Re: [WISPA] OMG...
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. And there are other financial and economic advisors who believe the opposite - that some short-term deficit spending will help bail the economy out. I don't have a doctorate in macroeconomics, and I'm assuming you don't either, so our opinions are both worth approximately nothing. In any event, it's probably off-topic for this list. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Free Coverage maps? --- An idea
What if WISPA were to secure a grant for say $300,000 as part of the stimulus package? For that money I would do proper RF mapping as a one shot deal for every WISP who wanted to in the next year. I would also build a proper map server with a database that indicates which areas are covered by which WISP's and web enable the application. All the RF studies would go in to the National WISP Map (replacing the circles being used now). The map data would be shared with the USDA and any other entity charged with giving out loans or money to deploy rural broadband in areas that are supposedly not served. WISPA would look good as a unifying organization for the industry. WISP's would benefit in that they would not have taxpayer funded projects come in as competitors. They would also have a free source of leads because this tool would be used by the consumer to look for service. The consumer would benefit because they would have one place to look for service for ALL WISP's. The industry would win because we can do proper demographic studies and compete against Telco's and Cable Companies in legislative actions. This would not mean perpetual free mapping for WISP's, just a one time full network map. For those WISP's who do not want their network data to be known, you will be in a much worse position when competition comes in to your market with free money to build from the taxpayer. Right now the cellular/PCS industry is grabbing all the money they can claiming they can serve the rural markets with high speed internet. While they are free to build out, they should not be getting money under the premise that an area has no broadband if indeed they do. The only way to stop this is to SHOW the people in the government areas have broadband! Thoughts? Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Coverage maps? --- An idea
Brian, Connected Nation got $5million twice. Why shouldn't WISPs and Webster Wireless mapping? There is a huge advantage to apply for the grant as a non-profit, and then contracting it out to a commercial company like wireless mapping, or joint application. There are two steps... Identifying the grant opportunity. Applying for the opportunity. You should definately be looking for the grant opportunity. When that is identified, I bet we can all put our minds togeather to get the grant written. I would heavilly offer support for WISPA to be involved and supportive of the relationship. Are there existing programs? Or do we need to wait for Stimulus package to launch? I'd also recommend WISPA vendor member consultants to get involved writing grants for training and education. I believe there was some provisions for that in the bill. But I don't remember exactly, because I was not focusing on that. For example, I'd love the mapping studies to approved for WISPs investgiating coverage of areas, regardless of whether someone end up qualifying for the service area for a grant. There could also be an education peice, for WISPA itself to get a grant. For example, if WISPA wanted to be an offical source for educating the puiblic over the next year, on how WISPs can help. Possibly a good way to fund ED type staff positions. I hope the grant committee, will keep an open eye for all possibilities. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: memb...@wispa.org; motor...@wispa.org; WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] Free Coverage maps? --- An idea What if WISPA were to secure a grant for say $300,000 as part of the stimulus package? For that money I would do proper RF mapping as a one shot deal for every WISP who wanted to in the next year. I would also build a proper map server with a database that indicates which areas are covered by which WISP's and web enable the application. All the RF studies would go in to the National WISP Map (replacing the circles being used now). The map data would be shared with the USDA and any other entity charged with giving out loans or money to deploy rural broadband in areas that are supposedly not served. WISPA would look good as a unifying organization for the industry. WISP's would benefit in that they would not have taxpayer funded projects come in as competitors. They would also have a free source of leads because this tool would be used by the consumer to look for service. The consumer would benefit because they would have one place to look for service for ALL WISP's. The industry would win because we can do proper demographic studies and compete against Telco's and Cable Companies in legislative actions. This would not mean perpetual free mapping for WISP's, just a one time full network map. For those WISP's who do not want their network data to be known, you will be in a much worse position when competition comes in to your market with free money to build from the taxpayer. Right now the cellular/PCS industry is grabbing all the money they can claiming they can serve the rural markets with high speed internet. While they are free to build out, they should not be getting money under the premise that an area has no broadband if indeed they do. The only way to stop this is to SHOW the people in the government areas have broadband! Thoughts? Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1925 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 7:37 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Free Coverage maps? --- An idea
