Re: [Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
Yikes! That's creepy. It is an abuse of AI technology. When something new is invented, people tend to use it in all kinds of ways. Later, they realize that some of these uses are inappropriate. For example, they used x-ray to measure people's feet in shoe stores. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe-fitting_fluoroscope
[Vo]:Dr.s Using ChatGPT to Sound More Human(e)
https://futurism.com/neoscope/microsoft-doctors-chatgpt-patients
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Experiment Casts Doubt on the Leading Theory of the Nucleus
The strong force is not a constant. It is proportional to the parallel EM flux. The increase from proton --> 4-He is a complex quaternion Logarithmic factor. It can be exactly given by the SO(4) physics model. The standard model simply is garbage invented by people that miss the understanding of some basic physics laws like : *Flux must be homogeneous and stable!* That does (mathematically - easily provable) not work with the SM solution space of S3 or just SU(2)/SO(3). J.W. On 13.06.2023 03:26, H L V wrote: A New Experiment Casts Doubt on the Leading Theory of the Nucleus By measuring inflated helium nuclei, physicists have challenged our best understanding of the force that binds protons and neutrons. https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-experiment-casts-doubt-on-the-leading-theory-of-the-nucleus-20230612 Harry -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
[Vo]:Experiment Casts Doubt on the Leading Theory of the Nucleus
A New Experiment Casts Doubt on the Leading Theory of the Nucleus By measuring inflated helium nuclei, physicists have challenged our best understanding of the force that binds protons and neutrons. https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-experiment-casts-doubt-on-the-leading-theory-of-the-nucleus-20230612 Harry
[Vo]:AI Sermon
FUERTH, Germany (AP) — The artificial intelligence chatbot asked the believers in the fully packed St. Paul’s church in the Bavarian town of Fuerth to rise from the pews and praise the Lord. The ChatGPT chatbot, personified by an avatar of a bearded Black man on a huge screen above the altar, then began preaching to the more than 300 people who had shown up on Friday morning for an experimental Lutheran church service almost entirely generated by AI. more at https://apnews.com/article/germany-church-protestants-chatgpt-ai-sermon-651f21c24cfb47e3122e987a7263d348
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
I think we get more shielding from the magnetic field than atmosphere. On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 8:17 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to H L V's message of Thu, 8 Jun 2023 20:10:11 -0400: > Hi, > > The Martian atmosphere is very thin, so radiation from space may be much > worse than it is on Earth, where we are > shielded by a thick atmosphere. The implication being that living on Mars, > would probably mean living underground most > of the time. > > >Musk's long term goal is the colonisation of Mars. In my opinion whatever > >"green" tech he sells on Earth is likely an early version of what will > >eventually be used on Mars. > [snip] > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
This is already available as the Toyato Mirai. --- Original Message --- On Thursday, June 8th, 2023 at 11:19 PM, Robin wrote: > Hi, > > A fuel cell + electric motor would probably also be more efficient. >
Re: [Vo]:With the Writer's Guild on Strike...
Then again, maybe not: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-mirror-creator-artificial-intelligence-write-episode_n_647fac60e4b027d92f88fb7b On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 8:01 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > I think this proves AI can do it: > > > https://startefacts.com/news/ai-turns-teletubbies-into-a-horror-movie-and-it-s-pure-nightmare-fuel_a135 > > On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:59 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> ...here's your chance, AI. >> >> https://news.yahoo.com/ai-could-replace-80-jobs-211900514.html >> >
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
In reply to H L V's message of Thu, 8 Jun 2023 20:10:11 -0400: Hi, The Martian atmosphere is very thin, so radiation from space may be much worse than it is on Earth, where we are shielded by a thick atmosphere. The implication being that living on Mars, would probably mean living underground most of the time. >Musk's long term goal is the colonisation of Mars. In my opinion whatever >"green" tech he sells on Earth is likely an early version of what will >eventually be used on Mars. [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
Musk's long term goal is the colonisation of Mars. In my opinion whatever "green" tech he sells on Earth is likely an early version of what will eventually be used on Mars. harry On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 5:44 PM MSF wrote: > A little diversion for the day. > Who will win this international shoot out? > > > https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles-early-adopter-petrol-car-ev-environment-rowan-atkinson >
Re: [Vo]:With the Writer's Guild on Strike...
I think this proves AI can do it: https://startefacts.com/news/ai-turns-teletubbies-into-a-horror-movie-and-it-s-pure-nightmare-fuel_a135 On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:59 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > ...here's your chance, AI. > > https://news.yahoo.com/ai-could-replace-80-jobs-211900514.html >
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_engine On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 00:19, Robin wrote: > In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 8 Jun 2023 19:15:55 -0400: > Hi, > > A fuel cell + electric motor would probably also be more efficient. > >Hi Grimer! > > > >Hydrogen combustion in a gasoline engine has a fraction of the horsepower, > >not to mention the embrittlement discovered by Bob Lazar when he fueled > his > >Vette with H2. Poor valves. > [snip] > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
https://www.google.com/search?q=Gas+bags+on+cars+during+ww2=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB787GB787=Gas+bags+on+cars+during+ww2=chrome..69i57j33i10i160.21718j0j4=chrome=UTF-8 I've no doubt there are problems but I'm confident they could be overcome. As a child I remember seeing these coal gas cars. On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 00:16, Terry Blanton wrote: > Hi Grimer! > > Hydrogen combustion in a gasoline engine has a fraction of the horsepower, > not to mention the embrittlement discovered by Bob Lazar when he fueled his > Vette with H2. Poor valves. > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 7:08 PM Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What about the ICE running on hydrogen generated from electricity. >> >> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 23:08, Terry Blanton wrote: >> >>> When we get our energy via fusion, be it natural (Sol) or man made, the >>> ICE should be melted to make new weapons and plowshares. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 5:44 PM MSF wrote: >>> A little diversion for the day. Who will win this international shoot out? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles-early-adopter-petrol-car-ev-environment-rowan-atkinson >>>
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 8 Jun 2023 19:15:55 -0400: Hi, A fuel cell + electric motor would probably also be more efficient. >Hi Grimer! > >Hydrogen combustion in a gasoline engine has a fraction of the horsepower, >not to mention the embrittlement discovered by Bob Lazar when he fueled his >Vette with H2. Poor valves. [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
Hi Grimer! Hydrogen combustion in a gasoline engine has a fraction of the horsepower, not to mention the embrittlement discovered by Bob Lazar when he fueled his Vette with H2. Poor valves. On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 7:08 PM Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote: > What about the ICE running on hydrogen generated from electricity. > > On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 23:08, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> When we get our energy via fusion, be it natural (Sol) or man made, the >> ICE should be melted to make new weapons and plowshares. >> >> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 5:44 PM MSF wrote: >> >>> A little diversion for the day. >>> Who will win this international shoot out? >>> >>> >>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles-early-adopter-petrol-car-ev-environment-rowan-atkinson >>> >>
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
In reply to Frank Grimer's message of Fri, 9 Jun 2023 00:08:01 +0100: Hi, [snip] >What about the ICE running on hydrogen generated from electricity. Carbon based fuels can be liquid at room temperature, making them easy to handle, and store. [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
What about the ICE running on hydrogen generated from electricity. On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 23:08, Terry Blanton wrote: > When we get our energy via fusion, be it natural (Sol) or man made, the > ICE should be melted to make new weapons and plowshares. > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 5:44 PM MSF wrote: > >> A little diversion for the day. >> Who will win this international shoot out? >> >> >> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles-early-adopter-petrol-car-ev-environment-rowan-atkinson >> >
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
When we get our energy via fusion, be it natural (Sol) or man made, the ICE should be melted to make new weapons and plowshares. On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 5:44 PM MSF wrote: > A little diversion for the day. > Who will win this international shoot out? > > > https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles-early-adopter-petrol-car-ev-environment-rowan-atkinson >
[Vo]:Mr. Bean vs Mr. Musk
A little diversion for the day. Who will win this international shoot out? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles-early-adopter-petrol-car-ev-environment-rowan-atkinson
Re: [Vo]:Mycorrhizal Carbon Sequestering
:) Let me introduce you to Paul Stamets. On Tue, Jun 6, 2023, 8:59 AM Jones Beene wrote: > Warning (esp for viewers of 'The Last of Us') > > This news story could be a 'plant' so to speak... > > The zombie fungus cordyceps reportedly has well-placed propagandists ... > > > > Terry Blanton wrote: > > > > https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/4034986-fungi-may-offer-jaw-dropping-solution-to-climate-change/ >
Re: [Vo]:Mycorrhizal Carbon Sequestering
Warning (esp for viewers of 'The Last of Us') This news story could be a 'plant' so to speak... The zombie fungus cordyceps reportedly has well-placed propagandists ... Terry Blanton wrote: https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/4034986-fungi-may-offer-jaw-dropping-solution-to-climate-change/
[Vo]:Mycorrhizal Carbon Sequestering
https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/4034986-fungi-may-offer-jaw-dropping-solution-to-climate-change/
Re: [Vo]:LEC or Air-gen
My initial reaction to the water creating heat by contact was the same as yours, that it was chemical. However, if you wait for an hour or so, when you place a droplet of water on the same spot the same thing happens. Something I forgot to emphasize about this nanoporous aluminum film is that the total thickness in this case was about 400 nm, but the graduated nanoporosity was probably about half that. So the disappearing water is really more remarkable. Because of the gradient from nanoporous to solid the coating is very cohesive, not flakey like some of the LEC plating. I'm guessing, but I think that the pores start off larger at the surface and become progressively smaller toward the solid metal. --- Original Message --- On Friday, June 2nd, 2023 at 10:47 PM, Robin wrote: > In reply to MSF's message of Fri, 02 Jun 2023 18:01:13 +: > Hi, > > Several years ago, I suggested to Mills in private email that a surface > containing pits that had a dimension matching > the wavelength of a photon with the same energy as his "energy hole", might > function as a catalyst for Hydrino > production, but he appears to have ignored my suggestion. > Your report of a water droplet on nano-porous Aluminium might be > confirmation, though I suspect a more likely > explanation is that the water simply reacted chemically with the Aluminium > because the oxide layer that normally covers > it was disrupted.
