Re: [WISPA] 750P and AF5x

[Mathew Howard]

I haven't run into any problems. We have a few running that way... I think 
they've probably been going for a year or so without any issues.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh 
Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 750P and AF5x

Any long term issues to be aware of?  I know 24v is on the lower end of voltage 
range but it seems to work just fine with my long test cables in the lab (100 
meg is fine, don't need gig).

Josh Luthman
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Re: [WISPA] 2 foot 5 GHz dishes

[Mathew Howard]

The AC dishes are nice, but expensive... and they seem like overkill most of 
the time.

I do see a couple of places showing the RD-5G30-LW in stock though.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2 foot 5 GHz dishes

I really like the UBNT Rocket Dish AC. Slightly larger than 2' but works very 
well

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
What are my options besides the ever elusive Ubnt and missing Arc?

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Re: [WISPA] 2 foot 5 GHz dishes

[Mathew Howard]

UBNT airFiber dishes, if dual slant isn't a problem.

Otherwise, there are the Mikrotik dishes... although they seem kinda flimsy to 
me.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh 
Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 3:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 2 foot 5 GHz dishes

What are my options besides the ever elusive Ubnt and missing Arc?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

[Mathew Howard]

The bigger dish is the most exciting thing about it, as far as I'm concerned... 
more so to help keep the modulation up on short links than to extend range. I 
still can't see using one of these on more than about a 4 mile link.

The price is a bit of a shock though... although it's still going to be pretty 
hard to beat for short links, even at $6k.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh 
Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

Uh ya exactly.  Everyone is skipping over the BIGGER DISH!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Ben Moore 
ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:
and 50% more range...

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds 
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
500Mbps technically :)


On December 17, 2014 9:52:55 AM AKST, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Dang! 2x price for 250 mbps more, ouch!



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

Hi Gino -

Initial shipments are in transit to distributors so units will be received in 
early to mid January.

MSRP is $6k/link.

Thanks,
Ben

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Just got a email from UBNT

AF24HD announced, similar to AF24, bigger Rx dish (40db) 256 qam 1 Gbps Fdx

http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber24/

No pricing or availability info, Ben?



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President
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www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



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Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

[Mathew Howard]

Under 1 mile, yeah there are options in the same price range, but for 1-2 
miles, not so much.

for longer links, you're not likely to be holding full modulation anyway, so 
licensed is going to make more sense to me to just go licensed there.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Gino 
Villarini [g...@aeronetpr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

There will be plenty of low cost options for 1 gbps links under 1 mile, expect 
wigig chips on 60 ghz products soon



Gino A. Villarini
President
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www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

The bigger dish is the most exciting thing about it, as far as I'm concerned... 
more so to help keep the modulation up on short links than to extend range. I 
still can't see using one of these on more than about a 4 mile link.

The price is a bit of a shock though... although it's still going to be pretty 
hard to beat for short links, even at $6k.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

Uh ya exactly.  Everyone is skipping over the BIGGER DISH!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Ben Moore 
ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:
and 50% more range...

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds 
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
500Mbps technically :)


On December 17, 2014 9:52:55 AM AKST, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Dang! 2x price for 250 mbps more, ouch!



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

Hi Gino -

Initial shipments are in transit to distributors so units will be received in 
early to mid January.

MSRP is $6k/link.

Thanks,
Ben

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Just got a email from UBNT

AF24HD announced, similar to AF24, bigger Rx dish (40db) 256 qam 1 Gbps Fdx

http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber24/

No pricing or availability info, Ben?



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President
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www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



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Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

[Mathew Howard]

Because it's fun? :P

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Matt 
Hoppes [mhop...@indigowireless.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

Wait... why are you driving if you can't see past the hood of your car?

;-)

On 12/17/14, 2:34 PM, Adair Winter wrote:
 SWAG. In skywarn training we were always told that if you cant see past
 the hood of your car, that's 1 per hour or more.

 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 How are you guys measuring/finding the inch per hour rainfall?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Adair Winter
 ada...@amarillowireless.net mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net
 wrote:

 The rains that have knocked ours our were 1 per hour.
 (certainly no less then .5/hr)

 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Jim Patient
 jpati...@linktechs.net mailto:jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:

 It takes a pretty hard rain before our 3.2 mile link fails
 over to the backup Mikrotik link.  It usually takes .3/hr
 to drop it out.  Light rain doesn't affect it as much as I
 expected.  Overall, I'm well pleased with it for the price.
 

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 I agree with Gino.  $6K is a no brainer for me to jump to a
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 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

 __ __

 in the rain? my 2.7 miles link drops in anything but a
 drizzle. 

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 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Matt Hoppes
 mhop...@indigowireless.com
 mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:

 Working great at 3 miles here in PA.

 On 12/17/14, 1:59 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
  Working great at six miles here in Alaska.
 
  On December 17, 2014 9:58:58 AM AKST, Tim Reichhart
  timreichh...@hometowncable.net
 mailto:timreichh...@hometowncable.net wrote:
 
  Here is my issue the af24 wouldnt work for me since I
 live in the
  Midwest and we get rain etc... it would only work
 about an mile or
  so not 8 mile shots when can you guys get an working
 24Ghz airfiber
  to work in these types of weather climates?
 
  Tim
 
 
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  Date: 12/17/14 01:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced
 
  and 50% more range...
 
