Re: [WISPA] signal too hot!
Buy cheap fiber media converters and some fiber if they are that close. -Cameron I know, we just discussed this topic a few weeks ago. I've got a new customer who is right next to a grain silo and the issue is that it drops their connection with XBox. I'm not getting complaints from anyone else. The CPE is a NS2Loco and the signal is -29! I've already have it aimed up at the sky. So, I set it for H-Pol (Silo has V-Pol omni). Signal now -53 and it seems to have helped a lot. I'm just concerned. Whats the downside? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 question
Do a spectrum scan on the RU side of things and see if it is clear. You may have some new interference. Easy enough to check. -Cameron I thought about that, but: That is a lot of downtime for my primary backhaul link That requires 2 climbers, etc. I would like to find some other options before going this route. Cliff LeBoeuf wrote: Swap the radios with each other to see if the problem follows the radio or stays at the location. On 11/27/09 5:22 AM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: I have a 2.2 mile link with clear LOS using TrangoLink45 radios. One direction (MU to RU) maintains a steady 54mbps air rate all the time. The other direction (RU to MU) will work at 54mbps for a while, but always slowly (over about 3-5 minutes) drops to 12mbps. I have tried some other channels and polarities to no success. Does anyone know how to get a log from these units that might show why the link slows down? Any thing I should be checking other than the frequency and polarity? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.83/2529 - Release Date: 11/26/09 19:42:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DHCP options
PPPoE we have found to be very difficult working with different routers that customer bring to the table to connect up. We use MT with radius before with PPPoE and some work and then some wouldn't. It was just a pain. We are looking to provide Public IP via DHCP, the options is does MT does this Option 82 -Cameron On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 16:37 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: We want Customer to plug in device and get a DHCP address, easy right. Okay hard part, without the use of Mac addresses how can we tell which customers are what and log this into a database. Is there a way to control this via the radio? Without being familiar with Alvarion gear, I'd guess this will be tough. Are you wanting to provide public or private IP space via dhcp? If it's private, you could always build a vlan from your core router out to each subscriber. I am fairly certain that is something that Alvarion does. This would be the only idea I have. We don't want to use PPPoE so that option is out, we currently provide Static IP numbers for everybody but would like to get away from this in certain (cheaper) markets. Not sure why PPPoE is out. It would be the best option if you don't want to collect MAC addresses. Come on guys, hit me with your best ideas on this one. Were at a wall. Why would you NOT be willing to collect MAC addresses? It is not that difficult to do, unless you're looking at some type of hotspot where you won't know the customers who are connecting. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DHCP options
You guys are starting to develop this...I'm listening This option 82 sounds interested. Google here I come. -Cameron I've never seen that. Is it the switch that gathers the info or what? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DHCP options This has DHCP option 82 written all over it. It's very popular in a DOCSIS environment. I assume the Alvarion equipment doesn't support option 82. If this is the case you could do it via an option 82 capable switch. The switch could tell you what port, MAC, IP, etc. Good luck. -Eric Cameron Kilton wrote: We are looking into a DHCP delivery method that doesn't require the use of Mac Addresses to enter. We are using all Alvarion VL equipment (5.x 900) the problem is: We want Customer to plug in device and get a DHCP address, easy right. Okay hard part, without the use of Mac addresses how can we tell which customers are what and log this into a database. Is there a way to control this via the radio? We don't want to use PPPoE so that option is out, we currently provide Static IP numbers for everybody but would like to get away from this in certain (cheaper) markets. Come on guys, hit me with your best ideas on this one. Were at a wall. Thank You, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
