Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT forBullet M5HP

[RickG]

I want feedback on those!

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> They have the AirGrid now.  :-p
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> Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT
> forBullet
> M5HP
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> > Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
> > of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.
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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[RickG]

I see the hose clamps on everything from street lights to pole lights, from
city streets to interstates.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:10 PM, AJ  wrote:

> I kinda ruled out stainless hose clamps after seeing a solar panel fall
> from
> the leg of a Trylon tower about a decade ago... Granted, there were two
> sharp points (inside ends of the L shaped tower leg) that probably
> contributed to the failure in high winds, but in this case where it's only
> wood, that might work.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bob Moldashel  wrote:
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> > Get a piece of 1 1/4" conduit and bend like this:
> >
> >l
> >l
> >l
> > l
> > l
> > l
> > l
> > l
> >
> >
> > And strap it to the pole with stainless hose clamps
> >
> > If you are just mounting an omni you can get away with 1"
> >
> > -B-
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> >
> >
> >
> > AJ wrote:
> > > Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> > > utility pole?
> > >
> > > We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> > > wooden utility pole.
> > >
> > > I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting
> it
> > > directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> > > overkill for a single omni.
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

[RickG]

I hear $1500 for a gig!

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent
> rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going
> $400/100 megabit 1 year contract.  Only available at Cogent and carrier
> neutral data centers.  These facilities are listed on their web site under
> the network heading.  A complete building list (and not eligible for this
> promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access.
>
> Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a
> significant number of them do.  I encourage you to build your network out to
> these facilities.
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> Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent
> is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots.  I'm sure I could find
> someone to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3, InterNAP,
> XO, MZima, etc., etc.  It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage
> you to have more than one.
>
> Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to
> Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider,
> etc.  These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent.
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Robert West]

But I'm looking at that Backfire dish.  Looks good.

Grids are okay, I just have issues with the splatter.  On the flip side, I
have two CPEs connected to a backhaul grid WAY off its path and towards the
backside just cause it was the best signal I could get.  

Bob-



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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
Bullet M5HP

I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P

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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West
wrote:

> I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap.
If
> I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid.  They work find but in some
> installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter.
>
> Bob-
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> Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:42 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
> Bullet M5HP
>
> Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
> of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.
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> TIA
>
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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[Robert West]

Mike has used some decent looking chain mounts.  Hey Mike, any
suggestions???

Bob-

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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:30 PM
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I just use good lag screws on the standard (or long) sat arms most of the 
time.
marlon

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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?


> Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> utility pole?
>
> We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> wooden utility pole.
>
> I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
> directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> overkill for a single omni.
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> Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] telco cabinet in unserved area

[Robert West]

I had a dream once about something similar.  Then I woke up and discovered
that I am the one who really installed it.  If hot glue was involved then I
could certainly take credit for this one.

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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:15 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] telco cabinet in unserved area

Roadside SLC/wiring cabinet.

http://www.f64.nu/gallery2007/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=album182&i
d=DSC7491

We're looking to do some wireless in the neighborhood here. Looks like 
the phone company has a tough time just keeping dialtone working 
here. Judging by the ducttape marks on the right, it looks like it's 
been this way for a while.

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Re: [WISPA] ftp for transfer test

[Dennis Burgess]

don't have a FTP site, but  MT test box...

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Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:46 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] ftp for transfer test

Anyone out there have a FTP server and at least 50M unused pipe (in
each direction) that I can test a 50Mb/s pipe with?

I've got some definite problems with an older pipe that I would like
to get fixed, I just need a test to somewhere outside of my network.

Upload testing (download to you) is where I'm seeing an issue.

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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

[Dennis Burgess]

I have  Sprint phone for $99 a month, for everything, used to use like
10k in minutes at one point in time.   Never had anythig more expensive.
I also used a hacked ROM that lets me ad-hoc my phone to my laptop for
net, not bad getting 2 meg though your cell phones wifi! :)

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Behalf Of Tracy Tippett
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:40 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

Verizon has offered unlimited cell and data plans for several years now


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To: "WISPA General List" ,

Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:10:57 -0800
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

Read the fine print in the contracts. With AT&T, if you call people 
outside AT&T's network too much, they will raise your rates.

John

Josh Luthman wrote:
> I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough
> customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top
3%
> heaviest users and give them the boot.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> While watching TV today, I noticed several adds for both Verizon and
AT&T
>> now offering UNLIMITED voice service for $69 per line. We also have a
>> regional cell provider (Syringa Wireless) that is doing $75 UNLIMITED
>> everything (voice, texts, internet) per line.
>>
>> It would seem all the cell carriers are moving to an unlimited
system...
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
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>> -
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

[Tracy Tippett]

I have pushed the cellular side into the thousands of minutes without an issue 
"so far" but, I didn't opt for the unlimited data so I have a 5 gb package


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Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:50:02 -0600
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

It's probably no different than any other carrier's "unlimited".  It's 
really not.  There's probably a 5 GB data limit and 4k minute voice limit.


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From: "Tracy Tippett" 
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> Verizon has offered unlimited cell and data plans for several years now
>
>
> --Original Mail--
> From: "John Thomas" 
> To: "WISPA General List" ,
>
> Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:10:57 -0800
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing
>
> Read the fine print in the contracts. With AT&T, if you call people
> outside AT&T's network too much, they will raise your rates.
>
> John
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough
>> customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top 3%
>> heaviest users and give them the boot.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> While watching TV today, I noticed several adds for both Verizon and 
>>> AT&T
>>> now offering UNLIMITED voice service for $69 per line. We also have a
>>> regional cell provider (Syringa Wireless) that is doing $75 UNLIMITED
>>> everything (voice, texts, internet) per line.
>>>
>>> It would seem all the cell carriers are moving to an unlimited system...
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Official List of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Josh Luthman]

I've got two of those used at the office.  Two for the price of one.  N
female connectors.

