[WISPA] Looking for Field People

[Scott Piehn via Wireless]

Apologize if it is not appropriate to post this type of topic, We are looking 
to higher a couple of Field Installers for wireless Internet and/or Tower 
people.  Located in NW Illinois.  Starting pay is $13 – $24 / hour based on 
experience 

https://www.jcwifi.com/jcwifi-careers.html

email spi...@computerdyn.com


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[WISPA] Hard hat class

[Scott Piehn]

We are getting new hard hats for our ground people when around a tower.  I seem 
to remember the standard helmet class is not enough even if the person is just 
a ground person.  they still need a different class hard hat.  Does this ring a 
bell with anyone and if so, what class hard hat am I looking for

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Re: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

[Scott Piehn]

Customer side surveys when a tower needs to be built to determine how high it 
would take to get LOS


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From: David Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:58 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] What would you use a drone for?

Good day, I am trying to list out all the uses for a drone to justify buying 
one. 

Here are a few that I have come up with:

1. New tower site surveys. we are running into areas that our standard 45' 
tower will not cut it. (I know its short but hey we have elevation changes from 
7200' to 8600' in less than 3 miles.) a drone could be used to determine how 
high a tower needs to be to get the best coverage.

2. Tower maintenance. We have a water tower that we are on that is no longer in 
use nor maintained. The top ladder is about to fall off and we need to get it 
repaired. A drone can take the needed pictures from the top to help us 
determine what parts/bolts/welder we need to fix it. That would save a trip 
with an 80' bucket truck so we only will need it once.

What else can anyone think of for use of a drone? What would justify the cost 
to make it clearly a tool and not a toy?


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Re: [WISPA] Cat6 shieded with Dry Tape

[Scott Piehn]

got a box of cable coming.  How about the ends.  The two piece Cat6 shielded.  

We have been getting some from Amazon.  any input on the primus ones




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From: mike.l...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat6 shieded with Dry Tape

Check out Primus cable. I switched from Shireen to them because of that exact 
issue.

On Mar 30, 2017, at 09:51, Scott Piehn <li...@jcwifi.com> wrote:


  Anyone using Cat 6 Outdoor cable, shielded with a dry gel tape.  If so, who 
makes it

  We have been using the shireen Cat6 shielded, like the cable, but not the 
water in the cable issue



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[WISPA] Cat6 shieded with Dry Tape

[Scott Piehn]

Anyone using Cat 6 Outdoor cable, shielded with a dry gel tape.  If so, who 
makes it

We have been using the shireen Cat6 shielded, like the cable, but not the water 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for startup suggestions

[Scott Piehn]

Have a person that has the opposite personality than you.  Helps if the two 
of you have to agree

A money person and the Tech
A sales person and the Tech
etc

Has really saved us a lot of bad decisions.

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-Original Message- 
From: Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 4:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for startup suggestions

We have helped several startup wisps, and I’ve been a startup myself.  Quick 
10,000 foot overview.

1.Invest in a good backend from the start.  Billing, monitoring, etc.  That 
way you can concentrate on installing customers.
2.Make the network modular enough to swap out vendors down the road.
3.Don’t get too caught up on technology.  Create some goals, have a coverage 
area, and then see what vendors fit that.
4.Plan for growth on your backbone internet connections.  Have a game plan 
if you need 50 megs, 100, 500, etc.
5.Attend WispAmerica next month.  Lots of info.



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> On Feb 2, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Mark Limehouse  
> wrote:
>
>   I am at the discovery and the beginning of research to start a WISP 
> within my state (Wisconsin). My focus is to make this into a solid 
> business model that I can build and expand eventually. I am taking my time 
> I want to do this right and address all potential pitfalls or "gotchas" 
> that may be known from a technology and provider standpoint. Would anyone 
> be kind enough to offer up their suggestions or direct me to where I can 
> obtain this kind of detail?
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Scott Piehn]

Currently we pay $300 for annual maintenance on a custom built system.  We 
have a box in our office we maintain.




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-Original Message- 
From: Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

it depends on your budget and on your goal

there are various around but the main question is how much you think you
want to pay such a service

for small and simple installations radius manager could be a solution

there are also many online "cloud" solutions for MT



> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for
> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours
> needs to be replaced
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[WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Scott Piehn]

I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for MT 
hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours needs to be 
replaced

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Re: [WISPA] Tower Climbing Requirements

[Scott Piehn]

we are a little drive from you, but if you are interested, we are better 
equipped and trained then local EMS and would we willing to go over stuff with 
you

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From: Bob Moldashel 
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 1:31 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climbing Requirements

Tim,

Here is a quick summary.

The employer is responsible for maintaining a safe work environment.  With that 
said anyone climbing an elevated structure is expected to be trained and 
properly equipped with the correct personal safety equipment. OSHA has basic 
requirements (of which I don't have in front of me but will try to get you a 
link or two). The ultimate responsibility falls on the employer regardless of 
the amount of employees he or she has. Regardless where the training was 
received, the business owner is responsible for certifying the person doing 
the climbing.

A sole proprieter or the company owner has the right to climb without the need 
to comply with OSHA requirements. He is not considered an employee and, as 
such, is exempt from OSHA regulations.

There are numerous companies out there that are providing varying levels of 
training and will provide a certificate showing that training was completed. 
Most training is only a day or two long with one day classroom and one day on a 
structure. Actual time on the structure is usually only a few hours.  Most are 
just awareness classes IMHO and don't really cover everything that's needed to 
be known to safely operating in the air.

Now the next issue.  

It also depends who owns the structure and what their requirements are. Many 
large tower companies like SBA, American Tower, etc are requiring Comtrain or 
equivalent outside training certifications for anyone on their towers. Others 
could care less as long as you have the proper insurance.  And while we are on 
the subject of Insurancea lot of tower companies/water tanks are looking 
for high general liability coverage.  $5 million is not unusual anymore.  A few 
sites we work on have $10 million GL requirements.  You should ask that 
question before committing to any work.

Anything over 6' and you need fall arrest harness and lanyard. 

Hope that helps and is not confusing the matter.

-B-

Bob Moldashel







On 1/7/2015 1:28 PM, Tim Way wrote:

  How does one find out the legal requirements for performing tower climbing in 
a locality? I am located in Brown County, WI and I can't seem to drum up an 
intelligible Google search that finds me the answer or anyone at my local 
county offices that talk to me. 

  I'm interested in knowing:
a.. What kind of training or certifications might be needed

b.. Which government offices that I would need to register with

  a.. Like which level of government, federal, state, county/city and which 
offices 
c.. Are there break points where you either need training or don't

  a.. Example: for a tower under 50 feet you can do it yourself without any 
requirements vs a tower over 50 feet you need to do x, y and z things to be 
legal. (totally made up situation but you get it) 
d.. Anything else you experienced folks happen to know.


  Thanks in advance,

  Tim

   

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Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

[Scott Piehn]

What would be your take if their AP uses the same SSID as yours.  Assuming 
Ruckus etc can knock out only that type of AP


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From: Dennis Burgess 
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

While I understand your reasoning, I would disagree.   If you could do this, 
for the security of a WISP, we will shut down all Access Points via Deauth 
attack that my Access Points can see.  Also note, I am not talking for the FCC, 
but for what I believe is right, in this case, you can’t own a location or area 
of the wifi bands, therefore, you can’t cause harmful interference, and a 
deauth attack would be harmful, and interference.  

 

I  can agree that you can detect it and shut it off on a port on your network, 
but you should not be able to interfere with other operations, regardless if it 
is your property or not.  Maybe that’s not the intent from those actions, but 
it’s clear that if it’s not on your network then you can’t do much about it.
Now, if they are on your property, sure you can tell them to turn it off or 
leave, but that’s another issue. lol

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

 

There is no mention of a blanket refusal. In the FCC citation, the fact that 
they're charging for Internet access is brought up every time the deauthing 
activity is.

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-329743A1.pdf

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1444A1.pdf

In reading that second one, they also keep bringing up that Marriott charged 
for Internet (and a lot at that).

