RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
A lot of apps require you to log in to them with email addresses and such, They can then use that to send you emails re updates or notifications. -Original Message- From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone Sent: Thursday, 7 January 2021 3:54 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense I find it odd that you have to provide an email address, in order to get the service whether it be free or if you pay a subscription for it. I wanted to try it out, but to put in my email address I’m not so sure. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: > > Hi all, > Dennis, to answer your question, we actually never stored any > information that was scanned by users, but the privacy policy didn't > make that clear, so we changed it to reflect this. > So not only do we not store anything that you scan, we never did! > > >> On 1/5/21, Dennis Long wrote: >> What about the material you had stored already has it been deleted? >> If not what is the timefor deleting it? Any idea when the sale will be? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Shane Lowe >> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:07 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >> suggestion for SuperSense >> >> Hi everyone, >> Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, >> so you are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) >> We are also expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so >> if you missed the discounted pricing, there is still hope! >> >> All the best, and happy 2021. >> >> >>> On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >>> Hi shane, >>> >>> Thanks for looking into this situation, >>> >>> Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so >>> it is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. >>> >>> We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the >>> purchase of this product. >>> >>> Mind you the price is high here in nz, >>> >>> As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they >>> not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? >>> >>> We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today >>> on my tanning! >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Shane Lowe >>> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> Hi all, >>> Thank you so much for your feedback. >>> We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to >>> continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in >>> light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the >>> way we handle data. >>> Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch >>> afterword. >>> >>> >>> On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >>>> I don't think I would buy it. >>>> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >>>> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >>>> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they >>>> choose to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >>>> >>>> Evan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was >>>>> 100% going to make before. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On >>>>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>>>> suggestion for SuperSense >>>>> >>>>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >>>>> >>>>> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >>>>> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >>>&g
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Yes, you can sign in with your Apple ID. On 1/6/21, Agent086b wrote: > Hi, > do they have an option to sign on with Apple? If not they should as this > gives an address that you can stop at any time. > Max. > >> On 7 Jan 2021, at 1:53 am, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone >> wrote: >> >> I find it odd that you have to provide an email address, in order to get >> the service whether it be free or if you pay a subscription for it. I >> wanted to try it out, but to put in my email address I’m not so sure. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> Dennis, to answer your question, we actually never stored any >>> information that was scanned by users, but the privacy policy didn't >>> make that clear, so we changed it to reflect this. >>> So not only do we not store anything that you scan, we never did! >>> >>> >>>> On 1/5/21, Dennis Long wrote: >>>> What about the material you had stored already has it been deleted? If >>>> not >>>> what is the timefor deleting it? Any idea when the sale will be? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>>> Shane >>>> Lowe >>>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:07 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion >>>> for >>>> SuperSense >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so >>>> you >>>> are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are >>>> also >>>> expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed >>>> the >>>> discounted pricing, there is still hope! >>>> >>>> All the best, and happy 2021. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >>>>> Hi shane, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for looking into this situation, >>>>> >>>>> Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it >>>>> is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. >>>>> >>>>> We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase >>>>> of this product. >>>>> >>>>> Mind you the price is high here in nz, >>>>> >>>>> As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they >>>>> not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? >>>>> >>>>> We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today >>>>> on my tanning! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>>>> Shane Lowe >>>>> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>>>> suggestion for SuperSense >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> Thank you so much for your feedback. >>>>> We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to >>>>> continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in >>>>> light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way >>>>> we >>>>> handle data. >>>>> Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch >>>>> afterword. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >>>>>> I don't think I would buy it. >>>>>> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >>>>>> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >>>>>> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose >>>>>> to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >>>>>> >>>>>> Evan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>>>>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>>>>>> going to make before. >
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Hi, do they have an option to sign on with Apple? If not they should as this gives an address that you can stop at any time. Max. > On 7 Jan 2021, at 1:53 am, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone > wrote: > > I find it odd that you have to provide an email address, in order to get the > service whether it be free or if you pay a subscription for it. I wanted to > try it out, but to put in my email address I’m not so sure. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> Dennis, to answer your question, we actually never stored any >> information that was scanned by users, but the privacy policy didn't >> make that clear, so we changed it to reflect this. >> So not only do we not store anything that you scan, we never did! >> >> >>> On 1/5/21, Dennis Long wrote: >>> What about the material you had stored already has it been deleted? If not >>> what is the timefor deleting it? Any idea when the sale will be? >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane >>> Lowe >>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:07 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for >>> SuperSense >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you >>> are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also >>> expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the >>> discounted pricing, there is still hope! >>> >>> All the best, and happy 2021. >>> >>> >>>> On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >>>> Hi shane, >>>> >>>> Thanks for looking into this situation, >>>> >>>> Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it >>>> is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. >>>> >>>> We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase >>>> of this product. >>>> >>>> Mind you the price is high here in nz, >>>> >>>> As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they >>>> not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? >>>> >>>> We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today >>>> on my tanning! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>>> Shane Lowe >>>> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>>> suggestion for SuperSense >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> Thank you so much for your feedback. >>>> We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to >>>> continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in >>>> light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we >>>> handle data. >>>> Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch >>>> afterword. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >>>>> I don't think I would buy it. >>>>> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >>>>> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >>>>> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose >>>>> to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >>>>> >>>>> Evan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>>>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>>>>> going to make before. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>>>>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>>>>> suggestion for SuperSense >>>>>> >>>>>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? &g
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