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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Tracy Tippett <
tracytipp...@swiftwireless.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Pat,
>
> Depending on your gain needs you may want to consider the Backfire
> Parabolic Solid Dish.  This unit boasts 17dbi of gain and only takes 10" in
> diameter.  The interference rejection of a solid dish is superior to the
> grid designs.
>
> Best part about this unit is it's sub $40 pricing
>
> --Original Mail--
> From: "Pat O'Connor" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:42:01 -0800
> Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
> Bullet M5HP
>
> Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
> of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.
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> TIA
>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

[Mike Hammett]

It's probably no different than any other carrier's "unlimited".  It's 
really not.  There's probably a 5 GB data limit and 4k minute voice limit.


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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:40 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

> Verizon has offered unlimited cell and data plans for several years now
>
>
> --Original Mail--
> From: "John Thomas" 
> To: "WISPA General List" ,
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> Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:10:57 -0800
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing
>
> Read the fine print in the contracts. With AT&T, if you call people
> outside AT&T's network too much, they will raise your rates.
>
> John
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough
>> customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top 3%
>> heaviest users and give them the boot.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> While watching TV today, I noticed several adds for both Verizon and 
>>> AT&T
>>> now offering UNLIMITED voice service for $69 per line. We also have a
>>> regional cell provider (Syringa Wireless) that is doing $75 UNLIMITED
>>> everything (voice, texts, internet) per line.
>>>
>>> It would seem all the cell carriers are moving to an unlimited system...
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Official List of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[WISPA] ftp for transfer test

[Marco Coelho]

Anyone out there have a FTP server and at least 50M unused pipe (in
each direction) that I can test a 50Mb/s pipe with?

I've got some definite problems with an older pipe that I would like
to get fixed, I just need a test to somewhere outside of my network.

Upload testing (download to you) is where I'm seeing an issue.

Marco

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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

[Tracy Tippett]

Verizon has offered unlimited cell and data plans for several years now


--Original Mail--
From: "John Thomas" 
To: "WISPA General List" ,

Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:10:57 -0800
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

Read the fine print in the contracts. With AT&T, if you call people 
outside AT&T's network too much, they will raise your rates.

John

Josh Luthman wrote:
> I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough
> customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top 3%
> heaviest users and give them the boot.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> While watching TV today, I noticed several adds for both Verizon and AT&T
>> now offering UNLIMITED voice service for $69 per line. We also have a
>> regional cell provider (Syringa Wireless) that is doing $75 UNLIMITED
>> everything (voice, texts, internet) per line.
>>
>> It would seem all the cell carriers are moving to an unlimited system...
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> -
>> Official List of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - afmug.com
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Tracy Tippett]

I have sold thousands of the grids from Pac Wireless with little if any 
complaints

Tracy Tippett

--Original Mail--
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Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:42:01 -0800
Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet 
M5HP

Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase 
of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.

TIA

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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Robert West]

Pasadena wireless has the new AirGrids in stock.  I'm gonna test them myself
as a CPE, we'll see how they perform.  

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
Bullet M5HP

I use the Pac grids with the feed that looks the same as the solid
dish feed, not the little metal reflector. The reflectors keep falling
off in wind, birds taking them, etc (we pulled FOUR out of a birds
nest after the client saw the bird take it). This client only lost 3,
we assume one is from another site down the road.

I am very interested in getting my hands on the new ubnt units with a
built in dish, yummies.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Pat O'Connor  wrote:
> I want to use the Bullet for a CPE.  Sorry, I should have clarified what
> I was looking for in my original post.
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West
wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap.
 If
>>> I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid.  They work find but in
some
>>> installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:42 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
>>> Bullet M5HP
>>>
>>> Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
>>> of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

[John Thomas]

Read the fine print in the contracts. With AT&T, if you call people 
outside AT&T's network too much, they will raise your rates.

John

Josh Luthman wrote:
> I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough
> customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top 3%
> heaviest users and give them the boot.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> While watching TV today, I noticed several adds for both Verizon and AT&T
>> now offering UNLIMITED voice service for $69 per line. We also have a
>> regional cell provider (Syringa Wireless) that is doing $75 UNLIMITED
>> everything (voice, texts, internet) per line.
>>
>> It would seem all the cell carriers are moving to an unlimited system...
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> -
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Jeromie Reeves]

I use the Pac grids with the feed that looks the same as the solid
dish feed, not the little metal reflector. The reflectors keep falling
off in wind, birds taking them, etc (we pulled FOUR out of a birds
nest after the client saw the bird take it). This client only lost 3,
we assume one is from another site down the road.

I am very interested in getting my hands on the new ubnt units with a
built in dish, yummies.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Pat O'Connor  wrote:
> I want to use the Bullet for a CPE.  Sorry, I should have clarified what
> I was looking for in my original post.
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap.  If
>>> I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid.  They work find but in some
>>> installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:42 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
>>> Bullet M5HP
>>>
>>> Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
>>> of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Josh Luthman]

You're talking about an external antenna.  I can't imagine even a 2' dish at
a customer's house.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Pat O'Connor  wrote:

> I want to use the Bullet for a CPE.  Sorry, I should have clarified what
> I was looking for in my original post.
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
> > I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > --- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap.
>  If
> >> I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid.  They work find but in
> some
> >> installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter.
> >>
> >> Bob-
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
> >> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:42 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
> >> Bullet M5HP
> >>
> >> Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
> >> of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Pat O'Connor]

I want to use the Bullet for a CPE.  Sorry, I should have clarified what 
I was looking for in my original post.