Specifically, such employees had used this capability to prevent users from 
connecting to the Internet via their own personal Wi-Fi networks when these 
users did not pose a threat to the security of the Gaylord Opryland network or 
its guests.

Sounds like security is a viable defense.



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From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:43:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

You cannot do it at all….  

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

 

You can do it all day long within your own company. Marriott was doing it to 
force people to give them money. A company doing it has plenty of other reasons.



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From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

Note that many of these systems (rather rogue AP prevention) have been deemed 
illegal by the FCC, a hotel chain was fined 600k I think due to it.  

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

 

I have a customer that is being required to get rogue access point detection.  
not a one time thing but ongoing detection.  What products have people used. 




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[WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

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I have a customer that is being required to get rogue access point detection.  
not a one time thing but ongoing detection.  What products have people used. 



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Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

[Scott Piehn]

Looks like detection is ok.
Containment is not.  

On the containment side.  Is there a way to contain in only the following two 
situations

SSID is same as yours
AP is plugged into your network.


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From: Dennis Burgess 
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:50 AM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

Nov of last year!  http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/travel/marriott-fcc-wi-fi-fine/

 

 

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den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Eric Albert
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

 

This article goes back a few years but should help to frame this discussion. 

 

http://www.theruckusroom.net/2010/08/when-wips-really-hurt.html

 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:

Yep, you do not control the airwaves in your business, therefor you cannot 
interfere with any “access point” that conforms with Part-15.  

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Adair Winter
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

 

a public place such as a hotel chain vs my private business where I needed to 
be able to control the wifi and keep things like wifi pineapples from snooping 
on my business would be not allowed?

 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:

Note that many of these systems (rather rogue AP prevention) have been deemed 
illegal by the FCC, a hotel chain was fined 600k I think due to it.  

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

 

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Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:49 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

 

I have a customer that is being required to get rogue access point detection.  
not a one time thing but ongoing detection.  What products have people used. 




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Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

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o  Thanks for the info.

will pose that question to the auditor


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From: Dennis Burgess 
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

Note that many of these systems (rather rogue AP prevention) have been deemed 
illegal by the FCC, a hotel chain was fined 600k I think due to it.  

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

 

I have a customer that is being required to get rogue access point detection.  
not a one time thing but ongoing detection.  What products have people used. 




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[WISPA] Magnetic mounts

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At one time a saw a vendor member that did magnetic mounts for water towers.  
Anyone remember the company name

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[WISPA] Ubnt RocketM2 stock

[Scott Piehn]

Does anyone have any in stock they would be willing to part with.  Looking to 
purchase 15



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Re: [WISPA] UPS With SNMP Support

[Scott Piehn]

That unit looks to be a 48v based system.  I don't have the specific 
connectors for it.  The model we use is
http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtSeriesID=934txtModelID=3180

We don't get Tripplite snmp cards as they seem to have a high failure rate 
and the packetflux can give us the same.

For batteries, I guess you could use sealed type, but we have just been 
using the Deepcycle from the local hardware store.
for the connector, I don't remember the company off hand but can look it up



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From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UPS With SNMP Support


 I know this is going to be different from most people, but we use 
 Tripplite.
 The dual conversion models (I think the clean power helps with lockups).
 The run time sucks on the base unit, but I found the connector they use 
 for
 add on battery packs. The 1000va unit is a 24 volt based system, and it
 doesn't appear to damage deep cycle batteries, so just hook us as many 
 pairs
 as you need. Plastic boxes with #6 jumper cables works very well for 4
 batteries mounted upright, or the same box can hold 6 batteries laying on
 the ground. Then we add a packetflux to monitor battery voltage and AC
 voltage via some left over transformer. Use a chart on your monitoring
 software to give you percentage of battery and alerting on the AC side.

 We do not do a LVD. 2 deep cycles gives us 24 hours at most sites, so we
 just send someone out after 20 hours if the power is going to be out 
 longer.

 Was looking at this model:

 http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=4387

 Offers SNMP and email alerts.  Noticed the connector on the back.
 Wander if we can build our own external packs as well?  Does this look
 like the same connector as your units?  What did you use for
 batteries?  I am guessing 72 volt?


 
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Re: [WISPA] UPS With SNMP Support

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I know this is going to be different from most people, but we use Tripplite. 
The dual conversion models (I think the clean power helps with lockups). 
The run time sucks on the base unit, but I found the connector they use for 
add on battery packs.  The 1000va unit is a 24 volt based system, and it 
doesn't appear to damage deep cycle batteries, so just hook us as many pairs 
as you need.  Plastic boxes with #6 jumper cables works very well for 4 
batteries mounted upright, or the same box can hold 6 batteries laying on 
the ground.  Then we add a packetflux to monitor battery voltage and AC 
voltage via some left over transformer.  Use a chart on your monitoring 
software to give you percentage of battery and alerting on the AC side.

We do not do a LVD.  2 deep cycles gives us 24 hours at most sites, so we 
just send someone out after 20 hours if the power is going to be out longer.


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Computer Dynamics
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Freeport, IL 61032
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F 815.233.6225
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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 10:33 AM
Subject: [WISPA] UPS With SNMP Support


I am looking for a UPS I can monitor battery status and AC status with
 SNMP.  Decent sized would be nice as well.  Anybody know of anything?


 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for 50-100Mbps link in Stockton

[Scott Piehn]

Maybe I missed it, but which state.  If illinois, I can do


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- Original Message - 
  From: Jerry Richardson 
  To: motor...@afmug.com ; WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 1:08 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Looking for 50-100Mbps link in Stockton


  50-100 Mbps for DS3 backup near Holman and E Hammer Lane. Looking to resell 
the circuit.

   

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[WISPA] Extra Canopy 900 SMs

[Scott Piehn]

Just wondering if there is a market and how much for Canopy 900 SMs.

We have 100 or so extra due to upgrades to get higher speed


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[WISPA] re Extra Canopy 900 SMs

[Scott Piehn]

Will be a Mix of 8 - 10  mostly P9 I think
are connectorized

Not really sure on price.  Have to go based on what community says is fair.

Have an office person going through now making a count of P version




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  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Scott Piehn
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:57 AM
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  Subject: [WISPA] Extra Canopy 900 SMs


  Just wondering if there is a market and how much for Canopy 900 SMs.

  We have 100 or so extra due to upgrades to get higher speed


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Re: [WISPA] Extra Canopy 900 SMs

[Scott Piehn]

Ubiquiti M5s.  

Where we can do the switch due to trees, have been very happy.  Has defiantly 
cut down on service calls.

We still have all the 900 APs in the air, just fewer customers on them.



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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom DeReggi 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 11:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra Canopy 900 SMs


  For curiosity, what did you upgrade to, to get higher speeds than the Canopy?
  And how did it work out for you? 

  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Scott Piehn 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:56 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Extra Canopy 900 SMs


Just wondering if there is a market and how much for Canopy 900 SMs.

We have 100 or so extra due to upgrades to get higher speed


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Re: [WISPA] High connect rates

[Scott Piehn]

yes
ip
firewall
filter rules

specify source ip and action of drop to be nice or tar pit if you want to me 
mean


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- Original Message - 
From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:37 AM
Subject: [WISPA] High connect rates


I am experiencing high connect rates from one ip address to all of my 
public ip addresses. It's starting to cause problems. Is there any way to 
stop it in mikrotik?

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[WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

[Scott Piehn]

We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge router 
trying to figure out who is using what

Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more 
efficient way.
I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower

thanks in advance


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Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge

[Scott Piehn]

#2  Trying to aggregate to make easier.

I am trying the simple Q route.  have about 2300 in the edge router.  CPU is 
around 20 - 25%

Not sure if I am creating another issue somewhere else with the # of Qs in one 
place



-
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge


  What are you trying to add on that you are missing?  Can't you just look at 
the simple queues at each tower to figure out what a customer is using?  Are 
you trying to aggregate them all to make it easier?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:

We currently Q each customer at the tower.  I am looking at my edge router 
trying to figure out who is using what

Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more 
efficient way.
I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower

thanks in advance


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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Available

[Scott Piehn]

If you can't find a supplier, have 2 - 4 with light use would be happy to 
let go.

hit me off list

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From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:31 PM
Subject: [WISPA] SR9 Available


 Anyone know of a supplier with SR9 cards in stock?

