RE: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

2024-02-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Richard, I have Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices on my laptop and 
recently tried Waltr Pro and in fact I did subscribe for a month just so I 
could quickly get all my dozens of tones back on my phone after setting it up 
as a new device and it all worked fine. After I installed Waltr Pro I was 
prompted to install the Apple Mobile Device driver or drivers and I allowed 
this. I think maybe one thing which may be the issue is the fact you have 
iTunes on your computer as well as you installed Apple Music, I don't think 
those two can live together without a fight even though they are both Apple 
programs. I even seem to remember that when I installed Apple Music I was 
warned that if I wanted to use iTunes I had to uninstalle Apple Music again 
first.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy



I know WALTRPro has been discussed lately, and I’ve used it since it was in 
beta.
Now, I get a crash report whenever I launch it.
I’m guessing, and it is only a guess, that it may have something to do with the 
fact that iTunes now is not accessing my library; Apple Music is.

I may take a shot at uninstalling Apple Music and see what happens… but not 
immediately.  I sent in the crash report to WALTRPro, so we shall see if they 
respond in any way.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
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RE: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

2024-02-13 Thread Richard Turner
It is a program that allows you to put things like music, zip files, whatever 
you want on your Apple device with less hassle than iTunes, though iTunes needs 
to be installed.

So, I am just guessing here that since iTunes doesn’t see the library the same 
way, neither does WALTRPro.  I got a lifetime subscription when the app was in 
beta.  A year or so later, they turned it into a subscription to gain access to 
all their software, though I think they offer a one time subscription for life 
for something like $300 which frankly isn’t worth it in my opinion.  I 
personally don’t think the subscription is worth it, though someone on this or 
the BlindApples list has it through the subscription and finds it useful.

 

I mostly use it for zip files of audio books to get them into Voice Dream.  I 
can just go back to using Dropbox for that.  Though it is a bit slower.

 

That was more than you wanted to know, I’m sure, .

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Timothy 
Emmons
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

 

Richard, what is WALTER Pro. Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 13, 2024, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



 

 

I know WALTRPro has been discussed lately, and I’ve used it since it was in 
beta.

Now, I get a crash report whenever I launch it.

I’m guessing, and it is only a guess, that it may have something to do with the 
fact that iTunes now is not accessing my library; Apple Music is.

 

I may take a shot at uninstalling Apple Music and see what happens… but not 
immediately.  I sent in the crash report to WALTRPro, so we shall see if they 
respond in any way.

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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Re: Apple Music for Windows and WALTRPro, no joy

2024-02-13 Thread Timothy Emmons
Richard, what is WALTER Pro. Just curious.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2024, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:  I know WALTRPro has been discussed lately, and I’ve used it since it was in beta.Now, I get a crash report whenever I launch it.I’m guessing, and it is only a guess, that it may have something to do with the fact that iTunes now is not accessing my library; Apple Music is. I may take a shot at uninstalling Apple Music and see what happens… but not immediately.  I sent in the crash report to WALTRPro, so we shall see if they respond in any way.  Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  



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RE: Apple Music for Windows user guide from Apple

2024-02-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Richard,

The magic word is “touch cursor”. Here is Jaws speech history from where I 
press Control + Comma (of course that is the punctuation symbol not the word, I 
tab to “Files” expand the “Media folder location“ and then switche to the touch 
cursor which allows me to hear my library’s location. As for the other 
categories or tabs, only the first one, General, automatically speaks the 
explanation, for the other ones you can also switch to the touch cursor and 
arrow left twice to hear the explanation, then I switch back to the PC cursor 
and tab on to the next one and repeat. Here it goes::

I press Control + Comma:
Settings, General, Library name, choose how to show lists, and more  Button 
(Jaws is automatically focused on that. I press tab:
Playback Button, I switch to touch cursor and arrow right twice: touch, How to 
fade songs in and out, change music sound quality during playback, and more. I 
switch back to PC and tab again
Restrictions Button, touch, Turn content & privacy restrictions on or off, 
Double tap to activate the PC cursor, PC
Files Button, touch, Organize your Media folder, Double tap to activate the PC 
cursor, PC
Advanced Button, touch, Automatically download album artwork, control 
MiniPlayer and video playback windows, and more, Double tap to activate the PC 
cursor, PC
Help Link

Now back to Files which I activate by pressing enter:
Files Settings, Media folder location, Media folder location collapsed
I press spacebar to expand this, then I switch to the touch cursor and arrow 
right:
Touch, Media folder location, Select the Media folder location, where songs and 
other files you import are located
C:\Users\siegh\OneDrive\Music\Apple Music\Media
I press tab and get the "Change button" which would let me change the location
You could also tab once first to the "Change" button, then turn on the touch 
cursor and arrow left once to hear the media folder location.
Tab again and you get "Reset button"
Tab again and you get "Keep Media folder organized, not checked", you can 
switch to touch here and arrow to read:
Places files into album and artist folders, and names the files based on the 
disc number, track number, and song title
Finally a last tab gets you to a "Back button" which takes you out of the Files 
category/tab and back into the main settings tab.

All Apple has to do is add the ability to copy/sync Tones through the Apple 
Devices app and come out with an app for Podcasts and Books and iTunes can go 
Bye-bye.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music for Windows user guide from Apple

For anyone who downloads Apple Music for Windows, here is a link to the user 
guide.
So far, the only accessibility issue I have come across in the settings is on 
Settings, File, there is a box with the location of your library.  No screen 
reader will read the path.  So I thought it might be blank.  Fortunately, my 
sighted wife was around so I asked her to check.  Sure enough, my default 
library location was there, so I didn’t need to change it, or risk messing it 
up…

https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/syncing-overview-mchl923c1147/1.4/windows/10

HTH,
Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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Re: apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I wish I could open music settings. Everytime i try it kicks me back to the 
home screen.
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  Good morning:

   

  I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to 
library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, 
songs, and skips artists. 

   

  Any suggestions? 


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Re: apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread Mary Otten
You need to link your Apple Music account to your Ayy Ladies. That’s done through the app on your phone. I can’t remember the exact steps, but I’m sure if you Google it, you will find it. Once you have it linked, when you ask to play something, you don’t have to specify Apple Music, because you will have set that as your preferred music stores.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Lelia Struve  wrote:Good morning, this actually goes along with the subject. I have an Alexa, and I am wondering what I need to say to her to have her play the music in my Apple library. Thanks for any help.Lelia Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2023, at 8:28 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:There should be an edit button in the top right. Double tap that. You can serct and deselect as well as rearrange those categories. It could be Artists was accidently unselected.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 17, 2023, at 7:15 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:Please disregard, I figured it out.  From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 09:53 AMTo: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: apple music question Good morning: I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and skips artists.  Any suggestions? 



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Re: apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread Lelia Struve
Good morning, this actually goes along with the subject. I have an Alexa, and I am wondering what I need to say to her to have her play the music in my Apple library. Thanks for any help.Lelia Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2023, at 8:28 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:There should be an edit button in the top right. Double tap that. You can serct and deselect as well as rearrange those categories. It could be Artists was accidently unselected.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 17, 2023, at 7:15 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:Please disregard, I figured it out.  From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 09:53 AMTo: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: apple music question Good morning: I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and skips artists.  Any suggestions? 



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Re: apple music question

2023-06-17 Thread Richard Turner
There should be an edit button in the top right. Double tap that. You can serct and deselect as well as rearrange those categories. It could be Artists was accidently unselected.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 17, 2023, at 7:15 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:Please disregard, I figured it out.  From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 09:53 AMTo: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: apple music question Good morning: I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and skips artists.  Any suggestions? 



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RE: apple music?

2023-05-29 Thread Peter Logan
You should be able to go into the app store .. and under subscriptions cancel 
the trial ..


-Original Message-
From: 'Dave Mitchel' via VIPhone  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple music?

I asked my new SE 2022 yesterday to open Radio northwest for me and instead 
Ciri opened apple music and played some goofy song I did not want. then I was 
informed that she had signed me up for the 7 day free trial with apple music. I 
do not want apple music, so how do I get away from that supposed free trial of 
it?

thanks for any assistance in advance,

Dave

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RE: apple music?

2023-05-29 Thread Richard Turner
Open Settings on your iPhone.
At the top, or very near the top, double tap on your name, which is your Apple 
account.
Flick right to subscriptions.
IN there you can cancel any and all subscriptionts.
Note, usually when you cancel a trial, you can still access it for the duration 
of the trial period that is left.

HTH,



Richard, USA.
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: 'Dave Mitchel' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple music?

I asked my new SE 2022 yesterday to open Radio northwest for me and instead 
Ciri opened apple music and played some goofy song I did not want. then I was 
informed that she had signed me up for the 7 day free trial with apple music. I 
do not want apple music, so how do I get away from that supposed free trial of 
it?

thanks for any assistance in advance,

Dave

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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-04 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,

I wasn't indicating it was right or wrong I was merely asking to gain a 
better understanding in case I'd missed something.


In my former set up with a pair of speakers oriented as you described I 
never had any issues with both speakers being connected with the voice 
assistant. It actually did remarkably well responding from the speaker 
to which I was closest or happened to be facing towards.



One can't learn if one doesn't ask.

As for the Hey sonos assistant I had gotten it to start radio stations 
in the past on a Sonos roam hence my surprise when it suddenly seemed 
less able to execute such functionality.


I hope that clarifies.

Robin


On 4/4/2023 12:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I never read anything from Sonos as to what their goal for the Sonos 
voice assistant is, but as far as I am concerned it does a very good 
job with actual Sonos functionality like grouping and ungrouping 
speakers, changing volume and so on and that is fine.


As for picking a speaker in a stereo set I think that is fine and when 
I recently did a new setup of a pair of Sonos One speakers which I 
moved from one room to another, I was also asked to pick a speaker for 
the voice assistant as well as for Alexa. I think it might really be a 
better way to go as it might be confusing if both microphones listen 
and if the speakers are only 6 or 8 feet apart which is pretty 
standard for a stereo pair then it is entirely enough if one speaker 
listens.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 3:06 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued 
so will investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice 
assistant is woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive 
to requests in that regard.


I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding 
voice assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which 
speaker you want to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out 
after searching and reading documentation is if you run the setup 
wizard as it were a second time and pick a second speaker in a pair 
does it merely move the assistant from the first to the second speaker 
or can you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos Ones?


I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if 
anyone figures this out I'd love to know.


I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not 
Apple Classical is on there.


Take good care,

Robin

On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far
that it does not seem to work very well for asking it to play a
certain song, artist or album. The only think I really use it for
is to group or ungroup speakers because that works beautifully and
also changing volume and play/pause or skip/rewind is fine.

As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work
better. I have Apple Music set up as my default music service in
the Alexa app so that seems to be a better option when it come sto
requesting specific music.

*From:* 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been
spoiled by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And
of course the voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV
but I know someone who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout
her home and she is very happy with the results.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
 wrote:



Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music
Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least
for now.

Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that
an Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in
the works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until
it will be available natively from Sonos.

Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple
Music Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a
Sonos surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from 
your Apple TV.

I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though
spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing
it from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a
big difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore I would
imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical
if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the
Sonos app.

*From:* viphone@googlegrou

RE: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I never read anything from Sonos as to what their goal for the Sonos voice 
assistant is, but as far as I am concerned it does a very good job with actual 
Sonos functionality like grouping and ungrouping speakers, changing volume and 
so on and that is fine.
As for picking a speaker in a stereo set I think that is fine and when I 
recently did a new setup of a pair of Sonos One speakers which I moved from one 
room to another, I was also asked to pick a speaker for the voice assistant as 
well as for Alexa. I think it might really be a better way to go as it might be 
confusing if both microphones listen and if the speakers are only 6 or 8 feet 
apart which is pretty standard for a stereo pair then it is entirely enough if 
one speaker listens.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical


Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued so will 
investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice assistant is 
woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive to requests in that 
regard.

I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding voice 
assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which speaker you want 
to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out after searching and reading 
documentation is if you run the setup wizard as it were a second time and pick 
a second speaker in a pair does it merely move the assistant from the first to 
the second speaker or can you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos 
Ones?