Josh Luthman wrote:
> I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West 
> wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap.  If
>> I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid.  They work find but in some
>> installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:42 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for
>> Bullet M5HP
>>
>> Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
>> of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Pat
>>
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[WISPA] Mcallen, TX

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone cover Mcallen, TX? We have a customer that is there for a month
or so in an RV park there and having some issues getting service.

Anyone?

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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Josh Luthman]

I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P

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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West wrote:

> I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap.  If
> I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid.  They work find but in some
> installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter.
>
> Bob-
>
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Robert West]

I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap.  If
I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid.  They work find but in some
installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter.

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Bullet M5HP

Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase 
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Scott Reed]

For my PTP links I am replacing grids with dishes.  Much lower noise and 
more stable signal levels.

I have use PacWireless grids with good success.  Only issue is that 
several have apparently had water get inside the element.

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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I just use good lag screws on the standard (or long) sat arms most of the 
time.
marlon

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Subject: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?


> Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> utility pole?
>
> We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> wooden utility pole.
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> I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
> directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> overkill for a single omni.
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[WISPA] telco cabinet in unserved area

[jp]

Roadside SLC/wiring cabinet.

http://www.f64.nu/gallery2007/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=album182&id=DSC7491

We're looking to do some wireless in the neighborhood here. Looks like 
the phone company has a tough time just keeping dialtone working 
here. Judging by the ducttape marks on the right, it looks like it's 
been this way for a while.

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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[jp]

I'd first check for the stuff electricians mount buried entrance 
conduits to the pole with like used for the plastic conduit in this 
photo.

http://www.f64.nu/gallery2007/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=album182&id=DSC7495

We mounted a couple antennas to a pole using a pole-pipe mounting kit 
from tessco. You can't see the actual hardware in the photo, but this is 
how it ended up.

http://www.f64.nu/gallery2007/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album182&id=DSC7498

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:49:45AM -0700, AJ wrote:
> Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> utility pole?
> 
> We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> wooden utility pole.
> 
> I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
> directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> overkill for a single omni.
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT forBullet M5HP

[Mike Hammett]

They have the AirGrid now.  :-p


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Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT forBullet 
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> Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Josh Luthman]

I've used the Pac 5ghz grids on Trangos.  They're great at removing
interference picked up but that 60* integral panel.

For the most part, though, it's all about the ARC enclosures with MT.  The
ARC panels are great performers.

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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Michael Baird  wrote:

> Well how about what not to use, ha. We deployed a 30 db Poynting as a
> test at a new backhaul, readings weren't that great let it run for a few
> weeks and it got worse (they catch a bunch of wind), replaced with a
> 26db Andrew from stock and picked up 4-5 db on both ends. I'm looking
> for some better grids too (Andrews are expensive).
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Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Michael Baird]

Well how about what not to use, ha. We deployed a 30 db Poynting as a 
test at a new backhaul, readings weren't that great let it run for a few 
weeks and it got worse (they catch a bunch of wind), replaced with a 
26db Andrew from stock and picked up 4-5 db on both ends. I'm looking 
for some better grids too (Andrews are expensive).

Regards
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[WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

[Pat O'Connor]

Just looking to see what everyone else is using.  I'm in the test phase 
of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out.

TIA

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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

[Bret Clark]

Had more trouble with our AT&T link then our Cogent link...going on
two years and only 1 unexpected outage...pays to have BGP!

But we do connect to them wirelessly using a Ceragon that runs right to
a Colo...so nice to bypass the ILEC's ridiculous prices for fiber!!!

Bret


Jon Auer wrote:

  2nd that. Cogent in Wisconsin has been solid for us for the past two
years or so. I have not heard bad things about their network out of
Illinois either. Some people have problems with them in other markets.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
  
  
   I have seen a network feeding 80 megs of cogent for about 3 months now.
No complaints for the users.  But this network also has a BGP feed from
Tier1.

   We have servers on a cogent link in downtown Chicago.  No problems with
them and there are 200+ web-sites hosted on those boxes.

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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:39:53 -0600
To: 
Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent
rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going
$400/100 megabit 1 year contract.  Only available at Cogent and carrier
neutral data centers.  These facilities are listed on their web site under
the network heading.  A complete building list (and not eligible for this
promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access.

Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a
significant number of them do.  I encourage you to build your network out to
these facilities.

Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent
is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots.  I'm sure I could find
someone to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3, InterNAP,
XO, MZima, etc., etc.  It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage
you to have more than one.

Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to
Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider,
etc.  These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent.


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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[Robert West]

Duct Tape.

Bob-


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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

Satellite arm and lag bolts.

2" mast, drill 1/4" mount holes, through bolt with lags.

Pipe to Pipe standoffs.  Discard clamp from one side.  Lag bolt to pole.

AJ wrote:
> Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> utility pole?
>
> We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> wooden utility pole.
>
> I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
> directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> overkill for a single omni.
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> Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[Scott Parsons]

http://www.fab-corp.com/product.php?productid=2896&cat=0&page=1

One of these might do the trick.

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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:50 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
utility pole?

We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
wooden utility pole.

