Re: [Wikimediauk-l] TLS review of Jack Lynch, You Could Look It Up

2016-05-26 Thread Andrew Gray
The Thonemann article turns out to be public (about a third of TLS
articles are):

http://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/encyclopedic-knowledge/

I rather enjoyed this -

"Given the manner of its compilation, the accursed thing really is a
whole lot more reliable than it has any right to be. Like many
university lecturers, I used to warn my own students off using
Wikipedia (as pointless an injunction as telling them not to use
Google, or not to leave their essay to the last minute). I finally
gave up doing so about three years ago, after reading a paper by an
expert on South Asian coinage in which the author described the
Wikipedia entry on the Indo-Greek Kingdom (c.200 BC–AD 10) as the most
reliable overview of Indo-Greek history to be found anywhere – quite
true, though not necessarily as much of a compliment to Wikipedia as
you might think."

Andrew.

On 26 May 2016 at 11:56, Charles Matthews
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> Enjoyable two-page review today in the Times Literary Supplement by Peter
> Thonemann, flagged on the front page as "The triumph of Wikipedia?"
>
> Lynch's book You Could Look It Up has the subtitle "The reference shelf from
> ancient Babylon", and WP is duly mentioned in the review at length, with
> Rich Farmbrough getting a namecheck.
>
> Thonemann is at Wadham College, Oxford, and gives good quotes: e.g.
> "Wiki-editors are, in my experience, an exceptionally friendly and helpful
> bunch".
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day tomorrow

2015-12-31 Thread Andrew Gray
The "German focus" is no doubt partly down to better metadata in
Wikidata, but also ties into something I spotted years ago -
proportionally more notable people in dewiki died in 1945 than in
enwiki. http://www.generalist.org.uk/blog/2010/demographics-in-wikipedia/

Making the reasonable assumption that demographic skews in dewiki
represent a German bias, it's easy to see why - the entire country was
variously in a state of war, occupation, starvation and/or general
upheaval that year, so you'd expect a higher mortality rate compared
to most other places, even leaving aside the effect of "war deaths"
per se.

I haven't rerun this with Wikidata data (where we can use nationality
rather than language-of-article) but suspect you'd see a similar
thing. Next year (2017, for 1946 deaths) should be somewhat more
balanced.

Andrew.

On 31 December 2015 at 11:17, Charles Matthews
<charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> On 31 December 2015 at 08:12 geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Partial list of works that will hit the public domain at midnight tonight
> can be found at:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_in_public_domain
>
> That said this will have a fairly limited impact on wikipedia due to issues
> with US copyright laws.
>
> Thanks. The impact on Commons and Wikisource is typically more noticeable.
>
> Some thoughts.
>
> I was looking around on Wikidata: generating lists of creators of works with
> death dates in a given year, and associated with a given country, is a
> natural task for it. From a Wikisource point of view, authors who write in a
> given language is relevant, and there was a game created a couple of months
> ago to fill in the corresponding data - seems not to be online right now,
> though.
>
> My first pass at authors dying in 1945 yielded 103, as opposed to the 72 or
> so in the enWP page you give. (Those are mostly writing in German, which is
> probably more to do with attention paid to the "occupation" field than
> anything else.)
>
> This business was discussed earlier in the year: the old thread at
>
> http://wikimediauk-l.wikimedia.narkive.com/4nyiV2zt/wikidata-training-session
>
> contains contributions from Andrew Gray, in particular a query using
> subclasses of "author" which is certainly a good idea. But artists are also
> relevant.
>
> A heavyweight SPARQL query that factored in the various copyright
> jurisdictions would be a project I'd like to see done, of course. [1] is a
> bare bones "humans who died in 1945" query, which should bring up about
> 10,000 hits.
>
> Charles
>
> [1]
> https://query.wikidata.org/#PREFIX%20wikibase%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwikiba.se%2Fontology%23%3E%0APREFIX%20wd%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2F%3E%20%0APREFIX%20wdt%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fdirect%2F%3E%0A%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3Flast_time%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%7B%0A%09%09%09SELECT%20%3Fitem%20(MAX(%3Ftime0)%20AS%20%3Flast_time)%20%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%09%09%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20.%0A%20%20%09%09%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP570%20%3Ftime0%20.%0A%20%20%09%09%09FILTER%20(%20%3Ftime0%20%3E%3D%20%221945-01-01T00%3A00%3A00Z%22%5E%5Exsd%3AdateTime%20%26%26%20%3Ftime0%20%3C%3D%20%221945-12-31T00%3A00%3A00Z%22%5E%5Exsd%3AdateTime%20)%20.%0A%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%0A%20%20%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%0A%7D%20ORDER%20BY%20ASC%20(%3Flast_time)
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gender Balance (MySociety)

2015-10-05 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi Richard,

I've been talking to EveryPolitician about this. Matching to Wikidata
will pose something of a challenge but we're on it :-)

A.

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> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone else seen the email from MySociety about the Gender Balance game
> they've created? See
> https://www.mysociety.org/2015/07/30/introducing-gender-balance-the-game-that-sorts-the-women-from-the-boys/
> for more about it.
>
> It appears they also have a database which we may be free to upload to
> Wikidata...
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Talk-GB] Environment Agency LIDAR datasets OGL licensed now available

2015-10-02 Thread Andrew Gray
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Spam] 2016 in public domain

2015-08-07 Thread Andrew Gray
There's 2087 entries on Wikidata for people who died in 1945 and have
an occupation which is some kind of 'creator' (though due to a quirk
of the Wikidata hierarchy, that seems to include scientists +
engineers)

http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=between%5B570%2C1945-01-01%2C1945-12-31%5D%20and%20claim%5B106%3A(tree%5B2500638%5D%5B%5D%5B279%5D)%5D

For authors + subclasses thereof it's a more manageable 636:

http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=between%5B570%2C1945-01-01%2C1945-12-31%5D%20and%20claim%5B106%3A%28tree%5B482980%5D%5B%5D%5B279%5D%29%5D

No major British names leap out from a quick skim through.

Andrew.

On 7 August 2015 at 22:12, leu...@fabiant.eu leu...@fabiant.eu wrote:
 Hi all,

 Last year there was  2015 in public domain and now we have  2016 in public
 domain . . .  but it only has one entry.

 I would be interested to know if anyone else is interested in working on
 this and perhaps organising something for Public Domain Day, or perhaps an
 event later in January when people have recovered from the holiday.

 Personally I am particularly interested in the work of the encyclopedist
 Otto Neurath.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Reducing the copyright term for (some) unpublished works

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

Some initial thoughts at
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/2039_consultation - comments
appreciated.

Andrew.

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 The government is currently consulting on reducing the copyright term
 in some unpublished material - this is the 2039 problem that a
 number of institutions have been raising in recent weeks, where
 unpublished works can be in copyright until 2039 despite being
 potentially several centuries old.

 https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/reducing-the-duration-of-copyright-in-certain-unpublished-works

 This seems like something where WMUK should submit a response (we have
 a pretty clear interest in rationalising the regulations here).
 Deadline is a month away so we've got some time to think about it.

 I'm happy to draft up some notes for us to send in if no-one else is
 putting something together - have we been looking at this already?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [okfn-discuss] ToS; DR Meetup, London, Wednesday

2014-11-07 Thread Andrew Gray
Forwarding in case this is of interest.

Andrew.

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Subject: [okfn-discuss] ToS;DR Meetup, London, Wednesday
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Interested in creating open data about online rights? ToS;DR ('Terms
of Service; Didn't Read'), a user initiative to rate and label terms
of service and privacy policies, are having a meetup and hackathon in
London on Wednesday.

Details: https://tosdr.org/conf/london201411.html

If you're free all afternoon, from 12:00, there will be a meetup of
the Open Notice / Kantara CISWG discussing related issues.
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/nov-5-cis-kanataraopen-noticetosdr-meetup-mozilla-lonodn-tickets-13433862043

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[Wikimediauk-l] Reducing the copyright term for (some) unpublished works

2014-11-07 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

The government is currently consulting on reducing the copyright term
in some unpublished material - this is the 2039 problem that a
number of institutions have been raising in recent weeks, where
unpublished works can be in copyright until 2039 despite being
potentially several centuries old.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/reducing-the-duration-of-copyright-in-certain-unpublished-works

This seems like something where WMUK should submit a response (we have
a pretty clear interest in rationalising the regulations here).
Deadline is a month away so we've got some time to think about it.

I'm happy to draft up some notes for us to send in if no-one else is
putting something together - have we been looking at this already?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Magna Carta

2014-11-06 Thread Andrew Gray
I'm not so sure. The article is 7000 words long, with densely-written and
relatively technical content, and needs a comprehensive overhaul - it's the
sort of thing that rewards work by one or two people with a good overview
and a few days reading, rather than fifty people with small contributions.
Inviting people to contribute to something with very little entry-level
potential seems likely to just end in frustration for all concerned.

Trying a call to action seems a good idea, but probably better for
something else...

A.

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wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I really like Ed's point that this is a good PR opportunity. If anyone is
 interested in putting together some details and a potential media pitch
that
 would be excellent!

 Thank you,

 Stevie

 On 5 November 2014 12:11, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

 Dear Rod,

 We did indeed have a resident at the British Library, and some ongoing
 discussions and events with them, including an event last Friday. At the
 moment we are focussed on some large image releases and a major tagging
 exercise to identify old maps which will then be loaded on Commons.

 But it would be worth thinking of further projects, though at least for
 this month I'd like to focus what we are doing with BL on certain mass
 uploads.

 Do people think that Magna Carta would be a good subject for a Wiki
 wednesday session - bringing few editors together on a Wednesday evening
in
 our office in London?

 Regards


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 An article in this weeks observer (see

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/nov/01/magna-carta-800-celebrates-anniversary
 ) points out that it will be the 800th anniversary of the signing of the
 Magna Carta next year (15 June 2015) and suggests there will be various
TV
 and radio programmes (and books etc) to coincide with the significant
date.
 I note this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta )
regularly
 gets 150,000+ page views per month and this is likely to increase. It
was
 listed as a Good Article back in the early days but was delisted in
2006 and
 has gone downhill since then. It is also listed on the Vital Articles
for
 Society and Social Sciences. A few of us are trying to get it to at
least GA
 or even FA standard before the anniversary – any help would be
appreciated.



 The specific reason for this email is that I think WikimediaUK had some
 sort of relationship (possibly a wikimedian in residence or similar)
with
 the British Library years ago. For that or other sources does anyone
have a
 contact within the appropriate department (possibly manuscripts curator
or
 similar) of the BL who would be willing to help advise on the
development of
 this important article?



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Magna Carta

2014-11-05 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi Rod,

That was indeed me... we did do a bit of work with the BL MSS
department (the great work was done before I came, though - John Byrne
and his work on the Cuthbert Gospel). I think I could probably
persuade someone to do a review and feedback, especially if we've done
a chunk of the reworking before then.

Someone looked at the MC article some years ago with a view to
reworking it - there's some detailed notes in Archive 2 which seem to
be the discussion I remember. There appears to be a lot of tension
between MC as historic event/artifact, MC as legal history, and
MC as living law, all of which are dealt with in the article but may
not sit comfortably against each other.

A.

On 5 November 2014 11:04, Rod Ward rodw...@plus.net wrote:
 Hi all,



 An article in this weeks observer (see
 http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/nov/01/magna-carta-800-celebrates-anniversary
 ) points out that it will be the 800th anniversary of the signing of the
 Magna Carta next year (15 June 2015) and suggests there will be various TV
 and radio programmes (and books etc) to coincide with the significant date.
 I note this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta ) regularly
 gets 150,000+ page views per month and this is likely to increase. It was
 listed as a Good Article back in the early days but was delisted in 2006 and
 has gone downhill since then. It is also listed on the Vital Articles for
 Society and Social Sciences. A few of us are trying to get it to at least GA
 or even FA standard before the anniversary – any help would be appreciated.