That works for me... Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Webster To: memb...@wispa.org ; motor...@wispa.org ; WISPA List Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:32 AM Subject: [WISPA Members] Free Coverage maps? --- An idea What if WISPA were to secure a grant for say $300,000 as part of the stimulus package? For that money I would do proper RF mapping as a one shot deal for every WISP who wanted to in the next year. I would also build a proper map server with a database that indicates which areas are covered by which WISP's and web enable the application. All the RF studies would go in to the National WISP Map (replacing the circles being used now). The map data would be shared with the USDA and any other entity charged with giving out loans or money to deploy rural broadband in areas that are supposedly not served. WISPA would look good as a unifying organization for the industry. WISP's would benefit in that they would not have taxpayer funded projects come in as competitors. They would also have a free source of leads because this tool would be used by the consumer to look for service. The consumer would benefit because they would have one place to look for service for ALL WISP's. The industry would win because we can do proper demographic studies and compete against Telco's and Cable Companies in legislative actions. This would not mean perpetual free mapping for WISP's, just a one time full network map. For those WISP's who do not want their network data to be known, you will be in a much worse position when competition comes in to your market with free money to build from the taxpayer. Right now the cellular/PCS industry is grabbing all the money they can claiming they can serve the rural markets with high speed internet. While they are free to build out, they should not be getting money under the premise that an area has no broadband if indeed they do. The only way to stop this is to SHOW the people in the government areas have broadband! Thoughts? Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -- ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these tales I win, heads you lose kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Here is what it is showing:- --- Fri Jan 30 12:06:26 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:49 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js -- Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these tales I win, heads you lose kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Alvarion
Does anyone have any experience with Alvarion wireless products? Al WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion
Yes. We've been using them sine they were BreezeCom back in 97. If you have some questions, feel free to contact me off-list. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Al Stewart Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion Does anyone have any experience with Alvarion wireless products? Al WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
MY Apologies... Replied back to wrong email :) Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Here is what it is showing:- --- Fri Jan 30 12:06:26 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:49 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js -- Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these tales I win, heads you lose kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Had me going for a minute... thought this was some obscure joke, something to do with the end of the (economic) world. Police.. Guns.. Masks.. I just didn't get it :) Randy Faisal Imtiaz wrote: MY Apologies... Replied back to wrong email :) Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Here is what it is showing:- --- Fri Jan 30 12:06:26 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:28 2009] [error] [client 98.202.225.44] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:34 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:38 2009] [error] [client 67.60.216.153] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:45 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/masks.js [Fri Jan 30 12:06:49 2009] [error] [client 74.130.83.134] File does not exist: /hsphere/local/home/policeguns/policeguns.com/CFIDE/scripts/cfform.js -- Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these tales I win, heads you lose kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) That's what I meant by tails I win, heads you lose ;-). Chuck Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these tales I win, heads you lose kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion
Similarly, we use Alvarion. Feel free to contact me also if Cameron doesn't have an answer for you. Chuck On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote: Yes. We've been using them sine they were BreezeCom back in 97. If you have some questions, feel free to contact me off-list. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Al Stewart Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion Does anyone have any experience with Alvarion wireless products? Al WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lobbying Donations So Far
Crossroads got RUS money in my area, even though they overlap various providers. We had filed in response to their public notice too. I didn't push it as they are now contracted to be a tenant on one of my towers if they actually deploy. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 05:45:22PM -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote: Just a note. The USDA/RUS will not currently loan/grant in areas where they have existing loans/grants in competing services. They spell this out on their website, but I know one guy that mentioned he got around it someway. IMO, this rule needs changing. Some of those getting funding are taking their own sweet time in deploying anything if at all. This is something your lawyers need to keep in mind when working this through with the Washington guys. If its not changed or addressed in the Stimulus package, those of you like me that compete with rural telco cooperatives, will be SOL. Also, if you compete with another company that has received Broadband Grants/Loans from the RUS, you may be in the same boat. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:42:31 -0500 The following WISPA members have stepped up to the plate with donations for our Broadband Stimulus Lobbying Effort. The WISPA Board would like to thank all those who have donated so far and encourage others to do the same. I can't stress enough the importance of this cause as this package races through Congress and the lobbying efforts that will still need to be done as rule making and dispursement procedures are defined at the NTIA, USDA and the FCC once the Legislation is passed. Matt LarsenVistabeam $500 Mark Ackaway Myakka Technologies$1500 George Rogato OregonFast $1000 Nathan Stooke WisperISP $1000 Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Inter.net $500 Don RennerNetSurfUSA $500 John Scrivner MVN.Net $500 Total Raised Thus Far $5500 Additionally, I would like to welcome the new member requests that have come in since January 1st. This brings the total new members to 51 for January. That is by far the best month we have ever had for new memberships. Welcome to all and thank you for supporting WISPA. Dori told me this morning that she is going to try to catch up on her WISPA invoicing tonight. It may be a late night for her! J To those members who have paid their invoices but have not been added to the w...@wispa.org or memb...@wispa.org mailing lists, please reply to the bo...@wispa.org list and we will get you added. 1. Perry D. VincentLouisiana Radio Communications, Inc. 2. Craig House Total Wireless Communications 3. Joe Kelley East Texas DSL 4. Gregg Smith Westcom Broadband, Inc 5. Kevin Peterson Peterson Technology Group, LLC 6. Steve Tillson Kricket Internet Service 7. Charles Bender Skynet Broadband 8. MIke Kelley Mountain Radio Systems, Inc. 9. Thomas Poss Eduro Networks LLC 10.Andrew Lomo Amlalo NetSol Ghana Ltd 11.Donald M. DawsonTCC Networks 12.Craig Van Ham EVSL 13.Steve WengerBertram Corporation 14.Chad KoehlerKoehlerPro Wireless 15.Mark Radabaugh Amplex 16.Dave Cleveland DMCI Broadband 17.Brian W. Gortney, IIPannex Corporation 18.Francis Gilbert InformatiqueEb 19.Jim Palmer JJ Communications,LLC 20.Daniel Jastram iWispr LLC 21.Jason McKemie Veloxinet, Inc. 22.Derich Schultz MidwayNet, LLC. 23.Mike Chadwick Portative Technologies 24.Eric ShippamWeb-Breeze Networks, LLC 25.Jim Weatherred Wyoming Wireless Internet LLC 26.NetLogix 27.Alessio GaravanoISPARG S.A. 28.Wade LeBeau SITCO 29.Cecil Allen EZ NET LA 30.Elmer Sterrett Ezznet, Inc. 31.John MacDonald Public Utility District No. 1 of Okanogan County 32.Cliff Olle Eccentrix Wireless 33.Dave Wainwright PCI Broadband 34.Pete Davis Davis Voice Data 35.Brandon Jolley Directcommunication 36.Doug Clark TXOX Communications 37.David Blood SpeedyQuick 38.Warren King Meritel Group Inc. 39.Brad NeibaurSafelink Internet 40.Paul Conlin Blaze Broadband 41.Tushar PatelECPI 42.Adam Brodel SmarterBroadband 43.Mike Greenfield Wireless Technology Solutions 44.Ronny Doran Newsource Broadband 45.Nate Burke Blast Communications
Re: [WISPA] Updated National WISP Map
I'm not sure of the process for updating the map. Midcoast Internet is what I presume to be the circle over Rockland ME. We actually cover a much bigger area. We go from Belfast at the north, SE to harborside, south over the ocean to Matinicus, west over the ocean to Monhegan, NW to bath, NE to somerville, and east to Belfast. Sort of the bounds of our coverage. Thanks! On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:15:07AM -0500, Brian Webster wrote: The national WISP mapping initiative has been updated. This version contains data provided by Matt Larsen off the WISP Directory site as of 1/21/09. I also added some actual WISP network footprints from my clients who gave permission. To date the land area covered equals 539,133 square miles. You can view the map here: http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm Next step is to compile demographic data. That's going to take some work...state by state. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