Re: [Vo]:LEC or Air-gen
In reply to MSF's message of Fri, 02 Jun 2023 18:01:13 +: Hi, Several years ago, I suggested to Mills in private email that a surface containing pits that had a dimension matching the wavelength of a photon with the same energy as his "energy hole", might function as a catalyst for Hydrino production, but he appears to have ignored my suggestion. Your report of a water droplet on nano-porous Aluminium might be confirmation, though I suspect a more likely explanation is that the water simply reacted chemically with the Aluminium because the oxide layer that normally covers it was disrupted. [snip] >I can't help but suspect that they are the same thing. Since the LEC seems to >work with the the phenomenon of nanoporosity and doesn't necessarily need >catalyst metals such as palladium, perhaps all of CF, LENR, CANR work on this >principle and are not fusion at all, but some other phenomenon not yet well >understood. Maybe it works like the atomic hydrogen torch, where splitting >diatomic hydrogen and then recombining it results in large energy release. Or >maybe the nanoporosity literally splits the diatomic hydrogen and then crushes >it into the hydrino. Water molecules could be similarly broken down within the >nanopores. [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
[Vo]:LEC or Air-gen
I've spent some time catching up on the hydrovoltaic air-gen research and I am surprised I knew nothing about it previously. This field of research has been going on for quite some time and the recent breathless news release by the group at UMass Amherst was likely an attempt to raise fresh funding. If you're curious about it detail, read this: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/action/downloadSupplement?doi=10.1002%2Fadma.202300748=adma202300748-sup-0001-SuppMat.pdf Then compare the analysis of results to this: https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DiStefanoAexperiment.pdf I can't help but suspect that they are the same thing. Since the LEC seems to work with the the phenomenon of nanoporosity and doesn't necessarily need catalyst metals such as palladium, perhaps all of CF, LENR, CANR work on this principle and are not fusion at all, but some other phenomenon not yet well understood. Maybe it works like the atomic hydrogen torch, where splitting diatomic hydrogen and then recombining it results in large energy release. Or maybe the nanoporosity literally splits the diatomic hydrogen and then crushes it into the hydrino. Water molecules could be similarly broken down within the nanopores. The nanoporous aluminum film I made 10 years ago would likely work well for either the LEC or the air-gen. It was coated onto a PET film substrate and was a mirror on the substrate side and dead black on the exposed surface. The fact that a small drop of water literally vanishes into the surface of a film only about 400 nm thick and becomes hot at the area of contact would seem to indicate appropriate use in the LEC or the air-gen. Sheer speculation on my part. What's your take?
[Vo]:It's Becoming Difficult to Remain Septical
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12144193/NASAs-UFO-task-force-livestream-historic-public-meeting-TODAY-Watch-here.html
Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
They might come up with $6M for thermal control inside satellites. On 5/30/23, MSF wrote: > We're digressing from the subject at hand, but it allows me some > self-indulgent nostalgia. > > As you are no doubt aware, even black paint made to coat the interior of > optical instruments has the problem of a quite high glancing angle > reflectance. My nanoporous aluminum film has a very low glancing angle > reflectance. > > I seriously doubt anyone would cough up 6 million bucks to produce this > material in quantity. Maybe someone could be convinced to provide the > capital based on the possibility of making a superior hydrovoltaic film. Not > bloody likely. > > As a boy I used to make and modify all sorts of strange and unusual > microscopes and telescopes. I was bedeviled by the reflections from the > interior of the tubes. My solution was simple. I would deposit carbon black > inside the tubes. A flaming q-tip soaked in motor oil and attached to a > stick could deposit enough soot to eliminate almost all of the reflections > from the inside of the tubes. You can even do this to the inside of > cardboard tube if you are careful. Since I knew no one would be taking these > gadgets apart but me, I had no worries about the surface being disturbed. > There now. More than you wanted to know. > > > > --- Original Message --- > On Tuesday, May 30th, 2023 at 6:27 PM, Andrew Meulenberg > wrote: > > >> I no longer have the instruments to measure the absorptance and >> reflectance of materials; but, most optical instruments have black >> paint on the inside walls. A new source of very black films or sheets >> could be a useful addition because, over the years, the paint turns >> grey. > > >
Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
We're digressing from the subject at hand, but it allows me some self-indulgent nostalgia. As you are no doubt aware, even black paint made to coat the interior of optical instruments has the problem of a quite high glancing angle reflectance. My nanoporous aluminum film has a very low glancing angle reflectance. I seriously doubt anyone would cough up 6 million bucks to produce this material in quantity. Maybe someone could be convinced to provide the capital based on the possibility of making a superior hydrovoltaic film. Not bloody likely. As a boy I used to make and modify all sorts of strange and unusual microscopes and telescopes. I was bedeviled by the reflections from the interior of the tubes. My solution was simple. I would deposit carbon black inside the tubes. A flaming q-tip soaked in motor oil and attached to a stick could deposit enough soot to eliminate almost all of the reflections from the inside of the tubes. You can even do this to the inside of cardboard tube if you are careful. Since I knew no one would be taking these gadgets apart but me, I had no worries about the surface being disturbed. There now. More than you wanted to know. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, May 30th, 2023 at 6:27 PM, Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > I no longer have the instruments to measure the absorptance and > reflectance of materials; but, most optical instruments have black > paint on the inside walls. A new source of very black films or sheets > could be a useful addition because, over the years, the paint turns > grey.
Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
I no longer have the instruments to measure the absorptance and reflectance of materials; but, most optical instruments have black paint on the inside walls. A new source of very black films or sheets could be a useful addition because, over the years, the paint turns grey. On 5/30/23, MSF wrote: > I haven't the equipment or the time to measure the degree and spectrum of > the "blackness". Suffice it to say, you can still see a very dim spot if you > shine a variety of lasers of different wavelengths onto the surface. > Naturally, the substrate, PET film, heats up and burns when you do this. > > I made this material in 2013 and there has been no noticeable change in its > properties since then. > > Fabricated by a continuous process, this film could be made for a few cents > per square meter. A machine designed for this specific application would > cost about 6 million dollars US. > > I would like to be more specific, but this material was made under an NDA > with a large semiconductor company and I'm not sure if this application > would be covered under it. > > --- Original Message --- > On Tuesday, May 30th, 2023 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Meulenberg > wrote: > > >> depending on its degree and spectrum of "blackness" (and cost?), it >> could have many applications. Did it retain its properties as the >> oxide grew? >> > >
[Vo]:One More GW.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/third-nuclear-reactor-reaches-100-power-output-georgias-plant-vogtle/BUZKF6VRBNHEHPO347S2VVRKWQ/
Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
I haven't the equipment or the time to measure the degree and spectrum of the "blackness". Suffice it to say, you can still see a very dim spot if you shine a variety of lasers of different wavelengths onto the surface. Naturally, the substrate, PET film, heats up and burns when you do this. I made this material in 2013 and there has been no noticeable change in its properties since then. Fabricated by a continuous process, this film could be made for a few cents per square meter. A machine designed for this specific application would cost about 6 million dollars US. I would like to be more specific, but this material was made under an NDA with a large semiconductor company and I'm not sure if this application would be covered under it. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, May 30th, 2023 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > depending on its degree and spectrum of "blackness" (and cost?), it > could have many applications. Did it retain its properties as the > oxide grew? >
Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
depending on its degree and spectrum of "blackness" (and cost?), it could have many applications. Did it retain its properties as the oxide grew? On 5/29/23, MSF wrote: > Thanks. That's an informative analysis > > The nanoporous aluminum layer I made was approx. 400 nm thick. It could be > made thicker or thinner as required. I haven't had the setup to make this > stuff for quite some time, but I'm tempted to do it again. I was making it > in 600 mm square sheets, but it could be turned into a continuous process. > > > > --- Original Message --- > On Monday, May 29th, 2023 at 8:15 PM, Robin > wrote: > > >> In reply to MSF's message of Mon, 29 May 2023 18:48:52 +: >> Hi, >> >> If you follow the link to the original article, then download the >> supporting materials pdf, the original experiment >> reported at best about 250 nW / cm^2. This may not seem like much, but the >> layer could be made very thin, perhaps 1 >> micron thick (?), which IINM would give a power density of about 2.5 kW / >> m^3. >> This would vary with the humidity of the air. >> >> (Strangely perhaps this is reminiscent of Mills' CIHT.) >> >> > https://www.umass.edu/news/article/engineers-umass-amherst-harvest-abundant-clean-energy-thin-air-247 >> >> [snip] >> Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:This could relate to the Mills/Holmlid effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY6IK0ObDYU explanation of vacuum decay. The mass of the up and down quark depends on the energy values of the Higgs field (aka vacuum). An increase or decrease of this vacuum expectation value (VEV) that is beyond or below 1.2 (120%) of the ambient Higgs field VEV that is under the influence of this false vacuum will cause atoms to fall apart into energy in the zone of the false vacuum. This fluctuation of the energy levels of the VEV is the fundamental cause of transmutation of elements in LENR. On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 7:44 AM Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > Axil Axil, > > When a free electron falls into a deep atomic orbit, it gains kinetic > energy and a photon of the same amount is emitted. Both energies are > provided from decay of the nuclear mass. > > Is this what you call, or equivalent to, vacuum decay? > > Andrew > > On 5/29/23, Axil Axil wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmLsF5yEd9o > > > > > > *Garett Moddel has patented (it actually works) a device that extracts > > energy from the vacuum. * > > > > An experiment that show energy extraction from the vacuum > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rgn-10sSJI > > > > In his product development, Moddel has found that extracting energy from > > the vacuum causes unavoidable decay of the matter that his device is > > constructed from. This decay is called vacuum decay and is seen in all > LENR > > devices that produce energy. Ths decay is a significant issue that must > be > > overcome before LENR can be used as a reliable power source. > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:12 PM Jones Beene wrote: > > > >> The premise is that entangled behavior is a feature of an expanded > ground > >> state— the goal being to harvest zero-point energy from a system whose > >> ground state naturally features entanglement and redundancy > >> > >> > >> > https://www.wired.com/story/the-quest-to-use-quantum-mechanics-to-pull-energy-out-of-nothing/?bxid=5cec25cb3f92a45b30ed10b5=46300417=Wired_etl_load=Email_0_EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ_brand=wired_mailing=WIR_Daily_052823 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >
Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
Thanks. That's an informative analysis The nanoporous aluminum layer I made was approx. 400 nm thick. It could be made thicker or thinner as required. I haven't had the setup to make this stuff for quite some time, but I'm tempted to do it again. I was making it in 600 mm square sheets, but it could be turned into a continuous process. --- Original Message --- On Monday, May 29th, 2023 at 8:15 PM, Robin wrote: > In reply to MSF's message of Mon, 29 May 2023 18:48:52 +: > Hi, > > If you follow the link to the original article, then download the supporting > materials pdf, the original experiment > reported at best about 250 nW / cm^2. This may not seem like much, but the > layer could be made very thin, perhaps 1 > micron thick (?), which IINM would give a power density of about 2.5 kW / m^3. > This would vary with the humidity of the air. > > (Strangely perhaps this is reminiscent of Mills' CIHT.) > > > https://www.umass.edu/news/article/engineers-umass-amherst-harvest-abundant-clean-energy-thin-air-247 > > [snip] > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
Speaking of Randell, has he yet produced a product for the millions invested? On Mon, May 29, 2023, 4:25 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to MSF's message of Mon, 29 May 2023 18:48:52 +: > Hi, > > If you follow the link to the original article, then download the > supporting materials pdf, the original experiment > reported at best about 250 nW / cm^2. This may not seem like much, but the > layer could be made very thin, perhaps 1 > micron thick (?), which IINM would give a power density of about 2.5 kW / > m^3. > This would vary with the humidity of the air. > > (Strangely perhaps this is reminiscent of Mills' CIHT.) > > > > https://www.umass.edu/news/article/engineers-umass-amherst-harvest-abundant-clean-energy-thin-air-247 > > > [snip] > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
In reply to MSF's message of Mon, 29 May 2023 18:48:52 +: Hi, If you follow the link to the original article, then download the supporting materials pdf, the original experiment reported at best about 250 nW / cm^2. This may not seem like much, but the layer could be made very thin, perhaps 1 micron thick (?), which IINM would give a power density of about 2.5 kW / m^3. This would vary with the humidity of the air. (Strangely perhaps this is reminiscent of Mills' CIHT.) >https://www.umass.edu/news/article/engineers-umass-amherst-harvest-abundant-clean-energy-thin-air-247 > [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
[Vo]:Electricity "fromthin air"
https://www.umass.edu/news/article/engineers-umass-amherst-harvest-abundant-clean-energy-thin-air-247 No energy density is given. So it might just be an interesting curiosity. This whole concept is of particular interest to me because of the nanoporous metals I was making several years ago. The nanoporous aluminum I made was a gradient of solid aluminum at one surface and highly nanoporous on the opposite surface. The nanoporous surface was about the blackest material I have ever seen. Carbon black looks rather light brown next to it. The nanoporous aluminum has a number of strange properties. A tiny drop of water on its surface disappears and the spot become hot. If you press a finger on it, it will remove the top layer of skin, leaving a fingerprint made of the skin itself. Interesting, but possibly of no practical use.
