Re: what to choose

[Anthony Vece]

Thank you

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 23, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I have the revolve+ speaker.  Although, I'd like to get a soundflex
> speaker.  They cost $150.
> 
>> On 3/23/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> Which Bose speaker do you have?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Vicky Collins 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder how much difference the 2X2 MIMO in the SE versus the 4X4 MIMO in
>>> the 13s makes? I’m thinking the mmWav 5G not being in the SE wouldn’t make
>>> a difference to most people right now.
>>> I certainly don’t need another iPhone, but I considered buying the new SE
>>> anyway. For while I can handle Face ID without too much trouble most of
>>> the time in the day and the evening, I find myself switching back to my SE
>>> 2020 when I go to bed at night. I often wake up in the middle of the night
>>> and want to check something on my phone, but I just can’t seem to get the
>>> Face ID to work when I’m in the bed like that and I get tired of entering
>>> the passcode all the time.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>> 
>>> From: Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:18 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: what to choose
>>> 
>>> Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang for
>>> your money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would be
>>> from the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in
>>> 2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have the
>>> iPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I plan
>>> on transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a great
>>> sounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storage
>>> level for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> Richard,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and
>>>> 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall
>>>> smaller form factor.
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>> Richard Turner 
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: RE: what to choose
>>>> 
>>>> The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.
>>>> 
>>>> 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.
>>>> 
>>>> I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same
>>>> size
>>>> either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone
>>>> 8,
>>>> and 7.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Johna
>>>> Gravitt
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: what to choose
>>>> 
>>>> Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
>>>>  Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with
>>>> disabilities, access job openings at:
>>>> www.benderconsult.com/jobs<http://www.benderconsult.com/jobs> Bender
>>>> Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
>>>> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com
>>>> Phone: (412)-212-6761
>>>> Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567
>>>> Web: www.benderconsult.com<http://www.benderconsult.com>
>>>> https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/
>>>> https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/
>>>> https://idisability.benderconsult.com/
>>>> https://www.wbenc.org/certification/
>>>> https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/
>>>> Linkedin logo and link
>>>> Twitter logo and link
>>>> Instagram logo and lin

Re: what to choose

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have the revolve+ speaker.  Although, I'd like to get a soundflex
speaker.  They cost $150.

On 3/23/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> Which Bose speaker do you have?
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 23, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Vicky Collins 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I wonder how much difference the 2X2 MIMO in the SE versus the 4X4 MIMO in
>> the 13s makes? I’m thinking the mmWav 5G not being in the SE wouldn’t make
>> a difference to most people right now.
>> I certainly don’t need another iPhone, but I considered buying the new SE
>> anyway. For while I can handle Face ID without too much trouble most of
>> the time in the day and the evening, I find myself switching back to my SE
>> 2020 when I go to bed at night. I often wake up in the middle of the night
>> and want to check something on my phone, but I just can’t seem to get the
>> Face ID to work when I’m in the bed like that and I get tired of entering
>> the passcode all the time.
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>
>> From: Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what to choose
>>
>> Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang for
>> your money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would be
>> from the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in
>> 2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have the
>> iPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I plan
>> on transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a great
>> sounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storage
>> level for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.
>>
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> > Richard,
>> >
>> > Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and
>> > 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall
>> > smaller form factor.
>> >
>> > Alan Lemly
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS
>> > 
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> > Richard Turner 
>> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > Subject: RE: what to choose
>> >
>> > The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.
>> >
>> > 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.
>> >
>> > I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same
>> > size
>> > either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone
>> > 8,
>> > and 7.
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >
>> > My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> > Johna
>> > Gravitt
>> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: RE: what to choose
>> >
>> > Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?
>> >
>> >
>> > TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
>> >   Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with
>> > disabilities, access job openings at:
>> > www.benderconsult.com/jobs<http://www.benderconsult.com/jobs> Bender
>> > Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
>> > Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com
>> > Phone: (412)-212-6761
>> > Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567
>> > Web: www.benderconsult.com<http://www.benderconsult.com>
>> > https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/
>> > https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/
>> > https://idisability.benderconsult.com/
>> > https://www.wbenc.org/certification/
>> > https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/
>> > Linkedin logo and link
>> > Twitter logo and link
>> > Instagram logo and link
>> > Facebook logo and link
>> > Itunes logo and link to disabilty matters
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> > Lelia
>> > Struve
>> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: what to choose
>> >
>> > Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your
>> > opinion
>> >

Re: what to choose

[Anthony Vece]

Which Bose speaker do you have?

