RE: Way-OT: Mo' de king's English
Richard, Short and to the point: Just the same educational experiences can be found with working class white youths whose parents moved out from the East End of London after the Second World War (move the dears out of slum housing and we'll be raising them up). Going back to my home town and seeing some of the old folks and neighbours (alas they are now passing on) that watched over my sisters and me as children, we all agree that Basildon and the surrounding areas has gone to the dogs. My elder sister who is over a decade older than me was something of a phenomenon in the area in the mid seventies. She had 12 O levels and 12 A grades and did very well at A level too in the days when those qualifications meant a lot (before they watered down the standards in the nineties and 00s so that you see the 97% pass rate today). She played the piano to grade 7 and was about to do grade 8. She could have easily picked up a performance diploma (though she didn't ice skate :). She didn't do too badly either at uni. nor her career. By the time of my generation (late eighties early nineties) just a small number of these white working class yobs would ruin any school. The less strong (and very small numbers) of black minority would join in 'to be popular' so fulfilling the low achievement expected of them. Kinda of role reversal don't cha think? You must say explicitly what the problem is if you are trying to help otherwise I can only see you as a segregationist. Did you try, repeatedly to reach out to these leftwing idealist idiots? May be the problem was one of presentation and labels and once having labelled you, you were beyond the pale? Thanks for the suggestion on the papers - though still somewhat nebulous I'll give the advice a go. R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RC Macaulay Sent: 20 September 2005 04:26 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Way-OT: Mo' de king's English Remi, Back in the 1960's as I recall I was an advisor to our local college board acting as laison between the manufacturing business community and the college. My input during that time included my objection to the plan to integrate the public grade schools without addressing the wide range of cultural issues within the minorities groups. .Attempting to meld the different segments of minority students into a totally new environment could create a new problem that would defy a later solution . Within the minority groups exists certain absolutes.. being .. total lawlessness, total immorality, total depravity, total hatred, total malice, the criminal mind personified. This group is a plague within the community that preys off the rest to such an extent they dominate regardless of their small numbers. The police will not enter these areas . My input was that this group must be separated from the majority of the minorities that were seeking education. My input was considered discriminitory. No amount of cautioning could overcome the blind rush to do something even if its wrong. The result was the criminal element entered the classrooms along with the seekers of education. Coinciding with the downward spiral of the failed experiment was the rise of the angry black man personified by national characters that profit from maintaining turmoil. Had they used the strategy used by Texas AM to blunt the onslaught of aggie jokes much backlash would have dissappeared. The situation has spiraled down to the the point that classroom teachers have become demoralized , indifferent and dropouts. Our small town has a retreat center for teachers from across the USA. They suffer from burnout and are sent to these summer programs hoping to reduce the teacher dropout rate. More than five thousand have now passed through the courses. They have heard it all, seen it all and experienced daily verbal abuse and violence. What is missing in their attitude is any anger or hatred toward the ones they hope to educate. They are perplexed by the treatment they have endured and mystified by the indifference of the leadership in those communities. I carefully study your comments and surely you have become aware that I have given you some incentive to respond. My purpose has been to analyze your comments and gauge your thinking process as an aid to my counseling our company on employee relations. This has been my first opportunity to communicate with someone articulate and with a background like yours, My past attempt to engage a Muslim engineer was rather one sided ,yet revealing. As for my prejudice . I am a businessman and there is little profit in it. If the white American was prejudiced, the minority would cease to exist. Witness the historical genocidal action of nations of the world. There is something unique about the USA and England . I hope you grasp the thought as I pass on a clue.. study Ephraim and Manasseh and the gleaning of the grapes. As to my
OT humour: Rasta
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725175.200 ... Website http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1 ...