How could it be off-topic? This list is soliciting money to lobby for pork barrell spending. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. And there are other financial and economic advisors who believe the opposite - that some short-term deficit spending will help bail the economy out. I don't have a doctorate in macroeconomics, and I'm assuming you don't either, so our opinions are both worth approximately nothing. In any event, it's probably off-topic for this list. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [Board] Lobbying Fund Drive Update
Donations slowed down today. I really want everyone to do some soul searching over the weekend. We need more assistance from everyone on this fundraising project. Ask not what WISPA can do for you, but what can I do for WISPA! Ok, that was corny, but it has been a long week J Less than 10% of the WISPA members have stepped up and made donations to this cause and we are nearly half way to our goal. I have done enough fundraising in my time to realize that the last push for is the most important. The pledges are smaller and it takes longer to accumulate, but it is still very important to keep asking, even for the smallest donations. Anyone who wants to make an anonymous pledge, please let me know and I will list the pledge amount with Anonymous as the name. These donations will be used to fund Lobbying Efforts directly correlated to the Broadband Stimulus Act and resulting directives on funding dispersal. These agencies include the FCC, NTIA and the USDA. As rulemaking, policy and procedure is being defined, we will have a chance to help guide the rulemaking. Tom DeReggi and his Legislative team are committed to working with Rini-Coran through this process. I have also committed time in my calendar to go to DC as needed. WISPA has already committed funds to the TVWhitespaces lobbying, which is ongoing at this time. This funding request is above and beyond that. I know a lot of the list below personally and I know that many of the amounts pledged were probably more than they could afford. It just goes to show the character of those people and the faith they are putting in WISPA to help them insure their success in the future. Please send me an email with your pledge as I would like to wrap this up by midweek next week. Respectively, Rick Harnish Lobbying Fund Drive Goal is $30,000 Matt Larsen Vistabeam $250 Mark AckawayMyakka Technologies $1500 George Rogato OregonFast $1000 Nathan Stooke WisperISP $1000 Brian RohrbacherReliable Inter.net $500 Don Renner NetSurfUSA $1000 John Scrivner MVN.Net $500 Gino Villarini Aeronet $1000 Mike HammettIntelligent Computer Solutions $50 Charles Bender Skynet Broadband$500 Craig Baird Xpressweb $500 Dave Giles Invisimax $500 Jay Dominique Access Paging $500 David Sovereen Mercury Network $1000 Mark Radabaugh Amplex $500 Cliff Leboeuf Computer Sales Services, Inc. $500 Steve BarnesRCWIFI $250 Craig House Total Wireless Communications $250 Roland HouinFourway $500 Dustin Jurman Rapid Systems $500 Ron Wallace Tiger Internet $250 Marlon Schafer Odessa Office Equipment $500 Total Raised Thus Far $13050 January New Member Goal is 60. Current count is 55. New Member Applicants Today William Lawver Central Valley Broadband H. Rusty Irvin StratusWave Communications Reeder Dossett Farm to Market Broadband Gerard Dupont III Shelby Broadband Michael Bryant AIR802 (Vendor) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [Board] Lobbying Fund Drive Update
Also, one more quick thing it would be helpful if you would post the Paypal address and mailing address at the bottom of every one of your update emails... to make it easier for people. You could even post a direct link to the Paypal account inside your email. :) Travis Microserv Rick Harnish wrote: Donations slowed down today. I really want everyone to do some soul searching over the weekend. We need more assistance from everyone on this fundraising project. Ask not what WISPA can do for you, but what can I do for WISPA! Ok, that was corny, but it has been a long week J Less than 10% of the WISPA members have stepped up and made donations to this cause and we are nearly half way to our goal. I have done enough fundraising in my time to realize that the last push for is the most important. The pledges are smaller and it takes longer to accumulate, but it is still very important to keep asking, even for the smallest donations. Anyone who wants to make an anonymous pledge, please let me know and I will list the pledge amount with Anonymous as the name. These donations will be used to fund Lobbying Efforts directly correlated to the Broadband Stimulus Act and resulting directives on funding dispersal. These agencies include the FCC, NTIA and the USDA. As rulemaking, policy and procedure is being defined, we will have a chance to help guide the rulemaking. Tom DeReggi and his Legislative team are committed to working with Rini-Coran through this process. I have also committed time in my calendar to go to DC as needed. WISPA has already committed funds to the TVWhitespaces lobbying, which is ongoing at this time. This funding request is above and beyond that. I know a lot of the