RE: Moving apps on my iPhone 8

[Debbie Downey]

HI Christopher,

 

Thank you very much! I wasn’t doing it quite right; I didn’t know about finding 
the app where I wanted to move it to and flicking down to drop before or after. 
That is what I was missing! Like I said, I don’t do this very much!

 

Thanks again!

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving apps on my iPhone 8

 

I don’t think anything has changed. On any app do a flick down to the edit 
option and double tap. Now find the app you want to move and flick down to 
drag. Move your finger to where you want to place the app and flick down to 
select move before, after, add to a folder or create a folder.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Debbie Downey
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Moving apps on my iPhone 8

 

HI Group,

 

I rarely move apps on my iPhone 8 but somehow, a few apps got moved and I can’t 
get them back to where they were.

 

I thought that instead of having to drag the app with your finger that it had 
changed to where it gave you choices of where to drop it either before or after 
an app? Did they change this back to the way it originally was or am I losing 
it? Please let me know if there is an easier way to move an app than having to 
slide your finger to where you want the app to go? 

 

I’m running IOS 16.6.1 on this old iPhone 8.

 

Thank you!

 

Debbie

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RE: Moving apps on my iPhone 8

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't think anything has changed. On any app do a flick down to the edit 
option and double tap. Now find the app you want to move and flick down to 
drag. Move your finger to where you want to place the app and flick down to 
select move before, after, add to a folder or create a folder.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Moving apps on my iPhone 8

HI Group,

I rarely move apps on my iPhone 8 but somehow, a few apps got moved and I can't 
get them back to where they were.

I thought that instead of having to drag the app with your finger that it had 
changed to where it gave you choices of where to drop it either before or after 
an app? Did they change this back to the way it originally was or am I losing 
it? Please let me know if there is an easier way to move an app than having to 
slide your finger to where you want the app to go?

I'm running IOS 16.6.1 on this old iPhone 8.

Thank you!

Debbie
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Moving apps on my iPhone 8

[Debbie Downey]

HI Group,

 

I rarely move apps on my iPhone 8 but somehow, a few apps got moved and I
can't get them back to where they were.

 

I thought that instead of having to drag the app with your finger that it
had changed to where it gave you choices of where to drop it either before
or after an app? Did they change this back to the way it originally was or
am I losing it? Please let me know if there is an easier way to move an app
than having to slide your finger to where you want the app to go? 

 

I'm running IOS 16.6.1 on this old iPhone 8.

 

Thank you!

 

Debbie

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For Lynda and Wailea about moving apps

[Richard Turner]

Lynda and Wailea you seemed to have hijacked the thread about Be My Eyes since 
your message was buried in that other thread, so I started this new one.
It sounds like you are trying the old method for moving apps by actually 
dragging your finger and are ending up dropping the app on another one which 
creates a folder. 
Instead, Touch the app you wish to move and flicck up or down so you hear edit 
mode. Double tap. Now flick down with one finger until you hear drag and double 
tap. Now go to where you want to move that app and touch an app that you want 
the app you are moving to be next to and flick down and pay close attention to 
what you hear. The key choices you want are drop before x app, drop after x app 
or create folder with x app. Pick the one you want and double tap. You will not 
accidently create a folder this way. Plus, if you want to move several apps at 
once, after selecting drag on app 1 touch another app and flick up or down to 
add to drag session and double tap. Add as many as you want and then drop them 
all where you want them. 
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Re: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

[Barbara Stahl]

Thank you.  I tried your suggestions and it worked.  The app is now on its own 
in the place where I wanted it to be.  

> On May 13, 2023, at 10:27 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just move the app out of the folder to your home screen, remove all of the 
> other apps in your folder, so it disappears, and then move your app into the 
> location you want. I’d move the app right before the folder and then delete 
> everything in the folder, that should give you what you want.
>  
> --
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 9:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.
>  
> I want the app to be exactly where the folder is; nowhere else. So how to I 
> do that?
>  
> 
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> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 8:34 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Just move it out of the folder the same way you move apps, open the folder 
> and start editing mode, select to drag the Libby app, then close the folder 
> with a scrub gesture and drop the Libby app wherever you want it on the home 
> screen. I am pretty sure once the folder is empty it goes away.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.
>  
> Well, I deleted the overdrive app and the folder did not disappear so they 
> must have changed that behavior which is really disappointing.
>  
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> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 5:11 PM Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> I'm not testing it in the moment, but my experience has been that if there's 
> only one app left in a folder the folder will disappear on the home screen 
> and just be replaced by the single app. Maybe it no longer behaves this way, 
> but that is what I do recall, so my recollection agrees with yours.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 11:55 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.
> 
> Hi everyone!  I had two apps in a folder on the home screen, the libby app 
> and the overdrive app.  I kept the overdrive app until it was discontinued at 
> the beginning of may.   I then deleted the overdrive app.  I hoped that 
> deleting one of the apps in the folder would take the folder away, but that 
> turned out not to be the case.  I started to remove the folder but voiceover 
> said that the libby app would be moved to the app library, and I want it to 
> stay where it is just without being in a folder.  So how do I remove the 
> folder without removing the app from its position on the home screen?
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RE: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

[Christopher Chaltain]

Just move the app out of the folder to your home screen, remove all of the 
other apps in your folder, so it disappears, and then move your app into the 
location you want. I’d move the app right before the folder and then delete 
everything in the folder, that should give you what you want.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 9:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

I want the app to be exactly where the folder is; nowhere else. So how to I do 
that?

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On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 8:34 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Just move it out of the folder the same way you move apps, open the folder and 
start editing mode, select to drag the Libby app, then close the folder with a 
scrub gesture and drop the Libby app wherever you want it on the home screen. I 
am pretty sure once the folder is empty it goes away.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

Well, I deleted the overdrive app and the folder did not disappear so they must 
have changed that behavior which is really disappointing.

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On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 5:11 PM Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I'm not testing it in the moment, but my experience has been that if there's 
only one app left in a folder the folder will disappear on the home screen and 
just be replaced by the single app. Maybe it no longer behaves this way, but 
that is what I do recall, so my recollection agrees with yours.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 11:55 AM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

Hi everyone!  I had two apps in a folder on the home screen, the libby app and 
the overdrive app.  I kept the overdrive app until it was discontinued at the 
beginning of may.   I then deleted the overdrive app.  I hoped that deleting 
one of the apps in the folder would take the folder away, but that turned out 
not to be the case.  I started to remove the folder but voiceover said that the 
libby app would be moved to the app library, and I want it to stay where it is 
just without being in a folder.  So how do I remove the folder without removing 
the app from its position on the home screen?

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Re: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

[Barbara Stahl]

I want the app to be exactly where the folder is; nowhere else. So how to I
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On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 8:34 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Just move it out of the folder the same way you move apps, open the folder
> and start editing mode, select to drag the Libby app, then close the folder
> with a scrub gesture and drop the Libby app wherever you want it on the
> home screen. I am pretty sure once the folder is empty it goes away.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Barbara Stahl
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 13, 2023 2:49 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.
>
>
>
> Well, I deleted the overdrive app and the folder did not disappear so they
> must have changed that behavior which is really disappointing.
>
>
>
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> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 5:11 PM Christopher Chaltain 
> wrote:
>
> I'm not testing it in the moment, but my experience has been that if
> there's only one app left in a folder the folder will disappear on the home
> screen and just be replaced by the single app. Maybe it no longer behaves
> this way, but that is what I do recall, so my recollection agrees with
> yours.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 11:55 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.
>
> Hi everyone!  I had two apps in a folder on the home screen, the libby app
> and the overdrive app.  I kept the overdrive app until it was discontinued
> at the beginning of may.   I then deleted the overdrive app.  I hoped that
> deleting one of the apps in the folder would take the folder away, but that
> turned out not to be the case.  I started to remove the folder but
> voiceover said that the libby app would be moved to the app library, and I
> want it to stay where it is just without being in a folder.  So how do I
> remove the folder without removing the app from its position on the home
> screen?
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RE: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just move it out of the folder the same way you move apps, open the folder and 
start editing mode, select to drag the Libby app, then close the folder with a 
scrub gesture and drop the Libby app wherever you want it on the home screen. I 
am pretty sure once the folder is empty it goes away.


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Well, I deleted the overdrive app and the folder did not disappear so they must 
have changed that behavior which is really disappointing.

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I'm not testing it in the moment, but my experience has been that if there's 
only one app left in a folder the folder will disappear on the home screen and 
just be replaced by the single app. Maybe it no longer behaves this way, but 
that is what I do recall, so my recollection agrees with yours.

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Hi everyone!  I had two apps in a folder on the home screen, the libby app and 
the overdrive app.  I kept the overdrive app until it was discontinued at the 
beginning of may.   I then deleted the overdrive app.  I hoped that deleting 
one of the apps in the folder would take the folder away, but that turned out 
not to be the case.  I started to remove the folder but voiceover said that the 
libby app would be moved to the app library, and I want it to stay where it is 
just without being in a folder.  So how do I remove the folder without removing 
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Well, I deleted the overdrive app and the folder did not disappear so they
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> I'm not testing it in the moment, but my experience has been that if
> there's only one app left in a folder the folder will disappear on the home
> screen and just be replaced by the single app. Maybe it no longer behaves
> this way, but that is what I do recall, so my recollection agrees with
> yours.
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> Subject: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.
>
> Hi everyone!  I had two apps in a folder on the home screen, the libby app
> and the overdrive app.  I kept the overdrive app until it was discontinued
> at the beginning of may.   I then deleted the overdrive app.  I hoped that
> deleting one of the apps in the folder would take the folder away, but that
> turned out not to be the case.  I started to remove the folder but
> voiceover said that the libby app would be moved to the app library, and I
> want it to stay where it is just without being in a folder.  So how do I
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RE: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not testing it in the moment, but my experience has been that if there's 
only one app left in a folder the folder will disappear on the home screen and 
just be replaced by the single app. Maybe it no longer behaves this way, but 
that is what I do recall, so my recollection agrees with yours.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
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Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 11:55 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

Hi everyone!  I had two apps in a folder on the home screen, the libby app and 
the overdrive app.  I kept the overdrive app until it was discontinued at the 
beginning of may.   I then deleted the overdrive app.  I hoped that deleting 
one of the apps in the folder would take the folder away, but that turned out 
not to be the case.  I started to remove the folder but voiceover said that the 
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Moving apps out of folders on the home screem.

[Barbara Stahl]

Hi everyone!  I had two apps in a folder on the home screen, the libby app and 
the overdrive app.  I kept the overdrive app until it was discontinued at the 
beginning of may.   I then deleted the overdrive app.  I hoped that deleting 
one of the apps in the folder would take the folder away, but that turned out 
not to be the case.  I started to remove the folder but voiceover said that the 
libby app would be moved to the app library, and I want it to stay where it is 
just without being in a folder.  So how do I remove the folder without removing 
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Re: moving apps

[Arnold Schmidt]

I will try this method the next time I need to move an app. I have always thought it were as if something was slugish somehow and wasn't quite following the swiping to get to what I want. By no means is it 100 percent acurate, but I have discovered that if I swipe two selections beyond what I want, then swipe back to it, it usually does what I want. I cannot promise this will work for anybody else, maybe not even me next time. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jan 4, 2023, at 11:21 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:







I agree that it has become increasingly easy to accidentally create a folder, even though I am sure I heard VO indicate that the app would be ready to drop to the left or right of the app I’m on.  In doing some cleanup this week, I found
 that, if I was really patient and waited for VO to fully finished saying the phrase “drop after blah, blah blah” and gave it one more short pause, my success rate for getting the app where I wanted it was much higher.

 
Robin
 


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I think you should report this to Apple Accessibility because I have had this happen as well quite a lot and I believe it's simply a bug.
All you can do when it happens is take the items out of the folder and try again, it will work eventually.
 


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I mostly understand how to move apps around the home screen, to and from the App library, but I do not always get the results I want.

 
I have a row on my home screen that is empty except for one app. I want to place an app to the right of that one lone app on that row. I can’t do it consistently.
 
I sometimes create folders without wanting to do so. VoiceOver announces “Drop App X before (or after) app y, and that’s what I want to do, but when I double-tap, I’ve created a folder. Then I have to drag an app out of the folder to get
 rid of it. 
 
