Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
yeah, there is some risk, which is why I registered it during my return policy expired. From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 7:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Except you have to be careful if you buy a used iPhone, another list member did this also only to found out that apparently the iPhone she bought was reported stolen and was blacklisted. Under $100 sounds good, but you can buy cheaper paper weights than that. I’m not saying you can’t buy used, just saying it’s always a risk. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 2:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hi Bill, I hear your concerns. I am a fairly new iphone user and I had the same concerns about affordability of new iphone that you mentioned. Add to that the fact that my flip phone was doing most of the things I wanted it to do, just very slowly lol!! I couldn’t believe the asking price for new iphones and really did not want to invest heavily in a product that I might not even like. So, I asked around and ultimately started perusing amazon.com and groupon.com. Low and behold, one day, there it was- an apple 5 for less than $100.00. Later on, I found a refurbished apple SE 16 G for somewhere in the 200 to 300 price range. I know the apple SE is the same size as the 5, and uses the same accessories. So, that shouldn’t be an issue. In sum, I think you will find something within your price range as long as you are patient and persistent. From: Bill Outman Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 10:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hello, again list. I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose it. The case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four years, so it is really overdue for a replacement. First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle. It seems to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is really the issue. I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11. I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I may lose somethingin the process. I know I can back up the phone to iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is some step I need to take to do this just before the switch. When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these. I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might need to replace, though admittedly I haven’t used it much. I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get. I bought the 5S through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014. It is fully paid off long since through my cell phone bill with them. I know I could have taken a free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model I would have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer process then. Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and don’t know what I can get and still have the same transfer fears. If I can’t get it free, I have fears about the cost of the new phone, or how much I can afford to allow the bill to increase to pay for it that way. I am in a jam with my available credit. One other technical issue is the compatibility of my charger. Will I have to replace it? One more issue is getting a protective case for the new iPhone. The cost cost concerns me as this may have to be a separate purchase at another time. I would again appreciate someone helping work through this process. Bill Outman Email: wout...@earthlink.net -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, s
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Except you have to be careful if you buy a used iPhone, another list member did this also only to found out that apparently the iPhone she bought was reported stolen and was blacklisted. Under $100 sounds good, but you can buy cheaper paper weights than that. I’m not saying you can’t buy used, just saying it’s always a risk. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 2:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hi Bill, I hear your concerns. I am a fairly new iphone user and I had the same concerns about affordability of new iphone that you mentioned. Add to that the fact that my flip phone was doing most of the things I wanted it to do, just very slowly lol!! I couldn’t believe the asking price for new iphones and really did not want to invest heavily in a product that I might not even like. So, I asked around and ultimately started perusing amazon.com and groupon.com. Low and behold, one day, there it was- an apple 5 for less than $100.00. Later on, I found a refurbished apple SE 16 G for somewhere in the 200 to 300 price range. I know the apple SE is the same size as the 5, and uses the same accessories. So, that shouldn’t be an issue. In sum, I think you will find something within your price range as long as you are patient and persistent. From: Bill Outman<mailto:wout...@earthlink.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 10:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hello, again list. I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose it. The case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four years, so it is really overdue for a replacement. First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle. It seems to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is really the issue. I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11. I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I may lose somethingin the process. I know I can back up the phone to iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is some step I need to take to do this just before the switch. When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these. I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might need to replace, though admittedly I haven’t used it much. I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get. I bought the 5S through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014. It is fully paid off long since through my cell phone bill with them. I know I could have taken a free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model I would have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer process then. Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and don’t know what I can get and still have the same transfer fears. If I can’t get it free, I have fears about the cost of the new phone, or how much I can afford to allow the bill to increase to pay for it that way. I am in a jam with my available credit. One other technical issue is the compatibility of my charger. Will I have to replace it? One more issue is getting a protective case for the new iPhone. The cost cost concerns me as this may have to be a separate purchase at another time. I would again appreciate someone helping work through this process. Bill Outman Email: wout...@earthlink.net<mailto:wout...@earthlink.net> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit t
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hi Bill, I hear your concerns. I am a fairly new iphone user and I had the same concerns about affordability of new iphone that you mentioned. Add to that the fact that my flip phone was doing most of the things I wanted it to do, just very slowly lol!! I couldn’t believe the asking price for new iphones and really did not want to invest heavily in a product that I might not even like. So, I asked around and ultimately started perusing amazon.com and groupon.com. Low and behold, one day, there it was- an apple 5 for less than $100.00. Later on, I found a refurbished apple SE 16 G for somewhere in the 200 to 300 price range. I know the apple SE is the same size as the 5, and uses the same accessories. So, that shouldn’t be an issue. In sum, I think you will find something within your price range as long as you are patient and persistent. From: Bill Outman Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 10:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hello, again list. I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose it. The case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four years, so it is really overdue for a replacement. First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle. It seems to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is really the issue. I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11. I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I may lose somethingin the process. I know I can back up the phone to iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is some step I need to take to do this just before the switch. When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these. I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might need to replace, though admittedly I haven’t used it much. I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get. I bought the 5S through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014. It is fully paid off long since through my cell phone bill with them. I know I could have taken a free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model I would have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer process then. Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and don’t know what I can get and still have the same transfer fears. If I can’t get it free, I have fears about the cost of the new phone, or how much I can afford to allow the bill to increase to pay for it that way. I am in a jam with my available credit. One other technical issue is the compatibility of my charger. Will I have to replace it? One more issue is getting a protective case for the new iPhone. The cost cost concerns me as this may have to be a separate purchase at another time. I would again appreciate someone helping work through this process. Bill Outman Email: wout...@earthlink.net -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Kelly, that's understandable and that's so right. Neither one of us feel the
strong need to get the newest phone or any other newest thing, as long as my
phone is still working that's what I care about. I'm not into the idea of
changing phones every year or every 2 years, that's not for me, but I hear
of people that do that. I still use some button phones that I'll never stop
using.
