RE: Home button haptic

2023-11-18 Thread Richard
Maria and all,

How do you enable the Home Button Haptic and how do you find it on the screen 
once it is activated? Thanks in advance.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net





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Thanks for your help.  I somehow found out how to do it myself.


Maria Campbell
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On 11/4/2023 2:03 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> I seem to have lost the home button haptic when I press it.  How do I 
> get it back?  Thank you.
>
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Re: Home button haptic

2023-11-04 Thread Maria Campbell

Thanks for your help.  I somehow found out how to do it myself.


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-
if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.

On 11/4/2023 2:03 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
I seem to have lost the home button haptic when I press it.  How do I 
get it back?  Thank you.





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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

2023-06-02 Thread Terje Strømberg
There is an option to configure home screen command if you find it easier.
If you don't like it you can delete the new command and also reset voice
commands to standard and it works like before.
Home commands option: go to ios settings, accessibility, voice over,
commands, all commands, system. Here you hit the home button and you are
inside home commands for touch screen and keyboard.
If you don't find something you like, you can delete it by focus on it and
svipe up and hit delete.
There are an reset all commands button at the tottom of the commands
screen. The first screen after voice over.
Take care



ons. 24. mai 2023 kl. 01:12 skrev Jennie Facer :

> Hi Andy,
>
> What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you
> feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people,
> just without VoiceOver’s clicks.
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

2023-05-24 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Oh, and to control Voiceover, wither three-finger triple tap or press Power 
Button three times. 

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Subject: RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

The assistive touch button is a very useful feature. How to Enable a Virtual 
Home Button on iPhone or iPad with AssistiveTouch 
<https://osxdaily.com/2018/08/16/enable-virtual-home-button-ios-assistivetouch/>
 

I’ve used it in the past when the home button on one of my older phones was all 
wonky and I didn’t feel like hassling with trying to fix it.

It’s also convenient to have with all the larger sized iPhones. On my XR, I 
have it placed on the right side of the screen (I’m right handed) just above 
the dock of apps. Not necessary, but it’s still nice to have options to do this 
or that gesture 

 

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Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

 

Andy

 

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translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched 
tone than the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM

    Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

Hi Andy, 

 

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the 
screen until you feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for 
sighted people, just without VoiceOver’s clicks.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 



 

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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

2023-05-24 Thread Carolyn Arnold
App Switcher, slide up past Home page to the next signal. 

Siri, press Power Button on right side of phone. 

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How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?
 
Andy
 

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translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched 
tone than the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
    Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

Hi Andy, 

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the 
screen until you feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for 
sighted people, just without VoiceOver’s clicks.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 




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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

2023-05-23 Thread Andy Baracco
Thank you.

Andy

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a.. To access Siri, long press the lock button.
b.. To get to the App Switcher, start at the bottom of the screen and slide 
up until you feel the third vibration. Two vibrations will get you to the home 
screen and three vibrations will get you the App Switcher.
c.. To stop and restart VoiceOver, use a triple press of the lock button.
   

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Baracco
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 8:51 PM
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  How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

   

  Andy

   

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM

Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone 
than the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

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  From: Jennie Facer 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM

  Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

   

  Hi Andy, 

   

  What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until 
you feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, 
just without VoiceOver’s clicks.

   

  Jenn

  Jenn and Kumi 

  

   

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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

2023-05-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
  *   To access Siri, long press the lock button.
  *   To get to the App Switcher, start at the bottom of the screen and slide 
up until you feel the third vibration. Two vibrations will get you to the home 
screen and three vibrations will get you the App Switcher.
  *   To stop and restart VoiceOver, use a triple press of the lock button.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Robert Doc Wright<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
- Original Message -
From: Jennie Facer<mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

Hi Andy,

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver's clicks.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

2023-05-23 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
The assistive touch button is a very useful feature. How to Enable a Virtual 
Home Button on iPhone or iPad with AssistiveTouch 
<https://osxdaily.com/2018/08/16/enable-virtual-home-button-ios-assistivetouch/>
 

I’ve used it in the past when the home button on one of my older phones was all 
wonky and I didn’t feel like hassling with trying to fix it.

It’s also convenient to have with all the larger sized iPhones. On my XR, I 
have it placed on the right side of the screen (I’m right handed) just above 
the dock of apps. Not necessary, but it’s still nice to have options to do this 
or that gesture 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

 

Andy

 

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Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM

Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

Hi Andy, 

 

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 



 

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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

2023-05-23 Thread Andy Baracco
How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

Andy

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  translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
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From: Jennie Facer 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad


Hi Andy, 


What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you 
feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 



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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

2023-05-23 Thread Robert Doc Wright
translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
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  From: Jennie Facer 
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
  Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad


  Hi Andy,


  What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you 
feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.


  Jenn

  Jenn and Kumi 



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Gestures That Replace Home Button for iPad

2023-05-23 Thread Andy Baracco
My wife just got a new iPad and to her surprise, she realized that it does 
not have a home button.
Does anyone know where I can obtain a list of gestures that perform the 
functions of the home button?


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Re: Haptic for the Home Button

2023-05-05 Thread Mike B.
An update to my issue.
Unfortunately a haptic cannot be used for the Home button to activate Siri, 
according to Apple support.  Also I have a corrupt Sounds and Haptics folder 
in the Settings app.  I'm missing a setting / Button called System Haptic 
that's supposed to be at the very bottom of the list and supposedly this is 
why I can't get a haptic to work for the Home button for anything.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Subject: Haptic for the Home Button


Hi All,

I'm running iOS16.4.1 on an SE2022 iPhone.  I would like to turn the haptic 
vibration on for just the Home button so I can feel it when holding the home
button down for Siri.

When I go into Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Audio / Sounds & 
Haptics there are several options in here, but none of them are titled, Home 
button.  Can someone which of these options are specifically for the Home 
button?

All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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Haptic for the Home Button

2023-05-05 Thread Mike B.
Hi All,

I'm running iOS16.4.1 on an SE2022 iPhone.  I would like to turn the haptic 
vibration on for just the Home button so I can feel it when holding the home
button down for Siri.

When I go into Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Audio / Sounds & 
Haptics there are several options in here, but none of them are titled, Home 
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button?

All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-17 Thread Esther Levegnale
oops I meant facial ID. Sorry about that. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 1:35 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.
> 
>> On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> I’m glad!
>> We are all here to help each other.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>> 
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> 
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
>>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
>>>> have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
>>>> Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
>>>> recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
>>>> the visually impaired.
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck Dean
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
>>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
>>>> to rescan my face
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck;
>>>> 
>>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Anthony
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
>>>> it’s dark in the room.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>>>> perfectly!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> 
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-17 Thread Esther Levegnale
hey, Joshua, I don't know if I responded to your message, but I also use my ID 
to open my phone. I do not use facial recognition. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 1:35 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.
> 
>> On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> I’m glad!
>> We are all here to help each other.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>> 
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> 
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
>>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
>>>> have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
>>>> Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
>>>> recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
>>>> the visually impaired.
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck Dean
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
>>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
>>>> to rescan my face
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck;
>>>> 
>>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Anthony
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
>>>> it’s dark in the room.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>>>> perfectly!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> 
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>&g

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I am not sure why Joshua seems to set against using Face Id which makes it so 
easy to unlock the pho ne. That would be the same as me saying that I decided 
to upgrade from my iPhone 11 to the newly released iPhone SE and to say that I 
won't use Touch Id. Joshua, I can safely say that you will get tired very 
quickly to type in a PIN each time you want to unlock your phone. I always feel 
that way when I have to unlock my iPhone 11 with the PIN when I am wearing a 
face mask. Usually I have my Apple Watch on my wrist and I set u p my iPhone to 
use my Apple Watch for authentication so it is not so bad, but my wife and I 
are currently in the Philippines and we decided not to bring our watches 
because walking around with those on the wrist here may not always be the 
safest thing and I'm always annoyed when I want to unlock the phone and it 
doesn't work, then I remember that I don't have my watch. Back home in British 
Columbia we now don't have to wear masks any more in most situations other than 
flying and so on, but here in the Philippines you have to wear a mask more or 
less everywhere even in public outdoor settings and of course people here do it 
because the government is not as wimpy about enforcing it as they are back 
home. And before somebody who didn't pay attention recommends that I can now 
set up for my phone to unlock with a mask on if I installed the 15.4 update 
which I did yesterday, that only works if you have an iPhone 12 or above so 
with my 11 and my wife's 11 Pro apparently the hardware is not able to support 
this.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: March 12, 2022 12:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
You can also use your Alexa to help find your iPhone as well.  If I
don't know where my iPhone is, I just say Elexa find my phone.  Then,
she will call  my iPhone, and I can hear my phone ring and locate it.