Re: [Vo]:This could relate to the Mills/Holmlid effect
Andrew! Your picture is correct up to level N=3 after this the electron EM flux joins the proton EM flux and as a such is always at light speed. Be also aware that the 1:1 split for potential energy and kinetic energy added is only valid as an average for non circular orbits (toroidal orbits are the normal case). The only deep e-p orbit that has multiple experimental verification is H*-H* a condensed form of Hydrogen first found by Santilli, later Mills and Holmlid. Single proton deep e-p orbits are not stable and never could be found except as resonances. H*-H* is very stable and has been run through a separation column. Result: It was transported faster than Hydrogen. Its bond energy 495.x eV and the second electron bond is weaker due to the reduced external p-p potential. This effect is also known as Rydberg matter. J.W. On 29.05.2023 13:37, Andrew Meulenberg wrote: Axil Axil, When a free electron falls into a deep atomic orbit, it gains kinetic energy and a photon of the same amount is emitted. Both energies are provided from decay of the nuclear mass. Is this what you call, or equivalent to, vacuum decay? Andrew On 5/29/23, Axil Axil wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmLsF5yEd9o *Garett Moddel has patented (it actually works) a device that extracts energy from the vacuum. * An experiment that show energy extraction from the vacuum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rgn-10sSJI In his product development, Moddel has found that extracting energy from the vacuum causes unavoidable decay of the matter that his device is constructed from. This decay is called vacuum decay and is seen in all LENR devices that produce energy. Ths decay is a significant issue that must be overcome before LENR can be used as a reliable power source. On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:12 PM Jones Beene wrote: The premise is that entangled behavior is a feature of an expanded ground state— the goal being to harvest zero-point energy from a system whose ground state naturally features entanglement and redundancy https://www.wired.com/story/the-quest-to-use-quantum-mechanics-to-pull-energy-out-of-nothing/?bxid=5cec25cb3f92a45b30ed10b5=46300417=Wired_etl_load=Email_0_EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ_brand=wired_mailing=WIR_Daily_052823 -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
Re: [Vo]:This could relate to the Mills/Holmlid effect
Axil Axil, When a free electron falls into a deep atomic orbit, it gains kinetic energy and a photon of the same amount is emitted. Both energies are provided from decay of the nuclear mass. Is this what you call, or equivalent to, vacuum decay? Andrew On 5/29/23, Axil Axil wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmLsF5yEd9o > > > *Garett Moddel has patented (it actually works) a device that extracts > energy from the vacuum. * > > An experiment that show energy extraction from the vacuum > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rgn-10sSJI > > In his product development, Moddel has found that extracting energy from > the vacuum causes unavoidable decay of the matter that his device is > constructed from. This decay is called vacuum decay and is seen in all LENR > devices that produce energy. Ths decay is a significant issue that must be > overcome before LENR can be used as a reliable power source. > > > > On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:12 PM Jones Beene wrote: > >> The premise is that entangled behavior is a feature of an expanded ground >> state— the goal being to harvest zero-point energy from a system whose >> ground state naturally features entanglement and redundancy >> >> >> https://www.wired.com/story/the-quest-to-use-quantum-mechanics-to-pull-energy-out-of-nothing/?bxid=5cec25cb3f92a45b30ed10b5=46300417=Wired_etl_load=Email_0_EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ_brand=wired_mailing=WIR_Daily_052823 >> >> >> >> >
Re: [Vo]:This could relate to the Mills/Holmlid effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmLsF5yEd9o *Garett Moddel has patented (it actually works) a device that extracts energy from the vacuum. * An experiment that show energy extraction from the vacuum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rgn-10sSJI In his product development, Moddel has found that extracting energy from the vacuum causes unavoidable decay of the matter that his device is constructed from. This decay is called vacuum decay and is seen in all LENR devices that produce energy. Ths decay is a significant issue that must be overcome before LENR can be used as a reliable power source. On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:12 PM Jones Beene wrote: > The premise is that entangled behavior is a feature of an expanded ground > state— the goal being to harvest zero-point energy from a system whose > ground state naturally features entanglement and redundancy > > > https://www.wired.com/story/the-quest-to-use-quantum-mechanics-to-pull-energy-out-of-nothing/?bxid=5cec25cb3f92a45b30ed10b5=46300417=Wired_etl_load=Email_0_EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ_brand=wired_mailing=WIR_Daily_052823 > > > >
[Vo]:This could relate to the Mills/Holmlid effect
The premise is that entangled behavior is a feature of an expanded ground state— the goal being to harvest zero-point energy from a system whose ground state naturally features entanglement and redundancy https://www.wired.com/story/the-quest-to-use-quantum-mechanics-to-pull-energy-out-of-nothing/?bxid=5cec25cb3f92a45b30ed10b5=46300417=Wired_etl_load=Email_0_EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ_brand=wired_mailing=WIR_Daily_052823
Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
I would probably like to reconsider and reformulate this in hindsight On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 9:20 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com < bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Only 2 POINTS ON A SPHERICAL SURFACE CAN HAVE THE SAME VECTOR DIRECTION > AND HENCE THE SAME VELLOICTRY, 0 velocity is not considered. One would > assume the same corrodent system for velocity defines the spherical surface > and its points. The 2 points would lie on a line that runs through the > center of the spherical surface at the surface. > > > > > > The statement assumes that the tenants of solid geometry apply to real > spcce > > > > Bob cook > > - > > > > *From: *Jürg Wyttenbach > *Sent: *Saturday, May 6, 2023 11:00 AM > *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm > > > > Stefan > > There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a > sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) > > > J.W. > > On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the > > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects > > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and > > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk > > > > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not > > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. > > -- > Jürg Wyttenbach > Bifangstr. 22 > 8910 Affoltern am Albis > > +41 44 760 14 18 > +41 79 246 36 06 > > >
RE: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
Only 2 POINTS ON A SPHERICAL SURFACE CAN HAVE THE SAME VECTOR DIRECTION AND HENCE THE SAME VELLOICTRY, 0 velocity is not considered. One would assume the same corrodent system for velocity defines the spherical surface and its points. The 2 points would lie on a line that runs through the center of the spherical surface at the surface. The statement assumes that the tenants of solid geometry apply to real spcce Bob cook - From: Jürg Wyttenbach<mailto:ju...@datamart.ch> Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2023 11:00 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm Stefan There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) J.W. On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk > > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
Re: [Vo]:Fundamentals of charge
On 22.05.2023 18:50, bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: Furthermore it is broadly considered that the potential energy equals the kinetic energy of the system This does not even hold for planetary systems/orbits. It's a beginners error... On an elliptic orbit trajectory there are just two points (even this is simplified due to precision/nutation) where this E-kin = E-pot holds. It's an average only! J.W. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
Re: [Vo]:Fundamentals of charge
How is the Casimir effect consistent? On Mon, May 22, 2023, 12:50 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com < bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > The 2 laws of thermodynamics are largely taught in coilleges and > universities around the world. > > > > > > They are: > > > >1. Conservation of energy in all interactions of matter within the >boundaries of a adiabatic system; >2. Entropy (a measure of disorder, energy density special >homogeneity) in an adiabatic closed system of matter > > > > > > The total energy of a closed system consists of potential energy > associated with fields and kinetic in local clumps of matter. Furthermore > it is broadly considered that the potential energy equals the kinetic > energy of the system and , if the system is adiabatic and stable, the > kinetic must be rotational (spin) with quantized angular momentum. > > There is no free energy with corresponding LINEAR MOMENTUM in a stable > system. > > > > The theory of quantum mechanics post dates the theory thermodynamics , but > is considered consistent IMHO. > > > > > > Bob Cook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Jürg Wyttenbach > *Sent: *Friday, May 19, 2023 2:48 PM > *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Fundamentals of charge > > > > Stefan, > > All old models are ideals and simplifications. Nature is highly non > linear and you certainly cannot increase the angular momentum by n*h. > The reason is that after adding a quantum of energy the next resonance > is slightly larger. So it looks like h(1+1)*(1+dh)^n... > > In mechanics you can get n for macroscopic bodies only under very > special conditions... > > J.W. > > On 19.05.2023 21:19, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > > http://itampe.com/on-the-fundamentals-of-charge.html > > > > I must say that my intuition and back of the envelope analysis seem to > > pan out very nicely when I start to investigate math more seriously. > > It all fit very well, actually a very satisfying result and this will > > make the foundations of Mills GUTCP very understandable. I can't help > > but think that this is a 1900 approach to superstrings ... > > -- > Jürg Wyttenbach > Bifangstr. 22 > 8910 Affoltern am Albis > > +41 44 760 14 18 > +41 79 246 36 06 > > >
RE: [Vo]:Fundamentals of charge