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Re: [WISPA] Wow

[Scott Piehn]

As is usual with bad ideas that sound great.  The first assumption is 
flawed.  After the first flawed idea, everything else is very logical and 
sounds great.

ISPs provide your internet access.  You can use it as much as you want, for 
anything you want.

This ignores the concept of oversubscription.

We pay $450 for 5 mb and sell that same 5 mb for $40.



Scott Piehn


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From: Larry A Weidig lwei...@excel.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Wow


 Just wanted to pass this along, as I think it summarizes what
 the general public believes is the entire issue at stake:
 http://www.theopeninter.net/
 Yikes!

 * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
 * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
 * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
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Re: [WISPA] Webcam

[Scott Piehn]

Would love to put cammers, but haven't found a way to have them paid for or 
justify.
Has anyone found grants, or tv station that what would pay for the upfront 
cost?


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From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Webcam


 I'm interested in putting one to two cameras at each tower then having
 them stream into a single DVR at our head-end.  How do we accomplish that?

 On 10/26/2010 8:01 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
 Axis camera



 
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Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks

[Scott Piehn]

What do you consider a brute force attack?

We tarpit traffic coming into our network on ssh, ftp, etc.  then put an 
exception list for known server customers.  

I am always looking to identify and block extra stuff at our border




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- Original Message - 
  From: RickG 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks


  Not here. What ip range?


  On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
wrote:

Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those 
Chinese so-and so’s?  (WISPA REGS)



My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways.  Sad  



Never had that before.  Even the Routerboard I use at the house.  
RELENTLESS!  



Just sharing  They get swatted off so it’s all good but it’s 
interesting to watch their attack



Moving on.



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Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency

[Scott Piehn]

Thank you for the input
we are in the discussion phase, but want to be prepared for the next step if 
we don't have good results


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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 We have no protection from interference at the part-15 level.

 But there is civil protection against deliberate acts of espionage,
 terrorism, strong arming etc.

 Maybe Larry knows someone in your state.

 I'd also call the FCC (800-callfcc) and ask to speak to an enforcement
 person.  They'll hook you up with the person in your state who will then
 want to see the evidence that you've put forth.  I've turned people in for
 running outside the rules and had success in doing so.  I tried to talk to
 them first, get them to fix what they were doing so that we'd all be 
 better
 off.  They refused, I escalated the situation.  They got a fine and had to
 redesign their network, in the end my system works better and my customers
 are happier.  Their system runs better and their customers are happier too
 (that's the only down side to it :-).

 Also, go talk to the local law enforcement folks that deal with more
 technical issues.  Chances are there is some kind of racketeering law that
 could be used against these guys.

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 6:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 Already have the spectrum Analyzer,  already documenting
 I was under the impression that Part 15 had no protection

 I would gladly pursue legal options if they exist.  Anyone point me to
 lawyer, source of information, etc

 
 Scott Piehn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 Yeah, that was my first thought.

 The only reason to do this is to cause problems for someone.

 Do NOT go that route Scott.  It's always the second one in a fight that
 gets
 into the most trouble.

 Get a hold of a spectrum analyzer, document what's being done and then
 sue
 their tails off.  The FCC, local law enforcement etc. will go after
 anyone
 being malicious with the spectrum.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 what comes around goes around.


 
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 This begs the question, Why?

 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
 I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or
 something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have 
 one.
 Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to.

 This is using ubnt M5 line



 
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Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency

[Scott Piehn]

Already have the spectrum Analyzer,  already documenting
I was under the impression that Part 15 had no protection

I would gladly pursue legal options if they exist.  Anyone point me to 
lawyer, source of information, etc


Scott Piehn
- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 Yeah, that was my first thought.

 The only reason to do this is to cause problems for someone.

 Do NOT go that route Scott.  It's always the second one in a fight that 
 gets
 into the most trouble.

 Get a hold of a spectrum analyzer, document what's being done and then sue
 their tails off.  The FCC, local law enforcement etc. will go after anyone
 being malicious with the spectrum.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 what comes around goes around.


 
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 This begs the question, Why?

 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
 I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or
 something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one.
 Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to.

 This is using ubnt M5 line



 
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[WISPA] saturate frequency

[Scott Piehn]

I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or something 
else, but that takes two sides to the link.  I only have one.
Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to.

This is using ubnt M5 line





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Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency

[Scott Piehn]

MT.  on the ethernet




Scott Piehn
- Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


  Hmm, ping flood on the rf side? What do you have it plugged in to?

  On Oct 14, 2010 10:56 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
   I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or 
something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one.
   Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to.
   
   This is using ubnt M5 line
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency

[Scott Piehn]

what comes around goes around.



Scott Piehn
- Original Message - 
From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] saturate frequency


 This begs the question, Why?

 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
 I know you can completely use spectrum by doing a bandwidth test or
 something else, but that takes two sides to the link. I only have one.
 Is it possible without a remote site you are linking to.

 This is using ubnt M5 line



 
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[WISPA] sip trafic but not?

[Scott Piehn]

I am seeing in my MT firewall connections traffic that is flagged as sip, but 
the source port and destination port is the same 5060.  Allot of the remote 
sites are not in the US.

question:  Will the following rule drop and good traffic.  like actual phone 
calls

X chain=forward action=drop protocol=udp src-port=5060 dst-port=5060 

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Re: [WISPA] sip trafic but not?

[Scott Piehn]

thats my problem, we don't really have a voice offering so I am not completly 
up on what is good and bad


-
Scott Piehn


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] sip trafic but not?


  Sip is usually tcp.  It is for signaling, not voice.  That's rtp.

  Should be ok but check your voice product first.

  On Oct 13, 2010 9:02 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
   I am seeing in my MT firewall connections traffic that is flagged as sip, 
but the source port and destination port is the same 5060. Allot of the remote 
sites are not in the US.
   
   question: Will the following rule drop and good traffic. like actual phone 
calls
   
   X chain=forward action=drop protocol=udp src-port=5060 dst-port=5060 
   
   -
   Scott Piehn



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Re: [WISPA] sip trafic but not?

[Scott Piehn]

I don't want to block legitimate VOIP traffic,

so when the source and destination are the same, that can be legitimate?


-
Scott Piehn


- Original Message - 
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] sip trafic but not?


 We did this on the MT

 set sip disabled=yes ports=5060,5061

 What you are proposing will also block legitimate VOIP traffic thru the
 Mikrotik.

 Regards.


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom


 On 10/13/2010 9:01 AM, Scott Piehn wrote:
 I am seeing in my MT firewall connections traffic that is flagged as
 sip, but the source port and destination port is the same 5060. Allot of
 the remote sites are not in the US.
 question: Will the following rule drop and good traffic. like actual
 phone calls
 X chain=forward action=drop protocol=udp src-port=5060 dst-port=5060
 -
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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Looking to Sell..........

[Scott Piehn]

I work with Sara who started the thread

We have 40 - 80 currently and will have more that would like to move
CPQ19's  all generations, current firmware





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Computer Dynamics
451 W. South St
Freeport, IL 61032
spi...@computerdyn.com
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- Original Message - 
From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


 Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios
 for sale, please contact me.   We are switching to 10mhz channels and I
 have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out.

 I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot
 easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo,
 and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a
 Ubiquiti radio.

 Matt Larsen
 mlar...@vistabeam.com


 On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 An NS2 is $80 list.

 I think most will agree it is superior, too.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

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 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net 
 wrote:

 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that 
 gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even 
 less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky 
 to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..



