subject:"SuperSense\?"

2020-12-23 Thread 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone

I think you nailed it. Dan must have grabbed the wrong app. Here is the link to 
the right Supersense AI:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supersense-ai-for-blind/id1484547836


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:


I wonder if this person has the wrong Super Sense.  When I searched for Super 
Sense, I noticed that there were two apps called Super Sense.  One was called 
Super Sense and the other is Super Sense AI.  You want Super Sense AI.  I got 
the other app first and I was asked about Bluetooth.  After I downloaded the 
correct app, I was not asked about Bluetooth.

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From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:59:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

can someone please explain what screen recognition or voiceover recognition is 
and how it is supposed to be useful? I must’ve missed an earlier explanation of 
this.

Thank you. Keith

> On Dec 23, 2020, at 10:05 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Screen recognition is almost useless nowadays, Apple has to do a lot of work 
> on it.
>
> For 90% of the times it makes apps and even the ios useless. I am convinced 
> about the good intentions they're having with the feature but it is in a very 
> very beginners stage.
> And I am sure that now there will be apps that include more recognition when 
> one test them out with the feature enabled but all of the somewhat 
> inaccessible apps on my phone get completely useless wen embedding this 
> feature.
> Davy
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: woensdag 23 december 2020 16:50
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
>
> Malcolm is correct.
> I just retested with screen recognition on and nothing other than the menu 
> button speaks correctly.
> Here's hoping this is resolved in 14.4 when it comes out.
>
>
>
> Richard, in the U.S.
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, 
> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cf9d87f10b1f44d936ca308d8a7c0db7c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637443794048197820%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=YPg58%2FUuhz9iJw%2BZIOD2HbcBTZyuHz7ecFnCUGPA7AM%3D=0>
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
>
> Supersense is unusable with Screen Recognition on using my iPhone XR.
>
> All I get is the Menu button spoken then just Button as I swipe Around the 
> screen.
>
> So if anyone has problems with Supersense I would suggest you try turning off 
> Screen Recognition and see if your problems are solved.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:35, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shane,
>> Donna is talking about the new "feature" in iOS 14 for image and screen 
>> recognition, which is available on newer devices.
>> It is called VoiceOver Recognition in the VoiceOver settings and has a few 
>> options you can turn on and then if it is on the rotor, you can turn it on 
>> or off for different apps.
>> I've tried Supersense with and without them on and it seems to work fine 
>> either way.
>>
>> Dan's issue though I cannot test as I p

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

2020-12-23 Thread Ryan Mann

I wonder if this person has the wrong Super Sense.  When I searched for Super 
Sense, I noticed that there were two apps called Super Sense.  One was called 
Super Sense and the other is Super Sense AI.  You want Super Sense AI.  I got 
the other app first and I was asked about Bluetooth.  After I downloaded the 
correct app, I was not asked about Bluetooth.

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From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:59:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

can someone please explain what screen recognition or voiceover recognition is 
and how it is supposed to be useful? I must’ve missed an earlier explanation of 
this.

Thank you. Keith

> On Dec 23, 2020, at 10:05 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Screen recognition is almost useless nowadays, Apple has to do a lot of work 
> on it.
>
> For 90% of the times it makes apps and even the ios useless. I am convinced 
> about the good intentions they're having with the feature but it is in a very 
> very beginners stage.
> And I am sure that now there will be apps that include more recognition when 
> one test them out with the feature enabled but all of the somewhat 
> inaccessible apps on my phone get completely useless wen embedding this 
> feature.
> Davy
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: woensdag 23 december 2020 16:50
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
>
> Malcolm is correct.
> I just retested with screen recognition on and nothing other than the menu 
> button speaks correctly.
> Here's hoping this is resolved in 14.4 when it comes out.
>
>
>
> Richard, in the U.S.
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
> •
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
>
> Supersense is unusable with Screen Recognition on using my iPhone XR.
>
> All I get is the Menu button spoken then just Button as I swipe Around the 
> screen.
>
> So if anyone has problems with Supersense I would suggest you try turning off 
> Screen Recognition and see if your problems are solved.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:35, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shane,
>> Donna is talking about the new "feature" in iOS 14 for image and screen 
>> recognition, which is available on newer devices.
>> It is called VoiceOver Recognition in the VoiceOver settings and has a few 
>> options you can turn on and then if it is on the rotor, you can turn it on 
>> or off for different apps.
>> I've tried Supersense with and without them on and it seems to work fine 
>> either way.
>>
>> Dan's issue though I cannot test as I probably said yes to its asking about 
>> Bluetooth devices in case I was going to use Bluetooth earphones or another 
>> device down the road.
>> If saying no to this option actually cripples Supersense and Bluetooth, that 
>> is a problem.
>>
>> I'd be surprised if it is, but if you can start fresh and install it and say 
>> no to its wanting access to Bluetooth devices, you can see if that is a 
>> universal problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>> • I’m not the card shark
>> • My web site,
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C8e5560701ebc4c7acffc08d8a7597a99%7
>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6374433500

RE: Supersense Smart Scan likes ten dollar bills

2020-12-23 Thread Deb Cook Lewis

I’ve seen this too, and forgot to mention it. Maybe it’s contemplating charging 
for the scan? LOL. In my case it seems to happen when the light is not direct 
so that might be a clue.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense Smart Scan likes ten dollar bills

 

Hi Shane and all,

I was experimenting with the Smart scan mode on some items in the kitchen.  I 
was trying to figure out if there was any way to get expiration dates reliably.

 

I had a half gallon jug of milk on the counter and as I was moving the camera 
around, a couple of times it said Ten dollars… there is nothing around there 
that says ten dollars or looks like a ten dollar bill.

 

I was then on the other side of the kitchen testing it on can labels and 
comparing to Seeing AI, when it again said ten dollars, a couple of times.

 

I double checked with my wife and we do not have any ten dollar bills lying 
around or anything with those words on it.

 

Just thought you might like to know.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site, www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

can someone please explain what screen recognition or voiceover recognition is 
and how it is supposed to be useful? I must’ve missed an earlier explanation of 
this.

Thank you. Keith

> On Dec 23, 2020, at 10:05 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Screen recognition is almost useless nowadays, Apple has to do a lot of work 
> on it.
> 
> For 90% of the times it makes apps and even the ios useless. I am convinced 
> about the good intentions they're having with the feature but it is in a very 
> very beginners stage.
> And I am sure that now there will be apps that include more recognition when 
> one test them out with the feature enabled but all of the somewhat 
> inaccessible apps on my phone get completely useless wen embedding this 
> feature.
> Davy 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: woensdag 23 december 2020 16:50
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
> 
> Malcolm is correct.
> I just retested with screen recognition on and nothing other than the menu 
> button speaks correctly.
> Here's hoping this is resolved in 14.4 when it comes out.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, www.turner42.com
> •
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
> 
> Supersense is unusable with Screen Recognition on using my iPhone XR.
> 
> All I get is the Menu button spoken then just Button as I swipe Around the 
> screen.
> 
> So if anyone has problems with Supersense I would suggest you try turning off 
> Screen Recognition and see if your problems are solved.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:35, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Shane,
>> Donna is talking about the new "feature" in iOS 14 for image and screen 
>> recognition, which is available on newer devices.
>> It is called VoiceOver Recognition in the VoiceOver settings and has a few 
>> options you can turn on and then if it is on the rotor, you can turn it on 
>> or off for different apps.
>> I've tried Supersense with and without them on and it seems to work fine 
>> either way.
>> 
>> Dan's issue though I cannot test as I probably said yes to its asking about 
>> Bluetooth devices in case I was going to use Bluetooth earphones or another 
>> device down the road.
>> If saying no to this option actually cripples Supersense and Bluetooth, that 
>> is a problem.
>> 
>> I'd be surprised if it is, but if you can start fresh and install it and say 
>> no to its wanting access to Bluetooth devices, you can see if that is a 
>> universal problem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> • I’m not the card shark
>> • My web site,
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shane Lowe
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
>> 
>> Donna, thanks for a solution to this!
>> I am unfamiliar with this issue, could you please give me more details so I 
>> can better h

Supersense Smart Scan likes ten dollar bills

Hi Shane and all,
I was experimenting with the Smart scan mode on some items in the kitchen.  I 
was trying to figure out if there was any way to get expiration dates reliably.

I had a half gallon jug of milk on the counter and as I was moving the camera 
around, a couple of times it said Ten dollars... there is nothing around there 
that says ten dollars or looks like a ten dollar bill.

I was then on the other side of the kitchen testing it on can labels and 
comparing to Seeing AI, when it again said ten dollars, a couple of times.

I double checked with my wife and we do not have any ten dollar bills lying 
around or anything with those words on it.

Just thought you might like to know.





Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I'm not the card shark
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Re: Supersense first impressions.

It did get my dish washer, I pointed it at myself and it said “human face”.

When I was living with my now ex-wife I used to say I had hands like gold fish, 
always in the bowl.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 21:54, Holly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard:
>  
> Yes, when I first used it, it did very poorly at identifying objects.  I just 
> didn’t know if it had been improved, or not.  Obviously, if it hasn’t been 
> updated in three years, there are surely better apps out there now.
>  
> I will have to give Super Sense a try.
>  
> Thanks.
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Re: Supersense first impressions.

2020-12-23 Thread Holly

Richard:

Yes, when I first used it, it did very poorly at identifying objects.  I just 
didn’t know if it had been improved, or not.  Obviously, if it hasn’t been 
updated in three years, there are surely better apps out there now.

I will have to give Super Sense a try.

Thanks.

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RE: Supersense first impressions.

I just re-downloaded AIPoly vision.
It thought my sink was a toaster.
My dishwasher it thought was a close dryer.
It kept saying different things for the same object if I held the phone steady 
on one thing.
It has not been updated for 3 years and has an in-app purchase of $4.99 for 
full access.
Frankly, I wouldn't use it for free.
Object recognition will get better with all these apps I'm sure, but the main 
things I would use a scanner for is reading, currency identification, and 
product lookup.  Especially by barcodes and especially if expiration dates were 
included which they do not seem to be in most barcodes, and finding that info 
on the label is very difficult.

Everyone should forget about using an iPhone camera for color as it is highly 
dependent on lighting and the same color will be reported as widely different 
colors depending on the lighting.
You need a dedicated hardware device for colors in my opinion based on many 
years of experience.




Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I'm not the card shark
  *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

I haven't tried this app yet, but was wondering if anyone has compared it to 
Aipoly Vision, which is free for Apple products.

It will identify objects, colors, recognize animals, plants, food, currency, 
etc..

I have had it on my phone for a couple of years, but haven't used it lately and 
not sure if it has been improved .

Here is the link to more info.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aipoly-vision-sight-for-blind-visually-impaired/id1069166437#?platform=iphone<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Faipoly-vision-sight-for-blind-visually-impaired%2Fid1069166437%23%3Fplatform%3Diphone=04%7C01%7C%7Cb74d923c7c49429c8fc208d8a7879af3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637443548141473063%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=a9KMNsaehlc%2B3aNz8Xsz6smvyPHKyXEQfDrYrD5aKjA%3D=0>
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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

It did get my dish washer, I pointed it at myself and it said “human face”.

When I was living with my now ex-wife I used to say I had hands like gold fish, 
always in the bowl.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 21:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about the Explore mode?
> 
> Yes, it is a bit limited.
> It did not identify my stove or dishwasher either.
> It did after a little bit identify the sink.
> 
> But, I then used TapTapSee and it did not do much better.
> It did get the dishwasher.  It took multiple tries to get the sink and it 
> only got the stove when I pointed it at the top with the burners.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, www.turner42.com
> • 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
> N.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
> subscription
> 
> I tried out the object recognition last night and it was pretty bad. It 
> called my kitchen sink a bathtub, did not recognize either the stove or the 
> dishwasher, or many other items I tried. At this point I would have to say it 
> is not helpful.
> Marie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shane Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
> subscription
> 
> Malcolm,
> Thanks so much for giving the app a try! I am currently in conversation with 
> our developers about the bugs and issues you've reported, and am looking into 
> whether or not we have a size limit on pdf documents. We definitely shouldn't!
> 
> Richard,
> We are also working on the setting for you regarding Supersense setting to be 
> stopped by default. That should be released soon!
> 
> Fazil,
> I would appreciate it very much if you could let us know how we can improve 
> Supersense for you! I'd be happy to take any issues you are having to the 
> developers, since our goal is to constantly make the app the best it can be.
> 
> Thank you all!
> 
>> On 12/23/20, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> How much is this?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Doug,
>>> Read the description here:
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps
>>> .apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fsupersense-ai-for-blind%2Fid1484547836da
>>> ta=04%7C01%7C%7Cbcd326b2a06f4f91161f08d8a76448c4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb4
>>> 35%7C1%7C0%7C637443396450671733%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
>>> yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1
>>> 000sdata=%2Fhf9ijJHGnTxnZrzN%2B5zHSON7GvWCWELOa2I67bitnY%3D
>>> reserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped 
>>> in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what 
>>> my mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> What is supersense?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
>>>> time subscription
>>>> 
>>>> You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they 
>>>> charge for free matter shipping which I don't think is right.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> O

Re: Supersense first impressions.

2020-12-23 Thread Holly

I haven’t tried this app yet, but was wondering if anyone has compared it to 
Aipoly Vision, which is free for Apple products.

It will identify objects, colors, recognize animals, plants, food, currency, 
etc..

I have had it on my phone for a couple of years, but haven’t used it lately and 
not sure if it has been improved .

Here is the link to more info.  

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aipoly-vision-sight-for-blind-visually-impaired/id1069166437#?platform=iphone

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RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

Are you talking about the Explore mode?

Yes, it is a bit limited.
It did not identify my stove or dishwasher either.
It did after a little bit identify the sink.

But, I then used TapTapSee and it did not do much better.
It did get the dishwasher.  It took multiple tries to get the sink and it only 
got the stove when I pointed it at the top with the burners.




Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
• 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

I tried out the object recognition last night and it was pretty bad. It called 
my kitchen sink a bathtub, did not recognize either the stove or the 
dishwasher, or many other items I tried. At this point I would have to say it 
is not helpful.
Marie

-Original Message-
From: Shane Lowe
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Malcolm,
Thanks so much for giving the app a try! I am currently in conversation with 
our developers about the bugs and issues you've reported, and am looking into 
whether or not we have a size limit on pdf documents. We definitely shouldn't!

