RE: TTJTech Services: Alexa, Stop…’Cause I’ve Got a HomePod!

2023-10-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
"explore numerous features and functions of Siri on HomePod, and find out why 
the HomePod might just be the only smart speaker you and your family will ever 
need!"
That is a funny statement considering how little Siri can do in so many cases 
compared to Alexa or google Assistant.
Maybe once Matter support really has taken hold with home automation devices 
this will be possible, but if you own a Nest or Ring doorbell or other camera, 
a Nest thermostat (or others which support Alexa and/or Google Assistant but 
not Apple Homekit), you definitely can't just have an Apple Homepod.

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Subject: TTJTech Services: Alexa, Stop…’Cause I’ve Got a HomePod!

> Our next Tuesdays With TTJ session, to be held next week on Tuesday, October 
> 3, 2023 at 2PM Eastern, is all about Apple’s HomePod and HomePod Mini. 
> Originally released back in 2018, the HomePod launched to mixed reviews. 
> Sure, everyone agreed that the sound quality was nothing short of amazing, 
> but many were skeptical of Siri’s perceived shortcomings, especially when 
> compared to those of Alexa and Google Assistant. In the five years since that 
> initial release, both the HomePod and Siri have grown by leaps and bounds, 
> with numerous new features, additional functionality, and improved 
> performance. Multiple user support, third-party music service integration, 
> intercom features, and much more; these are just a few examples of features 
> that have been added within the past few years. A wide variety of smart home 
> features take things to the next level, and combining the HomePod with an 
> Apple TV will provide an unmatched home theater experience, elevating TV and 
> audio to the next level! So before you run out and buy one of those new Echo 
> devices Amazon just announced, stop, and join our Tuesday afternoon session 
> to learn about HomePod. Find out how easy it is to set up and integrate the 
> HomePod with all your Apple devices, learn the differences between Siri and 
> other smart voice assistance, explore numerous features and functions of Siri 
> on HomePod, and find out why the HomePod might just be the only smart speaker 
> you and your family will ever need! To join, use the same link as you use to 
> join all our other Tuesdays With TTJ sessions, including Virtual Help 
> Sessions. This link can be found on the Free Resources page of our website. 
> God bless you, and happy listening!:) — Made with Universe. Create a website 
> from your phone in minutes. Get started free.

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TTJTech Services: Alexa, Stop…’Cause I’ve Got a HomePod!

2023-10-03 Thread Kliph
> Our next Tuesdays With TTJ session, to be held next week on Tuesday, October 
> 3, 2023 at 2PM Eastern, is all about Apple’s HomePod and HomePod Mini. 
> Originally released back in 2018, the HomePod launched to mixed reviews. 
> Sure, everyone agreed that the sound quality was nothing short of amazing, 
> but many were skeptical of Siri’s perceived shortcomings, especially when 
> compared to those of Alexa and Google Assistant. In the five years since that 
> initial release, both the HomePod and Siri have grown by leaps and bounds, 
> with numerous new features, additional functionality, and improved 
> performance. Multiple user support, third-party music service integration, 
> intercom features, and much more; these are just a few examples of features 
> that have been added within the past few years. A wide variety of smart home 
> features take things to the next level, and combining the HomePod with an 
> Apple TV will provide an unmatched home theater experience, elevating TV and 
> audio to the next level! So before you run out and buy one of those new Echo 
> devices Amazon just announced, stop, and join our Tuesday afternoon session 
> to learn about HomePod. Find out how easy it is to set up and integrate the 
> HomePod with all your Apple devices, learn the differences between Siri and 
> other smart voice assistance, explore numerous features and functions of Siri 
> on HomePod, and find out why the HomePod might just be the only smart speaker 
> you and your family will ever need! To join, use the same link as you use to 
> join all our other Tuesdays With TTJ sessions, including Virtual Help 
> Sessions. This link can be found on the Free Resources page of our website. 
> God bless you, and happy listening!:) — Made with Universe. Create a website 
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HomePod problem fixed, strange

2023-01-27 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I’m certainly not going to complain. But today my HomePod problem fixed 
itself. After my attempt failed miserably yesterday, today, Siri is once again 
serving Apple Music to my HomePod directly. Now I just hope it keeps on working 
at least for a while. I wish I knew what changed, so I could fix it next time.


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Re: Moore homePod issues, can’t hand off from my phone

2023-01-27 Thread Mary Otten
well, since I use the HomePods for all my TV sound for Amazon and Apple TV and 
cable, I’m definitely keeping them. You can do Apple Music from the TV, and 
that works fine. I just wish this problem we’re Siri can’t do Apple music on 
the HomePod could be fixed once and for all. It comes and it goes. It’s been 
around for a long time. And yet they haven’t fixed it. I don’t think I wanna 
get into Sonos. Another ecosystem. But thanks.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I know this is not a solution for your issue, but if I had this many 
> problems I would sell the thing and get myself a couple of Sonos speakers, 
> problem solved. Granted, you can't do Siri with your Sonos speakers, but you 
> can set them up either with Alexa or Google Assistant and given the excellent 
> accessibility of the app and the support for more music services than any 
> other multi-room audio system out there I find it is a much superior option.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 2:01 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Moore homePod issues, can’t hand off from my phone
> 
> So now I also can’t hand off to my HomePods from the phone. Yes the same 
> Netwerk is being used. I got some stupid thing about how more than one device 
> is playing music and shouldn’t I upgrade to a family plan. No, I shouldn’t. 
> There weren’t any other devices playing music. I have tried unplugging and 
> reconnecting the HomePods to absolutely no avail. These are really good 
> speakers with really crappy shaky flaky implementation of pretty much 
> everything except the annoying Siri which promises things and then doesn’t do 
> them.
> 
> 
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RE: Moore homePod issues, can’t hand off from my phone

2023-01-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I know this is not a solution for your issue, but if I had this many problems I 
would sell the thing and get myself a couple of Sonos speakers, problem solved. 
Granted, you can't do Siri with your Sonos speakers, but you can set them up 
either with Alexa or Google Assistant and given the excellent accessibility of 
the app and the support for more music services than any other multi-room audio 
system out there I find it is a much superior option.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 2:01 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Moore homePod issues, can’t hand off from my phone

So now I also can’t hand off to my HomePods from the phone. Yes the same 
Netwerk is being used. I got some stupid thing about how more than one device 
is playing music and shouldn’t I upgrade to a family plan. No, I shouldn’t. 
There weren’t any other devices playing music. I have tried unplugging and 
reconnecting the HomePods to absolutely no avail. These are really good 
speakers with really crappy shaky flaky implementation of pretty much 
everything except the annoying Siri which promises things and then doesn’t do 
them.


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Moore homePod issues, can’t hand off from my phone

2023-01-26 Thread Mary Otten
So now I also can’t hand off to my HomePods from the phone. Yes the same 
Netwerk is being used. I got some stupid thing about how more than one device 
is playing music and shouldn’t I upgrade to a family plan. No, I shouldn’t. 
There weren’t any other devices playing music. I have tried unplugging and 
reconnecting the HomePods to absolutely no avail. These are really good 
speakers with really crappy shaky flaky implementation of pretty much 
everything except the annoying Siri which promises things and then doesn’t do 
them.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I would say if you are in the Apple ecosysem Sonos is also very high up and it 
gives you a ton of options and chocies with respect to what you can get for 
which room. Of course you can't have Siri on it as a digital assistant (at 
least not yet), but you can have Alexa or Google Assistant (not both at the 
same time) and you can have the Sonos voice assistant at the same tiem as 
Alexa. Sonos voice assistant is not really for general inquiries, but it works 
amazingly well for grouping rooms, ungrouping them, changing volume and all the 
internal Sonos stuff. They are still very much the King in multi-room audio.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 
to 5 Mac

I think which speaker to get depends somewhat on what eco system you are in and 
what you want your speaker to do. If sound quality is your absolute top 
priority, and especially if you use an Iphone, than yes, a homepod might be the 
best choice. If your top priority is the best smart home device support, Amazon 
is probably the best choice with Google nest close behind. When it comes to 
providing the best and most detailed answers to questions, Google is the clear 
winner. Each also provide their own music service but interestingly, Apple 
music is the only service that can be played on all three of them. For me at 
least, I want the best assistant and the best smart home device support which 
is why I have an Echo and a Google Home, the sound quality is sufficient with 
those, I have no interest in getting a homepod because the assistant and device 
support are far behind the other two.

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 3:21 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I know. But the frustrating thing is the regression. Things that they 
> used to do well they don’t do well anymore. I’ve totally given up on much of 
> anything to do with sports and Alexa. Useless. Not always, but most of the 
> time. I can understand if they don’t know. But sometimes you might ask 
> questions a and get a response that’s totally not related. That’s happening a 
> lot more with Alexa these days, at least for me. I don’t get it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> That is why it is called "artificial intelligence."
>> Much like artificial nails, hair, etc.  It might be a good imitation of 
>> intelligence, but it is not intelligence.
>> 
>> To think people are considering trusting this technology to drive cars ... 
>> not me!
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>> the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and 
>> HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
>> 
>> Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I 
>> can’t count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or 
>> misses the question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound 
>> between the older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one 
>> according to a brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot 
>> better. So if you like really good sound, wait for this to go down in price 
>> to 250 and pick up a pair. I think the home assistant thing is frankly quite 
>> overblown. I get enough incorrect answers even from Google.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, 
>>> if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities 
>>> are far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far 
>>> behind the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support 
>>> will help with that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and 
>>> Amazon Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod 
>>> because of its lack of abilities in these areas.
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>>>> 
>>>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and H

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-21 Thread Mike Arrigo
I think which speaker to get depends somewhat on what eco system you are in and 
what you want your speaker to do. If sound quality is your absolute top 
priority, and especially if you use an Iphone, than yes, a homepod might be the 
best choice. If your top priority is the best smart home device support, Amazon 
is probably the best choice with Google nest close behind. When it comes to 
providing the best and most detailed answers to questions, Google is the clear 
winner. Each also provide their own music service but interestingly, Apple 
music is the only service that can be played on all three of them. For me at 
least, I want the best assistant and the best smart home device support which 
is why I have an Echo and a Google Home, the sound quality is sufficient with 
those, I have no interest in getting a homepod because the assistant and device 
support are far behind the other two.

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 3:21 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I know. But the frustrating thing is the regression. Things that they 
> used to do well they don’t do well anymore. I’ve totally given up on much of 
> anything to do with sports and Alexa. Useless. Not always, but most of the 
> time. I can understand if they don’t know. But sometimes you might ask 
> questions a and get a response that’s totally not related. That’s happening a 
> lot more with Alexa these days, at least for me. I don’t get it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> That is why it is called "artificial intelligence."
>> Much like artificial nails, hair, etc.  It might be a good imitation of 
>> intelligence, but it is not intelligence.
>> 
>> To think people are considering trusting this technology to drive cars ... 
>> not me!
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 
>> 9 to 5 Mac
>> 
>> Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I 
>> can’t count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or 
>> misses the question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound 
>> between the older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one 
>> according to a brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot 
>> better. So if you like really good sound, wait for this to go down in price 
>> to 250 and pick up a pair. I think the home assistant thing is frankly quite 
>> overblown. I get enough incorrect answers even from Google.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, 
>>> if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities 
>>> are far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far 
>>> behind the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support 
>>> will help with that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and 
>>> Amazon Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod 
>>> because of its lack of abilities in these areas.
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>>>> 
>>>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 
>>>> 5 Mac
>>>> 
>>>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>>>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>>>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities 
>>>> and changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs 
>>>> the original vs HomePod mini too.
>>>> 
>>>> Background
>>>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>>>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>>>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>>>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I don't use my fourth generation echo for all that much.  I ask it the
time, how to spell words and sometimes as a bluetooth speaker for my
phone.  It does have pretty good sound.  I got it for $60 which was an
awesome price.

On 1/20/23, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Yes, I know. But the frustrating thing is the regression. Things that they
> used to do well they don’t do well anymore. I’ve totally given up on much of
> anything to do with sports and Alexa. Useless. Not always, but most of the
> time. I can understand if they don’t know. But sometimes you might ask
> questions a and get a response that’s totally not related. That’s happening
> a lot more with Alexa these days, at least for me. I don’t get it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mary,
>> That is why it is called "artificial intelligence."
>> Much like artificial nails, hair, etc.  It might be a good imitation of
>> intelligence, but it is not intelligence.
>>
>> To think people are considering trusting this technology to drive cars ...
>> not me!
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
>> Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod
>> Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
>>
>> Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I
>> can’t count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or
>> misses the question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound
>> between the older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one
>> according to a brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot
>> better. So if you like really good sound, wait for this to go down in
>> price to 250 and pick up a pair. I think the home assistant thing is
>> frankly quite overblown. I get enough incorrect answers even from Google.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>
>>> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod
>>> though, if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s
>>> capabilities are far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device
>>> support is far behind the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted,
>>> the matter support will help with that somewhat, still, while I already
>>> have a google home and Amazon Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or
>>> recommend the home pod because of its lack of abilities in these areas.
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>>>>
>>>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to
>>>> 5 Mac
>>>>
>>>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a
>>>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the
>>>> features remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new
>>>> capabilities and changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look
>>>> at HomePod 2 vs the original vs HomePod mini too.
>>>>
>>>> Background
>>>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price
>>>> above competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price
>>>> to $299. Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more
>>>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the
>>>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>>>>
>>>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered
>>>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong
>>>> bass, Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>>>>
>>>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen
>>>> model arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity
>>>> sensor, updated Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the
>>>> design.
>>>>
>>>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
>>>>
>>>> For the m

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-20 Thread Mary Otten
Yes, I know. But the frustrating thing is the regression. Things that they used 
to do well they don’t do well anymore. I’ve totally given up on much of 
anything to do with sports and Alexa. Useless. Not always, but most of the 
time. I can understand if they don’t know. But sometimes you might ask 
questions a and get a response that’s totally not related. That’s happening a 
lot more with Alexa these days, at least for me. I don’t get it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> That is why it is called "artificial intelligence."
> Much like artificial nails, hair, etc.  It might be a good imitation of 
> intelligence, but it is not intelligence.
> 
> To think people are considering trusting this technology to drive cars ... 
> not me!
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 
> 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I 
> can’t count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or 
> misses the question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound 
> between the older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one 
> according to a brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot better. 
> So if you like really good sound, wait for this to go down in price to 250 
> and pick up a pair. I think the home assistant thing is frankly quite 
> overblown. I get enough incorrect answers even from Google.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, 
>> if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities are 
>> far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far behind 
>> the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support will 
>> help with that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and 
>> Amazon Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod 
>> because of its lack of abilities in these areas.
>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>>> 
>>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 
>>> 5 Mac
>>> 
>>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities 
>>> and changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs 
>>> the original vs HomePod mini too.
>>> 
>>> Background
>>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>>> 
>>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>>> 
>>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>>> 
>>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
>>> 
>>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>>> 
>>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for 
>>> real-time tuning.
>>> 
>>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with 

RE: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-20 Thread Richard Turner
Mary,
That is why it is called "artificial intelligence."
Much like artificial nails, hair, etc.  It might be a good imitation of 
intelligence, but it is not intelligence.