I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if anyone 
figures this out I'd love to know.

I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not Apple 
Classical is on there.

Take good care,

Robin


On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far that it does 
not seem to work very well for asking it to play a certain song, artist or 
album. The only think I really use it for is to group or ungroup speakers 
because that works beautifully and also changing volume and play/pause or 
skip/rewind is fine.
As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work better. I have 
Apple Music set up as my default music service in the Alexa app so that seems 
to be a better option when it come sto requesting specific music.

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled by the 
air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the voice control 
on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone who does use the AppleTV 
and Sonos throughout her home and she is very happy with the results.



On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos 
as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android 
version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure 
it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for 
the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then 
play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial 
music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest 
version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio 
quality. Therefore I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music 
Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos 
app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it 
throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should 
be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com<mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjo

Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued so 
will investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice 
assistant is woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive to 
requests in that regard.


I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding 
voice assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which 
speaker you want to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out 
after searching and reading documentation is if you run the setup wizard 
as it were a second time and pick a second speaker in a pair does it 
merely move the assistant from the first to the second speaker or can 
you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos Ones?


I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if anyone 
figures this out I'd love to know.


I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not 
Apple Classical is on there.


Take good care,

Robin


On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far that 
it does not seem to work very well for asking it to play a certain 
song, artist or album. The only think I really use it for is to group 
or ungroup speakers because that works beautifully and also changing 
volume and play/pause or skip/rewind is fine.


As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work 
better. I have Apple Music set up as my default music service in the 
Alexa app so that seems to be a better option when it come sto 
requesting specific music.


*From:* 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled 
by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the 
voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone 
who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout her home and she is very 
happy with the results.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
wrote:



Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music
Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for
now.

Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an
Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the
works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until it will
be available natively from Sonos.

Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music
Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos
surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.

I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though
spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it
from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big
difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore I would imagine
that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical if it were
available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos app.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *Tai Tomasi
*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to
play it throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best
workaround and you should be able to ask Sonos directly to play
from the app.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical
errors.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
 wrote:

I am happy with the new classical music app for the most
part. It is very accessible and searching is easy. The quality
is high as you would expect with classical music for maximum
enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, genre, or even
instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the
weekend.

There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off
the Apple. And I’m hoping they eventually correct this. I did
call both Apple and Sonos and speak to them in this regard.

First, the app is not currently a supported service of the
Sonos system. While Apple music is easily accessed all over my
residence, the Apple Classical music App needs a workaround to
be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.

Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad
free to anyone who subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no
plans to put this app in the Mac App Store.

I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I
do several iPad apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is
a Rogue Amoeba app and works very well with Sonos. However, so

RE: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far that it does 
not seem to work very well for asking it to play a certain song, artist or 
album. The only think I really use it for is to group or ungroup speakers 
because that works beautifully and also changing volume and play/pause or 
skip/rewind is fine.
As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work better. I have 
Apple Music set up as my default music service in the Alexa app so that seems 
to be a better option when it come sto requesting specific music.

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled by the 
air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the voice control 
on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone who does use the AppleTV 
and Sonos throughout her home and she is very happy with the results.


On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos 
as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android 
version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure 
it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for 
the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then 
play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial 
music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest 
version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio 
quality. Therefore I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music 
Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos 
app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it 
throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should 
be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com<mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, 
genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the 
weekend.
There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m 
hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak 
to them in this regard.
First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While 
Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music 
App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.
Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who 
subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App 
Store.
I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad 
apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very 
well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple 
Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that 
with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love 
the app.
Merv




On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say 
about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a 
few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is 
when it comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated 
with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive 
regarding the new app.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout her home and she is very happy with the results.On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore
 I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos app.

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical


 
Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.







On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  wrote:




I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, genre, or
 even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the weekend. 

There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak to them in this regard.


First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.


Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App Store.


I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple Classical
 App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love the app.


Merv


 






On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 


Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is when it
 comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive regarding the new app.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 


 

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RE: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos 
as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android 
version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure 
it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for 
the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then 
play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial 
music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest 
version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio 
quality. Therefore I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music 
Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos 
app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it 
throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should 
be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.


On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, 
genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the 
weekend.
There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m 
hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak 
to them in this regard.
First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While 
Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music 
App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.
Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who 
subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App 
Store.
I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad 
apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very 
well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple 
Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that 
with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love 
the app.
Merv



On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say 
about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a 
few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is 
when it comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated 
with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive 
regarding the new app.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Tai Tomasi
Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  wrote:I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the weekend. There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak to them in this regard.First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App Store.I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love the app.MervOn Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:






Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is when it
 comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive regarding the new app. Best regards,Sieghard 



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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, 
genre, or even instrument as well as period made for hours of fun over the 
weekend. 
There are two small hitches that sort of take the shine off the Apple. And I’m 
hoping they eventually correct this. I did call both Apple and Sonos and speak 
to them in this regard.
First, the app is not currently a supported service of the Sonos system. While 
Apple music is easily accessed all over my residence, the Apple Classical music 
App needs a workaround to be channeled through the whole house Sonos system.
Second, while the app is available for the iPhone and iPad free to anyone who 
subscribes to Apple Music, Apple has no plans to put this app in the Mac App 
Store.
I have an M1 MacBook Pro so had expected to just load it as I do several iPad 
apps and use Airfoil as a workaround. That is a Rogue Amoeba app and works very 
well with Sonos. However, so far I have not been able to enjoy the Apple 
Classical App through the whole house system. And I am hoping they correct that 
with a future update either from Sonos or from Apple. Because I absolutely love 
the app.
Merv


> On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say 
> about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a 
> few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is 
> when it comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated 
> with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive 
> regarding the new app.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Apple Music Classical

2023-04-03 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello,I have been using the new Apple Classical app for around a week now.From an accessibility point of view it is perfectly usable just like the regular Music App.  I expected no less from Apple.The search algorithm is vastly improved and copes well with the demands of classical music.  It does come up with spurious results at times, for example I did a search for the tenor Hosé Carreras and it returned a result for another tenor Tito Schipa.  These gentlemen have nothing in common appart from their both renounced tenors.Generally it is an excellent service although from the searches are better handled I have not found the catalogue has been expanded just that it is far easier to find and listen to music of your choice.Malcolm ParfittOn 3 Apr 2023, at 06:46, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is when it
 comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive regarding the new app.
 
Best regards,
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Re: Apple Music Classical will make its debut soon

2023-03-12 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I wonder how the app will cope with the very varied ways people pronounce composers' names? Tarrega? Mompou?  Anouar Brahem? HarryOn 12 Mar 2023, at 19:22, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:I pre-ordered the app last week.It’ll be interesting to see whether tracks can be added to a library and if so if they will be added to iTunes library as tracks are now.Malcolm ParfittOn 12 Mar 2023, at 18:58, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I know a few people on the list seem to like their classical music so hopefully they will be happy with what is coming in a few weeks:
 
Apple Music Classical will give your smartphone some culture on March 28 | Ars Technica
 
 
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Re: Apple Music Classical will make its debut soon

2023-03-12 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
I pre-ordered the app last week.It’ll be interesting to see whether tracks can be added to a library and if so if they will be added to iTunes library as tracks are now.Malcolm ParfittOn 12 Mar 2023, at 18:58, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







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Apple Music Classical will give your smartphone some culture on March 28 | Ars Technica
 
 
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Re: Apple Music

2023-03-05 Thread Alex Stone
Yes she has!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:05:55 PM
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I believe when you add somebody to Family Sharing they have to accept the 
invitation, has she done this?

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Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 11:26 AM
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My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but she 
cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me please Alex

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RE: Apple Music

2023-03-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And with Apple Music there is also the difference in subscription, do you have 
a personal Apple Music account or do you have the slightly more expensive Apple 
Music Family account? You need the family version to share.

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Subject: Apple Music

My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but she 
cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me please 
Alex 

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RE: Apple Music

2023-03-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I believe when you add somebody to Family Sharing they have to accept the 
invitation, has she done this?

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Subject: Apple Music

My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but she 
cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me please 
Alex 

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Re: Apple Music

2023-03-05 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi,

First question, is your Apple Music a single subscription or family 
subscription?  Your wife would only be able to access it if you have a family 
subscription.
You could check settings under your name, you will find subscriptions, or if 
you know what you pay, single subscription is $10.99, family subscription is 
$16.99.

Chris


> On Mar 4, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> My wife has just created an new Apple ID I added her to family sharing but 
> she cannot access my Apple Music on her 12 pro max could someone help me 
> please 
> Alex 
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Sieghard,

Excellent troubleshooting  advice.  I completely agree.

When I first began using my 14, try as I may, I could not adjust the ringer 
volume on the device.  Nor could I change the volume of a call until I toggled 
the Attention Aware Features to off.  I learned of this setting via Google.  
Like you, I always start with the device's built-in mikes and speakers, before 
testing on Apple wired Ear Pods.

The funny thing is that when updating to 16.2 on iPhone 11, this feature was 
automatically set to off, however, as many on the web have reported, this 
feature is automatically enabled on the iPhone 14 models.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

Mark, I just checked this setting on my iPhone 13 Pro and it is turned on yet I 
have no issues changing the call volume with the volume up and down button when 
a call is active.
I just tried this with my wired Earpods connected and while I have not tried it 
for example with my Aftershokz Open Com Bluetooth headset, I am pretty sure I 
have used it previously and was able to adjust the volume as well.
I am wondering if Janet says people can't hear her well if she is using one of 
her Bluetooth headsets or if it is using just the iPhone held to her ear or if 
she is using a wired headset like the Earpods.
Once again my advice is to rule out as many things which can have influence 
here which means if she has tried this with Bluetooth, just make a phone call 
and try it with  your iPhone either held to your ear or on speaker. I just 
called my bank which gave me their interactive voice response system so I used 
this and was definitely able to confirm that turning up the volume made it 
louder and turning down the volume made it less loud.
Of course this does not factor in how others can hear Janet, but at least it is 
a way to see if the volume buttons work without using a Bluetooth headset.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

Hello,

I don't  have Janet's previous reply to this thread so am responding here.

While I cannot address the Apple Music issue, I have a suggestion about the 
inability to change call volume, during a call:

I first referred to this in a different thread but it may be worth trying, in 
this instance.

If you're running  iOS 16.2, do the following:
1.
 From the Settings menu, select Face ID and Passcode.  Enter your credentials.

2.
Find the "Attention Aware Features" button and toggle it to, "OFF."  This 
option is located just below the "Require Attention for Face ID," option.  
These are two separate settings.  

Reboot the phone and see if you can now change the call volume when on a call 
or during incoming calls.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

question, is the music issue happening over cellular data or your home wifi?

On 1/10/23, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like 
> an idiot, but I take that back.  I am still now having the same 
> problem with Apple Music and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only 
> with my Bose Sound Color speaker, but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, 
> Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  The music just stops 
> playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some times that 
> just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I guess 
> I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This 
> is on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm right back where I started, 
> just because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I 
> also have problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can't 
> raise the volume, so when I am on a important call, the other end 
> can't hear  me, and I can't hardly hear them!  I keep raising the up 
> volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear any musical tone from Siri, 
> so I don't know when I can ask him a question.  I ask him to set my alarm, 
> and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the App store to download 
> one!
> This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad to have all this 
> happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes to show 
> just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!
>
> Janet
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Mark, I just checked this setting on my iPhone 13 Pro and it is turned on yet I 
have no issues changing the call volume with the volume up and down button when 
a call is active.
I just tried this with my wired Earpods connected and while I have not tried it 
for example with my Aftershokz Open Com Bluetooth headset, I am pretty sure I 
have used it previously and was able to adjust the volume as well.
I am wondering if Janet says people can't hear her well if she is using one of 
her Bluetooth headsets or if it is using just the iPhone held to her ear or if 
she is using a wired headset like the Earpods.
Once again my advice is to rule out as many things which can have influence 
here which means if she has tried this with Bluetooth, just make a phone call 
and try it with  your iPhone either held to your ear or on speaker. I just 
called my bank which gave me their interactive voice response system so I used 
this and was definitely able to confirm that turning up the volume made it 
louder and turning down the volume made it less loud.
Of course this does not factor in how others can hear Janet, but at least it is 
a way to see if the volume buttons work without using a Bluetooth headset.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

Hello,

I don't  have Janet's previous reply to this thread so am responding here.