Richard,
We are also working on the setting for you regarding Supersense setting to be 
stopped by default. That should be released soon!

Fazil,
I would appreciate it very much if you could let us know how we can improve 
Supersense for you! I'd be happy to take any issues you are having to the 
developers, since our goal is to constantly make the app the best it can be.

Thank you all!

On 12/23/20, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  wrote:
> How much is this?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Doug,
>> Read the description here:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps
>> .apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fsupersense-ai-for-blind%2Fid1484547836da
>> ta=04%7C01%7C%7Cbcd326b2a06f4f91161f08d8a76448c4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb4
>> 35%7C1%7C0%7C637443396450671733%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
>> yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1
>> 000sdata=%2Fhf9ijJHGnTxnZrzN%2B5zHSON7GvWCWELOa2I67bitnY%3D
>> reserved=0
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped 
>> in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what 
>> my mother told me when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:
>>>>
>>> What is supersense?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
>>> time subscription
>>>
>>> You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they 
>>> charge for free matter shipping which I don't think is right.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
>>> time subscription
>>>
>>> Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't 
>>> bother doing books.
>>>
>>> As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.
>>>
>>> I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the 
>>> FOPYDO stand, or if he has just had to stop selling them directly 
>>> due to his stupid post office requiring too many hoops to allow him 
>>> to send free matter for the blind.
>>> At one point, he was going

Scanner Bin and Supersense,

Malcolm asked is the ScannerBin a better scanner. Well, I think the FOPYDO is 
more versitile and easier to transport. But the ScannerBin works great too, but 
I'd say it is less versitile as it has only one height, and while you can 
collapse it for travel, it is not as easy to do that.
Here is the video instructions for a user who is blind made by the creator of 
the ScannerBin to help get more of an idea about it.
https://youtu.be/GdrzzbgEyWY



Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

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Re: Supersense first impressions.

2020-12-23 Thread Lelia Struve

Hi everyone, I hope you all have a merry Christmas. So I used this app to read 
some mail. I also used the Seeing a i app.  Now when I say I read mail, I 
usually just read the envelopes. The seeing a I app is the one I got better 
results from. I am going to try reading barcodes with both apps as well. I will 
let you all know what I find out.  I did actually open one piece of mail and 
again reading the document I got better results with the seeing a i  app.  I 
know that the developers for these apps are on the email list so I want to let 
you guys know that I am not at all, saying anything bad about any app. I am 
just giving my opinion on my comparisons. I hope you don’t take what I am 
saying in a bad way.

Thank you so much for developing these apps.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Cannot find it here in the UK, is it a better scanner?  Is it worth having 
> both in your opinion?
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 17:00, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  I got it from Amazon, which is his main seller. Try searching for it as 
>> one word on Amazon UK and see if it shows up. There is also a video on 
>> youtube explaining to someone who is blind how to set it up. If I can find 
>> that video I'll send a link. 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play.
>>> 
>>> Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from?  I’m in the UK any 
>>> information welcome.
>>> 
>>> Thanks Richard for all your efforts.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is 
>>>> usually correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, 
>>>> see below.
>>>>  
>>>> Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with 
>>>> a document in the bottom.
>>>> Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to 
>>>> have a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
>>>> That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
>>>> tactile ruler.
>>>>  
>>>> Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same 
>>>> document in the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document 
>>>> twice before it went ahead and took the picture.
>>>>  
>>>> Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I 
>>>> was using.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>>>  
>>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>>> when I was young."
>>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>>  
>>>> I’m not the card shark
>>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>>>>  
>>>> You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to 
>>>> get it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense 
>>>> does.  Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take 
>>>> picture button as far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the 
>>>> page.
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at

Re: Supersense first impressions.

Cannot find it here in the UK, is it a better scanner?  Is it worth having both 
in your opinion?

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 17:00, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  I got it from Amazon, which is his main seller. Try searching for it as one 
> word on Amazon UK and see if it shows up. There is also a video on youtube 
> explaining to someone who is blind how to set it up. If I can find that video 
> I'll send a link. 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play.
>> 
>> Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from?  I’m in the UK any 
>> information welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks Richard for all your efforts.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is 
>>> usually correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, 
>>> see below.
>>>  
>>> Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with 
>>> a document in the bottom.
>>> Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to 
>>> have a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
>>> That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
>>> tactile ruler.
>>>  
>>> Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same document 
>>> in the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document twice 
>>> before it went ahead and took the picture.
>>>  
>>> Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I 
>>> was using.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>>  
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>  
>>> I’m not the card shark
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>>>  
>>> You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to 
>>> get it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense 
>>> does.  Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take 
>>> picture button as far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
>>> I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell 
>>> them again.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>>  
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>  
>>> I’m not the card shark
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> malc...@parfitt1.org.uk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.
>>>

Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense

2020-12-23 Thread Cara Quinn

Hi Shane,

Fair enough. :) thanks very much for your response and for checking into that. 
I really appreciate it.

When LookTel was considering using google Analytics to help enhance customer 
experience, we ended up deciding against it because even though the provided 
data was supposed to be anonymized, it still gave us the customer's city, so we 
opted not to use analytics of any kind.

Since the blind and visually impaired population is so small, relatively, even 
having the city of a customer is often-times enough to identify that person.

So this is part of the reason for my questions.

Thanks so much Shane, and will look forward to what you find out.

cheers and happy holidays!

Cara



> On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Cara,
> Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns.
> I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate,
> which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our
> developers last week! :)
> 
> I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but I
> have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I will
> cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you the
> most accurate info. Stay tuned!
> 
> 
> On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to
>> know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well.
>> 
>> Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very
>> impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app.
>> 
>> I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed
>> to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each
>> AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set
>> to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would
>> be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration
>> to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and
>> hope it helps.
>> 
>> OK so now on to my issue and questions;
>> 
>> I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly,
>> I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The
>> button just does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if
>> this may be an issue with the app’s UI with VO?
>> 
>> This takes me to my privacy questions;
>> 
>> Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the
>> privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that I
>> have questions on.
>> 
>> I’ll post the two relevant sections here, followed by my questions:
>> 
>> 1 Information Collection and Use
>> For a better experience, while using our Service, we may require you to
>> provide us with certain personally identifiable information, including but
>> not limited to email addresses, in addition to text data and image data. The
>> personally identifiable  information that we request will be retained by us
>> and used as described in this privacy policy. The anonymized data that is
>> collected throughout the application may be used in collaboration with
>> universities for academic purposes to assist our customer community.
>> The app does use third party services that may collect information used to
>> identify you.
>> Link to privacy policy of third party service providers used by the app
>> - Google Play Services
>> - Firebase Analytics
>> - Crashlytics
>> Log Data
>> 
>> 2 Service Providers
>> We may employ third-party companies and individuals due to the following
>> reasons:
>> - To facilitate our Service;
>> - To provide the Service on our behalf;
>> - To perform Service-related services; or
>> - To assist us in analyzing how our Service is used.
>> We want to inform users of this Service that these third parties have access
>> to your Personal Information. The reason is to perform the tasks assigned to
>> them on our behalf. However, they are obligated not to disclose or use the
>> information for any other purpose.
>> 
>> So in section 1 above, you mention that text and image data may be
>> collected. Does this mean that people should not use this app for reading
>> credit card numbers and sensitive personal information?
>> 
>> In section 2, similarly to section 1, you mention that third parties or
>> individuals also may have access to personally identifiable information.
>> Will folks be alerted to this personaly identifiable data being shared and
>> have the chance to get more information on each instance or opt out?
>> 
>> Thanks so much Shane and I’m very interested in your responses to these
>> questions as I am really looking forward to using this app with the lifetime
>> subscription with privacy and such preserved.
>> 
>> Thanks a bunch and please let me wish you and yours a lovely and safe
>> holiday season and great new year!
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Cara
>> 
>> --
>> The following information

Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-23 Thread Marie N.

I tried out the object recognition last night and it was pretty bad. It 
called my kitchen sink a bathtub, did not recognize either the stove or the 
dishwasher, or many other items I tried. At this point I would have to say 
it is not helpful.

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Shane Lowe

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription


Malcolm,
Thanks so much for giving the app a try! I am currently in
conversation with our developers about the bugs and issues you've
reported, and am looking into whether or not we have a size limit on
pdf documents. We definitely shouldn't!

Richard,
We are also working on the setting for you regarding Supersense
setting to be stopped by default. That should be released soon!

Fazil,
I would appreciate it very much if you could let us know how we can
improve Supersense for you! I'd be happy to take any issues you are
having to the developers, since our goal is to constantly make the app
the best it can be.

Thank you all!

On 12/23/20, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  wrote:

How much is this?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner 


wrote:

  Doug,
Read the description here:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supersense-ai-for-blind/id1484547836


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
asphyxiation

in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:


What is supersense?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
time

subscription

You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge 
for

free matter shipping which I don't think is right.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
time

subscription

Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't 
bother

doing books.

As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.

I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO
stand, or if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his
stupid post office requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free
matter for the blind.
At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence
Market.

As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan 
some

documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to
collapse and take with.
The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not
take as many repeat collapsing and setting up again.

I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf 
and

just pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.

HTH,



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site,
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
time

subscription

Hi richard,
Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked
that other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. 
I

guess he’s not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular
documents or books between super sense and voice dream scanner?


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner
 wrote:


Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!



Richard, in the U.S.

Re: Supersense first impressions.

I got it from Amazon, which is his main seller. Try searching for it as one 
word on Amazon UK and see if it shows up. There is also a video on youtube 
explaining to someone who is blind how to set it up. If I can find that video 
I'll send a link.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

 I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play.

Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from?  I’m in the UK any 
information welcome.

Thanks Richard for all your efforts.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner  wrote:


Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is usually 
correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, see below.

Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with a 
document in the bottom.
Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to have 
a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
tactile ruler.

Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same document in 
the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document twice before it 
went ahead and took the picture.

Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I was 
using.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C15924cb241854330591b08d8a75b5281%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637443357957157852%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=5uHb%2F5KaczmssoJ1CYqdG8WSRSy97No8wUcNoobe5IY%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to get 
it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense does.  
Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take picture button as 
far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell them 
again.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C15924cb241854330591b08d8a75b5281%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637443357957167850%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=DaCYYupg3vmOULgu8XDegWE1APHhGoumg6MzyuGXUPU%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.

Hello Richard,

I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.

Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
never got it to work.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com&g

Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-23 Thread Ann Byrne

I bought the lifetime subscription.  I absolutely 
love it that the app begins reading immediately!

At 08:59 AM 12/23/2020, you wrote:

Malcolm,
Thanks so much for giving the app a try! I am currently in
conversation with our developers about the bugs and issues you've
reported, and am looking into whether or not we have a size limit on
pdf documents. We definitely shouldn't!

Richard,
We are also working on the setting for you regarding Supersense
setting to be stopped by default. That should be released soon!

Fazil,
I would appreciate it very much if you could let us know how we can
improve Supersense for you! I'd be happy to take any issues you are
having to the developers, since our goal is to constantly make the app
the best it can be.

Thank you all!

On 12/23/20, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  wrote:
> How much is this?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ï»¿  Doug,
>> Read the description here:
>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supersense-ai-for-blind/id1484547836
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:
>>>>
>>> ï»¿What is supersense?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time
>>> subscription
>>>
>>> You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for
>>> free matter shipping which I don't think is right.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time
>>> subscription
>>>
>>> Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother
>>> doing books.
>>>
>>> As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.
>>>
>>> I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO
>>> stand, or if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his
>>> stupid post office requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free
>>> matter for the blind.
>>> At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence
>>> Market.
>>>
>>> As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
>>> The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
>>> But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some
>>> documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to
>>> collapse and take with.
>>> The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not
>>> take as many repeat collapsing and setting up again.
>>>
>>> I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and
>>> just pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>>
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
>>> mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>
>>> • Iâ€™m not the card shark
>>> • My web site,
>>> 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ccac994456dd249cdfc9f08d8a6f455a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442915624838922%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=q7HJRzE5MNrIC2kGltZtcmCppSQrlB0TnQuIPv5aVy4%3Dreserved=0

>>> •
>>> -Original Message

RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

2020-12-23 Thread davycuppens

Screen recognition is almost useless nowadays, Apple has to do a lot of work on 
it.

For 90% of the times it makes apps and even the ios useless. I am convinced 
about the good intentions they're having with the feature but it is in a very 
very beginners stage.
And I am sure that now there will be apps that include more recognition when 
one test them out with the feature enabled but all of the somewhat inaccessible 
apps on my phone get completely useless wen embedding this feature.
Davy 
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: woensdag 23 december 2020 16:50
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

Malcolm is correct.
I just retested with screen recognition on and nothing other than the menu 
button speaks correctly.
Here's hoping this is resolved in 14.4 when it comes out.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
•
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

Supersense is unusable with Screen Recognition on using my iPhone XR.

All I get is the Menu button spoken then just Button as I swipe Around the 
screen.

So if anyone has problems with Supersense I would suggest you try turning off 
Screen Recognition and see if your problems are solved.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:35, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Shane,
> Donna is talking about the new "feature" in iOS 14 for image and screen 
> recognition, which is available on newer devices.
> It is called VoiceOver Recognition in the VoiceOver settings and has a few 
> options you can turn on and then if it is on the rotor, you can turn it on or 
> off for different apps.
> I've tried Supersense with and without them on and it seems to work fine 
> either way.
> 
> Dan's issue though I cannot test as I probably said yes to its asking about 
> Bluetooth devices in case I was going to use Bluetooth earphones or another 
> device down the road.
> If saying no to this option actually cripples Supersense and Bluetooth, that 
> is a problem.
> 
> I'd be surprised if it is, but if you can start fresh and install it and say 
> no to its wanting access to Bluetooth devices, you can see if that is a 
> universal problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site,
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C8e5560701ebc4c7acffc08d8a7597a99%7
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> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tZvKVtLOVZ0ZQowqybdBkxuI6QPtrxRzsYRjwU3
> Wg3I%3Dreserved=0
> •
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shane Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
> 
> Donna, thanks for a solution to this!
> I am unfamiliar with this issue, could you please give me more details so I 
> can better help anyone in the future who reports it?
> 
> 
>> On 12/23/20, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> Turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn off. Do the same 
>> for image description. Always check these 2 settings when installing a new 
>> app.
>> The settings are on by default.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I put it on my SE 2020 and started it.  It of course came up with 
>>> the setup settings.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It asked for access to bluetooth and I told it no.  I do not see why 
>>> it would need bluetooth access, I don't have any bluetooth devices 
>>> it would use.