 The specific reason for this email is that I think WikimediaUK had some sort
 of relationship (possibly a wikimedian in residence or similar) with the
 British Library years ago. For that or other sources does anyone have a
 contact within the appropriate department (possibly manuscripts curator or
 similar) of the BL who would be willing to help advise on the development of
 this important article?



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Free journal access through The Wikipedia Library: new pilots

2014-04-29 Thread Andrew Gray
...in most areas, at least. Thirteen out of 194 public library
services don't subscribe to the ODNB:

Aberdeen Central Library
Bridgend Library and Information Service
Caerphilly Libraries
Carmarthen Library
Conwy County Borough Council
East Sussex Libraries
Inverclyde Libraries
Isle of Anglesey Library Service
Neath Port Talbot Libraries
North Tyneside Libraries
Rotherham Libraries
South Lanarkshire Libraries
South Tyneside Libraries

http://global.oup.com/fdscontent/academic/xls/online_products/Online%20Oxford%20resources%20in%20UKPL.xls

- though note that in some cases, you may be able to get access via a
neighbouring area if you're registered there.

Andrew.

On 29 April 2014 12:13, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 28 April 2014 18:16, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

 In case you've missed it, here's your chance to access Oxford University
 Press and Royal Society sources. I've found the Oxford Dictionary of
 National Biography particularly useful in the past.


 The ODNB is fantastically useful for UK and British Empire history; worth
 remarking in the UK context that here all you need for free access is a
 library card (not everyone knows that, it seems).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Advocacy Advisors] EU copyright consultation deadline has beenextended

2014-02-04 Thread Andrew Gray
In my infinite competence, I apparently missed that section entirely.
Apologies :-)

A.

On 4 February 2014 15:26, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 I changed the schedule yesterday morning- where are you looking?

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=European_Commission_copyright_consultationdiff=prevoldid=7334381

 Luis


 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk
 wrote:

 Quick query - given the extensions, have we filed the WMF submission
 yet or are we holding off for further comments through February? Not
 clear from the meta page...

 A.

 On 31 January 2014 23:25, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
  Thanks for the update. Not sure how terrific I find that news,
  personally,
  given that I have spent around 20 hours over the last two days working
  to
  meet the original deadline!
 
  Best regards
 
  Michael
 
 
  
  Michael Maggs
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  That's terrific to hear!
 
  As an update on my end, I've done up to question 71, so this gives us a
  little more time to review and flesh those out.
 
  [For what it is worth, Michael, looking at the page here shows:
 
  From 05.12.2013 to 05.03.2014 (deadline extended).
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-29 Thread Andrew Gray
The average time it takes me to redeem an Amazon voucher is under a month.
I can say from experience I hang on to John Lewis vouchers for a lot longer
before needing to buy a cushion ;)

I agree with that Amazon vouchers are potentially problematic, but they're
also a lot more useful than many other options due to sheer ubiquity, and I
think people appreciate the sense that they can be used for books  don't
require offline use. It's a trade-off...

A.
On 27 Nov 2013 14:39, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 27 November 2013 14:18, Richard Symonds
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
  To be fair, I will be moving away from Amazon for day-to-day purchases
 after
  watching Panorama last night... it's not really feasible to move away
 from
  Amazon vouchers, but I will definitely look into how we might be able to.

 I have always been against giving Amazon vouchers. If you have to use
 vouchers, then employee-owned organizations like John-Lewis are always
 going to be a more ethical purchase.

 The TV programme was entertainment, not an analysis. Amazon did not
 get an opportunity to respond. In particular having been a quality
 manager for factory floor production, using basic statistical process
 control for optimizing batch pick time is not in the least bit
 unreasonable. Bizarrely worker break times were not mentioned (nobody
 works a 10 hour shift without multiple reasonable breaks), neither was
 the very fair process for allocating and rewarding night-work shifts.
 I don't know why anyone would pick stock in areas where the light were
 out, this was plainly a stupid thing to do, and the floor manager at
 the time should have asked staff to not do that and defer those jobs
 until the electrician had fixed those problems.

 It may be worth asking Amazon for a direct statement about how they
 respond to the criticism (from a single contract employee and from
 haphazardly self-selected ex-employees, that the programme was almost
 entirely based on).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Grade II buildings (was english heritage)

2013-10-13 Thread Andrew Gray
It's on the Wikidata roadmap, it's just not there yet. No need for a
second development project :-)

Phase 1 was interwikis, Phase 2 was being able to pull data out and
display it in infoboxes etc, Phase 3 is being able to generate lists
for a specific property or combination of properties.

In an ideal world, we'd have [[List of listed buildings in Newtown,
Loamshire]] with some general text and then a function asking Wikidata
for a table with one line per entity, displaying these properties,
and including every entity with status:listed_building and
location:Newtown_Loamshire

A.

On 13 October 2013 19:26, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Being able to use WD-generated lists will be a very different
 ballpark, but as that software doesn't really exist yet... ;-)


 Is this something for the list of Wikimedia-related tech tools someone
 ought to build really?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Alastair McCapra's conflict of loyalties between CIPR and WMUK

2013-10-06 Thread Andrew Gray
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[Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?

2013-09-17 Thread Andrew Gray
One trivial note (not affecting the actual text) - remember 3D and 2D will
be a lot more easily understood than 3d and 2d, which parse as third,
second.

Looking at the document ... is there a reason the numbers aren't flush with
the lines they refer to? It seems a little odd to have.

1.
Do step 1.

2.
Do the next step

rather than

1. Do step 1.

2. Do the next step.

Other small issues:

* There are some weird linebreaks on p11.
* We switch between Non-commercial (p12) and Non-Commercial (p10)
* Can we add links under the three CC licenses listed on p10? They're
relatively human-readable - eg creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

Andrew.

On Tuesday, 17 September 2013, Stevie Benton wrote:

 Thanks Jonathan. Before I go through the awkward job of tinkering with the
 InDesign file, what do other people think about the revision?

 Thank you,

 Stevie


 On 17 September 2013 12:47, Jonathan Cardy 
 jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Thanks all,

 *Possible revised wording with examples from the borderline and less
 repetition.
 *
 *
 UK Freedom of panorama*

  Under UK law, you can photograph, upload and share with the world a
 photo of any 3d artifact such as a building or sculpture that is
 permanently publicly displayed in the UK, even if the object is still under
 copyright.  But you need to check four things:
 1 Is it permanently on display? Temporary exhibits such as on the fourth
 plinth in Trafalgar square  are not included, but the Angel of the North is.
 2 When you took the photograph were you somewhere normally open to the
 public? Inside a pub or museum is fine, where you work or were a guest
 probably isn't.
 3 Was it 3d not 2d? Buildings and sculpture are 3d, graffiti, paintings
 and signs are 2d. So a photograph of stained glass illuminated by light
 shining through it is 3d, but the same stained glass window reflecting your
 flash at night is 2d and might still be under copyright.
 4 Did you take the photo in the UK? Most other countries have stricter
 rules.


 Regards


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 Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!)
 Wikimedia UK
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 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
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 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
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 On 17 September 2013 11:43, Stevie Benton 
 stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Thanks again everyone for all of your input. As there is still some
 correspondence going around the booklet I'm going to leave it open for
 comments until 12pm tomorrow. At that point, I plan to close the discussion
 and prepare a final proof before sending to the printers and uploading to
 Commons.

 Thank you,

 Stevie


 On 17 September 2013 10:40, Edward Hands edwar...@gmail.com wrote:

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[Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?

2013-09-17 Thread Andrew Gray
One trivial note (not affecting the actual text) - remember 3D and 2D will
be a lot more easily understood than 3d and 2d, which parse as third,
second.

Looking at the document ... is there a reason the numbers aren't flush with
the lines they refer to? It seems a little odd to have.

1.
Do step 1.

2.
Do the next step

rather than

1. Do step 1.

2. Do the next step.

Other small issues:

* There are some weird linebreaks on p11.
* We switch between Non-commercial (p12) and Non-Commercial (p10)
* Can we add links under the three CC licenses listed on p10? They're
relatively human-readable - eg creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

Andrew.

On Tuesday, 17 September 2013, Stevie Benton wrote:

 Thanks Jonathan. Before I go through the awkward job of tinkering with the
 InDesign file, what do other people think about the revision?

 Thank you,

 Stevie


 On 17 September 2013 12:47, Jonathan Cardy 
 jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Thanks all,

 *Possible revised wording with examples from the borderline and less
 repetition.
 *
 *
 UK Freedom of panorama*

  Under UK law, you can photograph, upload and share with the world a
 photo of any 3d artifact such as a building or sculpture that is
 permanently publicly displayed in the UK, even if the object is still under
 copyright.  But you need to check four things:
 1 Is it permanently on display? Temporary exhibits such as on the fourth
 plinth in Trafalgar square  are not included, but the Angel of the North is.
 2 When you took the photograph were you somewhere normally open to the
 public? Inside a pub or museum is fine, where you work or were a guest
 probably isn't.
 3 Was it 3d not 2d? Buildings and sculpture are 3d, graffiti, paintings
 and signs are 2d. So a photograph of stained glass illuminated by light
 shining through it is 3d, but the same stained glass window reflecting your
 flash at night is 2d and might still be under copyright.
 4 Did you take the photo in the UK? Most other countries have stricter
 rules.


 Regards


 Jonathan Cardy
 GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives  Museums) Organiser/
 Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!)
 Wikimedia UK
 0207 065 0990

 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
 over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.


 Press Enter to send your message.


 On 17 September 2013 11:43, Stevie Benton 
 stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Thanks again everyone for all of your input. As there is still some
 correspondence going around the booklet I'm going to leave it open for
 comments until 12pm tomorrow. At that point, I plan to close the discussion
 and prepare a final proof before sending to the printers and uploading to
 Commons.

 Thank you,

 Stevie


 On 17 September 2013 10:40, Edward Hands edwar...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?

2013-09-14 Thread Andrew Gray
The Angel of the North is an excellent example of visible,
well-photographed, modern public art. Plus it's a good excuse to include a
picture of it :-)

A.

On Saturday, 14 September 2013, Andy Mabbett wrote:

 On 14 September 2013 16:29, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.comjavascript:;
 wrote:
  An example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices;
 Nelson's
  Column comes to mind...

 Nelson's Column would be out of copyright anyway. Perhaps a more
 contemporary example, such as the Angel of the North?



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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Momvent: Policy Topics and Priorities Questionnaire

2013-09-02 Thread Andrew Gray
Relevant to this list.

A.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov dimitar.parvanov.dimit...@gmail.com
Date: 2 September 2013 10:19
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Momvent: Policy Topics and Priorities
Questionnaire
To: Advocacy Advisory Group for WMF LCA 
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wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org


tl;dr
Help us decide which policy issues are important to Wikimedia by filling
out a questionnaire [1]

Hello everybody,

Wikimania and most people's summer holidays are over, in Brussels
bureaucrats are slowly retunring to work and it is time for us to step up
our activity. This being said, there is not monitoring report of August,
instead, please help us get as many Wikimedians as possible to fill out our
survey!

We as a community are an active and prominent part of the internet.
Still, we can't deal with each and every issue it comes across.

We are trying to build up a structure [2] that lets us monitor policy
procedures with future impact on our work and are hoping to articulate our
needs and wishes. It is therefore crucial to us to know what as many people
people within our movmement think and which topics they deem important. In
short:

Which policy issues should be on our priority list?

The survey [1] takes less than 10 minutes (I personally nailed a 6:34) and
will help us immensely with our strategy planning. It is intended to also
define the questions in a survey we are planning to send out to political
parties ahead of the European Parliament elections 2014.

Thanks for the help and have a great autumn!
Dimi

[1]
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vSrFiYCAN-RPXdikdkkHmT_ZzWPdD5DcDpMye9uAiHM/viewform
[2]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy
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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Job Offer: Technical Position for WLM 2013

2013-07-24 Thread Andrew Gray
Possibly of interest to some. Please circulate...