They have upgraded one of my older units as well. I have two more of the older units left, thankfully they are in the air and in low noise areas, I hope to have them upgraded soon just because. -Cameron You shouldn't have to worry too much about the old product because I think they did a 100% field upgrade at no cost to owners of those AUs, right? You should still check, but I would hope it'd be unusual to find an upgraded unit for sale. Chuck On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:30 AM, Nick Huanca wrote: Hi Jon, We've had extensive experience with the VL900 product line, even through its rough release to market. After Alvarion fixed their hardware and software bugs I could recommend this product hands down based on our experience. Beware of used equipment that may not operate *at all* in minimal noise. There was a revision to the hardware on the AUs to remedy this. Thanks, --Nick Huanca On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: I have no experience with the Waverider equipment, but Alvarion's pretty darn good (and we do have experience with that). Chuck On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Nick Huanca WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz PTP
20mhz channel using dual pol antennas. I'm trying to use an off the shelf system if you will. I like the Solectek unit, but it does not have adaptive modulation so for the 13 Mile shot that I have across Ocean where I can see as much as a 20db drop even with 32db dish antennas. I want to replace a Trango Link-45 unit with some type of OFDM/MIMO high throughput system. Also something like this in 5.4ghz w/DFS2 could be a nice present from the manufactures. -Cameron 20 mhz channels? Single or dual antenna / polarities? Randy Dennis Burgess wrote: Have a 3 mile shot right now doing 55 TCP :) R52Ns. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz PTP * Josh Luthman wrote, On 9/1/2009 6:31 PM: 30 megs with a 20 mhz channel is what Travis and I always see in 5ghz. Xr5 and r52(h) myself. we had almost a 30 mile path using I believe SR5s and I think it was 10 mHz channels and I think we topped it at 15m but throttled it back to cap @ 10m (mostly that link was for residential and a few biz). leon On 9/1/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Mikrotik with R52N cards and say a RB411AH I see almost that much throughput with the regular rb411 boards but the cpu i believe is the bottleneck but its close. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:38 PM To: wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 5.8ghz PTP Anybody know of any equipment for under 5K that can deliver 100Mbit (ish) with Dual Polarity with Adaptive Modulation? (Anything that is not Ubiquiti for now.) Also anybody know when the Rocket M will be shipping? Thank You, Cameron Kilton WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
I'll go with this, Tom has made very valid points. -Cameron I second what Tom says. We need another affordable 24GHz solution. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: Well, I'll add a couple comments, before the group chimes in I agree, that in MORE cases, people will chose 23Ghz licensed over 24Ghz. But that does not negate the 24Ghz model potential. For 24Ghz, 2ft Dish configurations are going to be MUCH more effective. And as well, Lower modulations/speeds will likely occur per link, in order to reach further distances. But doing 1.5 miles at 99.999% is doable with 24Ghz at 100mbps, with multiple channels to choose from. (mine was 1.7 miles long). I'd argue that 24Ghz has more channel selections than 2.4Ghz, 900Mhz, and much larger ability for spectrum reuse. 24Ghz is an ideal choice for getting a LARGE number of PTP links into a small area. This is the fact WISPS are running out of Last Mile spectrum. The demand for higher speeds has come fast. WISPs need to start migrating profitable high capacity customers OFF of their 5.8Ghz PtMP sectors, so the capacity is available for their lower capacity higher volume target subscriber base. For many, there is no longer an option to add 5.8G APs, growth instead is acheived by moving large cpacity customers to new High capacity technologies, which today is only possible w/ PTP. The first thing to understand is There is absolutely a market and demand for increasing capacity to customers within a 1.5 mile radius. ANY provider in a URBAN or SUBURBAN market will have this demand. For example, in DC its only like 3 miles side to side, and narrow beamwidth links are needed. 60-80Ghz promised a solution, but never delivered. Low cost links are limited to .5 miles, and EXPENSIVE (3X cost of Horizon) gear can extend up to 2 miles. The second thing to understand is... Why would we choose 24Ghz over 23Ghz?. The questions to ask are... and answers following 1) Do we need licensed protection, in all cases? And the answer is No, we have 200 tenant buildings served with Unlicenced 5.x today. 2) Will WISPs pay $10K for an Unlicensed solution, for a unique solution if they need to? The answer is yes. People have been paying $10k for Redline and Orthogon PTPs for years. 3) Will WISPs do everything possible to save a dollar? The answer is yes, we have been trained to do that since birth :-) 4) Is $3000 License Costs a signficant amount to save for a WISP? Absolutely, yes. $3000 would buy 1-2 Trango TLink45s, dependant on Promos. Remember most WISPs are still funded through cash flow. $3000 is a small fortune. This comment is with the premise that 24Ghz product would be sold for equal or less money than its 23Ghz licensed counterpart. Trango nor WISPs have any benefit to giving our hard earned money to the FCC and licensing consultants. Take note that based on current Trango prices, a $3000 savings is like a 25% savings of the total link. Many buyers have chosen Trango over their previous vendor Dragonwave for as little as a 10% savings. What would a WISP do to save 25%? 