While I cannot address the Apple Music issue, I have a suggestion about the 
inability to change call volume, during a call:

I first referred to this in a different thread but it may be worth trying, in 
this instance.

If you're running  iOS 16.2, do the following:
1.
 From the Settings menu, select Face ID and Passcode.  Enter your credentials.

2.
Find the "Attention Aware Features" button and toggle it to, "OFF."  This 
option is located just below the "Require Attention for Face ID," option.  
These are two separate settings.  

Reboot the phone and see if you can now change the call volume when on a call 
or during incoming calls.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

question, is the music issue happening over cellular data or your home wifi?

On 1/10/23, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like 
> an idiot, but I take that back.  I am still now having the same 
> problem with Apple Music and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only 
> with my Bose Sound Color speaker, but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, 
> Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  The music just stops 
> playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some times that 
> just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I guess 
> I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This 
> is on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm right back where I started, 
> just because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I 
> also have problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can't 
> raise the volume, so when I am on a important call, the other end 
> can't hear  me, and I can't hardly hear them!  I keep raising the up 
> volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear any musical tone from Siri, 
> so I don't know when I can ask him a question.  I ask him to set my alarm, 
> and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the App store to download 
> one!
> This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad to have all this 
> happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes to show 
> just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!
>
> Janet
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Janet,

I really hate to ssay this, but I have a feeling this is not an issue with iOS 
16.2 but with your particular device/installation where I assume something may 
have gone wrong. I have heard from a lot of people that Siri was misbehaving 
only for them to get the advice to give it about a second or even half a second 
after the tome to start speaking and this seems to solve the issue for 
everybody I have heard about.
As far as your volume issue I unfortunately don't really have an answer, but 
the fact that earlier you said your Bose speaker worked after raising the 
volume shows that that was the problem.
Regarding music stopping, you really should do one test before you blame Apple 
and iOS 16.2 and that is to play music just on your iPhone through the internal 
speakers or with wired Earpods connected rather than via a Bluetooth 
connection. If you have the same issue then obviously something is wrong with 
Apple Music, but if that works fine then there is some issue with your 
Bluetooth connection/devices. You may have said which iPhone you have in the 
beginning, but if so I forgot, is it an older model? There is always a chance 
of a hardware defect of some sort, but while I believe you said you did a 
complete restore, I nonetheless would do a Reset Network Settings which is also 
done in Settings > General > Reset or whatever it's called now (second from the 
bottom just before Shutdown).
Doing this will reset all your radios and while you have to re-enter your Wi-Fi 
password, it is a worthwhile step which can often fix strange issues.
Another thing I would do to make sure it's not a connectivity issue is to 
reboot your router.
Lastly, in order to rule out more potential problems, do you have another 
device you can use with the same Bose speaker or Sony headset or do you have a 
family member or friend with an iPhone who has also upgraded to 16.2 who could 
connect to your speaker and see if they are having the same issues?
I know this sort of thing is frustrating, but it's really important to 
iliminate as many items which may have an effect on this and things like 
connectivity to your Wi-Fi network, your modem's or router's connectivity to 
the internet, your Bluetooth connectivity all factor into this.
In fact, it might even be good to know what type of connectivity you have, is 
it fiber, cable, ADSL? Do you have your own router or do you use a modem/router 
from your provider? Have  you asked if your provider can check to see if the 
modem needs a firmware update? If you have your own router, have you updated it 
to the latest firmware?


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 7:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like an idiot, 
but I take that back.  I am still now having the same problem with Apple Music 
and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only with my Bose Sound Color speaker, 
but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  
The music just stops playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some 
times that just doesn’t work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I 
guess I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This is 
on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I’m right back where I started, just 
because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I also have 
problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can’t raise the volume, so 
when I am on a important call, the other end can’t hear  me, and I can’t hardly 
hear them!  I keep raising the up volume, but it does no good!  I can’t hear 
any musical tone from Siri, so I don’t know when I can ask him a question.  I 
ask him to set my alarm, and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the 
App store to download one!  This is getting to be just way to much.  It’s sad 
to have all this happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes 
to show just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!

Janet
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread M. Taylor
Hello,

I don't  have Janet's previous reply to this thread so am responding here.

While I cannot address the Apple Music issue, I have a suggestion about the 
inability to change call volume, during a call:

I first referred to this in a different thread but it may be worth trying, in 
this instance.

If you're running  iOS 16.2, do the following:
1.
 From the Settings menu, select Face ID and Passcode.  Enter your credentials.

2.
Find the "Attention Aware Features" button and toggle it to, "OFF."  This 
option is located just below the "Require Attention for Face ID," option.  
These are two separate settings.  

Reboot the phone and see if you can now change the call volume when on a call 
or during incoming calls.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

question, is the music issue happening over cellular data or your home wifi?

On 1/10/23, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like 
> an idiot, but I take that back.  I am still now having the same 
> problem with Apple Music and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only 
> with my Bose Sound Color speaker, but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, 
> Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  The music just stops 
> playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some times that 
> just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I guess 
> I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This 
> is on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm right back where I started, 
> just because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I 
> also have problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can't 
> raise the volume, so when I am on a important call, the other end 
> can't hear  me, and I can't hardly hear them!  I keep raising the up 
> volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear any musical tone from Siri, 
> so I don't know when I can ask him a question.  I ask him to set my alarm, 
> and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the App store to download 
> one!
> This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad to have all this 
> happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes to show 
> just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!
>
> Janet
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Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi,
If you’re only experiencing this with Apple Music, it may be the Apple Music 
quality being too high, causing your Internet to buffer. You can go to your 
Apple settings, followed by music and change the music quality there and lower 
it and see if that helps. You won’t notice much of a difference with your 
speaker and most headphones anyway.

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On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:42 PM, janet gross  wrote:


Hi Everyone,
Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like an idiot, 
but I take that back.  I am still now having the same problem with Apple Music 
and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only with my Bose Sound Color speaker, 
but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, Power Beats, as well as still with my Bose.  
The music just stops playing, and some times I can tap to play again, and some 
times that just doesn’t work, and I pay $10-99 a month for Apple Music!  I 
guess I will have to spend more time with Apple Support tomorrow again! This is 
on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I’m right back where I started, just 
because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which I once again hate!  I also have 
problems  with the volume, for the simple fact, I can’t raise the volume, so 
when I am on a important call, the other end can’t hear  me, and I can’t hardly 
hear them!  I keep raising the up volume, but it does no good!  I can’t hear 
any musical tone from Siri, so I don’t know when I can ask him a question.  I 
ask him to set my alarm, and he says I have no clock app, and I can go to the 
App store to download one!  This is getting to be just way to much.  It’s sad 
to have all this happen just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes 
to show just how much Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!

Janet

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Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth.

2023-01-10 Thread Corey Cook
question, is the music issue happening over cellular data or your home wifi?

On 1/10/23, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I sent a message to this list just yesterday saying I feel like an
> idiot, but I take that back.  I am still now having the same problem with
> Apple Music and my Bluetooth Speaker, and it is not only with my Bose Sound
> Color speaker, but as well with my Sony Ear Pods, Power Beats, as well as
> still with my Bose.  The music just stops playing, and some times I can tap
> to play again, and some times that just doesn't work, and I pay $10-99 a
> month for Apple Music!  I guess I will have to spend more time with Apple
> Support tomorrow again! This is on Apple, and not my speakers!  So, I'm
> right back where I started, just because I updated to this iOS 16.2 in which
> I once again hate!  I also have problems  with the volume, for the simple
> fact, I can't raise the volume, so when I am on a important call, the other
> end can't hear  me, and I can't hardly hear them!  I keep raising the up
> volume, but it does no good!  I can't hear any musical tone from Siri, so I
> don't know when I can ask him a question.  I ask him to set my alarm, and he
> says I have no clock app, and I can go to the App store to download one!
> This is getting to be just way to much.  It's sad to have all this happen
> just because Apple let this get by them.  It just goes to show just how much
> Apple pays attention before sending out the updates!
>
> Janet
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-09 Thread janet gross
Hi Joshua , 
Thank you for your thoughts!  

Janet  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 3:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Janet.  I have no idea why you are having so many problems with IOS 16.2.

On 1/9/23, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Hi Janet,
> Another thing
>
> To consider is checking if there’s new firmware update for your 
> speaker. I know you can do this for compatible Bose devices via Bose 
> connect app on iPhone. Other than that I imagine you removed the 
> device from your bluetooth settings and repaired it already.
> Feliciano
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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:23 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Feliciano,
> I’ve checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I’ve used 
> this Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no 
> problem, until I updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I’ve signed out 
> of the Apple Music App, and signed back in with no different results.  
> I completely understand minor bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to 
> the point of having to erase your entire phone, and still the phone 
> doesn’t work like it should, there is something seriously wrong!
>
> Janet
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Janet,
> I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. 
> First, I would check the setting that your speaker is set as via 
> Bluetooth settings and more info for your speaker. Set that device to 
> speaker as voiceover can behave differently if it’s set to another setting.
> Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your 
> rotor as your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many 
> prefer voiceover speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You 
> can add audio destination via your settings- Settings, accessibility, 
> voiceover followed by rotor.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Feliciano
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to 
> slip away before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas 
> to rectify my Apple Music and Bose Speaker?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as 
> well as with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple 
> Music will play on the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it 
> takes forever to play one song after the other, and I’ve done this for 
> many years.  I had Apple music playing yesterday from one of my play 
> list with

RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Janet, keep in mind that this could have just been some glitch which happened 
to you and while it's frustrating and unfortunate, there will always be stuff 
like that happening.
You may also want to check if your Bose speaker is able to take firmware 
updates as updating devices if it can be done is also very important.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Arnold,
I was thinking I just might have to do that.  I can’t imagine how Apple let 
this one go through, but they did!

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 12:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Also, if everything works as it should except through your speaker, perhaps you 
need to tell your phone to forget this device, then pair it again.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jan 9, 2023, at 12:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it’s set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-09 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Hi Janet.  I have no idea why you are having so many problems with IOS 16.2.

On 1/9/23, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Hi Janet,
> Another thing
>
> To consider is checking if there’s new firmware update for your speaker. I
> know you can do this for compatible Bose devices via Bose connect app on
> iPhone. Other than that I imagine you removed the device from your bluetooth
> settings and repaired it already.
> Feliciano
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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:23 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Feliciano,
> I’ve checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I’ve used this
> Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no problem, until I
> updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I’ve signed out of the Apple Music
> App, and signed back in with no different results.  I completely understand
> minor bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to the point of having to erase
> your entire phone, and still the phone doesn’t work like it should, there
> is something seriously wrong!
>
> Janet
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Janet,
> I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First,
> I would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings
> and more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can
> behave differently if it’s set to another setting.
> Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as
> your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover
> speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio
> destination via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed
> by rotor.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Feliciano
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away
> before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my
> Apple Music and Bose Speaker?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well
> as with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play
> on the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play
> one song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple
> music playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and
> while it didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple
> Music playing a few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected,
> but nothing comes through the speaker.  One problem after the other with
> this phone.
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Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-08 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi Janet,
Another thing

To consider is checking if there’s new firmware update for your speaker. I know 
you can do this for compatible Bose devices via Bose connect app on iPhone. 
Other than that I imagine you removed the device from your bluetooth settings 
and repaired it already.
Feliciano
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On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:23 PM, janet gross  wrote:


Hi Feliciano,
I’ve checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I’ve used this 
Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no problem, until I 
updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I’ve signed out of the Apple Music App, 
and signed back in with no different results.  I completely understand minor 
bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to the point of having to erase your 
entire phone, and still the phone doesn’t work like it should, there  is 
something seriously wrong!

