The E-Cat has no threshold for irrelevance. In terms of probability, the
E-Cat is like a civilization killing asteroid impact on the earth. Even if
there is only a 1 in ten million chance that the E-Cat is a viable paradigm
changing energy device, its mass adoption will have catastrophic extinction
consequence for the status quo.

Sooner or later, if the E-Cat is supported by physical law, it will be
built.


On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:12 PM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Blaze's ego is astounding, thinking that he has things so well worked out
> that his ramblings about probability have meaning.
>
> Even if he were that good at working out probability, a few facts remain
> that make it worthless.
>
> 1: There is no such things as probability, things either happen or they
> don't. Rossi either IS real, or he is NOT real..
> There is no such thing as probability in reality.
>
> 2: What is the difference between a 30% chance and a 70% chance?
> Answer 1: 40%
> Answer 2: Nothing much, both means that there is a very real possibility
> of it going either way.
> If you were invested in oil, it would mean that there is a very real risk
> that you must take seriously.
> If you are on the side of good, you know that there is an extraordinary
> possibility that might be worthy of attention, but might not pan out.
>
> But the difference between 0.1% chance and a 0.0000001% chance is huge!
> With the 0.1% there is a long shot, but one that could still very well pan
> out. Just 1 in 1,000 is not too distant odds to let one ignore something
> potentially significant good or bad.
>
> But 0.0000001 is 1 in ten million, an almost impossible long shot worthy
> of no attention/investment unless there are enough of these low level
> 'promises/threats' to bring it up to a level of relevance.
>
> John
>
>
>
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>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance
>> that Blaze will pull his head out of his ASinine "hind quarters" down to
>> 7.51%, taking into account the direction of the wind and the stock price for 
>> CYPW Cyclone Power.
>>
>>  At least this time Blaze increased the chances of Rossi being real
>> on the basis of stuff that had SOMEthing to do with Rossi.
>>
>> So, he thinks the In Mercato Veritas is a sign of unrealness rather than the 
>> OBVIOUS thing it is:
>>  an old fashioned Rossism expression of confidence.  This was exactly the 
>> way Rossi used to post
>>
>>
>> before his friend Focardi got cancer.
>>
>> When Blaze talks about the lack of news leaks, he doesn't seem to realize 
>> he's engaging in a classic
>> fallacy of arguing from silence.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Going to start publishing updates on this blog
>>> http://rossiisreal.wordpress.com/ rather than this mailing list.
>>>
>>> Rossi is now at 30%
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it's interesting enough to generate a patent then it is worthwhile.
>>>> The world would sit up and take notice simply because Rossi ain't a fraud,
>>>> as the common notion suggests.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Another possibility is IH may have decided they don't want the world
>>>>> competing with them, so they gave the researchers an eCat which is just
>>>>> enough interesting to generate a patent but not so interesting it causes
>>>>> the world to sit up and take notice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> More and more I'm beginning to wonder if we're going to get a TIP
>>>>>> report that shows something interesting, but nowhere guaranteeing the 
>>>>>> power
>>>>>> densities shown in the first report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I believe that Rossi believes he has something and that IH
>>>>>> believes they have something and that there is no fraudulent behavior 
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> on here, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the middle is, yes energy, just not very exciting energy.  And
>>>>>> possibly, after some analysis, it could be just an impressive new source 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> chemical energy that's competitive perhaps with Rocket Fuel in the best
>>>>>> case scenario, but in reality it's just competitive with optimal 
>>>>>> Geothermal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this scenario, I consider the eCat not to have lived up to its
>>>>>> promises which is why my estimate is around 35%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Decreasing the probability to 31% based on smelly stock offering.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://freeenergyscams.com/andrea-rossi-e-cat-hydro-fusion-cashing-in-before-the-collapse/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HydroFusion is ran by Dr. Magnus Holm.  Seems credible - but why
>>>>>>> didn't he wait until after the report to ask for more money?  Why is 
>>>>>>> Rossi
>>>>>>> doing shout outs about Dr Holm?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrea Rossi
>>>>>>> May 18th, 2014 at 11:20 PM
>>>>>>> <http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=848&cpage=1#comment-957368>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Orsobubu:
>>>>>>> Thank you for your comment, that indroduces us to the paper
>>>>>>> published today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics:
>>>>>>> GEOMETRY OF STRING THEORY SOLITONS
>>>>>>> by Dr Magnus Holm . It is an important work of this scientist made
>>>>>>> in 1999, but I find his work dense of important information. It is not 
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> easy reading, the work is rigorous, but this is the Journal of Nuclear
>>>>>>> Physics, and the paper is perfectly in line with the field of 
>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>> of our Journal. Dr Magnus Holm is presently working also with me for the
>>>>>>> E-Cat.
