[Wikimedia-l] Board appointments July 2012

[Bishakha Datta]

Greetings, all.

And apologies. This resolution approving the Wikimedia Chapters' selections
to the Board of Trustees was unanimously approved, in-person, on July 11,
2012.

It took much longer to publish than it should have due to a procedural
issue.

It has finally been published at:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_appointments_July_2012

Best
Bishakha
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[Asaf Bartov]

Hi, Anirudh.

Thanks for the welcoming note.  As others have noted, we have not required
all members to identify to the Foundation, and those that are identified
are so in other capacities.  As Katie and Nemo pointed out, GAC work is all
done in the open on Meta, and no personal information or actual money is
involved, so it is not felt necessary to require identification.

Furthermore, it is hoped that the open nomination process gave ample time
to express concerns, publicly or privately.

So we take the wiki way, which is to trust people in their chosen
identities to the extent practical and permissible by law.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Anirudh Bhati  wrote:

> Hi Asaf,
>
> Thank you for posting this and a grand welcome to all the new arrivals in
> the GAC. ;)
>
> I see that some of the folks have chosen to remain anonymous (many of whom
> I identify as prolific contributors to our projects) but I would like to
> know whether the Wikimedia Foundation has independently verified their
> identity prior to induction into the body?
>
> I understand that the body plays only an advisory role into the process
> with the final decision resting on the staff, however, the GAC voice
> carries a fair amount of weight as well (as far as I'm aware).  Therefore,
> I believe, it would serve the interest of all the stakeholders, specially
> the community, to know and be assured that the WMF has already taken steps
> to identify those who would be responsible for advising the WMF on the
> dissemination of funds to grant applications from individuals and chapters
> (non-FDC).
>
> My personal opinion is that though anonymity is great motivator for our
> volunteer contributors on projects, but at the same time it can lead to
> reduced accountability and moral responsibility for work that has direct
> implications in the real world.  I apologize in advance if I have made any
> mistake in fact, and would be happy to hear any differing views on the
> subject.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Anirudh Bhati
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
> > Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30
> volunteers,
> > following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
> > list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
> > higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation
> of
> > grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
> > diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
> > proposals for best impact.
> >
> > The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly
> doing
> > what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
> > have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a
> little
> > now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
> > grant proposals they would be called upon to review.
> >
> > Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
> > fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
> > grants program.
> >
> >Asaf
> >
> > [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
> > [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
> > [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
> > --
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> > Wikimedia Foundation 
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject: IRC office hours to discuss FDC eligibility criteria and next steps

[John Vandenberg]

Hi Michael and everyone,

I added the IRC office hours on meta, and made the mistake.  Sorry
about this.  Thanks to the WMF for holding two office hours so
Australians can attend.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Michael Jahn  wrote:
> Just about to put this information on WMDE's blog, but I'm confused about
> the timing:
>
> 16:00 UTC and 23.00 UTC are given as starting times in the below email
> (which is 9 PDT and 16 PDT). But on Meta it reads 9 _UTC_ and 16 _UTC_,
> respectively:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours
>
> Clarification would be much appreciated!
>
> Best,
> Michael
>
>
> 2012/7/21 Garfield Byrd 
>
>> Dear Wikimedia Community,
>>
>> As you may have seen, last week the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
>> passed a resolution to establish the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
>> [1].
>> Full details about the planned structure and processes of the FDC can be
>> found in the framework proposed to the Board [2]. This framework was
>> developed over the past few months with input from a variety of people
>> across the movement.
>>
>> We will be holding two sets of *IRC office hours* on *Wednesday 25 July*,
>> to answer any questions community members may have about the FDC process;
>> in particular the first step of establishing the eligibility to apply to
>> the FDC. Office hours will be held:
>>
>> · 16:00-17:00 UTC/09:00 PDT Wednesday, July 25th
>>
>> · 23:00-23:59 UTC/16:00 PDT Wednesday, July 25th
>>
>> On *Monday 23 July 2012*, the Foundation will publish a list of eligible
>> entities based on the eligibility criteria established in the framework
>> [3].
>> Please let me know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to
>> this list. Entities who are interested in applying for funds through the
>> FDC but are ineligible due to compliance issues should work with the
>> Foundation to develop a plan to correct compliance issues.
>>
>> Entities who are ineligible for other reasons - or who would prefer not to
>> go through the FDC process in this round -may seek funding through the
>> Wikimedia Foundation Grants Program.
>>
>> I will be sending out a more detailed email on Monday to inform you of this
>> list and next steps in the process. I look forward to speaking with you on
>> Wednesday.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Garfield Byrd
>>
>> (WMF Chief of Finance and Administration)
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Funds_Dissemination_Committee_framework_and_initial_operation
>>
>> [2]
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Draft_FDC_Proposal_for_the_Board
>>
>> [3]
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Sample_letter_of_intent_and_eligibility_checklist
>>
>>
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>> www.wikimediafoundation.org
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[Wikimedia-l] Protest against ACTA/Mexico in Spanish Wikinews

[Juergen Fenn]

FYI: Spanish Wikinews today bears a site notice in protest against the
Mexican government signing the ACTA agreement. It says: The internet
must remain free. The Freedom of the internet is in peril."

