[Vo]:It must be magnetism
On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare. Read more at: http://phys.org/news201795438.html#jCp The unknown force from the sun must not only increase nuclear decay rates but reduce them. This is an important clue to the nature of this unknown factor. Radioactive decay rates must be embedded in an environment that defines its nature. That environment can be increased or decreased based on solar activity and in fact is defined by solar activity. The sun must provide an average background flux that directly affects the rates of decay. Various parts of the sun contribute to this background. This background comes from the core of the sun, but it can also be effected by localized regions on the sun’s surface. It must be magnetism. Here is why… The high magnetic fields in the sunspot-producing active regions also give rise to explosions known as solar flares. When the twisted field lines cross and reconnect, energy explodes outward with a force exceeding that of millions of hydrogen bombs. Temperatures in the outer layer of the sun, known as the corona, typically fall around a few million kelvins. As solar flares push through the corona, they heat its gas to anywhere from 10 to 20 million K, occasionally reaching as high as a hundred million. Because solar flares form in the same active regions as sunspots, they are connected to these smaller, less violent events. Flares tend to follow the same 11-year cycle. At the peak of the cycle, several flares may occur each day, with an average lifetime of only 10 minutes. Solar flares vary in size and power. The largest, X-class flares have the most significant effect on Earth. They can cause long-lasting radiation storms in the upper atmosphere, and trigger radio blackouts. Medium-size M-class flares can cause brief radio blackouts in the Polar Regions and the occasional minor radiation storms. C-class flares have few noticeable consequences. Absorbing X-rays affects the atmosphere. The increase in heat and energy result in an expansion of the Earth's ionosphere. Man-made radio waves travel through this portion of the upper atmosphere, so radio communications can be disturbed by its sudden unpredictable growth. Similarly, satellites previously circling through vacuum-free space can find themselves caught in the expanded sphere. The resulting friction slows down their orbit, and can bring them back to Earth sooner than intended. Despite their size and high energy, solar flares are almost never visible optically. The bright emission of the surrounding photosphere, where the sun's light originates, tends to overshadow even these explosive phenomena. Radio and optical emissions can be observed on Earth. What I am saying in so many words is that solar flares are very powerful. Clearly, a tremendous amount of magnetic energy is converted in an instant to all the aforementioned energetic phenomena at the expense of the magnetic output of the sun. The sun stores vast amounts of energy in its magnetic fields. A sudden release and conversion of that energy will reduce that magnetic energy storehouse and consequentially reduce the magnetic background around earth that defines the rate of radioactive decay.
Re: [Vo]:X-Files of Southern New Hampshire
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:05:54 -0700: Hi, [snip] What is it about this geographic area in the context of alternative energy inventors and LENR? 1) Gene Mallove 2) Andrea Rossi 3) Les Case 4) Arthur Manelas 5) Dean Kamen 6) Mark LeClair (one town over in Maine) 7) Christopher Cooper (now in Vermont) Probably others. Cool head, cool ideas. :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities?
In reply to Jack Cole's message of Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:40:40 -0500: Hi, [snip] If we assume BLP's SunCell works as advertised, it would seem to me that they need to design something better for the ignition process than pouring particles over the rollers. I don't see how that could ever be made reliable, but that might just be a limitation of my imagination. It seems to me that electrolysis is a necessary part of the process (although happening with a small amount of water). It seems like an alternative process would be an electrolytic cell with electrodes made out of the correct material. This would result in conversion to thermal energy, which would probably be less efficient than converting light to electricity if that's the goal. But if heat is the goal then I think it should be considered--in particular if it would be more reliable. I realize I am making a lot of assumptions (even that it works), but it would seem to be worth exploring. I ordered a spot welder recently, which should arrive soon, and I will attempt some experiments. It won't have the same level of power that BLP's has, so it may not work. In one video, Mills did note that in the experiment without the rollers that 3KW or 5J was enough to ignite the process. This is an 8KVA model, so maybe something interesting can happen. Best regards, Jack Note that 5 J implies only supplying 3 kW for 1.7 mS. So you will need either some electronic means of rapidly switching the power, or a fast mechanical way. Perhaps the rollers themselves can be made to do the switching - alternating conducting and insulating strips, then rotate at the correct speed? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities?
