Resolving an issue in iOS 8 which makes Bluetooth keyboard not working

2014-09-29 Thread Ein
Hi,

If your Bluetooth keyboard doesn't work with VoiceOver except just a few 
functions in iOS 8.0 and iOS 8.0.2, try the following steps to resolve the 
issue. Once the problem disappears, it doesn't appear again unless you 
change the iPhone language in Settings, General, Language  Region. To make 
the problem disappear from your iPhone, follow these steps:

1. If you use just one software keyboard, temporarily add an arbitrary one 
in Settings, General, Keyboard, Keyboards, Add New Keyboard.
2. Open the Notes app.
3. Create a new note.
4. Press the left arrow key and the right arrow key simultaneously to turn 
off the quick navigation option.
5. Hold down the command key and press the space key several times to cycle 
through the list of software keyboards.
6. Press the left arrow key and the right arrow key simultaneously to turn 
on the quick navigation option.
7. Now your Bluetooth keyboard should work fine except other iOS bugs.
8. You may delete the software keyboard temporarily added at Settings, 
General, Keyboard, Keyboards.

This is a copy of the email sent to RiVO customers to resolve the issue (
http://goo.gl/GiBvWy) since we have found that it should also resolve the 
problem for other Bluetooth keyboards as well.

Thanks.
Ein

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Re: Changes to Goodreads App

2014-09-29 Thread Shirley
For some reason I find it complex to use goodreads on my pc. Havent checked the 
ap out in a while.
I wonder if its just on IOS 8 that the changes took effect, or if its the same 
with IOS 7 and if voice over now will not read the screen properly?
Shirley

From: Michelle Bernstein 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Changes to Goodreads App

I was not pleased to go to the Goodreads app yesterday and discover that this 
company automatically updated my app.
One of the updates they made is quite a nuisance to my eyes.  They changed the 
Currently Reading section of My Books
from text to a visual image of the book cover with a progress bar.  I was 
unable to figure out how to delete these currently reading titles from the app 
so I went to
my pc and deleted both my currently reading titles and my to be read titles.  
Interestingly, the currently reading titles still remain on my app while they 
have been elimatinated on my pc.  The to be read titles were eliminated in both 
the app and on the pc.  The section called read consisting of books that I 
have completed appears to be unchanged.

I did email the support team at goodreads and requested that they not 
automatically update all the apps and that they
offer an opt out.  I explained the effects of this automatic update to persons 
like myself with limited vision and expressed disappointment that they
did not appear to be aware or interested in this segment of the reading 
population. If this is of concern to anyone else, you can contact Goodreads by 
emailing supp...@goodreads.com

Michelle
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Adding apps to the duck

2014-09-29 Thread Thomas Williams
How do you add apps to the duck?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
I wonder how many times I've mentioned that to the SpeedDots people, for 
mBraille, now iOs braille;  same layout, so would work both;  but they don't 
seem to be listening.

As a thought, and I did do this;  since screen protectors are quite flexible 
as plastic,  I took a new one, and having measured a bit, folded it just 
above where I reckon the top of the ordinary keyboard should have been.  I 
creased it, flattened it out, then fitted it.  The line remains forever as a 
datum point, and it was pretty close, so did the guiding job even if not 
spot on.

In short, Anybody could bodge about with a stylus, ballpoint or whatever and 
improvise something; and could be of benefit, even if it don't look quite 
professional.

Doesn't work so well when you have a case with builtin screen cover, but 
have been known to cut that out with a Stanley knife and put a SpeedDots 
cover on instead.  the rest of the case did the protection thing just as 
good.

Something to experiment with.

Rh.

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From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


Hi.

Now you mention screen protectors. Is there anyone who has got the idea to 
make a screen protector with some tactile marks that would allow you more 
easily to place your fingers correct when typing in braille with mbraille or 
with apples new teriffic braille input.

Best regards Annie.
Den 29/09/2014 kl. 03.07 skrev Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com:

 iPhones aren't made with ordinary glass. They're made with Corning's 
 gorilla glass and they have additional scratch resistance added. I won't 
 say they can't be scratched, but I wouldn't say that they scratch very 
 easily either.

 I use the tactile screen protectors from SpeedDots. I find the tactile 
 feedback helps when exploring by touch and jumping straight to different 
 objects on the screen. I got the screen protector for this reason and not 
 because I was worried about scratches.

 My wife tosses her phone into her purse, and she uses both a case and a 
 screen protector, and I think she's pretty smart for doing that given how 
 she uses her phone and the fact that she doesn't want to worry about it.

 I'd say whether you want to use a screen protector comes down to how you 
 use your phone. I wouldn't let anyone make you feel bad for not using one 
 or talk you into not using one if you're going to be worrying about 
 scratching your screen.

 On 09/28/2014 12:25 AM, Chuck Dean wrote:
 I do not use a case on my phone, but I always use a screen protector. The 
 screen is glass, very easy to scratch, and with the screen protector I 
 can always place it face down and not have to worry about it.

 I buy the Apple screen protector. On my 3GS, I tried many third-party 
 screen protectors that would fall off and were sticky. The Apple screen 
 protector, on my for ass, lasted three years. As a matter fact, it's 
 still on there.


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 chaltain at Gmail

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Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
They don't inhibit movement really, Struth,  I get times when finger end 
drags on the screen so much, I can hardly work the phone.  Something about 
ambient conditions, moisture levels on your finger ends and things;  I get 
this with glass periodically.

Rh.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


Tactual marks on any screen protector, I would think, would inhibit swiping,
so I would not want them, nor do I need them.

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From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


Hi.

Now you mention screen protectors. Is there anyone who has got the idea to
make a screen protector with some tactile marks that would allow you more
easily to place your fingers correct when typing in braille with mbraille or
with apples new teriffic braille input.

Best regards Annie.
Den 29/09/2014 kl. 03.07 skrev Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com:

 iPhones aren't made with ordinary glass. They're made with Corning's
 gorilla glass and they have additional scratch resistance added. I won't
 say they can't be scratched, but I wouldn't say that they scratch very
 easily either.

 I use the tactile screen protectors from SpeedDots. I find the tactile
 feedback helps when exploring by touch and jumping straight to different
 objects on the screen. I got the screen protector for this reason and not
 because I was worried about scratches.

 My wife tosses her phone into her purse, and she uses both a case and a
 screen protector, and I think she's pretty smart for doing that given how
 she uses her phone and the fact that she doesn't want to worry about it.

 I'd say whether you want to use a screen protector comes down to how you
 use your phone. I wouldn't let anyone make you feel bad for not using one
 or talk you into not using one if you're going to be worrying about
 scratching your screen.

 On 09/28/2014 12:25 AM, Chuck Dean wrote:
 I do not use a case on my phone, but I always use a screen protector. The
 screen is glass, very easy to scratch, and with the screen protector I
 can always place it face down and not have to worry about it.

 I buy the Apple screen protector. On my 3GS, I tried many third-party
 screen protectors that would fall off and were sticky. The Apple screen
 protector, on my for ass, lasted three years. As a matter fact, it's
 still on there.


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 chaltain at Gmail

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Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
Like I said, I had one of those that cost $$s;  then took a fresh one and 
scored and creased my own.  Any reference point works once you learn its 
position relative to everything else.

They do help to keep you on track;  this is what is most needed with all 
this braille input thing.

R.
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From: Husna Begum h.begu...@btinternet.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


hi,

what is the tactile screen protector like and does it help with typing 
accuracy? I've just got a normal protector on my 5s at the moment, is it 
worth changing to one of the tactile ones?

thanks, Husna


From: Gmail
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

I pretty much always use cases with a built-in screen protector, such as the 
OtterBox Defender or Griffin Survivor. For the first little while that I had 
my iPhone 4, I used a Pixelspec HD case with a Solona  screen protector, but 
the protector kept getting pushed up on the sides by the case. I ended up 
removing the protector and the case, and switching to an OtterBox Defender. 
When that broke some time after getting my iPhone 4S, (the case lasted about 
four years for me) I moved to a Griffin Survivor.

When I get my new iPhone six, I'll most likely be moving back to the 
OtterBox defender again, since I like that style of case and clip better 
then the Griffin Survivor. The Defender allows easier access to the camera 
then does the Survivor. This was by design, as the Survivor has been made to 
comply with higher military specifications in regards to how much dirt, 
dust, moisture, etc. to protect against. The Survivors clip also grips the 
case in such a way that the charging port is unable to be accessed, and the 
Defender does not.

I haven't yet decided if I'm going to get a tactile screen protector from 
Speeddots that works with my iPhone 6's Defender case. Lol. It looks like 
I've made up my mind that I'm going to get an OtterBox cup of defender case 
for my new iPhone, as I'm talking like I have already decided to do so.


Thanks,
Ari



On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:


  I think the SpeedDots tactile screen protectors are excellent. And with 
Direct Touch Typing, they can be of real benefit on larger screens.
  I'm not sure if they have them out for the new models of iPhone yet, but 
I'll be getting one for the 6 Plus when I can.

  Jonathan.
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 27, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
wrote:


I've always had the best luck with the halo screen protectors. 
Especially  the matte ones.

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On Sep 26, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Lois Butterfield 
lbutterfield...@gmail.com wrote:


  I don’t have any right now on my new phone.

  I did in the past pay a lot for a Zag, which I ended up taking off 
because it wasn’t completely smooth.  It seemed a little sticky when trying 
to move around the screen.  It wouldn’t bother people who could see because 
they would place their finger where it needed to be before tapping.  I then 
put on a way less expensive one that was like glass and that worked fine for 
me.

  Take care,
  Lois

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  From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 6:21 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

  Hi,



  Curious to learn if folks are choosing to use screen protectors or 
not.



  Are they pretty generic and interchangeable, or are there certain 
recommended brands.



  Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: the 16 or the 64G?

2014-09-29 Thread Lois Butterfield

Hi Gail,

Let me know how you do.  You can write me off list if you want.

Take care,
Lois




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-Original Message- 
From: Gail the U. S. Male

Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the 16 or the 64G?

yes, I realize the size matters, also the condition. Mine is a 16 G, and
has been in an otterbox case before I even left the store, so, I'm sure it's
in excellent condition.
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From: Lois Butterfield lbutterfield...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: the 16 or the 64G?


Hi,

No, I didn't add a line or enter a new contract.  Like I said though, you
can't use that gift card toward your phone, and what you get for your phone
will depend on what it is and how many GB.  Mine was a 5 with 32 GB and was
in perfect condition.

Good luck.

Lois




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-Original Message- 
From: Gail the U. S. Male

Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the 16 or the 64G?

Lois, you bought your phone using the Next option, and Best Buy gave you the
gift card for trading in your iPhone, did yougo into a new contract, or add
a line, or anything?  I'm trying to figure out how you did this, since I
want to try the same thing!
- Original Message - 
From: Lois Butterfield lbutterfield...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: the 16 or the 64G?


No, it was for the trade-in of my iPhone 5.

Thanks,
Lois



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-Original Message- 
From: Robin

Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the 16 or the 64G?

Did you receive this BestBuy Gift Card of $225 for ATT's Next Plan?
At 01:04 PM 9/28/2014, you wrote:
The way it worked for me who had 6 months before I was eligible for an 
upgrade was, my bill will have an additional approximately $30 for 18 
months.  After that, the phone is mine, and I am not under contract.  There 
was no initial payment or activation fee.


I won't like the bigger bill, but I can pay off early if I want to.  This 
doesn't make sense as there is no interest on the payments.


Lois

By the way, I got a Best Buy gift card of $225 that I couldn't use to pay 
for the phone, but I have no doubt I will find something to buy there, 
maybe an Apple TV.


Take care,
Lois



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-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the 16 or the 64G?

OK, so I guess that just means you pay for the phone in one year with
additional payments instead of having a regular 2-year contract without
additional payments after which time the phone is also yours.
Do you then not pay $199, $299 or whatever the initial payment is at all?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the 16 or the 64G?

With the next plan from ATT, you don't have to keep getting a new phone.
Once you have paid for your phone, your bill goes back to normal.  That is
what I was told anyway, and is the reason I went with that plan for this
phone.

Take care,
Lois




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-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the 16 or the 64G?

Plans like ATT Next and whatever they are called from other carriers are
rip-offs and they are simply designed to lock people in to getting a new
phone every year and, of course, paying the premium price for it.

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brent Harding
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the 16 or the 64G?

I think it used to be $199, $299, and $399 on contract in the states for 
the


3 storage options. That $50 a month plan with Sprint looks worth jumping
back in and getting the 64 gig iPhone 6. The big question is whether to do
easy pay, or to do their rental thing for iPhone for Life.

- Original Message - From: Joanne Chua 

Restoring phone - top tips please

2014-09-29 Thread Robin Christopherson
Dear listers
I have a feeling my 8.0.2 install is more buggy than it should be. I get 
strange Siri behaviour where often she doesn’t speak or her speech is cropped. 
I also have an issue where she doesn’t recognise the mic in the earbuds even 
when it’s plugged in but can hear the built in mic. Also whenever I change the 
volume when listening to something and the screen is locked the screen lights 
and things are spoken out which obscures the audio. So all in all I’m thinking 
it would be good to start afresh and I was wondering what the best way to do 
this would be so that I have a completely fresh install of iOS but can then 
bring back my settings without risking bringing back the buggy behaviour as 
well. All ideas welcomed.
Thanks – Robin

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Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC

2014-09-29 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi Sieghard,

I am running Windows 8.1, and am currently using JAWS 16 Beta, as well as the 
latest version of System Access. My laptop does have a touchscreen, so I do 
have that functionality, as long as the screen reader can read the application.

In the case of CopyTrans, the only download they give you as a demo contains 
all of their products. When I launch it, my screen reader announces, CopyTrans 
Control Center, but that's all I can see. I can't even OCR the window.

Cheryl

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for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

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 On Sep 29, 2014, at 1:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl,
  
 What version of Windows and which screenreader are you using? I used Copy 
 Trans to get some music off my wife’s iPod Touch and was able to use it with 
 Jaws 15.
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC
  
 Mark,
  
 How did you work around the accessibility issues with CopyTrans? When I open 
 it, all I get is a blank screen.
  
 Cheryl
 
 
 Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
 for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:28 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Cheryl,
 
 I have had excellent luck with CopyTrans.
 
 I purchased it back in 2009 and have used it many times since then in 
 conjunction with my Windows computers.  
 
 I think the last time I used it was sometime last year.
 
 Mark  
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC
 
 OK, these are all programs for the PC that I have tried: DiskAid (now 
 iMazing), iExplorer, CopyTrans, Appandora, Wondershare TunesGo, Cucusoft 
 iPhone Contacts + SMS Backup, Backuptrans SMS iPhone Backup  Restore, and 
 TouchCopy 12. I've had the most luck with TouchCopy, meaning that I can 
 actually read some of my iPhone's contents on the screen, but that's about 
 it. The others are full of unlabeled buttons that may not actually be 
 buttons, or they're just a blank window.
 
 Suggestions appreciated.
 
 Cheryl
 
 
 Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
 for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
 
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 On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi there. Perhaps if you could tell us which programs or apps you have tried 
 to do this so that people don't make the same recommendations.
 
 ---
 Sent from Raul's rectangular glass - 832.554.7285
 Please excuse any auto complete or dictation weirdness.
 
 On Sep 28, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Cheryl Lenartiene cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Does anyone know of an accessible app for the PC that would allow you to 
 remove and save text messages from your IPhone? I've tried several, and none 
 of them are accessible.
 
 Thanks,
 Cheryl
 
 
 Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
 for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
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Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
I can reproduce this whenever I stream content from my iPhone 5C to my Apple 
TV. It's definitely a bug.

Cheryl

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for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
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 On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
 Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod 
 Touch and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also 
 appears that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of 
 the app which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control 
 Centre.
 So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 
 8.0.2 and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find 
 that Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.
 This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple 
 has indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
 introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
 time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
 is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.
 I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
 even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.
  
 OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
 with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
 responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
 Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover 
 sounds and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this 
 is definitely a bug.
 I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com about this.
  
 As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking 
 especially if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
I think anybody can apply to be a tester, though there's bound to be 
requirements, like technical skill, or adventurous enough to dig in it all 
to really test, and feedback in a coherent way.

