RE: iTunes 11
I can't find the status bar toggle under the View menu as stated-- can anyone provide additional information? Thanks. Cher -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 I found the following article. Hope it helps. 5 Tips to Make iTunes 11 Look Normal Again Nov 29, 2012 - 69 Comments So you got iTunes 11, launched it for the first time, and now you're wondering where everything is and why it looks so different? You're not alone, any time an apps user interface is redesigned it's sure to leave some people confused as things are switched around, hidden, and adjusted. If you're a creature of habit like me, you'll want to make iTunes look normal again, that is, more familiar to what we've long become accustomed to with the past versions, and here are five simple tricks to do just that. Show All Your Music Again by Sorting by Songs Instead of Albums The new album view looks cool and all, but it can make it harder to browse music because it shows less music on screen. This is a super easy one to change, just click the Songs tab across the top and you'll see a familiar list of music again. Phew! Show Sidebar to See Playlists, iPhones, iPads, and the iTunes Store This is probably the most important thing to change immediately, because for whatever reason Apple hid the sidebar by default and if you're accustomed to seeing it all the time, that's really silly. Showing the iTunes sidebar again is simple, and you'll immediately be able to see all your playlists, iOS devices, and other stuff again: From iTunes, pull down the View menu and select Show Sidebar Show Status Bar How Many Songs in iTunes Library Again The status bar in iTunes tells you how many songs are in a library, what the playtime is, and how much space it takes up. This is useful knowledge particularly if you're trying to stuff an album or two onto a pretty full iPod or iPhone. Showing the status bar again is easy: Pull down the View menu and select Show Status Bar Show Podcasts Again If you subscribe to podcasts in iTunes and listen to them frequently, you probably want quick and easy access to them from the sidebar. You'll have to check this option in the preferences: Open iTunes Preferences and click on the General tab Check the box next to Podcasts under Library Lose the Color Scheming in Album View iTunes 11 changes the background color of the display window depending on album artwork. If you prefer your UI's to be nice and simple, disabling that feature is easy: Open iTunes Preferences and choose on the General tab Uncheck the box next to Use custom colors for open albums, movies, etc -Original Message- From: Robert Doc Wright Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: itunes 11 I recall someone writing a while back about changes to make Itunes 11 more accessible. Where can I find these? *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives
Re: itunes 11 question
Hi, The process is the same - set up the sync settings on your phone so that you get the materials you want. Best, Anna On Apr 7, 2013, at 7:46 PM, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am wondering how to move selected items like albums books etc to my phone. i knew how to do it in itunes 10 but am not sure how to do it in 11. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility
Window-Eyes is the recommended screen reader by Apple for iTunes. Awhile back this topic came up and I copied the text and posted it to the group when people were saying jaws did not work with iTunes in certain areas. If your screen reader isn't compatible, write to it's maker and complain. - Original Message - From: Alan Lemly To: VIPhone Email List Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:04 AM Subject: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility I use an older version of ZoomText (9.19) and I know it has compatibility issues with iTunes but I notice when accessing the iTunes Store on my PC, that much of the content presented seems to be images. At least I cant' find much text to copy to something else that can read it when ZoomText won't. I'm curious how other screen readers work in the iTunes Store when accessing it via your computers. Do others experience problems here and have you come up with any workarounds. the latest release of ZoomText which is version 10 is supposed to be compatible with iTunes. However, the Tech Support rep I spoke with yesterday admitted that he wasn't sure it worked with the iTunes Store since he thought the Store used a lot of images to present text. Is anyone out there using ZoomText 10 and if so, how does it work with the iTunes Store? Thanks in advance for any comments. Alan Lemly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility
The reference to Window Eyes has been on the site for years. The latest version of JAWS works quite well with the latest version of iTunes, and there are scripts, both free and paid, that make it work better. Andy From: Alan Paganelli Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility Window-Eyes is the recommended screen reader by Apple for iTunes. Awhile back this topic came up and I copied the text and posted it to the group when people were saying jaws did not work with iTunes in certain areas. If your screen reader isn't compatible, write to it's maker and complain. - Original Message - From: Alan Lemly To: VIPhone Email List Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:04 AM Subject: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility I use an older version of ZoomText (9.19) and I know it has compatibility issues with iTunes but I notice when accessing the iTunes Store on my PC, that much of the content presented seems to be images. At least I cant' find much text to copy to something else that can read it when ZoomText won't. I'm curious how other screen readers work in the iTunes Store when accessing it via your computers. Do others experience problems here and have you come up with any workarounds. the latest release of ZoomText which is version 10 is supposed to be compatible with iTunes. However, the Tech Support rep I spoke with yesterday admitted that he wasn't sure it worked with the iTunes Store since he thought the Store used a lot of images to present text. Is anyone out there using ZoomText 10 and if so, how does it work with the iTunes Store? Thanks in advance for any comments. Alan Lemly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility
I find Itunes 11 including the store fully accessible with JAWS 14. One of the biggest issues with jaws used to be not being able to change your debit card details as it would never work with the edit fields properly but it all seemed to work fine yesterday. itunes 11 with jaws is great if set up correctly. peter From: Alan Lemly Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:04 PM To: VIPhone Email List Subject: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility I use an older version of ZoomText (9.19) and I know it has compatibility issues with iTunes but I notice when accessing the iTunes Store on my PC, that much of the content presented seems to be images. At least I cant' find much text to copy to something else that can read it when ZoomText won't. I'm curious how other screen readers work in the iTunes Store when accessing it via your computers. Do others experience problems here and have you come up with any workarounds. the latest release of ZoomText which is version 10 is supposed to be compatible with iTunes. However, the Tech Support rep I spoke with yesterday admitted that he wasn't sure it worked with the iTunes Store since he thought the Store used a lot of images to present text. Is anyone out there using ZoomText 10 and if so, how does it work with the iTunes Store? Thanks in advance for any comments. Alan Lemly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility
Peter, Any details regarding your suggestion to get it set up correctly? Still struggling with iTuens 11 and JAWS 14. If you have some insights that might help, I'd love to hear them. Thanks. Keith From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility I find Itunes 11 including the store fully accessible with JAWS 14. One of the biggest issues with jaws used to be not being able to change your debit card details as it would never work with the edit fields properly but it all seemed to work fine yesterday. itunes 11 with jaws is great if set up correctly. peter From: Alan Lemlymailto:wale...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:04 PM To: VIPhone Email Listmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility I use an older version of ZoomText (9.19) and I know it has compatibility issues with iTunes but I notice when accessing the iTunes Store on my PC, that much of the content presented seems to be images. At least I cant' find much text to copy to something else that can read it when ZoomText won't. I'm curious how other screen readers work in the iTunes Store when accessing it via your computers. Do others experience problems here and have you come up with any workarounds. the latest release of ZoomText which is version 10 is supposed to be compatible with iTunes. However, the Tech Support rep I spoke with yesterday admitted that he wasn't sure it worked with the iTunes Store since he thought the Store used a lot of images to present text. Is anyone out there using ZoomText 10 and if so, how does it work with the iTunes Store? Thanks in advance for any comments. Alan Lemly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility
Hi Keith, Did you listen to Jonathan's FS Casts? I find the 2 Podcasts are pretty comprehensive when it comes to setting up iTunes and getting the best out of it with Jaws 14. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:16 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility Peter, Any details regarding your suggestion to get it set up correctly? Still struggling with iTuens 11 and JAWS 14. If you have some insights that might help, I'd love to hear them. Thanks. Keith _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility I find Itunes 11 including the store fully accessible with JAWS 14. One of the biggest issues with jaws used to be not being able to change your debit card details as it would never work with the edit fields properly but it all seemed to work fine yesterday. itunes 11 with jaws is great if set up correctly. peter From: Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:04 PM To: VIPhone Email List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iTunes 11 Store and Screen Reader Compatibility I use an older version of ZoomText (9.19) and I know it has compatibility issues with iTunes but I notice when accessing the iTunes Store on my PC, that much of the content presented seems to be images. At least I cant' find much text to copy to something else that can read it when ZoomText won't. I'm curious how other screen readers work in the iTunes Store when accessing it via your computers. Do others experience problems here and have you come up with any workarounds. the latest release of ZoomText which is version 10 is supposed to be compatible with iTunes. However, the Tech Support rep I spoke with yesterday admitted that he wasn't sure it worked with the iTunes Store since he thought the Store used a lot of images to present text. Is anyone out there using ZoomText 10 and if so, how does it work with the iTunes Store? Thanks in advance for any comments. Alan Lemly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
Re: iTunes 11 and manually choosing music
I don't know if I'm talking about the same thing here, because I never used iTunes before version 11, so this may be old news, but I figured out that to check checkboxes in iTunes using the keyboard, I have to press the application key, and then choose check selection from the list. Just pressing the spacebar didn't do anything. I also figured out (by accident), by the way, that Control + Shift + F will jump into the Search box. (This is apparently a shortcut key in iTunes itself). Again, sorry, this may be old information. Julie Adkins On Monday, December 24, 2012 9:27:48 AM UTC-5, r...@q.com wrote: Hi, I want to manually decide what music and books to sync with my iphone. The problem I am having is that the checkbox wfor doing that will not stay checked. I check it, hit the tab key and then the shift-tab to land on the checkbox again and the checkbox is unchecked. I figure I must have another setting that conflicts with checking this box but have no idea what it might be. Thanks for your help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iTunes 11
I have a question on itunes 11. How might I be able to update as my aps are not updating? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 8:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 If you press control S you can get your source list back. If you listen to FreedomScientific podcast comment you will also get good information about iTunes 11. Jenn Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Robbie Miller millerrob...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All, I recently upgraded to iTunes 11 on my windows Vista machine. Now the sources tree view seems to have disappeared. I am no longer able to search for music, find my iPhone or my iPad in the tree view,sync either device to transfer music, apps, books or anything. Do I have to configure iTunes 11 in order to do these things? If anyone can do these things with iTunes 11, please help. Thanks. Robbie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11
I think you can update in the help menu. Try looking in there first - Original Message - From: Mary Ellen Sanchez sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:12 PM Subject: RE: iTunes 11 I have a question on itunes 11. How might I be able to update as my aps are not updating? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 8:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 If you press control S you can get your source list back. If you listen to FreedomScientific podcast comment you will also get good information about iTunes 11. Jenn Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Robbie Miller millerrob...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All, I recently upgraded to iTunes 11 on my windows Vista machine. Now the sources tree view seems to have disappeared. I am no longer able to search for music, find my iPhone or my iPad in the tree view,sync either device to transfer music, apps, books or anything. Do I have to configure iTunes 11 in order to do these things? If anyone can do these things with iTunes 11, please help. Thanks. Robbie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11
Hi, I just upgraded to the latest version of itunes today and did the control s but still don't have the source list back, I'm using windows xp with jaws 11. Any ideas, thanks. Tessa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11