I think maybe BLP is relying on the spot welder's frequency of 33hz (at least for some of the experiments). But, yes, I think I'll need to replace the mechanical switch with an SSR or other means of switching so it can be automated in controlling when it fires. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:43 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jack Cole's message of Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:40:40 -0500: Hi, [snip] If we assume BLP's SunCell works as advertised, it would seem to me that they need to design something better for the ignition process than pouring particles over the rollers. I don't see how that could ever be made reliable, but that might just be a limitation of my imagination. It seems to me that electrolysis is a necessary part of the process (although happening with a small amount of water). It seems like an alternative process would be an electrolytic cell with electrodes made out of the correct material. This would result in conversion to thermal energy, which would probably be less efficient than converting light to electricity if that's the goal. But if heat is the goal then I think it should be considered--in particular if it would be more reliable. I realize I am making a lot of assumptions (even that it works), but it would seem to be worth exploring. I ordered a spot welder recently, which should arrive soon, and I will attempt some experiments. It won't have the same level of power that BLP's has, so it may not work. In one video, Mills did note that in the experiment without the rollers that 3KW or 5J was enough to ignite the process. This is an 8KVA model, so maybe something interesting can happen. Best regards, Jack Note that 5 J implies only supplying 3 kW for 1.7 mS. So you will need either some electronic means of rapidly switching the power, or a fast mechanical way. Perhaps the rollers themselves can be made to do the switching - alternating conducting and insulating strips, then rotate at the correct speed? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
RE: [Vo]:global warming?
From Eric: ... The argument eventually dies down and people find something else to argue about. One of the quincentennial interpretations of this all-too-human condition was best depicted in the ground breaking film, The Truman Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zYn-HHcyA Skip over to three minute fifty second mark, 3:50. Everything is explained in the final 10 seconds (5:00-5:10). Enjoy a little nostalgia! Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities?
In case it was missed, Dr. Mills mentions the fact that they use a huge amount of amperage to generate the explosion. Voltage, OTOH, is extremely low. I assume this is not a normal configuration spot welder equipment uses. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Phys.org- Splitting Water- Nickel at 1.5 volts
Not sure IF this is news: http://phys.org/news/2014-08-scientists-splitter-ordinary-aaa-battery.html Ron Kita, Chiralex
Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities?
The important factor is instansious power(IP). High amperage can produce the required level of IP, or high voltage can, or the duration of the pulse can be shortened. To get the best COP, a very high voltage pulse...say 5 million volts, that is pulsed for under a nanosecond will provide the required results with the best COP. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: In case it was missed, Dr. Mills mentions the fact that they use a huge amount of amperage to generate the explosion. Voltage, OTOH, is extremely low. I assume this is not a normal configuration spot welder equipment uses. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:It must be magnetism
I was expecting for you to suggest that particles were being formed on or very near the sun by the intense magnetic field. These undefined particles would then propagate to the earth and wreak havoc on radioactive materials. But instead you seem to imply that the extremely weak field due to solar winds is the culprit. The relatively weak local field changes do not pass the smell test to me because it would be quite easy for a scientist to simulate that environment in his laboratory and I would be surprised to find that this has not been attempted. The variation in radioactive decay associated with magnetic fields must be documented although I am not aware of any papers about that subject. Another explanation for the possible modification in radioactivity is the neutrino flux variations arising from within the sun. As we know, these little fellows are generated in enormous numbers due to fusion reactions within the sun and can penetrate great expanses of matter before causing interactions that we know how to measure. Since they originate within a nucleus it does not take too much imagination to suspect that they might effect other nuclei during their travel. Perhaps they impart a nudge upon a nucleus that is holding energy in such a manner as to increase the probability that it might emit the radioactive particle of choice. This type of effect would show up much as you have described and would otherwise be extremely difficult to measure. The question that immediately comes to mind is why would the magnetic structures seen on and within the sun cause a change to the flux of