Rh.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products


It is to bad apple could not hire people with different disabilities.  The 
people could either work at apple itself or work from home.  The employees 
from disability support could be asked to get people's contact info so those 
people could be IOS testers.
Connie

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 One day??  That would be nowhere near long enough.  How well were you able 
 to use the iPhone after 1 day?

 I think that a good source of information on testing would be the people 
 who take calls on the phone number that especially for those who are 
 handicapped.  I'm thinking that they would have a better feel for our 
 difficulties in using the devices than any of the other tech reps.

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 - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 PM
 Subject: One way Apple could better test its products


 Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on 
 using VoiceOver. I don't mean that sarcastically, but I do remember when 
 Microsoft touted Internet Explorer as being able to be operated totally 
 with keyboard shortcuts without touching the mouse. I know, it's not the 
 same thing, but I think people who want to develop products for people 
 with differing abilities should, perhaps, have to walk a while in their 
 shoes. Obviously, there are other disabilities as well, so it would mean a 
 lot of pairs of shoes, but I bet it would work better for everyone as a 
 result.

 Neal

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Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
Be willing to train, then apply, you have to take something saleable to an 
interview;  and no guarantee even then.
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From: connie mohney conniemoh...@sbcglobal.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products


Of course.  The person with a disability would have to have knowledge about 
the products or be willing to be trained.
Connie

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 On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

 Absolutely right.  First, you have to be able to do the job, whatever it 
 is, regardless of your handicap.  The handicap should be a secondary 
 consideration, if it is a consideration at all.  A prime example of this 
 is this:  I have been in foreign food restaurants, and not been able to 
 communicate with the servers because they don't speak English well enough 
 to communicate with the general public.  If I had been in charge of the 
 hiring process, a major consideration would have been the ability to 
 communicate with Americans, in English.  If they couldn't, they wouldn't 
 get the job that requires that skill.  This is not due to prejudice on my 
 part, but a fact of reality.

 If I am blilnd, but know nothing at all abolut the technology field, I 
 shlould not be hired to work in that field until I have some background, 
 in the form of training, at least, in the field.

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 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:55 PM
 Subject: RE: One way Apple could better test its products


 Hi Conni,

 I am sure people with disabilities do work at Apple. However, just having 
 a
 disability does not qualify anybody for a job, if they wanted to hire 
 people
 to work in iOS development who are blind then that blind person would have
 to meet whatever qualifications any other employee has who works in the 
 same
 department.

 Regards,
 Sieghard

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of connie mohney
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products

 It is to bad apple could not hire people with different disabilities.  The
 people could either work at apple itself or work from home.  The employees
 from disability support could be asked to get people's contact info so 
 those
 people could be IOS testers.
 Connie

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
 wrote:

 One day??  That would be nowhere near long enough.  How well were you 
 able
 to use the iPhone after 1 day?

 I think that a good source of information on testing would be the people
 who take calls on the phone number that especially for those who are
 handicapped.  I'm thinking that they would have a better feel for our
 difficulties in using the devices than any of the other tech reps.

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
 finished, you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers
 neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, Septemlber 24, 2014 9:56 PM
 Subjeclt: One way Apple could lbetter test its products


 Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on
 using VoiceOver. I don't mean that sarcastically, but I do remember when
 Microsoft touted Internet Explorer as being able to be operated totally 
 with
 keyboard shortcuts without touching the mouse. I know, it's not the same
 thing, but I think people who want to develop products for people with
 differing abilities should, perhaps, have to walk a while in their shoes.
 Obviously, there are other disabilities as well, so it would mean a lot of
 pairs of shoes, but I bet it would work better for everyone as a result.

 Neal

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RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
Yes, it is right. But remember that are many many sighted people no very
happy with iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+. Do not think that we are the problem. No,
every body is getting problems with IOs8, and many other issues with the
hardware of iPhone 6, and iPhone 6+. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.

Pablo,

Whether we give money to Apple by buying iPhones will make no difference, I
mean zero.
Apple sold over ten million iPhones during the launch weekend, I think it
was something like 4 million during the first 24 hours of when preorders
were available on the internet. This also does not include China where the
iPhone 6 and 6 Plus have not yet been released and where Apple will sell a
ton of new iPhones once they become available.
Do you really think that even if 50,000 were bought by blind or visually
impaired people that would make a dent? Based on 10 million that would be
0.5% and I bet that the number of phones bought by blind people is much
smaller.
By the way, anybody who buys a new 5S now will get it with iOS 8
preinstalled, just because it is last year's phone doesn't mean Apple will
ship it with last year's iOS.
Anybody who has an iPhone of course can choose to stay with iOS 7.1.2, but
anybody who is in the market for an iPhone now whether a 5S, 6 or 6 Plus
will have to deal with iOS 8. I also think that Apple does listen. Yes, they
haven't listened a lot I think during the Beta cycle to the few blind people
who submitted Voiceover related bug reports, but I have no doubt that iOS 8
Voiceover bugs will be addressed and saying that Apple does not listen is
just not true.
Whether things will be worse when iOS 9 is release remains to be seen,
claiming it will be worse at this point is nothing but a claim or guess
which can't be substantiated.
Enjoy iOS 7.1.2, I think it was an excellent choice not to update and I'm
sure if you keep checking the list you'll hear all about it when bugs are
fixed.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.

Nope, are another solution. Keep IOs 7.1.2, and do not upgrade to IOs8, like
this, no bugs will be doing anything in your iDevice. If you don't have and
iPhone, do not buy any iPhone 6s or iPhone 6. Just buy an iPhone 5s, that is
cheaper, and with IOs 7.1.2. The blind community is been very affected with
these bugs, and apple is paying to us the same attention that walmart does
when a blind person make complain about the traffic in the stores. I mean,
nothing.
We have the solution. We have the money that they want, we have it in our
pockets. We have the power. Do not give them money, until they have a good
thing to offert to us. Because if we give the money before they do anything,
probably, they will not do anything, or not what we want really.
I know that they people who has business with apple, is going to defend
apple. Even though, one year ago I said the same thing that today the most
part of the list is saying.
Let me tell you one more thing. Next year, this issue is going to be worse.
Unless we stop giving money to someone who is not doing good things, and
keep the good things that we had before. Like iPhone 5s with IOs 7.1.2, or
our old 4s, etc.





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of RobH.
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update.

Sadder when you spend all that extra money, and find some of the irritations
and limitations of a'droid.

Agree, those iOs bugs are bad!..   some have managed to work around and live

with them,  while they're fixed.

JMO, R.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Wassmer kevinwass...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:03 AM
Subject: issues I have with the new update.


Hello folks. I usually don't post on
here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is
very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely
disappointed. I just might let them know this. First, when a person dials a
number manually with voice-over, the numbers stick. I don't know if this is
fixed in IOS 8.02 or not. Second, I use my blue tooth keyboard a lot. Now my
key board does not type or activate items with Voice-over. I can navigate on
the screen. But not type or activate items. On previous updates the issues
mentioned above didn't exist. I took my iPhone to the Apple store and they
couldn't figure out the issue. I am not mad at the technicians at the store.
I am upset with the developers of Apple. They should know better. Also

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
Sieghard
If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your
life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve
the IOs8 quality either. Maybe you are protecting your own business now, but
one year ago, I said the same things that now the people on the  list, and
around the world is saying. Apple is abusing.
But if you continue on that position, next year this issue is going to be
worse, not better. Business doesn't work like this.
They want the money of the customers, if they don't receive our money, they
need to improve their products, to make it fancy  or attractive for us.
They will not improve IOs 8  quality, or accessibility quality, if we looks
so happy with their job. When you every year pay almost a thousand of
dollars for one new apple phone, it means that you are happy with what ever
they have done. Again, I am not talking about only about blind people. I am
talking about every body, because you and every body here, been blind,  is
people, right?
Ok, it is my point. Many times, we run to the apple store, to buy what ever
they put on their desks. They are making money with our money. But we are
getting a lot of problems with their IOs releases every year. What is the
solution?
Run and buy a new iPhone every year?
Get the IOs bugs, and wait until apple developers fix their bugs?
Be patience with apple?
They are patience with the customers?
Are you paying them little bit by little bit, or you have to pay everything
on one time, or you have to sign a contract for 2 or 3 years with who ever
sales iPhones?
Why we have to be patience??
No, of course no.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.

Correct, and I believe it was something like 9 people who actually reported
their iPhone bent out of several millions which were sold. I bent my iPhone
5S a few months ago but it was my own fault and if you were to really look
at what happened with those iPhone 6 Plus units that did bent you would
probably find that it also was the user's fault. Don't forget that the media
is totally out to slam Apple wherever they can so everything even if it
really is not a problem gets blown out of proportion. Apparently you are one
of those who believe everything they read online... bad idea, Pablo, you can
read anything online even many reports of people who love iOS 8 *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update.

Did you also read the Consumer Reports follow-up report where they purchased
an iPhone 6+ and tested it against sevcral other phones of the same size? 

Well, the iPhone withstood 20 pounds more pressure before starting to bend
compared with it's closest competitor. In other words, the story about Apple
being so bad did not hold up.

When you switch to Android or WINDOWS phone, please let me know how much
better the new phone choice works out for you. Which ever phone you decide
to go with, I hope it works out for you. As for me, I remain an Apple fanboy
for now.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Sep 2014, at 09:22, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well my friend. I can tell you. You are right. Apple in the last 2 
 years
has
 been doing very very bad. They are abusing of their reputation. They 
 are believing that they are enough, and they are not paying so much 
 attention
to
 the quality of their products. As I said before. My iPhone 5s, is the 
 last iPhone that I would be buy. Until apple start to be  more humble, 
 and more focus in the quality of Ios, and iPhones also. By the way, 
 today I read something online, saying that are people making complain 
 to apple, because their iPhone 6+ bends if they put the iPhone in the 
 pockets. Apple respond that their phones are created with a very high 
 quality of glass, and titanium, but any way, are people who reported their
iPhones 6+, bended.
 So sad.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kevin Wassmer
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 1:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: issues I have with the new update.
 
 Hello folks. I usually don't post on
 here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company 
 that is very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am 
 extremely disappointed. I just might let them know this. First, when a 
 person dials
a
 number manually with voice-over, the numbers stick. I don't know if 
 this
is
 fixed in IOS 8.02 or not. Second, I use my blue tooth keyboard a lot. 
 Now

Re: The good things in iOS8

2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
It also doesn't work when adding a new contact. Discovered this earlier. 
8.0.2 on iPhone 4s.



Sent from my laptop

On 21/09/2014 20:05, Teresa Cochran wrote:

You can slide around with your finger until you get to the character you want, 
then quickly lift and tap. It's surprisingly like virtual typing to me. It 
doesn't seem to work for me in the password and passcode fields, though. It 
reverts to standard typing for those.

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the 
brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

I must of missed the direct typing feature.  What is it and what does it let 
you do?


Regards,

Alan

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- Original Message - From: Laura laura@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:00 PM
Subject: The good things in iOS8


Hi

I know there have been some bugs, and I know there's been some upset, but I 
wanted to take a moment to recognise the good things in iOS8.

I love the direct typing feature. I've been hoping for it for years, and I'm so 
much faster on both the iPad and iPhone as a result. I also love having Alex as 
an option, and having braille as a universal input will make it much easier to 
type in louder environments

I'm not saying we shouldn't give them feedback about the bugs, or that we 
shouldn't complain if they don't listen, but we could also recognise the things 
they have done well. And it's also worth noting that a lot of sighted people 
are upset about the bugs in the current release. I'd be wary about reading too 
much into apple's commitment to accessibility based on the voiceover bugs in 
this release.

Cheers.

Laura

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Re: Need some advice on carriers

2014-09-29 Thread Ryan Mann
Credo Mobile, the company I'm with offers unlimited data and I didn't find 
anything on their web site about throttling after a certain amount of data. As 
a bonus, they donate part of their profits to non-profit organizations. Their 
web site is below.
http://credomobile.com


Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Obviously, double check this with your carrier. I think Sprint and T-Mobile 
 still offer truly unlimited data plans without caps or throttling, but like I 
 said, check the fine print, this is always changing.
 
 On 09/28/2014 08:50 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 One thing to keep in mind about carriers offering so called unlimited data 
 plans is that after so many gigabytes of data usage they will throttle you 
 still the data usage become so slow that it isn't even really worth calling 
 and unlimited.
 
 On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 
 On my Verizon plan I just upgraded from 4 gigs to 8 gigs for $20.  I think 
 it'll be worth it.  I would stay with Verizon.  If you switch carriers, 
 you'll get what you pay for.  If I were to switch to a carrier with an 
 unlimited usage plan, my main question is, can I get good coverage not only 
 where I live, but where I don't?
 
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 - Original Message - From: Dana danano...@comcast.net
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 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:07 PM
 Subject: Need some advice on carriers
 
 
   Right now I have verizon and I have only about two gigs of data if I go
 over I pay 10 dollars each additional gig.
 I would love to be able to listen to music at work and so forth but feel
 that it would put me way over on usage of gigs.
 I have looked in to other carriers like sprint and t mobile ETC and we get
 their service in the area in which I live now but in my parents home town
 for example there is no coverage for the carriers.
 I really wish that in all honesty there was another sollution and or I would
 like others to tell me about their experiences with carriers that have
 unlimited data plans.
 I got my I phone 5s about 6 months ago so I am not elligible for another
 phone for about a year and four months and I sure would love to be able to
 have an iphone 6.
 Dana
 
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Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread alia robinson
The only way to improve products is to use them and report bugs when we find 
them, as stated before if every person using accessibility stopped buying it 
wouldn't make not a single bit of difference, and apple isn't making money off 
accessibility; they could just stop doing it, period. I can't go in and buy an 
android phone off the shelf and use it. I can't buy a windows computer right 
off the shelf and use it. I can with apple, and no they don't have to do it at 
all. The only way to improve things is from within, and refusing to buy will do 
nothing for accessibility. 

Alia
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sieghard
 If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your
 life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve
 the IOs8 quality either. Maybe you are protecting your own business now, but
 one year ago, I said the same things that now the people on the  list, and
 around the world is saying. Apple is abusing.
 But if you continue on that position, next year this issue is going to be
 worse, not better. Business doesn't work like this.
 They want the money of the customers, if they don't receive our money, they
 need to improve their products, to make it fancy  or attractive for us.
 They will not improve IOs 8  quality, or accessibility quality, if we looks
 so happy with their job. When you every year pay almost a thousand of
 dollars for one new apple phone, it means that you are happy with what ever
 they have done. Again, I am not talking about only about blind people. I am
 talking about every body, because you and every body here, been blind,  is
 people, right?
 Ok, it is my point. Many times, we run to the apple store, to buy what ever
 they put on their desks. They are making money with our money. But we are
 getting a lot of problems with their IOs releases every year. What is the
 solution?
 Run and buy a new iPhone every year?
 Get the IOs bugs, and wait until apple developers fix their bugs?
 Be patience with apple?
 They are patience with the customers?
 Are you paying them little bit by little bit, or you have to pay everything
 on one time, or you have to sign a contract for 2 or 3 years with who ever
 sales iPhones?
 Why we have to be patience??
 No, of course no.

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Re: Seeing Eye GPS App, Worth It?

2014-09-29 Thread Feliciano G
Not sure. Check with sendero.

  Regards, Feliciano



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 On Sep 28, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Kerri kootenaycr...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 hi, is the seeing eye gps usable in Canada or only the states?
 ***
 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the 
 pulling down of strong holds, Casting down imaginations, and every high thing 
 that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and bringing into captivity 
 every thought to the obedience of Christ.
 
 2 Corinthians 10-4 
 
 On Sep 28, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  I personally like the look around features that BlindSquare has compared to 
 Seeing Eye GPS.
 
   Regards, Feliciano
 
 
 
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 Hi, now that the Seeing Eye GPS app has been out a while, can people give 
 up-to-date impressions? Is it worth the subscription cost, or are there 
 alternatives that work better and more cost-efficient? Thanks for your 
 input.
  