I find it odd that you have to provide an email address, in order to get the service whether it be free or if you pay a subscription for it. I wanted to try it out, but to put in my email address I’m not so sure. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: > > Hi all, > Dennis, to answer your question, we actually never stored any > information that was scanned by users, but the privacy policy didn't > make that clear, so we changed it to reflect this. > So not only do we not store anything that you scan, we never did! > > >> On 1/5/21, Dennis Long wrote: >> What about the material you had stored already has it been deleted? If not >> what is the timefor deleting it? Any idea when the sale will be? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane >> Lowe >> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:07 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for >> SuperSense >> >> Hi everyone, >> Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you >> are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also >> expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the >> discounted pricing, there is still hope! >> >> All the best, and happy 2021. >> >> >>> On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >>> Hi shane, >>> >>> Thanks for looking into this situation, >>> >>> Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it >>> is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. >>> >>> We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase >>> of this product. >>> >>> Mind you the price is high here in nz, >>> >>> As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they >>> not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? >>> >>> We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today >>> on my tanning! >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Shane Lowe >>> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> Hi all, >>> Thank you so much for your feedback. >>> We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to >>> continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in >>> light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we >>> handle data. >>> Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch >>> afterword. >>> >>> >>> On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >>>> I don't think I would buy it. >>>> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >>>> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >>>> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose >>>> to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >>>> >>>> Evan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>>>> going to make before. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>>>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>>>> suggestion for SuperSense >>>>> >>>>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >>>>> >>>>> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >>>>> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >>>>> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>>>> Of Kelly Pierce >>>>> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, p
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Hi all, Dennis, to answer your question, we actually never stored any information that was scanned by users, but the privacy policy didn't make that clear, so we changed it to reflect this. So not only do we not store anything that you scan, we never did! On 1/5/21, Dennis Long wrote: > What about the material you had stored already has it been deleted? If not > what is the timefor deleting it? Any idea when the sale will be? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane > Lowe > Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:07 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for > SuperSense > > Hi everyone, > Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you > are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also > expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the > discounted pricing, there is still hope! > > All the best, and happy 2021. > > > On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >> Hi shane, >> >> Thanks for looking into this situation, >> >> Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it >> is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. >> >> We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase >> of this product. >> >> Mind you the price is high here in nz, >> >> As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they >> not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? >> >> We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today >> on my tanning! >> >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Shane Lowe >> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >> suggestion for SuperSense >> >> Hi all, >> Thank you so much for your feedback. >> We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to >> continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in >> light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we >> handle data. >> Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch >> afterword. >> >> >> On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >>> I don't think I would buy it. >>> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >>> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >>> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose >>> to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >>> >>> Evan >>> >>> >>> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>>> going to make before. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>>> suggestion for SuperSense >>>> >>>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >>>> >>>> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >>>> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >>>> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>>> Of Kelly Pierce >>>> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>>> suggestion for SuperSense >>>> >>>> Shane, >>>> >>>> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s >>>> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial >>>> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be >>>> linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is >>>> identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be >>>> subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery >>>> process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure >>>> to this pro
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
What about the material you had stored already has it been deleted? If not what is the timefor deleting it? Any idea when the sale will be? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Hi everyone, Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the discounted pricing, there is still hope! All the best, and happy 2021. On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Hi shane, > > Thanks for looking into this situation, > > Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it > is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. > > We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase > of this product. > > Mind you the price is high here in nz, > > As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they > not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? > > We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today > on my tanning! > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Shane Lowe > Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and > suggestion for SuperSense > > Hi all, > Thank you so much for your feedback. > We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to > continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in > light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we > handle data. > Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch afterword. > > > On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >> I don't think I would buy it. >> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose >> to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >> >> Evan >> >> >> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>> going to make before. >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >>> >>> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >>> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >>> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Kelly Pierce >>> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> Shane, >>> >>> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s >>> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial >>> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be >>> linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is >>> identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be >>> subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery >>> process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure >>> to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, >>> such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to >>> access them. >>> >>> The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is >>> that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged >>> when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related >>> interactive or cloud based services is the issue of data collection >>> policies that fail to understand that the blind community is relatively >>> small. >>> People can be easily identified based on contextual information, >>> even though
