Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Ok, you have to imagine this like the old radio dials, the tuning dial for example. You'd hold it between finger and thumb, and twist it. So you try to do this on the screen, hold your fingers a bit apart like you're holding one of those twist knobs, put finger and thumb on the screen, then twist, you might have to take fingers off and put them on to twist it some more, but it will take you through all the options. You can twist either way, it will go right round back to the beginning eventually. Knowing what you're on can offer a short cut, though they seem to appear in a more random order than they used to; not a good feature. Hth, RobH. - Original Message - From: Mária Orovcíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
What you want to achieve is the sort of movement that you have if you turn the knob on the radio so imagine that you want to turn on a radio, not one of the switch sliders but one of those that the volume knob turns around, with your thumb and finger on one hand. if you can't actually turn your thumb and finger and get it to work, try putting your thumb and finger in the position that you think they should be, then gently turn your other hand with a wrist movement as you hold the phone in it and see if that works for you. this also achieves the same thing. I hope this helps. Carol P Sent from my iPhone On 5 Nov 2012, at 11:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Also, you can go into the VO settings and practice the gesture without changing any settings. This may enable you to practice with a little more confidence and be less tentative, if that's part of the problem. Teresa On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: What you want to achieve is the sort of movement that you have if you turn the knob on the radio so imagine that you want to turn on a radio, not one of the switch sliders but one of those that the volume knob turns around, with your thumb and finger on one hand. if you can't actually turn your thumb and finger and get it to work, try putting your thumb and finger in the position that you think they should be, then gently turn your other hand with a wrist movement as you hold the phone in it and see if that works for you. this also achieves the same thing. I hope this helps. Carol P Sent from my iPhone On 5 Nov 2012, at 11:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person can't see. You can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with vo on. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Cheryl, I completely agree, I would find it very difficult to demonstrate it to someone. I’ve always described it to people as like turning a knob with two fingers. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: 05 November 2012 16:21 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person can't see. You can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with vo on. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
I have trained lots of blind, visually and fully sighted people how to use Voiceover on an iPhone and iPad, and I have a huge success on showing people how to turn the rotor. If people don't understand my explanation, I usually take their hand, carefully place their fingers on the screen and turn the device slowly so they can feel what it feels like. Then I hold the device with one hand so they can't move it, and them I take their hand again, and slowly turn their hand so they get a more natural feel on how to do it. People use that jesture differently, and the trick is to figure out what works best for them. You can use whatever fingers you want. The device don't care. :) Just make sure you're only using two fingers. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.20 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person can't see. You can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with vo on. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Yeah, my friend tried that too. But thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Also, you can go into the VO settings and practice the gesture without changing any settings. This may enable you to practice with a little more confidence and be less tentative, if that's part of the problem. Teresa On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: What you want to achieve is the sort of movement that you have if you turn the knob on the radio so imagine that you want to turn on a radio, not one of the switch sliders but one of those that the volume knob turns around, with your thumb and finger on one hand. if you can't actually turn your thumb and finger and get it to work, try putting your thumb and finger in the position that you think they should be, then gently turn your other hand with a wrist movement as you hold the phone in it and see if that works for you. this also achieves the same thing. I hope this helps. Carol P Sent from my iPhone On 5 Nov 2012, at 11:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
The key is that you need to have two fingers on the screen moving in opposite directions. Try placing the iPhone on a flat surface, so you can use both hands if you want, now place two fingers on the screen, one near the left edge and another near the right edge, about an inch apart. Now move those fingers in the opposite direction, one from left to right and the other from right to left. This should give you the roter gesture. This may be a bit cumbersome to do all of the time, but once you have it working once, you'll be able to practice it until you get comfortable using some simpler methods. On 05/11/12 10:08, Cheryl Homiak wrote: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