  On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds
  j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
 mailto:j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:
 
  500Mbps technically :)
 
 
  On December 17, 2014 9:52:55 AM AKST, Gino
 Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 
  Dang! 2x price for 250 mbps more, ouch!
 
 
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  President
  Aeronet Wireless 

Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

[Mathew Howard]

You would think they could've put an SFP port in there for that price...


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike 
Hammett [wispawirel...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

Still no SFPs.

Would have liked to see higher QAM.

Would have liked to see  1 GB interface.



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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:45:01 PM
Subject: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

Just got a email from UBNT

AF24HD announced, similar to AF24, bigger Rx dish (40db) 256 qam 1 Gbps Fdx

http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber24/

No pricing or availability info, Ben?



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Re: [WISPA] Cambium vendor

[Mathew Howard]

If you're using 5ghz, you should look at the ePMP Force 110, it's by far the 
best solution I've seen.



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
marlon schafer (509-982-2181) [marlonli...@odessaoffice.com]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:40 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cambium vendor

Hi All,

I'm trying out some Cambium gear.  So far it's faster than my MT gear at the
same location.  But I'm soo range limited.  With the integrated solution
I'm only able to get about 2 miles, even that's a bit of a stretch when the
noise levels are high.

I really need to find an external antenna solution.  Preferably a grid so I
don't need such a heavy duty mount.

Anyone know of what I can use with the ePMP line?  If you are a vendor
please call me so we can talk about what will fit my needs.  509.988.0260

Thanks!
marlon

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Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project

[Mathew Howard]

That's basically how I've been monitoring our Ubiquiti stuff for years. It's a 
pretty simple way to go, you just need some mechanism to get the scripts onto 
the radios.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Kristian Hoffmann [kh...@fire2wire.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project

Right, so you can scrape the data from /proc, iwinfo, or wherever else, you can 
push that back to the server using some kind of HTTP call.  It just depends on 
what's handy and what they've included in their busybox build.  Like...

#!/bin/sh

cat /proc/net/wireless | grep ath | sed 's/[ ]\+/,/g' | while read ATHSTAT; do
  wget -O /dev/null 
http://gcserver/stat?dev=fooathstats=$ATHSTAT;http://gcserver/stat?dev=fooathstats=$ATHSTAT
done


-Kristian

On 12/03/2014 01:21 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
The idea is that we're going to pull stuff from the radios that aren't even 
exposed via the GUIs...

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com

On 12/03/2014 12:14 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
For at least MikroTik and Ubnt devices, you could push the stats from the 
device to the server with a REST call using wget and /tool fetch, respectively. 
 For everything else, you're probably going to have to just poll with SNMP, 
which isn't (shouldn't be) terrible and would be the most widely supported 
approach.

-Kristian

On 12/03/2014 01:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Mmmm there's still ssh keys in devices that are used for CC to AC2 severs. 
They did build a custom protocol that runs inside that tunnel though.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com

On 12/03/2014 12:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they 
had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM
To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project

I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning 
mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that 
method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision 
the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip 
that your previous aircontrol server.

A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same 
ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will 
always try to connect to the old ip/server, which causes quite a bit of arp 
traffic.

 one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh 
(parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com

On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the 
provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol?  It's nice to 
have subscriber units phone home.


On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses
their own software might offer something.

Mike Hammett wrote:


Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care
what you want. This is what you get.



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*From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org, 
Ubiquiti Users
Group ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org, 
a...@afmug.commailto:a...@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM
*Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project

For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new
project yesterday.

https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol

Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2.

We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server,
and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen.

The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a
possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to
observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that
comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features
and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this
project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral.

If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation

Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mathew Howard]

I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of dual 
polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in performance 
between any of them.

Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?

Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it seems 
somewhat pointless to me...

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Sam 
[w...@csilogan.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

Thanks
Sam



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
 I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
 the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
 Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Sam
 Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
 antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
 of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
 omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
 well.

 Thanks
 Sam
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mathew Howard]

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by the 
shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the connectors, 
and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Sam 
[w...@csilogan.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area
with a ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with
the shielding is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without
it. I'm all about using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
 I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of 
 dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in 
 performance between any of them.

 Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?

 Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it 
 seems somewhat pointless to me...
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
 Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
 Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
 performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

 Thanks
 Sam



 On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
 I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
 the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
 Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Sam
 Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
 antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
 of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
 omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
 well.

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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mathew Howard]

Not only should you have spares, you should also make sure you have the right 
parts before you go to the job...

even if you do have the right parts, it's still a nuisance to deal with getting 
sent the wrong stuff... it can happen with anything though - for instance, I 
once got sent a 5ghz UBNT omni instead of 2.4ghz... I'm pretty sure I would've 
been better off with the wrong pigtails ;-)


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Jim 
Patient [jpati...@linktechs.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because the vendor 
didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault.  You should have several 
spares of every flavor in your truck.  If not, it's a safe bet Murphy will show 
up throwing his laws around :-)


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P


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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle 
mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.commailto:mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com 
wrote:
KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N connectors on 
antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket.  YMMV
-Matt

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, maybe the RF 
armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.


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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn 
gregwosb...@gmail.commailto:gregwosb...@gmail.com wrote:
UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where UBNT
see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over
the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of
Sam [w...@csilogan.commailto:w...@csilogan.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with a
ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the shielding
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all about
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
 I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
performance between any of them.

 Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?

 Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it
seems somewhat pointless to me...
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
 behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.commailto:w...@csilogan.com]
 Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
 performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

 Thanks
 Sam



 On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
 I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
 for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements

Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

[Mathew Howard]

so the lite version doesn't have airPrism?