Re: infighting
At 06:02 AM 9/20/2005, [Johnny C. Johnny] Coviello wrote: It is simply amazing that Dr. Mitchell Swartz should even mention the word plagiarism. In his most recent issue of Cold Fusion Times he put a story about the Cold Fusion Colloquium at MIT in May 2005 on the front cover, written by me (John Coviello), co-authored by Steve Krivit (New Energy Times), which is the property of New Energy Times, and appeared in that publication first. ... The excerpt to which Coviello refers was originally taken from an s.p.f. posting which is a PUBLIC posting where it appeared first. Said s.p.f. posting was posted by Coviello on May 23, 2005, under the pseudonym Johnny C Johnny who is John Coviello. One of his actual s.p.f. posts on this is below [complete with errors which were corrected in the excerpt]. First, attention is noted that ONLY Coviello's pseudonym was on that public post. Second, we would have been glad to give credit for the excerpts to whomever posted it, but there was only one (1) name on that and the other public postings. Third, in this case that attribution appears to have been correct. Most importantly, the fact remains is that we DID give Coviello credit for his article publicly posted on s.p.f. about a conference he attended and about which he reported. = from s.p.f. feed = From: JohnnyCJohnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion Subject: Here's Another Report on the MIT CF Conference Date: 23 May 2005 08:28:52 -0700 A report on the MIT Cold Fusion Colloquium: The moderator of this gathering was Dr. Mitchell Swartz, a veteran cold fusion researcher. His doctoral dissertation at MIT, I was told, was in electrochemistry. He is also a medical doctor specializing in oncology. Here is how this one-day colloquium (5/21/05) was described over the Internet: Cold Fusion - Science and Technology - plus other Clean Energy Investigations, with Special Tribute to Dr. Eugene Mallove, '69, Cold Fusion Investigator and former Chief Science Writer at MIT. Topics include: Science and Engineering; Discussions of Cold Fusion Materials Science; Review of Current Literature; Experimental Results; Understandings of Theories; Device Engineering; Discussion of Future Developments and Commercialization Potentials. Remembrances of Gene Mallove by family, friends and colleagues. Lunch included in conference fees. Free for MIT Students. The number of participants was about 60 (my own counting); 15% of them, I was told, were students. The meeting was organized by E-club -- the MIT Entrepreneurs Club. It is an organization sponsoring workshops devoted to all aspects of science and technology. They meet weekly. The event organizer, Dr. Richard Shynduroff, told me that the colloquium had two purposes; to commemorate Eugene, killed one year ago, and to expose interested students to the controversial field of cold fission. The first speaker was David Nagel - the topic of his presentation was Evidence that cold fusion involves nuclear reactions. It was a general review of results on production of helium, tritium, neutrons, new elements, and x-rays. He emphasized that formation of craters and hot spo/ts on cathode surfaces (using scanning electron microscopes) should also be viewed as nuclear signatures. The second presenter was Ross George; his topic was Acoustic-induced Cold Fusion Experiments. Ross has a company html:/www.d2fusion.com conducting practically-oriented research in cold fusion. He described experiments in which generation of excess heat was shown to be accompanied by the accumulation of helium (up to levels exceeding natural concentration in air). Some of his recent sonofusion experiments, generated excess heat at the level of hundreds of watts. The third and fourth speakers were John Dash (from the University of Portland) and Peter Hagelstein (from MIT). Peter is a theoretical physicist; he said that about 150 different reaction mechanisms have been proposed, in fifteen years, to model cold fusion. In his opinion not a single theory emerged as much better than others. John, who is a metallurgist, was describing results of his experimental investigations in the area of nuclear alchemy. Using the secondary ions mass spectroscopy method (SIMS) he was able to identify several transmutation products. He also reported on changes in isotopic ratios but these were results from literature, not from his own investigations. Kim Yeoung, Tabot Chub, Scott Chub, Robert Bass and Keith Johnson also talked about theoretical aspects of cold fusion. Mitch Swartz talked about the electrochemical cell called Phusor. Mitch Swartz talked about the electrochemical cell called Phusor. The electrolyte used in this cell has a very low concentration. For that reason the input power is only several watts then the applied voltage is thousand volts. The highest rate of excess heat generation, according to rapidly displayed transparencies, was 3.5
Re: Due Diligence on CF
Of course CF is dangerous. Any source of energy is dangerous in the wrong hands. In this case, the danger is also economic. Any country that has such a cheap and easily used source of concentrated energy can bankrupt any country that relies on conventional sources. Even though the US starts to use CF in the future, the country that starts using the method will always have an advantage because they will have the technicians and professionals who are in a position to stay ahead of everyone else. Of course, the originating country can always drop the ball as the US has done on several occasions, but that is a different problem. Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Chinese are a different story. If they develop cold fusion several years before we do, they will be in a position to develop the weapons are described in my book, in chapter 11. - Jed Are you saying that CF could be dangerous? Do you all risk doing an E. Teller by putting naked ambition before humanity? Ars gratia artis (art for art's sake)? Heard the one about Pandora and her box?
Interesting patent law case...off topic...long email...