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 23, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder how much difference the 2X2 MIMO in the SE versus the 4X4 MIMO in 
> the 13s makes? I’m thinking the mmWav 5G not being in the SE wouldn’t make a 
> difference to most people right now.
> I certainly don’t need another iPhone, but I considered buying the new SE 
> anyway. For while I can handle Face ID without too much trouble most of the 
> time in the day and the evening, I find myself switching back to my SE 2020 
> when I go to bed at night. I often wake up in the middle of the night and 
> want to check something on my phone, but I just can’t seem to get the Face ID 
> to work when I’m in the bed like that and I get tired of entering the 
> passcode all the time.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> From: Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
>  
> Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang for
> your money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would be
> from the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in
> 2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have the
> iPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I plan
> on transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a great
> sounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storage
> level for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.
>  
>  
> Kelly
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> > Richard,
> > 
> > Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and
> > 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall
> > smaller form factor.
> > 
> > Alan Lemly
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS
> > ____
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> > Richard Turner 
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > Subject: RE: what to choose
> > 
> > The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.
> > 
> > 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.
> > 
> > I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same size
> > either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone 8,
> > and 7.
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna
> > Gravitt
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: what to choose
> > 
> > Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?
> > 
> > 
> > TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
> >   Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with
> > disabilities, access job openings at:
> > www.benderconsult.com/jobs<http://www.benderconsult.com/jobs> Bender
> > Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
> > Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com
> > Phone: (412)-212-6761
> > Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567
> > Web: www.benderconsult.com<http://www.benderconsult.com>
> > https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/
> > https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/
> > https://idisability.benderconsult.com/
> > https://www.wbenc.org/certification/
> > https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/
> > Linkedin logo and link
> > Twitter logo and link
> > Instagram logo and link
> > Facebook logo and link
> > Itunes logo and link to disabilty matters
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia
> > Struve
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: what to choose
> > 
> > Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion
> > of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the
> > battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.
> > 
> > Lelia
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a
> >> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone.
> >> That would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or
> >> 3.

RE: what to choose

[Vicky Collins]

I wonder how much difference the 2X2 MIMO in the SE versus the 4X4 MIMO in the 13s makes? I’m thinking the mmWav 5G not being in the SE wouldn’t make a difference to most people right now.I certainly don’t need another iPhone, but I considered buying the new SE anyway. For while I can handle Face ID without too much trouble most of the time in the day and the evening, I find myself switching back to my SE 2020 when I go to bed at night. I often wake up in the middle of the night and want to check something on my phone, but I just can’t seem to get the Face ID to work when I’m in the bed like that and I get tired of entering the passcode all the time. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Kelly PierceSent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:18 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: what to choose Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang foryour money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would befrom the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have theiPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I planon transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a greatsounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storagelevel for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.  KellyOn 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:> Richard,> > Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and> 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall> smaller form factor.> > Alan Lemly> > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of> Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: what to choose> > The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.> > 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.> > I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same size> either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone 8,> and 7.> > > Richard> > > My web site; https://www.turner42.com/> > -Original Message-> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna> Gravitt> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM> To: viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: what to choose> > Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?> > > TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!>   Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with> disabilities, access job openings at:> www.benderconsult.com/jobs Bender> Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com> Phone: (412)-212-6761> Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567> Web: www.benderconsult.com> https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/> https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/> https://idisability.benderconsult.com/> https://www.wbenc.org/certification/> https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/> Linkedin logo and link> Twitter logo and link> Instagram logo and link> Facebook logo and link> Itunes logo and link to disabilty matters> > -Original Message-> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia> Struve> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM> To: viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: what to choose> > Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion> of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the> battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.> > Lelia> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:>> >> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a>> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone.>> That would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or>> 3.>> >> -Original Message->> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On>> Behalf Of Alan Lemly>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: what to choose>> >> Hi Alison,>> >> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS.>> >> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those>> models are at the top of the price chain.>> >> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home>> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button>> is to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022>> announced last week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting>> at $429 USD for a new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 

Re: what to choose

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I heard today that when talking to someone at apple accessibility,
that the 13 pro iPhone goes up to one terabyte in size.  The cost for
this phone is about $1500.  Of course this price doesn't include apple
care, or any tax.  Who knows, maybe this time next year, there might
even be a phone with 2 terabytes of storage.  When it comes to good
sounding bluetooth speakers, I like my fourth generation echo, and my
bose speaker.  I've also got an anker motion+ that has very good sound
especially with the bass boost button.  Tribit also makes some very
nice speakers as well.  I've got a 30 watt speaker from zoetree that
sounds quite nice as well.  There's a w-king 80 watt speaker I'd love
to try out as well.

On 3/22/22, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang for
> your money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would be
> from the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in
> 2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have the
> iPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I plan
> on transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a great
> sounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storage
> level for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
> On 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and
>> 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall
>> smaller form factor.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Richard Turner 
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: what to choose
>>
>> The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.
>>
>> 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.
>>
>> I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same
>> size
>> either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone
>> 8,
>> and 7.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Johna
>> Gravitt
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: what to choose
>>
>> Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?
>>
>>
>> TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
>>   Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with
>> disabilities, access job openings at:
>> www.benderconsult.com/jobs<http://www.benderconsult.com/jobs> Bender
>> Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
>> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com
>> Phone: (412)-212-6761
>> Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567
>> Web: www.benderconsult.com<http://www.benderconsult.com>
>> https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/
>> https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/
>> https://idisability.benderconsult.com/
>> https://www.wbenc.org/certification/
>> https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/
>> Linkedin logo and link
>> Twitter logo and link
>> Instagram logo and link
>> Facebook logo and link
>> Itunes logo and link to disabilty matters
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Lelia
>> Struve
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what to choose
>>
>> Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your
>> opinion
>> of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on
>> the
>> battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.
>>
>> Lelia
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without
>>> a
>>> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone.
>>> That would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or
>>> 3.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: what to choose
>>>
>>> Hi Alison,
>&

Re: what to choose

[Kelly Pierce]

Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang for
your money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would be
from the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in
2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have the
iPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I plan
on transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a great
sounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storage
level for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.