The 2 laws of thermodynamics are largely taught in coilleges and universities around the world. They are: 1. Conservation of energy in all interactions of matter within the boundaries of a adiabatic system; 2. Entropy (a measure of disorder, energy density special homogeneity) in an adiabatic closed system of matter The total energy of a closed system consists of potential energy associated with fields and kinetic in local clumps of matter. Furthermore it is broadly considered that the potential energy equals the kinetic energy of the system and , if the system is adiabatic and stable, the kinetic must be rotational (spin) with quantized angular momentum. There is no free energy with corresponding LINEAR MOMENTUM in a stable system. The theory of quantum mechanics post dates the theory thermodynamics , but is considered consistent IMHO. Bob Cook From: Jürg Wyttenbach<mailto:ju...@datamart.ch> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2023 2:48 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fundamentals of charge Stefan, All old models are ideals and simplifications. Nature is highly non linear and you certainly cannot increase the angular momentum by n*h. The reason is that after adding a quantum of energy the next resonance is slightly larger. So it looks like h(1+1)*(1+dh)^n... In mechanics you can get n for macroscopic bodies only under very special conditions... J.W. On 19.05.2023 21:19, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > http://itampe.com/on-the-fundamentals-of-charge.html > > I must say that my intuition and back of the envelope analysis seem to > pan out very nicely when I start to investigate math more seriously. > It all fit very well, actually a very satisfying result and this will > make the foundations of Mills GUTCP very understandable. I can't help > but think that this is a 1900 approach to superstrings ... -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
Re: [Vo]:Fundamentals of charge
You generally start at the first approximation. The approach I do is very sound as I make sure the models are lorentz invariant. The calculations are very satisfactory and explains a lot of why's that one may have. Although the basic block is simple, as you construct the bigger structures, complications arise that hide the simple structure and the observations we see on the macroscopic level, with their complexite will follow. You use geometry to answer many questions. As things in this model do not interact unless certain conditions are met you can overlay and in the end get higher dimensional freedoms and I fully expect that you will be able to connect your findings with certain geometrical constructs in 3D. On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:48 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Stefan, > > All old models are ideals and simplifications. Nature is highly non > linear and you certainly cannot increase the angular momentum by n*h. > The reason is that after adding a quantum of energy the next resonance > is slightly larger. So it looks like h(1+1)*(1+dh)^n... > > In mechanics you can get n for macroscopic bodies only under very > special conditions... > > J.W. > > On 19.05.2023 21:19, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > > http://itampe.com/on-the-fundamentals-of-charge.html > > > > I must say that my intuition and back of the envelope analysis seem to > > pan out very nicely when I start to investigate math more seriously. > > It all fit very well, actually a very satisfying result and this will > > make the foundations of Mills GUTCP very understandable. I can't help > > but think that this is a 1900 approach to superstrings ... > > -- > Jürg Wyttenbach > Bifangstr. 22 > 8910 Affoltern am Albis > > +41 44 760 14 18 > +41 79 246 36 06 > >
Re: [Vo]:Fundamentals of charge
Stefan, All old models are ideals and simplifications. Nature is highly non linear and you certainly cannot increase the angular momentum by n*h. The reason is that after adding a quantum of energy the next resonance is slightly larger. So it looks like h(1+1)*(1+dh)^n... In mechanics you can get n for macroscopic bodies only under very special conditions... J.W. On 19.05.2023 21:19, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: http://itampe.com/on-the-fundamentals-of-charge.html I must say that my intuition and back of the envelope analysis seem to pan out very nicely when I start to investigate math more seriously. It all fit very well, actually a very satisfying result and this will make the foundations of Mills GUTCP very understandable. I can't help but think that this is a 1900 approach to superstrings ... -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
[Vo]:Fundamentals of charge
http://itampe.com/on-the-fundamentals-of-charge.html I must say that my intuition and back of the envelope analysis seem to pan out very nicely when I start to investigate math more seriously. It all fit very well, actually a very satisfying result and this will make the foundations of Mills GUTCP very understandable. I can't help but think that this is a 1900 approach to superstrings ...
Re: [Vo]:AI Invited to Bilderberg
I thought for a moment this meant they invited an AI ChatBot to address the Bilderberg meeting. That would be a good article for The Onion. - Jed
[Vo]:AI Invited to Bilderberg
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/bilderberg-openai-microsoft-google-join-ai-talks-at-secretive-meeting.html
RE: [Vo]:In case you missed it
I HOPE THE 10M DOES NOT JUST BUTTER THE BREAD OF ENTITIES WITH A CONFLIC OF INTEREST REGARDING LENR R SEE LIST BELOW * Amphionic (Dexter, MI) will focus on exploring if LENR are produced in potential wells existing between two nanoscale surfaces by controlling metal nanoparticle (NP) geometry, separation, composition, and deuterium loading. (Award amount: $295,924) * Energetics Technology Center (Indian Head, MD) will use electrochemical co-deposition of a deuterated palladium metal compound on a metal substrate conformed onto a plastic scintillator to establish and sustain LENR. (Award amount: $1,500,000) * Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley, CA) will draw from knowledge based on previous work using higher energy ion beams as an external excitation source for LENR on metal hydrides electrochemically loaded with deuterium. The team proposes to systematically vary materials and conditions, while monitoring nuclear event rates with a suite of diagnostics. (Award amount: $1,500,000) * Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA) will develop an experimental platform that thoroughly and reproducibly tests claims of nuclear anomalies in gas-loaded metal-hydrogen systems. (Award amount: $2,000,000) * Stanford University (Redwood City, CA) will explore a technical solution based on LENR-active nanoparticles and gaseous deuterium. (Award amount: $1,500,000) * Texas Tech University (Lubbock, TX) will focus on advanced materials fabrication, characterization, and analysis, along with advanced detection of nuclear products as a resource for teams within the LENR Exploratory Topic. (Award amount: $1,150,000) * University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI) will use a gas cycling experiment that passes deuterium gas through a chamber filled with palladium nanocrystalline samples. Variables will include temperature, nanocrystalline size, and laser wavelength. (Award amount: $1,108,412) * University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI) will provide capability to measure hypothetical neutron, gamma, and ion emissions from LENR experiments. Modern instrumentation will be coupled with best practices in data acquisition, analysis, and understanding of backgrounds to interpret collected data and evaluate the proposed signal. (Award amount: $902,213) BOB COOK Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 5:39 AM To: vortex<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:In case you missed it This has been reported before in less detail DOE Funds $10 Million to Settle LENR Controversy | NextBigFuture.com<https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/05/doe-funds-10-million-to-settle-lenr-controversy.html#more-182823> [cid:image003.png@01D98980.E5364AA0] [cid:image004.png@01D98980.E5364AA0] DOE Funds $10 Million to Settle LENR Controversy | NextBigFuture.com In February, 2023, the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) $10 million in funding for eight projects working to dete...
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
Robin wrote: > These bots have an API that lets them access wiki, or so they claim. > Try asking for something else that is not on LENR-CANR. I excluded all data outside of LENR-CANR.org. That is an option in the FastChat Bot configuration. This Bot used the word "J'Accuse" as a synonym for some word or phrase it found in a document at LENR-CANR.org. I do not know which document. It can be hard to discover that. The Bots often use synonyms, or paraphrasing. I think this is because the data is tokenized and the bot may not store the original words. Bots store alphanumeric tokens instead of words. So the original words may not be available in the Bot database. I asked the public version of ChatGPT about this. She is a leading expert in AI technology. Here are her responses: ME: What is tokenized data in an ai system? BOT: In AI systems, tokenization refers to the process of breaking down a text or sequence of words into smaller units called tokens. These tokens can be individual words, phrases, or even characters. Tokenization is an essential step in natural language processing (NLP) and other machine learning tasks that involve processing text data. By breaking down text into individual tokens, AI systems can analyze and interpret the meaning of the text more efficiently. Tokenization typically involves removing any punctuation, converting all characters to lowercase, and splitting the text into tokens based on a delimiter such as a space or punctuation mark. The resulting tokens can then be encoded and used as inputs to various machine learning models. Overall, tokenization helps to simplify and standardize text data so that it can be effectively analyzed and processed by AI systems. ME: A token is a numerical value, right? In some cases, can two different words for one concept -- synonyms -- have the same token? Or a token with a close numeric value? BOT: Tokens are not necessarily numerical values. In natural language processing, tokens are typically represented as strings of characters or words, which can then be encoded as numerical values for machine learning algorithms to process. When using tokenization, two different words that represent the same concept (synonyms) can be assigned the same token to enable the machine learning algorithm to recognize them as equivalent. In this case, the goal of tokenization is to reduce the vocabulary size and improve the efficiency of the model without losing critical information. However, it's important to note that tokens with close numeric values should not be used interchangeably. Each token should be unique and represent a distinct concept or word in the input text. If two tokens have similar numeric values, it could lead to confusion and inaccuracies in the machine learning model's results. Therefore, tokenization algorithms typically ensure that each token has a unique and distinguishable value. ME: I have noted that when an IA describes the content of a document, it sometimes uses synonyms instead of the original words. In a few cases, I think it did this even when I asked for a verbatim quote. Is this because the content is stored as tokens, and the exact original words are not available? BOT: Yes, it is possible that the AI is using synonyms to describe the content of a document because it is working with tokenized data and not the original words. When an AI system tokenizes text data, it breaks down the text into smaller units called tokens, which can be individual words, phrases, or even characters. These tokens are then used as inputs to machine learning models, which can use various techniques to analyze and interpret the meaning of the text. Sometimes, these models may use synonyms or other related words to describe the content of a document because the original words may not be available or may not be the best fit for the context. Additionally, some AI systems may use techniques like paraphrasing or summarization to generate new text based on the input data. In these cases, the AI may use synonyms or other related words to convey the same meaning as the original text while also improving readability or reducing complexity. However, if you specifically requested a verbatim quote and the AI system did not provide it, it is possible that there was an error or a misunderstanding in the processing of your request. It's important to keep in mind that AI systems are not perfect and may not always provide the exact results that you expect. ME: How should I phrase a request to see the original data? Should I use the word "verbatim"? Or some other word? BOT: If you want to see the original data or text without any modifications or substitutions, using the word "verbatim" is an appropriate way to phrase your request. Verbatim means word for word, exactly as it was said or written. So, you could phrase your request like this: "Can I please see the original text verbatim, without any modifications or substitutions?" This clearly
