Re: [Vo]:Rossi, Lucifer, and Phos (brazing alloy)
Dang, isn't this the most complicated of endeavors? On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Well… its worth trying in the simple version, the automotive CC, but this route would not necessary function in air nor with HHO. Oxidation could be a problem. You need to get rid of the oxygen and nitrogen and use tanked hydrogen –to get nickel phosphides, plus - the converter would need nickel content (which many have). In short, it is possible but unlikely - to simulate the E-cat unless you get a CC containing substantial nickel catalyst, then evacuate the air and add only H2 - and trigger it externally with any thermal source, like a resistance heater. However, the simple version could work, marginally. *From:* Kevin O'Malley It should be a relatively simple matter for those who have been playing with automotive catalytic converters as LENR boxes. Add phos to the mix see what happens... ,Jones Beene wrote: Connect-the-dots... and ... the devil is in the details... (for those who are not accustomed to weekend postings on vortex, the following account may be partly factual, partly wild guesswork, and partly attempted cynical humor). The secret sauce of Andrea Rossi, which is the identity of the ingredient(s) besides nickel which makes his reaction more robust than the others in the progression ... going back to Piantelli and Thermacore, circa 1991, has been a subject of intrigue since his original demonstration. IOW in the early 1990's substantial thermal gain was seen or claimed with Ni-H reactors - in the tens of watts level at low COP, but twenty years later - something which Andrea Rossi added to the nickel, perhaps inadvertently, allowed a more robust gain, going into the kilowatt level. More recently, many including the geniuses at NASA have suspected that SPP was the key to understanding... but SPP (surface plasmon polaritons) requires photon emission. Things did not add up. BTW - up until the time of his 2011 demo, Rossi was paying his bills by working as a metal fabricator in New Hampshire (basically copper pipe fabrication, aka: plumber). This is no secret and he admits it on his blog. In retrospect, what was once a secret is that Rossi's breakthrough was probably always there, in plain view, as they say. Hidden in plain view - it is almost laughable in the continuing Rossi saga. The next devilish dot to connect: P or phosphorous or Phos. Every good plumber uses phosphorus self-fluxing alloy, called Phos, since the element P is an extremely reactive nonmetallic (metalloid) element, a pentavalent pnictogen, a compound of which was once called lucifer's powder but which is seldom mentioned as a reactant in LENR. Phosphorus is the element which allows cigarettes to be lit with matches, and allows SPP to be lit in a reactor. Phosphorescence is the general term for a light-emitting material. That lack of prior mention in the LENR field is why P could have remained Rossi's secret for so long, not to mention that Rossi himself was probably unaware of this detail until sometime near the end of 2012. A strange design feature of E-Cat, which has been noted from the early days of Rossi is his crude (appearance) copper reactors which were brazed in a way which leaves a lot of residue near the joint. This residue turns black, and gives the appearance of crude craftsmanship - but in fact, it is nearly impossible to braze good joints that do not look this way since you risk a leak when you go for pretty. Phosphorus-containing brazing alloys are used for this in many applications as a substitute for welding, since they are self-fluxing, when joining copper to copper, making strong joints at minimal cost. Self-fluxing phosphorus alloys when in contact with nickel produce nickel phosphides. Paper of interest: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja403440e Anyway, the first form of elemental phosphorus to be produced by alchemists and magicians in the Middle Ages was white phosphorus, aka magician's dust, which can explode violently, and emits a faint glow upon exposure to air, and was called lucifer's powder, referring to the light-bearer of Gnostic tradition. Finally there is the dot called Chemiluminescence of which nickel phosphide is a prime candidate, which will in fact provide the photons which are required for SPP. If the above connect-the-dots scenario is correct, then now we know the identity of Rossi's secret sauce = Phos. And the curious thing is that Rossi may not have realized the secret himself until later. This can explain why he may have had so much trouble in replicating the device for observers in early 2012 - since if he tried to make his reactor look pretty for the guests, by eliminating the flux from the brazed joints; but in so doing, Rossi probably also eliminated the phosphorus which bleeds into the inner wall; and it took him some time to figure out
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
I suppose that will be so. Disruptive technology will often be seen as the destroyer of the status quo technology. When a nation banks on the status quo and such a disruption occurs, that nation gets destroyed. There are several examples in history, such as those dealing with the business end of gun powder explosives which today you can simply buy over the internet as ammunition. The indigenous populations of the Americas and Australia didn't quite appreciate the subtle points of the civilization argument when they were being hunted down. Gazprom isn't the only entity threatened. Exxon, Standard Oil,Mobile, Shell, Gulf, etc. But these guys have money and they know what business they are in: Energy Production. So it will only be a matter of time before they negotiate a deal with IH Rossi for the production of energy, which they PURCHASE. In my view, ALL of these guys will need Stirling Cycle Engine technology, such as CYPW Cyclone Power which has been starved for RD funds until this date. That's one of the reasons why I decided to buy CYPW stock, which is looking increasingly ugly of late. On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/big-risks-seen-putins-idea-beef-gazprom-140852799--sector.html *Big risks seen in Putin's idea to beef up Gazprom* Putin wants to dump much of the Russian pension funds into Gazprom, a company often referred to as Russia's national heritage. When the E-Cat puts Gazprom out of business, Putin will be extremely pissed. And the old people in Russia will get mighty hungry. There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