The Spanish Wikinews community has issued a press release on the matter:

https://es.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinoticias:Comunicado_de_prensa_acerca_de_la_firma_de_ACTA_en_México

I think we should express our solidarity with Spanish Wikinews editors.

Regards,
Jürgen.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ratiopol

[Nathan]

The project is empty. It's recent changes feed shows no edits (not sure how
that is even possible). All the links on the front page are redlinks. The
point of the project is stated as influencing the decisions of politicians.

I suspect few will dispute the conclusion that Ratiopol is not ripe for any
sort of affiliation.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> For your information, I have made a proposal for a project to be adopted
> by the Wikimedia Fundation. It is called Ratiopol, and it's about politics,
> if you want more informations, you can go here :
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Ratiopol
> Feel free to contact me.
>
>
> Regards,
> Bretwa
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Keegan Peterzell]

~ Keegan
Sent mobile
On Jul 24, 2012 2:50 PM, "Amir E. Aharoni" 
wrote:
>
> Most of all, I'm still curious about the reasons that the IOC (or
> whoever is in charge) provided for the refusals.
>
>

In the immortal words of Steve Martin in The Jerk, "It's a profit deal!
That really takes the pressure off."

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Amir E. Aharoni]

2012/7/24 Lodewijk :
> Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue?
> Considering that this will be a returning issue every two years, I guess
> that would be worth the trouble...

Generally, I think that it would be a good idea. I'm just not very
comfortable with the fact that I'm not so good myself at political and
commercial strategies and that I expect other people to actually do
the lobbying, but as far as ideological campaigns go, it seems that
this one is quite right for Wikimedia.

Maybe it doesn't even have to be confrontational ("the IOC is evil")
or preachy ("all information must be free"). Maybe somebody who is an
experienced researcher in social and commercial media can simply
convince the IOC that releasing some photos or giving Wikimedians a
permission to take photos and to publish them under a free license is
beneficial to the IOC itself. Maybe I'm just fantasizing.

Most of all, I'm still curious about the reasons that the IOC (or
whoever is in charge) provided for the refusals.

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[Wikimedia-l] Ratiopol

[bretwa]

Hello,


For your information, I have made a proposal for a project to be 
adopted by the Wikimedia Fundation. It is called Ratiopol, and it's 
about politics, if you want more informations, you can go here : 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ratiopol

Feel free to contact me.


Regards,
Bretwa


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Lodewijk]

Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue?
Considering that this will be a returning issue every two years, I guess
that would be worth the trouble...

Lodewijk

2012/7/24 Tomasz Ganicz 

> 2012/7/24 Cristian Consonni :
> > 2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni :
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
> >> cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
> >> and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.
> >>
> >> Practically everything that happens at the Olympics is notable and
> >> should be on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. Does anybody know whether there
> >> are professional accredited photographers who are Wikimedia-friendly
> >> and plan to upload their photos? If there aren't any, does anybody
> >> know whether a Wikipedian can obtain such accreditation?
> >>
> >> This doesn't concern me directly, but there are many, many people who
> >> write Wikipedia articles about sports in all languages and it may be
> >> interesting to them. Also, it may be a frequent issue in sports and
> >> I'm just not aware of it because I rarely follow sports.
> >>
> >> Sources for the restrictions:
> >> * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
> >> * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited
> >
> > I think this another layer of problems besides copyright, with
> > CC-BY-SA the author grants permission to reuse the photo also for
> > commercial purposes without requesting permission to the author. But
> > there are many other layers of rights which could interfere with the
> > free (or better the "anarchic") reuse of a photo. For example I think
> > that using an image of Usain Bolt to promote a book without explicit
> > permission from the athlete (or his agent) is anyhow unlawful even if
> > the photo was taken, for example, in the street and freely licensed.
> > That said I think with can treat photo from the Olympics in a similar
> > way as we do for photos with "personality rights", we could put a
> > template saying "Olympics photo warning: to reuse for commercial
> > purposes this photo you should obtain permission from IOC and/or
> > individuals depicted in the photo".
> > The point is that the author of the photo allows for it the widest
> > possible reuse permitted by CC-BY-SA, thus sharing part of its
> > copyright with others,  but if one wants to use the photo for
> > commercial purposes that he should go (himself, not the author)
> > through the hassle of obtaining permission from the relevant subjects.
> >
> > Could it work?
> >
>
> No. CC-BY-SA clearly allows for commercial use of works, and there is
> also clause that the licence cannot be accompanied by extra
> restrictions which are not compatible with the licence.  However,
> CC-BY-SA is only copyrights licence, so all other legal restrictionz
> are still in power. For example: using someone's face in big-scale
> commercial or political campaign may be treated as a infringement of
> personal rights, even if the face is taken from CC-BY-SA picture...
>
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] FDC Eligibility Status

[J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov]

Forwarding per request.