On 3/12/22, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> When I tried it I had blue tooth turned on in my hearing aids for phone
> calls. The beeping sound came from my phone, not in my ears. I’ll continue
> to play with it. I do tend to forget where I laid my phone, so I’ll have
> plenty of chances to see if this is really true.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I
> mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I
> had that turned on.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Paula Jordan
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone
> in order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it
> just rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone.
> It took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I
> could find it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey
> Siri so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button
> to invoke her is also on this setting screen.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
> ________
>
> From: dudleym via VIPhone 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
>
>>Thank you to all who have helped.
>>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was
>>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he
>>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the
>>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>
>>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> on behalf of Carolyn
>>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>>years, totall

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Paula Jordan
When I tried it I had blue tooth turned on in my hearing aids for phone calls. 
The beeping sound came from my phone, not in my ears. I’ll continue to play 
with it. I do tend to forget where I laid my phone, so I’ll have plenty of 
chances to see if this is really true.
God bless!
Paula and the pups


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I 
mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I had 
that turned on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on i

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Carolyn
Paula, I did not have Bluetooth turned on in my hearing aids at the time I 
mislocated my phone. I don't know how I would have gotten direction, had I had 
that turned on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but 

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Paula Jordan
That is awesome.  I haven't been able to call my iphone from another phone in 
order to find it since the phone is connected to my hearing aids, so it just 
rings into my ears.  This is a great solution.  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>   

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread ליאל בן סימון
Yes, it's easey. You need to press and hold the power button.

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> ‫ב-12 במרץ 2022, בשעה 12:45, ‏‏dudleym via VIPhone 
> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
> 
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> <http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If 
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not 
>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so 
>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes 
>>> to another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
>>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
>>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than 
>>> touch ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
>>> on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer 
>>> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for 
>>> scanning the fingerprint?
>>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
>>> a fingerprint, if possible.
>>>   Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Chuck  (mobile)
>>>   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Chuck Dean
Cool Beans! 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:33 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. 
> It took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could 
> find it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey 
> Siri so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to 
> invoke her is also on this setting screen. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: dudleym via VIPhone 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
> invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
> I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> Chuck Dean recently said:-
> 
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> <http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>> dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>> got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>> phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>> I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  on behalf of Carolyn 
>>> <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>> ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>> phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>> better than touch ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>> well on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>>   Thanks,
>>> 
>&

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Carolyn
And, you have to use passcodes at times like after updates. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

And there's no reason you can't use both. Set up face ID and whenever it 
doesn't work, you can always enter your pass code.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Carolyn
Speaking of Hay Siri, the other day I asked on Hay Siri, where is my phone. It 
took a minute or so, but then the phone started making a sound, so I could find 
it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen. 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS 


From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>The following information is important for all members of the 
>> V iPhone list.
>>
>>If you have any questions or concerns about the running of 
>> this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, 
>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting 
>> on the list itself.
>>
>>Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylo

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain
And there's no reason you can't use both. Set up face ID and whenever it 
doesn't work, you can always enter your pass code.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>&g

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Alan Lemly
You can also go into Settings, Siri and search and turn on Listen for hey Siri 
so you can invoke her by voice. The switch to turn on the side button to invoke 
her is also on this setting screen.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: dudleym via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 4:31:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini
myself but am confused as how to invoke siri. I
think I read somewhere that the power button can
be used, but I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to
>>my pastor, who has an Android phone. I never
>>saw where it was delivered, and Sent was
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd
>>have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an
>>attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people
>>can. I am well up in my years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on
>>your new iPhone. Touch ID is not available on
>>iPhone swithout home buttons and having used
>>phones with both types of biometric
>>identification, face ID works much better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope
>>FlickType Classic is working well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about
>> using apple pay on a newer iPhone without a
>> tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face
>> recognition but I prefer to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>The following information is important
>> for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>
>>If you have any questions or concerns
>> about the running of this list, or if you feel
>> that a member's post is inappropriate, please
>> contact the owners or moderators directly
>> rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>>Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark
>> Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn
>> - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Carolyn
I really think that too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Car

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread chrisjudge1967
Hi. Yes, hold the side button to speak to siri.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: dudleym via VIPhone  
Sent: March 12, 2022 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini myself but am confused as how to 
invoke siri. I think I read somewhere that the power button can be used, but 
I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.

Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-

>Thank you to all who have helped.
>I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
><http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
><http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>>On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an 
>>Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
>>dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he 
>>got it. I do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
>>phone, but was so uncertain about the message.
>>I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>>Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> on behalf of Carolyn 
>><4carol...@windstream.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
>>years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works much 
>>better than touch ID.
>>Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
>>well on it.
>>
>>Alan Lemly
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place 
>> for scanning the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Trea Abma
Hi,

I’ve used my iPhone 11 for two years now, but  yesterday I bought the new SE. 
Face ID works for  me, but I like Touch ID better.

Trea 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 12 mrt. 2022 om 07:35 heeft Joshua Hendrickson  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.
> 
> On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> I’m glad!
>> We are all here to help each other.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
>>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
>>>> have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
>>>> Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
>>>> recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
>>>> the visually impaired.
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck Dean
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
>>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
>>>> to rescan my face
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>> Chuck;
>>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>> Anthony
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
>>>> it’s dark in the room.
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> Alan
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>>>> perfectly!
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>>>> If
>>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do
>>>> not
>>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes
>>>> to
>>>> another iPhone?
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:vipho

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread dudleym via VIPhone
Hi, I'm looking at getting an iphone13 mini 
myself but am confused as how to invoke siri. I 
think I read somewhere that the power button can 
be used, but I'm not sure. can anyone throw any light on this please.


Martin


Chuck Dean recently said:-


Thank you to all who have helped.
I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

<http://www.cadean.com/>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>Our 1961 Vespa 400


On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to 
my pastor, who has an Android phone. I never 
saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
dimmed. If he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd 
have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the 
phone, but was so uncertain about the message. 
I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 on behalf of Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people 
can. I am well up in my years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on 
your new iPhone. Touch ID is not available on 
iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
phones with both types of biometric 
identification, face ID works much better than touch ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope 
FlickType Classic is working well on it.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:



   
   New iPhone without tactile home button.
   Hello everyone, I am wondering about 
using apple pay on a newer iPhone without a 
tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint?
   I understand these iPhone's have face 
recognition but I prefer to use a fingerprint, if possible.

   Thanks,


   Chuck  (mobile)
   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>


   Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>



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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Dennis Long
I agree.  I have also used it in a totally dark room.  It worked just fine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Chuck;

 

That is absolutely not true.

I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

 

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello,

No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.

I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

 

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed

mine.

 

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck

Dean

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

 

 

Thank you to all who have helped.

 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!

 

 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

 

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 

 

 

 

<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

 

 

 

 

 

<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400

 

 

 

 

 

On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net

<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

 

Thanks.

 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an

Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If

he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not

have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so

uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to

another iPhone?

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of

Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net%20%3cmailto:4carol...@windstream.net> 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my

years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Hi Chuck,

 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is

not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with

both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch

ID.

Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well

on it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

 

  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

 

  

  New iPhone without tactile home button.

  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer

iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning

the fingerprint?