From Wired.com news which may be of interest. Rgds, Jim D. Story location: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68894,00.html 02:00 AM Sep. 20, 2005 PT When New England inventor Philip French had his epiphany 15 years ago, he didn't dream it would lead to an invention that would be pressed into service in a top-secret government project, or spawn an epic court battle over the limits of executive power. He was just admiring a tennis ball. The ball's seam, with its two symmetrical halves embracing each other in a graceful curve, intrigued him. I thought, my god, I bet you can do something with that kind of shape, he recalls. He was right. French and two colleagues went on to design and patent a device now called the Crater Coupler, a simple, foolproof connector for linking one pipe or cable to another without nut threads or bolted flanges. The device is interesting on its own, but the broader legal legacy of the invention may be more important. In a little-noticed opinion this month, a federal appeals court ruled against the Crater Coupler patent holders and upheld a sweeping interpretation of the controversial state secrets privilege -- an executive power handed down from the English throne under common law that lets the government effectively kill civil lawsuits deemed a threat to national security, even if the state is not a party to the suit. The ruling is notable as a rare appellate interpretation of the state secrets privilege as it applies to patent holders. As such, it is a potentially worrying development for inventors -- particularly those developing weapons, surveillance and anti-terror technologies for government contractors -- who may find infringement claims dismissed without a hearing under the auspices of national security. It also offers a fascinating, if limited, view into the machinery of official secrecy at a time when the privilege is being exercised as never before. It's the most powerful privilege the government has, says William Weaver, senior adviser to the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition. It's the nuclear option. It never fails. French says he and his partners -- Charles Monty and Steven Van Keiren -- got the first inkling of a national security application for the Crater Coupler a decade ago. While shopping the new design around to a whole mess of quick-disconnect companies, the trio received an intriguing inquiry from Lucent Technologies, the reincarnation of the legendary Bell Labs research center, and at that time still part of ATT. Lucent wanted to evaluate the Crater Coupler for use as a fiber-optic wetmate -- an airtight connector for two fiber-optic cables designed to operate underwater. It was part of a contract with a U.S. government agency that, the company said, would have to remain unnamed. It was a secret black job, they couldn't divulge what it was for, says French. Who it was for, the Navy or the CIA, or who knows, they never said. A Lucent spokesman confirmed that the company had contact with French in 1995, but wouldn't discuss the details, citing government secrecy concerns. But according to French, the inventors agreed to help Lucent try to adapt the Crater Coupler to the company's needs, with the expectation that Lucent would license the group's patent if it all worked out. The inventors sent over plans, sketches and a model, and French began consulting and advising a Lucent engineer in monthly phone calls. After about a year of development and testing, Lucent had good news for the inventors: The device passed all the tests, shaming a competing, clunky design that French says resembled an old thermos. But when the inventors got on the phone with Lucent's lawyers to discuss license terms, the company dropped a bomb. Almost the first thing they said was, 'Well, we don't have to do anything, because this is under some sort of provision for military secret stuff where we don't have to pay anything,' says French. French felt betrayed. This was after a year of encouragement, with me helping them and them informing us of their progress, says French. That was one hell of a shock. Lucent eventually offered the inventors $100,000 for the right to produce 1,000 wetmate couplers. The offer caused a rift between French and his partners: They wanted to make a counteroffer of $500,000, but French -- in his 60s and recently retired -- wanted to take what was on the table. I said, well, Lucent doesn't have to do a thing, so why don't we take $100,000 and be happy with that? Unable to agree, French's partners bought him out for a flat $30,000. I used some of the money to have a garage built, French says. Lucent rejected the remaining inventors' counteroffer, and in 1998 Monty and Van Keiren, now incorporated as Crater Corp., filed a federal lawsuit in eastern Missouri against Lucent alleging patent http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp= 1u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=5,286,129.WKU.OS=PN/5,286,129RS= PN/5,286,129
Re: why the levee failed
- Original Message - From: Michael Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed. Turner is not just nuts - but a racist bigot. Definitely Klan material. Yes, and so much worse than those non-racist bigots we used to have. If you are implying the two words are synonomous, that is incorrect. A racist is a subset, but in fact the great majority of bigots are not overtly racist. Case in point: the term 'bigot' is most often applied these days to religion, but even the most ardent religious bigots, like Pat Roberstson and the other televangelists, are seldom racist - in fact these religious bigots often make open attempts to publicly demonstate non-racism. Their private opinions may be another matter. Did anyone else happen to see the eyewitnesses say that it was an untethered barge that ran into the levee and broke it? Or was that a different levee? No same levee and thanks for mentioning this. Here is a report: http://www.rense.com/general67/loose.htm And this makes a lot of sense. Barge (mass 500,000 kg??) strikes levee, levee breaks, water gushes in to already saturated streets, knocking down some utility poses, trasnformers explode, water builds up further and is noticed shortly thereafter by residendes some few streets away from the levee, who cannot see the barge. Residents now believe that the explosion, not the barge was the cause of the breach since they heard the explosion before they noticed the rapidly rising water.