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Matt 
Hardy [m...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

I read it to infer that the non-Lite version will have airPrism :)
http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/technology/


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Matt,

The first post asked: What does the LITE mean in the new Rocket M5 AC Lite?

in which Ben totally skipped over answering it...


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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Matt Hardy 
m...@ubnt.commailto:m...@ubnt.com wrote:
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-General-Discussion/Rocket-M5-AC-Lite/m-p/900726#U900726


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM, wi...@metrocom.camailto:wi...@metrocom.ca 
wrote:
I saw that as well. But again, if this is the Lite product, is there a higher 
level product to come, perhaps with GPS?

Daniel Mullen
ISN Inc.

Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote ..
 Says PTMP comes with a firmware upgrade.


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 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Zach Underwood 
 z...@zachunderwood.memailto:z...@zachunderwood.me
 wrote:

  Have a look at this http://www.ubnt.com/airmax/rocket-ac/
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:44 PM, 
  wi...@metrocom.camailto:wi...@metrocom.ca wrote:
 
  So if this is the 'Rocket M5 AC PTP Lite' you should expect something
  above this as well. Any ideas?
 
  Daniel Mullen
  ISN Inc.
 
 
  Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote ..
  
  https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=ExhibitsRequestTimeout=500calledFromFrame=Napplication_id=527992fcc_id=SWX-RM5ACPTP
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

[Mathew Howard]

nevermind what I just said ;-)

So is anything besides the non-lite Rocket AC getting airprism at this point?


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben 
Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

Lite = less cost, no airprism, etc...

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

So non-lite = $$$



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From: ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

See response in forum...


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Matt,

The first post asked: What does the LITE mean in the new Rocket M5 AC Lite?

in which Ben totally skipped over answering it...


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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Matt Hardy 
m...@ubnt.commailto:m...@ubnt.com wrote:
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-General-Discussion/Rocket-M5-AC-Lite/m-p/900726#U900726


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM, wi...@metrocom.camailto:wi...@metrocom.ca 
wrote:
I saw that as well. But again, if this is the Lite product, is there a higher 
level product to come, perhaps with GPS?

Daniel Mullen
ISN Inc.

Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote ..
 Says PTMP comes with a firmware upgrade.


 Josh Luthman
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 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Zach Underwood 
 z...@zachunderwood.memailto:z...@zachunderwood.me
 wrote:

  Have a look at this http://www.ubnt.com/airmax/rocket-ac/
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:44 PM, 
  wi...@metrocom.camailto:wi...@metrocom.ca wrote:
 
  So if this is the 'Rocket M5 AC PTP Lite' you should expect something
  above this as well. Any ideas?
 
  Daniel Mullen
  ISN Inc.
 
 
  Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote ..
  
  https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=ExhibitsRequestTimeout=500calledFromFrame=Napplication_id=527992fcc_id=SWX-RM5ACPTP
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

[Mathew Howard]

I have measured Ubiquiti radios at right around 3 watts with an amp meter on DC 
(.25a @12v, if I remember correctly), so I'd say that 2.5 watts is possible. I 
also saw the amps go up when booting and passing traffic, I don't remember 
exactly what the numbers where off hand though.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh 
Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

So funny story - my original ToughSwitch died sometime between Friday and 
today.  This came from Ubnt themselves in Vegas last year (it almost made it a 
year).

So I took the new one in the box and put it in.  I did all of the measurements 
on the AC side because I have a cord that enables me to easily do this.  To 
measure the DC side, I'd have to cut open the wiring and I'd probably throw it 
away afterwards.

121.4 to 122.2 vac
default (powered on, logged into it) 0.05 amp
enabled all 5 poe ports (24v) no change
put on old ns2 got .07 amps
put on ns5m got .09 amps

Now I'm not very confident in saying a Ubnt radio is only 2.5 watts (122vac * 
0.02amps), but at idle I can't say that's impossible.  It definitely went up 
another 0.01 amps while booting, but lost it when it was fully booted.


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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.netmailto:n...@ngl.net 
wrote:
4 ports will be POE, 1 will be a switch
NGL
From: Randy Cosbymailto:dco...@infowest.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:45 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

Better also plan on how many ports will have POE turned on -- even if you don't 
have load on them yet to measure against.  Turning the relays on takes more 
power.


On 9/24/2013 1:32 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Thanx, I really need to know.
NGL
From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:06 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

If you can't get the answer let me know, I have an amp meter and a NIB 
ToughSwitch.


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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Clay Stewart 
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.commailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
 wrote:
DO not know off hand, but what I do is use an APC UPS unit with LED power 
wattage info, plug in the item I want to know the true wattage and these guys 
will give it too you. More accurate then a spec sheet ;')


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:18 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.netmailto:n...@ngl.net 
wrote:
Anyone know the wattage a ToughSwitch 5 port uses when powered directly by a 24 
volt battery system. I need to be sure I have enough solar  to keep tha system 
up
Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

[Mathew Howard]

Yep, if you're measuring amps like I was, the actual wattage can vary quite a 
bit depending on what exactly the voltage is.
I would agree that 6 watts is a good number to use.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh 
Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:07 PM
To: Randy Cosby; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

Yup, definitely close, but when the radios are doing 3-5 watts it's kind of 
hard to measure (ie from 3 watts on the meter could be 2600-3400 mw).  That's 
why I'd tack on a couple of watts when doing the math for batteries (or panels).