- Original Message -
From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyt...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Arlene, these are budget conscious iPhone owners. They have a phone
introduced in 2013. If they keep this new phone for four or five
years like the 5s they now own, they will save money from the cost of
chucking an iPhone after just two years.
Kelly
On 4/7/18, Arlene <arlenes71...@earthlink.net> wrote:
We have a friend that provides transportation for us, and she prefers the
larger screen because she doesn't wear her contacts 24 7, and without them
she's just about as blind as we are. The larger screen would probably be
great for a partially sighted friend. Other wise you're correct about the
7
being less expensive and a nice size phone. In another message I observed
someone was recomending an iphone 8 because it would be more future proof
in
regards to being obsolete. While that's correct, most people wouldn't have
the same phone beyond 2 years. So while the 7 is knocking on the 8's
backdoor you'd save money with buying the 7, and would have a simular good
experience. If you could afford the 8, go ahead and buy it.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hi Arlene,
Interesting that you recommend the SE and the 7 Plus, a huge step up in
size. I think unless somebody specifically wants a Plus size phone the
regular iPhone 7 would be a better choice and also less expensive.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
Arlene
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Bill, as relatively new iphone users, we chose the se phones, we like it
for it's size, it's very smooth operating experience when using the phone
and it will have your standard audio jack. We can definitely recomend the
se. We believe this would be a great choice. However, if you wanted to
step
out a little our other recomendation at this time would be the 7 plus.
With
the 7 plus I believe you get an adaptor so you would have your audio
physically connected to your phone. I've heard the bluetooth has gotten
better when it comes to audio. Anyway the 7 plus is a nice phone, just a
little more money. Good luck, Bill with all this information that you
received from richard, mark, us and anyone else that's answered these
questions for you since I'm a bit behind on messages, of which it will be
interesting to read.
Arlene and Wayne
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Bill, Mark covered most points very well.
I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is
slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you.
Richard
(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
Hello Bill,
You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the
simple
fact that each person's circumstances are unique.
Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist
you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion.
As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS
11,
I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature.
1.
To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu,
select your name.
2.
Select iCloud.
3.
Select and explore the Backup area.
Now, as for your other questions:
1.
Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain
you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your
audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that
you
purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm
jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as
usual.
Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10
series devices.
As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6
S
series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store.
2.
You ask:
"When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hi Arlene, I think you would be surprised how many people keep the iPhone for at least 3 and sometimes 4 years. Yes, there are the techy people and those who just want to have the latest and quite a few are probably on these expensive plans which allow them to trade in their phone every year, but there are also a lot of as Kelly said budget conscious owners who either can't afford that or they just don't see the need for it. When I bought my first iPhone, an iPhone 4 in 2010, I also ended up selling it the following year to buy the 4S in 2011 because it was quite a big upgrade and the 4S was the first phone with SIRI. After that I also upgraded every 2 years, the 5S in 2013 and the 6S Plus in 2015, but now for the first time I have kept my 6S Plus for a third year. As I said, I'll probably get a battery replacement at some point this year at Apple's discounted price and I'm not at all sure if I will upgrade even this fall. If my 6S Plus gets a new battery it can probably do at least another year because otherwise I am very happy with the phone. I think Face Id is neat and wireless charging is cool, but it's not like I have to have this. Given the somewhat mediocre reception of the iPhone X I think I don't at all mind waiting until Apple has figured out where they are going with this. I also very much believe that there is less need to upgrade this often as these phones mature, in the early years say between 2007 and 2013 they came a long way and each year the phone was a pretty major upgrade, but now that the size/form factor seems to have sort of settled in, cameras while getting improvements with newer phones are fantastic even on the 6S/6S Plus and for every-day use I doubt you would notice a huge difference in speed when it comes to opening up apps and so on. I therefore think people are going to upgrade less often in the future unless companies bring down the costs of the types of plans where that is possible. Here in Canada we pay some of the highest prices for cell phone and fast internet service and the plan I am on with Koodo Mobile, an MVNO owned by Telus, is too good to give up. I pay $49 + taxes for unlimited Canada wide calling and texting, basic voice mail and 6Gb of data. That of course is $49 Canadian and with taxes added on that is about $40 US at the current exchange rate. I would pay at least $90 if I had a similar plan from one of the big 3 here, Bell, Telus or Rogers and while this would allow me to buy a subsidised new phone every 2 years, it's not worth it. Let's consider a 4-year term so 48 months. Let's also assume the phone will cost me $1,100 Canadian, but subsidised it is only $400 Canadian and I am buying a new phone every 2 years. This means I will pay $90 a months for the plan I want multiplied by 48 months = $4,320.00. I also bought 2 phones at $400 during that time, one at the beginning and the second after 2 years which then lasts me for year 3 and 4, another $800. Therefore, after 4 years I have spent $5,120.00. Now in the other scenario let's assume I buy my phone for $1,100 at the beginning and I keep it for 4 years. I also get to be on my let's say $50 a month plan. I now spent $50 for 48 months = $2,400, add to that the phone at full price and I spend $3,500. Compared to the other plan I saved $1, 620.00. the iPhone X costs more than most people spend on a laptop and even the regular iphone 8 with 256Gb of memory costs as much or more than many laptops. How many people buy a new laptop every 2 years? I think as the initial fascination with these powerful little devices wears thin people will realize that they can easily keep them for 3 or 4 years and that for a relatively small amount they could get the battery replaced after 2 years to maintain good performance and especially with iPhones we also know that we get the latest iOS update usually for 5 years. Yes, the newest phone may have the hardware to support a few new features, but unless they introduce something pretty spectacular (that goes for Apple as well as for Google) most phones which are new now or were new in the last couple of years will do just fine. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 7:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Arlene, these are budget conscious iPhone owners. They have a phone introduced in 2013. If they keep this new phone for four or five years like the 5s they now own, they will save money from the cost of chucking an iPhone after just two years. Kelly On 4/7/18, Arlene <arlenes71...@earthlink.net> wrote: > We have a friend that provides transportation for us, and she prefers > the larger screen because she doesn't wear her contacts 24 7, and > without them she's just about as blind as we are. The larger screen > would probably be great
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Arlene, these are budget conscious iPhone owners. They have a phone introduced in 2013. If they keep this new phone for four or five years like the 5s they now own, they will save money from the cost of chucking an iPhone after just two years. Kelly On 4/7/18, Arlene <arlenes71...@earthlink.net> wrote: > We have a friend that provides transportation for us, and she prefers the > larger screen because she doesn't wear her contacts 24 7, and without them > she's just about as blind as we are. The larger screen would probably be > great for a partially sighted friend. Other wise you're correct about the 7 > being less expensive and a nice size phone. In another message I observed > someone was recomending an iphone 8 because it would be more future proof in > regards to being obsolete. While that's correct, most people wouldn't have > the same phone beyond 2 years. So while the 7 is knocking on the 8's > backdoor you'd save money with buying the 7, and would have a simular good > experience. If you could afford the 8, go ahead and buy it. > - Original Message - > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 12:06 PM > Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S > > > Hi Arlene, > > > > Interesting that you recommend the SE and the 7 Plus, a huge step up in > size. I think unless somebody specifically wants a Plus size phone the > regular iPhone 7 would be a better choice and also less expensive. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Arlene > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S > > > > Bill, as relatively new iphone users, we chose the se phones, we like it > for it's size, it's very smooth operating experience when using the phone > and it will have your standard audio jack. We can definitely recomend the > se. We believe this would be a great choice. However, if you wanted to step > out a little our other recomendation at this time would be the 7 plus. With > the 7 plus I believe you get an adaptor so you would have your audio > physically connected to your phone. I've heard the bluetooth has gotten > better when it comes to audio. Anyway the 7 plus is a nice phone, just a > little more money. Good luck, Bill with all this information that you > received from richard, mark, us and anyone else that's answered these > questions for you since I'm a bit behind on messages, of which it will be > interesting to read. > > > > Arlene and Wayne > > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: Richard Turner > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:19 AM > > Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S > > > > > > Bill, Mark covered most points very well. > > I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is > slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. > > Richard > > > > > > (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) > > > On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Hello Bill, > > You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple > fact that each person's circumstances are unique. > > Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist > you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. > > As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, > I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. > > 1. > To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, > select your name. > > 2. > Select iCloud. > > 3. > Select and explore the Backup area. > > Now, as for your other questions: > > 1. > Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain > you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your > audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you > purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm > jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. > Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 > series devices. > > As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S > series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. > > 2. > You ask: > "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth > devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring,
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
We have a friend that provides transportation for us, and she prefers the larger screen because she doesn't wear her contacts 24 7, and without them she's just about as blind as we are. The larger screen would probably be great for a partially sighted friend. Other wise you're correct about the 7 being less expensive and a nice size phone. In another message I observed someone was recomending an iphone 8 because it would be more future proof in regards to being obsolete. While that's correct, most people wouldn't have the same phone beyond 2 years. So while the 7 is knocking on the 8's backdoor you'd save money with buying the 7, and would have a simular good experience. If you could afford the 8, go ahead and buy it. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 12:06 PM Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hi Arlene, Interesting that you recommend the SE and the 7 Plus, a huge step up in size. I think unless somebody specifically wants a Plus size phone the regular iPhone 7 would be a better choice and also less expensive. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, as relatively new iphone users, we chose the se phones, we like it for it's size, it's very smooth operating experience when using the phone and it will have your standard audio jack. We can definitely recomend the se. We believe this would be a great choice. However, if you wanted to step out a little our other recomendation at this time would be the 7 plus. With the 7 plus I believe you get an adaptor so you would have your audio physically connected to your phone. I've heard the bluetooth has gotten better when it comes to audio. Anyway the 7 plus is a nice phone, just a little more money. Good luck, Bill with all this information that you received from richard, mark, us and anyone else that's answered these questions for you since I'm a bit behind on messages, of which it will be interesting to read. Arlene and Wayne - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:19 AM Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is f