Can anybody shed any light on what I might be missing in all this?
 
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[Alex Stone]

I’ve also seen this issue.

Sent from my iPhone

On 4 Jan 2023, at 17:23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I think you should report this to Apple Accessibility because I have had this 
happen as well quite a lot and I believe it's simply a bug.
All you can do when it happens is take the items out of the folder and try 
again, it will work eventually.

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I mostly understand how to move apps around the home screen, to and from the 
App library, but I do not always get the results I want.

I have a row on my home screen that is empty except for one app. I want to 
place an app to the right of that one lone app on that row. I can’t do it 
consistently.

I sometimes create folders without wanting to do so. VoiceOver announces “Drop 
App X before (or after) app y, and that’s what I want to do, but when I 
double-tap, I’ve created a folder. Then I have to drag an app out of the folder 
to get rid of it.

Can anybody shed any light on what I might be missing in all this?

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RE: moving apps

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I agree that it has become increasingly easy to accidentally create a folder, 
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Robin

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Subject: RE: moving apps

I think you should report this to Apple Accessibility because I have had this 
happen as well quite a lot and I believe it's simply a bug.
All you can do when it happens is take the items out of the folder and try 
again, it will work eventually.

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Subject: moving apps

I mostly understand how to move apps around the home screen, to and from the 
App library, but I do not always get the results I want.

I have a row on my home screen that is empty except for one app. I want to 
place an app to the right of that one lone app on that row. I can’t do it 
consistently.

I sometimes create folders without wanting to do so. VoiceOver announces “Drop 
App X before (or after) app y, and that’s what I want to do, but when I 
double-tap, I’ve created a folder. Then I have to drag an app out of the folder 
to get rid of it.

Can anybody shed any light on what I might be missing in all this?

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RE: moving apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think you should report this to Apple Accessibility because I have had this 
happen as well quite a lot and I believe it's simply a bug.
All you can do when it happens is take the items out of the folder and try 
again, it will work eventually.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: moving apps

I mostly understand how to move apps around the home screen, to and from the 
App library, but I do not always get the results I want.

I have a row on my home screen that is empty except for one app. I want to 
place an app to the right of that one lone app on that row. I can’t do it 
consistently.

I sometimes create folders without wanting to do so. VoiceOver announces “Drop 
App X before (or after) app y, and that’s what I want to do, but when I 
double-tap, I’ve created a folder. Then I have to drag an app out of the folder 
to get rid of it.

Can anybody shed any light on what I might be missing in all this?

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moving apps

[dlmlaochi]

I mostly understand how to move apps around the home screen, to and from the
App library, but I do not always get the results I want. 
 
I have a row on my home screen that is empty except for one app. I want to
place an app to the right of that one lone app on that row. I can't do it
consistently.
 
I sometimes create folders without wanting to do so. VoiceOver announces
"Drop App X before (or after) app y, and that's what I want to do, but when
I double-tap, I've created a folder. Then I have to drag an app out of the
folder to get rid of it. 
 
Can anybody shed any light on what I might be missing in all this?
 

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RE: Moving apps

[Christopher Chaltain]

To move an app on one of your home screens, find the app you want to move and 
flick down and double tap on edit mode. Now flick down and add the app to the 
drag session. You can now move around your home pages just as you normally 
would, and when you get to where you want to place the app, flick down to have 
it added before or after the app you just landed on. You can also add apps to 
folders this way and create folders. Give this alternative method a try and 
good luck.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 2:35 AM
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Subject: Moving apps



Hello all,
I have not done this in a long time and apparently have forgotten how. I looked 
in the user guide and have tried to move an app by locating it by touch, double 
tapping at holding, and then moving to the location where I want the app to 
land. However, although the app moves, it does not move to the location that is 
announced. Any tips greatly appreciated Amy


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Moving apps

[Amy Ruell]


Hello all,
I have not done this in a long time and apparently have forgotten how. I looked 
in the user guide and have tried to move an app by locating it by touch, double 
tapping at holding, and then moving to the location where I want the app to 
land. However, although the app moves, it does not move to the location that is 
announced. Any tips greatly appreciated
Amy


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Re: Moving apps around the screen?

['Lynda boose' via VIPhone]

No, this is great.
Lynda and Missy

On 11/15/2019 2:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


You may want to do a Google search for something like “How to move 
apps with Voiceover), you will find plenty of instructions like this one:


Organizing Apps in iOS 10 With Voiceover - iAccessibility 
<https://iaccessibility.net/organizing-apps-in-ios-10-with-voiceover/>


Also, if you search the archives you will find many posts where it has 
been explained.


Sorry, if you need somebody to write it out for you this time somebody 
else has to come to the rescue, it's been a very long day today and as 
I said, that information is easily available in the archives or by 
finding an article or Podcast about it.


Regards,

Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Moving apps around the screen?

I have an iphone 8 and am trying to arrange my apps.  Need some 
suggestions for how to easily move things around.


Also, how do I move something from one page to another page?

Thank you.

Lynda and Missy

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RE: Moving apps around the screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may want to do a Google search for something like “How to move apps with 
Voiceover), you will find plenty of instructions like this one:



Organizing Apps in iOS 10 With Voiceover - 
iAccessibility<https://iaccessibility.net/organizing-apps-in-ios-10-with-voiceover/>



Also, if you search the archives you will find many posts where it has been 
explained.

Sorry, if you need somebody to write it out for you this time somebody else has 
to come to the rescue, it's been a very long day today and as I said, that 
information is easily available in the archives or by finding an article or 
Podcast about it.



Regards,

Sieghard



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From: 'Lynda boose' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Moving apps around the screen?



I have an iphone 8 and am trying to arrange my apps.  Need some suggestions for 
how to easily move things around.



Also, how do I move something from one page to another page?



Thank you.





Lynda and Missy



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Moving apps around the screen?

['Lynda boose' via VIPhone]

I have an iphone 8 and am trying to arrange my apps.  Need some 
suggestions for how to easily move things around.


Also, how do I move something from one page to another page?

Thank you.


Lynda and Missy


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Moving apps to the doc

[Larry Smith]

Good morning. Can someone tell me the procedure for putting apps on the doc? I 
am using a Mac Air. Thanks

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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Karen Poulakos]

Wow!  That is so much easier.  I’m using my new SE, with the latest IOS update. 
 There are some apps on this phone that were not on my 5S, and because I don’t 
know if I’ll ever use them, I want to move them into a folder to clean up my 
screen a bit.

 

Thanks so much for the help.

 

Karen

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 11:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

 

If you still do the double tap and hold followed by dragging the app  you are 
doing it the hard way. I assume you are at least on iOS 9 or 10, not actually 
sure any more when the easy was introduced, but all you have to do when you are 
on an app you want to move is to swipe down or up with one finger where 
Voiceover says “Editing Mode”, then double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”. This basically replaces the double tap and hold.

Next swipe down twice to “drag” followed by the name of the app you want to 
move and double tap.

Now go to where you want to put the app whether it’s in a different position on 
the home screen, a different home screen or a folder. Put focus on the folder 
or another app and swipe down again, you now have the following options:

 

Drop AppName before AppName (or FolderName) (the first AppName is the app you 
are dragging, the second is the app or folder you are on.

Swipe down again and you have Drop AppName after whatever app or folder you are 
on

Swipe down again and if you put focus on a folder you hear “Drop AppName in 
whatever folder you are on.

Whichever option you want to do, drop before, drop after or drop in a folder, 
just double tap when you get there and that’s it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

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Re: Any trouble moving apps?

['Bill Gallik' via VIPhone]

I just have to add my two cents here; I wasn’t even aware of the enhanced app 
management feature until a couple of weeks ago.  I had been having fits trying 
to arrange apps on my iPad Mini II to reflect a similar layout to my iPhone.  
This enhanced app management feature is just a piece of cake.

I never cease to wonder at the ingenuity of the Apple software engineers and 
how iOS works so well with accessibility features.

And before anybody opts to make a snide comment about me “drinking the Apple 
Kool-Aid,” permit me to remind any such curmudgeon that I had a quite 
successful career as a software engineer at Bell Laboratories - translate that 
as, I do know a bit about software design and development.  I tip my cap to 
those characters in Cupertino! ;-) 


- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another."
- German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)

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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you still do the double tap and hold followed by dragging the app  you are 
doing it the hard way. I assume you are at least on iOS 9 or 10, not actually 
sure any more when the easy was introduced, but all you have to do when you are 
on an app you want to move is to swipe down or up with one finger where 
Voiceover says “Editing Mode”, then double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”. This basically replaces the double tap and hold.
Next swipe down twice to “drag” followed by the name of the app you want to 
move and double tap.
Now go to where you want to put the app whether it’s in a different position on 
the home screen, a different home screen or a folder. Put focus on the folder 
or another app and swipe down again, you now have the following options:

Drop AppName before AppName (or FolderName) (the first AppName is the app you 
are dragging, the second is the app or folder you are on.
Swipe down again and you have Drop AppName after whatever app or folder you are 
on
Swipe down again and if you put focus on a folder you hear “Drop AppName in 
whatever folder you are on.
Whichever option you want to do, drop before, drop after or drop in a folder, 
just double tap when you get there and that’s it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

I am also having trouble with this.  sometimes it works, and sometimes not.  
I’ve been trying to move apps into a folder.

I double tap and hold on the app, then slide  my finger until I hear the folder 
name.  I hold my finger on the folder, and it doesn’t open as it used to.

Karen
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

I encountered this the other day when I was trying to move an app into an 
existing folder. I just spent 10 minutes trying to get it to malfunction again, 
but it is working as it should today. It was as if the selector was one 
position below what VoiceOver was reading, putting onto cancel drag. Try 
swiping up one more time, then down to drop, and see if that works. If not, 
leave it on whatever the one above drop is, and see if it drops it. I think 
that is what I had to do. I have no idea why it malfunctioned then, why it 
works as it should now, and can just hope it keeps working correctly.

Arnold Schmidt
--
On Apr 6, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tom Rash 
mailto:dadnthed...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I used to be able to do this with no troubles.  I tried moving more apps today 
but can’t do it.  The process looks pretty normal until I drop the app in 
question, then it says, “Cancel drop.”  Apparently it works with voice over 
off.  Do you think resetting network settings would have any effect?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

I can double tap on a folder and it opens when I’m already in editing mode and 
have selected an app to drag.
Here is what I do, let’s assume I want to drag the Facebook app into a folder 
called Social Media:
1. I find the Facebook app on my home page, flick down with one finger so 
Voiceover says “Edit Mode” and then I double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”.
2. I flick down to where Voiceover says “Drag Facebook” and then I double tap, 
I hear a little tone.
3. I now go to my second home page where I have a folder called Social media, 
once I put focus on it Voiceover says “Social media folder, is editing, 3 items”
4. I double tap and hear the sound Voiceover makes when the folder opens and 
Voiceover says “Folder name, Social Media, text field”
5. I can now flick right to whatever app I want, let’s say WhatsApp is my first 
app and I want to drop Facebook after WhatsApp, then I flick to WhatsApp and 
now I can flick down until I hear “Drop Facebook after WhatsApp”, then I double 
tap and Facebook gets dropped into the Social Media folder after WhatsApp.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

Well, I’m clearly missing something obvious, which is how to start edit mode 
once you have a folder open. If you open the folder, then that folder has the 
focus, I should say the apps in the folder can be focused. So how do you get 
out of the folder back to the app you want to move? Or if you start the edit 
process before trying to open the folder, and you go to double tap on the 
folder, then that’s not going to open the folder. So

RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Tom Rash]

Well, I did reset network settings and now it works.  Who knows!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

 

Is your screen dirty? Maybe try to clean it, sometimes strange things happen if 
the screen or even just a part of it is dirty.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

 

I used to be able to do this with no troubles.  I tried moving more apps today 
but can’t do it.  The process looks pretty normal until I drop the app in 
question, then it says, “Cancel drop.”  Apparently it works with voice over 
off.  Do you think resetting network settings would have any effect?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

 

I can double tap on a folder and it opens when I’m already in editing mode and 
have selected an app to drag.