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Re: iTunes 11
If you press control S you can get your source list back. If you listen to FreedomScientific podcast comment you will also get good information about iTunes 11. Jenn Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Robbie Miller millerrob...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All, I recently upgraded to iTunes 11 on my windows Vista machine. Now the sources tree view seems to have disappeared. I am no longer able to search for music, find my iPhone or my iPad in the tree view,sync either device to transfer music, apps, books or anything. Do I have to configure iTunes 11 in order to do these things? If anyone can do these things with iTunes 11, please help. Thanks. Robbie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: itunes 11 question
Hi, On the Mac, bring up the source list with Command-Option-S (that's Control-S in Windows). Find your iPhone in the source list. Choose the Apps radio button. interact with the Apps table. Each app that is on your phone has a Remove button, and each app not on your phone has an Install button. I don't know whether these Remove and Install buttons are accessible in Windows. Best, Anna On Dec 15, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com wrote: How can I put an app from my library on to my phone with i tunes 11? I wish apple would leave software the same layout and not change things around. There are no check boxes so now you can't select which apps you want on your phone from your library for now that I can find. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: www.facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 minor update brings back duplicate finder | Apple - CNET News
Hello all I have updated it for Windows and yes the menu bar now speaks. Christopher Hallsworth On 13/12/2012 23:48, Cristobal wrote: So it looks like the first update has been rolled out. I'm not at my pc where I have iTunes installed, but perhaps others who have the chance can comment on whether they've noticed any fixes/improvements or if anything happened to be broken? I wonder if they fixed the menu bar not being spoken? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57559124-37/itunes-11-minor-update-brings- back-duplicate-finder/?part=rss http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57559124-37/itunes-11-minor-update-brings -back-duplicate-finder/?part=rsssubj=newstag=title subj=newstag=title -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 is out
I hope somebody from Apple is following and reporting the duscussions on this list. Emin -- From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out Hi, I don't agree that Apple is about to decrease their accessibility in ITunes for Windows. That would be ridiculous. There may be 1300 of us on this list but there are a lot more visually impaired people in the world and they have just begun to tap into our market. The longer they keep ITunes for Windows accessible, the more of us will have a chance to decide to go over to their side. They have already proven that. They know there is a market out there and they are going to continue to go after it. How many non visually impaired people in our families have gone over to Apple since we told them what Apple has been doing for us, and that will continue. Steve Jobbs had a vision and they know it and, if we are smart, we will continue to let them smell our money. After all, it's the same colour as non visually impaired people's money. No matter the colour, money smells good. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out While I agree in thinking people will begin to base more and more of their laptop/desktop purchases to compliment their smart phone needs*, I think it's a bit premature to say that apple won't continue to take accessibility into consideration for iTunes on the PC. With a few tweaks, the new version of iTunes works just as well, almost exactly as well in fact, as the previous versions of the software did on Windows. It's easy to bring back the side and menu bars and the only thing broken is the labelling of the File, View, Control, etc... menu titles -- the menus themselves still work. Once you learn the new layout and make the necessary tweaks, the program is hardly inaccessible -- this small thing is not a dealbreaker and using it as proof that apple will abandon PC accessibility is a bit ridiculous, imo. Now if you had used the iCloud manager and website as an example when they were released, that'd be another story. :P * I am actually switching to a mac mini because I am strongly contemplating the purchase of an iPad mini and will be upgrading to the next iPhone when my contract is up in August. -Marc On 12/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason for people to not get an iPhone, and Apple's answer to the people who want or need to use iTunes may just be, OK, great, go ahead and get a Mac. I do see companies like GW Micro and Freedom Scientific doing everything they can do to keep iTunes accessible under Windows I don't see MS doing much though since they compete with Apple across the board. On 30/11/12 22:43, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows
Re: iTunes 11 is out
I hope somebody from Apple is following and reporting the duscussions on this list. Emin -- From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out Hi, I don't agree that Apple is about to decrease their accessibility in ITunes for Windows. That would be ridiculous. There may be 1300 of us on this list but there are a lot more visually impaired people in the world and they have just begun to tap into our market. The longer they keep ITunes for Windows accessible, the more of us will have a chance to decide to go over to their side. They have already proven that. They know there is a market out there and they are going to continue to go after it. How many non visually impaired people in our families have gone over to Apple since we told them what Apple has been doing for us, and that will continue. Steve Jobbs had a vision and they know it and, if we are smart, we will continue to let them smell our money. After all, it's the same colour as non visually impaired people's money. No matter the colour, money smells good. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out While I agree in thinking people will begin to base more and more of their laptop/desktop purchases to compliment their smart phone needs*, I think it's a bit premature to say that apple won't continue to take accessibility into consideration for iTunes on the PC. With a few tweaks, the new version of iTunes works just as well, almost exactly as well in fact, as the previous versions of the software did on Windows. It's easy to bring back the side and menu bars and the only thing broken is the labelling of the File, View, Control, etc... menu titles -- the menus themselves still work. Once you learn the new layout and make the necessary tweaks, the program is hardly inaccessible -- this small thing is not a dealbreaker and using it as proof that apple will abandon PC accessibility is a bit ridiculous, imo. Now if you had used the iCloud manager and website as an example when they were released, that'd be another story. :P * I am actually switching to a mac mini because I am strongly contemplating the purchase of an iPad mini and will be upgrading to the next iPhone when my contract is up in August. -Marc On 12/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason for people to not get an iPhone, and Apple's answer to the people who want or need to use iTunes may just be, OK, great, go ahead and get a Mac. I do see companies like GW Micro and Freedom Scientific doing everything they can do to keep iTunes accessible under Windows I don't see MS doing much though since they compete with Apple across the board. On 30/11/12 22:43, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows
Re: iTunes 11 is out
I would doubt very much that Apple has anyone following this list and reporting back. If someone wants to make sure this gets fed back to Apple, I'd suggest using the accessibility email address for Apple. Note that in my comments below, I never talked about Apple's commitment to accessibility but rather just how committed they are to making one of their products accessible on a competitors platform. I believe Apple is committed to accessibility, but I'm not sure that vision extends to Windows. I also don't think 1300 people, or even everyone those 1300 people might influence, is even a blip on Apple's bottom line. I doubt very much Apple's commitment to accessibility is driven by how much they're going to make by selling Apple products specifically to blind people. Also, how many of those 1300 people on this list are using Windows? It may be a majority, but as we can see from following this list, there are quite a few Mac users, and that number is probably growing. This is all just my opinion. I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me. Only time will tell which of us is correct, so I vote for just waiting to find out! On 03/12/12 02:27, M. Emin Demirci wrote: I hope somebody from Apple is following and reporting the duscussions on this list. Emin -- From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out Hi, I don't agree that Apple is about to decrease their accessibility in ITunes for Windows. That would be ridiculous. There may be 1300 of us on this list but there are a lot more visually impaired people in the world and they have just begun to tap into our market. The longer they keep ITunes for Windows accessible, the more of us will have a chance to decide to go over to their side. They have already proven that. They know there is a market out there and they are going to continue to go after it. How many non visually impaired people in our families have gone over to Apple since we told them what Apple has been doing for us, and that will continue. Steve Jobbs had a vision and they know it and, if we are smart, we will continue to let them smell our money. After all, it's the same colour as non visually impaired people's money. No matter the colour, money smells good. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out While I agree in thinking people will begin to base more and more of their laptop/desktop purchases to compliment their smart phone needs*, I think it's a bit premature to say that apple won't continue to take accessibility into consideration for iTunes on the PC. With a few tweaks, the new version of iTunes works just as well, almost exactly as well in fact, as the previous versions of the software did on Windows. It's easy to bring back the side and menu bars and the only thing broken is the labelling of the File, View, Control, etc... menu titles -- the menus themselves still work. Once you learn the new layout and make the necessary tweaks, the program is hardly inaccessible -- this small thing is not a dealbreaker and using it as proof that apple will abandon PC accessibility is a bit ridiculous, imo. Now if you had used the iCloud manager and website as an example when they were released, that'd be another story. :P * I am actually switching to a mac mini because I am strongly contemplating the purchase of an iPad mini and will be upgrading to the next iPhone when my contract is up in August. -Marc On 12/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason
RE: iTunes 11 Shortcut Keys
Yes, the menu shortcut keys all work and to add to Sandy's suggestion, here is the list of the main menu shortcut keys. This is also the order the menu items are in and once you are in whichever menu tree Jaws speaks everything correctly and you can down arrow through the choices. There are only 6 main menu items and as in most cases, File is first and Help is last. I don't find it difficult even to remember that f I press Alt and then arrow to the right ttwice that I am then oon View, but it's also easy to memorize the shortcut keys especially since File, Edit, View and Help are often standard in other applications and the shortcut keys are always the same. This only leaves Control and Store. Here are the menu items and shortcut keys: File: Alt+F Edit: Alt+E View:Alt+V Controls: Alt+C Store:Alt+S Help: Alt+H Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 Shortcut Keys
Ummm, I entered the ALT+H and arrowed to “Shortcut Keys” but the resulting screen appeared empty – at least to JAWS 10. To You Yours: A Very Merry Christmas Happy New Year !!! Holland Bill - `There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me good; and I say, God bless it!' - A Christmas Carol, 1843, Charles Dickens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iTunes 11 Shortcut Keys
Bill, I assume you mean you down arrowed to the Keyboard Shortcuts item in the Help menu? If so try F6 after you press enter on Keyboard Shortcuts. I can't speak for Jaws 10 as I am on Jaws 14, but after I go to Keyboard Shortcuts I get the following: iTunes store Description: printiFrame After I press F6 I am on an HTML page and I can use the down arrow keys and all other Jaws reading keystrokes to read the text about all the keyboard shortcuts you can use. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 is out
This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason for people to not get an iPhone, and Apple's answer to the people who want or need to use iTunes may just be, OK, great, go ahead and get a Mac. I do see companies like GW Micro and Freedom Scientific doing everything they can do to keep iTunes accessible under Windows I don't see MS doing much though since they compete with Apple across the board. On 30/11/12 22:43, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows and I doubt Freedom Scientific will stop trying to make Jaws work well with iTunes either. Of course if you have been looking at getting a Mac anyways just to learn the OS and Voiceover because you like this type of stuff then it's perfectly justified to do so. I am personally a huge Windows and Jaws person, but I am also tempted sometimes to go out and buy a Mac Mini. Unfortunately I know I wold not be happy with the basic $699 version or whatever it is and the upgrade to an SSD, a faster CPU and more RAM would put that Mac Mini around $1,000 to $1,100 and I could get one heck of a nice Windows desktop or laptop for that or, for that matter, I could buy myself an unlocked iPhone 5 and an iPod Touch Fifth Generation for it. Why is there always more stuff I want to buy than what I can afford? Regards, Sieghard -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 is out