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
It’s the iPhone 7/7 Plus and higher, the 6S/6S Plus as well as the iPhone SE still have a 3.5mm headphone jack. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hi, Yes with the iPhone 6S and higher you get the headphone jack adapter. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Arlene, Interesting that you recommend the SE and the 7 Plus, a huge step up in size. I think unless somebody specifically wants a Plus size phone the regular iPhone 7 would be a better choice and also less expensive. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, as relatively new iphone users, we chose the se phones, we like it for it's size, it's very smooth operating experience when using the phone and it will have your standard audio jack. We can definitely recomend the se. We believe this would be a great choice. However, if you wanted to step out a little our other recomendation at this time would be the 7 plus. With the 7 plus I believe you get an adaptor so you would have your audio physically connected to your phone. I've heard the bluetooth has gotten better when it comes to audio. Anyway the 7 plus is a nice phone, just a little more money. Good luck, Bill with all this information that you received from richard, mark, us and anyone else that's answered these questions for you since I'm a bit behind on messages, of which it will be interesting to read. Arlene and Wayne - Original Message - From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:19 AM Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating system. Okay, that's about it. Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this. Sincerely, Mark which apps won't work on iOS 11 How can I find 32-bit apps on my device? Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple. On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > Gener
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hi, Yes with the iPhone 6S and higher you get the headphone jack adapter. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Arlene, Interesting that you recommend the SE and the 7 Plus, a huge step up in size. I think unless somebody specifically wants a Plus size phone the regular iPhone 7 would be a better choice and also less expensive. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, as relatively new iphone users, we chose the se phones, we like it for it's size, it's very smooth operating experience when using the phone and it will have your standard audio jack. We can definitely recomend the se. We believe this would be a great choice. However, if you wanted to step out a little our other recomendation at this time would be the 7 plus. With the 7 plus I believe you get an adaptor so you would have your audio physically connected to your phone. I've heard the bluetooth has gotten better when it comes to audio. Anyway the 7 plus is a nice phone, just a little more money. Good luck, Bill with all this information that you received from richard, mark, us and anyone else that's answered these questions for you since I'm a bit behind on messages, of which it will be interesting to read. Arlene and Wayne - Original Message - From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:19 AM Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating system. Okay, that's about it. Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this. Sincerely, Mark which apps won't work on iOS 11 How can I find 32-bit apps on my device? Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple. On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look for Applications in the list. which apps won't work on iOS 11 If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side of that section then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all the 32-bi
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hi Arlene, Interesting that you recommend the SE and the 7 Plus, a huge step up in size. I think unless somebody specifically wants a Plus size phone the regular iPhone 7 would be a better choice and also less expensive. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, as relatively new iphone users, we chose the se phones, we like it for it's size, it's very smooth operating experience when using the phone and it will have your standard audio jack. We can definitely recomend the se. We believe this would be a great choice. However, if you wanted to step out a little our other recomendation at this time would be the 7 plus. With the 7 plus I believe you get an adaptor so you would have your audio physically connected to your phone. I've heard the bluetooth has gotten better when it comes to audio. Anyway the 7 plus is a nice phone, just a little more money. Good luck, Bill with all this information that you received from richard, mark, us and anyone else that's answered these questions for you since I'm a bit behind on messages, of which it will be interesting to read. Arlene and Wayne - Original Message - From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:19 AM Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating system. Okay, that's about it. Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this. Sincerely, Mark which apps won't work on iOS 11 How can I find 32-bit apps on my device? Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple. On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look for Applications in the list. which apps won't work on iOS 11 If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side of that section then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all the 32-bit apps on your device. https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.co.uk%2Fhow-to%2Fiosapps%2Fwhich-apps-wont-work-in-ios-11-3660434%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cad985a4d28a14c73f8d608d59aba76b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636585048025779077=PZmMAEpPKig1oaK4DfBOkOUYyweR1iZpizgnx1zh4%2
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Bill, as relatively new iphone users, we chose the se phones, we like it for
it's size, it's very smooth operating experience when using the phone and it
will have your standard audio jack. We can definitely recomend the se. We
believe this would be a great choice. However, if you wanted to step out a
little our other recomendation at this time would be the 7 plus. With the 7
plus I believe you get an adaptor so you would have your audio physically
connected to your phone. I've heard the bluetooth has gotten better when it
comes to audio. Anyway the 7 plus is a nice phone, just a little more money.