Here is what I do, let’s assume I want to drag the Facebook app into a folder 
called Social Media:

1. I find the Facebook app on my home page, flick down with one finger so 
Voiceover says “Edit Mode” and then I double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”.

2. I flick down to where Voiceover says “Drag Facebook” and then I double tap, 
I hear a little tone.

3. I now go to my second home page where I have a folder called Social media, 
once I put focus on it Voiceover says “Social media folder, is editing, 3 items”

4. I double tap and hear the sound Voiceover makes when the folder opens and 
Voiceover says “Folder name, Social Media, text field”

5. I can now flick right to whatever app I want, let’s say WhatsApp is my first 
app and I want to drop Facebook after WhatsApp, then I flick to WhatsApp and 
now I can flick down until I hear “Drop Facebook after WhatsApp”, then I double 
tap and Facebook gets dropped into the Social Media folder after WhatsApp.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

Well, I’m clearly missing something obvious, which is how to start edit mode 
once you have a folder open. If you open the folder, then that folder has the 
focus, I should say the apps in the folder can be focused. So how do you get 
out of the folder back to the app you want to move? Or if you start the edit 
process before trying to open the folder, and you go to double tap on the 
folder, then that’s not going to open the folder. So clearly I’m missing 
something here.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app to 
go and then swipe down and select to drop before or after said app. You can of 
course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain place 
inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, select to 
drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first and putting 
it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

 

On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 


I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash < <mailt

RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Karen Poulakos]

I am also having trouble with this.  sometimes it works, and sometimes not.  
I’ve been trying to move apps into a folder.  

 

I double tap and hold on the app, then slide  my finger until I hear the folder 
name.  I hold my finger on the folder, and it doesn’t open as it used to.

 

Karen 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

I encountered this the other day when I was trying to move an app into an 
existing folder. I just spent 10 minutes trying to get it to malfunction again, 
but it is working as it should today. It was as if the selector was one 
position below what VoiceOver was reading, putting onto cancel drag. Try 
swiping up one more time, then down to drop, and see if that works. If not, 
leave it on whatever the one above drop is, and see if it drops it. I think 
that is what I had to do. I have no idea why it malfunctioned then, why it 
works as it should now, and can just hope it keeps working correctly.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

--

On Apr 6, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:

I used to be able to do this with no troubles.  I tried moving more apps today 
but can’t do it.  The process looks pretty normal until I drop the app in 
question, then it says, “Cancel drop.”  Apparently it works with voice over 
off.  Do you think resetting network settings would have any effect?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

 

I can double tap on a folder and it opens when I’m already in editing mode and 
have selected an app to drag.

Here is what I do, let’s assume I want to drag the Facebook app into a folder 
called Social Media:

1. I find the Facebook app on my home page, flick down with one finger so 
Voiceover says “Edit Mode” and then I double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”.

2. I flick down to where Voiceover says “Drag Facebook” and then I double tap, 
I hear a little tone.

3. I now go to my second home page where I have a folder called Social media, 
once I put focus on it Voiceover says “Social media folder, is editing, 3 items”

4. I double tap and hear the sound Voiceover makes when the folder opens and 
Voiceover says “Folder name, Social Media, text field”

5. I can now flick right to whatever app I want, let’s say WhatsApp is my first 
app and I want to drop Facebook after WhatsApp, then I flick to WhatsApp and 
now I can flick down until I hear “Drop Facebook after WhatsApp”, then I double 
tap and Facebook gets dropped into the Social Media folder after WhatsApp.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

Well, I’m clearly missing something obvious, which is how to start edit mode 
once you have a folder open. If you open the folder, then that folder has the 
focus, I should say the apps in the folder can be focused. So how do you get 
out of the folder back to the app you want to move? Or if you start the edit 
process before trying to open the folder, and you go to double tap on the 
folder, then that’s not going to open the folder. So clearly I’m missing 
something here.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app to 
go and then swipe down and select to drop before or after said app. You can of 
course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain place 
inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, select to 
drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first and putting 
it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.




Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

 

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 






On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM

Re: Any trouble moving apps?

[Arnold Schmidt]

I encountered this the other day when I was trying to move an app into an 
existing folder. I just spent 10 minutes trying to get it to malfunction again, 
but it is working as it should today. It was as if the selector was one 
position below what VoiceOver was reading, putting onto cancel drag. Try 
swiping up one more time, then down to drop, and see if that works. If not, 
leave it on whatever the one above drop is, and see if it drops it. I think 
that is what I had to do. I have no idea why it malfunctioned then, why it 
works as it should now, and can just hope it keeps working correctly.  

Arnold Schmidt 
--
On Apr 6, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:

I used to be able to do this with no troubles.  I tried moving more apps today 
but can’t do it.  The process looks pretty normal until I drop the app in 
question, then it says, “Cancel drop.”  Apparently it works with voice over 
off.  Do you think resetting network settings would have any effect?
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?
 
I can double tap on a folder and it opens when I’m already in editing mode and 
have selected an app to drag.
Here is what I do, let’s assume I want to drag the Facebook app into a folder 
called Social Media:
1. I find the Facebook app on my home page, flick down with one finger so 
Voiceover says “Edit Mode” and then I double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”.
2. I flick down to where Voiceover says “Drag Facebook” and then I double tap, 
I hear a little tone.
3. I now go to my second home page where I have a folder called Social media, 
once I put focus on it Voiceover says “Social media folder, is editing, 3 items”
4. I double tap and hear the sound Voiceover makes when the folder opens and 
Voiceover says “Folder name, Social Media, text field”
5. I can now flick right to whatever app I want, let’s say WhatsApp is my first 
app and I want to drop Facebook after WhatsApp, then I flick to WhatsApp and 
now I can flick down until I hear “Drop Facebook after WhatsApp”, then I double 
tap and Facebook gets dropped into the Social Media folder after WhatsApp.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?
 
Well, I’m clearly missing something obvious, which is how to start edit mode 
once you have a folder open. If you open the folder, then that folder has the 
focus, I should say the apps in the folder can be focused. So how do you get 
out of the folder back to the app you want to move? Or if you start the edit 
process before trying to open the folder, and you go to double tap on the 
folder, then that’s not going to open the folder. So clearly I’m missing 
something here.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app to 
go and then swipe down and select to drop before or after said app. You can of 
course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain place 
inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, select to 
drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first and putting 
it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?
 
I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,
 
I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.
 
Best,
Anna
 
 
 



On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 

I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.
Richard
 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker
 

On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:

For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
drag said item, move to where I want to drop it.  I get a c

RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Is your screen dirty? Maybe try to clean it, sometimes strange things happen if 
the screen or even just a part of it is dirty.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

I used to be able to do this with no troubles.  I tried moving more apps today 
but can’t do it.  The process looks pretty normal until I drop the app in 
question, then it says, “Cancel drop.”  Apparently it works with voice over 
off.  Do you think resetting network settings would have any effect?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

I can double tap on a folder and it opens when I’m already in editing mode and 
have selected an app to drag.
Here is what I do, let’s assume I want to drag the Facebook app into a folder 
called Social Media:
1. I find the Facebook app on my home page, flick down with one finger so 
Voiceover says “Edit Mode” and then I double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”.
2. I flick down to where Voiceover says “Drag Facebook” and then I double tap, 
I hear a little tone.
3. I now go to my second home page where I have a folder called Social media, 
once I put focus on it Voiceover says “Social media folder, is editing, 3 items”
4. I double tap and hear the sound Voiceover makes when the folder opens and 
Voiceover says “Folder name, Social Media, text field”
5. I can now flick right to whatever app I want, let’s say WhatsApp is my first 
app and I want to drop Facebook after WhatsApp, then I flick to WhatsApp and 
now I can flick down until I hear “Drop Facebook after WhatsApp”, then I double 
tap and Facebook gets dropped into the Social Media folder after WhatsApp.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

Well, I’m clearly missing something obvious, which is how to start edit mode 
once you have a folder open. If you open the folder, then that folder has the 
focus, I should say the apps in the folder can be focused. So how do you get 
out of the folder back to the app you want to move? Or if you start the edit 
process before trying to open the folder, and you go to double tap on the 
folder, then that’s not going to open the folder. So clearly I’m missing 
something here.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app to 
go and then swipe down and select to drop before or after said app. You can of 
course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain place 
inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, select to 
drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first and putting 
it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi,

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

Best,
Anna




On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.
Richard

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash 
mailto:dadnthed...@gmail.com>> wrote:
For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
drag said item, move to where I want to drop it.  I get a choice to add to a 
certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.

--
The following information is important for all members o

RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Tom Rash]

I used to be able to do this with no troubles.  I tried moving more apps today 
but can’t do it.  The process looks pretty normal until I drop the app in 
question, then it says, “Cancel drop.”  Apparently it works with voice over 
off.  Do you think resetting network settings would have any effect?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

 

I can double tap on a folder and it opens when I’m already in editing mode and 
have selected an app to drag.

Here is what I do, let’s assume I want to drag the Facebook app into a folder 
called Social Media:

1. I find the Facebook app on my home page, flick down with one finger so 
Voiceover says “Edit Mode” and then I double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”.

2. I flick down to where Voiceover says “Drag Facebook” and then I double tap, 
I hear a little tone.

3. I now go to my second home page where I have a folder called Social media, 
once I put focus on it Voiceover says “Social media folder, is editing, 3 items”

4. I double tap and hear the sound Voiceover makes when the folder opens and 
Voiceover says “Folder name, Social Media, text field”

5. I can now flick right to whatever app I want, let’s say WhatsApp is my first 
app and I want to drop Facebook after WhatsApp, then I flick to WhatsApp and 
now I can flick down until I hear “Drop Facebook after WhatsApp”, then I double 
tap and Facebook gets dropped into the Social Media folder after WhatsApp.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

Well, I’m clearly missing something obvious, which is how to start edit mode 
once you have a folder open. If you open the folder, then that folder has the 
focus, I should say the apps in the folder can be focused. So how do you get 
out of the folder back to the app you want to move? Or if you start the edit 
process before trying to open the folder, and you go to double tap on the 
folder, then that’s not going to open the folder. So clearly I’m missing 
something here.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app to 
go and then swipe down and select to drop before or after said app. You can of 
course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain place 
inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, select to 
drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first and putting 
it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.



Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 





On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 


I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.

Richard

 

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any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash < <mailto:dadnthed...@gmail.com> 
dadnthed...@gmail.com> wrote:

For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
drag said item, move to where I want to drop it.  I get a choice to add to a 
certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.  

 

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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Tom Rash]

No, folder’s not in the doc.  Thanks though.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

Hi Tom,
By any chance, is the folder into which you were trying to move an app located 
in your dock? If so, I believe that is the problem. I have never been able to 
move an app into a folder, so long as that folder was in the dock. so I have to 
move it out, move the app into it, and then move it back. I have reported this 
to Apple.

 

Sent from my iPhone


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For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Tom Rash]

I never had to do that before, but will give that a try.  If you’re on a folder 
that you want to add to while in edit mode, it does ask if you want to drop 
said file into said folder.

 

 

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Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 12:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

 

Hi,

 

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 





On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 


I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


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For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Tom Rash]

Thanks.  I did try that.  No luck.  My son was able to do it for me by turning 
voice over off. Never had this problem before.  I’ll play with it some more. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 12:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

 

Hi Tom,

I had that happen the other day. Reboot your iPhone and then give it another 
try.

Mr. Ed

 

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Subject: Any trouble moving apps?

 

For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
drag said item, move to where I want to drop it.  I get a choice to add to a 
certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.  

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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

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I have found this the same with certain apps but not all apps.  It seems to be 
inconsistent as I have not been able to determine  the difference.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: 05 April 2019 19:36
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Subject: Any trouble moving apps?

 

For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
drag said item, move to where I want to drop it.  I get a choice to add to a 
certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.  