Axil, It will take a longer than you suppose for LENR to take over. There will be a market for gas for decades yet.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: It will take a longer than you suppose for LENR to take over. There will be a market for gas for decades yet. But it will be in a steep decline, with producers desperate to sell of their inventory. It took a long while for automobiles and airplanes to wipe out passenger train service. That happened from around 1920 to 1965. But the industry was in decline the whole time, with intermittent crises. In the 1930s the government had to take over the railroad pension system. In the end the Pennsylvania Railroad, went bankrupt. In 1900 that had been largest, most politically powerful corporation on earth. That power availed them nothing once the technology became obsolete. Ocean liner service declined more rapidly from 1945 to 1960. Like the passenger railroads, this was not an industry you would want to invest in, or work for. It was a fiscal disaster. All conventional energy sources such as oil, coal, wind and nuclear power will lose value the moment people realize cold fusion is real. Within a few years the stocks of the companies will be worth nothing. Wind and solar will be gone. The others will lose money for a generation as they gradually wither away. This has been the pattern with obsolete technology in the past. There is no reason to think it will not repeat in this case. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
I hope the equatorial convergence zone will protect me long enough to make the radiation from radioactive fallout decrease substantially. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: I hope the equatorial convergence zone will protect me long enough to make the radiation from radioactive fallout decrease substantially. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs. But I think those guys would be safe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_shelter#Use 2014-06-08 16:19 GMT-03:00 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com: [image: Boxbe] https://www.boxbe.com/overview This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (hohlr...@gmail.com) Add cleanup rule https://www.boxbe.com/popup?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fcleanup%3Ftoken%3DzYydARbsLgCXGp9%252FrnPoQkG%252BD6Ap7%252FOwGDfWMNUfZJAEP7ytPHqsTC5dPhLEtVkysUMbVye2oK5kciYlVQQLYmFD1oy4a1HDam1XGVgRQJSNGADuUNTQ4lNao6dhX2rvygCDICB2%252Fgk%253D%26key%3DAr0ueRnAMIoc5g6bd5dPbKNWcFHb5%252BvWInsUCfG8n0s%253Dtc_serial=17527396188tc_rand=1048977129utm_source=stfutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=ANNO_CLEANUP_ADDutm_content=001 | More info http://blog.boxbe.com/general/boxbe-automatic-cleanup?tc_serial=17527396188tc_rand=1048977129utm_source=stfutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=ANNO_CLEANUP_ADDutm_content=001 On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: I hope the equatorial convergence zone will protect me long enough to make the radiation from radioactive fallout decrease substantially. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137 -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs. The movie was released in 1959. The H-Bomb was released in 1952.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
He, I read 1951! 2014-06-08 16:49 GMT-03:00 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs. The movie was released in 1959. The H-Bomb was released in 1952. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Low cost minimal Rossi-effect experiment
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 8 Jun 2014 08:09:35 -0700: Hi, [snip] This hydrogen enrichment can be accomplished with a membrane which is more porous to hydrogen than to oxygen. Many tightly woven fabrics like Gore-Tex are in this category. The idea is to split the HHO into two stream, one H-rich and the other O-rich. The H-rich steam will be ported into one end of the CC and the O-rich stream can come in from a hole drilled in the side of the CC. This separation via two steams provides a supply of hot H2 to react before it is converted to steam, but in the end, it still retains all the heat of the HHO plus the added heat of Ni-H. It is a bastardized approach but it can work. There is an even simpler method. Just use ordinary DC electrolysis, where the oxygen and hydrogen are evolved at different electrodes, resulting in a complete separation from the start. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Low cost minimal Rossi-effect experiment
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:54:01 +1000, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 8 Jun 2014 08:09:35 -0700: Hi, [snip] This hydrogen enrichment can be accomplished with a membrane which is more porous to hydrogen than to oxygen. Many tightly woven fabrics like Gore-Tex are in this category. The idea is to split the HHO into two stream, one H-rich and the other O-rich. The H-rich steam will be ported into one end of the CC and the O-rich stream can come in from a hole drilled in the side of the CC. This separation via two steams provides a supply of hot H2 to react before it is converted to steam, but in the end, it still retains all the heat of the HHO plus the added heat of Ni-H. It is a bastardized approach but it can work. There is an even simpler method. Just use ordinary DC electrolysis, where the oxygen and hydrogen are evolved at different electrodes, resulting in a complete separation from the start. A gallium aluminium reaction might also be a good way to go; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JasZ8V6LpbQ the oxygen ends up bound to the aluminium so I think you should end up with fairly pure hydrogen gas.. I've seen other videos that used this (gallium) paste; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cool-laboratory-Coollaboratory-Liquid-Pro-Liquid-Metal-Thermal-Paste-/351004610402?_trksid=p2054897.l4275 just put a few drops on a strip of aluminium from an old can.. should also work for producing deuterium gas using heavy water. Rob
Re: [Vo]:Low cost minimal Rossi-effect experiment
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The first big issue is the catalysts. ... the reaction with carbon monoxide creates tetra-carbonyl nickel, which is highly toxic. Copper is illegal because of the formation of dioxin. In light of these points about tetra-carbonyl nickel and dioxin, the hobbyist attempting to carry out an experiment involving a reaction between H and nickel adsorbed onto the surface of a catalytic converter should be careful about dealing with the offgas, especially if copper turns out to be a significant byproduct of the reaction. Eric
RE: [Vo]:Low cost minimal Rossi-effect experiment