Alex

 -- Forwarded message --
From: Melanie Brown 
To: foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: Garfield Byrd , Anasuya Sengupta <
asengu...@wikimedia.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:04:27 -0700
Subject: FDC Eligibility Status

Dear Wikimedia Community,
>
> As you may know, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees passed a
> resolution two weeks ago, to establish the Funds Dissemination Committee
> (FDC) [1]. Full details about the planned structure and processes of the
> FDC can be found in the framework proposed to the Board [2].  This
> framework was developed over the past few months with input from a variety
> of people across the movement.
>
> It is now time to set this plan in motion.  There are a couple of next
> steps we want you to be aware of:
> 1.Establishing the first Funds Dissemination Committee:  If you are
> interested in nominating yourself to serve either as an FDC member or as
> the FDC Ombudsperson, please submit your nomination by August 15th. The
> Board will appoint the first members by the beginning of September [3].
>
> 2.Identifying eligible entities: Today, the Foundation has published
> a list of eligible entities [4] based on the eligibility criteria
> established in the framework [5]. Please let us know if you believe there
> are any corrections to be made to this list. Entities are categorised into
> ‘Yes’, ‘Yes, If’ and ‘No’ categories based on the eligibility criteria.
> Entities who are interested in applying for funds through the FDC but are
> ineligible due to compliance issues (i.e. those who fall into the ‘Yes, If’
> category detailed in the list above) should work with the Foundation to
> develop a plan to correct compliance issues.
>
> Entities who are ineligible for other reasons - or who would prefer not to
> go through the FDC process in this round - may seek funding through the
> Wikimedia Foundation Grants Program[6].
>
> 3.Beginning the applications process for the first round of funding:  The
> first round of applications for funding will be due October 1st. FDC proposal
> forms will be posted on the FDC portal (a hub for FDC related information
> that is currently being set up) on Meta by August 1st. We strongly
> encourage eligible entities to begin filling out the proposals to the FDC
> well in advance of the October 1st deadline, particularly to support time
> for translation, if necessary, and to answer any questions or
> clarifications.
>
> I would appreciate entities who are interested in applying for the
> upcoming round of funding, emailing me as soon as possible stating your
> interest. In addition, do let me know if you have any questions,
> clarifications or concerns about meeting the eligibility gap. This will
> help us best support you.
>
> Additionally, as I mentioned in my message on Friday, we will be holding
> two sets of IRC office hours  on Wednesday 25 July. I will be present,
> with Barry, Anasuya (our new Director of Global Learning and Grantmaking)
> and Asaf, to answer any questions you have about the FDC process and the
> steps outlined here; in particular, the first step of establishing the
> eligibility to apply to the FDC. Office hours will be held:
> · 16:00-17:00 UTC/09:00 PDT Wednesday, July 25th
> · 23:00-23:59 UTC/16:00 PDT Wednesday, July 25th
>
> Please join us during these times at
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
>
> We are excited to get this process launched and want to send a huge thank
> you to all of you who were involved in getting it kicked off!
>
> All the best,
> Garfield Byrd, WMF Chief of Finance and Administration
>
> [1]
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Funds_Dissemination_Committee_framework_and_initial_operation
> [2] 
> 
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC
> [3]
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Call_for_Volunteers
> [4]
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/2012_Round_1_Eligibility_Status
> [5]
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Sample_letter_of_intent_and_eligibility_checklist
> [5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Tomasz Ganicz]

2012/7/24 Cristian Consonni :
> 2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni :
>> Hi,
>>
>> The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
>> cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
>> and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.
>>
>> Practically everything that happens at the Olympics is notable and
>> should be on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. Does anybody know whether there
>> are professional accredited photographers who are Wikimedia-friendly
>> and plan to upload their photos? If there aren't any, does anybody
>> know whether a Wikipedian can obtain such accreditation?
>>
>> This doesn't concern me directly, but there are many, many people who
>> write Wikipedia articles about sports in all languages and it may be
>> interesting to them. Also, it may be a frequent issue in sports and
>> I'm just not aware of it because I rarely follow sports.
>>
>> Sources for the restrictions:
>> * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
>> * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited
>
> I think this another layer of problems besides copyright, with
> CC-BY-SA the author grants permission to reuse the photo also for
> commercial purposes without requesting permission to the author. But
> there are many other layers of rights which could interfere with the
> free (or better the "anarchic") reuse of a photo. For example I think
> that using an image of Usain Bolt to promote a book without explicit
> permission from the athlete (or his agent) is anyhow unlawful even if
> the photo was taken, for example, in the street and freely licensed.
> That said I think with can treat photo from the Olympics in a similar
> way as we do for photos with "personality rights", we could put a
> template saying "Olympics photo warning: to reuse for commercial
> purposes this photo you should obtain permission from IOC and/or
> individuals depicted in the photo".
> The point is that the author of the photo allows for it the widest
> possible reuse permitted by CC-BY-SA, thus sharing part of its
> copyright with others,  but if one wants to use the photo for
> commercial purposes that he should go (himself, not the author)
> through the hassle of obtaining permission from the relevant subjects.
>
> Could it work?
>