While I agree in thinking people will begin to base more and more of their laptop/desktop purchases to compliment their smart phone needs*, I think it's a bit premature to say that apple won't continue to take accessibility into consideration for iTunes on the PC. With a few tweaks, the new version of iTunes works just as well, almost exactly as well in fact, as the previous versions of the software did on Windows. It's easy to bring back the side and menu bars and the only thing broken is the labelling of the File, View, Control, etc... menu titles -- the menus themselves still work. Once you learn the new layout and make the necessary tweaks, the program is hardly inaccessible -- this small thing is not a dealbreaker and using it as proof that apple will abandon PC accessibility is a bit ridiculous, imo. Now if you had used the iCloud manager and website as an example when they were released, that'd be another story. :P * I am actually switching to a mac mini because I am strongly contemplating the purchase of an iPad mini and will be upgrading to the next iPhone when my contract is up in August. -Marc On 12/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason for people to not get an iPhone, and Apple's answer to the people who want or need to use iTunes may just be, OK, great, go ahead and get a Mac. I do see companies like GW Micro and Freedom Scientific doing everything they can do to keep iTunes accessible under Windows I don't see MS doing much though since they compete with Apple across the board. On 30/11/12 22:43, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows and I doubt Freedom Scientific will stop trying to make Jaws work well with iTunes either. Of course if you have been looking at getting a Mac anyways just to learn the OS and Voiceover because you like this type of stuff then it's perfectly justified to do so. I am personally a huge Windows and Jaws person, but I am also tempted sometimes to go out and buy a Mac Mini. Unfortunately I know I wold not be happy with the basic $699 version or whatever it is and the upgrade to an SSD, a faster CPU and more RAM would put that Mac Mini around $1,000 to $1,100 and I could get one heck of a nice Windows desktop or laptop for that or, for that matter, I could buy myself an unlocked iPhone 5 and an iPod Touch Fifth Generation for it. Why is there always more stuff I want to buy than what I can afford? Regards, Sieghard -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down
RE: iTunes 11 is out
Hi, I don't agree that Apple is about to decrease their accessibility in ITunes for Windows. That would be ridiculous. There may be 1300 of us on this list but there are a lot more visually impaired people in the world and they have just begun to tap into our market. The longer they keep ITunes for Windows accessible, the more of us will have a chance to decide to go over to their side. They have already proven that. They know there is a market out there and they are going to continue to go after it. How many non visually impaired people in our families have gone over to Apple since we told them what Apple has been doing for us, and that will continue. Steve Jobbs had a vision and they know it and, if we are smart, we will continue to let them smell our money. After all, it's the same colour as non visually impaired people's money. No matter the colour, money smells good. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out While I agree in thinking people will begin to base more and more of their laptop/desktop purchases to compliment their smart phone needs*, I think it's a bit premature to say that apple won't continue to take accessibility into consideration for iTunes on the PC. With a few tweaks, the new version of iTunes works just as well, almost exactly as well in fact, as the previous versions of the software did on Windows. It's easy to bring back the side and menu bars and the only thing broken is the labelling of the File, View, Control, etc... menu titles -- the menus themselves still work. Once you learn the new layout and make the necessary tweaks, the program is hardly inaccessible -- this small thing is not a dealbreaker and using it as proof that apple will abandon PC accessibility is a bit ridiculous, imo. Now if you had used the iCloud manager and website as an example when they were released, that'd be another story. :P * I am actually switching to a mac mini because I am strongly contemplating the purchase of an iPad mini and will be upgrading to the next iPhone when my contract is up in August. -Marc On 12/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason for people to not get an iPhone, and Apple's answer to the people who want or need to use iTunes may just be, OK, great, go ahead and get a Mac. I do see companies like GW Micro and Freedom Scientific doing everything they can do to keep iTunes accessible under Windows I don't see MS doing much though since they compete with Apple across the board. On 30/11/12 22:43, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows and I doubt Freedom Scientific will stop trying to make Jaws work well with iTunes either. Of course if you have been looking at getting a Mac anyways just to learn the OS and Voiceover because you like this type of stuff then it's
RE: iTunes 11 is out
Could this silly and irrelevant argument please cease? At 02:36 PM 12/1/2012, you wrote: Hi, I don't agree that Apple is about to decrease their accessibility in ITunes for Windows. That would be ridiculous. There may be 1300 of us on this list but there are a lot more visually impaired people in the world and they have just begun to tap into our market. The longer they keep ITunes for Windows accessible, the more of us will have a chance to decide to go over to their side. They have already proven that. They know there is a market out there and they are going to continue to go after it. How many non visually impaired people in our families have gone over to Apple since we told them what Apple has been doing for us, and that will continue. Steve Jobbs had a vision and they know it and, if we are smart, we will continue to let them smell our money. After all, it's the same colour as non visually impaired people's money. No matter the colour, money smells good. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out While I agree in thinking people will begin to base more and more of their laptop/desktop purchases to compliment their smart phone needs*, I think it's a bit premature to say that apple won't continue to take accessibility into consideration for iTunes on the PC. With a few tweaks, the new version of iTunes works just as well, almost exactly as well in fact, as the previous versions of the software did on Windows. It's easy to bring back the side and menu bars and the only thing broken is the labelling of the File, View, Control, etc... menu titles -- the menus themselves still work. Once you learn the new layout and make the necessary tweaks, the program is hardly inaccessible -- this small thing is not a dealbreaker and using it as proof that apple will abandon PC accessibility is a bit ridiculous, imo. Now if you had used the iCloud manager and website as an example when they were released, that'd be another story. :P * I am actually switching to a mac mini because I am strongly contemplating the purchase of an iPad mini and will be upgrading to the next iPhone when my contract is up in August. -Marc On 12/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason for people to not get an iPhone, and Apple's answer to the people who want or need to use iTunes may just be, OK, great, go ahead and get a Mac. I do see companies like GW Micro and Freedom Scientific doing everything they can do to keep iTunes accessible under Windows I don't see MS doing much though since they compete with Apple across the board. On 30/11/12 22:43, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows and I doubt Freedom Scientific will stop trying to make Jaws work well with iTunes either. Of course if you have been looking at getting a Mac anyways just to learn the OS