  I understand these iPhone's have fac

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-12 Thread Dennis Long
You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has 
>>> an Android phone. I never saw w

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been
>> able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should
>>> have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with
>>> Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID
>>> recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for
>>> the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need
>>> to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when
>>> it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>> mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Chuck
>>> Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>>> If
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do
>>> not
>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it onl

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Anthony Vece
I’m glad!
We are all here to help each other.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Alan, and every one else, 
> Yes, the attention switch is off. 
> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been 
> able to open the iPhone in the dark! 
> Thanks to every one for their advice, 
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Chuck,
>>  
>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to require 
>> attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should have been 
>> off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with Voiceover 
>> running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID recognition in 
>> the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for the visually 
>> impaired.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
>> Dean
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
>> three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to 
>> rescan my face
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck;
>>  
>> That is absolutely not true.
>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>  
>> Anthony
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
>> dark in the room.
>>  
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
>> 
>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>> 
>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck,
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>> mine.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Alan
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
>> Dean
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>  
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>  
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
>> another iPhone?
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>  
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ___

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Chuck Dean
Hello Alan, and every one else, 
Yes, the attention switch is off. 
The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been able 
to open the iPhone in the dark! 
Thanks to every one for their advice, 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to require 
> attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should have been 
> off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with Voiceover 
> running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID recognition in the 
> dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Dean
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
> three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to rescan 
> my face
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Chuck;
>  
> That is absolutely not true.
> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
> dark in the room.
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
> 
> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
>  
>  
> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
> mine.
>  
>  
>  
> Alan
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
> Dean
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
>  
>  
> Thank you to all who have helped.
>  
> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>  
>  
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
>  
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
> another iPhone?
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
&g

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Alan Lemly
Chuck,

 

Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to require 
attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should have been off 
by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with Voiceover running. 
I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID recognition in the dark but 
it certainly makes face ID much easier for the visually impaired.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to rescan 
my face

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Chuck;

 

That is absolutely not true.

I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

 

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello,

No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.

I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

 

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed

mine.

 

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck

Dean

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

 

 

Thank you to all who have helped.

 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!

 

 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

 

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 

 

 

 

<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

 

 

 

 

 

<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400

 

 

 

 

 

On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net

<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

 

Thanks.

 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an

Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If

he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not

have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so

uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to

another iPhone?

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of

Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net%20%3cmailto:4carol...@windstream.net> 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my

years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New iPhon

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Carolyn
Sieghard, if I leave an app open, when I turn my phone back on, I'm there, like 
Weather or Phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

 

You might want to ask somebody who knows how to use Face Id to help you for a 
bit until you get the hang of it.

Here is what I do:

1.  I wake up my phone by tapping the screen, but if you have tap to wake 
turned off which some people prefer then just press the side button
2.  I touch near the bottom of the screen in the middle until I hear the 
little two-tone and then as I look at the phone I swipe up
3.  Face Id recognizes my face and I am instantly placed on the home screen

 

I am actually trying to remember how I can unlock my phone with Face Id and not 
be put on the home screen, but so far I haven’t found a way to do this. Where 
exactly do you end up after Face Id recognizes your phone and unlocks it?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: March 11, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

I guess I'll have to keep trying. 

Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
the iPhone would go directly to the home screen. 

With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the bottom 
to go to the home screen. 

Is there any way to go directly to the home screen? 

Thanks, 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 





Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 





On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me 
in the dark too.

Sent from my iPhone





On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.

I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not 
work when it’s dark in the room.

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 





Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 





On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

 

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini 
as much as I’ve enjoyed

mine.

 

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Chuck

Dean

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

        Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home 
button.

 

 

 

Thank you to all who have helped.

 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it 
is up and running perfectly!

 

 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

 

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 

 

 

 


RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Carolyn
With your iPhone 8, you already pushed the button for the Home Screen, when you 
entered your fingerprint; that is not the case with your face. It is so natural 
now for me to slide my finger that I went to my phone to check to see if it was 
necessary, and it seems that it must be. I never think about it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I guess I'll have to keep trying. 
Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
the iPhone would go directly to the home screen. 
With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the bottom 
to go to the home screen. 
Is there any way to go directly to the home screen? 
Thanks, 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 


On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:



 
Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in 
the dark too.


Sent from my iPhone


On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean  
wrote:



 
Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not 
work when it’s dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
 wrote:



Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Chuck,











That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini 
as much as I’ve enjoyed


mine.











Alan











From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Chuck


Dean


Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home 
button.











Thank you to all who have helped.





I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it 
is up and running perfectly!











Chuck  (mobile)





Pleez x cuze enny tie

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Carolyn
Oh man. Mine is an 11, and so far, works in the dark. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I have a 12 and I am having issues with this when its dark 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Anthony 
Vece 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:46:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
ab...@michigan.gov



Chuck; 

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony


Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:



 
Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when 
it’s dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cadean.com%2F=04%7C01%7CLauryS%40michigan.gov%7C9935d506c2284288dd5508da03765196%7Cd5fb7087377742ad966a892ef47225d1%7C0%7C0%7C637826104879756799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=2%2BYi6wolBqc83kxBIPWsI%2F6XcujeEfxE2G40%2B1qvzdk%3D=0>
 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 
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On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
 wrote:



Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Chuck,











That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much 
as I’ve enjoyed


mine.











Alan











From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Chuck


Dean


Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.











Thank you to all who have helped.





I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and 
running perfectly!











Chuck  (mobile)





Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

















<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

















<http://cadean.com/Vespa.htm

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Carolyn
Mine works in a dark room in the middle of the night. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
wrote:



Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Chuck,











That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
enjoyed


mine.











Alan











From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Chuck


Dean


Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.











Thank you to all who have helped.





I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
perfectly!











Chuck  (mobile)





Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

















<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

















<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400

















On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net


<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:





Thanks.





Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who 
has an


Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was 
dimmed. If


he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got 
it. I do not


have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, 
but was so


uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, 
when it goes to


another iPhone?





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>


[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone


Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>


    Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.





Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might 
think.





Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>








From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>


mailto:viphone@googlegroups.co

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Chuck Dean
Hello,
I have no problems getting into the phone, when it’s daylight, it just seems 
like at night it doesn’t work, and I have to enter the passcode every time.
When I tap on my screen, or hit the side button, I hear a sound kind of like 
the sound of the screen opening, and it goes to my lock screen, then I need to 
slide up from the bottom until I hear two tones, and then it unlocks the home 
screen.
I suppose this is no worse than just pressing the home button, but it takes two 
hands for me to do this, with a home button I could use one. 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Chuck,
>  
> You might want to ask somebody who knows how to use Face Id to help you for a 
> bit until you get the hang of it.
> Here is what I do:
> I wake up my phone by tapping the screen, but if you have tap to wake turned 
> off which some people prefer then just press the side button
> I touch near the bottom of the screen in the middle until I hear the little 
> two-tone and then as I look at the phone I swipe up
> Face Id recognizes my face and I am instantly placed on the home screen
>  
> I am actually trying to remember how I can unlock my phone with Face Id and 
> not be put on the home screen, but so far I haven’t found a way to do this. 
> Where exactly do you end up after Face Id recognizes your phone and unlocks 
> it?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Dean
> Sent: March 11, 2022 8:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> I guess I'll have to keep trying. 
> Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
> the iPhone would go directly to the home screen. 
> With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the 
> bottom to go to the home screen. 
> Is there any way to go directly to the home screen? 
> Thanks, 
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
>  Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in the 
> dark too.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
> dark in the room.
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
> 
> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
>  
>  
> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
> mine.
>  
>  
>  
> Alan
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
> Dean
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
>  
>  
> Thank you to all who have helped.
>  
> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>  
>  
>  
> Chuck  (mobile)
>  
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
> another iPhone?
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ___

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Chuck,

You might want to ask somebody who knows how to use Face Id to help you for a 
bit until you get the hang of it.
Here is what I do:

  1.  I wake up my phone by tapping the screen, but if you have tap to wake 
turned off which some people prefer then just press the side button
  2.  I touch near the bottom of the screen in the middle until I hear the 
little two-tone and then as I look at the phone I swipe up
  3.  Face Id recognizes my face and I am instantly placed on the home screen

I am actually trying to remember how I can unlock my phone with Face Id and not 
be put on the home screen, but so far I haven’t found a way to do this. Where 
exactly do you end up after Face Id recognizes your phone and unlocks it?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: March 11, 2022 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

I guess I'll have to keep trying.
Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
the iPhone would go directly to the home screen.
With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the bottom 
to go to the home screen.
Is there any way to go directly to the home screen?
Thanks,

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe<http://www.cadean.com/>


Our 1961 Vespa 400<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>


On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone 
mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
 Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in the 
dark too.
Sent from my iPhone


On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean 
mailto:cadean...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe<http://www.cadean.com/>


Our 1961 Vespa 400<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Chuck,



That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
mine.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Chuck
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.



Thank you to all who have helped.

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!



Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
another iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 > on behalf of
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net%20%3cmailto:4carol...@windstream.net>>
 >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%20%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphon

RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Anthony is correct, if your Face Id is set up correctly and works well then it 
can be absolutely and utterly pitch black without even a shred of any light, 
e.g. you could be in a cave 100 feet underground with no artificial light and 
it would work. To set up Face Id normal light maybe not a bad idea although it 
is not necessary to do it outdoors and with sunlight as some suggest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: March 11, 2022 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Chuck;

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony
Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe<http://www.cadean.com/>


Our 1961 Vespa 400<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>


On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Chuck,



That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
mine.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.