Janet
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it’s set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-08 Thread janet gross
Hi Arnold,
I was thinking I just might have to do that.  I can’t imagine how Apple let 
this one go through, but they did!

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 12:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Also, if everything works as it should except through your speaker, perhaps you 
need to tell your phone to forget this device, then pair it again.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jan 9, 2023, at 12:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it’s set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-08 Thread janet gross
Hi Feliciano,
I've checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I've used this 
Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no problem, until I 
updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I've signed out of the Apple Music App, 
and signed back in with no different results.  I completely understand minor 
bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to the point of having to erase your 
entire phone, and still the phone doesn't work like it should, there  is 
something seriously wrong!

Janet
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it's set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I'm sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I've done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn't work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
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Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-08 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Also, if everything works as it should except through your speaker, perhaps you need to tell your phone to forget this device, then pair it again. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jan 9, 2023, at 12:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:







Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave
 differently if it’s set to another setting. 
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination via
 your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.
 
Hope that helps.
Feliciano

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.


 
Hi Everyone, 
I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

 
Any help will be greatly appreciated.  
 
Janet 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.


 
Hi Everyone, 
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one song
 after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple music playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a few hours ago, but now my Bose
 Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.   
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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

2023-01-08 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it’s set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
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Re: Apple Music karaoke

2022-12-19 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Kayla,

I don’t think the microphone does anything; all I’ve heard is that you can 
adjust the volume of the vocals, and the lyrics are closely synced to the music.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 19, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Kayla King  wrote:
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> 
> Hi all,
> Was just curious, has anyone been able to get the Apple Music karaoke feature 
> to work? I can turn the vocals up and down, but I cannot turn on the 
> microphone. Sent from my iPhone 8+
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Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.

2022-10-08 Thread B. J. Maynard

hi again,

I found it.  I am not sure what is messing up my screen navigation but, I 
found allthe options now under now playing in the now playing screen.  I 
have the usual suspects turned off.  I think it might be the scroll bar 
since I have not delt with that before  on my previous phone.


Sorry for cluttering the list,
B. J. Maynard- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


hi once again,

Ok,  said  most stuff has changed.  Does The apple music now playing screen
still have the repete track, album or off?  I can not find it if so.   still
trying to get that playing next button to bring up options...it seems not to
work for me even with music playing.   I turned it off but, a long press
now will not bring up a menu or anything.  I am unsure how I got it to work
before since I can not repete the act.

Needing help again,
B. J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "B. J. Maynard" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


hi again,

I finaly got it to turn off.  I am not sure why but, I had to hold on
autoplay to get something to pop up ( I assume the  playlist  it created)
Then I could flip it off.

Thanks for your help,
B.  J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "B. J. Maynard" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


hi again,

As I said in my last message I went to what you described while playing
music and it will not flip off it seemes to be dimmed.   Not sure what else
to do if this is the steps to do it.

B. J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "Malcolm Parfitt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


Hello,

To cancel the Auto Play feature do the following.

With some music playing locate the Mini Player and double tap it to expand
it.

You should now be in a Now Playing screen.

In here there are a number of items, one of which should be Auto-Play double
tap it to turn it off.

Double tap the Dismiss The Now Playing screen and you’re done.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 8 Oct 2022, at 19:17, B. J. Maynard  wrote:

hi everyone,

I am getting used to my new iPhone 14 pro from an iPhone 6+.  most of it 
is similar but, I can not find the setting to turn off auto play when I 
play an album and it is over, it autoplays similar stuff.  In the player 
screen I find a now playing auto play  turned on but, when I double tap it 
to assumingly turn it off it is dimmed.  Can someone help?  If I wanted 
similar music I would use the radio feature.


Thanks for any help,
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Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.

2022-10-08 Thread B. J. Maynard

hi once again,

Ok,  said  most stuff has changed.  Does The apple music now playing screen 
still have the repete track, album or off?  I can not find it if so.   still 
trying to get that playing next button to bring up options...it seems not to 
work for me even with music playing.   I turned it off but, a long press 
now will not bring up a menu or anything.  I am unsure how I got it to work 
before since I can not repete the act.


Needing help again,
B. J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "B. J. Maynard" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


hi again,

I finaly got it to turn off.  I am not sure why but, I had to hold on
autoplay to get something to pop up ( I assume the  playlist  it created)
Then I could flip it off.

Thanks for your help,
B.  J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "B. J. Maynard" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


hi again,

As I said in my last message I went to what you described while playing
music and it will not flip off it seemes to be dimmed.   Not sure what else
to do if this is the steps to do it.

B. J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "Malcolm Parfitt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


Hello,

To cancel the Auto Play feature do the following.

With some music playing locate the Mini Player and double tap it to expand
it.

You should now be in a Now Playing screen.

In here there are a number of items, one of which should be Auto-Play double
tap it to turn it off.

Double tap the Dismiss The Now Playing screen and you’re done.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 8 Oct 2022, at 19:17, B. J. Maynard  wrote:

hi everyone,

I am getting used to my new iPhone 14 pro from an iPhone 6+.  most of it 
is similar but, I can not find the setting to turn off auto play when I 
play an album and it is over, it autoplays similar stuff.  In the player 
screen I find a now playing auto play  turned on but, when I double tap it 
to assumingly turn it off it is dimmed.  Can someone help?  If I wanted 
similar music I would use the radio feature.


Thanks for any help,
B. J. Maynard
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Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.

2022-10-08 Thread B. J. Maynard

hi again,

I finaly got it to turn off.  I am not sure why but, I had to hold on 
autoplay to get something to pop up ( I assume the  playlist  it created) 
Then I could flip it off.


Thanks for your help,
B.  J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "B. J. Maynard" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


hi again,

As I said in my last message I went to what you described while playing
music and it will not flip off it seemes to be dimmed.   Not sure what else
to do if this is the steps to do it.

B. J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "Malcolm Parfitt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


Hello,

To cancel the Auto Play feature do the following.

With some music playing locate the Mini Player and double tap it to expand
it.

You should now be in a Now Playing screen.

In here there are a number of items, one of which should be Auto-Play double
tap it to turn it off.

Double tap the Dismiss The Now Playing screen and you’re done.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 8 Oct 2022, at 19:17, B. J. Maynard  wrote:

hi everyone,

I am getting used to my new iPhone 14 pro from an iPhone 6+.  most of it 
is similar but, I can not find the setting to turn off auto play when I 
play an album and it is over, it autoplays similar stuff.  In the player 
screen I find a now playing auto play  turned on but, when I double tap it 
to assumingly turn it off it is dimmed.  Can someone help?  If I wanted 
similar music I would use the radio feature.


Thanks for any help,
B. J. Maynard
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Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.

2022-10-08 Thread B. J. Maynard

hi again,

As I said in my last message I went to what you described while playing 
music and it will not flip off it seemes to be dimmed.   Not sure what else 
to do if this is the steps to do it.


B. J. Maynard
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From: "Malcolm Parfitt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.


Hello,

To cancel the Auto Play feature do the following.

With some music playing locate the Mini Player and double tap it to expand 
it.


You should now be in a Now Playing screen.

In here there are a number of items, one of which should be Auto-Play double 
tap it to turn it off.


Double tap the Dismiss The Now Playing screen and you’re done.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 8 Oct 2022, at 19:17, B. J. Maynard  wrote:

hi everyone,

I am getting used to my new iPhone 14 pro from an iPhone 6+.  most of it 
is similar but, I can not find the setting to turn off auto play when I 
play an album and it is over, it autoplays similar stuff.  In the player 
screen I find a now playing auto play  turned on but, when I double tap it 
to assumingly turn it off it is dimmed.  Can someone help?  If I wanted 
similar music I would use the radio feature.


Thanks for any help,
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Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.

2022-10-08 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello,

To cancel the Auto Play feature do the following.

With some music playing locate the Mini Player and double tap it to expand it.

You should now be in a Now Playing screen.

In here there are a number of items, one of which should be Auto-Play double 
tap it to turn it off.

Double tap the Dismiss The Now Playing screen and you’re done.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 8 Oct 2022, at 19:17, B. J. Maynard  wrote:
> 
> hi everyone,
> 
> I am getting used to my new iPhone 14 pro from an iPhone 6+.  most of it is 
> similar but, I can not find the setting to turn off auto play when I play an 
> album and it is over, it autoplays similar stuff.  In the player screen I 
> find a now playing auto play  turned on but, when I double tap it to 
> assumingly turn it off it is dimmed.  Can someone help?  If I wanted similar 
> music I would use the radio feature.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> B. J. Maynard 
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Re: apple music vs deezer

2022-09-17 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
With some music playing double tap the Mini Player to expand it.Locate and double tap Playing Next.You will have a number of items that can be toggled on/off one of which should be Auto Play.  Double tap to toggle on then dismiss that screen.  This should achieve the result you want.Malcolm ParfittOn 17 Sep 2022, at 18:30, Afik Souffir  wrote:







Hi chris, 
 
Thanks for this. 

I actually looking for auto-play.

Auto play should continues play automatically after playlist or album?

 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple music vs deezer


 


 


I am assuming that you are referring to repeat mode, which means when it gets to the end of an album or playlist, instead of stopping, it starts over or continues playing.


I will use a playlist for an example.


 


1, Double tap on the playlist that you want to play.


2, Start playing the playlist.


3, While it is playing, just press side button to envoke Siri, and say turn repeat on.


Now you can also ask Siri to Shuffle if you also want to do that.


 


Now you can also turn it on physically, so here are the instructions.


1, Double tap on playlist that you want to play.


2, I do not know how to get to it without starting to play the playlist first, so swipe to the play button and double tap play.  You can then double tap  it again or do the magic tap to stop it.


3, Go to the bottom of the screen where the taps are and swipe to the left until you get to the mini player, keep swiping until you get to album art work, then double tap that.


4, This will bring up the mini player to cover the screen.  Now go to the bottom of that screen and double tap Playing Next.  This should select it.


5, Now go back to the top of the screen.  there are probably several pages on this screen, so swipe up with 3 fingers until you hear page 1, or if you hear a bong sound, then that means that you are on page 1.


6, Now just swipe until you get to 3 choices, repeat, shuffle, and auto play. Each choice has a toggle switch, so turn on which ever you want.


 


Hope this helps.


 


Chris


 







On Sep 17, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Afik Souffir <afik.souf...@outlook.com> wrote:




 

I’m subscribed to Apple one, and its nice!


One think i dont know how to do, is to play music non stop.






On 17 Sep 2022, at 18:55, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 
I am sure they offer some sort of free trial so I would recommend you should try it. Apple also offers lossless quality and so does Tidal. I think it really depends on what eco system you want to be in, since we subscribe
 to Apple's big bundle and both my wife and my Mom ae part of that plan it makes sense for us to use Apple Music and in my opinion there is no reason for anybody to subscribe to two music services, it's not like with TV where you most likely definitely want
 Netflix, Disney and whatever other streaming services have the type of shows or movies you like, but music is music and Apple I believe still has as many songs as anybody if not more.

 


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Subject: dizzer accessibility


 
 
Hi,
 
I’m thinking of starting to use Dizzer music.
 
How is the accessibility there? 
I heard its have the Flac quality, which as far as I know, it’s the best quality.
 
Have any of you use it?
 
 
Thanks,
 
 
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RE: apple music vs deezer

2022-09-17 Thread Afik Souffir
Hi chris,

Thanks for this.
I actually looking for auto-play.
Auto play should continues play automatically after playlist or album?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple music vs deezer


I am assuming that you are referring to repeat mode, which means when it gets 
to the end of an album or playlist, instead of stopping, it starts over or 
continues playing.
I will use a playlist for an example.

1, Double tap on the playlist that you want to play.
2, Start playing the playlist.
3, While it is playing, just press side button to envoke Siri, and say turn 
repeat on.
Now you can also ask Siri to Shuffle if you also want to do that.

