[wdvltalk] RE: CDOSYS email form adding attachment

2003-11-06 Thread darren
On Wednesday, November 5, 2003 at 21:52, jac - WDVL wrote:

jW you seem to understand what I'm trying to do but I find it hard to
jW believe that I'd have to get the file uploaded to the server  then in a
jW separate step - email it on to my client :o(

why??  you can't just rip the file off of the users machine as then you'd
be able to get at any file you knew the location of.  making use of the
file input type includes the file when the user submits the form.  then
have to parse this input, extract the file and all the other variables and
then send the email.

a good link on how to do this in pure script is at:

   http://www.asp101.com/articles/jacob/scriptupload.asp

if you can install components on the server then software artisans' fileup
is one of the better ones.

jW Definitely thought there would be a more direct way to doing this. But
jW I'm not saying you're wrong...Is that how all the recruitment sites out
jW there deal with their jobseekers adding their CV's to the job
jW applications?

all the job sites i've used (and that was quite a lot just a few months
ago) allow you to upload your cv which is then attached to any application
you make from the site.

i haven't seen any way of doing it the way you want to.

hth,

darren


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[wdvltalk] Re: Broadband in the UK

2003-11-06 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Jim,

 Does anyone in the UK have a recommendation
 for ADSL / Broadband. ideally I want to spend
 under £15 a month.

Wouldn't we all :-)

If you're happy with 128k you could look up Tiscali's new package, which I
believe is £15/month - I've no idea how reliable it is though.

ADSL-wise you could do a lot worse than Pipex's basic service which weighs
in at something like £25/month but is really reliable and gives you 512k.
Check out www.adslguide.org for more info on all the providers.

You might also want to consider cable - companies like Telewest probably do
quite reasonable deals on combined phone/TV/internet packages.

Cheers
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[wdvltalk] Bounty on Virus Makers

2003-11-06 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
From Today's Lockergnome IP Professional Newsletter

Microsoft Puts Bounty on Virus Authors' Heads

Microsoft will today announce two $250,000 rewards for information leading
to the arrest of the authors behind the infamous Sobig and Blaster worms.

The rewards will be announced in a joint press conference with the FBI, the
US Secret Service, Microsoft and Interpol scheduled for 10:00 EST (15:00
GMT) in Washington DC, today. The FBI's press release is here. [Marc
Erickson]


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[wdvltalk] Re: Bounty on Virus Makers

2003-11-06 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 14:20, Cheryl D. Wise wrote:
 Microsoft will today announce two $250,000 rewards for information leading
 to the arrest of the authors behind the infamous Sobig and Blaster worms.

Why not spend the money helping their development program write better
code? Prevention is often easier than trying to find a cure...

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[wdvltalk] RE: CDOSYS email form adding attachment

2003-11-06 Thread Furry, Tim
jac wrote:
  OK I'm gonna scream!!! this thing is driving me mad for the last 3
hours.

Stephen responded:
  It looks to me like you're missing a step.  This is all theory,
because I've never had reason to send an attachment in an automated
email, but...  I'm pretty sure all that the script will have access to
is what is on the server (or depending on your configuration, the local
network).  I believe you'll need to upload the document via a separate
script, then point your cdosys routine at the local copy of this
attachment, after which you could use fso to delete the file or just
archive it, whichever you desire.

Tim adds:
You might consider looking at ASPUpload (www.aspupload.com) - it's an
ASP component by Peter Persits that allows uploading files to either
memory or hard drive.  I've had good success uploading data and files to
memory and then storing them in a database without writing anything to
the drive...you could probably adapt that method to upload the
attachment from the user to memory and attach it directly to the CDO
email.  It has a fully-functioning trial period that lets you set it up
and test it before buying.  Only problem is that you'll have to install
it on the production server (some hosts already provide it).

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[wdvltalk] Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread michael ensor
Rita,

you can achieve what you want with a combination of divs and css I think,

make each block of text a link to a content  div nested within a container
div which can be either below the links or to one side.

your div css would be something like this:

div.abstract {height:  340px; width:100%; line-height:15px;
 overflow: hidden; background: #fff; }

the container div holds all the anchored divs which only display when the
link is activated.

note that they do not have to be absolutely positioned but must have a fixed
height which is equal or greater than the largest 'content' div

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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread Rita Crisafi
ugh, i'm confused. Could you give me a simple code example?