Re: Supersense first impressions.

I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play.

Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from?  I’m in the UK any 
information welcome.

Thanks Richard for all your efforts.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is 
> usually correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, 
> see below.
>  
> Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with a 
> document in the bottom.
> Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to 
> have a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
> That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
> tactile ruler.
>  
> Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same document 
> in the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document twice before 
> it went ahead and took the picture.
>  
> Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I was 
> using.
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to get 
> it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense does.  
> Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take picture button 
> as far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
> I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell 
> them again.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> malc...@parfitt1.org.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> Hello Richard,
>  
> I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.
>  
> Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
> not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
> never got it to work.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> Malcolm,
> Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> 
> On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote:
> 
> 
> I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest 
> release of IOS.
>  
> Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single 
> page document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and 
> having followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on 
> the page was clipped.
> The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
> and Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
> Having setup the st

RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

Malcolm is correct.
I just retested with screen recognition on and nothing other than the menu 
button speaks correctly.
Here's hoping this is resolved in 14.4 when it comes out.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
• 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

Supersense is unusable with Screen Recognition on using my iPhone XR.

All I get is the Menu button spoken then just Button as I swipe Around the 
screen.

So if anyone has problems with Supersense I would suggest you try turning off 
Screen Recognition and see if your problems are solved.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:35, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Shane,
> Donna is talking about the new "feature" in iOS 14 for image and screen 
> recognition, which is available on newer devices.
> It is called VoiceOver Recognition in the VoiceOver settings and has a few 
> options you can turn on and then if it is on the rotor, you can turn it on or 
> off for different apps.
> I've tried Supersense with and without them on and it seems to work fine 
> either way.
> 
> Dan's issue though I cannot test as I probably said yes to its asking about 
> Bluetooth devices in case I was going to use Bluetooth earphones or another 
> device down the road.
> If saying no to this option actually cripples Supersense and Bluetooth, that 
> is a problem.
> 
> I'd be surprised if it is, but if you can start fresh and install it and say 
> no to its wanting access to Bluetooth devices, you can see if that is a 
> universal problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shane Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
> 
> Donna, thanks for a solution to this!
> I am unfamiliar with this issue, could you please give me more details so I 
> can better help anyone in the future who reports it?
> 
> 
>> On 12/23/20, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> Turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn off. Do the same 
>> for image description. Always check these 2 settings when installing a new 
>> app.
>> The settings are on by default.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I put it on my SE 2020 and started it.  It of course came up with 
>>> the setup settings.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It asked for access to bluetooth and I told it no.  I do not see why 
>>> it would need bluetooth access, I don't have any bluetooth devices 
>>> it would use.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now it won't let me do anything and I can't even enable bluetooth.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am removing it from my phone until I can figure out how to get 
>>> past this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Supersense first impressions.

Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is usually 
correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, see below.

Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with a 
document in the bottom.
Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to have 
a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
tactile ruler.

Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same document in 
the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document twice before it 
went ahead and took the picture.

Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I was 
using.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to get 
it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense does.  
Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take picture button as 
far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell them 
again.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cf46ec51e064f4b4c93c508d8a757e0a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637443343160973847%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QrBzruF62KSYgiqhMeMjgCBMVBfVwSjt0BLL4EB6%2FWU%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.

Hello Richard,

I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.

Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
never got it to work.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

Malcolm,
Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped.
The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to

Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

Supersense is unusable with Screen Recognition on using my iPhone XR.

All I get is the Menu button spoken then just Button as I swipe Around the 
screen.

So if anyone has problems with Supersense I would suggest you try turning off 
Screen Recognition and see if your problems are solved.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:35, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Shane,
> Donna is talking about the new "feature" in iOS 14 for image and screen 
> recognition, which is available on newer devices.
> It is called VoiceOver Recognition in the VoiceOver settings and has a few 
> options you can turn on and then if it is on the rotor, you can turn it on or 
> off for different apps.
> I've tried Supersense with and without them on and it seems to work fine 
> either way.
> 
> Dan's issue though I cannot test as I probably said yes to its asking about 
> Bluetooth devices in case I was going to use Bluetooth earphones or another 
> device down the road.
> If saying no to this option actually cripples Supersense and Bluetooth, that 
> is a problem.
> 
> I'd be surprised if it is, but if you can start fresh and install it and say 
> no to its wanting access to Bluetooth devices, you can see if that is a 
> universal problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, www.turner42.com
> • 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
> Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled
> 
> Donna, thanks for a solution to this!
> I am unfamiliar with this issue, could you please give me more details so I 
> can better help anyone in the future who reports it?
> 
> 
>> On 12/23/20, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> Turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn off. Do the same 
>> for image description. Always check these 2 settings when installing a new 
>> app.
>> The settings are on by default.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I put it on my SE 2020 and started it.  It of course came up with the 
>>> setup settings.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It asked for access to bluetooth and I told it no.  I do not see why 
>>> it would need bluetooth access, I don't have any bluetooth devices it 
>>> would use.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now it won't let me do anything and I can't even enable bluetooth.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am removing it from my phone until I can figure out how to get past 
>>> this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

Hi Shane,
Donna is talking about the new "feature" in iOS 14 for image and screen 
recognition, which is available on newer devices.
It is called VoiceOver Recognition in the VoiceOver settings and has a few 
options you can turn on and then if it is on the rotor, you can turn it on or 
off for different apps.
I've tried Supersense with and without them on and it seems to work fine either 
way.

Dan's issue though I cannot test as I probably said yes to its asking about 
Bluetooth devices in case I was going to use Bluetooth earphones or another 
device down the road.
If saying no to this option actually cripples Supersense and Bluetooth, that is 
a problem.

I'd be surprised if it is, but if you can start fresh and install it and say no 
to its wanting access to Bluetooth devices, you can see if that is a universal 
problem.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
• 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
Lowe
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

Donna, thanks for a solution to this!
I am unfamiliar with this issue, could you please give me more details so I can 
better help anyone in the future who reports it?


On 12/23/20, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> Turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn off. Do the same 
> for image description. Always check these 2 settings when installing a new 
> app.
> The settings are on by default.
>
> Donna
>
>
>>
>> 
>> I put it on my SE 2020 and started it.  It of course came up with the 
>> setup settings.
>>
>>
>>
>> It asked for access to bluetooth and I told it no.  I do not see why 
>> it would need bluetooth access, I don't have any bluetooth devices it 
>> would use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now it won't let me do anything and I can't even enable bluetooth.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am removing it from my phone until I can figure out how to get past 
>> this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Supersense first impressions.

You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to get 
it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense does.  
Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take picture button as 
far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
> I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell 
> them again.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> malc...@parfitt1.org.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> Hello Richard,
>  
> I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.
>  
> Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
> not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
> never got it to work.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> Malcolm,
> Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> 
> On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote:
> 
> 
> I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest 
> release of IOS.
>  
> Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single 
> page document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and 
> having followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on 
> the page was clipped.
> The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
> and Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
> Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
> Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
> document.
>  
> Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a 
> document and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the 
> document with no text clipped.
>  
> Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors 
> and some text was clipped.
>  
> Prizmo Go too clipped some text.
>  
> I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.
>  
> Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.
>  
> This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from 
> mine.  This is just my initial finding.
>  
> I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
> with other apps where appropriate.
>  
> Malcolm
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RE: Supersense first impressions.

You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell them 
again.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.

Hello Richard,

I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.

Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
never got it to work.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

Malcolm,
Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped.
The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
document.

Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a document 
and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the document with 
no text clipped.

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors and 
some text was clipped.

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from mine. 
 This is just my initial finding.

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
with other apps where appropriate.

Malcolm
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Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

2020-12-23 Thread Shane Lowe

Donna, thanks for a solution to this!
I am unfamiliar with this issue, could you please give me more details
so I can better help anyone in the future who reports it?


On 12/23/20, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> Turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn off. Do the same for
> image description. Always check these 2 settings when installing a new app.
> The settings are on by default.
>
> Donna
>
>
>>
>> 
>> I put it on my SE 2020 and started it.  It of course came up with the
>> setup settings.
>>
>>
>>
>> It asked for access to bluetooth and I told it no.  I do not see why it
>> would need bluetooth access, I don't have any bluetooth devices it would
>> use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now it won't let me do anything and I can't even enable bluetooth.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am removing it from my phone until I can figure out how to get past
>> this.
>>
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Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense

2020-12-23 Thread Shane Lowe

Cara,
Thanks so much for reaching out with your suggestions and concerns.
I have noted down your suggestion about Supersense's speech rate,
which is particularly timely since I was discussing this with our
developers last week! :)

I believe I have the answers to both of your privacy questions, but I
have a call with our co-founder tomorrow morning, during which I will
cover them in detail so that I can make sure I am providing you the
most accurate info. Stay tuned!


On 12/22/20, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to
> know some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well.
>
> Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very
> impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app.
>
> I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed
> to manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each
> AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set
> to true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would
> be possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration
> to have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and
> hope it helps.
>
> OK so now on to my issue and questions;
>
> I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly,
> I’ve forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The
> button just does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if
> this may be an issue with the app’s UI with VO?
>
> This takes me to my privacy questions;
>
> Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the
> privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that I
> have questions on.
>
> I’ll post the two relevant sections here, followed by my questions:
>
> 1 Information Collection and Use
> For a better experience, while using our Service, we may require you to
> provide us with certain personally identifiable information, including but
> not limited to email addresses, in addition to text data and image data. The
> personally identifiable  information that we request will be retained by us
> and used as described in this privacy policy. The anonymized data that is
> collected throughout the application may be used in collaboration with
> universities for academic purposes to assist our customer community.
> The app does use third party services that may collect information used to
> identify you.
> Link to privacy policy of third party service providers used by the app
> - Google Play Services
> - Firebase Analytics
> - Crashlytics
> Log Data
>
> 2 Service Providers
> We may employ third-party companies and individuals due to the following
> reasons:
> - To facilitate our Service;
> - To provide the Service on our behalf;
> - To perform Service-related services; or
> - To assist us in analyzing how our Service is used.
> We want to inform users of this Service that these third parties have access
> to your Personal Information. The reason is to perform the tasks assigned to
> them on our behalf. However, they are obligated not to disclose or use the
> information for any other purpose.
>
> So in section 1 above, you mention that text and image data may be
> collected. Does this mean that people should not use this app for reading
> credit card numbers and sensitive personal information?
>
> In section 2, similarly to section 1, you mention that third parties or
> individuals also may have access to personally identifiable information.
> Will folks be alerted to this personaly identifiable data being shared and
> have the chance to get more information on each instance or opt out?
>
> Thanks so much Shane and I’m very interested in your responses to these
> questions as I am really looking forward to using this app with the lifetime
> subscription with privacy and such preserved.
>
> Thanks a bunch and please let me wish you and yours a lovely and safe
> holiday season and great new year!
>
> Cheers!
>
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Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

2020-12-23 Thread Donna Casteen

Turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn off. Do the same for image 
description. Always check these 2 settings when installing a new app. The 
settings are on by default.

Donna


> 
> 
> I put it on my SE 2020 and started it.  It of course came up with the setup 
> settings.
> 
> 
> 
> It asked for access to bluetooth and I told it no.  I do not see why it would 
> need bluetooth access, I don't have any bluetooth devices it would use.  
> 
> 
> 
> Now it won't let me do anything and I can't even enable bluetooth.
> 
> 
> 
> I am removing it from my phone until I can figure out how to get past this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled

2020-12-23 Thread Dan


  
  
I put it on my SE 2020 and started it.  It
of course came up with the setup settings.

  
It asked for access to bluetooth and I
told it no.  I do not see why it would need bluetooth access, I
don't have any bluetooth devices it would use.  
  

  
Now it won't let me do anything and I
can't even enable bluetooth.

  
I am removing it from my phone until I can
figure out how to get past this.

  


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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-23 Thread Shane Lowe

Malcolm,
Thanks so much for giving the app a try! I am currently in
conversation with our developers about the bugs and issues you've
reported, and am looking into whether or not we have a size limit on
pdf documents. We definitely shouldn't!

Richard,
We are also working on the setting for you regarding Supersense
setting to be stopped by default. That should be released soon!

Fazil,
I would appreciate it very much if you could let us know how we can
improve Supersense for you! I'd be happy to take any issues you are
having to the developers, since our goal is to constantly make the app
the best it can be.

Thank you all!

On 12/23/20, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  wrote:
> How much is this?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Doug,
>> Read the description here:
>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supersense-ai-for-blind/id1484547836
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:
>>>>
>>> What is supersense?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time
>>> subscription
>>>
>>> You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for
>>> free matter shipping which I don't think is right.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time
>>> subscription
>>>
>>> Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother
>>> doing books.
>>>
>>> As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.
>>>
>>> I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO
>>> stand, or if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his
>>> stupid post office requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free
>>> matter for the blind.
>>> At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence
>>> Market.
>>>
>>> As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
>>> The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
>>> But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some
>>> documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to
>>> collapse and take with.
>>> The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not
>>> take as many repeat collapsing and setting up again.
>>>
>>> I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and
>>> just pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>>
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
>>> mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>
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RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-23 Thread Albert Brown

Hello,
I have this app on my iPhone for about nine months never used it.
But hearing how good it is how can I get a trial for the app?
I am interested in getting the lifetime offer.




ALBERT

Jaws Home Eddition 2021
 
Operating System Windows 10 Home  (x64) Version 20H2 (build 19042.685)

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
Lowe
Sent: Tuesday 22 December 2020 19:39
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Richard,
I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth the price. 
Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and everyone on this 
list.

On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Greetings,
> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  It 
> has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do not 
> know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a 
> handwriting type script rather than block letters.
> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I 
> think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, Voice 
> Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made 
> me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to get 
> better in the future.
> Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
> Have courage for the great sorrows
>
> of Life,
>
> And patience for the small ones.
> And when you have laboriously
> Accomplished your daily task,
>
> Go to sleep in Peace
>
> Bod in dhowake.
> www.mediate.tech<http://www.mediate.tech>
>
> Richard, in the U.S.
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
> mother told me when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
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RE: Supersense first impressions.

