[WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900
You could always use a LocoM900 with the omni, but don't expect to go very far through trees but better than 2.4. -- Original Message -- From: Eduardo edua...@webjogger.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:26:14 -0400 I have some customers inside a 1 mile radius of a POP. We want to use a rocket M900 with an omni antenna and put a dummy load on the other RPSMA lead, since we couldn't find any MIMO 900MHz omni available. Does anyone have any experience doing this? Thanks, Eduardo Webjogger Internet Services www.webjogger.net Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria Proffer http://www.stlwimax.com/ STLWiMAX, LLC 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 tel:%28276%29%20238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 tel:%28276%29%20237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
http://dataprobe.com/remote-reboot.html I've used some of their older 'iboots' havent' used their phone devices. On 3/16/2012 9:40, Victoria Proffer wrote: Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 tel:%28276%29%20238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 tel:%28276%29%20237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net mailto:tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it's an auto reset device. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 tel:%28276%29%20238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 tel:%28276%29%20237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Coordinates and tower heights would be a good start. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 3/16/12 10:03 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com mailto:rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 tel:970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 tel:970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6 mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
Can you set it on an auto-ping? Victoria Proffer http://www.stlwimax.com/ STLWiMAX, LLC 314-974-5600 From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it's an auto reset device. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 tel:%28276%29%20238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 tel:%28276%29%20237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
I don't think you understand. A GFCI outlet is a mechanical device. You can't reboot it. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Can you set it on an auto-ping? ** ** Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 ** ** *From:* Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages ** ** The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset device. ** ** Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Victoria Proffer *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages ** ** Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? ** ** i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer ** ** Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages ** ** We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
One of these http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=gfci+outletoe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-aum=1ie=UTF-8tbm=shopcid=16532274097447588363sa=Xei=Ik5jT6H-Nubk0QHnkZWZCAved=0CIoBEPICMAI Where did you one that auto resets, Ryan? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I don't think you understand. A GFCI outlet is a mechanical device. You can't reboot it. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Can you set it on an auto-ping? Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC 314-974-5600 From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset device. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack. You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
I'm not doing it... I just put a number out there so he could realize there is way more to it than posting a distance. :) Travis On 3/16/2012 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6 mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
Oh, yeah ... I see, so than you have to reset the circuit, which requires a flip. Victoria Proffer http://www.stlwimax.com/ STLWiMAX, LLC 314-974-5600 From: Chuck Hogg [mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:24 AM To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Cc: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages I don't think you understand. A GFCI outlet is a mechanical device. You can't reboot it. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Can you set it on an auto-ping? Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it's an auto reset device. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 tel:%28276%29%20238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 tel:%28276%29%20237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
I thought $15k was including next day installation with your crew! I can supply the extra hard hat if you need it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: I'm not doing it... I just put a number out there so he could realize there is way more to it than posting a distance. :) Travis On 3/16/2012 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6 mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
Yeah. Drop the GFCI. If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to meet you at the site every time it goes down because the GFCI technology is so worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and he'll beg you to take them out! And if you think it's bad now. Just wait till you have to put in arc fault breakers everywhere. The whole house has to have them nowadays. Can't even run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of the rooms with an arc fault. Half my skill saws won't work etc. Good ideas, both. Rotten overly sensitive implementation. The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later. Every homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in normal breakers :-). The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology! marlon - Original Message - From: Troy Settle To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
I like the digital loggers products a LOT better than dataprobe. Never had a DL unit start turning it's self off when it's not supposed to. I have had that with an iboot. marlon - Original Message - From: Jay DeBoer To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages http://dataprobe.com/remote-reboot.html I've used some of their older 'iboots' havent' used their phone devices. On 3/16/2012 9:40, Victoria Proffer wrote: Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900