 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. 
 Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





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[WISPA] Form 477 Survey results from a couple of months ago

[Scott Piehn]

a couple of months ago I put a survey up about form 477.  Last week someone 
emailed and asked about final results.  following is the raw data.  I don't 
think there is any identifying information that will upset anyone, if there is, 
my sincere apologies

Link to the origional survey is
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3RZTC9F



  Customer Base Subscribers File Want Help 
  Increasing 500 Yes  
  Increasing 3500 Yes  
  Increasing 200 No  
  Increasing 450 Late  
  Increasing 1100 Yes  
  Increasing 150 Late  
  Increasing 2015 Yes  
  Increasing 250 Yes  
  Increasing 1 No  
  Increasing 700 No  
  Increasing 110 No  
  Increasing 1800 Yes  
  Increasing 380 No  
  Increasing 2577 Late  
  Increasing 5000 No  
  Increasing 2700 Yes  
  Increasing 1800 No  
  Increasing 1175 Yes  
  Decreasing 200 Late  
  Increasing 2000 Late  
  Increasing 310 Yes  
  Increasing 250 What Yes 
  Increasing 685 Yes Yes 
  Increasing 150 No Yes 
  Increasing 350 Yes  
  Increasing 1100 Yes No 
  Increasing 629 No Yes 
  Increasing 380 Late  
  Increasing  No Yes 
  Increasing 400 No Yes 
  Increasing 400 Yes  
  Increasing 1300 Yes  
  Increasing 200 Yes  
  Increasing 2025 Late Yes 
  Decreasing 240 No No 
  Increasing 560 Late  
  Decreasing 400 No No 
  Increasing 600 No Yes 
  Increasing 30 Yes  
  Increasing 200 No Yes 
  Increasing 2100 Yes  
  Decreasing 4028 Yes  
  Increasing 180 Yes  
  Increasing 2490 Yes Yes 
  Increasing 500 No Yes 
  Increasing 1300 No Yes 
  Increasing 1600 Yes  
  Increasing 4500 Late  
  Increasing 1000 No Yes 
  Increasing 560 Late  
  Increasing 500 Yes  
  Increasing 220 No Yes 
  Increasing 130 No Yes 
  Increasing 200 Yes  
  Increasing 530 No Yes 
  Decreasing 15 No No 
  Increasing 500 Late Yes 
  Increasing 2300 No No 
  Increasing 2600 Late Yes 
  Increasing 300 No No 
  Increasing 700 Late  
  Increasing 57 No Yes 
  Increasing 602 Yes  
  Increasing 600 Yes  
  Increasing 1500 Yes  
  Increasing 425 No Yes 
  Increasing 300 Yes Yes 
  Increasing 1634 Yes  
  Increasing 4500 Yes  
  Increasing 3520 No No 
  Increasing 1400 Yes No 
  Increasing 50 No Yes 
  Decreasing 300 Yes  
  Increasing 435 No Yes 
  Increasing 210 Yes  
 679 No Yes 
  Increasing 1100 Yes  



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[WISPA] DC Powered sites

[Scott Piehn]

We a looking to setup a couple of our sites to run directly from DC power.  AC 
comes in, convert to DC
At this point, plan is to have a 24v setup of deep cycle batteries.  
Use a packetflux to monitor the battery voltage level
Use a digital logger DIN relay for remote reboot.
Use the PacWireless DC POE injectors for 12 - 48 volt output

What I am totally not sure on is the charging/power piece.  
The initial site is going to have
Canopy CMM micro with 1 powered port
8 Mikotik routerboards,
switch

?should I run things directly from the battery, or how should it be powered
?what kind of charger should I get


Thanks for your input


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Re: [WISPA] DC Powered sites

[Scott Piehn]

My only concern is taking damage on one device and it spreading to the 
entire tower


Scott Piehn


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC Powered sites


 Scott, also, check out these if you have a bunch of POE injectors.
 http://store.jeffcosoho.com/product_p/tp-ncms312-24.htm


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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Piehn
 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:26 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] DC Powered sites

 We a looking to setup a couple of our sites to run directly from DC
 power.  AC comes in, convert to DC
 At this point, plan is to have a 24v setup of deep cycle batteries.
 Use a packetflux to monitor the battery voltage level
 Use a digital logger DIN relay for remote reboot.
 Use the PacWireless DC POE injectors for 12 - 48 volt output

 What I am totally not sure on is the charging/power piece.
 The initial site is going to have
 Canopy CMM micro with 1 powered port
 8 Mikotik routerboards,
 switch

 ?should I run things directly from the battery, or how should it be
 powered
 ?what kind of charger should I get


 Thanks for your input

 
 Scott Piehn


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] DC Powered sites

[Scott Piehn]

that is exactly what I was looking for, thanks


Scott Piehn

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC Powered sites


 After a lot of QA on the list, this is what I cam up with:

 Batteries: 2ea Lifeline GPL-24MT (these will do ~16hrs with a loaded CMM)
 Charger: Samlex SEC-2415AG
 Low voltage disconnect: NewMar LVD 24-50
 SNMP Monitor: PacketFlux SiteMonitor

 Morningstar makes a charge controller/LVD which allows you to use a 
 standard 24VDC power supply if you want to go that way.

 Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Piehn
 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:26 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] DC Powered sites

 We a looking to setup a couple of our sites to run directly from DC power. 
 AC comes in, convert to DC
 At this point, plan is to have a 24v setup of deep cycle batteries.
 Use a packetflux to monitor the battery voltage level
 Use a digital logger DIN relay for remote reboot.
 Use the PacWireless DC POE injectors for 12 - 48 volt output

 What I am totally not sure on is the charging/power piece.
 The initial site is going to have
 Canopy CMM micro with 1 powered port
 8 Mikotik routerboards,
 switch

 ?should I run things directly from the battery, or how should it be 
 powered
 ?what kind of charger should I get


 Thanks for your input

 
 Scott Piehn


 
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Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?

[Scott Piehn]

you can get rid of the hard drive with a flash IDE form Eje


http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=DOM-128eq=Tp=
No moving parts

Scott Piehn
- Original Message - 
From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?


I posted this to Butch's MT list too. To answer a few questions. It is a 
full P4, not Celeron. I forgot to mention a few things that come to mind. I 
am using it as DNS server and redirecting(via NAT) all DNS activity through 
the MT to use the MT DNS cache. I am not using web proxy. At the moment it 
has a Prizm card for wireless customers(10 total), but I am getting rid of 
that and going to a BulletM2HP. I am needing 1 of the 4 ports for this.

 I would like to keep these below $250. I can buy regular x86 much more 
 powerful than this for less money. The reason for trying to go to 
 routerboards is to have standbys ready to go with minimal configuration 
 after copying configs over and setting them up. The other reason is to get 
 rid of the mechanical component of the hard drive...a mistake I made from 
 the beginning. The last reason is to cover all the separate things that 
 can go wrong in an X86 compared to a routerboard.

 Thanks for all the replies and I am evaluating all of them.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:35:10 -0500

493 only has 128M RAM.  Might want a little more.  RB800 only has 3
ports, but supports the new RB816 for a total of 19 ports and has a
little more horsepower than the 4xxx cards.  RB1000 has 4 ports and more
horsepower, but I don't think it is expandable.

can...@believewireless.net wrote:
 A RB450G should be fine for what you need.  Or use an RB493AH if you
 need more ports.  If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is
 coming out which looks pretty sweet.


 
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[WISPA] Quick Survey for WSIPS

[Scott Piehn]

Yesterday I created a quick 4 question survey about government form 477 that 
all WISPs are supposed to file with subscriber counts.  50 people have filled 
it out so far.  If you haven't yet, it takes 60 seconds or less.  please go to 
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3RZTC9F

The questions are

-Is your customer base increasing/decreasing
-how many subs do you have
-did you file form 477
-would you like help if you didn't

quick results so far are
Customer base  = 46 increasing, 4 decreasing
total customers =65,074 from 49 WISPs = 1,328 subs per WISP
File form 477 = 21 yes, 10 late, 18 no
want help filing = 13 yes, 3 no


Will do more in-depth look tonight


A Quick note.  of the 4 with decreasing customer bases.  3 of them have under 
500 subs.  If it doesn't already exist, I think it would be a great idea to 
have a (guide) for 0 - 500 subs. Things like
Bandwidth - general prices, pros/cons. T1, Cable, DSL, etc
Marketing ideas, assistance, etc
what people use to run the business.
Forms, procedures.

I am not on the board for WISPA, but I think this would be a good value to be 
provided to members.  Of course, some of the recommendations will change for 
larger WISPs.