5) Note... Grant money will usually buy equipment not licenses.. Leasing companies will approve leases for Equipment, and rarely for licenses taht can't be reposessed. A WISP could buy more radios with grant/lease money, if they were not limited by cash flow constraints to buy licenses. 6) Are there any reasons 24Ghz might be favored over 23Ghz? Answer yes. The very nature of WISPs are to deploy fast. Licensing takes advanced planning and often adds 2 months to the process. I will say that 50% of the sales our company made to date were because we could get a link to the customer Sooner. We didn't need to plan, we just executed action. It is a convenience factor. 24Ghz offers A) The ability to STOCK inventory on hand, without knowing in advance where it will be used. B) The ability to immediately place orders, without waiting for Freq Coords. C) 23Ghz does not allow temporary install after Freq Coord and application stage, and are not legally allowed to be deployed until after the license is actually granted, and I beleive has an additional step (by FCC to determine channel availabilty) beyond the initial end user ordered Freq coord, before the FCC can grant the license. D) The ability to immediately go install. ONLY thing needing done before installing, is a quick 5 minute path calc, with large odds success will be reached. 7) Does 24Ghz scale? Answer is yes. 24Ghz will scale significantly higher than 23Ghz. Because 24Ghz is lower tx power (about 20 db lower), it will allow a much larger number of radios to be installed within a given region without interference. A 23Ghz licenses is not guaranteed to be available. Its important to note that 23Ghz licenses requires that licensees are guaranteed a large minimum
Re: [WISPA] outdoor CAT5
We have had similar issues but we had about a dozen of them break and still counting. The asked me if we would prefer wooden spool within the box. I told them yes. Something a bit stronger. I don't know about other ISP's, but I know I've been caught in a quick summer rain storm and a heavy snow fall and the boxes get wet. I need to have something a bit more reliable in the future. Other than the current spool/box setup. I've had no complaints about Shireen cable. -Cam I spoke with Shireen (Soe Zarni) about the issue we have been having with the poor quality of their reel boxes. Soe told me that they had a shipment that had been unloaded during a heavy rain and that many of their boxes of cable got wet. Soe felt that this is was the cause of my recent problems with their cable boxes falling apart and wanted an opportunity to send me a good box of cable for me to test out. We found no problems with the last box of cable we ordered from them and am very pleased that this issue appears to simply be due to water damage. We do hope that they recognize this as a potential problem in the future and make changes accordingly, but with their excellent service we have no reason to believe otherwise and will continue purchasing Cat5 cable from them. It's also worth noting that Soe offered us credits/discounts for the trouble. We appreciate Shireen's ongoing excellence in customer service and look forward to doing business with them in the future. It was very clear to me that Shireen was/is serious about their customer's satisfaction. Thank You, Soe!! Chad Halsted Wireless Operations Manager The Computer Works Conway, AR 72032 On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll check into Belden, thanks. Yeah, I think I'm done with Shireen until they figure out a better design. I'd rather have a simple spool than fight with that crap for one more minute. On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Cameron Kilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belden makes good cable too. About $225 for 1000 feet. Yes the Shireen spool boxes are horrible! We are not going to order anymore until they fix this. Cameron Midcoast Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Halsted Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor CAT5 For those using Shireen cable, do you guys not have problems with the poor quality of their reel/box container? We have had almost every box come apart on us before we get 200' of cable pulled off the reel. The wire is too loosely wrapped which causes the wire to sink down into the lower wraps. It's just been a mess. We pay $175.00 for the Shireen cable and up until lately we had been pleased with it, but now the boxes are so poorly designed we just spend way to much time in the field fighting with it. For those not using Shireen, where do you get a shielded outdoor cable? We haven't had very good success using a non-shielded cable due to all the lightning (inductance) surges. So, we have to use shielded, but not much luck finding a Vendor other than Shireen that carries it for a fair price. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try -www.cablesforless.com-Good Prices and Q WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments.