Kelly




On 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Richard,
>
> Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and
> 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall
> smaller form factor.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Richard Turner 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: what to choose
>
> The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.
>
> 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.
>
> I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same size
> either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone 8,
> and 7.
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna
> Gravitt
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: what to choose
>
> Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?
>
>
> TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
>   Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with
> disabilities, access job openings at:
> www.benderconsult.com/jobs<http://www.benderconsult.com/jobs> Bender
> Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com
> Phone: (412)-212-6761
> Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567
> Web: www.benderconsult.com<http://www.benderconsult.com>
> https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/
> https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/
> https://idisability.benderconsult.com/
> https://www.wbenc.org/certification/
> https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/
> Linkedin logo and link
> Twitter logo and link
> Instagram logo and link
> Facebook logo and link
> Itunes logo and link to disabilty matters
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia
> Struve
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
>
> Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion
> of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the
> battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a
>> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone.
>> That would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or
>> 3.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what to choose
>>
>> Hi Alison,
>>
>> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS.
>>
>> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those
>> models are at the top of the price chain.
>>
>> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home
>> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button
>> is to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022
>> announced last week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting
>> at $429 USD for a new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for
>> each 64GB of additional capacity. This model still has a home button and
>> enough camera capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading,
>> etc.
>>
>> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form
>> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home
>> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them
>> extensively to work as you like.
>>
>> Good luck with your decision.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone with 

Re: what to choose

[Alan Lemly]

Richard,

Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and 2022. 
Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall smaller form 
factor.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: what to choose

The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.

13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.

I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same size 
either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone 8, and 
7.


Richard


My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what to choose

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what to choose

Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion of 
the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the battery 
life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
>
> Hi Alison,
>
> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS.
>
> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
> are at the top of the price chain.
>
> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
> to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
> week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
> new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc.
>
> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
> extensively to work as you like.
>
> Good luck with your decision.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
> 
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> CJ & AA MAY 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:05:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: what to choose
>
>
> My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
>
> Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
> accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
> button.
>
> Alison
>
> --
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Re: what to choose

[Richard Turner]

I have not tested with things like fish packets in a store; but I doubt very 
much Seeing AI or any other scanning app uses the zoom camera; so I suspect the 
results will be the same given decent lighting and clear text.



Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Mar 18, 2022, at 6:32 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> 
> Asking the 13 pro users: using seeing eye scanner app, is this camera for 
> close pictures eg. For example scanning text on a fish packet in a store, do 
> you experience that the 13 pro close up camera is better?
> 
> Take care
> 
> 
> 
>> fre. 18. mar. 2022 kl. 20:53 skrev Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>:
>> Go to 
>> 
>> Speeddots.com
>> 
>> To see about overlays. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of sandrastreeter...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 2:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: what to choose
>> 
>> Also, does anyone know whether AT Guys or someone else will make a dotted 
>> overlay for it? If not, it would be a deal-breaker; if so, the smaller size 
>> appeals to me, due to small hands. Thanks!
>> 
>> Sandra
>> 
>> As new life will come from death
>> Love will come at leisure
>> Love of love, love of life
>> And giving without measure
>> 
>> Gives in return a wondrous yearn
>> For promise almost seen
>> Live hand in hand and together we'll stand On the threshold of a dream 
>> (Graeme Edge, of the Moody Blues)
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
>> Struve
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what to choose
>> 
>> Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion 
>> of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the 
>> battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.
>> 
>> Lelia 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
>> > Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. 
>> > That would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
>> > 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> > Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: what to choose
>> > 
>> > Hi Alison,
>> > 
>> > All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
>> > 
>> > The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those 
>> > models are at the top of the price chain.
>> > 
>> > I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
>> > button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button 
>> > is to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 
>> > announced last week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting 
>> > at $429 USD for a new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for 
>> > each 64GB of additional capacity. This model still has a home button and 
>> > enough camera capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, 
>> > etc. 
>> > 
>> > I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
>> > factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
>> > button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
>> > extensively to work as you like. 
>> > 
>> > Good luck with your decision. 
>> > 
>> > Alan Lemly
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>> > CJ & AA

Re: what to choose

[Richard Turner]

I don't have direct experience with the 13 mini, but if you have the original 
SE, then the battery life will be far better with the 13 mini.



Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Mar 18, 2022, at 10:21 AM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion 
> of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the 
> battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
>> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
>> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what to choose
>> 
>> Hi Alison, 
>> 
>> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
>> 
>> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those 
>> models are at the top of the price chain.
>> 
>> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
>> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button 
>> is to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced 
>> last week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD 
>> for a new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
>> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
>> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 
>> 
>> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
>> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
>> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
>> extensively to work as you like. 
>> 
>> Good luck with your decision. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of CJ & 
>> AA MAY 
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:05:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: what to choose 
>> 
>> 
>> My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
>> 
>> Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
>> accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
>> button.
>> 
>> Alison
>> 
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Re: what to choose

[Terje Strømberg]

Asking the 13 pro users: using seeing eye scanner app, is this camera for
close pictures eg. For example scanning text on a fish packet in a store,
do you experience that the 13 pro close up camera is better?