Good luck, Bill with all this information that you received from richard, mark,
us and anyone else that's answered these questions for you since I'm a bit
behind on messages, of which it will be interesting to read.
Arlene and Wayne
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Bill, Mark covered most points very well.
I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is
slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you.
Richard
(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
Hello Bill,
You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact
that each person's circumstances are unique.
Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you.
Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion.
As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I
will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature.
1.
To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select
your name.
2.
Select iCloud.
3.
Select and explore the Backup area.
Now, as for your other questions:
1.
Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do
not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio
connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase
an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack,
insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also,
the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series
devices.
As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S
series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store.
2.
You ask:
"When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices,
my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to
replace these.?
Answer:
All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth
devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not.
As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as
all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port
charging system.
Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't
blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is
unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible.
I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have
not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless,
given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than
you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating system.
Okay, that's about it.
Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this.
Sincerely,
Mark
which apps won't work on iOS 11
How can I find 32-bit apps on my device?
Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple.
On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look for
Applications in the list.
which apps won't work on iOS 11
If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping
Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side of that
section then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all the 32-bit
apps on your device.
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.co.uk%2Fhow-to%2Fiosapps%2Fwhich-apps-wont-work-in-ios-11-3660434%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cad985a4d28a14c73f8d608d59aba76b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636585048025779077=PZmMAEpPKig1oaK4DfBOkOUYyweR1iZpizgnx1zh4%2BI%3D=0
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Outman
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hello, again list.
I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It
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RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Sieghard, I meant to reply to this message and not the previous one. Thanks for the info. Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll." blazie.g...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S If you invest $40 of whatever the Belkin Rockstar splitter costs then you can use wired headsets while you are charging.it costs From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Vivian Conger Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 9:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S All good points. I will say though I have an iPhone 7 and the one thing I don’t like is that if you are charging your phone, you can’t use the plug-in headphones at the same time as they both use the same port. Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll." blazie.g...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S In addition, the SE has a headphone jack. If you require that to be present on the iPhone. I do want to point out as well that even though from the 7 onwards, you can use headphones which use the the older style of connecting. Not sure what it is called but you will need to use the dongal which will enable you to use a 7 and onwards iPhone which do not feature a headphone jack. You should get the dongal in your purchase if 7 or above. I know it's less convenient, but at least apple provided a solution and believe me, if they didn't, I wouldn't of brought another iPhone. Certainly not because they are not amazing devices which we can hold in the palm of our hands but in my particular use case. I use a device which assists me with my hearing and the device where I can plug it in to listen to audio related stuff, simply required the headphone jack to be present. So if you are at all concerned about plugging in old headphones which use the jack, rest assured for now at least, apple has it covered. Depending on which newer iPhone you purchase. I hope this has been of some help. Funny how the removal of just one thing could effect one's own view with a product. I actually got quite anxious about the headphone jack removal. For now though, I'm not so worried. Daniel On 5 Apr 2018, at 13:19, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Sieghard, Thanks for this info. Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll." blazie.g...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hi Richard, It is slightly newer than the 6S, but it actually has older technology. The processor is the same, but it still has the first generation Touch Id sensor (same as the 5S) whereas the 6S and 6S Plus have a faster and more reliable Touch Id home button. The SE also does not support 3D Touch whereas the 6S and 6S Plus do. I would absolutely not recommend an SE at this late stage of the cycle and while my wife has a 6S and I have a 6S Plus and they are very good phones and we like them, I would probably even suggest to go with an iPhone 7 as the minimum. Yes, it doesn’t have the 3.5mm headphone jack any more and come with a set of Lightning Earpods and if you want to use a wired headset and charge at the same time you need the Belkin Rockstart adapter/splitter. Anyhow, Bill asked if he needs to reconnect his bluetooth keyboard and headset so it seems like he is using a bluetooth headset more than maybe a wired headset and if so the lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack is probably not an issue for him. Bill, if you think you want to keep your next phone for 4 years than I would definitely suggest you look at getting an iPhone 7, if you can afford an iPhone 8 then get an iPhone 8, it is the most future proof and will let use use wireless charging, but you have to buy a wireless charging pad, they are not expensive on Amazon, maybe $20 or $30, less than an original Apple Lightning cable. Of course you can still plug it in as well. The iPhone 7 is only offered with 32Gb or 128Gb, the iPhone 8 is offered in 64Gb or 256Gb. I don’t know how much storage your current 5S has, but 32Gb is almost not enough if you want to put a bunch of music on it and also take some pictures. If you primarily just want apps on it and use a music streaming service where you don’t store music on the phone or if you don’t care much about listening to music on your iPhone then 32Gb is probably fine. Lastly I would recommend that if you have an Apple Store nearby that you simply ask them to help you to make sure your 5S is backed up and to then switch your SIM (your current SIM from the 5S will work in the newer phones) and lastly to restore your backup and make sure everything is as it should. If you bring your keyboard, tile and headset they can even make sure they are connected and working. You may have to tweek a few things, but for the most part you would walk into an Apple Store with your old 5S and you would walk out a couple of hours later with a new phone which is fully set up more or less the same as your old one. trans Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 5:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I sho
