[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] GSoC and OPW results
Congrats to all winners! Happy to see many students from India. Santhosh -- Forwarded message -- From: *Quim Gil* Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 Subject: [Wikitech-l] GSoC and OPW results To: Wikimedia developers The results are out! We have selected 20 Google Summer of Code and 2 Outreach Program for Women projects: Google Summer of Code http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2013 Aarti Dwivedi - Refactoring of ProofreadPage extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rtdwivedi#OPW_Round_6_Proposal Anubhav Agarwal - Bayesian Spam Filter Extension for MediaWiki http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Anubhav_iitr Harsh Kothari - Language Coverage Matrix Dashboard http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Harsh4101991/GSoC_2013 Himeshi De Silva - Section handling in Semantic forms http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Himeshi/GSoC_2013_Application Jiabao Wu - VisualEditor Mathematical Editor Plugin http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jiabao_wu/GSoC_2013_Application Kiran Mathew Koshy - ZIM incremental updates for Kiwix http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Kiran_mathew_1993/ZIM_incremental_updates_for_Kiwix Liangent - Wikidata language fallback and conversion http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Liangent/wb-lang Molly White - Improve support for book structures http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare/Proposal Moriel Schottlender - MediaWiki VisualEditor RTL support http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Mooeypoo/GSOC_2013_Proposal:_RTL_Support_in_VisualEditor Nazmul Chowdhury - UploadWizard: Book upload customization http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rasel160/GSoC2013 Nilesh Chakraborty - Wikidata Entity Suggester http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nilesh.c/Entity_Suggester Or sagi - Android app for MediaWiki translation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Orsagi/GSoC_2013_proposal Petr Onderka - Incremental data dumps http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Svick/Incremental_dumps Pragun Bhutani - Mobilizing Wikidata http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Pragunbhutani/GSoC_2013_Proposal Praveen Singh - jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Prageck/GSoC_2013_Application Rahul Maliakkal - Pronunciation Recording Tool http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rahul21/Gsoc Richa Jain - Prototyping inline comments http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rjain/Proposal-Prototyping-inline-comments Rohan Verma - MediaWiki-Moodle extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2013 Tongbo Sui - VisualEditor plugin for source code http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Beanixster Yevheniy Vlasenko - Improvement of glossary tools http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Zhenya FOSS Outreach Program for Women http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women Katie Cunningham - The Tech Person's Education Primer http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:KatieIreneC#The_Tech_Person.27s_Education_Primer Rachel Thomas - Browser Test Automation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rachel99/OPW_proposal Thank you very much to ALL participants. Those that this time haven't been selected are invited to join the community as volunteers (more details in an email that you have probably received already). Also thank you very much to all the mentors for the work and big hep done so far. Although, you know, this only the beginning... :) More comments and data in a following email and a blog post coming soon. I will also update the wiki pages. Now... LET'S CELEBRATE! -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting a new language Wikipedia going...
On Monday, March 11, 2013, Tejaswini Niranjana wrote: > Dear Frederick, > It's nice to see your signature in several Indian languages! > > Wanted to know which script Konkani wikipedia is planning to use, > Devanagari or Kannada or both? It would be good if you could throw some > light on comparative statistics regarding how many Konkani speakers use > which script. > FYI, Many languages in MediaWiki has script variants with automatic script conversion. Here is my assessment on Konkani and technical instructions if somebody from Konkani community interested in this http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Automatic_conversion_in_Konkani_language Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Results of the Programme Director hiring for CIS's A2K programme
Thanks for the announcement. Jadine, can you also write a short note on the personal profile of Mr. Vishnu Vardhan? Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Welcome our six OPW interns!