Now you can also turn it on physically, so here are the instructions.
1, Double tap on playlist that you want to play.
2, I do not know how to get to it without starting to play the playlist first, 
so swipe to the play button and double tap play.  You can then double tap  it 
again or do the magic tap to stop it.
3, Go to the bottom of the screen where the taps are and swipe to the left 
until you get to the mini player, keep swiping until you get to album art work, 
then double tap that.
4, This will bring up the mini player to cover the screen.  Now go to the 
bottom of that screen and double tap Playing Next.  This should select it.
5, Now go back to the top of the screen.  there are probably several pages on 
this screen, so swipe up with 3 fingers until you hear page 1, or if you hear a 
bong sound, then that means that you are on page 1.
6, Now just swipe until you get to 3 choices, repeat, shuffle, and auto play. 
Each choice has a toggle switch, so turn on which ever you want.

Hope this helps.

Chris



On Sep 17, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Afik Souffir 
mailto:afik.souf...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I’m subscribed to Apple one, and its nice!
One think i dont know how to do, is to play music non stop.


On 17 Sep 2022, at 18:55, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I am sure they offer some sort of free trial so I would recommend you should 
try it. Apple also offers lossless quality and so does Tidal. I think it really 
depends on what eco system you want to be in, since we subscribe to Apple's big 
bundle and both my wife and my Mom ae part of that plan it makes sense for us 
to use Apple Music and in my opinion there is no reason for anybody to 
subscribe to two music services, it's not like with TV where you most likely 
definitely want Netflix, Disney and whatever other streaming services have the 
type of shows or movies you like, but music is music and Apple I believe still 
has as many songs as anybody if not more.

From: 'Afik Souffir' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 1:02 AM
To: 'via VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>; 
only-apple-...@groups.io<mailto:only-apple-...@groups.io>
Subject: dizzer accessibility


Hi,

I’m thinking of starting to use Dizzer music.

How is the accessibility there?
I heard its have the Flac quality, which as far as I know, it’s the best 
quality.

Have any of you use it?


Thanks,


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Re: apple music vs deezer

2022-09-17 Thread Chris Chaffin

I am assuming that you are referring to repeat mode, which means when it gets 
to the end of an album or playlist, instead of stopping, it starts over or 
continues playing.
I will use a playlist for an example.

1, Double tap on the playlist that you want to play.
2, Start playing the playlist.
3, While it is playing, just press side button to envoke Siri, and say turn 
repeat on.
Now you can also ask Siri to Shuffle if you also want to do that.

Now you can also turn it on physically, so here are the instructions.
1, Double tap on playlist that you want to play.
2, I do not know how to get to it without starting to play the playlist first, 
so swipe to the play button and double tap play.  You can then double tap  it 
again or do the magic tap to stop it.
3, Go to the bottom of the screen where the taps are and swipe to the left 
until you get to the mini player, keep swiping until you get to album art work, 
then double tap that.
4, This will bring up the mini player to cover the screen.  Now go to the 
bottom of that screen and double tap Playing Next.  This should select it.
5, Now go back to the top of the screen.  there are probably several pages on 
this screen, so swipe up with 3 fingers until you hear page 1, or if you hear a 
bong sound, then that means that you are on page 1.
6, Now just swipe until you get to 3 choices, repeat, shuffle, and auto play. 
Each choice has a toggle switch, so turn on which ever you want.

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Afik Souffir  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m subscribed to Apple one, and its nice!
> One think i dont know how to do, is to play music non stop.
> 
>>> On 17 Sep 2022, at 18:55, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I am sure they offer some sort of free trial so I would recommend you should 
>> try it. Apple also offers lossless quality and so does Tidal. I think it 
>> really depends on what eco system you want to be in, since we subscribe to 
>> Apple's big bundle and both my wife and my Mom ae part of that plan it makes 
>> sense for us to use Apple Music and in my opinion there is no reason for 
>> anybody to subscribe to two music services, it's not like with TV where you 
>> most likely definitely want Netflix, Disney and whatever other streaming 
>> services have the type of shows or movies you like, but music is music and 
>> Apple I believe still has as many songs as anybody if not more.
>>  
>> From: 'Afik Souffir' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 1:02 AM
>> To: 'via VIPhone' ; only-apple-...@groups.io
>> Subject: dizzer accessibility
>>  
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I’m thinking of starting to use Dizzer music.
>>  
>> How is the accessibility there?
>> I heard its have the Flac quality, which as far as I know, it’s the best 
>> quality.
>>  
>> Have any of you use it?
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
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Re: apple music vs deezer

2022-09-17 Thread Afik Souffir
I’m subscribed to Apple one, and its nice!
One think i dont know how to do, is to play music non stop.

On 17 Sep 2022, at 18:55, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I am sure they offer some sort of free trial so I would recommend you should 
try it. Apple also offers lossless quality and so does Tidal. I think it really 
depends on what eco system you want to be in, since we subscribe to Apple's big 
bundle and both my wife and my Mom ae part of that plan it makes sense for us 
to use Apple Music and in my opinion there is no reason for anybody to 
subscribe to two music services, it's not like with TV where you most likely 
definitely want Netflix, Disney and whatever other streaming services have the 
type of shows or movies you like, but music is music and Apple I believe still 
has as many songs as anybody if not more.

From: 'Afik Souffir' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 1:02 AM
To: 'via VIPhone' ; only-apple-...@groups.io
Subject: dizzer accessibility


Hi,

I’m thinking of starting to use Dizzer music.

How is the accessibility there?
I heard its have the Flac quality, which as far as I know, it’s the best 
quality.

Have any of you use it?


Thanks,


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Re: Apple Music Help Please.

2022-09-17 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Janet,In your library, there is an edit button. Double tap this button, and makes sure that Playlists is selected. Then tap done. Now your playlist button should reappear.JennJenn and KumiOn Sep 16, 2022, at 3:04 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi Everyone, 
Since I updated my XR phone to iOS 15.7 a couple of days ago,  I can’t find any of my 12 play lists that I created some years ago, and listen to everyday.  The only options I get when I am in the music app, browse, play, search, library,
 and I tap on library as I usually  did in order to come out of a search that I might have been in looking for an album or a song, in order to go back to my play lists.  Now, I just can’t find any of my play lists though, and I’ve worked on this for 2 days,
 but still no go.  Matter of fact,  I also keep seeing the searches I’ve done some months ago, and I just can’t get out of that!  I’ve done a reboot but still no go. 

 
Thank you all in advance for any suggestions.  
 
Janet  






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RE: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

2022-05-12 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, if it is a streaming station and you have internet access.  Frankly, I 
find TuneIn Radio to be far easier to use for streaming radio.

 

 

Richard

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 9:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

 

Can I listen to radio in Nusic App?

Thanks!

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On May 12, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I have the following tabs along the bottom of the screen on my iPhone 11 when I 
open the music app:

 

Listen Now, Browse, Radio, Library and Search

 

When I select Library, it says “Library Heading” at the top of the screen and 
underneath hat I have the following (swiping right from the heading):

Playlists

Artists

Albums

Songs

Music Videos

Genres

Compellations

Composers

 

After that I come to a “Recently Added” heading and following this is a long 
list of music I recently added to my library.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

 

I do not use Apple music; but isn't there a way to select the source in the 
iPhone music app to be your library, rather than Apple Music?

 

 

 

 

Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 






On May 10, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan mailto:our4p...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

I’m new to Apple Music, on a 6 month trial. I’ve noticed my playlists are 
messed up. Playlists I have had for several years have changed. There should be 
over a hundred songs in a particular smart playlist and now there are four.

I can only guess that Apple music has changed something. Is there a way I can 
change it back, or stop it from doing this in the future? I am a heavy 
playlist/smart playlist user.

So far, everything is remaining the usual way it should be on my Mac. I’m 
seeing these changes on my iPhone.

Thanks,
Traci 

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Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

2022-05-12 Thread Mohammad Fazil
Can I listen to radio in Nusic App?
Thanks!



Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I have the following tabs along the bottom of the screen on my iPhone 11 when I 
open the music app:

Listen Now, Browse, Radio, Library and Search

When I select Library, it says “Library Heading” at the top of the screen and 
underneath hat I have the following (swiping right from the heading):
Playlists
Artists
Albums
Songs
Music Videos
Genres
Compellations
Composers

After that I come to a “Recently Added” heading and following this is a long 
list of music I recently added to my library.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

I do not use Apple music; but isn't there a way to select the source in the 
iPhone music app to be your library, rather than Apple Music?




Richard
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On May 10, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
Hi all,

I’m new to Apple Music, on a 6 month trial. I’ve noticed my playlists are 
messed up. Playlists I have had for several years have changed. There should be 
over a hundred songs in a particular smart playlist and now there are four.

I can only guess that Apple music has changed something. Is there a way I can 
change it back, or stop it from doing this in the future? I am a heavy 
playlist/smart playlist user.

So far, everything is remaining the usual way it should be on my Mac. I’m 
seeing these changes on my iPhone.

Thanks,
Traci

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RE: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

2022-05-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have the following tabs along the bottom of the screen on my iPhone 11 when I 
open the music app:

Listen Now, Browse, Radio, Library and Search

When I select Library, it says “Library Heading” at the top of the screen and 
underneath hat I have the following (swiping right from the heading):
Playlists
Artists
Albums
Songs
Music Videos
Genres
Compellations
Composers

After that I come to a “Recently Added” heading and following this is a long 
list of music I recently added to my library.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
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Subject: Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

I do not use Apple music; but isn't there a way to select the source in the 
iPhone music app to be your library, rather than Apple Music?




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On May 10, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
Hi all,

I’m new to Apple Music, on a 6 month trial. I’ve noticed my playlists are 
messed up. Playlists I have had for several years have changed. There should be 
over a hundred songs in a particular smart playlist and now there are four.

I can only guess that Apple music has changed something. Is there a way I can 
change it back, or stop it from doing this in the future? I am a heavy 
playlist/smart playlist user.

So far, everything is remaining the usual way it should be on my Mac. I’m 
seeing these changes on my iPhone.

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

2022-05-10 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I’m sure, oike richard, that it used to be possible to show my music rather 
than just Apple Music. I have iTunes Match as well as an Apple Music 
subscription. But I’ve just checked on iPhone and iPad and I cannot find any 
way to change what is displayed other than turning off using Apple Music in 
settings! Do ring Apple Accessibility and let us all know. 
Harry

> On 10 May 2022, at 23:45, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Nope.
> Maybe Apple Accessibility?
> 1-877-204-3930
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 10, 2022, at 2:33 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi, I just looked in the Music app and also in settings. I am not seeing 
>> anything like what you suggested. :-)
>> 
>> Any other ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 10, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
>>> I do not use Apple music; but isn't there a way to select the source in 
>>> the iPhone music app to be your library, rather than Apple Music?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
> On May 10, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
 Hi all,
 
 I’m new to Apple Music, on a 6 month trial. I’ve noticed my playlists are 
 messed up. Playlists I have had for several years have changed. There 
 should be over a hundred songs in a particular smart playlist and now 
 there are four.
 
 I can only guess that Apple music has changed something. Is there a way I 
 can change it back, or stop it from doing this in the future? I am a heavy 
 playlist/smart playlist user.
 
 So far, everything is remaining the usual way it should be on my Mac. I’m 
 seeing these changes on my iPhone.
 
 Thanks,
 Traci 
 
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Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

2022-05-10 Thread Richard Turner
Nope.
Maybe Apple Accessibility?
1-877-204-3930





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> On May 10, 2022, at 2:33 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I just looked in the Music app and also in settings. I am not seeing 
> anything like what you suggested. :-)
> 
> Any other ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 10, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> I do not use Apple music; but isn't there a way to select the source in the 
>> iPhone music app to be your library, rather than Apple Music?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
 On May 10, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I’m new to Apple Music, on a 6 month trial. I’ve noticed my playlists are 
>>> messed up. Playlists I have had for several years have changed. There 
>>> should be over a hundred songs in a particular smart playlist and now there 
>>> are four.
>>> 
>>> I can only guess that Apple music has changed something. Is there a way I 
>>> can change it back, or stop it from doing this in the future? I am a heavy 
>>> playlist/smart playlist user.
>>> 
>>> So far, everything is remaining the usual way it should be on my Mac. I’m 
>>> seeing these changes on my iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci 
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Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

2022-05-10 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi, I just looked in the Music app and also in settings. I am not seeing 
anything like what you suggested. :-)

Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Richard Turner  
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> I do not use Apple music; but isn't there a way to select the source in the 
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> 
> 
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>>> On May 10, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’m new to Apple Music, on a 6 month trial. I’ve noticed my playlists are 
>> messed up. Playlists I have had for several years have changed. There should 
>> be over a hundred songs in a particular smart playlist and now there are 
>> four.
>> 
>> I can only guess that Apple music has changed something. Is there a way I 
>> can change it back, or stop it from doing this in the future? I am a heavy 
>> playlist/smart playlist user.
>> 
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Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

2022-05-10 Thread Richard Turner
I do not use Apple music; but isn't there a way to select the source in the 
iPhone music app to be your library, rather than Apple Music?