I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

[Jon Auer]

2nd that. Cogent in Wisconsin has been solid for us for the past two
years or so. I have not heard bad things about their network out of
Illinois either. Some people have problems with them in other markets.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>    I have seen a network feeding 80 megs of cogent for about 3 months now.
> No complaints for the users.  But this network also has a BGP feed from
> Tier1.
>
>    We have servers on a cogent link in downtown Chicago.  No problems with
> them and there are 200+ web-sites hosted on those boxes.
>
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> From: Mike Hammett 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:39:53 -0600
> To: 
> Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>
> I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent
> rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going
> $400/100 megabit 1 year contract.  Only available at Cogent and carrier
> neutral data centers.  These facilities are listed on their web site under
> the network heading.  A complete building list (and not eligible for this
> promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access.
>
> Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a
> significant number of them do.  I encourage you to build your network out to
> these facilities.
>
> Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent
> is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots.  I'm sure I could find
> someone to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3, InterNAP,
> XO, MZima, etc., etc.  It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage
> you to have more than one.
>
> Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to
> Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider,
> etc.  These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent.
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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[Josh Luthman]

We just used the universal mounts and screwed them into the pole.
These were at a campground - not sure who they belonged to but no
complaints.

On 1/25/10, lakel...@gbcx.net  wrote:
> Get some conduit straps and screw them into the pole
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> -Original Message-
> From: AJ 
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:10:10
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?
>
> I kinda ruled out stainless hose clamps after seeing a solar panel fall from
> the leg of a Trylon tower about a decade ago... Granted, there were two
> sharp points (inside ends of the L shaped tower leg) that probably
> contributed to the failure in high winds, but in this case where it's only
> wood, that might work.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bob Moldashel  wrote:
>
>> Get a piece of 1 1/4" conduit and bend like this:
>>
>>l
>>l
>>l
>> l
>> l
>> l
>> l
>> l
>>
>>
>> And strap it to the pole with stainless hose clamps
>>
>> If you are just mounting an omni you can get away with 1"
>>
>> -B-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> AJ wrote:
>> > Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
>> > utility pole?
>> >
>> > We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
>> > wooden utility pole.
>> >
>> > I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting
>> > it
>> > directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
>> > overkill for a single omni.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[Scott Reed]

Satellite arm and lag bolts.

2" mast, drill 1/4" mount holes, through bolt with lags.

Pipe to Pipe standoffs.  Discard clamp from one side.  Lag bolt to pole.

AJ wrote:
> Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> utility pole?
>
> We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> wooden utility pole.
>
> I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
> directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> overkill for a single omni.
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

[Justin Wilson]

I have seen a network feeding 80 megs of cogent for about 3 months now.
No complaints for the users.  But this network also has a BGP feed from
Tier1.

We have servers on a cogent link in downtown Chicago.  No problems with
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From: Mike Hammett 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:39:53 -0600
To: 
Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent
rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going
$400/100 megabit 1 year contract.  Only available at Cogent and carrier
neutral data centers.  These facilities are listed on their web site under
the network heading.  A complete building list (and not eligible for this
promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access.

Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a
significant number of them do.  I encourage you to build your network out to
these facilities.

Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent
is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots.  I'm sure I could find
someone to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3, InterNAP,
XO, MZima, etc., etc.  It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage
you to have more than one.

Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to
Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider,
etc.  These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent.


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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[lakeland]

Get some conduit straps and screw them into the pole
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-Original Message-
From: AJ 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:10:10 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

I kinda ruled out stainless hose clamps after seeing a solar panel fall from
the leg of a Trylon tower about a decade ago... Granted, there were two
sharp points (inside ends of the L shaped tower leg) that probably
contributed to the failure in high winds, but in this case where it's only
wood, that might work.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bob Moldashel  wrote:

> Get a piece of 1 1/4" conduit and bend like this:
>
>l
>l
>l
> l
> l
> l
> l
> l
>
>
> And strap it to the pole with stainless hose clamps
>
> If you are just mounting an omni you can get away with 1"
>
> -B-
>
>
>
>
> AJ wrote:
> > Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> > utility pole?
> >
> > We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> > wooden utility pole.
> >
> > I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
> > directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> > overkill for a single omni.
> >
> > Thanks!
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[WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

[Mike Hammett]

I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep 
informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 
megabit 1 year contract.  Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data 
centers.  These facilities are listed on their web site under the network 
heading.  A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is 
available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access.

Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant 
number of them do.  I encourage you to build your network out to these 
facilities.

Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, 
but every carrier has their good and bad spots.  I'm sure I could find someone 
to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, 
etc., etc.  It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have 
more than one.

Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to 
Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, 
etc.  These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent.


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Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[AJ]

I kinda ruled out stainless hose clamps after seeing a solar panel fall from
the leg of a Trylon tower about a decade ago... Granted, there were two
sharp points (inside ends of the L shaped tower leg) that probably
contributed to the failure in high winds, but in this case where it's only
wood, that might work.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bob Moldashel  wrote:

> Get a piece of 1 1/4" conduit and bend like this:
>
>l
>l
>l
> l
> l
> l
> l
> l
>
>
> And strap it to the pole with stainless hose clamps
>
> If you are just mounting an omni you can get away with 1"
>
> -B-
>
>
>
>
> AJ wrote:
> > Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> > utility pole?
> >
> > We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> > wooden utility pole.
> >
> > I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
> > directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> > overkill for a single omni.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

[Dennis Burgess]

We have done both.  we have done hardware based switching with fiber
networks, etc.  But we also have done a 32 site routed homeland security
networks.  BOth have their advantages.  In the case of the hardware
switching that we did, we did this cause it is simply a fiber ring.  In
the case of the homeland security network, we had every site connect to
at least 3 other sites, so there were many paths involved, and we wanted
the best path even with links that were not GigE.  

In the case of that last ring we deployed, it was simply cheaper to do
10/100 switching than routing it all.  Of course, we also were not
sending internet data either.  