-- Forwarded message -- From: Quim Gil Date: 2012/12/12 Subject: [Wikitech-l] Welcome our six OPW interns! To: Wikimedia developers I’m glad to announce that Kim Schoonover, Mariya Miteva, Priyanka Nag, Sucheta Ghoshal, Teresa Cho and Valerie Juarez will join the MediaWiki community as full-time interns between January and March 2013. They have been selected as part of the FLOSS Outreach Program for Women. Check the details at http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/12/11/welcome-to-floss-outreach-program-for-women-interns/ We wish a happy landing to our new interns and the best luck in their projects! You’ll be hearing more from them over the next few months. -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Live streaming of Erik Moeller's talk
The video is available at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6o0opiXmE Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Srikanth Lakshmanan to the i18n engineering team
Congrats Srikanth! -- Forwarded message -- From: Alolita Sharma Date: 2012/8/1 Subject: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Srikanth Lakshmanan to the i18n engineering team To: Wikimedia developers Hi All, Please join me in welcoming Srikanth Lakshmanan as outreach coordinator/QA engineer (contractor) in WMF’s Internationalization (i18n) / Localization (L10n) engineering team. As the team’s technical liaison, Srikanth will be actively reaching out and working with our language communities to get feedback on new i18n/L10n features being planned or rolled out to Wikimedia sites. Srikanth hails from Chennai, India. He has been a Wikipedian since 2006 and identifies himself as a wikignome (User:Logicwiki). Srikanth has provided language support for Tamil Wiki projects and loves to file bugs (and occasionally fix them) when he sees languages are not properly supported. Srikanth has recently revived his blogging habit at logic10.tumblr.com. His other interests include cycling, travelling in buses, playing table tennis (aka ping pong). Srikanth is excited to be able to contribute his tiny bit in making a sum of all human knowledge more accessible and helping build a more multilingual web! Check out some of his work on Tamil scripts and consonants at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Script#Consonants_of_Modern_Tamil Srikanth can be reached on email at slakshma...@wikimedia.org or as @srikanthlogic on our irc channels including #mediawiki, #wikimedia-dev and #mediawiki-i18n. Welcome Srikanth! It is great to have you on the i18n engineering team! -Alolita -- Alolita Sharma Director of Engineering Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] New Lohit fonts - Please test
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Rajesh Pandey wrote: >> The screenshot of the problem with page rendering can be viewed at >> http://imagebin.org/204475 Is it possible to mark the rendering errors with circles or underlines? I can then discuss with the Font developer and find out the issue. Thanks in advance. > and the problem with loading the woff files >> as viewed in the "Net" panel of the firebug extension can be viewed at >> http://imagebin.org/204476 Don't worry much about the Firebug showing multiple request entries and abort status. It is a bug with Firebug(see http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=4649) , not much serious since it is a developer tool. Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with the localization team tomorrow
Hi, A gentle reminder. The office hours is at 23:30 IST (18:00 UTC) Thanks Santhosh -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Walling Date: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM Subject: IRC office hours with the localization team, on International Mother Language Day To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Hi everyone, I just wanted to give some advance notice about IRC office hours with the localization team [1] at the Wikimedia Foundation, which will be aptly held on International Mother Language Day.[2] Date: 2011-02-21 Time: 18.00 UTC Venue: #wikimedia-office As usual, more logistical info and time conversion links are available on Meta.[3] For a taste of what the localization team has been up to, I highly recommend the blog posts they've been writing regularly.[4] Thanks, and we'll talk to you later this month! -- Steven Walling, Wikimedia Foundation 1. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localisation_team 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mother_Language_Day 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours 4. http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/features/internationalization-and-localization/ -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Christmas 2011 translatewiki.net Translation Rally
Translatewiki.net is is conducting a Translation Rally between 23 December 2011 12:00 UTC and 3 January 2012 24:00 UTC.. Among all users contributing 500 or more new translations to Wikipedia Mobile, Kiwix, MediaWiki core and MediaWiki extension used by Wikimedia, translatwiki.net will divide 1,000 Euro (approximately 1,308 US Dollar). The money comes from a grant by Wikimedia Nederland, the Dutch Wikimedia chapter and is facilitated by Stichting Open Progress. There were many winners from Indic languages last time. For more details please visit: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Project:Rally-2011-12 -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Please Welcome Yuvaraj Pandian & Max Semink
Congrats Yuvaraj Pandian! -santhosh -- Forwarded message -- From: Tomasz Finc Date: Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:58 PM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Please Welcome Yuvaraj Pandian & Max Semink To: wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia developers Greetings all, The Mobile and Special Projects department is pleased to announce the addition of two new contractors to the team: Yuvaraj Pandian and Max Seminik. Yuvaraj Pandian or Yuvi as we gotten to know him was one of our 2011 Google Summer of Code students. During GSoC he worked with Arthur Richards on porting the Wikipedia 1.0 bot to a PHP extension named Selection Sifter. This was in important offline project as it allowed us to better support and extend our offline tool chains. Previous to this he had been active in the busroutes.in community where users @logic and @planemad motivated him to come on and help the Wikimedia community. One of his early Wikimedia project