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> On May 10, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I’m new to Apple Music, on a 6 month trial. I’ve noticed my playlists are 
> messed up. Playlists I have had for several years have changed. There should 
> be over a hundred songs in a particular smart playlist and now there are four.
> 
> I can only guess that Apple music has changed something. Is there a way I can 
> change it back, or stop it from doing this in the future? I am a heavy 
> playlist/smart playlist user.
> 
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> seeing these changes on my iPhone.
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> Traci 
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Re: Apple Music playback glitch revisited.

2022-01-11 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I have Apple Music set to high quality for cellular, lostless for wifi. I have 
turned off Dolby Atmos, having become disillusioned with it, a subject for 
another thread. The problem at the beginning of tracks seems to be getting 
signifigantly better for me. I can play an entire album and it doesn't do it 
once. When it does, it seems to happen only once or twice, as with the album I 
listened to earlier today, when it only did it once.   Now that I think about 
it, I don't know that it ever has this problem when on high quality, but the 
sample size is much smaller than when on lostless. I can go for days without it 
doing it on either setting. The mystery continues. 

Arnold Schmidt 

On Jan 11, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Some of you may remember the discussion about playback of Apple Music tracks 
where a pause is apparent when playing tracks sequentially in an album.

You may remember my posting an example here just before Christmas.

It would appear that this issue exists if streamed or stored tracks are in 
anything above High Quality, AAC 256 kbps.

If playback is set to High Quality, AAC 256 kbps then in my experience music 
plays as it should.

This can be controlled via the Music App under Audio Quality.

Note you have to set the quality of Wi-Fi, Mobile streaming and stored media 
separately.



This bug rather diminishes the point of Apple converting their catalogue of 
music to lossless at least when played on some devices.Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
You really should be clear that you are using the beta, or you will have people 
checking to see where the 15.3 update is ...



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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Dec 24, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 I am using a 12 pro max with 15.3. Hopefully they are working on the issue 
now.

Jenn and Kumi

On Dec 23, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS you’re 
using please?

I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and establish a 
cause.

I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased all 
content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in Recovery Mode and 
updated via iTunes but the problem remains.

I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is is not a 
geographical problem.

I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these vary 
between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of tracks. Some 
tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even downloading the tracks to 
the iPhone does not change the outcome so presumably it’s not a network issue.

I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those that do 
not, but I don’t think that would help.

The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It is only 
when one track follows another the problem is apparent.
Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list members 
I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts to help me track 
down this issue.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:

That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I 
Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or 
touching the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.

enn and Kumi

On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello Jenn,

The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  If 
you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track ends 
and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I attached 
to an earlier message.

Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
much appreciated.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear the 
pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just playing 
it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for you?

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in 

Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-24 Thread Jennie Facer
I am using a 12 pro max with 15.3. Hopefully they are working on the issue now.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 23, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jenn,
> 
> Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS you’re 
> using please?
> 
> I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and establish a 
> cause.
> 
> I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased all 
> content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in Recovery Mode 
> and updated via iTunes but the problem remains.
> 
> I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is is not a 
> geographical problem.
> 
> I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these vary 
> between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of tracks. Some 
> tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even downloading the tracks 
> to the iPhone does not change the outcome so presumably it’s not a network 
> issue.
> 
> I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those that do 
> not, but I don’t think that would help.
> 
> The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It is 
> only when one track follows another the problem is apparent.
> Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718
> 
> As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list 
> members I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts to 
> help me track down this issue.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>> That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I 
>> Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or 
>> touching the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.
>> 
>> enn and Kumi
>> 
 On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
 wrote:
 
>>> Hello Jenn,
>>> 
>>> The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
>>> sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from 
>>> the end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its 
>>> intirety..  If you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when 
>>> that track ends and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in 
>>> the file I attached to an earlier message.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, 
>>> it’s much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
> On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
 Hi Malcolm,
 
 I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear 
 the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just 
 playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for 
 you?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jenn
 
 Jenn and Kumi
 
>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing 
> many albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums 
> on.
> 
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
> 
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  
> So when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause 
> in playback.
> 
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
> 
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
> have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  
> If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
> 
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
> 
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-23 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Have you contacted Apple? I have been a bit busy since suggesting one of us 
contact them, but I will if this persists. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Dec 23, 2021, at 8:01 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS you’re 
using please?

I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and establish a 
cause.

I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased all 
content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in Recovery Mode and 
updated via iTunes but the problem remains.

I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is is not a 
geographical problem.

I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these vary 
between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of tracks. Some 
tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even downloading the tracks to 
the iPhone does not change the outcome so presumably it’s not a network issue.

I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those that do 
not, but I don’t think that would help.

The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It is only 
when one track follows another the problem is apparent.
Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list members 
I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts to help me track 
down this issue.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I 
> Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or 
> touching the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.
> 
> enn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jenn,
>> 
>> The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
>> sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
>> end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  
>> If you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track 
>> ends and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I 
>> attached to an earlier message.
>> 
>> Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
>> much appreciated.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>> On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Malcolm,
>>> 
>>> I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear 
>>> the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just 
>>> playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for 
>>> you?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
 On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
 albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
 
 This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums 
 on.
 
 If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
 
 If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
 so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  
 So when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause 
 in playback.
 
 One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
 
 https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
 
 I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
 have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  
 If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
 
 Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
 experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
 
 Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
 
 Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-23 Thread doug parisian
Malcolm, I have been experience the problems as you describe for at 
least a month. I have an Iphone XR with IO 15.2. The only thing I 
haven't tried yet is scratching behind my left ear with my right hind leg.



On 2021-12-23 7:01 p.m., Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS 
you’re using please?


I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and 
establish a cause.


I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased 
all content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in 
Recovery Mode and updated via iTunes but the problem remains.


I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is 
is not a geographical problem.


I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these 
vary between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of 
tracks. Some tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even 
downloading the tracks to the iPhone does not change the outcome so 
presumably it’s not a network issue.


I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those 
that do not, but I don’t think that would help.


The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It 
is only when one track follows another the problem is apparent.

Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list 
members I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts 
to help me track down this issue.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something 
like “Do I Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track 
without pausing or touching the phone. What you mentioned did not 
happen to me.


enn and Kumi

On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
 wrote:


 Hello Jenn,

The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an 
album sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two 
follows on from the end of track one  as it would when listening to 
the album in its intirety..  If you’ve time, start the album playing 
at track one, then when that track ends and track two begins you may 
hear the hiccup as present in the file I attached to an earlier message.


Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further 
help, it’s much appreciated.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 Hi Malcolm,

I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not 
hear the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. 
I was just playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything 
else I can try for you?


Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
 wrote:


 Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when 
playing many albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.


This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the 
albums on.


If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, 
three, and so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when 
a track begins.  So when say track one ends and track two has 
started there is this pause in playback.


One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without 
success.  I have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the 
problem persists.  If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it 
plays without issue.


Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if 
they experience the pause I describe when track two begins?


Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.

Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-23 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello Jenn,

Thanks for the confirmation. May I ask what iPhone and version of iOS you’re 
using please?

I have tried everything I can think of to resolve this issue and establish a 
cause.

I have signed out of iCloud and back in, reset the device and erased all 
content and settings, set it up as a new device and put it in Recovery Mode and 
updated via iTunes but the problem remains.

I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max and am in the UK but I don’t think it is is not a 
geographical problem.

I cannot attribute the problem to the bit rate of the tracks as these vary 
between albums and have no apparent effect on the playback of tracks. Some 
tracks exhibit the problem while others do not. Even downloading the tracks to 
the iPhone does not change the outcome so presumably it’s not a network issue.

I could compile a list of albums that play as they should and those that do 
not, but I don’t think that would help.

The strange thing is that if I double-tap any track they play fine. It is only 
when one track follows another the problem is apparent.
Another album which is an older recording that is problematical is:

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mascagni-cavalleria-rusticana-leoncavallo-i-pagliacci/691492718

As this protracted issue may be of little or no interest to other list members 
I will close by thanking you all for your thoughts and efforts to help me track 
down this issue.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2021, at 04:15, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I 
> Have It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or 
> touching the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.
> 
> enn and Kumi
> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hello Jenn,
>> 
>> The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
>> sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
>> end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  
>> If you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track 
>> ends and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I 
>> attached to an earlier message.
>> 
>> Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
>> much appreciated.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
 
>>> Hi Malcolm,
>>> 
>>> I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear 
>>> the pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just 
>>> playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for 
>>> you?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
> wrote:
> 
 Hello,
 
 Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
 albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
 
 This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums 
 on.
 
 If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
 
 If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
 so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  
 So when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause 
 in playback.
 
 One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
 
 https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
 
 I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
 have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  
 If I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
 
 Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
 experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
 
 Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
 
 Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-22 Thread Jennie Facer
That is exactly what i did. I played a song that said something like “Do I Have 
It In Me,” then I let it play into the next track without pausing or touching 
the phone. What you mentioned did not happen to me.

enn and Kumi

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jenn,
> 
> The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
> sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
> end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  
> If you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track 
> ends and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I 
> attached to an earlier message.
> 
> Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
> much appreciated.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi Malcolm,
>> 
>> I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear the 
>> pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just 
>> playing it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for 
>> you?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
 On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
 wrote:
 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
>>> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>>> 
>>> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
>>> 
>>> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
>>> 
>>> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
>>> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
>>> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
>>> playback.
>>> 
>>> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
>>> 
>>> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
>>> 
>>> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
>>> have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If 
>>> I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
>>> 
>>> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
>>> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-22 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello Jenn,

The problem I and others have occurres when you play tracks in an album 
sequentially.  So the gap is only present when track two follows on from the 
end of track one  as it would when listening to the album in its intirety..  If 
you’ve time, start the album playing at track one, then when that track ends 
and track two begins you may hear the hiccup as present in the file I attached 
to an earlier message.

Thanks for the trouble you have gone to and your offer of further help, it’s 
much appreciated.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 14:31, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Malcolm,
> 
> I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear the 
> pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just playing 
> it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for you?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
>> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>> 
>> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
>> 
>> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
>> 
>> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
>> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
>> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
>> playback.
>> 
>> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
>> 
>> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
>> 
>> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I 
>> have tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If 
>> I play the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
>> 
>> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
>> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
>> 
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-22 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Malcolm,

I clicked on the link you gave here, and pressed play and i did not hear the 
pauses while track 2 played. I am also using a 12 pro max. I was just playing 
it with the screen unlocked. Is there anything else I can try for you?

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
> 
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
> 
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
> 
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
> 
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
> 
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
> 
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-22 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello Simon,

It is not the pause between tracks that I am referring to, if you listen to the 
beginning of track two you should hear a slight pause after the second track 
has begun to play.  It appears that I am not alone in experiencing this problem.

I have tried disabling newer features like lossless playback and even 
downloaded albums to my iPhone to eliminate network issues but to no avail.

I cannot find a pattern for this behaviour some albums with the same 
characteristics exhibit this behaviour while others do not.

I have tried many playback devices from Bluetooth, wired connections, AirPods 
and even the iPhones internal speakers but none of Them affect the issue I 
describe.