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations


We currently use 100% Linux based routing and switching solutions. Works

great. (Our Custom, MIkrotik, Imagestream, whatever, its all the same 
concept).
All tower devices plug directly into a port on our integrated Linux 
switch/router.

The reason I was asking was.we are about to do a major network
overhaul, 
and considering injecting some Switches in-line.
There can be many network design reasons to seperate switching and
rounting 
devices at each HOP/Cell tower, (to many possibilties to list).

An example config Consider City A,B,C, and City B had GIg-E
connections 
to A and C.  At City B a Switch could be used to connect both Gigabit
radios 
to create a layer2 backbone. And then a Router could still be used at
teh 
City B tower which router had 1 gig connection to the switch also. (Or
could 
even have two Giga Switch port connections). Then other sectors could be
put 
directly to router ports.  That would also allow for multiple OSPF 
connection such as between non-adjacent Cities, if when appropriate.

So my intent was not to compare Linux to non-Linux Switches and which to

use, but instead to decide that if seperating Switch and Router
components 
to seperate devices which features the switch component would be
responsible 
for (versus the router) in the new design.  My topic only referring to
core 
Backbone Network design.

We have three options.

1) Radio1 to Router1 to Radio2.   (Layer3 backbone)

2) Radio1 to switch1 to Router1 Port1 to Router1 Port2 to switch2 to
Radio2. 
(LAyer3 backbone w/ switches to enable injecting (bridge) additional
devices 
before or after the router.)

3) Radio1 to Switch1 to Router1 to Switch1(same)  to radio2.  (LAyer2 
backbone, with LAyer3 routing at each tower for distribution).

The above is actually much more elaborate than simplified above
considering 
often several backbones travel through a cell site, and redundant paths.

There can be other considerations such as Where is QOS done when 
multiple methods are needed? For example, a backbone might want to 
prioritize based on application service type. Where as a Router might
want 
to prioritize based on Customer Class.  I could invision LAyer2 switches

prioritizing VOIP, and Routers doing customer bandwidth mangement. Or 
switching can add ability to better integrate redundant routers. For 
example, without a switch a Gigabit radio cant be plugged into both a 
primary and backup router. (Unless its a APEX that allows use of both
Fiber 
and CAT5 at same time on seperate PVLANS)

What we have learned is that we need intelligence per Tower, if anything

just for testing performance. So we will always have high end Linux
router 
devices at each tower to perform those tests.
The question we are deciding is should the second device needing less 
intelligence be a switch or linux device.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Olsen" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations


> Not that I'm aware of. I'm sure some of the higher end switches do it
> (cisco..ect..)
> RouterOS always does it for me.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Brevard Wireless
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
>
> 
>
> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>
> Can any of these GB switches (or any brand) give realtime statistics
on
> mbps
> passing through a router port?
>
> I recognize SNMP can query a port's packet count, and the math done
via a
> third party utility. But I'm refering to logging in via telnet or web,
and
>
> having an easy weay t

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[Bob Moldashel]

Get a piece of 1 1/4" conduit and bend like this:

l
l
l
l
l
l
l
l


And strap it to the pole with stainless hose clamps

If you are just mounting an omni you can get away with 1"

-B-




AJ wrote:
> Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
> utility pole?
>
> We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
> wooden utility pole.
>
> I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
> directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
> overkill for a single omni.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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[WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

[AJ]

Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden
utility pole?

We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a
wooden utility pole.

I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it
directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit
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Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

[Tom DeReggi]

We currently use 100% Linux based routing and switching solutions. Works 
great. (Our Custom, MIkrotik, Imagestream, whatever, its all the same 
concept).
All tower devices plug directly into a port on our integrated Linux 
switch/router.

The reason I was asking was.we are about to do a major network overhaul, 
and considering injecting some Switches in-line.
There can be many network design reasons to seperate switching and rounting 
devices at each HOP/Cell tower, (to many possibilties to list).

An example config Consider City A,B,C, and City B had GIg-E connections 
to A and C.  At City B a Switch could be used to connect both Gigabit radios 
to create a layer2 backbone. And then a Router could still be used at teh 
City B tower which router had 1 gig connection to the switch also. (Or could 
even have two Giga Switch port connections). Then other sectors could be put 
directly to router ports.  That would also allow for multiple OSPF 
connection such as between non-adjacent Cities, if when appropriate.

So my intent was not to compare Linux to non-Linux Switches and which to 
use, but instead to decide that if seperating Switch and Router components 
to seperate devices which features the switch component would be responsible 
for (versus the router) in the new design.  My topic only referring to core 
Backbone Network design.

We have three options.

1) Radio1 to Router1 to Radio2.   (Layer3 backbone)

2) Radio1 to switch1 to Router1 Port1 to Router1 Port2 to switch2 to Radio2. 
(LAyer3 backbone w/ switches to enable injecting (bridge) additional devices 
before or after the router.)

3) Radio1 to Switch1 to Router1 to Switch1(same)  to radio2.  (LAyer2 
backbone, with LAyer3 routing at each tower for distribution).

The above is actually much more elaborate than simplified above considering 
often several backbones travel through a cell site, and redundant paths.