memories includes the tawiki community discussing the ShortUrl extension. He found the entire channel so lively and helpful that he applied for GSoC. Yuvi will be working for us remotely while on a six month sabbatical from KCG College of Technology, India. He'll be extending the Android app, enhancing MobileFrontend, and working with our various offline efforts to further the reach of the projects. You can find him on irc under the nick 'yuviapanda' . Max Semink has been an active MediaWiki contributor since 2009. He's recently been most involved in developing the API Sandbox for MediaWiki. An extension that allows any user to easily create complex API queries through a visual interface. When not hacking on MediaWiki, Max has been busy developing C++ software for embedded systems in the railroad industry. While train switching has captured the majority of his recent developer cycles, he's super eager to change direction and focus his full time efforts on MediaWiki. Max will be continuing his interest in the API by helping us improve and extend its use within mobile. He'll be adding a proper API to MobileFrontend, extending support for GPS, and in general moving the API forward for our mobile clients. Max will be working for us remotely and can be found under the nick 'MaxSem' . It's great to be able to see two active community members be able to join us full time. Please join me in (re)-welcoming Yuvi and Max! --tomasz ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts on Mobile
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33176 has more details ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Shiju Alex wrote: > But these type of changes (like the change in shortcut key) which affect the > typing habit of users needs to be communicated to commuity (here Indic > wikimedians), at least in this list. No change in typing habit, it was just broken and not working in those browsers in OSX. We just made it working. We did not change any existing working key to an alternate key. On the other hand Keyboard layout change requests often comes through bugzilla from community and get reviewed by community. So its upto the community to update the documentation in local language. Anyway any changes that are not "fixes" will be communicated. Having said that there is a small user interface update coming tentatively next week's deployment - the menu will not be visible by moving the mouse over the links of webfonts and Narayam. Menu will be visible when user click on the links. You can see this change in translatewiki.net. There is also another update for Narayam, to make the menu position correct in LTR and RTL and to prevent it crossing screen width. It is a bug fix. These changes are applicable for both Narayam and Webfonts. Thanks Santhosh Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:40 PM, ePandit | ई-पण्डित wrote: > NoDerivs - Do the font need to be modified for using as web font? Yes, Derivative fonts in alternate formats need to be created from the original font. Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut key > is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut works. > Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon. > //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :) Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m. > There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so > If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3]. > > i18n team, > Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a > feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something > relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any > regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has > the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will > help and save much time for many folks. We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two days before deployment. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n Gerard blogs about the deployment , see http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and he plans to do this blog post for every deployment. If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FWebFonts gives all the code changes happened in webfonts. I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the changes for an extension/component Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at this tag: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy > To those communities which don't have any input method solution :- > Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team > will help you get Narayam. Happy to help. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-i18n/2011-December/000361.html >> >> "In order to force them, "if you don't test this it may break horribly >> for you when deployed" seems way more convincing than "no new goodies >> for you"." >> >> This attitude of i18n is not only very dangerous for the communities and >> languages but also very unprofessional. Please read that mail once again, this was a response by Platonides(not an i18n team member) to the comment by Srikanth L . Srikanth said: " If people are not interested to join them, they must be forced to join > them(by way of not supporting them/ deploying any component for the > language) so as to provide better support." And now you are saying that it is the attitude of i18n and calling it dangerous and unprofessional! Wonderful Ravishankar. >. Nothing that breaks > horrible must ever be deployed. We safeguarded Tamil(Malayalam folks did > theirs too), we frankly didnt care much for others before the launch. Srikanth, While I really appreciate the efforts you and Bala did with the testing and reporting bugs, this kind of comments really disappoint us. You are aware that the we were working round the clock to fix all the bugs within hours and we wrote the complete details in report. Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please stop exaggerating things? We did expect bugs when we do this kind of large scale deployment with too many languages, browsers, operating systems and we addressed each of the bugs within hours. Some of these bugs can be only detected when we expose the tool to a larger audience. You are aware of that. All the open bugs now present are are not in our control - Browser bugs and Fonts bug, we disabled them for time being. Please be constructive and help us as you were doing. We deserve some appreciation for what we are doing. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Karthik Nadar is in the banners!