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 8 Jun 2014 08:09:35 -0700: Hi, [snip] This hydrogen enrichment can be accomplished with a membrane which is more porous to hydrogen than to oxygen. Many tightly woven fabrics like Gore-Tex are in this category. The idea is to split the HHO into two stream, one H-rich and the other O-rich. The H-rich steam will be ported into one end of the CC and the O-rich stream can come in from a hole drilled in the side of the CC. This separation via two steams provides a supply of hot H2 to react before it is converted to steam, but in the end, it still retains all the heat of the HHO plus the added heat of Ni-H. It is a bastardized approach but it can work. There is an even simpler method. Just use ordinary DC electrolysis, where the oxygen and hydrogen are evolved at different electrodes, resulting in a complete separation from the start. Hi Robin Yes, of course that would work - but most of the participants in this H-Cat thing already have the multi-plate HHO cells, which cannot be easily modified to do what you suggest. My aim was to come with a simple fix that might allow them to see Ni-H gain with what they already have in operation. BTW this guy on YT has an elaborate membrane system for separation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU6576HSrbc ...yet since complete separation is not required, a single membrane over the bubbler can do the job cheaply and quickly. If the HHO, which is normally a 2:1 ratio is partially separated into two streams, one of which is say 3:1 and the other is 1:1, then the extra hydrogen in the first stream is not only enriched but also thermally activated by the flame - which is the substitute for Rossi's resistance heat. This could allow the Ni-H reaction to proceed on the unoxidized fraction of hydrogen. Since the gain there is at least 6:1 according to Andrea Rossi, then the net efficiency which is seen now could jump from 77% well into the range of overunity... ... with the proviso according to Andrea Rossi ... which does not inspire universal confidence levels (but that may change in a couple of weeks). :-) attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
From: Axil Axil ... There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state ... Maybe... maybe not. Paraphrasing an old saying: It's not wise to divide a Russian bare before it has been killed. ...and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations. IMHO It would not be anymore Rossi's fault - not anymore than if he was in the business of manufacturing assault rifles and bullets, and some deranged lunatic decided to express his feelings by culling a populated shopping mall of half its paying customers with the gun and bullets Rossi is hypothetically responsible for having manufactured. After all the hand-wringing and recriminations have been delivered, after the last WHY DID THIS HAPPEN...AGAIN!!! is delivered by enraged and bereaved relatives, after perhaps some time later when a tiny iota of legislative sanity is finally restored within the United States and decent gun control laws are passed, in the end it will still remain, it will always remain the fault of the individual responsible for shooting the weapon, not the manufacturer of the weapon used or the bullets used. Likewise, if Putin gets his way and invests the bulk of his country's pension fund in Gazprom, and should Rossi's eCats (or some illegitimate progeny, like BLP) come to fruition, the blame will go squarely on the shoulders of Putin, not Rossi. If another revolution roils Russia back into the 17th century, the likes of which haven't been experienced since Dr. Zhivago; as disenfranchised peasants drag Putin out into the people's public square some fine below zero February winter day for an appointed meeting with a firing squad consisting of volunteers formally employed by KGB, the last words Putin is likely to hear are, You little дерьмо,why didn't you invest in eCAT? Axil, perhaps I have misunderstood the initial intent of your speculation. Perhaps you were just trying to be glib or sarcastic. (Sarcasm - I can understand and appreciate.) The point is I don't know if you really DO believe and stand by what you have stated here. With nothing to go on, all I can say is that such speculation astonishes me to no end. It strikes me as misplaced logic on a grand scale. Expressed conclusions such as these wouldn't bother me so much - except for the fact that I have found myself wondering if it is the norm rather than an aberration, particularly within my country, the United States. (Please understand, I realize you are not a United States citizen, or please correct me if I am mistaken on that matter.) What concerns me is that if such misplaced logic is more the norm, perhaps it might help explain why better gun control in the United States never seems to get passed. The fickle finger of blame never stops wagging. The finger never get pinned down. I hope you will set me straight and inform me of the fact that I had simply not perceived the sarcasm in your statement. /IMHO Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com
RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
That's a Russian bear, not bare. I should point my fickle finger of blame squarely at spellchecker, But in this case it would be passing the buck. I just didn't see my misspelling. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
Cold fusion, assuming it really does work with commonly found elements in country rock, changes the foundation of human eusociality: the campfire. I can easily imagine cultures developing in which the primary objective of a young man's secondary school education is to teach him to fabricate cold fusion fire from resources in his natural environment. On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/big-risks-seen-putins-idea-beef-gazprom-140852799--sector.html *Big risks seen in Putin's idea to beef up Gazprom* Putin wants to dump much of the Russian pension funds into Gazprom, a company often referred to as Russia's national heritage. When the E-Cat puts Gazprom out of business, Putin will be extremely pissed. And the old people in Russia will get mighty hungry. There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%
Going to start publishing updates on this blog http://rossiisreal.wordpress.com/ rather than this mailing list. Rossi is now at 30% On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: If it's interesting enough to generate a patent then it is worthwhile. The world would sit up and take notice simply because Rossi ain't a fraud, as the common notion suggests. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Another possibility is IH may have decided they don't want the world competing with them, so they gave the researchers an eCat which is just enough interesting to generate a patent but not so interesting it causes the world to sit up and take notice. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: More and more I'm beginning to wonder if we're going to get a TIP report that shows something interesting, but nowhere guaranteeing the power densities shown in the first report. While I believe that Rossi believes he has something and that IH believes they have something and that there is no fraudulent behavior going on here, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. And the middle is, yes energy, just not very exciting energy. And possibly, after some analysis, it could be just an impressive new source of chemical energy that's competitive perhaps with Rocket Fuel in the best case scenario, but in reality it's just competitive with optimal Geothermal. In this scenario, I consider the eCat not to have lived up to its promises which is why my estimate is around 35%. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Decreasing the probability to 31% based on smelly stock offering. http://freeenergyscams.com/andrea-rossi-e-cat-hydro-fusion-cashing-in-before-the-collapse/ HydroFusion is ran by Dr. Magnus Holm. Seems credible - but why didn't he wait until after the report to ask for more money? Why is Rossi doing shout outs about Dr Holm? Andrea Rossi May 18th, 2014 at 11:20 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=848cpage=1#comment-957368 Orsobubu: Thank you for your comment, that indroduces us to the paper published today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics: GEOMETRY OF STRING THEORY SOLITONS by Dr Magnus Holm . It is an important work of this scientist made in 1999, but I find his work dense of important information. It is not an easy reading, the work is rigorous, but this is the Journal of Nuclear Physics, and the paper is perfectly in line with the field of application of our Journal. Dr Magnus Holm is presently working also with me for the E-Cat. About the comment of our friend Orsobubu: I do not share his certainties regarding the so called “social sciences”. Warm Regards, A.R. This could be just really inane business strategy or perhaps Magnus just doesn't have a good contract with Rossi/IH. For those who really believe in Rossi, my suggestion would be to contact Hydro fusion and buy up as many shares as you possibly can. I think everything comes down to this report that should be coming over the next month. We could see a rise over over 20-30% on the basis of this report. Another possibility is that the report may reveal a low COP which is competitive only with geothermal and could be the result of uninteresting fuel sources. (which means a drop in probability of 10% or so) Another (unlikely in my mind) possibility is that the report will reveal that it doesn't do anything useful, which will be a drop in 25%. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Decreasing the probability to 35% based on shattering news of the Defkalion demo being completely worthless. I hesitate to say it, but It almost sounds like fraud is being implied. http://animpossibleinvention.com/2014/05/12/defkalion-demo-proven-not-to-be-reliable/ On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Decreasing probability to 46% based on lack of news from Nanor but up to 47% based on recent news from Darden in China: http://www.icebank.cn/news/detail_2.php?id=118 hat tip: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/05/09/tom-darden-involved-in-opening-of-nickel-hydrogen-energy-research-center-in-tianjin-china/ Note: I suspect there will be an up to (-30%, +15%) swing in probability when the june report comes out. Big news indeed. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Increasing the probability to 47% on the basis on Nanor / MIT videos. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Put that back to 43%: Mr. Darden earned an MRP in environmental planning from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,* a JD from Yale Law School* and a BA from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where he was a Morehead Scholar. On Fri, Jan
Re: [Vo]:Low cost minimal Rossi-effect experiment
I wrote: In light of these points about tetra-carbonyl nickel and dioxin, the hobbyist attempting to carry out an experiment involving a reaction between H and nickel adsorbed onto the surface of a catalytic converter should be careful about dealing with the offgas, especially if copper turns out to be a significant byproduct of the reaction. On second thought, these byproducts are probably not too much of a concern, as they probably require a hydrocarbon to form (e.g., gasoline). Eric
Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%
I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance that Blaze will pull his head out of his ASinine hind quarters down to 7.51%, taking into account the direction of the wind and the stock price for CYPW Cyclone Power. At least this time Blaze increased the chances of Rossi being real on the basis of stuff that had SOMEthing to do with Rossi. So, he thinks the In Mercato Veritas is a sign of unrealness rather than the OBVIOUS thing it is: an old fashioned Rossism expression of confidence. This was exactly the way Rossi used to post before his friend Focardi got cancer. When Blaze talks about the lack of news leaks, he doesn't seem to realize he's engaging in a classic fallacy of arguing from silence. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Going to start publishing updates on this blog http://rossiisreal.wordpress.com/ rather than this mailing list. Rossi is now at 30% On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: If it's interesting enough to generate a patent then it is worthwhile. The world would sit up and take notice simply because Rossi ain't a fraud, as the common notion suggests. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Another possibility is IH may have decided they don't want the world competing with them, so they gave the researchers an eCat which is just enough interesting to generate a patent but not so interesting it causes the world to sit up and take notice. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: More and more I'm beginning to wonder if we're going to get a TIP report that shows something interesting, but nowhere guaranteeing the power densities shown in the first report. While I believe that Rossi believes he has something and that IH believes they have something and that there is no fraudulent behavior going on here, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. And the middle is, yes energy, just not very exciting energy. And possibly, after some analysis, it could be just an impressive new source of chemical energy that's competitive perhaps with Rocket Fuel in the best case scenario, but in reality it's just competitive with optimal Geothermal. In this scenario, I consider the eCat not to have lived up to its promises which is why my estimate is around 35%. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Decreasing the probability to 31% based on smelly stock offering. http://freeenergyscams.com/andrea-rossi-e-cat-hydro-fusion-cashing-in-before-the-collapse/ HydroFusion is ran by Dr. Magnus Holm. Seems credible - but why didn't he wait until after the report to ask for more money? Why is Rossi doing shout outs about Dr Holm? Andrea Rossi May 18th, 2014 at 11:20 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=848cpage=1#comment-957368 Orsobubu: Thank you for your comment, that indroduces us to the paper published today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics: GEOMETRY OF STRING THEORY SOLITONS by Dr Magnus Holm . It is an important work of this scientist made in 1999, but I find his work dense of important information. It is not an easy reading, the work is rigorous, but this is the Journal of Nuclear Physics, and the paper is perfectly in line with the field of application of our Journal. Dr Magnus Holm is presently working also with me for the E-Cat. About the comment of our friend Orsobubu: I do not share his certainties regarding the so called “social sciences”. Warm Regards, A.R. This could be just really inane business strategy or perhaps Magnus just doesn't have a good contract with Rossi/IH. For those who really believe in Rossi, my suggestion would be to contact Hydro fusion and buy up as many shares as you possibly can. I think everything comes down to this report that should be coming over the next month. We could see a rise over over 20-30% on the basis of this report. Another possibility is that the report may reveal a low COP which is competitive only with geothermal and could be the result of uninteresting fuel sources. (which means a drop in probability of 10% or so) Another (unlikely in my mind) possibility is that the report will reveal that it doesn't do anything useful, which will be a drop in 25%. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Decreasing the probability to 35% based on shattering news of the Defkalion demo being completely worthless. I hesitate to say it, but It almost sounds like fraud is being implied. http://animpossibleinvention.com/2014/05/12/defkalion-demo-proven-not-to-be-reliable/ On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Decreasing probability to 46% based on lack of news from Nanor but up to 47% based on recent news from Darden in China:
Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%
Blaze's ego is astounding, thinking that he has things so well worked out that his ramblings about probability have meaning. Even if he were that good at working out probability, a few facts remain that make it worthless. 1: There is no such things as probability, things either happen or they don't. Rossi either IS real, or he is NOT real.. There is no such thing as probability in reality. 2: What is the difference between a 30% chance and a 70% chance? Answer 1: 40% Answer 2: Nothing much, both means that there is a very real possibility of it going either way. If you were invested in oil, it would mean that there is a very real risk that you must take seriously. If you are on the side of good, you know that there is an extraordinary possibility that might be worthy of attention, but might not pan out. But the difference between 0.1% chance and a 0.001% chance is huge! With the 0.1% there is a long shot, but one that could still very well pan out. Just 1 in 1,000 is not too distant odds to let one ignore something potentially significant good or bad. But 0.001 is 1 in ten million, an almost impossible long shot worthy of no attention/investment unless there are enough of these low level 'promises/threats' to bring it up to a level of relevance. John On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance that Blaze will pull his head out of his ASinine hind quarters down to 7.51%, taking into account the direction of the wind and the stock price for CYPW Cyclone Power. At least this time Blaze increased the chances of Rossi being real on the basis of stuff that had SOMEthing to do with Rossi. So, he thinks the In Mercato Veritas is a sign of unrealness rather than the OBVIOUS thing it is: an old fashioned Rossism expression of confidence. This was exactly the way Rossi used to post before his friend Focardi got cancer. When Blaze talks about the lack of news leaks, he doesn't seem to realize he's engaging in a classic fallacy of arguing from silence. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Going to start publishing updates on this blog http://rossiisreal.wordpress.com/ rather than this mailing list. Rossi is now at 30% On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: If it's interesting enough to generate a patent then it is worthwhile. The world would sit up and take notice simply because Rossi ain't a fraud, as the common notion suggests. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Another possibility is IH may have decided they don't want the world competing with them, so they gave the researchers an eCat which is just enough interesting to generate a patent but not so interesting it causes the world to sit up and take notice. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: More and more I'm beginning to wonder if we're going to get a TIP report that shows something interesting, but nowhere guaranteeing the power densities shown in the first report. While I believe that Rossi believes he has something and that IH believes they have something and that there is no fraudulent behavior going on here, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. And the middle is, yes energy, just not very exciting energy. And possibly, after some analysis, it could be just an impressive new source of chemical energy that's competitive perhaps with Rocket Fuel in the best case scenario, but in reality it's just competitive with optimal Geothermal. In this scenario, I consider the eCat not to have lived up to its promises which is why my estimate is around 35%. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Decreasing the probability to 31% based on smelly stock offering. http://freeenergyscams.com/andrea-rossi-e-cat-hydro-fusion-cashing-in-before-the-collapse/ HydroFusion is ran by Dr. Magnus Holm. Seems credible - but why didn't he wait until after the report to ask for more money? Why is Rossi doing shout outs about Dr Holm? Andrea Rossi May 18th, 2014 at 11:20 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=848cpage=1#comment-957368 Orsobubu: Thank you for your comment, that indroduces us to the paper published today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics: GEOMETRY OF STRING THEORY SOLITONS by Dr Magnus Holm . It is an important work of this scientist made in 1999, but I find his work dense of important information. It is not an easy reading, the work is rigorous, but this is the Journal of Nuclear Physics, and the paper is perfectly in line with the field of application of our Journal. Dr Magnus Holm is presently working also with me for the E-Cat. About the comment of our friend Orsobubu: I do not share his certainties regarding the so
RE: [Vo]:Low cost minimal Rossi-effect experiment
Since the only byproduct of the H-Cat operation is water, it is possible to have a completely closed-cycle with no exhaust. From: Eric Walker I wrote: In light of these points about tetra-carbonyl nickel and dioxin, the hobbyist attempting to carry out an experiment involving a reaction between H and nickel adsorbed onto the surface of a catalytic converter should be careful about dealing with the offgas, especially if copper turns out to be a significant byproduct of the reaction. On second thought, these byproducts are probably not too much of a concern, as they probably require a hydrocarbon to form (e.g., gasoline). Eric
RE: [Vo]:Low cost minimal Rossi-effect experiment
-Original Message- From: Robert McKay A gallium aluminum reaction might also be a good way to go; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JasZ8V6LpbQ This would make hydrogen, but also make it difficult to judge the efficiency. Plus, as mentioned in another post, when a fraction of the HHO is combusted, that heat (and light) can supply the threshold energy input which is needed in the Rossi reaction. At least with the HHO cell for supplying hydrogen - the input power can be read with a meter - so there is no doubt how much is going in. These cells are fairly efficient 70-75% so to reach a net level of overunity, the gainful Ni-H reaction, which happens for that fraction of hydrogen which is not burned initially, probably needs to be COP~2, but according to AR: no problemo... oops make that: nessun problema.
Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%
The E-Cat has no threshold for irrelevance. In terms of probability, the E-Cat is like a civilization killing asteroid impact on the earth. Even if there is only a 1 in ten million chance that the E-Cat is a viable paradigm changing energy device, its mass adoption will have catastrophic extinction consequence for the status quo. Sooner or later, if the E-Cat is supported by physical law, it will be built. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:12 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze's ego is astounding, thinking that he has things so well worked out that his ramblings about probability have meaning. Even if he were that good at working out probability, a few facts remain that make it worthless. 1: There is no such things as probability, things either happen or they don't. Rossi either IS real, or he is NOT real.. There is no such thing as probability in reality. 2: What is the difference between a 30% chance and a 70% chance? Answer 1: 40% Answer 2: Nothing much, both means that there is a very real possibility of it going either way. If you were invested in oil, it would mean that there is a very real risk that you must take seriously. If you are on the side of good, you know that there is an extraordinary possibility that might be worthy of attention, but might not pan out. But the difference between 0.1% chance and a 0.001% chance is huge! With the 0.1% there is a long shot, but one that could still very well pan out. Just 1 in 1,000 is not too distant odds to let one ignore something potentially significant good or bad. But 0.001 is 1 in ten million, an almost impossible long shot worthy of no attention/investment unless there are enough of these low level 'promises/threats' to bring it up to a level of relevance. John On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance that Blaze will pull his head out of his ASinine hind quarters down to 7.51%, taking into account the direction of the wind and the stock price for CYPW Cyclone Power. At least this time Blaze increased the chances of Rossi being real on the basis of stuff that had SOMEthing to do with Rossi. So, he thinks the In Mercato Veritas is a sign of unrealness rather than the OBVIOUS thing it is: an old fashioned Rossism expression of confidence. This was exactly the way Rossi used to post before his friend Focardi got cancer. When Blaze talks about the lack of news leaks, he doesn't seem to realize he's engaging in a classic fallacy of arguing from silence. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Going to start publishing updates on this blog http://rossiisreal.wordpress.com/ rather than this mailing list. Rossi is now at 30% On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: If it's interesting enough to generate a patent then it is worthwhile. The world would sit up and take notice simply because Rossi ain't a fraud, as the common notion suggests. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Another possibility is IH may have decided they don't want the world competing with them, so they gave the researchers an eCat which is just enough interesting to generate a patent but not so interesting it causes the world to sit up and take notice. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: More and more I'm beginning to wonder if we're going to get a TIP report that shows something interesting, but nowhere guaranteeing the power densities shown in the first report. While I believe that Rossi believes he has something and that IH believes they have something and that there is no fraudulent behavior going on here, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. And the middle is, yes energy, just not very exciting energy. And possibly, after some analysis, it could be just an impressive new source of chemical energy that's competitive perhaps with Rocket Fuel in the best case scenario, but in reality it's just competitive with optimal Geothermal. In this scenario, I consider the eCat not to have lived up to its promises which is why my estimate is around 35%. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Decreasing the probability to 31% based on smelly stock offering. http://freeenergyscams.com/andrea-rossi-e-cat-hydro-fusion-cashing-in-before-the-collapse/ HydroFusion is ran by Dr. Magnus Holm. Seems credible - but why didn't he wait until after the report to ask for more money? Why is Rossi doing shout outs about Dr Holm? Andrea Rossi May 18th, 2014 at 11:20 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=848cpage=1#comment-957368 Orsobubu: Thank you for your comment, that indroduces us to the paper published today on the Journal of Nuclear
[Vo]:The Controversial Physics of Curling
The curling controversy continues. :-) COLD HARD SCIENCE. The Controversial Physics of Curling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUojMQgDpM BTW I have done my own tests with three metal cylinders each with different diameter-to-height ratios on two different surfaces (synthetic ice and melamine). I can get them to curl in the same direction as a curling stone on ice as long as they only complete one-quarter of revolution. If they complete more revolutions they would curl just like the over turned glass shown in the above video. Harry
Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.