neutrinos? We know for sure that the magnetic tubes associated with sun spots are relatively tiny when compared to the sun's surface and that they penetrate deeply into the star. Just how deep into the sun they reach is debatable but where ever they reach must be affected by their intense nature. Could it be that the local fusion reaction is enhanced by the extra energy imparted to small volumes of the sun by these magnetic tubes? The increased reactions would then lead to a larger number of neutrinos being emitted which leads to the radioactive variation. A scenario such as this would suggest that the neutrino emission rate of the sun might have a high frequency component that is immersed within the relatively larger low frequency rate that we normally measure. It could be hidden to us due to the rare occurrence of detected neutrinos under normal conditions. I suspect that our best techniques can only determine the average neutrino flux due to the infrequent interaction of these elusive particles. The average rate of production of these neutrinos would define the average rate of energy production from solar fusion and everything would seem to be in order according to our present understanding of how energy is released within the sun. But, in actuality it might be found that the energy is generated in a more complex burst type nature. This is not unlike what some of us observe when we measure LENR systems. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 2:17 am Subject: [Vo]:It must be magnetism On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare. Read more at: http://phys.org/news201795438.html#jCp The unknown force from the sun must not only increase nuclear decay rates but reduce them. This is an important clue to the nature of this unknown factor. Radioactive decay rates must be embedded in an environment that defines its nature. That environment can be increased or decreased based on solar activity and in fact is defined by solar activity. The sun must provide an average background flux that directly affects the rates of decay. Various parts of the sun contribute to this background. This background comes from the core of the sun, but it can also be effected by localized regions on the sun’s surface. It must be magnetism. Here is why… The high magnetic fields in the sunspot-producing active regions also give rise to explosions known as solar flares. When the twisted field lines cross and reconnect, energy explodes outward with a force exceeding that of millions of hydrogen bombs. Temperatures in the outer layer of the sun, known as the corona, typically fall around a few million kelvins. As solar flares push through the corona, they heat its gas to anywhere from 10 to 20 million K, occasionally reaching as high as a hundred million. Because solar flares form in the same active regions as sunspots, they are connected to these smaller,
Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Skip over to three minute fifty second mark, 3:50. Everything is explained in the final 10 seconds (5:00-5:10). I saw it more of an escaping from the placenta thing, with a large cheering audience. Next time viewing on the [boobtube? flatscreen? interesting contrast] is sparse try this: http://www.reddit.com/r/fullmoviesongoogle/ I think you have to have a google+ account for it to work.
Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities?
The material through which the current flows determines the voltage appearing across its terminals. This can be adjusted over a significant range by playing with the geometry of the structure. If magnetic fields enter into the equation then it is important to make the trade off such that the current is increased at the expense of voltage. I am under the impression that Mills uses the large current to enhance his reaction and goes to a lot of effort to achieve that goal. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 12:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities? The important factor is instansious power(IP). High amperage can produce the required level of IP, or high voltage can, or the duration of the pulse can be shortened. To get the best COP, a very high voltage pulse...say 5 million volts, that is pulsed for under a nanosecond will provide the required results with the best COP. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Incase it was missed, Dr. Mills mentions the fact that they use a huge amount ofamperage to generate the explosion. Voltage, OTOH, is extremely low. I assumethis is not a normal configuration spot welder equipment uses. Regards, StevenVincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
