Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

[Thomas Shafee]

Such translation of CC content is pretty much unpreventable and can be a
benefit or a drawback depending on the author's own opinion.

From the point of view of an official 'version of record' (i.e. what the
doi points to) the authors would be named along with attribution of all
contributors. If there are translations, they'd likely be marked as
somethign like "adapted by translators XYZ from article XYZ by original
authors XYZ under a CC-BY license", though details would need to be decided
if it came up. See this 2008 article
 for some ideas
floated previously floated. I'll admit I've limited knowledge of
translation practices though, so the project would need advice!

For some existing Wikipedia-based examples:

   - PLOS article
   

and
   uk.wp page
   

   - PLOS article
   

and es.wp page
   



Thomas

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 12:48, James Heilman  wrote:

> When we publish CC BY SA on Wikipedia, we allow translation into other
> languages without having any control over the translations (but we require
> our name to be attached in some fashion). So right now we do all the time.
> Most of my academic publications are CC BY which is even more permissive.
>
> James
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 7:27 PM Thomas Townsend 
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 18:46, James Heilman  wrote:
> >
> > > Wiki Journals use CC BY SA. We do not support or want to us ND as that
> > > would prevent translation into other languages. That is why I disagree
> > with
> > > Plan S's move to allow ND.
> > >
> >
> > So part of the offer is that an author's article may be translated into
> > other languages without the original author having any say in the
> process?
> >  Surely you would not permit your own articles to be republished in
> another
> > language with your name still on them and your having no control over
> what
> > the translation says in your name?
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

[James Heilman]

When we publish CC BY SA on Wikipedia, we allow translation into other
languages without having any control over the translations (but we require
our name to be attached in some fashion). So right now we do all the time.
Most of my academic publications are CC BY which is even more permissive.

James

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 7:27 PM Thomas Townsend 
wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 18:46, James Heilman  wrote:
>
> > Wiki Journals use CC BY SA. We do not support or want to us ND as that
> > would prevent translation into other languages. That is why I disagree
> with
> > Plan S's move to allow ND.
> >
>
> So part of the offer is that an author's article may be translated into
> other languages without the original author having any say in the process?
>  Surely you would not permit your own articles to be republished in another
> language with your name still on them and your having no control over what
> the translation says in your name?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

[Thomas Townsend]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 18:46, James Heilman  wrote:

> Wiki Journals use CC BY SA. We do not support or want to us ND as that
> would prevent translation into other languages. That is why I disagree with
> Plan S's move to allow ND.
>

So part of the offer is that an author's article may be translated into
other languages without the original author having any say in the process?
 Surely you would not permit your own articles to be republished in another
language with your name still on them and your having no control over what
the translation says in your name?

The Turnip
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[Wikimedia-l] Transparent Economy: new project proposal

[Pino de Candia]

Hello Wikipedians,

I have just added a new project proposal here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Transparent_Economy

I would appreciate any and all guidance, especially reflecting prior
efforts/attempts to document products and companies in a systematic way,
and whether my goals warrant a separate project from Wikipedia itself.

For convenience, I have copied the project goals below (and added
formatting).

thanks and best regards,
Pino de Candia


== Project Description/Goals ==

Document verifiable (no original research) and neutral facts about
companies and products to help consumers make choices that reflect their
economic values.

The kind of information should be decided by the community and evolve over
time, but here is my initial thinking:
- For each product:
  - where is it produced
  - how many workers are there
  - where do they reside
  - and how well are they paid.
- For each company:
  - who owns it (other companies)
  - where is it registered
  - what certifications has it won (e.g. fair-trade, fair-labor,
B-certification, etc) by reputable organizations
  -  what standards does it follow and what kind of rating/grade has it
obtained.
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[Wikimedia-l] Quod facit beatus hic sabbati? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 2 June 2019)

[Pine W]

As usual, I am grateful for the volunteer contributors to the most recent
issue

of The Signpost.

I was happy to see that Wikimedia Canada
 and Library and Archives Canada
 announced a
collaboration
.

Thanks to Brooke Storm (WMF Cloud Services) and Bryan Davis (WMF Technical
Engagement), I found an amusing xkcd depiction  of
successful task automation and unsuccessful task automation.


Here are some recent stories that were published by WMF:

* Four open design methods we used to improve Wikipedia’s iOS app


* With Wikipedia in the classroom, a former student has become the teacher


* Wikimedia Foundation announces tenth transparency report


* Wikimedia Foundation urges Chinese authorities to lift block of Wikipedia
in China


* MediaWiki is the software that underpins Wikipedia. This conference shows
all the other ways it can be used.


* Wikimedia Argentina and the National University of La Plata partner to
promote free knowledge


The Word of the Day for English Wiktionary on June 2nd was "rubicon". I was
familiar with a fictional ship named
Rubicon
 and I guessed that the
name referred to a river, which it does
, but I did not know that more than
one river  is
named Rubicon, and I did not know about many other uses for the name
. Thanks to
Wiktionary, I learned that the word "rubicon" (with a lowercase "r") has its
own meanings
 and
an interesting
etymology  that refers to the the
Italian river as a location of a notable event in history
, and possibly also
refers the red color of the river

.

What's making you happy this week? You are welcome to comment in any
language.

Pine

( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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