http://news.yahoo.com/indians-riot-heat-wave-prompts-power-cuts-064032820.html Indians riot as heat wave prompts power cuts Energy is more important than food in a warming world. The man who provides power, provides water, and food, and comfort from the heat and cold. The man who provides power, enables life. Putin wants to be that man. Putin wants to control this energy weapon. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From: Axil Axil ... There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state ... Maybe... maybe not. Paraphrasing an old saying: It's not wise to divide a Russian bare before it has been killed. ...and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations. IMHO It would not be anymore Rossi's fault - not anymore than if he was in the business of manufacturing assault rifles and bullets, and some deranged lunatic decided to express his feelings by culling a populated shopping mall of half its paying customers with the gun and bullets Rossi is hypothetically responsible for having manufactured. After all the hand-wringing and recriminations have been delivered, after the last WHY DID THIS HAPPEN...AGAIN!!! is delivered by enraged and bereaved relatives, after perhaps some time later when a tiny iota of legislative sanity is finally restored within the United States and decent gun control laws are passed, in the end it will still remain, it will always remain the fault of the individual responsible for shooting the weapon, not the manufacturer of the weapon used or the bullets used. Likewise, if Putin gets his way and invests the bulk of his country's pension fund in Gazprom, and should Rossi's eCats (or some illegitimate progeny, like BLP) come to fruition, the blame will go squarely on the shoulders of Putin, not Rossi. If another revolution roils Russia back into the 17th century, the likes of which haven't been experienced since Dr. Zhivago; as disenfranchised peasants drag Putin out into the people's public square some fine below zero February winter day for an appointed meeting with a firing squad consisting of volunteers formally employed by KGB, the last words Putin is likely to hear are, You little дерьмо,why didn't you invest in eCAT? Axil, perhaps I have misunderstood the initial intent of your speculation. Perhaps you were just trying to be glib or sarcastic. (Sarcasm - I can understand and appreciate.) The point is I don't know if you really DO believe and stand by what you have stated here. With nothing to go on, all I can say is that such speculation astonishes me to no end. It strikes me as misplaced logic on a grand scale. Expressed conclusions such as these wouldn't bother me so much - except for the fact that I have found myself wondering if it is the norm rather than an aberration, particularly within my country, the United States. (Please understand, I realize you are not a United States citizen, or please correct me if I am mistaken on that matter.) What concerns me is that if such misplaced logic is more the norm, perhaps it might help explain why better gun control in the United States never seems to get passed. The fickle finger of blame never stops wagging. The finger never get pinned down. I hope you will set me straight and inform me of the fact that I had simply not perceived the sarcasm in your statement. /IMHO Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com
Re: [Vo]:Low cost minimal Rossi-effect experiment
In reply to Robert McKay's message of Sun, 08 Jun 2014 23:14:55 +0100: Hi, [snip] A gallium aluminium reaction might also be a good way to go; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JasZ8V6LpbQ the oxygen ends up bound to the aluminium so I think you should end up with fairly pure hydrogen gas.. I've seen other videos that used this (gallium) paste; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cool-laboratory-Coollaboratory-Liquid-Pro-Liquid-Metal-Thermal-Paste-/351004610402?_trksid=p2054897.l4275 just put a few drops on a strip of aluminium from an old can.. should also work for producing deuterium gas using heavy water. You can also just add Aluminium (in any metallic form), to an alkaline solution. Pure Hydrogen evolves rapidly and readily. This works great with caustic soda, but would probably also work well with Ammonia, and maybe even with a warm washing soda solution (Sodium Carbonate). Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: How do you view the decision to not build a higher sea wall? Unfortunate. But understandable. The previous tsunami of this magnitude occurred in 869 AD. There were records of it, and even man-markers of the high water mark. But I think experts assumed the ancient records were exaggerations. See: http://www.pri.org/stories/2012-01-17/scientist-warned-tsunami-disaster-japan http://www.pri.org/stories/2012-01-17/scientist-warned-tsunami-disaster-japan I have heard they are now going back and reviewing these ancient records and paying closer attention than they did before the disaster. In retrospect, I think they should have moved the emergency generator fuel tanks to a safer location. That would not have prevented damage to the facility, but it would have stopped the event from spiraling into a disaster. It would be cheaper and faster than building a better seawall, I think. It would take a gigantic seawall to stop this, judging by the videos of the tsunami striking the plant. Yes Was it an acceptable cost vs risk tradeoff or a criminal mistake? I do not think it was criminal. Responsibility is too dispersed. Obviously, in retrospect, it was not acceptable. I do not know how I might have judged it before the event. Hindsight is easy. - Jed It seems nulcear plants built after the Fukushima plant and along the same stretch of coast were deliberately built at higher elevations. Ironically there was a natural sea wall which would have protected the Fukushima plant from the tidal wave, but it was razed during construction of the plant: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/11/tepco-destroyed-the-natural-seawall-which-would-have-protected-fukushima-from-the-tsunami.html Harry
Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%
Put a gun to my head with 10,000,000 chambers and a bullet in only one of them selected at random and offer me $100 every time I pull the trigger, I would pull that trigger a number of times. Why? Well obviously I could use the money, and more-so the risk of dying from getting in a car to go to any work place and working in that place and coming home would be about that anyway. And this would be a lot faster. The rates are apparently about 1.5 per 100 million vehicle miles, considering that you must drive to and from work multiple miles and include the risk of work (highly variable, but it is a 100% time/life suck either way) that makes this game of long odds Russian Roulette quite attractive by comparison. Pro Tip: Bus's are 30 times safer than private vehicles. I don't think it is possible to track 10,000,000 odd long shots which would probably include Nessie leaving the Loch and taking the Rothchilds out before going on tour. Ok, maybe that is slightly longer odds, but only a bit. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The E-Cat has no threshold for irrelevance. In terms of probability, the E-Cat is like a civilization killing asteroid impact on the earth. Even if there is only a 1 in ten million chance that the E-Cat is a viable paradigm changing energy device, its mass adoption will have catastrophic extinction consequence for the status quo. Sooner or later, if the E-Cat is supported by physical law, it will be built. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:12 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze's ego is astounding, thinking that he has things so well worked out that his ramblings about probability have meaning. Even if he were that good at working out probability, a few facts remain that make it worthless. 