No. CC-BY-SA clearly allows for commercial use of works, and there is
also clause that the licence cannot be accompanied by extra
restrictions which are not compatible with the licence.  However,
CC-BY-SA is only copyrights licence, so all other legal restrictionz
are still in power. For example: using someone's face in big-scale
commercial or political campaign may be treated as a infringement of
personal rights, even if the face is taken from CC-BY-SA picture...



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Geolocalization improvement proposal

[Birgitte_sb]

On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Cristian Consonni  wrote:

> 2012/7/24  :
>> [...] So I definitely believe what it.WM wants to do, to connect people with 
>> local events, has real value. And that it has value for the individual 
>> people just as much as for it.WM.
> 
> strong +1.
> 
>> The main question is whether the benefit from being able to connect people 
>> with local events is worth the risk of collecting more personalized of their 
>> data than we are accustomed to handling.
> 
> I could be wrong but I don't think we would "handle more data" than
> what we are doing now. We are not going to use that data and as far as
> I know that data "dies" in the moment the system has output the
> message.

Maybe this is the area that needs more study. And I am probably the wrong 
person to try and even formulate technical questions, but is there a way to 
make use of this data without storing it? Without even knowing who recieved 
what personalized messages, unless, of course,they choose to respond?  There is 
still the "creep" factor, in that readers of the messages will not necessarily 
know that it was all handled blindly. However it should technically preserve 
the reader's privacy, if no person nor computer can recall what messages any 
person was presented with. And if an FAQ is well-linked, anyone who under the 
misperception that it was handled invasively can learn how serious we are about 
the subject.

If such a thing is even possible I suppoose it becomes a sort of philosophical 
question. If no one nor computer can know whether or not you recieved a 
personally targeted message is the targeting invasive of your privacy?

Birgitte SB
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Geolocalization improvement proposal

[Cristian Consonni]

2012/7/24  :
> [...] So I definitely believe what it.WM wants to do, to connect people with 
> local events, has real value. And that it has value for the individual people 
> just as much as for it.WM.

strong +1.

> The main question is whether the benefit from being able to connect people 
> with local events is worth the risk of collecting more personalized of their 
> data than we are accustomed to handling.

I could be wrong but I don't think we would "handle more data" than
what we are doing now. We are not going to use that data and as far as
I know that data "dies" in the moment the system has output the
message.

>  Maybe the benefit does win out for many people in Italy (I don't really 
> understand enough about what degree of improvement you are anticipating to 
> have a firm opinion). But it is certainly not worth the risk for people in 
> areas that do not notice problems with the current system.

I will say that this seems fair enough for me, from what I have seen I
can say that the current system is working on wide flat areas with
enough internet provider servers coverage, this could vary from
country to country for a number of reasons (from morphology to
broadband penetration, etc.).

> This is why I am suggesting that the browser feature might only be limited to 
> areas that are known to reach some pre-defined level of error under 
> geolocation. Or else that it be made an opt-in feature (perhaps even 
> advertised through the current geonotice in areas that are known to be a 
> problem).  However I don't believe that gathering more browser data for 
> everyone everywhere is a likely to be good overall solution.

Yes, opt-in is a viable solution but I think it spoils the best from
the system, in fact with opt-in we would only reach people that:
* are registered users
* are expert enough to know that such gadgets exist and know how to
activate them (I didn't know this myself till some months ago although
I'm a Wikipedia editor from 4+ years).
and I expect this category of users are already participating or
already know how to get informations about meet-ups and local events
even if are buried in obscure pages.

Anyway, I would be very glad of seeing a new study, comprehending more
countries  but I don't have enough time (and probably all the
necessary competences) needed for it, maybe we could some professor
interested on doing such a study (I think it could well be a research
work for an undergraduate student or a bachelor thesis).

Do you think this could work?

Cristian

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

As the GAC doesn't actually take any decision, nor handles any private 
data (it seems), I don't see why it should require identification.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[Katie Chan]

>> Which means the answer is no: not all committee members have been
>> identified.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Yaroslav

Hardly any are, including existing members. Those that are identified to 
the foundation are so because of other current or former positions.



On 24/07/2012 16:13, Béria Lima wrote:

The question is: They will?

(For disclosure, I'm a member of GAC - since the beginning last year - and
I'm identified since 2008.)