list below personally and I know that many of the amounts pledged were probably more than they could afford. It just goes to show the character of those people and the faith they are putting in WISPA to help them insure their success in the future. Please send me an email with your pledge as I would like to wrap this up by midweek next week. Respectively, Rick Harnish Lobbying Fund Drive Goal is $30,000 Matt Larsen Vistabeam $250 Mark AckawayMyakka Technologies $1500 George Rogato OregonFast $1000 Nathan Stooke WisperISP $1000 Brian RohrbacherReliable Inter.net $500 Don Renner NetSurfUSA $1000 John Scrivner MVN.Net $500 Gino Villarini Aeronet $1000 Mike HammettIntelligent Computer Solutions $50 Charles Bender Skynet Broadband$500 Craig Baird Xpressweb $500 Dave Giles Invisimax $500 Jay Dominique Access Paging $500 David Sovereen Mercury Network $1000 Mark Radabaugh Amplex $500 Cliff Leboeuf Computer Sales Services, Inc. $500 Steve BarnesRCWIFI $250 Craig House Total Wireless Communications $250 Roland HouinFourway $500 Dustin Jurman Rapid Systems $500 Ron Wallace Tiger Internet $250 Marlon Schafer Odessa Office Equipment $500 Total Raised Thus Far $13050 January New Member Goal is 60. Current count is 55. New Member Applicants Today William Lawver Central Valley Broadband H. Rusty Irvin StratusWave Communications Reeder Dossett Farm to Market Broadband Gerard Dupont III Shelby Broadband Michael Bryant AIR802 (Vendor) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [Board] Lobbying Fund Drive Update
Travis Johnson wrote: Also, one more quick thing it would be helpful if you would post the Paypal address and mailing address at the bottom of every one of your update emails... to make it easier for people. You could even post a direct link to the Paypal account inside your email. :) Travis Microserv I'll second that. -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector
Digi-key should have it http://www.digi-key.com/ We have an account with digikey but thumbing through there huge catalog I have not found anything that looks like it. Do you know what this connector is called? Thanks. Matt I have a UPS with an external battery connector. Apparently the 72 volt battery packs it connects too have been discountinued. Can anyone tell me where to get a plug that fits it? Attached is a picture of the jack. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Here's the deal. You can't stop the spending. You can't. All we can do is take the spending in a direction that helps the most people and is less wasteful. There are two options. Wasteful spending with benefits and wasteful spending with no benefits. Getting rid of wasteful spending is not an option. Brian rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: How could it be off-topic? This list is soliciting money to lobby for pork barrell spending. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" d...@mvn.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. And there are other financial and economic advisors who believe the opposite - that some short-term deficit spending will help bail the economy out. I don't have a doctorate in macroeconomics, and I'm assuming you don't either, so our opinions are both worth approximately nothing. In any event, it's probably off-topic for this list. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector
Matt, Did you look on ebay, etc for a dead cabinet? It sort of looks like a liebert one, but the manual I have for their current ones shows a 5 pin connector. -John On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Matt wrote: I have a UPS with an external battery connector. Apparently the 72 volt battery packs it connects too have been discountinued. Can anyone tell me where to get a plug that fits it? Attached is a picture of the jack. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to help anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even tighter. After nearly a decade of having a LOT of money on credit cards (some as high as 30%) we're paying off the first one in the next few days. Another one should fall in 2 or 3 months. By the end of the year, all things staying as they are now, we'll have nearly all of it paid off. Till now I've been building and building and building. Now I'm gonna pull that back a bit and go into survival mode. Even though things are NOT tight for us right now. If things really do go to hell in a hand basket I want to be ready for it. If they only go to hell I want to be ready to pick up my competitors at the fire sales. More government debt and/or money to my competitors won't make me spend money. And spending is what it'll take to get things rolling nicely again. So here's my plan. I'm gonna try to get this abomination stopped. If (actually when) I fail at that I'll work to make sure that I get as much of it as I can. They WILL spend it. Might as well come my direction. In the old days our forefathers ran to America to get away from oppressive government. Where are we supposed to run? Anyone want to help me start a colony on the moon? deep sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) That's what I meant by tails I win, heads you lose ;-). Chuck Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these tales I win, heads you lose kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Yeah, in a cold house on an old worn out mattress. While your competitors eat caviar and stay warm with $500/hour hookers. It's not free money Mark. But our kids are somehow going to have to pay it back someday. Are you going to leave them in poverty when that happens? Or are you going to do what it takes (knowing that you have no control over the rules of the game) to make sure that they can pay their share back and still live a decent life? Quit whining and go run for office! This can NOT be fixed from the outside in. We have to get inside to fix it. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Hell no. I won't take free money without strings. I have to sleep at night. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Hi, As I mentioned before, I don't want the hand-out either. The problem is, I don't want my competition to get any free money either (including cable or DSL). So, what do we do? The only option I see is to ask for our fair share, so we can stay on even ground. Travis Microserv rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion
I have some on the network. So far I like my Alvarion gear. It's over prices but it's also rock solid. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion Does anyone have any experience with Alvarion wireless products? Al WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector
Open it up and solder on a new connector Maybe one like this: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.smarthome.com/images/4239tw.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.smarthome.com/4239TW/Tamper-Resistant-Decorator-Outlet-White/p.aspxusg=__JojwS2WxON7HcawcWKSQgAGlQvM=h=275w=275sz=4hl=enstart=55um=1tbnid=fNggp8F3yY5VhM:tbnh=114tbnw=114prev=/images%3Fq%3Doutlet%26start%3D54%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN Just a thought. marlon Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector I have a UPS with an external battery connector. Apparently the 72 volt battery packs it connects too have been discountinued. Can anyone tell me where to get a plug that fits it? Attached is a picture of the jack. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector
Did you look on ebay, etc for a dead cabinet? It sort of looks like a liebert one, but the manual I have for their current ones shows a 5 pin connector. Its a su3000xl UPS but the battery packs I find on ebay have a different connector. I ordered 3 battery packs for the unit new 2 months ago. They stated it was a special order but I have feeling its discountinued. If I can just find a connector odds are I can just add my own batteries. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bad install days
We use mainly indoor cat 5. When the temp drops much below 20* the insulation gets pretty hard. It'll more around quite a bit but a sharp bend will sometimes cause it to break. When it's too windy I worry about the ladder getting blown over (that's happened more than once). If it's foggy and I can't see the towers I also can't see what might be in the way. I'm a pretty fair weather installer. Anything that *might* cause me to go back is avoided if at all possible. Anything that *might* get me hurt is avoided at all times. Period. That's part of why I have a 65' bucket truck. No one else out here has one that I know of. They climb those old TV towers etc. I use a truck. Much much safer. People don't like getting rescheduled, sometimes 3 or 4 times, but we tell them that we got our reputation by doing a good job the first time, not by cutting every corner we could. Nor do we do stupid things (anymore :-)) and have installs that just don't work right. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:57 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bad install days I was curious to know what the other WISPs do when installs are scheduled and the weather is bad. The problems I see are safety, not seeing the tower, bitter cold and it's just very uncomfortable to work in. Today we have a good foot of snow with ice covering everything - looks like bubblewrap on my car. I just told everyone to stay home but call their appointments and reschedule and play in the snow with their kids, but prepare to work a half day if things lighten up. -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector
Look really closely at the connector and see if you can see the manufacturer name printed in the connector housing. Then you can start searching for it through Digikey, Mouser, etc. Mouser's web search is so much easier to use than Digikey's. Matt wrote: Did you look on ebay, etc for a dead cabinet? It sort of looks like a liebert one, but the manual I have for their current ones shows a 5 pin connector. Its a su3000xl UPS but the battery packs I find on ebay have a different connector. I ordered 3 battery packs for the unit new 2 months ago. They stated it was a special order but I have feeling its discountinued. If I can just find a connector odds are I can just add my own batteries. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] rack mountable 48V injector for non 802.3af compliant devices