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Re: Adding apps to the duck

2014-09-29 Thread Alex Hall
You move them there, assuming there is room. To move an app, double tap and 
hold on it,leaving your finger down until VoiceOver says editing apps. Drag 
the app where you want it, the dock in your case, and release it. This takes 
some practice, but it is doable once you get the hang of it.
On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Thomas Williams n4v...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you add apps to the duck?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Issue with deleting email

2014-09-29 Thread Terri S
Hello there Christopher, and others,

Thank you for attempting to help me. I really appreciate it.
I believe my account is set up as a pop account. How do I find out what it is 
set up as?
Also, if I want to change it, how do I do this? I went into the settings, but I 
did not see this as an option.
I did change the setting to delete messages, instead of archive them. So I do 
have this fixed.
However, this problem is still happening. It seems to be just in the inbox. As 
far as I can tell. I haven't checked other folders. Although, there are a lot 
of messages in my trash folder.over 4000, as it first I was just moving them, 
and not actually deleting them.
Is there a way to delete all these messages out of here? Or do I have to do it 
one by one? I sure as heck hope not.

Any help, and/or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thank you again.



Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 28, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is it possible you have Gmail set up to use POP instead of IMAP? What you 
 describe could happen if you're using POP and you don't have it configured to 
 remove the messages from the server after downloading them or deleting them.
 
 Also, are you just talking about the in box? When using IMAP, if you delete a 
 message from the in box Gmail moves it to your trash folder, so you'll still 
 see it in your trash and all mail folders.
 
 Also, last I knew, the email client on the iPhone defaulted to moving your 
 email to the archive folder. You can change this in your email settings to 
 have your messages sent to the trash folder instead of the archive folder. 
 You'll see archive instead of delete at the bottom of your messages and in 
 the roter when you flick down if you haven't changed this default yet.
 
 On 09/28/2014 06:07 PM, Terri S wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I am having some email issues, when trying to delete messages. I can not say 
 whether or not this is a new problem, as I have just recently started 
 deleting my mail. As crazy as that sounds.
 
 When trying to delete messages, they don't get deleted. I am trying to 
 delete the messages individually. I swipe down, until I get to the delete 
 option.
 Some of them get deleted. But a lot of the night. I don't understand where 
 this is going on. It doesn't make sense to me. They disappear, as though 
 they have been deleted. But then when I start the milk Landover, either 
 because I am finished, or voiceover steps, I come back and a bunch of the 
 messages are still there.
 What would cause this to happen? Why is this going on? Is anyone else having 
 this issue?
 
 Any help with this problem would be very much appreciated. It is very 
 annoying, as I get a lot of mail. I'm tired of this happening. I did do the 
 upgrade to 8.2 a day or two ago. While it has fixed my bags, I am still 
 having bags. But it is better than it was.that was supposed to be, bugs.
 
 Thank you, and I look forward to your responses.
 
 Terri
 
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RE: KNFB reader rocks!

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
I had better luck than I have ever head also.  
Where does one find the tilt in KNFB, I know it has to be there but I can't
find it, and don't have time to listen to the podcast again.  


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Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!

I've had good luck reading things with this app, even on my 4S, 
more luck than with any other app I have purchased, or with the 
KNFB Reader on the Nokia N 82, for that matter.  Oh, I'm not 
claiming that it is perfect by any means; but, for my purposes of 
sorting my mail and the like, I am able to get good enough 
results to get the job done to my satisfaction.

 - Original Message -
From: Shirley listm...@eircom.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:01:39 +0100
Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!

Is it worth the money then? 99 dollars seems an awful lot of 
money to pay
for an ap.
But if it works, I wouldnt mind paying.
Shirley

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB reader rocks!


Hi all,
I am having lunch at my local sandwich shop.  They have a menu 
mounted on the
wall behind the cash register.
I took a picture of the menu...  Worked pretty well!



Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

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RE: Alex voice, how is it?

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
 For reading Kindle books he is great, for the usual menus and such he is
so-so.  


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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alex voice, how is it?

I find that to my ears he sounds muffled especially at higher speeds and I
find the original female high quality voice pronounces things more clearly.
But I have often noticed in discussions about TTS voices that there is great
subjectivity.

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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alex voice, how is it?

He's still the best, but listen closely to the way he says cool. That's a
very strange clicking sound of the c in cool. 

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 28, 2014, at 1:40 AM, Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 To my ears, Alex sounds great on both y iPad Mini and Macbook Pro running
Maverix.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 28/09/2014 06:31, Chuck Dean wrote:
 Hi all,
 For those of you who have downloaded the Alex voice, is it worth it? It
takes almost an entire gigabyte, which I have plenty of now, but I'm just
curious do you really like it better?
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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RE: Light detector doesn't work for me either

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
Money Reader works, but Light detector does not.  Annoying to me since my
nephew and cousins who have been here a lot since June tend to leave lights
on because they get confused since I have ceiling fans and have two pulls,
the one with the tassel is for the light , the one with the wooden nob is
for the fan but they never get it right and I come home can't figure out why
my fan is not working, then once it is want to be sure the light is on or
off.  I used this app a lot this summer after... 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anna Byrne
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Light detector doesn't work for me either

And it's on the screen beside Money Reader, which doesn't work either.
Rats!
At 08:21 AM 9/28/2014, you wrote:
Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02?  It is
something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on
lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used regularly and
right now I can't get it to work.

Money reader does work.


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Subject: issues I have with the new update.

Hello folks. I usually don't post on
here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is
very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely
disappointed. I just might let them know this. First, when a person dials a
number manually with voice-over, the numbers stick. I don't know if this is
fixed in IOS 8.02 or not. Second, I use my blue tooth keyboard a lot. Now
my
key board does not type or activate items with Voice-over. I can navigate
on
the screen. But not type or activate items. On previous updates the issues
mentioned above didn't exist. I took my iPhone to the Apple store and they
couldn't figure out the issue. I am not mad at the technicians at the
store.
I am upset with the developers of Apple. They should know better. Also
what's this crap of them updating the software and then having the cell
phone service not working. If apple keeps this bull crap going on they will
lose customer such as myself who have grown to love Apple products. I might
email apple and let them know this. If Apple continues to do foolish things
like this on their updates, then I will switch to a droid. What a sad day
that would be. What do you all think?
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home made screen protectors - Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

2014-09-29 Thread Charles Rivard
Kind of sounds like one of those sheets from a raised line drawing kit would 
work as a home made screen protector.  Put the sheet onto the phone and have 
someone draw what you want, where it is as they see it through the sheet on 
the screen of the iDevice , then secure it with double sided tape.


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Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


I wonder how many times I've mentioned that to the SpeedDots people, for
mBraille, now iOs braille;  same layout, so would work both;  but they don't
seem to be listening.

As a thought, and I did do this;  since screen protectors are quite flexible
as plastic,  I took a new one, and having measured a bit, folded it just
above where I reckon the top of the ordinary keyboard should have been.  I
creased it, flattened it out, then fitted it.  The line remains forever as a
datum point, and it was pretty close, so did the guiding job even if not
spot on.

In short, Anybody could bodge about with a stylus, ballpoint or whatever and
improvise something; and could be of benefit, even if it don't look quite
professional.

Doesn't work so well when you have a case with builtin screen cover, but
have been known to cut that out with a Stanley knife and put a SpeedDots
cover on instead.  the rest of the case did the protection thing just as
good.

Something to experiment with.

Rh.

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From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


Hi.

Now you mention screen protectors. Is there anyone who has got the idea to
make a screen protector with some tactile marks that would allow you more
easily to place your fingers correct when typing in braille with mbraille or
with apples new teriffic braille input.

Best regards Annie.
Den 29/09/2014 kl. 03.07 skrev Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com:


iPhones aren't made with ordinary glass. They're made with Corning's
gorilla glass and they have additional scratch resistance added. I won't
say they can't be scratched, but I wouldn't say that they scratch very
easily either.

I use the tactile screen protectors from SpeedDots. I find the tactile
feedback helps when exploring by touch and jumping straight to different
objects on the screen. I got the screen protector for this reason and not
because I was worried about scratches.

My wife tosses her phone into her purse, and she uses both a case and a
screen protector, and I think she's pretty smart for doing that given how
she uses her phone and the fact that she doesn't want to worry about it.

I'd say whether you want to use a screen protector comes down to how you
use your phone. I wouldn't let anyone make you feel bad for not using one
or talk you into not using one if you're going to be worrying about
scratching your screen.

On 09/28/2014 12:25 AM, Chuck Dean wrote:

I do not use a case on my phone, but I always use a screen protector. The
screen is glass, very easy to scratch, and with the screen protector I
can always place it face down and not have to worry about it.

I buy the Apple screen protector. On my 3GS, I tried many third-party
screen protectors that would fall off and were sticky. The Apple screen
protector, on my for ass, lasted three years. As a matter fact, it's
still on there.



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RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
It was turned on but I turned it off and on again.  It still does not work.
Will try an uninstall install later have to get to work.  


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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.

Light Detector works fine for me. Make sure you go to Settings, Privacy and
Camera to make sure Light Detector is allowed to use the Camera.

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Of Rose Combs
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.

Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02?  It is
something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on
lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used regularly and
right now I can't get it to work.  

Money reader does work.  


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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: issues I have with the new update.

Hello folks. I usually don't post on
here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is
very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely
disappointed. I just might let them know this. First, when a person dials a
number manually with voice-over, the numbers stick. I don't know if this is
fixed in IOS 8.02 or not. Second, I use my blue tooth keyboard a lot. Now my
key board does not type or activate items with Voice-over. I can navigate on
the screen. But not type or activate items. On previous updates the issues
mentioned above didn't exist. I took my iPhone to the Apple store and they
couldn't figure out the issue. I am not mad at the technicians at the store.
I am upset with the developers of Apple. They should know better. Also
what's this crap of them updating the software and then having the cell
phone service not working. If apple keeps this bull crap going on they will
lose customer such as myself who have grown to love Apple products. I might
email apple and let them know this. If Apple continues to do foolish things
like this on their updates, then I will switch to a droid. What a sad day
that would be. What do you all think?
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RE: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I wonder if this is a Windows Metro version of Copy Trans rather than the 
regular desktop version.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

I am running Windows 8.1, and am currently using JAWS 16 Beta, as well as the 
latest version of System Access. My laptop does have a touchscreen, so I do 
have that functionality, as long as the screen reader can read the application.

 

In the case of CopyTrans, the only download they give you as a demo contains 
all of their products. When I launch it, my screen reader announces, CopyTrans 
Control Center, but that's all I can see. I can't even OCR the window.

 

Cheryl




Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;

for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 29, 2014, at 1:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hi Cheryl,

 

What version of Windows and which screenreader are you using? I used Copy Trans 
to get some music off my wife’s iPod Touch and was able to use it with Jaws 15.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC

 

Mark,

 

How did you work around the accessibility issues with CopyTrans? When I open 
it, all I get is a blank screen.

 

Cheryl






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for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:28 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu 
 wrote:

Hello Cheryl,

I have had excellent luck with CopyTrans.

I purchased it back in 2009 and have used it many times since then in 
conjunction with my Windows computers.  

I think the last time I used it was sometime last year.

Mark  

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC

OK, these are all programs for the PC that I have tried: DiskAid (now iMazing), 
iExplorer, CopyTrans, Appandora, Wondershare TunesGo, Cucusoft iPhone Contacts 
+ SMS Backup, Backuptrans SMS iPhone Backup  Restore, and TouchCopy 12. I've 
had the most luck with TouchCopy, meaning that I can actually read some of my 
iPhone's contents on the screen, but that's about it. The others are full of 
unlabeled buttons that may not actually be buttons, or they're just a blank 
window.

Suggestions appreciated.

Cheryl


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for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
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Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com  wrote:
Hi there. Perhaps if you could tell us which programs or apps you have tried to 
do this so that people don't make the same recommendations.

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On Sep 28, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Cheryl Lenartiene cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com 
mailto:cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com  wrote:
Does anyone know of an accessible app for the PC that would allow you to remove 
and save text messages from your IPhone? I've tried several, and none of them 
are accessible.

Thanks,
Cheryl


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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If this is happening on an iPod Touch and a 5C but not the 5S I wonder if it 
has to do with the 64 Bit processor. Maybe somebody else who has a 5S or an 
iPad Air or iPad Mini Retina could try this to see if they work correctly. Same 
would go for anybody with a 4S, 5 or another 5C.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I can reproduce this whenever I stream content from my iPhone 5C to my Apple 
TV. It's definitely a bug.

 

Cheryl




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for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.

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Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover sounds 
and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this is 
definitely a bug.

I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com  about this.

 

As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking especially 
if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Merv Keck
The 5S does not work with the Apple TV under IOS 8 and Airplay.

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Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
I don't have Light Detector, but I do have SeeingAssistant Light, and that one 
works for me. Have you tried that one?

Cheryl

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for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
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Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 29, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 It was turned on but I turned it off and on again.  It still does not work.
 Will try an uninstall install later have to get to work.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.
 
 Light Detector works fine for me. Make sure you go to Settings, Privacy and
 Camera to make sure Light Detector is allowed to use the Camera.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rose Combs
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.
 
 Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02?  It is
 something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on
 lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used regularly and
 right now I can't get it to work.  
 
 Money reader does work.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kevin Wassmer
 Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: issues I have with the new update.
 
 Hello folks. I usually don't post on
 here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is
 very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely
 disappointed. I just might let them know this. First, when a person dials a
 number manually with voice-over, the numbers stick. I don't know if this is
 fixed in IOS 8.02 or not. Second, I use my blue tooth keyboard a lot. Now my
 key board does not type or activate items with Voice-over. I can navigate on
 the screen. But not type or activate items. On previous updates the issues
 mentioned above didn't exist. I took my iPhone to the Apple store and they
 couldn't figure out the issue. I am not mad at the technicians at the store.
 I am upset with the developers of Apple. They should know better. Also
 what's this crap of them updating the software and then having the cell
 phone service not working. If apple keeps this bull crap going on they will
 lose customer such as myself who have grown to love Apple products. I might
 email apple and let them know this. If Apple continues to do foolish things
 like this on their updates, then I will switch to a droid. What a sad day
 that would be. What do you all think?
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Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC

2014-09-29 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
It's not coming up as a metro app. It comes up as a desktop app. And I get the 
same thing on my Windows seven computer.

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for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
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Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 29, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 I wonder if this is a Windows Metro version of Copy Trans rather than the 
 regular desktop version.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC
  
 Hi Sieghard,
  
 I am running Windows 8.1, and am currently using JAWS 16 Beta, as well as the 
 latest version of System Access. My laptop does have a touchscreen, so I do 
 have that functionality, as long as the screen reader can read the 
 application.
  
 In the case of CopyTrans, the only download they give you as a demo contains 
 all of their products. When I launch it, my screen reader announces, 
 CopyTrans Control Center, but that's all I can see. I can't even OCR the 
 window.
  
 Cheryl
 
 
 Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
 for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 1:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl,
  
 What version of Windows and which screenreader are you using? I used Copy 
 Trans to get some music off my wife’s iPod Touch and was able to use it with 
 Jaws 15.
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC
  
 Mark,
  
 How did you work around the accessibility issues with CopyTrans? When I open 
 it, all I get is a blank screen.
  
 Cheryl
 
 
 
 Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
 for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:28 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Cheryl,
 
 I have had excellent luck with CopyTrans.
 
 I purchased it back in 2009 and have used it many times since then in 
 conjunction with my Windows computers.  
 
 I think the last time I used it was sometime last year.
 
 Mark  
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Transferring text messages from iPhone to PC
 
 OK, these are all programs for the PC that I have tried: DiskAid (now 
 iMazing), iExplorer, CopyTrans, Appandora, Wondershare TunesGo, Cucusoft 
 iPhone Contacts + SMS Backup, Backuptrans SMS iPhone Backup  Restore, and 
 TouchCopy 12. I've had the most luck with TouchCopy, meaning that I can 
 actually read some of my iPhone's contents on the screen, but that's about 
 it. The others are full of unlabeled buttons that may not actually be 
 buttons, or they're just a blank window.
 
 Suggestions appreciated.
 
 Cheryl
 
 
 Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
 for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi there. Perhaps if you could tell us which programs or apps you have tried 
 to do this so that people don't make the same recommendations.
 
 ---
 Sent from Raul's rectangular glass - 832.554.7285
 Please excuse any auto complete or dictation weirdness.
 