AFAIK, it's not been a requirement and it wasn't stated as a requirement 
in the call for (self-)nomination, which I was slightly surprised at 
initially but seeing as there's no access to either restricted 
permissions or non-public data[1], is thus not covered by the Access to 
nonpublic data policy[2].


KTC


(Disclosure: New member, identified 2008.)


[1] Everything is done on Meta
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Matthew Roth]

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Frederic Schutz  wrote:

> Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
>

This conversation came up about a month ago on the Communications Committee
list and Jimmy mentioned that he had made requests through his channels and
had also been told no.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:13:05 -0300, Béria Lima wrote:

The question is: They will?

(For disclosure, I'm a member of GAC - since the beginning last year 
- and

I'm identified since 2008.)
_
*Béria Lima*

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de 
ter

livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. *



I checked that there are 2011 GAC members who were not identified. I 
assumed since nobody cared for a year, this is not considered necessary.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[Béria Lima]

The question is: They will?

(For disclosure, I'm a member of GAC - since the beginning last year - and
I'm identified since 2008.)
_
*Béria Lima*

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. *


On 24 July 2012 09:21, Yaroslav M. Blanter  wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:13:27 +, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov wrote:
>
>> You can always check the list of users identified to the Foundation:
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Identification_**noticeboard
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Which means the answer is no: not all committee members have been
> identified.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours to discuss FDC eligibility-time clarification

[Katie Chan]

On 24/07/2012 15:48, Chary, Meera wrote:

Hi all,


The correct starting times for these IRC office hours are 16:00 UTC (9PDT) and 
23.00 UTC (16PDT) as stated in the Wikimedia-l posts last week. The times are 
now corrected on Meta - thanks for alerting us to this, Michael!



Correction was only applied to the second of the the listed meeting on 
Meta. I've gone ahead and change the listed time for the first meeting 
based on the above. Please check it's correct.


KTC

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Cristian Consonni]

2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni :
> Hi,
>
> The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
> cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
> and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.
>
> Practically everything that happens at the Olympics is notable and
> should be on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. Does anybody know whether there
> are professional accredited photographers who are Wikimedia-friendly
> and plan to upload their photos? If there aren't any, does anybody
> know whether a Wikipedian can obtain such accreditation?
>
> This doesn't concern me directly, but there are many, many people who
> write Wikipedia articles about sports in all languages and it may be
> interesting to them. Also, it may be a frequent issue in sports and
> I'm just not aware of it because I rarely follow sports.
>
> Sources for the restrictions:
> * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
> * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited

I think this another layer of problems besides copyright, with
CC-BY-SA the author grants permission to reuse the photo also for
commercial purposes without requesting permission to the author. But
there are many other layers of rights which could interfere with the
free (or better the "anarchic") reuse of a photo. For example I think
that using an image of Usain Bolt to promote a book without explicit
permission from the athlete (or his agent) is anyhow unlawful even if
the photo was taken, for example, in the street and freely licensed.
That said I think with can treat photo from the Olympics in a similar
way as we do for photos with "personality rights", we could put a
template saying "Olympics photo warning: to reuse for commercial
purposes this photo you should obtain permission from IOC and/or
individuals depicted in the photo".
The point is that the author of the photo allows for it the widest
possible reuse permitted by CC-BY-SA, thus sharing part of its
copyright with others,  but if one wants to use the photo for
commercial purposes that he should go (himself, not the author)
through the hassle of obtaining permission from the relevant subjects.

Could it work?

Cristian

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[Ivan Martínez]

Thank you very much for the opportunity and trust. I'll do my best!
Saludos.

2012/7/23 Abbas Mahmood 

>
> Welcome!
> Looking forward to working with the new members.
> SincerelyAbbas.
>
> > From: abar...@wikimedia.org
> > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:20:20 -0700
> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded
> >
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
> > Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30
> volunteers,
> > following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
> > list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
> > higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation
> of
> > grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
> > diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
> > proposals for best impact.
> >
> > The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly
> doing
> > what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
> > have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a
> little
> > now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
> > grant proposals they would be called upon to review.
> >
> > Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
> > fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
> > grants program.
> >
> >Asaf
> >
> > [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
> > [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
> > [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
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[Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours to discuss FDC eligibility-time clarification

[Chary, Meera]

Hi all,


The correct starting times for these IRC office hours are 16:00 UTC (9PDT) and 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[Yaroslav M. Blanter]

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:13:27 +, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov wrote:

You can always check the list of users identified to the Foundation:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Identification_noticeboard

Alex





Which means the answer is no: not all committee members have been 
identified.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov]

You can always check the list of users identified to the Foundation:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Identification_noticeboard