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Should be but wasn't, The nz pricing still showed the app at the 99 dollar mark, That’s alright, Apples airpods max, are priced here at $999 And I'm pretty sure that's not the price with exchange rate either. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 6:33 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Well, right now, 100 US dollars buys you 138.55 NZ dollars. So, if the app is 50% off, it should be about 69 NZ dollars. At least, in my unqualified opinion. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com * -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 9:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense It's not always that it's not on sale but due to exchange rate the price is still to high. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 3:09 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense I've never understood why when an app is on sale in the U.S., it often is not in other countries. I'm in the U.S. so it doesn't impact me directly, but it sure seems like it should go on sale in all countries in which it is sold. But, then again, I know all about "should" and how often maybe something should be a certain way, but isn't. I'm glad to see such a quick response on the issue of privacy. Very good. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2f78ab4f5f284c48e16708d8b13a366f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637454210864520462%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qFFLQiuP%2BkSNoajLCgo5qn7PC%2FmEsK2YD73C2dJ0ZuE%3D&reserved=0 * -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Thanks for this, You guys work bloody quickly, May be you should take a break from work and relax for a while, And if you're going to drop the price Any chance you can drop the NZ app store pricing as well? When you had it on sale prior to xmas the price was still 99 dollars here in nz for the life time subscription. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 1:07 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Hi everyone, Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the discounted pricing, there is still hope! All the best, and happy 2021. On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Hi shane, > > Thanks for looking into this situation, > > Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it > is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. > > We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase > of this product. > > Mind you the price is high here in nz, > > As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they > not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? > > We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today > on my tanning! > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Shane Lowe > Sent:
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Well, right now, 100 US dollars buys you 138.55 NZ dollars. So, if the app is 50% off, it should be about 69 NZ dollars. At least, in my unqualified opinion. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com * -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 9:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense It's not always that it's not on sale but due to exchange rate the price is still to high. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 3:09 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense I've never understood why when an app is on sale in the U.S., it often is not in other countries. I'm in the U.S. so it doesn't impact me directly, but it sure seems like it should go on sale in all countries in which it is sold. But, then again, I know all about "should" and how often maybe something should be a certain way, but isn't. I'm glad to see such a quick response on the issue of privacy. Very good. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2f78ab4f5f284c48e16708d8b13a366f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637454210864520462%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qFFLQiuP%2BkSNoajLCgo5qn7PC%2FmEsK2YD73C2dJ0ZuE%3D&reserved=0 * -Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Thanks for this, You guys work bloody quickly, May be you should take a break from work and relax for a while, And if you're going to drop the price Any chance you can drop the NZ app store pricing as well? When you had it on sale prior to xmas the price was still 99 dollars here in nz for the life time subscription. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 1:07 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Hi everyone, Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the discounted pricing, there is still hope! All the best, and happy 2021. On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Hi shane, > > Thanks for looking into this situation, > > Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it > is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. > > We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase > of this product. > > Mind you the price is high here in nz, > > As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they > not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? > > We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today > on my tanning! > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Shane Lowe > Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and > suggestion for SuperSense > > Hi all, > Thank you so much for your feedback. > We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to > continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in > light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we > handle data. &g
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
It's not always that it's not on sale but due to exchange rate the price is still to high. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 3:09 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense I've never understood why when an app is on sale in the U.S., it often is not in other countries. I'm in the U.S. so it doesn't impact me directly, but it sure seems like it should go on sale in all countries in which it is sold. But, then again, I know all about "should" and how often maybe something should be a certain way, but isn't. I'm glad to see such a quick response on the issue of privacy. Very good. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com * -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Thanks for this, You guys work bloody quickly, May be you should take a break from work and relax for a while, And if you're going to drop the price Any chance you can drop the NZ app store pricing as well? When you had it on sale prior to xmas the price was still 99 dollars here in nz for the life time subscription. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 1:07 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Hi everyone, Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the discounted pricing, there is still hope! All the best, and happy 2021. On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Hi shane, > > Thanks for looking into this situation, > > Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it > is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. > > We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase > of this product. > > Mind you the price is high here in nz, > > As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they > not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? > > We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today > on my tanning! > > > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Shane Lowe > Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and > suggestion for SuperSense > > Hi all, > Thank you so much for your feedback. > We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to > continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in > light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we > handle data. > Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch afterword. > > > On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >> I don't think I would buy it. >> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose >> to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >> >> Evan >> >> >> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>> going to make before. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >>> >>> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >>> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keep
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
I've never understood why when an app is on sale in the U.S., it often is not in other countries. I'm in the U.S. so it doesn't impact me directly, but it sure seems like it should go on sale in all countries in which it is sold. But, then again, I know all about "should" and how often maybe something should be a certain way, but isn't. I'm glad to see such a quick response on the issue of privacy. Very good. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy * I'm not the card shark * My web site, www.turner42.com * -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Thanks for this, You guys work bloody quickly, May be you should take a break from work and relax for a while, And if you're going to drop the price Any chance you can drop the NZ app store pricing as well? When you had it on sale prior to xmas the price was still 99 dollars here in nz for the life time subscription. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 1:07 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Hi everyone, Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the discounted pricing, there is still hope! All the best, and happy 2021. On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Hi shane, > > Thanks for looking into this situation, > > Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it > is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. > > We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase > of this product. > > Mind you the price is high here in nz, > > As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they > not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? > > We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today > on my tanning! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Shane Lowe > Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and > suggestion for SuperSense > > Hi all, > Thank you so much for your feedback. > We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to > continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in > light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we > handle data. > Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch afterword. > > > On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >> I don't think I would buy it. >> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose >> to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >> >> Evan >> >> >> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>> going to make before. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >>> >>> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >>> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >>> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Kelly Pierce >>> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Thanks for this, You guys work bloody quickly, May be you should take a break from work and relax for a while, And if you're going to drop the price Any chance you can drop the NZ app store pricing as well? When you had it on sale prior to xmas the price was still 99 dollars here in nz for the life time subscription. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 1:07 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Hi everyone, Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the discounted pricing, there is still hope! All the best, and happy 2021. On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Hi shane, > > Thanks for looking into this situation, > > Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it > is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. > > We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase > of this product. > > Mind you the price is high here in nz, > > As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they > not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? > > We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today > on my tanning! > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Shane Lowe > Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and > suggestion for SuperSense > > Hi all, > Thank you so much for your feedback. > We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to > continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in > light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we > handle data. > Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch afterword. > > > On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >> I don't think I would buy it. >> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep >> won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that >> is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose >> to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >> >> Evan >> >> >> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>> going to make before. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >>> >>> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >>> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >>> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Kelly Pierce >>> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> Shane, >>> >>> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s >>> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial >>> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be >>> linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is >>> identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be >>> subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery >>> process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure >>> to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, >>> such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to >>> access them. >>> >>> The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is >>> that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged >>> when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related >>> interactive or cloud based services is the issue of data collection >>> policies that
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Hi everyone, Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the discounted pricing, there is still hope! All the best, and happy 2021. On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Hi shane, > > Thanks for looking into this situation, > > Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it is > grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. > > We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase of > this product. > > Mind you the price is high here in nz, > > As for your staff being on holiday this week, > Why the heck are they not slaving away, is there something on this week in > your country? > > We kiwis are working hard every day currently, > At least I was today on my tanning! > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane > Lowe > Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for > SuperSense > > Hi all, > Thank you so much for your feedback. > We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to continue > insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in light of your > feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we handle data. > Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch afterword. > > > On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: >> I don't think I would buy it. >> It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep won't >> be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that is that >> the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose to >> randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. >> >> Evan >> >> >> On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >>> going to make before. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >>> >>> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >>> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >>> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >>> Of Kelly Pierce >>> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >>> suggestion for SuperSense >>> >>> Shane, >>> >>> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s >>> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial >>> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be >>> linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is >>> identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be >>> subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery >>> process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure >>> to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, >>> such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access >>> them. >>> >>> The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is >>> that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when >>> the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or >>> cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that >>> fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. >>> People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even >>> though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. >>> >>> Kelly >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: >>>> Cara, >>>> Thanks so much for your patients. >>>> I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only >>>> store randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI >>>> technology.
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Hi shane, Thanks for looking into this situation, Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue. We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase of this product. Mind you the price is high here in nz, As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country? We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today on my tanning! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Hi all, Thank you so much for your feedback. We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we handle data. Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch afterword. On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: > I don't think I would buy it. > It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep won't > be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that is that > the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose to > randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. > > Evan > > > On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >> going to make before. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Simon A Fogarty >> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >> suggestion for SuperSense >> >> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >> >> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Kelly Pierce >> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >> suggestion for SuperSense >> >> Shane, >> >> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s >> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial >> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be >> linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is >> identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be >> subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery >> process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure >> to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, >> such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access >> them. >> >> The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is >> that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when >> the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or >> cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that >> fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. >> People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even >> though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> Cara, >>> Thanks so much for your patients. >>> I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only >>> store randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. >>> None of this is linked with any user's personal details. >>> Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with >>> third parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do >>> for you, and happy holidays! :) >>> >>> On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> Hi Shane, >>>> >>>> Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking >>>> into that. I really appreciate it. >>>> >>>> When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance >>>> customer experience, we ended up deciding against it because even >>>> though the provided data was supp
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