Take care



fre. 18. mar. 2022 kl. 20:53 skrev Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>:

> Go to
>
> Speeddots.com
>
> To see about overlays.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of sandrastreeter...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 2:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: what to choose
>
> Also, does anyone know whether AT Guys or someone else will make a dotted
> overlay for it? If not, it would be a deal-breaker; if so, the smaller size
> appeals to me, due to small hands. Thanks!
>
> Sandra
>
> As new life will come from death
> Love will come at leisure
> Love of love, love of life
> And giving without measure
>
> Gives in return a wondrous yearn
> For promise almost seen
> Live hand in hand and together we'll stand On the threshold of a dream
> (Graeme Edge, of the Moody Blues)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Lelia Struve
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
>
> Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your
> opinion of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e
> on the battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without
> a Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone.
> That would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: what to choose
> >
> > Hi Alison,
> >
> > All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS.
> >
> > The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those
> models are at the top of the price chain.
> >
> > I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no
> home button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home
> button is to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022
> announced last week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting
> at $429 USD for a new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for
> each 64GB of additional capacity. This model still has a home button and
> enough camera capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading,
> etc.
> >
> > I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form
> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home
> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them
> extensively to work as you like.
> >
> > Good luck with your decision.
> >
> > Alan Lemly
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
> > 
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> > CJ & AA MAY 
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:05:58 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > Subject: what to choose
> >
> >
> > My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
> >
> > Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally
> accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a
> home button.
> >
> > Alison
> >
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Re: what to choose

[Alex Stone]

Alison, that’s no way to treat Chris, now is it lol. By the way, I agree with 
you, get a new phone!

Sent from my iPhone

On 18 Mar 2022, at 9:22 pm, Alison May  wrote:

 Careful, Richard, you are beginning to sound like my husband who would prefer 
me to go for the cheapest option, that being replacing the battery so i am 
deleting your suggestion before he sees it (smile)!


Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

On 18 Mar 2022, at 7:18 pm, Richard Turner  wrote:


If you have the original SE, and it is working fine other than the battery, you 
could get the battery replaced.
However, you will have a much  better experience with a new phone.

If you plan to store music on your phone, consider the 128 GB if that is 
offered.

Otherwise, from your description, the basic 64GB should be enough.


Richard


My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what to choose

Thanks for explaining this, Richard. I think I can live without LIDAR but it 
does sound clever.
The main reason I plan on replacing my 6SE, which is still working well, is 
it’s poor battery life, especially when using apps like Duo Lingo. This may be 
of course because of its age!
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 18 March 2022 18:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: what to choose

LIDAR is a sensor that helps in detailed measurement, but also is being used 
for object detection.  So, with an app like superLidar or Seeing AI with its 
World Channel, you can detect objects and one of them, and I don’t recall which 
one, will tell you if there is a person with a mask or not wearing a mask, tell 
you how far away from you the object is.  Like, a person in a line, etc.
The blindness apps are just beginning to explore uses for it, so it is a 
feature in development.

When I got the SE 2020, also called 2nd edition, I was impressed that it has 
stereo sound, which doesn’t mean much unless you just about put your nose on 
the screen, but it has a much fuller sound than the previous phones.

Whether its battery life is better than the 13 mini, or about the same, I have 
no idea.

But back to LIDAR, that is only on the 12 and 13 pro models anyway.  I love the 
battery life I’m getting on my 13 pro; but I was in a good position to buy the 
phone and I know lots of people couldn’t put out that kind of money.  I bought 
it partly for the LIDAR and frankly, haven’t used it for that.

The sound and the recording quality on the 13 pro is excellent though.

I would not be surprised if the microphones are as good in the SE 2022/3rd gen 
as in the 13 pro.

If you search for iPhone SE 3rd gen specs, you can find out the exact battery 
size and then do a search for the 13 mini specs and compare the two.

HTH,

Richard


My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: what to choose

Thanks Richard. I suspect the SE 2022 is going to meet my needs. What exactly 
is the LIDAR sensor?
I rarely use my iphone as a camera and just want good battery life and a 
reasonable memory and good sound output, although I mostly use earphones with 
my iPhone. I also like the idea of it being smaller.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 18 March 2022 15:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: what to choose

All iPhones are equally accessible.  IN fact, if you were just touching the 
screen while VoiceOver is on, you wouldn’t know which iPhone you had, other 
than if it had a home button or not.

Alan mentioned the SE 3rd generation available today, probably also will be 
known as the SE 2022; has the smaller screen, still has the home button and 
touch ID, and has the same chip as the 13, known as the A15 chip and will 
pretty much do everything the more expensive phones will do other than having 
the extra cameras and the LIDAR sensor.
But, the LIDAR sensor is only on the pro models of the 12 and 13, which are at 
the top of the price range.  Well, to be exact, the pro max phones are at the 
top of the price range and are quite large, then the pro models, which are 
larger than some, but unless you have really small hands, should be quite 
manageable.

You really need to think about what features you want and how much memory.

I’d encourage you to go to the apple.com site and check out the different 
models.
https://www.apple.com/iphone/
 Or, if you can

Re: what to choose

[Alison May]

Careful, Richard, you are beginning to sound like my husband who would prefer 
me to go for the cheapest option, that being replacing the battery so i am 
deleting your suggestion before he sees it (smile)! 


Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 18 Mar 2022, at 7:18 pm, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you have the original SE, and it is working fine other than the battery, 
> you could get the battery replaced.
> However, you will have a much  better experience with a new phone.
>  
> If you plan to store music on your phone, consider the 128 GB if that is 
> offered.
>  
> Otherwise, from your description, the basic 64GB should be enough.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
> AA MAY
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: what to choose
>  
> Thanks for explaining this, Richard. I think I can live without LIDAR but it 
> does sound clever.
> The main reason I plan on replacing my 6SE, which is still working well, is 
> it’s poor battery life, especially when using apps like Duo Lingo. This may 
> be of course because of its age!
> Alison
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 18 March 2022 18:40
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: what to choose
>  
> LIDAR is a sensor that helps in detailed measurement, but also is being used 
> for object detection.  So, with an app like superLidar or Seeing AI with its 
> World Channel, you can detect objects and one of them, and I don’t recall 
> which one, will tell you if there is a person with a mask or not wearing a 
> mask, tell you how far away from you the object is.  Like, a person in a 
> line, etc.
> The blindness apps are just beginning to explore uses for it, so it is a 
> feature in development.
>  
> When I got the SE 2020, also called 2nd edition, I was impressed that it has 
> stereo sound, which doesn’t mean much unless you just about put your nose on 
> the screen, but it has a much fuller sound than the previous phones.
>  
> Whether its battery life is better than the 13 mini, or about the same, I 
> have no idea.
>  
> But back to LIDAR, that is only on the 12 and 13 pro models anyway.  I love 
> the battery life I’m getting on my 13 pro; but I was in a good position to 
> buy the phone and I know lots of people couldn’t put out that kind of money.  
> I bought it partly for the LIDAR and frankly, haven’t used it for that.
>  
> The sound and the recording quality on the 13 pro is excellent though.
>  
> I would not be surprised if the microphones are as good in the SE 2022/3rd 
> gen as in the 13 pro.
>  
> If you search for iPhone SE 3rd gen specs, you can find out the exact battery 
> size and then do a search for the 13 mini specs and compare the two.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
> AA MAY
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: what to choose
>  
> Thanks Richard. I suspect the SE 2022 is going to meet my needs. What exactly 
> is the LIDAR sensor?
> I rarely use my iphone as a camera and just want good battery life and a 
> reasonable memory and good sound output, although I mostly use earphones with 
> my iPhone. I also like the idea of it being smaller.
> Alison
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 18 March 2022 15:16
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: what to choose
>  
> All iPhones are equally accessible.  IN fact, if you were just touching the 
> screen while VoiceOver is on, you wouldn’t know which iPhone you had, other 
> than if it had a home button or not.
>  
> Alan mentioned the SE 3rd generation available today, probably also will be 
> known as the SE 2022; has the smaller screen, still has the home button and 
> touch ID, and has the same chip as the 13, known as the A15 chip and will 
> pretty much do everything the more expensive phones will do other than having 
> the extra cameras and the LIDAR sensor.
> But, the LIDAR sensor is only on the pro models of the 12 and 13, which are 
> at the top of the price range.  Well, to be exact, the pro max phones are at 
> the top of the price range and are quite large, then the pro models, which 
> are larger than some, but unless you have really small hands, should be quite 
> manageable.
>  
> You really need to think about what features you want and how much memory.
>  
> I’d encourage you to go to the apple.com site and check out 

RE: what to choose

[Carolyn]

Go to 

Speeddots.com

To see about overlays. 

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sandrastreeter...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what to choose

Also, does anyone know whether AT Guys or someone else will make a dotted 
overlay for it? If not, it would be a deal-breaker; if so, the smaller size 
appeals to me, due to small hands. Thanks!

Sandra

As new life will come from death
Love will come at leisure
Love of love, love of life
And giving without measure

Gives in return a wondrous yearn
For promise almost seen
Live hand in hand and together we'll stand On the threshold of a dream (Graeme 
Edge, of the Moody Blues)

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what to choose

Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion of 
the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the battery 
life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
> 
> Hi Alison,
> 
> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
> 
> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
> are at the top of the price chain.
> 
> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
> to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
> week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
> new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 
> 
> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
> extensively to work as you like. 
> 
> Good luck with your decision. 
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> CJ & AA MAY 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:05:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: what to choose
> 
> 
> My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
> 
> Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
> accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
> button.
> 
> Alison
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RE: what to choose

[Richard Turner]

If you have the original SE, and it is working fine other than the battery, you 
could get the battery replaced.

However, you will have a much  better experience with a new phone.

 

If you plan to store music on your phone, consider the 128 GB if that is 
offered.

 

Otherwise, from your description, the basic 64GB should be enough.

 

 

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

Thanks for explaining this, Richard. I think I can live without LIDAR but it 
does sound clever. 

The main reason I plan on replacing my 6SE, which is still working well, is 
it’s poor battery life, especially when using apps like Duo Lingo. This may be 
of course because of its age!

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 18 March 2022 18:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

LIDAR is a sensor that helps in detailed measurement, but also is being used 
for object detection.  So, with an app like superLidar or Seeing AI with its 
World Channel, you can detect objects and one of them, and I don’t recall which 
one, will tell you if there is a person with a mask or not wearing a mask, tell 
you how far away from you the object is.  Like, a person in a line, etc.

The blindness apps are just beginning to explore uses for it, so it is a 
feature in development.

 

When I got the SE 2020, also called 2nd edition, I was impressed that it has 
stereo sound, which doesn’t mean much unless you just about put your nose on 
the screen, but it has a much fuller sound than the previous phones.

 

Whether its battery life is better than the 13 mini, or about the same, I have 
no idea.

 

But back to LIDAR, that is only on the 12 and 13 pro models anyway.  I love the 
battery life I’m getting on my 13 pro; but I was in a good position to buy the 
phone and I know lots of people couldn’t put out that kind of money.  I bought 
it partly for the LIDAR and frankly, haven’t used it for that.

 

The sound and the recording quality on the 13 pro is excellent though.