 On Sep 28, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Cheryl Lenartiene cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Does anyone know of an accessible app for the PC that would allow you to 
 remove and save text messages from your IPhone? I've tried several, and none 
 of them are accessible.
 
 Thanks,
 Cheryl
 
 
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RE: KNFB reader rocks!

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
Well worth the money, I managed to get a whole page without any stand,
without missing letters, and I could never do that with Prizmo or the other
apps.  


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!

Is it worth the money then? 99 dollars seems an awful lot of money to pay 
for an ap.
But if it works, I wouldnt mind paying.
Shirley

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB reader rocks!


Hi all,
I am having lunch at my local sandwich shop. They have a menu mounted on the

wall behind the cash register.
I took a picture of the menu... Worked pretty well!



Chuck (mobile)
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Pickers Not Working for Me in iOS8.0.2 and Safari

2014-09-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

When I find a drop-down in Safari that says pop-up button and try to activate 
it, I notice the form controls at the bottom of the screen for previous and 
next, but no picker. Is anyone else experiencing this or finding a way around 
it?

Thanks,
Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

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RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
I uninstalled light detector and reinstalled it, still no go.  
It is allowed to use the camera under privacy settings.  Disappointed.  


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Also Omoby doesn't work.  But Tap Tap See does.

Go figure!

Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02?  It is 
something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on 
lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used regularly and 
right now I can't get it to work.

Money reader does work.


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Behalf Of Kevin Wassmer
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: issues I have with the new update.

Hello folks. I usually don't post on
here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that 
is very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely 
disappointed. I just might let them know this. First, when a person 
dials a number manually with voice-over, the numbers stick. I don't 
know if this is fixed in IOS 8.02 or not. Second, I use my blue tooth 
keyboard a lot. Now my key board does not type or activate items with 
Voice-over. I can navigate on the screen. But not type or activate 
items. On previous updates the issues mentioned above didn't exist. I 
took my iPhone to the Apple store and they couldn't figure out the issue. I
am not mad at the technicians at the store.
I am upset with the developers of Apple. They should know better. Also 
what's this crap of them updating the software and then having the cell 
phone service not working. If apple keeps this bull crap going on they 
will lose customer such as myself who have grown to love Apple 
products. I might email apple and let them know this. If Apple 
continues to do foolish things like this on their updates, then I will 
switch to a droid. What a sad day that would be. What do you all think?
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RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
I hope I can get it done when I have some free time and can concentrate. 


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Impressions

I think if one had access to his old email account, you could reset his 
Apple ID and be able to wipe it from iCloud, unless he used questions you 
don't have answers to.

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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First 
Impressions


LOL, isn't it fun?  Not!.  I can do well from my computer, typing on the 6
since it is larger is a bit of a challenge but doing so on the IPad is
really the challenge, I keep hiding the keyboard when I want to hit the
return key which does not help me at all.  Since the storm last  night kept
me up, I tried to set up keychain on the iPad, got stuck then finally got
the less with the code, but I am and always have been terrible at numbers,
so I had to work at it six times before I managed to remember the number and
get it input correctly.

I can't figure out the fingerprint thing at all it seems and when I called
my cell a while ago the iPad did not allow me to answer but I did not see a
choice for that under the Handoff settings.  Since I am upset about my
cousin and a bit angry with her too, did not sleep last night for more than
half an hour before thunder cracked right over my bed, or it sounded like it
anyway I could be missing things.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First
Impressions

Hi rose,
If you go to the BARD main page there is a previously downloaded link where
you can find past books and add them to your wish list.
I just got a iPhone 6from the apple store in Chandler. I've been entering
and changing passwords for the last three hours.


Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:

 Well, I went for it big time.  When I got to Verizon they had one iPhone 6
left, 128 GB which was above what I need but it was the same price as the 64
and while I was there since I changed to the Edge plan (next year I have
another new phone) plus well it just sounded okay with me.  Then I was
offered a case, I went with Otterbox, of course, And some other device, one
was Bose Bluetooth speakers.  In addition the man told us the android
tablets were free because I bought a new iPhone, so my cousin who has wanted
one for a while got it set up for her.  I came home, had a difficult time
finding the place to plug in the lightning cable first I knew it was on the
bottom and figured the case was covering it, I found that but then I have
never been particularly good with the cable on my iPad so.  Finally got
iTunes up restored all my apps.

 Sadly I lost all my Bard books and I don't always remember what I had
planned to read.  I see access to my iBook's is still there but Read2go is
empty and I have not looked at Audible just yet.

 Then, because I had to give my apple Password at Verizon I decided to
change it.  Finally got there and I can't tell you how many times it told me
it was either not strong, did not a capital letter or that they did not
match.  I know it is security but it is a true drag if I have no clue what
it is.

 My 4s went for trade, but my late Husband's 5 they would not take because
it had not been wiped and I tried the passwords he often used but I can't
get into his phone, have no clue what he was using, probably something to
keep me out, only because I put a Diabetes app on his phone (at his request
no less) when he was sleeping.  The upshot is it is a brick to me, they
can't turn off the find my iPhone without being able to access his account
and based on the trouble I had this evening with my own password, I can't
imagine how to fix it so I can take it back to them.  I suppose I could use
his apple ID.  Say I forgot the password and change it provided I can think
of one they will accept that it, something I can remember and not a jumbo.

 I need someone to help me get it on my WIFI, had to change its password
when I had to exchange the CenturyLink box last April and no one stayed
around long enough to read it so I could get it in braille and my scanning
ability is limited, KNFB you really may have to cooperate and help me out
here.

 Now I am off to reread Jonathan's book again.

 Oh, my cousin put my speaker on something and I can't find it, and she
can't find her android tablet, and I looked all the places she was and I
can't find it either, but then, I am not the 

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Good morning Pablo,

My iPhone is totally improving my quality of life and my efficiency in
running my business. I think I am speaking for many if I say that the iPhone
has revolutionized the way we can interact with information on a mobil
platform. What Apple has done by putting such a level of accessibility into
an off-the-shelf mass market device might just be the most important thing
that has happened to how blind people use technology ever.
Maybe now an Android phone might give good accessibility, but it sure didn't
when I bought my first iPhone 4 years ago and as somebody who has sensitive
data on my phone relating to my business the iPhone is in my opinion
superior because of the security it offers. 

As far as improving Apple products or iOS 8 in particular, not using it and
not providing feedback to Apple regarding the bugs will do even less. If all
blind people thought like you and nobody had downloaded iOS 8 and reported
back to Apple how would they fix the issues? Eventually we all have to
upgrade because our old devices will be no longer supported. Sure, I could
probably use my iPhone 5S with iOS 7.1.2 for another 3 or 4 years, but at
that point I probably start running into problems because app developers are
no longer supporting such an old version of iOS and so on. Then I have 2
options: either upgrade to the latest iOS version which if no blind people
used it and provided bug reports to Apple would probably have even more bugs
as you predict or I could switch to another platform which maybe is better
and maybe it's not. 

I think if you are so set on not giving Apple anything you should sell your
iPhone and move to Android. One good thing is that you may not have to
complain avout upgrading because you might not be able to upgrade given the
fragmentation of devices and the fact they often either can't run newer
versions of Android or the carriers don't offer them.

I know we won't see eye to eye on this, but that's of course OK as we all
are entitled to our opinions. I totally agree that iOS 8 especially for
Voiceover users is full of bugs and that it has more bugs than other iOS
releases. But the difference between you and me is that I always try to see
the good things first both in people and products. You focus on the bad
aspects of a product first and for you these negative aspects overshadow the
good aspects. Like I said, everybody is entitled to their opinions and to
look at the world and the people around us any which way they like, but I
prefer the positive approach and believe in trying to make a difference if I
can. I believe Apple still has a commitment to accessibility and that there
are probably reasons why they couldn't fix these bugs when iOS 8 was
released. The new iOS goes with new devices and there is probably so much
more involved in such a release than we'll ever know and it's unlikely they
can simply push it back by a month or 2.

OK, that's my last post regarding this topic so, Pablo, as I said before,
continue with iOS 7.1.2 and decide for yourself when you feel it's safe to
upgrade or maybe skip iOS 8 altogether and see what people say about iOS 9.
If you are so convinced that accessibility in iOS will continue to get worse
than I would totally encourage you to buy an Android phone and see if Google
listens better when you tell them about the bugs in their OS which I have no
doubt exist.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.

Sieghard
If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your
life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve
the IOs8 quality either. Maybe you are protecting your own business now, but
one year ago, I said the same things that now the people on the  list, and
around the world is saying. Apple is abusing.
But if you continue on that position, next year this issue is going to be
worse, not better. Business doesn't work like this.
They want the money of the customers, if they don't receive our money, they
need to improve their products, to make it fancy  or attractive for us.
They will not improve IOs 8  quality, or accessibility quality, if we looks
so happy with their job. When you every year pay almost a thousand of
dollars for one new apple phone, it means that you are happy with what ever
they have done. Again, I am not talking about only about blind people. I am
talking about every body, because you and every body here, been blind,  is
people, right?
Ok, it is my point. Many times, we run to the apple store, to buy what ever
they put on their desks. They are making money with our money. But we are
getting a lot of problems with their IOs releases every year. What is the
solution?
Run and buy a new iPhone every year?
Get the IOs bugs, and wait until apple developers fix 

RE: Light detector doesn't work for me either

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
Well I did allow it to use the camera first time I tried to use it.
Hopefully the next update will fix it.  Meanwhile I have to find a battery
for my old stand-alone light detector.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Light detector doesn't work for me either

I think this might just be another bug in iOS 8. I read that this one also
affects sighted users and it seems that some apps just randomly can't access
the camera even though they are allowed to. The good news is that if this is
not isolated to Voiceover then a fix will probably be more likely to come
sooner rather than later.
I would try the following:

1. Turn off Camera in Privacy for Light Detector, then delete the app.
2. Throw everything out of the app switcher and reboot your phone, i.e. turn
it off completely, wait 30 seconds and turn it on again.
3. Download the app again from the App Store and hopefully when you open it
the first time you will be prompted to allow the app to use the camera and
it will then work.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Light detector doesn't work for me either

Money Reader is fine for me, but Light Detector is not.  Thanks 
for the suggestion, but it was already allowed to use the camera.  
And, when I turned
off allowing Light Detector to use the camera and then opened 
that app again, it just closed, even when I tried with a restart 
of the phone.
 - Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:49:56 -0700
Subject: RE: Light detector doesn't work for me either

Both Money Reader and Light Detector work, maybe it's just that 
they are not
allowed to use the Camera and of course they have to use the 
camera in order
to work.  Go to Settings, Privacy and Camera, then check if they 
are allowed
to u se the camera.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
Of Anna Byrne
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Light detector doesn't work for me either

And it's on the screen beside Money Reader, which doesn't work 
either.
Rats!
At 08:21 AM 9/28/2014, you wrote:
Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02?  
It is
something that with as many family members some in the turn off 
and on
lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used 
regularly and
right now I can't get it to work.

Money reader does work.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
Of Kevin Wassmer
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: issues I have with the new update.

Hello folks.  I usually don't post on
here much.  However, I am very displeased with Apple.  For a 
company that is
very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple.  I am extremely
disappointed.  I just might let them know this.  First, when a 
person dials a
number manually with voice-over, the numbers stick.  I don't know 
if this is
fixed in IOS 8.02 or not.  Second, I use my blue tooth keyboard a 
lot.  Now
my
key board does not type or activate items with Voice-over.  I can 
navigate
on
the screen.  But not type or activate items.  On previous updates 
the issues
mentioned above didn't exist.  I took my iPhone to the Apple 
store and they
couldn't figure out the issue.  I am not mad at the technicians 
at the
store.
I am upset with the developers of Apple.  They should know 
better.  Also
what's this crap of them updating the software and then having 
the cell
phone service not working.  If apple keeps this bull crap going 
on they will
lose customer such as myself who have grown to love Apple 
products.  I might
email apple and let them know this.  If Apple continues to do 
foolish things
like this on their updates, then I will switch to a droid.  What 
a sad day
that would be.  What do you all think?
--
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kevinwass...@gmail.com
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RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
Link came back with 403, page not found.  


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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First
Impressions

As far as resetting the password for an Apple Id, I wouldn't be surprised if
Apple had something in place for situations like this where somebody passes
away and a spouse needs to get access. I would call Apple and ask. A quick
Google search yielded this article:

http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/apple/access-itunes-account-music-apps-afte
r-death-3507255/


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First
Impressions

I think if one had access to his old email account, you could reset his
Apple ID and be able to wipe it from iCloud, unless he used questions you
don't have answers to.

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From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First
Impressions


LOL, isn't it fun?  Not!.  I can do well from my computer, typing on the 6
since it is larger is a bit of a challenge but doing so on the IPad is
really the challenge, I keep hiding the keyboard when I want to hit the
return key which does not help me at all.  Since the storm last  night kept
me up, I tried to set up keychain on the iPad, got stuck then finally got
the less with the code, but I am and always have been terrible at numbers,
so I had to work at it six times before I managed to remember the number and
get it input correctly.

I can't figure out the fingerprint thing at all it seems and when I called
my cell a while ago the iPad did not allow me to answer but I did not see a
choice for that under the Handoff settings.  Since I am upset about my
cousin and a bit angry with her too, did not sleep last night for more than
half an hour before thunder cracked right over my bed, or it sounded like it
anyway I could be missing things.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First
Impressions

Hi rose,
If you go to the BARD main page there is a previously downloaded link where
you can find past books and add them to your wish list.
I just got a iPhone 6from the apple store in Chandler. I've been entering
and changing passwords for the last three hours.


Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:

 Well, I went for it big time.  When I got to Verizon they had one 
 iPhone 6
left, 128 GB which was above what I need but it was the same price as the 64
and while I was there since I changed to the Edge plan (next year I have
another new phone) plus well it just sounded okay with me.  Then I was
offered a case, I went with Otterbox, of course, And some other device, one
was Bose Bluetooth speakers.  In addition the man told us the android
tablets were free because I bought a new iPhone, so my cousin who has wanted
one for a while got it set up for her.  I came home, had a difficult time
finding the place to plug in the lightning cable first I knew it was on the
bottom and figured the case was covering it, I found that but then I have
never been particularly good with the cable on my iPad so.  Finally got
iTunes up restored all my apps.

 Sadly I lost all my Bard books and I don't always remember what I had
planned to read.  I see access to my iBook's is still there but Read2go is
empty and I have not looked at Audible just yet.

 Then, because I had to give my apple Password at Verizon I decided to
change it.  Finally got there and I can't tell you how many times it told me
it was either not strong, did not a capital letter or that they did not
match.  I know it is security but it is a true drag if I have no clue what
it is.

 My 4s went for trade, but my late Husband's 5 they would not take 
 because
it had not been wiped and I tried the passwords he often used but I can't
get into his phone, have no clue what he was using, probably something to
keep me out, only because I put a Diabetes app on his phone (at his request
no less) when he was sleeping.  The upshot is it is a brick to me, they
can't turn off the find my iPhone without being able to access his account
and based on the trouble I had this evening with my own password, I can't
imagine how to fix it so I can take it back to them.  I suppose I could use
his apple ID.  Say I forgot the password and change it provided I 

RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
I only wish that you could delete a bunch of messages at once,.  The other day 
while at the bank we were waiting for a verification e-mail on an account and 
when I went to see if it had arrived yet I got 200 messages most of which I had 
seen before.  The verification was at the top but I sure did not need 200 
message.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

Yes, you can delete individual notifications this way, e.g. if you have mail 
notifications set to show the 5 most recent messages then you can swipe down 
and double tap to delete each one, but you have to do it 5 times to clear the 
entire section. If you want to clear the section all at once you can still do 
so using the “Confirm Clear Section” button as it has been described before, 
either double tap and then double tap again or triple tap once.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Victor Hugo Gallegos
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

You can now swipe down with one finger to delete  your notifications, just like 
you can with  email, and text messages.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2014, at 7:01 AM, Tom Rash dadinthed...@verizon.net wrote:

Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not 
work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still 
nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot 
confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2

 

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RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Alia,

You shouldn't have said this about not being able to buy an Android phone
off the shelf and not being able to use it. I bet you'll get a bunch of
replies from Android users on this list who will tell you that Android has
very good built-in accessibility and that the upcoming new Android release
is supposed to be even better. I absolutely think that is fantastic and I
absolutely hope Android accessibility improves further because competition
is a good thing. I will, however, stick with iOS because I am invested in
their eco system both with apps and other devices and feel it's still a
superior and more importantly a more secure platform. 