>>>>>>> About the comment of our friend Orsobubu: I do not share his
>>>>>>> certainties regarding the so called “social sciences”.
>>>>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>>>>> A.R.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could be just really inane business strategy or perhaps Magnus
>>>>>>> just doesn't have a good contract with Rossi/IH.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those who really believe in Rossi, my suggestion would be to
>>>>>>> contact Hydro fusion and buy up as many shares as you possibly can.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think everything comes down to this report that should be coming
>>>>>>> over the next month.   We could see a rise over over 20-30% on the 
>>>>>>> basis of
>>>>>>> this report.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another possibility is that the report may reveal a low COP which is
>>>>>>> competitive only with geothermal and could be the result of 
>>>>>>> uninteresting
>>>>>>> fuel sources. (which means a drop in probability of 10% or so)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another (unlikely in my mind) possibility is that the report will
>>>>>>> reveal that it doesn't do anything useful, which will be a drop in 25%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Decreasing the probability to 35% based on shattering news of the
>>>>>>>> Defkalion demo being completely worthless.  I hesitate to say it, but 
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> almost sounds like fraud is being implied.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://animpossibleinvention.com/2014/05/12/defkalion-demo-proven-not-to-be-reliable/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Decreasing probability to 46% based on lack of news from Nanor but
>>>>>>>>> up to 47% based on recent news from Darden in China:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.icebank.cn/news/detail_2.php?id=118
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hat tip:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/05/09/tom-darden-involved-in-opening-of-nickel-hydrogen-energy-research-center-in-tianjin-china/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note:  I suspect there will be an up to (-30%, +15%) swing in
>>>>>>>>> probability when the june report comes out.  Big news indeed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Increasing the probability to 47% on the basis on Nanor / MIT
>>>>>>>>>> videos.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Put that back to 43%:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Darden earned an MRP in environmental planning from the
>>>>>>>>>>> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,* a JD from Yale
>>>>>>>>>>> Law School* and a BA from the University of North Carolina at
>>>>>>>>>>> Chapel Hill, where he was a Morehead Scholar.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Correction, make that 41%.  It's not Cherokee but rather  Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>> Darden (investor, co founder of Cherokee) and Mr. Vaughn (senior 
>>>>>>>>>>>> analyst at
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cherokee, BA Economics)  who are the players here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It'd be good to find out who those other investors are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Increasing the probability to 44% on the basis of Cherokee PR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Big big BIG news.   Now this is no longer about Rossi, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about Cherokee.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know you guys think I'm a git for my doubt, but hey, my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> model is waaaay ahead of the curve than the vast majority of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> investing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> universe.    XOM is still trading near historical highs, for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Increasing the probability back to 35% based on the latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news coming out of BLP and McKubre.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hopefully we'll see some more encouraging things soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next indie report on the ecat should be an interesting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inflection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fulvio , the tech Director & R.D. at Leonardo Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIAMI - FL - USA previous job was:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> " Frelance Consultant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&title=Frelance+Consultant&sortCriteria=R&keepFacets=true&currentTitle=CP&trk=prof-exp-title>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaming and Gambling Tech Market
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&company=European+Gaming+and+Gambling+Tech+Market&sortCriteria=R&keepFacets=true&trk=prof-exp-company-name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -4%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now back to 31%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is based on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - STMicro patent (Increased about 4.5%)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Cherokee Investments (Increased about 2.5%)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Rossi stating third party reports in March (increased
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    2%)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Lack of news from Defkalion (-1%)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> News seems to be coming in fairly rapidly at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could be updating this probability more frequently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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