1: There is no such things as probability, things either happen or they don't. Rossi either IS real, or he is NOT real.. There is no such thing as probability in reality. 2: What is the difference between a 30% chance and a 70% chance? Answer 1: 40% Answer 2: Nothing much, both means that there is a very real possibility of it going either way. If you were invested in oil, it would mean that there is a very real risk that you must take seriously. If you are on the side of good, you know that there is an extraordinary possibility that might be worthy of attention, but might not pan out. But the difference between 0.1% chance and a 0.001% chance is huge! With the 0.1% there is a long shot, but one that could still very well pan out. Just 1 in 1,000 is not too distant odds to let one ignore something potentially significant good or bad. But 0.001 is 1 in ten million, an almost impossible long shot worthy of no attention/investment unless there are enough of these low level 'promises/threats' to bring it up to a level of relevance. John On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance that Blaze will pull his head out of his ASinine hind quarters down to 7.51%, taking into account the direction of the wind and the stock price for CYPW Cyclone Power. At least this time Blaze increased the chances of Rossi being real on the basis of stuff that had SOMEthing to do with Rossi. So, he thinks the In Mercato Veritas is a sign of unrealness rather than the OBVIOUS thing it is: an old fashioned Rossism expression of confidence. This was exactly the way Rossi used to post before his friend Focardi got cancer. When Blaze talks about the lack of news leaks, he doesn't seem to realize he's engaging in a classic fallacy of arguing from silence. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Going to start publishing updates on this blog http://rossiisreal.wordpress.com/ rather than this mailing list. Rossi is now at 30% On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: If it's interesting enough to generate a patent then it is worthwhile. The world would sit up and take notice simply because Rossi ain't a fraud, as the common notion suggests. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Another possibility is IH may have decided they don't want the world competing with them, so they gave the researchers an eCat which is just enough interesting to generate a patent but not so interesting it causes the world to sit up and take notice. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: More and more I'm beginning to wonder if we're going to get a TIP report that shows something interesting, but nowhere guaranteeing the power densities shown in the first report. While I believe that Rossi believes he has something and that IH believes they have something and that there is no fraudulent behavior going on here, I think the truth is somewhere in
Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%
Oh, and you are more likely to die from an infection caught in hospital than die from all forms of accident combined. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:39 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Put a gun to my head with 10,000,000 chambers and a bullet in only one of them selected at random and offer me $100 every time I pull the trigger, I would pull that trigger a number of times. Why? Well obviously I could use the money, and more-so the risk of dying from getting in a car to go to any work place and working in that place and coming home would be about that anyway. And this would be a lot faster. The rates are apparently about 1.5 per 100 million vehicle miles, considering that you must drive to and from work multiple miles and include the risk of work (highly variable, but it is a 100% time/life suck either way) that makes this game of long odds Russian Roulette quite attractive by comparison. Pro Tip: Bus's are 30 times safer than private vehicles. I don't think it is possible to track 10,000,000 odd long shots which would probably include Nessie leaving the Loch and taking the Rothchilds out before going on tour. Ok, maybe that is slightly longer odds, but only a bit. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The E-Cat has no threshold for irrelevance. In terms of probability, the E-Cat is like a civilization killing asteroid impact on the earth. Even if there is only a 1 in ten million chance that the E-Cat is a viable paradigm changing energy device, its mass adoption will have catastrophic extinction consequence for the status quo. Sooner or later, if the E-Cat is supported by physical law, it will be built. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:12 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze's ego is astounding, thinking that he has things so well worked out that his ramblings about probability have meaning. Even if he were that good at working out probability, a few facts remain that make it worthless. 1: There is no such things as probability, things either happen or they don't. Rossi either IS real, or he is NOT real.. There is no such thing as probability in reality. 2: What is the difference between a 30% chance and a 70% chance? Answer 1: 40% Answer 2: Nothing much, both means that there is a very real possibility of it going either way. If you were invested in oil, it would mean that there is a very real risk that you must take seriously. If you are on the side of good, you know that there is an extraordinary possibility that might be worthy of attention, but might not pan out. But the difference between 0.1% chance and a 0.001% chance is huge! With the 0.1% there is a long shot, but one that could still very well pan out. Just 1 in 1,000 is not too distant odds to let one ignore something potentially significant good or bad. But 0.001 is 1 in ten million, an almost impossible long shot worthy of no attention/investment unless there are enough of these low level 'promises/threats' to bring it up to a level of relevance. John On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance that Blaze will pull his head out of his ASinine hind quarters down to 7.51%, taking into account the direction of the wind and the stock price for CYPW Cyclone Power. At least this time Blaze increased the chances of Rossi being real on the basis of stuff that had SOMEthing to do with Rossi. So, he thinks the In Mercato Veritas is a sign of unrealness rather than the OBVIOUS thing it is: an old fashioned Rossism expression of confidence. This was exactly the way Rossi used to post before his friend Focardi got cancer. When Blaze talks about the lack of news leaks, he doesn't seem to realize he's engaging in a classic fallacy of arguing from silence. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Going to start publishing updates on this blog http://rossiisreal.wordpress.com/ rather than this mailing list. Rossi is now at 30% On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: If it's interesting enough to generate a patent then it is worthwhile. The world would sit up and take notice simply because Rossi ain't a fraud, as the common notion suggests. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Another possibility is IH may have decided they don't want the world competing with them, so they gave the researchers an eCat which is just enough interesting to generate a patent but not so interesting it causes the world to sit up and take notice. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: More and more I'm beginning to wonder if we're going to get a TIP report that shows something interesting, but nowhere guaranteeing the power densities shown