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of alia robinson
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update.

The only way to improve products is to use them and report bugs when we find
them, as stated before if every person using accessibility stopped buying it
wouldn't make not a single bit of difference, and apple isn't making money
off accessibility; they could just stop doing it, period. I can't go in and
buy an android phone off the shelf and use it. I can't buy a windows
computer right off the shelf and use it. I can with apple, and no they don't
have to do it at all. The only way to improve things is from within, and
refusing to buy will do nothing for accessibility. 

Alia
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Sieghard
 If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving
your
 life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve
 the IOs8 quality either. Maybe you are protecting your own business now,
but
 one year ago, I said the same things that now the people on the  list, and
 around the world is saying. Apple is abusing.
 But if you continue on that position, next year this issue is going to be
 worse, not better. Business doesn't work like this.
 They want the money of the customers, if they don't receive our money,
they
 need to improve their products, to make it fancy  or attractive for us.
 They will not improve IOs 8  quality, or accessibility quality, if we
looks
 so happy with their job. When you every year pay almost a thousand of
 dollars for one new apple phone, it means that you are happy with what
ever
 they have done. Again, I am not talking about only about blind people. I
am
 talking about every body, because you and every body here, been blind,  is
 people, right?
 Ok, it is my point. Many times, we run to the apple store, to buy what
ever
 they put on their desks. They are making money with our money. But we are
 getting a lot of problems with their IOs releases every year. What is the
 solution?
 Run and buy a new iPhone every year?
 Get the IOs bugs, and wait until apple developers fix their bugs?
 Be patience with apple?
 They are patience with the customers?
 Are you paying them little bit by little bit, or you have to pay
everything
 on one time, or you have to sign a contract for 2 or 3 years with who ever
 sales iPhones?
 Why we have to be patience??
 No, of course no.

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RE: What happened to the native weather app?

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
I too would like to see humidity wind speed etc. without having to
necessarily read a 9-day forecast which, usually is not correct.  


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Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What happened to the native weather app?

They are using data from the weather channel rather than yahoo. I
prefer the new app because it includes the hourly forcast and goes up
to nine days.

On 9/28/14, Holly Anderson dhsho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi chuck, the info you want is still there, scroll down past the daily
 forecasts and it is at the bottom.  This confused me at first as well, as
I
 really liked having access to that information.
 HTH
 Holly
 On Sep 28, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Chuck Dean cadean...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 On my iPhone six, the weather app no longer works as it did on my iPhone
 4s. I used to be able to double tap on the screen when my city was up,
and
 it would give me humidity and wind report. But that no longer works. Does
 anybody know how to fix this?

 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

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Ios 8 voiceover issue with Google Youtube app

2014-09-29 Thread Russ Kiehne
Has anyone run across the following issue?  I'm using an ipod touch 5th 
generation.

When flicking through the search results I keep hearing voiceover on.
Once and a while when playing a video, i hear voiceover on.

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RE: KNFB reader rocks!

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Tilt Guidance is a simple on/off toggle (with a double tap) and it's right
there on the main screen.


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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB reader rocks!

I had better luck than I have ever head also.  
Where does one find the tilt in KNFB, I know it has to be there but I can't
find it, and don't have time to listen to the podcast again.  


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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!

I've had good luck reading things with this app, even on my 4S, 
more luck than with any other app I have purchased, or with the 
KNFB Reader on the Nokia N 82, for that matter.  Oh, I'm not 
claiming that it is perfect by any means; but, for my purposes of 
sorting my mail and the like, I am able to get good enough 
results to get the job done to my satisfaction.

 - Original Message -
From: Shirley listm...@eircom.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:01:39 +0100
Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!

Is it worth the money then? 99 dollars seems an awful lot of 
money to pay
for an ap.
But if it works, I wouldnt mind paying.
Shirley

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB reader rocks!


Hi all,
I am having lunch at my local sandwich shop.  They have a menu 
mounted on the
wall behind the cash register.
I took a picture of the menu...  Worked pretty well!



Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

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Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread alia robinson
I still don't think it's usable off the shelf, but that's just me. Nothing 
comes close to the iphone for being able to buy and go, and the reason I am on 
an iphone list is because I firmly believe that still. If I wanted to bash 
idevices I would go to an android list and do so; I am here to make it easier 
for myself and others to use these phones, not complain that we should all stop 
buying them. I frankly don't see the point of coming to a list for iphone 
support and doing that. 

Alia
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Alia,
 
 You shouldn't have said this about not being able to buy an Android phone
 off the shelf and not being able to use it. I bet you'll get a bunch of
 replies from Android users on this list who will tell you that Android has
 very good built-in accessibility and that the upcoming new Android release
 is supposed to be even better. I absolutely think that is fantastic and I
 absolutely hope Android accessibility improves further because competition
 is a good thing. I will, however, stick with iOS because I am invested in
 their eco system both with apps and other devices and feel it's still a
 superior and more importantly a more secure platform. 

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Re: Ios 8 voiceover issue with Google Youtube app

2014-09-29 Thread alia robinson
Your VO is crashing and turning back on. I think the ipods do that a lot. 

Alia
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone run across the following issue?  I'm using an ipod touch 5th 
 generation.
  
 When flicking through the search results I keep hearing voiceover on.
 Once and a while when playing a video, i hear voiceover on.

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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Rash
Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

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Hi Tom,

 

As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
course it won't work.

 

For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not
work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still
nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot
confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2

 



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RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Rose,

OK, this was a pretty long link and it wrapped. I shortened it so try this
link to get to the article:

http://tinyurl.com/pgeahph


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First
Impressions

Link came back with 403, page not found.  


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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First
Impressions

As far as resetting the password for an Apple Id, I wouldn't be surprised if
Apple had something in place for situations like this where somebody passes
away and a spouse needs to get access. I would call Apple and ask. A quick
Google search yielded this article:

http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/apple/access-itunes-account-music-apps-afte
r-death-3507255/


Regards,
Sieghard

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Impressions

I think if one had access to his old email account, you could reset his
Apple ID and be able to wipe it from iCloud, unless he used questions you
don't have answers to.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: I say that you should go for it - Re: KNFB Reader, First
Impressions


LOL, isn't it fun?  Not!.  I can do well from my computer, typing on the 6
since it is larger is a bit of a challenge but doing so on the IPad is
really the challenge, I keep hiding the keyboard when I want to hit the
return key which does not help me at all.  Since the storm last  night kept
me up, I tried to set up keychain on the iPad, got stuck then finally got
the less with the code, but I am and always have been terrible at numbers,
so I had to work at it six times before I managed to remember the number and
get it input correctly.

I can't figure out the fingerprint thing at all it seems and when I called
my cell a while ago the iPad did not allow me to answer but I did not see a
choice for that under the Handoff settings.  Since I am upset about my
cousin and a bit angry with her too, did not sleep last night for more than
half an hour before thunder cracked right over my bed, or it sounded like it
anyway I could be missing things.


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Impressions

Hi rose,
If you go to the BARD main page there is a previously downloaded link where
you can find past books and add them to your wish list.
I just got a iPhone 6from the apple store in Chandler. I've been entering
and changing passwords for the last three hours.


Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:

 Well, I went for it big time.  When I got to Verizon they had one 
 iPhone 6
left, 128 GB which was above what I need but it was the same price as the 64
and while I was there since I changed to the Edge plan (next year I have
another new phone) plus well it just sounded okay with me.  Then I was
offered a case, I went with Otterbox, of course, And some other device, one
was Bose Bluetooth speakers.  In addition the man told us the android
tablets were free because I bought a new iPhone, so my cousin who has wanted
one for a while got it set up for her.  I came home, had a difficult time
finding the place to plug in the lightning cable first I knew it was on the
bottom and figured the case was covering it, I found that but then I have
never been particularly good with the cable on my iPad so.  Finally got
iTunes up restored all my apps.

 Sadly I lost all my Bard books and I don't always remember what I had
planned to read.  I see access to my iBook's is still there but Read2go is
empty and I have not looked at Audible just yet.

 Then, because I had to give my apple Password at Verizon I decided to
change it.  Finally got there and I can't tell you how many times it told me
it was either not strong, did not a capital letter or that they did not
match.  I know it is security but it is a true drag if I have no clue what
it is.

 My 4s went for trade, but my late Husband's 5 they would not take 
 because
it had not been wiped and I tried the passwords he often used but I can't
get into his phone, have no clue what he was using, probably something to
keep me 

Re: KNFB reader rocks!

2014-09-29 Thread Devin
That's truly amazing! I'll love to use it when I get my iPhone 6 or 6-plus. 

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 29, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 Well worth the money, I managed to get a whole page without any stand,
 without missing letters, and I could never do that with Prizmo or the other
 apps.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Shirley
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:02 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 Is it worth the money then? 99 dollars seems an awful lot of money to pay 
 for an ap.
 But if it works, I wouldnt mind paying.
 Shirley
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Chuck Dean
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 
 Hi all,
 I am having lunch at my local sandwich shop. They have a menu mounted on the
 
 wall behind the cash register.
 I took a picture of the menu... Worked pretty well!
 
 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Tim Emmons
I tested yesterday and just saw this so need to look back at the thread, but my 
airplay is definitely not reliable on both an iPhone 5S, or an iPad Mini 
running 8. Not sure what's up. I'll have to look at it closer but something's 
definitely not right with it. 
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 Oh that will seriously suck if airplay is messed up. I will have to test it 
 on the spouse's iPhone 5S if I dare, Laughs!
  
 
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Re: Pickers Not Working for Me in iOS8.0.2 and Safari

2014-09-29 Thread Isaac Hebert
No I am not experiencing problems with the pickers. 
I just did a test with the picker on the applevis website and not noticing any 
problems.
Isaac Hebert
hebertisaa...@gmail.com



On Sep 29, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 Hi, all,
 
 When I find a drop-down in Safari that says pop-up button and try to 
 activate it, I notice the form controls at the bottom of the screen for 
 previous and next, but no picker. Is anyone else experiencing this or finding 
 a way around it?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi merv,

 

When you say it doesn't work, do you mean you don't get an Airplay option at
the bottom right of the Control Centre or that it works, but Voiceover goes
to the Apple TV as well?

 

Regards,

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The 5S does not work with the Apple TV under IOS 8 and Airplay.

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tim,

 

Could you check it again and be a bit more specific, e.g. what Airplay
device do you have and when you say not reliable do you mean the Airplay
button doesn't always show up or that Voiceover goes to your Airplay device
rather than staying on the iPhone or iPad?

I am trying to get a sense as to what exactly is going on but it's important
to specify the exact iDevice model and what Airplay device and what exactly
is working, not working or not reliable.

 

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

 

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Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I tested yesterday and just saw this so need to look back at the thread, but
my airplay is definitely not reliable on both an iPhone 5S, or an iPad Mini
running 8. Not sure what's up. I'll have to look at it closer but
something's definitely not right with it. 

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Oh that will seriously suck if airplay is messed up. I will have to test it
on the spouse's iPhone 5S if I dare, Laughs!

 

 

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LookTel Money Reader in IOS 8

2014-09-29 Thread Karl Smith
Recently I read that the Money Reader isn't working in IOS 8. I saw some
work arounds posted here but I wonder if anyone has gotten it to work. This
week end I worked on a friends 5S with IOS 8 and found that no matter what I
did the Money Reader would start but the camera wouldn't open. I checked in
settings to see that the camera was set to on but no go. Is there really a
way to get this to work or does she have to wait for an update from LookTel?
Thanks.

 

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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Tom,

Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
a bit and it registers as a swipe?

Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.

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Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

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Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,

 

As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
course it won't work.

 

For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not
work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still
nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot
confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2

 



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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Rash
Double tap has always worked in the past.  I've had an iPhone for quite a
while, so am pretty familiar with the jestures.  I'll try a split finger
jesture and see what happens.  And, yes, I swipe to the confirmation button.

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Tom,

Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
a bit and it registers as a swipe?

Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.

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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,

 

As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
course it won't work.

 

For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not
work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still
nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot
confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2

 



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RE: LookTel Money Reader in IOS 8

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Karl,

 

This seems to be one of these random problems with iOS 8. Both Money Reader
and Light Detector are working fine for me. I have been running iOS 8
starting with Beta 1 in June and both apps always have orked. I did a new
install of iOS 8 last week and both apps still work. I believe there is a
camera bug which affects not only Voiceover users so this would probably be
more something Apple has to fix rather than an issue with LookTel Money
Reader or Light Detector. I heard this on the Today in iOS podcast, but when
I just did a quick Google search I couldn't find too much except I found one
thread from a Skype forum where people were reporting they got a black
screen when trying to do a video call from their iPads (of various
generations) so this sounds similar. I would definitely write to
accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accessibil...@apple.com  to report this.

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: LookTel Money Reader in IOS 8

 

Recently I read that the Money Reader isn't working in IOS 8. I saw some
work arounds posted here but I wonder if anyone has gotten it to work. This
week end I worked on a friends 5S with IOS 8 and found that no matter what I
did the Money Reader would start but the camera wouldn't open. I checked in
settings to see that the camera was set to on but no go. Is there really a
way to get this to work or does she have to wait for an update from LookTel?
Thanks.

 

Karl

 

 

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Re: LookTel Money Reader in IOS 8

2014-09-29 Thread Feliciano G
Is money reader on under privacy , camer?

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 end I worked on a friends 5S with IOS 8 and found that no matter what I did 
 the Money Reader would start but the camera wouldn’t open. I checked in 
 settings to see that the camera was set to on but no go. Is there really a 
 way to get this to work or does she have to wait for an update from LookTel? 
 Thanks.
  
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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Rash
I don't use the split tap very much.  I did put my finger on the confirm
button and touched on the screen with another.  I assume this is the right
jesture for split tap.  Still no go.  I can delete individually.  Just
wondering why, for me, the use of the confirm button no longer works since
IOS 8. 
One more thing, if described above is the correct way to use split finger
jesture, it doesn't work for anything.  Tried to open other apps using that
jesture and nothing.  Do you think something in settings could account for
these results?
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Tom,

Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
a bit and it registers as a swipe?

Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,

 

As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
course it won't work.

 

For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not
work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still
nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot
confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2

 



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Re: Moderator reminder about message archives

2014-09-29 Thread Lea Langley
Hi, and thank you very very much for the offer of help with the archives. I 
would love to have help with the archive please thank you God bless, Wren 
Langley

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Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread David Chittenden
Yes,, and it is very ingeresting that Apple's iPhone set the new record for 
number of phones sold during the first weekend at 10 million phones. The 
previous record was set last year at 4 or 5 million phones during the first 
weekend by, u, Apple.

Yes, this is a product line that is experiencing quite a lot of problems and 
frustrations by their customers.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Sep 2014, at 19:50, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, it is right. But remember that are many many sighted people no very
 happy with iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+. Do not think that we are the problem. No,
 every body is getting problems with IOs8, and many other issues with the
 hardware of iPhone 6, and iPhone 6+. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.
 
 Pablo,
 
 Whether we give money to Apple by buying iPhones will make no difference, I
 mean zero.
 Apple sold over ten million iPhones during the launch weekend, I think it
 was something like 4 million during the first 24 hours of when preorders
 were available on the internet. This also does not include China where the
 iPhone 6 and 6 Plus have not yet been released and where Apple will sell a
 ton of new iPhones once they become available.
 Do you really think that even if 50,000 were bought by blind or visually
 impaired people that would make a dent? Based on 10 million that would be
 0.5% and I bet that the number of phones bought by blind people is much
 smaller.
 By the way, anybody who buys a new 5S now will get it with iOS 8
 preinstalled, just because it is last year's phone doesn't mean Apple will
 ship it with last year's iOS.
 Anybody who has an iPhone of course can choose to stay with iOS 7.1.2, but
 anybody who is in the market for an iPhone now whether a 5S, 6 or 6 Plus
 will have to deal with iOS 8. I also think that Apple does listen. Yes, they
 haven't listened a lot I think during the Beta cycle to the few blind people
 who submitted Voiceover related bug reports, but I have no doubt that iOS 8
 Voiceover bugs will be addressed and saying that Apple does not listen is
 just not true.
 Whether things will be worse when iOS 9 is release remains to be seen,
 claiming it will be worse at this point is nothing but a claim or guess
 which can't be substantiated.
 Enjoy iOS 7.1.2, I think it was an excellent choice not to update and I'm
 sure if you keep checking the list you'll hear all about it when bugs are
 fixed.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.
 