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 17 May 2023 11:32:10 -0400: Hi, [snip] These bots have an API that lets them access wiki, or so they claim. Try asking for something else that is not on LENR-CANR. >[The word "J'Acuse" appears nowhere in the LENR-CANR corpus.] > >. . . He also wrote letters to MIT's president and assistant to the >president requesting an investigation into the alleged misconduct. >Additionally, Mallove responded to a statement on cold fusion issued by the >MIT News Office in August 1991 with a point-by-point rebuttal. > >[Not true. BOT #1 knows better.] > >BOT 1 > >Is there a paper by Mallove describing events at MIT? >BOT: Yes, there is a paper by Mallove that describes events at MIT. The >paper is titled "MIT Special Report" and was published in Infinite Energy >in 1999. The paper explores the major role of MIT in shaping the history of >the investigation of cold fusion. You can find the paper at this URL: >http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MalloveEmitspecial.pdf Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
This is uncanny. CHATBOT 2: BOT: Hello! What can I do for you today? What did Mallove say about the experiment at MIT? BOT: Eugene Mallove accused MIT of publishing fudged experimental findings to support their early condemnation of the work of Pons and Fleischmann. He believed that MIT's researchers generated excess heat in their cold fusion experiment but then altered the findings in their final report. Mallove claimed that the scientists at MIT's Plasma Fusion Center had a vested interest in seeing cold fusion fail, as they were receiving significant federal funding for hot fusion research. Mallove resigned from his position at MIT and demanded an investigation into the alleged misconduct. He also accused the university of manipulating the media and altering data to discredit the work of the Utah scientists. Is there a paper by Mallove describing this? BOT: There is no specific paper by Mallove solely focused on this incident mentioned in the dataset. However, Mallove did submit a 17-page "J'Accuse" letter to MIT detailing his accusations against the institution and its researchers. . . . [The word "J'Acuse" appears nowhere in the LENR-CANR corpus.] . . . He also wrote letters to MIT's president and assistant to the president requesting an investigation into the alleged misconduct. Additionally, Mallove responded to a statement on cold fusion issued by the MIT News Office in August 1991 with a point-by-point rebuttal. [Not true. BOT #1 knows better.] BOT 1 Is there a paper by Mallove describing events at MIT? BOT: Yes, there is a paper by Mallove that describes events at MIT. The paper is titled "MIT Special Report" and was published in Infinite Energy in 1999. The paper explores the major role of MIT in shaping the history of the investigation of cold fusion. You can find the paper at this URL: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MalloveEmitspecial.pdf
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
H L V wrote: > For example, although chatgpt 4 is more accurate than 3, it has lost some > speed. > That is typical of computer programs. You often have to choose between speed and accuracy. When there is a tremendous amount of data, I often run a program to extract summary data, to give a quick answer. For example, there are 4.7 million download records so far this year at LENR-CANR.org. I extract acrobat file download totals only into spreadsheets. The one at LENR-CANR.org is particularly slow. The vendor asked me whether it should be set for faster performance or a deeper search. I opted for a deep search. I explained this on the input screen: These Bots are from https://www.chatfast.io/. They may respond more slowly than other ChatGPT bot you have used, because they are optimized to do deep searches, to remember context, and because this is ChatGPT Version 4. They may take 30 seconds or more to answer your questions.
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
On the other hand we have not started yet to optimize the speed of them. Also consider what is happening on the hardware side. On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 3:18 PM H L V wrote: > A cognitive scientist has suggested that the performance of these chatbots > may have operational limits or trade-offs that we do not yet understand. > For example, although chatgpt 4 is more accurate than 3, it has lost some > speed. > > Harry > > On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:36 PM Jed Rothwell > wrote: > >> The LENR-CANR.org ChatBot has been upgraded to ChatGPT version 4. It >> seems to work better, with fewer hallucinations. It may be slower. >> >> I asked it some of the questions version 3 could not answer. It answered >> them correctly. It still gets confused. It thought that McKubre made a >> statement that Bockris made. I asked for a verbatim quote and tracked it >> down to Bockris. >> >>
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
A cognitive scientist has suggested that the performance of these chatbots may have operational limits or trade-offs that we do not yet understand. For example, although chatgpt 4 is more accurate than 3, it has lost some speed. Harry On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:36 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > The LENR-CANR.org ChatBot has been upgraded to ChatGPT version 4. It seems > to work better, with fewer hallucinations. It may be slower. > > I asked it some of the questions version 3 could not answer. It answered > them correctly. It still gets confused. It thought that McKubre made a > statement that Bockris made. I asked for a verbatim quote and tracked it > down to Bockris. > >
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
That is just amazing. On Tue, May 16, 2023, 9:36 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > The LENR-CANR.org ChatBot has been upgraded to ChatGPT version 4. It seems > to work better, with fewer hallucinations. It may be slower. > > I asked it some of the questions version 3 could not answer. It answered > them correctly. It still gets confused. It thought that McKubre made a > statement that Bockris made. I asked for a verbatim quote and tracked it > down to Bockris. > >
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
The LENR-CANR.org ChatBot has been upgraded to ChatGPT version 4. It seems to work better, with fewer hallucinations. It may be slower. I asked it some of the questions version 3 could not answer. It answered them correctly. It still gets confused. It thought that McKubre made a statement that Bockris made. I asked for a verbatim quote and tracked it down to Bockris.
[Vo]:In case you missed it
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[Vo]:GPT-4 Goes Real-Time
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Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
Beware of hallucinations! This is completely wrong: What are the author(s), title and URL of the Pd-B experiments at China Lake? BOT: The author of the paper on Pd-B experiments at China Lake is Miles, M. and B.F. Bush. The title of the paper is "Palladium-Boron Cathodes Produce Excess Power in Electrolytic Cells Using Heavy Water and Lithium Deuteride" and the URL is http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesMpalladiumb.pdf. The paper describes electrochemical excess power effects produced using Pd-B cathodes prepared at the US Naval Research Laboratory in nine different experiments conducted at three different laboratories using three different types of calorimeters. The title is made up. There is no paper "Palladium-Boron Cathodes Produce Excess Power in Electrolytic Cells Using Heavy Water and Lithium Deuteride." The URL is made up, in the right format for LENR-CANR.org! This is somewhat right, but somewhat of a hallucination, because Miles did not sent samples to SRI as far as I know: Miles sent samples of effluent gas to three other labs to be tested for helium. Do you know the names of those labs? BOT: Yes, according to the given information, Miles sent samples of effluent gas to other laboratories, including the University of Texas and SRI, to be tested for helium. [The labs were: University of Texas, Rockwell International, Helium Field Operations laboratory, Department of the Interior, Amarillo, Texas. The Bot could not find them all.] Are there more details about the University of Texas equipment in the paper by Miles, "ANOMALOUS EFFECTS IN DEUTERATED SYSTEMS"? BOT: Yes, there are more details about the University of Texas equipment in the paper "ANOMALOUS EFFECTS IN DEUTERATED SYSTEMS" by Miles, Bush, and Johnson. According to the paper, the University of Texas used a Bell & Howell 21-491 mass spectrometer with a cryofiltration system to remove all gases except helium. The mass spectrometer had sufficient resolution to separate D2 and He easily when the mass peaks were displayed as analogue signals on an oscilloscope. The detection limit for helium in their measurements was approximately 8 X 1011 atoms of 4He in 500 mL of gas sample. [ANOMALOUS EFFECTS IN DEUTERATED SYSTEMS is here: https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesManomalousea.pdf. It does not say "Bell & Howell" anywhere in this document. However, this detail is in another document by Ben Bush: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BushBFheliumprod.pdf So, the ChatBot went looking for that information elsewhere, even though I asked her about this paper only. The quote "8 X 1011 atoms of 4He in 500 mL of gas sample" is from Miles, ICCF2, p. 364, https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/SIFthescience.pdf. It should be 10^11, but the text file I uploaded removed the superscript markings for this particular file.] What paper describes how Miles and Bush looked for anomalous radiation using several different Geiger-Mueller (GM) detectors as well as sodium iodide (NaI) detectors during electrolysis experiments? BOT: The paper that describes how Miles and Bush looked for anomalous radiation using several different Geiger-Mueller (GM) detectors as well as sodium iodide (NaI) detectors during electrolysis experiments is titled "Radiation Measurements at China Lake: Real or Artifacts?" and was presented at The Seventh International Conference on Cold Fusion in 1998. The paper was authored by Miles, M. and B.F. Bush and can be found at the URL http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesMradiationm.pdf. [CORRECT.] >
[Vo]:LENR-CANR.org ChatBot improved
