Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Fred Goldstein 

On 3/2/2017 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
We have a couple of the ignite switches. They work fine. Web interface 
very clunky but works.


Thanks. That gives me some confidence.



On Mar 2, 2017 1:41 PM, "Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com 
<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>> wrote:


On 3/2/2017 11:27 AM, Bryce Duchcherer wrote:


IgniteNet has some 24-port sfp switches. Havent tried them, don’t
know how good they are.



That's at the top of my list right now. It does everything I want
and it's dirt cheap. But I don't know if anybody has actually
tried them, so until we start hearing reports, it's literally very
promising. Probably worth trying, if I get a chance. At that price
($500 for 24 ports) you can't go wrong.


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There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch...

On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net
<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:

On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want. 
229 bucks gets you a pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?



I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for
the local connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something
that could be useful for a rural FTTP build, dropped into a
pedestal somewhere in the middle of noplace, to feed a
cluster of nearby buildings. MikroTik isn't in that space
yet; CRS seems to be lots of copper.



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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Mike Hammett 
If anyone has used an EdgeCore switch, it's largely (if not completely) the 
same guts. They're both part of Acton (or however you spell it). 




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From: "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net> 
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:34:01 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches 


On 3/2/2017 11:27 AM, Bryce Duchcherer wrote: 




IgniteNet has some 24-port sfp switches. Havent tried them, don’t know how good 
they are. 


That's at the top of my list right now. It does everything I want and it's dirt 
cheap. But I don't know if anybody has actually tried them, so until we start 
hearing reports, it's literally very promising. Probably worth trying, if I get 
a chance. At that price ($500 for 24 ports) you can't go wrong. 







Bryce D 
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Behalf Of Chris Fabien 
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:24 AM 
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches 


There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch... 



On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" < f...@interisle.net > wrote: 




On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: 



CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want. 229 bucks gets you a pair 
of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ? 




I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the local 
connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that could be useful for a 
rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal somewhere in the middle of noplace, 
to feed a cluster of nearby buildings. MikroTik isn't in that space yet; CRS 
seems to be lots of copper. 




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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Fred Goldstein 

On 3/2/2017 11:23 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch...



True, there's a 10-sfp CRS. Good price. Two downsides, though. One, 10 
ports is still kind of small, like they're dipping their toes in the 
market. Two, it's really a RouterOS router, not a switch. So it isn't 
optimized for clean Layer 2 operation with VLANs, QoS, etc. That's not 
MT's strength -- router folks don't appreciate Carrier Ethernet, which 
is a lot newer than eye pee.


On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net 
<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:


On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:


CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want. 229 bucks
gets you a pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?



I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the
local connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that
could be useful for a rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal
somewhere in the middle of noplace, to feed a cluster of nearby
buildings. MikroTik isn't in that space yet; CRS seems to be lots
of copper.


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<http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5>
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

On 3/1/2017 8:31 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Planet mgsw-28240


Thanks for the model number. I had looked on Planet's web site
but there were no switches under "Braodband Communications"; that
model was in the "LAN switch" section. The product name then says
"Managed Metro Ethernet Switch" but it doesn't mention any MEF
compliance, the application page says "core/department network"
(though it uses SFPs, which is odd there), and its QoS features
don't seem up to MEF standards (three-color marking, etc.). So it
might work but I'm not sure if it really wants to be a carrier box.

What's the price? My recollection is that Planet was very very
reasonable.

The other one that looks really interesting is the new IgniteNet
Fusion Switch. The 20-SFP/4-SFP+ box is under $500, and seems to
be aimed at Active carrier deployments. Of course it's kinda new
so I don't know if anyone has it deployed yet. And I have no need
for higher-layer features in a switch; I'd rather let a real
router do that.



On Mar 1, 2017 7:07 PM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net
<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:

For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment
of a couple of dozen ports or so, what's a good cheap
Active Ethernet switch? This would be to supplement
wireless and focus on business customers, so Active makes
more sense. Thanks.


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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Fred Goldstein 

On 3/2/2017 11:27 AM, Bryce Duchcherer wrote:


IgniteNet has some 24-port sfp switches. Havent tried them, don’t know 
how good they are.




That's at the top of my list right now. It does everything I want and 
it's dirt cheap. But I don't know if anybody has actually tried them, so 
until we start hearing reports, it's literally very promising. Probably 
worth trying, if I get a chance. At that price ($500 for 24 ports) you 
can't go wrong.