To think people are considering trusting this technology to drive cars ... not 
me!

Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 
to 5 Mac

Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I can’t 
count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or misses the 
question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound between the 
older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one according to a 
brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot better. So if you like 
really good sound, wait for this to go down in price to 250 and pick up a pair. 
I think the home assistant thing is frankly quite overblown. I get enough 
incorrect answers even from Google.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, 
> if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities are 
> far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far behind 
> the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support will 
> help with that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and Amazon 
> Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod because of 
> its lack of abilities in these areas.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>> 
>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 
>> 5 Mac
>> 
>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
>> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
>> original vs HomePod mini too.
>> 
>> Background
>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>> 
>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>> 
>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>> 
>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
>> 
>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>> 
>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>> 
>> 
>> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Room sensing ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Beamforming ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅ ✅ ✅ Real-time tuning 
>> Advanced computational audio with system sensing for real-time 
>> tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning Computational audio 
>> for real-time tuning Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅ ✅ ✅ Home theater with 
>> Apple TV 4K ✅ ✅ ✅ but no Atmos Auto bass correction ✅ ✅ ❌
>> 
>> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
>> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
>> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
>> 
>> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
>> full-size smart speaker gets 

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-20 Thread Mary Otten
Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I can’t 
count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or misses the 
question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound between the 
older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one according to a 
brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot better. So if you like 
really good sound, wait for this to go down in price to 250 and pick up a pair. 
I think the home assistant thing is frankly quite overblown. I get enough 
incorrect answers even from Google.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, 
> if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities are 
> far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far behind 
> the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support will 
> help with that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and Amazon 
> Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod because of 
> its lack of abilities in these areas.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>> 
>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
>> 
>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
>> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
>> original vs HomePod mini too.
>> 
>> Background
>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>> 
>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>> 
>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>> 
>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
>> Audio tech and features
>> 
>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>> 
>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>> 
>> 
>> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Room sensing ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Beamforming ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅ ✅ ✅
>> Real-time tuning Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
>> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning Computational audio 
>> for real-time tuning
>> Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅ ✅ ✅
>> Home theater with Apple TV 4K ✅ ✅ ✅ but no Atmos
>> Auto bass correction ✅ ✅ ❌
>> 
>> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
>> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
>> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
>> 
>> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
>> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
>> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the 
>> HomePod mini.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
>> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
>> HomeKit + Siri ✅ ✅ ✅
>> Thread/Matter ✅ ❌ ✅
>> WiFi 802.11n 802.11ac 802.11n
>> Bluetooth 5.0 5.0 5.0
>> U1 chip ✅ ❌ ✅
>> Apple Silicon S7 A8 S5
>> Sound recognition ✅ (likely this spring) ❌ ✅ (likely this spring)
>> Temperature and humidity sensor ✅ ❌ ✅
>> Intercom ✅ ✅ ✅
>> 
>

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-20 Thread Mike Arrigo
Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, if 
you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities are far 
behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far behind the 
other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support will help with 
that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and Amazon Echo, it 
would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod because of its lack 
of abilities in these areas.

> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
> 
> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
> original vs HomePod mini too.
> 
> Background
> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
> 
> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
> HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby 
> Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
> 
> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
> 
> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
> Audio tech and features
> 
> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
> the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
> connectivity, and sensors).
> 
> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
> tuning.
> 
> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
> 
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅ ✅ ❌
> Room sensing ✅ ✅ ❌
> Beamforming ✅ ✅ ❌
> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅ ✅ ✅
> Real-time tuning Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning Computational audio 
> for real-time tuning
> Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅ ✅ ✅
> Home theater with Apple TV 4K ✅ ✅ ✅ but no Atmos
> Auto bass correction ✅ ✅ ❌
> 
> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
> 
> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod 
> mini.
> 
> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
> HomeKit + Siri ✅ ✅ ✅
> Thread/Matter ✅ ❌ ✅
> WiFi 802.11n 802.11ac 802.11n
> Bluetooth 5.0 5.0 5.0
> U1 chip ✅ ❌ ✅
> Apple Silicon S7 A8 S5
> Sound recognition ✅ (likely this spring) ❌ ✅ (likely this spring)
> Temperature and humidity sensor ✅ ❌ ✅
> Intercom ✅ ✅ ✅
> 
> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the original 
> but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch surface also 
> appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
> Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe 
> it’s thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to the 
> switch from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.
> 
> Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however, 
> that’s really just used for the setup, not music playback.
> 
> Notably, more new features are coming to all HomePods with the upcoming 16.3 
> release:
> Speakers and mics
> HomePod 2 internals via Apple 
> 
> There are some interesting tweaks when it comes to the speakers and mics. 
> First, Apple hints the high-excursion woofer is bigger. The new HomePod has a 
> 4-inch woofer while the size of the original wasn’t disclosed by Apple.
> 
> Other changes

RE: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I think of smart speakers a bit like browsers, they all have their strength and 
weaknesses. We have Alexa speakers and all our Sonos speakers which support a 
digital assistant are set up for Alexa in addition to the relatively new Sonos 
voice assistant, but we also have a few Google smartspeakers around the  house.
We have quite a few smart home devices and while our Philips Hue lights work 
also with Siri, all in all you still find more devices which support Alexa and 
Google although I hope that as Matter becomes more widely adopted this will 
really open up the smart  home field to all players.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
Olivares
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 8:49 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 
to 5 Mac

I was just wondering about this. How did others like the HomePod 1? I’m 
thinking of getting the HomePod 2 and moving away from Alexa. I really want to 
get 2 of them and pair them for stereo.

> On Jan 18, 2023, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
> 
> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 
> Mac
> 
> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
> original vs HomePod mini too.
> 
> Background
> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
> 
> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
> HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby 
> Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
> 
> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
> 
> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
> 
> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
> the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
> connectivity, and sensors).
> 
> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
> tuning.
> 
> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
> 
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1   HomePod mini
> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅   ✅   ❌
> Room sensing  ✅   ✅   ❌
> Beamforming   ✅   ✅   ❌
> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅   ✅   ✅
> Real-time tuning  Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational 
> audio for real-time tuning
> Multiroom AirPlay audio   ✅   ✅   ✅
> Home theater with Apple TV 4K ✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
> Auto bass correction  ✅   ✅   ❌
> 
> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
> 
> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod 
> mini.
> 
> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1   HomePod mini
> HomeKit + Siri✅   ✅   ✅
> Thread/Matter ✅   ❌   ✅
> WiFi  802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
> Bluetooth 5.0 5.0 5.0
> U1 chip   ✅   ❌   ✅
> Apple Silicon S7  A8  S5
> Sound recognition ✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
> Temperature and humidity sensor   ✅   ❌   ✅
> Intercom  ✅   ✅   ✅
> 
> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the original 
> but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch surface also 
> appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
> Strangely,

RE: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Not very tempting for somebody like me who is very much into Sonos. Sonos is 
going to release new speakers called Optima this year which I imagine will 
first replace the Sonos Five as that is one of their most dated speakers, but I 
think a Sonos One version of them is also in the works. I expect a significant 
sound upgrade from the Five with these. They won't have a temperature and 
humidity sensor and I doubt they'll be Matter enabled, but the word is that 
apart from connecting to your Wi-Fi and supporting Airplay 2 these new speakers 
will also be able to work fully in Bluetooth mode and anybody who is serious 
about wanting to build a whole house music system will still prefer the large 
offering of Sonos with a surround setup for the living room, various 
stand-alone smart speakers which can all be set up as stereo pairs, the 
portable Move and Roam as well as their Sonos Amp which can connec to bookshelf 
or in-wall/in-ceiling speakers. Thn there is also the Port which you can 
connect to an existing stereo receiver or Amp to tie it into your Sonos system 
and lastly you have the full sized wireless Sub and the recently released Sub 
Mini which you can add to any speaker setup you have to add more base and in 
fact you can add a pair of Sonos Sub if you want even more base performance for 
example to your surround sound setup. There is also talk about a new even 
larger Sub than the one they have now and maybe 2023 will finally be the year 
when there will be a Sonos audio file quality headset; Sonos typically releases 
2 new products a year and they are also targeting new categories so a headset 
would definitely be a new category.

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Subject: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 
Mac

9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM

Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
original vs HomePod mini too.

Background
Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. Then 
the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more mass-market-focused 
$99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the full-size HomePod in March of 
2021.

While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby Atmos 
support, beamforming, and room sensing.

Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.

HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
 
For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
connectivity, and sensors).

The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
“advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original HomePod 
and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time tuning.
But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
since the mini doesn’t offer that.


HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos   ✅   ✅   ❌
Room sensing✅   ✅   ❌
Beamforming ✅   ✅   ❌
Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen)   ✅   ✅   ✅
Real-time tuningAdvanced computational audio with system sensing for 
real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational audio 
for real-time tuning
Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅   ✅   ✅
Home theater with Apple TV 4K   ✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
Auto bass correction✅   ✅   ❌

One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
Smart home, sensors, connectivity
 
Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new full-size 
smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for improved 
iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod mini.

HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.

HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
HomeKit + Siri  ✅   ✅   ✅
Thread/Matter   ✅   ❌   ✅
WiFi802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
Bluetooth   5.0 5.0 5.0
U1 chip

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-18 Thread Devin Prater
Mine was really good, until it mysteriously stopped working.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:48 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> I was just wondering about this. How did others like the HomePod 1? I’m 
> thinking of getting the HomePod 2 and moving away from Alexa. I really want 
> to get 2 of them and pair them for stereo.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>> 
>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
>> 
>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
>> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
>> original vs HomePod mini too.
>> 
>> Background
>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>> 
>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>> 
>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>> 
>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
>> Audio tech and features
>> 
>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>> 
>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>> 
>> 
>> HomePod 2HomePod 1   HomePod mini
>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos✅   ✅   ❌
>> Room sensing ✅   ✅   ❌
>> Beamforming  ✅   ✅   ❌
>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen)✅   ✅   ✅
>> Real-time tuning Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
>> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational 
>> audio for real-time tuning
>> Multiroom AirPlay audio      ✅   ✅   ✅
>> Home theater with Apple TV 4K✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
>> Auto bass correction ✅   ✅   ❌
>> 
>> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
>> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
>> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
>> 
>> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
>> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
>> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the 
>> HomePod mini.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
>> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
>> 
>> HomePod 2HomePod 1   HomePod mini
>> HomeKit + Siri   ✅   ✅   ✅
>> Thread/Matter✅   ❌   ✅
>> WiFi 802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
>> Bluetooth5.0 5.0 5.0
>> U1 chip  ✅   ❌   ✅
>> Apple SiliconS7  A8  S5
>> Sound recognition✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
>> Temperature and humidity sensor  ✅   ❌   ✅
>> Intercom ✅   ✅   ✅
>> 
>> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the 
>> original but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch 
>> surface also appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
>> Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe 
>> it’s thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to 
>> the switch from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.
>> 
>> Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the 

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-18 Thread Brandon Olivares
I was just wondering about this. How did others like the HomePod 1? I’m 
thinking of getting the HomePod 2 and moving away from Alexa. I really want to 
get 2 of them and pair them for stereo.

> On Jan 18, 2023, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
> 
> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
> original vs HomePod mini too.
> 
> Background
> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
> 
> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
> HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby 
> Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
> 
> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
> 
> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
> Audio tech and features
> 
> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
> the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
> connectivity, and sensors).
> 
> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
> tuning.
> 
> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
> 
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1   HomePod mini
> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅   ✅   ❌
> Room sensing  ✅   ✅   ❌
> Beamforming   ✅   ✅   ❌
> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅   ✅   ✅
> Real-time tuning  Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational 
> audio for real-time tuning
> Multiroom AirPlay audio   ✅   ✅   ✅
> Home theater with Apple TV 4K ✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
> Auto bass correction  ✅   ✅   ❌
> 
> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
> 
> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod 
> mini.
> 
> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1   HomePod mini
> HomeKit + Siri✅   ✅   ✅
> Thread/Matter ✅   ❌   ✅
> WiFi  802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
> Bluetooth 5.0 5.0 5.0
> U1 chip   ✅   ❌   ✅
> Apple Silicon S7  A8  S5
> Sound recognition ✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
> Temperature and humidity sensor   ✅   ❌   ✅
> Intercom  ✅   ✅   ✅
> 
> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the original 
> but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch surface also 
> appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
> Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe 
> it’s thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to the 
> switch from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.
> 
> Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however, 
> that’s really just used for the setup, not music playback.
> 
> Notably, more new features are coming to all HomePods with the upcoming 16.3 
> release:
> Speakers and mics
> HomePod 2 internals via Apple 
> 
> There are some interesting tweaks when it comes to the speakers and mics. 
> First, Apple hints the high-excursion woofer is bigger. The new HomePod has a 
> 4-inch woofer while the size of the original wasn’t disclosed by Apple.
> 
> Other changes see the 7-array tweeter of the original simplified to 5 for 
&

Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-01-18 Thread M. Taylor
9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM

Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
original vs HomePod mini too.

Background
Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. Then 
the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more mass-market-focused 
$99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the full-size HomePod in March of 
2021.

While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby Atmos 
support, beamforming, and room sensing.

Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.

HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
Audio tech and features
 
For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
connectivity, and sensors).

The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
“advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original HomePod 
and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time tuning.

But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
since the mini doesn’t offer that.


HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos   ✅   ✅   ❌
Room sensing✅   ✅   ❌
Beamforming ✅   ✅   ❌
Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen)   ✅   ✅   ✅
Real-time tuningAdvanced computational audio with system sensing for 
real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational audio 
for real-time tuning
Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅   ✅   ✅
Home theater with Apple TV 4K   ✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
Auto bass correction✅   ✅   ❌

One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
Smart home, sensors, connectivity
 
Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new full-size 
smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for improved 
iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod mini.

HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.

HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
HomeKit + Siri  ✅   ✅   ✅
Thread/Matter   ✅   ❌   ✅
WiFi802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
Bluetooth   5.0 5.0 5.0
U1 chip ✅   ❌   ✅
Apple Silicon   S7  A8  S5
Sound recognition   ✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
Temperature and humidity sensor ✅   ❌   ✅
Intercom✅   ✅   ✅

The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the original 
but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch surface also 
appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe it’s 
thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to the switch 
from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.

Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however, 
that’s really just used for the setup, not music playback.

Notably, more new features are coming to all HomePods with the upcoming 16.3 
release:
Speakers and mics
 HomePod 2 internals via Apple 

There are some interesting tweaks when it comes to the speakers and mics. 
First, Apple hints the high-excursion woofer is bigger. The new HomePod has a 
4-inch woofer while the size of the original wasn’t disclosed by Apple.

Other changes see the 7-array tweeter of the original simplified to 5 for 
HomePod, and the far-field mics are also reduced from 6 to 4.

HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
Woofer  4-inch high-excursion wooferHigh-excursion woofer   ❌
Speakers5-array horn-loaded tweeters7-array horn-loaded tweeters
Full-range driver and dual passive radiators
Far-field mics  4   6   4

Apple must be confident it has achieved the same or better sound quality, 
output, and input as the original HomePod with fewer tweeters and mics. It 
describes the HomePod 2 as offering “immersive, high-fidelity audio.”

Here’s how Apple describes the new HomePod 2 woofer:
“A high excursion woofer packs HomePod with deep, rich bass. Its powerful motor 
drives the diaphragm a remarkable 20

Re: Homepod Mini alarms

2022-11-30 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hello Sieghard,

Thanks, but that I already knew all. 
And I just learned it’s the same with Homepod: only one standard alarm tone, 
which cannot be changed except for music.

Very strange indeed.

Ronald

> Op 30 nov. 2022, om 20:06 heeft Sieghard Weitzel  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
>  
> You can change the alarm sound on any Google Nest speaker with a display. If 
> you have a Google Home or Nest speaker, you can't change the actual alarm 
> tone, but you can still ask Google Assistant to play a specific song, a song 
> from an artist or even just a genre and you can also set so-called character 
> alarms.
> I just tried this by saying the following:
> Hey Google, set a media alarm for 10:47 AM" (it was 10:46 so I just set the 
> alarm for the next minute to test it).
> As soon as I said this Google asked:
> And what would you like me to play?
> I said:
> Eye of the Tiger (that was given as one of the examples in the article for 
> which I am including a link below).
> Google then said:
> OK, I'll play the Eye of the Tiger for 10:47 AM
>  
> You can also say "Hey Google, set a character alarm for 7 AM" (just as an 
> example).
> Google will say "OK, 7 AM, you can pick Lego, Ninja Turtles or  Hatchimals"
> If you say Hatchimals there seems to be no further prompting, but if you say 
> "Lego" or "Ninja Turtles" you have the following options, Google will ask you 
> to pick one: 
>  
> For Lego:
> Lego Friends
> Lego City
> Lego Friends
> Lego Life
>  
> For Ninja Turtles:
> Michael Angelo
> Raphael
> Leonardo
> Donatello
> April O'Neil
>  
> Of course if you know you want Donatello, for example, you can simply say 
> "Hey Google, set a Donatello alarm for 7 AM" and Google will say "OK, your 
> aalarm with Donatello is set for 7 AM".
>  
> Here is the link to the article from Lifewire:
> How to Change the Alarm Sound on Google Home 
> <https://www.lifewire.com/change-alarm-sound-on-google-home-5183884>
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Ronald van Rhijn
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Homepod Mini alarms
>  
> Hi,
>  
> To all Homepod Mini users. Could you please tell me what the standard alarm 
> tone is on it? Is it the same as on iPhone the usual alarm sound?
> And is it possible to change it to another tone? I don’t mean music, that I 
> don’t need.
> I am asking this because on Google Home/Nest it isn’t possible to change the 
> alarm tone and you are stuck with the one that comes with the device.
>  
> Thanks,
> Ronald
>  
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RE: Homepod Mini alarms

2022-11-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ronald,



You can change the alarm sound on any Google Nest speaker with a display. If 
you have a Google Home or Nest speaker, you can't change the actual alarm tone, 
but you can still ask Google Assistant to play a specific song, a song from an 
artist or even just a genre and you can also set so-called character alarms.

I just tried this by saying the following:

Hey Google, set a media alarm for 10:47 AM" (it was 10:46 so I just set the 
alarm for the next minute to test it).

As soon as I said this Google asked:

And what would you like me to play?

I said:

Eye of the Tiger (that was given as one of the examples in the article for 
which I am including a link below).

Google then said:

OK, I'll play the Eye of the Tiger for 10:47 AM



You can also say "Hey Google, set a character alarm for 7 AM" (just as an 
example).

Google will say "OK, 7 AM, you can pick Lego, Ninja Turtles or  Hatchimals"

If you say Hatchimals there seems to be no further prompting, but if you say 
"Lego" or "Ninja Turtles" you have the following options, Google will ask you 
to pick one:



For Lego:

Lego Friends

Lego City

Lego Friends

Lego Life



For Ninja Turtles:

Michael Angelo

Raphael

Leonardo

Donatello

April O'Neil



Of course if you know you want Donatello, for example, you can simply say "Hey 
Google, set a Donatello alarm for 7 AM" and Google will say "OK, your aalarm 
with Donatello is set for 7 AM".



Here is the link to the article from Lifewire:

How to Change the Alarm Sound on Google 
Home<https://www.lifewire.com/change-alarm-sound-on-google-home-5183884>



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ronald 
van Rhijn
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Homepod Mini alarms



Hi,



To all Homepod Mini users. Could you please tell me what the standard alarm 
tone is on it? Is it the same as on iPhone the usual alarm sound?

And is it possible to change it to another tone? I don’t mean music, that I 
don’t need.

I am asking this because on Google Home/Nest it isn’t possible to change the 
alarm tone and you are stuck with the one that comes with the device.



Thanks,

Ronald



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Homepod Mini alarms

2022-11-30 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi,

To all Homepod Mini users. Could you please tell me what the standard alarm 
tone is on it? Is it the same as on iPhone the usual alarm sound?
And is it possible to change it to another tone? I don’t mean music, that I 
don’t need.
I am asking this because on Google Home/Nest it isn’t possible to change the 
alarm tone and you are stuck with the one that comes with the device.

Thanks,
Ronald

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RE: My HomePod will not play music

2021-12-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Call Apple Accessibility

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Subject: My HomePod will not play music

I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and to 
sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using the 
Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I 
couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already in my 
library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. I can hand 
off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These things used to work 
fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does anybody have any suggestions?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: My HomePod will not play music

2021-12-04 Thread Jennie Facer
HI Mary,

Have you tried unplugging your home pod and leaving it unplugged for at least 5 
seconds? Then when you plug it back in, put your finger on the middle of the 
HomePod until your phone or HomePod resets. That is the only way I can think of 
right off the top of my head.

Thanks.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and to 
> sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using the 
> Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I 
> couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already in my 
> library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. I can 
> hand off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These things used 
> to work fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does anybody have any 
> suggestions?
> 
> 
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My HomePod will not play music

2021-12-04 Thread Mary Otten
I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and to 
sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using the 
Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I 
couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already in my 
library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. I can hand 
off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These things used to work 
fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does anybody have any suggestions?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: HomePod problem

2021-09-16 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks, Ed. I didn’t have to do anything with my router. I did a whole lot of 
Google searching, and finally went into the app for my router and found out 
that my HomePods were not online, even though they should be on the same 
network as my iPhone. I ended up having to unpaired the speakers and restart 
them. I guess all is well that ends well. This is the first time that has 
happened to me with the HomePods and hopefully the last.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 6:56 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
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> Hey Mary,
> 
> I have had this issue as well. I actually had to go as far as restarting my 
> wireless router for anything to help.
> 
> I can proudly say I’ve only had this issue once. I guess it was luck, maybe…
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a stereo pair of HomePods which was working just fine yesterday. This 
>> evening, I went to watch my Apple TV through the HomePods, and they are not 
>> responding at all. Siri doesn’t respond. Touching the top of the homePod 
>> eels no sound, and in the home app, I am informed on helpfully that this 
>> device is not responding. No kidding. This device requires attention. But 
>> they don’t give me any hint as to what kind of attention or how I might find 
>> out. I unplug them and re-plugged them, and I got the sound that indicates 
>> that they came back on. But they do not work at all, and I can’t find 
>> anything useful from Apple support site. Does anybody have any idea what 
>> kind of attention the device might require aside from a sledgehammer?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: HomePod problem

2021-09-16 Thread Ed Worrell
Hey Mary,

I have had this issue as well. I actually had to go as far as restarting my 
wireless router for anything to help.

I can proudly say I’ve only had this issue once. I guess it was luck, maybe…

Ed


> On Sep 15, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have a stereo pair of HomePods which was working just fine yesterday. This 
> evening, I went to watch my Apple TV through the HomePods, and they are not 
> responding at all. Siri doesn’t respond. Touching the top of the homePod eels 
> no sound, and in the home app, I am informed on helpfully that this device is 
> not responding. No kidding. This device requires attention. But they don’t 
> give me any hint as to what kind of attention or how I might find out. I 
> unplug them and re-plugged them, and I got the sound that indicates that they 
> came back on. But they do not work at all, and I can’t find anything useful 
> from Apple support site. Does anybody have any idea what kind of attention 
> the device might require aside from a sledgehammer?
> Mary
> 
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HomePod problem

2021-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
I have a stereo pair of HomePods which was working just fine yesterday. This 
evening, I went to watch my Apple TV through the HomePods, and they are not 
responding at all. Siri doesn’t respond. Touching the top of the homePod eels 
no sound, and in the home app, I am informed on helpfully that this device is 
not responding. No kidding. This device requires attention. But they don’t give 
me any hint as to what kind of attention or how I might find out. I unplug them 
and re-plugged them, and I got the sound that indicates that they came back on. 
But they do not work at all, and I can’t find anything useful from Apple 
support site. Does anybody have any idea what kind of attention the device 
might require aside from a sledgehammer?
Mary

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RE: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

2021-03-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I have an echo dot and sonos speakers 
And I don't believe I'd go passed sonos as my first choice for sound system 
products.

There may be other things out there but sonos is my choice.

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Arrigo
Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 2:14 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod 
Mini, USA Today

I don't have a home pod or a home pod mini, but based on the reviews I have 
read, Apple is far behind in terms of the capabilities of the home pod devices 
compared to the Amazon Echo and Google home, I have both of those. I would say 
the Echo and google home are about equal in what they can do, sometimes one is 
better than the other, but I have not read any review that has said the home 
pods are better as far as capabilities go.

> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, I knew this day would come.  I did not think it would happen so 
> soon but .
> 
> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was 
> to add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to 
> customize the sounds balance.  This feature has long since been 
> available on the Amazon Echo devices.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, 
> USA Today
> 
> Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts 
> on HomePod mini
> 
> Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first 
> releasing the smart speaker.
> 
> The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus 
> on its new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99.
> "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be 
> available while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple 
> Retail Stores and Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a 
> statement, reported by TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod 
> mini."
> 
> Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for 
> comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's 
> website with the mini available for $99.
> 
> Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original 
> HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the 
> speaker did little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales 
> of Amazon's Echo, the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was 
> originally called the Google Home.
> 
> The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as 
> calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom 
> and the ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple 
> device, even AirPods.
> 
> The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies 
> tuning models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in 
> November, Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your 
> iPhone is near so music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to 
> HomePod mini and trigger visual and haptic responses on the phone.
> 
> In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 
> 2021 fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago.
> 
> The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new 
> revenue high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October 
> through December 2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more 
> during the coronavirus pandemic.
> 
> Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA 
> TODAY
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinu
> ed-app le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/
> 
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Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

2021-03-15 Thread Anthony Vece
I have been pondering for the longest time getting a new stereo system.
I’ve had surroundsound system since I got my first stereo system in 1971.
I really don’t know what to buy.
I had an Apple HomePod but it was a paperweight as far as I was concerned.
It sounded wonderful it really did I have to admit that.
However; it wouldn’t do any more for me than my iPhone or my iPad would do in 
terms of Siri.
so, I bit the bullet and I bought two 4th generation echoes.
They sound pretty good..
I know there are other speakers that sound much better.
However the speakers are more than adequate for me.
That’s just my humble opinion.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I don't have a home pod or a home pod mini, but based on the reviews I have 
> read, Apple is far behind in terms of the capabilities of the home pod 
> devices compared to the Amazon Echo and Google home, I have both of those. I 
> would say the Echo and google home are about equal in what they can do, 
> sometimes one is better than the other, but I have not read any review that 
> has said the home pods are better as far as capabilities go.
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, I knew this day would come.  I did not think it would happen so soon
>> but .
>> 
>> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to
>> add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the
>> sounds balance.  This feature has long since been available on the Amazon
>> Echo devices.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA
>> Today
>> 
>> Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on
>> HomePod mini
>> 
>> Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing
>> the smart speaker.
>> 
>> The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its
>> new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99.
>> "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available
>> while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and
>> Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by
>> TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini."
>> 
>> Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for
>> comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website
>> with the mini available for $99.
>> 
>> Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original
>> HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did
>> little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo,
>> the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the
>> Google Home.
>> 
>> The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as
>> calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the
>> ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even
>> AirPods.
>> 
>> The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning
>> models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November,
>> Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so
>> music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger
>> visual and haptic responses on the phone.
>> 
>> In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021
>> fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago.
>> 
>> The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue
>> high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December
>> 2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus
>> pandemic. 
>> 
>> Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app
>> le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/
>> 
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Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

2021-03-15 Thread Mike Arrigo
I don't have a home pod or a home pod mini, but based on the reviews I have 
read, Apple is far behind in terms of the capabilities of the home pod devices 
compared to the Amazon Echo and Google home, I have both of those. I would say 
the Echo and google home are about equal in what they can do, sometimes one is 
better than the other, but I have not read any review that has said the home 
pods are better as far as capabilities go.

> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, I knew this day would come.  I did not think it would happen so soon
> but .
> 
> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to
> add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the
> sounds balance.  This feature has long since been available on the Amazon
> Echo devices.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA
> Today
> 
> Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on
> HomePod mini
> 
> Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing
> the smart speaker.
> 
> The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its
> new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99.
> "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available
> while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and
> Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by
> TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini."
> 
> Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for
> comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website
> with the mini available for $99.
> 
> Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original
> HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did
> little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo,
> the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the
> Google Home.
> 
> The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as
> calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the
> ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even
> AirPods.
> 
> The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning
> models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November,
> Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so
> music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger
> visual and haptic responses on the phone.
> 
> In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021
> fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago.
> 
> The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue
> high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December
> 2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus
> pandemic. 
> 
> Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app
> le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/
> 
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RE: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

2021-03-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah we don't get the home pods here,
But I do wonder why apple don’t leave it up to sonos etc who specialise in  
this technology.