Alex



2012/7/24 Anirudh Bhati 

> Hi Asaf,
>
> Thank you for posting this and a grand welcome to all the new arrivals in
> the GAC. ;)
>
> I see that some of the folks have chosen to remain anonymous (many of whom
> I identify as prolific contributors to our projects) but I would like to
> know whether the Wikimedia Foundation has independently verified their
> identity prior to induction into the body?
>
> I understand that the body plays only an advisory role into the process
> with the final decision resting on the staff, however, the GAC voice
> carries a fair amount of weight as well (as far as I'm aware).  Therefore,
> I believe, it would serve the interest of all the stakeholders, specially
> the community, to know and be assured that the WMF has already taken steps
> to identify those who would be responsible for advising the WMF on the
> dissemination of funds to grant applications from individuals and chapters
> (non-FDC).
>
> My personal opinion is that though anonymity is great motivator for our
> volunteer contributors on projects, but at the same time it can lead to
> reduced accountability and moral responsibility for work that has direct
> implications in the real world.  I apologize in advance if I have made any
> mistake in fact, and would be happy to hear any differing views on the
> subject.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Anirudh Bhati
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Asaf Bartov 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
> > Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30
> volunteers,
> > following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
> > list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
> > higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation
> of
> > grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
> > diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
> > proposals for best impact.
> >
> > The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly
> doing
> > what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
> > have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a
> little
> > now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
> > grant proposals they would be called upon to review.
> >
> > Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
> > fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
> > grants program.
> >
> >Asaf
> >
> > [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
> > [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
> > [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Ilario Valdelli]

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Andrew Gray wrote:

> On 24 July 2012 10:21, Frederic Schutz  wrote:
> > Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
> >
> > If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
> > actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic,
> but
> > it may be worth a try.
>
> Wikimedia Australia have two accredited reporters for the Paralympics,
> but this explicitly does not provide for freely licensed photography:
>
> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Paralympic_Games
>
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I think that it is connected with the kind of the category of accreditation.

There are some restrictive categories.

There would be no sense to block this possibility to a professional
photoreporter if a newspaper could release the same photo under free
license afterwards.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Amir E. Aharoni]

2012/7/24 Richard Symonds :
> WMUK have asked, and we live in London; some of us next door to the
> stadium. The answer is a resounding 'no' from all corners, even when we
> speak to the government. We've got a volunteer with very good access to the
> games, but even behind the scenes it's difficult to get photographs.

Thank you very much for this answer. I'm very glad to hear that you tried.

Did they explain the resounding 'no'? Do they consider WM-UK to be not
worthy of accreditation in general? Or do they refuse to give a
permission to release photos under Free Wikimedia-compatible licences?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Richard Symonds]

WMUK have asked, and we live in London; some of us next door to the
stadium. The answer is a resounding 'no' from all corners, even when we
speak to the government. We've got a volunteer with very good access to the
games, but even behind the scenes it's difficult to get photographs.

The IOC are not here to give things away for free, it seems: something
which is painfully apparent to those who've seen the ticket prices!

Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK
On Jul 24, 2012 10:59 AM, "Amir E. Aharoni" 
wrote:

> 2012/7/24 Andrew Gray :
> > On 24 July 2012 10:21, Frederic Schutz  wrote:
> >> Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this
> matter?
> >>
> >> If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in
> Switzerland,
> >> actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic,
> but
> >> it may be worth a try.
> >
> > Wikimedia Australia have two accredited reporters for the Paralympics,
> > but this explicitly does not provide for freely licensed photography:
> >
> > http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Paralympic_Games
>
> Aha! Now this starts to be a problem that justifies a campaign for
> allowing Wikmedia-compatible licensing. At the very least, a post
> about this issue in the Foundation blog or in one of the chapters'
> blogs.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Amir E. Aharoni]

2012/7/24 Andrew Gray :
> On 24 July 2012 10:21, Frederic Schutz  wrote:
>> Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
>>
>> If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
>> actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic, but
>> it may be worth a try.
>
> Wikimedia Australia have two accredited reporters for the Paralympics,
> but this explicitly does not provide for freely licensed photography:
>
> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Paralympic_Games

Aha! Now this starts to be a problem that justifies a campaign for
allowing Wikmedia-compatible licensing. At the very least, a post
about this issue in the Foundation blog or in one of the chapters'
blogs.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Andrew Gray]

On 24 July 2012 10:21, Frederic Schutz  wrote:
> Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
>
> If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
> actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic, but
> it may be worth a try.

Wikimedia Australia have two accredited reporters for the Paralympics,
but this explicitly does not provide for freely licensed photography:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Paralympic_Games

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Frederic Schutz]

On 24/07/12 11:43, Tomasz Ganicz wrote:


Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?

If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic, but
it may be worth a try.



According to what is written there:

http://www.london2012.com/media-centre/

It is actually too late to apply for press/photo accreditation :-(


Of course; I was thinking more in terms of discussing their policies, 
and trying a avoid a big fuss when (not if) another picture is posted 
under a license that allows commercial use (e.g. on commons).