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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Randy Cosby 
dco...@infowest.commailto:dco...@infowest.com wrote:
Or in other words (maybe?) some devices are more efficient - use less watts - 
at different voltages.

But from what I have seen, generally V x a = W is a going to be pretty close.




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From: Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.commailto:ch...@htswireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:17:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

Watts are the same regardless the voltage. Volts x amps = watts.

Chris


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 Original message 
From: Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Date: 09/24/2013 6:06 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question



Uhm...sure?

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On Sep 24, 2013 6:59 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.netmailto:n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you mean 6 watts at 24 volts?
NGL
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question


4 watts min but use 6 for your budget.

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On Sep 24, 2013 6:50 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.netmailto:n...@ngl.net wrote:
Example:
If I had 4 Bullet M2s which draw 7 Watts each I would be drawing 28 watts total 
for the bullets. How much more wattage should I allow for the TS5?
Thanx
NGL
From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

Connection?  I think it'd have to be passing traffic.  There is only one 
processor for wifi and cpu - it's already ticking upon power and association 
would be negligible.

From my tests on DC (from batteries) association had no relevance.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Clay Stewart 
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.commailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
 wrote:
I would think the radio will have to have a connection to use full amps.


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
So funny story - my original ToughSwitch died sometime between Friday and 
today.  This came from Ubnt themselves in Vegas last year (it almost made it a 
year).

So I took the new one in the box and put it in.  I did all of the measurements 
on the AC side because I have a cord that enables me to easily do this.  To 
measure the DC side, I'd have to cut open the wiring and I'd probably throw it 
away afterwards.

121.4 to 122.2 vac
default (powered on, logged into it) 0.05 amp
enabled all 5 poe ports (24v) no change
put on old ns2 got .07 amps
put on ns5m got .09 amps

Now I'm not very confident in saying a Ubnt radio is only 2.5 watts (122vac * 
0.02amps), but at idle I can't say that's impossible.  It definitely went up 
another 0.01 amps while booting, but lost it when it was fully booted.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.netmailto:n...@ngl.net 
wrote:
4 ports will be POE, 1 will be a switch
NGL
From: Randy Cosbymailto:dco...@infowest.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:45 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

Better also plan on how many ports will have POE turned on -- even if you don't 
have load on them yet to measure 

Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

[Mathew Howard]

SAF does do 17ghz with their Freemile line and I think they also do in the CFIP 
line. I don't know if Trango makes anything though.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh 
Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:24 PM
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

Trango is direct.  You'll need to call them if you want an answer.

SAF more than likely can do it, but I'm only 95% sure.  You'll need to contact 
them if it's not a commonly used band in Europe.  SAF is in Latvia, which would 
presumably make it easier on you if you're in Europe.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
paolo.difrance...@level7.itmailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
Hi all

does trango works on 17ghz ? if so which model?

Any european distributor in the list?

Thank you


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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

[Mathew Howard]

It looks like it would be a nightmare just to climb that thing...


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Doug 
Clark [d...@txox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

Here is the climb path on a 240 foot tower where we are all the way on the top. 
 It would absolutely be a nightmare to rescue someone on this tower.

Is there any authority that protects climbers from idiot tower owners that will 
allow tenants to put crap in the climb path that makes the tower extremely
dangerous to climb?




---Original Message---

From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Date: 2/5/2013 11:39:13 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

+1

I can't imagine why the tower structure would make any difference.  Only the 
stuff mounted to it (extra antennas, big dishes you have to climb around, etc).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Chuck Hogg 
ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
?  I did my certified rescue on a guyed tower and it was pretty easy.  We've 
done practice rescues on a Self Support.  All pretty much the same.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Broadwick 
jeffl...@att.netmailto:jeffl...@att.net wrote:
Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it weren't a
monopole?


Regards,

Jeff Broadwick
Bitlomat Sales Director
847-238-2481tel:847-238-2481 Office
574-220-7826tel:574-220-7826 Cell


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Osborn
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago



http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
l-tower-84385.htmlhttp://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cell-tower-84385.html



Tower climber went into hypothermia on the 1-23-13 and had to be rescued off
the tower.


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Re: [WISPA] FS....

[Mathew Howard]

I'd be interested in these, how much do you want?

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Sara Gray
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 8:45 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] FS

Ubiquiti M5 Nanobridge qty 5 NIB
Also have about 8 M5 Nanobridges and 8 M2 Nanobridges that have been opened and 
programmed but not deployed.
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Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Mathew Howard]

I'm pretty sure that won't work. As far as I know, UBNT 3.65 isn't compatible 
with anything else, even if Airmax could be disabled - which it can't.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Terry White
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

is it possible to use a Tranzeo 3.65 SU with a UBNT 3.65 AP?

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

I think you are comparing apples to oranges IMO.

19dB Tranzeo vs 8dB Nano is not going to get the same performance.

Regards,
Chuck
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Was that an accurate guess, or do you not remember the Tranzeo stuff either?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Chuck Hogg 
ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I was thinking the same thing...

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Interesting.  Was the 19 in the model a 19dbi?  So you went from an
 8dbi Ubiquiti to 19dbi Tranzeo?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Steve Barnes 
 st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and
  Ubiquiti didn't?
 
  Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2
  Connection rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear down 
  to
  3.3M with 45% CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a solid
  48 MB 90% CCQ.  I have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all
  replaced in DEC due to ICE getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a week or
  two and Change to a Rocket with a new 120* sector.
 