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Thanks Don. I will give this a look. Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll." blazie.g...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Moore Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 9:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S There is an adapter you can find in the apple store which will allow you to do it. It’s around $30 as I remember and it works well. Come to think of it, there are two types, one for the new headphones and the other using the old one, both though plugging into the phone and allowing the battery to be charging while you use your headphones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vivian Conger Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 12:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S All good points. I will say though I have an iPhone 7 and the one thing I don’t like is that if you are charging your phone, you can’t use the plug-in headphones at the same time as they both use the same port. Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll." blazie.g...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S In addition, the SE has a headphone jack. If you require that to be present on the iPhone. I do want to point out as well that even though from the 7 onwards, you can use headphones which use the the older style of connecting. Not sure what it is called but you will need to use the dongal which will enable you to use a 7 and onwards iPhone which do not feature a headphone jack. You should get the dongal in your purchase if 7 or above. I know it's less convenient, but at least apple provided a solution and believe me, if they didn't, I wouldn't of brought another iPhone. Certainly not because they are not amazing devices which we can hold in the palm of our hands but in my particular use case. I use a device which assists me with my hearing and the device where I can plug it in to listen to audio related stuff, simply required the headphone jack to be present. So if you are at all concerned about plugging in old headphones which use the jack, rest assured for now at least, apple has it covered. Depending on which newer iPhone you purchase. I hope this has been of some help. Funny how the removal of just one thing could effect one's own view with a product. I actually got quite anxious about the headphone jack removal. For now though, I'm not so worried. Daniel On 5 Apr 2018, at 13:19, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all t
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
If you invest $40 of whatever the Belkin Rockstar splitter costs then you can use wired headsets while you are charging.it costs From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Vivian Conger Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 9:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S All good points. I will say though I have an iPhone 7 and the one thing I don’t like is that if you are charging your phone, you can’t use the plug-in headphones at the same time as they both use the same port. Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll." blazie.g...@gmail.com<mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S In addition, the SE has a headphone jack. If you require that to be present on the iPhone. I do want to point out as well that even though from the 7 onwards, you can use headphones which use the the older style of connecting. Not sure what it is called but you will need to use the dongal which will enable you to use a 7 and onwards iPhone which do not feature a headphone jack. You should get the dongal in your purchase if 7 or above. I know it's less convenient, but at least apple provided a solution and believe me, if they didn't, I wouldn't of brought another iPhone. Certainly not because they are not amazing devices which we can hold in the palm of our hands but in my particular use case. I use a device which assists me with my hearing and the device where I can plug it in to listen to audio related stuff, simply required the headphone jack to be present. So if you are at all concerned about plugging in old headphones which use the jack, rest assured for now at least, apple has it covered. Depending on which newer iPhone you purchase. I hope this has been of some help. Funny how the removal of just one thing could effect one's own view with a product. I actually got quite anxious about the headphone jack removal. For now though, I'm not so worried. Daniel On 5 Apr 2018, at 13:19, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating system. Okay, that's about it. Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hi Richard, It is slightly newer than the 6S, but it actually has older technology. The processor is the same, but it still has the first generation Touch Id sensor (same as the 5S) whereas the 6S and 6S Plus have a faster and more reliable Touch Id home button. The SE also does not support 3D Touch whereas the 6S and 6S Plus do. I would absolutely not recommend an SE at this late stage of the cycle and while my wife has a 6S and I have a 6S Plus and they are very good phones and we like them, I would probably even suggest to go with an iPhone 7 as the minimum. Yes, it doesn’t have the 3.5mm headphone jack any more and come with a set of Lightning Earpods and if you want to use a wired headset and charge at the same time you need the Belkin Rockstart adapter/splitter. Anyhow, Bill asked if he needs to reconnect his bluetooth keyboard and headset so it seems like he is using a bluetooth headset more than maybe a wired headset and if so the lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack is probably not an issue for him. Bill, if you think you want to keep your next phone for 4 years than I would definitely suggest you look at getting an iPhone 7, if you can afford an iPhone 8 then get an iPhone 8, it is the most future proof and will let use use wireless charging, but you have to buy a wireless charging pad, they are not expensive on Amazon, maybe $20 or $30, less than an original Apple Lightning cable. Of course you can still plug it in as well. The iPhone 7 is only offered with 32Gb or 128Gb, the iPhone 8 is offered in 64Gb or 256Gb. I don’t know how much storage your current 5S has, but 32Gb is almost not enough if you want to put a bunch of music on it and also take some pictures. If you primarily just want apps on it and use a music streaming service where you don’t store music on the phone or if you don’t care much about listening to music on your iPhone then 32Gb is probably fine. Lastly I would recommend that if you have an Apple Store nearby that you simply ask them to help you to make sure your 5S is backed up and to then switch your SIM (your current SIM from the 5S will work in the newer phones) and lastly to restore your backup and make sure everything is as it should. If you bring your keyboard, tile and headset they can even make sure they are connected and working. You may have to tweek a few things, but for the most part you would walk into an Apple Store with your old 5S and you would walk out a couple of hours later with a new phone which is fully set up more or less the same as your old one. trans Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 5:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
There is an adapter you can find in the apple store which will allow you to do it. It’s around $30 as I remember and it works well. Come to think of it, there are two types, one for the new headphones and the other using the old one, both though plugging into the phone and allowing the battery to be charging while you use your headphones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vivian Conger Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 12:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S All good points. I will say though I have an iPhone 7 and the one thing I don’t like is that if you are charging your phone, you can’t use the plug-in headphones at the same time as they both use the same port. Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll." blazie.g...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S In addition, the SE has a headphone jack. If you require that to be present on the iPhone. I do want to point out as well that even though from the 7 onwards, you can use headphones which use the the older style of connecting. Not sure what it is called but you will need to use the dongal which will enable you to use a 7 and onwards iPhone which do not feature a headphone jack. You should get the dongal in your purchase if 7 or above. I know it's less convenient, but at least apple provided a solution and believe me, if they didn't, I wouldn't of brought another iPhone. Certainly not because they are not amazing devices which we can hold in the palm of our hands but in my particular use case. I use a device which assists me with my hearing and the device where I can plug it in to listen to audio related stuff, simply required the headphone jack to be present. So if you are at all concerned about plugging in old headphones which use the jack, rest assured for now at least, apple has it covered. Depending on which newer iPhone you purchase. I hope this has been of some help. Funny how the removal of just one thing could effect one's own view with a product. I actually got quite anxious about the headphone jack removal. For now though, I'm not so worried. Daniel On 5 Apr 2018, at 13:19, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