Frédéric

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Tomasz Ganicz]

2012/7/24 Frederic Schutz :
> Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?
>
> If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in Switzerland,
> actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly optimistic, but
> it may be worth a try.
>

According to what is written there:

http://www.london2012.com/media-centre/

It is actually too late to apply for press/photo accreditation :-(


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Grant Advisory Committee Expanded

[Anirudh Bhati]

Hi Asaf,

Thank you for posting this and a grand welcome to all the new arrivals in
the GAC. ;)

I see that some of the folks have chosen to remain anonymous (many of whom
I identify as prolific contributors to our projects) but I would like to
know whether the Wikimedia Foundation has independently verified their
identity prior to induction into the body?

I understand that the body plays only an advisory role into the process
with the final decision resting on the staff, however, the GAC voice
carries a fair amount of weight as well (as far as I'm aware).  Therefore,
I believe, it would serve the interest of all the stakeholders, specially
the community, to know and be assured that the WMF has already taken steps
to identify those who would be responsible for advising the WMF on the
dissemination of funds to grant applications from individuals and chapters
(non-FDC).

My personal opinion is that though anonymity is great motivator for our
volunteer contributors on projects, but at the same time it can lead to
reduced accountability and moral responsibility for work that has direct
implications in the real world.  I apologize in advance if I have made any
mistake in fact, and would be happy to hear any differing views on the
subject.

Sincerely,

Anirudh Bhati

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Hello, everyone.
>
> I'm pleased to announce that we have significantly expanded the Grant
> Advisory Committee (GAC)[1] as of today, and it now numbers 30 volunteers,
> following an open process and public calls for volunteers.  The updated
> list of members is here[2].  With this expansion, we hope to achieve a
> higher degree of community participation in the Foundation's evaluation of
> grant proposals for its Wikimedia Grants program[3], as well as more
> diverse feedback and advice for grant applicants on how to refine their
> proposals for best impact.
>
> The GAC was set up almost exactly one year ago, and has been quietly doing
> what is frankly a thankless job.  I applaud and thank the volunteers who
> have done this work so far, and look forward to easing their load a little
> now that the GAC is larger, considering an expected rise in the number of
> grant proposals they would be called upon to review.
>
> Welcome to the new volunteers, and may we all have much success in
> fostering innovation and impactful mission-aligned activities through the
> grants program.
>
>Asaf
>
> [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee
> [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_Advisory_Committee#Membership
> [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Ilario Valdelli]

I assume that a photographer with an accreditation may take photos also for
commercial use.

I suppose that the IOC connects the right to take this kind of photos with
the accreditation and to pay a contingent grant as soon this accreditation
is assigned.

The use of limited photo equipments for the no accredited persons assures
that the photos will be low qualitative.

In my opinion the position of IOC is correct. If someone would take
professional photos, he may request an accreditation.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Liam Wyatt  wrote:

> This issue is not merely theoretical.
> Many will recall the controversy surrounding the free-licensed photo of
> Usain Bolt, on Commons, taken during the Beijing Olympics:
> -
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-10-12/In_the_news
> -
>
> http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/
>
> -Liam
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Frederic Schutz]

Has anyone from the Wikimedia community contacted the IOC on this matter?

If not, WM CH could give it a try (their headquarters are in 
Switzerland, actually less than 2km away from my place). I'm not overly 
optimistic, but it may be worth a try.


Frédéric

On 24/07/12 11:05, Liam Wyatt wrote:


This issue is not merely theoretical.
Many will recall the controversy surrounding the free-licensed photo of
Usain Bolt, on Commons, taken during the Beijing Olympics:
-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-10-12/In_the_news
-
http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/

-Liam

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Petr Kadlec]

On 24 July 2012 10:35, Amir E. Aharoni  wrote:
> 2012/7/24 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) :
>> May be we should take such anomalies to public forums!
>
> I'm not actually sure that it's an anomaly. As I said, I don't follow
> sports and I only noticed such a thing now for the first time, but I
> don't find it extremely surprising.

Exactly. Actually, there are much greater “anomalies” around Olympics…
See e.g. 
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2012/07/21/london-olympics-lord-coe-s-astonishing-sponsors-outburst-86908-23910798/

It is probably interesting to point out we have
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:NCR stating basically we ignore
such “house rules” (or, in other words: if anyone without an
accreditation dares to upload his photos under a free license, we will
happily keep the images on Commons, whatever was written on the
tickets, with any possible risks on the uploader, of course).

-- [[cs:User:Mormegil | Petr Kadlec]]

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Liam Wyatt]

This issue is not merely theoretical.
Many will recall the controversy surrounding the free-licensed photo of
Usain Bolt, on Commons, taken during the Beijing Olympics:
-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-10-12/In_the_news
-
http://ragesoss.com/blog/2009/10/09/wikipedia-and-olympics-committee-heading-for-collision/

-Liam

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Amir E. Aharoni]

2012/7/24 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) :
> May be we should take such anomalies to public forums!

