[Wikimediaindia-l] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
namaste, It gives me immense pleasure to announce the re-release of 105 Kannada classics by Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka, under CC-BY-SA. CIS-A2K put lot of efforts in convincing the department to achieve this milestone. These books include classics like complete Dasa Sahitya which include complete works of Purandaradasa, Kanakadasa, complete Vachana Sahitya, Kumaravyasa Bharata, Jaimini Bharata, etc. We got 4 books in PDF form and they have been uploaded to Commons and index pages created in Kannada Wikisource. The complete project page for anyone to register and start working on is at http://bit.ly/gokbooks. The same page has the link to the declaration containing the list of books released under CC-BY-SA now. People are welcome to scan and upload other books from the list. I am simultaneously working on procuring other books from the list in PDF form. Thanks and regards, Pavanaja ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
Wow! This is an amazing news for Kannada and Open Knowledge Movement! On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Dr Pavanaja pavan...@vishvakannada.com wrote: namaste, It gives me immense pleasure to announce the re-release of 105 Kannada classics by Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka, under CC-BY-SA. CIS-A2K put lot of efforts in convincing the department to achieve this milestone. These books include classics like complete Dasa Sahitya which include complete works of Purandaradasa, Kanakadasa, complete Vachana Sahitya, Kumaravyasa Bharata, Jaimini Bharata, etc. We got 4 books in PDF form and they have been uploaded to Commons and index pages created in Kannada Wikisource. The complete project page for anyone to register and start working on is at http://bit.ly/gokbooks. The same page has the link to the declaration containing the list of books released under CC-BY-SA now. People are welcome to scan and upload other books from the list. I am simultaneously working on procuring other books from the list in PDF form. Thanks and regards, Pavanaja ___ Wikikn-l mailing list wikik...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikikn-l -- Omshivaprakash H L | ಓಂಶಿವಪ್ರಕಾಶ್ ಎಚ್.ಎಲ್ | ॐ शिवप्रकाश् एच्. एल् Kannada SIG Wikimedia India Chapter [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
Hi Pavanaja, Please excuse my ignorance regarding Kannada Literature. Are we talking about the works of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purandara_Dasa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanaka_Dasa and works like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasa_sahitya These seem centuries old and should be already available in public domain with no copyright claims. Why woud we need them re-released under Creative Commons? If Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka provides access to readily available digitized sources, it is an important gesture and I appreciate the effort behind this. But, not sure on the copyright part. Could you please clarify? Thanks. Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
Dear Ravi, The works are no doubt out of copyright, but the particular collection, edited and paginated by GoK is what have been re-released in CC. They have so far provided softcopies of 4 books. I am trying to get the remaining books as well. Thanks and regards, Pavanaja On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu ravidre...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi Pavanaja, Please excuse my ignorance regarding Kannada Literature. Are we talking about the works of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purandara_Dasa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanaka_Dasa and works like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasa_sahitya These seem centuries old and should be already available in public domain with no copyright claims. Why woud we need them re-released under Creative Commons? If Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka provides access to readily available digitized sources, it is an important gesture and I appreciate the effort behind this. But, not sure on the copyright part. Could you please clarify? Thanks. Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Software Freedom Day Celebrations across India
+1 Ravi Vishnu On Wednesday 24 September 2014 04:02 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu wrote: Hi, Software Freedom Day is a global celebration and education of why transparent and sustainable technologies are now more important than ever. You may find an event happening near your place at http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2014 If not, you can start an event and gather friends from Wikimedia, FOSS and other Free Culture communities. This is a good opportunity not only to spread awareness about Wikimedia projects but also a chance to network and win friends for our community. I will be attending Software Freedom Day celebrations in Chennai on 27th September at Anna University Campus, Chennai. More details can be found at http://fsftn.org/sfd2014-stall-registration-form/ We have a stall registered already for Wikimedia projects. I welcome the Wikimedia community in and around Chennai for this event. Thanks, Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