All good points. I will say though I have an iPhone 7 and the one thing I don’t like is that if you are charging your phone, you can’t use the plug-in headphones at the same time as they both use the same port. Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll." blazie.g...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S In addition, the SE has a headphone jack. If you require that to be present on the iPhone. I do want to point out as well that even though from the 7 onwards, you can use headphones which use the the older style of connecting. Not sure what it is called but you will need to use the dongal which will enable you to use a 7 and onwards iPhone which do not feature a headphone jack. You should get the dongal in your purchase if 7 or above. I know it's less convenient, but at least apple provided a solution and believe me, if they didn't, I wouldn't of brought another iPhone. Certainly not because they are not amazing devices which we can hold in the palm of our hands but in my particular use case. I use a device which assists me with my hearing and the device where I can plug it in to listen to audio related stuff, simply required the headphone jack to be present. So if you are at all concerned about plugging in old headphones which use the jack, rest assured for now at least, apple has it covered. Depending on which newer iPhone you purchase. I hope this has been of some help. Funny how the removal of just one thing could effect one's own view with a product. I actually got quite anxious about the headphone jack removal. For now though, I'm not so worried. Daniel On 5 Apr 2018, at 13:19, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating system. Okay, that's about it. Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this. Sincerely, Mark which apps won't work on iOS 11 How can I find 32-bit apps on my device? Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple. On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look for Applications in the list. which apps won't work on iOS 11 If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
gt; All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth >>> devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. >>> >>> As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it >>> as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening >>> port charging system. >>> >>> Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I >>> don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change >>> is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever >>> possible. >>> >>> I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps >>> have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. >>> Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you >>> will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern >>> operating system. >>> >>> Okay, that's about it. >>> >>> Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> which apps won't work on iOS 11 >>> >>> How can I find 32-bit apps on my device? >>> >>> Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple. >>> >>> On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look >>> for Applications in the list. >>> >>> which apps won't work on iOS 11 >>> >>> If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping >>> Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side >>> of that section then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all >>> the 32-bit apps on your device. >>> >>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.co.uk%2Fhow-to%2Fiosapps%2Fwhich-apps-wont-work-in-ios-11-3660434%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cad985a4d28a14c73f8d608d59aba76b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636585048025779077=PZmMAEpPKig1oaK4DfBOkOUYyweR1iZpizgnx1zh4%2BI%3D=0 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Bill Outman >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:47 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S >>> >>> Hello, again list. >>> >>> I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. >>> It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the >>> touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose >>> it. The case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four >>> years, so it is really overdue for a replacement. >>> >>> First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle. It seems >>> to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is really >>> the issue. I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new >>> version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps >>> might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11. >>> >>> I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I >>> may lose somethingin the process. I know I can back up the phone to >>> iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is >>> some step I need to take to do this just before the switch. >>> >>> When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, >>> my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I >>> need to replace these. I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might >>> need to replace, though admittedly I haven’t used it much. >>> >>> I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get. I bought the >>> 5S through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014. It is fully paid off >>> long since through my cell phone bill with them. I know I could have >>> taken a free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model >>> I would have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer >>> process then. Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and >>> don’t know what I can get and still have the same transfer fears. >>> If I can’t get it free, I have fears about the cost of the new phone, or >>> how much I can afford to allow the bill to increase to pay for it that >>> way. I am in a jam with my available credi
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
ook for >> Applications in the list. >> >> which apps won't work on iOS 11 >> >> If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping Applications >> will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side of that section >> then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all the 32-bit apps on >> your device. >> >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.co.uk%2Fhow-to%2Fiosapps%2Fwhich-apps-wont-work-in-ios-11-3660434%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cad985a4d28a14c73f8d608d59aba76b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636585048025779077=PZmMAEpPKig1oaK4DfBOkOUYyweR1iZpizgnx1zh4%2BI%3D=0 >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Bill Outman >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:47 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S >> >> Hello, again list. >> >> I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It >> is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the touch >> screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose it. The >> case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four years, so it >> is really overdue for a replacement. >> >> First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle. It seems to >> be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is really the >> issue. I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new version, >> and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps might have >> trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11. >> >> I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I may >> lose somethingin the process. I know I can back up the phone to iCloud, >> but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is some step >> I need to take to do this just before the switch. >> >> When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my >> keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to >> replace these. I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might need to >> replace, though admittedly I haven’t used it much. >> >> I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get. I bought the 5S >> through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014. It is fully paid off long >> since through my cell phone bill with them. I know I could have taken a >> free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model I would >> have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer process then. >> Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and don’t know what I can >> get and still have the same transfer fears. >> If I can’t get it free, I have fears about the cost of the new phone, or how >> much I can afford to allow the bill to increase to pay for it that way. I >> am in a jam with my available credit. >> >> One other technical issue is the compatibility of my charger. Will I have >> to replace it? >> >> One more issue is getting a protective case for the new iPhone. The cost >> cost concerns me as this may have to be a separate purchase at another time. >> >> >> I would again appreciate someone helping work through this process. >> >> Bill Outman >> Email: wout...