Thank you to all who have helped.

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!



Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
another iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
on it.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



  
  New iPhone without tactile home button.
  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
the fingerprint?
  I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
a fingerprint, if possible.
  Thanks,


  Chuck  (mobile)
  Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>


  Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>



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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Chuck Dean
I guess I'll have to keep trying. 
Another thing that bothers me is when I would open my iPhone 8 with touch ID 
the iPhone would go directly to the home screen. 
With my iPhone 13 once it recognise my face I have to slide up from the bottom 
to go to the home screen. 
Is there any way to go directly to the home screen? 
Thanks, 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
>  Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in the 
> dark too.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
>> dark in the room.
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> 
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes 
>>>> to
>>>> another iPhone?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>> 
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Alex Stone
Chuck, I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but it works for me in the dark 
too.

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Mar 2022, at 3:12 pm, Chuck Dean  wrote:


Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe<http://www.cadean.com/>

Our 1961 Vespa 400<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>

On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
Chuck,



That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
mine.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.



Thank you to all who have helped.

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!



Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
another iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
on it.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



  
  New iPhone without tactile home button.
  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
the fingerprint?
  I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
a fingerprint, if possible.
  Thanks,


  Chuck  (mobile)
  Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>


  Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>



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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
I have a 12 and I am having issues with this when its dark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Anthony 
Vece 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:46:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.


CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
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Chuck;

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:


Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 
Coupe<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cadean.com%2F=04%7C01%7CLauryS%40michigan.gov%7C9935d506c2284288dd5508da03765196%7Cd5fb7087377742ad966a892ef47225d1%7C0%7C0%7C637826104879756799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=2%2BYi6wolBqc83kxBIPWsI%2F6XcujeEfxE2G40%2B1qvzdk%3D=0>

Our 1961 Vespa 
400<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcadean.com%2FVespa.html=04%7C01%7CLauryS%40michigan.gov%7C9935d506c2284288dd5508da03765196%7Cd5fb7087377742ad966a892ef47225d1%7C0%7C0%7C637826104879756799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=SEUXCYEK718l7xqwUZ9TPyLT1vNJGEiSlp0LgArRXb8%3D=0>

On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:

Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
Chuck,



That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
mine.



Alan



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.



Thank you to all who have helped.

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!



Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





<http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





<http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400





On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks.

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
another iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
on it.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



  
  New iPhone without tactile home button.
  Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
the fingerprint?
  I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
a fingerprint, if possible.
  Thanks,


  Chuck  (mobile)
  Pleez x cuze enny t

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Chuck Dean
Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to rescan 
my face

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Chuck;
> 
> That is absolutely not true.
> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
>> dark in the room.
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>>> mine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> Dean
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>> 
>>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>> 
>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes 
>>>> to
>>>> another iPhone?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>> 
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>> 
>>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>&g

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Anthony Vece
Chuck;

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
> dark in the room.
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>> 
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>> mine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
>>> Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>> 
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> 
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
>>> another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
>>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
>>> ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
>>> on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean >> <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wr

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Chuck Dean
Hello,
No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
dark in the room.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
> 
>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>> mine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
>> Dean
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>> 
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> 
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
>> another iPhone?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>> 
>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>> 
>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>> 
>> Hi Chuck,
>> 
>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
>> ID.
>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
>> on it.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean > <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
>> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
>> the fingerprint?
>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
>> a fingerprint, if possible.
>>   Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>>   Chuck  (mobile)
>>   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>>   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>> 
>> 
>>   Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-11 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
That issue should be fixed in the next IOS update.  I think that update is 15.4.

On 3/11/22, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>
> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>> mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Chuck
>> Dean
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running
>> perfectly!
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>> If
>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes
>> to
>> another iPhone?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> 
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf
>> of
>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>> Hi Chuck,
>>
>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID
>> is
>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than
>> touch
>> ID.
>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working
>> well
>> on it.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean > <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
>> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for
>> scanning
>> the fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to
>> use
>> a fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
>>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>
>>
>>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>The following information is important for all members of the V
>> iPhone list.
>>
>>  

Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-10 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?

On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
> mine.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
> Dean
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
>
>
> Thank you to all who have helped.
>
> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>
>
>
> Chuck  (mobile)
>
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>
>
>
>
>  <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
>
>
>
>
>  <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
> another iPhone?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
> ID.
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
> on it.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
> the fingerprint?
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
> a fingerprint, if possible.
>Thanks,
>
>
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
>
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-10 Thread Alan Lemly
Chuck,

 

That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed mine.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Thank you to all who have helped. 

I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly! 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.





 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe





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On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Thanks. 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain about 
the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean mailto:cadean...@gmail.com> > wrote:



   
   New iPhone without tactile home button. 
   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint? 
   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
   Thanks, 


   Chuck  (mobile)
   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


   Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 



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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-10 Thread Carolyn
Thanks for telling me that, wish everyone had one, Joseph. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Yes you would be correct it only says delivered whenever it goes to another 
iPhone.

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
> phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
> responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
> attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain 
> about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another 
> iPhone? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
> totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Hi Chuck, 
> 
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button. 
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
> a fingerprint, if possible. 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 
> 
> 
>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 
> 
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-10 Thread Chuck Dean
Thank you to all who have helped. 
I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly! 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
> phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
> responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
> attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain 
> about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another 
> iPhone? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
> totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Hi Chuck, 
> 
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button. 
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
> a fingerprint, if possible. 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 
> 
> 
>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 
> 
> 
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-10 Thread joseph hudson
Yes you would be correct it only says delivered whenever it goes to another 
iPhone.

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
> phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
> responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
> attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain 
> about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another 
> iPhone? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> 
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
> totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Hi Chuck, 
> 
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button. 
>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use 
> a fingerprint, if possible. 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> 
>Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 
> 
> 
>Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 
> 
> 
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-10 Thread Carolyn
Thanks. 

Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an Android 
phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If he hadn't 
responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not have an 
attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so uncertain about 
the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to another iPhone? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button. 
 
If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:




New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 


Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> 



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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-10 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
The new SE phone does sound interesting.

On 3/10/22, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I use facial id all the time. It works fine.
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: March 9, 2022 7:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>
> Hi Chuck,
>
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
> ID.
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
> on it.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>   
>   
>
>   
>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the
> fingerprint?
>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a
> fingerprint, if possible.
>   Thanks,
>
>
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-10 Thread chrisjudge1967
I use facial id all the time. It works fine.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: March 9, 2022 7:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:




New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 


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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread Alan Lemly
I love my iPhone 13 Mini. I carry mine around in my front jeans pocket and its 
smaller size makes that very convenient.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Dean
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Cool Beans!

I am looking at the iPhone 13 mini. I like the smaller size, especially since I 
don’t do much viewing on my iPhone with my old tired eyes. 

 

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On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:04 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Chuck,

 

Your memory is much better than mine. FlickType Classic is working marvelously 
on my iPhone 13 Mini or you’d never be reading posts from me with Sent from my 
iPhone or Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS under my signature.

 

All the best with your new iPhone.

 

Alan

 

From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:25 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Hi Alan, 
If I remember correctly, you have a new iPhone 13 mini. 
How do you like it? 
Did FlickType classic load and work ok on the new iPhone? 
Thanks, 
Chuck

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi Chuck, 

 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 

Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone






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New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone without 
a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 

 <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

 

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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
My next iPhone won't be a mini, but a pro model of some kind.  I'll
probably wait until the 15 comes out next year.  This is because
first, I've only had my iPhone 8 for around 3 years this June.  Next,
it will give me more time to save up the money to get a new iPhone.
Also, I want a phone with as much storage space as possible and the
best battery life.  The 13 pro has better battery life then the mini.
The 13 pro can get up to 22 hours of playtime, and the iPhone 8 that I
have can only get at most 13 hours of battery life.  Also, if you know
braille, then I highly recommend the bluetooth keyboard, the Hable
One.  It is a small perkins style keyboard and is totally awesome!
 I can do so much with it, including responding to and creating
emails.