Bryce D

NETAGO

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*On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien

*Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch...

On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net 
<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:


On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want.  229
bucks gets you a pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?


I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the
local connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that
could be useful for a rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal
somewhere in the middle of noplace, to feed a cluster of nearby
buildings. MikroTik isn't in that space yet; CRS seems to be lots
of copper.



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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Dennis Burgess 
http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2291=0 
is a planet switch all SFP.


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

On 3/2/2017 11:27 AM, Bryce Duchcherer wrote:
IgniteNet has some 24-port sfp switches. Havent tried them, don't know how good 
they are.

That's at the top of my list right now. It does everything I want and it's dirt 
cheap. But I don't know if anybody has actually tried them, so until we start 
hearing reports, it's literally very promising. Probably worth trying, if I get 
a chance. At that price ($500 for 24 ports) you can't go wrong.



Bryce D
NETAGO

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch...

On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" 
<f...@interisle.net<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:
On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want.  229 bucks gets you a 
pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?


I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the local 
connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that could be useful for a 
rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal somewhere in the middle of noplace, 
to feed a cluster of nearby buildings. MikroTik isn't in that space yet; CRS 
seems to be lots of copper.



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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Fred Goldstein 

On 3/2/2017 11:23 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch...



True, there's a 10-sfp CRS. Good price. Two downsides, though. One, 10 
ports is still kind of small, like they're dipping their toes in the 
market. Two, it's really a RouterOS router, not a switch. So it isn't 
optimized for clean Layer 2 operation with VLANs, QoS, etc. That's not 
MT's strength -- router folks don't appreciate Carrier Ethernet, which 
is a lot newer than eye pee.


On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net 
<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:


On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:


CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want. 229 bucks
gets you a pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?



I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the
local connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that
could be useful for a rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal
somewhere in the middle of noplace, to feed a cluster of nearby
buildings. MikroTik isn't in that space yet; CRS seems to be lots
of copper.


*/_Dennis Burgess_/**–**Network Solution Engineer – Consultant ***

MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
<http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5>
– MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
<http://www.linktechs.net/>

Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
<http://www.towercoverage.com/>

Office: 314-735-0270 <tel:%28314%29%20735-0270>

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*To:* wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

On 3/1/2017 8:31 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Planet mgsw-28240


Thanks for the model number. I had looked on Planet's web site
but there were no switches under "Braodband Communications"; that
model was in the "LAN switch" section. The product name then says
"Managed Metro Ethernet Switch" but it doesn't mention any MEF
compliance, the application page says "core/department network"
(though it uses SFPs, which is odd there), and its QoS features
don't seem up to MEF standards (three-color marking, etc.). So it
might work but I'm not sure if it really wants to be a carrier box.

What's the price? My recollection is that Planet was very very
reasonable.

The other one that looks really interesting is the new IgniteNet
Fusion Switch. The 20-SFP/4-SFP+ box is under $500, and seems to
be aimed at Active carrier deployments. Of course it's kinda new
so I don't know if anyone has it deployed yet. And I have no need
for higher-layer features in a switch; I'd rather let a real
router do that.



On Mar 1, 2017 7:07 PM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net
<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:

For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment
of a couple of dozen ports or so, what's a good cheap
Active Ethernet switch? This would be to supplement
wireless and focus on business customers, so Active makes
more sense. Thanks.


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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Fred Goldstein 

On 3/2/2017 11:27 AM, Bryce Duchcherer wrote:


IgniteNet has some 24-port sfp switches. Havent tried them, don’t know 
how good they are.




That's at the top of my list right now. It does everything I want and 
it's dirt cheap. But I don't know if anybody has actually tried them, so 
until we start hearing reports, it's literally very promising. Probably 
worth trying, if I get a chance. At that price ($500 for 24 ports) you 
can't go wrong.



Bryce D

NETAGO

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*On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien

*Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch...

On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net 
<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:


On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want.  229
bucks gets you a pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?


I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the
local connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that
could be useful for a rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal
somewhere in the middle of noplace, to feed a cluster of nearby
buildings. MikroTik isn't in that space yet; CRS seems to be lots
of copper.



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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Bryce Duchcherer 
IgniteNet has some 24-port sfp switches. Havent tried them, don’t know how good 
they are.

Bryce D
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To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch...