We are installing a new tower very soon (in the next couple weeks) that will be run completely off Wind power with a 400-watt wind turbine. Of course we will have 6 105 amp hour batteries. Our draw at one of our popular sites is under 375 watts. This using a PC-Based MikroTik/ HP Procurve 2524, 6 Alvarion B NET Backhauls, 2 Alvarion VL-AU's, 1 Trango 900 Sector. We switched some hardware in the MikroTik routers mostly the newer low powered AMD cpu's and that made a hugh difference and going from the HP procurve 2424m to a 2524 which cut the wattage from 90 watts to about 25 watts. The Alvarion Units use about 200 watts total and the trango is like 13 watts or so, (been a while since I checked them). The mikrotik router is uing 60-75 watts. All in all, not to shabby as far as power consumption. -Cameron I wanted to get input from the WISPA list about a complete design for a off grid base station design base on a dual and quad radio system. We have been looking into this and have come up with a design using both wind and solar power that will keep a unit up and running 24/7/365. The idea is to have a complete package design so the base stations can be installed anywhere, but in order to keep the costs low it would be base on a max 48Watt design. Questions: 1. Is this something WISP would want in the USA, and would find useful? 2. Would you like this in a single package or parts (where a package would have a 1 year warrantee and parts would not) 3. What are you finding the power needs are at a typical WPOP? 4. Other Comments? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments.
This will be our first wind site. We will get some pretty wind at the location. However we have been using Solar on sites since 2000 on a couple Island Off shore up here in Maine. -Cameron I have had nothing but heartbreak with wind. Solar always works well. Wind, no joy for me... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments. We are installing a new tower very soon (in the next couple weeks) that will be run completely off Wind power with a 400-watt wind turbine. Of course we will have 6 105 amp hour batteries. Our draw at one of our popular sites is under 375 watts. This using a PC-Based MikroTik/ HP Procurve 2524, 6 Alvarion B NET Backhauls, 2 Alvarion VL-AU's, 1 Trango 900 Sector. We switched some hardware in the MikroTik routers mostly the newer low powered AMD cpu's and that made a hugh difference and going from the HP procurve 2424m to a 2524 which cut the wattage from 90 watts to about 25 watts. The Alvarion Units use about 200 watts total and the trango is like 13 watts or so, (been a while since I checked them). The mikrotik router is uing 60-75 watts. All in all, not to shabby as far as power consumption. -Cameron I wanted to get input from the WISPA list about a complete design for a off grid base station design base on a dual and quad radio system. We have been looking into this and have come up with a design using both wind and solar power that will keep a unit up and running 24/7/365. The idea is to have a complete package design so the base stations can be installed anywhere, but in order to keep the costs low it would be base on a max 48Watt design. Questions: 1. Is this something WISP would want in the USA, and would find useful? 2. Would you like this in a single package or parts (where a package would have a 1 year warrantee and parts would not) 3. What are you finding the power needs are at a typical WPOP? 4. Other Comments? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments.
We may through a solar panel or two at site if we have wind troubles, but this site will be using sub 100 watts. -Cameron double or triple your batteries... JohnnyO - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments. This will be our first wind site. We will get some pretty wind at the location. However we have been using Solar on sites since 2000 on a couple Island Off shore up here in Maine. -Cameron I have had nothing but heartbreak with wind. Solar always works well. Wind, no joy for me... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments. We are installing a new tower very soon (in the next couple weeks) that will be run completely off Wind power with a 400-watt wind turbine. Of course we will have 6 105 amp hour batteries. Our draw at one of our popular sites is under 375 watts. This using a PC-Based MikroTik/ HP Procurve 2524, 6 Alvarion B NET Backhauls, 2 Alvarion VL-AU's, 1 Trango 900 Sector. We switched some hardware in the MikroTik routers mostly the newer low powered AMD cpu's and that made a hugh difference and going from the HP procurve 2424m to a 2524 which cut the wattage from 90 watts to about 25 watts. The Alvarion Units use about 200 watts total and the trango is like 13 watts or so, (been a while since I checked them). The mikrotik router is uing 60-75 watts. All in all, not to shabby as far as power consumption. -Cameron I wanted to get input from the WISPA list about a complete design for a off grid base station design base on a dual and quad radio system. We have been looking into this and have come up with a design using both wind and solar power that will keep a unit up and running 24/7/365. The idea is to have a complete package design so the base stations can be installed anywhere, but in order to keep the costs low it would be base on a max 48Watt design. Questions: 1. Is this something WISP would want in the USA, and would find useful? 2. Would you like this in a single package or parts (where a package would have a 1 year warrantee and parts would not) 3. What are you finding the power needs are at a typical WPOP? 4. Other Comments? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments.