Andrew.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in
Date: 23 July 2013 19:28
Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Job Offer: Technical Position for WLM 2013
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org


Dear WLMers,


We at the Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 international coordination team
are looking forward to hire a contractor to take care of the
maintenance of the infrastructure behind Wiki Loves Monuments, and
everything that is needed to run smoothly the contest. Yes, this will
be a paid contract and we would expect the person to work for us for
three months from August up-to October.


We are looking for a candidate of either gender with the following skills:

Python — at an experienced level;

MySQL —at an experienced level;

PHP — at an experienced level;

CSS/JS/HTML at a basic level;

Be a quick learner: need to learn basic MediaWiki code;


Among the tasks the contractor will need to perform you have: running
“Erfgoedbot” and adding countries to the monuments’ database. They
will need to write PHP–based tools (statistics) using data from a
MySQL database.


The contractor, when selected, will be working for the Wiki Loves
Monuments international coordination team. He will sign a contract
with Wikimedia Nederlands, the fiscal sponsor of the Wiki Loves
Monuments 2013 international project.


If you are interested, please forward your resume and your portfolio
to cristian.conso...@wikimedia.it. The deadline to send applications
is 29 July 2013. The Wiki Loves Monuments international team consists
of volunteers and so, it might take time from our side to review your
applications, but we will make sure it doesn’t takes more than a week.



Regards,

Karthik Nadar and Cristian Consonni,

On behalf of the WLM international team.


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[Wikimediauk-l] Two events in London - Royal Opera House British Library, 22 and 29 June

2013-06-11 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

A quick reminder/notification (as appropriate!) about two upcoming
events in London this month:

* Royal Opera House editathon, 22 June
* WWI workshop, British Library, 29 June

The Royal Opera House event will be focusing on the ballets of Sir
Frederick Ashton, one of the UK's most prominent choreographers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ballet/Royal_Opera_House_editathon

The British Library event will be a chance to use some of the newly
digitised (and not yet online) Europeana WWI material to help build
articles, or to work on any other projects that might be of interest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/British_Library/WWI

Please pass this on to anyone who might be interested!

Thanks,

- Andrew.

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[Wikimediauk-l] JISC training program - one week to apply!

2013-05-15 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

A quick reminder that the JISC call for tenders closes in one week,
at 12 noon on Wednesday 22nd:

http://www.jisc.ac.uk/fundingopportunities/funding_calls/2013/04/wikimedia.aspx

They're looking for someone to organise and run a (funded) nine-month
training and support program for academic programmes interested in
engaging with Wikipedia; it's structured as a request for tenders
rather than a recruitment process, allowing groups or partnerships to
bid for it, but they are happy to take bids from individuals as well.

Jisc invites tenders for an individual or organisation to be the Jisc
‘Wikimedia Ambassador' and run a nine month training and coordination
project for the use of Wikimedia tools and techniques for educational
purposes. The purpose of the training is to disseminate skills and
knowledge leading to improved coverage and accuracy of articles
relating to information produced by Jisc funded programmes presented
on Wikimedia projects. The purpose of the coordination project is to
promote open knowledge and to increase the uptake and use of Wikimedia
tools for the dissemination of academic knowledge and content.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Elections 2013

2013-05-02 Thread Andrew Gray
Should anyone be considering standing...

-- Forwarded message --
From: *Risker*
Date: Thursday, 2 May 2013
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Elections 2013
To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org


I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are now being accepted for
the 2013 Wikimedia Foundation Elections.  This year, elections are being
held for the following roles:


   -

   Board of Trustees

The Board of Trustees is the decision-making body that is ultimately
responsible for the long term sustainability of the Foundation, so we value
wide input into its selection.  There are three positions being filled.
More information about this role can be found at 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Board_elections/2013
.



   -

   Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)

The Funds Dissemination Committee
(FDC)
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC
makes
recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia
movement http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia funds to eligible
entities.  There are two positions being filled. More information about
this role can be found at 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/FDC_elections/2013
.



   -

   Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) Ombud

The FDC Ombud receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process,
investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees,  and
summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an
annual basis.  One position is being filled.  More information about this
role can be found at 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/FDC_Ombudsperson_elections/2013
.


The candidacy submission phase lasts from 00:00 UTC April 24 to 23:59 UTC
May 17. More
information on this election can be found at  
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013.


Please feel free to post a note about the election on your project's village
pump, or to translate it and distribute it on other Wikimedia movement
mailing lists. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the
talk page
on Meta, or sent to the election committee's mailing list,
board-elections AT wikimedia.org

On behalf of the Election Committee,

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Spam] Re: Nice piece from another country.

2013-04-24 Thread Andrew Gray
500m for all projects in all languages. Wikipedia-specific is probably smaller.

The 365m figure is from the Wikipedia article lead, though ;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia

A.

On 24 April 2013 13:42, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, It estimates that is has about 365 million readers worldwide. I
 thought we just crossed the 500 million mark for unique visitors?

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 On 24 Apr 2013, at 12:50, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

 I believe so, if Stevie has time: he's currently in San Francisco so is
 trying to get all the time he can with the WMF staff.

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 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over
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 On 24 April 2013 12:43, Harry Burt harryab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems well-informed. Is there any intention to ask for Wikipedian to be
 changed to Wikipedian-in-Residence in the prose if not the headline? I
 always thought the latter had quite a nice ring to it myself.

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 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22264118

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedian in Residence, National Library of Scotland

2013-04-22 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

Just as my work at the British Library is coming to an end, I'm
delighted to be able to tell people about a new Wikimedian in
Residence post at the National Library of Scotland - I've helped work
to set this up, and I think there's a real potential for doing amazing
things here. The NLS is a great institution, with some really
innovative and forward-thinking work, and as well as the obvious
strengths in Scottish history and culture they have major map
collections and one of the most interesting publishing archives in the
UK. Lots of scope for interesting projects here.

It's full-time, for four months, though this may possibly be
negotiable to a longer period at part time - it's worth asking. The
job is paid and formally employed by the Library, funded jointly by
the Library and by Wikimedia UK.
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/04/1533/ has further details and a
link to the NLS recruitment site.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedian in Residence, National Library of Scotland

2013-04-22 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

Both the Scots and the Scots Gaelic Wikipedias are now notified - I
had been meaning to get around to this earlier today but it had
slipped due to some other work, along with notifiying the en.wp
Edinburgh project.

NLS are definitely aware of the possibilities of working with the
gd.wp community; I've brought it up at some of the meetings I've had
with them in the past, and they were interested - they do have an
active organisational plan to do more to support Gaelic, and it's easy
to see how working with WP could fit in there. (The plan is
interesting reading, incidentally:
http://www.nls.uk/about-us/corporate-documents#gaelic ). I'm hoping to
have a chat with our contact there sometime in the near future, and
I'll remind them about it :-)

- Andrew.

On 22 April 2013 23:43, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 I'm sure folks will forward the news to other lists that they subscribe to.

 Here's some background reading:
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/11/were-looking-for-wikipedians-in-residence/
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedian_in_Residence_draft_job_description
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2013_Activity_Plan#GLAM_Wikipedians_in_Residence
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/uk/1/1e/DC_staff_report_to_the_board_Feb_2013.pdf
 - and the documents that Daria links to.

 I'm not aware of any feedback from the community on the part of the 2013
 Activity Plan that deals with the WiR programme.

 It would be wonderful if we had a Scots Gaelic speaker involved in our
 activities in Scotland. Sadly only around 60,000 people now speak Gàidhlig
 and most appear to be in the Islands. While I'd like to think that we could
 find a bilingual WiR to work in Edinburgh, I wonder what the chances
 realistically are of finding one? It's certainly worth asking the question,
 though.

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 On 22 April 2013 22:29, i...@cymruwales.com i...@cymruwales.com wrote:

 Hi Andrew

 1. Can you send me a link to the wiki community discussions regarding this
 post please.

 2. I note that you have only informed the en wiki community of this news;
 don't you think that Uicipeid Gàidhlig (and Scotts) should have been told at
 the same time?

 3. I note that the job spec requirements include:

 communicate in English clearly to a wide variety of audiences and have
 excellent presentation skills

 Surely, the ability to speak Gàidhlig would be an advantage to this post
 and should have been mentioned?

 Best regards

 Robin



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  Hi all,
 
  Just as my work at the British Library is coming to an end, I'm
  delighted to be able to tell people about a new Wikimedian in
  Residence post at the National Library of Scotland - I've helped work
  to set this up, and I think there's a real potential for doing amazing
  things here. The NLS is a great institution, with some really
  innovative and forward-thinking work, and as well as the obvious
  strengths in Scottish history and culture they have major map
  collections and one of the most interesting publishing archives in the
  UK. Lots of scope for interesting projects here.
 
  It's full-time, for four months, though this may possibly be
  negotiable to a longer period at part time - it's worth asking. The
  job is paid and formally employed by the Library, funded jointly by
  the Library and by Wikimedia UK.
  http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/04/1533/ has further details and a
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  Please circulate this widely!
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Privacy Policy - please comment and edit

2013-04-12 Thread Andrew Gray
Is the hosting switch actually going ahead? I know we'd been discussing
this, but I'd lost track of who was going to make the decision...

Andrew.

(still not convinced it's a good idea, for various reasons)

On Friday, 12 April 2013, Katie Chan wrote:

 On 12/04/2013 00:44, Thehelpfulone wrote:


 This policy describes what happens to personal information obtained
 through the websites hosted at uk.wikimedia.org
 http://uk.wikimedia.org and wikimedia.org.uk
 http://wikimedia.org.uk. This policy will be updated periodically. -
 WMUK wiki is currently on the Foundation's servers so is subject to the
 Foundation's privacy policy - not this one if I understand correctly?


 Doesn't mean it can't be subject to both. And there are currently plans
 for WMUK wiki hosting to be moved away from WMF servers.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Another voting reminder

2013-04-11 Thread Andrew Gray
So it is!

I plead, um, ignorance of the conference schedule as an excuse...

- Andrew.

On 11 April 2013 18:53, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Unless I've missed something; the EGM is Saturday, Richard has noted the
 proxy deadline for tomorrow.

 Tom


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 On 11 April 2013 17:54, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
  Presumably thats for people wanting to use you as a proxy. There's no
  deadline for proxies in general, right? The proxy can just turn up
  with the letter of authorisation, I think.

 According to the schedule, ballot papers are distributed at 3.30, so
 announcing you have additional proxy votes *after* that point might
 prove awkward and would certainly delay things a bit, which for such a
 short EGM is a problem.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-10 Thread Andrew Gray
The quorum figure includes proxy votes not present.

I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's dependent
on whether those same people turn up!

Andrew.

On Wednesday, 10 April 2013, Gordon Joly wrote:



 I believe that quorum is about 30 people, but there are only 20 names on
 the list here:

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/**EGM_2013http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013

 Given the importance of this agenda, can WMUK assure members that meeting
 will indeed be quorate? Or is the sign up list not representative?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Talk-GB] Aerial Photographs

2013-04-05 Thread Andrew Gray
Spotted this. The rights issues around the material would no doubt be
interesting, but this might be something where we could offer some
funding to offset the costs of digitisation/storage, and look to get a
tranche of the material onto Commons.

Thoughts?

Andrew.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com
Date: 5 April 2013 10:54
Subject: [Talk-GB] Aerial Photographs
To: talk...@openstreetmap.org


Folks,

Sheffield University has some surplus aerial imagery that could be available
to us if we wish to have it. Its described as a considerable collection
(amounting to around 6 filling
cabinets) of UK (mostly England, and mainly northern England) black  white
9 x 9 photographic prints, dating from around WWII to the early 1980s.
There are a few index sheets, many of the boxed sets are labelled.