There can be other considerations such as Where is QOS done when 
multiple methods are needed? For example, a backbone might want to 
prioritize based on application service type. Where as a Router might want 
to prioritize based on Customer Class.  I could invision LAyer2 switches 
prioritizing VOIP, and Routers doing customer bandwidth mangement. Or 
switching can add ability to better integrate redundant routers. For 
example, without a switch a Gigabit radio cant be plugged into both a 
primary and backup router. (Unless its a APEX that allows use of both Fiber 
and CAT5 at same time on seperate PVLANS)

What we have learned is that we need intelligence per Tower, if anything 
just for testing performance. So we will always have high end Linux router 
devices at each tower to perform those tests.
The question we are deciding is should the second device needing less 
intelligence be a switch or linux device.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Olsen" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations


> Not that I'm aware of. I'm sure some of the higher end switches do it
> (cisco..ect..)
> RouterOS always does it for me.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Brevard Wireless
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
>
> 
>
> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>
> Can any of these GB switches (or any brand) give realtime statistics on
> mbps
> passing through a router port?
>
> I recognize SNMP can query a port's packet count, and the math done via a
> third party utility. But I'm refering to logging in via telnet or web, and
>
> having an easy weay to watch the throughput passing?
>
> The reason I'm asking is that this is relevent for Bandwdith testing of
> Backbones, where one can always run an end to end bandwdith test, but taht
>
> is meaning less if the pre-existing capacity used is not identified. This
> is
> one reason we use Linux routers at each hop, is we can watch all traffic
> per
> hop. Wondering if any switches can relicate that for us?
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Thomas" 
> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>
>> Thanks, that is good to know. It looks like the 1810G-24 can be upstream
>> powered using POE. That could be a good thing for a WISP.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Nick Olsen wrote:
>>> The 1810G-24 can. The 1800-24 & 8 can't.
>>>
>>> Nick Olsen
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: "John Thomas" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:20 AM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>> Try to find out what ma

[WISPA] Port Orange, FL coverage

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[Matt Larsen - Lists]

Part 6 of The Story of Medicine Bow is now online at 
http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/.   This segment describes the equipment 
we decided to use for the deployment and the planning that went into the 
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Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

[Dennis Burgess]

If you are looking for Fiber based Switches, I have a number of
industrial DC switches, that include Fiber ports etc.  We just got done
doing a 62 node fiber ring.  I think they were around 900 bucks a piece,
10/100 only in this case, but included 30km fiber ports (SM).  So they
did not have to have anything else.  But there is other Gigabit version
and SFP versions as well.  

---
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MTCTCE, MTCUME 
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

Not that I'm aware of. I'm sure some of the higher end switches do it 
(cisco..ect..)
RouterOS always does it for me.

Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x106




From: "Tom DeReggi" 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

Can any of these GB switches (or any brand) give realtime statistics on 
mbps 
passing through a router port?

I recognize SNMP can query a port's packet count, and the math done via
a 
third party utility. But I'm refering to logging in via telnet or web,
and 

having an easy weay to watch the throughput passing?

The reason I'm asking is that this is relevent for Bandwdith testing of 
Backbones, where one can always run an end to end bandwdith test, but
taht 

is meaning less if the pre-existing capacity used is not identified.
This 
is 
one reason we use Linux routers at each hop, is we can watch all traffic

per 
hop. Wondering if any switches can relicate that for us?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - 
From: "John Thomas" 
To: ; "WISPA General List"

Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

> Thanks, that is good to know. It looks like the 1810G-24 can be
upstream
> powered using POE. That could be a good thing for a WISP.
>
> John
>
>
> Nick Olsen wrote:
>> The 1810G-24 can. The 1800-24 & 8 can't.
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Brevard Wireless
>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: "John Thomas" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:20 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>
>> Try to find out what mac address is on which port-you can't do that 
with
>> the HP 1800's, you need something higher up the food chain.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
>>
>>> Nick-
>>> Thanks for the info - I'm looking at specifications between the HP
>>>
>> ProCurve 1810G Switch Series http://bit.ly/5g2F0B and HP ProCurve
2810
>> Switch Series http://bit.ly/5Nqvwc
>>
>>> It seems much of the capabilities are the same, with the 2810
offering 
a
>>>
>> bit more horsepower at about 2x the cost - plus the 2810 series
offers a 

>> 48
>> port version.  Any experience with the 2810 series?  Thanks in
advance.
>>
>>> `S
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

On
>>>
>> Behalf Of Nick Olsen
>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:55 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>> I've always been a fan of the HP switches, The 1800-24G is nice, But

the
>>>
>> new one I'm liking is the 1810G-24
>>
>>> 24 Port Gig, Port mirroring...ect..
>>>
>>> Nick Olsen
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:27 AM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>> Yes, you are correct, several typical models, such as 100mb L2 and
AL2
>>> (These are Both full featured VLAN switches with different OSs which

are
>>>
>>
>>
>>> similar to their equivellent gig version) only support mirroring in
TX 

>>> or
>>>
>> RX
>>
>>> per port, not simultaneous.  For example To Do Calea monitoring it 
would
>>>
>> be
>>
>>> necessary to mirror two ports. For example, TX on the customer port,

and
>>>
>> RX
>>
>>> on the backbone port, and sort through it.
>>>
>>> But I did not check the highest end SMC yet. I'll plug one in, and 
check
>>>
>> for
>>
>>> you, shortly..
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Scott Vander Dussen" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommen

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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

[Andy Trimmell]

There's a difference between unlimited use and unlimited downloading.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:13 PM
To: motor...@afmug.com
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough
customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top 3%
heaviest users and give them the boot.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> While watching TV today, I noticed several adds for both Verizon and
AT&T
> now offering UNLIMITED voice service for $69 per line. We also have a
> regional cell provider (Syringa Wireless) that is doing $75 UNLIMITED
> everything (voice, texts, internet) per line.
>
> It would seem all the cell carriers are moving to an unlimited
system...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> -
> Official List of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - afmug.com
>
>




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Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

[Nick Olsen]

Not that I'm aware of. I'm sure some of the higher end switches do it 
(cisco..ect..)
RouterOS always does it for me.

Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x106




From: "Tom DeReggi" 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

Can any of these GB switches (or any brand) give realtime statistics on 
mbps 
passing through a router port?

I recognize SNMP can query a port's packet count, and the math done via a 
third party utility. But I'm refering to logging in via telnet or web, and 

having an easy weay to watch the throughput passing?

The reason I'm asking is that this is relevent for Bandwdith testing of 
Backbones, where one can always run an end to end bandwdith test, but taht 

is meaning less if the pre-existing capacity used is not identified. This 
is 
one reason we use Linux routers at each hop, is we can watch all traffic 
per 
hop. Wondering if any switches can relicate that for us?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - 
From: "John Thomas" 
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

> Thanks, that is good to know. It looks like the 1810G-24 can be upstream
> powered using POE. That could be a good thing for a WISP.
>
> John
>
>
> Nick Olsen wrote:
>> The 1810G-24 can. The 1800-24 & 8 can't.
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Brevard Wireless
>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: "John Thomas" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:20 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>
>> Try to find out what mac address is on which port-you can't do that 
with
>> the HP 1800's, you need something higher up the food chain.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
>>
>>> Nick-
>>> Thanks for the info - I'm looking at specifications between the HP
>>>
>> ProCurve 1810G Switch Series http://bit.ly/5g2F0B and HP ProCurve 2810
>> Switch Series http://bit.ly/5Nqvwc
>>
>>> It seems much of the capabilities are the same, with the 2810 offering 
a
>>>
>> bit more horsepower at about 2x the cost - plus the 2810 series offers a 

>> 48
>> port version.  Any experience with the 2810 series?  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>> `S
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
>>>
>> Behalf Of Nick Olsen
>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:55 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>> I've always been a fan of the HP switches, The 1800-24G is nice, But 
the
>>>
>> new one I'm liking is the 1810G-24
>>
>>> 24 Port Gig, Port mirroring...ect..
>>>
>>> Nick Olsen
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:27 AM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>> Yes, you are correct, several typical models, such as 100mb L2 and AL2
>>> (These are Both full featured VLAN switches with different OSs which 
are
>>>
>>
>>
>>> similar to their equivellent gig version) only support mirroring in TX 

>>> or
>>>
>> RX
>>
>>> per port, not simultaneous.  For example To Do Calea monitoring it 
would
>>>
>> be
>>
>>> necessary to mirror two ports. For example, TX on the customer port, 
and
>>>
>> RX
>>
>>> on the backbone port, and sort through it.
>>>
>>> But I did not check the highest end SMC yet. I'll plug one in, and 
check
>>>
>> for
>>
>>> you, shortly..
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Scott Vander Dussen" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Thx Tom- really only need rx/tx port mirroring - can your smc switch
 do that? I have some smcs that can only do rx or tx but not at the
 same time. Thx for info.

 Thanks,
 'S

 ---
 Sent mobile (and probably one handed while driving!)

 On Jan 12, 2010, at 12:28 AM, "Tom DeReggi"
  wrote:



> Depends on your Requrements for the switch, that is not enough info.
>
> SMC has a fully featured switch that we love, the 24 cat5 Gig port
> (w/ 4
> fiber module ports) model is about $750.
> It does everything.(complete VLAN, Multiple spanning tree, good
> monitoring
> stats, SNMP, Command prompt also, can Label Ports with names, etc)
>
> SMC has a 24 port Gig model for about $500 that does a lot, but you
> cant
> label ports with names.
>
> Then if all you want is WebSmart switch, now you are in the $300
>

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

[Josh Luthman]

You can use an x86 box with RouterOS, but if you're already doing that with
Linux it just depends how much time you want to devote to keeping your Linux
OS up and running.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

> Can any of these GB switches (or any brand) give realtime statistics on
> mbps
> passing through a router port?
>
> I recognize SNMP can query a port's packet count, and the math done via a
> third party utility. But I'm refering to logging in via telnet or web, and
> having an easy weay to watch the throughput passing?
>
> The reason I'm asking is that this is relevent for Bandwdith testing of
> Backbones, where one can always run an end to end bandwdith test, but taht
> is meaning less if the pre-existing capacity used is not identified. This
> is
> one reason we use Linux routers at each hop, is we can watch all traffic
> per
> hop. Wondering if any switches can relicate that for us?
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Thomas" 
> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>
>
> > Thanks, that is good to know. It looks like the 1810G-24 can be upstream
> > powered using POE. That could be a good thing for a WISP.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > Nick Olsen wrote:
> >> The 1810G-24 can. The 1800-24 & 8 can't.
> >>
> >> Nick Olsen
> >> Brevard Wireless
> >> (321) 205-1100 x106
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> From: "John Thomas" 
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:20 AM
> >> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
> >>
> >> Try to find out what mac address is on which port-you can't do that with
> >> the HP 1800's, you need something higher up the food chain.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nick-
> >>> Thanks for the info - I'm looking at specifications between the HP
> >>>
> >> ProCurve 1810G Switch Series http://bit.ly/5g2F0B and HP ProCurve 2810
> >> Switch Series http://bit.ly/5Nqvwc
> >>
> >>> It seems much of the capabilities are the same, with the 2810 offering
> a
> >>>
> >> bit more horsepower at about 2x the cost - plus the 2810 series offers a
> >> 48
> >> port version.  Any experience with the 2810 series?  Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>> `S
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> >>>
> >> Behalf Of Nick Olsen
> >>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:55 AM
> >>> To: WISPA General List
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
> >>>
> >>> I've always been a fan of the HP switches, The 1800-24G is nice, But
> the
> >>>
> >> new one I'm liking is the 1810G-24
> >>
> >>> 24 Port Gig, Port mirroring...ect..
> >>>
> >>> Nick Olsen
> >>> Brevard Wireless
> >>> (321) 205-1100 x106
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:27 AM
> >>> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
> >>>
> >>> Yes, you are correct, several typical models, such as 100mb L2 and AL2
> >>> (These are Both full featured VLAN switches with different OSs which
> are
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>> similar to their equivellent gig version) only support mirroring in TX
> >>> or
> >>>
> >> RX
> >>
> >>> per port, not simultaneous.  For example To Do Calea monitoring it
> would
> >>>
> >> be
> >>
> >>> necessary to mirror two ports. For example, TX on the customer port,
> and
> >>>
> >> RX
> >>
> >>> on the backbone port, and sort through it.
> >>>
> >>> But I did not check the highest end SMC yet. I'll plug one in, and
> check
> >>>
> >> for
> >>
> >>> you, shortly..
> >>>
> >>> Tom DeReggi
> >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Scott Vander Dussen" 
> >>> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:08 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Thx Tom- really only need rx/tx port mirroring - can your smc switch
>  do that? I have some smcs that can only do rx or tx but not at the
>  same time. Thx for info.
> 
>  Thanks,
>  'S
> 
>  ---
>  Sent mobile (and probably one handed while driving!)
> 
>  On Jan 12, 2010, at 12:28 AM, "Tom DeReggi"
>   wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Depends on your Requrements for the switch, that is not enough info.
> >
> > SMC has a fully featured switch that we love, the 24 cat5 Gig port
> > (w/ 4
> > fiber module ports) model is about $750.
> > It does 