 

I would not be surprised if the microphones are as good in the SE 2022/3rd gen 
as in the 13 pro.

 

If you search for iPhone SE 3rd gen specs, you can find out the exact battery 
size and then do a search for the 13 mini specs and compare the two.

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

Thanks Richard. I suspect the SE 2022 is going to meet my needs. What exactly 
is the LIDAR sensor?

I rarely use my iphone as a camera and just want good battery life and a 
reasonable memory and good sound output, although I mostly use earphones with 
my iPhone. I also like the idea of it being smaller.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 18 March 2022 15:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

All iPhones are equally accessible.  IN fact, if you were just touching the 
screen while VoiceOver is on, you wouldn’t know which iPhone you had, other 
than if it had a home button or not.

 

Alan mentioned the SE 3rd generation available today, probably also will be 
known as the SE 2022; has the smaller screen, still has the home button and 
touch ID, and has the same chip as the 13, known as the A15 chip and will 
pretty much do everything the more expensive phones will do other than having 
the extra cameras and the LIDAR sensor.

But, the LIDAR sensor is only on the pro models of the 12 and 13, which are at 
the top of the price range.  Well, to be exact, the pro max phones are at the 
top of the price range and are quite large, then the pro models, which are 
larger than some, but unless you have really small hands, should be quite 
manageable.

 

You really need to think about what features you want and how much memory.

 

I’d encourage you to go to the apple.com site and check out the different 
models.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/

 Or, if you can, go in to an Apple store and get some hands on; but if you do 
that, make an appointment first.

 

Hth,

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mai

RE: what to choose

[CJ & AA MAY]

Thanks for explaining this, Richard. I think I can live without LIDAR but it 
does sound clever. 

The main reason I plan on replacing my 6SE, which is still working well, is 
it’s poor battery life, especially when using apps like Duo Lingo. This may be 
of course because of its age!

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 18 March 2022 18:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

LIDAR is a sensor that helps in detailed measurement, but also is being used 
for object detection.  So, with an app like superLidar or Seeing AI with its 
World Channel, you can detect objects and one of them, and I don’t recall which 
one, will tell you if there is a person with a mask or not wearing a mask, tell 
you how far away from you the object is.  Like, a person in a line, etc.

The blindness apps are just beginning to explore uses for it, so it is a 
feature in development.

 

When I got the SE 2020, also called 2nd edition, I was impressed that it has 
stereo sound, which doesn’t mean much unless you just about put your nose on 
the screen, but it has a much fuller sound than the previous phones.

 

Whether its battery life is better than the 13 mini, or about the same, I have 
no idea.

 

But back to LIDAR, that is only on the 12 and 13 pro models anyway.  I love the 
battery life I’m getting on my 13 pro; but I was in a good position to buy the 
phone and I know lots of people couldn’t put out that kind of money.  I bought 
it partly for the LIDAR and frankly, haven’t used it for that.

 

The sound and the recording quality on the 13 pro is excellent though.

 

I would not be surprised if the microphones are as good in the SE 2022/3rd gen 
as in the 13 pro.

 

If you search for iPhone SE 3rd gen specs, you can find out the exact battery 
size and then do a search for the 13 mini specs and compare the two.

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

Thanks Richard. I suspect the SE 2022 is going to meet my needs. What exactly 
is the LIDAR sensor?

I rarely use my iphone as a camera and just want good battery life and a 
reasonable memory and good sound output, although I mostly use earphones with 
my iPhone. I also like the idea of it being smaller.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 18 March 2022 15:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

All iPhones are equally accessible.  IN fact, if you were just touching the 
screen while VoiceOver is on, you wouldn’t know which iPhone you had, other 
than if it had a home button or not.

 

Alan mentioned the SE 3rd generation available today, probably also will be 
known as the SE 2022; has the smaller screen, still has the home button and 
touch ID, and has the same chip as the 13, known as the A15 chip and will 
pretty much do everything the more expensive phones will do other than having 
the extra cameras and the LIDAR sensor.

But, the LIDAR sensor is only on the pro models of the 12 and 13, which are at 
the top of the price range.  Well, to be exact, the pro max phones are at the 
top of the price range and are quite large, then the pro models, which are 
larger than some, but unless you have really small hands, should be quite 
manageable.

 

You really need to think about what features you want and how much memory.

 

I’d encourage you to go to the apple.com site and check out the different 
models.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/

 Or, if you can, go in to an Apple store and get some hands on; but if you do 
that, make an appointment first.

 

Hth,

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: what to choose

 

My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.

Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
button.

Alison

 

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RE: what to choose

[Richard Turner]

LIDAR is a sensor that helps in detailed measurement, but also is being used 
for object detection.  So, with an app like superLidar or Seeing AI with its 
World Channel, you can detect objects and one of them, and I don’t recall which 
one, will tell you if there is a person with a mask or not wearing a mask, tell 
you how far away from you the object is.  Like, a person in a line, etc.

The blindness apps are just beginning to explore uses for it, so it is a 
feature in development.

 

When I got the SE 2020, also called 2nd edition, I was impressed that it has 
stereo sound, which doesn’t mean much unless you just about put your nose on 
the screen, but it has a much fuller sound than the previous phones.

 

Whether its battery life is better than the 13 mini, or about the same, I have 
no idea.