TIA

Rita,

you can achieve what you want with a combination of divs and css I think,

make each block of text a link to a content  div nested within a container
div which can be either below the links or to one side.
your div css would be something like this:

div.abstract {height:  340px; width:100%; line-height:15px;
 overflow: hidden; background: #fff; }
the container div holds all the anchored divs which only display when the
link is activated.
note that they do not have to be absolutely positioned but must have a fixed
height which is equal or greater than the largest 'content' div


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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread michael ensor
(a) http://www.wnc.quik.co.nz/edc/abtown/bandstand.shtml

(b) http://www.wnc.quik.co.nz/edc/festivals/index.shtml


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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread michael ensor
this might be a little simpler to see what I was getting athaven't
tested this particular mark up...

div style=display: block; 
a href=#question1Question One/a
a href=#question2Question Two/a
a href=#question3Question Three/a
a href=#question4Question Four/a
/div
div style=float right; height: 100px; overfow: hidden;
div style=height: 100px; overflow: hidden;
empty div or with background image?
/div
div style=height: 100px; overflow: hidden;
a name=question1/a
blah blah
/div
div style=height: 100px; overflow: hidden;
a name=question2/a
blah blah
/div
etc...
/div

should display the answers to the right of the 'menu' of questions.





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: ugh, i'm confused. Could you give me a simple code example?
:
: TIA
:
: Rita,
: 
: you can achieve what you want with a combination of divs and css I think,
: 
: make each block of text a link to a content  div nested within a
container
: div which can be either below the links or to one side.
: 
: your div css would be something like this:
: 
: div.abstract {height:  340px; width:100%; line-height:15px;
:   overflow: hidden; background: #fff; }
: 
: the container div holds all the anchored divs which only display when the
: link is activated.
: 
: note that they do not have to be absolutely positioned but must have a
fixed
: height which is equal or greater than the largest 'content' div
:
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[wdvltalk] Re: Bounty on Virus Makers

2003-11-06 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
That's okay, the bit about so secure you can't use it was at least partially
tongue in cheek as well. You could use it for a lot of things very nicely
out of the box but the lockdown on the web server was pretty tight. You
can't even run Windows Update without jumping through hoops to make it a
trusted site.

Part of my post was inspired because of Apple's callous attitude that you
should expect to upgrade annually at $130+ a pop if you want security holes
in their OS to be patched. Having spend $129 just a year ago to upgrade the
OS on my G4 I wasn't planning on doing the same this year since I don't do
that much on it other than test web sites.


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-Original Message-
From: michael ensor

Cheryl,

ok I was a bit tongue in cheek and you may recall I posted a link last month
which listed security flaws on a number of OS's (not just MS) but I do feel
that unless MS literally reinvent themselves they will be still be grappling
with trying to paper over and deal with embedded software engines that are
still inherently flawed ( from a security point of view).

having said that it is a bit like the question  how do I protect my html
source code lol

if you want to be secure NEVER turn on your computer...

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: Actually Windows 2003 is quite secure out of the box. In fact it is so
: secure that it isn't functional. I hand to unlock several things to IIS 6
: set-up the way I needed. By default it will not run any scripting, hello?


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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread purkers

Very cool!

It works in IE6, but not in Mozilla 1.5... any ideas on how to get it
working on something besides IE?

Thanks for sharing

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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread Rita Crisafi
sorry Rita, was in the middle of something else,
it would help when I give an example to make sure that it works, this does:


I was completely confounded because I wasn't able to get this to work 
in my browser, but then I think there's a compatiblity issue with IE 
5 browsers?

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[wdvltalk] Re: Bounty on Virus Makers

2003-11-06 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
My, my, you are having a bad day. Time for a nip down to the local pub? Call
it a day and start over tomorrow? 

As far a being protected by disclaimers if you cause a baddie to be
downloaded I have no idea. I always say no to anything people want me to
download to use their site. Comet trails, gator, kazaa, etc. are all the
spawn of the devil.

At least I made my husband be tech support for his father who has been
going round and round with the blaster worm. We got rid of it twice already
but he kept putting off downloading the patches because it would take too
long. Since he retired he's a night owl anyway. So why not do it while he's
playing solitaire at midnight, sigh.