Dear Ravi, On the copyright question AFAIK... it is the manner in which a certain content is expressed (e.g. analyzed, compiled, paginated, represented, etc..) the author could claim copyright, as there is a certain basic amount of creative labour that went into it. So Govt. of Karnataka could rightfully copyright these works, which it has now released under CC-BY-SA 3.0. A useful thing to read in this context would be this [1]. Coming to this specific case of CC release,what I see important for our context of open knowledge movement in India is the gesture of release of such large content under Creative Commons by the Government of Karnataka, than anything else. I am sure you will agree that we all could cite this as a precedence in negotiating with other Government entities for getting more content released under CC. For instance, we at CIS-A2K showed Goa University's Konkani Wikipedia re-licensing under CC as an example in persuading the Mysore University authorities to release the Kannada Encyclopedias under CC. Such precedents become even more important in the Indic Wikimedia project's context as the publication of majority of non-fiction writing in the Indian languages during the last 60 years happened under aegis of the Government in India. Cheers, Vishnu [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_v._Rural https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idea-expression_divide (needs wiki love) On Wednesday 24 September 2014 07:00 PM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu wrote: Hi Pavanaja, Please excuse my ignorance regarding Kannada Literature. Are we talking about the works of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purandara_Dasa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanaka_Dasa and works like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasa_sahitya These seem centuries old and should be already available in public domain with no copyright claims. Why woud we need them re-released under Creative Commons? If Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka provides access to readily available digitized sources, it is an important gesture and I appreciate the effort behind this. But, not sure on the copyright part. Could you please clarify? Thanks. Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
JFYI: my team worked on Vachana Sahitya digitization and research tool last year and it was made available to public reuse this year. We are in process of the content review and once done, we (vachana sanchaya team) will be pushing this to kannada wikisource . Here is a blog post on this effort and our future plan. https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/03/12/11th-century-kannada-literature-to-enrich-wikisource/ The next major digitization task we are on is Daasa Sahitya. It feels good to hear that Karnataka Government now recognizes the public domain content with appropriate license. Of they provide access to any form of digital content through this process, we would be more happy to make it available in Unicode and share it back through Wikimedia projects. Thanks again for everyone who are working hard behind these Open Knowledge initiatives. On Sep 24, 2014 9:56 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ravi, On the copyright question AFAIK... it is the manner in which a certain content is expressed (e.g. analyzed, compiled, paginated, represented, etc..) the author could claim copyright, as there is a certain basic amount of creative labour that went into it. So Govt. of Karnataka could rightfully copyright these works, which it has now released under CC-BY-SA 3.0. A useful thing to read in this context would be this [1]. Coming to this specific case of CC release,what I see important for our context of open knowledge movement in India is the gesture of release of such large content under Creative Commons by the Government of Karnataka, than anything else. I am sure you will agree that we all could cite this as a precedence in negotiating with other Government entities for getting more content released under CC. For instance, we at CIS-A2K showed Goa University's Konkani Wikipedia re-licensing under CC as an example in persuading the Mysore University authorities to release the Kannada Encyclopedias under CC. Such precedents become even more important in the Indic Wikimedia project's context as the publication of majority of non-fiction writing in the Indian languages during the last 60 years happened under aegis of the Government in India. Cheers, Vishnu [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_v._Rural https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idea-expression_divide (needs wiki love) On Wednesday 24 September 2014 07:00 PM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu wrote: Hi Pavanaja, Please excuse my ignorance regarding Kannada Literature. Are we talking about the works of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purandara_Dasa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanaka_Dasa and works like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasa_sahitya These seem centuries old and should be already available in public domain with no copyright claims. Why woud we need them re-released under Creative Commons? If Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka provides access to readily available digitized sources, it is an important gesture and I appreciate the effort behind this. But, not sure on the copyright part. Could you please clarify? Thanks. Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing listwikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Software Freedom Day Celebrations across India
+1 On Sep 24, 2014 8:59 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu ravidre...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi, Software Freedom Day is a global celebration and education of why transparent and sustainable technologies are now more important than ever. You may find an event happening near your place at http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2014 If not, you can start an event and gather friends from Wikimedia, FOSS and other Free Culture communities. This is a good opportunity not only to spread awareness about Wikimedia projects but also a chance to network and win friends for our community. I will be attending Software Freedom Day celebrations in Chennai on 27th September at Anna University Campus, Chennai. More details can be found at http://fsftn.org/sfd2014-stall-registration-form/ We have a stall registered already for Wikimedia projects. I welcome the Wikimedia community in and around Chennai for this event. Thanks, Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