I've asked for some more details so that we might consider storage
requirements (They are currently temporarily stored in a garage but need to
be in a dry low humidity room really) and should get some photos of what it
all looks like in the next few days.

In the meantime two questions for UK OSMers:

1. Do you think this is a resource that we should go for and build upon as a
sub-project within OSM?
2. How should we best deal with physical storage until such time as items
can be digitised. The question about what to do with documents (same applies
to all the map sheets I have) after digitising can be left till a later
date.

I'm less worried about scanning and managing the files now as I have
sufficient scanning equipment to cover most bases and disk space attached to
an OSM sever doesn't appear to be an issue. We would need to come up with
tools and methods of turning them into a seamless mosaic but I'm sure given
the task there's a workable solution for that too.

All thoughts, suggestions and offers welcome.

Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Anyone interested in Lua and PIzza one day?

2013-04-05 Thread Andrew Gray
On 5 April 2013 15:19, Katie Chan katie.c...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Hi all,

 This has been arranged for Sunday 19 May. For those interested, please sign
 up on https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lua_on_Wikimedia!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Royal Opera House editathon - 22 June

2013-04-03 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

Working with the Royal Opera House, we've organized an editathon to
take place on Saturday 22 June, provisionally include some form of
behind-the-scenes tour as well (though we're still looking into the
details). The goal for the day is to focus on improving coverage of
the works of Sir Frederick Ashton - one of the UK's foremost
choreographers and a founding figure of the Royal Ballet.

More details are here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ballet/Royal_Opera_House_editathon

If you're interested, please do sign up and keep the date free! I'll
send around another reminder closer to the time.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK EGM Saturday 18th April.

2013-04-03 Thread Andrew Gray
On 3 April 2013 22:32, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:
 On 03/04/2013 21:43, Gordon Joly wrote:

 Was the EGM announced here, or to members via CiviCRM?

 Members entitled to vote should have received an email notice of EGM
 individually. As a member, I received an email from
 fundrais...@wikimedia.org.uk on 20 March with the subject Katie - please
 vote in our Extraordinary General Meeting.

FWIW, I got a renewal reminder on 15/3, renewed the same day, but
didn't get an email about the EGM on the 20th.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikidata workshop

2013-03-28 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

I've had a lot of interest (during workshops, etc) about the potential of
Wikidata, both from librarians and from researchers; there's a general
sense that it'll be very interesting, but no-one's quite sure what they'll
be able to do with it :-)

We'll be having a Wikidata session at GLAM-Wiki, but of course not everyone
is happy to come along to a short session on a Friday afternoon as part of
a larger conference. To get around this, I've organised an introductory
workshop at the BL on 26th April, 2-5pm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:GLAM/BL/Wikidata

All welcome - my targeted audience is librarians  digital-humanities
types, but  if you're a Wikimedian who's interested in figuring out what's
going on with the new project, please do come along!

Conversely, if you're comfortable using/understanding Wikidata, and you'd
like to come along and help me *give* the workshop, please do let me know
:-). I'm reasonably comfortable with talking about it, but I'm aware there
are some gaps...

Thanks,

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikidata workshop

2013-03-28 Thread Andrew Gray
On 28 March 2013 09:34, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:GLAM/BL/Wikidata

 All welcome - my targeted audience is librarians  digital-humanities types,
 but  if you're a Wikimedian who's interested in figuring out what's going on
 with the new project, please do come along!

PS: no ticketing etc. required, but if you're intending to come please
do let me know so I can arrange coffee  check we're not overflowing
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Anyone interested in Lua and PIzza one day?

2013-03-15 Thread Andrew Gray
May 11th is a board meeting, so the basement might be crowded!

Andrew.

On 15 March 2013 15:13, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
 May 11th would be the day before the May London meetup, that might be
 convenient for some people.

 WSC


 On 15 March 2013 12:42, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Hey why not?

 I think there is interest in this so we should think how and where we
 should advertise it. Obviously on the UK Wiki.

 Not a huge fuss to do - someone to open the office on a Saturday?

 Skype or whatever and lots of pizza.

 Tom's offer is kind. Can you suggest a date?


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 I thought you said luau and pizza...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luau

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

2013-02-12 Thread Andrew Gray
Very nice! I will have a play, but it looks like that's more oriented
towards reorienting than cropping...

(I feel like there *ought* to be some kind of monstrous
seventeen-clause command line script I can write to do this sort of
thing, but no luck so far)

- Andrew.

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 Has anyone tried using unpaper [1] on a sample of images? I could do -- all
 you really need is a Unix-based OS and some command-line savvy - but I'm a
 little tied up just at the moment.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

2013-02-12 Thread Andrew Gray
On 12 February 2013 13:59, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Install Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/) on the visitor laptops and take them
 along?

GIMP is indeed on all the visitor laptops (at least on the Ubuntu
side). I'll leave the Windows side up to Richard :-)

(We should probably document this on-wiki somewhere...)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

2013-02-12 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all - thanks for the interest!

We've finally secured a room, after an awful lot of phoning around and
juggling of bookings - we'll be working with the images on Monday 18th
March, at the BL Conference Centre (which some of you may remember
from GLAMcamp, or from one of my public workshops). I haven't set up
times etc yet, but we have the room all day - there's a public
wireless network, and I'll arrange coffee and sandwiches.

If you are still interested in coming along on the 18th, please drop
me an email to say so, and I'll start pulling names together :-)

- Andrew.

On 11 February 2013 17:19, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
 Hi all,

 As some of you may know, I've been working on a project part-funded by
 WMUK to digitise and release a collection of historic Canadian
 photographs. After some work, we are now at a state where the metadata
 is at a high level of quality, and the glorious high-resolution TIFFs
 are piling up - there's currently about 2,000 waiting to go, and more
 are going to roll in. It's all very exciting, and I'm really looking
 forward to a big announcement once we've got them all on Commons.

 Unfortunately, they all look like this:

 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chef_de_Police,_D._Legault,_de_Montreal_%28HS85-10-13348%29.tif

 and in terms of being useful on Commons, it would be good if we could
 offer this:

 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chef_de_Police,_D._Legault,_de_Montreal_%28HS85-10-13348%29.jpg

 Rather than a couple of us spend hours every day for a month working
 on these, we thought we might try and do it in one go - I'm currently
 seeing if I can get a room at the British Library one afternoon, set
 up some laptops, bring in some coffee and sandwiches, and have a shot
 at breaking through the entire collection. Having a group of people
 look at the images also means we'll have more eyes looking out for
 interesting things, which can only be a bonus :-)

 We don't have a date yet, but tentatively we're thinking early/mid
 March. If anyone would be interested, in coming along, do let me know,
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[Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

2013-02-11 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

As some of you may know, I've been working on a project part-funded by
WMUK to digitise and release a collection of historic Canadian
photographs. After some work, we are now at a state where the metadata
is at a high level of quality, and the glorious high-resolution TIFFs
are piling up - there's currently about 2,000 waiting to go, and more
are going to roll in. It's all very exciting, and I'm really looking
forward to a big announcement once we've got them all on Commons.

Unfortunately, they all look like this:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chef_de_Police,_D._Legault,_de_Montreal_%28HS85-10-13348%29.tif

and in terms of being useful on Commons, it would be good if we could
offer this:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chef_de_Police,_D._Legault,_de_Montreal_%28HS85-10-13348%29.jpg

Rather than a couple of us spend hours every day for a month working
on these, we thought we might try and do it in one go - I'm currently
seeing if I can get a room at the British Library one afternoon, set
up some laptops, bring in some coffee and sandwiches, and have a shot
at breaking through the entire collection. Having a group of people
look at the images also means we'll have more eyes looking out for
interesting things, which can only be a bonus :-)

We don't have a date yet, but tentatively we're thinking early/mid
March. If anyone would be interested, in coming along, do let me know,
and I'll be in touch once we've got fimer plans...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership grace period

2013-02-07 Thread Andrew Gray
On 7 February 2013 17:22, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 7 February 2013 17:01, Katherine Bavage
 katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 So - I'm not advocating FOR a reduction in limiting the grace period to a
 shorter time span (say, three months) but rather seeking your thoughts on
 whether that would be a good or a bad idea and why, much like I did when
 asking about verifying the identity of members applying for membership.
 Candid responses welcome.

 I'm thinking you should nag us more.

 *cough* I suspect I am one of said members. Where do I go to give you
 my money again?

Yeah, I'm with David - active members in grace are mostly just
forgetful :-). As there are virtually no things for which being a
member is essential other than voting, it's very easy to not get
around to it...

Is it possible to set up recurring membership dues as a direct debit?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: WikiConference 2013 Speakers

2013-01-20 Thread Andrew Gray
On 20 January 2013 19:16, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where the Geograph outscores WLM is that they aren't time limited, some of
 their photographers have uploaded images from decades ago, and they cover
 the same object in different seasons. I think that makes them more
 compatible with Wikipedia, September foliage can hide some of the features
 we want to photograph, winter snow can highlight earthworks and other
 archaeology, past events are best illustrated with old photos, and
 waterfalls in particular are much better illustrated with minigalleries
 showing winter spate next to summer trickles.

Isn't WLM also non-time-limited? They have to be *submitted* to the
contest (and Commons) in  a specific month, but older images are still
acceptable - see for example the Israeli winner, which was taken in
the winter of 1992.

http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/11/29/wiki-loves-monuments-2012-the-israeli-finalists/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WikiConference 2013 Speakers

2013-01-16 Thread Andrew Gray
As I recall, the objections were in part that we have most of this
material already on Commons (via Geograph), but badly organised. I
don't know if that's changed, or if we've got a better idea of what's
out there...

- Andrew.

On 16 January 2013 16:45, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:
 Well we have a list of Grade I listed buildings in every county. I'm sure it
 would be easy enough to have a bot do the same for Grade II* and Scheduled
 Ancient Monuments, and that gives us a ready-made target list. How much more
 organisation is needed, beyond creating the necessary project pages on the
 relevant wikis and getting the word out?

 Harry Mitchell
 http://enwp.org/User:HJ
 Phone: 024 7698 0977
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 Excellent suggestions, thanks, I will look into it.

 A WLM speaker would be great... last year it was mentioned, but only as a
 plea for someone to step forward and organise the UK effort.

 I looked into what it would take but it seems a larger job than I'd have
 time for given my other committements - is there noone from the GLAM side of
 things who can take it on??

 Tom


 On 15 January 2013 21:11, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

 If the UK would be participating in Wiki Loves Monuments this year, would
 that be an angle to search a keynote? (national or European) I doubt someone
 from the international team would qualify as a ''keynote'' (maybe regular
 though?) but someone from Heritage England or even one of the European
 umbrella organizations (Europa Nostra, Europeana) could do something?

 Just a thought,

 Lodewijk


 2013/1/15 Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk

 AGM 8th of June with more activities on the 9th.

 On 15 January 2013 11:21, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote:

 date?
 On Jan 15, 2013 11:19 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Morning Everyone,

 As you might know, the 2013 conference will be in Lincoln, organised by the
 Conference Committee with support from the office.

 With the venue chosen, we now need to figure out an exciting programme. A
 lot of this is in the planning stage and we will be releasing more
 information later, however one of the first thing we need to do is figure
 out some keynote speakers.

 Later in the year we will be calling for papers and speakers from within the
 community, right now we are focusing on finding one or two big names who
 have something relevant to say.

 As this is your concert we need to know who you want to hear from!

 It could be anyone; from celerities, to politicians, to activists. We're
 looking for intriguing suggestions, people with a unique perspective.

 Some initial suggestions have been made, please please do suggest further
 ideas here on the mailing list, by emailing myself or posting on this page:
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2013/Speakers

 Regards,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: WikiConference 2013 Speakers

2013-01-16 Thread Andrew Gray
On 16 January 2013 20:38, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:
 I remember the discussion (though I didn't remember the mention of the EH
 list).