This latest Va’vra paper could be an extremely important stimulus for and evolving LENR version of the DDL. It is chock full of detail that bears reading and rereading. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf Although the DDL transition is at 511 keV is the focus this paper, which is ostensibly ruled out for LENR (looked for and not found) … the discussion of the lower x-ray ranges from 2.5-4 keV are still in play, although it is not certain how they would be evidenced in a working reactor. In short, the DDL of Naudts at 3.7 keV is definitely still a player for an emerging theory, as mentioned in this paper. Given the similarity of this higher 511 keV value to positron annihilation, it would be interesting to try to fit this into Don Hotson’s theory. Too bad Don is not around to do that but others may take up the cause. It almost seems possible that some of what passes for Wheeler’s “quantum foam” in not virtual positronium, per se, but DDL hydrogen. From: Bob Higgins * I did some additional research to find Dr. Va'vra. I found his email and asked him about the latter 3 papers. Here was his interesting response: However, there is a problem with all these types of calculations. They use a 1920-1930 quantum mechanics. The correct treatment must use QED. There were attempts to do that, and I mention that in my more recent ArXiv paper: 1304.0833v3. Mills used fractional quantum numbers. That is a no no for the classical quantum mechanics. So, I consider his method wrong. Regards, Jerry * Dr. Va'vra has a 2013 ArXiv paper (http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf) - I think it is a fascinating fit to this thread. If someone else already cited this, I apologize for the duplication. Bob Higgins attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [Vo]:It must be magnetism
*http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-08/strange-solar-particles-might-be-affecting-earths-radioactive-materials-scientists-say?src=relatedcon=outbrainobref=obinsite http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-08/strange-solar-particles-might-be-affecting-earths-radioactive-materials-scientists-say?src=relatedcon=outbrainobref=obinsite* *While examining data on radioactive isotopes, Purdue researchers found disagreement in measured decay rates, which goes against the long-accepted belief that these rates are constant. While searching for an explanation, the scientists came across other research that noted seasonal variation in these decay rates. Apparently radioactivity is stronger in winter than in summer* There is another correlation that might be magnetic in nature. This relationship involves seanoal variation based on hemisphere of the earth. However, As EMF radiation, I would expect magnetic power to be absorbed just as light and heat would with more power absorbed in summer than in winter. However, it is not clear what the detailed seasonal relationship is from the article. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:41 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I was expecting for you to suggest that particles were being formed on or very near the sun by the intense magnetic field. These undefined particles would then propagate to the earth and wreak havoc on radioactive materials. But instead you seem to imply that the extremely weak field due to solar winds is the culprit. The relatively weak local field changes do not pass the smell test to me because it would be quite easy for a scientist to simulate that environment in his laboratory and I would be surprised to find that this has not been attempted. The variation in radioactive decay associated with magnetic fields must be documented although I am not aware of any papers about that subject. Another explanation for the possible modification in radioactivity is the neutrino flux variations arising from within the sun. As we know, these little fellows are generated in enormous numbers due to fusion reactions within the sun and can penetrate great expanses of matter before causing interactions that we know how to measure. Since they originate within a nucleus it does not take too much imagination to suspect that they might effect other nuclei during their travel. Perhaps they impart a nudge upon a nucleus that is holding energy in such a manner as to increase the probability that it might emit the radioactive particle of choice. This type of effect would show up much as you have described and would otherwise be extremely difficult to measure. The question that immediately comes to mind is why would the magnetic structures seen on and within the sun cause a change to the flux of neutrinos? We know for sure that the magnetic tubes associated with sun spots are relatively tiny when compared to the sun's surface and that they penetrate deeply into the star. Just how deep into the sun they reach is debatable but where ever they reach must be affected by their intense nature. Could it be that the local fusion reaction is enhanced by the extra energy imparted to small volumes of the sun by these magnetic tubes? The increased reactions would then lead to a larger number of neutrinos being emitted which leads to the radioactive variation. A scenario such as this would suggest that the neutrino emission rate of the sun might have a high frequency component that is immersed within the relatively larger low frequency rate that we normally measure. It could be hidden to us due to the rare occurrence of detected neutrinos under normal conditions. I suspect that our best techniques can only determine the average neutrino flux due to the infrequent interaction of these elusive particles. The average rate of production of these neutrinos would define the average rate of energy production from solar fusion and everything would seem to be in order according to our present understanding of how energy is released within the sun. But, in actuality it might be found that the energy is generated in a more complex burst type nature. This is not unlike what some of us observe when we measure LENR systems. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 2:17 am Subject: [Vo]:It must be magnetism On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare. Read more at: http://phys.org/news201795438.html#jCp The unknown force from the sun must not only increase nuclear decay rates but
RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
The easiest way to reconcile the latest Va’vra paper (and the 511 keV line which comes from the center of the Milky Way galaxy) with the predicted Naudts x-ray spectral value for DDL can be rather simple (hopefully not naïve). The DDL reaches a plateau of electron orbital stability at 3.7 keV. Dark matter accumulates having this bond strength. There is no lower plateau for a stable orbital. The rapidly alternating magnetic field of the DDL is indistinguishable from a monopole. (in fact, a monopole is most easily defined as rapidly alternating polar magnetism where only a intense but nonpolar field is felt). The characteristic interaction of monopoles with each other is strong mutual attraction up to a fairly substantial distance (cm range perhaps) and then strong mutual repulsion thereafter, prohibiting any dense aggregation of DDL, but yet large diffuse clouds of dark matter having substantial net mass are possible. The DDL are only subject to attraction from the extreme gravitomagnetic field of a dense object like a black hole. The emission line which is seen in the center of our galaxy is related to the total disappearance of electrons from an adjacent cloud of dark matter into a black hole, and not to DDL formation ab initio. The dark matter had been there for a very long time in DDL form. _ This latest Va’vra paper could be an extremely important stimulus for and evolving LENR version of the DDL. It is chock full of detail that bears reading and rereading. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf Although the DDL transition is at 511 keV is the focus this paper, which is ostensibly ruled out for LENR (looked for and not found) … the discussion of the lower x-ray ranges from 2.5-4 keV are still in play, although it is not certain how they would be evidenced in a working reactor. In short, the DDL of Naudts at 3.7 keV is definitely still a player for an emerging theory, as mentioned in this paper. Given the similarity of this higher 511 keV value to positron annihilation, it would be interesting to try to fit this into Don Hotson’s theory. Too bad Don is not around to do that but others may take up the cause. It almost seems possible that some of what passes for Wheeler’s “quantum foam” in not virtual positronium, per se, but DDL hydrogen. From: Bob Higgins * I did some additional research to find Dr. Va'vra. I found his email and asked him about the latter 3 papers. Here was his interesting response: However, there is a problem with all these types of calculations. They use a 1920-1930 quantum mechanics. The correct treatment must use QED. There were attempts to do that, and I mention that in my more recent ArXiv paper: 1304.0833v3. Mills used fractional quantum numbers. That is a no no for the classical quantum mechanics. So, I consider his method wrong. Regards, Jerry * Dr. Va'vra has a 2013 ArXiv paper (http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf) - I think it is a fascinating fit to this thread. If someone else already cited this, I apologize for the duplication. Bob Higgins attachment: winmail.dat
[Vo]:AXIL about Problem Solving
Dear Friends. My previous article about the Root Cause of the problems and worries of the LENR field- had minimalist feedback being ignored as all the other 39 papers I wrote in 2014 about the same subject. It was just a new opportunity to feel the loneliness of the long distance Blogger trying to think outside the dominant paradigm. I have discussed only with an Australian and an US based friend. But now, my friend AXIL who knows that a Friend in need is a friend indeed is a basic proverb in all cultures, Earthly and galactic alike written this very helpful editorial: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/08/about-problem-solving-by-axil_23.html Thank you, dear AXIL- yes! engineering is the key as I have learnt this fprever 60 years ago, see here: *http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/09/the-principle-of-chief-engineer.html http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/09/the-principle-of-chief-engineer.html* *Peter* -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:global warming?
Terry sez: I saw it more of an escaping from the placenta thing, with a large cheering audience. Not disagreeing with you. It was the last 10 seconds that I was focusing on. Next time viewing on the [boobtube? flatscreen? interesting contrast] is sparse try this: I currently employ thee monitors. Can never have enuf. http://www.reddit.com/r/fullmoviesongoogle/ I think you have to have a google+ account for it to work. I loaded Starship Troopers - 1080p. But I'm not sure if I have a + account. Good grief! Looks like I can watch the whole film. I feel like I'm stealing. What's kind of deal did Google work out with the entertainment industry to allow full viewing access to these full length feature films? I don't see where I'm paying anything to watch these feature films, some in HD too. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities?