  But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.
 
  Steve Barnes
  General Manager
  PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
 
 Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
 good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
 
  Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and
  Ubiquiti didn't?
 
  I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had
  their stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
  (509-982-2181tel:%28509-982-2181)
  o...@odessaoffice.commailto:o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
  I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the
  same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.
 
  Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!
 
  I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's
  though.
  Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug
 
  Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
  good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
  marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Matt Hoppes 
  mhop...@indigowireless.commailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org
  Cc: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org; 
  ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
 
 
  Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible
  help at defeating noise.
 
 
 
  On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer 
  jdeb...@summitdigital.usmailto:jdeb...@summitdigital.us
  wrote:
 
  I am in process of converting a tower from Tranzeo AP's to Ubquity
  Rocket M2's.  I have the M2's hung and pointed.  I can get the
  clients to connect but I seem to be getting half throughput at best.
 
  I have the Airmax disabled on the M2's and the Clients have been
  running in 802.11b mode previously.
 
  The clients are a mix of Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 radios.  Signal levels
  appear to be a bout the same if not a little better.  My noise floor
  has seem to come up from around -100 to -95/90ish.
 
  At this point I'm a little lost / too frustrated to 

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Mathew Howard]

I'm pretty sure that is accurate. Not exactly a fair comparison...

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

Was that an accurate guess, or do you not remember the Tranzeo stuff either?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 I was thinking the same thing...

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Interesting.  Was the 19 in the model a 19dbi?  So you went from an
 8dbi Ubiquiti to 19dbi Tranzeo?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and
  Ubiquiti didn't?
 
  Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2
  Connection rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear down 
  to
  3.3M with 45% CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a solid
  48 MB 90% CCQ.  I have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all
  replaced in DEC due to ICE getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a week or
  two and Change to a Rocket with a new 120* sector.
 
  But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.
 
  Steve Barnes
  General Manager
  PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
 
 Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
 good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
 
  Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and
  Ubiquiti didn't?
 
  I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had
  their stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
  o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
  I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the
  same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.
 
  Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!
 
  I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's
  though.
  Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug
 
  Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
  good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
  marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org
  Cc: wireless@wispa.org; ubnt_us...@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
 
 
  Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible
  help at defeating noise.
 
 
 
  On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer jdeb...@summitdigital.us
  wrote:
 
  I am in process of converting a tower from Tranzeo AP's to Ubquity
  Rocket M2's.  I have the M2's hung and pointed.  I can get the
  clients to connect but I seem to be getting half throughput at best.
 
  I have the Airmax disabled on the M2's and the Clients have been
  running in 802.11b mode previously.
 
  The clients are a mix of Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 radios.  Signal levels
  appear to be a bout the same if not a little better.  My noise floor
  has seem to come up from around -100 to -95/90ish.
 
  At this point I'm a little lost / too frustrated to think straight.
  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
  Thank you.
 
  --
  Jay DeBoer
 
  Chief Engineer
  Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
  100 N Roland St, Suite B
  McBain, MI 49657
 
  Office: 231-825-2500
  Direct: 231-908-0033
  Fax: 231-908-0039
  jdeb...@summitdigital.us
 
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Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Mathew Howard]

That actually doesn't surprise me too much, In a lot of cases the old 802.11g 
Bullets seem to work better than the M2 stuff, but only where we still have 
802.11g APs, after both sides are upgraded it always seems to work better.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

Sorry Guys I see you point and you would be right.  However, Our Installer was 
using a AirGrid not a Nanostation M2.  Airgrid actually gave better signal 
strength -65 as compared to the Tranzeo  -71 but the Tranzeo had much better 
Connection rate.  Last month had another customer complain off same AP that her 
speeds were terrible.  Got looking and same issue AP RX rate was 3.3.  Went out 
replaced a NSM2 with a standard NS2 connection rates went from 3.3 to 48/2 
(10Mhz Channel)  Install just told me he has had 3 more like that and wants to 
change the sector.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

I was thinking the same thing...

Regards,
Chuck
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Interesting.  Was the 19 in the model a 19dbi?  So you went from an
8dbi Ubiquiti to 19dbi Tranzeo?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
Ubiquiti didn't?

 Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2 Connection 
 rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear down to 3.3M with 
 45% CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a solid 48 MB 90% 
 CCQ.  I have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all replaced in DEC 
 due to ICE getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a week or two and Change to 
 a Rocket with a new 120* sector.

 But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
good luck with the ones I've tried out here.

 Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
 Ubiquiti didn't?

 I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had their 
 stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
 (509-982-2181tel:%28509-982-2181) 
 o...@odessaoffice.commailto:o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
 I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the
 same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.

 Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!

 I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's though.
 Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug

 Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
 good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Matt Hoppes 
 mhop...@indigowireless.commailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
 To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
 ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org
 Cc: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org; 
 ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE


 Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible
 help at defeating noise.



 On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer 
 jdeb...@summitdigital.usmailto:jdeb...@summitdigital.us wrote:

 I am in process of converting a tower from Tranzeo AP's to Ubquity
 Rocket M2's.  I have the M2's hung and pointed.  I can get the
 clients to connect but I seem to be getting half throughput at best.

 I have the Airmax disabled on the M2's and the Clients have been
 running in 802.11b mode previously.

 The clients are a mix of Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 radios.  Signal levels
 appear to be a bout the same if not a little better.  My noise floor
 has seem to come up from around -100 to -95/90ish.