 I suppose we could try asking them nicely to give us the list in a more
 useful format, but even if we could import just the name of the building, it
 would be a start.

I had a chat with Richard (N) about this today and we concluded it was
probably worth asking again to see what was available and/or if they'd
be interested in being involved in some way - WLM was an astounding
success last year and getting involved for the UK might catch their
attention ;-)

Incidentally, has anyone run across this site?

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about

They seem to be using the same EH/etc data sources, but have assembled
it into something usable. The same guy has produced

http://www.ancientmonuments.info/site/about/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WikiConference 2013 Speakers WLM

2013-01-16 Thread Andrew Gray
On 16 January 2013 17:39, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 John - you are in the office tomorrow - let's draw up a plan as to what
 needs to happen and make it one of the first tasks of the new GLAM
 organiser.

Would this be too late? They will probably not be around before the
start of April (assuming a month notice/moving/etc), and the reference
plan has WLM well along by then:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Timeline

That said, it would certainly be an interesting project to get them
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Volunteer Declarations of Interest.

2012-12-07 Thread Andrew Gray
On 7 December 2012 17:33, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:

 What we can't have is a situation where someone on (say) a GLAM Committee is
 helping make decisions about where Wikimedia UK is seeking to appoint
 Wikimedians in Residence, or what their contract should say, and then
 applying for one of those Wikimedian in Residence posts. I hope this makes
 sense.

That seems more in line with what was initially posted:

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Draft_volunteer_Conflict_of_Interest_Policy

- while Jon's comment seems to suggest that even if you have no
decision-making ability, you'd be best to keep quiet on the whole
thing Just In Case, which is a bit more restrictive.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] a Creative Commons staff visiting London

2012-11-10 Thread Andrew Gray
I am delighted by the vote of confidence, but I don't think I can fairly
call the BL small by any use of the word ;-) I haven't seen our current
exhibition yet (only opened yesterday, and I was out of town) but I don't
think it has a significant digital component, unlike the previous one.

Definitely agree on visiting TNA at Kew, but note that Jo is now in York a
lot of the time.

Zeyi - do you know when your friend is going to be around?

- Andrew.

On Thursday, 8 November 2012, Richard Symonds wrote:

 Zeyi,

 From my perspective, the best person to visit would be Andrew Gray at the
 British Library. He's the official Wikipedian in Residence there and is,
 frankly, excellent. He might have time for coffee and a chat - likewise,
 your engineer friend could visit the UK Chapter office in central London,
 next to Old Street station, and have a chat with the staff.

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 Hi Zeyi,
 if she or he lands at Heathrow then go to the museum at the National
 Archives which is very close. They were the first to use QRpedia in London
 I think and they have worked with WMUK releasing images as well as hosting
 hack days. and they have a self appointed wiki in residense (Jo Pugh).
 They have also talked about releasing other works to wikisource.

 I'd be pleased to help if needed and we have other examples outside
 London.

 Roger

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 I have a friend who has been the software engineer in IBM and IT
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[Wikimediauk-l] Editathon at Oxford, 26th October

2012-10-18 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

If you're a student or staff at the University of Oxford, you might
like to know that they're organizing an editathon at the Radcliffe
Science Library on 26th October.

Building on the Royal Society event tomorrow, it's focusing on women in science:

http://courses.it.ox.ac.uk/detail/ENGR

If you've any questions, please let me know and I'll pass them on to
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ada Lovelace Day organised by Wikimedia UK - 19 October 2012, London

2012-10-17 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all.

Just to let you know that the Royal Society have shuffled some rooms
around and found a lot more tickets for the evening panel session, so
if you're in London on Friday evening, please do come along!

http://royalsociety.eventbrite.com/ to book.

- Andrew.

On 17 September 2012 16:49, Daria Cybulska
daria.cybul...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Dear all,

 It's Ada Lovelace Day on 16 October and it's most suitable for Wikimedia UK
 to get involved. The day exists to celebrate the contributions of women in
 the fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics. As you may
 know, Ada Lovelace is considered the first programmer, due to her work on
 Charles Babbage's analytical engine. As such, she's someone we can very much
 hold up as a role model. Wikimedia UK is organising a Women in Science
 themed editing event for Ada Lovelace Day on Friday 19 October 2012 and
 would like to invite you to attend!

 We have organised a group 'Edit-a-thon' to improve Wikipedia articles about
 women in science, held at the Royal Society's library, London, 2:30-6pm. We
 had a very high response from the academic community, and we filled many
 more spaces than expected! However, there are still a couple of places free
 for people who would like to help train new contributors - please get in
 touch if you are interested. There will also be opportunities to get
 involved online, which we will publish at our Wikimedia UK event's page (see
 below).

 Following the Edit-a-thon there will be an panel discussion with Uta Frith
 from the Royal Society and other female scientists on women in science (the
 focus will be much broader than just the representation of the topic on
 Wikipedia). The panel discussion will take place from 6:30pm - 8:00pm, and
 you are most welcome to attend - there are still free places available, so
 please feel free to register here
 http://royalsociety.org/events/2012/wikipedia-workshop/

 Wikimedia UK also has a page for the event, which you can see here
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace_Day_2012

 Hope to see many of you there.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

2012-10-16 Thread Andrew Gray
On 16 October 2012 10:21, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 While we're on the topic: could someone add in the Cambridge meetup to
 the current notice? Charles

Done.

(Still not sure if we should have this one national-level notice, or
if we should try much more targeted ones - London area, Cambridge
area, Manchester area, etc. Hmm.)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Support service (was:Social enterprise)

2012-10-03 Thread Andrew Gray
On 3 October 2012 13:20, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is the sort of discussion that should be had on-wiki, just to arrive at
 some clarity about the fundamental issues.

 I have raised the topic on Jimbo's talk page.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Replacing_OTRS_with_a_commercial_consultancy_service

Is anyone actually suggesting replacing OTRS? I saw Tom's proposal
above as an adjunct to it (which I'm not wild on either, but it's at
least defensible)

Replacing it would certainly be a step too far...

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[Wikimediauk-l] Dunhuang Project - Silk Road editing week

2012-10-03 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

I'm currently working on fixing up some of the details for an event we
have running later in October with the International Dunhuang Project,
an international group working with a large collection of manuscripts
and artefacts from the eastern end of the Silk Road.

http://idp.bl.uk/  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Dunhuang_Project

The aim is to work on content related to the broad context of Central
Asian/Silk Road history and archaeology, using the resources and
expertise of the group to develop articles on topics such as:

* major archaeological sites in the region
* history of the regions and periods covered
* key archaeologists, explorers, and scholars
* related ancient languages, art, and culture

A number of IDP staff in the BL are commited to working on this over
several days, and we're also making arrangements for some groups of
postgraduate students in related fields to get involved. It'll run
over four days at the British Library in London - 23rd to 26th October
- and Wikimedians who'd like to get involved are welcome to come on
any of the days. It will be inside the staff areas at the library, so
we *will* be able to have reference books available, which has often
been a problem in the past with these events!

If you're interested, please get in touch or sign up on the wiki -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/BL/IDP - and please do
forward this to anyone else who might be interested. IDP is a
multinational group, and we're keen to make sure some of this extends
beyond the English Wikipedia.

Hope to see some of you there!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Forthcoming unconferences: MuseumCamp, BarCampNFP, LibCamp

2012-09-30 Thread Andrew Gray
On 30 September 2012 21:11, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 Do we have anyone attending LibraryCamp (LibCamp) in Birmingham:

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/3931870330

 on Saturday 13 October? I was going, but I'm going to Wikimedia CCE instead.

For some reason I'd missed this until now - not completely sure if I
can reasonably make it to Birmingham for 9am, but I've put in for a
waitlist ticket. One of my colleagues from the BL is going, though!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Cutting back the 2013 plan

2012-09-28 Thread Andrew Gray
On 28 September 2012 18:40, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Training is something the chapter is already involved in and should
 therefore ensure is done well, since it reflects on the chapter. Having
 individuals contacting potential trainees directly appears unprofessional
 and leads to an inefficient and inconsistent response.

I don't think it's producing bad results, but perhaps I'm biased.

I've been spending the past six months doing *exactly this*; contacting
organisations directly, usually through personal contacts, arranging
training, and (with the invaluable help of volunteers) delivering it. I
have kept the chapter informed, but the sessions are pretty much
independent of the ongoing WMUK training events, though they provide
support (laptops, printed sheets, etc). I do not believe the chapter are in
any way unhappy with this arrangement; they've had plenty of opportunity to
say if they are!

It's certainly more efficient than asking the chapter to do it - you
yourself have argued on this very mailing list that they are overworked,
and trying to do too much. To demand it be centralised is to give them yet
more work to do, on top of the existing load. It also introduces extra
inefficiencies - they won't be going through the same direct connections,
which makes the offer of a workshop less likely to be accepted, and it's
much easier to arrange a session when the person delivering it is also the
person negotiating it.

Yes, random people emailing random contacts offering training is bad. But
if we trust the person to deliver the training professionally, and we are
willing to send them out there to represent the community in doing so, I
can't imagine any reason we wouldn't trust them to reach out and organise
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[Wikimediauk-l] Cutting back the 2013 plan

2012-09-28 Thread Andrew Gray
Training led and run by volunteers has very little to do with the
objections to the plan, which is about allocation of Chapter resources,
focus, and staff time. I don't see why we're running these two objections
together.

- Andrew.

On Friday, 28 September 2012, Thomas Dalton wrote:

 I'll say again, the issue here is the plan in aggregate. Specific examples
 aren't really important - there is plenty of room for reasonable people to
 come to different conclusions on a specific budget item. What we should be
 able to agree on though, is that this plan, when considered as a whole, is
 problematic.
 On Sep 28, 2012 10:44 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:

 On 28 September 2012 18:40, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Training is something the chapter is already involved in and should
  therefore ensure is done well, since it reflects on the chapter. Having
  individuals contacting potential trainees directly appears
 unprofessional
  and leads to an inefficient and inconsistent response.

 I don't think it's producing bad results, but perhaps I'm biased.

 I've been spending the past six months doing *exactly this*; contacting
 organisations directly, usually through personal contacts, arranging
 training, and (with the invaluable help of volunteers) delivering it. I
 have kept the chapter informed, but the sessions are pretty much
 independent of the ongoing WMUK training events, though they provide
 support (laptops, printed sheets, etc). I do not believe the chapter are in
 any way unhappy with this arrangement; they've had plenty of opportunity to
 say if they are!

 It's certainly more efficient than asking the chapter to do it - you
 yourself have argued on this very mailing list that they are overworked,
 and trying to do too much. To demand it be centralised is to give them yet
 more work to do, on top of the existing load. It also introduces extra
 inefficiencies - they won't be going through the same direct connections,
 which makes the offer of a workshop less likely to be accepted, and it's
 much easier to arrange a session when the person delivering it is also the
 person negotiating it.

 Yes, random people emailing random contacts offering training is bad. But
 if we trust the person to deliver the training professionally, and we are
 willing to send them out there to represent the community in doing so, I
 can't imagine any reason we wouldn't trust them to reach out and organise
 the sessions as well.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] FDC members

2012-09-16 Thread Andrew Gray
Possibly of interest - one of the members is Mike Peel.

- Andrew.

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From: *Patricio Lorente*
Date: Sunday, 16 September 2012
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] FDC members
To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org.

Dear friends:

I just posted the initial composition of the Funds Dissemination
Committee in
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/2012_FDC_members
as resolved today by the Board of Trustees. The resolution will be
published as soon as possible.

I would like to thank all the nominees, on behalf of the Board of
Trustees. Many committed and valuable wikimedians nominated themselves
to serve in this Committe. For those who were not appointed, we will
ask you to help us in other ways. For those who were appointed,
welcome aboard!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Context A2 scanner for sale

2012-09-05 Thread Andrew Gray
Predominantly maps, I would assume. However, it'd be better to write the
plan first and then see what equipment we need to beg/borrow/steal, rather
than the other way around...