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

[Tom DeReggi]

Can any of these GB switches (or any brand) give realtime statistics on mbps 
passing through a router port?

I recognize SNMP can query a port's packet count, and the math done via a 
third party utility. But I'm refering to logging in via telnet or web, and 
having an easy weay to watch the throughput passing?

The reason I'm asking is that this is relevent for Bandwdith testing of 
Backbones, where one can always run an end to end bandwdith test, but taht 
is meaning less if the pre-existing capacity used is not identified. This is 
one reason we use Linux routers at each hop, is we can watch all traffic per 
hop. Wondering if any switches can relicate that for us?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "John Thomas" 
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations


> Thanks, that is good to know. It looks like the 1810G-24 can be upstream
> powered using POE. That could be a good thing for a WISP.
>
> John
>
>
> Nick Olsen wrote:
>> The 1810G-24 can. The 1800-24 & 8 can't.
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Brevard Wireless
>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: "John Thomas" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:20 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>
>> Try to find out what mac address is on which port-you can't do that with
>> the HP 1800's, you need something higher up the food chain.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
>>
>>> Nick-
>>> Thanks for the info - I'm looking at specifications between the HP
>>>
>> ProCurve 1810G Switch Series http://bit.ly/5g2F0B and HP ProCurve 2810
>> Switch Series http://bit.ly/5Nqvwc
>>
>>> It seems much of the capabilities are the same, with the 2810 offering a
>>>
>> bit more horsepower at about 2x the cost - plus the 2810 series offers a 
>> 48
>> port version.  Any experience with the 2810 series?  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>> `S
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>
>> Behalf Of Nick Olsen
>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:55 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>> I've always been a fan of the HP switches, The 1800-24G is nice, But the
>>>
>> new one I'm liking is the 1810G-24
>>
>>> 24 Port Gig, Port mirroring...ect..
>>>
>>> Nick Olsen
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:27 AM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>> Yes, you are correct, several typical models, such as 100mb L2 and AL2
>>> (These are Both full featured VLAN switches with different OSs which are
>>>
>>
>>
>>> similar to their equivellent gig version) only support mirroring in TX 
>>> or
>>>
>> RX
>>
>>> per port, not simultaneous.  For example To Do Calea monitoring it would
>>>
>> be
>>
>>> necessary to mirror two ports. For example, TX on the customer port, and
>>>
>> RX
>>
>>> on the backbone port, and sort through it.
>>>
>>> But I did not check the highest end SMC yet. I'll plug one in, and check
>>>
>> for
>>
>>> you, shortly..
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Scott Vander Dussen" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Thx Tom- really only need rx/tx port mirroring - can your smc switch
 do that? I have some smcs that can only do rx or tx but not at the
 same time. Thx for info.

 Thanks,
 'S

 ---
 Sent mobile (and probably one handed while driving!)

 On Jan 12, 2010, at 12:28 AM, "Tom DeReggi"
  wrote:



> Depends on your Requrements for the switch, that is not enough info.
>
> SMC has a fully featured switch that we love, the 24 cat5 Gig port
> (w/ 4
> fiber module ports) model is about $750.
> It does everything.(complete VLAN, Multiple spanning tree, good
> monitoring
> stats, SNMP, Command prompt also, can Label Ports with names, etc)
>
> SMC has a 24 port Gig model for about $500 that does a lot, but you
> cant
> label ports with names.
>
> Then if all you want is WebSmart switch, now you are in the $300
> range.  And
> there are lots of manufacturer options for webSmart type.
>
> NetGear has a good one for about $550, might even have OSPF, but
> lacks a few
> VLAN features, but allows ports to have names..
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message 

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

[Stuart Pierce]

>
>WE collectively NEED handouts from the taxpayers?   Like hell we >do.   All we 
>need is some guts and a willingness to actually >risk a bit for what we 
>>actually believe in.

I think you meant "DO WE collectively NEED handouts from the taxpayers? like 
hell we do not need them." 





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