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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I can double tap on a folder and it opens when I’m already in editing mode and 
have selected an app to drag.
Here is what I do, let’s assume I want to drag the Facebook app into a folder 
called Social Media:
1. I find the Facebook app on my home page, flick down with one finger so 
Voiceover says “Edit Mode” and then I double tap, Voiceover says “started 
editing”.
2. I flick down to where Voiceover says “Drag Facebook” and then I double tap, 
I hear a little tone.
3. I now go to my second home page where I have a folder called Social media, 
once I put focus on it Voiceover says “Social media folder, is editing, 3 items”
4. I double tap and hear the sound Voiceover makes when the folder opens and 
Voiceover says “Folder name, Social Media, text field”
5. I can now flick right to whatever app I want, let’s say WhatsApp is my first 
app and I want to drop Facebook after WhatsApp, then I flick to WhatsApp and 
now I can flick down until I hear “Drop Facebook after WhatsApp”, then I double 
tap and Facebook gets dropped into the Social Media folder after WhatsApp.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

Well, I’m clearly missing something obvious, which is how to start edit mode 
once you have a folder open. If you open the folder, then that folder has the 
focus, I should say the apps in the folder can be focused. So how do you get 
out of the folder back to the app you want to move? Or if you start the edit 
process before trying to open the folder, and you go to double tap on the 
folder, then that’s not going to open the folder. So clearly I’m missing 
something here.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app to 
go and then swipe down and select to drop before or after said app. You can of 
course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain place 
inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, select to 
drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first and putting 
it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi,

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

Best,
Anna






On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.
Richard

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash 
mailto:dadnthed...@gmail.com>> wrote:
For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
drag said item, move to where I want to drop it.  I get a choice to add to a 
certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.

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Re: Any trouble moving apps?

[Mary Otten]

Well, I’m clearly missing something obvious, which is how to start edit mode 
once you have a folder open. If you open the folder, then that folder has the 
focus, I should say the apps in the folder can be focused. So how do you get 
out of the folder back to the app you want to move? Or if you start the edit 
process before trying to open the folder, and you go to double tap on the 
folder, then that’s not going to open the folder. So clearly I’m missing 
something here.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
> folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
> and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
> then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app 
> to go and then swipe down and select to drop before or after said app. You 
> can of course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain 
> place inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, 
> select to drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first 
> and putting it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?
>  
> I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
> choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding 
> the item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the 
> dock then of course it doesn’t work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
> folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
> restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
> the item before trying to drop it there.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> 
> I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle 
> and didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't 
> done something else; or it is just inconsistent.
> Richard
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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I forgot to mention that if your folder is in the dock and you first open 
the folder then you can drop whatever app or apps you are dragging into the 
folder without first moving it out of the dock.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any trouble moving apps?

What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app to 
go and then swipe down and select to drop before or after said app. You can of 
course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain place 
inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, select to 
drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first and putting 
it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi,

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

Best,
Anna




On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.
Richard

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any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash 
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certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.

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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What you describe works just fine and that is usually how I add apps to a 
folder, however, if you wanted to move the app into a folder with other apps 
and drop it in a certain place say before or after another app in the folder 
then you can open the folder first, find the app where you want the new app to 
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course simply add the app to a folder and I f you want it in a certain place 
inside the folder open the folder afterwards, start editing again, select to 
drag the app and drop it where you want. Opening the folder first and putting 
it exactly where you want saves you that extra step.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi,

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

Best,
Anna





On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.
Richard

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any." -- Alice Walker


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Re: Any trouble moving apps?

[Mary Otten]

I have never opened a folder before putting an app into it. I always get a 
choice of dropping the item before the folder, after the folder, or adding the 
item to the folder. which is what I select. But if it’s the folder in the dock 
then of course it doesn’t work.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
> folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
> restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
> the item before trying to drop it there.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle 
>> and didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I 
>> hadn't done something else; or it is just inconsistent.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
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>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up 
>>> to drag said item, move to where I want to drop it.  I get a choice to add 
>>> to a certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.  
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Re: Any trouble moving apps?

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Now I am confused. If you open a folder, you can’t get to the apps and I have 
never, ever opened a folder before dropping an app into it.

From: Anna Dresner 
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Any trouble moving apps?

Hi,

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

Best,
Anna





  On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


  I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle 
and didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't 
done something else; or it is just inconsistent. 
  Richard



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any." -- Alice Walker


  On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:


For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up 
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certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.  

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Re: Any trouble moving apps?

[Richard Turner]

I've never open a folder first and it has always worked.
Richard



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On Apr 5, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Mr. Ed 
mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> wrote:

Hi Tom,
I had that happen the other day. Reboot your iPhone and then give it another 
try.
Mr. Ed

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For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
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RE: Any trouble moving apps?

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Tom,

I had that happen the other day. Reboot your iPhone and then give it another 
try.

Mr. Ed

 

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Subject: Any trouble moving apps?

 

For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up to 
drag said item, move to where I want to drop it.  I get a choice to add to a 
certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.  

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Re: Any trouble moving apps?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I had that happen the other day. Then I remembered that I hadn't opened the 
folder before dropping the item. Then I couldn't open the folder, so I had to 
restart my phone. So be sure you open the folder into which you want to drag 
the item before trying to drop it there.

Best,
Anna




> On Apr 5, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner  
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> I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle 
> and didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't 
> done something else; or it is just inconsistent.
> Richard
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> On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Tom Rash  > wrote:
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>> For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up 
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>> to a certain folder and when I double tap that, it says drag canceled.  
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Re: Any trouble moving apps?

[Richard Turner]

I get that sometimes, but I realize that I had the phone at a slight angle and 
didn't get a solid double tap, or I had too many things open, or I hadn't done 
something else; or it is just inconsistent.
Richard



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Re: Any trouble moving apps?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Tom,
By any chance, is the folder into which you were trying to move an app located 
in your dock? If so, I believe that is the problem. I have never been able to 
move an app into a folder, so long as that folder was in the dock. so I have to 
move it out, move the app into it, and then move it back. I have reported this 
to Apple.


Sent from my iPhone

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Any trouble moving apps?

[Tom Rash]

For some reason I cannot move apps.  I swipe up to edit mode then swipe up
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Re: moving apps

[Teresa Christian]

I also have been frustrated with how to move apps, so this explanation
was very helpful for me too.
Very often, I haven't asked a question, but someone else does and I
benefit from the helpful people on this list.
I realize we all do. I know we aren't supposed to clutter the list
with thank yous, but once in a while I just want to say thanks for the
tremendous resource this list is.
Teresa☺


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>
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> Kathy Brack
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
>
> Changed compared to iOS 10 or iOS 9?
>
> Nothing has changed compared to iOS 10, you flick down on any app you want
> to move, Voiceover will say “Edit”, you now double tap.
>
> Now flick down to “Drag app name where app name will be the name of the app,
> e.g. if you are dragging camera it will say “Drag Camera”, double tap this.
>
> Now flick to or touch the app where you want to move the Camera, say it’s
> Calculator.
>
> Flick up or down again to the appropriate option, e.g. Drop Camera before
> Calculator, Drop Camera after Calculator or Create a new folder with Camera
> of Calculator.
>
> If you are trying to put something into an already existing folder, e.g.
> Utilities, it would say “Drop Camera into Utilities.
>
> Double tap whichever option you want and press the home button to end
> editing mode.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
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> Has something changed in moving apps with VO?
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[Kathy Brack]

Thank you so much!

 

Kathy Brack

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: moving apps

 

Changed compared to iOS 10 or iOS 9?

Nothing has changed compared to iOS 10, you flick down on any app you want to 
move, Voiceover will say “Edit”, you now double tap.

Now flick down to “Drag app name where app name will be the name of the app, 
e.g. if you are dragging camera it will say “Drag Camera”, double tap this.

Now flick to or touch the app where you want to move the Camera, say it’s 
Calculator.

Flick up or down again to the appropriate option, e.g. Drop Camera before 
Calculator, Drop Camera after Calculator or Create a new folder with Camera of 
Calculator.

If you are trying to put something into an already existing folder, e.g. 
Utilities, it would say “Drop Camera into Utilities.

Double tap whichever option you want and press the home button to end editing 
mode.

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

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Subject: moving apps

 

Has something changed in moving apps with VO?

 

Kathy Brack

 

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RE: moving apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Changed compared to iOS 10 or iOS 9?
Nothing has changed compared to iOS 10, you flick down on any app you want to 
move, Voiceover will say “Edit”, you now double tap.
Now flick down to “Drag app name where app name will be the name of the app, 
e.g. if you are dragging camera it will say “Drag Camera”, double tap this.
Now flick to or touch the app where you want to move the Camera, say it’s 
Calculator.
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Calculator, Drop Camera after Calculator or Create a new folder with Camera of 
Calculator.
If you are trying to put something into an already existing folder, e.g. 
Utilities, it would say “Drop Camera into Utilities.
Double tap whichever option you want and press the home button to end editing 
mode.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Has something changed in moving apps with VO?

Kathy Brack

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moving apps

[Kathy Brack]

Has something changed in moving apps with VO?

 

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moving apps in bluetooth.

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hi guys, can a bluetooth keyboard be used to move apps on iphone5s?, and 
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RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you find you bring up the shortcut menu too often you can always try and 
adjust your 3D Touch sensitivity in Accessibility settings.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joney
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

It does take time to get used to how it works. I’m still playing with it. What 
you get to work, if that’s fine. But most of the time, you will get the change 
shortcut menu instead of get the app to open. I found a few hold gently if you 
do a very light tap and hold very gently so it does not open it will begin to 
edit it’s a tough one to learn.
Joney
talk2o...@gmail.com<mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>
"If God can bring you to it,
He will lead you through it."

On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Marcia Yale 
<dragonca...@gmail.com<mailto:dragonca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
No, I don’t use any screen protector on the iPod and the screen is clean.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

Hi Marcia,

Just a little thing, but first of all, do you use a screen protector or a case 
like the Otterbox Defender which covers the screen? Secondly, have you cleaned 
your screen lately? I know all sorts of weird things can happen when the screen 
gets dirty.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcia Yale
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

It doesn’t have 3-D touch, but the app in focus always opens for me. The 
strange thing is that I can get the gesture to work to invoke a share page, but 
not to get into editing mode. I just wish they would have left the other mode 
alone—add this one for those who want it but keep the other process for those 
of us who like it! I know, I’m dreaming!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

That shouldn’t apply to her iPod Touch, I don’t think even the sixth generation 
iPod Touch has 3D touch, but then again I haven’t kept up too much with the 
iPod Touch devices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

   As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
took me a few tries to get the hang of it.


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On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir 
<michael.f...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed of 
double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the second 
tap.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale 
<dragonca...@gmail.com<mailto:dragonca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
won't be present.

Marcia Yale
It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
accept, and celebrate those differen

Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Davy Cuppens]

Marcia 

please report this bug to Apple, it seems to be a user dependend bug, I know 
Belgians as well that cannot perform this action and they are advanced iphone 
userd, while others have no problem with that.
Regards
Davy 

From: Marcia Yale 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

No, I don’t use any screen protector on the iPod and the screen is clean. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

Hi Marcia,

 

Just a little thing, but first of all, do you use a screen protector or a case 
like the Otterbox Defender which covers the screen? Secondly, have you cleaned 
your screen lately? I know all sorts of weird things can happen when the screen 
gets dirty.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marcia Yale
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

It doesn’t have 3-D touch, but the app in focus always opens for me. The 
strange thing is that I can get the gesture to work to invoke a share page, but 
not to get into editing mode. I just wish they would have left the other mode 
alone—add this one for those who want it but keep the other process for those 
of us who like it! I know, I’m dreaming!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

That shouldn’t apply to her iPod Touch, I don’t think even the sixth generation 
iPod Touch has 3D touch, but then again I haven’t kept up too much with the 
iPod Touch devices.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Panarese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

   As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
took me a few tries to get the hang of it.

 


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
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Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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  On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

   

  Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed of 
double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the second 
tap. 

   

  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale <dragonca...@gmail.com> wrote:

I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
won't be present.

Marcia Yale
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accept, and celebrate those differences.
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Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Joney]

It does take time to get used to how it works. I’m still playing with it. What 
you get to work, if that’s fine. But most of the time, you will get the change 
shortcut menu instead of get the app to open. I found a few hold gently if you 
do a very light tap and hold very gently so it does not open it will begin to 
edit it’s a tough one to learn.