- Andrew.

On Tuesday, 4 September 2012, Thomas Dalton wrote:

 What would we actually scan on it? When we've discussed digitisation
 equipment before, I think it has usually been in relation to one of those
 scanners for books. Are there many flat works larger than A3 that we are
 likely to want to digitise?
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 This may be of interest.

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 The National Portrait Gallery have recently installed a brand new
 photographic studio and no longer have use for their Contex CopyMate18 A2
 scanner.
 Rather than send the still working scanner for disposal we'd like to
 invite
 offers from institutions who might be able to make use of it. Recommended
 use would be digitising newspapers or other large documents. Monochrome
 photographs required quite a bit of post-scanning processing in Photoshop
 although full colour photographs were quite successful. The scanner did
 not
 replace our A4 or A3 scanning equipment but was purchased to allow us to
 digitise works larger than A3.
 We are offering the CopyMate 18 scanner, usb  power cables, calibration
 chart, all the scanner software (original cds and more recent downloads),
 third party software and dongle from Colorado (this give us more accurate
 colour output than the Contex software), plus electronic copies of
 instruction manuals from Contex and basic installation, common errors and
 maintenance instructions written in-house). The software is Windows only
 and
 requires a PC with at least 3GB of RAM. The scanner was purchased in 2006
 and used approximately once a week. It was last serviced, including new
 lamps in April 2009 and has not been used for the last 4 months.
 It measures approximately 130 x 65 x 20 cm and at least two people will be
 needed to move it. It will need to be collected from the National Portrait
 Gallery's administration building in Central London by the end of
 September.
 The scanner will be sold as seen, no guarantee is given or implied. It
 will
 be possible to view the scanner in action at the Gallery at the time of
 collection. The contact details of the maintenance company we used for
 servicing can be provided and we recommend that the scanner is serviced
 after installing it in its final location.

 Please email Emma Cavalier if you are interested.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Context A2 scanner for sale

2012-09-04 Thread Andrew Gray
On 4 September 2012 15:34, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Very interesting indeed! Although quite where we'd put it...

This is definitely one of those cases where the amazing awesomeness of
it would be let down by the sheer practical implications - this is
equivalent to having to buy and maintain an additional staff desk!

(I used to share an office with an A3 scanner - it was a beast. An A2
scanner you'd have to build the office around.)

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[Wikimediauk-l] Event at the British Library, 10 September

2012-08-17 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

This is to let you know about a couple of events at the British
Library; on the 10th of September, we'll be hosting a workshop and
exhibition tour.

As with the original editathon back in January 2011, it should provide
a good opportunity to meet curators, talk about possible
collaborations, etc. If all goes to plan, we'll also have a group of
newly released digital collections to work on, ready for sorting and
uploading - details TBC. My work as Wikipedian in Residence has been
heavily built around the training program in the last couple of
months, and I'm hoping to be able to put more emphasis into content
work from now on. If there's things you'd like me to try and work on
later in the residency, or if you just want to chat about what's been
done so far, please come along!

In the evening, there is a tour arranged of the Writing Britain
exhibition - this will start at 6.30 and be led by two of the curators
organising the exhibition. Hopefully, it should be suitable for anyone
working during the day and not able to make the afternoon session. I
know it's a little unusual to hold an event on a weekday rather than a
weekend, but this was the only day we could bring everything together!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/BL/September_2012

Later in the week, in the morning of Thursday 13th, John Byrne has
arranged a tour of the British Museum's ''Writing Shakespeare''
exhibition - signup details below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/BM/2012

Please let me know if you've any questions, and hope to see you there!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Upcoming training workshops - London

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

I posted a month or two ago asking for volunteers to help with some
training workshops I was running at Birkbeck. Thanks again to the four
who replied - the day went well and we got really positive feedback
from the attendees.

I've three more arranged in London, and one in Oxford:

* 3rd September (British Library)
* 24th September (British Library)
* 8th October (University of Oxford)
* 12th October (British Library)

The three BL events are a mixture of those being advertised to AHRC
researchers and postgraduates (see
http://www.ahrc.ac.uk/News-and-Events/Events/Pages/Wikipedia-courses-for-AHRC-awardholders.aspx),
with another intended for readers (ie users) at the British Library.
The Oxford event is run by the university for its own postgraduates.
They'll all be afternoon sessions running for three or four hours; a
general introduction to Wikipedia and QA session, followed by a short
practical session with the sandbox, a coffee break, and then time to
do some live editing with experienced users around to lend a hand.

If you'd be interested in helping train people at one or more of these
sessions, please get in touch! They're fairly informal events, really
quite enjoyable, and the more Wikipedians we have the better...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Training coffee morning 12 August

2012-08-06 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi Charles,

I won't be able to make the 12th - it's the first free weekend I've
had for a month or so, and I've sworn off going into London! - but I
will be around in Cambridge working from home on Friday. Would you be
free for a quick coffee sometime in the afternoon?

- Andrew.

On 6 August 2012 15:45, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 I'm running another coffee morning, i.e. informal discussion session
 about training issues. This one will precede the London meetup on
 Sunday 12 August, and will be in the same place, Penderel's Oak pub in
 Holborn (http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/penderels-oak/).
 I'll get a train that will allow me to be there by 11 am. All are
 welcome, to discuss current and future training.

 I'll hang around during the meetup. But it does tend to get noisier,
 which is why it seems worth setting aside a couple of hours before the
 meetup itself starts.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Gray
On 1 August 2012 12:01, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 No effect I can see but Richard who monitors these things is in interviews
 all day.I get notification of one-off and In fact a few quite generous
 donations over the last 24 hours which surprised me.  (£66.40 in total)
 These normally happen at the weekend when I suppose people are at home,
 using wikipedia and then feel generous. This was a bit different.
 Can't really think there is a link one way or not.

Is there a normal last few days of the month pickup? Everyone's just
got paid...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Gray
On 1 August 2012 13:49, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 August 2012 13:29, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 Scanning and promoting the use of the images and text for the public
 benefit. Then selling the book at either little loss or a likely
 profit for the charity once we have a lot of public attention on it.

 Slight amendment after thinking over a cup of tea - I would prefer to
 see it donated to the British Library (or some another worthy public
 archive) for the permanent public benefit, rather than resell. This
 fits better with the Wikimedia UK mission and the receiving
 institution might even help with archive quality digitization.

Much as I would like to say we here at the BL would love you to pay
for a new and exciting manuscript, I'm not sure this is the best
approach for spending Chapter funds in terms of value returned. Grants
for a third party to acquire material is a long way from the sort of
thing we've supported before, and while I think you could just about
argue it's inside our objectives, I personally have my doubts.

(Look at it another way: If an archive had come to us and said we'd
like you to fund digitisation of this book, we'd probably say yes at
£250, maybe at £500, and start laughing if they said it would cost
£5,000.)

The best model for cases like this would be to develop a method where
we have an agreed partner who'll digitise culturally significant
material at a reasonable cost (or a group who can do it in-house, but
for material like this that's tricky) and a standing offer to fund it
for certain classes of limited-availability material like this. We
then approach the auctioneers or booksellers, talk them in to letting
us have it for a day to scan it, and let them do as they will after
that.

One risk here is that the digitisation would lower the marketable
value of the final item, but I don't know how we'd quantify this one
way or the other.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Gray
On 1 August 2012 13:05, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Currently on sale for £5,000, and the blog's author pleads: There
 must surely be an individual or institution who would be willing and
 able to properly document the contents of Cotton's unique record of
 Newgate's executions and put the results into the public domain.
 Wikisource would be the perfect channel for putting the contents of
 the journal into the public domain, if only we could get scans of the
 whole book.

Note, incidentally, that there must be some interesting overlap
between this and Old Bailey Online, which will document many of the
trials that preceded the hangings.

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18120513-5-person102 -
for example, is also covered in Cotton.

 What's the possibility of WMUK buying the book for £5,000, scanning it
 to Commons, then selling the book privately or to a dealer to recover
 most of the money spent?

I suspect that we would be unlikely to get more than half that were we
to sell it direct to a dealer, and goodness only knows if we were to
sell it privately. It's a bit of a gamble with donor funds!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Gray
On 1 August 2012 14:31, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 August 2012 14:19, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:

 The best model for cases like this would be to develop a method where
 we have an agreed partner who'll digitise culturally significant
 material at a reasonable cost (or a group who can do it in-house, but
 for material like this that's tricky) and a standing offer to fund it
 for certain classes of limited-availability material like this. We
 then approach the auctioneers or booksellers, talk them in to letting
 us have it for a day to scan it, and let them do as they will after
 that.

 We need to develop in-house volunteer expertise, yes.

 So. What do we need?

The Internet Archive would be the best people to talk to about this;
they've experience in deploying scanning machines and training
individuals to operate them. I don't know how much the hardware costs,
but it seems there's one installed at the Natural History Museum:

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/community/library/blog/2012/07/25/bhl-the-vast-library-of-life

It might be worth talking to them and asking if we can train a
volunteer to use the hardware on an occasional basis, during slack
time, to run our own programs. They have the software in place to
contribute copies to IA (which ought to be best practice for our
digitisation programs anyway), and we can handle the Commons side
ourselves; all we need to do then is source the books!

I'm happy to contact them and make enquiries about this, unless
someone else already has NHM contacts - anyone?

*However*, this is the general case for digitisation of normal print
works. For manuscript material like this - rare, probably very
fragile, and needing careful curation during the scanning process -
I'd be really reluctant to let it near a volunteer who didn't have
training and experience. For a program like this, outsourcing it is
really the best way to go, and it's certainly more likely to be
persuasive.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge coffee morning this Saturday

2012-07-17 Thread Andrew Gray
On 17 July 2012 15:09, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 As previously mentioned to the list, I want to do some meetup-lite
 events connected with training; and the first will consist of my being
 at the CB2 cybercaff in Cambridge from 10 am to 1 pm this Saturday 21
 July. This is the same venue as the normal meetups but I'm relying on
 word-of-mouth this time - please pass on the news to anyone who might
 be interested in the area (WM training, distance education being the
 particular new focus).

Can't make it, I'm afraid - I'll be in Edinburgh. Hope it goes well...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Edinburgh photography workshop

2012-07-11 Thread Andrew Gray
On the format, a wiki is practical for our users, but not for people new to
the system - even if they are comfortable editing, using a complicated
table is definitely a deterrent. We actively discourage posting contact
details, for obvious reasons, which adds an extra hurdle to confirming - as
we need names and contact details, we have to be able to follow up is they
don't post them.

(unrelatedly, I did sign up, but no email - can someone check if I am in
fact registered?)

- Andrew.
On 11 Jul 2012 15:37, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11 July 2012 15:14, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
  it's on a system which we have full control over, although the servers
 are
  run by Google, obviously! The difference is that we have some control
 over
  it. What other system would you suggest? happy to hear suggestions!

 Well the publicly posted list appeared to be working fairly well and
 allows people to judge if this is an event they want to attend. The
 most effective way of dealing with privacy related information is not
 to collect it in the first place and since Mcdonald Road Library is
 hardly a controlled area there is no real reason to.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Training semi-meetups in Cambridge?

2012-06-26 Thread Andrew Gray
On 26 June 2012 12:54, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 I'm thinking of coffee mornings (Saturdays or Sundays) in Cambridge so
 people interested in new training stuff can gather painlessly. Don't want
 calendar events, just face time.

 I'm in Cambridge, as is Peter Coombe, as is Andrew Gray, and the Wellcome
 Sanger Group includes Magnus Manske, Darren Logan (Rockpocket) and Alex
 Bateman. A good start and obviously all would be welcome.

I'm certainly interested, dates permitting. I'll probably be around
14th/15th July - ie, the weekend of Wikimania, so if anyone is left in
the country then...