I replaced all files with text formatted files, and corrected some that were not machine readable. I think the ChatBot performance has improved. It finds URLs more often, and it finds details in the papers. It still misses some details. See this exchange: BOT: Hello! What can I do for you today? Did nasa researchers verify results from K2CO3? Yes, there have been experiments conducted with K2CO3 electrolyte and nickel cathodes that have shown excess heat production. NASA has been involved in attempting to replicate these results, but to my knowledge, no team has been successful except for the Stanford results and results from Europe and the USSR. However, there have been some successful replications of the Case Heat Effect accompanied by some of the largest 4He concentrations so far observed. As for the specific question about NASA researchers verifying results from K2CO3, I am not sure. Would you like me to look up more information on that? Yes. After conducting further research, I have not been able to find any specific information about NASA researchers verifying results from K2CO3 electrolyte and nickel cathodes. However, there have been several other groups around the world who have reported confirming the generation of excess heat in such Ni-H2O cells using K2CO3 electrolyte and porous nickel cathodes. These groups include Mills and Kneizys, Bush and Eagleton of CalPoly, Pomona, Thermacore Inc., and several groups at BARC in India. Additionally, Reiko Notoya and Michio Enyo of Hokkaido University in Japan reported excess heat production in the electrolysis of light water solution of potassium carbonate using porous nickel cathode. Are there papers from Fralick, author or coauther? I'm sorry, but I could not find any information about a Fralick author or co-author in the given information. Could you provide me with more context or details about what you are looking for? Is there a paper authored by Niedra, co-author Fralick? I apologize for the confusion earlier. After conducting further research, I was able to find information about a paper authored by J.M. Niedra and Ira T. Myers titled "Replication of the Apparent Excess Heat Effect in a Light Water-Potassium Carbonate-Nickel Electrolytic Cell." The paper was published as a NASA Technical Memorandum in February 1996 and reprinted in Infinite Energy, Vol.2, No.7, 1996, pp.62-70. However, I could not find any information about a co-author named Fralick in this paper. [THIS IS MY MISTAKE. I forgot to include Fralick in the LENR-CANR.org database. Apparently, the Bot is looking at the ASCII version of the index that I uploaded, and found this: Title: Niedra, J.M. and I.T. Myers, Replication of the apparent excess heat effect in light water-potassium carbonate-nickel-electrolytic cell. Infinite Energy, 1996. 2(7): p. 62. URL: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/NiedraJMreplicatio.pdf First Author: Niedra, J. M. All Authors: Niedra, J. M., Myers, I. T. Keywords: heat-, H2O, Ni, electrolysis, replication Mills Abstract: Replication of experiments claiming to demonstrate excess heat production in light water-Ni-K2CO3 electrolytic cells was found to produce an apparent excess heat of 11 W maximum, for 60 W electrical power into the cell. Power gains ranged from 1.06 to 1.68. The cell was operated at four different dc current levels plus one pulsed current run at 1 Hz, 10% duty cycle. The 28 liter cell used in these verification tests was on loan from a private corporation whose own tests with similar cells are documented to produce 50 W steady excess heat for a continuous period exceeding hundreds of days. The apparent excess heat can not be readily explained either in terms of nonlinearity of the cell's thermal conductance at a low temperature differential or by thermoelectric heat pumping. However, the present data do admit efficient recombination of dissolved hydrogen-oxygen as an ordinary explanation. Calorimetry methods and heat balance calculations for the verification tests are described. Considering the large magnitude of benefit if this effect is found to be a genuine new energy source, a more thorough investigation of evolved heat in the nickel-hydrogen system in both electrolytic and gaseous loading cells remains warranted.] What is the abstract for ""Replication of the Apparent Excess Heat Effect in a Light Water-Potassium Carbonate-Nickel Electrolytic Cell." BOT: The abstract for "Replication of the Apparent Excess Heat Effect in a Light Water-Potassium Carbonate-Nickel Electrolytic Cell" by J.M. Niedra and Ira T. Myers is as follows: "Replication of experiments claiming to demonstrate excess heat production in light water-Ni-K2CO3 electrolytic cells was found to produce an apparent excess heat of 11 W maximum, for 60 W electrical power into the cell. Power gains ranged from 1.06 to 1.68. The cell was operated at four different dc current levels plus one pulsed current run at 1 Hz, 10% duty cycle. The 28 liter cell used in these verification
[Vo]:CF alternative
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FW: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
CORRECTION: Yesterday I commented on the sub structure of nucleons as having Thau particle / I MEANT TO INDICATE “tau” partical. The earlier data from Jefferson Lab indicated a sub structure of 9 muon. Bob Cook From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 3:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Link between em and qm This discussion suggests that 3-D space geometry goes to 1-D space as dimensions go to 0. Quantum Magazine had a item on this issue about 3 weeks ago. IO made note of this item in a Vortex commentator the time. Space may also have a lower volume limit , suggesting its also quantized and not continuous to 0. As Robin has pointed out in the past, magnetic fields seem to be continuous, however. This point raises whether the curl of a magnetic field is another parameter of nature. I have to think the curl of a magmatic field, as considered in Maxwell’s classical E-M theory , is alson quantized as is space itself and as magnetic dipoles are are quantized at a space scale around 10^-35 meters, consistent with the scale of the Planck constant h. The surface defined as a Clifford torus may well become a sphere at small dimensions. The physics of space and solid geometry may come together in the concept of REALITY. Bob Cook From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe<mailto:stefan.ita...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2023 7:16 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm It's kind of crazy how the brain works. It parses your complaints and then when I wake up I see things even more clear. So the addition to the setup are that we need to constrain interactions in the rest frame of the current moving at C (you can consider a limiting argument to make this stringent) now I think that in this reference frame we will need the parallel line segments to be also located so that the line connecting them are orthogonal to the stream. This simplifies many things and I assumed this without stating it clearly. This has some implications for the decomposition of the 3 quark systems. First of all we only consider systems where there are two paths that are parallel and that you can do. And then make a similar system so that we do get the triangulation we are after and can get the argument done (as all three are not lined up in that example). This is possible if everything is symmetrized. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 9:05 PM Jürg Wyttenbach mailto:ju...@datamart.ch>> wrote: Also the potential is not correct... If you do it quark like 2/3 2/3 -1/3 you will get 2*(2/9) - 4/9 = 0! because 2/3 are repulsive... You should always write down all details of what you exactly name how and what e.g. potential means. The Dirac equation is plain nonsense as the e/p magnetic moment field (the strongest of all) is missing. Also the 3 rotation solution is unphysical for mass... So going on with old garbage just produces a new flavor of old garbage... J.W. On 06.05.2023 20:21, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: You are right, the paths are more complex than just on a sphere, we build it up as an addition of such paths. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:00 PM Jürg Wyttenbach mailto:ju...@datamart.ch>> wrote: Stefan There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) J.W. On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk > > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06 -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
RE: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
This discussion suggests that 3-D space geometry goes to 1-D space as dimensions go to 0. Quantum Magazine had a item on this issue about 3 weeks ago. IO made note of this item in a Vortex commentator the time. Space may also have a lower volume limit , suggesting its also quantized and not continuous to 0. As Robin has pointed out in the past, magnetic fields seem to be continuous, however. This point raises whether the curl of a magnetic field is another parameter of nature. I have to think the curl of a magmatic field, as considered in Maxwell’s classical E-M theory , is alson quantized as is space itself and as magnetic dipoles are are quantized at a space scale around 10^-35 meters, consistent with the scale of the Planck constant h. The surface defined as a Clifford torus may well become a sphere at small dimensions. The physics of space and solid geometry may come together in the concept of REALITY. Bob Cook From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe<mailto:stefan.ita...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2023 7:16 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm It's kind of crazy how the brain works. It parses your complaints and then when I wake up I see things even more clear. So the addition to the setup are that we need to constrain interactions in the rest frame of the current moving at C (you can consider a limiting argument to make this stringent) now I think that in this reference frame we will need the parallel line segments to be also located so that the line connecting them are orthogonal to the stream. This simplifies many things and I assumed this without stating it clearly. This has some implications for the decomposition of the 3 quark systems. First of all we only consider systems where there are two paths that are parallel and that you can do. And then make a similar system so that we do get the triangulation we are after and can get the argument done (as all three are not lined up in that example). This is possible if everything is symmetrized. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 9:05 PM Jürg Wyttenbach mailto:ju...@datamart.ch>> wrote: Also the potential is not correct... If you do it quark like 2/3 2/3 -1/3 you will get 2*(2/9) - 4/9 = 0! because 2/3 are repulsive... You should always write down all details of what you exactly name how and what e.g. potential means. The Dirac equation is plain nonsense as the e/p magnetic moment field (the strongest of all) is missing. Also the 3 rotation solution is unphysical for mass... So going on with old garbage just produces a new flavor of old garbage... J.W. On 06.05.2023 20:21, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: You are right, the paths are more complex than just on a sphere, we build it up as an addition of such paths. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:00 PM Jürg Wyttenbach mailto:ju...@datamart.ch>> wrote: Stefan There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) J.W. On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk > > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06 -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
[Vo]:With the Writer's Guild on Strike...