LENR-CANR is UNOFFICIAL
Mitchell Swartz wrote: 1. The issue is not about censorship of papers, but it is about the systematic censorship of ICCF-10 titles by Storms and Rothwell, while purporting they are the official ICCF-10 site. It is just the opposite. Peter Hagelstein asked us to make it clear that LENR-CANR is the unofficial site. He asked us to add the following text to the heading of every ICCF10 paper: This paper was presented at the 10th International Conference on Cold Fusion. It may be different from the version published by World Scientific, Inc (2003) in the official Proceedings of the conference. I thought that was a good idea, and I was happy to do it. (A few of the papers came to me in Acrobat format only and I had difficult shoehorning this text into them. That sort of thing is easier to do with the newest version of PDF Converter.) The systematic censorship of titles that Swartz refers to is pure moonshine. I cannot tell whether he is lying or paranoid, but I have never censored a single title, and it is absurd to think that I would. The database include anti-cold fusion propaganda and books, and other stuff that I abhor and would never upload. On rare occasions I have refused to upload papers for various reasons, mainly because they are off-topic or incomprehensible, but there is no reason why I would leave out a title. I did remove some of Swartz's titles because a year after the conference I had heard nothing from him or from Peter Hagelstein, so I assumed these papers were never written. There is no point in listing papers that do not exist. Actually, I suspect there are few phantom papers in the database, and if I find them I will delete them. Of course it is difficult to confirm that a paper was never published. If the author tells me it was published, I take him at his word. It is no big deal to have a few phantom items in a list of 3,273 papers. There are probably some duplicates as well. The database was created by Dieter Britz and Ed Storms, and in general they did a fine job, but mistakes inevitably creep into the database as large as this. (It includes the titles, authors, co-authors, journal name and so on, and also abstracts and commentary.) I winnowed out several mistakes when I first converted the database to the online version. I used Pascal programs to make comparisons and look for problems that would have been tedious to fix manually. - Jed
Yes, CF is dangerous, and so are steam engines and computers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Chinese are a different story. If they develop cold fusion several years before we do, they will be in a position to develop the weapons are described in my book, in chapter 11. Are you saying that CF could be dangerous? Absolutely! As I said, if the Chinese develop it intensively for several years before we do, and they also develop the kinds of weapons are described in chapter 11, that will give them immense power. But this is true of nearly any technology. The biggest advantage the British had in 1842 was the marine steam engine. This was developed for peaceful uses, but it was effective in war. British shipborne cannons were also better than the Chinese artillery, but I believe the main advantage was the steam engine. Many civilian devices such as trucks have given nations a decisive advantage in war, as I pointed out in the beginning of Chapter 11, quoting General Eisenhower. Computers and microprocessors have given weapons enormously powerful new capabilities, especially in conventional warfare. Computers were first developed for use in war, but nearly all subsequent development was in the civilian economy, and most of the microprocessors in weapons are no more powerful than the ones in video games. By the way, China is the only nation that worries me, and only because it is presently a Communist dictatorship. If China reforms -- as I hope it does -- and becomes a democracy, then it would be fine with me if they develop CF ahead of us. If Japan, South Korea, India or the U.K. were to gain a decisive advantage in cold fusion that would be OK too, because they are stable democracies and I think there is no chance they would go around intimidating other nations. Or if they did, it would be no worse than what the US does today. If Japan or Korea become the world's number one superpower with CF, they deserve to be. Do you all risk doing an E. Teller by putting naked ambition before humanity? Teller advocated the development of the thermonuclear bomb, which has only one use, as a weapon of mass destruction. CF, like the truck and the computer, can be used as either a sword or a plowshare. Incidentally, there was a time in the 1950s when Dyson and others were working on nuclear bomb powered spacecraft. If these had worked out, and they had been environmentally benign, then I suppose it would have given the thermonuclear bomb might have had a peaceful, practical use. (I do not know whether these ships were supposed to be powered by fission bombs only or whether they might also work with small fusion bombs.) Ars gratia artis (art for art's sake)? Heard the one about Pandora and her box? Yup. Mankind opened that box hundreds of thousands of years ago, and there is no closing it now. We must progress or die. I say ad astra. Ed Storms agrees with me on this. He wrote: Of course CF is dangerous. Any source of energy is dangerous in the wrong hands. In this case, the danger is also economic. . . . Even though the US starts to use CF in the future, the country that starts using the method will always have an advantage because they will have the technicians and professionals who are in a position to stay ahead of everyone else. . . . I quibble with this. A technological advantage seldom lasts longer than 30 to 50 years or so. The British advantage in steam gunboats and battleships during the Opium Wars was the most dramatic example in history. The U.S. used these Wars to great advantage a few years later when Perry intimidated Japan and forced them to open the country. The