2020-12-23 Thread malcolm

Hello Richard,

 

I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.

 

Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
never got it to work.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

 

Malcolm, 

Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk 
<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>  wrote:

 

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

 

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped. 

The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

 

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
document.

 

Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a document 
and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the document with 
no text clipped.

 

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors and 
some text was clipped.

 

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

 

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

 

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

 

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from mine. 
 This is just my initial finding.

 

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
with other apps where appropriate.

 

Malcolm

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RE: Supersense first impressions.

2020-12-23 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe

Hi Richard, I have seeing eye on my phone but I went to the app store and found 
no update for me.  Andy and Shubert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

Malcolm, 

Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote:

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped. 

The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
document.

Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a document 
and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the document with 
no text clipped.

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors and 
some text was clipped.

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from mine. 
 This is just my initial finding.

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
with other apps where appropriate.

Malcolm

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Re: Supersense first impressions.

Malcolm,
Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
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"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote:


I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped.
The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
document.

Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a document 
and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the document with 
no text clipped.

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors and 
some text was clipped.

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from mine. 
 This is just my initial finding.

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
with other apps where appropriate.

Malcolm

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Supersense first impressions.

2020-12-23 Thread malcolm

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest
release of IOS.

 

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single
page document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and
having followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on
the page was clipped. 

The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo
Go and Voice Dream Scanner.

 

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the
document.

 

Using Supersense's  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a
document and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the
document with no text clipped.

 

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors
and some text was clipped.

 

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

 

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

 

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

 

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from
mine.  This is just my initial finding.

 

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare
them with other apps where appropriate.

 

Malcolm

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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone

How much is this?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>   Doug,
> Read the description here:
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supersense-ai-for-blind/id1484547836
>  
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:
>>> 
>> What is supersense?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for 
>> free matter shipping which I don't think is right.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother 
>> doing books.
>> 
>> As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.
>> 
>> I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO stand, 
>> or if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his stupid post 
>> office requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free matter for the 
>> blind.
>> At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence Market.
>> 
>> As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
>> The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
>> But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some 
>> documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to collapse 
>> and take with.
>> The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not take 
>> as many repeat collapsing and setting up again.
>> 
>> I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and 
>> just pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> • I’m not the card shark
>> • My web site, 
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>> Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
>> other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess 
>> he’s not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents 
>> or books between super sense and voice dream scanner?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphy

Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

 Doug,
Read the description here:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supersense-ai-for-blind/id1484547836


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:

What is supersense?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for free 
matter shipping which I don't think is right.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother doing 
books.

As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.

I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO stand, or 
if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his stupid post office 
requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free matter for the blind.
At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence Market.

As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some 
documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to collapse and 
take with.
The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not take as 
many repeat collapsing and setting up again.

I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and just 
pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.

HTH,



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Hi richard,
Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess he’s 
not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents or books 
between super sense and voice dream scanner?


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cc453bb834c284dbc653008d8a6b51ff7%7
C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442644136597202%7CUnkno
wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Hv7LGoViXb0kYbwFq2%2BU8BrSq7uS9JUc%2FDS
QoR%2BFmJg%3Dreserved=0
•
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life
time subscription

Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you tried the 
app with any scanning stands?

I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am

Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Mary Otten

The scanner bin is on Amazon. And it’s cheap.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for 
> free matter shipping which I don't think is right.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
> subscription
> 
> Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother 
> doing books.
> 
> As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.
> 
> I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO stand, 
> or if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his stupid post 
> office requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free matter for the 
> blind.
> At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence Market.
> 
> As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
> The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
> But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some 
> documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to collapse 
> and take with.
> The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not take 
> as many repeat collapsing and setting up again.
> 
> I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and 
> just pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, www.turner42.com
> •
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
> subscription
> 
> Hi richard,
> Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
> other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess 
> he’s not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents 
> or books between super sense and voice dream scanner?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> • I’m not the card shark
>> • My web site,
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cc453bb834c284dbc653008d8a6b51ff7%7
>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637442644136597202%7CUnkno
>> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
>> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Hv7LGoViXb0kYbwFq2%2BU8BrSq7uS9JUc%2FDS
>> QoR%2BFmJg%3Dreserved=0
>> •
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
>> time subscription
>> 
>> Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you tried 
>> the app with any scanning stands?
>> 
>> I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am about to try my 
>> scanning stands.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 19:39, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard,
>>> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
>>> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth 
>>> the price. Thank you again,

RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Doug Sloan

What is supersense?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for free 
matter shipping which I don't think is right.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother doing 
books.

As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.

I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO stand, or 
if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his stupid post office 
requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free matter for the blind.
At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence Market.

As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some 
documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to collapse and 
take with.
The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not take as 
many repeat collapsing and setting up again.

I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and just 
pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.

HTH,

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
•
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Hi richard,
Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess he’s 
not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents or books 
between super sense and voice dream scanner?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site,
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cc453bb834c284dbc653008d8a6b51ff7%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442644136597202%7CUnkno
> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Hv7LGoViXb0kYbwFq2%2BU8BrSq7uS9JUc%2FDS
> QoR%2BFmJg%3Dreserved=0
> •
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
> time subscription
> 
> Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you tried 
> the app with any scanning stands?
> 
> I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am about to try my 
> scanning stands.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 19:39, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard,
>> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
>> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth 
>> the price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and 
>> everyone on this list.
>> 
>>>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  
>>> It has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who 
>>> do not know, is done with threa

RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Dennis Long

You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for free 
matter shipping which I don't think is right.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother doing 
books.

As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.

I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO stand, or 
if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his stupid post office 
requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free matter for the blind.
At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence Market.

As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some 
documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to collapse and 
take with.
The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not take as 
many repeat collapsing and setting up again.

I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and just 
pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.

HTH,

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
•
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Hi richard,
Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess he’s 
not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents or books 
between super sense and voice dream scanner?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site,
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cc453bb834c284dbc653008d8a6b51ff7%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442644136597202%7CUnkno
> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Hv7LGoViXb0kYbwFq2%2BU8BrSq7uS9JUc%2FDS
> QoR%2BFmJg%3Dreserved=0
> •
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
> time subscription
> 
> Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you tried 
> the app with any scanning stands?
> 
> I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am about to try my 
> scanning stands.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 19:39, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard,
>> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
>> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth 
>> the price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and 
>> everyone on this list.
>> 
>>>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  
>>> It has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who 
>>> do not know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more 
>>> of a handwriting type script rather than block letters.
>>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and 
>>> I think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, 
>>> Voice

RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Fazil

I have found Voice Dream Scanner much better and efficient than SS.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Have you tried that document with Voice Dream Scanner? Voice Dream was able to 
scan the Mueller report in about five minutes and it is 450 pages. I'll see if 
I still have it around in PDF and test Supersense with it.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Is there an upper limit as to what pdf files can be imported?
> 
> I have an image-based pdf file here around 3.7 megabytes that I simply cannot 
> recognise either via the Share Sheet or the Import pdf facility.
> 
> Sometimes when I import pdf files the recognised content is spoken in a voice 
> different from the one I select.
> 
> Incidentally Envision AI recognises the pdf file I referred to earlier.  It 
> is a document from The Royal Gwent hospital which they sent me prior to my 
> being admitted for surgery earlier this year.  The document has no relevance 
> now but I used it as an experiment.
> 
> 
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 21:18, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi shane,
>> I'm happy to give positive feedback where it is deserved.
>> 
>> I personally would put one change at the top of my priority list for 
>> Supersense.  Have an option to not have it start scanning as soon as you 
>> open the app.
>> Right now, you have to stop it, rather than start it.
>> I often open the app and then want to position the camera but with it 
>> rapidly trying to scan and sometimes firing off a scan before I'm ready, it 
>> is a little disconcerting.
>> Maybe with the Explore mode, it makes sense to have it going immediately.  
>> I'm not sure it is on the other modes.
>> 
>> Later,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> * I'm not the card shark
>> * My web site, 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C19320f45f7e4421fbe9d08d8a6c3fc95
>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442707971401874%7CUn
>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=IkqKo6PJZazQKUGVhharhNh2MFG3hz3Nj0
>> PaWq%2BdOVU%3Dreserved=0
>> *
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Shane Lowe
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
>> time subscription
>> 
>> Richard,
>> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
>> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth the 
>> price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and everyone 
>> on this list.
>> 
>>>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  
>>> It has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who 
>>> do not know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more 
>>> of a handwriting type script rather than block letters.
>>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and 
>>> I think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, 
>>> Voice Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
>>> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
>>> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly 
>>> made me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going

Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense

2020-12-22 Thread Cara Quinn

This one is mostly for Shane but I am posting here as others may wish to know 
some of my privacy questions (further down this note) as well.

Shane, first off, thank you for all your work on Super sense. I’m very 
impressed with a couple of features in particular in the app.

I’ll get to my questions on privacy below but first, I noticed that I needed to 
manually adjust the speech rate. It is actually possible to have each 
AVSpeechUtterance have its prefersAssistiveTechnologySettings property set to 
true so that it will use VoiceOver’s speech settings. This way it would be 
possible for folks not to need to set this. This might be a consideration to 
have as a setting that people may change if they like. Just a thought and hope 
it helps.

OK so now on to my issue and questions;

I seem not to be able to activate the Restore Purchase button. Honestly, I’ve 
forgotten if I purchased a subscription and wanted to check. :) The button just 
does not seem to want to activate though so I’m wondering if this may be an 
issue with the app’s UI with VO?

This takes me to my privacy questions;

Since I am considering the lifetime subscription, I was reading over the 
privacy policy and Terms of Service and noticed a couple of things that I have 
questions on.

I’ll post the two relevant sections here, followed by my questions:

1 Information Collection and Use
For a better experience, while using our Service, we may require you to provide 
us with certain personally identifiable information, including but not limited 
to email addresses, in addition to text data and image data. The personally 
identifiable  information that we request will be retained by us and used as 
described in this privacy policy. The anonymized data that is collected 
throughout the application may be used in collaboration with universities for 
academic purposes to assist our customer community.
The app does use third party services that may collect information used to 
identify you.
Link to privacy policy of third party service providers used by the app
- Google Play Services
- Firebase Analytics
- Crashlytics
Log Data

2 Service Providers
We may employ third-party companies and individuals due to the following 
reasons:
- To facilitate our Service;
- To provide the Service on our behalf;
- To perform Service-related services; or
- To assist us in analyzing how our Service is used.
We want to inform users of this Service that these third parties have access to 
your Personal Information. The reason is to perform the tasks assigned to them 
on our behalf. However, they are obligated not to disclose or use the 
information for any other purpose.

So in section 1 above, you mention that text and image data may be collected. 
Does this mean that people should not use this app for reading credit card 
numbers and sensitive personal information?

In section 2, similarly to section 1, you mention that third parties or 
individuals also may have access to personally identifiable information. Will 
folks be alerted to this personaly identifiable data being shared and have the 
chance to get more information on each instance or opt out?

Thanks so much Shane and I’m very interested in your responses to these 
questions as I am really looking forward to using this app with the lifetime 
subscription with privacy and such preserved.

Thanks a bunch and please let me wish you and yours a lovely and safe holiday 
season and great new year!

Cheers!

Cara

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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Malcolm Parfitt

Yes, just tried it and it worked fine.  Only 22 pages and OCR was completed in 
a couple of seconds.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2020, at 22:52, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried that document with Voice Dream Scanner? Voice Dream was able 
> to scan the Mueller report in about five minutes and it is 450 pages. I'll 
> see if I still have it around in PDF and test Supersense with it.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Is there an upper limit as to what pdf files can be imported?
>> 
>> I have an image-based pdf file here around 3.7 megabytes that I simply 
>> cannot recognise either via the Share Sheet or the Import pdf facility.
>> 
>> Sometimes when I import pdf files the recognised content is spoken in a 
>> voice different from the one I select.
>> 
>> Incidentally Envision AI recognises the pdf file I referred to earlier.  It 
>> is a document from The Royal Gwent hospital which they sent me prior to my 
>> being admitted for surgery earlier this year.  The document has no relevance 
>> now but I used it as an experiment.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 21:18, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi shane,
>>> I'm happy to give positive feedback where it is deserved.
>>> 
>>> I personally would put one change at the top of my priority list for 
>>> Supersense.  Have an option to not have it start scanning as soon as you 
>>> open the app.
>>> Right now, you have to stop it, rather than start it.
>>> I often open the app and then want to position the camera but with it 
>>> rapidly trying to scan and sometimes firing off a scan before I'm ready, it 
>>> is a little disconcerting.
>>> Maybe with the Explore mode, it makes sense to have it going immediately.  
>>> I'm not sure it is on the other modes.
>>> 
>>> Later,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
>>> * I'm not the card shark
>>> * My web site, 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C19320f45f7e4421fbe9d08d8a6c3fc95%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442707971401874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=IkqKo6PJZazQKUGVhharhNh2MFG3hz3Nj0PaWq%2BdOVU%3Dreserved=0
>>> * 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shane Lowe
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>>> subscription
>>> 
>>> Richard,
>>> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
>>> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth the 
>>> price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and everyone 
>>> on this list.
>>> 
>>>>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  It 
>>>> has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do not 
>>>> know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a 
>>>> handwriting type script rather than block letters.
>>>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I 
>>>> think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, Voice 
>>>> Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possib

Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

Have you tried that document with Voice Dream Scanner? Voice Dream was able to 
scan the Mueller report in about five minutes and it is 450 pages. I'll see if 
I still have it around in PDF and test Supersense with it.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Is there an upper limit as to what pdf files can be imported?
> 
> I have an image-based pdf file here around 3.7 megabytes that I simply cannot 
> recognise either via the Share Sheet or the Import pdf facility.
> 
> Sometimes when I import pdf files the recognised content is spoken in a voice 
> different from the one I select.
> 
> Incidentally Envision AI recognises the pdf file I referred to earlier.  It 
> is a document from The Royal Gwent hospital which they sent me prior to my 
> being admitted for surgery earlier this year.  The document has no relevance 
> now but I used it as an experiment.
> 
> 
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 21:18, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi shane,
>> I'm happy to give positive feedback where it is deserved.
>> 
>> I personally would put one change at the top of my priority list for 
>> Supersense.  Have an option to not have it start scanning as soon as you 
>> open the app.
>> Right now, you have to stop it, rather than start it.
>> I often open the app and then want to position the camera but with it 
>> rapidly trying to scan and sometimes firing off a scan before I'm ready, it 
>> is a little disconcerting.
>> Maybe with the Explore mode, it makes sense to have it going immediately.  
>> I'm not sure it is on the other modes.
>> 
>> Later,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> * I'm not the card shark
>> * My web site, 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C19320f45f7e4421fbe9d08d8a6c3fc95%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442707971401874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=IkqKo6PJZazQKUGVhharhNh2MFG3hz3Nj0PaWq%2BdOVU%3Dreserved=0
>> * 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
>> Lowe
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> Richard,
>> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
>> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth the 
>> price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and everyone 
>> on this list.
>> 
>>>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  It 
>>> has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do not 
>>> know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a 
>>> handwriting type script rather than block letters.
>>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I 
>>> think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, Voice 
>>> Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
>>> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
>>> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made 
>>> me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to get 
>>> better in the future.
>>> Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
>>> Have courage for the great sorrows
>>> 
>>> of Life,
>>> 
>>> And patience for the small ones.
>>> And when you have laboriously
>>> Accomplished your daily task,
>>> 
>>>

Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Malcolm Parfitt

Is there an upper limit as to what pdf files can be imported?