Mind you sonos,
Aren't we still waiting on headphones?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 6:26 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod 
Mini, USA Today

They should just open this up to third party companies like Sonos, Bose, 
Logitech and whoever else want to take a stab at it.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, 
USA Today

Hello Everyone,

Well, I knew this day would come.  I did not think it would happen so soon but .

Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to add a 
device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the sounds 
balance.  This feature has long since been available on the Amazon Echo devices.

Mark

Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on HomePod 
mini

Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing 
the smart speaker.

The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its 
new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99.
"We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available 
while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and 
Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by TechCrunch. 
"We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini."

Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for comment. 
As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website with the 
mini available for $99.

Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original HomePod, 
first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did little more 
than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo, the No. 1 
best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the Google Home.

The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as 
calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the 
ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even AirPods.

The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning models 
to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November, Apple said 
it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so music can easily 
transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger visual and haptic 
responses on the phone.

In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021 
fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago.

The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue high 
from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December 2020, as 
consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus pandemic. 

Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY

Original Article at:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app
le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/


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RE: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

2021-03-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
They should just open this up to third party companies like Sonos, Bose, 
Logitech and whoever else want to take a stab at it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, 
USA Today

Hello Everyone,

Well, I knew this day would come.  I did not think it would happen so soon but .

Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to add a 
device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the sounds 
balance.  This feature has long since been available on the Amazon Echo devices.

Mark

Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on HomePod 
mini

Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing 
the smart speaker.

The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its 
new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99.
"We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available 
while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and 
Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by TechCrunch. 
"We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini."

Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for comment. 
As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website with the 
mini available for $99.

Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original HomePod, 
first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did little more 
than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo, the No. 1 
best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the Google Home.

The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as 
calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the 
ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even AirPods.

The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning models 
to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November, Apple said 
it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so music can easily 
transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger visual and haptic 
responses on the phone.

In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021 
fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago.

The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue high 
from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December 2020, as 
consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus pandemic. 

Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY

Original Article at:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app
le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/


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Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

2021-03-14 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

Well, I knew this day would come.  I did not think it would happen so soon
but .

Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to
add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the
sounds balance.  This feature has long since been available on the Amazon
Echo devices.

Mark

Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA
Today

Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on
HomePod mini

Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing
the smart speaker.

The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its
new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99.
"We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available
while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and
Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by
TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini."

Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for
comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website
with the mini available for $99.

Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original
HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did
little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo,
the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the
Google Home.

The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as
calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the
ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even
AirPods.

The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning
models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November,
Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so
music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger
visual and haptic responses on the phone.

In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021
fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago.

The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue
high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December
2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus
pandemic. 

Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY

Original Article at:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app
le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/


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Re: iphone transferring to Homepod questions.

2020-11-30 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
to transfer  iPhone to HomePod unlock the phone and hold it just above the Pod 
and it will move what is playing on the phone to the Pod.
So as long as there is something playing on the phone the Pod will keep playing.
To bring it back to the phone repeat the process and the phone will start 
playing what was on the Pod.
Max.

> On 30 Nov 2020, at 4:03 pm, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> Hello, some general questions about transferring from iphone to either the 
> Homepod or the mini. I have neither one, but am planning on getting the 
> regular Homepod and possibly the mini for another room. I'm interested in the 
> transfer feature, and would use this to basically play most of my audio. My 
> question is if I hold the iphone up to the Homepod to transfer music or a 
> podcast, Voiceover stays on the iphone unless I change the audio destination? 
> Also, when the music or podcast ends, does the next piece of music or next 
> podcast still stay on the Homepod, or does it return back to the iphone so 
> that I need to hold the phone up to the Homepod again? How far away can I be 
> with the iphone before it disconnects from the Homepod and comes back to the 
> iphone itself? Does the connection drop after a while?
> Thanks,
> Mathew
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iphone transferring to Homepod questions.

2020-11-29 Thread Matthew Bullis
Hello, some general questions about transferring from iphone to either the 
Homepod or the mini. I have neither one, but am planning on getting the regular 
Homepod and possibly the mini for another room. I'm interested in the transfer 
feature, and would use this to basically play most of my audio. My question is 
if I hold the iphone up to the Homepod to transfer music or a podcast, 
Voiceover stays on the iphone unless I change the audio destination? Also, when 
the music or podcast ends, does the next piece of music or next podcast still 
stay on the Homepod, or does it return back to the iphone so that I need to 
hold the phone up to the Homepod again? How far away can I be with the iphone 
before it disconnects from the Homepod and comes back to the iphone itself? 
Does the connection drop after a while?
Thanks,
Mathew

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RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It should be very seamless, just hold your phone right next to the top of the 
HomePod and it should take over playing whatever you were playing on your 
iPhone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi all, there are features of the Homepod Mini that interest me, but honestly, 
it is mostly for the airplay capabilities.  I want to use my i'devices and play 
from the apps. Pandora, Bard Moble, Amazon Music. Would you say this is pretty 
seemless '? Airplaying music via Apple TV is a pain. 

Thanks,
Traci 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I don't care that much for apple music.  I tried it with a free 
> subscriptionand quickly canceled it.  I've got a google home and I 
> think it has way much more music to choose from then apple does.  When 
> I listen to music, I listen to a lot of bluegrass and classic country 
> and apple music just doesn't have very much of that genre when 
> compared to google.  Also, with Siri, I can get her to play things 
> from youtube music, or use my google assistant which both youtube 
> music and google assistant are both working great now with IOS 13.7.
> I like that I've got loads of music at my disposal if I say go over to 
> my sisters house for thanksgiving and want to listen to some music 
> while using a set of bluetooth headphones.  It all depends on what 
> smartspeaker you are most familiar with.
> 
>> On 11/27/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I 
>> would like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff 
>> I want her to play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can 
>> easily get played on Google devices, thinking of foreign radio 
>> stations in particular. How would you compare the homePod mini to the 
>> homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to have the same sound. I don’t 
>> know if you have echoes. But I would be curious comparing that 
>> HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience there.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Traci and List,
>>> 
>>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple 
>>> Watches connected to my network.
>>> 
>>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are 
>>> perfect for me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. 
>>> I also have a Sonos system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic 
>>> and they can all be very easily controlled with Siri. You can have 
>>> music playing in one room, all rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>>> 
>>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So 
>>> controlling the HomePods with my voice is much easier and more 
>>> seamless than trying to control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get 
>>> me wrong, the Sonos sounds great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy 
>>> as the HomePods are.
>>> Again, the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with 
>>> Apple devices and if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod 
>>>> mini is the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>>>> 
>>>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>>>> 
>>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Traci
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RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Apparently the new Nest Audio speakers which sell for the same price as the 
HomePod Mini are supposed to sound very good for that price range of speakers.
I think for somebody who has a Sonos system set up with Alexa there is not as 
much need for a HomePod, you can set up Apple Music as your default service in 
the Alexa app so I can ask any of my Sonos speakers to play whatever music I 
want to hear and it will come from Apple Music.
Of course Alexa does most of your home automation if you are into this sort of 
thing, all of our lights are Philips Hue lights and we have a connected 
Honeywell T5 thermostat and all of that works through Alexa.
In the bathroom a set of Sonos One speakers are all we have, in the kitchen we 
have a set of Sonos One speakers as well as a Google, can't remember the name, 
but it's one with the video/display which my wife likes. In the bedroom we have 
a set of Sonos Play 5, but since those don't have built-in Alexa, we also have 
a stand-alone Echo Dot, it's an older one, but I just ordered one of the new 
4th generation Echo Dot with clock, again so my wife can easily take a look if 
she wants to check the time. We also have a Google Home Mini in the bedroom 
because when it comes to asking questions like a phone number for a particular 
business, general facts or even making phone calls, I find the Google Home 
Mini/Google Assistant is much better at it.
In the living room we have a Sonos surround system, currently the original 
Playbar with a first generation Sonos Sub and a set of Play 1 for rear 
speakers, but I just bought my wife a nice new 55 inch OLED TV for Christmas, 
it's an LG, so we will also upgrade the Sonos because we would want the full 
Dolby Atmos experience and you only get this with the new Arc soundbar. I still 
have one old Sonos Connect which I can use to get a 30% discount on a new 
product so I'll use it to buy a new surround package which will save me almost 
$700 Canadian and I will probably sell my Playbar/Sub/Play 1 speakers as a 
package which should finance about half of the remaining purchase price. We 
then have an Echo Show 8 in the living room because of our Ring Doorbell and 
because it's so easy to just say "Alexa, connect to Front Door".
When Apple announced the HomePod Mini I pretty much said that for that price I 
would buy one, but for now I won't, beyond giving me SIRI access which I do 
have through my phone it won't really offer anything, it would just be another 
device we could ask to turn on the lights or change the temperature and we can 
do that already with Alexa and Google Assistant. If you don't yet have any 
smart speakers or maybe just one Echo or Google, then a set of HomePod Mini in 
stereo mode would probably be quite nice.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi Robert,
I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would like 
them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her to play 
that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played on Google 
devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How would you 
compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to have the 
same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be curious comparing 
that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience there.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Traci and List,
> 
> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
> connected to my network.
> 
> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
> me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
> system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
> easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all 
> rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
> 
> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to 
> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds great 
> and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, the 
> HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and if you 
> subscribe to Apple Music.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
>> best Airplay speaker for the price?
>> 
>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>> 
>> What are your thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>>

RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-28 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks Robert for this information.  The Echo dot was never intended for music, 
unless you have the model that can connect to an external speaker.
The full sized Echo and Echo Show are supposed to have pretty good sound, but I 
suspect nothing near the Sonos or Homepod quality.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Carter
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi,

You can link the HomePod with the HomePod mini to play the same music in 
different rooms. You cannot create a stereo pair using a regular HomePod and a 
HomePod Mini. You have to have two of the same type of Homepods to create a 
stereo pair.

I use my HomePods to primarily play Apple Music, Podcasts and online radio 
stations. While Siri can occasionally get cranky about a particular radio 
station, I really don’t have much trouble.

I don’t have any experience with Google music so can’t say whether there is a 
lot more there. I will say that it is very rare that I can’t find what I want 
to hear on Apple Music.

I had an Echo Dot for a little while but decided that I really don’t trust 
Amazon the way I do Apple so I got rid of the Dot. The Dot did not sound 
anywhere near as good as either the HomePod or the HomePod Mini. It is 
definitely not designed for delivering quality music.

All of this is pretty subjective and you have to figure out what you want to 
listen to and try to find out which of the streaming services and smart 
speakers deliver the most of what you want.

I personally have found that the Apple service and devices meet my needs really 
well. I have the complete Sonos system. Two Play 5 speakers, the TV Soundbar 
and the large Sub. It sounds really good but the HomePods in a stereo pair give 
the Sonos a run for its money. At least to my ears. If the HomePods had been 
available at the time, I would have felt no need to purchase a Sonos system.

Robert Carter

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 8:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would 
> like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her to 
> play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played on 
> Google devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How would 
> you compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to 
> have the same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be curious 
> comparing that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience 
> there.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Traci and List,
>> 
>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
>> connected to my network.
>> 
>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
>> me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
>> system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
>> easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all 
>> rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>> 
>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
>> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to 
>> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds 
>> great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, 
>> the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and 
>> if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is 
>>> the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>>> 
>>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>>> 
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>> 
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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-28 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,

You can link the HomePod with the HomePod mini to play the same music in 
different rooms. You cannot create a stereo pair using a regular HomePod and a 
HomePod Mini. You have to have two of the same type of Homepods to create a 
stereo pair.

I use my HomePods to primarily play Apple Music, Podcasts and online radio 
stations. While Siri can occasionally get cranky about a particular radio 
station, I really don’t have much trouble.

I don’t have any experience with Google music so can’t say whether there is a 
lot more there. I will say that it is very rare that I can’t find what I want 
to hear on Apple Music.

I had an Echo Dot for a little while but decided that I really don’t trust 
Amazon the way I do Apple so I got rid of the Dot. The Dot did not sound 
anywhere near as good as either the HomePod or the HomePod Mini. It is 
definitely not designed for delivering quality music.

All of this is pretty subjective and you have to figure out what you want to 
listen to and try to find out which of the streaming services and smart 
speakers deliver the most of what you want.

I personally have found that the Apple service and devices meet my needs really 
well. I have the complete Sonos system. Two Play 5 speakers, the TV Soundbar 
and the large Sub. It sounds really good but the HomePods in a stereo pair give 
the Sonos a run for its money. At least to my ears. If the HomePods had been 
available at the time, I would have felt no need to purchase a Sonos system.

Robert Carter

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 8:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would 
> like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her to 
> play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played on 
> Google devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How would 
> you compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to 
> have the same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be curious 
> comparing that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience 
> there.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Traci and List,
>> 
>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
>> connected to my network.
>> 
>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
>> me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
>> system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
>> easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all 
>> rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>> 
>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
>> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to 
>> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds 
>> great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, 
>> the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and 
>> if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is 
>>> the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>>> 
>>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>>> 
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>> 
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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-28 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
You could play your music apps and bard mobile through any good
sounding bluetooth speaker.  I just actually got this $30 bluetooth
speaker that sounds better then I expected and things like youtube
muisic, pandora, or bard mobile sound really good.  There are loads of
bluetooth speakers out there.  It just depends on how much you want to
spend on them.  I've gotten some speakers in the $60 range that are
quite good.  I'd actually like to sell a couple of my speakers.  Good
luck in finding which option is best for you.

On 11/27/20, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Hi all, there are features of the Homepod Mini that interest me, but
> honestly, it is mostly for the airplay capabilities.  I want to use my
> i'devices and play from the apps. Pandora, Bard Moble, Amazon Music. Would
> you say this is pretty seemless '? Airplaying music via Apple TV is a pain.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Traci
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't care that much for apple music.  I tried it with a free
>> subscriptionand quickly canceled it.  I've got a google home and I
>> think it has way much more music to choose from then apple does.  When
>> I listen to music, I listen to a lot of bluegrass and classic country
>> and apple music just doesn't have very much of that genre when
>> compared to google.  Also, with Siri, I can get her to play things
>> from youtube music, or use my google assistant which both youtube
>> music and google assistant are both working great now with IOS 13.7.
>> I like that I've got loads of music at my disposal if I say go over to
>> my sisters house for thanksgiving and want to listen to some music
>> while using a set of bluetooth headphones.  It all depends on what
>> smartspeaker you are most familiar with.
>>
>>> On 11/27/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I
>>> would
>>> like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want
>>> her
>>> to play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get
>>> played
>>> on Google devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How
>>> would you compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not
>>> going
>>> to have the same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be
>>> curious comparing that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have
>>> any
>>> experience there.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Traci and List,
>>>>
>>>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple
>>>> Watches
>>>> connected to my network.
>>>>
>>>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are
>>>> perfect
>>>> for me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have
>>>> a
>>>> Sonos system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all
>>>> be
>>>> very easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one
>>>> room,
>>>> all rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>>>>
>>>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling
>>>> the
>>>> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to
>>>> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds
>>>> great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are.
>>>> Again, the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple
>>>> devices and if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini
>>>>> is
>>>>> the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>>>>>
>>>>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Traci
>>>>>
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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi all, there are features of the Homepod Mini that interest me, but honestly, 
it is mostly for the airplay capabilities.  I want to use my i'devices and play 
from the apps. Pandora, Bard Moble, Amazon Music. Would you say this is pretty 
seemless '? Airplaying music via Apple TV is a pain. 