That sounds more like a pinch gesture. I use the rotor by imagining a small knob like a volume control on a radio. I put my thumb and foreginer together and twist left or right. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone The key is that you need to have two fingers on the screen moving in opposite directions. Try placing the iPhone on a flat surface, so you can use both hands if you want, now place two fingers on the screen, one near the left edge and another near the right edge, about an inch apart. Now move those fingers in the opposite direction, one from left to right and the other from right to left. This should give you the roter gesture. This may be a bit cumbersome to do all of the time, but once you have it working once, you'll be able to practice it until you get comfortable using some simpler methods. On 05/11/12 10:08, Cheryl Homiak wrote: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Sorry, in my example, the fingers are moving parallel to each other and not towards each other. They're about an inch apart, moving parallel to each other, in opposite directions. I hope that helps. On 05/11/12 13:55, Steve wrote: That sounds more like a pinch gesture. I use the rotor by imagining a small knob like a volume control on a radio. I put my thumb and foreginer together and twist left or right. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone The key is that you need to have two fingers on the screen moving in opposite directions. Try placing the iPhone on a flat surface, so you can use both hands if you want, now place two fingers on the screen, one near the left edge and another near the right edge, about an inch apart. Now move those fingers in the opposite direction, one from left to right and the other from right to left. This should give you the roter gesture. This may be a bit cumbersome to do all of the time, but once you have it working once, you'll be able to practice it until you get comfortable using some simpler methods. On 05/11/12 10:08, Cheryl Homiak wrote: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
I use the rotor the way most people do. I Have just tried this new approach to see if itw would work, and it does 2 out of 3 trials, without much practice, at least for me. I hold the phone in my left hand with my left thumb over the screen, at about the 9 o'clock position, and my right finger over the screen at about the one o'clock position. I touch the screen simultaneously with my left thumb (1 o'clock) and right index finger (1 o'clock) and gently move my right index finger down, from the 1 c'clock position towards the 5 o clock position. For me, the rotor activates and changes 2 out of 3 tries without ever having tried this before. It may help. Worth a try, any way. Best, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Sorry, in my example, the fingers are moving parallel to each other and not towards each other. They're about an inch apart, moving parallel to each other, in opposite directions. I hope that helps. On 05/11/12 13:55, Steve wrote: That sounds more like a pinch gesture. I use the rotor by imagining a small knob like a volume control on a radio. I put my thumb and foreginer together and twist left or right. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone The key is that you need to have two fingers on the screen moving in opposite directions. Try placing the iPhone on a flat surface, so you can use both hands if you want, now place two fingers on the screen, one near the left edge and another near the right edge, about an inch apart. Now move those fingers in the opposite direction, one from left to right and the other from right to left. This should give you the roter gesture. This may be a bit cumbersome to do all of the time, but once you have it working once, you'll be able to practice it until you get comfortable using some simpler methods. On 05/11/12 10:08, Cheryl Homiak wrote: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
I don't think i'd have trouble demonstrating as such, though this is going to depend mostly on the comprehension of the trainee. But you do the gesture on the back of their hand, while it is more or less in situ with the iDevice, then they try and emulate what they feel you do. You could step them through quite a lot as you do a gesture relative to what was heard from VO and the trainee mirrors what you did;and then you get to pause and see if they make the right gesture and reproduce again as necessary and so on. Getting into the right angle to use right hand on right hand for example could be a bit tricky, but this method sounds as plausible as any. Trainer would need a light touch so as to not hamper the trainees movements, but we tend to have a knack of following the movements of a guide lightly so they're not sure you're still there. RobH. - Original Message - From: Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Cheryl, I completely agree, I would find it very difficult to demonstrate it to someone. I’ve always described it to people as like turning a knob with two fingers. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: 05 November 2012 16:21 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person can't see. You can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with vo on. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Hey guys, when I taught my last iPhone class, I taught the rotar this way and it worked great. The student was able to pick it up quite well, lightly using the back of the hand as my surface I showed them how to turn the rotar and what to do and it worked perfectly, this also works for gestures, and tapping as well. Hope this helps. Thanks. On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Rob Harris wrote: I don't think i'd have trouble demonstrating as such, though this is going to depend mostly on the comprehension of the trainee. But you do the gesture on the back of their hand, while it is more or less in situ with the iDevice, then they try and emulate what they feel you do. You could step them through quite a lot as you do a gesture relative to what was heard from VO and the trainee mirrors what you did;and then you get to pause and see if they make the right gesture and reproduce again as necessary and so on. Getting into the right angle to use right hand on right hand for example could be a bit tricky, but this method sounds as plausible as any. Trainer would need a light touch so as to not hamper the trainees movements, but we tend to have a knack of following the movements of a guide lightly so they're not sure you're still there. RobH. - Original Message - From: Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Cheryl, I completely agree, I would find it very difficult to demonstrate it to someone. I’ve always described it to people as like turning a knob with two fingers. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: 05 November 2012 16:21 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person can't see. You can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with vo on. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Simple way to do the rotor. I put two fingers with a space between them on the screen. Then I turn the iPhone under my two fingers. After a while doing it this way, I began feeling the movement and now I can do a little of the movement with the phone still. I still need to move the phone, but I understand the gesture. Reggie and Brooks On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't think i'd have trouble demonstrating as such, though this is going to depend mostly on the comprehension of the trainee. But you do the gesture on the back of their hand, while it is more or less in situ with the iDevice, then they try and emulate what they feel you do. You could step them through quite a lot as you do a gesture relative to what was heard from VO and the trainee mirrors what you did;and then you get to pause and see if they make the right gesture and reproduce again as necessary and so on. Getting into the right angle to use right hand on right hand for example could be a bit tricky, but this method sounds as plausible as any. Trainer would need a light touch so as to not hamper the trainees movements, but we tend to have a knack of following the movements of a guide lightly so they're not sure you're still there. RobH. - Original Message - From: Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Cheryl, I completely agree, I would find it very difficult to demonstrate it to someone. I’ve always described it to people as like turning a knob with two fingers. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: 05 November 2012 16:21 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person can't see. You can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with vo on. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone
Both the two-handed and two-finger-turn-phone methods sound like they might be something my friend can do to give her a feel for how to do the rotor. I'm going to try these with her. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:35 PM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: Simple way to do the rotor. I put two fingers with a space between them on the screen. Then I turn the iPhone under my two fingers. After a while doing it this way, I began feeling the movement and now I can do a little of the movement with the phone still. I still need to move the phone, but I understand the gesture. Reggie and Brooks On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't think i'd have trouble demonstrating as such, though this is going to depend mostly on the comprehension of the trainee. But you do the gesture on the back of their hand, while it is more or less in situ with the iDevice, then they try and emulate what they feel you do. You could step them through quite a lot as you do a gesture relative to what was heard from VO and the trainee mirrors what you did;and then you get to pause and see if they make the right gesture and reproduce again as necessary and so on. Getting into the right angle to use right hand on right hand for example could be a bit tricky, but this method sounds as plausible as any. Trainer would need a light touch so as to not hamper the trainees movements, but we tend to have a knack of following the movements of a guide lightly so they're not sure you're still there. RobH. - Original Message - From: Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Cheryl, I completely agree, I would find it very difficult to demonstrate it to someone. I’ve always described it to people as like turning a knob with two fingers. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: 05 November 2012 16:21 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Please help, can't figure out how to use the rotor on Iphone Showing physically isn't that easy either when a person can't see. You can't exactly do it easily while somebody is touching your hand or force their hand through it, or at least i can't. Besides, a lot of us don't necessarily live where we have another blind person around to show us and from what I understand the gestures sighted people use are somewhat different. At least, none of my sighted friends can do their gestures with vo on. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk wrote: Hi. I haven't followed this discution, but sounds like she have to have someone to show hur phicically how to do it. It can be pretty difficult to explain how to do it, or some people find it difficult to understand without having someone to show them how to do it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 05/11/2012 kl. 17.08 skrev Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com: Yeah, I have a friend who can't do the rotor gesture. She has tried and tried until she has dreams (actually I think she said nightmares) where she is trying to do the rotor so I finally told her to put it on the back burner for a while because it is driving her crazy. She has read the description in the iPhone book from NBP and I've tried to describe it several different ways but she just can't seem to do it. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, it might sound silly, but although I have been Iphone user for quite a while I still don't know how to use the rotor. I know how to do the gesture I just cannot get it working. When I try the gesture I always open an application. I use the rotor the way that I kind of flick with both hands the opposite ways. It is not very practical. I know it is doable using one hand only. Please could you try and explain what I might have been doing wrong and how to get it working using one-hand gesture? I hope my question does make sense. Thank you for your help. With regards Maria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To