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Swaroop Rao wrote: > BTW, I forgot to update; Patricia (from the fundraising team I suppose) just > told me that they're working on Debit card and other means of payment for > INR this year. Debit card payments are possible now, see http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1202_KN/en/US But the amount is shown in USD and not in INR. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] An Offline Wikipedia for the Aakaash Tablet?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Hisham wrote: > b) Need to establish a reasonable set of acceptable quality articles in > Indic languages (since Akash's remit is pan-India.) AFAIK, Akash is based on android and Indic language rendering support is not available so far. Anybody tried indic languages in Akash? -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting ready for production; help us with WebFonts
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > Hi, > Even though Tamil translation for Webfont was done, on retrospect, I had a > feeling if WebFonts is one extension that should not be translated at all. > (at least the interface messages, if not system messages) since the purpose > of the extension was to display legible text for a user who doesnt have > font, and translating the interface messages in a language user doesnt have > font, doesnt make sense. Correct me if am wrong. That is true for font menu, font names etc. But we have 2-3 messages about preference page entry, a reset menu item that we are sure that we can display using webfonts itself. Total 5 messages. Thanks Santhsoh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Help wanted: Wikimedia engineering/product hiring]
Original Message Subject: [Wikitech-l] Help wanted: Wikimedia engineering/product hiring From:"Erik Moeller" Date:Wed, June 29, 2011 7:24 am To: "Wikimedia developers" mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org -- Hello folks, we have 12 open positions in Wikimedia engineering right now, and a few more will go up in coming weeks. If you have connections, we'd appreciate your help hiring for these roles, forwarding this note to appropriate listservs, tweeting it, etc. The full listing is at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings , but here are some key roles that we need help with: 1) Product Managers: We're looking for great people to act as product owners for three very important initiatives: - New editor engagement: helping Wikimedia to attract, nurture and retain new contributors. - Analytics: supporting the development of systems and tools for measuring our impact. - Mobile: helping us reach hundreds of millions of people on mobile devices and engaging hundreds of thousands of them to contribute in useful ways. The product manager role at WMF entails grooming and prioritizing the product backlog, engaging with the Wikimedia community, commissioning and organizing research, hands-on testing, but also helping with across-the-board priorities triage for ongoing product development. These folks don't have to be product managers by trade, but they need to be comfortable negotiating compromise while holding the product vision. They need to treat engineers as equal partners, and be excellent communicators. Ideally they have strong domain expertise relevant to their focus area. We have two of these currently posted: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Product_Manager_(Features) http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Product_Manager_(Analytics) The mobile one will go up soon, and we'll refine the definition further. But please use these as reference points for now. 2) Analytics Engineers: We're hiring for two systems engineers to build out our analytics infrastructure. What exists so far is still fairly rudimentary, so we need to build scalable logging and tracking systems for various purposes, e.g. - geographic breakdown of access and editing activity - usage data for specific features; A/B testing of features - search activity, real-time editor retention measures, new activity visualizations, and more .. The ideal candidate here likely is someone who's very strong building out large scale distributed systems, and has experience with NoSQL technologies, distributed computing, etc. The relevant JD is here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Systems_Engineer_-_Data_Analytics 3) A strong QA Lead who can help us write and perform test plans with shoestring and duct tape, i.e. using a combination of test automation, work with outside vendors, and volunteer-driven testing to strengthen our product quality. The relevant JD is here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/QA_Lead 4) Strong frontend and backend engineers: for features development, code review, deployment and release management support, and so forth. Demonstrable open source experience is always a major plus, and while PHP is learnable, not being predisposed against it helps. :-) http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Software_Developer_Frontend_(General) http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Software_Developer_Backend_(General) Your outreach and support is always appreciated. All best, Erik -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] MediaWiki selects eight students for Google Summer of Code 2011
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/04/mediawiki-selects-8-students-gsoc-2011/ * Akshay Agarwal‘s “Account Creation, Login Screens and AJAX-ification of everything” (mentor: Brandon Harris) * Kevin Brown’s “Working Archival for Web References/Citations,” “to facilitate the archival of external links used as references in the English Wikipedia” (mentor: Neil Kandalgaonkar) * Devayon Das‘s “Improving Semantic Search/Semantic Query usability issues in SMW” (mentor: Markus Krötzsch) * Ankit Garg‘s “Semantic Schemas extension” (mentor: Yaron Koren) Salvatore Ingala‘s “AMICUS: Awesome Monolithic Infrastructure for Customization of User Scripts” (mentors: Brion Vibber and Max Semenik) * Aigerim Karabekova‘s “Extension Release Management” (mentors: Sam Reed, Priyanka Dhanda, and Chad Horohoe) * Yuvi Panda‘s “Making Offline Wikipedia Article Selection Easier with Mediawiki Extensions” (mentor: Arthur Richards) * Zhenya Vlasyenko‘s “MediaWiki Extension: SocialProfile – UserStatus feature” (mentor: Jack Phoenix) Out of 8, 4 students are from India!. Congrats and best wishes to Akshay Agarwal , Yuvi Panda, Devayon Das and Ankit Garg. Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia
Hi, URL shortners will not improve the search hits. The above solution allows one to share the non latin wiki url using English alphabets and Arabic numerals. Personally I would prefer a URL I can remember and it should help me to identify to where it is pointing without clicking on it. http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mango clearly tells me that it is a Malayalam wiki page about Mango http://tawp.in/r/262 does not give that information to me. But that is just a personal comment. Srikanth mentioned a valid issue related to search engine optimization with Indian wikis. I dont get any result for this query: "Malayalam + Mango " to take me to Mango article in Malayalam wiki. Because there is no way a search engine can index the word Mango in english to the Malayalam wiki page of Mango. Having Mango in URL does not help search engines. I know some SEO tricks used by Malayalam news portals to address this. They use Meta tag efficiently and put english and malayalam keywords associated with the article. For eg: a news article about Mullapperiyar Dam will contain a meta tag with keywords "മുല്ലപ്പെരിയാര് ഡാം, mullapperiyar dam, " Some of the news portals even integrated this trick their news publishing workflow with custom plugins to CMS systems(like Drupal). If we want to get people searching in English to our wiki articles, we can think about a Meta tag solution - some extension that injects keywords to meta tag. Don't we need to point show ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kochi if one search for Kochi? atleast within first 10 results? (Sorry if I hijacked the thread, we may start another thread if we want to discuss this further) Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikisa-l] Sanskrit wikisource is created
On Tue, March 22, 2011 8:28 pm, Shiju Alex wrote: > Dear All, [...] > finally the wiki is created on *2011 March 18* > <http://sa.wikisource.org/>. > It is available here: http://sa.wikisource.org > > Most of the text from Old Wikisource <http://wikisource.org> is already > migrated to this new wikisource <http://sa.wikisource.org>. A cleanup is > required in the wiki. I request Sanskrit wiki community to take of your > wiki > project. The Hindu reports this news: Sanskrit finds its way into Wikisource http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/article1570050.ece Thanks Santhosh Thottingal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia rises on mobile usage in India
On Tue, March 8, 2011 2:33 pm, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Wikipedia Rises on mobile usage in India >> See > > http://www.medianama.com/2011/03/223-opera-jan-2011-wikipedia-rises-mobile2day-emerges-getjar-zedge-decline/ > > > ".. Wikipedia has been the highest gainer, up three positions from last > time.." Even though we don't have enough data on Indic language usage with Opera Mini, I want to add one point here. Opera Mini provides a server side rendering for complex scripts for eg. Indic languages. I know many users of this feature. Considering the high cost of mobiles that can render Indic content properly(iphone, Maemo), this server side rendering feature provides a way to 'read' Indic content in any low cost-average cost mobile phones. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia rises on mobile usage in India
On Tue, March 8, 2011 2:33 pm, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Wikipedia Rises on mobile usage in India >> See > > http://www.medianama.com/2011/03/223-opera-jan-2011-wikipedia-rises-mobile2day-emerges-getjar-zedge-decline/ > > > ".. Wikipedia has been the highest gainer, up three positions from last > time.." Even though we don't have enough data on Indic language usage with Opera Mini, I want to add one point here. Opera Mini provides a server side rendering for complex scripts for eg. Indic languages. I know many users of this feature. Considering the high cost of mobiles that can render Indic content properly(iphone, Maemo), this server side rendering feature provides a way to 'read' Indic content in any low cost-average cost mobile phones. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] New members of Language committee
On Tue, March 1, 2011 1:13 pm, BalaSundaraRaman wrote: > Congrats, Santhosh. Thanks! > What are the functions of a language committee member? You may refer http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Indian language wikipedias – 2010 statistical report
Hi, Shiju Alex have prepared a very detailed and informative report based on the statistics of Indian wikipedia projects between 2010 Jan 1 and 2010 Dec 31. You can read it here http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/indian-language-wikipedias-2010-statistical-report/ The numbers give many valuable inputs for the future activities of wikipedia in Indian Languages. Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Tamil collation
Since there are Tamil developers and speakers in this list, I invite their attention to this blog post : http://thottingal.in/blog/2011/02/26/tamil-collation-in-glibc/ Need some help from Tamil community on collation rules to fix a bug pending for a long time in GNU C library locale data. Thanks Santhosh Thottingal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode
On Thu, February 24, 2011 9:15 am, Nikhil Sheth wrote: > Great discussion, but I wonder why I didn't see any real, easy, doable, > inexpensive, quickfix solution put forth that every Indian on the internet > can begin using immediately to get around the Unicode Vs custom Fonts > issue. Nikhil, all those tools you mentioned are for Transliteration based input methods. And *proprietary* solutions. But in any modern free desktop distributions - whether it is ubuntu, debian, fedora or any other distro, you have lot of inputs methods to select. All of these get installed in default installation itself and you can choose transliteration based input method or inscript or any input method which fits our "laziness-to-learn". And if you are too lazy to learn any key combination, for that also we have offline desktop based solutions which can do suggestions, give drop down list of alternatives etc. (see http://thottingal.in/blog/2008/10/27/swanalekha-m17n-based-input-method-for-11-languages/) Just give a try on the various input methods available in a latest GNU/Linux distro for your language. If none fits, let the foss developers know what exactly you are looking for. You will surely get a solution. And it is worth to spent some time to learn one standard keyboard layout for your language. You learned to write(using pen) by spending some amount of time right? in Kerala, students at 7th standard learns typing in Malayalam. Once our language syllabus on other languages accept this model, I am sure that every student will be good in writing and typing in their language. Language proficiency will be measured as read+write+type+speak in future. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Gautam John wrote: > Data usage: Use of Unicode will significantly reduce bandwidth/storage This is technically wrong if we are comparing with ASCII encoded data. If you read the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode article, you can understand that the indic letter അ (unicode) requires more bytes than a single English letter "A" Each Unicode character is multi-byte character while in ASCII, it is single byte. > Search (within a page/web search etc.) This is not comparable since search is not possible in ascii font way of representing data. Since the data is not in Hindi , but we just "see" as Hindi, one cannot do a search or any such data processing on that data. -Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gautam John wrote: > 2. Given that we publish in Indian languages, using Unicode fonts are > the only way to achieve cross-platform interoperability and is a > global standard. > 3. Given India's push towards copyright reform for the print impaired, > it is imperative that Unicode fonts be used in the creation of Indic > content because it is otherwise a huge barrier to conversion to > print-friendly formats. > 4. Unicode, being an open global standard guarantees content > accessibility in the future and ensures no proprietary font and vendor > lock in. I think you have some confusion on Unicode and Fonts. Let me try to clarify in simple words. Unicode is an encoding standard. it says how a 'letter' is represented by a group of bits or bytes. And it ensures a uniqueness for each of the letters across thousands of languages in the world. Fonts are just "clothes" for these data. sometimes optimized for web, sometimes for print. sometimes fancy... Data can exist without fonts too. Only thing is one cannot "see" the data properly.or you see them naked(as question marks, squares or raw code points depending on your operating system environment) So if you say 'using unicode fonts for indic content", it does not make sense. we cannot represent or "store" data in fonts. or when you say "unicode fonts are the only way to achieve interoperability:, it is wrong since it is "encoding standard" makes interoperability possible. Unicode data does not have dependency on the font. Font is users choice and it is at readers side. But I know that many people still use the term "data in unicode fonts", data in xyz font etc. This usage came into existence just because, before unicode was popular, most of the Indian publishers used a non-standard way of representing our data- using English(or latin -ascii) data and change the font's 'face' to Indian glyph. "a fancy dress" hack. The letter "k" will be shown as hindi "ka" with the help of a font. ie the data is still english, but what you "see" is Hindi. Obviously the data cannot be presented to anybody without this "special clothes". If you get this data and don't have the associated font, what you see will be just some junk latin characters. Many publishers created their own fonts with this technique in their own way. So to send some data to your friend, you need to tell him that, hey, this data is in Sree Font.. this data is in Kathika font etc. Even after Unicode is popular, a very small percentage of publishers moved to Unicode, and others still continue with ASCII font dependent data. If one uses Unicode, no need to mention about font. One can read it using a good "unicode compatible" font of his/her choice. So "data is in unicode encoding" is correct. "data is in unicode font" is wrong. "data can be viewed using any unicode compatible font" is correct. I hope it is clear. > 5. The limitation is on the lack of high quality and varied typefaces > that are both screen and print optimised open type Indic Unicode > fonts. This is true. Fonts exist for all scripts , but the variety , or quality of the existing fonts varies. Availability of fonts licensed in foss compatible license is also a problem. For a detailed list of Indic fonts with license info, see http://indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/IndicFontsList > 6. Given the importance of linguistic diversity to India's cultural > heritage, it is imperative that greater attention is paid to the > development of such fonts under licenses that allow for free re-use > and to fix issues in the fonts that might arise. You are correct. I would say "fonts licensed under any FOSS license" instead of "free use/reuse". > 7. The Govt. should fund the open development of at least 5 such fonts > for each the 21 Constitutionally recognised languages and make these > available not just for free, but under free license to re-use and > improve as well. You got it. But history shows that such funding did not play much role in development of the fonts listed here: http://indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/IndicFontsList In fact, the funds were spent(read wasted) for the development of Proprietary fonts by government agencies like CDAC. Fonts with free(dom) licenses were developed and maintained by FOSS developer communities. Thanks Santhosh Thottingal http://thottingal.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] PDF rendering of Indian language wiki pages