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[Wikimediauk-l] GLAM-WIKI 2012 - registration now open!

2012-06-22 Thread Andrew Gray
Dear all,

I am pleased to announce that registration is now open for the
GLAM-WIKI 2012 conference, to be held at the British Library in London
on 14th - 16th September 2012.

The conference will feature two days of presentations and workshops,
with the Friday focused on the work Wikimedia and similar
organisations have done in partnership with cultural institutions,
presenting case studies and discussing the benefits to both parties.
The Saturday will be oriented more towards the practical and technical
side, looking at ways to work together and running workshops to share
best practice.

The third day, Sunday 16th, will be an unconference day, with the
focus and agenda determined by the attendees on the day.

We are currently taking proposals for talks, workshops and panel
sessions, on three broad themes:

* Open content in the GLAM sector
* Developing sustainable partnerships
* New models and future projects

The call for papers will close on 23rd July, and the schedule will be
announced on 30th July.

Registration is now open at: http://glamwiki2012.eventbrite.co.uk/ and
accomodation details will be released at a later date when hotel
arrangements are confirmed.

More details, and the call for papers, are at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM-WIKI_2012

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[Wikimediauk-l] Academic training workshops

2012-06-14 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all,

As many of you know, as part of my work at the British Library I'll be
organizing a series of training workshops on behalf of AHRC for
postgraduates and academics, at various institutions around the
country. These are mostly half-day sessions, giving training to
specialists who are interested in contributing to Wikipedia or other
Wikimedia projects, or learning more about engaging and collaborating
with the Wikimedia community - I'm modelling them on the past sessions
run by WMUK with, eg, the Institute of Physics.

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Physics_Workshop

If they involve more than a small number of people, I'm quite keen to
have someone else around, since it helps a lot if there's two or three
people available to answer questions, demonstrate things, etc. If
you'd be interested in coming along to one of these sessions and
helping show people the ropes, please let me know and I'll keep you
informed of future dates  locations - I can cover reasonable travel
expenses where needed...

Alternatively, if you have contacts who you think might be interested
in hosting one at their institution, I'd be really interested to hear
about it - part of the trick with setting these up is finding the
right person to approach!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Role accounts

2012-04-29 Thread Andrew Gray
On 29 April 2012 13:08, Harry Burt harryab...@gmail.com wrote:

 In any case, role accounts are in all practical terms regarded merely
 an accountability issue these days. Which is probably why no page goes
 into detail on the copyright matter.

It also seems quite at odds with the fact that we *do* allow and
assist organisations to release content under a free license - just so
long as they go through another process. There are practical
identification and verification benefits to doing it this way, but it
certainly doesn't support any kind of copyright limitation.

(I am becoming of the opinion that prohibiting role accounts is a bad
idea full stop, but that's another story...)

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[Wikimediauk-l] [offlist] Re: The British Library is looking for a Wikimedian In Residence (6 months)

2012-02-09 Thread Andrew Gray
[offlist]

On 9 February 2012 11:23, Fae f...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Applications close in *2 weeks* so let any friends and folks on your
 personal networks who might be interested know about this opportunity as
 soon as possible. You can tweet using the
 shortcut:  http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/?p=778

Interesting indeed! Do you know when they expect the post to start, or
is it subject to negotiation?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [offlist] Re: The British Library is looking for a Wikimedian In Residence (6 months)

2012-02-09 Thread Andrew Gray
On 9 February 2012 12:09, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
 [offlist]

Dear all: I am still outwitted by email. Thankyou for giving me an
opportunity to demonstrate this on a slow morning :-)

As you were...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A few requests!

2012-02-08 Thread Andrew Gray
On 8 February 2012 16:34, Harry Burt harryab...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's worth noting that traditionally PPCs have had difficulty sustaining
 articles, whereas incumbent MPs are all notable. I suspect the same may be
 true of L.A. elections.

Yes.

In early 2010, I reviewed a lot of pages for constituencies to look
for articles on PPCs, which tend to be very problematic puff-pieces of
limited notability. I think perhaps 75% were fairly irredeemable.

In the current case, the best answer is to point toward the notability
guidelines for politicians, which I think explicitly state that the
community does not think candidates for an office which would
otherwise confer notability can be notable simply by virtue of being
candidates for it, and to explain that the corrolary of this is that
articles on candidates are often deleted, which leads to tears.

(Perhaps a bullet-point FAQ on Can I have an article?, with common
arguments and problems, is a worthwhile thing to produce for outreach
purposes. #15. 'But I wrote a book!')

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

2011-12-31 Thread Andrew Gray
On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie tricky to
 link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]

In a slightly convoluted mode, I believe the ship is as well. (At some
point in the past few centuries it was decided that he was All Right
After All, etc.)

 Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes
 Monmouth Castle - Go for it!
 There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may be
 local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.

Is there a WP Monmouth[shire]? If not, this may be a good idea to
kickstart one - identify relevant articles, start projecttagging, etc.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day 2012

2011-11-02 Thread Andrew Gray
On 31 October 2011 13:45, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:

 The most prominent British writer to die in 1941 was Virginia Woolf,
 so no doubt we'll see a spate of reprints by about March. Others
 include Hugh Walpole (prolific but mostly forgotten), P. C. Wren
 (Beau Geste), A. G. Macdonell (England, Their England), H. E.
 Marshall (Our Island Story).

Following on from this, I tried skimming some other countries, and got
very excited when I noticed Tagore died in 1941, but on examination
he's in the public domain already - India is life + 60.

Japan, Canada and New Zealand are life + 50, but I don't immediately
see any exciting cases who died in 1961; Australia is in the process
of transitioning from life + 50 to life + 70, and as a result no-one
new will fall into the public domain this year. France is best left
aside as discussed above; Germany is life + 70, which means Emanuel
Lasker's books on chess will become PD, along with a handful of minor
novelists.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day 2012

2011-10-31 Thread Andrew Gray
On 31 October 2011 15:49, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do we need to avoid them for some special legal reason or just because
 we don't feel comfortable saying Yay! This brilliant author got shot
 in the head defending his country 70 years ago so we can now copy his
 books with paying for them!? If it's the latter, then we can probably
 word things sufficiently delicately.

It's a legal issue, but *only* regarding French authors (at least, I'm
not immediately aware of any other countries which do the same thing).
As part of a general French law regarding those killed or injured in
wartime (and their dependents), authorial copyrights are extended by
an additional thirty years in these cases, from seventy years after
death to a hundred years after death. (A side-effect of this is that
the *first* cases will become PD in a few years - 1 January 2015 for
those killed during 1914.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mort_pour_la_France

French law also has an odd caveat for works which were in copyright
during the two world wars; the periods of these wars are not counted
for calculating expiry dates, thus meaning that some works which were
still in copyright in 1939, and would have expired over the next few
years, will not do so for a bit longer. Per our article, this only
applies for musical works - a court recently annulled it for most
works - so we can just omit French composers from our calculations!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_France

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF veto on geonotices?

2011-10-07 Thread Andrew Gray
On 7 October 2011 13:02, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am unclear about the WLL central notice. Is there a discussion
 somewhere that explains why this notice about a regional GLAM activity
 would be a central notice rather than a USA specific Wikipedia
 geonotice?

The centralnotice was requested by the same person who set up the
geonotice, and I'm guessing it's intended to ensure non-WP projects
are notified (Commons and WS are likely interested parties). It's
still targeted to the US and Canada only, but now running on multiple
projects.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Calendar

There's no explicit policy I can see regarding not duplicating notices
globally and locally, but it's something I've always understood to be
discouraged.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise

2011-09-13 Thread Andrew Gray
On 12 September 2011 21:28, Harry Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:
 I don't know how much use postcards, even Wikimedia postcards, would get,
 but some of the Commons POTYs would be great for that kind of thing. How we
 get past look at the pretty picture to upload your own, I'm not sure.
 In my (relatively limited) experience, it's not the smallest sizes that are
 left over! ;) What else makes a good platform for advertising Commons?

Some mosaic Commons postcards (possibly from WMDE?) were floating
around at Wikimania, and were very popular - well, they vanished fast,
anyway. In my experience, a lot of people take these to be pretty
pictures to put somewhere rather than to use as postcards qua
postcards, which is fair enough, but perhaps we could capitalise on
this.

If they're not actually using the back, we don't need to leave it
blank - so why not pre-print it with a message?

Some options:

a) a quick guide to uploading to Commons, in two or three steps.
b) ditto for creating an enwiki (or other project) account.
c) a general introduction to free content.
d) the story of the image.

The latter requires careful research and selection, but is potentially
very impressive if we do it right -

This picture of a sycamore was taken on June 2008 by Maria, a German
Wikipedia editor in Munich. Since then, it's been used to illustrate
48 articles in 36 different language editions of  Wikipedia, where
it's been seen well over four hundred thousand times. It's used in
over a hundred other websites as a stock photograph, and has appeared
in a magazine and a children's schoolbook.

- and it should be fairly easy to follow that with a message of you
can really contribute something worthwhile!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise

2011-09-13 Thread Andrew Gray
On 13 September 2011 13:58, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 +1. I very much like this idea! Does anyone know who set that up/who was in
 charge of that idea?

Commons has the PDFs here (which are bizarrely distorted by mediawiki,
but there you go):

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Commons_Postcard.pdf
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Commons_Postkarte_(sw).pdf

You can probably chase down the original details via the author (or
just by asking WMDE directly)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise

2011-09-12 Thread Andrew Gray
On 12 September 2011 15:41, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 · Merchandise printed with Wikipedia memes such as [citation
 needed], [edit], or maybe phrases like “Wiki Loves Museums” or “I Write
 Wikipedia”

I have been asked on many occasions why there aren't [citation needed]
stickers. (Really, I have. Yes, it worries me too.) I suspect there is
a good market here on purely commercial terms...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-19 Thread Andrew Gray
On 19 August 2011 17:59, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Hang on - much as I love the DNB, there is huge amount to know before
 saying spending money on it would be a good use. There are literally
 hundreds of Google Books keys for DNB volumes, some of which don't work
 in the UK but do work in the USA, etc.

To quickly follow up, there's also the complicating factor that not
all DNB articles are public domain - at least, not outside the US,
which isn't an issue for WM proper but is for us! Almost everything in
the 1885 publication is *likely* to be PD - unless the contributors
were very precocious junior academics - but the DNB included more
recent content (supplementary volumes published every ten years or so)
and those are a real minefield involving individual author dates. OED
do have the metadata to figure this out on a life+70 basis, but it
might not be trivial for them.

(It's also not clear if the versions published on the ODNB website are
themselves the clean versions - they may have been tidied up, etc,
which muddies the waters a little.)

Do we have a central list of DNB volumes for which WS does not have
scans? I'm happy to spend an hour digging through Google Books / OL /
etc...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-26 Thread Andrew Gray
On 25 July 2011 23:37, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Tom,

 The 10K was in the budget and had not been spent at last meeting in
 Birmingham. It was thought then too late to spend it, but I volunteered for
 the task. Basically I sent out an email and funded those people who applied
 and we also funded some who had failed to get foundation funding (two from
 overseas).

If it's any help, I'm willing to put in a retroactive application to
help use up some funds ;-)

Would it be worthwhile stating in advance - ie, now or fairly soon -
the intention of funding some people to go to WM2012, even if the
details of what criteria to use aren't yet set out? Then people will
at least know something is available and can register an interest in
it, and there'll be some impetus to have it get spent.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] two-letter UK domains: any use?

2011-06-09 Thread Andrew Gray
On 9 June 2011 12:42, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've just noticed that Nominet have made two-letter UK domains available for 
 release:
 http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrants/aboutdomainnames/reserved/releaselist/

 This includes wp.co.uk/wp.org.uk/etc. - does anyone think these would be 
 useful for Wikipedia somehow?

 (The deadline for applying is apparently in just under a week's time.)