I have an image-based pdf file here around 3.7 megabytes that I simply cannot 
recognise either via the Share Sheet or the Import pdf facility.

Sometimes when I import pdf files the recognised content is spoken in a voice 
different from the one I select.

Incidentally Envision AI recognises the pdf file I referred to earlier.  It is 
a document from The Royal Gwent hospital which they sent me prior to my being 
admitted for surgery earlier this year.  The document has no relevance now but 
I used it as an experiment.



Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2020, at 21:18, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi shane,
> I'm happy to give positive feedback where it is deserved.
> 
> I personally would put one change at the top of my priority list for 
> Supersense.  Have an option to not have it start scanning as soon as you open 
> the app.
> Right now, you have to stop it, rather than start it.
> I often open the app and then want to position the camera but with it rapidly 
> trying to scan and sometimes firing off a scan before I'm ready, it is a 
> little disconcerting.
> Maybe with the Explore mode, it makes sense to have it going immediately.  
> I'm not sure it is on the other modes.
> 
> Later,
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> * I'm not the card shark
> * My web site, www.turner42.com
> * 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
> Lowe
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
> subscription
> 
> Richard,
> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth the 
> price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and everyone on 
> this list.
> 
>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  It 
>> has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do not 
>> know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a 
>> handwriting type script rather than block letters.
>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I 
>> think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
>> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
>> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made 
>> me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to get 
>> better in the future.
>> Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
>> Have courage for the great sorrows
>> 
>> of Life,
>> 
>> And patience for the small ones.
>> And when you have laboriously
>> Accomplished your daily task,
>> 
>> Go to sleep in Peace
>> 
>> Bod in dhowake.
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.me
>> diate.tech%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1123133438ac4f38672408d8a6b14c89%7
>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442627710930517%7CUnkno
>> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
>> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=3jpvQkF4XBoNVz44sz2BVQE7E5eoXXXBgoxl8vF
>> KSfA%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?
>> url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediate.tech%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1123133438a
>> c4f38672408d8a6b14c89%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637
>> 442627710930517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2
>> luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=3jpvQkF4XBoNVz44
>> sz2BVQE7E5eoXXXBgoxl8vFKSfA%3Dreserved=0>
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
>> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
>> mother told me when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>

RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

Hi shane,
I'm happy to give positive feedback where it is deserved.

I personally would put one change at the top of my priority list for 
Supersense.  Have an option to not have it start scanning as soon as you open 
the app.
Right now, you have to stop it, rather than start it.
I often open the app and then want to position the camera but with it rapidly 
trying to scan and sometimes firing off a scan before I'm ready, it is a little 
disconcerting.
Maybe with the Explore mode, it makes sense to have it going immediately.  I'm 
not sure it is on the other modes.

Later,


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
* 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
Lowe
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Richard,
I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth the price. 
Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and everyone on this 
list.

On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Greetings,
> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  It 
> has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do not 
> know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a 
> handwriting type script rather than block letters.
> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I 
> think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, Voice 
> Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made 
> me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to get 
> better in the future.
> Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
> Have courage for the great sorrows
>
> of Life,
>
> And patience for the small ones.
> And when you have laboriously
> Accomplished your daily task,
>
> Go to sleep in Peace
>
> Bod in dhowake.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.me
> diate.tech%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1123133438ac4f38672408d8a6b14c89%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442627710930517%7CUnkno
> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=3jpvQkF4XBoNVz44sz2BVQE7E5eoXXXBgoxl8vF
> KSfA%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?
> url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediate.tech%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1123133438a
> c4f38672408d8a6b14c89%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637
> 442627710930517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2
> luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=3jpvQkF4XBoNVz44
> sz2BVQE7E5eoXXXBgoxl8vFKSfA%3Dreserved=0>
>
> Richard, in the U.S.
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
> mother told me when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
>
>   *   I'm not the card shark
>   *   My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1123133438ac4f38672408d8a6b14c89%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442627710930517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=QH%2FJx%2Bhu3VEtv%2B6fK61uc18Rbd74JlEfM9mpk1MlnO0%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1123133438ac4f38672408d8a6b14c89%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442627710930517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=QH%2FJx%2Bhu3VEtv%2B6fK61uc18Rbd74JlEfM9mpk1MlnO0%3Dreserved=0>
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RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother doing 
books.

As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.

I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO stand, or 
if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his stupid post office 
requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free matter for the blind.
At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence Market.

As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some 
documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to collapse and 
take with.
The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not take as 
many repeat collapsing and setting up again.

I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and just 
pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.

HTH,



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
• 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Hi richard,
Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess he’s 
not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents or books 
between super sense and voice dream scanner?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cc453bb834c284dbc653008d8a6b51ff7%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442644136597202%7CUnkno
> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Hv7LGoViXb0kYbwFq2%2BU8BrSq7uS9JUc%2FDS
> QoR%2BFmJg%3Dreserved=0
> •
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life 
> time subscription
> 
> Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you tried 
> the app with any scanning stands?
> 
> I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am about to try my 
> scanning stands.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 19:39, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard,
>> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
>> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth 
>> the price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and 
>> everyone on this list.
>> 
>>>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  
>>> It has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who 
>>> do not know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more 
>>> of a handwriting type script rather than block letters.
>>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and 
>>> I think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, 
>>> Voice Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
>>> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
>>> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly 
>>> made me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going 
>>> to get better in the future.
>>> H

Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Mary Otten

Hi richard,
Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess he’s 
not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents or books 
between super sense and voice dream scanner?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, in the U.S.
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, www.turner42.com
> • 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
> subscription
> 
> Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you tried 
> the app with any scanning stands?
> 
> I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am about to try my 
> scanning stands.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 22 Dec 2020, at 19:39, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard,
>> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
>> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth 
>> the price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and 
>> everyone on this list.
>> 
>>>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  
>>> It has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do 
>>> not know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a 
>>> handwriting type script rather than block letters.
>>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I 
>>> think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, 
>>> Voice Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
>>> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
>>> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made 
>>> me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to 
>>> get better in the future.
>>> Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
>>> Have courage for the great sorrows
>>> 
>>> of Life,
>>> 
>>> And patience for the small ones.
>>> And when you have laboriously
>>> Accomplished your daily task,
>>> 
>>> Go to sleep in Peace
>>> 
>>> Bod in dhowake.
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m
>>> ediate.tech%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6b170b670204979e48d08d8a6b2a246
>>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442633438063774%7CUn
>>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=10%2B3MtZ1pVx%2BudMtouXBP%2BbSlLTv
>>> CTMOJyqYNbtbvPM%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.o
>>> utlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediate.tech%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%
>>> 7Cf6b170b670204979e48d08d8a6b2a246%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
>>> %7C1%7C0%7C637442633438063774%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjA
>>> wMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=
>>> 10%2B3MtZ1pVx%2BudMtouXBP%2BbSlLTvCTMOJyqYNbtbvPM%3Dreserved=0>
>>> 
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped 
>>> in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what 
>>> my mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *   I'm not the card shark
>>> *   My web site, 
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RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
• 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
subscription

Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you tried the 
app with any scanning stands?

I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am about to try my 
scanning stands.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2020, at 19:39, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind 
> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth 
> the price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and 
> everyone on this list.
> 
>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  
>> It has my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do 
>> not know, is done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a 
>> handwriting type script rather than block letters.
>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I 
>> think I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, 
>> Voice Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
>> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
>> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made 
>> me decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to 
>> get better in the future.
>> Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
>> Have courage for the great sorrows
>> 
>> of Life,
>> 
>> And patience for the small ones.
>> And when you have laboriously
>> Accomplished your daily task,
>> 
>> Go to sleep in Peace
>> 
>> Bod in dhowake.
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m
>> ediate.tech%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6b170b670204979e48d08d8a6b2a246
>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442633438063774%7CUn
>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=10%2B3MtZ1pVx%2BudMtouXBP%2BbSlLTv
>> CTMOJyqYNbtbvPM%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.o
>> utlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediate.tech%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%
>> 7Cf6b170b670204979e48d08d8a6b2a246%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
>> %7C1%7C0%7C637442633438063774%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjA
>> wMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=
>> 10%2B3MtZ1pVx%2BudMtouXBP%2BbSlLTvCTMOJyqYNbtbvPM%3Dreserved=0>
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped 
>> in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what 
>> my mother told me when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> 
>>  *   I'm not the card shark
>>  *   My web site, 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6b170b670204979e48d08d8a6b2a246%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442633438063774%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=1mhCyRxHDW8%2BgrLt76V5O3XWA3nBX%2F2RJS%2BpEl5IweU%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6b170b670204979e48d08d8a6b2a246%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442633438063774%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=1mhCyRxHDW8%2BgrLt76V5O3XWA3nBX%2F2RJS%2BpEl5IweU%3Dreserved=0>
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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Malcolm Parfitt

Richard, I have always respected your opinions and findings, have you tried the 
app with any scanning stands?

I’ve also just purchased a lifetime subscription and am about to try my 
scanning stands.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Dec 2020, at 19:39, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind
> endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth
> the price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and
> everyone on this list.
> 
>> On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  It has
>> my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do not know, is
>> done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a handwriting type
>> script rather than block letters.
>> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I think
>> I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, Voice Dream
>> Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
>> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
>> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made me
>> decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to get better
>> in the future.
>> Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
>> Have courage for the great sorrows
>> 
>> of Life,
>> 
>> And patience for the small ones.
>> And when you have laboriously
>> Accomplished your daily task,
>> 
>> Go to sleep in Peace
>> 
>> Bod in dhowake.
>> www.mediate.tech<http://www.mediate.tech>
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> 
>>  *   I'm not the card shark
>>  *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

2020-12-22 Thread Shane Lowe

Richard,
I am pleased and honored to hear this. Thank you so much for the kind
endorsement, and we are striving to make the app more and more worth
the price. Thank you again, and all the best to you, your family, and
everyone on this list.

On 12/22/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Greetings,
> I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  It has
> my favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do not know, is
> done with threads of varying colors and is in more of a handwriting type
> script rather than block letters.
> Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I think
> I have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, Voice Dream
> Scanner, Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
> Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
> The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made me
> decide to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to get better
> in the future.
> Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
> Have courage for the great sorrows
>
> of Life,
>
> And patience for the small ones.
> And when you have laboriously
> Accomplished your daily task,
>
> Go to sleep in Peace
>
> Bod in dhowake.
> www.mediate.tech<http://www.mediate.tech>
>
> Richard, in the U.S.
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
> when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
>
>   *   I'm not the card shark
>   *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
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A podcast about Supersense

My wife was curious to know more about the company that makes Supersense and 
came across a podcast, video-cast, whatever, by someone I had not heard of, but 
this gives some more info about the company and its goals, etc.  The podcast is 
Live Accesible.
Here is the link.
SuperSense App for the Blind & Visually Impaired | Development & Future 
#LiveAccessible - 
YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVDkG2ICnQs=youtu.be>


SuperSense App for the Blind & Visually Impaired | Development & Future 
#LiveAccessible - 
YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVDkG2ICnQs=youtu.be>



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

Greetings,
I have a cross stitch on my wall that was made for me by my niece.  It has my 
favorite Victor Hugo quote.  Cross stitch, for those who do not know, is done 
with threads of varying colors and is in more of a handwriting type script 
rather than block letters.
Supersense did the best job of any scanning program I have used and I think I 
have used all of them.  Prizmo & Prizmo go, KNFB Reader, Voice Dream Scanner, 
Seeing AI, Envision AI and possibly more.
Supersense  only messed up the last line which should read God is awake.
The fact that it got the rest 100% correct and extremely quickly made me decide 
to go ahead and buy the app, knowing that it is going to get better in the 
future.
Here is the Supersense scan of the Victor Hugo quote:
Have courage for the great sorrows

of Life,

And patience for the small ones.
And when you have laboriously
Accomplished your daily task,

Go to sleep in Peace

Bod in dhowake.
www.mediate.tech<http://www.mediate.tech>

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I'm not the card shark
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RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-18 Thread Deb Cook Lewis

Braille does not keep up with speech but it remains available so after it has 
found text, you can move the phone away and still read the Braille. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Hi Scott,
I just did.
There is a trial, but the only channel I could see trying to use with braille 
is the document scan mode, and I doubt it would be worth buying since there are 
other document scanning apps that work fine with braille displays.

The scan mode and quick read would be pretty hard to use as you have to keep 
the phone over the document and the braille doesn't seem to keep up with what 
is being spoken.
You may want to give the free trial a try.
But, I'm thinking it is not the best fit for braille only.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
•
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Has anyone tried Super Sense with braille only? I'm not sure if there is a 
trial, but since I do not use speech, I'm wondering if anyone has tried this 
with a braille display?