On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" 
<f...@interisle.net<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:
On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want.  229 bucks gets you a 
pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?


I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the local 
connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that could be useful for a 
rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal somewhere in the middle of noplace, 
to feed a cluster of nearby buildings. MikroTik isn't in that space yet; CRS 
seems to be lots of copper.


Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant
MikroTik Certified 
Trainer/Consultant<http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5>
 – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/>
Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com<http://www.towercoverage.com/>
Office: 314-735-0270<tel:(314)%20735-0270>
E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
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To: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

On 3/1/2017 8:31 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
Planet mgsw-28240


Thanks for the model number. I had looked on Planet's web site but there were 
no switches under "Braodband Communications"; that model was in the "LAN 
switch" section. The product name then says "Managed Metro Ethernet Switch" but 
it doesn't mention any MEF compliance, the application page says 
"core/department network" (though it uses SFPs, which is odd there), and its 
QoS features don't seem up to MEF standards (three-color marking, etc.). So it 
might work but I'm not sure if it really wants to be a carrier box.

What's the price? My recollection is that Planet was very very reasonable.

The other one that looks really interesting is the new IgniteNet Fusion Switch. 
The 20-SFP/4-SFP+ box is under $500, and seems to be aimed at Active carrier 
deployments. Of course it's kinda new so I don't know if anyone has it deployed 
yet. And I have no need for higher-layer features in a switch; I'd rather let a 
real router do that.


On Mar 1, 2017 7:07 PM, "Fred Goldstein" 
<f...@interisle.net<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:
For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment of a couple of dozen 
ports or so, what's a good cheap Active Ethernet switch? This would be to 
supplement wireless and focus on business customers, so Active makes more 
sense. Thanks.


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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Chris Fabien 
There is a 10 SFP mikrotik switch...

On Mar 2, 2017 11:22 AM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net> wrote:

> On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>
> CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want.  229 bucks gets you
> a pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?
>
>
>
>
> I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the local
> connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that could be useful
> for a rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal somewhere in the middle of
> noplace, to feed a cluster of nearby buildings. MikroTik isn't in that
> space yet; CRS seems to be lots of copper.
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
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> On 3/1/2017 8:31 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
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> Thanks for the model number. I had looked on Planet's web site but there
> were no switches under "Braodband Communications"; that model was in the
> "LAN switch" section. The product name then says "Managed Metro Ethernet
> Switch" but it doesn't mention any MEF compliance, the application page
> says "core/department network" (though it uses SFPs, which is odd there),
> and its QoS features don't seem up to MEF standards (three-color marking,
> etc.). So it might work but I'm not sure if it really wants to be a carrier
> box.
>
> What's the price? My recollection is that Planet was very very reasonable.
>
> The other one that looks really interesting is the new IgniteNet Fusion
> Switch. The 20-SFP/4-SFP+ box is under $500, and seems to be aimed at
> Active carrier deployments. Of course it's kinda new so I don't know if
> anyone has it deployed yet. And I have no need for higher-layer features in
> a switch; I'd rather let a real router do that.
>
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2017 7:07 PM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net> wrote:
>
> For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment of a couple of
> dozen ports or so, what's a good cheap Active Ethernet switch? This would
> be to supplement wireless and focus on business customers, so Active makes
> more sense. Thanks.
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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Fred Goldstein 

On 3/2/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:


CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want.  229 bucks gets 
you a pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?




I'm not looking for copper, except maybe a couple ports for the local 
connection; I'm looking for lots of SFPs, something that could be useful 
for a rural FTTP build, dropped into a pedestal somewhere in the middle 
of noplace, to feed a cluster of nearby buildings. MikroTik isn't in 
that space yet; CRS seems to be lots of copper.



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*Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2017 9:37 PM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

On 3/1/2017 8:31 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Planet mgsw-28240


Thanks for the model number. I had looked on Planet's web site but 
there were no switches under "Braodband Communications"; that model 
was in the "LAN switch" section. The product name then says "Managed 
Metro Ethernet Switch" but it doesn't mention any MEF compliance, the 
application page says "core/department network" (though it uses SFPs, 
which is odd there), and its QoS features don't seem up to MEF 
standards (three-color marking, etc.). So it might work but I'm not 
sure if it really wants to be a carrier box.


What's the price? My recollection is that Planet was very very reasonable.