On 3/9/22, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> Hello Carolyn,
> Thanks for that, I am also up in my ears, but I thought that the touch ID
> would be more secure than the face ID, but people have told me that my
> assumption was not true. I’m thinking about getting the new iPhone 13 mini.
> I like the small size!
>
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>
>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:26 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>
>> Hi Chuck,
>>
>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than
>> touch ID.
>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working
>> well on it.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone
>> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the
>> fingerprint?
>>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a
>> fingerprint, if possible.
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Chuck  (mobile)
>>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>>
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>>
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2022-03-09 Thread Chuck Dean
Hello Carolyn,
Thanks for that, I am also up in my ears, but I thought that the touch ID would 
be more secure than the face ID, but people have told me that my assumption was 
not true. I’m thinking about getting the new iPhone 13 mini. I like the small 
size!

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:26 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my 
> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
> 
> Hi Chuck, 
> 
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>New iPhone without tactile home button.
>    Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
>I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Chuck  (mobile)
>Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread Alex Stone
Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.

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Hi Chuck,

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID.
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:




New iPhone without tactile home button.
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint?
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible.
Thanks,


Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


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2022-03-09 Thread Carolyn
If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my years, 
totally blind, and not especially tech savvy. 

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Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:




New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 


Chuck  (mobile)
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Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/> 


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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread Chuck Dean
Cool Beans!
I am looking at the iPhone 13 mini. I like the smaller size, especially since I 
don’t do much viewing on my iPhone with my old tired eyes. 


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> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:04 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> Your memory is much better than mine. FlickType Classic is working 
> marvelously on my iPhone 13 Mini or you’d never be reading posts from me with 
> Sent from my iPhone or Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS under my 
> signature.
>  
> All the best with your new iPhone.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:25 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>  
> Hi Alan, 
> If I remember correctly, you have a new iPhone 13 mini. 
> How do you like it? 
> Did FlickType classic load and work ok on the new iPhone? 
> Thanks, 
> Chuck
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Lemly wrote:
> Hi Chuck, 
>  
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch 
> ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well 
> on it. 
>  
> Alan Lemly 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
> I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
> Thanks,
>  
> 
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RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread Alan Lemly
Chuck,

 

Your memory is much better than mine. FlickType Classic is working marvelously 
on my iPhone 13 Mini or you’d never be reading posts from me with Sent from my 
iPhone or Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS under my signature.

 

All the best with your new iPhone.

 

Alan

 

From: 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 4:25 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

 

Hi Alan, 
If I remember correctly, you have a new iPhone 13 mini. 
How do you like it? 
Did FlickType classic load and work ok on the new iPhone? 
Thanks, 
Chuck

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi Chuck, 

 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 

Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





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New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone without 
a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks, 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone
Hi Alan, 
If I remember correctly, you have a new iPhone 13 mini. 
How do you like it? 
Did FlickType classic load and work ok on the new iPhone? 
Thanks, 
Chuck
On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Lemly wrote:

> Hi Chuck, 
>
> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is 
> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with 
> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than 
> touch ID. 
> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working 
> well on it. 
>
> Alan Lemly 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>
> 
>
> New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
> I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
> Thanks, 
>
>
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Chuck, 

I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is not 
available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with both 
types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch ID. 
Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well on 
it. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
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> 
> New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
> I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Chuck,
No. There is no place on a face ID phone to put your finger do use touch ID. 
Touch ID is not on any iPhone that has Face ID. So the only phone that you can 
use that is currently produced is the latest iPhone SE which will be coming out 
shortly. That was announced yesterday. The older iPhone SE two can also be 
used, but it has been discontinued by Apple. You might find it in stores. 
Otherwise, no deal. I’ve use my 10 r with Face ID and Apple Pay without a 
problem. When iOS 15. Four comes out of beta next week, you will be able to use 
Apple Pay and Face ID even if you’re wearing a mask.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> New iPhone without tactile home button. 
> Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone 
> without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the 
> fingerprint? 
> I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
> fingerprint, if possible. 
> Thanks,
> 
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New iPhone without tactile home button.

2022-03-09 Thread Chuck Dean
New iPhone without tactile home button. 
Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer iPhone without 
a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning the fingerprint? 
I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use a 
fingerprint, if possible. 
Thanks,


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Re: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2022-01-01 Thread Lynn Schneider
I am resending this message from Richard because it saved my bacon while I was 
trying to learn the gestures without the home button  on my new iPhone 13 Pro. 
Since many of us may have gotten new phones without the old faithful home 
button over the holidays, thought I would re-post. Thanks Richard.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web 
> site.
> But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.
> 
> For devices without a home button:
> Side button replacing Home button commands
> *Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter your 
> passcode
> *Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
> *Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button and 
> Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
> too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
>  *Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
> *Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
> volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds 
> or until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
> *Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
> icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button. 
>  Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
> *Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 
> 
> New Gestures replacing function of the Home button
> Starting at the bottom of the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel 
> three haptic vibrations referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" 
> when pressing the Home button). Each of these three clicks will activate a 
> function. Note: The first click alerts you that you are in the feature.
> *Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
> finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> *Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
> finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> *Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
> the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
> down.
> 
> Notification and Control Center
> 
> Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
> *Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
> down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> *Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
> finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> 
> Other settings 
> Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
> If you find that your phone is constantly trying to "wake" up or unlock, and 
> perhaps the battery is not giving you the time you thought it should, try 
> turning that feature off.  If you use VoiceOver, and it is constantly saying 
> the time whenever you move the iPhone, you probably have raise to wake on and 
> each time the phone moves, it is trying to wake up.  
> People who carry their phone in a bag or a purse may find it is constantly 
> waking up from the movement of the bag/purse.
> 
> There is also a feature called Tap to Wake, under Settings, Accessibility, 
> Touch, that allows you to wake up the phone by tapping in the middle of the 
> screen with one finger.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
> gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?
> 
> Hi all 
> 
> Apologies for this, as I'm sure many of you will probably think I'm seriously 
> behind the times. Basically, I'm getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
> with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn't have a 
> physical home button. 
> 
> I've never encountered this before, as I've always gone out of my way to make 
> sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn't my 
> choice, and I'm actually very nervous about getting it. 
> 
> So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
> instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing

RE: Home button [was "RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions"]

2021-12-15 Thread Carolyn
I most definitely agree with that, Christopher. 

I am totally blind and was 82, when I got my phone without a home button, had 
not the first problem at all. I studied what Rita Howels posted on another 
list, just read over and over it, and it penetrated my brain. My husband was 
astonished. I really would not want another phone with a home button now. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Home button [was "RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions"]

For those who don't have any experience with an iPhone that doesn't have a home 
button, and who may be skeptical about getting an iPhone without a home button, 
I'd just like to share my experience from earlier today. I was in the waiting 
room while my wife was having a medical procedure done, and I was constantly 
going back and forth between my person iPhone 11 and my employer's iPhone 7, 
and I realized that all things being equal, I definitely prefer a phone without 
a home button. Note that having a home button wouldn't be a deal breaker with 
me, I just found it so much easier finding things in my dock or up in the 
status bar without having to worry about that space you lose with the home 
button. Plus I think it makes braille screen input a lot easier as well. If 
people have experience with both, and prefer a phone with a home button, then 
that's great, but if you're skeptical about getting a phone without a home 
button then I'd really suggest you give it a go before deciding that you prefer 
a phone with a home button. That's just my $0.02.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi,

The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7, The 12 range and the 13 range don't 
have home buttons but you can set the power button to switch voiceover off / on,

But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 2020 
which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the iPHone 
7 And work as you would know your current phone does.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-20 Thread chrisjudge1967
Hi.

Have you considered Hadley? 
They offer some excellent workshops on using voiceover among many other things.
www.hadley.edu

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide 

Re: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-19 Thread regina alvarado
Everything is the same on the phone that has no home button. The only thing 
that’s changed is that you use the side button on the right hand side to turn 
on voice over if it doesn’t come up when you begin to set it up. All the 
gestures are exactly the same except the ones Richard has so kindly pointed 
out. They iOS is the same. VoiceOver is the same. the only difference is that 
you swipe up from the bottom with the two little blips to go to home. If you 
hear three blips you are in the switcher if you go from the top you will find 
the notification Center and the control center I believe. I have not had much 
luck with going from the top so I set another gesture for that purpose. Going 
from the bottom and swiping up can be very uncomfortable at first so be very 
patient with yourself. Just keep practicing and it will become so second nature 
that you’ll be surprised you ever thought you needed a home button.  Even when 
I had the se I use the home button but I kept trying to use the swipe up. Now I 
have a 12 and it was like coming home. Believe me it is not as big a deal as 
you think it is.  It’s all the same except that you use the side button and the 
up-and-down button. Mostly you use the side button to speak with Siri and to 
turn on voice over if you have to . Remember also that you can ask Siri to turn 
on VoiceOver once you have the phone set up.  You will be fine.  It looks 
daunting but it’s not. 