Great news. *CIS-A2K put lot of efforts in convincing the department to achieve thismilestone.* Congrats to CIS-A2K team. All the best for similar projects. :) Warm Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Dr Pavanaja pavan...@vishvakannada.com wrote: namaste, It gives me immense pleasure to announce the re-release of 105 Kannada classics by Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka, under CC-BY-SA. CIS-A2K put lot of efforts in convincing the department to achieve this milestone. These books include classics like complete Dasa Sahitya which include complete works of Purandaradasa, Kanakadasa, complete Vachana Sahitya, Kumaravyasa Bharata, Jaimini Bharata, etc. We got 4 books in PDF form and they have been uploaded to Commons and index pages created in Kannada Wikisource. The complete project page for anyone to register and start working on is at http://bit.ly/gokbooks. The same page has the link to the declaration containing the list of books released under CC-BY-SA now. People are welcome to scan and upload other books from the list. I am simultaneously working on procuring other books from the list in PDF form. Thanks and regards, Pavanaja ___ Wikikn-l mailing list wikik...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikikn-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] ***Security notice*** for IRC: vulnerability prior to September 15, change passwords
For those who are active on IRC [1]. Best, Vishnu [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat Forwarded Message Subject: [Wikimedia-l] ***Security notice*** for IRC: vulnerability prior to September 15, change passwords Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:45:59 -0700 From: Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org To: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia-announce wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, secur...@wikimedia.org All, As you may have heard, Freenode found some compromised servers on their networks. Network traffic, including SSL traffic, may have been sniffed by a third party. This likely affects many Wikimedia IRC users, including users who do not speak English, so please forward this notice and translate as needed for the benefit of other Wikimedians. If you have not changed your nickserv password on September 15 or later, please do so now. From the Freenode blog: Before changing your password, please check your email address in /msg nickserv info and, if needed, update it – see /msg nickserv help set email (remember to check your new email for the verification key). This will ensure that we can send you a password reset email should, for whatever reason, your password change not work properly. If you have no email set on your account or an email set that you cannot access, we cannot send password resets to you, so do please keep this up-to-date. To change your password use /msg nickserv set password newpasshere Since traffic may have been sniffed, you may also wish to consider any channel keys or similar secret information exchanged over the network. Please direct questions to Freenode IRC ops. They are voiced in the #freenode channel. Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Live Interview @WeAreWikipedia
Nice session - https://twitter.com/WeAreWikipedia/with_replies :) Could you please share brief summary ? and is there google calendar for upcoming online/offline activities? Warm Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu ravidre...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi, Please join me and Bishkha Datta (Board member, Wikimedia Foundation) today (24th September 9 PM Indian Time) for a live interview through Twitter at @WeAreWikipedia . https://twitter.com/WeAreWikipedia Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Be part of the most epic data collection and analysis of Wikimedia programs!
FYI This might be useful, pleases share in the community. Thanks, Arnav. (User:Rangilo_Gujarati). -- Forwarded message -- From: Anasuya Sengupta asengu...@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:29 PM Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Be part of the most epic data collection and analysis of Wikimedia programs! To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear Wikimedian friends and colleagues, tl;dr We have just launched our second round of voluntary reporting. This is the most epic data collection and analysis of Wikimedia programs we've done so far as a movement, and all program leaders are invited to take part. :-) You can do so here: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0B3azKpdZ7ggCtD (or get in touch with the LE team for support). As we did in the Fall of 2013, we invite community members leading and evaluating Wikimedia programs to share their data with the rest of the movement (i.e., Edit-a-thons, Editing Workshops, On-wiki Writing Contests, Photo Events, etc.). Last year’s data was collected and analysed in a series of reports that was the beginning of telling the Wikimedia story of impact: the incredible work of over 60 program leaders implementing 119 programs or projects in 30 countries across the world. This helped us start building a set of good and best practices for effective programs across our movement.[1] This year’s data drive will be critical to help us continue to do and learn better from each other. To best prepare, program leaders can review the reporting items [1] and start gathering that data you have filed away about your programs since the last reporting round. We are looking for data on programs completed any time from September 1, 2013 through September 30, 2014. You can ask questions directly on the reporting form preview [2] or on our portal talk page [3]. If you are planning to report and may need support from us, do let us know so that we can help in any way needed. When ready, you will find the reporting collector at: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0B3azKpdZ7ggCtD We also welcome your data in different formats. For example, if you have already reported data elsewhere, we are happy to work with you to make the process as easy as possible. Message e...