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Re: [WISPA] 477 Survey

[Scott Piehn]

Results: 62 total filled out survey
Growing - 57 yes, 5 no
Total Subs = 73,126
File = 23 yes, 13 late, 25 no, 1 what
want help = 19 yes, 7 no

Further looking at data
1/2 of those that didn't file, would like help
Decreasing customer base= does not want help
3/5 decreasing customer base did not file
18 non files have under 1000 subs.  10 of which would like help


Scott Piehn

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 477 Survey


 As of 7:25 PM
 38 Total Response
 35 Increasing customers, 3 decreasing
 Customers represented = 46,585
 File Form 477  = 15 yes, 8 yes but late, 14 no, 1 what is it
 Want trainig = 8 yes, 3 no

 
 Scott Piehn


 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:20 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] 477 Survey


 Scott Piehn, has made a very quick 3 question survey on From 477 please
 fill it out.

 http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3RZTC9F


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Re: [WISPA] 477 Survey

[Scott Piehn]

As of 7:25 PM
38 Total Response
35 Increasing customers, 3 decreasing
Customers represented = 46,585
File Form 477  = 15 yes, 8 yes but late, 14 no, 1 what is it
Want trainig = 8 yes, 3 no


Scott Piehn


- Original Message - 
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:20 PM
Subject: [WISPA] 477 Survey


 Scott Piehn, has made a very quick 3 question survey on From 477 please 
 fill it out.

 http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3RZTC9F


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[WISPA] Comcast wholesale

[Scott Piehn]

I think it was mentioned that Comcast may sell wholesale IP service to a wisp.  

any feedback on performance and who to contact


-
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[WISPA] Web Based DNS package

[Scott Piehn]

We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9  I am looking for a web based control 
panel to

manage both at the same time
setup dns management for other domains.  Kind of like reselling web hosting



Any recommendations that people are willing to share


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Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package

[Scott Piehn]

Thanks,

sorry for my ignorance on what is in ubuntu by default

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Computer Dynamics
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V 815.233.2641
F 815.233.6225
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From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package


 Webmin should do it..

 
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 Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:04 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package

 We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9  I am looking for a web based
 control panel to

 manage both at the same time
 setup dns management for other domains.  Kind of like reselling web 
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[WISPA] Packet flux shunt

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I am looking for a shunt to monitor a wind turbine.  that would work with the 
packet flux product

Turbine is 400w at 12 V so I think I should get a 50Amp one. to 100 Millivolt

Can anyone recommend where to buy it


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5

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Any idea if you have antennas on that shipment, the 16-120s in particular


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- Original Message - 
From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5


 Last weeks shipment is all gone of the NSM5's but another container is
 following closely behind hopefully should have it in next week.

 / Eje
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 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:57 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5

 You can check with CTI, I talked to them Monday and they had a few but had
 to buy 4 or 5 to get them.



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 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5

 Anyone have the Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5 in stock?

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[WISPA] tranzeo CPE 200 want to find a home for

[Scott Piehn]

Is there anyone out there interested in working or non-working units


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Re: [WISPA] A Ridiculous Failure of Critical Infrastructure

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How far away from Illinois are you?



-
Scott Piehn

- Original Message - 
From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] A Ridiculous Failure of Critical Infrastructure


 Mediacomm was having some bad equipment problems in Marshalltown or
 Des Moines a couple months ago.  It was on a hand off to Sprint on
 some fiber shelf.  It bit us twice, each on a Sunday, for most of the
 day.  After the second episode, which apparently happened after
 scheduled maintenance, I am convinced the big boys decided to mess
 with a couple little guys.  Sunday outages usually affect residential
 users, which are my bread and butter.

 Unfortunately, I didn't have enough sense to have my upstream
 provider supply me with a map of exactly how the traffic was routed,
 and the outages affected my primary connection AND my backup.  Seems
 both Dynamic Broadband and Mediacomm hand off to Sprint here in this
 part of Iowa.  So, even my back-up as currently configured can be at risk.

 Needless to say, I have a winter project to engineer something going
 to the east from here.

 Matt, I hope they get it figured out for you guys soon.  If you're
 anything like me, all hairs are already gray.

 Mike

 At 01:54 AM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
Some kind of combination of failure between Charter and Qwest has left
tens of thousands of people in Nebraska without Internet and has
disrupted the Internet and phone services for thousands more.Right
now, the outage is going on 12 hours and there is no ETA for repair in
sight.

The word coming down is that the outage is on a Qwest fiber, but it
looks to me like both parties should be on the hot seat for not having
the ability to route around the problem.There was a four hour outage
on Charter a week ago that was caused by a fiber cut in Gothenburg,
Nebraska.
That one killed everything west of the cut, but it was small potatoes
compared to this one.   Is this truly the level of performance that we
can expect from our major Internet backbone providers?   It took me
about 10 seconds to re-route my traffic to a backup provider - you would
think that a couple of multimillion dollar companies would be able to
sort out a problem of this nature in a reasonable amount of time.   The
small CLEC that I use for my backup connection had enough capacity to
route around the problem and was even able to lend me a little bit after
5pm when the traffic on their network (mostly businesses) dropped off.
It isn't rocket science to figure out how to route around an outage.

Almost as frustrating is that there was NO news about the outages
anywhere except on the social networking sites (Facebook, Twitter).
One TV station in Hastings, NE put up a short story on their website,
but I got more news from the tweets and FB posts that people where
posting from their cell phones than I did from anywhere else.   None of
the network outage sites have any news about this.

Could this be a harbinger of things to come?   I am feeling pretty
thankful right now that I have a choice in backbone providers and that I
kept a second one.   Diversity is a good thing, and this is a great
example of why we need competition and multiple options for Internet.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com







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[WISPA] Ubiquiti PTMP Antenna Selection

[Scott Piehn]

Looking for input on which antennas to use
Was mentioned briefly on one of the lists that using a 16-120 instead of a 
19-120 would give better coverage, We have 7 or so 19-120's deployed and they 
just seem to be very particular.  seems about 60 degree wide, and 2 mile out 
sweet spot.  

Looking based on 
covering out to 5 miles max (think that is the current limit of NS5M)
tower is 200 - 250 on a hill.  could be up to 350' above people
or tower (antenna) is 100' above people
360 degree around tower


Apologies if this is the wrong list, can't keep them straight with what is 
allowed on which.

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Re: [WISPA] A Ridiculous Failure of Critical Infrastructure

[Scott Piehn]

We are tapped into fiber about 10 miles from Iowa on Illinois.  Traffic runs 
to Chicago, not across sprint.

Last I knew, Iowa had lots of options, but if they don't pan out, the 
neighbor between us youSQ might have an option

was hoping to offer an option, but 100 miles is probably to far
-
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- Original Message - 
From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] A Ridiculous Failure of Critical Infrastructure


 Scott,

 We are a little over 100 miles west of the Quad Cities, close to hwy
 30, just east of central Iowa.  Your thoughts?

 Mike

 At 08:00 AM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
How far away from Illinois are you?



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- Original Message -
From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] A Ridiculous Failure of Critical Infrastructure


  Mediacomm was having some bad equipment problems in Marshalltown or
  Des Moines a couple months ago.  It was on a hand off to Sprint on
  some fiber shelf.  It bit us twice, each on a Sunday, for most of the
  day.  After the second episode, which apparently happened after
  scheduled maintenance, I am convinced the big boys decided to mess
  with a couple little guys.  Sunday outages usually affect residential
  users, which are my bread and butter.
 
  Unfortunately, I didn't have enough sense to have my upstream
  provider supply me with a map of exactly how the traffic was routed,
  and the outages affected my primary connection AND my backup.  Seems
  both Dynamic Broadband and Mediacomm hand off to Sprint here in this
  part of Iowa.  So, even my back-up as currently configured can be at 
  risk.
 
  Needless to say, I have a winter project to engineer something going
  to the east from here.
 
  Matt, I hope they get it figured out for you guys soon.  If you're
  anything like me, all hairs are already gray.
 