 At this point I'm a little lost / too frustrated 

Re: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s?

[Mathew Howard]

I'd vote for the 90s, but we aren't likely to use anything other than 120s in 
the near future anyway.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Shane MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:59 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s?


We are trying to decide which degree Ubiquiti sectors to release in December.
Our production line can handle two of the three for a mid December release date 
and want your feedback.
The 120 degree version is pretty much a lock but we want your opinion between 
the 90s or 60s so we release the sectors you require.

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Re: [WISPA] Licensed Backhaul

[Mathew Howard]

But that doesn't include dishes, correct?

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Charles Wu
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 3:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed Backhaul

Its nice to see products comming out like APEX9, enabling $6900/link pricing 
standard, which are fully feauture rich to latest standards.

You're a little high on the price - it's $6500 for a full link (and that's the 
rack rate for a single link =)

That price includes high power (e.g., +28 dBm for 11 GHz)

The Apex9 Radios also support compression - in our testing, we got ~390 Mbps 
full duplex with 64 byte packets

-Charles



- Original Message -
From: Blake Covarrubiasmailto:bl...@beamspeed.com
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed Backhaul

We have quite a few Trango licensed radios. They work well. Latency is usually 
under 1ms for each hop.

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On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:16, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Most if not all of the licensed backhauls are very solid and very good.  I have 
a SAF link that is working well.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Marco Coelho 
coelh...@gmail.commailto:coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
Exalt has a nice product line.  How much bandwidth and how far are you trying 
to go are good places to start.

mc
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM, John M. Nix 
j...@cnetworksolutions.commailto:j...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote:
We are thinking of changing our core backhaul from 5.8 Ghz to a Licensed 
solution.  Just wondering what the most cost effective solution would be 
without losing a great deal of quality.

John Nix
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Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

[Mathew Howard]

If I remember correctly that's a re-branded SAF. We have a SAF Lumina 24ghz 
unlicensed link, and it's been working flawlessly and does exactly what was 
promised. It's basically the exact same stuff as their licensed radios. 
5 KM shouldn't be a problem for 24GHZ, but I think that does depend on where 
you are, since 24ghz is supposed to be pretty sensitive to rain fade.

You may want to look at the SAF Lumina, I think our link was right around $10k, 
but it can do up to 366Mbps.  

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jawad A Hai
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

Hello,

Have any body used this product LIGOPTP24-2.
Its on 24 GHZ unlicensed spectrum, does not need an IDU unit. How is the 
product and does it really delivers what the vendor promises. I need about 
100 Mbps link, sites have LOS, distance is around 5 KM. don't wanna use 5 
ghz band its really crowded.
The price band is around 10k USD.
Or can any body suggest me a product in same lines ???
Appreciate your support.

Aali 




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Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

[Mathew Howard]

3.65ghz could be an option as well.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Me
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:57 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

5.4 GHz has to be open.  Use an Exalt link on 5:4 and you can get up to 440 
aggregate with an 80/20 traffic split.  Much cheaper than a Ligowave W4 Ghz

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2011 18:47:55 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2



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Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

[Mathew Howard]

The main reason for doing it is that you don't have to wait for the licensing 
stuff to go through, and there aren't really any disadvantages for short links 
(ours is less than 2 miles).

You can actually get 366mbps with 24ghz for $10k - SAF makes the same radios 
for the same price for 24ghz unlicensed as they do for licensed stuff, but you 
have no license fees.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

Why spend $10k for a 24ghz unlicensed link and 100 mbps when you could spend 
$12k for a licensed link and 366 mbps?  Small amount of money (in the sense of 
this project) for a much greater return.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
For 100 mbps fdx?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
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787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:10 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'

Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

3.65ghz could be an option as well.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Me
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:57 PM
To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

5.4 GHz has to be open.  Use an Exalt link on 5:4 and you can get up to 440 
aggregate with an 80/20 traffic split.  Much cheaper than a Ligowave W4 Ghz

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


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Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2011 18:47:55 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2




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Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

[Mathew Howard]

Umm… no, not 100mbps fdx, but I would think you should be able to get pretty 
close to 100mbps aggregate.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

For 100 mbps fdx?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
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787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:10 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

3.65ghz could be an option as well.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Me
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:57 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2

5.4 GHz has to be open.  Use an Exalt link on 5:4 and you can get up to 440 
aggregate with an 80/20 traffic split.  Much cheaper than a Ligowave W4 Ghz

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2011 18:47:55 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [WISPA] LIGOWAVE PTP24-2



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Re: [WISPA] Proper 24V battery float voltage

[Mathew Howard]

It depends on the temperature, it's been a while since I researched it, but if 
I remember correctly I decided the best compromise around here would be ~27.5v. 
you may want it a little higher or lower depending on your climate.

I would check the battery manufacturer's website, at least one that I checked 
had a chart that showed the proper float voltage at various temperatures.

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Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 1:30 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Proper 24V battery float voltage

Hi,

Would someone mind sharing their experience/suggestion on the proper
float voltage for a 24V battery bank (2x 12V 44Ah AGM batteries)?