Blair, how is this setup working? Is this a real Option for future deployments? I have a grain Leg that would be perfect 25 homes within a 2 mile radius, however, light to moderate woods at 1 Mile almost 100% around the Gran leg. Backhaul not a problem from top but without 900 I cant get 1 mile and only 3 house. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900 opps! V-pol on chain 1 On 3/13/2012 9:02 PM, Blair Davis wrote: Reverse them. Put the H-pol omni on chain 0 and the V-pol on chain. Works much better. Not sure why, but my field testing proved it. On 3/13/2012 5:42 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote: We are looking into a situation like this, using a 900 Vertical Omni with on chain 0 and a Horizontal Omni on chain 1 with about 10 foot pf spacing between the two. I too would like to know if anyone else has done this.. Ryan On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.commailto:j284...@yahoo.com wrote: What I did was connect the omni to one port,connected a h-pol 9db panel and pointed it toward the majority of customers. --- On Tue, 3/13/12, Eduardo edua...@webjogger.netmailto:edua...@webjogger.net wrote: From: Eduardo edua...@webjogger.netmailto:edua...@webjogger.net Subject: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 5:26 PM I have some customers inside a 1 mile radius of a POP. We want to use a rocket M900 with an omni antenna and put a dummy load on the other RPSMA lead, since we couldn't find any MIMO 900MHz omni available. Does anyone have any experience doing this? Thanks, Eduardo Webjogger Internet Services www.webjogger.nethttp://www.webjogger.net -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orghttp://mc/compose?to=Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact you removed the GFCI. I would not want to bet my business on it. I would have an outlet hardwired into a nema box. That should satisfy code, but I would check. Justin From: Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Yeah. Drop the GFCI. If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to meet you at the site every time it goes down because the GFCI technology is so worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and he'll beg you to take them out! And if you think it's bad now. Just wait till you have to put in arc fault breakers everywhere. The whole house has to have them nowadays. Can't even run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of the rooms with an arc fault. Half my skill saws won't work etc. Good ideas, both. Rotten overly sensitive implementation. The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later. Every homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in normal breakers :-). The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology! marlon - Original Message - From: Troy Settle mailto:tset...@thewiredroad.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
That's what breakers are for - shorts. GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in water. I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower building. On 3/16/12 11:11 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact you removed the GFCI. I would not want to bet my business on it. I would have an outlet hardwired into a nema box. That should satisfy code, but I would check. Justin From: Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) o...@odessaoffice.com mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Yeah. Drop the GFCI. If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to meet you at the site every time it goes down because the GFCI technology is so worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and he'll beg you to take them out! And if you think it's bad now. Just wait till you have to put in arc fault breakers everywhere. The whole house has to have them nowadays. Can't even run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of the rooms with an arc fault. Half my skill saws won't work etc. Good ideas, both. Rotten overly sensitive implementation. The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later. Every homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in normal breakers :-). The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology! marlon - Original Message - *From:* Troy Settle mailto:tset...@thewiredroad.net *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM *Subject:* [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net mailto:tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
Just replace it. It's probably failing. They're a pain when they start failing but when you get a good one they're fine. Greg On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
My point was if Code actually requires it, which in this case it may not, don't replace it because it's an inconvenience. You are potentially liable if something were to happen if you are the one who went against code. Instead find a workaround. If code doesn't require it, get an inspector to sign off. Justin -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:27:40 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages That's what breakers are for - shorts. GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in water. I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower building. On 3/16/12 11:11 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact you removed the GFCI. I would not want to bet my business on it. I would have an outlet hardwired into a nema box. That should satisfy code, but I would check. Justin From: Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) o...@odessaoffice.com mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Yeah. Drop the GFCI. If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to meet you at the site every time it goes down because the GFCI technology is so worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and he'll beg you to take them out! And if you think it's bad now. Just wait till you have to put in arc fault breakers everywhere. The whole house has to have them nowadays. Can't even run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of the rooms with an arc fault. Half my skill saws won't work etc. Good ideas, both. Rotten overly sensitive implementation. The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later. Every homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in normal breakers :-). The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology! marlon - Original Message - *From:* Troy Settle mailto:tset...@thewiredroad.net *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM *Subject:* [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net mailto:tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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On 03/16/2012 11:27 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: That's what breakers are for - shorts. GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in water. I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower building. I agree, there's fuse panel, why the heck is a GFCI needed too at a tower site? Are you sure this is code? My guess is some inspector has completely misread the code and is applying house code to a tower site! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