Thanks,
Scott

On 12/18/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Snappier than Seeing AI
>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Newsline Administrator
>> SC Commission for the Blind
>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>> Columbia, SC 29201
>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
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>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.s
>> ccb.state.sc.us%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C0f17527995f34fc07b5e08d8a393
>> 346a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637439199918090268%
>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I
>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=o16tCu9XI6ZH%2FhGC%2BvgRhyHhlu
>> VPhW4TpjzSs%2BiXv4s%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, 
>> even as a one time payment, but that is just me.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr.
>> Ed
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I Richard,
>> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it 
>> would be
>> $99 a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would 
>> be really expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I 
>> thought I got it for a good price. That app did not pan out very 
>> well. I am like you Richard. It seems really expensive.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various 
>> modes, thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros:

RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-18 Thread Richard Turner

Hi Scott,
I just did.
There is a trial, but the only channel I could see trying to use with braille 
is the document scan mode, and I doubt it would be worth buying since there are 
other document scanning apps that work fine with braille displays.

The scan mode and quick read would be pretty hard to use as you have to keep 
the phone over the document and the braille doesn't seem to keep up with what 
is being spoken.
You may want to give the free trial a try.
But, I'm thinking it is not the best fit for braille only.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Has anyone tried Super Sense with braille only? I'm not sure if there is a 
trial, but since I do not use speech, I'm wondering if anyone has tried this 
with a braille display?

Thanks,
Scott

On 12/18/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Snappier than Seeing AI
>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Newsline Administrator
>> SC Commission for the Blind
>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>> Columbia, SC 29201
>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
>> 1-888-335-5951
>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.s
>> ccb.state.sc.us%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C0f17527995f34fc07b5e08d8a393
>> 346a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637439199918090268%
>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I
>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=o16tCu9XI6ZH%2FhGC%2BvgRhyHhlu
>> VPhW4TpjzSs%2BiXv4s%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, 
>> even as a one time payment, but that is just me.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr.
>> Ed
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I Richard,
>> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it 
>> would be
>> $99 a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would 
>> be really expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I 
>> thought I got it for a good price. That app did not pan out very 
>> well. I am like you Richard. It seems really expensive.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various 
>> modes, thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with 
>> specific messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch 
>> to the left, etc.
>> I like the music while processing, very nice.
>> The accuracy is very good.
>>
>> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I 
>> would possibly buy it.
>>
>

Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-18 Thread Scott Davert

Has anyone tried Super Sense with braille only? I'm not sure if there
is a trial, but since I do not use speech, I'm wondering if anyone has
tried this with a braille display?

Thanks,
Scott

On 12/18/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Snappier than Seeing AI
>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Newsline Administrator
>> SC Commission for the Blind
>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>> Columbia, SC 29201
>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
>> 1-888-335-5951
>> 
>> www.sccb.state.sc.us
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as
>> a one time payment, but that is just me.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr.
>> Ed
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I Richard,
>> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be
>> $99 a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be
>> really expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got
>> it for a good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you
>> Richard. It seems really expensive.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various
>> modes, thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
>> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
>> etc.
>> I like the music while processing, very nice.
>> The accuracy is very good.
>>
>> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
>> possibly buy it.
>>
>> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
>> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
>> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>>
>> Currency, Pros: very fast.
>> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a
>> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
>> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another
>> money identification app to double check with.
>>
>> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this
>> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches,
>> thermostats, etc.
>> Cons: none at this time.
>>
>> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
>> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>>
>> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>>
>> No cons at this time.
>>
>> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
>> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>>
>> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would
>> seriously consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now
>> with the other apps I have.
>>
>> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than
>> immediately begin trying to scan.
>>
>> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while
>> to add.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy ha

Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-17 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone

Snappier than Seeing AI

> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
> 
> 
> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>  
> Thank You,
> Steve Cook, CPM
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Newsline Administrator
> SC Commission for the Blind
> 1430 Confederate avenue
> Columbia, SC 29201
> Office: (803) 898-8788
> Cell: (803) 908-3856
> 1-888-335-5951
> 
> www.sccb.state.sc.us
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
> Harry
> 
> 
> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
> one time payment, but that is just me.
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
>  
> Software means never having to say you're finished 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> I Richard,
> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 
> a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
> expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
> good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It 
> seems really expensive.
> Mr. Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>  
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>  
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
> possibly buy it.
>  
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>  
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a 
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
> identification app to double check with.
>  
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
> etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>  
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate. 
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>  
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>  
> No cons at this time.
>  
> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>  
> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
> consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
> apps I have.
>  
> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than 
> immediately begin trying to scan.
>  
> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
> add.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-17 Thread Cook, Steve

Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?

Thank You,
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
Newsline Administrator
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
1-888-335-5951
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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
Harry


On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:

I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
one time payment, but that is just me.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished




On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions

I Richard,
When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.
Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-17 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone

Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
Harry

> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
> one time payment, but that is just me.
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
>  
> Software means never having to say you're finished 
>  
> 
> 
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> I Richard,
> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 
> a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
> expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
> good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It 
> seems really expensive.
> Mr. Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>  
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>  
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
> possibly buy it.
>  
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>  
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a 
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
> identification app to double check with.
>  
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
> etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>  
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate. 
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>  
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>  
> No cons at this time.
>  
> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>  
> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
> consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
> apps I have.
>  
> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than 
> immediately begin trying to scan.
>  
> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
> add.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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RE: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-17 Thread Dennis Long

I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
one time payment, but that is just me. 

Richard 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mr. 
Ed
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions

I Richard,

When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.

Mr. Ed

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.

I like the music while processing, very nice.

The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.

Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.

Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.

That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.

Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.  

Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.

I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.

Richard

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-10 Thread Shane Lowe

Peggy,
Thanks so much for your kind words. I hadn't received any of your
prior emails, but I'm glad I got this one.
I'm sorry you beat our sale, but hopefully your mind is at peace
knowing you are helping to support our future development! :)


On 12/10/20, pegkan...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi Shane,
> I have sent you a few messages, not sure if you want to sorry not sure if
> you received them. I really really really like your app. The only thing I
> wish, is that I had waited until it went on sale I would’ve stayed money and
> still enjoyed the app.
> I recommend it to many of my colleagues and friends.
> Thank you very much.
> Peggy
>
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>
>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ryan,
>> I did get your email, and I have replied. :) I am also working with
>> our developers on remedying that currency issue, it is very common and
>> it should be resolved soon.
>>
>>> On 12/9/20, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>>> I downloaded Super Sense yesterday and I am pretty impressed with it.
>>> One
>>> thing I noticed is that it tells me the wrong amount on dollar bills
>>> some
>>> times.  I had a one dollar bill and I was told it was a two dollar bill.
>>> I
>>> have enough vision to be able to tell that I is a one dollar bill if I
>>> put
>>> it close enough to my eyes.  Also, I emailed you privately about speaking
>>> on
>>> Tech Time.  Did you get the emails?
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Shane
>>> Lowe 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:19:49 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>>
>>> I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
>>> anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
>>> I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
>>> setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
>>> two.
>>> The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
>>> project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)
>>>
>>>> On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
>>>> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never
>>>> need,
>>>> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is
>>>> a
>>>> feature.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Richard,
>>>> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my
>>>> promo
>>>> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with
>>>> the
>>>> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed
>>>> the
>>>> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text
>>>> was
>>>> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
>>>> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
>>>> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
>>>> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I
>>>> will
>>>> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found
>>>> so
>>>> far.
>>>> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the
>>>> instant
>>>> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-10 Thread pegkane52

Hi Shane,
I have sent you a few messages, not sure if you want to sorry not sure if you 
received them. I really really really like your app. The only thing I wish, is 
that I had waited until it went on sale I would’ve stayed money and still 
enjoyed the app.
I recommend it to many of my colleagues and friends.
Thank you very much.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Dec 10, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ryan,
> I did get your email, and I have replied. :) I am also working with
> our developers on remedying that currency issue, it is very common and
> it should be resolved soon.
> 
>> On 12/9/20, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>> I downloaded Super Sense yesterday and I am pretty impressed with it.  One
>> thing I noticed is that it tells me the wrong amount on dollar bills some
>> times.  I had a one dollar bill and I was told it was a two dollar bill.  I
>> have enough vision to be able to tell that I is a one dollar bill if I put
>> it close enough to my eyes.  Also, I emailed you privately about speaking on
>> Tech Time.  Did you get the emails?
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Shane
>> Lowe 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:19:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>> 
>> I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
>> anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
>> I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
>> setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
>> two.
>> The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
>> project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)
>> 
>>> On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
>>> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never
>>> need,
>>> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
>>> feature.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi Richard,
>>> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo
>>> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the
>>> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed
>>> the
>>> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was
>>> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
>>> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
>>> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
>>> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I
>>> will
>>> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found so
>>> far.
>>> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the
>>> instant
>>> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps
>>> that
>>> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the
>>> discussion.
>>> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
>>> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
>>> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
>>> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
>>> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
>>> code for that. I am also testi

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-10 Thread Shane Lowe

Hi Ryan,
I did get your email, and I have replied. :) I am also working with
our developers on remedying that currency issue, it is very common and
it should be resolved soon.

On 12/9/20, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> I downloaded Super Sense yesterday and I am pretty impressed with it.  One
> thing I noticed is that it tells me the wrong amount on dollar bills some
> times.  I had a one dollar bill and I was told it was a two dollar bill.  I
> have enough vision to be able to tell that I is a one dollar bill if I put
> it close enough to my eyes.  Also, I emailed you privately about speaking on
> Tech Time.  Did you get the emails?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Shane
> Lowe 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:19:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>
> I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
> anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
> I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
> setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
> two.
> The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
> project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)
>
> On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
>> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never
>> need,
>> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
>> feature.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Richard,
>> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo
>> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the
>> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed
>> the
>> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was
>> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
>> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
>> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
>> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I
>> will
>> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found so
>> far.
>> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the
>> instant
>> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps
>> that
>> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the
>> discussion.
>> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
>> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
>> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
>> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
>> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
>> code for that. I am also testing envision to see how it scores in
>> comparison.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various
>> modes,
>> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
>> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
>> etc.
>> I like the music while processing, very nice.
>> The accuracy is very good.
>>
>> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
>> possibly buy it.
>>
>> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
>> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
>> channel did.

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-09 Thread Ryan Mann

I downloaded Super Sense yesterday and I am pretty impressed with it.  One 
thing I noticed is that it tells me the wrong amount on dollar bills some 
times.  I had a one dollar bill and I was told it was a two dollar bill.  I 
have enough vision to be able to tell that I is a one dollar bill if I put it 
close enough to my eyes.  Also, I emailed you privately about speaking on Tech 
Time.  Did you get the emails?

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Shane 
Lowe 
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:19:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions

I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
two.
The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)

On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never need,
> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
> feature.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  Hi Richard,
> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo
> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the
> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the
> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was
> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will
> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found so
> far.
> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant
> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
> Cheers
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that
> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion.
> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
> code for that. I am also testing envision to see how it scores in
> comparison.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
> etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
> possibly buy it.
>
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another
> money identification app to double check with.
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches,
> thermostats, etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-09 Thread Shane Lowe

I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
two.
The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)

On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never need,
> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
> feature.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  Hi Richard,
> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo
> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the
> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the
> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was
> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will
> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found so
> far.
> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant
> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
> Cheers
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that
> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion.
> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
> code for that. I am also testing envision to see how it scores in
> comparison.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
> etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
> possibly buy it.
>
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another
> money identification app to double check with.
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches,
> thermostats, etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>
> No cons at this time.
>
> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>
> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
> consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the
> other apps I have.
>
> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than
> immediately begin trying to scan.
>
> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
> add.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Cris Ali

Hi Richard,
Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a setting
or an option designated as handwriting.

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never need,
grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
feature.

Richard

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On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

Hi Richard,
Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo code
from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the results.
Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the test. As
expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was easy to
understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the english
handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic handwriting but may
do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write Arabic. It is definitely
superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will do more testing in the next
few days, but I am happy with what I found so far.
I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant
read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns. If it did, I would
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
channel did. Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate. I could see this
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats,
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast. Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall: I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
add.

Richard
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Richard Turner

That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never need,
grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
feature.

Richard

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On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard

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On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns. If it did, I would
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
channel did. Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast. Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall: I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
add.

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Cris Ali

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard

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On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns. If it did, I would
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
channel did. Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast. Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall: I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
add.

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Cris Ali

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard

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On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns. If it did, I would
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
channel did. Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast. Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall: I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
add.

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Re: Reading Bar-Code in SuperSense?

2020-12-08 Thread Shane Lowe

You can also use this blog post I wrote about the location of
barcodes. it might help you find a few more. :)
https://www.supersense.app/post/how-to-find-barcodes-on-products

On 12/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Bar codes are usually near a seam on the label for cans, and on the bottom
> of boxes.
> Also, along the seam of bags.
> It beeps while looking for the code.
> Good luck.
> '
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
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>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi.
> How can I read Bar Code using SuperSense?
> The app asks me to point my camera to bar code, how could I point camera to
> bar code if I don’t know its location on the package?
> Thanks!
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Shane Lowe

Chris,
I'm sorry for the confusion, I did reach out to you yesterday but
something must have gotten lost on the way. I will be resending your
promo code after I send this message.

Richard, thanks very much for the honest and thorough review. We
currently have a system which can process columns, and are in the
implementation phase now. I will also reach out to our development
team about adding the ability to scan ISBN numbers; that's a really
good idea.

The other thing I should mention about our price is that it includes
all of the features we are currently developing. While the app is
relatively expensive when compared to Voice Dream and Seeing AI, our
goal is to perform a lot of innovative research to collaborate and
benefit the community as much as possible. Unfortunately, that can be
pretty costly, but in the long run, you'll have access to far more
than what is visible in the app today.

On 12/7/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
> I do not like to pressure him. He said he will contact us privately, so I
> will wait until tomorrow. If he does not contact me I will contact him. I
> need to decide between supersense and envision. Envision is more expensive,
> but price is not everything.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that
> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion.
> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
> code for that. I am also testing envision to see how it scores in
> comparison.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
> etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
> possibly buy it.
>
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another
> money identification app to double check with.
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches,
> thermostats, etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>
> No cons at this time.
>
> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>
> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
> consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the
> other apps I have.
>
> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than
> immediately begin trying to scan.
>
> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
> add.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
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I do not like to pressure him. He said he will contact us privately, so I will
wait until tomorrow. If he does not contact me I will contact him. I need to
decide between supersense and envision. Envision is more expensive, but price
is not everything.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard

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On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns. If it did, I would
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
channel did. Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast. Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall: I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
add.