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, sankarshan wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Santhosh Thottingal > wrote: > >> Just wanted to give an early preview of this software library through >> an online interface : http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render >> You can try with a Wikipedia page in your language and verify the generated >> PDF. >> You can also access this using this URL >> http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render?wiki=http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/இலங்கை >> (replace that wiki URL with other page addresses too - any Ianguage - >> not limited to Indian languages) > > Nice work Santhosh ! Can I request that you provide a way for users to > email their feedback to the developers using some template ? This > would allow you to obtain some test-cases/test-pages which can be used > in further releases to check for regressions. Sure. Just added link to the bug tracker of pypdflib project, email address pypdflib-...@nongnu.org (for those who are reluctant to file a bug report) to the online interface in silpa project(http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render). Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] PDF rendering of Indian language wiki pages
Hi, Thanks for all comments.We will add bug reports on each of these comments with a reference to this mail thread in our bug/task tracker. I will post the updates on the project. If anybody interested to join our team, this is our mailing list : http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pypdflib-dev You can also post your comments to pypdflib-...@nongnu.org Thanks Santhosh Thottingal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] PDF rendering of Indian language wiki pages
On Tue, February 15, 2011 3:44 am, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Anyways, perhaps it doesn't know to play nicely with the https > (secured) or just does not want to play with hindi or those particular > pages. Shirish, secure access to wikipedia is not need here(and not supported as of now). It is just anonymous read on a wiki page from our server. Just try with normal http url http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render?wiki=http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/धर्म Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] PDF rendering of Indian language wiki pages
Hi, We are working on a Complex script PDF rendering library named PyPDFLib(https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pypdflib/). One of its test case (or use case) is to render a wiki page in complex script(any Indian Language) to PDF. Currently PDF export feature is not available(not working) for Indian language wiki projects because of technical incapability of Python Reportlab library. Just wanted to give an early preview of this software library through an online interface : http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render You can try with a Wikipedia page in your language and verify the generated PDF. You can also access this using this URL http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render?wiki=http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/இலங்கை (replace that wiki URL with other page addresses too - any Ianguage - not limited to Indian languages) There are lot of items not implemented, but your feedback is requested on the current version. The library uses Pango for text rendering and Cairo for graphics and PDF features. ps: Don't get surprised if you get a 500 Error page for the random page you are trying. Just try another wiki page ;) Thanks Santhosh Thottingal http://thottingal.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] :The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:38 PM, BalaSundaraRaman wrote: > My guess is that it is 100% possible, Gerard. I proposed doing this for > Konkani, Kashmiri, and if at all acceptable, for Punjabi. > Chinese wikipedia allows a logged in user to select a variant of scripts zh-* using their preferences page. See http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:%E5%8F%82%E6%95%B0%E8%AE%BE%E7%BD%AE Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese I think , Konkani , Kashmiri and Panjabi languages can consider this option. Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] GSOC 2011
Google has announced GSoC2011. http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/01/google-summer-of-code-announced-at-lca.html The timeline is here: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/timeline This is a very good opportunity for students to participate and showcase their skills. Read the above links for more details. As you can read from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2011 Mediawiki plans to participate in GSOC 2011. So students or mentors having wonderful project ideas to improve mediawiki, please add here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2011/Project_ideas Thanks Santhosh Thottingal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Unicode compatibility
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I know that there are people who will be interested and able to comment.. > Thanks, Malayalam Wikipedia is _not_ 100% compatible with any Unicode version. It uses a partial implementation of Unicode 5.1(or 6.0). Thanks Santhosh Thottingal http://thottingal.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages & unicode issues.