...here's your chance, AI. https://news.yahoo.com/ai-could-replace-80-jobs-211900514.html
Re: [Vo]:An Excellent Movie on AI
Not nascent AI, agreed. As I said, it's evolutionary. Cheers! On Mon, May 8, 2023, 5:18 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > It turns out I could watch it. It was pretty good. Not much about AI, but > thought provoking. > > - Jed > >
Re: [Vo]:An Excellent Movie on AI
It turns out I could watch it. It was pretty good. Not much about AI, but thought provoking. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:An Excellent Movie on AI
The first one definitely has expert consultants. I'm not so sure about the one opening in June. IMDb: : Simulant https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13130024/ Pretty good but a theme that has been done before. On Mon, May 8, 2023, 3:18 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > I can't say much because the plot is quite evolutionary. I watch a lot of > movies. This one is well done. > > > > On Mon, May 8, 2023, 3:01 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> I wrote: >> >> >>> It looks interesting, but it is fiction. Right? >>> >> >> I mean, of course it is fiction. But how fictitious? Did AI experts >> contribute? I haven't seen this video. I think I need a Prime Video account >> to see it. >> >> Here is a video about an AI nightmare scenario that was written by >> experts. It is from a group called "Stop Autonomous Weapons." I find it >> scarier than any of the recent predictions about AI. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA >> >>
Re: [Vo]:An Excellent Movie on AI
I can't say much because the plot is quite evolutionary. I watch a lot of movies. This one is well done. On Mon, May 8, 2023, 3:01 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > >> It looks interesting, but it is fiction. Right? >> > > I mean, of course it is fiction. But how fictitious? Did AI experts > contribute? I haven't seen this video. I think I need a Prime Video account > to see it. > > Here is a video about an AI nightmare scenario that was written by > experts. It is from a group called "Stop Autonomous Weapons." I find it > scarier than any of the recent predictions about AI. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA > >
Re: [Vo]:An Excellent Movie on AI
Much fiction is predictive. Iain Banks? HG Wells? One concept it presents is how AI might outlive humanity but remnants remain in the Robots. On Mon, May 8, 2023, 11:48 AM Jed Rothwell wrote: > It looks interesting, but it is fiction. Right? Unless the screenplay is > written by AI experts I doubt it can tell us much about the nature of AI. > > There have been movies with screenplay and technical details done by > experts. "2001 Space Odyssey" is a famous example. > > On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 10:02 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> Stresses the point that it is not entirely artificial as it can include >> the duplicity of its creators. >> >> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20859464 >> >> "The Artifice Girl" >> >
Re: [Vo]:An Excellent Movie on AI
I wrote: > It looks interesting, but it is fiction. Right? > I mean, of course it is fiction. But how fictitious? Did AI experts contribute? I haven't seen this video. I think I need a Prime Video account to see it. Here is a video about an AI nightmare scenario that was written by experts. It is from a group called "Stop Autonomous Weapons." I find it scarier than any of the recent predictions about AI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA
Re: [Vo]:An Excellent Movie on AI
It looks interesting, but it is fiction. Right? Unless the screenplay is written by AI experts I doubt it can tell us much about the nature of AI. There have been movies with screenplay and technical details done by experts. "2001 Space Odyssey" is a famous example. On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 10:02 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > Stresses the point that it is not entirely artificial as it can include > the duplicity of its creators. > > https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20859464 > > "The Artifice Girl" >
Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
It's kind of crazy how the brain works. It parses your complaints and then when I wake up I see things even more clear. So the addition to the setup are that we need to constrain interactions in the rest frame of the current moving at C (you can consider a limiting argument to make this stringent) now I think that in this reference frame we will need the parallel line segments to be also located so that the line connecting them are orthogonal to the stream. This simplifies many things and I assumed this without stating it clearly. This has some implications for the decomposition of the 3 quark systems. First of all we only consider systems where there are two paths that are parallel and that you can do. And then make a similar system so that we do get the triangulation we are after and can get the argument done (as all three are not lined up in that example). This is possible if everything is symmetrized. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 9:05 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Also the potential is not correct... > > If you do it quark like 2/3 2/3 -1/3 you will get 2*(2/9) - 4/9 = 0! > because 2/3 are repulsive... > > You should always write down all details of what you exactly name how and > what e.g. potential means. > > The Dirac equation is plain nonsense as the e/p magnetic moment field (the > strongest of all) is missing. Also the 3 rotation solution is unphysical > for mass... > > So going on with old garbage just produces a new flavor of old garbage... > > J.W. > On 06.05.2023 20:21, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > > You are right, the paths are more complex than just on a sphere, we build > it up as an addition of such paths. > > On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:00 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > >> Stefan >> >> There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a >> sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) >> >> >> J.W. >> >> On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: >> > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the >> > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects >> > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and >> > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. >> > >> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk >> > >> > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not >> > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. >> >> -- >> Jürg Wyttenbach >> Bifangstr. 22 >> 8910 Affoltern am Albis >> >> +41 44 760 14 18 >> +41 79 246 36 06 >> >> -- > Jürg Wyttenbach > Bifangstr. 22 > 8910 Affoltern am Albis > > +41 44 760 14 18 > +41 79 246 36 06 > >
[Vo]:An Excellent Movie on AI
Stresses the point that it is not entirely artificial as it can include the duplicity of its creators. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20859464 "The Artifice Girl"
Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
I added a new name for this paper a new link I have different names on this one, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GChNtVtTgvQzF4jSu1tSjCx5ub9lu4RD/view?usp=share_link On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 9:05 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Also the potential is not correct... > > If you do it quark like 2/3 2/3 -1/3 you will get 2*(2/9) - 4/9 = 0! > because 2/3 are repulsive... > > You should always write down all details of what you exactly name how and > what e.g. potential means. > > The Dirac equation is plain nonsense as the e/p magnetic moment field (the > strongest of all) is missing. Also the 3 rotation solution is unphysical > for mass... > > So going on with old garbage just produces a new flavor of old garbage... > > J.W. > On 06.05.2023 20:21, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > > You are right, the paths are more complex than just on a sphere, we build > it up as an addition of such paths. > > On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:00 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > >> Stefan >> >> There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a >> sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) >> >> >> J.W. >> >> On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: >> > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the >> > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects >> > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and >> > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. >> > >> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk >> > >> > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not >> > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. >> >> -- >> Jürg Wyttenbach >> Bifangstr. 22 >> 8910 Affoltern am Albis >> >> +41 44 760 14 18 >> +41 79 246 36 06 >> >> -- > Jürg Wyttenbach > Bifangstr. 22 > 8910 Affoltern am Albis > > +41 44 760 14 18 > +41 79 246 36 06 > >
Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
You may have a point but I updated the paper and I hope that it does not have this property now. The last update was at 20:34 CET On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 9:05 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Also the potential is not correct... > > If you do it quark like 2/3 2/3 -1/3 you will get 2*(2/9) - 4/9 = 0! > because 2/3 are repulsive... > > You should always write down all details of what you exactly name how and > what e.g. potential means. > > The Dirac equation is plain nonsense as the e/p magnetic moment field (the > strongest of all) is missing. Also the 3 rotation solution is unphysical > for mass... > > So going on with old garbage just produces a new flavor of old garbage... > > J.W. > On 06.05.2023 20:21, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > > You are right, the paths are more complex than just on a sphere, we build > it up as an addition of such paths. > > On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:00 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > >> Stefan >> >> There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a >> sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) >> >> >> J.W. >> >> On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: >> > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the >> > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects >> > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and >> > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. >> > >> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk >> > >> > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not >> > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. >> >> -- >> Jürg Wyttenbach >> Bifangstr. 22 >> 8910 Affoltern am Albis >> >> +41 44 760 14 18 >> +41 79 246 36 06 >> >> -- > Jürg Wyttenbach > Bifangstr. 22 > 8910 Affoltern am Albis > > +41 44 760 14 18 > +41 79 246 36 06 > >
Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
Also the potential is not correct... If you do it quark like 2/3 2/3 -1/3 you will get 2*(2/9) - 4/9 = 0! because 2/3 are repulsive... You should always write down all details of what you exactly name how and what e.g. potential means. The Dirac equation is plain nonsense as the e/p magnetic moment field (the strongest of all) is missing. Also the 3 rotation solution is unphysical for mass... So going on with old garbage just produces a new flavor of old garbage... J.W. On 06.05.2023 20:21, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: You are right, the paths are more complex than just on a sphere, we build it up as an addition of such paths. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:00 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: Stefan There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) J.W. On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk > > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06 -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
You are right, the paths are more complex than just on a sphere, we build it up as an addition of such paths. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 8:00 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Stefan > > There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a > sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) > > > J.W. > > On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: > > I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the > > connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects > > experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and > > end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk > > > > I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not > > a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. > > -- > Jürg Wyttenbach > Bifangstr. 22 > 8910 Affoltern am Albis > > +41 44 760 14 18 > +41 79 246 36 06 > >
Re: [Vo]:Link between em and qm
Stefan There is no such thing as a common velocity for 3 different points on a sphere except for one axes angular motion (w instead of v) J.W. On 06.05.2023 15:33, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind. -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr. 22 8910 Affoltern am Albis +41 44 760 14 18 +41 79 246 36 06
[Vo]:TruthGPT
The man who help start OpenAI but exited due to fear of AI plans his new AI. https://www.engadget.com/elon-musk-says-he-wants-to-start-truthgpt-to-rival-openai-and-google-014938539.html
[Vo]:LENR-CANR.org Chatbot is slower but better
The vendor changed the control parameters for the Chatbot ( https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=2988). When you ask a question, it now takes longer to respond. I think it often takes about 30 seconds. It is worth the delay, because it is improved in various ways. It does a deeper search. I think the answers are more accurate. It remembers context better, from one query to another. You do not have to keep repeating the subject, or the name of the paper. It does a better job finding a URL (where that is available), or quoting a section of the paper verbatim. A verbatim quote is handy because you can use it in a Google search to locate the paper it comes from. Here is an example, for the Index Bot (the one on top). BOT: Hello! What can I do for you today? ME: Has E. Storms written a paper about how to construct a calorimeter? BOT: Yes, E. Storms has written a paper titled "How to Make A Cheap and Effective Seebeck Calorimeter" which describes how to construct a Seebeck calorimeter that is effective in measuring heat generation over a wide range of power with high sensitivity and stability. The paper also provides a successful example of constructing such a device, although it requires considerable investment of time. The paper was presented at the Tenth International Conference on Cold Fusion in 2003 and can be found on the LENR-CANR.org website. ME: What is the URL of this paper? [With the previous settings, the Bot would have asked, "what paper?" It lost track.] BOT: The URL for the paper "How to Make A Cheap and Effective Seebeck Calorimeter" by E. Storms is http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEhowtomakea.pdf. ME: What does the abstract say? Quote it verbatim. BOT: "The Seebeck calorimeter is very effective in measuring heat generation over a wide range of power and with high sensitivity and stability. Such a device can be constructed cheaply and easily, although with considerable investment of time. A successful example is described." Note: If you don't say "quote it verbatim" a Chatbot is apt to summarize the abstract instead. I have replaced some of the files with new versions in text format, derived from the Amazon AWS Textract OCR program. They work better than the previous version. I will replace all of the files in the coming days. If you want to test the new files and the new, slower but better performance, ask any question from any issue of the JCMNS. JCMNS issues are here: https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1495
[Vo]:Link between em and qm
I think the following paper illustrate an avenue to find the connection between EM and QM now take this link and explain Aspects experiment... How come we can define a normal 2000 century model and end up with no determinism and whatnot strangities. https://drive.google.com/file/d/14G9U_Iee4jsppn0Rcp4A5BBrGDRkR5tC/view?usp=drivesdk I will blog in easier to understand format later. But really it's not a difficult stude, which is a good thing in my mind.
Re: [Vo]:A though experiment and discussion that should be important in my view
The point is that as you shrink it energy density will increase and I simply assume there is a limit for how much density space can take. I alsa suggest that this limit is consistent with lorentz transformations as it would not make sense if this depends on which frame the observer has. This also meen a finite size of the structure and hence not a point and not spherical. That's why you need to overlay multiple copies of it and symmetrize. You could see these arguments as a foundation for Mills GUTCP. Here is my blog where you can read more about the idea http://itampe.com/a-comment-on-special-relativity.html On Sat, 6 May 2023, 02:10 Robin wrote: > In reply to Stefan Israelsson Tampe's message of Mon, 1 May 2023 17:52:27 > +0200: > Hi Stefan, > > Though I find it difficult to visualize, I think that if you allow the > major radius of a toroid to shrink to zero, you > end up with a sphere. > Cloud storage:- > > Unsafe, Slow, Expensive > > ...pick any three. > >
Re: [Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!
I originally uploaded all files in Acrobat .pdf format. The vendor advised me that text (.txt) format works better. So, I converted JCMNS issues to text, and replaced the Acrobat copies. It does seem to be working better. I will replace all other files in the coming week. The Bot now finds the elusive Christy L. Frazier, who resembled T. S. Eliot's Macavity, the mystery cat who was not there. ME: Do you have any information on Christy L. Frazier? BOT: Yes, Christy L. Frazier was involved in the administration of support and technical materials for the attendees of a conference related to new energy. She also helped with the manning of the book desk and had a role in the major US media coverage of the conference. Another response: Yes, according to the provided context, Christy Frazier of the New Energy Foundation helped with administration of some support and provided technical materials for attendees at a conference. But the Bot is still confused . . . ME: What was the title of the report Christy L. Frazier wrote? BOT: There is no information provided about Christy L. Frazier writing a report. ME: Do you have any information on the report "ICCF23 Held Virtually from China"? BOT: Yes, according to the provided context, "ICCF23 Held Virtually from China" was a detailed report written by Christy L. Frazier and published in Issue 157 of Infinite Energy in August of 2021. The report covered the International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science (ICCF-23) which was held virtually due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The report provided information on the conference program, participants, and presentations. >
[Vo]:[off topic] greek alpabet
Hi, If you imagine a finger drawing in the sand, then Greek letters are all fast fluid hand motions. :) Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.