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
one time payment, but that is just me.


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On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions

I Richard,
When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.
Mr. Ed

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





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RE: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-07 Thread Larry Lumpkin

No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions

I Richard,

When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.

Mr. Ed

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.

I like the music while processing, very nice.

The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.

Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.

Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.

That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.

Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.  

Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.

I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.

Richard

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RE: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-07 Thread Mr. Ed

I Richard,

When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.

Mr. Ed

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

 

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

 

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.

I like the music while processing, very nice.

The accuracy is very good.

 

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

 

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.

Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

 

Currency, Pros: very fast.

Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.

That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

 

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.

Cons: none at this time.

 

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.  

Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

 

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

 

No cons at this time.

 

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.

I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

 

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

 

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

 

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard

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On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns. If it did, I would
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
channel did. Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast. Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall: I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately
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add.

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Re: Reading Bar-Code in SuperSense?

Bar codes are usually near a seam on the label for cans, and on the bottom of 
boxes.
Also, along the seam of bags.
It beeps while looking for the code.
Good luck.
'

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On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Fazil  wrote:


Hi.
How can I read Bar Code using SuperSense?
The app asks me to point my camera to bar code, how could I point camera to bar 
code if I don’t know its location on the package?
Thanks!

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Reading Bar-Code in SuperSense?

2020-12-07 Thread Fazil

Hi.

How can I read Bar Code using SuperSense?

The app asks me to point my camera to bar code, how could I point camera to
bar code if I don't know its location on the package?

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that 
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I 
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was 
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr 
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same 
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription 
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I 
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





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Supersense, initial impressions

I've spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane's promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI's product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI's Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I'm doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I'm not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





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Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

2020-12-07 Thread Shane Lowe

Hi all,
I just responded to Richard, and for those who requested promo codes,
I will be sending you an off-list email shortly.
To be clear, Supersense is $49.99 until January 1, when the price will
go back up to $99.99.

Currently, Supersense handles columns slightly better than other apps
I have experimented with (Seeing AI, etc) but our research and
development department has created an AI model that handles them much
better. We are currently working on implementing this, so you will see
changes coming in that area.

On 12/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Shirley, here is the full description and What's New from the app store:
> Description
> Supersense is the smartest and simplest scanner app made for the blind and
> visually impaired users to read any text format, currency or product details
> from a barcode independently.
>
>
> With the power of AI, Supersense automatically figures out what you are
> trying to scan, guides you on how to point the camera, and reads the content
> in the right format. Its unique design minimizes the time and frustrations
> of scanning and reading text for a blind and visually impaired user.
>
>
> Full features of Supersense:
>
> - Smart Scanner: The app automatically detects whether you are trying to
> quickly read a piece of text, a long document, a currency or a barcode.
>
> - Smart Guidance: The app guides you on how to point the camera and finds
> the best angle to have the most accurate results
>
> - Quick Read: Instantly read the text presented in front of the rear camera
>
> - Document: Read longer documents with the assistance of smart guidance.
> Once the text has been recognized, use VoiceOver commands to navigate
> through the recognized text and share it to other apps.
>
> - Multipage Scanning: Scan documents with multiple pages simultaneously and
> navigate through the text.
>
> - Currency: Recognize currencies and hear the value of a banknote
>
> - Barcode: Scan barcodes to hear the name and brand of the products with
> additional information
>
> - Object Explorer and Find: Scan your physical environment and hear about
> the objects that are around.
>
> - Import: Read and explore text from the images and PDF files. Also you can
> send them directly from any other apps with using "Recognize with
> Supersense" tool in your share menu.
>
> - Read History: Displays your recognition history in a single screen.
>
>
> Most features work without an internet connection so that the blind or
> visually impaired user can use it in any situation. The app has full
> VoiceOver accessibility support and is available in multiple languages.
> Whenever you get stuck, you can always find our tutorial under Menu or
> request a call and we will reach you to give personal training on how to use
> Supersense.
>
>
> Supersense is developed by Mediate, an MIT-spinoff AI start-up based in
> Boston. Mediate develops innovative computer vision systems with the support
> of the National Science Foundation and the US Department of Veterans
> Affairs. This app is just the first step in our mission to develop
> groundbreaking AI solutions for people with visual disabilities. We have
> developed the app with principles of human-centered design and with the
> assistance of blind and visually impaired users. We also partnered with many
> organizations that help the blind and low vision community.
>
>
> If you would like any assistance or help, please email us at
> feedb...@mediate.tech. We always love to hear ideas and feedback from the
> blind and visually impaired community.
>
>
> Subscription Plans:
>
> Supersense has limited access to all features. If you would like unlimited
> access, we have created subscription plans.
>
>
> - Monthly Subscription: $4.99
>
> - Yearly Subscription: $49.99
>
> - Lifetime Subscription: $99.99
>
>
> These subscription plans help us to continuously develop new features to
> provide immense value to the blind and the visually impaired.
>
>
> If you choose to purchase a subscription, the payment will be charged to
> iTunes Account at confirmation of purchase. All subscription plans
> automatically renew unless auto-renew is turned off at least 24-hours before
> the end of the current period. Auto-renew may be turned off by going to your
> iTunes Account Settings after purchase. The account will be charged for
> renewal within 24-hours prior to the end of the current period. Any unused
> portion of a free trial period, if offered, will be forfeited when the user
> purchases a subscription to that publication, where applicable. If you don't
> choose to purchase a subscription plan, you can simply continue using
> designated Supersense features for free.
>
>
> You c

RE: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Shirley, here is the full description and What's New from the app store:
Description
Supersense is the smartest and simplest scanner app made for the blind and 
visually impaired users to read any text format, currency or product details 
from a barcode independently.


With the power of AI, Supersense automatically figures out what you are trying 
to scan, guides you on how to point the camera, and reads the content in the 
right format. Its unique design minimizes the time and frustrations of scanning 
and reading text for a blind and visually impaired user.


Full features of Supersense:

- Smart Scanner: The app automatically detects whether you are trying to 
quickly read a piece of text, a long document, a currency or a barcode.

- Smart Guidance: The app guides you on how to point the camera and finds the 
best angle to have the most accurate results

- Quick Read: Instantly read the text presented in front of the rear camera

- Document: Read longer documents with the assistance of smart guidance. Once 
the text has been recognized, use VoiceOver commands to navigate through the 
recognized text and share it to other apps.

- Multipage Scanning: Scan documents with multiple pages simultaneously and 
navigate through the text.

- Currency: Recognize currencies and hear the value of a banknote

- Barcode: Scan barcodes to hear the name and brand of the products with 
additional information

- Object Explorer and Find: Scan your physical environment and hear about the 
objects that are around.

- Import: Read and explore text from the images and PDF files. Also you can 
send them directly from any other apps with using "Recognize with Supersense" 
tool in your share menu.

- Read History: Displays your recognition history in a single screen.


Most features work without an internet connection so that the blind or visually 
impaired user can use it in any situation. The app has full VoiceOver 
accessibility support and is available in multiple languages. Whenever you get 
stuck, you can always find our tutorial under Menu or request a call and we 
will reach you to give personal training on how to use Supersense.


Supersense is developed by Mediate, an MIT-spinoff AI start-up based in Boston. 
Mediate develops innovative computer vision systems with the support of the 
National Science Foundation and the US Department of Veterans Affairs. This app 
is just the first step in our mission to develop groundbreaking AI solutions 
for people with visual disabilities. We have developed the app with principles 
of human-centered design and with the assistance of blind and visually impaired 
users. We also partnered with many organizations that help the blind and low 
vision community.


If you would like any assistance or help, please email us at 
feedb...@mediate.tech. We always love to hear ideas and feedback from the blind 
and visually impaired community.


Subscription Plans:

Supersense has limited access to all features. If you would like unlimited 
access, we have created subscription plans.


- Monthly Subscription: $4.99

- Yearly Subscription: $49.99

- Lifetime Subscription: $99.99


These subscription plans help us to continuously develop new features to 
provide immense value to the blind and the visually impaired.


If you choose to purchase a subscription, the payment will be charged to iTunes 
Account at confirmation of purchase. All subscription plans automatically renew 
unless auto-renew is turned off at least 24-hours before the end of the current 
period. Auto-renew may be turned off by going to your iTunes Account Settings 
after purchase. The account will be charged for renewal within 24-hours prior 
to the end of the current period. Any unused portion of a free trial period, if 
offered, will be forfeited when the user purchases a subscription to that 
publication, where applicable. If you don't choose to purchase a subscription 
plan, you can simply continue using designated Supersense features for free.


You can read our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy from here: 
https://mediate.tech/policies


We hope you will enjoy your new super sense!

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What’s New
Version History
Dec 3, 2020 Version 1.4.4
Hello friends,

Hope you all are healthy and doing well! It’s been almost a year since we have 
first released Supersense, and we’re excited to celebrate it with you with a 
huge sales campaign! Below are the details of the sales campaign and the latest 
updates:

1) We’re on SALE! To celebrate our first anniversary and, of course, the start 
of the holiday season, we offer 40% off of Annual Subscription for the first 
year and 50% off of the Lifetime Subscription until January 1st, 2021.


2) Updated text viewer screen to read multiple page documents in separate 
pages. Now you can navigate through pages using the arrow buttons at the bottom 
of the text viewer screen and jump to a desired page if needed.


3) Upgraded Barcode scanner to provide additional information f

RE: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

I see that now, but it would have to completely blow my socks off to spend $49 
for an app for scanning, though I gather it does barcodes and such too.
I have Voice Dream Scanner and Seeing AI and between those two, I can scan and 
recognize bar codes quite well.
If I get a promo code to check it out in its current version, I will give it a 
full test of all its features and then decide if my socks are blown off, grin.

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Richard,
If you go to the app’s menu and selects subscription, you will find that the 
life time subscription is fifty percent discounted, from 99.99 to 49.99 dollars.
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

It sin’t clear in the app, so I wrote Shane directly and asked about that and 
the promo code to test it again more thoroughly.
If he doesn’t write the list with the answer about the price, I’ll pass it 
along if I receive it.

Richard
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There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

I think it is 49 dollars.
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Julie Dawson 
mailto:julie.magno...@att.net>> wrote:

What is the lifetime subscription cost?
- Original Message -
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to developments!
One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads out te 
first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent document, 
it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first document. How do I 
start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials I have not located?
Thanks
Harry

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe 
> mailto:sh...@mediate.tech>> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
> you who have been looking into the app!
> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
> blind iPhone user.
> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
> than once.
> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>
> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>>>

Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

I think it is 49 dollars.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:


What is the lifetime subscription cost?
- Original Message -
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to developments!
One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads out te 
first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent document, 
it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first document. How do I 
start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials I have not located?
Thanks
Harry

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe 
> mailto:sh...@mediate.tech>> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
> you who have been looking into the app!
> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
> blind iPhone user.
> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
> than once.
> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>
> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>>> Sure.
>>
>>>  Try this link
>>>
>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil 
>>>> mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
>>> mistake?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> TaraPrakash
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>>>
>>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of this
>>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to another  but
>>> you can definitely read the source language Text without translating it to
>>> another.  The app does have a free version. And it does support Arabic
>>> and many other eastern languages
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Cris Ali 
>>>> mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> supersense is now on sale until the end of the year, is it worth buying?
>>>> I think one time life subscription is 49 US dollars,. I know that there
>>>> are much less expensive scanning and OCR apps, but unfortunately they do
>>>> not do non-latin-based languages like Arabic or Hebrew. what do you
>>>> think?
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> cris
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Richard,
If you go to the app’s menu and selects subscription, you will find that the 
life time subscription is fifty percent discounted, from 99.99 to 49.99 dollars.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


It sin’t clear in the app, so I wrote Shane directly and asked about that and 
the promo code to test it again more thoroughly.
If he doesn’t write the list with the answer about the price, I’ll pass it 
along if I receive it.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

I think it is 49 dollars.
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Julie Dawson 
mailto:julie.magno...@att.net>> wrote:

What is the lifetime subscription cost?
- Original Message -
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to developments!
One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads out te 
first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent document, 
it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first document. How do I 
start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials I have not located?
Thanks
Harry

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe 
> mailto:sh...@mediate.tech>> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
> you who have been looking into the app!
> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
> blind iPhone user.
> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
> than once.
> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>
> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>>> Sure.
>>
>>>  Try this link
>>>
>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Ftranslate-photo-scan-camera%2Fid896187714=04%7C01%7C%7C22ac30d6ea1147d7094f08d89ad32fcd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637429579113414361%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QDxcO0I9XEybuWwirMql%2BlvF0rOHTN86AbTjScc7oUg%3D=0>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil 
>>>> mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
>>> mistake?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> TaraPrakash
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>>>
>>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of this
>>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to an

Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

2020-12-07 Thread Shirley Baker

What is SuperSense and what does it do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 9:02 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> I sent you a message last night, but wasn’t sure if you saw it so I thought I 
> would reply again I love love love love love super sense did I say I love the 
> app? The only problem I have is that I just sent for a lifetime subscription 
> not realizing that your prices would be reduced it is definitely worth the 
> money but I wish I had waited and could have gotten it at a lower cost.
> I tell as many people as I can about the app and encourage them to try it.
> Have a wonderful holiday.
> Peggy
> 
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 9:55 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
>> you who have been looking into the app!
>> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
>> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
>> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
>> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
>> blind iPhone user.
>> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
>> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
>> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
>> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
>> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
>> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
>> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
>> than once.
>> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
>> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
>> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>> 
>> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>>> Sure.
>>> 
>>>>  Try this link
>>>> 
>>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
>>>> mistake?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> TaraPrakash
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>>>> 
>>>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of this
>>>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to another  but
>>>> you can definitely read the source language Text without translating it to
>>>> another.  The app does have a free version. And it does support Arabic
>>>> and many other eastern languages
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> supersense is now on sale until the end of the year, is it worth buying?
>>>>>> I think one time life subscription is 49 US dollars,. I know that there
>>>>>> are much less expensive scanning and OCR apps, but unfortunately they do
>>>>>> not do non-latin-based languages like Arabic or Hebrew. what do you
>>>>>> think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> cris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>>>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>

