Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Om,

Thanks for your concern. Yes, the problem of copyright with different
Indian digital libraries collection is quite well known. The most famous
example is the Digital Library of India, which was closed down due to
copyright infringement.

The difference between NDLI and other Indian digital libraries is that NDLI
primarily acts as a portal and link for different digital libraries.
Sometimes, materials which are not otherwise accessible because of
different restrictions in different digital libraries can be accessed when
we login through NDLI. This is because specific contracts are signed
between NDLI and those digital libraries.

So, unlike other digital libraries, they do not host the copyrighted
material on their website. They just link to other websites, from where you
can get the content.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 06:35 omshivaprak...@gmail.com, <
omshivaprak...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We have had great problem with earlier digital library projects which
> government undertook. 36 scan centers/hubs millions of books without
> copyright verification (note: many won’t go through proper copyright
> process in India) and the entire project was shutdown making the works
> inaccessible to public. Virtual library
> http://www.nvli.in/ has been down after burning millions in meetings.
> http://bharatavani.in/ Which was supposed to be the multilingual digital
> library for 100+ Indian language only hosts copyrighted content and
> multilevel locked in process to download and use content - even for
> public/research purposes. It’s very much needed to see if they really mark
> the content under cc-by-sa. Hope they really understand this.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:43 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
>> Yes.  I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement.  PD
>> metadata is not "their content", really.
>>
>>A.
>>
>> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>>
>> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>>
>> Wikimedia Foundation 
>>
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
>> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think there is a problem here.
>>>
>>> From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them
>>> is PD (expired copyright).
>>>
>>> The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing.
>>>
>>> If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a
>>> violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be
>>> able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder.
>>>
>>> Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish
>>> there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download
>>> therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The
>>> permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to
>>> copyright.
>>>
>>> Ankry
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ankry,

 As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
 contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.

>>>
>>> This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire
>>> world, not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is
>>> important NDLI understand this, too.
>>>
>>>A.
>>>
>>> Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will
 not be uploaded in any way.

 Regards,
 Bodhisattwa


 On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:

> I'm just looking at them.
>
> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their
> ToU.
> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may
> be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
> Do we care?
>
> Ankry
>
>
> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled 
> as
> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>
> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community
>> that National Digital Library of India
>> 
>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding 

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Asaf,

We acknowledge your concern.

When we had meetings with NDLI, we specifically discussed about "their
contents" to be published under CC-BY-SA, if we are going to include them
on Wikimedia Commons and they primarily agreed on that. They have very good
knowledge about different Creative Commons license terms and they are one
of the advocates of RightsStatements license, so it was easier to talk
about these areas with them.

I hope, we can sort this issue out. Let's see.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 02:43 Asaf Bartov,  wrote:

> Yes.  I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement.  PD
> metadata is not "their content", really.
>
>A.
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>
> Wikimedia Foundation 
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry  wrote:
>
>> I don't think there is a problem here.
>>
>> From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them
>> is PD (expired copyright).
>>
>> The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing.
>>
>> If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a
>> violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be
>> able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder.
>>
>> Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish
>> there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download
>> therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The
>> permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to
>> copyright.
>>
>> Ankry
>>
>>
>> On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ankry,
>>>
>>> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
>>> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.
>>>
>>
>> This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire
>> world, not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is
>> important NDLI understand this, too.
>>
>>A.
>>
>> Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not
>>> be uploaded in any way.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:
>>>
 I'm just looking at them.

 They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their
 ToU.
 So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may
 be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
 Do we care?

 Ankry


 On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:

 Hi,

 That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
 I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
 multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
 French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!

 Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?

 Cheers, ~nicolas

 Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
 bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community
> that National Digital Library of India
> 
> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
> Ministry
> of Human Resource Development
> 
> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
> 
> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
> literature metadata.
>
> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>
>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>
>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to
>crowdsource
>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource
>websites.
>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to
>Wikidata and Wikisource.
>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around
>other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>
> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding
> was finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering
> for Digital Library Design 2019,  an
> international 

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[omshivaprak...@gmail.com]

We have had great problem with earlier digital library projects which
government undertook. 36 scan centers/hubs millions of books without
copyright verification (note: many won’t go through proper copyright
process in India) and the entire project was shutdown making the works
inaccessible to public. Virtual library
http://www.nvli.in/ has been down after burning millions in meetings.
http://bharatavani.in/ Which was supposed to be the multilingual digital
library for 100+ Indian language only hosts copyrighted content and
multilevel locked in process to download and use content - even for
public/research purposes. It’s very much needed to see if they really mark
the content under cc-by-sa. Hope they really understand this.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:43 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Yes.  I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement.  PD
> metadata is not "their content", really.
>
>A.
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>
> Wikimedia Foundation 
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry  wrote:
>
>> I don't think there is a problem here.
>>
>> From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them
>> is PD (expired copyright).
>>
>> The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing.
>>
>> If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a
>> violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be
>> able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder.
>>
>> Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish
>> there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download
>> therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The
>> permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to
>> copyright.
>>
>> Ankry
>>
>>
>> On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ankry,
>>>
>>> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
>>> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.
>>>
>>
>> This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire
>> world, not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is
>> important NDLI understand this, too.
>>
>>A.
>>
>> Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not
>>> be uploaded in any way.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:
>>>
 I'm just looking at them.