RE: iTunes 11 is out
Marc, Can you please summarize the few tweaks you're referring to, so I can make sure to get these taken care of right away after upgrading to iTunes 11? Thanks in advance. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 1:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out While I agree in thinking people will begin to base more and more of their laptop/desktop purchases to compliment their smart phone needs*, I think it's a bit premature to say that apple won't continue to take accessibility into consideration for iTunes on the PC. With a few tweaks, the new version of iTunes works just as well, almost exactly as well in fact, as the previous versions of the software did on Windows. It's easy to bring back the side and menu bars and the only thing broken is the labelling of the File, View, Control, etc... menu titles -- the menus themselves still work. Once you learn the new layout and make the necessary tweaks, the program is hardly inaccessible -- this small thing is not a dealbreaker and using it as proof that apple will abandon PC accessibility is a bit ridiculous, imo. Now if you had used the iCloud manager and website as an example when they were released, that'd be another story. :P * I am actually switching to a mac mini because I am strongly contemplating the purchase of an iPad mini and will be upgrading to the next iPhone when my contract is up in August. -Marc On 12/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason for people to not get an iPhone, and Apple's answer to the people who want or need to use iTunes may just be, OK, great, go ahead and get a Mac. I do see companies like GW Micro and Freedom Scientific doing everything they can do to keep iTunes accessible under Windows I don't see MS doing much though since they compete with Apple across the board. On 30/11/12 22:43, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows and I doubt Freedom Scientific will stop trying to make Jaws work well with iTunes either. Of course if you have been looking at getting a Mac anyways just to learn the OS and Voiceover because you like this type of stuff then it's perfectly justified to do so. I am personally a huge Windows and Jaws person, but I am also tempted sometimes to go out and buy a Mac Mini. Unfortunately I know I wold not be happy with the basic $699 version or whatever it is and the upgrade to an SSD, a faster CPU and more RAM would put that Mac Mini around $1,000 to $1,100 and I could get one heck of a nice Windows desktop or laptop for that or, for that matter, I could buy myself an unlocked iPhone 5 and an iPod Touch Fifth Generation for it. Why is there always more stuff I want to buy than what I can afford? Regards, Sieghard -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
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Here's a blog post that helped me. It contains five tweaks but I didn't use all of them. Still, I think two or three of them made things pretty normal: http://osxdaily.com/2012/11/29/5-tips-make-itunes-look-normal/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=twitterutm_campaign=Feed%3A+osxdaily+%28OS+X+Daily%29 HTH! -Marc On 12/1/12, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: Marc, Can you please summarize the few tweaks you're referring to, so I can make sure to get these taken care of right away after upgrading to iTunes 11? Thanks in advance. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 1:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out While I agree in thinking people will begin to base more and more of their laptop/desktop purchases to compliment their smart phone needs*, I think it's a bit premature to say that apple won't continue to take accessibility into consideration for iTunes on the PC. With a few tweaks, the new version of iTunes works just as well, almost exactly as well in fact, as the previous versions of the software did on Windows. It's easy to bring back the side and menu bars and the only thing broken is the labelling of the File, View, Control, etc... menu titles -- the menus themselves still work. Once you learn the new layout and make the necessary tweaks, the program is hardly inaccessible -- this small thing is not a dealbreaker and using it as proof that apple will abandon PC accessibility is a bit ridiculous, imo. Now if you had used the iCloud manager and website as an example when they were released, that'd be another story. :P * I am actually switching to a mac mini because I am strongly contemplating the purchase of an iPad mini and will be upgrading to the next iPhone when my contract is up in August. -Marc On 12/1/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my own conjecture, but I'm not surprised Marco is thinking of getting a Mac to enhance his mobile computing experience. I think we'll see more and more of this in the future. For those people who mostly consume content, they'll think of a smart phone or a tablet first and then if they want to add a lapttop or a desktop to the mix, they'll base their decision in part on what will work best with their smart phone / tablet they've chosen to use. I'm also not as convinced Apple will continue to care about iTunes accessibility on the PC. Again, this is just my conjecture, but I don't' think this is a priority for Apple now. I would be surprised if they didn't focus first on iTunes accessibility with VoiceOver on the Mac. As the Mac becomes more and more popular, I think Apple will continue to lower the priority of iTunes on Windows in general and on it's accessibility under Windows in particular. Also, with more and more functionality showing up in the Cloud, there's less and less need to use iTunes under Windows. The lack of iTunes accessibility under Windows won't be a reason for people to not get an iPhone, and Apple's answer to the people who want or need to use iTunes may just be, OK, great, go ahead and get a Mac. I do see companies like GW Micro and Freedom Scientific doing everything they can do to keep iTunes accessible under Windows I don't see MS doing much though since they compete with Apple across the board. On 30/11/12 22:43, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows and I doubt Freedom Scientific will stop trying to make Jaws work well with iTunes either. Of course if you have been looking at getting a Mac anyways just to learn the OS and Voiceover because you like this type of stuff then it's perfectly justified to do so. I am personally a huge Windows and Jaws person, but I am also tempted sometimes to go out and buy a Mac Mini. Unfortunately I know I wold not be happy with the basic $699 version or whatever it is and the upgrade to an SSD, a faster CPU and more RAM would put that Mac Mini around $1,000 to $1,100
RE: iTunes 11 is out