Thanks, 
Traci 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I don't care that much for apple music.  I tried it with a free
> subscriptionand quickly canceled it.  I've got a google home and I
> think it has way much more music to choose from then apple does.  When
> I listen to music, I listen to a lot of bluegrass and classic country
> and apple music just doesn't have very much of that genre when
> compared to google.  Also, with Siri, I can get her to play things
> from youtube music, or use my google assistant which both youtube
> music and google assistant are both working great now with IOS 13.7.
> I like that I've got loads of music at my disposal if I say go over to
> my sisters house for thanksgiving and want to listen to some music
> while using a set of bluetooth headphones.  It all depends on what
> smartspeaker you are most familiar with.
> 
>> On 11/27/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would
>> like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her
>> to play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played
>> on Google devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How
>> would you compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going
>> to have the same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be
>> curious comparing that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any
>> experience there.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Traci and List,
>>> 
>>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches
>>> connected to my network.
>>> 
>>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect
>>> for me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a
>>> Sonos system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be
>>> very easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room,
>>> all rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>>> 
>>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the
>>> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to
>>> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds
>>> great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are.
>>> Again, the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple
>>> devices and if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is
>>>> the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>>>> 
>>>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>>>> 
>>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Traci
>>>> 
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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I don't care that much for apple music.  I tried it with a free
subscriptionand quickly canceled it.  I've got a google home and I
think it has way much more music to choose from then apple does.  When
I listen to music, I listen to a lot of bluegrass and classic country
and apple music just doesn't have very much of that genre when
compared to google.  Also, with Siri, I can get her to play things
from youtube music, or use my google assistant which both youtube
music and google assistant are both working great now with IOS 13.7.
I like that I've got loads of music at my disposal if I say go over to
my sisters house for thanksgiving and want to listen to some music
while using a set of bluetooth headphones.  It all depends on what
smartspeaker you are most familiar with.

On 11/27/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would
> like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her
> to play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played
> on Google devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How
> would you compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going
> to have the same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be
> curious comparing that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any
> experience there.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Traci and List,
>>
>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches
>> connected to my network.
>>
>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect
>> for me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a
>> Sonos system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be
>> very easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room,
>> all rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>>
>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the
>> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to
>> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds
>> great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are.
>> Again, the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple
>> devices and if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is
>>> the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>>>
>>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>>
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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Robert,
I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would like 
them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her to play 
that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played on Google 
devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How would you 
compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to have the 
same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be curious comparing 
that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience there.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Traci and List,
> 
> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
> connected to my network.
> 
> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
> me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
> system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
> easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all 
> rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
> 
> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to 
> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds great 
> and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, the 
> HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and if you 
> subscribe to Apple Music.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
>> best Airplay speaker for the price?
>> 
>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>> 
>> What are your thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> 
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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Richard Turner
RobertCan you link the standard homepods with the mini so the same music is 
playing in each room?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:

Hi Traci and List,

I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
connected to my network.

I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all rooms 
or only the rooms that you choose.

I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to control 
the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds great and is 
easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, the HomePods are 
especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and if you subscribe to 
Apple Music.

Robert Carter



On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
best Airplay speaker for the price?

The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Robert Carter
Hi Traci and List,

I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
connected to my network.

I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all rooms 
or only the rooms that you choose.

I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to control 
the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds great and is 
easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, the HomePods are 
especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and if you subscribe to 
Apple Music.

Robert Carter



> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
> best Airplay speaker for the price?
> 
> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
> 
> What are your thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Marie,

 Yeah it's nice to be able to do that,

But I sometimes like to be able to press a button to get things playing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:56 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

I have five Sonos speakers and have been able to set up and control all with 
the app and skip the touch controls entirely. The sound is fantastic and I love 
playing my music all over my home so easily. I thought about getting a couple 
of home pods but decided there was no need for me.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

I can't speak for the home pod,
But the sonos1 is a nice speaker but it does have touch buttons which 
aren't marked on the top of the speaker, So it is best to be able to use alexa 
on the device,

I'm not a fan of alexa

So it really depends on what you're after.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2020 6:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
best Airplay speaker for the price?

The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Marie N.
I have five Sonos speakers and have been able to set up and control all with 
the app and skip the touch controls entirely. The sound is fantastic and I 
love playing my music all over my home so easily. I thought about getting a 
couple of home pods but decided there was no need for me.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

I can't speak for the home pod,
But the sonos1 is a nice speaker but it does have touch buttons which 
aren't marked on the top of the speaker,

So it is best to be able to use alexa on the device,

I'm not a fan of alexa

So it really depends on what you're after.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan

Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2020 6:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
best Airplay speaker for the price?


The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Traci

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RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I can't speak for the home pod,
But the sonos1 is a nice speaker but it does have touch buttons which aren't 
marked on the top of the speaker,
So it is best to be able to use alexa on the device,

I'm not a fan of alexa 

So it really depends on what you're after.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2020 6:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
best Airplay speaker for the price?

The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Traci

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Opinions on HomePod mini?

2020-11-27 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
best Airplay speaker for the price?

The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.

What are your thoughts?

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Apple M1 Macs and HomePod Mini Launch, 50 macOS Big Sur Tips, App Store Fee Changes

2020-11-19 Thread Simon A Fogarty
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 in the Dock on the new base model MacBook Air, and the notebook handled the 
task with ease.

This feat is even more impressive considering that the base model MacBook Air 
is equipped with just 8GB of memory and has a silent, fanless design, making it 
exciting to see what Apple will achieve with its M-series chips in higher-end 
Macs to come.

Rumors suggest that future Apple Silicon 
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 will include new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with an all-new form 
factor as early as Q2 2021, in addition to a redesigned 24-inch iMac and a 
smaller version of the Mac Pro.

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Re: Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

2020-11-18 Thread Mary Otten
I’m talking about transferring a podcast or music from the phone to the homePod 
or the other way around. Bluetooth Hass to be on. The phone also Hass to remain 
on. It’s not like Chromecast where, once you send it over to the other device, 
you can do whatever you want with your phone, including shutting it off. You 
can lock the screen, which helps, and you can do other activities. But you 
can’t turn the phone completely off. Maybe that depends on what service you 
hand it off, I don’t know. But that has been my experience.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Although I don't yet have a Homepod, is this the feature where you hold the 
> phone about an inch or so away from the Homepod, or are you actually talking 
> about finishing a task on one device from another, such as an email? The 
> music transfer feature should work already, and Voiceover should stay on the 
> phone. That's what I'm hoping for when I get my Homepod, probably later this 
> year.
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does your friend have Bluetooth on her phone turned on? It should work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Don Breda  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Subject says it all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even though 
>> she keeps the firmware up to date.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this not possible with the original homepod?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

2020-11-18 Thread Matthew Bullis
Although I don't yet have a Homepod, is this the feature where you hold the 
phone about an inch or so away from the Homepod, or are you actually talking 
about finishing a task on one device from another, such as an email? The music 
transfer feature should work already, and Voiceover should stay on the phone. 
That's what I'm hoping for when I get my Homepod, probably later this year.
Matthew


On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Does your friend have Bluetooth on her phone turned on? It should work.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> 
> Subject says it all.
> 
> 
> 
> My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even though 
> she keeps the firmware up to date.
> 
> 
> 
> Is this not possible with the original homepod?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> Don
> 
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> 
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Re: Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

2020-11-18 Thread Mary Otten
Does your friend have Bluetooth on her phone turned on? It should work.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> 
> Subject says it all.
> 
> 
> 
> My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even though 
> she keeps the firmware up to date.
> 
> 
> 
> Is this not possible with the original homepod?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
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Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

2020-11-18 Thread Don Breda

Subject says it all.


My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even 
though she keeps the firmware up to date.



Is this not possible with the original homepod?


Thanks in advance.


Don



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Re: HomePod intercom not working

2020-11-06 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I spent a long time on the telephone with Apple Accessibility who went away and 
consulted the engineers and then rang me back. And when we added my wife by 
invitation to the HomePod suddenly a new toggle appeared with my name on which 
was off! That toggle had not been there before but suddenly was there and when 
I talk of it on suddenly everything started working. So, mysterious but a happy 
ending!

> On 6 Nov 2020, at 15:12, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Might be time for a call to Apple Accessibility.
> The way I understand this allows you to send a one-way message to another 
> Home Pod, is that correct? I don't think it gives you an open, full two-way 
> connection like the Drop-In feature on Amazon Echo speakers?
> If so I don't think it's a feature I would find very useful just as I always 
> thought the WalkieTalkie feature on the Apple Watch was more of a gimmick.
> I think given today's technology and fast networks you should be able to open 
> an Intercom connection which allows both people on each end to freely speak 
> just as on a speakerphone call except the quality of the connection should be 
> better than a regular call, more like a Facetime Audio call.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 12:51 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: HomePod intercom not working
> 
> I’ve just updated my iPhone SE 2020 and my HomePod to iOS 14.2 and despite 
> having enabled the intercom feature every time I ask Siri to activate it, 
> Siri tells me I have to turn on the feature on my HomePod. I have completely 
> reset my HomePod but the problem is still the same. I have updated my Apple 
> Watch as well and tried it from there and it does not work. Has anybody found 
> a fix?
> Harry
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RE: HomePod intercom not working

2020-11-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Might be time for a call to Apple Accessibility.
The way I understand this allows you to send a one-way message to another Home 
Pod, is that correct? I don't think it gives you an open, full two-way 
connection like the Drop-In feature on Amazon Echo speakers?
If so I don't think it's a feature I would find very useful just as I always 
thought the WalkieTalkie feature on the Apple Watch was more of a gimmick.
I think given today's technology and fast networks you should be able to open 
an Intercom connection which allows both people on each end to freely speak 
just as on a speakerphone call except the quality of the connection should be 
better than a regular call, more like a Facetime Audio call.

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 12:51 AM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: HomePod intercom not working

I’ve just updated my iPhone SE 2020 and my HomePod to iOS 14.2 and despite 
having enabled the intercom feature every time I ask Siri to activate it, Siri 
tells me I have to turn on the feature on my HomePod. I have completely reset 
my HomePod but the problem is still the same. I have updated my Apple Watch as 
well and tried it from there and it does not work. Has anybody found a fix?
Harry

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HomePod intercom not working

2020-11-06 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I’ve just updated my iPhone SE 2020 and my HomePod to iOS 14.2 and despite 
having enabled the intercom feature every time I ask Siri to activate it, Siri 
tells me I have to turn on the feature on my HomePod. I have completely reset 
my HomePod but the problem is still the same. I have updated my Apple Watch as 
well and tried it from there and it does not work. Has anybody found a fix?
Harry

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AppleInsider answers all your HomePod mini questions

2020-10-17 Thread M. Taylor
AppleInsider News - Friday, October 16, 2020 at 9:32 AM

AppleInsider answers all your HomePod mini questions
 
The HomePod mini is shaping up to be quite popular with its expansive
feature set and low price tag. We reached out to our audience for what you
all wanted to know about HomePod mini and we've already been inundated with
piles of questions. 

The HomePod mini is Apple's new $99 smart speaker. It is much smaller than
the full-size HomePod, but lacks the larger unit's spatial awareness and
home theater mode. 

Otherwise, the HomePod mini can do just the same as its big brother. In some
cases, it can do more thanks to the addition of the U1 chip for a better
Handoff experience. 

HomePod mini can play music on its own from a variety of sources but also
can play any content using AirPlay 2. It acts as a Home Hub for your HomeKit
accessories, can be used as an intercom system, get personalized
recommendations, and much more. 

Apple plans to release HomePod mini on November 16 with preorders starting
November 6. While we wait, here are our answers to your biggest questions. 

Will the HomePod mini allow more than two simultaneous Bluetooth HomeKit
connections?
Yes. This isn't a current limitation and the HomePod mini should allow
constant connections of any Bluetooth HomeKit accessories nearby. 

How does handoff work with non-U1 enabled iPhones?
Handoff will work with the HomePod mini in the same way that it works with
existing HomePods. When handing off it will detect the nearby Bluetooth
signal and transfer over AirPlay. HomePod mini just has an improved
experience. 

What is the integration like for third-party music services such as Spotify,
Amazon Music, YouTube Music, etc?
Apple has promised support for streaming music from third-party services as
part of the HomePod's audioOS 14 update. We haven't been able to use this
feature yet as the update has not been released, but it seems HomePod will
be able to stream from many sources directly without using AirPlay. 
Some sources - such as Spotify - appear to be absent and will have to be
implemented by the provider itself. For now, if you wish to stream Spotify
to your HomePod mini, you will need to use AirPlay 2. 

Will it work for Apple TV home theater if paired to a full-size HomePod?
You cannot pair the HomePod mini with a full-size HomePod. If you have a
stereo pair of HomePod minis you can use them as speakers for your Apple TV
via AirPlay but only the full-size HomePod can be set as a Dolby Atmos
speaker for Apple TV 4K. 

Where will the HomePod mini be available at launch?
At launch, HomePod mini will be available in Australia, Canada, France,
Germany, Hong Kong, India, Japan, Spain, the UK, and theUS. China, Mexico,
and Taiwan will get HomePod mini by the end of 2020. 

When is the HomePod OS 14 update going to be released?
We don't know for sure as Apple has not revealed a release date but we
expect it to be released by the time HomePod mini hits shelves on November
16. 

How many watts does the HomePod mini output?
At this time we do not know how much power the HomePod mini can output. 

Does the HomePod mini have a line-out to connect to other audio devices?
There are no wired inputs or outputs for audio on the HomePod mini. There is
no line-out to connect other speakers. 

Will Siri's response time be the same for home automations with the S5 chip?
While it is hard to tell with certainty, it seems the S5 is most similar to
the A9 or A10 processor. The existing HomePod has an A8 processor inside
which means that there is the potential for HomePod mini to be slightly
faster in its responses than the full-size HomePod. We will need to have the
HomePod mini in our hands to know for sure. 