  Mike
 
  At 01:54 AM 12/1/2009, you wrote:
 Some kind of combination of failure between Charter and Qwest has left
 tens of thousands of people in Nebraska without Internet and has
 disrupted the Internet and phone services for thousands more.Right
 now, the outage is going on 12 hours and there is no ETA for repair in
 sight.
 
 The word coming down is that the outage is on a Qwest fiber, but it
 looks to me like both parties should be on the hot seat for not having
 the ability to route around the problem.There was a four hour 
 outage
 on Charter a week ago that was caused by a fiber cut in Gothenburg,
 Nebraska.
 That one killed everything west of the cut, but it was small potatoes
 compared to this one.   Is this truly the level of performance that we
 can expect from our major Internet backbone providers?   It took me
 about 10 seconds to re-route my traffic to a backup provider - you 
 would
 think that a couple of multimillion dollar companies would be able to
 sort out a problem of this nature in a reasonable amount of time.   The
 small CLEC that I use for my backup connection had enough capacity to
 route around the problem and was even able to lend me a little bit 
 after
 5pm when the traffic on their network (mostly businesses) dropped off.
 It isn't rocket science to figure out how to route around an outage.
 
 Almost as frustrating is that there was NO news about the outages
 anywhere except on the social networking sites (Facebook, Twitter).
 One TV station in Hastings, NE put up a short story on their website,
 but I got more news from the tweets and FB posts that people where
 posting from their cell phones than I did from anywhere else.   None of
 the network outage sites have any news about this.
 
 Could this be a harbinger of things to come?   I am feeling pretty
 thankful right now that I have a choice in backbone providers and that 
 I
 kept a second one.   Diversity is a good thing, and this is a great
 example of why we need competition and multiple options for Internet.
 
 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Intermapper probe for Dragonwave?

[Scott Piehn]

If you don't get one already made, I can get you the basics.  Just figured 
out how to make a custom probe for Ubiquiti myself





Scott Piehn

- Original Message - 
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
To: Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org; WISPA General List 
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Intermapper probe for Dragonwave?


 Anyone have a Intermapper probe for DW gear?



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Re: [WISPA] Sectoring a tower

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Kind of embarrassed to ask, but to go 802.11g 10 MHz on MT is just setting 
2.4-10? on the Interface

Using R52H, or do they not support the correct setting?


Scott Piehn
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectoring a tower


 While You are going to Sectors I recommend 802.11g 10Mhz channels.  It has 
 changed my life going away from 20Mhz.

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

 Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience 
 of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, 
 ambition inspired, and success achieved.
 - Helen Keller


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Jason Hensley
 Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:39 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectoring a tower

 Hey Mark.  My experience on the Pac 120* H-Pol sectors is that you will 
 come
 very close to 360* with just two of them.  I would stay away from 180's. 
 I
 think it was the good man Marlin that sent me some info about those a few
 years back when I considered this and I decided on the 120's.  Worked 
 great
 at very close to 360.  You may get some odd lobes and dead space but 
 planned
 accordingly you can probably cover what you need with just two of them.



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 Behalf Of Mark McElvy
 Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:55 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Sectoring a tower

 I have one of my towers that has grown to 32 subs, This is a MT ap and I
 hear that is the magic limit. The only current issue I have with it  CPU
 maxing out at peak times and I am planning a board swap for that. I was
 also thinking of sectoring but do not feel the need for three. Having a
 hard time finding a 180 deg HPOL 2.4Ghz sector. Found one that SuperPass
 sells but the quality does not seem to be there.



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Re: [WISPA] Weekend humor.

[Scott Piehn]

So what is the current info on White space?


Scott Piehn
- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Weekend humor.


 http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdfid_document=7020039616

 I was reading up on current TV Whitespaces filings when I bumped into this
 totally off the wall comment.  It made me smile.
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Re: [WISPA] Direct Lightning Strikes

[Scott Piehn]

We are in Midwest, not a high stick area, so take this for what it's worth.

Electrical.
ISObar 2 outlet sure plugged into outlet
Tripplite DUAL CONVERSION battery plugged into ISObar.  This converts from 
ac to dc, and back to ac.  It cleans the power
digital loggers reboot board for outlet control - not pertinent to 
lightening protection, but useful

Ethernets
All new towers and any retrofits, shielded cable with shielded ends on both 
sides.
all Ethernets bundled into a PVC conduit.  Yes you have to plan ahead for 
any expansion.
Very Important - KEEP THE PVC OFF THE LEG. - attach the pvc to the face.

#2 ground in building attached to halo
Ethernets attached to this ground. - In my opinion if the Ethernet shield 
isn't attached to a ground, it is about worthless
#2 running up tower attaching to all antennas, etc - if problems continue


Scott Piehn
- Original Message - 
From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direct Lightning Strikes


 Whats the majority think the equipment damage from lightning comes 
 from...electric surge or coupling on the Ethernet? Will running on battery 
 or solar lessen your chances of equipment damage that much more that it is 
 worth the cost? I am in the same boat as these guys and have one location 
 hit 5 times in the last two years that caused major damage(talking SMOKED 
 AP's), more than that if you just include power supplies and switches.

 I was thinking of grounding the crap out of this location, but it looks 
 like David did that and it did not help much.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:09:58 -0400

I looked at a Transtector unit a few weeks ago. It's an isolation
transformer that sits outdoors between the entrance panel and our
internal electrical system. It was roughly $1K for the unit. Kind of
wish I would have bought it now. We are the end of the line on the power
grid and have 1-3 days of outages multiple times a year, that's the real
reason for the battery solution; that and we are tired of generators.

Your right though. Most cell and radio towers I visit have just that, an
isolation transformer at the entrance panel.

Thanks, Dave

cc...@dot11net.com wrote:
 Since it sounds like this came in on the AC, how about a surge protector
 on incoming AC line? We've had sites where the power company's grounding
 is so bad we've lost power supply surge protectors in just about every
 storm that comes through the area...until we put surge protection at the
 breaker box. Now all is good.

 Cameron


 Don't feel too left Chuck out we lost a tower site in the same storm.
 Second time in seven years a total loss. Both times we've lost our gear
 it has come via the electrical side. Our tower gets hit by a strike or
 two almost every storm and we never have issues. This time it literaly
 blew the entrance panel off the side of the building and outlets off 
 the
 walls of the building. Cracked one of the APC batterty units, every
 ethernet surge suppressor and every grounded POE injectors were blown
 apart. Interesting that our four coax arrestors were okay, but the gear
 was cooked.  Most of the cat5 ends included.  Had spare gear on the
 tower plugged in at the radios but dangling in the building, we fired 
 it
 up and were in operation within a few minutes.  Took another 16 hours 
 to
 get all of the damage cleaned up.

 We have on that site forty-five 3/4 ground rods in two concentric
 circles around the tower and building none more than eight feet apart;
 all interconnected with #2 bare stranded wire and cad welded. Inside 
 the
 building - a halo ring and 3 1/2 copper strapping, the list goes on 
 and
 on for what we have done to minimize issues. We spent nearly 5K on
 grounding and still lost it all.

 We are moving to total battery power next week. I am looking for
 something I can use to isolate a smart charger from the power company
 when we see storms in the area, I expect we will have enough battery 
 for
 a minimum 3 days runtime. Some type of relay that we can control
 remotely I would guess.

 If it makes you feel any better Verizon Wireless took total loses on
 four towers between Cincinnati and Louisville Tuesday as well.

 Dave Hulsebus
 Portative Technologies, LLC

 Chuck Hogg wrote:

 Has anyone been able to withstand a direct lightning strike? We had a
 tower get hit last night, and some of our equipment lost Ethernet 
 ports
 (RB/433AH), and we lost 3 canopy APs, but that is all (considering 
 what
 is all up there only 2/3rds was blown).  Our Trango AP survived and a
 RB/433AH survived.  Even Nextel had their guys out there, but they 
 just
 had to reset alarms it appears as nothing was fried on their end.  I
 wish I had

[WISPA] Mt and Macintosh virus

[Scott Piehn]

We are seeing something from our Macintosh users only, they are establishing 
200 - 1000 connections in IP/Firewall/Connections.  Connection source is port 
80.  Some go to Google, yahoo, and RIPE Network in Amsterdam, etc.