 Nope, are another solution. Keep IOs 7.1.2, and do not upgrade to IOs8, like
 this, no bugs will be doing anything in your iDevice. If you don't have and
 iPhone, do not buy any iPhone 6s or iPhone 6. Just buy an iPhone 5s, that is
 cheaper, and with IOs 7.1.2. The blind community is been very affected with
 these bugs, and apple is paying to us the same attention that walmart does
 when a blind person make complain about the traffic in the stores. I mean,
 nothing.
 We have the solution. We have the money that they want, we have it in our
 pockets. We have the power. Do not give them money, until they have a good
 thing to offert to us. Because if we give the money before they do anything,
 probably, they will not do anything, or not what we want really.
 I know that they people who has business with apple, is going to defend
 apple. Even though, one year ago I said the same thing that today the most
 part of the list is saying.
 Let me tell you one more thing. Next year, this issue is going to be worse.
 Unless we stop giving money to someone who is not doing good things, and
 keep the good things that we had before. Like iPhone 5s with IOs 7.1.2, or
 our old 4s, etc.
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of RobH.
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:41 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update.
 
 Sadder when you spend all that extra money, and find some of the irritations
 and limitations of a'droid.
 
 Agree, those iOs bugs are bad!..   some have managed to work around and live
 
 with them,  while they're fixed.
 
 JMO, R.
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 From: Kevin Wassmer kevinwass...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:03 AM
 Subject: issues I have with the new update.
 
 
 Hello folks. I usually don't post on
 here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is
 very Reputable, I expect 

iOS 8 and twitter apps

2014-09-29 Thread Wayne Merritt
Greetings all. Got my iPhone 6 64 GB Friday and have been playing with
it this weekend. I have been using TweetList 4 forever but noticed
that when I load it on the iPhone 6, tweets and who they are from are
not read correctly. So, I'm looking for another twitter app. I tried
the native Twitter app but got errors related to my password, even
though when I entered my Twitter password in other apps it worked
fine. I downloaded Twitterrific 5, which I had previously purchased,
yesterday and it seems to be working fine. I have had issues with
Twitterrific remembering my place before, but it seems to be working
good so far. Any ideas? Running iOS 8.0.2 on an iPhone 6.

Thanks,
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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tom,

You do perform a 1-finger double tap twice on the same Confirm Clear Section
button, right? Doing it once doesn't do it, you have to do it once and then
again.
As for split tap, no problem here, I can put my finger on an app and tap the
screen with a second finger and the app opens up.
No, there is no setting regarding the split tap. Have you tried to reboot
your phone?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

I don't use the split tap very much.  I did put my finger on the confirm
button and touched on the screen with another.  I assume this is the right
jesture for split tap.  Still no go.  I can delete individually.  Just
wondering why, for me, the use of the confirm button no longer works since
IOS 8. 
One more thing, if described above is the correct way to use split finger
jesture, it doesn't work for anything.  Tried to open other apps using that
jesture and nothing.  Do you think something in settings could account for
these results?
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Tom,

Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
a bit and it registers as a swipe?

Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,

 

As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
course it won't work.

 

For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not
work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still
nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot
confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2

 



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Re: iOS 8 and twitter apps

2014-09-29 Thread Isaac Hebert
When you say you are trying to get twitterific to remember wheir you left off 
are you trying to get it to remember the tweet you were last reading?

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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Rash
Rebooted several times.. No go.  Also, my mistake, the split tap does work
for apps but not to open folders, which may be normal.  As I mentioned, I
normally don't use that jesture.  The confirmation thing is not a real
problem.  Something that will probably get fixed.  Just was wondering if it
was a known bug.  I sent the info to accessibil...@apple.com.  Do you
normally get some sort of confirmation from them insuring that they got the
message?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,

You do perform a 1-finger double tap twice on the same Confirm Clear Section
button, right? Doing it once doesn't do it, you have to do it once and then
again.
As for split tap, no problem here, I can put my finger on an app and tap the
screen with a second finger and the app opens up.
No, there is no setting regarding the split tap. Have you tried to reboot
your phone?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

I don't use the split tap very much.  I did put my finger on the confirm
button and touched on the screen with another.  I assume this is the right
jesture for split tap.  Still no go.  I can delete individually.  Just
wondering why, for me, the use of the confirm button no longer works since
IOS 8. 
One more thing, if described above is the correct way to use split finger
jesture, it doesn't work for anything.  Tried to open other apps using that
jesture and nothing.  Do you think something in settings could account for
these results?
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Tom,

Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
a bit and it registers as a swipe?

Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,

 

As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
course it won't work.

 

For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not
work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still
nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot
confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2

 



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bug with answering calls help

2014-09-29 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi all,

Could anyone produce the bug with answering calls with 2 finger double-tap 
starting music playback consistently? 
I had it once with tunein radio and let apple know. Now they want more info not 
being able to reproduce it but I did not always get it either. 
Anyone that has more info on or off list for me that i can pass on to Apple 
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Re: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
I iPod Touch 5G, and when I double-tap twice on the confirm clear area, nothing 
happens. This is consistent after several reboots in iOS8.0.2. I have to use 
the action rotor item to delete each notification.

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 You do perform a 1-finger double tap twice on the same Confirm Clear Section
 button, right? Doing it once doesn't do it, you have to do it once and then
 again.
 As for split tap, no problem here, I can put my finger on an app and tap the
 screen with a second finger and the app opens up.
 No, there is no setting regarding the split tap. Have you tried to reboot
 your phone?
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tom Rash
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:22 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 I don't use the split tap very much.  I did put my finger on the confirm
 button and touched on the screen with another.  I assume this is the right
 jesture for split tap.  Still no go.  I can delete individually.  Just
 wondering why, for me, the use of the confirm button no longer works since
 IOS 8. 
 One more thing, if described above is the correct way to use split finger
 jesture, it doesn't work for anything.  Tried to open other apps using that
 jesture and nothing.  Do you think something in settings could account for
 these results?
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:05 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 Tom,
 
 Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
 a bit and it registers as a swipe?
 
 Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
 by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
 awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
 did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
 tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
 then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tom Rash
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
 is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
 and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
 thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
 second click, but confirm section is still there. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 
 
 As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
 tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
 again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
 sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
 notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
 tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
 but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
 course it won't work.
 
 
 
 For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
 tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
 post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tom Rash
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 
 
 Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not
 work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still
 nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot
 confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Isaac Hebert
I am using an iPhone 5  and when I open notification and when I use the confirm 
 clear section button and double tap it the notifications go away. 
and 
Isaac Hebert
hebertisaa...@gmail.com



On Sep 29, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 I iPod Touch 5G, and when I double-tap twice on the confirm clear area, 
 nothing happens. This is consistent after several reboots in iOS8.0.2. I have 
 to use the action rotor item to delete each notification.
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
 the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 You do perform a 1-finger double tap twice on the same Confirm Clear Section
 button, right? Doing it once doesn't do it, you have to do it once and then
 again.
 As for split tap, no problem here, I can put my finger on an app and tap the
 screen with a second finger and the app opens up.
 No, there is no setting regarding the split tap. Have you tried to reboot
 your phone?
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tom Rash
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:22 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 I don't use the split tap very much.  I did put my finger on the confirm
 button and touched on the screen with another.  I assume this is the right
 jesture for split tap.  Still no go.  I can delete individually.  Just
 wondering why, for me, the use of the confirm button no longer works since
 IOS 8. 
 One more thing, if described above is the correct way to use split finger
 jesture, it doesn't work for anything.  Tried to open other apps using that
 jesture and nothing.  Do you think something in settings could account for
 these results?
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:05 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 Tom,
 
 Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
 a bit and it registers as a swipe?
 
 Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
 by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
 awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
 did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
 tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
 then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tom Rash
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
 is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
 and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
 thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
 second click, but confirm section is still there. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 
 
 As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
 tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
 again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
 sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
 notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
 tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
 but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
 course it won't work.
 
 
 
 For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
 tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
 post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tom Rash
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Notification center, anyone having this problem?
 
 
 
 Clear section.  I get the confirm clear section, but double tapping does not
 work.  It was mentioned here to double tap again or tripple tap.  Still
 nothing.  It was mentioned here It was a labelling problem, but I cannot
 confirm clear section.  Using iPhone 5 S on IOS 80.10.2
 
 
 
 
 
 Image 

RE: bug with answering calls help

2014-09-29 Thread Jerry Mader
Yes I got it yesterday.
I found that when the screen is in a different app it tends to bring up
music if calls are received. This is true as well if the screen is locked
for my Four S.
Jerry Mader 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bug with answering calls help

Hi all,

Could anyone produce the bug with answering calls with 2 finger double-tap
starting music playback consistently? 
I had it once with tunein radio and let apple know. Now they want more info
not being able to reproduce it but I did not always get it either. 
Anyone that has more info on or off list for me that i can pass on to Apple
would be  very appreciated. 
Best,

Ioana




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Re: Ios 8 voiceover issue with Google Youtube app

2014-09-29 Thread Russ Kiehne
Well, I’ll send a report on this issue to Apple Accessibility.

From: alia robinson 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Ios 8 voiceover issue with Google Youtube app

Your VO is crashing and turning back on. I think the ipods do that a lot.  

Alia

  On Sep 29, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

  Has anyone run across the following issue?  I'm using an ipod touch 5th 
generation.

  When flicking through the search results I keep hearing voiceover on.
  Once and a while when playing a video, i hear voiceover on.

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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Rash
Thanks for confirming that it is not just me.  When you get a chance, report
it to accessibil...@apple.com
Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

I iPod Touch 5G, and when I double-tap twice on the confirm clear area,
nothing happens. This is consistent after several reboots in iOS8.0.2. I
have to use the action rotor item to delete each notification.

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:



Hi Tom,

You do perform a 1-finger double tap twice on the same Confirm Clear
Section
button, right? Doing it once doesn't do it, you have to do it once
and then
again.
As for split tap, no problem here, I can put my finger on an app and
tap the
screen with a second finger and the app opens up.
No, there is no setting regarding the split tap. Have you tried to
reboot
your phone?

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

I don't use the split tap very much.  I did put my finger on the
confirm
button and touched on the screen with another.  I assume this is the
right
jesture for split tap.  Still no go.  I can delete individually.
Just
wondering why, for me, the use of the confirm button no longer works
since
IOS 8. 
One more thing, if described above is the correct way to use split
finger
jesture, it doesn't work for anything.  Tried to open other apps
using that
jesture and nothing.  Do you think something in settings could
account for
these results?
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Tom,

Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your
finger
a bit and it registers as a swipe?

Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you
find it
by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and
it's
awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger
there and
did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another
split
tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping
to it and
then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most
efficient way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular
situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I
double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the
same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and
then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,



As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you
double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to
double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap
then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if
you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a
second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then
of
course it won't work.



For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but
double
tapping and double tapping again also 

Re: the stuck number bug when dialing a number

2014-09-29 Thread Paul Ferrara

I now see that pressing that same tone does work; thank you.
Better than restarting the phone which I did last time.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the stuck number bug when dialing a number

I have found that pressing the tone that is sticking again will make it 
stop.


Hope this helps,
Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley mistydbrad...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I have experienced the stuck number bug myself, both while dialing a 
number and while inputting numbers in an automated system. At first, 
closing the phone app worked, but now, I am finding that I have to restart 
the entire phone to get the tones to stop. I hope Apple fixes this bug 
soon, as it is very frustrating to dial numbers!

Misty


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the stuck number bug when dialing a number

I think you're confusing two different bugs. Switching keyboards is the
work around needed to fix issues with the bluetooth keyboard support. I
think for the stuck numbers bug you can try removing the phone app from
your app switcher. I haven't hit either of these bugs yet myself, so you
might be best waiting for someone else to weigh in or checking the list
archives.


On 09/28/2014 05:01 PM, Paul wrote:
All, I thought I remember hearing that you can get rid of the stuck
numbers bug by switching keyboards?
Is this right, and if so, what do you switch to and where do you
accomplish this?
Thanks.
Paul

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RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pinky
Hi Pablo,
So I take it you are going to by a Android phone next year. So after you
purchase an Android phone next year come back to the Viphone group and let
us know if it has any bugs in it and how accessible it is.

Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.

Sieghard
If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your
life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve
the IOs8 quality either. Maybe you are protecting your own business now, but
one year ago, I said the same things that now the people on the  list, and
around the world is saying. Apple is abusing.
But if you continue on that position, next year this issue is going to be
worse, not better. Business doesn't work like this.
They want the money of the customers, if they don't receive our money, they
need to improve their products, to make it fancy  or attractive for us.
They will not improve IOs 8  quality, or accessibility quality, if we looks
so happy with their job. When you every year pay almost a thousand of
dollars for one new apple phone, it means that you are happy with what ever
they have done. Again, I am not talking about only about blind people. I am
talking about every body, because you and every body here, been blind,  is
people, right?
Ok, it is my point. Many times, we run to the apple store, to buy what ever
they put on their desks. They are making money with our money. But we are
getting a lot of problems with their IOs releases every year. What is the
solution?
Run and buy a new iPhone every year?
Get the IOs bugs, and wait until apple developers fix their bugs?
Be patience with apple?
They are patience with the customers?
Are you paying them little bit by little bit, or you have to pay everything
on one time, or you have to sign a contract for 2 or 3 years with who ever
sales iPhones?
Why we have to be patience??
No, of course no.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update.

Correct, and I believe it was something like 9 people who actually reported
their iPhone bent out of several millions which were sold. I bent my iPhone
5S a few months ago but it was my own fault and if you were to really look
at what happened with those iPhone 6 Plus units that did bent you would
probably find that it also was the user's fault. Don't forget that the media
is totally out to slam Apple wherever they can so everything even if it
really is not a problem gets blown out of proportion. Apparently you are one
of those who believe everything they read online... bad idea, Pablo, you can
read anything online even many reports of people who love iOS 8 *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update.

Did you also read the Consumer Reports follow-up report where they purchased
an iPhone 6+ and tested it against sevcral other phones of the same size? 

Well, the iPhone withstood 20 pounds more pressure before starting to bend
compared with it's closest competitor. In other words, the story about Apple
being so bad did not hold up.

When you switch to Android or WINDOWS phone, please let me know how much
better the new phone choice works out for you. Which ever phone you decide
to go with, I hope it works out for you. As for me, I remain an Apple fanboy
for now.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Sep 2014, at 09:22, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well my friend. I can tell you. You are right. Apple in the last 2 
 years
has
 been doing very very bad. They are abusing of their reputation. They 
 are believing that they are enough, and they are not paying so much 
 attention
to
 the quality of their products. As I said before. My iPhone 5s, is the 
 last iPhone that I would be buy. Until apple start to be  more humble, 
 and more focus in the quality of Ios, and iPhones also. By the way, 
 today I read something online, saying that are people making complain 
 to apple, because their iPhone 6+ bends if they put the iPhone in the 
 pockets. Apple respond that their phones are created with a very high 
 quality of glass, and titanium, but any way, are people who reported 
 their
iPhones 6+, bended.
 So sad.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kevin Wassmer
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 1:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 

RE: LookTel Money Reader in IOS 8

2014-09-29 Thread Karl Smith
Yes.

 

Karl

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano G
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LookTel Money Reader in IOS 8

 

Is money reader on under privacy , camer?

  Regards, Feliciano

 

 

 

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On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Karl Smith k...@axistech.net wrote:

Recently I read that the Money Reader isn’t working in IOS 8. I saw some work 
arounds posted here but I wonder if anyone has gotten it to work. This week end 
I worked on a friends 5S with IOS 8 and found that no matter what I did the 
Money Reader would start but the camera wouldn’t open. I checked in settings to 
see that the camera was set to on but no go. Is there really a way to get this 
to work or does she have to wait for an update from LookTel? Thanks.

