item instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can
take a couple times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is
the one when you have  a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It
pumps voice over volume way high on the phone if that's where you have
your audio set to go. That's been a bug for a while now though.

On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma"
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation
screw up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new
settings to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- Jane Wagner





website:  
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5bba1d1c00a94944bb6708d985f83455%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637688123361061137%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=8FLwxY%2FTO3DSl6J%2FuxqxXERMSRLErOlgo5JcjGByyBw%3Dreserved=0

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone
is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something
"I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a
new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed
as it was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read
the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior
to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the
one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I
am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above,
I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
apparently some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult
to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each
word correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also
have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test
this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same
voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Andy Baracco]

I notice that it jumps so easily into Edit mode.  Just exploring by touch 
will jump you into Edit mode, and there have been times I have almost 
deleted an app by accident.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?



That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on
the item instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can
take a couple times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is
the one when you have  a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It
pumps voice over volume way high on the phone if that's where you have
your audio set to go. That's been a bug for a while now though.

On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying 
"comma"
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in 
the

text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation
screw up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new
settings to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it."

-- Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people 
are
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and 
"I

won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current 
phone
is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying 
something
"I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but 
a
new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had 
stayed

as it was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say 
the

name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of 
Reduce

Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should 
read
the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a 
fix/work-around

for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning 
prior
to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is 
the
one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. 
I
am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said 
above,
I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also 
by

turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
apparently some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces 
certain

things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", 
difficult

to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each
word correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also
have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test
this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same
voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[lenron brown]

That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on
the item instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can
take a couple times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is
the one when you have  a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It
pumps voice over volume way high on the phone if that's where you have
your audio set to go. That's been a bug for a while now though.

On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma"
> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the
> text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>
> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation
> screw up yet.
> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>
> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>
> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>
> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new
> settings to sort out.
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> 
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are
> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I
> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone
> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something
> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a
> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed
> as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the
> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
> Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read
> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior
> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the
> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I
> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above,
> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain
> things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian
> province where I live:
>
>
> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>
>
>
> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>
>
>
> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult
> to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each
> word correctly.
> I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also
> have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test
> this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same
> voices.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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