If you change things will you honor the sale price? I ask this because you won't have an answer until next week. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 3:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Hi all, Thank you so much for your feedback. We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we handle data. Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch afterword. On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: > I don't think I would buy it. > It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep won't > be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that is that > the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose to > randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. > > Evan > > > On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% >> going to make before. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Simon A Fogarty >> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >> suggestion for SuperSense >> >> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >> >> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't >> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps >> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Kelly Pierce >> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and >> suggestion for SuperSense >> >> Shane, >> >> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s >> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial >> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be >> linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is >> identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be >> subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery >> process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure >> to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, >> such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access >> them. >> >> The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is >> that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when >> the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or >> cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that >> fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. >> People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even >> though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> Cara, >>> Thanks so much for your patients. >>> I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only >>> store randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. >>> None of this is linked with any user's personal details. >>> Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with >>> third parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do >>> for you, and happy holidays! :) >>> >>> On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> Hi Shane, >>>> >>>> Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking >>>> into that. I really appreciate it. >>>> >>>> When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance >>>> customer experience, we ended up deciding against it because even >>>> though the provided data was supposed to be anonymized, it still >>>> gave us the customer's city, so we opted not to use analytics of any kind. >>>> >>>> Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, >>>> relatively, even having the city of a customer is often-times >>>> enough to identify that person. >>>> >>>> So this is part of the reason for my
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Hi all, Thank you so much for your feedback. We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we handle data. Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch afterword. On 12/27/20, Evan Reese wrote: > I don't think I would buy it. > It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep won't > be linked > to your personal details. The big problem with that is that the > documents I might > need to scan, and the ones they choose to randomly keep, ARE, my > personal details. > > Evan > > > On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >> I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% going >> to make before. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Simon A Fogarty >> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion >> for SuperSense >> >> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? >> >> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't need to >> be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps scanned images of >> things people OCR on their devices. >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Kelly Pierce >> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion >> for SuperSense >> >> Shane, >> >> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s >> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial >> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be linked >> with a user’s personal details but the end user is identifiable in the >> documents. These electronic records could be subject to subpoena and >> expose blind people to the legal discovery process just for needing to >> read material. One way to limit exposure to this problem would be to >> delete these kinds of records regularly, such as every 30 or 60 days so >> third parties would not be able to access them. >> >> The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is that >> all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when the app >> is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or cloud based >> services is the issue of data collection policies that fail to understand >> that the blind community is relatively small. >> People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even >> though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> Cara, >>> Thanks so much for your patients. >>> I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only store >>> randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. >>> None of this is linked with any user's personal details. >>> Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with third >>> parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, >>> and happy holidays! :) >>> >>> On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> Hi Shane, >>>> >>>> Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking >>>> into that. I really appreciate it. >>>> >>>> When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance >>>> customer experience, we ended up deciding against it because even >>>> though the provided data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave >>>> us the customer's city, so we opted not to use analytics of any kind. >>>> >>>> Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, >>>> relatively, even having the city of a customer is often-times enough >>>> to identify that person. >>>> >>>> So this is part of the reason for my questions. >>>> >>>> Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. >>>> >>>> cheers and happy holidays! >>>> >>>> Cara >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Cara, >>>>&g
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
I don't think I would buy it. It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details. Evan On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote: I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% going to make before. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Shane, Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial statements, employer communications and similar material may not be linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access them. The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. Kelly On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: Cara, Thanks so much for your patients. I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only store randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. None of this is linked with any user's personal details. Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with third parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, and happy holidays! :) On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: Hi Shane, Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking into that. I really appreciate it. When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance customer experience, we ended up deciding against it because even though the provided data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave us the customer's city, so we opted not to use analytics of any kind. Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, relatively, even having the city of a customer is often-times enough to identify that person. So this is part of the reason for my questions. Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. cheers and happy holidays! Cara On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: Cara, Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our developers last week! :) I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but I have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I will cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you the most accurate info. Stay tuned! On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well. Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and hope it helps. OK so now on to my issue and questions; I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly, I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The button just do
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
