Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
I bought this thing awhile ago. Besides having to use the Focus 40 blue in place of hearing audio from VO, is there a way to not have it turn the audio all the way off when launching it? I suppose it's $6 down the drain, most likely, but thought I'd ask. - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:33 AM Subject: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder I just got this from the developer. I had ask when the upade that would fix the voiceover problems would be out. Their answer follows. “It will be available in RØDE Rec 2.8. As you might have heard, RØDE Microphones acquired FiRe a couple of weeks ago. We imagine version 2.8 will ship late August.” Neal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
Hi, previous versions did work. The last one totally crashed VoiceOver. I have no clue what Rode will do with this. I will just have to wait and see. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder I bought this thing awhile ago. Besides having to use the Focus 40 blue in place of hearing audio from VO, is there a way to not have it turn the audio all the way off when launching it? I suppose it's $6 down the drain, most likely, but thought I'd ask. - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:33 AM Subject: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder I just got this from the developer. I had ask when the upade that would fix the voiceover problems would be out. Their answer follows. “It will be available in RØDE Rec 2.8. As you might have heard, RØDE Microphones acquired FiRe a couple of weeks ago. We imagine version 2.8 will ship late August.” Neal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2, Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with VoiceOver. The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering. They announced this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd. If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to sync this across to your device, you can still use the app. There's also a clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration screen. It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the Recordings List Configure Input button in the bottom left corner of the Recordings screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the same Recordings screen. So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the following when you start a new recording: 1. Double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the Recordings screen. This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double tapped the Recordings List Configure Input button. However, focus will be on the Cancel, back button, so double tap to get out of the configuration screen. 2. You'll be taken back to the Recordings screen, still without VoiceOver audio. Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the last element of the screen, which is the Recordings List Add button, and then double tap. 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, and should be able to record normally. If you don't have the Record button, navigate to the Settings button at the bottom of the screen and double tap. Navigate to Transport and make sure that Button Controls switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to on. Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual. Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the Recordings List Add button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app is open without losing VoiceOver. But if you close the app, you'll have to go through this again to start your recordings. I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe. If you want to save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen, after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen. Neal can probably tell you whether this is selected by default. If you want to save this setting, and it is selected by default, just flick twice to the right and double tap. You're moving from the default focus of the Cancel button at the top left of the configure screen, to the screen heading, and then to the Save button. Again, you'll be at the Recordings screen, and will want to pick up at step 2., where you do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the Recordings List Add button and double tap to get back your VoiceOver audio. Can people try this and check that it works for them? HTH. Cheers, Esther On 12 Jul 2013, at 08:24, Neal Ewers wrote: Hi, previous versions did work. The last one totally crashed VoiceOver. I have no clue what Rode will do with this. I will just have to wait and see. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder I bought this thing awhile ago. Besides having to use the Focus 40 blue in place of hearing audio from VO, is there a way to not have it turn the audio all the way off when launching it? I suppose it's $6 down the drain, most likely, but thought I'd ask. - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:33 AM Subject: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder I just got this from the developer. I had ask when the upade that would fix the voiceover problems would be out. Their answer follows. “It will be available in RØDE Rec 2.8. As you might have heard, RØDE Microphones acquired FiRe a couple of weeks ago. We imagine version 2.8 will ship late August.” Neal -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post
RE: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
Esther, as per usual, you are full of lengthy, sound advice. There are a couple things to add here. My Fire 2 app dies as soon as I open it. It not only dies, but the screen is frozen, so nothing can be acted upon. I have had sighted assistance look at what happens and nothing we do changes anything. Now, this might be different on other people’s devices. If, however, you have my problem, I would suggest that you turn VoiceOver off before you open the app. Then follow Esther’s very concise instructions. On the other hand, if your app does not die right away, her instructions can likely be followed to the letter. Let’s hope Rode brings back the functionality of this app. Thanks again Esther. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2, Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with VoiceOver. The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering. They announced this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd. If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to sync this across to your device, you can still use the app. There's also a clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration screen. It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the Recordings List Configure Input button in the bottom left corner of the Recordings screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the same Recordings screen. So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the following when you start a new recording: 1. Double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the Recordings screen. This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double tapped the Recordings List Configure Input button. However, focus will be on the Cancel, back button, so double tap to get out of the configuration screen. 