Re: [Vo]:A though experiment and discussion that should be important in my view
In reply to Stefan Israelsson Tampe's message of Mon, 1 May 2023 17:52:27 +0200: Hi Stefan, Though I find it difficult to visualize, I think that if you allow the major radius of a toroid to shrink to zero, you end up with a sphere. Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.
Re: [Vo]:A though experiment and discussion that should be important in my view
In reply to Stefan Israelsson Tampe's message of Mon, 1 May 2023 17:52:27 +0200: Hi Stefan, Re. gravity, see https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/2032981/downloads/2032981.pdf Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.
Re: [Vo]:A though experiment and discussion that should be important in my view
In reply to Stefan Israelsson Tampe's message of Mon, 1 May 2023 17:52:27 +0200: Hi Stefan, You write:- "Now the total amount of energy is 2u if we assume equal amount of electrical energy as magnetic energy, hence if we integrate. F = Utot/va But according to special relativity we have, Utot = mc So, F = mc/va No put v = c we see, F = ma" However I think Utot = mc^2 (not mc) and setting v=c => F = m/a not m*a If the we instead start with Utot = mc^2 we get F = mc^2/va which after substituting c for v => F = mc/a. ...so how does c/a magically become a? ;) Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.
Re: [Vo]:Tesla Dumping Rare Earths
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Mon, 1 May 2023 21:48:16 -0400: Hi, This is also interesting, though AFAIK still vaporware. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359645421001877 >You never know with Musk > >https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/10/221024193256.htm > >On Mon, May 1, 2023, 9:23 PM Jones Beene wrote: > >> Terry Blanton wrote:: >> >> > For what magnetic material? >> >> https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-elon-musk-magnet-mystery/ >> >> >> /well - Possibly it is a big surprise - iron nitride ! >> >> This material has been known for a long time (that there is a rare >> nano-phase of iron and nitrogen with spectacular magnetic properties) ... >> but it is very difficult to manufacture >> >> Here is a company trying to capitalize on this approach, but there are >> others >> >> https://www.nironmagnetics.com/. >> >> >> >> Cloud storage:- Unsafe, Slow, Expensive ...pick any three.
Re: [Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!
Here is a "gift copy" of an article with a working copy of a miniature Large Language Model AI. You can see how the AI parses sample texts from Jane Ausin, Shakespeare, the Federalist Papers and other sources. It parses a sample 30,000 times. You can see the outcome at various stages. You can generate as many sample outputs as you want. It produces gibberish at first, and then text which looks a lot like the source, but still does not make sense. The article describes the simplicity of the main algorithm in this technique: "While the inner workings of these algorithms are notoriously opaque, the basic idea behind them is surprisingly simple. They are trained by going through mountains of internet text, repeatedly guessing the next few letters and then grading themselves against the real thing." You see there is no hint of actual human intelligence in the algorithm. It is not imitating or simulating the mechanisms of human intelligence. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/04/26/upshot/gpt-from-scratch.html?unlocked_article_code=Q4gvpJTb9E3YINp_ca4bgZovkWX4G1TiSclGTYsby_fUHiOUcmgMuivsdApz-JTH90er1fEaTX-9sE7IK5_EgbWbYJidtUMCOynDvzCC5l_6JhXaQWq83elkRIYLSTl5Daqd3pSb942K2hIFYeMw_xEPJkyaHobPQOjWFA5D7421wxSsEZfN4FvgO-qv-FJtrNI-E20kKdgFiH7PP9A9liu48jnKueJfVHQJNNKrmMlchcWA-0b47eDZxSVJ7eSpv1ceyir2kLp8P-CIfu_fqtPSYCGckK1AS2RHajIP0Ku6u-_p2NBL8VLvz-jzshxYZusLl4lSFUTMReXDYyv5wW_OpRISrDF4=url-share >
Re: [Vo]:The LENR-CANR ChatGPT is ON LINE!
Here is a "gift copy" of an article from the New York Times describing AI hallucinations, and what causes them. "Gift copy" means it goes around the paywall. When A.I. Chatbots Hallucinate https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/01/business/ai-chatbots-hallucinatation.html?unlocked_article_code=0Rsbr9hefoGwD7XwW3nQbJc_0Fd4_wF1y0g5Lz9xOTZa7F48LPb00laVUChLDgQhW00qzL2x04Q677g59knH0Vscp_Y8oNbeyUNg8o3J7Rft17V5H-5iXG6sTXoetr4Z4oMtjEodqr1uvUMftppZ8JlRxFJQdPflD1rSD939FTTEyDqlSOZADcz6HdKSb5-hDSyfjSxh1prYWpxpVBZFWUOOjLuhdkDCvO9RHWIwLXFWh2OitlfH6_MaCqw-lOUrfAwY0gyEr2OkkjAW4ZzsDOQocdFq0CrAKBLmZaIOUXHbJDtBWhbmF_jwohBRLFEdhyDOlmLC7OCmDJ7bB7-wuyWH7Gl6=url-share
Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT vs L. Ron Hubbard
One advantage of aging is you always have new books in your library. I am rereading Iain Banks Culture series and in the second novel there is a case of an AI blackmailing a human. I remember when I first read it I considered the idea ludicrous. However, today . . . On Wed, May 3, 2023, 1:15 AM CB Sites wrote: > Ahh yes. The old peanut butter sandwich in the VCR fool the AI trick. > > On Tue, May 2, 2023, 8:56 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> This article claims that ChatGPT may be used to start a new religion. >> ChatGPT is *on to it*! Ready already. Here is a query from someone: >> >> >> write a biblical verse in the style of the king james bible explaining >> how to remove a peanut butter sandwich from a VCR >> >> >> And it came to pass that a man was troubled by a peanut butter sandwich, >> for it had been placed within his VCR, and he knew not how to remove it. >> >> And he cried out to the Lord, saying, "Oh, Lord, how can I remove this >> sandwich from my VCR, for it is stuck fast and will not budge?" >> >> And the Lord spoke unto him, saying, "Fear not, my child, for I shall >> guide thy hand and show thee the way. Take thy butter knife, and carefully >> insert it between the sandwich and the VCR, and gently pry them apart. And >> with patience and perseverance, the sandwich shall be removed, and thy VCR >> shall be saved." >> >> And the man did as the Lord commanded, and lo and behold, the sandwich >> was removed from the VCR, and the man was saved. >> >> And the Lord said, "Verily I say unto thee, seek not to put thy peanut >> butter sandwiches in thy VCR, for it is not a suitable place for such >> things. Rather keep thy sandwiches in thy refrigerator or on thy plate, >> where they belong." >> >> And the man heeded the Lord's words, and from that day forth, he kept his >> sandwiches in their proper place, and was saved from trouble and woe. Amen. >> >>
Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT vs L. Ron Hubbard
Ahh yes. The old peanut butter sandwich in the VCR fool the AI trick. On Tue, May 2, 2023, 8:56 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > This article claims that ChatGPT may be used to start a new religion. > ChatGPT is *on to it*! Ready already. Here is a query from someone: > > > write a biblical verse in the style of the king james bible explaining how > to remove a peanut butter sandwich from a VCR > > > And it came to pass that a man was troubled by a peanut butter sandwich, > for it had been placed within his VCR, and he knew not how to remove it. > > And he cried out to the Lord, saying, "Oh, Lord, how can I remove this > sandwich from my VCR, for it is stuck fast and will not budge?" > > And the Lord spoke unto him, saying, "Fear not, my child, for I shall > guide thy hand and show thee the way. Take thy butter knife, and carefully > insert it between the sandwich and the VCR, and gently pry them apart. And > with patience and perseverance, the sandwich shall be removed, and thy VCR > shall be saved." > > And the man did as the Lord commanded, and lo and behold, the sandwich was > removed from the VCR, and the man was saved. > > And the Lord said, "Verily I say unto thee, seek not to put thy peanut > butter sandwiches in thy VCR, for it is not a suitable place for such > things. Rather keep thy sandwiches in thy refrigerator or on thy plate, > where they belong." > > And the man heeded the Lord's words, and from that day forth, he kept his > sandwiches in their proper place, and was saved from trouble and woe. Amen. > >
Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT vs L. Ron Hubbard
This article claims that ChatGPT may be used to start a new religion. ChatGPT is *on to it*! Ready already. Here is a query from someone: write a biblical verse in the style of the king james bible explaining how to remove a peanut butter sandwich from a VCR And it came to pass that a man was troubled by a peanut butter sandwich, for it had been placed within his VCR, and he knew not how to remove it. And he cried out to the Lord, saying, "Oh, Lord, how can I remove this sandwich from my VCR, for it is stuck fast and will not budge?" And the Lord spoke unto him, saying, "Fear not, my child, for I shall guide thy hand and show thee the way. Take thy butter knife, and carefully insert it between the sandwich and the VCR, and gently pry them apart. And with patience and perseverance, the sandwich shall be removed, and thy VCR shall be saved." And the man did as the Lord commanded, and lo and behold, the sandwich was removed from the VCR, and the man was saved. And the Lord said, "Verily I say unto thee, seek not to put thy peanut butter sandwiches in thy VCR, for it is not a suitable place for such things. Rather keep thy sandwiches in thy refrigerator or on thy plate, where they belong." And the man heeded the Lord's words, and from that day forth, he kept his sandwiches in their proper place, and was saved from trouble and woe. Amen.
Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT vs L. Ron Hubbard
On Tue, 2 May 2023, Terry Blanton wrote: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12038355/ChatGPT-create-new -religion-writing-sacred-texts-historian-claims.html A Turing-tested "Chinese Room?" L. Ron Cupboard! (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
[Vo]:ChatGPT vs L. Ron Hubbard
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12038355/ChatGPT-create-new-religion-writing-sacred-texts-historian-claims.html
[Vo]:Could AI Replace Writers
Be afraid, writers https://deadline.com/2023/05/writers-guild-strike-begins-1235340176/