Reggie Alvarado 

On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 I misheard your previous message. I thought it said flick right.
O well.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 
  




website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> No change, you always had to flick left if focus was not on the Power Off 
> button.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 19, 2021 7:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
> gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?
> 
> Thanks Sieghard,
> Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a 
> home button and obviously needed editing.
> I discovered two things just now though.
> 
> When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
> button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins 
> the auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, 
> I have to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.
> 
> This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other 
> icons on that screen.
> 
> I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
> Shut down method.
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C0f32ba64546a46d405fa08d9931d194f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637702575465346353%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=XYPOVHtcluPJsoqOTIAl5ya031n82AEPXpXag6ih%2Fpk%3Dreserved=0
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
> gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:
> 
> *Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
> icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button. 
>  Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
> 
> On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which 
> is also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you 
> press and hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until 
> the power off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button 
> so make sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get 
> to "Power Off" before you double tap.
> 
> I find telling 
> SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
> of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown 
> button, but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least f

Re: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
I misheard your previous message. I thought it said flick right.
O well.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

No change, you always had to flick left if focus was not on the Power Off 
button.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter your 
passcode
*Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button
*Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button and 
Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button too 
long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
 *Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button
*Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the volume 
down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or until 
the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you

RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
No change, you always had to flick left if focus was not on the Power Off 
button.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the Con

RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks Sieghard,
Those were written based on bad information before I got a phone without a home 
button and obviously needed editing.
I discovered two things just now though.

When I press and hold the power and volume down buttons, the emergency call 
button comes up, with Cancel in focus, and if I hold it too long, it begins the 
auto call to 911/emergency contacts.  But, to get to the power off icon, I have 
to flick left, not right on my 13 pro.

This may be a change as of iOS 15?  The medical ID and location are other icons 
on that screen.

I'm going to rewrite my insructions and stress the safer Settings, General, 
Shut down method.


Thanks again,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.

Other settings
Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
If you find that your

RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.

Other settings
Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
If you find that your phone is constantly trying to "wake" up or unlock, and 
perhaps the battery is not giving you the time you thought it should, try 
turning that feature off.  If you use VoiceOver, and it is constantly saying 
the time whenever you move the iPhone, you probably have raise to wake on and 
each time the phone moves, it is trying to wake up.  
People who carry their phone in a bag or a purse may find it is constantly 
waking up from the movement of the bag/purse.

There is also a feature called Tap to Wake, under Settings, Accessibility, 
Touch, that allows you to wake up the phone by tapping in the middle of the 
screen with one finger.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures 
I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I'm sure man

RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-18 Thread Carolyn
Eleanor, press the Power Button three times to get VoiceOver to come on. 

I never missed the Home Button at all ever. I[m probably old enough to be your 
grandmother, so my bet is that you'll do fine with the phone. 

Richard's instructions will show you exactly how. Believe me when I tell you, 
it just sounds frustrating, but it is not, and it does work. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures 
I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I’m sure many of you will probably think I’m seriously 
behind the times. Basically, I’m getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn’t have a 
physical home button. 

I’ve never encountered this before, as I’ve always gone out of my way to make 
sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn’t my 
choice, and I’m actually very nervous about getting it. 

So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing to operate this 
buttonless phone?? Any help really really would be very much appreciated. For 
example, when setting up the phone in the very first place how on earth do I 
get VO to come on?? (Normally I’d just tripple tap the home button, and it’s 
sorted … but with this I’ve no idea). How do I go about switching apps with no 
button? How do I go about turning VO on/off with no button if I need to? The 
list is endless. 

So sorry If I’m coming across as a total idiot, but this phone doesn’t belong 
to me and I’m really really scared of making a total mess of it when I get it. 
So any help/lists of gestures/explanations of how to do anything, no matter how 
basic, really would be most gratefully received and very much appreciated. 

Thanks so much everyone. 

Eleanor 

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RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-18 Thread Richard Turner
This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button
Starting at the bottom of the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel 
three haptic vibrations referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" 
when pressing the Home button). Each of these three clicks will activate a 
function. Note: The first click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.

Other settings 
Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
If you find that your phone is constantly trying to "wake" up or unlock, and 
perhaps the battery is not giving you the time you thought it should, try 
turning that feature off.  If you use VoiceOver, and it is constantly saying 
the time whenever you move the iPhone, you probably have raise to wake on and 
each time the phone moves, it is trying to wake up.  
People who carry their phone in a bag or a purse may find it is constantly 
waking up from the movement of the bag/purse.

There is also a feature called Tap to Wake, under Settings, Accessibility, 
Touch, that allows you to wake up the phone by tapping in the middle of the 
screen with one finger.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures 
I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I'm sure many of you will probably think I'm seriously 
behind the times. Basically, I'm getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn't have a 
physical home button. 

I've never encountered this before, as I've always gone out of my way to make 
sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn't my 
choice, and I'm actually very nervous about getting it. 

So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing to operate this 
buttonless phone?? Any help really really would be very much appreciated. For 
example, when setting up the phone in the very first place how on earth do I 
get VO to come on?? (Normally I'd just tripple tap the home button, and it's 
sorted ... but with this I've no idea). How do I go about switching apps with 
no button? How do I go about turning VO on/off with no button if I need to? The 
list is endless. 

So sorry If I'm coming across as a total idiot, but this phone doesn't belong 
to me and I'm really really scared of making a total mess of it when I get it. 
So any help/lists of gestures/explanations of how to do anything, no matter how 
basic, really would be most gratefully received and very much appreciated. 

Thanks so much everyone. 

Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-18 Thread 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I’m sure many of you will probably think I’m seriously 
behind the times. Basically, I’m getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn’t have a 
physical home button. 

I’ve never encountered this before, as I’ve always gone out of my way to make 
sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn’t my 
choice, and I’m actually very nervous about getting it. 

So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing to operate this 
buttonless phone?? Any help really really would be very much appreciated. For 
example, when setting up the phone in the very first place how on earth do I 
get VO to come on?? (Normally I’d just tripple tap the home button, and it’s 
sorted … but with this I’ve no idea). How do I go about switching apps with no 
button? How do I go about turning VO on/off with no button if I need to? The 
list is endless. 

So sorry If I’m coming across as a total idiot, but this phone doesn’t belong 
to me and I’m really really scared of making a total mess of it when I get it. 
So any help/lists of gestures/explanations of how to do anything, no matter how 
basic, really would be most gratefully received and very much appreciated. 

Thanks so much everyone. 

Eleanor 

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RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
All iPhones have both front and rear cameras and I always say the matter of 
storage is entirely a personal choice, you know what  you have now and whether 
are running low on space or not. If you are like me and you don't download 
music to your phone or have maybe hundreds or, as I hear is the case with some 
people, have thousands of apps, there may be little reason to spend more just 
to have more storage. I have always had 64 Gb phones because I only use about 
half of that right now on my iPhone 11 and that has about 500 pictures and 50 
or 60 short videos on it and I actually have to spend some time and clean that 
up because I assume most of those could go. I have I think 78 apps and I 
download Audible books usually anywhere from 2 to 4 or 5 at a time, I don't see 
a point why I should have all of my almost 900 Audible books downloaded to my 
phone since I can download any of them any time if I feel like listening to it 
again. If I listen to music on my phone which is rare I stream it via my Apple 
Music subscription. I prefer to listen to music at home either on my Sonos 
system or, if I am in the mood and have time, on my old high-end stereo system 
downstairs where it is properly set up in its own room. I have a feeling when 
the next series of iPhones come out this fall that 128 Gb maybe the starting 
point and that 64 Gb will disappear or maybe it will still be available on 
whatever older models are kept like the SE 2020 or iPhone 11, but I wouldn't 
spend $100 more for storage I know I won't ever use. Only you yourself knows if 
you need it or not.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 11:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

It is a good phone.  I would get the 256 gig phone.  That is what I have.  I 
would rather have to much storage then not enough.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Here is some info about the iPHone SE 2020, or as Apple calls it the SE 2nd 
Generation.

It came out after the iPHone 11, so it has the same chip as the 11 and the same 
camera processing, though with only one camera, which is all you need for blind 
applications like OCR, Object recognition and good basic picture taking.