British used gunboat diplomacy again to bombard the Japanese city of Kagoshima in 1863. The Japanese, the Chinese and everyone else in Asia knew exactly what had happened in the Opium Wars, so they immediately and frantically set to work building battleships, better artillery and modern armies. Within a few decades they succeeded well enough to prevent another lopsided victory. The British attacked China again in 1860, destroying the palaces in Beijing, but it was nowhere near as easy. I think by 1880 or so, the Chinese and the Japanese both managed to develop enough military power to prevent another Opium War. Unfortunately, by this time the damage was done. British policy had effectively weakened or taken over much of China, killing several million people by addicting them to opium, and by sucking the lifeblood out of the economy, which caused massive famines. Even if another country gets ahead of you, if you make the effort and begin to catch up, this will probably avert a military disaster, or the complete subjugation of your nation. Japan did not close the gunboat gap completely by 1880, but they did avoid being taken over outright by the Americans, and colonized. It was a partial takeover. The Americans and Europeans imposed extraterritoriality, and they took over control of trade. In other words, Americans who committed
Re: LENR-CANR is UNOFFICIAL
From Mitchell Swartz ... In any case, the attempt at such censorship at the LENR site is now moot,since the ICCF-10 Proceedings will be shortly out anyway by the serious diligence of Prof. Hagelstein,whom cold fusioneers should thank for his efforts. When the ICC-10 Proceedings are finally published it is my hope that Dr. Swarz will no longer feel censored. I look forward to seeing uncensored reports by Dr. Swartz published on-line. However, after reading a recent post from Dr. Swartz to Mr. Rothwell suggesting that Jed use a dictionary and thesaurus for more than just a paperweight I'm inclined to suspect that feeling censored will be the least of Dr. Swartz's issues. It has use beyond that of a paperweight. - Dr. Swartz http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg08227.html Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
RE: sterling jobs in phoenix
From: Alex Caliostro in the gallery section there's a bush inspecting the sandia installation bush is in the breaking news photo section http://www.stirlingenergy.com/breaking_news_photos.htm why is this (oil) man smiling has he found a way to meter sunlight -alex _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: LENR-CANR is UNOFFICIAL
At 01:00 PM 9/20/2005, Rothwell wrote: Mitchell Swartz wrote: Second, Rothwell was physically handed the papers at Dr. Mallove's funeral. Rothwell: As I said, I could not read the CD-ROM, and I do not deal with physical paper, unless the electronic copies have been lost. First, Rothwell purports that he did not know if a paper was written but THEN he admits he received it but could not read the CD-ROM and THEN he also admits he also received it in hand but could not deal with physical paper. It is OFFICIAL: Jed Rothwell appears caught in his own net of falsehoods again. Q.E.D.
Re: It ain't fittin, not fittin, it just ain't fittin
Ok then, Richard, how about "retrofittin' " ?? As in retrofittin' diesels. Are you running any large diesels 24/7 on any of your water projects? How would you like to use 30-60% less fuel - as these French folks claim they are doing ? http://perso.wanadoo.fr/quanthommesuite/imagesreal05/fichespadapte.pdf This is in French, but there are several thousand universal words-worth of pictures of same: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/quanthommesuite/RealPMCPantone.htm The middle row of pictures based G1-4 are the diesel. The others are for smaller conversions. The average seems to be about 50/50 water -for the same power, but the actual testing is suspect. However, given that a 24/7 diesel can burn $50,000 (or far more) worth of (untaxed) fuel per year, it might be worthwhile to inquire. Pantone is having a few legal probelms but is apparently out of the pokey now. Anyway most of this material is in the public domain and you would be wise to waty away from him. http://pesn.com/2005/09/19/9600169_Pantone_Legal_Battles/ Joens
Re: It ain't fittin, not fittin, it just ain't fittin
Here are the better pictures. It is a 200 kw turbo diesel retrofit for Egypt - caterpillar 6 cylindres turbo D343-62B The only problem is there are no test figures. All very new and open source. The welded box is the reformer. Where is John Steck? - he has probably looked into this already on the samleer scale. Jones
Re: LENR-CANR is UNOFFICIAL
Harry Veeder wrote: How much more evident can we make it? I was referring to the home page and not to the disclaimers on the papers. Ah. Well. Most people read the papers and skip the site. Anyway, I do not see anything on the site that says it is official. You ask how much more evident can you make it? State it explicitly on the home page. State what, exactly? What wording do you propose? Where would you put it? There are millions of web sites about various subjects, and hundreds of thousands about energy. I do not recall seeing a disclaimer on one that says it is not an official site, because that is self-evident. Do you see any disclaimers on Swartz's site? How about Infinite Energy, or http://www.newenergytimes.com/? When these other sites declare themselves unofficial (unofficially what, I do not know) perhaps I will follow suit. If LENR-CANR said: The U.S. Department of Energy in cooperation with The American Nuclear Society presents LENR-CANR.org . . . that would certainly look official, and it would be deceptive. It might be fun to add a fake endorsement supposedly written by Robert Park. (Authoritative, convincing and complete . . .) But I see nothing like that. - Jed
Re: LENR-CANR is UNOFFICIAL