that 6 mile has a 180 foot tower on one end and a 40 foot on the other.. lol.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6 mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
I'll do it for $50. No uptime requirements were given. On 3/16/12 11:35 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: that 6 mile has a 180 foot tower on one end and a 40 foot on the other.. lol.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6 mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net mailto:t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 tel:970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 tel:970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
To add to the anecdotal evidence against cheap GFCI outlets, I had to remove one in a building when spontaneous trips started occurring randomly (e.g. once every couple weeks) after an adjacent building received a direct lightening strike. For that matter, the GFCI contributed nothing to lightening protection, still lost a bunch of equipment. -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Without coordinates you aren't going to get anything from a lot of people, myself included. I can't promise anything is going to work if I don't know where the towers are, what the terrain is like, etc. There are hops I have between 180 foot towers that require an intermediate hop to make it work. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 3/16/12 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com mailto:rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com mailto:rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 tel:970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 tel:970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 tel:970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 tel:970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits from moisture mainly, AFAIK they do not provide any type of protection for devices other than cutting the circuit if it senses a ground fault. DJ Anderson Shelby Broadband On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote: To add to the anecdotal evidence against cheap GFCI outlets, I had to remove one in a building when spontaneous trips started occurring randomly (e.g. once every couple weeks) after an adjacent building received a direct lightening strike. For that matter, the GFCI contributed nothing to lightening protection, still lost a bunch of equipment. -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list.. That's why I Asked folks to contact me.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Email Daniel White w Baltic. On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list.. That's why I Asked folks to contact me.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Daniel White is with SAF. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: Email Daniel White w Baltic. On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list.. That's why I Asked folks to contact me.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
This is true. The GFCI outlet happened to already be in the building when I installed equipment. It turns out the GFCI outlet itself could have benefited from lightening isolation. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, DJ Anderson d...@shelbybb.com wrote: I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits from moisture mainly, AFAIK they do not provide any type of protection for devices other than cutting the circuit if it senses a ground fault. -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
E-Mail Jon Hoeweler with Streakwave. jon [at] streakwave.com Tell him Matt sent you. On 3/16/12 11:59 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Daniel White is with SAF. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mannzma...@gmail.com wrote: Email Daniel White w Baltic. On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, Ryan Gheringrgher...@gmail.com wrote: They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list.. That's why I Asked folks to contact me.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Gheringrgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Gheringrgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Gheringrgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
At 3/16/2012 11:45 AM, JoshL wrote: No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates. I suspect he'll volunteer coordinates to a bona fide offeror. Just not to the list. It looks like some of the shorter hops could be handled with 24 GHz unlicensed, if only marginally fast enough. Maybe faster with 80 GHz licensed, albeit with a 0.4 degree beam width to maintain. 60 GHz unlicened wouldn't hack it. The longer hop might work at 18 GHz licensed. The radios (say, Dragonwave, SAF or Bridgewave) aren't terribly expensive (well, a lot more than Ubiquitis), but will need precise installation. I assume he has identified clear paths. On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering mailto:rgher...@gmail.comrgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.comj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: tel:937-552-2340937-552-2340 Direct: tel:937-552-2343937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering mailto:rgher...@gmail.comrgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.comj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: tel:937-552-2340937-552-2340 Direct: tel:937-552-2343937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering mailto:rgher...@gmail.comrgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
I appreciate the shout out either way! Should anyone else be interested, below is my SAF contact info. Daniel White Sales Manager Western US SAF Tehnika JSC Cell: +1 303-746-3590 SAF office: +371 67046840 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions. Daniel White is with SAF. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: Email Daniel White w Baltic. On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list.. That's why I Asked folks to contact me.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
There you go, send your coordinates and get some CFIP Luminas. Run fiber for data and cat5 for power. I know first hand it works quite well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: I appreciate the shout out either way! Should anyone else be interested, below is my SAF contact info. Daniel White – Sales Manager Western US SAF Tehnika JSC Cell: +1 303-746-3590 SAF office: +371 67046840 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions. Daniel White is with SAF. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: Email Daniel White w Baltic. On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list.. That's why I Asked folks to contact me.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Ohh and 5 9's is required.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