Hi, Find the menu button and hit enter on it. The menus will appear. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ming Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out I just downloaded it. and it seems working very well. I'm using xp and Jaws 14. how can we do the setting in it? it seems doesn't have the menu bar. I pres the alt key and it doesn't show anuything. Ming msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2012年11月30日 星期五，Jeffry Miller fafa...@gmail.com 寫道﹕ 寄件人: Jeffry Miller fafa...@gmail.com 主題: Re: iTunes 11 is out 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com 副本(CC): viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com 日期: 2012年11月30日,星期五,上午11:33 I downloaded iTunes 11, on both the Mac and PC. It looks okay on both sides. Jeffry miller On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochelea...@gmail.com wrote: So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iTunes 11 is out
So maybe I'll hold off on installing itunes 11 then until freedom scientific either releases an update to fix this issue with the menu or until apple releases an update to 11. Perhaps though the best solution would be to purchase a mac book computer for my apple products as this would complement the apple ecosystem. Marco -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: November-29-12 3:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out For the most part iTunes 11 is working well and I like the redesign. The menu bar does not talk when you right-arrow through it at this point, but the shortcut keys still work and pulling down the menus talk. Also there is a button to bring up the menu which speaks fine. I think it's snappier than the previous release. And yes as always in iTunes for Windows, f6 is your friend. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 11:36 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I would think not, but jaws 14, with windows 7. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:34 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out What version of JAWS and Windows are you using? Does that make a difference? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I have, but I never really thought iTunes was accessible with jaws to begin with. It's useable, but I much prefer using it on the mac, as opposed to the PC. Fir stoff, the menu bar doesn't read at all, and there's just generally a lot more tabbing around than in previous versions. Also, when arrowing through the album grid to find a song you want to listen to, JAWS doesn't interrupt, it reads each thing in a row, which is rather annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
RE: iTunes 11 is out
Hi Marco, I love my iPhone and I am sure there are many happy Mac users out there, but I think your logic to buy a Mac just because you think you may have a better iTunes experience to me at least makes no sense at all. iTunes works just fine with Jaws and while I am only planning to install iTunes 11 tonight, from the messages I read it sounds as if things are working well and that using the menu button is an easy work-around at this point. In any case, the way I use iTunes, I don't even have to use the menus very often and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with the menus not reading properly will be fixed fairly soon. Apart from that I doubt you get a much improved iTunes experience on a Mac. Don't forget that there is still a huge majority of iTunes users world wide who use Windows computers and Apple will not stop improving iTunes for Windows and I doubt Freedom Scientific will stop trying to make Jaws work well with iTunes either. Of course if you have been looking at getting a Mac anyways just to learn the OS and Voiceover because you like this type of stuff then it's perfectly justified to do so. I am personally a huge Windows and Jaws person, but I am also tempted sometimes to go out and buy a Mac Mini. Unfortunately I know I wold not be happy with the basic $699 version or whatever it is and the upgrade to an SSD, a faster CPU and more RAM would put that Mac Mini around $1,000 to $1,100 and I could get one heck of a nice Windows desktop or laptop for that or, for that matter, I could buy myself an unlocked iPhone 5 and an iPod Touch Fifth Generation for it. Why is there always more stuff I want to buy than what I can afford? Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 is out
So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iTunes 11 is out
I have, but I never really thought iTunes was accessible with jaws to begin with. It's useable, but I much prefer using it on the mac, as opposed to the PC. Fir stoff, the menu bar doesn't read at all, and there's just generally a lot more tabbing around than in previous versions. Also, when arrowing through the album grid to find a song you want to listen to, JAWS doesn't interrupt, it reads each thing in a row, which is rather annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 is out
I don't know about Jaws but Nvda shines through so far with this new release. Also F6 is still usable in this release. I also like how they have done the store. Categories are now organized into separate buttons you can activate and there is now a separate app store. I cannot figure out how to preview one or more tracks, even preview all, of an album or a single. I will play with it some more after my weekend at home with friends. Christopher Hallsworth On 29/11/2012 22:01, Daniel Miller wrote: I have, but I never really thought iTunes was accessible with jaws to begin with. It's useable, but I much prefer using it on the mac, as opposed to the PC. Fir stoff, the menu bar doesn't read at all, and there's just generally a lot more tabbing around than in previous versions. Also, when arrowing through the album grid to find a song you want to listen to, JAWS doesn't interrupt, it reads each thing in a row, which is rather annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iTunes 11 is out
What version of JAWS and Windows are you using? Does that make a difference? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I have, but I never really thought iTunes was accessible with jaws to begin with. It's useable, but I much prefer using it on the mac, as opposed to the PC. Fir stoff, the menu bar doesn't read at all, and there's just generally a lot more tabbing around than in previous versions. Also, when arrowing through the album grid to find a song you want to listen to, JAWS doesn't interrupt, it reads each thing in a row, which is rather annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iTunes 11 is out
I would think not, but jaws 14, with windows 7. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:34 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out What version of JAWS and Windows are you using? Does that make a difference? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I have, but I never really thought iTunes was accessible with jaws to begin with. It's useable, but I much prefer using it on the mac, as opposed to the PC. Fir stoff, the menu bar doesn't read at all, and there's just generally a lot more tabbing around than in previous versions. Also, when arrowing through the album grid to find a song you want to listen to, JAWS doesn't interrupt, it reads each thing in a row, which is rather annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iTunes 11 is out