Swartz sez: ... Ergo, STRIKE 3: As stated before, and now proven thrice, it is OFFICIAL: Jed Rothwell has been (again) caught in his own net of falsehoods. Q.E.D. Ah, the OFFICIAL three strikes yer out ploy! I'm curious, Dr. Swartz. If you succeed in your efforts to OFFICIALLY catch Jed in a net of his own falsehoods what do you plan on doing next? I'm in the middle of planning my OFFICIAL entertainment schedule for the next week. Does anybody know if Donald Trump is airing any more Youre fired! reality shows? OFFICIAL Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
cravin' energy
dennis cravens has a couple of demonstration projects which should get even cf skeptics attention http://www.netmdc.com/~physics/ -alex _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: LENR-CANR is UNOFFICIAL, and Swartz is back in the kill-file
At 03:31 PM 9/20/2005, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mitchell Swartz wrote: In addition, note that Rothwell has also finally admitted that HE removed the titles, but he remains disingenuous about WHEN he removed the titles. Rothwell: Yo: Mitch. Where does admit come from? It is my web site. Who else could have removed the titles? And who put them back as soon as you asked? Let us get something straight there. Rothwell finally admitted several things after many years of denial. Methinks he protests too much. = Rothwell: You, of all people, should not spout off about the ethics of running a web site. You have plagiarized my papers many times. In your last issue you copied Coviello and Krivit in one place, and Storms and I in another, both without attribution or permission. What utter nonsense. When we print, or discuss, excerpts from the web (publicly posted) we cite source (and often the URL). And we list the author. To take excerpts from public sites on the Internet and then attribute authorship, origin, and URL is NOT plagiarism. But then using a dictionary is NOT, and has NEVER BEEN, Mr. Rothwell's strong point. Despite Rothwell's BS, we have meticulously cited sites, URLS, and the author, including Rothwell's in each case. If Rothwell really knows of one we missed, he should let us know and that will be corrected, unlike the chronic failure to correct things which so characterizes Mr. Rothwell and his company.
Re: LENR-CANR is UNOFFICIAL
At 03:38 PM 9/20/2005, Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: I'm curious, Dr. Swartz. If you succeed in your efforts to OFFICIALLY catch Jed in a net of his own falsehoods what do you plan on doing next? Going back to cold fusion science and research. That is HOW this began. Jed's entrapment is -- and has been -- of no interest to me. This began from Ed Storms and Jed Rothwell's pejorative posts after I posted some cold fusion data and information, posted a correction to Jed's disputing Bill Beaty's reasonable suggestion of what is 'practical', and finally I dared to post a correction to Jed's definition of 'company' and 'practical'. No good deed goes unpunished, it seems. I'm in the middle of planning my OFFICIAL entertainment schedule for the next week. Does anybody know if Donald Trump is airing any more Youre fired! reality shows? OFFICIAL Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com Heard he was, but the several new sci-fi series might be as interesting. Best wishes.
Re: toyota going total hybrid
Excellent news. Let us hope they quickly extend that to plug-in hybrids. But they do not give a timetable. And we should remember that although over 200,000 hybrid cars will be sold in the U.S. this year, total automobile sales are ~17 million J. D. Power-LMC predicts that hybrid sales will reach 3% of the U.S. market by 2010. (http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases/pressrelease.asp?ID=2005013) This will have no effect on the environment or global warming. There will only be significant progress in the US if government, consumers and manufacturers make a commitment to rapid, fundamental, radical changes. There is no question that the industry can change quickly. In the 1960s automobile safety was increased by a huge measure with the introduction of hundreds of new safety regulations. (Before then there were virtually no safety regulations.) In the 1970s they doubled efficiency, and reduced pollution by a factor of 20. With strong leadership, we could catch up to the Japanese and the Italians within five or 10 years. New automobiles in Japan now get about 40 mpg average. If ours did that we would not be importing oil. Hybrid cars seem to be more common in Japan than in the US. At least, you see more different models in the showroom and streets, including vans and things. When hybrid sales increase, the average mpg should rise to around 50 or 60. Once plug-in hybrids become common, Japan will reduce oil imports to negligible levels. It is already on a path to doing this. Most Japanese electricity comes from hydroelectricity or nuclear power, and nuclear power is being increased, so this will reduce CO2 emissions. They plan to generate about 10% of electricity (or 100 GW) with roof-based solar PV by 2030. See: http://www.earthscan.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=350SP=332775698126342377300v=3 I think 100 GW should be enough to meet the increased demand from plug-in hybrids. As I have pointed out here previously, converting the entire automobile fleet to electricity would take much less energy than you would think, and a far smaller fraction of total energy than today's automobile fleet consumes. - Jed
RE: Battery capacity for electric autos, practical concerns
It's too bad that the Vanadium Redox battery doesn't have a higher charge density. You could just replace the electrolyte and move along. The metal- air batteries visualized getting a new metal slurry and dumping the hydroxide. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:17 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Battery capacity for electric autos, practical concerns The following scenario focuses on all-electric cars, not hybrids. I'm making the assumption that eventually hybrid-cars will be completely replaced with 100% electrical systems.
