Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
really i thought the default was just tomcat. But you can hang others in it.johanOn 10/7/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is.Erm. AFAIK, Jetty has been the default servlet container for JBoss for ages. :)Eelco- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of ITJoin SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share youropinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
I guess it depends on what you're doing, but while I do have other levels of testing, i.e. local WebLogic on WinXP remote WebLogic on Solaris, I've yet to come across anything that differs between Jetty WebLogic during my development use. While I'd certainly advocate final testing on the target platform, my experience is that since Java 2 or so, developing under one platform and deploying into another is a viable and realistic scenario. Obviously, this excludes any JNI work, but most server-side work should be fine. /Gwyn On 06/10/06, cowwoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uh :) I understand he mentioned he's having issues with JBOSS but baring that I would agree with him that developing under one platform and deploying into another is asking for trouble. Jetty can't possibly behave 100% like your target platform. I personally use Netbeans with Tomcat or Glassfish. It integrates quite nice (auto reloads and all). Gili Gwyn Evans wrote: Dude, you'd have been better to stop at I'm not here to get into an argument. The point that you missed is that Wicket can normally be developed very well using Jetty on my laptop as the most convienient way of running the web-app, then deployed onto whatever production appserver is required - personally, I deploy to a WebLogic system on Solaris. /Gwyn On 06/10/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, I'm not here to get into an argument here, but you obviously haven't worked in many corporate settings, you don't always get to pick and choose which app servers you are using. Jetty is NOT an option for us. As for the redeployment, that is a fine idea, however with the size of our application redeploying is extremely slow, way worse then compiling to the WEB-INF/classes dir and bouncing the container. igor.vaynberg wrote: mainstream enough to attract developers that are smart enough to figure out that the path of least resistence is to develop on jetty and deploy on jboss :) if you need app server features like ejb then the solution is not to restart the server, but to force it to redeploy your app. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys.
Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
At our company we develop on both jetty and tomcat. Our current deployment server is tomcat or resin, though we are looking at using resin for clustering. We find it healthy when we can be sure that our application will work in several containers as that gives us a lot of options in production. So jetty, tomcat, resin, glassfish, jboss, etc. are all possibilities for us if the need arises. This doesn't mean that it will actually *run* on those platforms, but we are confident we will be able to switch within a day or two when the need arises. Martijn On 10/7/06, Gwyn Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it depends on what you're doing, but while I do have other levels of testing, i.e. local WebLogic on WinXP remote WebLogic on Solaris, I've yet to come across anything that differs between Jetty WebLogic during my development use. While I'd certainly advocate final testing on the target platform, my experience is that since Java 2 or so, developing under one platform and deploying into another is a viable and realistic scenario. Obviously, this excludes any JNI work, but most server-side work should be fine. /Gwyn On 06/10/06, cowwoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uh :) I understand he mentioned he's having issues with JBOSS but baring that I would agree with him that developing under one platform and deploying into another is asking for trouble. Jetty can't possibly behave 100% like your target platform. I personally use Netbeans with Tomcat or Glassfish. It integrates quite nice (auto reloads and all). Gili Gwyn Evans wrote: Dude, you'd have been better to stop at I'm not here to get into an argument. The point that you missed is that Wicket can normally be developed very well using Jetty on my laptop as the most convienient way of running the web-app, then deployed onto whatever production appserver is required - personally, I deploy to a WebLogic system on Solaris. /Gwyn On 06/10/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, I'm not here to get into an argument here, but you obviously haven't worked in many corporate settings, you don't always get to pick and choose which app servers you are using. Jetty is NOT an option for us. As for the redeployment, that is a fine idea, however with the size of our application redeploying is extremely slow, way worse then compiling to the WEB-INF/classes dir and bouncing the container. igor.vaynberg wrote: mainstream enough to attract developers that are smart enough to figure out that the path of least resistence is to develop on jetty and deploy on jboss :) if you need app server features like ejb then the solution is not to restart the server, but to force it to redeploy your app. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context:
Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
Oh btw. I develop on OS-X, my co-workers on both linux and Win-XP and we deploy on linux. I also test the application in Safari and firefox, my coworkers do the IE thing and firefox. This way we ensure our application doesn't run off and stops working completely in one of the major browsers. One of my coworkers even tests the application on his Nokia 770 which is opera based iirc. Martijn On 10/7/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At our company we develop on both jetty and tomcat. Our current deployment server is tomcat or resin, though we are looking at using resin for clustering. We find it healthy when we can be sure that our application will work in several containers as that gives us a lot of options in production. So jetty, tomcat, resin, glassfish, jboss, etc. are all possibilities for us if the need arises. This doesn't mean that it will actually *run* on those platforms, but we are confident we will be able to switch within a day or two when the need arises. Martijn On 10/7/06, Gwyn Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it depends on what you're doing, but while I do have other levels of testing, i.e. local WebLogic on WinXP remote WebLogic on Solaris, I've yet to come across anything that differs