I use my iPhone SE 2ND Gen a lot and I sometimes can go about 10 hours between 
charges.
I would say 8 hours is solid.
It blows the iPhone 8 out of the water for performance.  Not to mention it has 
the same water resistance as the 11.

It just came out a year ago, so it is easily the best phone with a home button 
unless you have to have the larger screen that the 11 has.

MY only regret after a year is that I did not buy the 256 GB phone, but the 128 
GB.
I have a ton of music and seem to be adding more and more stuff.
Time to delete things.
But, it is a great phone.

I would recommend though, wait and see what the 13 offers this fall.
Unless you need a phone now.

See if they bring back any kind of finger sensor.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?
I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

Cheers,

James B  .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPh

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-10 Thread Dennis Long
The SE2020

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.


What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have a nice 
day!

Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch

CAUTION: External Sender


My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the human, am 
not.--Joe

On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way they 
> need to be.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> but what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Traci Duncan
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>
> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-a
> pd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.
> com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-time-w
> ith-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C01%7C
> %7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
> %7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw
> MDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=FF4Ndp
> Fxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
>
> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had 
> in mind.
> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>
> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It 
> works for me.
>
> Brandon
>
> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from 
> Milton’s Paradise Lost
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne 
> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:annakb@sbcgl
> obal.net>>
> wrote:
>
> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.  
> when I teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time, 
> but the stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully 
> double-tap or sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have 
> checked the settings and believe they are correct.  Do you have to tap 
> on a certain area of the watch perhaps?  I have tried different segments, but 
> it doesn't seem to matter.
>
> --
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RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-10 Thread Dennis Long
It is a good phone.  I would get the 256 gig phone.  That is what I have.  I 
would rather have to much storage then not enough.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Here is some info about the iPHone SE 2020, or as Apple calls it the SE 2nd 
Generation.

 

It came out after the iPHone 11, so it has the same chip as the 11 and the same 
camera processing, though with only one camera, which is all you need for blind 
applications like OCR, Object recognition and good basic picture taking.

 

I use my iPhone SE 2ND Gen a lot and I sometimes can go about 10 hours between 
charges.

I would say 8 hours is solid.

It blows the iPhone 8 out of the water for performance.  Not to mention it has 
the same water resistance as the 11.

 

It just came out a year ago, so it is easily the best phone with a home button 
unless you have to have the larger screen that the 11 has.

 

MY only regret after a year is that I did not buy the 256 GB phone, but the 128 
GB.

I have a ton of music and seem to be adding more and more stuff.

Time to delete things.

But, it is a great phone.

 

I would recommend though, wait and see what the 13 offers this fall.  

Unless you need a phone now.

 

See if they bring back any kind of finger sensor.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Johna Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?  

I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

 

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

 

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.  

 

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

 

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

 

Cheers,

 

James B  .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Johna Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?

I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Johna Gravitt <mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM

Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu> > wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have 
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springf

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-10 Thread Dennis Long
It has both.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

So is the camera on it, front or rear?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Here is some info about the iPHone SE 2020, or as Apple calls it the SE 2nd 
Generation.

 

It came out after the iPHone 11, so it has the same chip as the 11 and the same 
camera processing, though with only one camera, which is all you need for blind 
applications like OCR, Object recognition and good basic picture taking.

 

I use my iPhone SE 2ND Gen a lot and I sometimes can go about 10 hours between 
charges.

I would say 8 hours is solid.

It blows the iPhone 8 out of the water for performance.  Not to mention it has 
the same water resistance as the 11.

 

It just came out a year ago, so it is easily the best phone with a home button 
unless you have to have the larger screen that the 11 has.

 

MY only regret after a year is that I did not buy the 256 GB phone, but the 128 
GB.

I have a ton of music and seem to be adding more and more stuff.

Time to delete things.

But, it is a great phone.

 

I would recommend though, wait and see what the 13 offers this fall.  

Unless you need a phone now.

 

See if they bring back any kind of finger sensor.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Johna Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?  

I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

 

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

 

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.  

 

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

 

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

 

Cheers,

 

James B  .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Johna Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?

I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Johna Gravitt <mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM

Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu> > wrote:
>
> What is the n

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-09 Thread Rena
Yes, I changed my 6S for a SE, and it has the button.

Rena


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

i believe that the SE2020 has one.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Shai" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.


iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A  wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have a
> nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe
> Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way they
>> need
>> to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
>> what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Traci
>> Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-time-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C01%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
>> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>>
>> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had in
>> mind.
>> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>>
>> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It
>> works
>> for me.
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from
>> Milton’s
>> Paradise Lost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne
>> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.  when I
>> teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time, but the
>> stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully double-tap or
>> sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have checked the settings
>> and
>> believe they are correct.  Do you have to tap on a certain area of the
>> watch
>> perhaps?  I have tried different segments, but it doesn't seem to matter.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
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>> owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> <mailto:car

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Simon A Fogarty
One pointing each way!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Friday, 9 April 2021 6:22 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

So is the camera on it, front or rear?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Here is some info about the iPHone SE 2020, or as Apple calls it the SE 2nd 
Generation.

It came out after the iPHone 11, so it has the same chip as the 11 and the same 
camera processing, though with only one camera, which is all you need for blind 
applications like OCR, Object recognition and good basic picture taking.

I use my iPhone SE 2ND Gen a lot and I sometimes can go about 10 hours between 
charges.
I would say 8 hours is solid.
It blows the iPhone 8 out of the water for performance.  Not to mention it has 
the same water resistance as the 11.

It just came out a year ago, so it is easily the best phone with a home button 
unless you have to have the larger screen that the 11 has.

MY only regret after a year is that I did not buy the 256 GB phone, but the 128 
GB.
I have a ton of music and seem to be adding more and more stuff.
Time to delete things.
But, it is a great phone.

I would recommend though, wait and see what the 13 offers this fall.
Unless you need a phone now.

See if they bring back any kind of finger sensor.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?
I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.
Johna

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

Cheers,

James B  .

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
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Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?
I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good
Johna

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
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No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A 
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu>> wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri St

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Simon A Fogarty
What do you call a regular model?

The iphone SE 2020 is a regular iPhone just built with a chip from the iphone 
11 and the screen size of the 7  and 8
There is nothing different in it’s abilities

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Friday, 9 April 2021 5:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?
I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A 
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu>> wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: 
>> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com%3chttp:/www.turner42.com>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-
>> apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outloo
>> k.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-tim
>> e-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C0
>> 1%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
>> 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000
>> =FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com%3cmailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
>> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net%3cmailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>>
>> To: 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silen

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Simon A Fogarty
The se 2020

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Friday, 9 April 2021 4:13 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.


What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have a nice 
day!

Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch

CAUTION: External Sender


My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the human, am 
not.--Joe

On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way they 
> need to be.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> but what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Traci Duncan
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>
> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-a
> pd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.
> com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-time-w
> ith-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C01%7C
> %7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
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>
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
>
> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had 
> in mind.
> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>
> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It 
> works for me.
>
> Brandon
>
> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from 
> Milton’s Paradise Lost
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne 
> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:annakb@sbcgl
> obal.net>>
> wrote:
>
> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.  
> when I teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time, 
> but the stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully 
> double-tap or sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have 
> checked the settings and believe they are correct.  Do you have to tap 
> on a certain area of the watch perhaps?  I have tried different segments, but 
> it doesn't seem to matter.
>
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Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Andy Baracco

i believe that the SE2020 has one.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Shai" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.


iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A  wrote:


What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have a
nice day!

Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe
Orozco
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch

CAUTION: External Sender


My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
human, am not.--Joe

On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way they
need
to be.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Traci
Duncan
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch

I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.

https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-time-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C01%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>



On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
- Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch


When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had in
mind.
At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:

Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It
works
for me.

Brandon

“Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from
Milton’s
Paradise Lost




On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne
<<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
wrote:

I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.  when I
teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time, but the
stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully double-tap or
sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have checked the settings
and
believe they are correct.  Do you have to tap on a certain area of the
watch
perhaps?  I have tried different segments, but it doesn't seem to matter.

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RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Richard Turner
Yes.

Like all iPhones, there is a front camera and a rear camera.
The larger phones have more than one rear camera.

If you want to really get into taking pictures, I recommend the book, Capturing 
The World by Judy Dixon available from National Braille Press.  She is blind 
and has great tips for learning to take good pictures.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

So is the camera on it, front or rear?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Here is some info about the iPHone SE 2020, or as Apple calls it the SE 2nd 
Generation.