You can view some of the specs at the following PDF file: http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Abbreviated_Business_P resentation-8-2014.pdf On page 59: Operating Specifications: Ignition current 10k A to 30kA Ignition Voltage 4.5 V - 15V System Peak Input Power45 kW to 450 kW ... and on page 60, the Operating specifications of an alleged 10 MW electric SunCell generator with a rotary ignition-regeneration and Optical Distribution and Potovoltaic Converter System. Ignition current: 20k A to 30k A Ignition voltage: 4.5 V 8 8 V. System Peak Input Power: 90 kW to 240 kW ... presumably to be delivered... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities? The material through which the current flows determines the voltage appearing across its terminals. This can be adjusted over a significant range by playing with the geometry of the structure. If magnetic fields enter into the equation then it is important to make the trade off such that the current is increased at the expense of voltage. I am under the impression that Mills uses the large current to enhance his reaction and goes to a lot of effort to achieve that goal. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 12:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities? The important factor is instansious power(IP). High amperage can produce the required level of IP, or high voltage can, or the duration of the pulse can be shortened. To get the best COP, a very high voltage pulse...say 5 million volts, that is pulsed for under a nanosecond will provide the required results with the best COP. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: In case it was missed, Dr. Mills mentions the fact that they use a huge amount of amperage to generate the explosion. Voltage, OTOH, is extremely low. I assume this is not a normal configuration spot welder equipment uses. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities?
Oops. I think the specs on page 60 pertain only a much large hypothetical configuration. I think the engineering firms BLP has contracted with may attempt to construct a prototype more akin to the specs on page 78. Presumably, this is a much smaller, less ambitious configuration. I'm guessing this configuration would more closely match the specs on page 59. . . . . . You can view some of the specs at the following PDF file: http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Abbreviated_Business_P resentation-8-2014.pdf On page 59: Operating Specifications: Ignition current 10k A to 30kA Ignition Voltage 4.5 V - 15V System Peak Input Power45 kW to 450 kW ... and on page 60, the Operating specifications of an alleged 10 MW electric SunCell generator with a rotary ignition-regeneration and Optical Distribution and Potovoltaic Converter System. Ignition current: 20k A to 30k A Ignition voltage: 4.5 V 8 8 V. System Peak Input Power: 90 kW to 240 kW ... presumably to be delivered... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities? The material through which the current flows determines the voltage appearing across its terminals. This can be adjusted over a significant range by playing with the geometry of the structure. If magnetic fields enter into the equation then it is important to make the trade off such that the current is increased at the expense of voltage. I am under the impression that Mills uses the large current to enhance his reaction and goes to a lot of effort to achieve that goal. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 12:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities? The important factor is instansious power(IP). High amperage can produce the required level of IP, or high voltage can, or the duration of the pulse can be shortened. To get the best COP, a very high voltage pulse...say 5 million volts, that is pulsed for under a nanosecond will provide the required results with the best COP. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: In case it was missed, Dr. Mills mentions the fact that they use a huge amount of amperage to generate the explosion. Voltage, OTOH, is extremely low. I assume this is not a normal configuration spot welder equipment uses. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Phys.org- Splitting Water- Nickel at 1.5 volts
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure IF this is news: http://phys.org/news/2014-08-scientists-splitter-ordinary-aaa-battery.html This is an interesting article. It suggests nickel oxide has a relatively low work function. I assume the water splitting occurs from electrons that are emitted as current passes through the nickel material. Presumably the nickel oxide has a low work function and only a small current is needed to cause the electrons to be emitted. The article also mentions that the nickel catalyst degrades faster than catalysts that contain precious metals such as platinum. Eric
RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
From prior post: The characteristic interaction of monopoles with each other is strong mutual attraction up to a fairly substantial distance (cm range perhaps) and then strong mutual repulsion thereafter, leaving a large gap which prohibits any dense aggregation of DDL, but yet encourages large diffuse clouds of dark matter having substantial net mass which cannot densify due to gravity, since the magnetic forces is so much stronger. For those who do not have an understanding of the phenomenon of attract/repel, with a large gap in between - here is a visual demo of poly-magnets in spring mode, which precisely simulate in 2D the characteristic of monopoles in 3D. http://www.youtube.com/embed/J8w6gwSm_ak/?autoplay=1 attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [Vo]:global warming?