 

Karl

 

 

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In-Call service, what is it?

2014-09-29 Thread Jon C. Pierson
Hi,
When I am on a call using IOS8 I notice that in the App Switcher, In-Call
Service is running. It removes itself after the call is ended but I don't
remember seeing it before. Does anyone have info about this?

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Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-29 Thread David Chittenden
The only requirement to be a beta tester for iOS is 'a $99 per year developer 
account fee. Anybody can sign up and pay the fee and sign the NDA 
(non-disclosure agreement)

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Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Sep 2014, at 19:29, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 I think anybody can apply to be a tester, though there's bound to be 
 requirements, like technical skill, or adventurous enough to dig in it all 
 to really test, and feedback in a coherent way.
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message - 
 From: connie mohney conniemoh...@sbcglobal.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:42 PM
 Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products
 
 
 It is to bad apple could not hire people with different disabilities.  The 
 people could either work at apple itself or work from home.  The employees 
 from disability support could be asked to get people's contact info so those 
 people could be IOS testers.
 Connie
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com 
 wrote:
 
 One day??  That would be nowhere near long enough.  How well were you able 
 to use the iPhone after 1 day?
 
 I think that a good source of information on testing would be the people 
 who take calls on the phone number that especially for those who are 
 handicapped.  I'm thinking that they would have a better feel for our 
 difficulties in using the devices than any of the other tech reps.
 
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 - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers 
 neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 PM
 Subject: One way Apple could better test its products
 
 
 Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on 
 using VoiceOver. I don't mean that sarcastically, but I do remember when 
 Microsoft touted Internet Explorer as being able to be operated totally 
 with keyboard shortcuts without touching the mouse. I know, it's not the 
 same thing, but I think people who want to develop products for people 
 with differing abilities should, perhaps, have to walk a while in their 
 shoes. Obviously, there are other disabilities as well, so it would mean a 
 lot of pairs of shoes, but I bet it would work better for everyone as a 
 result.
 
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Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
Oh lord.
Now the economy is handle like you said?
Buying things that are not working well, improve the quality of the product?
Where is the value of the competition in this formula?
Yes, apple as android, as many other brans has to work with the
accessibility. It is mandatory now. It is mandatory because the
government in United States is making a hard pression about it. The
problem is that all this brans doesn't have to do a good
accessibility. They have to create accessibility, how it works is
something that is going to  shown by the market. Now, if we, the blind
community every year, go to the apple store, and buy what ever apple
create, as watches, iPhones, when we are getting hard problems with
the accessibility, we are hurting our pocket, because we are buying
something that is not doing a good job. The competence in the market
is who make the good products, is not people who love a product, and
go to buy it, no matter the problems that those products has.

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RE: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

2014-09-29 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Does anyone know if speed dots is making an overlay for the IPhone 6?
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

I don't find they inhibit swiping at all, and when I'm in a situation where
I have the phone at an angle and I'm using just one hand they can help to
keep my swipes horizontal. They also help orienting yourself to the phone
and the screen and locating objects by touch. Obviously they aren't needed,
but they can be useful and they don't inhibit swiping or have any negative
side effects at all.

On 09/28/2014 08:21 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
 Tactual marks on any screen protector, I would think, would inhibit 
 swiping, so I would not want them, nor do I need them.

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 - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


 Hi.

 Now you mention screen protectors. Is there anyone who has got the 
 idea to make a screen protector with some tactile marks that would 
 allow you more easily to place your fingers correct when typing in 
 braille with mbraille or with apples new teriffic braille input.

 Best regards Annie.
 Den 29/09/2014 kl. 03.07 skrev Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com:

 iPhones aren't made with ordinary glass. They're made with Corning's 
 gorilla glass and they have additional scratch resistance added. I 
 won't say they can't be scratched, but I wouldn't say that they 
 scratch very easily either.

 I use the tactile screen protectors from SpeedDots. I find the 
 tactile feedback helps when exploring by touch and jumping straight 
 to different objects on the screen. I got the screen protector for 
 this reason and not because I was worried about scratches.

 My wife tosses her phone into her purse, and she uses both a case and 
 a screen protector, and I think she's pretty smart for doing that 
 given how she uses her phone and the fact that she doesn't want to 
 worry about it.

 I'd say whether you want to use a screen protector comes down to how 
 you use your phone. I wouldn't let anyone make you feel bad for not 
 using one or talk you into not using one if you're going to be 
 worrying about scratching your screen.

 On 09/28/2014 12:25 AM, Chuck Dean wrote:
 I do not use a case on my phone, but I always use a screen protector.
 The screen is glass, very easy to scratch, and with the screen 
 protector I can always place it face down and not have to worry 
 about it.

 I buy the Apple screen protector. On my 3GS, I tried many 
 third-party screen protectors that would fall off and were sticky. 
 The Apple screen protector, on my for ass, lasted three years. As a 
 matter fact, it's still on there.


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Re: Seeing Eye GPS App, Worth It?

2014-09-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
If your main interest is knowing where you are, I think blindsquare is 
better. However, if you want turn by turn navigation, it might be worth 
the price since blindsquare does not provide this directly, however, 
there are good main stream apps that will do this as well.

Original message:

Hi, now that the Seeing Eye GPS app has been out a while, can people 
give up-to-date impressions? Is it worth the subscription cost, or are 
there alternatives that work better and more cost-efficient? Thanks for 
your input.



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Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
They will, eventually  it is their business, though they're not very 
near the lead with things like this.

R.
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From: Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


Does anyone know if speed dots is making an overlay for the IPhone 6?
God bless!
Paula and Babe

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

I don't find they inhibit swiping at all, and when I'm in a situation where
I have the phone at an angle and I'm using just one hand they can help to
keep my swipes horizontal. They also help orienting yourself to the phone
and the screen and locating objects by touch. Obviously they aren't needed,
but they can be useful and they don't inhibit swiping or have any negative
side effects at all.

On 09/28/2014 08:21 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
 Tactual marks on any screen protector, I would think, would inhibit
 swiping, so I would not want them, nor do I need them.

 ---
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 finished, you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?


 Hi.

 Now you mention screen protectors. Is there anyone who has got the
 idea to make a screen protector with some tactile marks that would
 allow you more easily to place your fingers correct when typing in
 braille with mbraille or with apples new teriffic braille input.

 Best regards Annie.
 Den 29/09/2014 kl. 03.07 skrev Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com:

 iPhones aren't made with ordinary glass. They're made with Corning's
 gorilla glass and they have additional scratch resistance added. I
 won't say they can't be scratched, but I wouldn't say that they
 scratch very easily either.

 I use the tactile screen protectors from SpeedDots. I find the
 tactile feedback helps when exploring by touch and jumping straight
 to different objects on the screen. I got the screen protector for
 this reason and not because I was worried about scratches.

 My wife tosses her phone into her purse, and she uses both a case and
 a screen protector, and I think she's pretty smart for doing that
 given how she uses her phone and the fact that she doesn't want to
 worry about it.

 I'd say whether you want to use a screen protector comes down to how
 you use your phone. I wouldn't let anyone make you feel bad for not
 using one or talk you into not using one if you're going to be
 worrying about scratching your screen.

 On 09/28/2014 12:25 AM, Chuck Dean wrote:
 I do not use a case on my phone, but I always use a screen protector.
 The screen is glass, very easy to scratch, and with the screen
 protector I can always place it face down and not have to worry
 about it.

 I buy the Apple screen protector. On my 3GS, I tried many
 third-party screen protectors that would fall off and were sticky.
 The Apple screen protector, on my for ass, lasted three years. As a
 matter fact, it's still on there.


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Re: One way Apple could better test its products

2014-09-29 Thread RobH.
Ok, amazing, didn't know they charged for this;  though it wouldn't do the 
signal to noise ratio any good for them.  But for sure, they ought to get a 
good cross-section of end users testing it.

OT:  You wise adding real phone number on the end?  we get plagued with spam 
calls here too.

Rh.
wonder what that is in #s.

- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products


The only requirement to be a beta tester for iOS is 'a $99 per year 
developer account fee. Anybody can sign up and pay the fee and sign the NDA 
(non-disclosure agreement)

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Sep 2014, at 19:29, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I think anybody can apply to be a tester, though there's bound to be
 requirements, like technical skill, or adventurous enough to dig in it all
 to really test, and feedback in a coherent way.

 Rh.
 - Original Message - 
 From: connie mohney conniemoh...@sbcglobal.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:42 PM
 Subject: Re: One way Apple could better test its products


 It is to bad apple could not hire people with different disabilities.  The
 people could either work at apple itself or work from home.  The employees
 from disability support could be asked to get people's contact info so 
 those
 people could be IOS testers.
 Connie

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
 wrote:

 One day??  That would be nowhere near long enough.  How well were you 
 able
 to use the iPhone after 1 day?

 I think that a good source of information on testing would be the people
 who take calls on the phone number that especially for those who are
 handicapped.  I'm thinking that they would have a better feel for our
 difficulties in using the devices than any of the other tech reps.

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
 finished, you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers
 neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 PM
 Subject: One way Apple could better test its products


 Perhaps Apple employees should have to spend a day with blindfolds on
 using VoiceOver. I don't mean that sarcastically, but I do remember when
 Microsoft touted Internet Explorer as being able to be operated totally
 with keyboard shortcuts without touching the mouse. I know, it's not the
 same thing, but I think people who want to develop products for people
 with differing abilities should, perhaps, have to walk a while in their
 shoes. Obviously, there are other disabilities as well, so it would mean 
 a
 lot of pairs of shoes, but I bet it would work better for everyone as a
 result.

 Neal

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Seeing Eye Light Detector

2014-09-29 Thread Yolanda
Does not work in IOS 8 either,  it states the light is at 100% when the 
camera lens is covered.  Don't pay the 0.99 for it, like I just did. grin


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Re: KNFB reader rocks!

2014-09-29 Thread Chuck Dean
If you were on the take picture button, flick ones to the left and you will 
find a told guidance button.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 29, 2014, at 5:10 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 I had better luck than I have ever head also.  
 Where does one find the tilt in KNFB, I know it has to be there but I can't
 find it, and don't have time to listen to the podcast again.  
 
 
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 Of Vicky Collins
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:36 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 I've had good luck reading things with this app, even on my 4S, 
 more luck than with any other app I have purchased, or with the 
 KNFB Reader on the Nokia N 82, for that matter.  Oh, I'm not 
 claiming that it is perfect by any means; but, for my purposes of 
 sorting my mail and the like, I am able to get good enough 
 results to get the job done to my satisfaction.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Shirley listm...@eircom.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:01:39 +0100
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 Is it worth the money then? 99 dollars seems an awful lot of 
 money to pay
 for an ap.
 But if it works, I wouldnt mind paying.
 Shirley
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Dean
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 
 Hi all,
 I am having lunch at my local sandwich shop.  They have a menu 
 mounted on the
 wall behind the cash register.
 I took a picture of the menu...  Worked pretty well!
 
 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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Re: In-Call service, what is it?

2014-09-29 Thread Isaac Hebert
The in call service allows you to return to the  in call controls such as add 
call end call keypad and contacts. 
Instead of you having to go to the home screen and choose touch to return to 
call. 
You can now just double tap infall service and it will return  you to you're in 
call controls. 
Isaac Hebert
hebertisaa...@gmail.com



On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Jon C. Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 When I am on a call using IOS8 I notice that in the App Switcher, In-Call
 Service is running. It removes itself after the call is ended but I don't
 remember seeing it before. Does anyone have info about this?
 
 Jon
 
 
 
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Re: Just bought K and FB reader and I have some questions also opinions on what scanner app is best for reading mail would be welcome.

2014-09-29 Thread Isaac Hebert
Here is a link to the kNFB reader podcast. 
The link is here. 
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/demonstration-knfbreader-iphone
Isaac Hebert
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On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Could someone please send me the link to the NK and FB reader podcast please 
 and thank you. Also thank you very much for the help. How do I know when I 
 have enough lighting for the cayenne FB reader app? Do I need to turn any 
 extra lighting on? God bless, WrenPS I am using an iPhone five ass with the 
 iOS 8.2 update 
 
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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Usually you do get a generic response within a day or so. I sent in 2
messages last week and didn't get one.

By the way, a split tab also opens folders and I think you are the only
person for whom 2 double taps on the Confirm clear section doesn't work.
Sorry, I know that doesn't necessary help, but I haven't heard anybody else
report that this doesn't work.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Rebooted several times.. No go.  Also, my mistake, the split tap does work
for apps but not to open folders, which may be normal.  As I mentioned, I
normally don't use that jesture.  The confirmation thing is not a real
problem.  Something that will probably get fixed.  Just was wondering if it
was a known bug.  I sent the info to accessibil...@apple.com.  Do you
normally get some sort of confirmation from them insuring that they got the
message?

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,

You do perform a 1-finger double tap twice on the same Confirm Clear Section
button, right? Doing it once doesn't do it, you have to do it once and then
again.
As for split tap, no problem here, I can put my finger on an app and tap the
screen with a second finger and the app opens up.
No, there is no setting regarding the split tap. Have you tried to reboot
your phone?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

I don't use the split tap very much.  I did put my finger on the confirm
button and touched on the screen with another.  I assume this is the right
jesture for split tap.  Still no go.  I can delete individually.  Just
wondering why, for me, the use of the confirm button no longer works since
IOS 8. 
One more thing, if described above is the correct way to use split finger
jesture, it doesn't work for anything.  Tried to open other apps using that
jesture and nothing.  Do you think something in settings could account for
these results?
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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Tom,

Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
a bit and it registers as a swipe?

Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,

 

As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
course it won't work.

 

For me at least a fast one-finger triple tap also works 100%, but double
tapping and double tapping again also works. Maybe others can try this and
post feedback to see if it seems to work for everybody or not.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: 

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Pablo Even with the bugs Apple has it is still easy to use and a lot
of fun. For example I was able to take a picture of my son and it was
good enough for him to add to his instagram account. Try doing that
with the Windows phones. Yes there are bugs but IOS and voiceover are
very much useable and very powerful.

On 9/29/14, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh lord.
 Now the economy is handle like you said?
 Buying things that are not working well, improve the quality of the
 product?
 Where is the value of the competition in this formula?
 Yes, apple as android, as many other brans has to work with the
 accessibility. It is mandatory now. It is mandatory because the
 government in United States is making a hard pression about it. The
 problem is that all this brans doesn't have to do a good
 accessibility. They have to create accessibility, how it works is
 something that is going to  shown by the market. Now, if we, the blind
 community every year, go to the apple store, and buy what ever apple
 create, as watches, iPhones, when we are getting hard problems with
 the accessibility, we are hurting our pocket, because we are buying
 something that is not doing a good job. The competence in the market
 is who make the good products, is not people who love a product, and
 go to buy it, no matter the problems that those products has.

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RE: bug with answering calls help

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It happens on occasion for me, but it is definitely not consistant at least
there is no pattern I can see.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bug with answering calls help

Hi all,

Could anyone produce the bug with answering calls with 2 finger double-tap
starting music playback consistently? 
I had it once with tunein radio and let apple know. Now they want more info
not being able to reproduce it but I did not always get it either. 
Anyone that has more info on or off list for me that i can pass on to Apple
would be  very appreciated. 
Best,

Ioana




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RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Teresa,

 

I just tried this on my wife’s iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I upgraded to iOS 
8.0.2 and both doing a one-finger double tap twice or doing a one-finger triple 
tap once will clear any particular section in the Notification Center. I had 
both message notifications and a Tips app notification and I cleared the 
messages section by doing a double tap twice and then the Tips section by doing 
a triple tap once.

 

I really am not sure why this doesn’t seem to work for Tom and you and it would 
be interesting to know if others are not able to do this, either.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Cochran
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

 

I iPod Touch 5G, and when I double-tap twice on the confirm clear area, nothing 
happens. This is consistent after several reboots in iOS8.0.2. I have to use 
the action rotor item to delete each notification.