Had one user run a virus scan, said came up clean
.

anyone else seeing this or know what is going on


Scott Piehn



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Re: [WISPA] Mt and Macintosh virus

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Exelent tip, thanks

Scott

- Original Message - 
From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mt and Macintosh virus


 Have your customer run this in a terminal window (the terminal window is
 found in Applications/Utilities):

 sudo netstat -a

 Have the customer copy and paste EVERYTHING (they will have to scroll
 up)! into an email and send it to you. Take a look and see what apps are
 making these connections.

 ryan

 Scott Piehn wrote:
 We are seeing something from our Macintosh users only, they are 
 establishing 200 - 1000 connections in IP/Firewall/Connections. 
 Connection source is port 80.  Some go to Google, yahoo, and RIPE Network 
 in Amsterdam, etc.

 Had one user run a virus scan, said came up clean
 .

 anyone else seeing this or know what is going on

 
 Scott Piehn


 
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[WISPA] NTIA Meeting

[Scott Piehn]

Is anyone able to watch the video, shows off air for me

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html

Thought it was supposed to start 12 minutes ago



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Re: [WISPA] NTIA Meeting

[Scott Piehn]

nevermind, apparently someone doesn't know how to convert time zones. 
Called the telleconferance and found it starts at 6 PM MST not 5 PM MST

Scott
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:13 PM
Subject: [WISPA] NTIA Meeting


 Is anyone able to watch the video, shows off air for me

 http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html

 Thought it was supposed to start 12 minutes ago


 
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Re: [WISPA] ntia meeting wed night

[Scott Piehn]

this is amazingly worthless.  This is just a big ad for what Reservations 
are doing and how tough things are for them

Scott
- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: legislat...@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:18 PM
Subject: [WISPA] ntia meeting wed night


 Good grief, aren't ANY of them going to actually answer the questions

 What a mess.

 None of them were asked what cool thing they've done with broadband.

 sigh
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Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

[Scott Piehn]

One add to the /22.  You need to be or plan to be running BGP.


Scott
- Original Message - 
From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN


 If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if
 you are not, then you will need to justify a /20  ( 16 class C's)

 John


 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 We probably need to get our own ip addys now.  We're using 4 class c's 
 and
 will need more pretty soon in one location.

 Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process?

 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

[Scott Piehn]

agreed

When we had specific questions, we called ARIN.  Got someone right away that 
new what they were talking about

Easier than Form 477 for us

Scott


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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN



 You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its
 easy.

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102

  Original Message 
 From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

 We probably need to get our own ip addys now.  We're using 4 class c's
 and
 will need more pretty soon in one location.

 Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process?

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Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

[Scott Piehn]

http://www.usac.org/sl/providers/step01/

Scott Piehn
We are in Illinois also, would be willing to help if you have problems


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process


 Now that I'm a WISPA member, where can I find more information on this?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:27 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 There was an excellent discussion of the E-Rate process at the ISP-CEO
 meeting in San Jose (at ISPCON) and a lot of follow up information on the
 Wispa Members list.  Yet another reason to join!  :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of David Wilson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 Ladies and Gentlemen:  Could someone provide an explanation of the E-Rate
 process?

 Specifically, I would like to understand the application process (front
 end) and then the spending (back end) terms and conditions.

 Thanks in advance for the effort.

 All the best,

 Dave Wilson
 Western Regional Sales Manager
 Colubris Networks
 778 Dorothea Avenue
 San Marcos, CA 92069
 USA

 Work: (760) 481-7485
 Mobile: (760) 574-1749
 Fax: (716) 809-2637
 Email: david_wil...@cox.net
 IM: wireless_dwilson (Skype)



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

[Scott Piehn]

from the site I gave you

SPIN # for you means a school can file e-rate to get money from the erate 
people (think is the state)

wasn't hard, just took a little time, file this form, wait a month, file 
that form, every year, file a form.  etc.  not hard.  Forms are only 1 or 2 
pages.  not hard or time consuming, just something more to do.  We don't 
file erate for the schools.  There is definitely a market for that.  If you 
come across a school/library in Illinois that isn't filing for erate, you 
can make some money off filing the paperwork for the school.  That gets 
allot harder and time consuming.  Many schools use someone just for their 
erate filing

For schools and libraries.  erate/SPIN is all I am aware of

Getting clients.  Hasn't been helpful in GETTING clients.  required to keep 
current clients.  We also don't heavily market, so proactive sales may have 
a different point of view.

Savings depends on how poor the town is.  School/Library reimbursement is 
based on school lunch program in the town
reimbursement is based on how many kids in the school eat free/reduced 
lunch.  around 50% of kids eat free/reduced =  State pays 75% of 
communications bills. (or whatever else they get qualified for)

Scott



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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process


 Indeed.

 I'm going through that stuff, but how everyone was making it sound before,
 it was a big PITA to setup and use.

 Was it really that difficult?

 Does the state have something similar?  I think I heard some do.

 How useful has it been in getting clients?  How much does it really save
 them?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 http://www.usac.org/sl/providers/step01/

 Scott Piehn
 We are in Illinois also, would be willing to help if you have problems


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process


 Now that I'm a WISPA member, where can I find more information on this?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:27 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 There was an excellent discussion of the E-Rate process at the ISP-CEO
 meeting in San Jose (at ISPCON) and a lot of follow up information on
 the
 Wispa Members list.  Yet another reason to join!  :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of David Wilson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 Ladies and Gentlemen:  Could someone provide an explanation of the
 E-Rate
 process?

 Specifically, I would like to understand the application process (front
 end) and then the spending (back end) terms and conditions.

 Thanks in advance for the effort.

 All the best,

 Dave Wilson
 Western Regional Sales Manager
 Colubris Networks
 778 Dorothea Avenue
 San Marcos, CA 92069
 USA

 Work: (760) 481-7485
 Mobile: (760) 574-1749
 Fax: (716) 809-2637
 Email: david_wil...@cox.net
 IM: wireless_dwilson (Skype)



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young

[Scott Piehn]

We strap the conduit to the tower, junction boxes only where needed to drop 
cable out for equipment.  Normally just at the top
To handle the weight of the cable on itself, we bundle the cable on the 
ground with 1 or 2 separate pull strings that are wound around the cable and 
taped every 5 feet.  At the top, we attach the pull string to the top of the 
conduit (inside the jboxes).  Cable weight just pulls down on the conduit.

Using conduit brings up an important issue.  assume you will not be able to 
add another line for something you need a couple of years down the road. 
Make sure you put in extra cable for any future stuff you might add.

On one tower where the conduit was much larger than the cable bundle, we 
shot expand-a-fome in the top 40' - 70' of conduit just in case the pull 
string broke

Inside the conduit we use shielded cable with shielded ends, do not run the 
conduit down the leg of the tower,  run down a face.  If you must run down a 
leg, get the conduit spaced away from the leg.  Since we started 
retrofitting towers with this, we take ALLOT less damage.



Scott

- Original Message - 
From: Wisp w...@eccentrixtechnologies.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are 
for the young


 For cat5 runs is the weight of the cable not hard in it if it is just
 hanging in the conduit?  Du you put junction boxes every x feet to
 strap down?

 Cliff Olle

 President
 Eccentrix Technologies, LLC
 (512) 426-4929
 cl...@eccentrixtechnologies.com

 On Mar 6, 2009, at 1:39 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:

 several sections of that stuff gets heavy. I pushed 100' up the inside
 of a tower once. We used it for the power cable coming down from a
 windmill. Dropped a weight on a fishing line for the pull string pull.

 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:26:21PM -0500, RickG wrote:
 I stacked 15 - 20' sections of the grey pvc up to the 300' level
 where our
 equipment was located. What a job that was! -RickG

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Joe Miller
 joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote:


 Here is an idea for the tower sitesRun your cat5 in electrical
 conduit,
 the gray PVC type. That way the cat5 will be protected from the
 weather.
 I've done this and I haven't had to replace cat5 on the towers on
 over 3
 years now.