@wikimedia.org and we can work out the easiest way to include your data. We are expanding the number of programs covered in the reporting this year, and extend the reporting window longer for some new programs, GLAM, and Wiki Loves Monuments. See the schedule below for timelines for reporting for each program type. Data submission deadlines by program: Due by October 20th Edit-a-thons/editing parties Editing Workshops Due by November 3rd On-wiki Writing Contests Photo Events (Wiki Loves Earth, WikiExpeditions, WikiTakes, etc.) Wikipedia Education Program Due by November 17th Conferences GLAM Content Donation Hackathons Wiki Loves Monuments (2013 and 2014) Wikimedian in Residence Remember, reporting is voluntary but the more people do it, the better representation of programs we can make. This voluntary reporting allows us to come together and generate a bird’s eye view of programs [4]. We want to understand the impact of programs across different contexts, to examine both more broadly, and more deeply, what works best to meet our shared goals for Wikimedia and to, together, grow the awesome [5] in Wikimedia programs! On behalf of the Program Evaluation and Design team, thank you for your time and support in this initiative. Warmly, Anasuya Resource links: [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013 [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CG-K8I1d9JPqyRRyHTIQ5x7fASQXcHZsEMKutdAGuEY/edit?usp=sharing [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Evaluation [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Evaluation_Report_(beta)_Poster_Wikimania_2014.pdf [5] http://www.nbp.org/nbp/images/book_photos/MAG-AWESOME.jpg -- Anasuya Sengupta Senior Director of Grantmaking Wikimedia Foundation Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! Support Wikimedia ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Live Interview @WeAreWikipedia
Will create a storify and post later, Bishakha On 25 Sep 2014 01:21, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Nice session - https://twitter.com/WeAreWikipedia/with_replies :) Could you please share brief summary ? and is there google calendar for upcoming online/offline activities? Warm Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu ravidre...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi, Please join me and Bishkha Datta (Board member, Wikimedia Foundation) today (24th September 9 PM Indian Time) for a live interview through Twitter at @WeAreWikipedia . https://twitter.com/WeAreWikipedia Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ravi, On the copyright question AFAIK... it is the manner in which a certain content is expressed (e.g. analyzed, compiled, paginated, represented, etc..) the author could claim copyright, as there is a certain basic amount of creative labour that went into it. So Govt. of Karnataka could rightfully copyright these works, which it has now released under CC-BY-SA 3.0. A useful thing to read in this context would be this [1]. As Ravi pointed 11th Century Kannada literature is already public domain . There is no point in re-licensing it as CC-BY-SA . Digitization does not create fresh copyright . While thanking Govt for their efforts to make it available , please dont create fresh copyright on it . And while looking at details, There was no point of time in which govt of Karanataka had copyright on this content . This effort is almost in same lines of Open access initiative of rare public domain books by Kerala Sahitya academy happened almost same time last year (http://www.keralasahityaakademi.org/online_library/index.html) . They havnt claimed any undeserving copyright on these books . SO it is better if people involved canm correct Govt of Karanataka at this point itself showing kerala example to avoid further ambiguities surrounding license . ~ regards Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Recruitment Announcement : Program Director of Wikimedia India Chapter
Congrats Ravi, Happy to see an active wikipedian joining as a chapter staff. Usually what we see in this sector for last few yerars is community members quitting staff positions after a short term burnout at official roles. I am sure Ravi will not join in that list and he will lead the chapter to new heights with clear understanding on community practices Wish you and the Chapter all success! I am very happy that chapter selected an active Wikimedian to its staff position ~ regards Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recruitment Announcement : Program Director of Wikimedia India Chapter
Hearty Congratulations, Ravi.. And Welcome to Bangalore :) Regards Tinu Cherian On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Jayanta Nath jaya...@wikimedia.in wrote: Dear Members of Wikimedia India Chapter, It is my pleasure to announce Ravishankar Ayyakkannu as the Program Director of Wikimedia India Chapter. He was involved in various projects of the movement that dealt with the State Government of Tamilnadu and multinational firms like Google. His experiences working for the movement have been featured in media including The New York Times and BBC. He has served as the General Council member of the International Forum for Information Technology in Tamil. He is also actively involved in promoting Free and Open Source projects and Free Culture movements in Tamil. Ravishankar completed his graduation from Nanyang Technical University, Singapore and Technical University of Munich, Germany and later worked as a researcher for the Leiden University in The Netherlands.He has been working as an independent Web development consultant. The Interview committee consisting of Sudhanwa Jogalekar (Past president) , Navin Francis ( Past Secretory), Moksh Juneja (President) and myself were honored to be part of this efficient, effective, and enlightening process. Ravishankar joined Wikimedia India on 20th September 2014 as Program Director. He will be based in Bangalore. His primary roles are supporting community members in organizing and executing the various chapter programs, strategic planning for the chapter, mentoring interns and devise success measurement metrics for community projects. Please join me in officially welcoming Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Wikimedia India Chapter! Jayanta Nath President Wikimedia India Chapter ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ravi, On the copyright question AFAIK... it is the manner in which a certain content is expressed (e.g. analyzed, compiled, paginated, represented, etc..) the author could claim copyright, as there is a certain basic amount of creative labour that went into it. So Govt. of Karnataka could rightfully copyright these works, which it has now released under CC-BY-SA 3.0. A useful thing to read in this context would be this [1]. As Ravi pointed 11th Century Kannada literature is already public domain . There is no point in re-licensing it as CC-BY-SA . Digitization does not create fresh copyright . While thanking Govt for their efforts to make it available , please dont create fresh copyright on it . And while looking at details, There was no point of time in which govt of Karanataka had copyright on this content . This effort is almost in same lines of Open access initiative of rare public domain books by Kerala Sahitya academy happened almost same time last year (http://www.keralasahityaakademi.org/online_library/index.html) . They havnt claimed any undeserving copyright on these books . SO it is better if people involved canm correct Govt of Karanataka at this point itself showing kerala example to avoid further ambiguities surrounding license . ~ regards Anivar I agree with Ravi and Anivar! I am not an expert of licensing, but the thing that is already in public domain, licensing the same under CC-BY-SA 3.0 is one way limiting the public availability of the same content. -- Rajesh Ranjan www.rajeshranjan.in @kajha https://twitter.com/kajha Can the FOSS community save 197 endangered Indian languages? http://opensource.com/community/14/7/save-endangered-language-today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
@Rajesh @Ravi @Anivar @Pavanaja Don't you think CC0 (Public Domain) is the best license for this? We always back off from using the government produced books and content unless it is stated to used by public without restrictions. But data that has been in circulation among people doesn't require to be copyrighted even for just digitizing. We should surely discuss this at large. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Rajesh Ranjan rajeshka...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ravi, On the copyright question AFAIK... it is the manner in which a certain content is expressed (e.g. analyzed, compiled, paginated, represented, etc..) the author could claim copyright, as there is a certain basic amount of creative labour that went into it. So Govt. of Karnataka could rightfully copyright these works, which it has now released under CC-BY-SA 3.0. A useful thing to read in this context would be this [1]. As Ravi pointed 11th Century Kannada literature is already public domain . There is no point in re-licensing it as CC-BY-SA . Digitization does not create fresh copyright . While thanking Govt for their efforts to make it available , please dont create fresh copyright on it . And while looking at details, There was no point of time in which govt of Karanataka had copyright on this content . This effort is almost in same lines of Open access initiative of rare public domain books by Kerala Sahitya academy happened almost same time last year (http://www.keralasahityaakademi.org/online_library/index.html) . They havnt claimed any undeserving copyright on these books . SO it is better if people involved canm correct Govt of Karanataka at this point itself showing kerala example to avoid further ambiguities surrounding license . ~ regards Anivar I agree with Ravi and Anivar! I am not an expert of licensing, but the thing that is already in public domain, licensing the same under CC-BY-SA 3.0 is one way limiting the public availability of the same content. -- Rajesh Ranjan www.rajeshranjan.in @kajha https://twitter.com/kajha Can the FOSS community save 197 endangered Indian languages? http://opensource.com/community/14/7/save-endangered-language-today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Omshivaprakash H L | ಓಂಶಿವಪ್ರಕಾಶ್ ಎಚ್.ಎಲ್ | ॐ शिवप्रकाश् एच्. एल् Kannada SIG Wikimedia India Chapter [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Omshivaprakash | Wikimedia omshivaprak...@wikimedia.in wrote: @Rajesh @Ravi @Anivar @Pavanaja Don't you think CC0 (Public Domain) is the best license for this? We always back off from using the government produced books and content unless it is stated to used by public without restrictions. But data that has been in circulation among people doesn't require to be copyrighted even for just digitizing. We should surely discuss this at large. CC0 applies only if the Govt of Karanataka Owns current copyright of it and want to make it public domain . In this case Govt does not owns its copyright and It is already public domain . What they are doing is making them available via Digitalization , ie it is an Open access initiative of rare public domain books There is no role for copyright or licenses in this ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
@Anivar Thanks for the clarifying! Its much clearer now. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Omshivaprakash | Wikimedia omshivaprak...@wikimedia.in wrote: @Rajesh @Ravi @Anivar @Pavanaja Don't you think CC0 (Public Domain) is the best license for this? We always back off from using the government produced books and content unless it is stated to used by public without restrictions. But data that has been in circulation among people doesn't require to be copyrighted even for just digitizing. We should surely discuss this at large. CC0 applies only if the Govt of Karanataka Owns current copyright of it and want to make it public domain . In this case Govt does not owns its copyright and It is already public domain . What they are doing is making them available via Digitalization , ie it is an Open access initiative of rare public domain books There is no role for copyright or licenses in this ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Omshivaprakash H L | ಓಂಶಿವಪ್ರಕಾಶ್ ಎಚ್.ಎಲ್ | ॐ शिवप्रकाश् एच्. एल् Kannada SIG Wikimedia India Chapter [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