I agree. This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100% going to make before. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Shane, Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial statements, employer communications and similar material may not be linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access them. The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. Kelly On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: > Cara, > Thanks so much for your patients. > I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only store > randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. > None of this is linked with any user's personal details. > Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with third > parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, > and happy holidays! :) > > On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >> Hi Shane, >> >> Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking >> into that. I really appreciate it. >> >> When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance >> customer experience, we ended up deciding against it because even >> though the provided data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave >> us the customer's city, so we opted not to use analytics of any kind. >> >> Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, >> relatively, even having the city of a customer is often-times enough >> to identify that person. >> >> So this is part of the reason for my questions. >> >> Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. >> >> cheers and happy holidays! >> >> Cara >> >> >> >>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> >>> Cara, >>> Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. >>> I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, >>> which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our >>> developers last week! :) >>> >>> I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but >>> I have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I >>> will cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you >>> the most accurate info. Stay tuned! >>> >>> >>> On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may >>>> wish to know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) >>>> as well. >>>> >>>> Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m >>>> very impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. >>>> >>>> I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that >>>> I needed to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually >>>> possible to have each AVSpeechUtterance have its >>>> prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set to true so that it >>>> will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would be possible >>>> for folks not to
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images? Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps scanned images of things people OCR on their devices. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Shane, Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial statements, employer communications and similar material may not be linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access them. The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. Kelly On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: > Cara, > Thanks so much for your patients. > I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only store > randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. > None of this is linked with any user's personal details. > Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with third > parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, > and happy holidays! :) > > On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >> Hi Shane, >> >> Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking >> into that. I really appreciate it. >> >> When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance >> customer experience, we ended up deciding against it because even >> though the provided data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave >> us the customer's city, so we opted not to use analytics of any kind. >> >> Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, >> relatively, even having the city of a customer is often-times enough >> to identify that person. >> >> So this is part of the reason for my questions. >> >> Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. >> >> cheers and happy holidays! >> >> Cara >> >> >> >>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> >>> Cara, >>> Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. >>> I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, >>> which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our >>> developers last week! :) >>> >>> I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but >>> I have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I >>> will cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you >>> the most accurate info. Stay tuned! >>> >>> >>> On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may >>>> wish to know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) >>>> as well. >>>> >>>> Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m >>>> very impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. >>>> >>>> I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that >>>> I needed to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually >>>> possible to have each AVSpeechUtterance have its >>>> prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set to true so that it >>>> will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would be possible >>>> for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration to >>>> have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a >>>> thought and hope it helps. >>>> >>>> OK so now on to my issue and questions; >>>> >>>> I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase
RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
My understanding is that the document channel of Seeing AI uses Microsoft servers. Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy • I’m not the card shark • My web site, www.turner42.com • -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 7:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense Kelly, you say that Seeing AI analyzes the scanned material on the device. If this be true, I am glad to know it. I thought the only one of these programs that did analyze the scanned material on my device is Voice Dream Scanner. These other apps definitely have their places, but I hope not to be reading anything with them that contains my credit card or social security number on it to be sent off to who knows where to be interpreted. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Shane, Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial statements, employer communications and similar material may not be linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access them. The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. Kelly On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: > Cara, > Thanks so much for your patients. > I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only store > randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. > None of this is linked with any user's personal details. > Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with third > parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, > and happy holidays! :) > > On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >> Hi Shane, >> >> Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking >> into that. I really appreciate it. >> >> When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance >> customer experience, we ended up deciding against it because even >> though the provided data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave >> us the customer's city, so we opted not to use analytics of any kind. >> >> Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, >> relatively, even having the city of a customer is often-times enough >> to identify that person. >> >> So this is part of the reason for my questions. >> >> Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. >> >> cheers and happy holidays! >> >> Cara >> >> >> >>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> >>> Cara, >>> Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. >>> I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, >>> which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our >>> developers last week! :) >>> >>> I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but >>> I have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I >>> will cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you >>> the most accurate info. Stay tuned! >>> >>> >>> On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may >>>> wish to know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) >>>> as well. >>>> >>>> Shane, first off
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Kelly, you say that Seeing AI analyzes the scanned material on the device. If this be true, I am glad to know it. I thought the only one of these programs that did analyze the scanned material on my device is Voice Dream Scanner. These other apps definitely have their places, but I hope not to be reading anything with them that contains my credit card or social security number on it to be sent off to who knows where to be interpreted. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Shane, Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial statements, employer communications and similar material may not be linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access them. The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. Kelly On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: > Cara, > Thanks so much for your patients. > I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only store > randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. > None of this is linked with any user's personal details. > Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with third > parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, > and happy holidays! :) > > On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >> Hi Shane, >> >> Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking into >> that. I really appreciate it. >> >> When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance >> customer >> experience, we ended up deciding against it because even though the >> provided >> data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave us the customer's city, >> so >> we opted not to use analytics of any kind. >> >> Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, relatively, >> even having the city of a customer is often-times enough to identify that >> person. >> >> So this is part of the reason for my questions. >> >> Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. >> >> cheers and happy holidays! >> >> Cara >> >> >> >>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> >>> Cara, >>> Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. >>> I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, >>> which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our >>> developers last week! :) >>> >>> I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but I >>> have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I will >>> cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you the >>> most accurate info. Stay tuned! >>> >>> >>> On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well. Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and hope it helps. OK so now on to my issue and questions; I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly, I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The button just does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if this may be an issue with the app’s UI with VO? This takes me to my privacy questions; Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that I have questions on. >