between Jetty WebLogic during my development use. While I'd certainly advocate final testing on the target platform, my experience is that since Java 2 or so, developing under one platform and deploying into another is a viable and realistic scenario. Obviously, this excludes any JNI work, but most server-side work should be fine. /Gwyn On 06/10/06, cowwoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uh :) I understand he mentioned he's having issues with JBOSS but baring that I would agree with him that developing under one platform and deploying into another is asking for trouble. Jetty can't possibly behave 100% like your target platform. I personally use Netbeans with Tomcat or Glassfish. It integrates quite nice (auto reloads and all). Gili Gwyn Evans wrote: Dude, you'd have been better to stop at I'm not here to get into an argument. The point that you missed is that Wicket can normally be developed very well using Jetty on my laptop as the most convienient way of running the web-app, then deployed onto whatever production appserver is required - personally, I deploy to a WebLogic system on Solaris. /Gwyn On 06/10/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, I'm not here to get into an argument here, but you obviously haven't worked in many corporate settings, you don't always get to pick and choose which app servers you are using. Jetty is NOT an option for us. As for the redeployment, that is a fine idea, however with the size of our application redeploying is extremely slow, way worse then compiling to the WEB-INF/classes dir and bouncing the container. igor.vaynberg wrote: mainstream enough to attract developers that are smart enough to figure out that the path of least resistence is to develop on jetty and deploy on jboss :) if you need app server features like ejb then the solution is not to restart the server, but to force it to redeploy your app. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/
Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
That sounds nice. I always redeployed the complete ear. You had to restart JBoss after every 2 to 3 deployments because of the memory problem. I found it a very annoying process. In my current project I am very happy to work with Jetty. We will deploy and test on WebLogic though. I am not afraid of large differences as we will not use EJBs in this project. We will use a bit of JNI, but because of Spring, that will just be a configuration issue. Erik. Aaron Hiniker schreef: I use jboss for development. You can set your web app as exploded and have the jvm do class hotswapping via your IDE.Also, you can explode your .ear file and redeploy individual modules (war, ejb3 and par modules for example) independently of each other, meaning you don't have to redeploy your whole app.You should never have to restart the actual JBoss server unless you run out of PermGen space (which will happen after you redeploy hundreds of times).. On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 11:21 -0700, craigdd wrote: Again, sorry for this post to be a little off topic, however, this question has come up because as I'm evaluating wicket I've found that I'm restarted my container way too much while doing some simple web development. I thought maybe that people in this forum have had the same issue and found some slick ways around it. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. Erm. AFAIK, Jetty has been the default servlet container for JBoss for ages. :) Eelco - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? We typically work with tomcat/jetty directly (tomcat sysdeo or jetty launcher plugin) Martijn On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using jboss 4.0.4, does anyone know how to configure it to reload changed classes? I want to be able to change my Wicket WebPage subclasses without having to restart the container. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6672270 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- a href=http://www.thebeststuffintheworld.com/vote_for/wicket;Vote/a for a href=http://www.thebeststuffintheworld.com/stuff/wicket;Wicket/a at the a href=http://www.thebeststuffintheworld.com/;Best Stuff in the World!/a - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? We typically work with tomcat/jetty directly (tomcat sysdeo or jetty launcher plugin) Martijn On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using jboss 4.0.4, does anyone know how to configure it to reload changed classes? I want to be able to change my Wicket WebPage subclasses without having to restart the container. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6672270 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- http://www.thebeststuffintheworld.com/vote_for/wicket Vote for http://www.thebeststuffintheworld.com/stuff/wicket Wicket at the http://www.thebeststuffintheworld.com/ Best Stuff in the World! - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6678468 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap.-IgorOn 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container.Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards,Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net 's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user--View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.-Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of ITJoin SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cashhttp://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6684139 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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mainstream enough to attract developers that are smart enough to figure out that the path of least resistence is to develop on jetty and deploy on jboss :)if you need app server features like ejb then the solution is not to restart the server, but to force it to redeploy your app. -IgorOn 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot ofpeople that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured outthis issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicketwhich makes me wonder how main stream this framework is.igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6684139Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.-Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of ITJoin SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cashhttp://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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There is nothing lacking in JBoss here, the guy just doesn't know what he is doing and doesn't know (or care) about the appropriate venues for this type of question. I use JBoss and Eclipse with MyEclipse in development and it is very slick.