@earthlink.net >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cad985a4d28a14c73f8d608d59aba76b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636585048025779077=8s8PpwdHGrOA%2FQqM1UZwGESA%2BKn0PTflv%2FrngV8%2F2Zs%3D=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@g
Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Bill, Mark covered most points very well. I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you. Richard (Sent from the iPod Touch 6) On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating system. Okay, that's about it. Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this. Sincerely, Mark which apps won't work on iOS 11 How can I find 32-bit apps on my device? Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple. On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look for Applications in the list. which apps won't work on iOS 11 If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side of that section then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all the 32-bit apps on your device. https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.co.uk%2Fhow-to%2Fiosapps%2Fwhich-apps-wont-work-in-ios-11-3660434%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cad985a4d28a14c73f8d608d59aba76b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636585048025779077=PZmMAEpPKig1oaK4DfBOkOUYyweR1iZpizgnx1zh4%2BI%3D=0 From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Outman Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hello, again list. I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose it. The case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four years, so it is really overdue for a replacement. First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle. It seems to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is really the issue. I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11. I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I may lose somethingin the process. I know I can back up the phone to iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is some step I need to take to do this just before the switch. When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these. I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might need to replac
RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hello Bill, You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple fact that each person's circumstances are unique. Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you. Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature. 1. To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select your name. 2. Select iCloud. 3. Select and explore the Backup area. Now, as for your other questions: 1. Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model. The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual. Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10 series devices. As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store. 2. You ask: "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these.? Answer: All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth devices. Will you need to replace them? I should think not. As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening port charging system. Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible. I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11. Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating system. Okay, that's about it. Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this. Sincerely, Mark which apps won't work on iOS 11 How can I find 32-bit apps on my device? Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple. On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look for Applications in the list. which apps won't work on iOS 11 If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side of that section then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all the 32-bit apps on your device. https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iosapps/which-apps-wont-work-in-ios-11-3660434/ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Outman Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S Hello, again list. I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose it. The case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four years, so it is really overdue for a replacement. First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle. It seems to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is really the issue. I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11. I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I may lose somethingin the process. I know I can back up the phone to iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is some step I need to take to do this just before the switch. When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these. I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might need to replace, though admittedly I haven’t used it much. I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get. I bought the 5S through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014. It is fully paid off long since through my cell phone bill with them. I know I could have taken a free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model I would have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer process then. Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and don’t know what I can get and still have the same transfer fears. If I can’t get it free, I have fears about the
Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
Hello, again list. I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose it. The case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four years, so it is really overdue for a replacement. First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle. It seems to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I'm not sure if this is really the issue. I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11. I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I may lose somethingin the process. I know I can back up the phone to iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is some step I need to take to do this just before the switch. When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will I need to replace these. I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might need to replace, though admittedly I haven't used it much. I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get. I bought the 5S through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014. It is fully paid off long since through my cell phone bill with them. I know I could have taken a free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model I would have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer process then. Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and don't know what I can get and still have the same transfer fears. If I can't get it free, I have fears about the cost of the new phone, or how much I can afford to allow the bill to increase to pay for it that way. I am in a jam with my available credit. One other technical issue is the compatibility of my charger. Will I have to replace it? One more issue is getting a protective case for the new iPhone. The cost cost concerns me as this may have to be a separate purchase at another time. I would again appreciate someone helping work through this process. Bill Outman Email: wout...@earthlink.net -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
