Re: Clicking Drive of Doom

2005-03-26 Thread Adrian Skehan


Here is a useful Apple document giving steps to follow when your Mac 
does

not boot:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106464

For laptops that have problems relating to switching on, waking from 
sleep,
and not charging, reset the Power Management Unit (PMU). The PMU 
controls
waking and sleeping, hard disc spin, backlighting, charging, and such 
like.
It is an integrated circuit that runs a control program (micro-code) 
that

can crash. It sometimes needs to be rebooted itself.

Look here for Apple's documentation on resetting the PMU:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449



Re: Clicking Drive of Doom

2005-03-23 Thread Paul Kitchener

Wez wrote:

If it ever does work briefly start backing up onto anything cause the 
drive is still in  a very bad shape. 


The original IBM, now Hitachi, Desk(Death)Star failed in our G3 some 
time back.
Different symptoms though, no noises, just an inability to read or write 
with the drive and running very slowly.


We were in a tiz. We hadnt backed up (of course).
We could see everything on the drive, we just couldnt move anything.

Then I tried Toast.
Blow me down, it was able to write disks!!
20+ CDs later we were most thankful I can tell you.

The drive did in fact go on to make horrible clicks a little later in a 
spare PC.


If you ever wondered what folk mean when they talk about computing's 
Dark Side, need you look further than a DeathStar?


Cheers
Paul


Re: Clicking Drive of Doom

2005-03-23 Thread Wez
What is with IBM inability to make HD's i've heard so many stories 
about IBM drive failure its not funny.


So little recommendation... Stay away from Hitachi IBM drives :)


WEZ!


Re: Clicking Drive of Doom

2005-03-23 Thread Shay Telfer
What is with IBM inability to make HD's i've heard so many stories 
about IBM drive failure its not funny.


So little recommendation... Stay away from Hitachi IBM drives :)


Personally I've had no problems with them.

IBM/Hitachi make a lot of drives, they had a bad run of Deskstar 
drives, but that's what happens when you manufacture a lot of things 
and there's an unspotted fault in the process... (of course, the 
question is, why wasn't it spotted earlier?)


If it weren't for IBM's RD division it's likely that all hard drives 
would have smaller capacity.


The only drives I've had die recently were Maxtors.

Have fun,
Shay
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Re: Clicking Drive of Doom

2005-03-23 Thread James / Hans Kunz

interesting...
i'm still using that sort of drive for video applications,
i checked once the webpage for tech data, where it confirms a very high 
power consumption plus the drives are not made for 24/7 continious use, 
my drives are most of the time disconnected  run only for a few hours 
when i have to process the videos on it

James

On 23/03/2005, at 8:00, Paul Kitchener wrote:


Wez wrote:

If it ever does work briefly start backing up onto anything cause the 
drive is still in  a very bad shape.


The original IBM, now Hitachi, Desk(Death)Star failed in our G3 some 
time back.
Different symptoms though, no noises, just an inability to read or 
write with the drive and running very slowly.


We were in a tiz. We hadnt backed up (of course).
We could see everything on the drive, we just couldnt move anything.

Then I tried Toast.
Blow me down, it was able to write disks!!
20+ CDs later we were most thankful I can tell you.

The drive did in fact go on to make horrible clicks a little later in 
a spare PC.


If you ever wondered what folk mean when they talk about computing's 
Dark Side, need you look further than a DeathStar?


Cheers
Paul


SAD Technic
Bayswater WA 6053
+618 9370 5307, 0414 421 132
http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas



Re: Clicking Drive of Doom

2005-03-22 Thread Wez
That sounds like a head crash i'm afraid. Usually the final word in 
dead hard drives ;\ Had it happen three times to different external 
SCSI IBM drives before i decided to never touch IBM again.


I may be possible to hit the drive to get the heads mobile again 
though you are looking for a real professional to even think about 
that one. You will probably have to pay for data backup and some very 
high price (i had to just bin my drives when they crashed). Data 
recovery will probably have to remove the platters and use a deckstar 
controller to get the info off.


If it ever does work briefly start backing up onto anything cause the 
drive is still in  a very bad shape.


WEZ!

I've heard an old story of mac techies sitting down a Mac Classic 
with crashed heads on a swivel chair and spinning it very fast then 
stopping it abruptly to get the heads to move again. I think the 
comedy of that story was walking into a room with two techies learing 
over a mac classic on a swivel chair and spinning it like mad.. NOW 
YOU WILL TALK MURHAHAHHA


Clicking Drive of Doom

2005-03-21 Thread Callum Prior
I have a 120Gb Htiachi Deskstar hard drive (my main drive) that started 
making a terrible clicking sound then a clunk  last night.


I immediately shut down, thinking it might have been the heat and tried 
starting up later with no luck, just the clicking noise and failure to 
recognise the drive.  The machine just wouldn't start.


Now, I do have backups, but I'd really like to get hold of the stuff I 
was working on at the time this happened (I'm four weeks away from a 
national tour with the band and thus feverishly working away).


Anyone had any experience with this kind of thing?  Is it worth taking 
the drive into my local Apple Store / Apple repairer, or will I need to 
go to a data recovery company?


Any help or advice you can offer would me very much appreciated.

Cheers!

Callum Prior



Re: Clicking Drive of Doom

2005-03-21 Thread Rob Findlay
depends on whether the drive has had a mechanical failure or whether 
the directory is fragged. Sounds more like mechanical. I would put it n 
a firewire case and try to access it with something like Disk Warrior 
first and if it doesn't talk to that then Data Recovery X would be 
next. If it doesn't spin up at all then you are limited to paying data 
recovery experts big dollars to read the platters.
Anthony at Computer Trade Centre is not bad at stuff like this and will 
be able to tell you if it's dead or not.

HTH
Rob

On 21/03/2005, at 8:47 PM, Callum Prior wrote:

I have a 120Gb Htiachi Deskstar hard drive (my main drive) that 
started making a terrible clicking sound then a clunk  last night.


I immediately shut down, thinking it might have been the heat and 
tried starting up later with no luck, just the clicking noise and 
failure to recognise the drive.  The machine just wouldn't start.


Now, I do have backups, but I'd really like to get hold of the stuff I 
was working on at the time this happened (I'm four weeks away from a 
national tour with the band and thus feverishly working away).


Anyone had any experience with this kind of thing?  Is it worth taking 
the drive into my local Apple Store / Apple repairer, or will I need 
to go to a data recovery company?


Any help or advice you can offer would me very much appreciated.

Cheers!

Callum Prior


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