Is it possible to use the HomePod mini as a rear or center speaker in a 5.1
surround setup?
No, it can only be set up as a solo unit or stereo pair. A pair of original
HomePods will support Dolby Atmos audio with Apple TV 4K though. 

What does the power cord look like?
Apple hasn't shown the power cable clearly, so we will see for sure when it
arrives. We can assume it will look similar to the existing HomePod's cable
with a wall plug on one end rather than USB. 

Is it true that home theater support with Dolby Atmos is coming?
Apple will allow the full-size HomePod paired with an Apple TV 4K for home
theater mode which includes Dolby Atmos support. It works with one, but is
recommended to use a stereo pair. 
The update for Dolby Atmos is coming with the HomePod OS 14.2 update as well
as tvOS 14.2. Atmos Support will not be coming to the HomePod mini. 

Is it possible to play Spotify music or just Apple Music on the HomePod
mini?
Apple has announced several music sources for HomePod mini including
Pandora, Apple Music, Apple Podcasts, TuneIn, iHeartRadio, and Radio.com.
Others, including Spotify, will work over AirPlay. 

Does the HomePod mini support Bluetooth connection?
The HomePod mini is not compatible with Bluetooth audio streaming. The
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Ed,
What do you mean when you say location Hass to be on. I have location services 
available. But that applies to apps I guess, like whether you want them to be 
able to use location services and win. I’m not sure what you’re referring to 
when you’re talking about it with respect to the HomePod.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2020, at 7:04 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> The other setting that you might have to check and make sure is on is 
> location for both your HomePod and iPhone. If I turn off these settings the 
> hand off feature works only about half of the time.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2020, at 1:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> There's a very nice speaker called The Tribit Stormbox speaker that is
>> also very good.  I like my google home if it would stay connected to
>> my iPhone viabluetooth also sounds very good.
>> 
>>> On 3/2/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> I've never heard the home pod as we can't get them here in new Zealand.
>>> 
>>> I do however have a few sonos play 1 devices although they aren't
>>> Bluetooth.
>>> 
>>> But what I have heard playing audio is the sonos move and it sounded pretty
>>> bloody good to me.
>>> 
>>> And they are similar in how they work to the home pod I believe.
>>> 
>>> The other speakers I personally like are the UE boom for which they have
>>> just added a new device called the hyper boom,
>>> 
>>> Might be worth a look
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2020 9:01 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: HomePod Question
>>> 
>>> Hi Arnold.  What I'd do, is invest in a good bluetooth speaker.  I've got
>>> some very nice bluetooth speakers, and I can listen to bookshare books by
>>> using voice dream reader and the ebooks sound just fine.  I'd never purchase
>>> a home pod, they sound kind of junky to me.  I like my bose revolve plus
>>> speaker.
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>> Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this
>>>> iPhone
>>>> 6 is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link
>>>> as to how to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is
>>>> just too much money to have invested in something that doesn't work
>>>> right. If this really long link doesn't work, google "how to reset
>>>> homepod" and it will find it.
>>>> 
>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>> https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-
>>>> to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#or
>>>> igin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prer
>>>> ender=32=0=0=1=158304677141
>>>> 04=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F20
>>>> 18%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1
>>>> orage=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2Cr
>>>> eplaceUrl
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim
>>>> card.
>>>> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it
>>>> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an
>>>>> older phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with
>>>>> the new hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done
>>>>>> when I have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the
>>>>>> time, it 

Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
Yes, I have checked on both phones. And handoff is on.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:41 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This maybe a stupid question so forgive me for asking it if you checked all 
> this, but did you make sure Handoff and all this stuff is turned on?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HomePod Question
> 
> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim card. 
> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it 
> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
>> 
>> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an older 
>> phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with the new 
>> hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I 
>>> have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it doesn’t 
>>> work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever been a 
>>> time when it has worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a stereo 
>>> pair. I don’t know why that should make a difference. I’ve tried both parts 
>>> of my stereo pair, and both work intermittently as described.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>>> 
>>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>>>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>>>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read 
>>>> the book through the HomePod.
>>>> 
>>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>>>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>>>> through the iPhone.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi 
>>>>> network as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work 
>>>>> right either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as 
>>>>> a Kindle book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I 
>>>>> haven’t tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder 
>>>>> what the heck is up.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I 
>>>>>>> understand that air play works this way, but would it air play material 
>>>>>>> from,  say, Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How 
>>>>>>> about from Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I 
>>>>>>> spend the money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play 
>>>>>>> Kindle or V

Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
No, I have not called Apple Accessibility, because it doesn’t really seem like 
a voiceover issue. And my experience has been that if it’s not a voiceover 
issue, they won’t help you. And I can understand why.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you called Apple Accessibility to see if they can help to figure out 
> why it's not working for you?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HomePod Question
> 
> Hi Robert,
> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I 
> have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it doesn’t 
> work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever been a time 
> when it has worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I 
> don’t know why that should make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my 
> stereo pair, and both work intermittently as described.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary and list,
>> 
>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the 
>> book through the HomePod.
>> 
>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>> through the iPhone.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle 
>>> book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t 
>>> tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck 
>>> is up.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>>> 
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
I think it is transferring via airplay. It’s just quicker to do it with 
handoff, if handoff is working well for you.
Of course, I could be wrong. But I don’t see how else it would be transferring, 
even if it uses NFC which I don’t know. Isn’t it still using airplay? It 
certainly uses Wi-Fi. You can’t do it unless your HomePod and your phone on the 
same Wi-Fi network. It will not transfer if you’re using cellular.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I don't own a HomePod, but I'm curious, when something is transferred in 
> this way, wouldn't it be simply like sending it to the Homepod via Airplay?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 4:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HomePod Question
> 
> After you transfer something to your HomePod, you can use your phone for 
> other things. You can lock the screen. But you cannot turn off the phone 
> entirely, or even close the app which is the source of the program on your 
> HomePod. Thus, it is not the same as a Chromecast, where you can completely 
> turn off your device once the Chromecast has taken over.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> after you transfer what you are listening to on the phone to the Home Pod 
>> can you turn off your phone and go about your business?
>> Max.  
>> 
>>>> On 1 Mar 2020, at 1:13 am, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>> 
>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the 
>>> book through the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>>> through the iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>>>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>>>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a 
>>>> Kindle book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I 
>>>> haven’t tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what 
>>>> the heck is up.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>> list.
>>>>>> 
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RE: HomePod Question

2020-03-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The Sonos Move is a portable speaker which still uses the WiFi network or your 
Sonos network if you have one of your players hardwired, it only switches to 
Bluetooth when you are away from your home or outside where you are not 
connected to your WiFi. As I said, it's all a matter of how discerning of an 
audio file you are, for most a good Bluetooth speaker or headset sounds quite 
good, but Bluetooth just can't compete with Airplay or WiFi or, of course, a 
wired connection.
I had somebody once ask me which of two receivers I thought was the better, 
both were around $500, so I told him he would have to decide for himself 
because on my 20-year old high-end stereo system which has a Sonic Frontiers 
tube amp connected to a custom-built electronic crossover and which drives 
custom-built speakers and where a 250 Watt Bryston amp also connected to the 
crossover drives a pair of 4-foot tall custom-built 12 inch subwoofers the 
cables which connect the components cost more than $500.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 10:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: HomePod Question

I've never heard the home pod as we can't get them here in new Zealand.

I do however have a few sonos play 1 devices although they aren't Bluetooth.

 But what I have heard playing audio is the sonos move and it sounded pretty 
bloody good to me.

And they are similar in how they work to the home pod I believe.

The other speakers I personally like are the UE boom for which they have just 
added a new device called the hyper boom,

 Might be worth a look
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, 2 March 2020 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomePod Question

Hi Arnold.  What I'd do, is invest in a good bluetooth speaker.  I've got some 
very nice bluetooth speakers, and I can listen to bookshare books by using 
voice dream reader and the ebooks sound just fine.  I'd never purchase a home 
pod, they sound kind of junky to me.  I like my bose revolve plus speaker.

On 3/1/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> Hi Mary,
> Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this 
> iPhone
> 6 is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link 
> as to how to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is 
> just too much money to have invested in something that doesn't work 
> right. If this really long link doesn't work, google "how to reset homepod" 
> and it will find it.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-
> to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#or
> igin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prer
> ender=32=0=0=1=158304677141
> 04=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F20
> 18%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1
> orage=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2Cr
> eplaceUrl
>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim card.
> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it 
> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
>>
>> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an 
>> older phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with 
>> the new hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done 
>>> when I have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the 
>>> time, it doesn’t work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think 
>>> there has ever been a time when it has worked with a voice over 
>>> voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I don’t know why that should 
>>> make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my stereo pair, and both work 
>>> intermittently as described.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>>>
>>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I 
>>>> then held my pho

Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-02 Thread Ed Worrell
The other setting that you might have to check and make sure is on is location 
for both your HomePod and iPhone. If I turn off these settings the hand off 
feature works only about half of the time.

Ed


> On Mar 2, 2020, at 1:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> There's a very nice speaker called The Tribit Stormbox speaker that is
> also very good.  I like my google home if it would stay connected to
> my iPhone viabluetooth also sounds very good.
> 
> On 3/2/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> I've never heard the home pod as we can't get them here in new Zealand.
>> 
>> I do however have a few sonos play 1 devices although they aren't
>> Bluetooth.
>> 
>> But what I have heard playing audio is the sonos move and it sounded pretty
>> bloody good to me.
>> 
>> And they are similar in how they work to the home pod I believe.
>> 
>> The other speakers I personally like are the UE boom for which they have
>> just added a new device called the hyper boom,
>> 
>> Might be worth a look
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2020 9:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: HomePod Question
>> 
>> Hi Arnold.  What I'd do, is invest in a good bluetooth speaker.  I've got
>> some very nice bluetooth speakers, and I can listen to bookshare books by
>> using voice dream reader and the ebooks sound just fine.  I'd never purchase
>> a home pod, they sound kind of junky to me.  I like my bose revolve plus
>> speaker.
>> 
>> On 3/1/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this
>>> iPhone
>>> 6 is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link
>>> as to how to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is
>>> just too much money to have invested in something that doesn't work
>>> right. If this really long link doesn't work, google "how to reset
>>> homepod" and it will find it.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>> https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-
>>> to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#or
>>> igin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prer
>>> ender=32=0=0=1=158304677141
>>> 04=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F20
>>> 18%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1
>>> orage=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2Cr
>>> eplaceUrl
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim
>>> card.
>>> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it
>>> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
>>>> 
>>>> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an
>>>> older phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with
>>>> the new hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done
>>>>> when I have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the
>>>>> time, it doesn’t work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think
>>>>> there has ever been a time when it has worked with a voice over
>>>>> voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I don’t know why that should
>>>>> make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my stereo pair, and both
>>>>> work intermittently as described.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information,

Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-02 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
There's a very nice speaker called The Tribit Stormbox speaker that is
also very good.  I like my google home if it would stay connected to
my iPhone viabluetooth also sounds very good.

On 3/2/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> I've never heard the home pod as we can't get them here in new Zealand.
>
> I do however have a few sonos play 1 devices although they aren't
> Bluetooth.
>
>  But what I have heard playing audio is the sonos move and it sounded pretty
> bloody good to me.
>
> And they are similar in how they work to the home pod I believe.
>
> The other speakers I personally like are the UE boom for which they have
> just added a new device called the hyper boom,
>
>  Might be worth a look
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2020 9:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HomePod Question
>
> Hi Arnold.  What I'd do, is invest in a good bluetooth speaker.  I've got
> some very nice bluetooth speakers, and I can listen to bookshare books by
> using voice dream reader and the ebooks sound just fine.  I'd never purchase
> a home pod, they sound kind of junky to me.  I like my bose revolve plus
> speaker.
>
> On 3/1/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> Hi Mary,
>> Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this
>> iPhone
>> 6 is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link
>> as to how to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is
>> just too much money to have invested in something that doesn't work
>> right. If this really long link doesn't work, google "how to reset
>> homepod" and it will find it.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>> https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-
>> to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#or
>> igin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prer
>> ender=32=0=0=1=158304677141
>> 04=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F20
>> 18%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1
>> orage=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2Cr
>> eplaceUrl
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim
>> card.
>> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it
>> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mary,
>>>
>>> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
>>>
>>> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an
>>> older phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with
>>> the new hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
>>>
>>> Robert Carter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done
>>>> when I have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the
>>>> time, it doesn’t work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think
>>>> there has ever been a time when it has worked with a voice over
>>>> voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I don’t know why that should
>>>> make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my stereo pair, and both
>>>> work intermittently as described.
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>>>>
>>>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a
>>>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I
>>>>> then held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic
>>>>> click and said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately
>>>>> began to read the book through the HomePod.
>>>>>
>>>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic
>>>>> vibration and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James
>>>>> voice again came through the iPhone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 2

RE: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I've never heard the home pod as we can't get them here in new Zealand.

I do however have a few sonos play 1 devices although they aren't Bluetooth.

 But what I have heard playing audio is the sonos move and it sounded pretty 
bloody good to me.

And they are similar in how they work to the home pod I believe.

The other speakers I personally like are the UE boom for which they have just 
added a new device called the hyper boom,

 Might be worth a look 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, 2 March 2020 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomePod Question

Hi Arnold.  What I'd do, is invest in a good bluetooth speaker.  I've got some 
very nice bluetooth speakers, and I can listen to bookshare books by using 
voice dream reader and the ebooks sound just fine.  I'd never purchase a home 
pod, they sound kind of junky to me.  I like my bose revolve plus speaker.