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Not disagreeing with you. It was the last 10 seconds that I was focusing on. Yeah. Me, too. I loaded Starship Troopers - 1080p. But I'm not sure if I have a + account. Good grief! Looks like I can watch the whole film. I feel like I'm stealing. What's kind of deal did Google work out with the entertainment industry to allow full viewing access to these full length feature films? I don't see where I'm paying anything to watch these feature films, some in HD too. Actually, you just need gmail. I wouldn't fret too much over your gift horse dentistry. Just enjoy. http://zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Better Design Possibilities?
Hi Steven, Actually, that is a normal configuration for a spot welder. The one I ordered is 2.5V and 3200 amps. Maybe it won't be high enough power, but if nothing else, it could prove a possibility for triggering LENR in electrolysis with very short pulses. It's worth a try. Jack On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: In case it was missed, Dr. Mills mentions the fact that they use a huge amount of amperage to generate the explosion. Voltage, OTOH, is extremely low. I assume this is not a normal configuration spot welder equipment uses. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:global warming?
There is a 30 year ocean temperature oscillation due to the Atlantic and southern sea saline inversion. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: Fraud is too strong a word. Last I heard, there was controversy about including temps from the 1930's ( which were unusually high). Some people would discard them as an outlier, others would include them entirely. I can understand both opinions.
Re: [Vo]:global warming?
Cold fusion and Global warming have the same disruptive collection of interest groups arrayed against them, the fossil fuel industry. When cold fusion becomes a real energy option, the storm will break loose and it will be far more intense than has ever been seen for Global warming. This LENR storm will be far worse than you can ever imagine because Cold fusion is considered a joke now and when that impression changes it will be an ultra shock and a nightmare of major proponents of the carbon industries. Global warming is now a 100 year off threat were LENR will be a threat perceived as catastrophic in a few weeks that will spring forth out of nowhere. On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:43 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: CB, the folks that do not believe that man made global warming is the primary cause of the heating have a right to their opinions just as you do and it is not appropriate for you to write in this manner. Perhaps you missed the latest statement from the modelers that the current flat temperature period might last until 2025 or so before the heating resumes. Considering that their models did not even hint that this was possible, I think you might want to reconsider the quality of the predictions of those models. I expect good correlation between what one predicts and what actually occurs for a process that is well understood. If this is not seen then it is proper to suspect that the model is lacking. One day these guys might get things right, but for now, they are seriously in error. When do you think it will be appropriate to expect them to generate answers that match the real world? They have come to bat and struck out this time. Even they admit the lack of correlation at this point after a long denial. Surely you must realize that essentially every scientific theory will be shown to be incorrect at some time in the future. It is entirely possible that the global warming crowd will become the ones that leave the scene with their tails between their legs like the tobacco industry execs you mention. Complex systems are notoriously difficult to understand and the global climate behavior appears to be one of the most complex around. If you have an open mind you might want to look into the correlation between solar activity and cloud formation. I vote along with you that global warming is a subject of extreme controversy and it would be great if vortex never discusses the issue again. Until that time please refrain from using inappropriate language. Dave -Original Message- From: CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 8:50 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming? Jed is write in my opinion between the deniers of global warming and the skeptic of cold fusion, in some aspects. I think the better analogy is deniers of anthropogenic global warming and the tobacco industry lobby that claimed tobacco didn't cause cancer. It took a long time for that debate to end, with the tobacco industry having to put their tail between their legs and fork out billions in lawsuits. Global warming scientists are on top of there game. The people that deny global warming on the internet blogs, comments, and forums are so foolish and look to be nothing short of butt holes with an agenda. And that agenda is to be the biggest ass that they can be if it conforms to what their buddy's think. I just hope this subject