Joney
talk2o...@gmail.com
"If God can bring you to it, 
He will lead you through it."  

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Marcia Yale <dragonca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> No, I don’t use any screen protector on the iPod and the screen is clean.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working
>  
> Hi Marcia,
>  
> Just a little thing, but first of all, do you use a screen protector or a 
> case like the Otterbox Defender which covers the screen? Secondly, have you 
> cleaned your screen lately? I know all sorts of weird things can happen when 
> the screen gets dirty.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marcia Yale
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working
>  
> It doesn’t have 3-D touch, but the app in focus always opens for me. The 
> strange thing is that I can get the gesture to work to invoke a share page, 
> but not to get into editing mode. I just wish they would have left the other 
> mode alone—add this one for those who want it but keep the other process for 
> those of us who like it! I know, I’m dreaming!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working
>  
> That shouldn’t apply to her iPod Touch, I don’t think even the sixth 
> generation iPod Touch has 3D touch, but then again I haven’t kept up too much 
> with the iPod Touch devices.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Panarese
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working
>  
>As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
> the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
> took me a few tries to get the hang of it.
>  
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
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> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
>  
> On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
> Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
> hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
> finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
> apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
> taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
> have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
> with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed 
> of double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the 
> second tap. 
>  
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale <dragonca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
> before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
> hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
> in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
> this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
> won't be present.
> 
> Marcia Yale
> It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
> accept, and celebrate those differences.
> Audre Lorde
> 
> 
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RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Marcia Yale]

No, I don’t use any screen protector on the iPod and the screen is clean. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

Hi Marcia,

 

Just a little thing, but first of all, do you use a screen protector or a case 
like the Otterbox Defender which covers the screen? Secondly, have you cleaned 
your screen lately? I know all sorts of weird things can happen when the screen 
gets dirty.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marcia Yale
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

It doesn’t have 3-D touch, but the app in focus always opens for me. The 
strange thing is that I can get the gesture to work to invoke a share page, but 
not to get into editing mode. I just wish they would have left the other mode 
alone—add this one for those who want it but keep the other process for those 
of us who like it! I know, I’m dreaming!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

That shouldn’t apply to her iPod Touch, I don’t think even the sixth generation 
iPod Touch has 3D touch, but then again I haven’t kept up too much with the 
iPod Touch devices.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Panarese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

   As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
took me a few tries to get the hang of it.

 


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT

 

On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed of 
double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the second 
tap. 

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale <dragonca...@gmail.com> wrote:

I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
won't be present.

Marcia Yale
It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
accept, and celebrate those differences.
Audre Lorde



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Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Russ Kiehne]

This isn’t a issue with using a ipod touch or ipad mini.

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

   As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
took me a few tries to get the hang of it. 


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT




  On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed of 
double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the second 
tap. 

  On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale <dragonca...@gmail.com> wrote:

I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
won't be present.

Marcia Yale
It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
accept, and celebrate those differences.
Audre Lorde



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RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Alan Lemly]

Marcia,

I was having the same problem you described on my iPhone 7 running iOS 10.3.3 
while cleaning off 32-bit apps getting ready for the upgrade. I noticed I kept 
getting a shortcut menu for the app with focus instead of the move/edit action 
starting. As someone else has answered, making sure I used a lighter touch on 
the hold portion of the gesture fixed the problem. I was accidentally invoking 
3D touch. I assume iOS 11 will enter into edit mode following the single finger 
double tap and hold if you make sure the hold isn't pressed too firmly to 
invoke 3D touch.

Good luck.

Alan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marcia Yale
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS11 and moving apps not working

I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes 
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and 
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app in 
focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered this 
problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem won't be 
present.

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RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Marcia,

Just a little thing, but first of all, do you use a screen protector or a case 
like the Otterbox Defender which covers the screen? Secondly, have you cleaned 
your screen lately? I know all sorts of weird things can happen when the screen 
gets dirty.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marcia Yale
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

It doesn’t have 3-D touch, but the app in focus always opens for me. The 
strange thing is that I can get the gesture to work to invoke a share page, but 
not to get into editing mode. I just wish they would have left the other mode 
alone—add this one for those who want it but keep the other process for those 
of us who like it! I know, I’m dreaming!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

That shouldn’t apply to her iPod Touch, I don’t think even the sixth generation 
iPod Touch has 3D touch, but then again I haven’t kept up too much with the 
iPod Touch devices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

   As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
took me a few tries to get the hang of it.


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On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir 
<michael.f...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed of 
double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the second 
tap.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale 
<dragonca...@gmail.com<mailto:dragonca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
won't be present.

Marcia Yale
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RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Marcia Yale]

It doesn’t have 3-D touch, but the app in focus always opens for me. The 
strange thing is that I can get the gesture to work to invoke a share page, but 
not to get into editing mode. I just wish they would have left the other mode 
alone—add this one for those who want it but keep the other process for those 
of us who like it! I know, I’m dreaming!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

That shouldn’t apply to her iPod Touch, I don’t think even the sixth generation 
iPod Touch has 3D touch, but then again I haven’t kept up too much with the 
iPod Touch devices.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Panarese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

 

   As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
took me a few tries to get the hang of it.

 


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On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed of 
double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the second 
tap. 

 

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale <dragonca...@gmail.com> wrote:

I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
won't be present.

Marcia Yale
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accept, and celebrate those differences.
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Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[John Panarese]

   No, I don't think it does. I have an iPod Touch and I don't think it has 3D 
Touch.


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> On Sep 25, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> That shouldn’t apply to her iPod Touch, I don’t think even the sixth 
> generation iPod Touch has 3D touch, but then again I haven’t kept up too much 
> with the iPod Touch devices.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Panarese
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working
>  
>As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
> the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
> took me a few tries to get the hang of it.
>  
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
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> 
>  
> On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
> Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
> hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
> finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
> apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
> taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
> have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
> with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed 
> of double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the 
> second tap. 
>  
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale <dragonca...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dragonca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
> before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
> hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
> in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
> this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
> won't be present.
> 
> Marcia Yale
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> accept, and celebrate those differences.
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RE: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That shouldn’t apply to her iPod Touch, I don’t think even the sixth generation 
iPod Touch has 3D touch, but then again I haven’t kept up too much with the 
iPod Touch devices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Panarese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

   As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
took me a few tries to get the hang of it.


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On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir 
<michael.f...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed of 
double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the second 
tap.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale 
<dragonca...@gmail.com<mailto:dragonca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
won't be present.

Marcia Yale
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accept, and celebrate those differences.
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Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[John Panarese]

   As was also pointed out by someone else, you have to have a light touch on 
the double tap. If you do it too hard, you envoke the 3D touch response. It 
took me a few tries to get the hang of it.


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> On Sep 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture. 
> Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until you 
> hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that, life your 
> finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to drag and drop 
> apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time during which two 
> taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would be helpful if you 
> have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works fine for you other than 
> with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend changing the acceptable speed 
> of double-tapping though. The trick is not to raise your finger after the 
> second tap. 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale  > wrote:
> I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
> before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
> hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
> in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
> this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
> won't be present.
> 
> Marcia Yale
> It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
> accept, and celebrate those differences.
> Audre Lorde
> 
> 
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Re: IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Michael Feir]

Hi Marcia. I've never had an issue making the double-tap and hold gesture.
Simply tap twice but keep your finger down after the second contact until
you hear a short sound and the device say "started editing" After that,
life your finger and proceed to use the rotor and Voiceover gestures to
drag and drop apps. In the accessibility settings, you can change the time
during which two taps will be treeted as a double-tap. Perhaps, that would
be helpful if you have consistant trouble double-tapping. If that works
fine for you other than with entering edit mode, I wouldn't recommend
changing the acceptable speed of double-tapping though. The trick is not to
raise your finger after the second tap.

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM Marcia Yale  wrote:

> I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
> before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
> hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
> in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else
> encountered
> this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
> won't be present.
>
> Marcia Yale
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IOS11 and moving apps not working

[Marcia Yale]

I upgraded my iPod Touch to IOS11 so I could get used to any new processes
before messing with my iPhone, and I cannot seem to time the double-tap and
hold gesture to initiate the editing of apps. Every time I try it, the app
in focus opens instead of editing being invoked. Has anyone else encountered
this problem? I don't want to update my iPhone till I know this problem
won't be present.

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accept, and celebrate those differences.
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RE: Found a bug: Rearranging apps in the dock not possible with the new method, was: Moving apps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, it's a small bug with an easy work-around, but it's probably still a good 
idea if a few of us will report this to Apple Accessibility.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Found a bug: Rearranging apps in the dock not possible with the 
new method, was: Moving apps?

I can reproduce this behavior on 10.2.1.  I had never tried this before, but it 
indeed doesn't seem to work correctly when the doc is full.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Shawn 
Krasniuk [bbssh...@icloud.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Found a bug: Rearranging apps in the dock not possible with the 
new method, was: Moving apps?

Hey Sieghard, I can also reproduce the issue. I don't know if it's because of 
the beta, but who knows.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>

On Mar 15, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Which version of iOS are you using? Also, are both your Mail and Messages apps 
in the dock?
I was going to explain how you do this, but noticed a bug which I had never 
noticed before. Maybe some others can see if they can replicate this because I 
am using 10.3 Beta 6 so it is always possible that this is a new bug which does 
not exist in 10.2.1.
Anyhow, normally you would flick down on say the Mail app so Voiceover says 
"Arranging Apps". Then you double tap and, since "Move Mail" is now the 
default, you can simply double tap again to activate this.
All of this goes as it should, after the second double tap Voiceover says 
"Choose a destination for Mail".
My Mail app is second from the left in the dock, just to the right of the Phone 
app. My Messages app is third, so just to the right of the Mail app.
If I now flick right to the Messages app or touch it to put focus on it, 
Voiceover says "Messages, editing", but if I now flick down where it should 
give me the option to put Mail before Messages or after Messages I am not 
getting any of this, the only two options are "Activate" or "Cancel Move".
If instead I touch any app on the home screen above and flick down I get all 
the options so it appears that as soon as you just want to move an app from one 
position in the dock to another position this method of moving doesn't work and 
you have to double tap and hold, then drag left or right.
Furthermore, what I am describing above is only the case if the dock is full 
with 4 apps in the dock. If I move an app out of the dock to the home screen 
and then try the same action, i.e. trying to move Mail and then touch Messages, 
I can now flick down and select to place mail before Messages (which is where 
it already is) or I can place it after Messages. I can also move my Audible app 
which I have at the bottom right of the dock and which I moved out to the home 
screen to test this, back tot he dock using the new method.
Once it is back and the dock is full you once again can't move the position of 
the 4 apps in the dock except by using the old method of dragging them.
Having said this, doing a double tap and hold and then dragging an app in the 
dock has always been relatively easy since you can't create a folder in the 
dock so if I drag Mail to the right and it says "On Messages" I can just let go 
and they change places whereas if you do this on the home screen it would 
create a folder and you would have to drag Mail a bit to the right of Messages 
to it's in the empty space between the two apps.
I think this is probably a bug nobody has noticed, I still think it should be 
possible to use the new method with the rotor to rearrange apps in the dock 
since you can do so on the home screen and you can do it in the dock as long as 
there are only 3 apps in the dock.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Moving apps?

Somehow my message app and my e-mail app changed places, I want the original 
back but when I try to move them back something does not work right.  I can’t 
read the book and perform the actions at the same time for some reason.

Also, have not received any e-mail from this list recently.  Anyone out there?


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RE: Found a bug: Rearranging apps in the dock not possible with the new method, was: Moving apps?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

I can reproduce this behavior on 10.2.1.  I had never tried this before, but it 
indeed doesn't seem to work correctly when the doc is full.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Shawn 
Krasniuk [bbssh...@icloud.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Found a bug: Rearranging apps in the dock not possible with the 
new method, was: Moving apps?