Sounds like this project could get interesting, I'll have more details to follow. I'll have some pictures of the two tower installs soon. -Cameron !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 I agree. Wind turbines really only produce about 50% of what they claim (even at full wind speed). You will need 4 or 6 of that size wind turbine to keep things running.br br We had a site that was on a 9500ft mountaintop that showed a 15mph wind average (over the entire year). We put up two 400 watt turbines and had 10 or 12 batteries (100ah). We onlynbsp; had 5 radios total (trango) and a small 5 port 12v switch. The site would stay up for about 3-4 days before we had to go start the generator. I think our total draw was under 80 watts for everything.br br You need to take a look at the Bergey wind turbines. They are expensive, but they work really well. However, you can NOT mount them on the top of a Rohn type tower... their mounting pipe has to be exact, and if it's off by even 1/8, the whole thing will eventually vibrate itself apart. Spend the extra $500 and buy their recommended mounting tower system.br br Travisbr Microservbr br JohnnyO wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Cameron - unless you have CONSTANT wind, you are going to be seriously underpowered. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: a class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/a To: WISPA General List a class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href=mailto:wireless@wispa.org;lt;wireless@wispa.orggt;/a Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments. /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=We are installing a new tower very soon (in the next couple weeks) that will be run completely off Wind power with a 400-watt wind turbine. Of course we will have 6 105 amp hour batteries. Our draw at one of our popular sites is under 375 watts. This using a PC-Based MikroTik/ HP Procurve 2524, 6 Alvarion B NET Backhauls, 2 Alvarion VL-AU's, 1 Trango 900 Sector. We switched some hardware in the MikroTik routers mostly the newer low powered AMD cpu's and that made a hugh difference and going from the HP procurve 2424m to a 2524 which cut the wattage from 90 watts to about 25 watts. The Alvarion Units use about 200 watts total and the trango is like 13 watts or so, (been a while since I checked them). The mikrotik router is uing 60-75 watts. All in all, not to shabby as far as power consumption. -Cameron /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=I wanted to get input from the WISPA list about a complete design for a off grid base station design base on a dual and quad radio system. We have been looking into this and have come up with a design using both wind and solar power that will keep a unit up and running 24/7/365. The idea is to have a complete package design so the base stations can be installed anywhere, but in order to keep the costs low it would be base on a max 48Watt design. Questions: 1. Is this something WISP would want in the USA, and would find useful? 2. Would you like this in a single package or parts (where a package would have a 1 year warrantee and parts would not) 3. What are you finding the power needs are at a typical WPOP? 4. Other Comments? WISPA Wants You! Join today! a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=http://signup.wispa.org/;http://signup.wispa.org//a WISPA Wireless List: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:wireless@wispa.org;wireless@wispa.org/a Subscribe/Unsubscribe: a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless;http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless/a Archives: a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/;http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless//a /pre /blockquote pre wrap= WISPA Wants You! Join today! a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=http://signup.wispa.org/;http://signup.wispa.org//a WISPA Wireless List: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:wireless@wispa.org;wireless@wispa.org/a Subscribe/Unsubscribe: a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless;http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless/a Archives: a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/;http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless//a /pre /blockquote pre wrap=!
Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments.
This sounds like my first reaction when my boss told me we were going wind powerd (crazy). So, guessing from the orignal poster of the thread, many advise to go SOLAR!! Which I prefer anyhow. -Cameron Travis - the startup speed of these Air-X generators is around 10mph... that doesn't mean it starts generating power at 10mph - it just means it starts turning. They did just release some consumer 1000watt wind generators that have a start-up speed around 7mph - they are much more efficient and their power curve is a LOT higher at lower RPMs. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments. I agree. Wind turbines really only produce about 50% of what they claim (even at full wind speed). You will need 4 or 6 of that size wind turbine to keep things running. We had a site that was on a 9500ft mountaintop that showed a 15mph wind average (over the entire year). We put up two 400 watt turbines and had 10 or 12 batteries (100ah). We only had 5 radios total (trango) and a small 5 port 12v switch. The site would stay up for about 3-4 days before we had to go start the generator. I think our total draw was under 80 watts for everything. You need to take a look at the Bergey wind turbines. They are expensive, but they work really well. However, you can NOT mount them on the top of a Rohn type tower... their mounting pipe has to be exact, and if it's off by even 1/8, the whole thing will eventually vibrate itself apart. Spend the extra $500 and buy their recommended mounting tower system. Travis Microserv JohnnyO wrote: Cameron - unless you have CONSTANT wind, you are going to be seriously underpowered. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments. We are installing a new tower very soon (in the next couple weeks) that will be run completely off Wind power with a 400-watt wind turbine. Of course we will have 6 105 amp hour batteries. Our draw at one of our popular sites is under 375 watts. This using a PC-Based MikroTik/ HP Procurve 2524, 6 Alvarion B NET Backhauls, 2 Alvarion VL-AU's, 1 Trango 900 Sector. We switched some hardware in the MikroTik routers mostly the newer low powered AMD cpu's and that made a hugh difference and going from the HP procurve 2424m to a 2524 which cut the wattage from 90 watts to about 25 watts. The Alvarion Units use about 200 watts total and the trango is like 13 watts or so, (been a while since I checked them). The mikrotik router is uing 60-75 watts. All in all, not to shabby as far as power consumption. -Cameron I wanted to get input from the WISPA list about a complete design for a off grid base station design base on a dual and quad radio system. We have been looking into this and have come up with a design using both wind and solar power that will keep a unit up and running 24/7/365. The idea is to have a complete package design so the base stations can be installed anywhere, but in order to keep the costs low it would be base on a max 48Watt design. Questions: 1. Is this something WISP would want in the USA, and would find useful? 2. Would you like this in a single package or parts (where a package would have a 1 year warrantee and parts would not) 3. What are you finding the power needs are at a typical WPOP? 4. Other Comments? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] tower install
sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Rohn Torque Arms
I have a small (80 foot) Rohn 25G tower going up hopefully Friday, but I need two torque arms and a vendor failed to tell us they were backordered until next month. does anyone have a couple to spare they could get to me next day air? Please e-mail me offlist or call my cell phone. Cameron Midcoast Internet Solutions (207) 691-5550 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TOWERS
I get most of our Rohn equipment from Tessco. However, our tower guy is a distributer for Pirod which are great towers as well. (solid rod) I hope your not doing a free standing 60 footer in 25G, that would scare the hell out of me. 45g (maybe) -Cameron Who are you guys buying free standing towers from these days. Looking for new or near new 25G or 45g 60 foot or something similar. We are looking for a distributor in the western US Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
Except the cost of a B100 you can buy 3 Trango Link 45 units right now of course one could always stand here and argue the differences in equipment regarding trango and alvarion since I use both of them. Cameron Midcoast Internet BreezeNET B100s now support software selectable 10, 20 or 40 MHz channels. Also, they can be purchased as B28s than upgraded later via license key when capacity needs increase. Patrick Alvarion -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 Another option is to Use Redline AN80 units in 5.8, where you can use 10 mhz channels to better squeeze the link between the Orthogons and Canopy Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 After running the numbers, it does look like I can get some decent throughput out of this thing in 5.3 using the integrated antennas at 6.5 miles. Certainly better than the Canopy BH I'm using now. Another question: the sales page for the TrangoLINK-45 says it's VLAN aware, but there's no mention of VLAN configuration in the user manual. Is it possible to assign a VLAN to the management interface of these radios? Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Mike Hammett wrote: Responding to myself, I think the Orthogon can go to -7 and the Redline to -20 just for this purpose. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 I have no documentation present, but people with Orthogon and Redline have said their products can use large antenna. In a PtMP environment, yes 2 - 3 miles is probably all you can get. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 I did not think you could legally run 3 foot parabolics in 5.3./ 5.4. Are there 3 foot dishes FCC certified with radios in 5.3 / 5.4? I would like to see a URL to data on these radio / antenna combinations. I had always believed the lower power limits of those bands pretty much meant they were only worth using in 2 or 3 mile shots. Please enlighten me. Scriv On Feb 19, 2008 3:17 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can go 10 - 15 miles within EIRP in 5.3\5.4 in a PtP configuration. I believe 10 miles is with a 3' dish. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 Oh yeah, one hop is 6.5 miles so 5.3/5.4 is out unfortunately. The other is 0.5 miles so I will probably run that in 5.3. There are a lot of weather radar towers around here that junk up 5.4. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Randy Cosby wrote: I've had some limited experience with them, and so far all is good. I'm using 5.4 channels, which is an added bonus for dealing with noisy canopy stuff. Fairly short hops though. Patrick Shoemaker wrote: I have two Motorola Canopy 20M backhauls running in 2.4 GHz that serve as redundant links between POPs. I am located in Maryland just outside of DC, and the 2.4 noise floor has crept high enough to require replacement of these backup links. I am looking at the TrangoLINK-45 radios to replace these and wanted to get some real-world feedback from anyone who is using this system. Any problems / bugs / known issues? They will be colocated with Orthogon PtP radios as well as some Canopy APs, which are all running in 5.7. The Canopy APs and Orthogon get along great together running in the same band- am I wrong assuming the Trango product will have good enough receiver selectivity to get along with the other equipment too? It will likely be run H-pol with the other stuff on v-pol (except the Orthogon which uses both polarities via MIMO). Thanks, WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
I'm not 100% I always use my Procurve switches for the VLAN and leave the Trango as a dummy bridge. Cameron Midcoast Internet After running the numbers, it does look like I can get some decent throughput out of this thing in 5.3 using the integrated antennas at 6.5 miles. Certainly better than the Canopy BH I'm using now. Another question: the sales page for the TrangoLINK-45 says it's VLAN aware, but there's no mention of VLAN configuration in the user manual. Is it possible to assign a VLAN to the management interface of these radios? Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Mike Hammett wrote: Responding to myself, I think the Orthogon can go to -7 and the Redline to -20 just for this purpose. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 I have no documentation present, but people with Orthogon and Redline have said their products can use large antenna. In a PtMP environment, yes 2 - 3 miles is probably all you can get. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 I did not think you could legally run 3 foot parabolics in 5.3./ 5.4. Are there 3 foot dishes FCC certified with radios in 5.3 / 5.4? I would like to see a URL to data on these radio / antenna combinations. I had always believed the lower power limits of those bands pretty much meant they were only worth using in 2 or 3 mile shots. Please enlighten me. Scriv On Feb 19, 2008 3:17 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can go 10 - 15 miles within EIRP in 5.3\5.4 in a PtP configuration. I believe 10 miles is with a 3' dish. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 Oh yeah, one hop is 6.5 miles so 5.3/5.4 is out unfortunately. The other is 0.5 miles so I will probably run that in 5.3. There are a lot of weather radar towers around here that junk up 5.4. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Randy Cosby wrote: I've had some limited experience with them, and so far all is good. I'm using 5.4 channels, which is an added bonus for dealing with noisy canopy stuff. Fairly short hops though. Patrick Shoemaker wrote: I have two Motorola Canopy 20M backhauls running in 2.4 GHz that serve as redundant links between POPs. I am located in Maryland just outside of DC, and the 2.4 noise floor has crept high enough to require replacement of these backup links. I am looking at the TrangoLINK-45 radios to replace these and wanted to get some real-world feedback from anyone who is using this system. Any problems / bugs / known issues? They will be colocated with Orthogon PtP radios as well as some Canopy APs, which are all running in 5.7. The Canopy APs and Orthogon get along great together running in the same band- am I wrong assuming the Trango product will have good enough receiver selectivity to get along with the other equipment too? It will likely be run H-pol with the other stuff on v-pol (except the Orthogon which uses both polarities via MIMO). Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors
This are the ones we have been using for years. Male Tessco part number: 431926 -Cameron Midcoast Internet Solutions Rockland, Maine I was going to try out the Times EZ style connectors for LMR400. I saw several part numbers, Specifically... EZ-400-NMH-D EZ-400-NMK They were referenced as spring tipped versus captived or something like that. Anyone know the difference? What are preferred to use? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results
Hello all, I am in the need of upgrading some backhauls. We are currently using Alvarion AUVL units with a SU-54-BD. According to Alvarion, this link is only capable of 16mbit each way (Alvarion, please call it a 32mbit radio.) We have looked into results on users who use Alvarion B100, Trango Link 45, etc.. We are open to all options...As long is it works very well. The link is about 3 miles, but we have another link that is causing the need for the upgrade that is about 20 miles. Trango has licensed gear in the 6ghz and 18ghz line that is very impressive, but just too expensive for us right now. I would like to know if people are using B100 what is the up/down max throughput that you have seen? 50/50? etc.. Are you running VoIP over this? Alvarion claims 1000 concurrent calls over this link, i'm sure many of you have not even dented this number. I am growing to be a big fan of Trango, but have been well, but their packet per seconds is a lot less than Alvarion B gear at almost 40,000 compared to trango at around 10,000. Thanks, I man in dire need of a lot of bandwidth, distance and no spectrum to put it -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