The other one that looks really interesting is the new IgniteNet 
Fusion Switch. The 20-SFP/4-SFP+ box is under $500, and seems to be 
aimed at Active carrier deployments. Of course it's kinda new so I 
don't know if anyone has it deployed yet. And I have no need for 
higher-layer features in a switch; I'd rather let a real router do that.




On Mar 1, 2017 7:07 PM, "Fred Goldstein" <f...@interisle.net
<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:

For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment of a
couple of dozen ports or so, what's a good cheap Active
Ethernet switch? This would be to supplement wireless and
focus on business customers, so Active makes more sense. Thanks.


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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-02 Thread Dennis Burgess 
CRS series. As well. Depending on how dense you want.  229 bucks gets you a 
pair of 10 gig ports and 24 copper. ?


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Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 9:37 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

On 3/1/2017 8:31 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
Planet mgsw-28240


Thanks for the model number. I had looked on Planet's web site but there were 
no switches under "Braodband Communications"; that model was in the "LAN 
switch" section. The product name then says "Managed Metro Ethernet Switch" but 
it doesn't mention any MEF compliance, the application page says 
"core/department network" (though it uses SFPs, which is odd there), and its 
QoS features don't seem up to MEF standards (three-color marking, etc.). So it 
might work but I'm not sure if it really wants to be a carrier box.

What's the price? My recollection is that Planet was very very reasonable.

The other one that looks really interesting is the new IgniteNet Fusion Switch. 
The 20-SFP/4-SFP+ box is under $500, and seems to be aimed at Active carrier 
deployments. Of course it's kinda new so I don't know if anyone has it deployed 
yet. And I have no need for higher-layer features in a switch; I'd rather let a 
real router do that.



On Mar 1, 2017 7:07 PM, "Fred Goldstein" 
<f...@interisle.net<mailto:f...@interisle.net>> wrote:
For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment of a couple of dozen 
ports or so, what's a good cheap Active Ethernet switch? This would be to 
supplement wireless and focus on business customers, so Active makes more 
sense. Thanks.


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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-01 Thread Fred Goldstein 

On 3/1/2017 8:31 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Planet mgsw-28240



Thanks for the model number. I had looked on Planet's web site but there 
were no switches under "Braodband Communications"; that model was in the 
"LAN switch" section. The product name then says "Managed Metro Ethernet 
Switch" but it doesn't mention any MEF compliance, the application page 
says "core/department network" (though it uses SFPs, which is odd 
there), and its QoS features don't seem up to MEF standards (three-color 
marking, etc.). So it might work but I'm not sure if it really wants to 
be a carrier box.


What's the price? My recollection is that Planet was very very reasonable.

The other one that looks really interesting is the new IgniteNet Fusion 
Switch. The 20-SFP/4-SFP+ box is under $500, and seems to be aimed at 
Active carrier deployments. Of course it's kinda new so I don't know if 
anyone has it deployed yet. And I have no need for higher-layer features 
in a switch; I'd rather let a real router do that.



On Mar 1, 2017 7:07 PM, "Fred Goldstein" > wrote:


For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment of a
couple of dozen ports or so, what's a good cheap Active Ethernet
switch? This would be to supplement wireless and focus on business
customers, so Active makes more sense. Thanks.


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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-01 Thread Scott Carullo 
I have some occum / Calix switches with 10Gb uplinks / 8 copper gig ports I 
think and 24 ports SFP DC -48v if you are interested..
  
 New / setup but not deployed company went under I bought them for same 
use.  We are leaning to GPON instead of active for delivery so don't think 
I'm going to use them now.  If interested get me off list and I'll give you 
more info  I may have a dozen or so.
  
   Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 Florida High Speed Internet
 (321) 205-1100 x102

  

  
  

  


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Subject: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches   
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Re: [WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-01 Thread Chris Fabien 
Planet mgsw-28240

On Mar 1, 2017 7:07 PM, "Fred Goldstein"  wrote:

> For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment of a couple of
> dozen ports or so, what's a good cheap Active Ethernet switch? This would
> be to supplement wireless and focus on business customers, so Active makes
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[WISPA] Active Ethernet switches

2017-03-01 Thread Fred Goldstein 
For a small outdoor or semi-outdoor (not a/c) deployment of a couple of 
dozen ports or so, what's a good cheap Active Ethernet switch? This 
would be to supplement wireless and focus on business customers, so 
Active makes more sense. Thanks.



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