on global warming never again appears on vortex. It's to much of an off-subject hot potato. On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: I can serve up thousands of similar reports on cold fusion, ***And you do. You serve up factual reports on cold fusion. And there are thousands of factual reports on global warming. Some conclude there's manmade warming, others conclude it's caused by the sun. Imagine that: the sun warms up planets, like ours.There's a distinct lack of evidence for something that is supposed to be such a friggin slam-dunk. When it is a slam-dunk, there's no need for fraud. This proves only that cold fusion researchers are primates like everyone else. ***And so are climate researchers. On both sides. I've seen reports that strongly correlate global warming with solar activity. What a huge DUHH factor. Trying to overcome the obvious and claim that such a thing is wrong, that there's some ton of evidence that says mankind causes global warming... well, such a thing has a higher bar of proof now that the IPCC was caught in an outright series of lies trying to make the case for global warming. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: here's 2 reports to chew on. good luck digesting them. it doesn't even reach back to the the fraudulent emails from ipcc yet. I can serve up thousands of similar reports on
Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Dr. Va'vra has a 2013 ArXiv paper (http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf) - I think it is a fascinating fit to this thread. If someone else already cited this, I apologize for the duplication. I had a moment to read this paper. Va'vra identifies his DDL hydrogen with dark matter. He suggests, for example, going down into the Gran Sasso lab to better detect the signals which he proposes should add up to 511 keV (when measured across a full solid angle). I get the impression he understands the DDL hydrogen to be passing *through* the earth, as one would expect of dark matter. This move raises a challenge to be addressed. A DDL hydrogen atom is baryonic matter and can reasonably be expected to approach the behavior of a neutron. I would expect the significant amount of DDL hydrogen dark matter passing through the earth to be equivalent to a high neutron flux, causing all kinds of capture events. Va'vra mentions in passing that maybe such capture events would be unlikely because of a small dipole moment. But I think this is just a way to have things both ways. Even if we suppose that the DDL hydrogen-capture cross section is smaller than that for a neutron, one presumes it would still be nontrivial. (Mills's theory must also address this challenge.) Eric
Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
I believe that hydrogen in space will form spontaneously into solid crystal chains comprised of many atoms with the protons concentrated in the interior of these one dimensional particles and many of the electrons orbiting on the outside zone of these nanoparticles. It is in these types of nanoparticles that cosmological LENR will occur. On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Dr. Va'vra has a 2013 ArXiv paper (http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf) - I think it is a fascinating fit to this thread. If someone else already cited this, I apologize for the duplication. I had a moment to read this paper. Va'vra identifies his DDL hydrogen with dark matter. He suggests, for example, going down into the Gran Sasso lab to better detect the signals which he proposes should add up to 511 keV (when measured across a full solid angle). I get the impression he understands the DDL hydrogen to be passing *through* the earth, as one would expect of dark matter. This move raises a challenge to be addressed. A DDL hydrogen atom is baryonic matter and can reasonably be expected to approach the behavior of a neutron. I would expect the significant amount of DDL hydrogen dark matter passing through the earth to be equivalent to a high neutron flux, causing all kinds of capture events. Va'vra mentions in passing that maybe such capture events would be unlikely because of a small dipole moment. But I think this is just a way to have things both ways. Even if we suppose that the DDL hydrogen-capture cross section is smaller than that for a neutron, one presumes it would still be nontrivial. (Mills's theory must also address this challenge.) Eric
Re: [Vo]:global warming?
I hope my point is now ultra clear to readers. Axil is basically saying the temperature oscillation is related to Global Warming. Hence, my point, that Global Warming theory has an all-inclusive symptoms list. Everything is due to Global warming. INTRACTABLE RIDICULOUSNESS Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming? There is a 30 year ocean temperature oscillation due to the Atlantic and southern sea saline inversion. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: Fraud is too strong a word. Last I heard, there was controversy about including temps from the 1930's ( which were unusually high). Some people would discard them as an outlier, others would include them entirely. I can understand both opinions.