I fully appreciate you and others may not be familiar with the album from which 
I took my sample but I think the hiccup is perfectly audible not withstanding 
that.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 02:30, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Malcolm,
>  
> I was thinking of the quality rather than pauses between tracks,
>  
> Sorry if that’s not what you tried to do,
> But I listen for quality in music and what you recorded was pretty good 
> considering what you were recording on.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:55 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> For your information the recording was made with my Apple Watch Series7 using 
> Just Record.
>  
> I used a NAD 20-30 integrated amplifier and Heybrook5 speakers my iPhone 12 
> Pro Max was connected to the auxiliary input via an Apple charging stand with 
> a 3.5MM to two phono cable.  Those are the technical details for your 
> interest.
>  
> The point of my post which you appear to have missed is not the clarity or 
> otherwise of the recording but the pause at the start of the second track.
>  
> Having listened to the recording I would hope the most disputatious of 
> readers would understand the point I was trying to make.
>  
> I hope the above details will enable you to make a more constructive response.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> On 21 Dec 2021, at 23:00, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Malcolm
>  
> Interesting recording,
> I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.
>  
> Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record 
> that I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Dec 2021, at 10:49, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>  
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
>  
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
>  
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
>  
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
>  
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
>  
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
>  
> Would someone try playin

RE: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-21 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hey Malcolm,

I was thinking of the quality rather than pauses between tracks,

Sorry if that’s not what you tried to do,
But I listen for quality in music and what you recorded was pretty good 
considering what you were recording on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

Hi Simon,

For your information the recording was made with my Apple Watch Series7 using 
Just Record.

I used a NAD 20-30 integrated amplifier and Heybrook5 speakers my iPhone 12 Pro 
Max was connected to the auxiliary input via an Apple charging stand with a 
3.5MM to two phono cable.  Those are the technical details for your interest.

The point of my post which you appear to have missed is not the clarity or 
otherwise of the recording but the pause at the start of the second track.

Having listened to the recording I would hope the most disputatious of readers 
would understand the point I was trying to make.

I hope the above details will enable you to make a more constructive response.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 21 Dec 2021, at 23:00, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Malcolm

Interesting recording,
I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record that 
I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-21 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I have been, as it were, living with it for maybe a couple weeks now, figuring 
that Apple had to know about it and would fix it soon. As you say, it is 
inconsistent. I was playing an album earlier today and it didn't do it. Hey, 
maybe they have finally fixed it. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Dec 21, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Thank you Arnold I was not aware the issue occurred that far back but at least 
I am not alone.

I have been unable to establish a pattern with this problem, it does not appear 
with all albums and no matter what settings I apply in the Music App or whether 
music is stored on the device or streamed the issue persists.

If you hear or discover anything about this issue I would be grateful if you 
would let us know.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 00:01, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I would like to report that this also occurs with 14.8, which I am still 
> running on this S E 2. One of us needs to call Apple to see what they say. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
> 
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
> 
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
> 
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
> 
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
> 
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
> 
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-21 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Thank you Arnold I was not aware the issue occurred that far back but at least 
I am not alone.

I have been unable to establish a pattern with this problem, it does not appear 
with all albums and no matter what settings I apply in the Music App or whether 
music is stored on the device or streamed the issue persists.

If you hear or discover anything about this issue I would be grateful if you 
would let us know.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 00:01, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I would like to report that this also occurs with 14.8, which I am still 
> running on this S E 2. One of us needs to call Apple to see what they say. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
> 
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
> 
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
> 
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
> 
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
> 
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
> 
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
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> 
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-21 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I would like to report that this also occurs with 14.8, which I am still 
running on this S E 2. One of us needs to call Apple to see what they say. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Dec 21, 2021, at 5:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.

Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-21 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hi Simon,

For your information the recording was made with my Apple Watch Series7 using 
Just Record.

I used a NAD 20-30 integrated amplifier and Heybrook5 speakers my iPhone 12 Pro 
Max was connected to the auxiliary input via an Apple charging stand with a 
3.5MM to two phono cable.  Those are the technical details for your interest.

The point of my post which you appear to have missed is not the clarity or 
otherwise of the recording but the pause at the start of the second track.

Having listened to the recording I would hope the most disputatious of readers 
would understand the point I was trying to make.

I hope the above details will enable you to make a more constructive response.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Dec 2021, at 23:00, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Malcolm
>  
> Interesting recording,
> I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.
>  
> Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record 
> that I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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> On 21 Dec 2021, at 10:49, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
> albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>  
> This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.
>  
> If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.
>  
> If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and 
> so-on play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So 
> when say track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in 
> playback.
>  
> One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.
>  
> https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050
>  
> I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
> tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
> the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.
>  
> Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
> experience the pause I describe when track two begins?
>  
> Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

2021-12-21 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Malcolm

Interesting recording,
I’m guessing the lack of clarity  would be from it coming from your sterio

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 12:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music issue when playing certain albums.

Here is a short recording made with my Apple Watch using Just Press Record that 
I hope will demonstrate what I have tried to explain.
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On 21 Dec 2021, at 10:49, Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
Hello,

Since updating to iOS15 I have noticed an annoying issue when playing many 
albums on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

This problem is present no matter what device I am listing to the albums on.

If I choose to play individual tracks the problem does not appear.

If I choose to listen to an entire album then when track two, three, and so-on 
play there is a noticeable pause in playback when a track begins.  So when say 
track one ends and track two has started there is this pause in playback.

One album where this issue is present is ABBA’s recent Voyage album.

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/voyage/1583785050

I have tried all configurations of the Music App but without success.  I have 
tried downloading the album to my iPhone but the problem persists.  If I play 
the album via iTunes on my PC it plays without issue.

Would someone try playing the album from the beginning and see if they 
experience the pause I describe when track two begins?

Thank you in advance for your experiences and suggestions.
Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Apple Music and Siri versus Amazon Music with Alexa, Just Listen

2021-10-29 Thread CHELA Robles
Yikes, Mark, what a journey you’ve been through! Well I do have to make a 
decision to upgrade a certain OS and I ended up upgrading to Windows 11 after 
installing Jaws 2022 and it works flawlessly so far. iTunes still works I still 
have all my music everything is good. The only thing that’s bugging me though 
is the fact and I’ve mentioned this before on the list earlier is when I have 
my Bose frames tempo audio sunglasses connected, Siri doesn’t work very well, 
and it keeps saying that it’s having issues with the connection. I’m afraid 
it’s whatever was broken in the first place I’m thinking the Bose music app or 
some sort of update with the Bose frames tempos I have no idea but the voice 
assistant sometimes works but the majority of the time it doesn’t yet I find 
when I connect it to a regular Bluetooth speaker it works quite well which is 
weird indeed. That’s my only conclusion I can come up with. When I don’t use 
Bluetooth Siri works very well as well I think it’s just the Bose frames tempo 
that has an issue or at least the Bluetooth to that end. I don’t know if 
anybody else has this issue with their bowls frames if any one uses those 
frames tempos sometimes at work but most of the time it doesn’t I kind of got 
lucky this morning though but luck is not always on my side. Anyway great 
story. You got through it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> First, the following is just my musings as to my recent discovery regarding
> using Homepod with Siri and Echo with Alexa.
> 
> Second, this is the first time, since September 27th, that I have felt calm
> enough and comfortable enough to write anything other than tech support
> questions (smile).
> 
> Okay, it has long been my goal to begin using Apple Music on my HomePod in
> order to have ambient music throughout my home.  
> 
> One reason why I have not yet done this is because of the lack of a
> device-specific audio equalizer for HomePod.
> 
> For the most part, I had kind of given up on setting up any kind of audio
> ambient system in my house if for no other reason than doing so seemed less
> and less important.
> 
> Okay, now we go back to September 27th, 2021; the day upon which my beloved
> Windows 7 PC virtually blew up; while it did not explode, it did, in fact
> begin to smoke (smile), no kidding.
> 
> For the next two weeks or so, I began my long journey into the world of
> Windows 10 on a new desktop PC, Fusion, a new version of iTunes for Windows,
> and more.  Add to this the fact that my primary router, which I had been
> using for over 10 years, also stopped working during this period.  
> 
> You know?  They say that bad things come in threes; I think this is true
> because I could not update my beloved iPad Pro 10.5 to iPad 15.1 because it
> would not / could not get passed the software verification screen.
> 
> I write all of this so that you may begin to understand my mind-set which
> lead me to the Apple Music / Amazon Music decision.
> 
> Now let's jump forward to the present.
> 
> 1.
> I purchased a new, bigger better primary router and successfully integrated
> it into my system.
> 
> 2.
> While I do miss my old beloved Windows 7 PC, although it pains me to admit
> it, I am definitely beginning to appreciate all of the accessibility
> advancements made since Windows 10.  Be that as it may, I will never be a
> big fan of any Microsoft product newer than Office 2007 for a host of
> reasons that are too far off-topic for this forum.  I am now running the
> latest version of iTunes for Windows and it's not bad; seems to work well
> with Fusion, I Guess.  What I like most is that I can, once again, backup my
> Apple products without fear of a loss of support.  As an F Y I, as my iTunes
> library is located on a network drive, I did not lose any data due to the
> loss of the old computer.
> 
> 3.
> As difficult  as it is to believe, Apple tech support provided some
> excellent feedback which enabled me to update my beloved iPad Pro to iPad
> 15.1.
> 
> In light of these few but very significant recent successes, I decided that
> it was time to get this home music playback issue, settled, once and for
> all.  Essentially, I want to use my HomePod for something other than an
> overpriced paperweight (smile).
> 
> Now keep in mind that all I want, in terms of music, is the ability to say
> to Siri, or Alexa, or Hank (for all I care), something like, "Play popular
> songs from the 70s." 
> 
> After Apple's announcement that it was launching an Apple Music
> voice-control-only subscription, I thought this would be a perfect fit for
> my needs.
> 
> List member Ed informed me that, although there is still not a
> device-specific equalizer for HomePod, there is the ability to reduce the
> bass via a new setting introduced in recent versions of the OS.
> 
> Let me say that I have not used my HomePod in over a year; I had to update
> the software and, in my opinion, this 

RE: Apple music and audio?

2021-10-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, you can, whether the Apple Music subscription is worth the money it costs 
only you can decide, but I think you typically can get a trial and even if you 
pay from the start, you can always unsubscribe after a couple of month if you 
find you don't like it. Spaceil audio works with all stereo headsets, but you 
have to go to Settings > Music and turn on Dolby Atmos (that is what it is 
called in the app), I think by default it is on "Automatic" or something like 
that and this only works with Apple Airpods and maybe some of the Beats 
headsets, not sure about that.
Keep in mind that at this point the selection of music which was recorded in 
Dolby Atmos or which was remastered is still pretty small.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: October 26, 2021 11:05 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Apple music and audio?

Hi all, so I have an i-Phone s e 220 with the latest update. I have the regular 
pair of earbuds.  So my question is this, is it worth subscribing to apple 
music? Can I get the spatial audio effect? 

Lelia 

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Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-23 Thread Joseph Hudson
Oh yes it would have that list is a great list. And another great list that 
goes along with it. Especially if you're looking just to discuss Apple 
products. It's called blonde apples. And to join the group, you can send a 
blank email to the following email address.

blindapples+subscr...@groups.io

> On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:22 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> I run a phones for the blind list.  We discuss apple android and other 
> phones.  I assure you this would’ve been ended a long time ago.  To subscribe 
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 8:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> And clearly, this list is essentially not moderated because this whole side 
> tracking of the thread should have been stopped a long time ago.
> I’m not a moderator, or several people would be off this list.
>  
> IN fact, this list is getting to the point that I am more seriously 
> considering unsubscribing.
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Except that you have no authority.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
>> On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>>  No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Les 
>>> Kriegler 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>  
>>> OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
>>> threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll 
>>> and find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the 
>>> topic.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
>>>> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
>>>> justice!
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Simon 
>>>> A Fogarty 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>>  
>>>> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>>>>  
>>>> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s 
>>>> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia 
>>>> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex 
>>>> Stone
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>>  
>>>> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
>>>> welcome to stay where they are
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Simon 
>>>> A Fogarty 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>>  
>>>> Hell no alex,
>>>>  
>>>> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>>>>  
>>>> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>>>>  
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex 
>>>> Stone
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>>  
>>>> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to 
>>>> Australia?
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Simon 
>>>> A Fogarty 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-23 Thread Dennis Long
I run a phones for the blind list.  We discuss apple android and other phones.  
I assure you this would’ve been ended a long time ago.  To subscribe to phones 
for the blind send a message to

phonesfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

And clearly, this list is essentially not moderated because this whole side 
tracking of the thread should have been stopped a long time ago.