2. You'll be taken back to the Recordings screen, still without VoiceOver audio. Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the last element of the screen, which is the Recordings List Add button, and then double tap. 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, and should be able to record normally. If you don't have the Record button, navigate to the Settings button at the bottom of the screen and double tap. Navigate to Transport and make sure that Button Controls switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to on. Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual. Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the Recordings List Add button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app is open without losing VoiceOver. But if you close the app, you'll have to go through this again to start your recordings. I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe. If you want to save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen, after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen. Neal can probably tell you whether this is selected by default. If you want to save this setting, and it is selected by default, just flick twice to the right and double tap. You're moving from the default focus of the Cancel button at the top left of the configure screen, to the screen heading, and then to the Save button. Again, you'll be at the Recordings screen, and will want to pick up at step 2., where you do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the Recordings List Add button and double tap to get back your VoiceOver audio. Can people try this and check that it works for them? HTH. Cheers, Esther On 12 Jul 2013, at 08:24, Neal Ewers wrote: Hi, previous versions did work. The last one totally crashed VoiceOver. I have no clue what Rode will do with this. I will just have to wait and see. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
What I do is when I double tap the add button and VoiceOver dies, I doubletap with two fingers to bring VoiceOber back on and I do another two finger double To keep voiceover and stop music playing. That always works for me. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Esther, as per usual, you are full of lengthy, sound advice. There are a couple things to add here. My Fire 2 app dies as soon as I open it. It not only dies, but the screen is frozen, so nothing can be acted upon. I have had sighted assistance look at what happens and nothing we do changes anything. Now, this might be different on other people’s devices. If, however, you have my problem, I would suggest that you turn VoiceOver off before you open the app. Then follow Esther’s very concise instructions. On the other hand, if your app does not die right away, her instructions can likely be followed to the letter. Let’s hope Rode brings back the functionality of this app. Thanks again Esther. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2, Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with VoiceOver. The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering. They announced this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd. If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to sync this across to your device, you can still use the app. There's also a clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration screen. It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the Recordings List Configure Input button in the bottom left corner of the Recordings screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the same Recordings screen. So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the following when you start a new recording: 1. Double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the Recordings screen. This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double tapped the Recordings List Configure Input button. However, focus will be on the Cancel, back button, so double tap to get out of the configuration screen. 2. You'll be taken back to the Recordings screen, still without VoiceOver audio. Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the last element of the screen, which is the Recordings List Add button, and then double tap. 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, and should be able to record normally. If you don't have the Record button, navigate to the Settings button at the bottom of the screen and double tap. Navigate to Transport and make sure that Button Controls switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to on. Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual. Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the Recordings List Add button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app is open without losing VoiceOver. But if you close the app, you'll have to go through this again to start your recordings. I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe. If you want to save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen, after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen. Neal can probably tell you whether this is selected by default. If you want to save this setting, and it is selected by default, just flick twice to the right and double tap. You're moving from the default focus of the Cancel button at the top left of the configure screen, to the screen heading, and then to the Save button. Again, you'll be at the Recordings screen, and will want to pick up at step 2., where you do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the Recordings List Add button and double tap to get back your VoiceOver audio. Can people try this and check
Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