Well, there's not much hope for my Wind XP and JAWS 10, then. Win7 and JAWS 14 coming in 2 weeks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I would think not, but jaws 14, with windows 7. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:34 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out What version of JAWS and Windows are you using? Does that make a difference? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I have, but I never really thought iTunes was accessible with jaws to begin with. It's useable, but I much prefer using it on the mac, as opposed to the PC. Fir stoff, the menu bar doesn't read at all, and there's just generally a lot more tabbing around than in previous versions. Also, when arrowing through the album grid to find a song you want to listen to, JAWS doesn't interrupt, it reads each thing in a row, which is rather annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iTunes 11 is out
For the most part iTunes 11 is working well and I like the redesign. The menu bar does not talk when you right-arrow through it at this point, but the shortcut keys still work and pulling down the menus talk. Also there is a button to bring up the menu which speaks fine. I think it's snappier than the previous release. And yes as always in iTunes for Windows, f6 is your friend. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 11:36 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I would think not, but jaws 14, with windows 7. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:34 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out What version of JAWS and Windows are you using? Does that make a difference? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I have, but I never really thought iTunes was accessible with jaws to begin with. It's useable, but I much prefer using it on the mac, as opposed to the PC. Fir stoff, the menu bar doesn't read at all, and there's just generally a lot more tabbing around than in previous versions. Also, when arrowing through the album grid to find a song you want to listen to, JAWS doesn't interrupt, it reads each thing in a row, which is rather annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email
Re: iTunes 11 is out
So it doesn't sound much worse than any past version of the software. Good to know, I may download this tomorrow. I'm also switching over to a Mac Mini in the upcoming weeks and imagine it'll work better on that anyway? -Marc On 11/29/12, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: For the most part iTunes 11 is working well and I like the redesign. The menu bar does not talk when you right-arrow through it at this point, but the shortcut keys still work and pulling down the menus talk. Also there is a button to bring up the menu which speaks fine. I think it's snappier than the previous release. And yes as always in iTunes for Windows, f6 is your friend. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 11:36 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I would think not, but jaws 14, with windows 7. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:34 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out What version of JAWS and Windows are you using? Does that make a difference? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 11 is out I have, but I never really thought iTunes was accessible with jaws to begin with. It's useable, but I much prefer using it on the mac, as opposed to the PC. Fir stoff, the menu bar doesn't read at all, and there's just generally a lot more tabbing around than in previous versions. Also, when arrowing through the album grid to find a song you want to listen to, JAWS doesn't interrupt, it reads each thing in a row, which is rather annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 11 is out So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group
Re: iTunes 11 is out
I had a rather strange issue upon first installing iTunes. After rebooting my computer as instructed I was told that my iTunes installation was corrupted and I needed to reinstall. After reinstalling though, everything seems to be running smoothly. In my opinion iTunes 11 is essentially very similar to previous versions of the software; the interface on top is just a little different. I think the interface is a lot less cluttered and the program runs a lot faster. There's a couple of strange accessibility issues at least with JAWS 14 (i.e. the issue of menu names not speaking as others have discussed) but in general the app seems quite accessible. It modifies your library the first time you open the program so I don't think there's any rolling back! I can't figure out where my iPhone's battery level is displayed anymore, but that's really the only omission I've found as of yet. Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 is out
Actually, if you hit control s while in itunes for Windows, you get back the sidebar category treeview that we're all used to so it's not bad at all really. Best, Rick alfaro On 11/29/2012 7:29 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: I had a rather strange issue upon first installing iTunes. After rebooting my computer as instructed I was told that my iTunes installation was corrupted and I needed to reinstall. After reinstalling though, everything seems to be running smoothly. In my opinion iTunes 11 is essentially very similar to previous versions of the software; the interface on top is just a little different. I think the interface is a lot less cluttered and the program runs a lot faster. There's a couple of strange accessibility issues at least with JAWS 14 (i.e. the issue of menu names not speaking as others have discussed) but in general the app seems quite accessible. It modifies your library the first time you open the program so I don't think there's any rolling back! I can't figure out where my iPhone's battery level is displayed anymore, but that's really the only omission I've found as of yet. Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 is out
I downloaded iTunes 11, on both the Mac and PC. It looks okay on both sides. Jeffry miller On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochelea...@gmail.com wrote: So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 11 is out
I just downloaded it. and it seems working very well. I'm using xp and Jaws 14. how can we do the setting in it? it seems doesn't have the menu bar. I pres the alt key and it doesn't show anuything. Ming msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2012年11月30日 星期五，Jeffry Miller fafa...@gmail.com 寫道﹕ 寄件人: Jeffry Miller fafa...@gmail.com 主題: Re: iTunes 11 is out 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com 副本(CC): viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com 日期: 2012年11月30日,星期五,上午11:33 I downloaded iTunes 11, on both the Mac and PC. It looks okay on both sides. Jeffry miller On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochelea...@gmail.com wrote: So has anyone downloaded iTunes 11 and tried it with jaws yet? I am really curious because I don't want to download it and have it be inaccessible. Of course, being the apple fanboy that I am, I really want to try the newly redesigned software! -Marc On 11/29/12, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: So, it appears that iTunes 11 is out. Anyone play with it yet with their computer or i-devices *syncking) and Jaws specifically? I'll probably give it a spin later today or tomorrow after I make sure I've got a back up exe file of an older version in case it doesn't work for me and would need to roll back. I saw it first on http://allthingsd.com/20121129/new-itunes-goes-to-11/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