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From: michael ensor

on a related topic, I habitually surf with prompts for activeX permissions (
I gave up on the cookies, I now wipe the baddies after each session )  and
am driven mad by the continual requests I get from many sites, including
windows but I suppose that everyone gets them now...but it does raise an
issue .

if you incorporate 'technology' into a web site which is known to be
insecure are you protected by the exclusions the end user had to agree to
when they downloaded the software, or should we incorporate similar
provisions into the tac's or is it a case of use at your own risk.

apart from having a very bad Friday...I have been bombarded today by emails,
from a broken and discontinued mailing list, which have been disclosing
peoples email addresses in clear breach of the local privacy laws just
an example of what can go wrong.

what if a web page gets hijacked and phishes people instead of just defacing
the page

(I told you I was having a bad daylol)


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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Which method? There have been several posted. 


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Very cool!

It works in IE6, but not in Mozilla 1.5... any ideas on how to get it
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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread michael ensor
well both the html and css validate, and when I first tested it worked cross
browser ( sigh) but on the IE issue, most problems with divs are caused by
its implementation of the box model and can be overcome by using a
'containing' div

incidentally it still looks ok in NN4 except that you end up with a long
page with all the divs displaying one after the other, but the anchors
should still take you to the right question.

re Mozilla, I 'know'  that there is a simple fix for this but it escapes me
at the moment..a quick flick through my code snippets hasn't found it -
time to visit the css_discuss wiki I think.

there are other ways to achieve the same effect but I was trying for the
simplest.
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: sorry Rita, was in the middle of something else,
: it would help when I give an example to make sure that it works, this
does:
:
:
: I was completely confounded because I wasn't able to get this to work
: in my browser, but then I think there's a compatiblity issue with IE
: 5 browsers?
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[wdvltalk] Re: Bounty on Virus Makers

2003-11-06 Thread michael ensor
what a good idea..
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: My, my, you are having a bad day. Time for a nip down to the local pub?
Call
: it a day and start over tomorrow?



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[wdvltalk] Re: Bounty on Virus Makers

2003-11-06 Thread Joseph Harris
Cheryl,

How can you possibly think of cutting in to midnight solitaire time.   It is
the meditation hour!

Joseph


 My, my, you are having a bad day. Time for a nip down to the local pub?
Call
 it a day and start over tomorrow?

 As far a being protected by disclaimers if you cause a baddie to be
 downloaded I have no idea. I always say no to anything people want me to
 download to use their site. Comet trails, gator, kazaa, etc. are all the
 spawn of the devil.

 At least I made my husband be tech support for his father who has been
 going round and round with the blaster worm. We got rid of it twice
already
 but he kept putting off downloading the patches because it would take too
 long. Since he retired he's a night owl anyway. So why not do it while
he's
 playing solitaire at midnight, sigh.


 Cheryl D. Wise
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 -Original Message-
 From: michael ensor

 on a related topic, I habitually surf with prompts for activeX permissions
(
 I gave up on the cookies, I now wipe the baddies after each session )  and
 am driven mad by the continual requests I get from many sites, including
 windows but I suppose that everyone gets them now...but it does raise an
 issue .

 if you incorporate 'technology' into a web site which is known to be
 insecure are you protected by the exclusions the end user had to agree to
 when they downloaded the software, or should we incorporate similar
 provisions into the tac's or is it a case of use at your own risk.

 apart from having a very bad Friday...I have been bombarded today by
emails,
 from a broken and discontinued mailing list, which have been disclosing
 peoples email addresses in clear breach of the local privacy laws just
 an example of what can go wrong.

 what if a web page gets hijacked and phishes people instead of just
defacing
 the page

 (I told you I was having a bad daylol)




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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread michael ensor
known issues which might affect mozilla

1. line height can ' break ' container div layouts

2. container within container can cause problems, see above

now I am taking Cheryl's advice...I will play with it in the
weekend...
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Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click


: well both the html and css validate, and when I first tested it worked
cross
: browser ( sigh) but on the IE issue, most problems with divs are caused by
: its implementation of the box model and can be overcome by using a
: 'containing' div
:
: incidentally it still looks ok in NN4 except that you end up with a long
: page with all the divs displaying one after the other, but the anchors
: should still take you to the right question.
:
: re Mozilla, I 'know'  that there is a simple fix for this but it escapes
me
: at the moment..a quick flick through my code snippets hasn't found
it -
: time to visit the css_discuss wiki I think.
:
: there are other ways to achieve the same effect but I was trying for the
: simplest.
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: : it would help when I give an example to make sure that it works, this
: does:
: :
: :
: : I was completely confounded because I wasn't able to get this to work
: : in my browser, but then I think there's a compatiblity issue with IE
: : 5 browsers?
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[wdvltalk] Re: Bounty on Virus Makers

2003-11-06 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
No, he's got a 2.4 GHz computer with 512mg ram. He can play solitaire to his
heart's content while downloading in the background. Only thing he ties up
is his telephone. Not too many people he knows want to chat after midnight. 