Re: toyota going total hybrid
Toyota has also announced that they are working to cut the hybrid premium (around $3,000 for a Prius) in half. I think with gasoline prices rising in coming years, every car model will have hybrid option by 2015. Don't listen to the rhetoric about oil prices, just watch the price, oil is a very fluid market, the price tells us how available it really is. - Original Message - From: Alex Caliostro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: toyota going total hybrid September 14, 2005 Toyota Says It Plans Eventually to Offer an All-Hybrid Fleet By BLOOMBERG NEWS FRANKFURT, Sept. 13 (Bloomberg News) - The Toyota Motor Corporation said this week that all its vehicles would eventually be run by hybrid gasoline-electric motors, as record fuel prices curb demand for conventional automobiles. In the future, the cars you see from Toyota will be 100 percent hybrid, Kazuo Okamoto, executive vice president, told reporters in Frankfurt Monday, without giving a specific timetable. Toyota, Japan's biggest carmaker and second to General Motors worldwide, is aiming to make as many as 400,000 gasoline-electric vehicles in 2006, including Prius cars, Camry sedans, Highlander sport utility vehicles and Coaster buses, Katsuaki Watanabe, president of Toyota, said at an investor conference in New York Monday. That would be 60 percent more than 2005's objective, he added. Toyota has sold 425,000 gasoline-electric cars since 1997 and is trying to profit from its lead over General Motors and Ford Motor. Mr. Watanabe said he aimed to cut production costs and halve the $5,000 price premium on such vehicles, without giving details. Toyota has been the leader of the pack in environmental technology, and they will probably continue to be, said Norihito Kanai, an analyst at Meiji Dresdner Asset Management in Tokyo. Many of its rivals were at first not so aggressive in hybrids, but now we see everyone joining. Hybrid vehicles combine a gasoline engine with a battery pack that is recharged through braking. Electricity powers the vehicle at low speeds, enabling the Prius to go up to 55 miles on a gallon of gasoline, double the mileage of an automobile that runs on a conventional engine. A Prius hybrid carries a sticker price of $20,875 in California. The cost of those components makes hybrids $3,000 to $5,000 more expensive than gasoline-engine autos, according to automakers and analysts. Mr. Watanabe told investors he could not give a time frame for halving the price premium. Nihon Keizai reported on its Web site Tuesday that he gave a target of 2010. Fujio Cho, Mr. Watanabe's predecessor, previously set a goal of selling 300,000 hybrids annually worldwide by the end of 2005, and last year he pushed back the date to 2006. Jim Press, Toyota's United States sales chief, said a shortage of batteries and other parts would probably hold back production. The company is planning to sell 240,000 to 250,000 hybrids this year and a million a year by 2010. We believe that in 10 years the world will be filled with hybrids, Mr. Okamoto said. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/14/automobiles/14toyota.html _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: LENR-CANR is UNOFFICIAL -- and so it says, Matey, arrrrgggg!
It is NOT mine, and Swartz is caught in his own net of falsehoods again. Q.E.D. And P.D.Q. And also I.T.L.A.P.D. Hi, ho, Matey! Avast, and shiver me timbers. How's that fer splittin' hairs and deliberately misreadin' the Queen's English? Arr!!! Somewhere, Chris Tinsley is, sardonically, smiling...
Re: Sponsorship request
Believe it is possible for the members of the Vorts group to share the costs of this conference by each ponying up 25 to 50 bucks via check in lieu of a pledge and sending the money to the New Energy Institute now. Surely Steven has demonstrated his work and concern for new energy. It is important for all to assist him. Richard - Original Message - From: Steven Krivit To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: Sponsorship request Dear Vo,A few days ago, I received notice that my abstract, "How Can Cold Fusion Be Real, Considering It Was Disproved By Several Well-Respected Laboratories in 1989?", was accepted for oral presentation at the International Congress of Nanotechnology, which will be held on October 31-November 4, 2005 in San Francisco. It was actually someone here on Vortex that first alerted me to this conference several months ago. I contacted the organizers and told them that there were some interesting relationships between CF and NANO, and asked if they would like to know more.I am looking for financial sponsorship for this project. The travel and conference fee costs total $895.The mission of this project, as with my recent ICENES presentation, is to help bridge the gap between the cold fusion community and the rest of the scientific community and science media .I received a pledge today of $350 from one sponsor, and I am looking for a pledge(s) to cover the remaining $545. Most likely, donations at this time to New Energy Institute Inc. will be tax-deductible, though I cannot guarantee such. I expect to receive the determination letter from the IRS within two months.The written paper is due by the end of this week and I would place notice of sponsorship on the paper, as well as the presentation. If you are able to help, please reply OFF-LIST.Thank you. Steven B. KrivitEditor, New Energy TimesExecutive Director, New Energy Institute Inc.NEW ENERGY TIMES Your best source for cold fusion news and information. 11664 National Blvd. Suite 142Los Angeles, California, USA 90064www.newenergytimes.comCell phone: (310) 721-5919Office Phone: (310) 470-8189Fax: (432) 577-3630