Perhaps people are not answering his question because it is off topic and that annoys people?On 10/6/06, Thomas R. Corbin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Friday, 06 October 2006 12:51 pm, craigdd escreveu:
Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development.
I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is.I user jetty for development, but tomcat for deployment.
Dunno about anyone else.Make me wonder how jboss could be mainstream w/o supporting this feature! :) igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss
can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not
be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode?
Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i
believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you
_can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards,
Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/
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Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
Again, sorry for this post to be a little off topic, however, this question has come up because as I'm evaluating wicket I've found that I'm restarted my container way too much while doing some simple web development. I thought maybe that people in this forum have had the same issue and found some slick ways around it. Michael Hosier wrote: There is nothing lacking in JBoss here, the guy just doesn't know what he is doing and doesn't know (or care) about the appropriate venues for this type of question. I use JBoss and Eclipse with MyEclipse in development and it is very slick. Perhaps people are not answering his question because it is off topic and that annoys people? On 10/6/06, Thomas R. Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, 06 October 2006 12:51 pm, craigdd escreveu: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. I user jetty for development, but tomcat for deployment. Dunno about anyone else. Make me wonder how jboss could be mainstream w/o supporting this feature! :) igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDE V ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDE V ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay
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Dude, you'd have been better to stop at I'm not here to get into an argument. The point that you missed is that Wicket can normally be developed very well using Jetty on my laptop as the most convienient way of running the web-app, then deployed onto whatever production appserver is required - personally, I deploy to a WebLogic system on Solaris. /Gwyn On 06/10/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, I'm not here to get into an argument here, but you obviously haven't worked in many corporate settings, you don't always get to pick and choose which app servers you are using. Jetty is NOT an option for us. As for the redeployment, that is a fine idea, however with the size of our application redeploying is extremely slow, way worse then compiling to the WEB-INF/classes dir and bouncing the container. igor.vaynberg wrote: mainstream enough to attract developers that are smart enough to figure out that the path of least resistence is to develop on jetty and deploy on jboss :) if you need app server features like ejb then the solution is not to restart the server, but to force it to redeploy your app. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6684139 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business
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wow, i mean ... where can you go from here?-IgorOn 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, I'm not here to get into an argument here, but you obviously haven'tworked in many corporate settings, you don't always get to pick and choose which app servers you are using.Jetty is NOT an option for us.As for the redeployment, that is a fine idea, however with the size of ourapplication redeploying is extremely slow, way worse then compiling to the WEB-INF/classes dir and bouncing the container.igor.vaynberg wrote: mainstream enough to attract developers that are smart enough to figure out that the path of least resistence is to develop on jetty and deploy on jboss :) if you need app server features like ejb then the solution is not to restart the server, but to force it to redeploy your app. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -IgorOn 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6684139 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