I’m not a moderator, or several people would be off this list.

 

IN fact, this list is getting to the point that I am more seriously considering 
unsubscribing.

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Except that you have no authority.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Les 
Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,

 

One of our prime ministers back in the 80s 

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia 

They raise the IQ of both countrys

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Hell no alex,

 

They are keeping poisonis things over there,

 

We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Fanus 

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-23 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Bugger,

Sorry to hear that,

Guess we’re al different in what we have access to.
What about amazon websites?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 8:44 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
Unfortunately not. The nearest border from me is that of Namibia which is about 
800 km and I suppose the same would be applicable there.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

As for stock sitting on shelves,

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
S doesn’t have one.

I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>
And see what happens froom there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolb

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-23 Thread Fanus Buys
Ok, I suppose I must take the blame, so sorry.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

And clearly, this list is essentially not moderated because this whole side 
tracking of the thread should have been stopped a long time ago.

I’m not a moderator, or several people would be off this list.

 

IN fact, this list is getting to the point that I am more seriously considering 
unsubscribing.

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Except that you have no authority.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:

 

Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
Kriegler 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:

 

It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,

 

One of our prime ministers back in the 80s 

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia 

They raise the IQ of both countrys

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Hell no alex,

 

They are keeping poisonis things over there,

 

We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apple.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C0e2ac4b0d72f4c02c38e08d935dbb6fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-23 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Simon

Unfortunately not. The nearest border from me is that of Namibia which is about 
800 km and I suppose the same would be applicable there.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Mary Otten
This is ridiculous. Some of us on the list are actually interested in Apple 
stuff. Why don’t the rest of you take your stuff off to a private location and 
talk there. And moderators, where the heck are you? The list is getting out of 
control with stupidity.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
> justice!
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>  
> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
> welcome to stay where they are
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hell no alex,
>  
> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>  
> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
> overly possible either?
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
> distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple 
> I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the 
> end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who 
> can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the 
> shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened 
> to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?
>  
> Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.
>  
> As for stock sitting on shelves,
>  
> That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
> But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
> started it’s sitting on the shelf life.
>  
> Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
> S doesn’t have one.
>  
> I’d start with www.apple.com
> And see what happens froom there.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Alex Stone
Except that you have no authority.

Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:


Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
Kriegler 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:


It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,



One of our prime ministers back in the 80s

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia

They raise the IQ of both countrys





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Bugger,
And it’s related due to the sounds coming out of our apple devices.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:47 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone 
mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,



One of our prime ministers back in the 80s

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia

They raise the IQ of both countrys





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Les Kriegler
No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
> Kriegler 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
> threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
> find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
>> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
>> justice!
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>>  
>> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
>> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
>> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
>> Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
>> welcome to stay where they are
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hell no alex,
>>  
>> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>>  
>> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
>> Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
>> overly possible either?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hello Simon
>> Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
>> distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple 
>> I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in 
>> the end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population 
>> who can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the 
>> shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what 
>> happened to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?
>>  
>> Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.
>>  
>> As for stock sitting on shelves,
>>  
>> That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
>> But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
>> started it’s sitting on the shelf life.
>>  
>> Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
>> S doesn’t have one.
>>  
>> I’d start with www.apple.com
>> And see what happens froom there.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hello Simon
>> That 

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Alex Stone
Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
Kriegler 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:


It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,



One of our prime ministers back in the 80s

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia

They raise the IQ of both countrys





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the s

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Les Kriegler
OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
> justice!
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>  
> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
> welcome to stay where they are
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hell no alex,
>  
> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>  
> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
> overly possible either?
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
> distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple 
> I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the 
> end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who 
> can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the 
> shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened 
> to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?
>  
> Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.
>  
> As for stock sitting on shelves,
>  
> That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
> But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
> started it’s sitting on the shelf life.
>  
> Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
> S doesn’t have one.
>  
> I’d start with www.apple.com
> And see what happens froom there.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
> s

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Alex Stone
It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,



One of our prime ministers back in the 80s

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia

They raise the IQ of both countrys





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,

One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
They raise the IQ of both countrys


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.



If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Alex Stone
My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.



If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, Ju

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hell no alex,

They are keeping poisonis things over there,

We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.



If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since A

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Alex Stone
Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.



If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.



And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:



Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby At

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

As for stock sitting on shelves,

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
S doesn’t have one.

I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>
And see what happens froom there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are ava

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah I know chester came in after they started but now I'm kind of stuck with 
his voice as front man.

But lets hope they keep up the standard they've already set,

As for Chester,
Bummer that those things happen,
Chris cornell and chester within a couple of months of each other,
 R I P 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 3:01 am
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

?Actually Simon,

Mike Shinoda and Chester were co-lead singers. Right now Mike Shinoda is the 
lead singer. Linkin Park is still very much a band after Chesters passing. Mike 
and the rest of the band are continuing on with music and other projects 
related to LP.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Um,,,
> 
> Just a note,
> 
> The lead singer of linkon park was chester Bennington,
> 
> Sadly lost to his own hand  4 years ago.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:57 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
> favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
> Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
> the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!
> 
> I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Simon
>> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
>> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
>> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
>> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost 
>> dead and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago 
>> and one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often 
>> but I made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
>> say about the tech specs.
>> 
>> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard and list
>> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
>> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
>> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
>> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
>> sure if they really know the specs.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby 
>> Atmos format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be 
>> produced using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as 
>> an example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
>> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
>> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>> 
>> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>> 
>> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
>> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
>> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
>> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
>> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
>> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will 
>> be adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special 
>

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Sieghard

Thanks a lot for this. People usually do not believe me about the bad situation 
we experience here. Although we pay more for apple phones the cell phone 
companies do import batteries for the phones but as stated before I can not 
replace my iPod Touch battery and also not my apple watch battery.

Regards

Fanus

 

  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Apple may have websites for a lot of countries, but while there is an Apple.za 
site which is for South Africa, you can't buy anything there. I fyou select the 
"Buy" option you are redirected to a dealer locator and if you Google "Buying 
Apple products in South Africa", you find a website where the following is 
sstated:

 

Please be advised that ZA Store is operated independently by ZA Online Store 
Pty (Ltd) as authorised by Apple South Africa.

Note: Any purchases of Apple products over the Internet from the ZA Store will 
be subject to terms and conditions as set by the operating body, ZA Online 
Store Pty (Ltd).

Apple Inc. will not be held liable for any possible, consequential or 
inadvertent misrepresentation.

For additional queries regarding online sales, please call: 087 940 3100

 

On that website an iPhone Mini 64 Gb, for example, costs 13,999 South African 
Rand which converts to approx $980 US Dollars. This phone costs $699 in the US.

In Canada Apple is currently also gouging a bit, $699 US currently converts to 
approx $875 or $880 Canadian, but an iPhone 12 Mini 64 Gb here in Canada is 
$979 Canadian which if converted back to US is approx. $780 US which is a good 
10% higher than the US price.

But it is still not nearly as bad as in South Africa where it costs approx. 
$980 US or 40% more than what one would pay in the US.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an ar

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Ed Worrell
?Actually Simon,

Mike Shinoda and Chester were co-lead singers. Right now Mike Shinoda is the 
lead singer. Linkin Park is still very much a band after Chesters passing. Mike 
and the rest of the band are continuing on with music and other projects 
related to LP.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Um,,,
> 
> Just a note,
> 
> The lead singer of linkon park was chester Bennington,
> 
> Sadly lost to his own hand  4 years ago.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:57 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
> favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
> Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
> the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!
> 
> I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Simon
>> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
>> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
>> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
>> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost 
>> dead and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago 
>> and one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often 
>> but I made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
>> say about the tech specs.
>> 
>> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard and list
>> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
>> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
>> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
>> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
>> sure if they really know the specs.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby 
>> Atmos format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be 
>> produced using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as 
>> an example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
>> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
>> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>> 
>> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>> 
>> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
>> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
>> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
>> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
>> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
>> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will 
>> be adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special 
>> set of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
>> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
>> detail page for easy discovery.
>> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
>> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
>> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
>> artists and labels to 

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Apple may have websites for a lot of countries, but while there is an Apple.za 
site which is for South Africa, you can't buy anything there. I fyou select the 
"Buy" option you are redirected to a dealer locator and if you Google "Buying 
Apple products in South Africa", you find a website where the following is 
sstated:

Please be advised that ZA Store is operated independently by ZA Online Store 
Pty (Ltd) as authorised by Apple South Africa.
Note: Any purchases of Apple products over the Internet from the ZA Store will 
be subject to terms and conditions as set by the operating body, ZA Online 
Store Pty (Ltd).
Apple Inc. will not be held liable for any possible, consequential or 
inadvertent misrepresentation.
For additional queries regarding online sales, please call: 087 940 3100

On that website an iPhone Mini 64 Gb, for example, costs 13,999 South African 
Rand which converts to approx $980 US Dollars. This phone costs $699 in the US.
In Canada Apple is currently also gouging a bit, $699 US currently converts to 
approx $875 or $880 Canadian, but an iPhone 12 Mini 64 Gb here in Canada is 
$979 Canadian which if converted back to US is approx. $780 US which is a good 
10% higher than the US price.
But it is still not nearly as bad as in South Africa where it costs approx. 
$980 US or 40% more than what one would pay in the US.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

As for stock sitting on shelves,

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
S doesn’t have one.

I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>
And see what happens froom there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes 

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-22 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello Arnold

Thanks very much for the info.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

As for battery life, it is advertised to be 12 hours. I have never run them 
completely down, but there have been a few times that I have run them for maybe 
6 or 7 hours, and they were around 50 percent. Of course, it drops more quickly 
after 50 percent than before. As for an on off switch, it does have one, it is 
on the other side from the what will call the mode button, volume control and 
microphone. These headphones are unique, in that when one attaches the buds 
together with the magnet, it puts them into, as it were, a sleep mode. I have 
never just left them in this sleep mode to see how much it would drain the 
battery, as compared to turning them off, but I will bet it wouldn't drain it a 
lot over time. I do just turn them off when I am not going to use them for a 
while. 

 

Finally, and this is important to know, the charging cable that comes with them 
is a u s b c to u s b c cable. So, unless you have one of these chargers, you 
need either to buy a u s b c charger, or a usb to u s b c cable to charge them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Arnold

I forgot to ask how do you find the battery life i.e. how many hours can one 
listen before its necessary to charge? Also, it sounded from David's podcast 
that there is no on/off switch but that one must stick the two ear pieces 
together via the magnets to put it to sleep, or did I mis understand? And 
lastly, does the sound quality compare well to the first generation airpods? 
Sorry for all these questions?

Regards

Fanus

 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-21 Thread alia robinson
actually LP had two leads, mike and chester.

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Um,,,
> 
> Just a note,
> 
> The lead singer of linkon park was chester Bennington,
> 
> Sadly lost to his own hand  4 years ago.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:57 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
> favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
> Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
> the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!
> 
> I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Simon
>> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
>> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
>> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
>> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost 
>> dead and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago 
>> and one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often 
>> but I made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
>> say about the tech specs.
>> 
>> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard and list
>> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
>> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
>> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
>> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
>> sure if they really know the specs.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby 
>> Atmos format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be 
>> produced using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as 
>> an example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
>> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
>> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>> 
>> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>> 
>> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
>> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
>> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
>> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
>> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
>> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will 
>> be adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special 
>> set of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
>> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
>> detail page for easy discovery.
>> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
>> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
>> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
>> artists and labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more 
>> artists begin to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. 
>> Together, Apple Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

2021-06-21 Thread Simon A Fogarty
What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

As for stock sitting on shelves,

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
S doesn’t have one.

I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>
And see what happens froom there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.
At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby 

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