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Shane, Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial statements, employer communications and similar material may not be linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly, such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to access them. The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related interactive or cloud based services is the issue of data collection policies that fail to understand that the blind community is relatively small. People can be easily identified based on contextual information, even though it is stripped of metadata like names and e-mail addresses. Kelly On 12/24/20, Shane Lowe wrote: > Cara, > Thanks so much for your patients. > I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only store > randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. > None of this is linked with any user's personal details. > Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with third > parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, > and happy holidays! :) > > On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >> Hi Shane, >> >> Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking into >> that. I really appreciate it. >> >> When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance >> customer >> experience, we ended up deciding against it because even though the >> provided >> data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave us the customer's city, >> so >> we opted not to use analytics of any kind. >> >> Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, relatively, >> even having the city of a customer is often-times enough to identify that >> person. >> >> So this is part of the reason for my questions. >> >> Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. >> >> cheers and happy holidays! >> >> Cara >> >> >> >>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >>> >>> Cara, >>> Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. >>> I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, >>> which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our >>> developers last week! :) >>> >>> I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but I >>> have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I will >>> cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you the >>> most accurate info. Stay tuned! >>> >>> >>> On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well. Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and hope it helps. OK so now on to my issue and questions; I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly, I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The button just does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if this may be an issue with the app’s UI with VO? This takes me to my privacy questions; Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that I have questions on. I’ll post the two relevant sections here, followed by my questions: 1 Information Collection and Use For a better experience, while using our Service, we may require you to provide us with certain personally identifiable information, including but not limited to email addresses, in addition to text data and image data. The personally identifiable information that we request will be retained by us and used as described in this privacy policy. The anonymized data that is collected throughout th
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Cara, Thanks so much for your patients. I confirmed directly from the Co-founder of Mediate that we only store randomized usage data to determine the quality of our AI technology. None of this is linked with any user's personal details. Furthermore, we do not share any of our user's information with third parties. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, and happy holidays! :) On 12/23/20, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi Shane, > > Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking into > that. I really appreciate it. > > When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance customer > experience, we ended up deciding against it because even though the provided > data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave us the customer's city, so > we opted not to use analytics of any kind. > > Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, relatively, > even having the city of a customer is often-times enough to identify that > person. > > So this is part of the reason for my questions. > > Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. > > cheers and happy holidays! > > Cara > > > >> On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: >> >> Cara, >> Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. >> I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, >> which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our >> developers last week! :) >> >> I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but I >> have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I will >> cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you the >> most accurate info. Stay tuned! >> >> >> On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >>> This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to >>> know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well. >>> >>> Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very >>> impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. >>> >>> I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I >>> needed >>> to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each >>> AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property >>> set >>> to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it >>> would >>> be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a >>> consideration >>> to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought >>> and >>> hope it helps. >>> >>> OK so now on to my issue and questions; >>> >>> I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly, >>> I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The >>> button just does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if >>> this may be an issue with the app’s UI with VO? >>> >>> This takes me to my privacy questions; >>> >>> Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the >>> privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that >>> I >>> have questions on. >>> >>> I’ll post the two relevant sections here, followed by my questions: >>> >>> 1 Information Collection and Use >>> For a better experience, while using our Service, we may require you to >>> provide us with certain personally identifiable information, including >>> but >>> not limited to email addresses, in addition to text data and image data. >>> The >>> personally identifiable information that we request will be retained by >>> us >>> and used as described in this privacy policy. The anonymized data that >>> is >>> collected throughout the application may be used in collaboration with >>> universities for academic purposes to assist our customer community. >>> The app does use third party services that may collect information used >>> to >>> identify you. >>> Link to privacy policy of third party service providers used by the app >>> - Google Play Services >>> - Firebase Analytics >>> - Crashlytics >>> Log Data >>> >>> 2 Service Providers >>> We may employ third-party companies and individuals due to the following >>> reasons: >>> - To facilitate our Service; >>> - To provide the Service on our behalf; >>> - To perform Service-related services; or >>> - To assist us in analyzing how our Service is used. >>> We want to inform users of this Service that these third parties have >>> access >>> to your Personal Information. The reason is to perform the tasks assigned >>> to >>> them on our behalf. However, they are obligated not to disclose or use >>> the >>> information for any other purpose. >>> >>> So in section 1 above, you mention that text and image data may be >>> collected. Does this mean that people should not use this app for >>> reading >>> credit card numbers and sensitive personal information? >>> >>> In section 2, similarly to section 1, you mention that third parties or >>> individuals also may ha