 

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hi Tom,

You do perform a 1-finger double tap twice on the same Confirm Clear Section
button, right? Doing it once doesn't do it, you have to do it once and then
again.
As for split tap, no problem here, I can put my finger on an app and tap the
screen with a second finger and the app opens up.
No, there is no setting regarding the split tap. Have you tried to reboot
your phone?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

I don't use the split tap very much.  I did put my finger on the confirm
button and touched on the screen with another.  I assume this is the right
jesture for split tap.  Still no go.  I can delete individually.  Just
wondering why, for me, the use of the confirm button no longer works since
IOS 8. 
One more thing, if described above is the correct way to use split finger
jesture, it doesn't work for anything.  Tried to open other apps using that
jesture and nothing.  Do you think something in settings could account for
these results?
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Tom,

Are you maybe not doing a perfect double tap but maybe you move your finger
a bit and it registers as a swipe?

Also, are you swiping to the Confirm Clear section button or do you find it
by exploring the screen? I just tried it by exploring the screen and it's
awefully hard to find. When I finally did find it I left my finger there and
did a split tap and then still without moving my finger did another split
tap and that also got rid of the notifications, but for me swiping to it and
then doing a fast one-finger triple tap seems to be the most efficient way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Must be a bug on my end.  Just wondering if it's my particular situation or
is anyone else having this problem.  I see confirm section.  I double tap
and it keeps coming back to confirm section.  I tripple tap and the same
thing.  After doing double or tripple tap I do hear a click, and then a
second click, but confirm section is still there. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Notification center, anyone having this problem?

Hi Tom,



As Jonathan pointed out, it used to say Clear Section and you double
tapped and then you got Confirm Clear Section and you had to double tap
again. Now it just says Confirm Clear Section and you double tap then make
sure you double tap again on the Confirm Clear Section for the same
notification of course and it should work. What I mean is that if you double
tap Confirm Clear Section for Messages and then you double tap a second time
but you are actually tapping on Confirm Clear Section for Mail then of
course it won't work.



For me at least a fast 

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Juan Hernandez
You should use an android phone next to an iPhone and see how much harder it
is to use android devices.  Talk back works, but it is just far more crude
and clunkier than VoiceOver.

Best,



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Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update.

Pablo Even with the bugs Apple has it is still easy to use and a lot
of fun. For example I was able to take a picture of my son and it was
good enough for him to add to his instagram account. Try doing that
with the Windows phones. Yes there are bugs but IOS and voiceover are
very much useable and very powerful.

On 9/29/14, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh lord.
 Now the economy is handle like you said?
 Buying things that are not working well, improve the quality of the
 product?
 Where is the value of the competition in this formula?
 Yes, apple as android, as many other brans has to work with the
 accessibility. It is mandatory now. It is mandatory because the
 government in United States is making a hard pression about it. The
 problem is that all this brans doesn't have to do a good
 accessibility. They have to create accessibility, how it works is
 something that is going to  shown by the market. Now, if we, the blind
 community every year, go to the apple store, and buy what ever apple
 create, as watches, iPhones, when we are getting hard problems with
 the accessibility, we are hurting our pocket, because we are buying
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Just bought K and FB reader and I have some questions also opinions on what scanner app is best for reading mail would be welcome.

2014-09-29 Thread Lea Langley
Could someone please send me the link to the NK and FB reader podcast please 
and thank you. Also thank you very much for the help. How do I know when I have 
enough lighting for the cayenne FB reader app? Do I need to turn any extra 
lighting on? God bless, WrenPS I am using an iPhone five ass with the iOS 8.2 
update 

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RE: Seeing Eye GPS App, Worth It?

2014-09-29 Thread Juan Hernandez
I like navigon for turn-by-turn.

The maps download intro   screen is a bit of a pain, but once you get
through that it is actually really great.

Best,
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Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS App, Worth It?

If your main interest is knowing where you are, I think blindsquare is 
better. However, if you want turn by turn navigation, it might be worth 
the price since blindsquare does not provide this directly, however, 
there are good main stream apps that will do this as well.
Original message:

 Hi, now that the Seeing Eye GPS app has been out a while, can people 
 give up-to-date impressions? Is it worth the subscription cost, or are 
 there alternatives that work better and more cost-efficient? Thanks for 
 your input.

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Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
Yes, it is true, apple is very fun. But we don't have to congratulate
apple every time when they put in the market what ever new, more when
they have bugs in their IOs. ur mistake is that we are giving  our
money, what ever they want, when they are not been responsible with
the customers, when they are been very arrogant. It is not the apple
fault, it is our fault. It is the example of the man who hits his
wife. It is his  fault the first time, but each time that his wife
goes to the police department to reject the charges against him, is
her fault.
Every time that apple do things like they are doing now, and we are
running to buy their products, it our fault. Next year, we will get
another lesson, and apple will get our money again.
Any way, yu can do what ever with your money. I will not buy any other
apple product, until I am sure of;
1. I really needed.
2. It really do what I need to do.
3. It really works fine.
bye



On 9/29/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pablo Even with the bugs Apple has it is still easy to use and a lot
 of fun. For example I was able to take a picture of my son and it was
 good enough for him to add to his instagram account. Try doing that
 with the Windows phones. Yes there are bugs but IOS and voiceover are
 very much useable and very powerful.

 On 9/29/14, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh lord.
 Now the economy is handle like you said?
 Buying things that are not working well, improve the quality of the
 product?
 Where is the value of the competition in this formula?
 Yes, apple as android, as many other brans has to work with the
 accessibility. It is mandatory now. It is mandatory because the
 government in United States is making a hard pression about it. The
 problem is that all this brans doesn't have to do a good
 accessibility. They have to create accessibility, how it works is
 something that is going to  shown by the market. Now, if we, the blind
 community every year, go to the apple store, and buy what ever apple
 create, as watches, iPhones, when we are getting hard problems with
 the accessibility, we are hurting our pocket, because we are buying
 something that is not doing a good job. The competence in the market
 is who make the good products, is not people who love a product, and
 go to buy it, no matter the problems that those products has.

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RE: the stuck number bug when dialing a number

2014-09-29 Thread Juan Hernandez
Is this a error with voice over? Or are general iPhone users getting this
bug as well?


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Of Paul Ferrara
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the stuck number bug when dialing a number

I now see that pressing that same tone does work; thank you.
Better than restarting the phone which I did last time.

Paul

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From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the stuck number bug when dialing a number

I have found that pressing the tone that is sticking again will make it 
stop.

Hope this helps,
Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

 On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley mistydbrad...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I have experienced the stuck number bug myself, both while dialing a 
 number and while inputting numbers in an automated system. At first, 
 closing the phone app worked, but now, I am finding that I have to restart

 the entire phone to get the tones to stop. I hope Apple fixes this bug 
 soon, as it is very frustrating to dial numbers!
 Misty


 -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: the stuck number bug when dialing a number

 I think you're confusing two different bugs. Switching keyboards is the
 work around needed to fix issues with the bluetooth keyboard support. I
 think for the stuck numbers bug you can try removing the phone app from
 your app switcher. I haven't hit either of these bugs yet myself, so you
 might be best waiting for someone else to weigh in or checking the list
 archives.

 On 09/28/2014 05:01 PM, Paul wrote:
 All, I thought I remember hearing that you can get rid of the stuck
 numbers bug by switching keyboards?
 Is this right, and if so, what do you switch to and where do you
 accomplish this?
 Thanks.
 Paul

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RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Juan Hernandez
Actually, I know bugs are a pain.

But you don't have to get the upgrade or buy a device right away if you've 
heard there are bugs.  No software/hardware can work out all bugs in a system.  
Sometimes the system has  to be finally released, even with the knowledge that 
there are bugs, some maybe being considered major to some.

Bugs are in the nature of software development.  Human's aren't perfect, nor is 
software.

Be patient.  Apple has in the past released fixes for the bugs.  I am by no 
means congratulating apple by saying this, I as a software developer understand 
release cycles, and the processes involved and all of the pains, and hardships 
that come with releasing a new product into the wild.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update.

Yes, it is true, apple is very fun. But we don't have to congratulate
apple every time when they put in the market what ever new, more when
they have bugs in their IOs. ur mistake is that we are giving  our
money, what ever they want, when they are not been responsible with
the customers, when they are been very arrogant. It is not the apple
fault, it is our fault. It is the example of the man who hits his
wife. It is his  fault the first time, but each time that his wife
goes to the police department to reject the charges against him, is
her fault.
Every time that apple do things like they are doing now, and we are
running to buy their products, it our fault. Next year, we will get
another lesson, and apple will get our money again.
Any way, yu can do what ever with your money. I will not buy any other
apple product, until I am sure of;
1. I really needed.
2. It really do what I need to do.
3. It really works fine.
bye



On 9/29/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pablo Even with the bugs Apple has it is still easy to use and a lot
 of fun. For example I was able to take a picture of my son and it was
 good enough for him to add to his instagram account. Try doing that
 with the Windows phones. Yes there are bugs but IOS and voiceover are
 very much useable and very powerful.

 On 9/29/14, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh lord.
 Now the economy is handle like you said?
 Buying things that are not working well, improve the quality of the
 product?
 Where is the value of the competition in this formula?
 Yes, apple as android, as many other brans has to work with the
 accessibility. It is mandatory now. It is mandatory because the
 government in United States is making a hard pression about it. The
 problem is that all this brans doesn't have to do a good
 accessibility. They have to create accessibility, how it works is
 something that is going to  shown by the market. Now, if we, the blind
 community every year, go to the apple store, and buy what ever apple
 create, as watches, iPhones, when we are getting hard problems with
 the accessibility, we are hurting our pocket, because we are buying
 something that is not doing a good job. The competence in the market
 is who make the good products, is not people who love a product, and
 go to buy it, no matter the problems that those products has.

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Re: KNFB reader rocks!

2014-09-29 Thread Kerri
I sure wish I cold master this program, I'm having difficulty capturing a full 
page.
***
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treacherous lie than that from an honest man

On Sep 29, 2014, at 6:02 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:

 Well worth the money, I managed to get a whole page without any stand,
 without missing letters, and I could never do that with Prizmo or the other
 apps.  
 
 
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 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:02 AM
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 Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 Is it worth the money then? 99 dollars seems an awful lot of money to pay 
 for an ap.
 But if it works, I wouldnt mind paying.
 Shirley
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Chuck Dean
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 
 Hi all,
 I am having lunch at my local sandwich shop. They have a menu mounted on the
 
 wall behind the cash register.
 I took a picture of the menu... Worked pretty well!
 
 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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Upgrade 4s?

2014-09-29 Thread Scott Duck
Hi,

For now, I am holding off on upgrading to IOS 8, until they fix some of the
Voice Over bugs.  I have a iPhone 4s and a iPad III.  I am thinking that, as
these are both older devices, I may want to wait until I get new devices to
upgrade, even after the bugs are fixed.  What kind of performance are people
getting with VO on older devices with IOS 8?

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: KNFB reader rocks!

2014-09-29 Thread Chuck Dean
Try holding your phone further away. The page does not have to fit exactly into 
the phones viewfinder. So you can hold it, much further away and it will still 
do a good skin.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Kerri kootenaycr...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 I sure wish I cold master this program, I’m having difficulty capturing a 
 full page.
 ***
 there is no sharper blade than truth in a mouth of lies, no more
 treacherous lie than that from an honest man
 
 On Sep 29, 2014, at 6:02 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 Well worth the money, I managed to get a whole page without any stand,
 without missing letters, and I could never do that with Prizmo or the other
 apps.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Shirley
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:02 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 Is it worth the money then? 99 dollars seems an awful lot of money to pay 
 for an ap.
 But if it works, I wouldnt mind paying.
 Shirley
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Chuck Dean
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 
 Hi all,
 I am having lunch at my local sandwich shop. They have a menu mounted on the
 
 wall behind the cash register.
 I took a picture of the menu... Worked pretty well!
 
 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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Re: KNFB reader rocks!

2014-09-29 Thread Kerri
Speaking of tilt guide, mine does not work, has anyone experienced that
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I cannot even imagine where I would be today were it not for that handful of 
friends who have given me a heart full of joy. Let's face it, friends make
life a lot more fun.
Chuck Swindoll



On Sep 29, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Tilt Guidance is a simple on/off toggle (with a double tap) and it's right
 there on the main screen.
 
 
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 I had better luck than I have ever head also.  
 Where does one find the tilt in KNFB, I know it has to be there but I can't
 find it, and don't have time to listen to the podcast again.  
 
 
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 I've had good luck reading things with this app, even on my 4S, 
 more luck than with any other app I have purchased, or with the 
 KNFB Reader on the Nokia N 82, for that matter.  Oh, I'm not 
 claiming that it is perfect by any means; but, for my purposes of 
 sorting my mail and the like, I am able to get good enough 
 results to get the job done to my satisfaction.
 
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 Is it worth the money then? 99 dollars seems an awful lot of 
 money to pay
 for an ap.
 But if it works, I wouldnt mind paying.
 Shirley
 
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 Subject: KNFB reader rocks!
 
 
 Hi all,
 I am having lunch at my local sandwich shop.  They have a menu 
 mounted on the
 wall behind the cash register.
 I took a picture of the menu...  Worked pretty well!
 
 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure what you mean by the references below to not being able to 
use Android phones or Windows computers off the shelf. A blind person 
can enable Talk Back on an Android phone without any sighted assistance. 
I've done this myself on a Nexis 7. Windows has also added a hot key to 
start Narrator. I'm not sure if I could have set up my wife's Windows 8 
computer without any sighted assistance, but after she set up her 
account, she handed it to me and I was able to start Narrator, set up my 
account and download NVDA without any sighted help.


If you mean that Android and Windows don't have screen access built into 
their system and can be setup without sighted assistance then I don't 
think that's an accurate statement. If you mean that Talk Back and 
Narrator aren't as polished as VoiceOver then that may be true, but 
blind people can definitely use Android.


On 09/29/2014 06:14 AM, alia robinson wrote:

The only way to improve products is to use them and report bugs when we find 
them, as stated before if every person using accessibility stopped buying it 
wouldn't make not a single bit of difference, and apple isn't making money off 
accessibility; they could just stop doing it, period. I can't go in and buy an 
android phone off the shelf and use it. I can't buy a windows computer right 
off the shelf and use it. I can with apple, and no they don't have to do it at 
all. The only way to improve things is from within, and refusing to buy will do 
nothing for accessibility.

Alia

On Sep 29, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

Sieghard
If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your
life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve
the IOs8 quality either. Maybe you are protecting your own business now, but
one year ago, I said the same things that now the people on the  list, and
around the world is saying. Apple is abusing.
But if you continue on that position, next year this issue is going to be
worse, not better. Business doesn't work like this.
They want the money of the customers, if they don't receive our money, they
need to improve their products, to make it fancy  or attractive for us.
They will not improve IOs 8  quality, or accessibility quality, if we looks
so happy with their job. When you every year pay almost a thousand of
dollars for one new apple phone, it means that you are happy with what ever
they have done. Again, I am not talking about only about blind people. I am
talking about every body, because you and every body here, been blind,  is
people, right?
Ok, it is my point. Many times, we run to the apple store, to buy what ever
they put on their desks. They are making money with our money. But we are
getting a lot of problems with their IOs releases every year. What is the
solution?
Run and buy a new iPhone every year?
Get the IOs bugs, and wait until apple developers fix their bugs?
Be patience with apple?
They are patience with the customers?
Are you paying them little bit by little bit, or you have to pay everything
on one time, or you have to sign a contract for 2 or 3 years with who ever
sales iPhones?
Why we have to be patience??
No, of course no.




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Re: Seeing Eye GPS App, Worth It?

2014-09-29 Thread Brian Albriton
How did you get past that map downloads screen, or more correctly get
it done. I never could manage that one.

On 9/29/14, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like navigon for turn-by-turn.

 The maps download intro   screen is a bit of a pain, but once you get
 through that it is actually really great.

 Best,
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 If your main interest is knowing where you are, I think blindsquare is
 better. However, if you want turn by turn navigation, it might be worth
 the price since blindsquare does not provide this directly, however,
 there are good main stream apps that will do this as well.
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 give up-to-date impressions? Is it worth the subscription cost, or are
 there alternatives that work better and more cost-efficient? Thanks for
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