For me, on the 4S, VO dies right when I launch the app. I haven't tried it by closing VO before launching. - Original Message - From: Ben Blatchford To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder What I do is when I double tap the add button and VoiceOver dies, I doubletap with two fingers to bring VoiceOber back on and I do another two finger double To keep voiceover and stop music playing. That always works for me. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Esther, as per usual, you are full of lengthy, sound advice. There are a couple things to add here. My Fire 2 app dies as soon as I open it. It not only dies, but the screen is frozen, so nothing can be acted upon. I have had sighted assistance look at what happens and nothing we do changes anything. Now, this might be different on other people’s devices. If, however, you have my problem, I would suggest that you turn VoiceOver off before you open the app. Then follow Esther’s very concise instructions. On the other hand, if your app does not die right away, her instructions can likely be followed to the letter. Let’s hope Rode brings back the functionality of this app. Thanks again Esther. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2, Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with VoiceOver. The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering. They announced this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd. If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to sync this across to your device, you can still use the app. There's also a clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration screen. It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the Recordings List Configure Input button in the bottom left corner of the Recordings screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the same Recordings screen. So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the following when you start a new recording: 1. Double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the Recordings screen. This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double tapped the Recordings List Configure Input button. However, focus will be on the Cancel, back button, so double tap to get out of the configuration screen. 2. You'll be taken back to the Recordings screen, still without VoiceOver audio. Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the last element of the screen, which is the Recordings List Add button, and then double tap. 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, and should be able to record normally. If you don't have the Record button, navigate to the Settings button at the bottom of the screen and double tap. Navigate to Transport and make sure that Button Controls switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to on. Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual. Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the Recordings List Add button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app is open without losing VoiceOver. But if you close the app, you'll have to go through this again to start your recordings. I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe. If you want to save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen, after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen. Neal can probably tell you whether this is selected by default. If you want to save this setting, and it is selected by default, just flick twice to the right and double tap. You're moving from the default focus of the Cancel button at the top left of the configure
Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
Did you try the tip I gave in my last message? Running it on the 4s and the tip I gave works for me. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote: For me, on the 4S, VO dies right when I launch the app. I haven't tried it by closing VO before launching. - Original Message - From: Ben Blatchford To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Very interesting news aboutFire 2 recorder What I do is when I double tap the add button and VoiceOver dies, I doubletap with two fingers to bring VoiceOber back on and I do another two finger double To keep voiceover and stop music playing. That always works for me. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Esther, as per usual, you are full of lengthy, sound advice. There are a couple things to add here. My Fire 2 app dies as soon as I open it. It not only dies, but the screen is frozen, so nothing can be acted upon. I have had sighted assistance look at what happens and nothing we do changes anything. Now, this might be different on other people’s devices. If, however, you have my problem, I would suggest that you turn VoiceOver off before you open the app. Then follow Esther’s very concise instructions. On the other hand, if your app does not die right away, her instructions can likely be followed to the letter. Let’s hope Rode brings back the functionality of this app. Thanks again Esther. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2, Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with VoiceOver. The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering. They announced this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd. If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to sync this across to your device, you can still use the app. There's also a clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration screen. It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the Recordings List Configure Input button in the bottom left corner of the Recordings screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the same Recordings screen. So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the following when you start a new recording: 1. Double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the Recordings screen. This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double tapped the Recordings List Configure Input button. However, focus will be on the Cancel, back button, so double tap to get out of the configuration screen. 2. You'll be taken back to the Recordings screen, still without VoiceOver audio. Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the last element of the screen, which is the Recordings List Add button, and then double tap. 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, and should be able to record normally. If you don't have the Record button, navigate to the Settings button at the bottom of the screen and double tap. Navigate to Transport and make sure that Button Controls switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to on. Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual. Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the Recordings List Add button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app is open without losing VoiceOver. But if you close the app, you'll have to go through this again to start your recordings. I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe. If you want to save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen, after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen. Neal can probably tell you whether this is selected by default. If you want to save this setting
Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