Hey Sieghard, I can also reproduce the issue. I don't know if it's because of 
the beta, but who knows.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>

On Mar 15, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Which version of iOS are you using? Also, are both your Mail and Messages apps 
in the dock?
I was going to explain how you do this, but noticed a bug which I had never 
noticed before. Maybe some others can see if they can replicate this because I 
am using 10.3 Beta 6 so it is always possible that this is a new bug which does 
not exist in 10.2.1.
Anyhow, normally you would flick down on say the Mail app so Voiceover says 
"Arranging Apps". Then you double tap and, since "Move Mail" is now the 
default, you can simply double tap again to activate this.
All of this goes as it should, after the second double tap Voiceover says 
"Choose a destination for Mail".
My Mail app is second from the left in the dock, just to the right of the Phone 
app. My Messages app is third, so just to the right of the Mail app.
If I now flick right to the Messages app or touch it to put focus on it, 
Voiceover says "Messages, editing", but if I now flick down where it should 
give me the option to put Mail before Messages or after Messages I am not 
getting any of this, the only two options are "Activate" or "Cancel Move".
If instead I touch any app on the home screen above and flick down I get all 
the options so it appears that as soon as you just want to move an app from one 
position in the dock to another position this method of moving doesn't work and 
you have to double tap and hold, then drag left or right.
Furthermore, what I am describing above is only the case if the dock is full 
with 4 apps in the dock. If I move an app out of the dock to the home screen 
and then try the same action, i.e. trying to move Mail and then touch Messages, 
I can now flick down and select to place mail before Messages (which is where 
it already is) or I can place it after Messages. I can also move my Audible app 
which I have at the bottom right of the dock and which I moved out to the home 
screen to test this, back tot he dock using the new method.
Once it is back and the dock is full you once again can't move the position of 
the 4 apps in the dock except by using the old method of dragging them.
Having said this, doing a double tap and hold and then dragging an app in the 
dock has always been relatively easy since you can't create a folder in the 
dock so if I drag Mail to the right and it says "On Messages" I can just let go 
and they change places whereas if you do this on the home screen it would 
create a folder and you would have to drag Mail a bit to the right of Messages 
to it's in the empty space between the two apps.
I think this is probably a bug nobody has noticed, I still think it should be 
possible to use the new method with the rotor to rearrange apps in the dock 
since you can do so on the home screen and you can do it in the dock as long as 
there are only 3 apps in the dock.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Moving apps?

Somehow my message app and my e-mail app changed places, I want the original 
back but when I try to move them back something does not work right.  I can’t 
read the book and perform the actions at the same time for some reason.

Also, have not received any e-mail from this list recently.  Anyone out there?


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Re: Found a bug: Rearranging apps in the dock not possible with the new method, was: Moving apps?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey Sieghard, I can also reproduce the issue. I don't know if it's because of 
the beta, but who knows.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Mar 15, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Which version of iOS are you using? Also, are both your Mail and Messages 
> apps in the dock?
> I was going to explain how you do this, but noticed a bug which I had never 
> noticed before. Maybe some others can see if they can replicate this because 
> I am using 10.3 Beta 6 so it is always possible that this is a new bug which 
> does not exist in 10.2.1.
> Anyhow, normally you would flick down on say the Mail app so Voiceover says 
> "Arranging Apps". Then you double tap and, since "Move Mail" is now the 
> default, you can simply double tap again to activate this.
> All of this goes as it should, after the second double tap Voiceover says 
> "Choose a destination for Mail".
> My Mail app is second from the left in the dock, just to the right of the 
> Phone app. My Messages app is third, so just to the right of the Mail app.
> If I now flick right to the Messages app or touch it to put focus on it, 
> Voiceover says "Messages, editing", but if I now flick down where it should 
> give me the option to put Mail before Messages or after Messages I am not 
> getting any of this, the only two options are "Activate" or "Cancel Move".
> If instead I touch any app on the home screen above and flick down I get all 
> the options so it appears that as soon as you just want to move an app from 
> one position in the dock to another position this method of moving doesn't 
> work and you have to double tap and hold, then drag left or right.
> Furthermore, what I am describing above is only the case if the dock is full 
> with 4 apps in the dock. If I move an app out of the dock to the home screen 
> and then try the same action, i.e. trying to move Mail and then touch 
> Messages, I can now flick down and select to place mail before Messages 
> (which is where it already is) or I can place it after Messages. I can also 
> move my Audible app which I have at the bottom right of the dock and which I 
> moved out to the home screen to test this, back tot he dock using the new 
> method.
> Once it is back and the dock is full you once again can't move the position 
> of the 4 apps in the dock except by using the old method of dragging them.
> Having said this, doing a double tap and hold and then dragging an app in the 
> dock has always been relatively easy since you can't create a folder in the 
> dock so if I drag Mail to the right and it says "On Messages" I can just let 
> go and they change places whereas if you do this on the home screen it would 
> create a folder and you would have to drag Mail a bit to the right of 
> Messages to it's in the empty space between the two apps.
> I think this is probably a bug nobody has noticed, I still think it should be 
> possible to use the new method with the rotor to rearrange apps in the dock 
> since you can do so on the home screen and you can do it in the dock as long 
> as there are only 3 apps in the dock.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>]On Behalf 
> Of Rose
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Moving apps?
>  
> Somehow my message app and my e-mail app changed places, I want the original 
> back but when I try to move them back something does not work right.  I can’t 
> read the book and perform the actions at the same time for some reason. 
>  
> Also, have not received any e-mail from this list recently.  Anyone out 
> there? 
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RE: Moving apps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Rose probably referred to Jonathan Mosen's book "iOS 10 without the Eye".
Anyhow, as I just posted, if you are trying to use this method to rearrange 
apps in the dock and if your dock has 4 apps in it the method won't work and 
you have to double tap and hold and then drag like before.
This of course applies only if 10.2.1 behaves like the most current 10.3 beta.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ryan Mann
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: rosecomb...@cox.net
Subject: Re: Moving apps?

What book are you talking about?  How are you trying to move the apps?  There 
is a new way in recent versions of IOS.  When you get to an app you want to 
move, flick up with one finger until VoiceOver says Arrange Apps. Then 
double-tap.
Flick up until you hear VoiceOver give you the option to move the app. Then 
double-tap.
Move to where you want the app to be moved to.  This can either be on the same 
page or another page.  Start flicking up with one finger.  You will get options 
to move the app either before or after the one you are currently on.  
Double-tap on whatever you want to do.


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On Mar 14, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Rose 
<rosecomb...@cox.net<mailto:rosecomb...@cox.net>> wrote:
Somehow my message app and my e-mail app changed places, I want the original 
back but when I try to move them back something does not work right.  I can’t 
read the book and perform the actions at the same time for some reason.

Also, have not received any e-mail from this list recently.  Anyone out there?


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Found a bug: Rearranging apps in the dock not possible with the new method, was: Moving apps?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Which version of iOS are you using? Also, are both your Mail and Messages apps 
in the dock?
I was going to explain how you do this, but noticed a bug which I had never 
noticed before. Maybe some others can see if they can replicate this because I 
am using 10.3 Beta 6 so it is always possible that this is a new bug which does 
not exist in 10.2.1.
Anyhow, normally you would flick down on say the Mail app so Voiceover says 
"Arranging Apps". Then you double tap and, since "Move Mail" is now the 
default, you can simply double tap again to activate this.
All of this goes as it should, after the second double tap Voiceover says 
"Choose a destination for Mail".
My Mail app is second from the left in the dock, just to the right of the Phone 
app. My Messages app is third, so just to the right of the Mail app.
If I now flick right to the Messages app or touch it to put focus on it, 
Voiceover says "Messages, editing", but if I now flick down where it should 
give me the option to put Mail before Messages or after Messages I am not 
getting any of this, the only two options are "Activate" or "Cancel Move".
If instead I touch any app on the home screen above and flick down I get all 
the options so it appears that as soon as you just want to move an app from one 
position in the dock to another position this method of moving doesn't work and 
you have to double tap and hold, then drag left or right.
Furthermore, what I am describing above is only the case if the dock is full 
with 4 apps in the dock. If I move an app out of the dock to the home screen 
and then try the same action, i.e. trying to move Mail and then touch Messages, 
I can now flick down and select to place mail before Messages (which is where 
it already is) or I can place it after Messages. I can also move my Audible app 
which I have at the bottom right of the dock and which I moved out to the home 
screen to test this, back tot he dock using the new method.
Once it is back and the dock is full you once again can't move the position of 
the 4 apps in the dock except by using the old method of dragging them.
Having said this, doing a double tap and hold and then dragging an app in the 
dock has always been relatively easy since you can't create a folder in the 
dock so if I drag Mail to the right and it says "On Messages" I can just let go 
and they change places whereas if you do this on the home screen it would 
create a folder and you would have to drag Mail a bit to the right of Messages 
to it's in the empty space between the two apps.
I think this is probably a bug nobody has noticed, I still think it should be 
possible to use the new method with the rotor to rearrange apps in the dock 
since you can do so on the home screen and you can do it in the dock as long as 
there are only 3 apps in the dock.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: Moving apps?

Somehow my message app and my e-mail app changed places, I want the original 
back but when I try to move them back something does not work right.  I can’t 
read the book and perform the actions at the same time for some reason.

Also, have not received any e-mail from this list recently.  Anyone out there?


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Re: Moving apps?

[Ryan Mann]

What book are you talking about?  How are you trying to move the apps?  There 
is a new way in recent versions of IOS.  When you get to an app you want to 
move, flick up with one finger until VoiceOver says Arrange Apps. Then 
double-tap.
Flick up until you hear VoiceOver give you the option to move the app. Then 
double-tap.
Move to where you want the app to be moved to.  This can either be on the same 
page or another page.  Start flicking up with one finger.  You will get options 
to move the app either before or after the one you are currently on.  
Double-tap on whatever you want to do.


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> Somehow my message app and my e-mail app changed places, I want the original 
> back but when I try to move them back something does not work right.  I can’t 
> read the book and perform the actions at the same time for some reason. 
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[Rose]

Somehow my message app and my e-mail app changed places, I want the original
back but when I try to move them back something does not work right.  I
can't read the book and perform the actions at the same time for some
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Re: Deleting or moving apps on an AppleTV fourth-generation using a Bluetooth keyboard

[Mary Otten]

Thank you for that information. I am definitely going to go try it. Have a 
couple of apps I want to get rid of.
Mary


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> To delete apps with blu tooth key board.  hold down the inter key on the app 
> you want to delete, then hit the spacebar when it says push play for more 
> options, once you do this, hit inter on delete, and inter again to confirm it.
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Re: Deleting or moving apps on an AppleTV fourth-generation using a Bluetooth keyboard

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To delete apps with blu tooth key board.  hold down the inter key on the app 
you want to delete, then hit the spacebar when it says push play for more 
options, once you do this, hit inter on delete, and inter again to confirm it.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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I am sure this must be possible, right? But I am not having any luck figuring 
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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Robert Doc Wright]

here are those steps:

1. go to the memo you wish to copy
2. change rotor to edit
3. swipe down or up with 1 finger to select all then double tap.
4. Swipe down to copy and double tap
5. go to where you want the message to be pasted.
6. change rotor to edit
7. swipe down to paste and double tap.
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Richard McGann" <rkmcg...@comcast.net>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10



sieghard,

yes, sometimes some issues can work, and if double-tap, then use rotor bar 
and to chek again until see some actions. then double-tap. that is it.


sometimes they don't always work.

for example apple staff claimed thatif I want copy memo for email to 
message, I did follow what staff said: use rotor bar, find edit, then 
double-tap, then go for slelect all, or slelecft left, or lect right, I 
did try select all, and double-tap, thennothing happens as I can't find 
"py7" as I look around and can't find. then when I went to message and got 
into bodily box, and tried paste, as I hit lect all and nohting happens. 
looks like apple is missing something. hope this heps.


sincerely,
rich


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

Hi Eden,

What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am 
concerned it does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this 
way, they just have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't 
make it so a double tap immediately after the initial double tap to start 
arranging apps will go straight to delete. I think most of use the Move 
function a lot more than the delete function so being able to swipe 
up/down to Arrange Apps and do quickly do a double tap followed by another 
double tap without having to swipe is definitely very nice and it gets you 
to where you can move an app very quickly and efficiently.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Eden

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to 
Todd. Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now 
does not. Wonder if it was an update that broke it.


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From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10




Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that 
there is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are 
labelled.