 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:

 From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs
 yourself,they
 are for the young
 To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com
 Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:06 AM
 I have had a few customers look at us crosswise.  A couple
 have even asked for wall plates, or had us install ethernet
 jacks.  We'll do this if asked, but I don't carry
 the parts with me.

 I also try REALLY hard to NOT put any ethernet wall plates
 in.  I don't want the extra connection in a poe
 situation.  It's probably fine, but as an ex lineman I
 know that connections are almost always the reason for a
 failure so I want the fewest possible.

 We try to hide all cable as much as possible, we ask for a
 vacuum to clean up any drillings, we do NOT leave the little
 ends from the cat5 crimps laying around - not even outside.

 Hell, until recently we always ran indoor WHITE cat 5
 cable.  People REALLY liked that, I have just gotten tired
 of cables with water in them.  Luckily it seems to almost
 exclusively happen at my towers not at the customer's
 sites.  It's usually cheap and easy to replace the bad
 cable and ruined poe. But I hate service calls!

 Sure wish I could find a double insulated white cable to
 use instead of this black stuff we're using now.

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message - From: Joe Miller
 joe.mil...@dslbyair.com
 To: Marlon K. Schafer
 o...@odessaoffice.com
 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs
 yourself,they are for the young



 I just had to ask..very interesting.


 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer
 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:

 From: Marlon K. Schafer
 o...@odessaoffice.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing
 installs yourself,they are for the young
 To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com, WISPA General
 List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:51 AM
 Not at all.  We hide the holes behind a desk or
 something
 when ever
 possible.  You'll never notice them.  Unlike a
 big,
 ugly wall plate.

 marlon

 - Original Message - From: Joe
 Miller joemiller...@yahoo.com
 To: WISPA General List
 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing
 installs
 yourself,they are
 for the young



 Marlon,

 You are joking..right?


 --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer
 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:

 From: Marlon K. Schafer
 o...@odessaoffice.com
 Subject: Re: 

Re: [WISPA] grant funds ideas

[Scott Piehn]

The Government has a definition for rural  My town of 26K people just got 
classified as rural a couple of years ago.  This was to help with grants and 
such

Rural is generally based on population of under 20k - 30k


Scott


- Original Message - 
From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] grant funds ideas


 The ARRA specifically states rural wireless, I would think the telcos 
 are
 going to have problems with that, or maybe I am wrong.

 A local telco announced yesterday that they are going after stimulus 
 monies
 and hired a DC law firm to keep track of what is going on.

 If telcos try to expand DSL, the cost is going to be huge, same as with
 cable companies.

 I think one of the things that should be defined is rural wireless and 
 the
 rules to play in that field.
 For instance if a telco comes up with a proposal for an area that we are
 considering for wireless, the powers that be should consider the costs.

 Thanks,
 Victoria Proffer
 CEO
 StLouisBroadband.com
 MissouriRuralWireless.com
 314.974.5600
 SBA Certified WOSB

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: legislat...@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] grant funds ideas

 Hi All,

 I've asked before but saw no discussion so here it is again

 If WISPA gets a chance to give input to the grant process, what should we
 tell the government?

 I can't believe that NO ONE here has any input on this at all.  Did my 
 last
 post fail to make it through?  Or should we not give any input into the
 process if given the chance?  We'll just let the telco's get all of it 
 then?

 marlon



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] what to ask for at NTIA and RUS

[Scott Piehn]

If these ideas have already been presented, my apologies'.  I have been 
following the stimulus topic as much as possible.  Following are specific 
topics in the stimulus package that could help us

Definition of unserved/underserved.  Last I knew, RUS awarded based on zip 
code only.  With the addition of underserved, we quality.  Would there be a 
benefit to doing something like.  zip code x has y land mass and z people. 
Existing DSL/cable serves (town population).  we are the only provider 
trying to cover anyone outside of town.

Form 477 filers, initially I agree.  prevents startups, should help insure 
the money actually gets used for it's intended purpose.  should there be an 
exception for non-filers that can prove business solvency another way. 
possibly by financials or something.

Fund things that couldn't otherwise happen.  This points to startups, but 
there is no guarantee the financials presented by a startup are based on 
anything that will actually happen.
If a WISP is solvent, why can't they do on their own (over time) what 
they are asking grant money for (not my opinion, might be governments 
option).  I have been wondering how to present this item in a proposal.

Goal of stimulus grants.  Is it to make more high-speed available or improve 
existing high speed.

Get rid of the community center, or provide a mechanism to show existing 
resources are adequate for training (local community college or teen center, 
etc)

I agree with allow funding of in-house labor (for construction).  We can't 
go to the local union hall and ask for two guys that can set-up a wireless 
broadcast for us. by not doing it, aren't they encouraging a company to 
setup a shell company that they pay for construction.  by having a shell 
company I would think that opens the door to fraud.  Justification could be. 
once the construction is done, the new staff will be transitioned to support 
customers that come on because of the improvements.  just less overtime.

Scott Piehn




- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: legislat...@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: [WISPA] what to ask for at NTIA and RUS


 OK, I've been putting some thought into this bailout mess we find 
 ourselves
 in.

 The agencies have almost no time to design a program, take applications,
 distribute money and audit the results.

 I'll be surprised if they aren't forced to accept a basic outline of a 
 plan
 drawn on a Denny's napkin.

 What will the easiest and safest way to go as a government employee?  Just
 shoot most of the money out to the people that you already know.  Even
 though you've already sent 6 billion out the door to that same group (BTW,
 we should use that number as a big reason why they should radically change
 their models).  No one will get in trouble for sticking with what's known,
 and there's not nearly enough time to study the issue, accept public input
 etc. etc. etc.

 I don't know if we'll ever get the chance to give our input to the 
 agencies
 involved.  (I know WISPA and many of us individually will sure be working 
 on
 that though!!!)  But if we do, what should we push for?  The more of us 
 push
 in the same direction the more we'll be able to move the agencies out of
 their historic ruts.

 Some of the things that I think would help a company like mine deal with 
 the
 grants.  Heck, even want the grants.  (The last time I even considered one
 was in 2001, too many strings.)

No strings attached.  Accept the plan laid out, look at the goals of 
 the
 plan and approve or disapprove based on that.  (We need more and better
 broadband out here, but we do NOT need computer centers!)

Allow basic plans.  There isn't time for us to figure this out down to
 the last nut and bolt either.  I have a plan to build new towers in many
 locations.  Some will be near existing buildings that are used for towers
 now, others will have to be in totally new locations.  It'll take time to
 buy/lease ground.  I might have to move my locations by great distances.

Allow labor to be paid.  If I can grow/update my network I'll need to
 hire some help.  I won't be able to do enough new installs or upgrades to
 get it all done quickly.

Fund small businesses at 100%.  If I had the ability to get more money
 (for matching funds) I'd have already used it to deploy more coverage to
 more users.

Allow funding to purchase the tools needed to expand.  If I get another
 installation crew running I'll need a rig for them.  They'll need some
 training etc.

Allow the specifics of a deployment to change if need be.  As long as
 the original goal is still being met.

Money will need to be sent out in advance.  Lets say that a company 
 gets
 a $1m grant.  They need $100k to $200k in the bank at all times.  This 
 will
 allow is to get cash with order deals, adjust for changing opportunities
 etc

Re: [WISPA] NTIA Meetings on Economic Stimulus Package

[Scott Piehn]

In reading the info, is it to 

determine guidelines for who get the grants
or
make a presentation to get the grant

Scott
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Suitor 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:31 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] NTIA Meetings on Economic Stimulus Package


  Folks,



  Thought you would all like heads up on the attached.  The attached notice is 
scheduled to be published by NTIA in the Federal Register tomorrow, alerting 
those interested in the ARRA grant program that they can commence scheduling 
meetings with NTIA staff to be held starting on March 2, 2009. 



  Best Regards,

  Kevin









Redline Communications Inc.

 Kevin Suitor

Vice President, Marketing  Business Development
302 Town Centre Blvd.
Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA
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Phone:  +1 905.948.2299
Skype:   ksuitor
Fax:  +1 647.723.0451
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