uh :) I understand he mentioned he's having issues with JBOSS but baring that I would agree with him that developing under one platform and deploying into another is asking for trouble. Jetty can't possibly behave 100% like your target platform. I personally use Netbeans with Tomcat or Glassfish. It integrates quite nice (auto reloads and all). Gili Gwyn Evans wrote: Dude, you'd have been better to stop at I'm not here to get into an argument. The point that you missed is that Wicket can normally be developed very well using Jetty on my laptop as the most convienient way of running the web-app, then deployed onto whatever production appserver is required - personally, I deploy to a WebLogic system on Solaris. /Gwyn On 06/10/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, I'm not here to get into an argument here, but you obviously haven't worked in many corporate settings, you don't always get to pick and choose which app servers you are using. Jetty is NOT an option for us. As for the redeployment, that is a fine idea, however with the size of our application redeploying is extremely slow, way worse then compiling to the WEB-INF/classes dir and bouncing the container. igor.vaynberg wrote: mainstream enough to attract developers that are smart enough to figure out that the path of least resistence is to develop on jetty and deploy on jboss :) if you need app server features like ejb then the solution is not to restart the server, but to force it to redeploy your app. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6684139 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the
Re: [Wicket-user] JBOSS Reload Classes
I use jboss for development. You can set your web app as exploded and have the jvm do class hotswapping via your IDE. This only works for certain changes as everyone knows you can't hotswap class schema changes, method signature changes, etc. Also, you can explode your .ear file and redeploy individual modules (war, ejb3 and par modules for example) independently of each other, meaning you don't have to redeploy your whole app, only a single part (and any parts that depend on it, otherwise you'll get classloader errors). My current webapp is fairly large and it only takes jboss about 3 seconds to redeploy the .war. I set the .war up as an exploded dir and IDEA will recompile my classes and touch the web.xml file (which will trigger jboss to redeploy). My EJB3 modules take about 30 seconds to deploy so it helps that I don't have to redeploy the EJB3 for iterative changes to the .war code. It seems to work nicely. You should never have to restart the actual JBoss server unless you run out of PermGen space (which will happen after you redeploy hundreds of times). One thing I've thought about is playing with JDK 1.6 and see how on-the-fly scripting could be used for wicket components. Aaron On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 11:21 -0700, craigdd wrote: Again, sorry for this post to be a little off topic, however, this question has come up because as I'm evaluating wicket I've found that I'm restarted my container way too much while doing some simple web development. I thought maybe that people in this forum have had the same issue and found some slick ways around it. Michael Hosier wrote: There is nothing lacking in JBoss here, the guy just doesn't know what he is doing and doesn't know (or care) about the appropriate venues for this type of question. I use JBoss and Eclipse with MyEclipse in development and it is very slick. Perhaps people are not answering his question because it is off topic and that annoys people? On 10/6/06, Thomas R. Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, 06 October 2006 12:51 pm, craigdd escreveu: Yes, my next step is to check the jboss forums, I sort of figured a lot of people that where using wicket might also be using jboss and had figured out this issue because it greatly affects the efficiency of development. I'm getting the impression that most people are using jetty with wicket which makes me wonder how main stream this framework is. I user jetty for development, but tomcat for deployment. Dunno about anyone else. Make me wonder how jboss could be mainstream w/o supporting this feature! :) igor.vaynberg wrote: why not ask on the jboss forums? what you want to ask is that if jboss can be launched to take advantage of jvm's hotswap. -Igor On 10/6/06, craigdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in other words the out come to my question is that NO, jboss can not be configured to reloaded changed classes without restarting the container. Erik van Oosten wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: Doesn't JBoss IDE start the jboss container in debug mode? Indeed, it does start jboss in debug mode. craigdd wrote: I don't think debug mode in jboss allows the reloading of classes, i believe it it just for remote debugging. Indeed again, JBoss is directly started from Eclipse (as all programs you start from Eclipse). Strictly there is no class reloading, but you _can_ change classes on the fly. Just remember that when you restart JBoss, you must recompile and redeploy your changed classes. Regards, Erik. -- Erik van Oosten http://day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDE V ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JBOSS-Reload-Classes-tf2393072.html#a6683715 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDE V ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