What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double 
tap on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:


Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on 
Arrange Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without 
swiping up or down you end up activating the Move function and not the 
delete function, so "Move" is actually the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context 
it would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" 
and it should further say "Move Facebook, default".


In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that 
doesn't mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the 
labelling/instructions by making it so the "Activate" option says 
"Delete" or "Remove0..



Best regards,
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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Todd Patkus]

Richard,

 

Nope.  I am unable to delete such!

 

I can delete while in texting mode.  I chord d to delete letters.  But cannot 
delete apps.  That one sucks.  That is all.

 

Todd

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

 

 

Todd,

You have been able to delete apps since the first iPhone came out.

The only issue now is the spoken label is not exact, but the delete function 
still works.

I Hope That Helps,

Richard

 

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

- Satsuki Shibuya

 

 

(Sent from my iPod 6)


On Nov 19, 2016, at 1:55 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
<mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

hi, I noticed it, but thought you couldn't delete apps that way, and left it at 
that.

On 19/11/2016 08:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

 

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options are labelled.

 

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

 

Activate, default

Move Facebook

 

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so “Move” is actually 
the default.

. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” or “Remove” and it 
should further say “Move Facebook, default”.

 

In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn’t mean they 
can’t fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
“Activate” option says “Delete” or “Remove”.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Pablo C. Morales]

I haven’t taken any problem deleting apps. More over I  was able to delete apps 
that I never needed, and I really like this flexibility to let me choose what I 
want and what no.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

 

hi, I noticed it, but thought you couldn't delete apps that way, and left it at 
that.

On 19/11/2016 08:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

 

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options are labelled.

 

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

 

Activate, default

Move Facebook

 

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so “Move” is actually 
the default.

. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” or “Remove” and it 
should further say “Move Facebook, default”.

 

In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn’t mean they 
can’t fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
“Activate” option says “Delete” or “Remove”.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Paul Richard McGann]

sieghard,

yes, sometimes some issues can work, and if double-tap, then use rotor bar 
and to chek again until see some actions. then double-tap. that is it.


sometimes they don't always work.

for example apple staff claimed thatif I want copy memo for email to 
message, I did follow what staff said: use rotor bar, find edit, then 
double-tap, then go for slelect all, or slelecft left, or lect right, I did 
try select all, and double-tap, thennothing happens as I can't find "py7" as 
I look around and can't find. then when I went to message and got into 
bodily box, and tried paste, as I hit lect all and nohting happens. looks 
like apple is missing something. hope this heps.


sincerely,
rich


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

Hi Eden,

What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am concerned 
it does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this way, they 
just have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't make it so a 
double tap immediately after the initial double tap to start arranging apps 
will go straight to delete. I think most of use the Move function a lot more 
than the delete function so being able to swipe up/down to Arrange Apps and 
do quickly do a double tap followed by another double tap without having to 
swipe is definitely very nice and it gets you to where you can move an app 
very quickly and efficiently.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Eden

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to 
Todd. Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does 
not. Wonder if it was an update that broke it.


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10




Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that 
there is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are 
labelled.


What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double 
tap on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:


Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on 
Arrange Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping 
up or down you end up activating the Move function and not the delete 
function, so "Move" is actually the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and 
it should further say "Move Facebook, default".


In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that 
doesn't mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the 
labelling/instructions by making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" 
or "Remove0..



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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Richard Turner]

Todd,
You have been able to delete apps since the first iPhone came out.
The only issue now is the spoken label is not exact, but the delete function 
still works.
I Hope That Helps,
Richard


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On Nov 19, 2016, at 1:55 AM, rajmund 
> wrote:

hi, I noticed it, but thought you couldn't delete apps that way, and left it at 
that.
On 19/11/2016 08:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so "Move" is actually 
the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
should further say "Move Facebook, default".

In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't mean they 
can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
"Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove".


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[rajmund]

hi, I noticed it, but thought you couldn't delete apps that way, and 
left it at that.

On 19/11/2016 08:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps 
that there is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options 
are labelled.


What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and 
double tap on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as 
an example:


Activate, default

Move Facebook

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the 
Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on 
Arrange Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without 
swiping up or down you end up activating the Move function and not the 
delete function, so “Move” is actually the default.


. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this 
context it would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” 
or “Remove” and it should further say “Move Facebook, default”.


In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this 
up before I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that 
doesn’t mean they can’t fix it and in fact improve the 
labelling/instructions by making it so the “Activate” option says 
“Delete” or “Remove”.


Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Todd Patkus]

Sieghard,

Yes, the delete feature for iOS should have been enhanced long ago!  But now, 
that it has been brought up to the attention to the staff at Apple 
Accessibility.

Do not forget Microsoft has always had delete.  The, Apple should have done so.

In Windows of any version has delete for years.  Therefore, it should have 
already been enhanced.

We will see what they do.

Todd

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

Hi Eden,

What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am concerned it 
does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this way, they just 
have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't make it so a double tap 
immediately after the initial double tap to start arranging apps will go 
straight to delete. I think most of use the Move function a lot more than the 
delete function so being able to swipe up/down to Arrange Apps and do quickly 
do a double tap followed by another double tap without having to swipe is 
definitely very nice and it gets you to where you can move an app very quickly 
and efficiently.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to Todd. 
Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does not. 
Wonder if it was an update that broke it. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

>
>
> Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,
>  
> I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
> is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.
>  
> What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
> on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:
>  
> Activate, default
> Move Facebook
>  
> However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
> Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange 
> Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down 
> you end up activating the Move function and not the delete function, so 
> "Move" is actually the default.
> . Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
> would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
> should further say "Move Facebook, default".
>  
> In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
> Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
> before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't 
> mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by 
> making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove0..
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Todd,

I still think once you know the correct braille commands this will work 
perfectly well, what I described in my email is not at all taking away from the 
functionality of moving or deleting apps, it is simply a small labelling issue.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

To all:

Now, you Apple staff, see where you are missing out.

You should have done this long before but never have you done so.  Now, you 
should do something about the issue here.

You cannot exclude deafblind like this.  You have many customers who are 
deafblind who are strong Braille users.  Look at me a strong Braille user.  
Rich McGann as a strong Braille user.  Therefore, for all, you need to do more 
than that!

Based on ADA Title III Public Accommodations, we deafblind have every right as 
the “normal” folks do.  That means we deafblind have the same rights as the 
majority does!

Please, Apple staff, take this into consideration to do something about this 
type of issue.

Thank y’all.

Todd

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:21 AM
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Cc: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
<accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>>
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options are labelled.

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so “Move” is actually 
the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” or “Remove” and it 
should further say “Move Facebook, default”.

In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn’t mean they 
can’t fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
“Activate” option says “Delete” or “Remove”.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Eden]

I just meant it used to say delete is all. In other words it was labelled 
correctly. I used wrong wording. Apologies. Yes it works fine. Once you know 
what it now says, what you described works beautifully. 
Eden

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From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:33 am
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

>
>
> Hi Eden,
> 
> What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am concerned 
> it does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this way, they 
> just have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't make it so a 
> double tap immediately after the initial double tap to start arranging apps 
> will go straight to delete. I think most of use the Move function a lot more 
> than the delete function so being able to swipe up/down to Arrange Apps and 
> do quickly do a double tap followed by another double tap without having to 
> swipe is definitely very nice and it gets you to where you can move an app 
> very quickly and efficiently.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eden
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10
> 
> This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to Todd. 
> Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does not. 
> Wonder if it was an update that broke it. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
> Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,
> >  
> > I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that 
> > there is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are 
> > labelled.
> >  
> > What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double 
> > tap on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:
> >  
> > Activate, default
> > Move Facebook
> >  
> > However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
> > Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on 
> > Arrange Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping 
> > up or down you end up activating the Move function and not the delete 
> > function, so "Move" is actually the default.
> > . Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
> > would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and 
> > it should further say "Move Facebook, default".
> >  
> > In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
> > Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
> > before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't 
> > mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by 
> > making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove0..
> >  
> >  
> > Best regards,
> > Sieghard
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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Todd Patkus]

To all:

 

Now, you Apple staff, see where you are missing out.

 

You should have done this long before but never have you done so.  Now, you 
should do something about the issue here.

 

You cannot exclude deafblind like this.  You have many customers who are 
deafblind who are strong Braille users.  Look at me a strong Braille user.  
Rich McGann as a strong Braille user.  Therefore, for all, you need to do more 
than that!

 

Based on ADA Title III Public Accommodations, we deafblind have every right as 
the “normal” folks do.  That means we deafblind have the same rights as the 
majority does!

 

Please, Apple staff, take this into consideration to do something about this 
type of issue.

 

Thank y’all.

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'accessibil...@apple.com' <accessibil...@apple.com>
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

 

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

 

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options are labelled.

 

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

 

Activate, default

Move Facebook

 

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so “Move” is actually 
the default.

. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” or “Remove” and it 
should further say “Move Facebook, default”.

 

In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn’t mean they 
can’t fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
“Activate” option says “Delete” or “Remove”.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Eden,

What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am concerned it 
does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this way, they just 
have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't make it so a double tap 
immediately after the initial double tap to start arranging apps will go 
straight to delete. I think most of use the Move function a lot more than the 
delete function so being able to swipe up/down to Arrange Apps and do quickly 
do a double tap followed by another double tap without having to swipe is 
definitely very nice and it gets you to where you can move an app very quickly 
and efficiently.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Eden
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to Todd. 
Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does not. 
Wonder if it was an update that broke it. 

- Original Message -
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To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

>
>
> Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,
>  
> I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
> is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.
>  
> What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
> on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:
>  
> Activate, default
> Move Facebook
>  
> However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
> Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange 
> Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down 
> you end up activating the Move function and not the delete function, so 
> "Move" is actually the default.
> . Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
> would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
> should further say "Move Facebook, default".
>  
> In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
> Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
> before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't 
> mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by 
> making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove0..
>  
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> Sieghard
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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Eden]

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to Todd. 
Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does not. 
Wonder if it was an update that broke it. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

>
>
> Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,
>  
> I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
> is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.
>  
> What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
> on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:
>  
> Activate, default
> Move Facebook
>  
> However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
> Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange 
> Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down 
> you end up activating the Move function and not the delete function, so 
> "Move" is actually the default.
> . Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
> would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
> should further say "Move Facebook, default".
>  
> In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
> Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
> before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't 
> mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by 
> making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove0..
>  
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> Sieghard
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Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so "Move" is actually 
the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
should further say "Move Facebook, default".

In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't mean they 
can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
"Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove".


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Moving apps to folders

[Lynn White]

 Yep, that works very well.

By the way, I learned about this through Jonathan's book while looking to solve 
someone else's issue.

I like how all this works in iOS ten.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’m going to assume you are using iOS 10.
> Moving apps in iOS 10
>  
>  Here is my summary of how it works.
> Touch the app you want to move. 
> Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.
> double tap.
> Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a 
> destination for the app.
> Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.  If you are in 
> a folder and want to move the app out of the folder, do the two finger scrub 
> to close the folder without stopping the edit mode.
> If you want to move the app to a different page, just do the three finger 
> swipe to get there.
> Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the 
> folder, don't open it.
> Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or 
> before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap 
> with 
> one finger and Wala, it is done.
> When you find an app you wish to create a folder with, flick up or down until 
> you hear the option to create a folder with that app, and double tap.
> 
> BTW, deleting apps is the same as always, once it says edit, double tap with 
> one finger and you will get the option to delete it.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
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> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Moving apps to folders
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have quite a number of apps on my home screen making it a little unwieldy.
>  
> Am I right in thinking that these can be moved to folders?  If this is the 
> case please can someone advise me how to create the folders into which I can 
> move them?
>  
> Many thanks,
>  
> Andrew
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RE: Moving apps to folders

[Richard Turner]

I’m going to assume you are using iOS 10.
Moving apps in iOS 10


 Here is my summary of how it works.

Touch the app you want to move.

Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.

double tap.

Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a

destination for the app.

Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.  If you are in a 
folder and want to move the app out of the folder, do the two finger scrub to 
close the folder without stopping the edit mode.

If you want to move the app to a different page, just do the three finger swipe 
to get there.

Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the

folder, don't open it.

Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or

before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with

one finger and Wala, it is done.