I'm using the MeanWell DRP-240-24 along with a DR-UPS40.  It's not a
three phase charger, but just limits the charging current to 2A.  The
voltage is adjustable at the source, and will ultimately determine my
charge/float voltage.  Based on my research, the highest voltage I
should use is 13.8x2 = 27.6 to avoid boiling the batteries but still
achieving a maximum charge.  I was about to move on until I found
another source suggesting that the ideal float voltage for telecom UPS
batteries was 13.2x2 = 26.4.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Nothing on Ebay

[Mathew Howard]

Local pickup only... in Belgium. Probably well worth the trip though.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mark Nash
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nothing on Ebay

If you did, maybe you could get them to combine shipping if you bought more 
than one...

On 4/1/2011 12:13 PM, Nick White wrote:
At least you don't have to pay for shipping!

On 4/1/2011 11:36 AM, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
I can find anything on Ebay. How about NOTHING?
http://cgi.ebay.com/BUY-NOTHING-/200592911741?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb444ed7d

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Re: [WISPA] Remote monitoring/ remote reboot

[Mathew Howard]

I'd be interested in this. Please send some more info.

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Remote monitoring/ remote reboot

 

Hello,

We've been working on building a remote monitoring/remote reboot
board for awhile now, mostly for internal use. It runs on 9.5-55v, so we
are going to be using it at some of our solar sites to monitor battery
voltage and send alerts if they aren't charging, as well as the
capability to remotely reboot radios. Oh, and it keeps track of
temperature and turns a fan on if it gets too warm/ sends alerts at high
enough temps.

Anyway, we've got a couple out there, and we want to make another
fifteen. However, it looks like it'll be WAY cheaper if we order 100...
so we were wondering if anyone else would be interested in buying some.
I think it'll be around $100 in quantity. If anyone is interested, I can
send the data sheet and screencaps of the web interface. 

 

Thanks!

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Re: [WISPA] PPPoE Concentrators

[Mathew Howard]

We're using FreeBSD based servers, takes a bit of setup but we haven't
had any real problems.

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We are looking at rolling out PPPoE in our network and are curious what
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from those of you who have it in production. On or offlist welcome.

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Re: [WISPA] Grid dish material

[Mathew Howard]

Depends what kind, I think they are either cast aluminum or galvanized
steel.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:51 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Grid dish material

What material are the old school 2.4 GHz grid dishes made of?


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Re: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio

[Mathew Howard]

I've seen this happen a few times... it's usually easiest to just put a
switch or router in.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio

OK, here's a good one.

Have a long term customer that can't get internet all of the sudden.

Shows no cable plugged into his computer.

Had him try a laptop, it worked fine.

Next had him take his computer to a repair shop for a new nic card.  His
computer DID work in town though.

Back home, it wouldn't work with the radio.

So I went out there to check this out.  My laptop would work just fine.
His desktop wouldn't.

I ended up installing a router and all is working nicely now.  His
computer will talk to the router, but going right to the radio we show
no cable connected.

Anyone seen this before?

I assume this is being caused by some kind of voltage miss match that
the other devices aren't as sensitive to?

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

[Mathew Howard]

It's all listed on their Ubiquiti's website now too.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:52 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

 

Not sure if this link will work, But here is the email I got.
https://app.e2ma.net/app/view:CampaignPublic/id:10197.8501156949/rid:beb
eccdc782349e37791c1b412a6dd1f

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106

 http://www.brevardwireless.com/files/email.gif 

 



From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:47 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

Please share the release or at least a URL.

 

Mike Ford (UBNT)  said the following last Friday regarding the M900
line:

 

Hey Guys,

This has been delayed.  I am trying to get a definitive date for you.

Thanks,

 

 

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ 

RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ 

 

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Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:23 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

 

Just got the announcement for the release of the UBNT 900 products.
Anyone do any pre-release testing with these yet?  How is the
performance?

 

 

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 for 802.11a??

[Mathew Howard]

You can't set them to A only, but any A stuff that I've tried works fine
with them in A/N mixed mode.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 for 802.11a??

 

I guess the question is best put as:  Can I configure/modify a Bullet M5
to work with nanostation 5s??

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

If it was like the other airmax great you need at least 5.2ish for A.

On Aug 3, 2010 11:41 AM, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com
wrote:

may be a dumb question, but is it possible to use a bullet M5
for normal 802.11a on 5.8 GHz?  Is there a different firmware image to
upload?  

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, I know we probably won't be able to get them for a long, long time
- I was just pointing out that the specs are there...

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Sharples
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

 

So is the XR1. Now, go try and buy one :-)

- Original Message - 

From: Mathew Howard mailto:mat...@litewire.net  

To: n...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List
mailto:wireless@wispa.org  

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:17 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

 

It's all listed on their Ubiquiti's website now too.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:52 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

 

Not sure if this link will work, But here is the email I got.

https://app.e2ma.net/app/view:CampaignPublic/id:10197.8501156949/rid:beb
eccdc782349e37791c1b412a6dd1f

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106

 http://www.brevardwireless.com/files/email.gif 

 





From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:47 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

Please share the release or at least a URL.

 

Mike Ford (UBNT)  said the following last Friday regarding the
M900 line:

 

Hey Guys,

This has been delayed.  I am trying to get a definitive date for
you.

Thanks,

 

 

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ 

RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:23 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900

 

Just got the announcement for the release of the UBNT 900
products.  Anyone do any pre-release testing with these yet?  How is the
performance?

 

 

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 for 802.11a??

[Mathew Howard]

We have several of them connected to StarOS radios at 10mhz with no
problems - I haven't tried it with anything else though.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 for 802.11a??

 

devil is in details,  I need 10Mhz channel and simple 64bit WEP to work
if this is to match the system its replacing.  any ideas??