On 3/1/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> Hi Mary,
> Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this 
> iPhone
> 6 is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link 
> as to how to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is 
> just too much money to have invested in something that doesn't work 
> right. If this really long link doesn't work, google "how to reset homepod" 
> and it will find it.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-
> to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#or
> igin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prer
> ender=32=0=0=1=158304677141
> 04=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F20
> 18%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1
> orage=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2Cr
> eplaceUrl
>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim card.
> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it 
> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
>>
>> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an 
>> older phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with 
>> the new hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done 
>>> when I have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the 
>>> time, it doesn’t work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think 
>>> there has ever been a time when it has worked with a voice over 
>>> voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I don’t know why that should 
>>> make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my stereo pair, and both work 
>>> intermittently as described.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>>>
>>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I 
>>>> then held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic 
>>>> click and said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately 
>>>> began to read the book through the HomePod.
>>>>
>>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic 
>>>> vibration and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James 
>>>> voice again came through the iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten 
>>>>> anything to transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on 
>>>>> the same Wi-Fi network as my HomePod. And some of the time, the 
>>>>> other one doesn’t work right either. And I have never had anything 
>>>>> that was being read, such as a Kindle book by voiceover or a voice 
>>>>> dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t tried it that much, 
>>>>> but it has never worked, making me wonder 

RE: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I don't own one since we have a very extensive Sonos system, but I did look at 
them and listen to them and "junky" is definitely is not how I'd describe them. 
Apple does know music and they do sound very, very nice and no Bluetooth 
speaker would be able to compete with the sound quality of a stereo pair of 
HomePods playing via Airplay or natively via the HomePod. For a book it's of 
course fine and you won't hear the difference, but the Bluetooth protocol just 
not have the bandwidth to allow for that sort of quality. There are apparently 
changes coming to Bluetooth which should vastly improve the sound quality, but 
of course they won't work with older hardware which cannot support them.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomePod Question

Hi Arnold.  What I'd do, is invest in a good bluetooth speaker.  I've got some 
very nice bluetooth speakers, and I can listen to bookshare books by using 
voice dream reader and the ebooks sound just fine.  I'd never purchase a home 
pod, they sound kind of junky to me.  I like my bose revolve plus speaker.

On 3/1/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> Hi Mary,
> Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this 
> iPhone
> 6 is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link 
> as to how to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is 
> just too much money to have invested in something that doesn't work 
> right. If this really long link doesn't work, google "how to reset homepod" 
> and it will find it.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-
> to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#or
> igin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prer
> ender=32=0=0=1=158304677141
> 04=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F20
> 18%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1
> orage=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2Cr
> eplaceUrl
>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim card.
> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it 
> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
>>
>> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an 
>> older phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with 
>> the new hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done 
>>> when I have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the 
>>> time, it doesn’t work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think 
>>> there has ever been a time when it has worked with a voice over 
>>> voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I don’t know why that should 
>>> make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my stereo pair, and both work 
>>> intermittently as described.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>>>
>>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I 
>>>> then held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic 
>>>> click and said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately 
>>>> began to read the book through the HomePod.
>>>>
>>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic 
>>>> vibration and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James 
>>>> voice again came through the iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten 
>>>>> anything to transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on 
>>>>> the same Wi-Fi network as my HomePod. And some of the time, the 
>>>>> other one doesn’t work right either. And 

RE: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
This maybe a stupid question so forgive me for asking it if you checked all 
this, but did you make sure Handoff and all this stuff is turned on?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomePod Question

Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim card. 
That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it 
occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
> 
> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an older 
> phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with the new 
> hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I 
>> have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it doesn’t 
>> work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever been a time 
>> when it has worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I 
>> don’t know why that should make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my 
>> stereo pair, and both work intermittently as described.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>> 
>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the 
>>> book through the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>>> through the iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>>>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>>>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a 
>>>> Kindle book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I 
>>>> haven’t tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what 
>>>> the heck is up.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>> 
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RE: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I don't own a HomePod, but I'm curious, when something is transferred in this 
way, wouldn't it be simply like sending it to the Homepod via Airplay?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomePod Question

After you transfer something to your HomePod, you can use your phone for other 
things. You can lock the screen. But you cannot turn off the phone entirely, or 
even close the app which is the source of the program on your HomePod. Thus, it 
is not the same as a Chromecast, where you can completely turn off your device 
once the Chromecast has taken over.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 29, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> after you transfer what you are listening to on the phone to the Home Pod can 
> you turn off your phone and go about your business?
> Max.  
> 
>> On 1 Mar 2020, at 1:13 am, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary and list,
>> 
>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the 
>> book through the HomePod.
>> 
>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>> through the iPhone.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle 
>>> book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t 
>>> tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck 
>>> is up.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>>> 
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RE: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Have you called Apple Accessibility to see if they can help to figure out why 
it's not working for you?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomePod Question

Hi Robert,
What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I have 
tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it doesn’t work for 
me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever been a time when it has 
worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I don’t know why 
that should make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my stereo pair, and 
both work intermittently as described.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and list,
> 
> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a BookShare 
> book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then held my phone 
> near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and said transferring 
> to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the book through the 
> HomePod.
> 
> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration and 
> the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came through the 
> iPhone.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle 
>> book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t 
>> tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck 
>> is up.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>> 
>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>> 
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Hi Arnold.  What I'd do, is invest in a good bluetooth speaker.  I've
got some very nice bluetooth speakers, and I can listen to bookshare
books by using voice dream reader and the ebooks sound just fine.  I'd
never purchase a home pod, they sound kind of junky to me.  I like my
bose revolve plus speaker.

On 3/1/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> Hi Mary,
> Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this iPhone
> 6 is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link as to
> how to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is just too much
> money to have invested in something that doesn't work right. If this really
> long link doesn't work, google "how to reset homepod" and it will find it.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
> https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prerender=32=0=0=1=15830467714104=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F2018%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2CreplaceUrl
>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim card.
> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it
> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
>>
>> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an older
>> phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with the new
>> hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I
>>> have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it
>>> doesn’t work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever
>>> been a time when it has worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a
>>> stereo pair. I don’t know why that should make a difference. I’ve tried
>>> both parts of my stereo pair, and both work intermittently as described.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>>>
>>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a
>>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then
>>>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and
>>>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read
>>>> the book through the HomePod.
>>>>
>>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic
>>>> vibration and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice
>>>> again came through the iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything
>>>>> to transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi
>>>>> network as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work
>>>>> right either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such
>>>>> as a Kindle book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover
>>>>> transfer. I haven’t tried it that much, but it has never worked, making
>>>>> me wonder what the heck is up.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the
>>>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
>>>>>

Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Hi Mary, 
Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this iPhone 6 
is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link as to how 
to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is just too much money 
to have invested in something that doesn't work right. If this really long link 
doesn't work, google "how to reset homepod" and it will find it. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prerender=32=0=0=1=15830467714104=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F2018%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2CreplaceUrl

On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim card. 
That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it 
occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
> 
> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an older 
> phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with the new 
> hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I 
>> have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it doesn’t 
>> work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever been a time 
>> when it has worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I 
>> don’t know why that should make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my 
>> stereo pair, and both work intermittently as described.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>> 
>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the 
>>> book through the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>>> through the iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>>>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>>>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a 
>>>> Kindle book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I 
>>>> haven’t tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what 
>>>> the heck is up.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>&g

Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim card. 
That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it 
occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
> 
> Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an older 
> phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with the new 
> hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I 
>> have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it doesn’t 
>> work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever been a time 
>> when it has worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I 
>> don’t know why that should make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my 
>> stereo pair, and both work intermittently as described.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary and list,
>>> 
>>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the 
>>> book through the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>>> through the iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>>>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>>>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a 
>>>> Kindle book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I 
>>>> haven’t tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what 
>>>> the heck is up.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robert Carter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
>>>>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  

Re: HomePod Question

2020-03-01 Thread Robert Carter
Hi Mary,

My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.

Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an older phone, 
I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with the new hardware? If 
you have a new phone then never mind.

Robert Carter



> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I 
> have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it doesn’t 
> work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever been a time 
> when it has worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I 
> don’t know why that should make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my 
> stereo pair, and both work intermittently as described.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary and list,
>> 
>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the 
>> book through the HomePod.
>> 
>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>> through the iPhone.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle 
>>> book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t 
>>> tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck 
>>> is up.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-02-29 Thread Mary Otten
After you transfer something to your HomePod, you can use your phone for other 
things. You can lock the screen. But you cannot turn off the phone entirely, or 
even close the app which is the source of the program on your HomePod. Thus, it 
is not the same as a Chromecast, where you can completely turn off your device 
once the Chromecast has taken over.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 29, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> after you transfer what you are listening to on the phone to the Home Pod can 
> you turn off your phone and go about your business?
> Max.  
> 
>> On 1 Mar 2020, at 1:13 am, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary and list,
>> 
>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a 
>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then 
>> held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and 
>> said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the 
>> book through the HomePod.
>> 
>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration 
>> and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came 
>> through the iPhone.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle 
>>> book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t 
>>> tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck 
>>> is up.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>>> 
>>>> Robert Carter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>>> 
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-02-29 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Robert,
What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done when I have 
tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the time, it doesn’t work for 
me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think there has ever been a time when it has 
worked with a voice over voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I don’t know why 
that should make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my stereo pair, and 
both work intermittently as described.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and list,
> 
> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a BookShare 
> book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then held my phone 
> near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and said transferring 
> to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the book through the 
> HomePod.
> 
> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration and 
> the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came through the 
> iPhone.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle 
>> book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t 
>> tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck 
>> is up.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>> 
>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-02-29 Thread Agent086b
Hi all,
after you transfer what you are listening to on the phone to the Home Pod can 
you turn off your phone and go about your business?
Max.  

> On 1 Mar 2020, at 1:13 am, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and list,
> 
> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a BookShare 
> book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then held my phone 
> near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and said transferring 
> to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the book through the 
> HomePod.
> 
> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration and 
> the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came through the 
> iPhone.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle 
>> book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t 
>> tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck 
>> is up.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>> 
>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>> 
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-02-29 Thread Agent086b
Hi all,
after you transfer what you are listening to on the phone to the Home Pod can 
you turn off your phone and go about your business?
Max.  

> On 1 Mar 2020, at 1:13 am, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and list,
> 
> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a BookShare 
> book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then held my phone 
> near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and said transferring 
> to HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the book through the 
> HomePod.
> 
> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration and 
> the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came through the 
> iPhone.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
>> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network 
>> as my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right 
>> either. And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle 
>> book by voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t 
>> tried it that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck 
>> is up.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a 
>>>> question. I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, 
>>>> VoiceOver was still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand 
>>>> that air play works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, 
>>>> Kindle that VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from 
>>>> Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the 
>>>> money for a HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or 
>>>> VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>>> 
>>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>>> 
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-02-29 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Thanks for this. It is good to know how to do it, in that a lot of people don't 
know how to get it to happen. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Feb 29, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:

Hi Mary and list,

To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a BookShare 
book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then held my phone 
near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and said transferring to 
HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the book through the HomePod.

I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration and 
the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came through the 
iPhone.

Robert Carter

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network as 
> my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right either. 
> And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle book by 
> voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t tried it 
> that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck is up.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a question. 
>>> I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, VoiceOver was 
>>> still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand that air play 
>>> works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, Kindle that 
>>> VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from Voice Dream 
>>> Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the money for a 
>>> HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or VoiceDream books 
>>> through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>> 
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-02-29 Thread Robert Carter
Hi Mary and list,

To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a BookShare 
book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I then held my phone 
near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic click and said transferring to 
HomePod. The James voice immediately began to read the book through the HomePod.

I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic vibration and 
the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James voice again came through the 
iPhone.

Robert Carter

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
> transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network as 
> my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right either. 
> And I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle book by 
> voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t tried it 
> that much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck is up.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the 
>> HomePod and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a question. 
>>> I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, VoiceOver was 
>>> still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand that air play 
>>> works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, Kindle that 
>>> VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from Voice Dream 
>>> Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the money for a 
>>> HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or VoiceDream books 
>>> through it. Thanks for any information. 
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-02-28 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Robert,
I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten anything to 
transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on the same Wi-Fi network as 
my HomePod. And some of the time, the other one doesn’t work right either. And 
I have never had anything that was being read, such as a Kindle book by 
voiceover or a voice dream book by voiceover transfer. I haven’t tried it that 
much, but it has never worked, making me wonder what the heck is up.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the HomePod 
> and handoff the audio to the HomePod.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> 
>> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a question. 
>> I noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, VoiceOver was 
>> still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand that air play 
>> works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, Kindle that 
>> VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from Voice Dream 
>> Reader, or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the money for a 
>> HomePod, only to discover that I can't play Kindle or VoiceDream books 
>> through it. Thanks for any information. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
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Re: HomePod Question

2020-02-28 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,

When audio is playing on the iPhone, you can bring the phone near the HomePod 
and handoff the audio to the HomePod.

Robert Carter



> On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a question. I 
> noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, VoiceOver was 
> still coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand that air play 
> works this way, but would it air play material from,  say, Kindle that 
> VoiceOver would be reading to the HomePod? How about from Voice Dream Reader, 
> or Ootunes. I want to know this before I spend the money for a HomePod, only 
> to discover that I can't play Kindle or VoiceDream books through it. Thanks 
> for any information. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
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HomePod Question

2020-02-28 Thread Arnold Schmidt
i listened to an AppleVis podcast about the HomePod, and I have a question. I 
noticed that when she was playing something from her phone, VoiceOver was still 
coming from her phone, not the HomePod. I understand that air play works this 
way, but would it air play material from,  say, Kindle that VoiceOver would be 
reading to the HomePod? How about from Voice Dream Reader, or Ootunes. I want 
to know this before I spend the money for a HomePod, only to discover that I 
can't play Kindle or VoiceDream books through it. Thanks for any information. 

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Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2020-01-15 Thread TaraPrakash
It is called World service not for nothing. The person Who does the program 
that is from 11 AM to 1 PM Eastern standard time is a good friend with an 
Indian accent  talking about accents Donald Trump,  Jeff sessions,  Bernie 
Sanders,  and one rep who  sounds very  idiotic  and is from  Ohio,  all have 
different accents. What needs to get used to that I guess. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> I am in Chicago and I can listen to all the numbered BBC stations.
> Siri wants me to install the podcasts app for BBC World Service.  Are
> you just craving BBC news?  I listen to the World Service and it has
> changed a lot since I started listening on shortwave in the early
> 1990s.  Now, listeners here many people without British upper class
> accents, including Indians.  Also, the tone is decidedly leftist and
> globalist.  I listen to many other news sources.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
>> On 12/30/19, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Hi all and thanks for your responses.
>> 
>> I finally got to the bottom of this issue in this article from Mac
>> rumours see below.
>> 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/01/homepod-live-radio-requests-no-bbc-in-uk/
>> 
>> 
>> I  can get other stations but it seems somewhat hit and miss, I think I
>> will be returning my Homepod as a waste of space!
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>>> On 30/12/2019 16:42, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> 
>>> And here again the link for that support article since the one Jim
>>> provided got mangled:
>>> 
>>> Listen to broadcast radio on iPhone - Apple Support
>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/ipha562cea63/ios>
>>> 
>>> I just tried this on my iPhone 8 asking SIRI the following examples:
>>> 
>>> Play BBC radio – SIRI said now playing BBC radio 1
>>> 
>>> Play CBC radio – SIRI said now playing CBC 1
>>> 
>>> Play Country 105 (I said it as 1 O 5) – SIRI played it, it’s a country
>>> station from Calgary
>>> 
>>> Play CHFI – SIRI said now playing 98.1 CHFI radio
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Peter Logan
>>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>> 
>>> No, you don't need the Tune In app ...
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do this all the time.  You do sometimes need to ask a couple of
>>> different ways to get what you want.  I tried BBC 1 and got it just
>>> fine ..
>>> 
>>> Hey Siri, play BBC 1
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:57 AM
>>> 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.
>>> 
>>> Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.
>>> 
>>> Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or
>>> Homepod?
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>>> On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
>>> 
>>>> You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to
>>> 
>>>> work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit
>>> 
>>>> finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for
>>> 
>>>> the station.
>>> 
>>>> It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest
>>> 
>>>> software as well.
>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>>> 
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
>>> 
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>>> Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that
>>> 
>>>> IOS
>>> 
>>>> 13 for the Homepod

RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2020-01-01 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
" Now, listeners here many people without British upper class accents, 
including Indians."
LOL wow the horror...  what pray tell are people to do now? Globalists 
globalists everywhere. 