I've got a situation where I have a lot of POE access points that need Hyperlink injectors because the devices draw more power than regular 802.3af compliant devices. e.g. this doodad Hyperlink PS4820-POE (48...@20w) http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20900 I don't want to buy a ton of these and nail these on the boards in the phone room and take up a million power plugs, so is there any one big thing that I can buy and rack? Ideally, I'd have one big power brick/plug to worry about and then have to worry only about one ethernet cable in and one ethernet out for each PoE access point. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] rack mountable 48V injector for non 802.3af compliant devices
How many? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a situation where I have a lot of POE access points that need Hyperlink injectors because the devices draw more power than regular 802.3af compliant devices. e.g. this doodad Hyperlink PS4820-POE (48...@20w) http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20900 I don't want to buy a ton of these and nail these on the boards in the phone room and take up a million power plugs, so is there any one big thing that I can buy and rack? Ideally, I'd have one big power brick/plug to worry about and then have to worry only about one ethernet cable in and one ethernet out for each PoE access point. --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Ditto on this! What connection speed to the net can we get on the moon? -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to help anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even tighter. After nearly a decade of having a LOT of money on credit cards (some as high as 30%) we're paying off the first one in the next few days. Another one should fall in 2 or 3 months. By the end of the year, all things staying as they are now, we'll have nearly all of it paid off. Till now I've been building and building and building. Now I'm gonna pull that back a bit and go into survival mode. Even though things are NOT tight for us right now. If things really do go to hell in a hand basket I want to be ready for it. If they only go to hell I want to be ready to pick up my competitors at the fire sales. More government debt and/or money to my competitors won't make me spend money. And spending is what it'll take to get things rolling nicely again. So here's my plan. I'm gonna try to get this abomination stopped. If (actually when) I fail at that I'll work to make sure that I get as much of it as I can. They WILL spend it. Might as well come my direction. In the old days our forefathers ran to America to get away from oppressive government. Where are we supposed to run? Anyone want to help me start a colony on the moon? deep sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) That's what I meant by tails I win, heads you lose ;-). Chuck Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these tales I win, heads you lose kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not
Re: [WISPA] OMG...
Signal loss should be pretty low. Sure we could easily do 80GHz so need some 80Ghz ptmp radios so we can get a few hundred mbit each ;) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:06:19 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Ditto on this! What connection speed to the net can we get on the moon? -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to help anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even tighter. After nearly a decade of having a LOT of money on credit cards (some as high as 30%) we're paying off the first one in the next few days. Another one should fall in 2 or 3 months. By the end of the year, all things staying as they are now, we'll have nearly all of it paid off. Till now I've been building and building and building. Now I'm gonna pull that back a bit and go into survival mode. Even though things are NOT tight for us right now. If things really do go to hell in a hand basket I want to be ready for it. If they only go to hell I want to be ready to pick up my competitors at the fire sales. More government debt and/or money to my competitors won't make me spend money. And spending is what it'll take to get things rolling nicely again. So here's my plan. I'm gonna try to get this abomination stopped. If (actually when) I fail at that I'll work to make sure that I get as much of it as I can. They WILL spend it. Might as well come my direction. In the old days our forefathers ran to America to get away from oppressive government. Where are we supposed to run? Anyone want to help me start a colony on the moon? deep sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) That's what I meant by tails I win, heads you lose ;-). Chuck Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen. No, let's make it $100,000. Now, I'm serious! I'll even give you 2:1 odds. I'll give you $200,000 if it collapses. Deal? (Of course, ha gotta love these tales I win, heads you lose kind of bets ;-). Chuck On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:58 PM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency depreciates to worthlessness. I can't believe a single one of us would be in favor of any of the pork barrell bills in Congress, much less raising money to lobby FOR them. You want to lobby AGAINST there being any pork bills, I'll donate if I can. If you're going to lobby for them, I can only surmise than none of you care about our future so long as you get your handout NOW. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