Re: genesis shipping
From: Nick Palmer Alex, if this was real the world would be beating a path to their door. but what are the pictures about -alex _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: Plagarism By Cold Fusion Times
Well, this certainly is bad form, but since the Cold Fusion Times version does show that John Coviello is the author, I do not think it is plagarism. It is a copyright violation. - Jed
European carmakers upset by hybrids
There is an interesting side note in the N. Y. Times about hybrids. Many European carmakers are feeling stampeded into making hybrids, which they feel are a passing fad. They are developing them grudgingly, in case customer demand continues to increase. They say that their diesel cars get just as good mileage, they are simpler and cheaper, and you can turn them off while waiting at a red light, just as you can turn off a hybrid. I think they are missing the point. Diesel technology has been in intensive development for decades, and it is probably reaching the peak of its potential efficiency. Hybrid technology just began, and it is already about equal to the best diesels. With better, lighter batteries it will surpass diesel, and with a plug-in version it will leave it far behind in cost, efficiency, CO2 reduction, and so on. Of course you can make a diesel hybrid, and I think the Europeans, with their expertise, should be considering that. - Jed
ANS conference
www.ANS.org The LENR session will be Thursday, 17 November 2005 Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions, sponsored by IRD. Session Organizer: Bob Smith (Oakton Int). All invited. [Track 7] Nuclear Reaction Pathways Resulting from Phonon Interactions, Peter Laurence Hagelstein (MIT) Evidence for Intense Soft X-Ray Emission from a Hydride Target Undergoing Intense Deuteron Bombardment, George H. Miley (Univ of Illinois) Dual Ohmic Controls Improve Understanding of Heat After Death, Mitchell R. Swartz, Gayle Verner (JET Thermal Products) Bose-Einstein Fusion Mechanism for Low-Energy Nuclear Reaction and Transmutation Processes in Micro- and Nano-Scale High-Density Deuteron Plasmas, Yeong E. Kim (Purdue Univ) Development of Methodology for the Evaluation of Relationship Between Coherent Zener Breakdown and Tunneling in Finite Lattices: Why Nano- Scale PdD Crystals Can Turn-on Faster, Scott R. Chubb, Sr. (Research Systems) Three Types of dd Fusion, Talbot Chubb (Research Physicist) Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, David J. Nagel (George Washington Univ) S
Re: Plagarism
Jed, Copyright violation? Yes. But that's not we care about so much. It was a collaborative piece. As editor, I worked extensively with John on it. Also my copy editor, Cindy Goldstein worked on it. So when we don't get any credit or recognition for it appearing elsewhere...that's the part that really sucks. s
Re: Sponsorship request
Thanks Richard: Goal: $895 Received: 3 pledges totalling $650 Remaining: $245 Who wants in? :) My paper is due Friday. Pledges or donations received by Thursday night will be recognized in the paper and presentation, unless anonymity requested. Donations: http://newenergytimes.com/paypaldonate.htm : One-Time Donation Thanks for the support. Steve At 06:28 PM 9/20/2005, you wrote: Believe it is possible for the members of the Vorts group to share the costs of this conference by each ponying up 25 to 50 bucks via check in lieu of a pledge and sending the money to the New Energy Institute now. Surely Steven has demonstrated his work and concern for new energy. It is important for all to assist him. Richard
Re: Oops...
I can remember when the biowarfare lab was on [or under] some remote farm in the desert somewhere. Dam those budget cuts now we're having to do it in Jersy. Alex Caliostro wrote: From: Jones Beene Not to mention One suspects that the strain of plague which they have on hand at these bioterrorism labs might be a tad more virulent than the run-of-the-mill field mouse variety. so now our universities are developing bioweapons this reminds me of those headlines two weeks ago E COLI FOUND IN NEW ORLEANS WATER if these jounalists would look around where they have their heads they would find lots of e coli WWFSMD? _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Scientific Debate
When I was a child, I had my first scientific debate. I think vorts will find the line of reasoning very familiar. This was a long, long time ago. Truman was still President. I was attending what today would be called a pre-school. It was quite a nice place with well-behaved children. I remember this as if it were an hour ago. I was standing out on the lawn looking up at the sky when another little boy named Sammy Knight asked, Hey Mike, watcha lookin' at? The moon., I answered. Can't be the moon!, Sammy yelled. Why not?, I asked. The moon only comes out at night., said Sammy. Well just look up at it. It's the moon., I insisted. I don't have to., replied Sammy. Everybody knows the moon only comes out at night. A little girl standing nearby added, I dunno, Sammy, it looks like the moon, only there's blue in it, like the sky. You're both so stupid, the moon only comes out night. Sammy yelled again. Is it really the moon?, the little girl asked me. It sure looks like the moon. I said. I dunno, I think Sammy must be right. said the little girl, her eyes cast downward. Kind of sounds like cold fusion opponents, no? M. ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