Thanks Matt! Yeah, the outlet itself is on a post next to the tower foundation and a dropcord feeds into a NEMA box mounted on the tower (no shack). We have a few sites set up like this, and I think I'm going to hardwire everything before we get much further into lightning season. Since posting, I spoke with an electrician who has done some other work for us, and he also suggested yanking the GFCI. I don't know why this was installed this way. I'm thinking that the electrician who did the original work was thinking more residential than industrial. I'll leave the GFCI outlet in place as a convenience outlet to provide the extra protection when we're out there working. -Troy -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: Troy Settle Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Licensed and a ptp600? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 12:36 PM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Ohh and 5 9's is required.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Five 9's with 23GHz at 256QAM is easy for most of these links. the 6 mile link is either 18GHz or 23GHz depending on preferences Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions. Licensed and a ptp600? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 12:36 PM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Ohh and 5 9's is required.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at the top of the tower. Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with room to spare. Budget.. There is no budget here, lets just say the client has pretty deep pockets.. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Like what? :) Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Need to share a lot more information for that quote. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost radio business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality of equipment reasons? Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day, Forbes On 3/16/2012 7:11 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4872 - Release Date: 03/15/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Along those same lines, what is keeping them from making 24ghz unlicensed p2p radios? -Kyle Duren On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost radio business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality of equipment reasons? Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day, Forbes ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
I assume its probably because wifi chips wont meet the spectrum masks required. Also 24ghz requires a transmit channel and a receive channel be many hundred mhz apart. On 03/16/2012 10:35 AM, Kyle Duren wrote: Along those same lines, what is keeping them from making 24ghz unlicensed p2p radios? -Kyle Duren On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost radio business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality of equipment reasons? Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day, Forbes ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
Snaplink makes an upconverted Atheros based radio in the 24GHz band that is TDD. before buying one I'd find another WISP user that has deployed one and ask them how well it performs :-) From a price perspective I think they are pretty close to a SAF Freemile link anyways. http://www.snaplinkradio.com http://www.snaplinkradio.com/ Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions. I assume its probably because wifi chips wont meet the spectrum masks required. Also 24ghz requires a transmit channel and a receive channel be many hundred mhz apart. On 03/16/2012 10:35 AM, Kyle Duren wrote: Along those same lines, what is keeping them from making 24ghz unlicensed p2p radios? -Kyle Duren On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost radio business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality of equipment reasons? Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day, Forbes ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
We put in a enclosure and that let us say it was 'indoors' and drop the gfci requirement. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Troy Settle tset...@thewiredroad.net wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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It is widely suspected that UBNT is announcing a gigabit licensed link next week. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 12:07:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions. I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost radio business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality of equipment reasons? Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day, Forbes On 3/16/2012 7:11 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4872 - Release Date: 03/15/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions.
So they crammed five Rockets into a single case? LOL Travis On 3/16/2012 1:39 PM, wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: It is widely suspected that UBNT is announcing a gigabit licensed link next week. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercyforbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 12:07:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100Mbps+ BH Solutions. I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost radio business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be quality of equipment reasons? Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day, Forbes On 3/16/2012 7:11 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop. Travis On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their offerings for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to 1Gbps. I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops. Hop 1: 2 miles Hop 2: 2.8 miles Hop 3: 5.6 miles Hop 4: 2.6 miles Hop 5: 2.6 miles Freq can be anything OTHER than 2.4 or 5.8 Please call my Cell listed below. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
Next stupid outage at a different site. Specs: Generac 8KW generator Automatic Transfer Switch APC 450 rack mount UPS Mikrotik RB1200 Mikrotik RB435 (3x 802.11n sectors) Dragonwave Compact Horizon #1 Dragonwave Compact Horizon #2 (I don't know how many horses, chickens, goats, pigs, and other critters are onsite, but I don't think they're an issue). Total load on the UPS is at 44%, estimated run is 25 minutes (long enough for the generator and switch to do their thing). Radios grounded to the tower, tower grounded and bonded to the shack. Shack has two rods (panel - Rod - Rod - Generator). Everything inside is bonded as well, including the drain wires on all the Cat-5. Yesterday, the Dragonwaves rebooted several times during the storm, but neither RB lost power even once. Any guesses? I'm sleeping on it over the weekend, but probably need to get it figured out before too many more storms come over the mountains. Thanks, -Troy From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Troy Settle Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:05 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating code? Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