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Hi Shane, Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking into that. I really appreciate it. When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance customer experience, we ended up deciding against it because even though the provided data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave us the customer's city, so we opted not to use analytics of any kind. Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, relatively, even having the city of a customer is often-times enough to identify that person. So this is part of the reason for my questions. Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out. cheers and happy holidays! Cara > On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe wrote: > > Cara, > Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. > I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, > which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our > developers last week! :) > > I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but I > have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I will > cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you the > most accurate info. Stay tuned! > > > On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: >> This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to >> know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well. >> >> Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very >> impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. >> >> I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed >> to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each >> AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set >> to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would >> be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration >> to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and >> hope it helps. >> >> OK so now on to my issue and questions; >> >> I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly, >> I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The >> button just does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if >> this may be an issue with the app’s UI with VO? >> >> This takes me to my privacy questions; >> >> Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the >> privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that I >> have questions on. >> >> I’ll post the two relevant sections here, followed by my questions: >> >> 1 Information Collection and Use >> For a better experience, while using our Service, we may require you to >> provide us with certain personally identifiable information, including but >> not limited to email addresses, in addition to text data and image data. The >> personally identifiable information that we request will be retained by us >> and used as described in this privacy policy. The anonymized data that is >> collected throughout the application may be used in collaboration with >> universities for academic purposes to assist our customer community. >> The app does use third party services that may collect information used to >> identify you. >> Link to privacy policy of third party service providers used by the app >> - Google Play Services >> - Firebase Analytics >> - Crashlytics >> Log Data >> >> 2 Service Providers >> We may employ third-party companies and individuals due to the following >> reasons: >> - To facilitate our Service; >> - To provide the Service on our behalf; >> - To perform Service-related services; or >> - To assist us in analyzing how our Service is used. >> We want to inform users of this Service that these third parties have access >> to your Personal Information. The reason is to perform the tasks assigned to >> them on our behalf. However, they are obligated not to disclose or use the >> information for any other purpose. >> >> So in section 1 above, you mention that text and image data may be >> collected. Does this mean that people should not use this app for reading >> credit card numbers and sensitive personal information? >> >> In section 2, similarly to section 1, you mention that third parties or >> individuals also may have access to personally identifiable information. >> Will folks be alerted to this personaly identifiable data being shared and >> have the chance to get more information on each instance or opt out? >> >> Thanks so much Shane and I’m very interested in your responses to these >> questions as I am really looking forward to using this app with the lifetime >> subscription with privacy and such preserved. >> >> Thanks a bunch and please let me wish you and yours a lovely and safe >> holiday season and great new year! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Cara >> >> -- >> The following information i
Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
Cara, Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns. I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate, which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our developers last week! :) I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but I have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I will cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you the most accurate info. Stay tuned! On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn wrote: > This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to > know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well. > > Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very > impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. > > I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed > to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each > AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set > to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would > be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration > to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and > hope it helps. > > OK so now on to my issue and questions; > > I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly, > I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The > button just does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if > this may be an issue with the app’s UI with VO? > > This takes me to my privacy questions; > > Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the > privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that I > have questions on. > > I’ll post the two relevant sections here, followed by my questions: > > 1 Information Collection and Use > For a better experience, while using our Service, we may require you to > provide us with certain personally identifiable information, including but > not limited to email addresses, in addition to text data and image data. The > personally identifiable information that we request will be retained by us > and used as described in this privacy policy. The anonymized data that is > collected throughout the application may be used in collaboration with > universities for academic purposes to assist our customer community. > The app does use third party services that may collect information used to > identify you. > Link to privacy policy of third party service providers used by the app > - Google Play Services > - Firebase Analytics > - Crashlytics > Log Data > > 2 Service Providers > We may employ third-party companies and individuals due to the following > reasons: > - To facilitate our Service; > - To provide the Service on our behalf; > - To perform Service-related services; or > - To assist us in analyzing how our Service is used. > We want to inform users of this Service that these third parties have access > to your Personal Information. The reason is to perform the tasks assigned to > them on our behalf. However, they are obligated not to disclose or use the > information for any other purpose. > > So in section 1 above, you mention that text and image data may be > collected. Does this mean that people should not use this app for reading > credit card numbers and sensitive personal information? > > In section 2, similarly to section 1, you mention that third parties or > individuals also may have access to personally identifiable information. > Will folks be alerted to this personaly identifiable data being shared and > have the chance to get more information on each instance or opt out? > > Thanks so much Shane and I’m very interested in your responses to these > questions as I am really looking forward to using this app with the lifetime > subscription with privacy and such preserved. > > Thanks a bunch and please let me wish you and yours a lovely and safe > holiday season and great new year! > > Cheers! > > Cara > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C1A8DA5-A8E
Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense
This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well. Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app. I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and hope it helps. OK so now on to my issue and questions; I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly, I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The button just does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if this may be an issue with the app’s UI with VO? This takes me to my privacy questions; Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that I have questions on. I’ll post the two relevant sections here, followed by my questions: 1 Information Collection and Use For a better experience, while using our Service, we may require you to provide us with certain personally identifiable information, including but not limited to email addresses, in addition to text data and image data. The personally identifiable information that we request will be retained by us and used as described in this privacy policy. The anonymized data that is collected throughout the application may be used in collaboration with universities for academic purposes to assist our customer community. The app does use third party services that may collect information used to identify you. Link to privacy policy of third party service providers used by the app - Google Play Services - Firebase Analytics - Crashlytics Log Data 2 Service Providers We may employ third-party companies and individuals due to the following reasons: - To facilitate our Service; - To provide the Service on our behalf; - To perform Service-related services; or - To assist us in analyzing how our Service is used. We want to inform users of this Service that these third parties have access to your Personal Information. The reason is to perform the tasks assigned to them on our behalf. However, they are obligated not to disclose or use the information for any other purpose. So in section 1 above, you mention that text and image data may be collected. Does this mean that people should not use this app for reading credit card numbers and sensitive personal information? In section 2, similarly to section 1, you mention that third parties or individuals also may have access to personally identifiable information. Will folks be alerted to this personaly identifiable data being shared and have the chance to get more information on each instance or opt out? Thanks so much Shane and I’m very interested in your responses to these questions as I am really looking forward to using this app with the lifetime subscription with privacy and such preserved. Thanks a bunch and please let me wish you and yours a lovely and safe holiday season and great new year! Cheers! Cara -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C1A8DA5-A8E2-4BAC-B30A-60DA41E28338%40caraquinn.com.