Thanks, Ben, That sequence of two finger double taps is simpler to get VoiceOver back in FiRe 2, and worked for me! Cheers, Esther On Friday, July 12, 2013 12:05:04 PM UTC-10, ben blatchford wrote: What I do is when I double tap the add button and VoiceOver dies, I doubletap with two fingers to bring VoiceOber back on and I do another two finger double To keep voiceover and stop music playing. That always works for me. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Neal Ewers wrote: Esther, as per usual, you are full of lengthy, sound advice. There are a couple things to add here. My Fire 2 app dies as soon as I open it. It not only dies, but the screen is frozen, so nothing can be acted upon. I have had sighted assistance look at what happens and nothing we do changes anything. Now, this might be different on other people’s devices. If, however, you have my problem, I would suggest that you turn VoiceOver off before you open the app. Then follow Esther’s very concise instructions. On the other hand, if your app does not die right away, her instructions can likely be followed to the letter. Let’s hope Rode brings back the functionality of this app. Thanks again Esther. Neal From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:06 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2, Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with VoiceOver. The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering. They announced this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd. If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to sync this across to your device, you can still use the app. There's also a clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration screen. It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the Recordings List Configure Input button in the bottom left corner of the Recordings screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the same Recordings screen. So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the following when you start a new recording: 1. Double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the Recordings screen. This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double tapped the Recordings List Configure Input button. However, focus will be on the Cancel, back button, so double tap to get out of the configuration screen. 2. You'll be taken back to the Recordings screen, still without VoiceOver audio. Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the last element of the screen, which is the Recordings List Add button, and then double tap. 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, and should be able to record normally. If you don't have the Record button, navigate to the Settings button at the bottom of the screen and double tap. Navigate to Transport and make sure that Button Controls switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to on. Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual. Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the Recordings List Add button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app is open without losing VoiceOver. But if you close the app, you'll have to go through this again to start your recordings. I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe. If you want to save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen, after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen. Neal can probably tell you whether this is selected by default. If you want to save this setting, and it is selected by default, just flick twice to the right and double tap. You're moving from the default focus of the Cancel button at the top left of the configure screen, to the screen heading, and then to the Save button. Again, you'll be at the Recordings screen
Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
Your welcome. Glad I could help. Thanks, Ben Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Thanks, Ben, That sequence of two finger double taps is simpler to get VoiceOver back in FiRe 2, and worked for me! Cheers, Esther On Friday, July 12, 2013 12:05:04 PM UTC-10, ben blatchford wrote: What I do is when I double tap the add button and VoiceOver dies, I doubletap with two fingers to bring VoiceOber back on and I do another two finger double To keep voiceover and stop music playing. That always works for me. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Neal Ewers wrote: Esther, as per usual, you are full of lengthy, sound advice. There are a couple things to add here. My Fire 2 app dies as soon as I open it. It not only dies, but the screen is frozen, so nothing can be acted upon. I have had sighted assistance look at what happens and nothing we do changes anything. Now, this might be different on other people’s devices. If, however, you have my problem, I would suggest that you turn VoiceOver off before you open the app. Then follow Esther’s very concise instructions. On the other hand, if your app does not die right away, her instructions can likely be followed to the letter. Let’s hope Rode brings back the functionality of this app. Thanks again Esther. Neal From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:06 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2, Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with VoiceOver. The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering. They announced this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd. If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to sync this across to your device, you can still use the app. There's also a clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration screen. It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the Recordings List Configure Input button in the bottom left corner of the Recordings screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the same Recordings screen. So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the following when you start a new recording: 1. Double tap the Recordings List Add button in the bottom right corner of the Recordings screen. This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double tapped the Recordings List Configure Input button. However, focus will be on the Cancel, back button, so double tap to get out of the configuration screen. 2. You'll be taken back to the Recordings screen, still without VoiceOver audio. Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the last element of the screen, which is the Recordings List Add button, and then double tap. 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, and should be able to record normally. If you don't have the Record button, navigate to the Settings button at the bottom of the screen and double tap. Navigate to Transport and make sure that Button Controls switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to on. Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual. Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the Recordings List Add button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app is open without losing VoiceOver. But if you close the app, you'll have to go through this again to start your recordings. I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe. If you want to save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen, after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen. Neal can probably tell you whether this is selected by default. If you want to save this setting, and it is selected by default, just flick twice to the right and double tap. You're moving from the default focus of the Cancel button at the top