Yes, applying for our standard two-letter abbreviations - wm, wp, etc
- seems a smart idea. Nothing ventured...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] British Library English and Drama event for Wikip/medians // Saturday 4 June 2011

2011-05-11 Thread Andrew Gray
On 10 May 2011 17:03, Fae f...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Registration for this collaboration event at the British Library has
 opened today and has yet to be promoted to the general public. Sign up
 early if you would like to take advantage of full access to the
 English and Drama unique collections (some of the archives suggested
 have yet to be officially catalogued) with supporting advice from the
 UK's leading curators and researchers who are eager to help improve
 Wikipedia's (and sister projects) depth of coverage. Details at
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editathon,_British_Library

This sounds very interesting! Are you looking for topic specialists in
particular, or...?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Pictures of politicians

2011-02-04 Thread Andrew Gray
On 4 February 2011 11:45, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do we have a programme to get photos of every MP? Standard templates,
 etc? I need to ask mine, [[Stella Creasy]], for one ...

I think someone mooted a letter-writing campaign a while back, but I
don't know if anything ever got off the ground.

There is probably some parliamentary system for standard portraits;
maybe we could see if they could be convinced to release the end
product?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 5 Live Investigates on Books LLC, Sunday night 9pm UTC

2011-01-28 Thread Andrew Gray
On 28 January 2011 12:44, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 Has anyone been in touch with Amazon on this issue?

WMF hasn't been, I believe - though I wouldn't be sorry if we were! -
but there have been a number of individual complaints to Amazon made
about it, by purchasers, mostly getting brush-offs in response. It's
one of those annoying situations where the offending party is
compliant with the strict letter of the rules but is nevertheless, and
entirely without a doubt, reliant on misleading its customers.

(On the other hand, at least their decision to obfuscate their source
means we don't end up getting the backlash from this sort of business
practice. Swings and roundabouts...)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question about the addition of BBC content to Wikipedia entries

2010-09-10 Thread Andrew Gray
On 10 September 2010 14:19, Martin Poulter m.l.poul...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 Not a TV show, David: a radio programme in which academic experts on the
 topic are interviewed and have to talk about their research for a lay
 audience. Usually much better than the typical WP EL and probably among
 the best links in the world for for further information on the topic:
 again, depending on the human judgement of article editors.

I think the level of usefulness will in large part depend on the
subject. A programme on the Pharaoh Akhenaten is likely to be a good
external link for that article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00mwsly

whilst a broad discussion on Africa would be much less directly
useful on the article about the continent:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00545ld

The best approach here might be to try the automatic topic-matching to
Wikipedia articles, bur rather than dropping the links into the
articles - which would probably lead to at least one person getting
very upset and trying to remove them all again, and it'd be messy -
link them on the talkpages with a note explaining what /In Our Time/
is, for those editors unfamiliar with it, and asking them to decide if
it would be useful either as a further reading style external link,
or if it could be used as a source for developing the article itself.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

2010-02-18 Thread Andrew Gray
On 18 February 2010 15:35, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm sorry if you interpreted my question as being rude. I simply
 wanted to know what your point was, since you hadn't made it. You had
 just made some general comments that did not have an obvious
 conclusion.

It was in response to a response to a comment of his; read in that
context, it makes perfect sense.

Setting a price below a typical cinema ticket isn't really a claim on
anyone's respect. ... in the real world money tends to be given to
those who show they know the value of it, ergo, asking for less money
with the hope of getting more people may actually lead to you
receiving even less overall because it may suggest a lack of
seriousness or of ambition.

I'm not sure I agree with it entirely, but it's a legitimate concern.

A few related points which are worth bearing in mind here:

* Elasticity. There's plenty of people who'd pay half what they're
paying now happily, but would also pay *twice* quite happily. Lowering
it to the lower end of that band won't bring in more of the people
whose decision to join or not in the first place isn't simply purely
monetary - and I don't think it's that unusual a group. Tom says we're
planning to email donors asking if they'd become a member at a reduced
rate - do we know they wouldn't have become a member at the current
rate if asked?

* Demographics. Who are we targeting with reduced memberships? Is
there a definable group of people who can't pay the higher fee, and if
so, is it not being served by the existing two-tier group?

* Efficiency. If we can raise a sufficient amount from memberships to
cover our predicted operating costs, this is a pretty good thing - it
means we can say, clearly and upfront, that all donations received
will be spent *entirely* on productive projects, that there's no cut
for administration from donated funds. Good fundraising selling point,
there.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

2010-02-18 Thread Andrew Gray
On 18 February 2010 16:16, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 monetary - and I don't think it's that unusual a group. Tom says we're
 planning to email donors asking if they'd become a member at a reduced
 rate - do we know they wouldn't have become a member at the current
 rate if asked?

 They were already asked, although maybe not very prominently, and most
 of them didn't join.

Comment on the donation form, I guess?

Optional stuff on a donation form is usually ignored regardless of the
fine print of what it says, and I suspect you'd have had virtually the
same takeup if it said £5 or £10 or £15 - of course, this is
practically untestable in any useful way.

Do we have figures for the distribution of our donors to hand? What
proportion gave:

a) up to £5
b) £5 to £12
c) £12 or more

The proportions here might tell us something interesting about the
prospective takeup at any given price point.

Relatedly: how many members do we have at £6, and how many at £12?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Telegraph runs story ...

2010-01-02 Thread Andrew Gray
2010/1/2 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
 In the end, a story appeared today:

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6916596/WB-Yeats-and-Sigmund-Freud-works-posted-on-Wikipedia-as-copyright-expires.html

 Well done indeed to Mike and Andrew in particular for pushing on past
 all the obstacles.

I like the addition at the end of last year / next year. Something to
include for next year's one, I think - having an In the past few
years... line gives the opportunity to cram in some extra names the
journalist may recognise.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day

2009-12-21 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/12/21 geni geni...@gmail.com:
 January 1st is Public Domain Day. That is the day that all the works
 of everyone who died in 1939 enter the public domain. No I'm not the
 only one to note this creative commons apparently picks up on it:

 http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/11920

 The most interesting name I'm aware of this year is Howard Carter who
 created a lot of paintings and drawings of Egyptian archaeological
 artifacts. I'm trying to put together more names but I was wounder if
 it was something a press release could be built around?

Sigmund Freud and W. B. Yeats are the two particularly influential
authors this year, I believe - neither UK, but both life+70
jurisdictions.

Arthur Rackham, Havelock Ellis and Ford Madox Ford are both
interesting, though neither is particularly well-known now.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day

2009-12-21 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/12/21 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com:
 Draft, then.

 What do Howard Carter, discoverer of the tomb of King Tut, author Zane
 Grey of the cowboy classic Riders of the Purple Sage, and sexologist
 Havelock Ellis have in common? The answer is that they all died in 1939,
 meaning that on New Year's Day all their works are free from copyright.

I would be careful with using Grey as an example - he's definitely
American, and their status is complicated. I'm not sure we can say
the copyright status of a randomly chosen Grey work will change in a
couple of weeks...

If we're going to use a non-British author, I'd go with Yeats.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Celtic languages Internet project

2009-09-20 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/9/20 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:

 Don't we already have a Celtic language Wikipedia? Looking around,
 there seems to be a fair number of varieties of Celtic languages
 [1] , including Gaelic and Welsh. Can anyone clarify this - perhaps
 they were meaning Manx?

The Celtic languages - as Casey says, this is a linguistic group
with common ancestry, not a single language. There hasn't been a
Celtic language per se for a long, long time :-)

In no particular order:

* Welsh
* Scots Gaelic
* Cornish
* Manx
* Irish
* Breton

All but one (Breton) are spoken in the UK. All have Wikipedias, mostly
of a decent but small size (5000+ pages); Welsh is pretty flourishing.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Foundation-l] sue and be damned FOI to NPG

2009-07-16 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/7/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:

 That said, your approach is most certainly particularly amusing :-D I
 expect they'd claim these were commercial works and the core of their
 business or somesuch.

I know this is a bit late, but I just wanted to note this point - FOIA
is not a perfect tool. You *can't* request something under the Act
which is reasonably accessible to the applicant, which is explicitly
defined to include things they have to pay for.

It may seem an attractive idea, but if they'll sell you a digital copy
regardless, then FOI will run into a brick wall at speed.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: Interview request

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/5/31 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com:
 We have recently been approached by a company asking for someone to be video
 interviewed on the subject of how Wikipedia can be used in universities.

 The company is a spin off from Imperial College in London and is partly
 public owned and partly privately owned. They are currently preparing
 courses in new technology, which are expected to be used by over 100 higher
 education institutions around the world.

Sorry, I'm a little confused - is this using Wikipedia in higher
education, or using wikis in higher education?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] OPSI Unlocking Request

2009-05-20 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/5/20 Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com:
 Good find, I added my name too. But see the comment left by John
 Sheridan - 
 http://www.opsi.gov.uk/unlocking-service/CommentView/guid/bc8d9078-135a-4a75-98c9-9c9e0cb92bef#commentstart
 It looks like some company called Dods owns the copyright on those photos.

/Dods/ are publishers of Dods' Parliamentary Compaion, the standard
reference work on, well, Parliament. I'm guessing that they take these
pictures for their book, and license them back to the parliamentary
website (etc).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Charity application rejected

2009-04-24 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/4/25 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:

 The law is fine, it's just being misapplied. Writing an encyclopaedia
 doesn't increase knowledge, it's a tertiary source, all the knowledge
 is already in existence. It disseminates knowledge, something I
 consider to be pretty synonymous with education. I think at this
 point we need a lawyer. I'll look up that case and see if I can find
 the details, but really we need someone can that combat legal nonsense
 with more legal nonsense - I can only illegal nonsense!

I'm not sure I agree with the CC's decision, but it isn't a
particularly quixotic one in the context of existing charity law, and
I can see where it came from. Consider, for example, the notes at C4
here: http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/publicbenefit/pbeduc.asp#c

However, just giving people information is not necessarily educating
them. The key is whether it is provided in such a way (however
structured) that it is capable of educating them, rather than just
adding to factual information.

I think there are ways of interpreting this sort of thing so as to
encompass what we do, but it's not unreasonable for them to interpret
it differently. Note that there isn't really anything like us in any
of the lists of examples!

Approaching this from the position that the law is fundamentally being
misapplied, and we need to tell them they're Doing It Wrong, is
probably just going to set us up for some angry letters both ways, a
quick fall, and being filed as vexatious - and the last thing we
want is for us to blow the chance fully!

A more effective approach would, perhaps, be to closely compare our
submission to the regulations, and see if the use of a different
perspective on what we plan to do, or a broadening of our aims, would
perhaps fit more comfortably with the (slightly odd) letter of the
regulations. After all, we have to fit into charity law *as it exists*
if we're going to be a charity at all!

(...and on which note, hrm. if we're not a charity, what are the
practical implications of that? I assume with our small turnover it
wouldn't make a *vast* difference, but...)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] wikipedia.org.uk - who is Chris Brooking?

2009-04-08 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/4/8 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
 Hi all,

 I'm trying to find out who owns the UK Wikipedia domains. As best I
 can tell, wikipedia.org.uk is owned by Chris Brooking, registered
 via http://www.webconexion.net . Does anyone know who Chris Brooking
 is and how I can get in contact with him?

He posted to this list about this very topic in January 2006 :-)

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2006-January/000236.html

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Statement of Persons Nominated

2009-04-06 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/4/6 James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com:
 WIKI UK LTD (WIKIMEDIA UK)
 ELECTION OF DIRECTORS
 STATEMENT OF PERSONS NOMINATED

 At the close of nominations, the following individuals stood validly
 nominated for election as Directors of Wiki UK Limited:

 Thomas Dalton
 Zeyi He
 Thomas Holden
 Michael Peel
 Joseph Seddon
 Andrew Turvey
 Steve Virgin
 Paul Williams

Hurrah, we broke seven!

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