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

I am in Chicago and I can listen to all the numbered BBC stations.
Siri wants me to install the podcasts app for BBC World Service.  Are you just 
craving BBC news?  I listen to the World Service and it has changed a lot since 
I started listening on shortwave in the early 1990s.  Now, listeners here many 
people without British upper class accents, including Indians.  Also, the tone 
is decidedly leftist and globalist.  I listen to many other news sources.

Kelly


On 12/30/19, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi all and thanks for your responses.
>
> I finally got to the bottom of this issue in this article from Mac 
> rumours see below.
>
> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/01/homepod-live-radio-requests-no-bb
> c-in-uk/
>
>
> I  can get other stations but it seems somewhat hit and miss, I think 
> I will be returning my Homepod as a waste of space!
>
> Gary
>
> On 30/12/2019 16:42, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>
>> And here again the link for that support article since the one Jim 
>> provided got mangled:
>>
>> Listen to broadcast radio on iPhone - Apple Support 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/ipha562cea63/ios>
>>
>> I just tried this on my iPhone 8 asking SIRI the following examples:
>>
>> Play BBC radio – SIRI said now playing BBC radio 1
>>
>> Play CBC radio – SIRI said now playing CBC 1
>>
>> Play Country 105 (I said it as 1 O 5) – SIRI played it, it’s a 
>> country station from Calgary
>>
>> Play CHFI – SIRI said now playing 98.1 CHFI radio
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Peter Logan
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> No, you don't need the Tune In app ...
>>
>> Yes, I do this all the time.  You do sometimes need to ask a couple 
>> of different ways to get what you want.  I tried BBC 1 and got it 
>> just fine ..
>>
>> Hey Siri, play BBC 1
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:57 AM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.
>>
>> Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.
>>
>> Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or 
>> Homepod?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>>
>> > Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
>>
>> > You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to
>>
>> > work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit
>>
>> > finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask 
>> > for
>>
>> > the station.
>>
>> > It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest
>>
>> > software as well.
>>
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
>>
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> > Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Hi all,
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention 
>> > that
>>
>> > IOS
>>
>> > 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like 
>> > tune
>>
>> > in radio etc.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could
>>
>> > access mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did 
>> > see
>>
>> > one commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my
>>
>> > phone but couldn't get to anything else.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > My question is do I need to

Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2020-01-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
I am in Chicago and I can listen to all the numbered BBC stations.
Siri wants me to install the podcasts app for BBC World Service.  Are
you just craving BBC news?  I listen to the World Service and it has
changed a lot since I started listening on shortwave in the early
1990s.  Now, listeners here many people without British upper class
accents, including Indians.  Also, the tone is decidedly leftist and
globalist.  I listen to many other news sources.

Kelly


On 12/30/19, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi all and thanks for your responses.
>
> I finally got to the bottom of this issue in this article from Mac
> rumours see below.
>
> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/01/homepod-live-radio-requests-no-bbc-in-uk/
>
>
> I  can get other stations but it seems somewhat hit and miss, I think I
> will be returning my Homepod as a waste of space!
>
> Gary
>
> On 30/12/2019 16:42, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>
>> And here again the link for that support article since the one Jim
>> provided got mangled:
>>
>> Listen to broadcast radio on iPhone - Apple Support
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/ipha562cea63/ios>
>>
>> I just tried this on my iPhone 8 asking SIRI the following examples:
>>
>> Play BBC radio – SIRI said now playing BBC radio 1
>>
>> Play CBC radio – SIRI said now playing CBC 1
>>
>> Play Country 105 (I said it as 1 O 5) – SIRI played it, it’s a country
>> station from Calgary
>>
>> Play CHFI – SIRI said now playing 98.1 CHFI radio
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Peter Logan
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> No, you don't need the Tune In app ...
>>
>> Yes, I do this all the time.  You do sometimes need to ask a couple of
>> different ways to get what you want.  I tried BBC 1 and got it just
>> fine ..
>>
>> Hey Siri, play BBC 1
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:57 AM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.
>>
>> Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.
>>
>> Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or
>> Homepod?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>>
>> > Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
>>
>> > You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to
>>
>> > work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit
>>
>> > finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for
>>
>> > the station.
>>
>> > It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest
>>
>> > software as well.
>>
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
>>
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> > Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Hi all,
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that
>>
>> > IOS
>>
>> > 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune
>>
>> > in radio etc.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could
>>
>> > access mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see
>>
>> > one commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my
>>
>> > phone but couldn't get to anything else.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain
>>
>> > access to all these new stations?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri
>>
>> > play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC
>>
>> > sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersom

Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2019-12-30 Thread 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

Hi all and thanks for your responses.

I finally got to the bottom of this issue in this article from Mac 
rumours see below.


https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/01/homepod-live-radio-requests-no-bbc-in-uk/


I  can get other stations but it seems somewhat hit and miss, I think I 
will be returning my Homepod as a waste of space!


Gary

On 30/12/2019 16:42, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


And here again the link for that support article since the one Jim 
provided got mangled:


Listen to broadcast radio on iPhone - Apple Support 
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/ipha562cea63/ios>


I just tried this on my iPhone 8 asking SIRI the following examples:

Play BBC radio – SIRI said now playing BBC radio 1

Play CBC radio – SIRI said now playing CBC 1

Play Country 105 (I said it as 1 O 5) – SIRI played it, it’s a country 
station from Calgary


Play CHFI – SIRI said now playing 98.1 CHFI radio

Regards,

Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Peter Logan

Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

No, you don't need the Tune In app ...

Yes, I do this all the time.  You do sometimes need to ask a couple of 
different ways to get what you want.  I tried BBC 1 and got it just 
fine ..


Hey Siri, play BBC 1

-Original Message-

From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 

Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

Hi,

I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.

Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.

Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or 
Homepod?


Gary

On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:

> Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.

> You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to

> work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit

> finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for

> the station.

> It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest

> software as well.

> Thanks.

>

> -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

>

> Hi all,

>

>

> I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that

> IOS

> 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune

> in radio etc.

>

> I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could

> access mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see

> one commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my

> phone but couldn't get to anything else.

>

> My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain

> access to all these new stations?

>

> At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri

> play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.

>

> Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC

> sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when

> compared to just asking directly.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> Gary

>

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RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2019-12-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And here again the link for that support article since the one Jim provided got 
mangled:



Listen to broadcast radio on iPhone - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/ipha562cea63/ios>



I just tried this on my iPhone 8 asking SIRI the following examples:



Play BBC radio – SIRI said now playing BBC radio 1

Play CBC radio – SIRI said now playing CBC 1

Play Country 105 (I said it as 1 O 5) – SIRI played it, it’s a country station 
from Calgary

Play CHFI – SIRI said now playing 98.1 CHFI radio



Regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod



No, you don't need the Tune In app ...



Yes, I do this all the time.  You do sometimes need to ask a couple of 
different ways to get what you want.  I tried BBC 1 and got it just fine ..



Hey Siri, play BBC 1







-Original Message-

From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 

Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod



Hi,



I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.



Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.



Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or Homepod?



Gary



On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:

> Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.

> You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to

> work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit

> finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for

> the station.

> It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest

> software as well.

> Thanks.

>

> -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

>

> Hi all,

>

>

> I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that

> IOS

> 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune

> in radio etc.

>

> I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could

> access mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see

> one commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my

> phone but couldn't get to anything else.

>

> My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain

> access to all these new stations?

>

> At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri

> play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.

>

> Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC

> sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when

> compared to just asking directly.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> Gary

>



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RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2019-12-30 Thread Peter Logan
No, you don't need the Tune In app ... 

Yes, I do this all the time.  You do sometimes need to ask a couple of 
different ways to get what you want.  I tried BBC 1 and got it just fine ..

Hey Siri, play BBC 1 



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From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

Hi,

I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.

Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.

Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or Homepod?

Gary

On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:
> Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
> You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to 
> work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit 
> finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for 
> the station.
> It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest 
> software as well.
> Thanks.
>
> -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that 
> IOS
> 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune 
> in radio etc.
>
> I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could 
> access mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see 
> one commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my 
> phone but couldn't get to anything else.
>
> My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain 
> access to all these new stations?
>
> At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri 
> play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.
>
> Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC 
> sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when 
> compared to just asking directly.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Gary
>

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Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2019-12-30 Thread Jim Fettgather
Honest, you do not need TuneIn Radio for this to work, this is a new
feature of IOS 13.
Here is an article from Apple support:

https://support.apple.com › listen-to-broadcast-radio-ipha562cea63 › ios



On 12/30/19, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.
>
> Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.
>
> Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or Homepod?
>
> Gary
>
> On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>> Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
>> You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to
>> work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit
>> finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for
>> the station.
>> It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest
>> software as well.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that IOS
>> 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune in
>> radio etc.
>>
>> I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could access
>> mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see one
>> commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my phone but
>> couldn't get to anything else.
>>
>> My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain
>> access to all these new stations?
>>
>> At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri
>> play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.
>>
>> Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC
>> sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when
>> compared to just asking directly.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>
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Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2019-12-30 Thread 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

Hi,

I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.

Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.

Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or Homepod?

Gary

On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:

Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to 
work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit 
finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for 
the station.
It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest 
software as well.

Thanks.

-Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

Hi all,


I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that IOS
13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune in
radio etc.

I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could access
mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see one
commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my phone but
couldn't get to anything else.

My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain
access to all these new stations?

At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri
play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.

Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC
sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when
compared to just asking directly.

Thanks


Gary



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Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2019-12-30 Thread Jim Fettgather

Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to work in 
IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit finicky on 
complying with your request, depending on how you ask for the station.
It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest software 
as well.

Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

Hi all,


I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that IOS
13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune in
radio etc.

I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could access
mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see one
commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my phone but
couldn't get to anything else.

My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain
access to all these new stations?

At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri
play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.

Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC
sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when
compared to just asking directly.

Thanks


Gary

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Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

2019-12-30 Thread 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

Hi all,


I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that IOS 
13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune in 
radio etc.


I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could access 
mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see one 
commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my phone but 
couldn't get to anything else.


My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain 
access to all these new stations?


At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri 
play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.


Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC 
sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when 
compared to just asking directly.


Thanks


Gary

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Re: Siri in the HomePod

2019-11-28 Thread Jim Fettgather
Hello, My HomePods are playing everything from Apple Music normally as they 
should, you may wish to unplug the HomePod and then re-connect a couple of 
minutes later to see if this clears up the problem.

Thanks.

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Subject: Siri in the HomePod

I have an absolutely no luck today getting Siri to play anything on my 
HomePods. I can hand off from my phone, but if I ask her directly on the 
HomePod to play some album or other that I know is in Apple Music or in my 
iTunes library, she has said she can’t find it every single time. Seems to 
be functioning normally in all other respects on my other devices. Has 
anyone else experienced this problem?

Mary


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Siri in the HomePod

2019-11-28 Thread Mary Otten
I have an absolutely no luck today getting Siri to play anything on my 
HomePods. I can hand off from my phone, but if I ask her directly on the 
HomePod to play some album or other that I know is in Apple Music or in my 
iTunes library, she has said she can’t find it every single time. Seems to be 
functioning normally in all other respects on my other devices. Has anyone else 
experienced this problem?
Mary


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RE: Hey Siri not working well on HomePod after update

2019-10-31 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Well, that's interesting.  I am still on IOS 12, but lately my iPhone 8 has 
been acting pretty much the same.  So I wonder if it is the IOS version or 
something else?

Pam



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I was really looking forward to the update to 13.2 for the HomePod. And I 
finally got it after the first one was withdrawn and they introduced 13.2.1. 
Now it seems that at least half of the time, Siri is deaf. I can say hey Siri 
two or three times before I get any results at all. And she comes up with the 
wildest stupidest things that aren’t even close to what I requested, unless 
it’s something from Apple Music. It’s crazy.


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Hey Siri not working well on HomePod after update

2019-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
I was really looking forward to the update to 13.2 for the HomePod. And I 
finally got it after the first one was withdrawn and they introduced 13.2.1. 
Now it seems that at least half of the time, Siri is deaf. I can say hey Siri 
two or three times before I get any results at all. And she comes up with the 
wildest stupidest things that aren’t even close to what I requested, unless 
it’s something from Apple Music. It’s crazy.


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Re: HomePod and iOS 13

2019-09-29 Thread Peter Logan
My understanding is that is to be released on September 30

Sent from my IPhome.

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Is there anybody on this list I should say these lists, who has HomePods 
> which have been updated past iOS 12? I keep checking, going into the home 
> app. I have automatic updates on. When I go in there and click software 
> update in the home app, I’m always being told my HomePod is up to date on Ios 
> 12.4. Seems rather strange. I’m interested in that new handoff feature, where 
> you’re supposed to be able to have something going on your phone and easily 
> send it to your HomePod just by walking into the room or something. I forget 
> exactly how it’s supposed to work, but I don’t have iOS 13 on my pod, so I 
> can’t try it out in any case.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: HomePod and iOS 13

2019-09-28 Thread Francisco Salvador Crespo
> I'm also looking forward to it. I read that maybe next week.
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> Enviado desde mi iPhone
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> El 28 sep. 2019, a las 20:03, Mary Otten  escribió:
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> Is there anybody on this list I should say these lists, who has HomePods 
> which have been updated past iOS 12? I keep checking, going into the home 
> app. I have automatic updates on. When I go in there and click software 
> update in the home app, I’m always being told my HomePod is up to date on Ios 
> 12.4. Seems rather strange. I’m interested in that new handoff feature, where 
> you’re supposed to be able to have something going on your phone and easily 
> send it to your HomePod just by walking into the room or something. I forget 
> exactly how it’s supposed to work, but I don’t have iOS 13 on my pod, so I 
> can’t try it out in any case.
> Mary
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