 

But back to LIDAR, that is only on the 12 and 13 pro models anyway.  I love the 
battery life I’m getting on my 13 pro; but I was in a good position to buy the 
phone and I know lots of people couldn’t put out that kind of money.  I bought 
it partly for the LIDAR and frankly, haven’t used it for that.

 

The sound and the recording quality on the 13 pro is excellent though.

 

I would not be surprised if the microphones are as good in the SE 2022/3rd gen 
as in the 13 pro.

 

If you search for iPhone SE 3rd gen specs, you can find out the exact battery 
size and then do a search for the 13 mini specs and compare the two.

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

Thanks Richard. I suspect the SE 2022 is going to meet my needs. What exactly 
is the LIDAR sensor?

I rarely use my iphone as a camera and just want good battery life and a 
reasonable memory and good sound output, although I mostly use earphones with 
my iPhone. I also like the idea of it being smaller.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 18 March 2022 15:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: what to choose

 

All iPhones are equally accessible.  IN fact, if you were just touching the 
screen while VoiceOver is on, you wouldn’t know which iPhone you had, other 
than if it had a home button or not.

 

Alan mentioned the SE 3rd generation available today, probably also will be 
known as the SE 2022; has the smaller screen, still has the home button and 
touch ID, and has the same chip as the 13, known as the A15 chip and will 
pretty much do everything the more expensive phones will do other than having 
the extra cameras and the LIDAR sensor.

But, the LIDAR sensor is only on the pro models of the 12 and 13, which are at 
the top of the price range.  Well, to be exact, the pro max phones are at the 
top of the price range and are quite large, then the pro models, which are 
larger than some, but unless you have really small hands, should be quite 
manageable.

 

You really need to think about what features you want and how much memory.

 

I’d encourage you to go to the apple.com site and check out the different 
models.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/

 Or, if you can, go in to an Apple store and get some hands on; but if you do 
that, make an appointment first.

 

Hth,

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: what to choose

 

My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.

Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
button.

Alison

 

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RE: what to choose

[CJ & AA MAY]

Thanks Richard. I suspect the SE 2022 is going to meet my needs. What exactly 
is the LIDAR sensor?

I rarely use my iphone as a camera and just want good battery life and a 
reasonable memory and good sound output, although I mostly use earphones with 
my iPhone. I also like the idea of it being smaller.

Alison

 

 

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Turner
Sent: 18 March 2022 15:16
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Subject: RE: what to choose

 

All iPhones are equally accessible.  IN fact, if you were just touching the 
screen while VoiceOver is on, you wouldn’t know which iPhone you had, other 
than if it had a home button or not.

 

Alan mentioned the SE 3rd generation available today, probably also will be 
known as the SE 2022; has the smaller screen, still has the home button and 
touch ID, and has the same chip as the 13, known as the A15 chip and will 
pretty much do everything the more expensive phones will do other than having 
the extra cameras and the LIDAR sensor.

But, the LIDAR sensor is only on the pro models of the 12 and 13, which are at 
the top of the price range.  Well, to be exact, the pro max phones are at the 
top of the price range and are quite large, then the pro models, which are 
larger than some, but unless you have really small hands, should be quite 
manageable.

 

You really need to think about what features you want and how much memory.

 

I’d encourage you to go to the apple.com site and check out the different 
models.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/

 Or, if you can, go in to an Apple store and get some hands on; but if you do 
that, make an appointment first.

 

Hth,

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: what to choose

 

My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.

Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
button.

Alison

 

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RE: what to choose

[CJ & AA MAY]

My current phone has 64 gb. And seems sufficienty for my needs. Of course, I 
know I would in time learn to use a phone without a home button but the SE 2022 
does sound more like what I am looking for and why put myself through an 
unnecessary learning curve?

Thanks to everyone for their comments. It is helping me make my mind up.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: 18 March 2022 14:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what to choose

 

Hi Alison, 

 

All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 

 

The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
are at the top of the price chain.

 

 I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of additional 
capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera capability to 
handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 

 

I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form factor 
but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home button. The 
nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them extensively to work as 
you like. 

 

Good luck with your decision. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS

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My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.

Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
button.

Alison

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RE: what to choose

[sandrastreeter381]

Given what you just said about the SE being similar in size to the 8, which I 
currently have, though, it may become a moot issue. For the sake of advocacy, 
though, even if not for myself, I may just contact them--thanks!


Sandra

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Love will come at leisure
Love of love, love of life
And giving without measure

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what to choose

I'd reach out to ATGuys and ask them if that is in the works.



Richard


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Subject: RE: what to choose

Also, does anyone know whether AT Guys or someone else will make a dotted 
overlay for it? If not, it would be a deal-breaker; if so, the smaller size 
appeals to me, due to small hands. Thanks!

Sandra

As new life will come from death
Love will come at leisure
Love of love, love of life
And giving without measure

Gives in return a wondrous yearn
For promise almost seen
Live hand in hand and together we'll stand On the threshold of a dream (Graeme 
Edge, of the Moody Blues)

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what to choose

Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion of 
the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the battery 
life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
> 
> Hi Alison,
> 
> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
> 
> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
> are at the top of the price chain.
> 
> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
> to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
> week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
> new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 
> 
> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
> extensively to work as you like. 
> 
> Good luck with your decision. 
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> CJ & AA MAY 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:05:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: what to choose
> 
> 
> My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
> 
> Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
> accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
> button.
> 
> Alison
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I'd reach out to ATGuys and ask them if that is in the works.