> Update: A Tamil Wikipedian, Mahir, went to the core of the issue that I > cited in > my previous email and identified that the issue in that instance was due > to the > superfluous use of the zero width non-joiner HTML entity. We're going to > file a > bug asking Mediwiki to chomp those entities when they occur in > inappropriate > places. Qn: Definition for "inappropriate places"? Ans: Wikipedia URLs should be considered as "identifiers" and should use Unicode standard for Identifier definition using unicode data. Unicode Standard Annex #31 defines this clearly. http://unicode.org/reports/tr31/ IMHO, Mediawiki should implement this standard. But for Tamil, I am not aware of any valid pattern where ZWJ or ZWNJ is valid. I am aware of valid patterns for other Indian languages. So in that case we should remove all zwj,zwnj from Tamil urls. Sometime back, the inbuilt tool in Malayalam wiki used to allow putting n number of zwj in text and we corrected the script to disallow user to put more than one zwj, zwnj in sequence(this is what UAX #31 says too). Thanks Santhosh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages & unicode issues.
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:43 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Hi all, > Happened to see Gerard's blog post on issues with Malayalam Wikipedia > & Unicode upgrade to > 5.1 http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/12/malayalam-enigma.html The issue is very complex. There were heated debates around this topic in Unicode Indic Mailing list for years. In short the issue is about dual encoding- representing a letter using two types of unicode character codes. Unicode's decision to bring the second encoding in standard was widely debated and opposed mainly by FOSS developer community from Malayalam. Unicode announced the dual encoding scheme without canonical equivalence definition in 2005 and reverted it when scholars and developers opposed it. The same proposal again introduced. Foss community, language scholars protested the proposal. The SMC community submitted a document with 17 reasons why dual encoding should not be introduced.- see http://wiki.smc.org.in/images/2/23/SMC_Unicode_5.1.pdf Similarly a seminar conducted to discuss the issue by University of Kerala opposed the proposal. see http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080131071131/fci/images/1/19/Report_of_Workshop.pdf But Unicode technical consortium did not bother to answer both of these reports and went ahead with the decision in Unicode 5.1. The dual encoding scheme is with out any canonical equivalence definition. Since it is not there in standard I doubt whether Operating systems will implement it, not to mention about search engines. Since the new encoding scheme is defined without backward compatibility, or against unicode's stability policy, Malayalam FOSS community decided not to implement it until issues are resolved and continuing with unicode 5.0 encoding. Malayalam news portals also follow unicode 5.0. Most of the tools from Google also continue with unicode 5.0 based encoding. Malayalam wikipedia decided to go ahead with latest version of unicode. I had resisted this move in the discussion pages of Malayalam wikipedia. The decision was taken based on voting by a small community of editors and not based on proper technical analysis. Believe it or not, this is how Malayalam wiki is rendered inWindows XP IE 8 box with OS default font: http://thottingal.in/tmp/ml-wiki-winxp-IE8.png I hope it gives some clue about the issue that Gerard mentioned. Most of the discussions happened around the encoding issue was in Malayalam(in Malayalam wiki or in blogs), but this English blog post might summarize it http://www.j4v4m4n.in/2009/11/07/unicode-or-malayalam/ Discussions happened in Malayalam wikipedia(content in Malayalam language) http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/വിക്കിപീഡിയ:പഞ്ചായത്ത്_(സാങ്കേതികം)/യൂണികോഡ്_5.1.0/ചർച്ച_(പഴയവ) Thanks Santhosh Thottingal http://thottingal.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