On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net
wrote:

You can't set them to A only, but any A stuff that I've tried works fine
with them in A/N mixed mode.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 for 802.11a??

 

I guess the question is best put as:  Can I configure/modify a Bullet M5
to work with nanostation 5s??

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

If it was like the other airmax great you need at least 5.2ish for A.

On Aug 3, 2010 11:41 AM, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com
wrote:

may be a dumb question, but is it possible to use a bullet M5
for normal 802.11a on 5.8 GHz?  Is there a different firmware image to
upload?  

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos

[Mathew Howard]

We usually attach 6-8' to the silo, which gives you about 15' above and
clears the dome nicely.

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mounting on silos

 

Unfortunately at least one of the silos has no bands, so it will be
screws, I guess.

One silo we did use a 21' pipe and it still does not clear the dome.
How much pipe to attach to the silo, so how far above the concrete do
you get?

Bill Gaylord wrote: 

We do the same thing, but we use the full 21' galvanized pipes from the 
hardware store.  I secure them with hose 2 hose clamps around at least 4

of the steel rings.  I did not want to screw into the concrete, as I was

concerned with the screws being able to come loose.  With hose clamps 
around the steel rings, nothing can wiggle loose.  We have been doing 
this for 5 years now and have yet to have a single hose clamp break.  
Hose clamps are also stainless steel, so rusting is not an issue.
 
Bill Gaylord, President
COLI Inc.
 
On 7/16/2010 8:08 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
  

16' Schedule 40 Pipe.  I have 4 silos like this.  Attach pipe
with L
brackets (Old ARC Antenna mounts) to the silo with RedHeads
(concrete
anchors) into the concrete.  Push up pole, with usually about 6'
remaining (attached) on the silo and 8-10'  sticking above the
cap.  I
get the pipe from a local fencing and hardware company.  They
have it in
20' sections usually.
 
Used to us 30' push up poles, but they bend too easily.
 
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Mounting on silos
 
I have a couple of POPs that are silos.  Several of them are old
concrete silos with metal domes.  The top of the dome is more
than 10'
above the top of the concrete.  I have been mounting with 10'
pipe on
the ladder side and not servicing customers on the back side.
It has
also worked out that the backhauls are on the ladder side as
well.
This year the trees seem to be growing a lot more leaves than in
the
past.  I have a couple of silos that I need to get the backhaul
higher
than the 10' mast will allow.  If I can get above the dome, I
could also
increase the covereage area.
So, the question is, for those of you using silos, how to you
get above
the dome?
 
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Sr. Systems Engineer
GAB Midwest
1-800-363-1544 x2241
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Cell: 260-273-7239
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, I can only remember one customer ever complaining about PS3
problems, the Xbox on the other hand, we have problems with all the time
- although those are mainly caused by NAT, which doesn't seem to bother
the PS3.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 11:25 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

That's odd...every other mention of consoles includes Xbox problems and
wishing it was as problem free as the PS3 and Wii.

On 5/28/10, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:
 My favorite is those damn PS3 customers.  If the PS3 servers sense 
 even one time-out or several pings above what they want the customer 
 calls screaming that we are at fault.  It's forced us to follow our 
 network back until we found a switch causing the intermittent 
 time-outs (about one every 15 minutes or so).  I guess I should be 
 thankful that they caused me to diagnose our network finding a 
 potential problem but I have to admit my first feeling is why don't 
 you get a damn job instead of playing games all day... OK so that 
 thought isn't so realistic but if Sony had a better software solution 
 I wouldn't get these daily calls for my customers $59/month account, 
 heck almost no other console gives me the heartache that PS3 does.

 On 5/27/2010 10:26 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
 On 05/27/2010 01:23 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote:

 and the customer who does perpetual speed tests and as soon as he 
 doesn't get his speed ( even though he knows it is best effort and 
 not dedicated) wants you to come out.


 Wait a minute we have that customer too...so he's using you for a 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison

[Mathew Howard]

And a price comparison?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:52 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison

Did you do a throughput comparison?

++
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From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison

 Just for fun

 AP1000   Ubiqiuti
 KN TurboCellAirOS
  1992 2009

 Polling MAC Yes Yes
 Radius MAC Auth Yes No
 Metal Enclosure Yes No
 Rugged RF connectors No No
 Modular Wirless Interfaces Yes No
 Per Client RF Stats Yes No
 Complete SNMP MIBs Yes No


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Re: [WISPA] AirGrid PoE

[Mathew Howard]

I've played with one a bit, they won't even take 12 volts. the only
hope I can see to get longer run out of them would be to use something
like 7-9 volts, but I haven't had a chance to test what the max is
they'll take yet...

Polarity isn't reversed - it's still standard 4/5+ and 7/8-.

Robert West wrote:

  Okay, okay...  I ordered a few of the UBNT AirGrids from Jerry over at
Pasadena Networks.  Says it runs from a 5v PASSIVE connection from the
customers USB port.  Eh?  65 foot maximum Cat5 run for the 5v.  A 65
foot run would be a bit under my norm.  I see using a separate injector
being standard for me with these but if they run with 5v (sheeesh) I can
only hope a normal injector with 15 or 24 volts can be tolerated by these
but since they are setup as a passive PoE, the polarity is swapped so to use
a normal PoE I gotta cross over the pairs

 

Has anyone installed these yet?  Any tips, trick, frustrations to share?

 

Thanks!

 

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Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 

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