I'm not actually sure that it's an anomaly. As I said, I don't follow
sports and I only noticed such a thing now for the first time, but I
don't find it extremely surprising.

I can even understand the restrictions somewhat - it's possible that
it's not just a matter of greed, but also of privacy, press ethics,
etc. Some screening of participation in a major public event is not
entirely unreasonable. The main question is - is there a reasonable
way in which a Free-Culture-friendly photographer could pass such
screening.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

May be we should take such anomalies to public forums!

Slash dot? Free knowledge forums? Press? Media?

Olympics is not just a money spinning sponsored affair. Information about
the happenings there is the right of every universal citizen!

The 'long' camera may have something to do with security. But
accreditations?

My 2 cents of thoughts.
-Viswam



On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
> cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
> and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.
>
> Practically everything that happens at the Olympics is notable and
> should be on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. Does anybody know whether there
> are professional accredited photographers who are Wikimedia-friendly
> and plan to upload their photos? If there aren't any, does anybody
> know whether a Wikipedian can obtain such accreditation?
>
> This doesn't concern me directly, but there are many, many people who
> write Wikipedia articles about sports in all languages and it may be
> interesting to them. Also, it may be a frequent issue in sports and
> I'm just not aware of it because I rarely follow sports.
>
> Sources for the restrictions:
> * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
> * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Ilario Valdelli]

Wikimedia Ch gives usually accreditations and we did it in the past also
for sport's events.

Naturally we gives accreditation only to people who send as formal request
and are identified (no unknown people).

In general we contact the press office of the event and inform them that a
defined number of photographers will participate, as soon we receive the
notification, these persons are accredited.

Naturally these persons will operate as Wikimedia Ch personel and may be
protected with an insurance (at least within Switzerland).

Anyway we have received no requests of accreditation for Olympics 2012.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
> cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
> and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.
>
> Practically everything that happens at the Olympics is notable and
> should be on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. Does anybody know whether there
> are professional accredited photographers who are Wikimedia-friendly
> and plan to upload their photos? If there aren't any, does anybody
> know whether a Wikipedian can obtain such accreditation?
>
>

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject: IRC office hours to discuss FDC eligibility criteria and next steps

[Michael Jahn]

Just about to put this information on WMDE's blog, but I'm confused about
the timing:

16:00 UTC and 23.00 UTC are given as starting times in the below email
(which is 9 PDT and 16 PDT). But on Meta it reads 9 _UTC_ and 16 _UTC_,
respectively:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours

Clarification would be much appreciated!

Best,
Michael


2012/7/21 Garfield Byrd 

> Dear Wikimedia Community,
>
> As you may have seen, last week the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> passed a resolution to establish the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
> [1].
> Full details about the planned structure and processes of the FDC can be
> found in the framework proposed to the Board [2]. This framework was
> developed over the past few months with input from a variety of people
> across the movement.
>
> We will be holding two sets of *IRC office hours* on *Wednesday 25 July*,
> to answer any questions community members may have about the FDC process;
> in particular the first step of establishing the eligibility to apply to
> the FDC. Office hours will be held:
>
> · 16:00-17:00 UTC/09:00 PDT Wednesday, July 25th
>
> · 23:00-23:59 UTC/16:00 PDT Wednesday, July 25th
>
> On *Monday 23 July 2012*, the Foundation will publish a list of eligible
> entities based on the eligibility criteria established in the framework
> [3].
> Please let me know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to
> this list. Entities who are interested in applying for funds through the
> FDC but are ineligible due to compliance issues should work with the
> Foundation to develop a plan to correct compliance issues.
>
> Entities who are ineligible for other reasons - or who would prefer not to
> go through the FDC process in this round -may seek funding through the
> Wikimedia Foundation Grants Program.
>
> I will be sending out a more detailed email on Monday to inform you of this
> list and next steps in the process. I look forward to speaking with you on
> Wednesday.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Garfield Byrd
>
> (WMF Chief of Finance and Administration)
>
>
>
> [1]
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Funds_Dissemination_Committee_framework_and_initial_operation
>
> [2]
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Draft_FDC_Proposal_for_the_Board
>
> [3]
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Sample_letter_of_intent_and_eligibility_checklist
>
>
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[Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Amir E. Aharoni]

Hi,

The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.

Practically everything that happens at the Olympics is notable and
should be on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. Does anybody know whether there
are professional accredited photographers who are Wikimedia-friendly
and plan to upload their photos? If there aren't any, does anybody
know whether a Wikipedian can obtain such accreditation?

This doesn't concern me directly, but there are many, many people who
write Wikipedia articles about sports in all languages and it may be
interesting to them. Also, it may be a frequent issue in sports and
I'm just not aware of it because I rarely follow sports.

Sources for the restrictions:
* http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
* PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited

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