I just want him to get the danged patches installed so we quit getting these
My computer keeps shutting down whenever I try to get online. My
anti-virus quit working. My scanner doesn't show up (turned out to be
unplugged). Sigh!


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-Original Message-
From: Joseph Harris

Cheryl,

How can you possibly think of cutting in to midnight solitaire time.   It is
the meditation hour!

J


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[wdvltalk] Re: Visibility and on click

2003-11-06 Thread michael ensor
if I recollect what I did originally, the div should have a specific width
to be rendered correctly so here goes ( p.s. the display: block; should
not be critical ):

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
html
head
titledisplay answers/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
style type=text/css
div.menu
{
display: block;
float: left;
width: 100px;
}
div.container
{
display: block;
height : 15px;
overflow : hidden;
width 500px;
}
div.content
{
display: block;
height : 15px;
overflow : hidden;
width: 500px;
}

/style
/head
body
div class=menu
a href=#question1Question One/abr /
a href=#question2Question Two/abr /
a href=#question3Question Three/abr /
a href=#question4Question Four/a
/div
div class=container
empty div/with page background colour/ image
div class=content
a name=question1/a
blah blah
/div
div class=content
a name=question2/a
blah blah blah
/div
div class=content
a name=question3/a
blah blah blah blah
/div
div class=content
a name=question4/a
blah!
/div
/div
/body
/html

don't have mozilla 1.5 so can't test and too big a download for dial up on a
Friday afternnon.of course 'overflow' is CSS2 so ..


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:
: Very cool!
:
: It works in IE6, but not in Mozilla 1.5... any ideas on how to get it
: working on something besides IE?
:
: Thanks for sharing
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[wdvltalk] Re: now what about backward compatibility?

2003-11-06 Thread Abigail Marshall
On Thursday, November 6, 2003, 12:27:07 PM, Rita Crisafi commented:


RC AND...in a nutshell :-), what would I have to do if I was required to 
RC accomodate these old-browser users?

Rita, your page degrades well in lynx and Netscape 3. It
isn't pretty, but it's readable.

You've coded it well to allow it to degrade because you've
left everything in the order it should appear. An easy check
for you to do is to simply view the pages you create without
the style sheet to see what they look like. You will lose
lines and color, but as long as you don't start seeing
overlapping elements you have a site that probably can be
viewed well in earlier browsers.


RC But in the case of the document 
RC we've been looking at, wouldn't it make more sense to use a detect 
RC script and then actually point to different DOCUMENTS? where i could 
RC set up the page in tables?

Yes, that fine for a SMALL site, but a lot of work for a
large site or one where you expect to keep on adding
content. It's better to simply assume that anyone who is
using older generation browsers is going to be focused on
content, not beauty, and simply make sure that the site is
readable  navigable.

I recently revamped my 150 page + site to use CSS, and I did
use browser-sniffing SSI code to pull up many of the older
HTML 3 generation elements, so if you go to the site with an
older browser you see the old site as well, but I have
mixed feelings about it. I don't think I would bother with a
new site.

RC FINALLY, Does anyone have good clean browser detect javascript code 
RC to show me, I've looked around the net and I don't know enough about 
RC JS to tell if the code is good or junky.

If you use javascript for browser detect, some older
browsers will choke on the javascript - and of course it
won't work for anyone who has turned off javascript on their
browsers.  There are some cleaner, non-browser detecting
hacks you can use because of differing properties of
different generations of browsers. For example, I don't
believe that Netscape 4 recognizes the @import protocol for
importing a style sheet, so you can set a very simple
stylesheet for the site using the link rel=stylesheet
convention, with the more complicated style sheet called up via
@import.

If you Google for stylesheet hacks or browser
compatibility hacks you will find information on various
approaches.  There are mixed feelings on this -- CSS purists
don't like hacks, because you are purposely creating
nonstandard code to exploit the holes in non-CSS compliant
browsers.  There is no one way to do it - so you won't find
an easy or consistent tutorial. But, especially for a site
with a relatively simple layout, it can be a quick way
to resolve stylistic conflicts.

-Abigail





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