When you find an app you wish to create a folder with, flick up or down until 
you hear the option to create a folder with that app, and double tap.

BTW, deleting apps is the same as always, once it says edit, double tap with 
one finger and you will get the option to delete it.

HTH,

Richard



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Andrew Roberts
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Moving apps to folders

Hi,

I have quite a number of apps on my home screen making it a little unwieldy.

Am I right in thinking that these can be moved to folders?  If this is the case 
please can someone advise me how to create the folders into which I can move 
them?

Many thanks,

Andrew
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Moving apps to folders

[Andrew Roberts]

Hi,

 

I have quite a number of apps on my home screen making it a little unwieldy.

 

Am I right in thinking that these can be moved to folders?  If this is the
case please can someone advise me how to create the folders into which I can
move them?

 

Many thanks,

 

Andrew 

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RE: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The scrub gesture works to close folders without ending the moving session or 
you can also flick down to the “Drop name of app out of name of folder”. For 
example, if you have a folder called “Social” and in it you have Facebook, 
Messenger, Skype and Whats App and you now want to move Skype out of that 
folder because you want it on the home screen, you go into the folder, put 
focus on Skype and then flick down once to “Arrange Apps”. Now double tap to 
get into editing/moving mode, then double tap again since focus is now on 
“Move”. Voiceover will say “Choose a destination for Skype”. Now flick down 
once and you’ll hear “Drop Skype out of Social Folder”. Double tap and the 
folder will close and you are back on whichever home page the folder is on, you 
can now go to any position on that home page or use the 3-finger swipe left or 
right to go to a different home page etc. Once you are where you want to be 
select whichever option you want from the rotor as in Insert before, insert 
after or create folder with.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Robin Frost
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

Hi,
Next time try using the scrub gesture to close the folder instead of the home 
button.
Robin


From: Sherrie
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

I love this new way of moving apps but I did discover one little thing. I 
wanted to move an app from inside a folder to another folder. I chose the app 
and then when I tried to close that folder to go to the second one the press of 
the home button ended the edit procedure. So I just moved the app out of the 
first folder the same way as before and then chose it to move the new way.
I had apps stuck all over the place before because it was just too frustrating 
to try and try to get them moved with IOS 9 so I think 10 is worth it just for 
this feature!
Sherrie Gosling


From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?


Here is my summary of how it works.

Touch the app you want to move.

Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.

double tap.

Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a

destination for the app.

Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.

If a different page, just do the three finger swipe to get there.

Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the

folder, don't open it.

Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or

before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with

one finger and wala, it is done.

HTH,

Richard
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On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Jim Portillo 
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Howdy,
SO, a week into the new iPhone and new IOS 10 and I'm running into an 
interesting issue. I downloaded some new apps that need to go into folders I'd 
created a while back on my older iPhone and IOS. When I double-tap on the app 
and hold, a message comes up saying something about dismissing shortcut menu. 
I'm guessing there's a new way of moving apps.  Where can I find directions or 
a tutorial on how to do this?
Also, what about deleting apps?  I can't seem to do that either.
Thanks.
Jim

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RE: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

[Richard Turner]

Yes, when you did the first part and got to the place of moving an app, when 
you find an app you wish to create a folder with, flick up or down until you 
hear the option to create a folder with that app.
Pretty slick.
BTW, deleting apps is the same as always, once it says edit, double tap with 
one finger and you will get the option to delete it.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Portillo
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

Thanks Richard.
And, what if I want to create a new folder.  That will now be different, right?
Jim


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Subject: Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?


 Here is my summary of how it works.

Touch the app you want to move.

Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.

double tap.

Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a

destination for the app.

Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.

If a different page, just do the three finger swipe to get there.

Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the

folder, don't open it.

Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or

before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with

one finger and wala, it is done.

HTH,

Richard
YU

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Jim Portillo 
<portillo@gmail.com<mailto:portillo@gmail.com>> wrote:
Howdy,
SO, a week into the new iPhone and new IOS 10 and I'm running into an 
interesting issue. I downloaded some new apps that need to go into folders I'd 
created a while back on my older iPhone and IOS. When I double-tap on the app 
and hold, a message comes up saying something about dismissing shortcut menu. 
I'm guessing there's a new way of moving apps.  Where can I find directions or 
a tutorial on how to do this?
Also, what about deleting apps?  I can't seem to do that either.
Thanks.
Jim

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RE: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

[Jim Portillo]

Thanks Richard.

And, what if I want to create a new folder.  That will now be different, right?

Jim

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

 

 Here is my summary of how it works.

Touch the app you want to move. 

Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.

double tap.

Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a 

destination for the app.

Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.

If a different page, just do the three finger swipe to get there.

Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the 

folder, don't open it.

Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or 

before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with 

one finger and wala, it is done.

HTH,

Richard

YU

 

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- Satsuki Shibuya

 

 

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On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Jim Portillo <portillo@gmail.com 
<mailto:portillo@gmail.com> > wrote:

Howdy,
SO, a week into the new iPhone and new IOS 10 and I'm running into an 
interesting issue. I downloaded some new apps that need to go into folders I'd 
created a while back on my older iPhone and IOS. When I double-tap on the app 
and hold, a message comes up saying something about dismissing shortcut menu. 
I'm guessing there's a new way of moving apps.  Where can I find directions or 
a tutorial on how to do this?
Also, what about deleting apps?  I can't seem to do that either.
Thanks.
Jim

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Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Next time try using the scrub gesture to close the folder instead of the home 
button.
Robin


From: Sherrie 
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

I love this new way of moving apps but I did discover one little thing. I 
wanted to move an app from inside a folder to another folder. I chose the app 
and then when I tried to close that folder to go to the second one the press of 
the home button ended the edit procedure. So I just moved the app out of the 
first folder the same way as before and then chose it to move the new way.
I had apps stuck all over the place before because it was just too frustrating 
to try and try to get them moved with IOS 9 so I think 10 is worth it just for 
this feature!
Sherrie Gosling


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

Here is my summary of how it works.

Touch the app you want to move. 

Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.

double tap.

Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a 

destination for the app.

Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.

If a different page, just do the three finger swipe to get there.

Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the 

folder, don't open it.

Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or 

before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with 

one finger and wala, it is done.

HTH,

Richard

YU

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Jim Portillo <portillo@gmail.com> wrote:


  Howdy,
  SO, a week into the new iPhone and new IOS 10 and I'm running into an 
interesting issue. I downloaded some new apps that need to go into folders I'd 
created a while back on my older iPhone and IOS. When I double-tap on the app 
and hold, a message comes up saying something about dismissing shortcut menu. 
I'm guessing there's a new way of moving apps.  Where can I find directions or 
a tutorial on how to do this?
  Also, what about deleting apps?  I can't seem to do that either.
  Thanks.
  Jim

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Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

[Sherrie]

I love this new way of moving apps but I did discover one little thing. I 
wanted to move an app from inside a folder to another folder. I chose the app 
and then when I tried to close that folder to go to the second one the press of 
the home button ended the edit procedure. So I just moved the app out of the 
first folder the same way as before and then chose it to move the new way.
I had apps stuck all over the place before because it was just too frustrating 
to try and try to get them moved with IOS 9 so I think 10 is worth it just for 
this feature!
Sherrie Gosling


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

Here is my summary of how it works.

Touch the app you want to move. 

Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.

double tap.

Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a 

destination for the app.

Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.

If a different page, just do the three finger swipe to get there.

Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the 

folder, don't open it.

Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or 

before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with 

one finger and wala, it is done.

HTH,

Richard

YU

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- Satsuki Shibuya




(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Jim Portillo <portillo@gmail.com> wrote:


  Howdy,
  SO, a week into the new iPhone and new IOS 10 and I'm running into an 
interesting issue. I downloaded some new apps that need to go into folders I'd 
created a while back on my older iPhone and IOS. When I double-tap on the app 
and hold, a message comes up saying something about dismissing shortcut menu. 
I'm guessing there's a new way of moving apps.  Where can I find directions or 
a tutorial on how to do this?
  Also, what about deleting apps?  I can't seem to do that either.
  Thanks.
  Jim

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Re: Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

[Richard Turner]

 Here is my summary of how it works.

Touch the app you want to move.

Flick up once and you should hear, Arrange apps.

double tap.

Then, do a two finger double tap and it should say something like choose a

destination for the app.

Now, use your normal method to get to where you want the app.

If a different page, just do the three finger swipe to get there.

Touch where you want the app. Even if you want it in a folder, just touch the

folder, don't open it.

Flick up with 1 finger and you will hear options like, place after x app, or

before x app, or put in x folder, whatever you want to do, just double tap with

one finger and wala, it is done.

HTH,

Richard

YU

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On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Jim Portillo 
<portillo@gmail.com<mailto:portillo@gmail.com>> wrote:

Howdy,
SO, a week into the new iPhone and new IOS 10 and I'm running into an 
interesting issue. I downloaded some new apps that need to go into folders I'd 
created a while back on my older iPhone and IOS. When I double-tap on the app 
and hold, a message comes up saying something about dismissing shortcut menu. 
I'm guessing there's a new way of moving apps.  Where can I find directions or 
a tutorial on how to do this?
Also, what about deleting apps?  I can't seem to do that either.
Thanks.
Jim

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Moving apps around and placing them into respective folders?

[Jim Portillo]

Howdy,
SO, a week into the new iPhone and new IOS 10 and I'm running into an 
interesting issue. I downloaded some new apps that need to go into folders I'd 
created a while back on my older iPhone and IOS. When I double-tap on the app 
and hold, a message comes up saying something about dismissing shortcut menu. 
I'm guessing there's a new way of moving apps.  Where can I find directions or 
a tutorial on how to do this?
Also, what about deleting apps?  I can't seem to do that either.
Thanks.
Jim

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Re: Moving Apps in IOS 10 Question

[Tom Lange]

Great stuff! That one's a keeper. Much appreciated.


Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A couple of us have written steps, but here goes another try.
> 1. Touch, do not open an app or folder.
> 2. flick down or up with one finger and you should hear "arrange apps."
> 3. Double tap with one finger.
> 4. Flick down or up until you hear "move ..." it will say the app name or 
> folder name, whatever you are wanting to move.
> 5. Double tap with one finger, and you will hear "pick a location for said 
> app or folder."
> 6. Now, go to wherever you are wanting to move the app or folder. If it is an 
> app you are moving, and you want it in a folder, do not open the destination 
> folder, just touch it.
> 7. Flick up down and you will hear, cancel moving x app, flick down again, 
> and you will hear either add x app to folder, or create a folder with 
> whatever app you are on, flick down again and you will here "put app before x 
> app, once more and you will here "put app after x app.?
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Sep 24, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys,
>> How exactly do you move apps.  can you move them from page to page? Anyone 
>> have an exact procedure how to do it?
>> 
>>> On 9/24/2016 9:51 AM, Jeremy Gilley wrote:
>>> There's a new way?
>>> Did I miss an email? I didn't see anything below this email or is this a new
>>> thread?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Arnold Schmidt
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Moving Apps in IOS 10 Question
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is this wonderful, new way to move apps just for VoiceOver users, or can
>>> sighted users use it, too? If so, briefly, how do they do it? I tell you, as
>>> a VoiceOver user, it is worth upgrading just to get this feature. I could
>>> move them the old way, but never quite ended up with everything where I
>>> really wished it were.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Moving Apps in IOS 10 Question

[Mary Otten]

Hi Mickey,
You have a couple of options, well actually three. You can still move things 
out of a folder in the traditional way with double tap hold and slide your 
finger. Using the new way, instead of using the home button to close the 
folder, which also ends remove operation, you can use the iOS "scrub gesture" 
to close the folder, then proceed with the move process in the normal new way. 
You can also find an extra item in the action menu within the folder, once you 
have selected the object you want to move. If you flip down, you should see an 
option that says something like drop application, where application is the 
title of the one you're moving, out of folder. I haven't actually done it that 
way, but if you double tap that I assume that lets you proceed in the new way 
as well. Hope that helps.


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> On Sep 25, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:
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> Ignore my last question, got the answers. Thanks exclamation
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>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 12:00 PM, rajmund  wrote:
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>> Hi, just for your information, the old method still works
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Re: Moving Apps in IOS 10 Question

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Ignore my last question, got the answers. Thanks exclamation

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