RE: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

2020-12-07 Thread Fazil

Hi, Shane.
I also installed it months ago and did not have a chance of trying full version.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hi Shane,
I installed supersense on my iPhone months ago, then forgot all about it until 
now. The seven day period passed a long time ago, without taking advantage of 
it. Is there a way of renewing it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Harry, I'm glad it worked! :)
> Chris, the document scanner is available during the free seven-day 
> trial of Supersense. If it isn't coming up for you, let me know and I 
> can reach out to you off list with a promo code that will allow you to 
> test the app a bit further. The same applies to anyone who would like 
> to continue testing Supersense.
> 
>> On 12/7/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Hi Shane,
>> How can I test the document scan? This feature is not available in 
>> the free version, only the instant read is available.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks so much for the kind words; I'm so glad you're enjoying the 
>>> app. As always, please let us know how we can improve it to make 
>>> Supersense more useful.
>>> Harry, to solve your problem, you can double-tap the stop button, 
>>> and it will switch to a start button. Double-tap that again, and you 
>>> should be going on a clean slate. I'm also reporting this to our 
>>> developers so we can get it sorted. You shouldn't have to use my 
>>> solution for long!
>>> 
>>>> On 12/7/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>>> Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to 
>>>> developments!
>>>> One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app 
>>>> reads out te first document it sees but if i want it to start 
>>>> reading a subsequent document, it refuses to budge and insists on 
>>>> talking about te first document. How do I start a new instant scan? 
>>>> And are there some tutorials I have not located?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all 
>>>>> of you who have been looking into the app!
>>>>> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and 
>>>>> while the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app 
>>>>> currently has the capability of scanning any written language with 
>>>>> better results than I have seen in any other app. For 
>>>>> clarification, I am a totally blind iPhone user.
>>>>> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, 
>>>>> Supersense is our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to 
>>>>> the project.
>>>>> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next 
>>>>> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on 
>>>>> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user 
>>>>> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in 
>>>>> the lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for 
>>>>> Supersense more than once.
>>>>> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks 
>>>>> again for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call 
>>>>> from the app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Try this link
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id8961
>>>>>>> 87714
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier 
>>>>>>> link by mistake?
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>

RE: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

It sin’t clear in the app, so I wrote Shane directly and asked about that and 
the promo code to test it again more thoroughly.
If he doesn’t write the list with the answer about the price, I’ll pass it 
along if I receive it.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

I think it is 49 dollars.
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Julie Dawson 
mailto:julie.magno...@att.net>> wrote:

What is the lifetime subscription cost?
- Original Message -
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to developments!
One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads out te 
first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent document, 
it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first document. How do I 
start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials I have not located?
Thanks
Harry

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe 
> mailto:sh...@mediate.tech>> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
> you who have been looking into the app!
> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
> blind iPhone user.
> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
> than once.
> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>
> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>>> Sure.
>>
>>>  Try this link
>>>
>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Ftranslate-photo-scan-camera%2Fid896187714=04%7C01%7C%7C22ac30d6ea1147d7094f08d89ad32fcd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637429579113414361%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QDxcO0I9XEybuWwirMql%2BlvF0rOHTN86AbTjScc7oUg%3D=0>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil 
>>>> mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
>>> mistake?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> TaraPrakash
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>>>
>>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of this
>>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to another  but
>>> you can definitely read the source language Text without translating it to
>>> another.  The app does have a free version. And it does support Arabic
>>> and many other eastern languages
>>>
>&g

Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

I think it is 49 dollars.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:


What is the lifetime subscription cost?
- Original Message -
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to developments!
One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads out te 
first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent document, 
it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first document. How do I 
start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials I have not located?
Thanks
Harry

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe 
> mailto:sh...@mediate.tech>> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
> you who have been looking into the app!
> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
> blind iPhone user.
> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
> than once.
> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>
> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>>> Sure.
>>
>>>  Try this link
>>>
>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil 
>>>> mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
>>> mistake?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> TaraPrakash
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>>>
>>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of this
>>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to another  but
>>> you can definitely read the source language Text without translating it to
>>> another.  The app does have a free version. And it does support Arabic
>>> and many other eastern languages
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Cris Ali 
>>>> mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> supersense is now on sale until the end of the year, is it worth buying?
>>>> I think one time life subscription is 49 US dollars,. I know that there
>>>> are much less expensive scanning and OCR apps, but unfortunately they do
>>>> not do non-latin-based languages like Arabic or Hebrew. what do you
>>>> think?
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> cris
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>
>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>>> mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>>> you can reach Cara at
>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com

Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

2020-12-07 Thread Julie Dawson

What is the lifetime subscription cost?
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:25 AM
  Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?


  Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to 
developments!
  One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads out 
te first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent 
document, it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first document. 
How do I start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials I have not 
located?
  Thanks
  Harry

  > On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe  wrote:
  > 
  > Hi there,
  > My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
  > you who have been looking into the app!
  > Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
  > the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
  > the capability of scanning any written language with better results
  > than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
  > blind iPhone user.
  > We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
  > our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
  > We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
  > little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
  > solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
  > experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
  > lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
  > than once.
  > Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
  > for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
  > app, where you can get free technical support and training.
  > 
  > On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
  >>> Sure.
  >> 
  >>>  Try this link
  >>> 
  >>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714
  >>> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >> 
  >>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil  wrote:
  >>> 
  >>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
  >>> mistake?
  >>> Thanks!
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> -Original Message-
  >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
  >>> TaraPrakash
  >>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
  >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  >>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
  >>> 
  >>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of this
  >>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to another  but
  >>> you can definitely read the source language Text without translating it to
  >>> another.  The app does have a free version. And it does support Arabic
  >>> and many other eastern languages
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> Sent from my iPhone
  >>> 
  >>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
  >>>> 
  >>>> Hi folks,
  >>>> supersense is now on sale until the end of the year, is it worth buying?
  >>>> I think one time life subscription is 49 US dollars,. I know that there
  >>>> are much less expensive scanning and OCR apps, but unfortunately they do
  >>>> not do non-latin-based languages like Arabic or Hebrew. what do you
  >>>> think?
  >>>> 
  >>>> cheers,
  >>>> cris
  >>>> 
  >>>> Sent from my iPad
  >>>> 
  >>>> --
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  >>>> list.
  >>>> 
  >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
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  >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
  >>>> 
  >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
  >>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
  >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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RE: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

2020-12-07 Thread Fazil

Thanks, Shane.
Please send me the code too.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
Lowe
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Harry, I'm glad it worked! :)
Chris, the document scanner is available during the free seven-day trial of 
Supersense. If it isn't coming up for you, let me know and I can reach out to 
you off list with a promo code that will allow you to test the app a bit 
further. The same applies to anyone who would like to continue testing 
Supersense.

On 12/7/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
> Hi Shane,
> How can I test the document scan? This feature is not available in the 
> free version, only the instant read is available.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks so much for the kind words; I'm so glad you're enjoying the 
>> app. As always, please let us know how we can improve it to make 
>> Supersense more useful.
>> Harry, to solve your problem, you can double-tap the stop button, and 
>> it will switch to a start button. Double-tap that again, and you 
>> should be going on a clean slate. I'm also reporting this to our 
>> developers so we can get it sorted. You shouldn't have to use my 
>> solution for long!
>>
>>> On 12/7/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>> Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to 
>>> developments!
>>> One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app 
>>> reads out te first document it sees but if i want it to start 
>>> reading a subsequent document, it refuses to budge and insists on 
>>> talking about te first document. How do I start a new instant scan? 
>>> And are there some tutorials I have not located?
>>> Thanks
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all 
>>>> of you who have been looking into the app!
>>>> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and 
>>>> while the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app 
>>>> currently has the capability of scanning any written language with 
>>>> better results than I have seen in any other app. For 
>>>> clarification, I am a totally blind iPhone user.
>>>> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense 
>>>> is our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
>>>> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next 
>>>> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on 
>>>> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user 
>>>> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in 
>>>> the lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for 
>>>> Supersense more than once.
>>>> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks 
>>>> again for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call 
>>>> from the app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Try this link
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id89618
>>>>>> 7714
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier 
>>>>>> link by mistake?
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of TaraPrakash
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to 
>>>>>> another but you can definitely read the source language Text 
>>>>>&g

Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hi Shane,
I installed supersense on my iPhone months ago, then forgot all about it until 
now. The seven day period passed a long time ago, without taking advantage of 
it. Is there a way of renewing it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Harry, I'm glad it worked! :)
> Chris, the document scanner is available during the free seven-day
> trial of Supersense. If it isn't coming up for you, let me know and I
> can reach out to you off list with a promo code that will allow you to
> test the app a bit further. The same applies to anyone who would like
> to continue testing Supersense.
> 
>> On 12/7/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Hi Shane,
>> How can I test the document scan? This feature is not available in the free
>> version, only the instant read is available.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks so much for the kind words; I'm so glad you're enjoying the
>>> app. As always, please let us know how we can improve it to make
>>> Supersense more useful.
>>> Harry, to solve your problem, you can double-tap the stop button, and
>>> it will switch to a start button. Double-tap that again, and you
>>> should be going on a clean slate. I'm also reporting this to our
>>> developers so we can get it sorted. You shouldn't have to use my
>>> solution for long!
>>> 
>>>> On 12/7/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>>> Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to
>>>> developments!
>>>> One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads
>>>> out
>>>> te first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent
>>>> document, it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first
>>>> document. How do I start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials
>>>> I
>>>> have not located?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
>>>>> you who have been looking into the app!
>>>>> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
>>>>> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
>>>>> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
>>>>> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
>>>>> blind iPhone user.
>>>>> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
>>>>> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
>>>>> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
>>>>> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
>>>>> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
>>>>> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
>>>>> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
>>>>> than once.
>>>>> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
>>>>> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
>>>>> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Try this link
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
>>>>>>> mistake?
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>> TaraPrakash
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subj

Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

2020-12-07 Thread Shane Lowe

Harry, I'm glad it worked! :)
Chris, the document scanner is available during the free seven-day
trial of Supersense. If it isn't coming up for you, let me know and I
can reach out to you off list with a promo code that will allow you to
test the app a bit further. The same applies to anyone who would like
to continue testing Supersense.

On 12/7/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
> Hi Shane,
> How can I test the document scan? This feature is not available in the free
> version, only the instant read is available.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks so much for the kind words; I'm so glad you're enjoying the
>> app. As always, please let us know how we can improve it to make
>> Supersense more useful.
>> Harry, to solve your problem, you can double-tap the stop button, and
>> it will switch to a start button. Double-tap that again, and you
>> should be going on a clean slate. I'm also reporting this to our
>> developers so we can get it sorted. You shouldn't have to use my
>> solution for long!
>>
>>> On 12/7/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>> Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to
>>> developments!
>>> One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads
>>> out
>>> te first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent
>>> document, it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first
>>> document. How do I start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials
>>> I
>>> have not located?
>>> Thanks
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
>>>> you who have been looking into the app!
>>>> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
>>>> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
>>>> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
>>>> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
>>>> blind iPhone user.
>>>> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
>>>> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
>>>> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
>>>> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
>>>> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
>>>> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
>>>> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
>>>> than once.
>>>> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
>>>> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
>>>> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Try this link
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
>>>>>> mistake?
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> TaraPrakash
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to another
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> you can definitely read the source language Text without translating
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> another.  The app does have a free version. And it does support
>>>>>> Arabic
>>>>>> and many other eastern languages
>>>>&g

Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

2020-12-07 Thread Mickey Quenzer

How does this software handle columnar text? Also is family sharing support on 
this app?


*** MQ ***
***270-776-9871 ***

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cris Ali 

Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:32:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?

Hi Shane,
How can I test the document scan? This feature is not available in the free 
version, only the instant read is available.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thanks so much for the kind words; I'm so glad you're enjoying the
> app. As always, please let us know how we can improve it to make
> Supersense more useful.
> Harry, to solve your problem, you can double-tap the stop button, and
> it will switch to a start button. Double-tap that again, and you
> should be going on a clean slate. I'm also reporting this to our
> developers so we can get it sorted. You shouldn't have to use my
> solution for long!
>
>> On 12/7/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Hello, Shane! I have a lifetime subscription and I look forward to
>> developments!
>> One thing I cannot work out: when in instant reader mode, your app reads out
>> te first document it sees but if i want it to start reading a subsequent
>> document, it refuses to budge and insists on talking about te first
>> document. How do I start a new instant scan? And are there some tutorials I
>> have not located?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>>
>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:55, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> My name is Shane, and I work for Supersense. Thanks so much to all of
>>> you who have been looking into the app!
>>> Yes, our goal is to support as many languages as possible, and while
>>> the processing isn't perfect for each one yet, the app currently has
>>> the capability of scanning any written language with better results
>>> than I have seen in any other app. For clarification, I am a totally
>>> blind iPhone user.
>>> We're also working on the app regularly. For many of us, Supersense is
>>> our full-time employment, and we are really dedicated to the project.
>>> We tend to put out updates once every two weeks, and for the next
>>> little bit we're battening down the hatches and focusing on
>>> solidifying the features we already have to make for the best user
>>> experience. Of course, any new features we develop are included in the
>>> lifetime cost of the app, so you won't have to pay for Supersense more
>>> than once.
>>> Please let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again
>>> for your interest! :) You are also welcome to request a call from the
>>> app, where you can get free technical support and training.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>>>> Sure.
>>>>
>>>>>  Try this link
>>>>>
>>>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate-photo-scan-camera/id896187714
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you send the link again, please as I deleted the earlier link by
>>>>> mistake?
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> TaraPrakash
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 4:05 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?
>>>>>
>>>>> TranslatePhoto is an app you may like to try. .   The main purpose of
>>>>> this
>>>>> app is to scan and OCR from a language and translate it to another  but
>>>>> you can definitely read the source language Text without translating it
>>>>> to
>>>>> another.  The app does have a free version. And it does support Arabic
>>>>> and many other eastern languages
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> supersense is now on sale until the end of the year, is it worth
>>>>>> buying?
>>>>>> I think one time life subscription is 49 US dollars,. I know that
>>>>>&

Re: SuperSense is on sale, is it worth buying?