It came out after the iPHone 11, so it has the same chip as the 11 and the same 
camera processing, though with only one camera, which is all you need for blind 
applications like OCR, Object recognition and good basic picture taking.

I use my iPhone SE 2ND Gen a lot and I sometimes can go about 10 hours between 
charges.
I would say 8 hours is solid.
It blows the iPhone 8 out of the water for performance.  Not to mention it has 
the same water resistance as the 11.

It just came out a year ago, so it is easily the best phone with a home button 
unless you have to have the larger screen that the 11 has.

MY only regret after a year is that I did not buy the 256 GB phone, but the 128 
GB.
I have a ton of music and seem to be adding more and more stuff.
Time to delete things.
But, it is a great phone.

I would recommend though, wait and see what the 13 offers this fall.
Unless you need a phone now.

See if they bring back any kind of finger sensor.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?
I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

Cheers,

James B  .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?
I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Johna Gravitt<mailto:jgrav...@

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Richard Turner
Here is some info about the iPHone SE 2020, or as Apple calls it the SE 2nd 
Generation.

It came out after the iPHone 11, so it has the same chip as the 11 and the same 
camera processing, though with only one camera, which is all you need for blind 
applications like OCR, Object recognition and good basic picture taking.

I use my iPhone SE 2ND Gen a lot and I sometimes can go about 10 hours between 
charges.
I would say 8 hours is solid.
It blows the iPhone 8 out of the water for performance.  Not to mention it has 
the same water resistance as the 11.

It just came out a year ago, so it is easily the best phone with a home button 
unless you have to have the larger screen that the 11 has.

MY only regret after a year is that I did not buy the 256 GB phone, but the 128 
GB.
I have a ton of music and seem to be adding more and more stuff.
Time to delete things.
But, it is a great phone.

I would recommend though, wait and see what the 13 offers this fall.
Unless you need a phone now.

See if they bring back any kind of finger sensor.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?
I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

Cheers,

James B  .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?
I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Johna Gravitt<mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A 
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu>> wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
>

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread bentleyj1952
Sorry, I don’t.  I can tell you that I use Seeing AI a lot and it is a battery 
hog.

 

Maybe your phone is old enough that the battery isn’t holding the same charge 
as when it was new.

 

Maybe some one who has the answer to your question will respond but I have seen 
more than just a few mentions stateing that Apple let us down some what on the 
iPhone SE 2020 battery life.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?  

I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

 

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

 

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.  

 

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

 

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

 

Cheers,

 

James B  .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Johna Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?

I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Johna Gravitt <mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM

Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu> > wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have 
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the 
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way 
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>> <http://www.turner42.com%3chttp:/www.turner42.com> <http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
&g

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Johna Gravitt
Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?
I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

Cheers,

James B  .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?
I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Johna Gravitt<mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A 
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu>> wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: 
>> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com%3chttp:/www.turner42.com>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-
>> apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outloo
>> k.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-tim
>> e-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C0
>> 1%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
>> 4wLjAwMDAiL

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread bentleyj1952
Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

 

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

 

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.  

 

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

 

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

 

Cheers,

 

James B  .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?

I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Johna Gravitt <mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM

Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu> > wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have 
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the 
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way 
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>> <http://www.turner42.com%3chttp:/www.turner42.com> <http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-
>> apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outloo
>> k.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-tim
>> e-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C0
>> 1%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
>> 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000
>> =FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
>> > <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com%3cmailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
>> <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Johna Gravitt
What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?
I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Johna Gravitt<mailto:jgrav...@benderconsult.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A 
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu>> wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: 
>> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com%3chttp:/www.turner42.com>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-
>> apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outloo
>> k.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-tim
>> e-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C0
>> 1%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
>> 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000
>> =FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com%3cmailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
>> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net%3cmailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>>
>> To: 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>>
>> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had
>> in mind.
>> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>>
>> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It
>> works for me.
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from
>> Milton’s Paradise Lost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 

Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Mike B
No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Johna Gravitt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.


That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A  wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-
>> apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outloo
>> k.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-tim
>> e-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C0
>> 1%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
>> 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000
>> =FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
>> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>>
>> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had
>> in mind.
>> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>>
>> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It
>> works for me.
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from
>> Milton’s Paradise Lost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne
>> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:annakb@sbcg
>> lobal.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.
>> when I teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time,
>> but the stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully
>> double-tap or sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have
>> checked the settings and believe they are correct.  Do you have to
>> tap on a certain area of the watch perhaps?  I have tried different
>> segments, but it doesn't seem to matter.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V
>> iPhone list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
>> itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your
>> list owne

Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Alan Lemly
No, it is the iPhone SE second generation also called the SE 2020. The iPhone 
12 Mini is a newer model and does not have a home button.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Johna 
Gravitt 
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:21:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A  wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-
>> apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outloo
>> k.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-tim
>> e-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C0
>> 1%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
>> 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000
>> =FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
>> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>>
>> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had
>> in mind.
>> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>>
>> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It
>> works for me.
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from
>> Milton’s Paradise Lost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne
>> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:annakb@sbcg
>> lobal.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.
>> when I teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time,
>> but the stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully
>> double-tap or sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have
>> checked the settings and believe they are correct.  Do you have to
>> tap on a certain area of the watch perhaps?  I have tried different
>> segments, but it doesn't seem to matter.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V
>> iPhone list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
>> itself.
>

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Johna Gravitt
That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A  wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have 
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the 
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way 
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-
>> apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outloo
>> k.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-tim
>> e-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C0
>> 1%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
>> 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000
>> =FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
>> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>>
>> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had 
>> in mind.
>> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>>
>> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It 
>> works for me.
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from 
>> Milton’s Paradise Lost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne 
>> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:annakb@sbcg
>> lobal.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.  
>> when I teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time, 
>> but the stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully 
>> double-tap or sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have 
>> checked the settings and believe they are correct.  Do you have to 
>> tap on a certain area of the watch perhaps?  I have tried different 
>> segments, but it doesn't seem to matter.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
>> iPhone list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
>> itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your 
>> list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu
>> i...@caraquinn.com>
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> <h

Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Shai
iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A  wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have a
> nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe
> Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way they
>> need
>> to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
>> what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Traci
>> Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-time-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C01%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
>> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>>
>> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had in
>> mind.
>> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:
>>
>> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It
>> works
>> for me.
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from
>> Milton’s
>> Paradise Lost
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne
>> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.  when I
>> teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time, but the
>> stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully double-tap or
>> sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have checked the settings
>> and
>> believe they are correct.  Do you have to tap on a certain area of the
>> watch
>> perhaps?  I have tried different segments, but it doesn't seem to matter.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
>> or
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list
>> owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

2021-04-08 Thread Johna Gravitt
I'd like to know that too 





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.





What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have a nice 
day!



Tim Lehmann

Access Specialist

Student Affairs

Missouri State University

Meyer Library 111G

901 South National Avenue

Springfield, Missouri 65897

Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158

mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco

Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch



CAUTION: External Sender





My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the human, am 
not.--Joe



On 4/8/21, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.

> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way they

> need to be.

>

>

>

> Richard

> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,

> but what they become by it."

> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900

>

> Web site: 
> www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com%3chttp:/www.turner42.com>>

>

>

>

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Traci Duncan

> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch

>

> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.

>

> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-a

> pd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.

> com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-time-w

> ith-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C01%7C

> %7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435

> %7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw

> MDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=FF4Ndp

> Fxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>

>

>

>

> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright

> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com%3cmailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>>>
>  wrote:

>

> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.

> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"

> mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net%3cmailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>>>

> To: 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>>

> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM

> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch

>

>

> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had

> in mind.

> At 09:12 PM 4/7/2021, you wrote:

>

> Try a slight pause between the taps, roughly a half second or so. It

> works for me.

>

> Brandon

>

> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven† – Satan, from

> Milton’s Paradise Lost

>

>

>

>

> On Apr 7, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Ann Byrne

> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:annakb@sbcgl<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net%3cmailto:annakb@sbcgl>

> obal.net>>

> wrote:

>

> I cannot get my watch to vibrate the time instead of speaking it.

> when I teach, I don't want my students to know I'm checking the time,

> but the stinkin' watch just shouts it out even though I carefully

> double-tap or sometimes tripple-tap to get it to vibrate.  I have

> checked the settings and believe they are correct.  Do you have to tap

> on a certain area of the watch perhaps?  I have tried different segments, but 
> it doesn't seem to matter.

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