 They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their
 ToU.
 So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may
 be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
 Do we care?

 Ankry


 On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:

 Hi,

 That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
 I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
 multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
 French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!

 Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?

 Cheers, ~nicolas

 Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
 bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community
> that National Digital Library of India
> 
> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
> Ministry
> of Human Resource Development
> 
> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
> 
> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
> literature metadata.
>
> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>
>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>
>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to
>crowdsource
>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource
>websites.
>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to
>Wikidata and Wikisource.
>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around
>other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>
> After 

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Asaf Bartov]

Yes.  I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement.  PD
metadata is not "their content", really.

   A.

Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)

Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities

Wikimedia Foundation 

Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
https://donate.wikimedia.org


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry  wrote:

> I don't think there is a problem here.
>
> From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them is
> PD (expired copyright).
>
> The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing.
>
> If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a
> violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be
> able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder.
>
> Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish there
> under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download therefrom
> for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The permission is to
> be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to copyright.
>
> Ankry
>
>
> On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ankry,
>>
>> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
>> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.
>>
>
> This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire
> world, not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is
> important NDLI understand this, too.
>
>A.
>
> Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not
>> be uploaded in any way.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bodhisattwa
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm just looking at them.
>>>
>>> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their
>>> ToU.
>>> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may
>>> be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
>>> Do we care?
>>>
>>> Ankry
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
>>> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
>>> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
>>> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>>>
>>> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>>>
>>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>>
>>> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
 Hi all,

 It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community
 that National Digital Library of India
 
 (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
 (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
 (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
 Ministry
 of Human Resource Development
 
 project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
 
 which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
 literature metadata.

 Through this understanding, we will work together on:

- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.

- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to
crowdsource
metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource
websites.
- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to
Wikidata and Wikisource.
- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.

 After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding
 was finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering
 for Digital Library Design 2019,  an
 international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at 
 IIT
 Delhi
 ,
 where WMF was a technical partner.

 Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
 mailing lists.

 Regards,
 Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
 CIS-A2K
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Ankry]

I don't think there is a problem here.

From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them 
is PD (expired copyright).


The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing.

If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a 
violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be 
able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder.


Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish 
there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download 
therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The 
permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to 
copyright.


Ankry


On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote:



On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal 
mailto:bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Ankry,

As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use
their contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.


This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire 
world, not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is 
important NDLI understand this, too.


   A.

Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing
will not be uploaded in any way.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry mailto:ankry.w...@onet.pl>> wrote:

I'm just looking at them.

They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content
in their ToU.
So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit
permission may be against their ToU (even if consistent with
copyright law).
Do we care?

Ankry


On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:

Hi,

That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is
really multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with
Breton (mislabelled as French) and I saw a lot of other
minority languages!

Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need
help?

Cheers, ~nicolas

Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal
mailto:bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Hi all,

It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia
community that National Digital Library of India

(NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and
Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) have signed a tripartite
non-binding Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for a
2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is
a Ministry of Human Resource Development


project, developed at IIT Kharagpur


which aims to build a virtual repository of learning
resources and literature metadata.

Through this understanding, we will work together on:

  * integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI
website. 
  * building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website
to crowdsource
metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on
Wikisource websites.
  * importing relevant contents and data from NDLI
website to Wikidata and Wikisource.
  * identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities
around other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.

After months of discussion among the three parties, the
understanding was finalized during International
Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for Digital Library
Design 2019,  an
international conference organized collaboratively by
NDLI and UNESCO at IIT Delhi

,
where WMF was a technical partner.

Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in
different relevant mailing lists.

Regards,
Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
CIS-A2K
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Asaf Bartov]

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal 
wrote:

> Hi Ankry,
>
> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.
>

This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire world,
not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is important
NDLI understand this, too.

   A.

Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not
> be uploaded in any way.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:
>
>> I'm just looking at them.
>>
>> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their
>> ToU.
>> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may be
>> against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
>> Do we care?
>>
>> Ankry
>>
>>
>> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
>> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
>> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
>> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>>
>> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>>
>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>
>> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community that 
>>> National
>>> Digital Library of India
>>> 
>>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
>>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
>>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
>>> Ministry
>>> of Human Resource Development
>>> 
>>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
>>> 
>>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
>>> literature metadata.
>>>
>>> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>>>
>>>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>>>
>>>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
>>>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource
>>>websites.
>>>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
>>>and Wikisource.
>>>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
>>>Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>>>
>>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding
>>> was finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering
>>> for Digital Library Design 2019,  an
>>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT
>>> Delhi
>>> ,
>>> where WMF was a technical partner.
>>>
>>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
>>> mailing lists.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
>>> CIS-A2K
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Ankry,

As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their
contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed. Also, anything not
compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not be uploaded in any
way.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry  wrote:

> I'm just looking at them.
>
> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their ToU.
> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may be
> against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).
> Do we care?
>
> Ankry
>
>
> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>
> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community that 
>> National
>> Digital Library of India
>> 
>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
>> Ministry
>> of Human Resource Development
>> 
>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
>> 
>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
>> literature metadata.
>>
>> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>>
>>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>>
>>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
>>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
>>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
>>and Wikisource.
>>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
>>Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>>
>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
>> finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
>> Digital Library Design 2019,  an
>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT
>> Delhi
>> ,
>> where WMF was a technical partner.
>>
>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
>> mailing lists.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
>> CIS-A2K
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Nicolas,

Thanks for your reply and interest in the partnership.

It was discussed during the Delhi meeting that as a first step, NDLI will
come up with a unique authority control for the authors listed in their
website and we will match them with corresponding Wikidata items, thus
starting to link Wikidata content with NDLI website. The process was
expected to initiate from January, but due to some other other commitments
from NDLI as a government agency, it has not been started yet.

As a major part of this partnership will largely depend on the data model
stated in Wikidata WikiProject Books
, we need works
and their editions on different Wikisource projects properly linked with
Wikidata exactly following the data model. For Indian language Wikisources,
I can say, the linkages are still very low. It would be great, if we can
collaboratively engage as many as Wikisource communities as possible to
start linking their contents on Wikidata. We definitely need suggestions
and all kinds of help there organizing this.

We appreciate if highly experienced community members like you share inputs
and insight w.r.t. this collaboration. Please feel free to do so
pro-actively at any time.

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On Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 15:49 Nicolas VIGNERON, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!
>
> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community that 
>> National
>> Digital Library of India
>> 
>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation
>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding
>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a 
>> Ministry
>> of Human Resource Development
>> 
>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
>> 
>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
>> literature metadata.
>>
>> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>>
>>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>>
>>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
>>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
>>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
>>and Wikisource.
>>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
>>Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>>
>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
>> finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
>> Digital Library Design 2019,  an
>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT
>> Delhi
>> ,
>> where WMF was a technical partner.
>>
>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
>> mailing lists.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
>> CIS-A2K
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Ankry]

I'm just looking at them.

They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their ToU.
So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may 
be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law).

Do we care?

Ankry


On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:

Hi,

That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really 
multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton 
(mislabelled as French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!


Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?

Cheers, ~nicolas

Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal 
mailto:bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>> a 
écrit :


Hi all,

It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia
community that National Digital Library of India

(NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia
Foundation (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum
of Understanding (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital
Library of India is a Ministry of Human Resource Development

project, developed at IIT Kharagpur

which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
literature metadata.

Through this understanding, we will work together on:

  * integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.

  * building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to
crowdsource
metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource
websites.
  * importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to
Wikidata and Wikisource.
  * identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around
other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.

After months of discussion among the three parties, the
understanding was finalized during International Symposium on
Knowledge Engineering for Digital Library Design 2019,
 an international conference
organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT Delhi
,
where WMF was a technical partner.

Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different
relevant mailing lists.

Regards,
Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
CIS-A2K
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

Hi,

That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really
multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as
French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages!

Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help?

Cheers, ~nicolas

Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community that 
> National
> Digital Library of India
>  (NDLI),
> Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) have
> signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for a
> 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a Ministry of
> Human Resource Development
> 
> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
> 
> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
> literature metadata.
>
> Through this understanding, we will work together on:
>
>- integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
>
>- building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
>metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
>- importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata
>and Wikisource.
>- identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
>Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.
>
> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
> finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
> Digital Library Design 2019,  an
> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT
> Delhi ,
> where WMF was a technical partner.
>
> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
> mailing lists.
>
> Regards,
> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
> CIS-A2K
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[Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi all,

It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community
that National
Digital Library of India
 (NDLI),
Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) have
signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for a
2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a Ministry of
Human Resource Development

project, developed at IIT Kharagpur

which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and
literature metadata.

Through this understanding, we will work together on:

   - integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website.
   
   - building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to crowdsource
   metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource websites.
   - importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to Wikidata and
   Wikisource.
   - identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other
   Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.

After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding was
finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for
Digital Library Design 2019,  an international
conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at IIT Delhi
, where
WMF was a technical partner.

Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant
mailing lists.

Regards,
Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
CIS-A2K
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