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Subject: RE: what to choose

Also, does anyone know whether AT Guys or someone else will make a dotted 
overlay for it? If not, it would be a deal-breaker; if so, the smaller size 
appeals to me, due to small hands. Thanks!

Sandra

As new life will come from death
Love will come at leisure
Love of love, love of life
And giving without measure

Gives in return a wondrous yearn
For promise almost seen
Live hand in hand and together we'll stand On the threshold of a dream (Graeme 
Edge, of the Moody Blues)

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what to choose

Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion of 
the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the battery 
life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
> 
> Hi Alison,
> 
> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
> 
> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
> are at the top of the price chain.
> 
> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
> to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
> week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
> new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 
> 
> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
> extensively to work as you like. 
> 
> Good luck with your decision. 
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> CJ & AA MAY 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:05:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: what to choose
> 
> 
> My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
> 
> Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
> accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
> button.
> 
> Alison
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[Richard Turner]

The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.

13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.

I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same size 
either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone 8, and 
7.


Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what to choose

Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?


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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what to choose

Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion of 
the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the battery 
life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
> 
> Hi Alison,
> 
> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
> 
> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
> are at the top of the price chain.
> 
> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
> to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
> week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
> new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 
> 
> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
> extensively to work as you like. 
> 
> Good luck with your decision. 
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> CJ & AA MAY 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:05:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: what to choose
> 
> 
> My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
> 
> Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
> accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
> button.
> 
> Alison
> 
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Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what to choose

Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion of 
the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the battery 
life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
> 
> Hi Alison, 
> 
> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
> 
> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
> are at the top of the price chain.
> 
> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
> to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
> week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
> new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 
> 
> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
> extensively to work as you like. 
> 
> Good luck with your decision. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of CJ & 
> AA MAY 
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 5:05:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: what to choose 
> 
> 
> My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
> 
> Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
> accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
> button.
> 
> Alison
> 
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[sandrastreeter381]

Also, does anyone know whether AT Guys or someone else will make a dotted 
overlay for it? If not, it would be a deal-breaker; if so, the smaller size 
appeals to me, due to small hands. Thanks!

Sandra

As new life will come from death
Love will come at leisure
Love of love, love of life
And giving without measure

Gives in return a wondrous yearn
For promise almost seen
Live hand in hand and together we'll stand
On the threshold of a dream
(Graeme Edge, of the Moody Blues)

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what to choose

Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion of 
the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the battery 
life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
> 
> Hi Alison, 
> 
> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
> 
> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
> are at the top of the price chain.
> 
> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
> to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
> week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
> new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 
> 
> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
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Re: what to choose

[Lelia Struve]

Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion of 
the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the battery 
life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.

Lelia 

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> 
> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a 
> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That 
> would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
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> Subject: Re: what to choose
> 
> Hi Alison, 
> 
> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 
> 
> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
> are at the top of the price chain.
> 
> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
> to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
> week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
> new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of 
> additional capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera 
> capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 
> 
> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form 
> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home 
> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them 
> extensively to work as you like. 
> 
> Good luck with your decision. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
> 
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> My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.
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> Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
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> button.
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RE: what to choose

[Carolyn]

I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a Home 
Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone. That would 
be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or 3. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
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Hi Alison, 

All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS. 

The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
are at the top of the price chain.

 I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of additional 
capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera capability to 
handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc. 

I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form factor 
but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home button. The 
nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them extensively to work as 
you like. 

Good luck with your decision. 

Alan Lemly 


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accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
button.

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RE: what to choose

[Richard Turner]

All iPhones are equally accessible.  IN fact, if you were just touching the 
screen while VoiceOver is on, you wouldn’t know which iPhone you had, other 
than if it had a home button or not.

 

Alan mentioned the SE 3rd generation available today, probably also will be 
known as the SE 2022; has the smaller screen, still has the home button and 
touch ID, and has the same chip as the 13, known as the A15 chip and will 
pretty much do everything the more expensive phones will do other than having 
the extra cameras and the LIDAR sensor.

But, the LIDAR sensor is only on the pro models of the 12 and 13, which are at 
the top of the price range.  Well, to be exact, the pro max phones are at the 
top of the price range and are quite large, then the pro models, which are 
larger than some, but unless you have really small hands, should be quite 
manageable.

 

You really need to think about what features you want and how much memory.

 

I’d encourage you to go to the apple.com site and check out the different 
models.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/

 Or, if you can, go in to an Apple store and get some hands on; but if you do 
that, make an appointment first.

 

Hth,

Richard

 

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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My current iPhone 6 SE is ready for updating, which I plan to do soon.

Are there any of the newer models I should avoid or are they all equally 
accessible? I realise I am going to have to learn how to cope without a home 
button.

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Re: what to choose

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Alison,

All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS.

The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those models 
are at the top of the price chain.

 I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home 
button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button is 
to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022 announced last 
week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting at $429 USD for a 
new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for each 64GB of additional 
capacity. This model still has a home button and enough camera capability to 
handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading, etc.

I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form factor 
but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home button. The 
nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them extensively to work as 
you like.

Good luck with your decision.

Alan Lemly

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Re: what to choose

[Joshua Hendrickson]

It all depends on what kind of iPhone you are looking for.  What
things are important to you?  For me, my next iPhone will have the
most storage space possible and I'm also going to be looking at
battery life.  Maybe, you still want a phone with the home button.
So, the new SE22 phone will be a good choice for you.  Good luck.

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